No Filler Music Podcast - Nothing Left to Lose, Everything to Prove - Foo Fighters' Debut Self-Titled

Episode Date: April 19, 2026

On this episode we dive into the raw, cathartic beginnings of Foo Fighters' self-titled debut. Written and recorded almost entirely by Dave Grohl, the record feels like a personal reset button. It’s loose, loud, and surprisingly melodic, packed with the kind of deep cuts that hint at everything the band would eventually become once fully realized. Tracklist: Alone + Easy Target Good Grief Floaty Weenie Beenie Oh, George Big Me This episode is part of the Pantheon Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm sure that the expectations for this band are pretty high just because we all come from bands that we just have a lot of baggage carried along. But, I mean, it's a new band. For me, it's completely different than anything I've ever done. And hopefully, the expectations will sort of turn around and pick us in the ass, meaning we'll be playing in front of ten. people every night. That'd be fun. Welcome to No Filler. The music podcast dedicated to sharing the often

overlooked hidden gyms that filled the space between the singles on our favorite records. My name's Quentin, with me as always, it's my brother Travis. We got Mitchell here with us again. Hello. Howdy Mitch? Missed you, dude. On that last one, man. I wish I got to join. Yeah, yeah. I'm glad this lined up, gentlemen. Definitely glad. Indeed. We're covering the inaugural self-titled of none other than foo fighters um this is hollowed ground indeed hollowed ground for especially for you quentin it took us what eight years trav how long we've been doing this well no i mean y'all did y'all came out the gates early with it yeah i remember spencer was there yeah self-title i'm saying this album specifically oh yeah yeah sure sure shocked that

we haven't covered it so far the break between the the drought did for foo fighters Yeah, because we only covered. I would have bet. Yeah. Yeah, we only covered there's nothing left to lose. And that was in the early, early days of the pod. I mean, we, you know, we indirectly talked about them by way of our Queens of the Stone Age episode. Girl comes up.

I'm sure he gets mentioned. If we did like a, you know, we could use AI for something cool for once and see through all the vocals of your recordings and see how much, you know, somebody's been mentioned. And I'm sure Grohl's up there. So many times, Mitch. If I could just get every transcript, I could easily plop that into a, uh, a, uh, AI and just... Oh, yeah, dude. Yeah.

Traff, you could do it. I'll just set up a script to just run and download. I was going to call you four eyes, but I realized all three of us have glasses on. Well, if you want to get nerdy for a little bit, I wonder if the Spotify is trapped. I wonder if you can pull the transcripts. Ah, I've probably got Spotify. It's a good idea. I've gone back and Reddit to see if it can get my, you know, between my weird Texas and

Colorado like lingo and twang and sometimes it has some weird shit in the transcript. It does not get what I say right, you know? Yeah, if the summary is like, this guy hates Oklahoma. Most of the time, it thinks my name is Quincy. Quincy? That's a transcress, bro. Oh, bro. You shouldn't have told me that.

You should not have told me that. It's your name now, dude. Yeah, that's your alter ego, bro. Oh, Quincy? Yeah. Good old Quincy, boy. Yeah, what does Quincy think about food fires? Quincy?

Oh, dude, he loves it. Bro, you had a poster. Didn't you all have a poster in your room? Oh, I'm sure we did. A Jimmy World poster. You had a Blink 182 poster. and I'm pretty sure you had a food fighter's place. I think we had, I think it was the one with his neck with a tat on his neck.

Which is the, there is nothing left to lose. Yeah. Yep. So I know that Quentin, this is fucking hollow ground. Dude, I totally forgot about that Jimmy World posters. Like, they're sitting around in a room or something like that, around a table. Like what you had said, Mitch, like, food fighters was like a mainstay. Like, they were top of the pops for me for a long time as far as like favor band.

Yeah. All throughout, well, you know, like through my high school years. Maybe a little earlier than that, maybe, dude. Yes, ear to the ground with them with their releases. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of the stuff you come back on and we talk about were like coming back with retrospectively, right? I remember you were with them.

Yeah, dude. It was maybe after one on one. Yeah, one by one. Yeah, that single was fucking awesome. Yes, that single was so cool, dude. That whole record was cool. Yeah, indeed. And then I just kind of stopped paying attention.

But here's the funny thing. I didn't really get into their self-titled. back then. Yeah. I never listened to it. I think all three of us were suspect to that being like, well, we like the newer stuff with whatever.

Yeah, that was the thing. I wasn't at the point in my like musical career where I would go back. Yes. And listen to the old stuff. Totally. We now know how important that is. And we've had no excuse since too.

You know, that long time. Fucking 27 hundred years, really. I mean, let's be honest, like Spotify has made that very, very, very, doable, you know what I mean? Like, hey, Napster made it pretty damn easy too. Napster made it easy too. But, yeah, and I know I mentioned this in the episode where we covered, there's nothing left to lose. That was the first album I bought with my own money. I bought it in a Wombuster music. Amazing. I thought Chumba Wamba, Tob Thumper was the first record that you bought with your own money. Oh, shit. Well, no, but like, I don't think that was my own money. You know what I'm

saying? Shot fired. He gets knocked down, bro. Yeah, I guess what you just got knocked down? I'm going to get up again. Okay. I think mine, boys, I think mine was like this dramatic ever clear or something like this. And I don't know why. You know what mine was?

I mean, you know, I'm going to include the- Was it a Metallica draft? No, no, no. It was third-eye blind. Nice. Funny enough, it was, you know, the one with the one with, the one with graduate. Simit charm life. Yeah, that record is fantastic.

It is, man. I'll talk that record with you anytime, Trave. Amen. God of wine, is a good one on there. We can do that. Let's cue that up. Let's get that in the key. Fuck you, man.

It's in the pocket, bro. That's another band. I don't think that has been mentioned on this podcast, dude, ever. So when you guys think about the Food Fighter's self-title, like what comes to mind? The picture of the imagery. Yeah, the first thing that comes to my mind is the Raygun, dude, for sure. The Raygun. Yeah.

So, I mean, for a while, I've known. And this was common knowledge. It's not, you know, but it's all Dave Grohl, right? It's all him. Every single thing. So actually, I found out there's an exception. Someone from the Afghan Whigs, the Afghan Wigs. Oh, that's his name's Greg Dolly.

He added guitar to one of the tracks. I mean, it doesn't even mention my notes. That's an odd partnership there, dude. I don't know how they got connected. Because, like, Afghan Wigs is like. A little more heady and kind of indie and not so punk rock and grunt. I've never listened to them, actually. I've never really gotten into their stuff.

But anyways, like, so, and this wasn't like Grohl trying to be like, look what I can do. You know, I can do it all. It's because, you know, they've, this self-titled record was finished before there was even like a full band assembled called the foo fighters, you know. It was really just Grohl. He felt like, you know, this was, okay, we got to, I, man, I should have, I should have looked in this a little bit better, but we got to figure. out the timeline here. You know, inevitably, we're going to talk about Cobain's death, right? We have to. Yeah. Well, I was, I was going to ask, so that, that interview clip that we played, had he died yet? Oh, yeah. Okay. Because I know that, like, I know that Dave had started,

at least like doing demos and stuff, some of these songs, before Kerri Cobain passed away. Yes. So he had, I mean, which is interesting to think that. He may, he may, he may have done this, and, like, like, I guess it, that's, it's like, what, you never know how it would have, how it would have gone, but like, would he have had the same success if Kurt lived? Probably not, because, I mean, I'm sure Nirvana would have still been Nirvana. Yeah. I don't know. Who knows? Who knows? It might have been fizzling out at that point anyway. Cobain died April 5th yesterday, 94. Oh, wow. April 5th, 94. Yeah, as of, as of recording this, yeah, it's April 6th. So, um, so, so, so Grohl, they started recording this self-titled

in like mid-October of 94. That's not very long after, dude. No. After his death. But apparently Grohl wrote over 30 songs during the previous six years. So from like, you know, the previous six years, you know, from 95 back six years. It sounds like before he was even in Nirvana. He already had stuff that he was writing.

Right. Yeah. So he's quoted here saying most people would think that all these songs were written starting the day after Kurt died. It's true. I did. Always did. Right.

Everyone wants so badly to make some kind of correlation. I've taken heat for a lot of lyrics I wrote four years ago. It frightens me to think that the line one shot, nothing in Weeny Beanie would be taken wrong. He goes on to say, I mean, I wrote that in 1991. So Weenie Beanie was written in 91. He actually, in another interview I read, he did not want to do interviews for this, for this album. because he knew that the focus would all be on Cobain. He overshadowed with,

but he did it, he did it purely to like get ahead of the tabloids or whatever. Because, I mean, think about, I'll stick around. He didn't want people thinking that I don't owe you anything was directed towards Cobain. So he wanted to kind of like control the narrative by going out there and interviewing

and getting interviews. I mean, but that never screamed anything to me, honestly. They did be even listening to it recently. The lyrics, you'd have to be pretty, I don't know, man. I guess people were more sensitive maybe. It seems like they would be now about that and like grasping at straws there or clutching at pearls there.

Oh, dude. Yeah. And that's what reporters do, right? Yeah, I remember watching, there was a documentary, I think it was a Food Fighters documentary or something like that. And he was talking about how like he just did not want to bring up Nirvana like during these interviews, you know. And of course, of course, every single one of them would ask like, hey, how does his death impact you and all this kind of stuff that's just like personal questions and stuff that's like, you know, he wanted to, you could see why. Dude, that would be like torturous. It would be like a purgatory, the same question every time of this tour for months on end.

You have this new band and you want to put some distance between you, obviously, and what everybody associates you with, you know, so it must have been really freaking tough, man. Yeah. He did too with the sound. It doesn't sound, I mean, yeah, can get to Tentures of Nirvana. but it's totally different, totally different, way more palatable, right? I show my dad Nirvana back then. He's like, what the hell? I show him this.

He might listen to some of it. That's fair, dude. Our dad, our dad, the one band that our dad was like, oh, I kind of like them was food fighters. You can see the seeds for the future, you know, food fighter records. They have longevity, dude. Famously, our dad took us to see the food fighters during their one-by-one tour. I like how you call it famously, as if, like, it was like a lot of people know about it. Well, as everyone knows.

He, I don't remember what the, what the venue was, but he set up in the balcony with, that's fantastic. With, what do you call those? Ear, ear, uh, ear plugs, yeah. Ear plugs in. He took them out only for Learn to Fly because he likes that one. He liked to learn to fly. That's incredible.

Which is, you know, one of the more like palatable. How much for this beer? Oh, God. What is he, Hank Hill? They all are in my eyes. So 30 songs over the past six years, right? Only three songs make it to the self-titled that were written after Cobain's suicide. This is a call, O. George, and I'll stick around.

So just keep that in mind. All the other songs written before Cobain's death. So yeah, let's just jump right into a track, dude. I'll just do one more quote here from Grohl. He says, and this is, so all these, this is all from interviews back in 95, everything I'm pulling from his old interviews. He says, I think about Kurt every day and I miss him. And I realize that I miss him.

But at the same time, things keep going. And I've got to make sure that things keep moving for me. I don't know if this band makes anyone else feel better. I just know I have to do it for myself. I have to feel like I'm moving forward. Oh, I'm sure it came on quick with him. I'm sure he was like, what happened? And then you pick up the pieces.

Right. Got me goddamn, dude. All right. So we got four tracks that happened to be. be back to back to back to back. Nice. Back to back. Yeah, that's four backs.

So we're going to jump down to, so let's just say what the singles were. We had, this is a call. I'll stick around for all the cows and big me. Were the four singles. For all the cows was a single? Are you kidding me? That's a great time.

That's ridiculous, bro. There's two like a little bit heavier songs, singles. This is a call. I'll stick around. For all the cows and Big Me, those are so, like, those are softies, man. Big Me makes sense. Big Me makes sense.

Because it's such a good song. Radio friendly, man. Yeah. And for all the cows. And earworm, dude. Yeah, Big Me's. Yeah. For all the cows is also a really cool song.

But what the fuck? That, you know, that was giving me Trev. We did that Blind Melon was 95. This is the same year, right? There's something in the fucking water, right? Yeah. And for all the cows could have been some collab with Blind Melon. You could have told me that.

Like, what the fuck, dude? That's a great song. Yeah, he had some quirky. quirky lyrics for sure. Yeah, it seems irreverent. Big Me's amazing. I love that song. Me too.

What a fucking did you. That's a classic. And everybody remembers that music video too, I mean. No, I don't think of that one I do, Treve. I don't. That's the one where they're wrong. It's kind of a short one where they got,

they're on the plane. No, that's learned to fly, dude. That's learning to fly, bro. Yeah, that's because they've always had like good funny rock and roll videos. Okay, well, that makes more sense. Their videos are great, too. They were cool with that.

A lot of bands weren't. All right, guys, we're going to start off with track five on the record. This one's Good, a Grief. Dude, that's an earworm, man. I love those, that chorus, dude. I fucking love that. Before I could look up the lyrics, which I can right now, I used to think for the longest time that he was saying, hey, dad.

Yeah, I kind of thought that to you, man. He actually says, hate it, hate it. Hate it. Hate it. Hey, what? Yes, it's called Good Grief. It. Yeah, that's right.

It's about a... It's about getting that football yanked away, for the fucking millionth time. Goal and noun. What does that mean, man? Goll and down. I know. I was wondering about that.

Goal and nine. Hearing like sea goals all the time when he's like writing. Just genius. It doesn't help, dude. Goal and now. Yeah, I looked. Goal as a now. Yeah, that doesn't help you.

Well, you know, genius could be wrong, man. It is crowdsourced. So I've got the, I guess I got the CD right here. And I was disappointed to see, to not see the lyrics inside. Because, like, that's when you know, if you can get the lyrics inside the liner notes, that's the source of truth, you know? Yes, no doubt. Maybe it's not goal and noun, but.

Could be. Maybe it could be goal as in like a. Like a goal. Yeah. Goals in life. Did anyone actually just put it into the gooks and quotation marks, goal and noun? Nope. Might not.

Why don't you try it out, Q? Tell us the report back. Well, here's what the AI has to say with it, which I didn't ask for. I'm not asking for AI. I hate the Google just like, I can't just do a Google search anymore. I know, bro. I know. And I can't turn it off.

Golun is a lyric from the song Good Grief by the Food Fighters. Thanks. You don't say. Thanks. The phrase appears in the song's chorus. Come on now. Often accompanied by the lines chills and petty. Often accompanied.

He's often accompanied by the lines chills and petty. Oh, you mean the lines that comes after it in the fucking song? Yeah, meaning he must have coined the phrase. You know what I mean? Like he, maybe, maybe Dave Grohl is the only person who's ever said those words together. You know, I just think it's funny that AI thought. How much water did it take to compute that? I know.

Way to go, Q. Way to go. I mean, I can't, I can't. It's not Clint's fault, dude. My bad. I can't talk. I can't talk about that. I use AI every day.

Actually, you know what, dude? I haven't used Duck, Duck, Go, and, while. Remember that? Yeah. Is that where you put your head down and somebody touches you? No, I'm talking about it. It's a search engine. It's like Google. It's like Google, but it's not.

But I wonder if they're shoving air down your throat too. Anyways, um, great track, man. Great fucking track. Yeah. Slick. The guitar is really cool. It kind of meanders around. Yeah. The guitar is kind of, you know, it's great. It's cool vibe. Apathetic in a way. I wish I could like, I would have found. I remember reading somewhere or hearing it in some, I don't know, documentary or something,

where Cobain was super supportive. And if you think back, these were songs that he'd been writing for the past six years. So he's, you know, through the majority of Nirvana, he had already started writing these songs. It sounds like the food fighters was going to happen, you know, whether or not Cobain keeps Nirvana together or his life together, right? Either Grohl was going to start. doing some singing for Nirvana, you know? Or, yeah, or he would just start riding along with Cobain. Man, can you imagine the collapse down the road if Nirvana splinters apart, but Cobain stays

alive and then circle, they circle back years, years now, that would have been crazy in an alternate universe, you know. But Cobain was, was like super into it, you know, and he was like supportive, supportive of the idea. Everything I've read about the guy behind the scenes is that says that Cobain is a gym. Very shy, but also. very shy. The sweetheart. Exactly. And he never felt like any threat or anything. He was just, you know, he was always just like, fucking go for it, dude. If you want to, if you want to do your own thing, do it.

Yeah. This isn't a competition. Yeah. So, I mean, does, yeah, does any of this sound like Nirvana? I don't think so. That there does not sound like Nirvana. Definitely not. Definitely not from good grief. It's too clean. The guitar had like a pretty tone to it. Yeah. The way it was delivered was kind of like blazee in a way, but it, to me it felt right, but not like grunge. It doesn't sound like grunge.

No. Or anything from early Nirvana stuff. No, and it's funny, Dave had said in an interview, he said, you know, I knew I knew that when I was recording the album, people would say, okay, that song has some distorted guitars and heavy drumming and a strong melody to it. It must be like Nirvana. The instant I realized that, I thought, fuck it, I don't give a shit. What else am I going to do?

It's just what I love to do. The stuff I do at home on my eight track, whether it's acoustic or. just noise is not the kind of thing I like to walk on stage and do. It's fun to bounce around to this kind of music in front of people. I mean, what a lazy assessment. You know what I mean? Like if somebody's just like, super lazy. Oh, come on. You're kidding me? I mean, anybody with ears can listen to the crap that he was getting pushed on during the interviews. Dude, this is by what he's singing about when he says, good grief. Good grief. Exactly, Travis. Exactly. This is it, man. Yeah, dude.

So you guys want to just jump to the next one? Yeah, no doubt. Let's do it, man. I'm excited to see which ones you got in line, Quinn. Well, dude, we're going down the line. So we're jumping to Floody. Floody is probably my favorite one on the record, dude. Yeah, Floody's a gym.

Floody's fucking awesome, dude. Yeah, really awesome. Let's do it. So this is right after a good grief on the record. So here we go. Doesn't that sound like stuff from their later records? Oh, yeah, dude. For sure.

And that's, and, you know, just found out that this was, this was in that bank of 30 songs, you know, know that he wrote could have been 90 you know 91 wonder where he was that where they were where he felt like they were all floating well yeah i didn't even think about this until like look at these lyrics i mean it sounds like UFOs to me that's what i'm thinking too man i was like is this on brand with his whole roswell record yeah roguer's name exactly like the like the phase kind of thing the phase are kind of uh oh yeah the buck rogers got the the blizzard no i'm talking there's a guitar effect, effect pedal.

Oh, bro, then absolutely, Trabb. And that's even more like a little nod to that. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's like, right when it comes in, there's like a little effect on that guitar. And his voice is, his voice is affected too. It sounds awesome, dude. Well, it sounds like they're talking about like an alien deduction. And then I set him back down on Earth.

And then you see the UFO and you go, that's not as big as what's down here. Of course, what we talk about being around here, right? Because it always gets chatted out. That's not as big as what's floating around. Yeah, that's a little bit smaller than the planes. It's usually swamp gas, but, you know, Cletus that's seen it blows the story of. It's not like it is floating around here, right? But it was just, you know, whatever.

But still, that's fucking, yeah, it's probably what it is. And that's so, because it's not corny, right, when he's singing it. You know what's funny? I mean, he's like, the dude knows how to write a good, good hook. But he also has said that he thinks he's a terrible lyricist. I mean, because they're. At least he's humble about that. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, they are kind of corny. Some of the lyrics and, like, there's nothing left to lose. There's some corny Food Fighters lyrics out there. But if you were to tell me the song is about Alien Abduction, I'm like, okay, what Primus song is it or whatever? Yeah, I don't know, though. That's just my guess. That's just my guess. Yeah, it could be.

But, you know, and that's awesome. If it works that way, if he didn't even intended to be that and it can be double-edged like that, that's fucking fantastic. I just love that one, dude. The guitar kicks in. The little drum fills are fucking sweet. It's just so lively. Yeah, indeed. So let's talk about the touring lineup, fellas.

So Pat Smir, he was a guitarist for the germs. So that's like a freaking, you know. Early punk band. Early punk band. Early punk band. And then Nate Mendel on bass, who, I mean, he was the bass player for Fufa. I think he still is in the band. Probably is, dude.

I think Nate's one of the, yeah, he's one of the OGs. And then drummer William Goldsmith. So Nate and William were both members of Sunday Day Real Estate, which was another Seattle band. Huh. Okay. So he took them on the road with him. Yeah. A lot more introspective and emo to that band.

Way more than... Oh, yeah, dude. So I actually did listen to an interview. It was Howard Stern. And this was... The interview, I don't know. I didn't look at the year that the interview came out. Dude, he used to get rock stars all the fucking time.

Yeah, yeah. And it was just Dave and Taylor. sitting on the couch getting interviewed. So this was, you know, years, years after this. But there were, Howard Stern was asking him about, like, you know, you must have made a fortune with Nirvana. Like, you could have been set for life with this, the music, you know, the money that you made with Nirvana. Why do this? And then he was trying to get him to, like, say, like, how much he thought he had made through Nirvana. I don't know why he was pushing him on this, but he, he settled on probably about 15 million with, you know, record sales and

whatnot from being a Nirvana. So, girl disclosed that? He was just like, yeah, that sounds about right. You know, 15 mil. And the point being, like, he probably just threw a number out of his ass, dude. Right. But the point being that, like, he was set. He didn't, you know, he didn't, this isn't something he had to do by any means to, you know, for a living.

But anyways, Dave was like, he wanted to start out like any other new band. So very like, do it yourself. He would take turns driving the tour van. the first show that they did was a kegger in a friend's bedroom and they provided the beer. So stuff like that. And, you know, it's like he was saying in that interview too, like, you know, I hope these high expectations kick us in the ass, you know, and maybe we'll just be playing for little tiny shows for like 10 people. That would be fun. So I guess the point is like money was never a thing they had to think about either as a band.

That helps. Yeah, exactly. That helps because then they can just, they just for the fun. of making music and touring and playing, they didn't have to worry about that kind of stuff, which is also pretty cool. I wonder if a lot of them take risks with like the music videos because they were always like a little edgy.

Speaking of music videos, dude, they actually like, so the first single was this is a call. And they decided not to do a music video for it. And Girl says there does come a point where it's totally out of your control. But I learned a lot of lessons from Nirvana. We don't want to spend too much time hoaring ourselves around Because not only does it make everyone else sick of you Eventually you get sick of yourself

Wisdom Wisdom If he made that much with Nirvana man He must make some bank with food fire Holy shit Are you kidding? I know dude You can fight the whole universe

I feel like David grow up David Like he's in trouble David David He should be trouble. I don't think I've ever heard. I might be the first to do it, man. I might be the first to do it. Let me finish my thought

on that. Yeah, go ahead. I was going to say, I've always thought of Dave Grohl. He's like the Tom Hanks of Rock. You know what I mean? Oh, hey, that's pretty good. I like that. Yeah. I'm just saying like, well, up until recently, at least, there wasn't too much scandal around him. You know what I mean? And there wasn't much. But like, sorry, isn't Tom Hanks on the freaking airplane on the flight lists. He came to the palm trees. Well, there you go, there you go.

But in terms of, like, most people don't have anything bad to say about Tom Hanks, you know what I mean? In terms of just like his how he conducts himself. As a co-star, whatever, on set, sure. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, fellas, we did it. We mentioned the Epstein Files. We fucking did it. You know what? I've got it on my bingo card. Never forget, bro. Never forget. Hey, they're trying to... All their shit they came, man.

Yeah, I know. Potential nukes being dropped tomorrow. So we'll see if this actually... This episode drops. Hey, I just started watching fallout, dude. Did you? That's perfect, dude. Just started watching fall out.

Great research, man. Never played the game, but... It's a good game. Dude, speaking of, like, getting into some heavy shit, let's play weeny-beenie. How about it? Yes, bro. Grohl has that in him. I fucking love this track, dude.

That's awesome. How heavy he was in his songwriting. Early 90s. Early 90s. Yeah. So here we go. All right. Let's play.

This comes right after Floody. Here comes weenie. Here comes. Fuck yeah. I mean, the guy's a riff machine, man. Dude, yeah, that muted guitar. Mm-hmm. Dude, okay.

So just keep like, let's just remember. This is this song. This is one of the songs. This is one of the reasons why he went out there and did interviews because he wanted to, get ahead of it for that one shot no post show verse he wanted to like squash that fucking bug and make sure that no one tried to like spin it that that was in reference to co-bane suicide this was written in 91 dude that's that's crazy to me 91 it's awesome too it's it's grungy

yeah no doubt it's like a dirty poem you know yeah read it without hearing the music yeah it's funny, dude. One of the other things, in one of the interviews, he said something like, for me to do, you know, anything else other than this, like to do something different just to be as far away from Nirvana, like, I'm not going to do freeform jazz or something like that, just to be far away as far away as possible from the Nirvana sound. That would be ridiculous. I can't swing from that. Yeah, it would. And he says to- Yeah, it was going to do choir music. Right. After that, like, what the fuck do you expect me to do, bro? Yeah, he says, too, the thing that these people don't fucking realize is that this type of music has been around for years.

Nirvana's music has snowballed from so many different things. It came from flipper. Never heard a flipper. Have you guys heard a flipper? Yeah. Came from Pixies. Came from a lot of different punk bands. I know Pixies.

We all know Pixies, bro. They don't understand that when I was 15 and had Zen Arcade, which is a Husker-Doo record, that's when I decided that I loved this music. So, yeah, this is, it's just since he was 15, you know, he's been into this kind of music since he was 15. He's not doing anything to, you know, piggyback off of what Nirvana. What he's doing is he's becoming part of that style of music. Yeah. You know, like Husker Do is, I want to say first wave emo technically, like the forefathers of that. That guy that we interviewed about Sonic Youth.

Mm-hmm. I remember he mentioned Husker Doe. So that, they must have been an influence on Sonic Youth. too, or like, you know, the scene at the time. Husker do was early. I know they were like late 70s into the 80s. I should probably give them a listen, fellas. I've heard a couple of their hits, they're big, they're their singles.

Yeah. And it's not what you expect. It's not. And you can see how it's the roots of emo. I mean, I pronounce it Hushkudu. Because that's, I think that's how they, I think that's how they say it in that Ringo Death Star song. There's a Ringo Death Star where they name drop Hishardoo.

But point being that, you know, I mean, probably the reason why Grohl joined Nirvana, I don't know the roots of how they formed or whatever. Shit, man, they were all in the same music and this is in his freaking DNA as like a music lover. Yeah, and Nirano, he was in there with him for a bit, just a bit. I'm sure Cobain and him bonded deeply. And maybe he ran with him before that before he was, you know, touring with him. But yeah, that wasn't going to define him forever. Right.

Like I said, I bet this was in his path no matter what. All right, fellas, we got one more. we're going to listen to O. George. So here we go. Let's do it. Sweet solo. I just wanted to play that solo. Yeah. Yeah, sweet solo. So this is one of the ones that he wrote after Cobain's death.

And I only bring that up just to show, you know, this is the newer stuff. And I mean, you can hear the trajectory, you know, like the path that even with. Yeah, the roots are growing here. Color and the shape. Yeah, dude. It sounds like a lot. like that stuff. Great, great song.

I think it's cool to have an album that has, how often has this happened, you know, where like an artist goes through the death of a friend and like a bandmate and has been recording music throughout that whole time and all of it gets on one record, you know, like it's really interesting. Yeah. I mean, and I don't want to sound harsh or like greedy as a listener,

but what do you want to happen? Something like sublime where they're turned into the fucking ghost of their former self and what their ethos will. was where they're playing like Sublime is playing conservative bullshit concert, you know, where they can't even sell enough tickets because the crowd is not there. That's not what the original Sublime fans want. You know what I mean? Does that what you want?

Do you want Nirvana to keep going with Grohl singing the new songs? Like, what the fuck? And maybe if he tries that, that's okay. But like, you know what I'm saying, boys? Like he's going to do something different. So, yeah. Man, I never even thought about that as a thing that could have happened. It's like, well, I guess Nirvana is going to carry on.

and I'll be the singer. It was that same year in 95 that Shannon Houn, ODs, right? Right, yeah. So that was happening. I mean, it was a pretty significant event in the 90s. It was like a second wave or what, I don't know, if that's the right term of like that rock star frontman, uh, uh, insane lifestyle where they were just dropping, bro, from drug use and alcohol abuse and lifestyles and, you know, killing themselves.

Will Cobain the same age? Like, there was like that. There's, there's been that curse of 27. Yeah, I think it's 27 years old. Yeah, he was 27. He sure was. I don't think who was. Andrew.

There's a lot of, man. It's weird. It's a little weird. Yeah. Yeah. Buddy Holly, it goes back. Yeah. And those aren't all suicides, man.

Buddy Holly just died in a plane crash. Yeah. Helicopter crash. Yeah. Helicopter crash. Him and the Big Bopper. Somebody got out of that. Roy Orbison, I think, got out of that helicopter.

Let's just read the lyrics of Ringo Death Star. They talk about all this song. The song is named a Big Bopper. Hey, Ringo Death Star getting a shout out. What a cool awesome band. That band. That band's fun. The name of that song is called Big Bopper.

They say, let me see if I can read it. Let me see it. Let me see it again. How do I get to it? Here we go. You can't stop the Cretans from Hoppin, died on a plane with the Big Bopper. Dang, dude. That sounds like a cold, like, rap lyric.

It's basically a song where they just name drop a bunch of artists. That's basically what it is. So, there you go. Well, that's it, fellas. What an awesome, awesome self-title, dude. Yeah, there's still heaters all over the record, too. The scratch is right. Yeah.

Yeah. How many total, 12 songs? Yeah, you would expect maybe like eight tracks, 10 tracks or something from the guy. But yeah, he had a bunch of his sleeve. 30 songs, man. At some point, it would be great to talk about coloring the shape because that's another fantastic. We have. No, we have to.

Definitely. Definitely. At some point, you will catch up to where you've stopped, you know, kind of riding the foo fighter train. Well, man, twice now, I think in. You know, in this show we did spans of, you know, we did spoon for like however many, you know, boys, I want to bring that back. I know we're talking about a lot of stuff for a lot of episodes. I'm ready to do spoons, the ones that were you all stopped.

I've listened to, uh, dude, Lucifer on the sofa and I've listened to, uh, they want my soul. Heaters all over those records, dude. Yeah. So we're going to come back to that. Transference is phenomenal, dude. Yes. Some of my favorite spoon songs are they on.

I know, that's for sure. Who makes your money is one of my favorites, dude. I remember I think I'm pretty sure I bought transference in Austin. Spoon is. I know, dude. They're quietly just been burning, dude. They're top five for me forever and always. Not trying to end the food episode with like glazing spoon here.

It's arguably still doing. Well, you know, we're eager about what's next. Yeah, yeah. And this deserved a shout out, bro. Because, you know, we all like Travis and I said, what do you think when you think of their first record? That cover. I mean, it's timeless, dude. Yeah.

It has that image of the. You have the Buck Rogers gun. It has that FF for his logo. And it's the beginning of like Grohl saying, you know, this is maybe it's, he was a loud little freedom because it's food fire. That can be a little goofy. Roswell record. I can be a little goofy. But here's my heart and soul in some songs.

And then eventually it gets real, you know, emotional with shit, you know, like Aurora and ever long. Oh, yeah, dude. Straight up love songs. That goes my hero. I mean, it's big as you can get. My hero. I mean, arguably bigger than some of the old guys like Ozzie and fucking, you know, because he's more relevant to kids. nowadays, well maybe not so much nowadays, but you know what I mean.

The man is huge, rock star status beyond. Yeah. He's gotten as big as you can get, you know. Color and the shape, we should do that, no doubt. That's it, fellas. I think so off the mic we mentioned, I think we're going to, okay, are we going to go them crooked vultures next? Or do we want to mix it up and do that Phantom Planet self-titled.

Hmm. You know, I feel like we could do Phantom Planet. And then just to mix it up, it's kind of like our, you remember when we did the Radiohead episodes? We would do every other, or was it spoon, we would do every other episode just to kind of mix it up. That's kind of what I'm thinking. Well, I'm hoping that you guys, and if you haven't, please don't, go back and listen to this self-titled Phantom Planet. Please don't. Don't.

Okay. Come at it. Come at it with, you know, however many years since you've listened to it last. Keep it that way. Maybe over a decade. Maybe two decades. That's what I'm, okay, good. Is this the one with California on it?

It is? I had it. I had it. I had it too. It's called the guest is the name of the record. And yeah, dude, there's some sleepers on that one where it's, you know, like, where I think it all got overshadowed by the O.C. Oh, of course it did. Who knows, man.

That's probably what got them sold a bunch of, you know, tickets on tour was probably that because of that song. But, man, there's, dude, there are some earworms. And we'll get into it, Mitch. but I've got some good memories of listen to that album with you, Mitch. I don't know if you remember it, but we'll get into it. But yeah. I remember more of the other one, but yes, it's going to loosen some memories, no doubt. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So we'll cover that after our next watcher. Cool. Sounds great, man. We'll get us into the month of May. We're just chugging right along, friends. And there's a lot of paths back to them Crooked Vultures trap, too. You know, we can come through the Josh Hom route or Homie, however the fuck you're supposed to say it. Now, what about that other group, ProBot?

we even want to talk about ProBot? That's heavy. Yeah. Now, is that another Dave Grohl or is that just? Yeah, that's, no, that's Grohl. I'm pretty sure he's drumming on that. I'm pretty sure that's like a metal project. That could be interesting to do.

I'd never even heard of that. Yeah, man, ProBot. There's a song featuring Jack Black, dude. Oh, man, a song featuring Max Cavalera. That's the guy from Sepulturra. Seppletura, bro. Dude. I've never heard of this.

He got dirty there where he started drumming with gloves on. It was like that for a few years with. Oh, man. That's when you know, he's not. That's when you know the. motherfucker was like, yeah, dude. Give him some water and a fan because he's about to beat the shit out of these things, dude. He's not trying to get splinters, you know.

The dude is just a fucking monster. Yeah. Hope he gets his shit together in a way. God damn, Dave. Yeah, man, calm that. David? I think he, yeah. David, come on.

You do got to call him, David. For sure. Yeah. He's been, he's been a real David lately, you know. Classic David. Get back to fighting them foos, man. That's all I got, fellas, for this one. Hell yeah.

What you're going to close it with? Watershed was a good one, cute. We're closing with Big Me, man. You got to. Nice. I think that's a good one to outro out with. Man, they come flying off when that one gets played, bro. I'm talking about my underwear.

They come flying off because it makes me ready, dude. Yeah, did. It's such a good one, bro. Over my head if you didn't explain that joke. They come flying off. Panties come dropping, whatever. It's a good one, man. It's a campfire song.

I never thought of that song as a panty dropper, dude. Oh, dude, I do. It's so kind of like romantic, but like chill. Oh, man, it sets the mood. Are you kidding me? That's all it takes for Mitchie to get. Imagine that. You didn't play that in your dorm in the mid-90s?

That's it. It's a rap. I was playing Wonderwall, dude. Anyway, here's fucking wonderful. All right, Trayv, why don't she closes out? I'll try it. You're real good at the landing. Yeah, I love you.

Guys, make me a gush over here. Blush, I should say not gush. Let's not get carried away. What are we closing out with the end? Big me. Big me. Big me. All right.

Well, what? See, dude? You always put me up on that pedestal, and then I fall right off. So, yeah. If you want to get in touch with us, reach out to us on Instagram. Just search for no filler. And we'll pop right up. Give us your favorite Dave Girl project.

Music or otherwise, because maybe we're not thinking of some roles that he's done. He's got lots of cameras. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, dude. And, yeah, reach out to us on Instagram. Tell us anything. Tell us what you hate. Anything.

Literally anything. We just want to hear from our listeners out there. And, of course, you can find us on the Pantheon Podcast Network, pantheonpodcast.com. So you can follow their main podcast feed, wherever you get your podcasts, and that'll get the episodes that we remember to put on that feed. But yeah, just follow our podcast. channel. But yeah, that was a little rusty guys. I'm not going to lie. It was a little bit. If you comment on Spotify, I'll interact with you. I'm usually hovering on that. There you go.

That's true. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Kind of limit so much you can comment, but I'll see, give us a shout of something you want to hear or something we said wrong, you know, because I know I say a lot of wrong shit. Yeah. I also get a notification, like an email anytime I get a comment on Spotify. Oh, that's cool. There you go. Yeah. There you go. All right. Well, thanks as always. for listening to everyone. Mitchell, thanks as always for joining my friend.

Yeah, man. Keep fighting the food. Yeah, I do. And we're going to close with Big Me. And that'll do it for us this week. We'll come at you next time with the next what you heard. Thanks. Man, I'm fucking rusty guys.

Rusty, man. Thanks as always for listening. Oh, good. We're going to close that with Big Me. And we'll talk to you guys next time. My name is Travis. And I'm Quentin. Peace.

Take care.