No Filler Music Podcast - Pearl Jam - Ten

Episode Date: April 13, 2020

Thirty years later and rock fans are still at odds about what qualifies as "grunge" music. But despite Cobain's commentary on the band's underground cred (and their lack of sincerity with the flannel), few would argue Pearl Jam's grunge status and impact on the Seattle scene at the birth of the movement. In 1991, the year that grunge broke, Pearl Jam released their debut Ten just a month before Nevermind. With Mother Love Bone and Green River alumni Jeff Ament and Stone Gossard, Eddie Vedder's emotional vocal delivery made the album's dark themes of suicide, depression, and violence that much more impactful and powerful. Tracklist Pearl Jam - Alive Pearl Jam - Why Go Pearl Jam - Black Pearl Jam - Garden Echo & The Bunnymen - Do It Clean Miserable - Gasoline Stone Temple Pilots - Meatplow This show is part of the Pantheon Podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Shop before they're gone. In store online at Sephora.com. dealing with a lot of, you know, crap that I've been through and a lot of crap that people around me are going through. My crap that I see groups of people go through and people relate to it. So it's a little disheartening that so many people can relate to all the crap that's going on, you know. It means that there's just crap going on everywhere and what's good about this life? I don't know. Well, no.

So maybe it's just that maybe the beauty of life is actually getting through the struggle. And welcome back to No Filler, the music podcast dedicated to sharing the often overlooked hidden gyms that fill the space between the singles on our favorite records. My name is Travis. Got my brother Quentin with me in these trying pandemic quarantine social distancing times. Man, you're just throwing all the hot phrases in there, dude. I just want to get them all out out of the way. I thought we decided that this is going to be a safe space. It is, dude.

We're not talking about the death count or anything like that. Well, you know what? Look, dude, all you can do is say this. Just like Eddie Vedder just said, I'm still alive. That is true. You can say that. Let's wake up every morning and remind yourself that. Yeah.

I'm still alive. Could be worse. Could be worse. So that was Eddie Vedder talking about just, something that could be applicable to today's day and age. But, Key, when was that interview? Do you know the date when he was? That was either 91 or 92.

Okay. So he was being interviewed about 10. About 10, which is the album we're talking about today. Yep. And he was just saying, man, there's just all this crap that happens to people. Crap here, crap there, crap everywhere. And people can find that people can relate with the lyrics in my songs. And that's kind of a bummer.

that I'm finding out how many people actually, you know, are reaching out and telling me, you know, hey, I relate to this song or this, you know, this song spoke to me and this and that. You know, he's saying it's kind of a bummer, but, you know, it's how you react to it and get through the struggles. That's what it's all about. Yeah. We had a very similar intro interview clip for our corn episode where Jonathan Davis was talking about how the kids were, you know, able to really relate with his, his lyrics and they would just, you know, come out and to the shows and have this sort of like release, you know.

Yeah. Very therapeutic and all that good stuff. So there you go. Same, uh, just about the same time too, I bet that interview was probably early 90s with Jonathan Davis. So there you go. So anyway, we are, we're taking our next stop here on the, uh, on the 90s rock, mostly grunge-esque. rock music

uh train route I don't know bus stop well dude we gotta be careful who we call grungements and who we don't well we got

quittin's talking about we got our wrist slapped on Twitter by a die hard stone tip of pilots fan uh today actually yeah dude we got spanked man

we got spanked man we got spanked He said, what the fuck? What's wrong with you guys? Colin Stunt of a Pilots Grunge. Now, he didn't use those words. No, he did not. I'm paraphrasing, but he basically said,

you guys are a couple of fucking bumbling idiots is what I read it as. That's, yeah. I mean, I think that all caps definitely helms. Yes. You can feel that passion, dude. Yes. And you know what? That's the thing.

Like, if you were a diehard fan. Of any band that we talk about. Of any band that we talk about. Like, I'm surprised we haven't been getting. more hate mail messages like this dude yeah so basically he was saying

you guys you know Stone Temple Pilot was not is not never was a grunge man yeah and obviously

I guarantee you that that same exact argument was had many times over back in the back in the 90s and as we've sort of mentioned

we didn't we weren't alive well we were alive we weren't we weren't we weren't old enough, I guess, and

musically conscious enough to know the significance of the grunge movement as it was happening. We were too young. Right. So, you know, when you come out of it on the other end now or even in the, maybe in the 2000s when we were starting to pay attention

to music and stuff like that, yeah, all of these bands just kind of got lumped into the grunge label. And you listen to core, Stone Temple Pilots' first album. It sounds like grunge to me. So, you know, and plus, forgive my ignorance. You know, when we go into researching for an episode, you know, a lot of times we do end up thinking in terms of how people wrote about the band.

Right. A lot of times I just end up whatever people are saying about the band. That I'll end up referring to the band in that light just because, you know, I'm doing research and I'm not necessarily thinking about it from just how it sounds or, you know. What I like about this guy, that we even mentioned his Twitter handle, his name is at Dan Former. What I like about him and what I appreciate about him is that he actually took the time to write to us. I appreciate that because that's who we want to hear from, is the true fans who appreciate what we're doing, even if we don't always get it right.

And he sort of is illustrating exactly what we were talking about, where back in the early 90s when the grunge label, even as he points out in one of his tweets that, you know, it was a label that or a genre that record labels were eager to throw on things to, to push or sell an album, right? Yeah. Just to say like, hey, here's another band just like Nirvana. Exactly. So, I'm guessing his name is Dan. Dan, I'm guessing, was a, was in it, right? Like, as this was happening, probably in the camp of of the Cobain fans that we kind of mentioned where they were there at the beginning, they have a true sense of what grunge is because they lived it and experienced it. So when bands like Bush came along and were calling themselves grunge, yeah, I could see how

you would be offended, so much so that 30 years later you're using capital letters and a tweet to correct a couple of podcast hosts. That's a true fan right there. You know what, dude, I'm going to, I'll give them one more shout out because at Dan Formate, dude, you're the reason why we started down this 90s alt rock path. You're the one who suggested we cover Gish. And I'm, that was, you know, it's a great episode. I really liked covering that stuff and diving into the history of them.

That's all because of you, Dan. Exactly. So anyways. Yeah. Yeah, so it might sound like we're kind of being snarky here toward you, but it's all said with love, Dan. So keep listening. We appreciate it.

Keep interacting with us on Twitter. If you're somebody out there who has issues with something we say or agree with us on something that we say, like what we talk about, you can interact with us on Twitter. Our handle is at Nofiller podcast. So there you go. All right. So let's get into it here, Q. We're talking about Pearl Jam today. Yes.

And I'd like to see Dan Former tell us that Pearl Jam is not a grunge band. Okay. I mean, are they, though? They're from Seattle. So apparently that's all the matter. See, now, dude, you're already getting, you're already starting us down a bad path, bro. Are they not from Seattle? Well, Eddie Vedder is from California.

And he moved to Seattle. Okay, but the band is from Seattle, though. All right, dude. I'm just, you know what, I'm just trying to cover my ass. Every single member has to be born in Seattle as if like, you know what I'm trying to cover? My ass, dude. Our asses? No, that's fine, dude.

I'm not worried about it. So Pearl Jam, uh, tin came out in 91. Yes, this is their debut album. Debut album. So this is it, man. This is the year that Grunge started in, uh, goshy, now, now I'm fucking having a second guess everything I say. because I'm worried about Ad Dan Former.

Hey, you know what, dude? I was going to bring this up anyways. So two of the members of Pearl Jam, guitarist Stone Gassard, I probably didn't understand that name, right? And bassist Jeff A-Mint. Maybe it's A-Mint. I don't fucking know. A-Mint?

A-Mint. No, we're all stuck on our head here, man. I know, dude. Fuck. He's like, you fucking idiot. Thanks, Dan. Is a mint. It's ghost-sured?

So they used to play in Green River. the quote unquote first grungeman. Yeah, there you go. And dude, they started playing in 84. So grunge goes way back. Yes, yes, yes. But 91 is the year that... Nevermind comes out.

Yes. All that gets div. So 10 actually came out before, never mind. It was released before Nevermind. But anyways, yeah. So those two guys, Stone and Jeff, they were in Green River. And then they went on to this band called Mother Lovebone. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And then their lead singer, Andrew Wood, died of a heroin overdose in 1990. So shortly after that, they decided that

they wanted to continue making music together. So they started up a new band. Long story short, I'm not going to go into the history of how every single one of these guys got into Pearl Jam. But legend has it. So they were searching for a new. vocalist for the band. At this point, they had McCready on there as well. Mike McCready is lead guitar, looking for a lead singer, and they had a four-track demo tape with instrumental songs that they had been working on. The tape finds its way to Red Hot Chili Peppers' former drummer at the time, Jack Irons, who then hands it to Eddie Vedder. Vetter's down in San Diego. He's a surfer. That's like just what he's doing at the time. He hadn't slept in several days.

And then to quote Vedder, he said, the sleep deprivation came into play. You get so sensitive that it feels like every nerve is directly exposed. I started dealing with a few things that I hadn't dealt with and I had this music in my head at the same time. It was great music. It was bringing things out of me that hadn't been brought out. I was literally writing some of these words as I was going up against a wave or paddling. How did he keep his paper from? I don't know, dude.

That's why I said legend has it. So apparently he hadn't slept in several days. still didn't sleep. Goes up, you know, the next morning he goes for a surf. And he had just listened to this four-track demo. And then he just pins all these lyrics down after several days of not sleeping. And send his recordings to Seattle. They loved it.

And he moved down to Seattle like a couple weeks later. He was probably like hallucinating since he was sleep deprived. Yeah, dude. Catching some fucking waves. He was just in bed. Like the waves. were like his sheets or something. His fucking sheets, yeah.

Well, that's cool. So, yeah. And before they were Pearl Jam, they were called Mookie Blaylock. Okay. Who is the, that's the name of an NBA player. He played it for the New York Jets at the time. The only reason I bring that up, the name 10 or the number 10 for the album, that was Mookie Blaylock's jersey number.

Okay. That's where that comes from. So they had a whole theme. They were huge basketball fans, huge basketball fans. So I wanted to bring up Mookie Blaylock because, or Blaylock, because when I was, you know, looking into their history and everything. One of my favorite venues up here in Seattle is called El Corazon. There's also like a tiny little sub venue called Funhouse. And it used to be called Off-Ramp Cafe because it's like right off the highway.

Pearl Jam's very first gig. well, I'm sorry, Mookie Blaylock's first gig was at Funhouse. Wait, I thought he was a basketball player. No, dude. Mookie Blaylock, the band. Oh, Jesus. Their first show

was at Offram Cafe, which is, like I said, it's one of my favorite, like punk venues. I've gone there several times. So did they put out any demos or EPs under that name? I'm not sure, dude. Not 100% on that. I believe that all they had was

demo and those songs all eventually wound up on 10. But Eddie never sang when they were Blaylock. No, no, no. Eddie Vedder was in the band. Okay, okay. As Moogie Blaylock. Cool, cool. So that's, that is where Eddie Vedder sang his first, did his first little ditty with the band.

Yep. Anyways, guess who they opened for, dude. First gig at the Offeramp Cafe. Guess who they opened for? Pixies. Alice and Shains. Okay. Now it's all making sense.

Yeah, it's no, it's making sense. Yeah. So, do you know anything about the name Pearl Jam where that came from? His grandmother's name is Pearl. Grandmother's name is Pearl. And she married a Native American who had a... Jam. No, no.

Had a special recipe for peat-o-laced jam. Oh. So my guess is Vettors probably had a spoon-full of that back in the day. Hell yeah. Yeah. So that's how they came up with the name Pearl Jam. Cool. I like that.

So anyways, that's, I don't really want to talk too much history, you know. Yeah. Let's just talk about, let's talk about 10. So everyone knows the singles, even flow, alive, Jeremy. Yeah. I think there's one more single. Oceans. Oceans.

Yeah. Now, Q, as you know, as, as you know, maybe others don't. We don't talk about the singles. we try to talk about the more obscure tracks on a record. Right. So you want to talk about the lyrics a little bit? A lot of the songs do talk about like personal demons. There's songs about homelessness and, you know, just trying to break that cycle.

One of the songs we're going to cover, it's about this girl that's getting, she's getting admitted to a psych ward. So, yeah, lots of dark stuff. And I could see how, like he's saying, it does kind of, it's kind of disheartening that so many people have been reaching out to me and saying that they find similarities in their own life. Yeah. But yeah, it's a, yeah, it's a really dark.

I mean, I think that that is one of the, one of the hallmarks of grunge, or at least rock music after the 80s when you, you know, you're coming out of the decade of, Van Halen and Bon Jovi and stuff like that, right? Where they're just talking about girls, girls, girls and shit. Right another fucking steel horse or whatever. Grunge is about being, you know, authentic, you know, down to what they wore. Yeah. And that's what I've always liked about grunge music.

So speaking of authenticity, I feel like, now I got a quote from the infamous Cobain, who was just ruthless to these fucking bands, dude. Yes, yes. He was interviewed in 1992, and the guy asked him what he thought about Pearl Jam. And he says, I have strong feelings towards Pearl Jam and Allison Chains and bands like that. They're obviously just corporate puppets that are just trying to jump on the alternative bandwagon. I mean, come on, dude. We are being lumped into that category.

Those bands have been in the hairspray, cock rock scene for years. And all of a sudden, they stop washing their hair and start wearing. wearing flannel shirts. Doesn't make any sense to me. There are bands moving from L.A. and all over to Seattle and then claim they've lived there all their life so they get record deals.

It really offends me. That's fine. All right. Cobain. But like, I mean, Pearl Jam, I bet you they were wearing flannel before Nevermind came out.

Who fucking cares? Yeah, seriously. I mean, look, whatever. That's a whole other conversation. Like I've said before. But look, you remember one of the things of our first things we laughed at on this podcast on episode one was a picture of Pantera in the 80s? And yeah, they did still look like a hair metal band. But that was it back in the 80s, you know?

Yeah. Look, I understand. I get where he's coming from with bands that are moving to Seattle just to insert themselves into the scene. Yeah. And he's calling out Vedder, I think, because Vetter is from San Diego. go. Yeah, I totally get that. But dude, fucking Stone and Jeff, they were in Green River. So you can't get much more grunge than that. They were doing grunge before Cobain was doing grunge. Yeah. Anyways, dude, you want to jump into our first clip? Yeah, let's do it. Also, apologies,

if you can hear that. One of my fucking cats has got a little jingly ball and she's batting it around right outside. I'm sure you can hear it. Mama cat, she's on the hunt. She starts fucking meowing, dude, that's what she does. She bats this ball around, then catches it, and then has to announce to the whole goddamn house that she got it. She's like, I got a fresh kill in here. I fucking got it, guys. Dinner's on me tonight. All right. What do you want to play first? We're going to do, let's do Wigo. Yes, yes. This is a good track. Well, I didn't mean to play the whole song, but there you go. I love that song, dude. Yeah, no, great solo there in the middle. Yeah, that's just a straightforward like headbanger, man. I love that song

The lyrics are great too Yeah Like I said This one's Obviously about A girl that gets Admitted to a psych ward Some

Fucking dude with a clipboard And pin Decided she She needed to be in this Syc ward And her mom agrees I like the first line She scratches a letter

Into a wall made of stone Maybe someday another child Don't feel as alone as she does Yeah So, yeah, for the next sad person that gets thrown into this room, she'll have something to read on the wall. Yeah. With Jeremy, right, arguably, you know, one of their big, big, big mega singles. Oh, yeah.

It seems like he likes to write in third person about these troubled teenagers, right? Yep. Like Jeremy, which, you know, is a story about a kid in Texas. I think it's pretty pretty freaking close to to where we grow up. Let me look it up real quick. Richardson, Texas, man. Right down the road for me, dude. Yeah, man, right before we moved up here to Seattle, I was living in Richardson.

There you go. Yeah, so, yeah, he walks into a classroom and shoots himself in the head in front of 30 kids. And that was, that happened in 91. So that was fresh. you know, it tells you how topical Eddie Vedder's lyrics were, right? Right. So I wanted to play a clip from Stone. He and Eddie were interviewed while on tour.

So I want to say their first nationwide tour, they were opening for Red Hot Chili Peppers. So they were up in New York and they were interviewed. And then the interviewer kind of asked him about the background of, recording and all that. So here's Stone talking about 10. The record was actually, it was a very quick and very spontaneous kind of thing. I think we had almost all the material written within probably two separate times of Eddie coming up for about a week at a time. He came up for a week and we actually ended up recording about 10 songs and then came up a week later and we did another like probably 10 or so.

And some of it was written musically as far as like arranged and stuff before and some of it was written spontaneously like together as a jam and and some of it was written as a band, you know, even right before we went into the studio. And we basically made the record, I guess it was three or four months after becoming a band. So I think it's a very raw and very young signing record, which is exactly where we were at that time. I think that's kind of how this band wants to operate. and not spend a lot of time thinking about what it would have been like if we had waited in the six months and, you know, hired studio musicians to come in and play our parts. But letting some of the rough edges show and just being honest with where we're at musically and like, you know, this is what this is what we did. You know, in the first six months that we were together.

I love that, man. I mean, yeah, that's, that's, again, part of grunge, right, is the honesty and showing the rough hedges and stuff like that. Yeah, I like that too. And the reason I brought that up and wanted to play it, I read as well that the art direction, everything about this album, they all did themselves. The album cover, that is all members of the band with their hands holding one another. All their hands are up high, their arms up high. They're all holding each other's hands. And the big letters, Pearl Jam, in the back, that's a woodcut that was made from Jeff.

bass player. The original concept was about being together as a group and entering into the world of music as a true band, a sort of all for one deal. That's what I meant says. So they put it all together themselves and went with the art director, you know, everything about the band is just them, which is really cool. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah. Anyways, dude. As far as notes go, man, that's all I got. So let's just dive into some more tunes. Hmm. What's next? Black. the very next track to the very next track

yeah so I mean I for the longest time thought this was a single because I'm very familiar with this song going back years so I mean I really like this song quite a bit

now did you actually dive into see what discogs has to say because nine times out of ten if you go to discogs you find out that the entire goddamn album was a single well it wasn't an official single okay

we'll say that Okay, cool. Before we play it, I just want to say one of the things I love about it, his vocal delivery when he kind of, I don't know how to phrase it, but there's something he does with his vocals that I've always been drawn to. And it's just part of the verse, but like you kind of hear him drawing out this note.

You'll see what I'm talking about, for fuck's sake. Let's just play a verse, and then there's a little bridge part that we can play as a second clip. Yeah, dude, everything about that, man. Yeah, it's just such an emotional song. I love the guitar work throughout that verse. Yeah, so I'm very familiar with the song, and I know we talk about how we like to play more obscure stuff,

but this is a very famous, very well-known Pearl Jim song. And I thought that this was a single for the longest time because of my familiarity with it. But according to what I'm reading here, they refuse to make it into a single, despite pressure from Epic Records. And they're saying that one of the reasons they didn't want to make it a single was because it was too personal

and they were afraid that the emotional weight of the song would be destroyed in a music video. Which I think it's funny because back then, every single had to have a music video. I don't know if that's still the case today. I mean, it is for the major, major record labels and the major pop acts out there. But, I mean, shit, I mean, when you watch Germany,

You want to talk about emotional, the music video, and I think it's a great music video. They're talking about a kid who committed suicide in front of his classroom, and they did a great job with it. But let's pick up, pick it up again here. I just, again, I love his vocal delivery in the song. It's just so powerful. This is one of those songs that gives me goosebumps. So here is clip two from Black. What a beautiful song.

Yeah, man. It's just so brutal. So emotional, yeah. brutal. So obviously he's singing about like a relationship that that ended, you know, and he's sort of reflecting back and saying like, how can this thing that brought me so much joy, like it's, now it's just completely. Yeah.

I like the line, you know, my bitter hands cradle, broken glass of what was everything. Yeah. Like something that's the relationship, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And the first verse, sheets of empty canvas, untouched sheets of clay were laid spread out before me as her body once did. So now he's laying in back. head alone looking back, you know, remembering when they used to share that bed together. Yeah, I love the line, like you're saying, in the bridge, that part always gets you. I know someday you'll have a beautiful life.

I know you'll be a star in somebody else's sky, but why, why can't it be mine? I mean, who hasn't had that thought across your mind after a breakup, right? Yeah. Like, you know, you just, you just acknowledge the fact that like, oh, you're, this beautiful thing that I once had is going to be somebody else's someday, you know? Yeah. Dude, it's funny reading along with these lyrics while listening to the song

because they try to put his vocalizations in the lyrics. Oh, yeah. But if you don't know the song, you're just reading it like, mm-hmm, ooh. Ooh, ah, yeah, ah, ooh. Right, right, right. But then you listen to the song, it's like, man, he fucking really sells that.

that you know yeah yeah i do like how he uh vocalizes along with the guitar solo that we faded out with is the what ends the song yeah do do do do do do do do do yeah that melody that goes throughout the song it's done in a piano it's done with a guitar and like you're saying he he sort of dubs himself over it and vocalizes it yeah over and with the guitar it's just a great song man and that's the funny thing that clip that you played where uh stone was saying And oh, yeah, man, we, you know, we banged this out in a couple of sessions, you know. Yeah, and he was like, we could have waited a few months and pulled in some session musicians to play our parts, but we just wanted to keep it raw. There's, there are bands that will never write a song that good, ever.

I mean, it's such a great song. Dude, and this is their debut effort, man, as a band. So I think it's funny that, and I don't know if that was, I mean, come on, they had to have known how incredible these songs were. Yeah. So they kind of try to play it off like, yeah, you know, it's showing some rough edges and stuff. And we just wanted to be honest with it, with, you know, kind of where we were at musically. It's like where you're at musically is some of the best rock music ever written. Yeah.

So it's kind of funny that they've phrased it that way. There was a Reader's poll that Rolling Stone released back in 2013 of 10 greatest debut albums of all time. Number one is 10. They made it number one on this, on this reader's poll list. Now, what was on the poll? I wonder, like, what did they have to choose from? You know? So. Or was it just in or in whatever you want?

It says the Rolling Stone editors recently selected their list of the 100 best debut albums of all time. Okay. And then they asked people to vote on the top 10. So, yeah. And then people chimed in and said, hey, I can't believe you left out this or that. It said, we figured the best way to respond was to allow the readers to create their own list. Okay. So number 10, the Beatles, please, please me.

Please please me. Number nine, the killer's hot fuss. Nirvana bleach is number eight. Then you've got the Jimmy Hendricks experience. The Strokes is the Sit is number six. Okay. The Doors, self-titled, number five. Van Halen self-titled, number four.

Boston self-titled, number three. Zeppelin self-titled. Number two, and then Pearl Jam's. tin is tied with guns and roses appetite for destruction. Guns and roses, to be honest, I've never listened to anything but the singles.

Same. So, and the singles are, so, you know, they're everywhere, right? I mean, yeah. Dude, I can't imagine. There's people probably screaming at us right now. Yes, yes. There's more, there's more Danformers out there on Twitter ready to fucking rip us a new one. especially if we actually get around to talking about guns and roses

it's going to be filled with fuck up or re here's the deal if we talk guns and roses or any of those bands from the 80s we got to cover our asses by getting a guest on here to talk about it with us so anyways yeah many people pointed this as one of the best debut records of all time yeah and you can totally see why and you can see why yeah so we got one more song to play, but before we jump into that, dude, I want to give a shout out. Bill Withers passed away this past week. I read that. Yeah, dude. I love, always loved Bill Withers, man. I mean,

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Promote no filler. Let's get to spicing it up in the bedroom, dude. So cute. Do you think if, you know, plenty of people are probably listening to Bill Withers right now, remembering the man honoring him, and we're over here using his name and his music to sell some sex stories. Now, I think he would perhaps be honored by that. I think so. I hope he, you know, we can only hope.

And let's just assume that he's okay with that. All right, Q, back to songs about... People in psych wards and lost loves. That's kind of a 180, but... That's a 180, dude. Nothing spicy about that. Nothing. So we got one more song.

We got one more great tune here. We're playing Garden, right? Yes. Let's do this. I like the harmonies in that one. Yeah, I mean, there's... You know, you get a lot of different things out of Pearl Jam that you don't get with a nirvana or even, you know,

in Allison Chains, right? And that's the fucking point, man. Yeah. There is no, there is no sound. There is no grunge sound, one definitive grunt sound. Right. And there shouldn't be. I'm glad that there isn't, you know.

Yeah. Well, like I say, dude, these guys aren't getting together. You know, hey, all right, guys, what kind of band you want to be? You guys want to do grunge? Sure. Right. Exactly. It was more organic than that.

There's no point in trying to label bands. This, that, or the other. It doesn't matter. Exactly. Yeah. Anyway, the guitar in the beginning, very melodic, very, almost, you know, I'm just going to throw this out there. I'm going to see if it sticks on the wall. Kind of Metallica-esque.

I, dude, I've had a lot of Metallica moments. Well, that's because you. The lighters. All right, dude, I know. I know. I know, dude. it. I should never say one damn thing about Metallica because I don't know shit. You're fine. But no, like the lighter side of Metallica. No, yeah. Metallica is known for its, it's, you know,

acoustic melodic intros that would something like that, or even a classical guitar melodic intros that would lead into songs, right? Yes, that's what I'm talking about. Yes, exactly. That's kind of, I got that vibe a little bit. Yeah. And it would be stupid to assume that the, the, these guitar players in Pearl Jam. What are their names? Stone and Mike. Sona Mike, I guarantee you they listen to Metallica

when they were growing up. Oh, yeah. I put money on that shit. So yeah. And the fuck, Eddie Valin, Eddie Valin. I almost said Eddie Van Halen. Eddie Vedder is from

California. So are the Metallica boys. So I betcha he was a fan too. There you go, man. now we're now we're fucking we're connecting all the all the dots are going to connect to here really good really good song I'm not I'm not gonna attempt to figure out what this one's about dude it's about walking walkin it's about walking it's about walking with your face I'll go with my hands bound I will walk with my face blood I will walk with my shadow

flag into your garden Garden of Stone. Sounds like maybe you're seeing about someone in the military or something. A Garden of Stone. Garden of Stone could be a graveyard. It could be a graveyard. Oh, a fucking tombstone. Garden of Stone, yeah. There's a movie. It came on in 87 called Gardens of Stone. It was actually, it was based on a novel. Yeah, it's about a guy who stationed, a war veteran who

was stationed as a guard in Arlington National Cemetery instead of an instructor of new recruits during the Vietnam War. So he got he got thrown in to be a guard at a cemetery at a national cemetery and he wanted to go instruct new recruits during the Vietnam War and he got he got stuck at a at a cemetery. So that's exactly what it's about. Everybody plays a role in the military. That's true. But yeah, uh, Gardnerstone. That's about a, it's about a funeral. It's about a cemetery. Oh, God damn. Anyway, dude.

Yeah, so here's what I like about about Eddie as a as a songwriter. I feel like his lyrics are so poetic, I guess. They're very, they're very, he's a storyteller, you know. That's what I appreciate about Pearl Jam. That's what I appreciate about this album. And that's what you get from Pearl Jam, you know. Yeah. Not that you don't get that from Nirvana.

or smashing pumpkins or any other bands that we're going to talk about in this stint of of 90s rock music. I'm just saying it stands out to me, Eddie Vedder's lyrics, the emotion that he brings to his songwriting. You know, you can feel it. Yeah. I can see how this made it, this is considered by many, one of the best debut albums. Yeah.

It's those kind of albums, man, that are full of stories and symbolism and poetic. writing. That's the kind of stuff I always am drawn to. Yeah, and it's about, you know, the struggles that people, people can relate to. Definitely. All right, dude. That's that. Let's wrap this puppy up. You got to watch your herd for me this week, dude? I do. I do have what you heard. And I know nothing about this artist. So I'm going to, I'm going to try to figure that out. Can I go first then, brother? Yeah, yeah, go ahead. I'll get some quick deets here. So I think I mentioned this a couple episodes back when I covered that

Wash Your Hand song by the Falcons of Fine Dining. I heard that on K-E-X-P and like I said, they've kind of got on this cake of playing songs that could relate to us all having to deal with this new reality. and I tuned in yesterday and they're about three quarters of the way through this song by Echo and the Bunnyman, who needs no introduction. We actually covered these guys as a sidetrack for our Interpol episode. They're that kick-ass, you know, new wave punk kind of whatever you want to call them band. And yeah, I heard this song on K-E-X-P yesterday.

It's a fucking great track. It is a song called Do It Clean. Yeah, man, great track. No wonder we played that as our side track for Interpol because the base is just very, I mean, Interpol was very, very influenced by New Wave. Oh, yeah, by bands like the CIRLOS D. Yeah.

Echoing the button, yeah. Definitely. Yeah, dude. Just reminding us to do it clean. And that's really important right now, dude. Everything you do? Yeah. Do it clean.

So this radio station is just They're there Any song that has to do with cleanliness Yep They're gonna play it Yeah sounds like I've had since this whole thing started I've heard

Don't stand so close to me On KexB A billion times I bet Yeah And that song wash your hands And then I heard this one yesterday Anyways another shout out to KXP Every

Can we get I don't think we can get one month without me mentioning KXP. Why don't we trying to get some sort of deal going on here, Q? All right, I'll reach out to them. Okay. I mean, they're a non-profit, right? Yeah.

Okay. Well, whatever. All right, dude, what you've been heard lately. Okay, so don't remember how I stumbled upon this artist, but it was probably just bouncing around on Spotify for some shoegaze. because it's another Shugay's Artiskew. What I like about her,

her name, her recording name is miserable. She goes by miserable. But her name is Christina Esfandieri. And she's been in other bands before, like Whir and King Woman. Whir?

But this is whir. H-I-R. H-R. Gotcha. But Miserable. is her solo project. And she put out a record, 2018,

called Loverboy slash dog days. And the song that I'm going to play, it's called gasoline. And I kept reaching to start to fade that out, and I just had to keep listening, dude. Mm-hmm.

It's great. Yeah. The whole album is like that. Most of it is actually a little bit more you know there was the chorus that had a little bit of uplift to it most of the record is a little bit more I don't want to say depressing but more mellow more melancholy sure yeah melancholy I'm just having I'm having trouble with the words to take you that's all right

I loved it dude I'm definitely going to give that a listen yep yeah she's got she's got a few records out But this is, I'm seeing it right now. Her first record is called Halloween Dream. I would think that that's kind of a, maybe a play on Tangerine Dream. Just a thought. So yeah, I think I found her bouncing around from fans also like on Spotify for

Narrowhead, that band that I'm in love with and can't stop listening to. So. Cool, man. Thanks for sharing, dude. I'm into it. Yeah, yeah, dude. All right, let's wrap this puppy up. All right.

I don't know what we're doing for a sidetrack. It's going to be something, you know, in the same vein as the grungy stuff we've been covering. Well, here's what I'm excited about you. After we do our Pearl Jam sidetrack, you remember what we're doing after that? I don't want to say something to be wrong and bump people out. All right. doing no doubt. Yes.

Kingdom. Yes. That's what I was hoping. You were going to say. And then we're going to, after our sidetrack for no doubt, we're going to do Blink 182 in a month of the state. Yes. And then we're going to, now that's when we're changing gears after that, right?

You want to go? Potentially. I mean, we could stay in the 90s if we wanted to, but that is all we have planned so far. Well, I have an idea for what to do post-blink. And I won't talk about it. Spill beans. I won't spill beans. but I think it'll be a lot of fun.

Anyways, you know what's funny, man? We don't do this enough. But on the same day that this episode comes out, why don't you go and listen to another podcast on the network, the Pantheon podcast network, because they're talking about Kirk Cobain. Oh, shit. That's all I see here.

One of our other podcasts on our network is called Rock and Roll Heaven. And I don't even know anything about the host, shows you how much of a team player I am. But they are talking about they or the single person is talking about Kirk Cobain. And then they have a Cobain conspiracy theories episode after that. Okay. So that should be out by the time this Pearl Jam episode is released. Same day.

So hop on over and listen to that. Cool. Musical, rock and roll heaven. Rock and roll heaven. Awesome. As we just mentioned there, we are part of a podcast network. called Pantheon. It's a Pantheon Music Podcast Network.

You can find us on Pantheonpodcast.com where you can find dozens of like-minded podcasts that talk about everything music-related. And you can find us on our website, no-filler.com, no-fielderpodcast.com, sorry. And you can find all of our previous shows, all of our show notes,

and track list for each episode on that website. And you can listen to us wherever else you listen to your podcast. We should be just about everywhere. And yeah, that's that. That'll wrap us up. And you know what? We thought we were going to close it out. We figured we'd throw a bone to Mr. At Dan Former

and play a track that he wished we had covered on our Stone Tip of Pilots episode. And I got to say, I love this song. I considered playing it, but I didn't. You know what, dude? That's all, that was all on you, brother. I handed you the keys for the STP episode. So, you know what? I'm washing my hands on this one.

I see. I see what's going on here. Throwing me under the bus. That's right. That's fine. But we're going to play another stunt type of pilots track. Holy smokes, man. I thought we were done with them.

but we're going to play a song called Meat Plow. It's the first song on Purple. Yes. This one's for you at Dainformer. That's going to close us out today. That'll do it for us. Thank you so much as always. Did you drop your mic again, dude?

No, no, no, that's fine. Don't worry about it. Thank you so much as always for listening. My name is Quentin. My name is Travis. Yeah, I'll take care.