No Filler Music Podcast - Sidetrack: Jonny Greenwood - You Were Never Really Here OST

Episode Date: February 17, 2019

​On this week's Sidetrack we take a listen to Jonny Greenwood's soundtrack for the 2017 psychological thriller ​"You Were Never Really Here​". With both ambient and beat-heavy tracks, the OST gives us a solid representation of Greenwood's diversity as both a composer and an electronic artist. For more info, check out the show notes: https://www.nofillerpodcast.com/episode/album-review-radiohead-hail-to-the-thief#sidetrack Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We are talking about the music of Johnny Greenwood, guitar player of Radiohead. As you all know, we've been talking about Radiohead for the last few months. And so we're trying to, you know, I think we did a sidetrack on the drummer, right, Phil Selway. Is that his name? No, we didn't, Travis. Are you sure about that, dude? Well, we did, but we didn't launch it because you said it was too boring. Oh, shit.

I kind of agree. Yeah, no, dude, we recorded that episode right before I went on vacation and then you decided to just do a solo album, a solo episode instead. Well, yeah, so, yep. So we had, we had the intention of sort of hitting some side projects from all these guys. Because we have talked about Tom York's, we did an episode on his Susperia soundtrack. But anyway, so today we're talking about Johnny Greenwood, and we're going to talk about and play a couple of songs from the score that he did for a 2017 psychological thriller called You Were Never Really Here. I have not seen this movie. Q have you?

I haven't, but I'm a fan of most things that Joaquin Phoenix does. And I'm pretty sure that's his bearded face on this album. cover. That is him. Yeah. Yeah. From what I understand, this is a sort of a crime war kind of thing where he is like this hitman who hunts down and kills people who kidnap children.

Oh, that sounds fucking dope, dude. Yeah, dark and gritty. Yeah, if you look closely, he's holding a ball peen hammer. See that? That's his weapon of choice. Oh, dude. Nice vocab, bro. you knew what kind of hammer that was.

I'm, I'm not, where did that knowledge come from, dude? Well, because I've been reading about the movie. That's why I know. Okay. Let's just say, too, that if you don't know, Johnny Greenwood did the soundtrack for There Will Be Blood. And some other things, too. He did the Phantom Thread.

Yeah. So here's what I did. So today I listened to bits and pieces of all of these, scores by Johnny Greenwood. And you were never really here is really the first score that he's done that sounds, that bits and pieces of it sound like a Radiohead song. Everything else that he's done is more like orchestral, you know, strings and sounds like a more traditional, you know, film score.

So, and I think I haven't, I confess, I haven't seen. in any of these movies that he's done the scores for. But I think that, you know, like with There Will Be Blood and in all these other films, like it seems like an orchestral score seems kind of like they would be more fitting for those types of movies versus a movie like this. You know, it's set in modern times, you know, and it's gritty and there's, you know, it's, you know, it's a thriller. So that's probably why he, that's my guess is that why he's, why he's.

shifted more toward like, you know, away from the strings and stuff, because it probably fits the movie better. But anyway, because this is a sidetrack, let's just get straight into it, huh? Let me just give you one quote from Johnny Greenwood. He was interviewed by NME about the score. And he says here, he was asked, what makes a good score in your eyes? And he says, Music's a pretty great resource to have. You're looking for the moments when the film and score combined to make something greater than the sum of their parts, to make both element better than they would be on their own. Sometimes it happens. So, there you go.

I can only guess that this music, you know, improves and makes the movie better. And, I mean, when you listen to it, I don't see how it couldn't make the movie. It would be better because it's pretty awesome. So here we go. We're going to listen first to a song called nausea. So I got to ask you, brother, did the offbeat drumming bother you as much as it did me? It threw me off at first until I started to like appreciate it because like it's really cool because like and I'm guessing it's probably. I mean, think about the name of the song, Nausea.

And like, I'm guessing the scene maybe has to do with something like that. So, I mean, you know, it gives you this sort of off-kilter feel, you know? Yes. You're trying to like catch back up. Immediately, you know. Right. Right. And so that immediately reminded me of Thomas Bengaltors soundtrack for the movie.

What was it called? Irreversible. Yeah. So we've talked about this. This was on our first episode. but we talked about this song. Yeah, we talked about it. So that's the, that's one half of Dafton, right?

And he did, he does scores for movie. I don't know if he's done more than one score, but. Well, obviously they did, Tron, you know. Right, together. Right. But yeah, that, that movie irreversible, which was supposed to be like a psychological horror thriller or whatever. I think it was a French film. It came out in the early 2000s.

Well, yeah. He has a song called rectum. Was that the one? Yeah. Which was supposed to be... Are you saying the only reason it makes you think of that is because of the uneasiness that it makes you feel? Because other than that, there's really no similarities. Okay.

It's not like there's an offbeat drum track or anything like that, you know. But what I like about this... the song from Johnny Greenwood here, nausea, is that like, you know, like I just said, the drumbeat is like constantly trying to catch back up with itself,

you know, which is really interesting. Yeah. Because it's not like it's offbeat the entire time. It's offbeat for a couple of, you know, a couple of, you know,

what's it called? Yeah, a couple of measures. Yeah, a couple of measures. Sure. Whatever. This is why we need a fucking musician on this pocket.

But yeah, and then it gets us back up to itself, which is really cool. I like that. Yeah. Yeah, I know there's like, there's one phrase, you know, or whatever of each, of each measure where the snare drum is off. Yeah, but it's, I like it. So anyway, all right.

I just wanted to play that because I thought that was really interesting what he did. And, you know, it sounds, you know, straight up like a, almost like a, you know, techno song or something, you know? Yeah, yeah. All right. So we're going to play one more song. I didn't pick up on any, on any radio head there. I'm hoping that the next one. feels more like a radiohead song, bro.

Well, when you listen to everything else that he's done for, for movie scores, you know, as far as like... It sounds like a score for a movie, like more streams and stuff like that song, you know, he's doing sort of the electronic stuff that he sometimes does for radio head. But yeah, I think the next song here with the great play is going to sound a little bit more like a radio head song. Not really, hey, it's not a radio head song. It's a Johnny Greenwood song for a movie.

But like I said Compared to the other stuff he's done This is more in line with You know something you might hear on a B side or something So all right Let's play The song is called Dark Streets Reprise

What a cool song right I didn't like it a lot That was fucking great And again I have no idea what scene that that's in You know But You know Just a really cool sort of

You know I like how I had those kind of There's a couple of movements there, you know. It would stop and then come back and yada yada. Yeah, it was a cool track. I wonder if Greenwood's behind the kit playing drums on that, you know? These are great questions, cute. I don't have the interest for you.

I don't know, dude. That's fine. Who cares? Yeah, yeah. If it's not a real kit, then, you know, he's definitely behind the drum track, drum machine, you know. Sure. behind the drum pads. Yeah.

Cool, man. That was great. A little subject. Dude, so something very telling about the members of Radiohead. You know, I think our first sidetrack when we started our Radiohead Thon or Palooza, Radiohead Paloosa, whatever you want to call it, was the soundtrack for Susperia. Yeah. Which Tom York did. And that, dude, the song.

on that soundtrack that feature Tom York's singing. I mean, yeah, he's the lead singer of Radiohead but they sounded

like Radiohead songs. Yeah. And then you've got Johnny Greenwood doing his own thing here doesn't really sound a lot like Radiohead. It's fucking cool,

you know, and it's unique and different, but none of that sounded like Radiohead to me. But I get what you're saying. Yeah, you know, like you hear

a soundtrack from Johnny Greenwood most of the times it's just going to sound like a heavy stringed song, right? The kind of the kind of song you'd expect to hear as a score on an album where these are more like just individual

kind of like ideas you know like really cool little like they kind of stand up on their own you know. Yeah and I mean I will say that there are other tracks from that score that like when you listen to it as a whole there are definitely there are some more like

string there is pieces of orchestra orchestrated songs in there I mean it's not the whole thing is not like that I just wanted to play those two songs because they're to me the most you know unique of the songs they were on that album but yeah

yeah are you trying to is the point you're trying to make is that Tom York is radiohead is that you're trying to say like because Well, I don't want to say that, man, because, like, from what, from what we've learned and, you know, go back to our previous episodes on Radiohead, you know, over time, I mean, we know that. Yeah, we know that that's not true. We know that, like, you can't have radio head without Phil Selway. You can't have radio head without Johnny Greenwood, yada, yada, you can't. Well, but if you would have said, if you would have said that to Tom York in the early days, he would have said, nope, it's all me, right? Because that's, that's how it was for them in the early days. But yeah, no, absolutely.

There's no radiohead without the other members of the band. I think when you listen to the stuff from Susperia where Tom York is singing, the reason it sounds like a radioheaded song is because Tom York is singing, right? Because it's, yeah, it's Tom York. Because he's singing, yeah. His voice is unmistakable, yeah. Right, right. There's plenty of songs on Susperia that are instrumental that sound nothing like radiohead's ever done. So, but yeah, I mean, to maybe talk back to your point, like, I don't think you're actually getting to this, but I mean, I think that the fact that separate members of Radiohead are talented enough to score films tells you something about the talent that makes up Radiohead, you know.

Yeah. And we briefly mentioned talking about Philip Silway and what he's done, even though that's a lost episode. now. Yeah, well. But yeah, Philip Selway, drummer for Radiohead as he does some solo stuff

and he actually's done, he's done a score for a movie. And he also sings. And I don't know. Maybe I'll bring him back up for what you heard or something because his music's really pretty. And it, yeah,

it's another one of those things where it stands up on its own. it's not, you know, it doesn't sound like Radiohead. It's just really pretty, mostly acoustic stuff that he does on his own. Yeah, so cool, dude. This is awesome. I don't know what we're going to do. We've got one more Radiohead album to cover, which is going to be a month from now.

We're going to finish up within rainbows. But we'll have one more sidetrack to attach to that album. you know what dude maybe i'll give a listen to some more phillips elways albums maybe we can fucking revisit him dude and and get some of his stuff out there sure or i mean maybe we could see if uh colin did anything solo you know i don't think he is yeah yeah so all right man i think i think i think we got a solid sidetrack in here um so that was johnny greenwood's uh track for the movie you were never really here that came out last year um next week we're going to cover beck's album sea change which came out uh in 2002 and dude i am so pumped to share these tunes with you man

Travis hasn't listened to this album all the way through. I think the only song he's heard is track one. So I'm just so excited, man. This is one of those albums for me that, you know, who cares about like top tens or whatever? I don't know if we would make it on there, but this is just one of those albums that's just very, it's just a special record.

It's just something about it. Dude, the way that they approached recording it, the other musicians and instruments that they pulled in for each track, it's just a thing of beauty, dude. I can't wait to listen to it with you. Yeah, man, I'm excited. Yeah. All right, so that's going to do it for us this week.

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