No Filler Music Podcast - So We Meet Again: The Triumphant Return of Kings of Convenience

Episode Date: July 5, 2021

Our relationship with Kings of Convenience goes back nearly 20 years, and we've been waiting more than half that time for new music from them. Their new album "Peace Or Love" feels like catching up with a dear old friend, or a home cooked meal after months of travel. No matter how much time passes, the reunion is always worth the wait. Tracklist: Rumours Angel Washing Machine Killers Catholic Country Gold for the Price of Silver This show is part of the Pantheon Podcast network. Pantheon is a proud partner of AKG by Harman. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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On our favorite records My name is Travis I got my brother Quentin with me Two boys talking about two boys today, Q. You know? A couple Texan boys talking about a couple Norwegians. That's right.

Boys, that is. Men. They're men. So are we. Some might say that we're men. But yeah, we're talking about kings of convenience today. There's no other voice, pair of voices, right? Those are unmistakable.

So if you're familiar with these guys, you probably know who that was, who played us in as our intro. or if you read the title of the episode, you would know that we're talking about kings of convenience. These guys have and will always have a special place in both of our hearts. There's just something about what happens when these guys start harmonizing. Kind of like when we talked about Crosby, Stills, and Nash. When those three voices got together, right? Magic happened.

It's on par with the Simon and Garfunkel, you know? Yeah, definitely. once in a, you know, however many decades kind of pairing. Yeah. And, dude, we had to wait 12 years to hear these boys harmonized together again. And man, does it feel great to hear some new tunes from them? It's, yeah, it's one of those things where it happened last year when, when Ireland put out a new record or a new single under the widest boy alive banner,

where you and I were like, dude. New track, Why I Spoil Live. Listen to it right the fuck now. Yeah. Doesn't matter what you're doing. Press play. Same thing happened earlier this year.

We actually put it on, it was an intro for one of our What You Heard's. We played Rocky Trail, which is the single, one of the singles off this record. But yeah, it's a stop, stop what you're doing and

put on some headphones and push play because something special is about to happen. And anytime these guys make music together, something special happens. Yeah. and and this is not a no joke here i mean i can think of maybe i don't know one other band and i'm thinking fleet foxes um that moves me in a way that i'm you know damn near brought to tears when i'll hear them yeah uh and yeah when when i heard rocky trail dude like just that you know 12 years later

finally I get to hear new music from my favorite folk pop duo and yeah dude it just I got choked up man yeah not because of the you know necessarily the lyrics you know or the content of the song but just their music it just moves me in that way there's something about it yeah and as one of the one of the top comments on YouTube for the

rocket trail video said that just when the world needed them the most, they returned, right? Yeah, dude. That's perfect. All right, Q, before we get started, you and I did something a little bit different. We guested, is that the right term, Q, guested. We were guests on a podcast.

We got to do some guesting. An indie music podcast is what he labels it as. But we were guests on the Bind and Scoop indie music podcast. Yeah, we got to join Bob on his after show and just talk about music and vinyl. And it was a lot of fun, dude. Yeah, we got to chat about our, like our musical journey, you know. You and I have kind of an interesting journey because we took it together for the most part being twins, right? Right, right.

Yeah, we got to talk about, you know, growing up listening to our older brothers, Grunge Records, getting exposed to a bunch of different type of music from our radio DJ father. Hey, no spoilers, brother. Well, if you're a listener of this podcast, you already know all this stuff. But yeah, we got to share a little bit about our musical upbringing, as it were, and just chat about vinyl. Yeah, really, really cool podcasts. The format's awesome. It's basically like what I imagine would be like tuning into some pirate radio.

from like the 70s or 80s. It's just a really cool, like, DJ format, music mix. It's like a mixtape, basically. Yeah, he kind of makes it feel like a wacky morning zoo type radio program or something like that. Lots of background sound effects and audio clips from movies and stuff. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. A lot of fun. Lots of good music too, man.

Yeah, so it's like if you like our monthly What You Heard episodes, that's kind of what every episode is for him. You know, he just brings a collection of music and then he has a couple of, or probably just one guest usually. But, you know, Q, you and I, we're a package deal. We're coming together. We're a package deal. Yeah.

Been that way for years, dude. Yeah, no kidding. That's, you know, since the womb, basically. Yep, since the loom. But yeah, check it out. We are episode 57. It's the latest episode right now. So check it out, bend and scoop.

And, yeah, all right, let's get into this brand new Kings of Convenience Record, Q. Let's do it. All right. So we've actually done a couple of episodes on these guys, early episodes. So if you go back in our catalog, episode two, I believe. Well, as quiet as the new loud. Was it episode two? Yeah.

Wow. According to our notes, I'm looking at our notes from back then. Well, yeah, dude. So that shit, man, those notes are all the way back to our, like, like original plan, like before we even launched the podcast because we ended up going with riot on an empty street. And I don't think that was until like several episodes in. But then we dropped Quiet as the New Loud as a bonus episode. That's right. So yeah, we've actually covered two of their records on this podcast. We did Quiet as the New Loud, which is their debut record. And the next

one that came out after that right on an empty street. So some of this you may have heard if you, if you've actually gone back and listened to those episodes, but, you know, we're going to revisit some of that stuff. Let's do the cliff notes. Yeah, here's basically all you need to know right about these guys, right? Their names are Ireland, Oya, and Iric, Glembeck, Bo. Is that right? Did I do that? That's beautiful. Okay, perfect. Both born and 75. They've known each other for a long time. And, you know, basically they both started playing guitar and became friends through that similar interest in music. And so they formed a band called Skag at age 20. Oh, man.

I forgot already about them, dude. They're great. And there's an EP that you can find out there. It came out in 96 called Tom Tids Tale, Tom Tid's Tale, something like that. But anyway, what they, what they, basically a few years later, they just wanted to be a duo. So this band, Skog, it was them and a couple other guys probably, right? The typical band structure. But they just wanted to trim the fat, basically, and just be a duo, right?

They just wanted to write pretty music. Yeah, basically, here's Ireland, here's a quote from Ireland. He says, we used to be in a rock band called Skog, but I was getting sick of all the songs going from quiet to loud. I started wondering whether they could go from quiet to even quieter. Love it. Where the quiet bit is the most intense bit of the song, which is really interesting to think about. And I love that he takes that and their first album,

he calls it Quiet as the New Loud Dude. Yeah, it's great. I love it. And yeah, another thing that, and I think I remember talking about this when we did an episode on them in the past because this quote always stood with me. Basically, Aeron said the reason that they wanted to make music like this was because they wanted to hear more of it.

So early 2000s or whatever when they were doing this kind of stuff, there was no new Simon and Garfunkel sounding music or Crosby Steel's Nash, all that kind of folk stuff from the 60s. Oh, that was the garage rock revival period, dude. Yeah. So they wanted to be the antithesis to the loud garage rock and grunge music that just came out of the 90s. And so they started making this folk pop type stuff, which was, you know, there was a down a dozen bands like this out there, right? But these guys really do stand out among the rest because of what happens when their voices

come together. And I feel like they always threw kind of a boss and nova flare on their music as well, which, which I think you'll hear some of that in our tracks from today as well. And I wanted to say, too, like, because I think we've used this term before. And I don't remember, you know, it may have just been one random article that I read that that referenced it in this way. But that period of music around the time that they burst on the scene, that's considered the, you know, quiet as the new loud genre, right? Yeah. And I don't remember where I read that.

But, you know, there's, like, I guess you could put clientele in there. Yes, you could put clientele in there. You could put bands like Matt Pompeii. Yeah. Which is kind of an obscure band. But yeah, even, you know, if you wanted to go to the extreme. Yeah, stuff like that. But yeah, there were a lot of bands putting out music like this.

But again, these guys were something special. And I think it's because of how they approached it, right? Two singers, right? Really quiet. I mean, they took it to the most literally, I feel like, quiet is the new loud. Especially when you listen to that album, dude. Yeah. You know, they're both incredible guitar players, too.

I think their actual music that they wrote was also exceptional. You know what I mean? The actual melodies and stuff stand out as well. There's some jazz elements to it. Like I said, Basanova. And they brought in Feist too. So they had that in their pocket. They had Feist join them on the second record and also this new record.

So we're actually going to play one of the Feist tracks today, which is probably one of the best tracks on the record, actually, this new record. All right. So yeah, let's just, enough talking. Let's play our first track here, and then we will keep chatting about this here. But one thing to note, like we said, it is two different singers and sometimes they'll harmonize throughout the entire song. Sometimes it'll be one or the other. This first song that we're playing is called Angel. And it, I think almost entire like i don't know if if airland even shows up on this track i think it's just irick there might be some harmonizing but i think we've got a good mix of of of the two of them uh with their songwriting

because you can tell when it's when it's one versus the other um i almost feel like iriks almost like the more like george harrison or the john linen of the group and erlin's more like paul mccartney yes absolutely did that's a good call all right let's start here uh like i said This is primarily Iric that you're going to be hearing here. But yeah, this song is called Angel. She didn't choose. Speechless. Mains of my suspicion.

Where did all there was go to where the wind blows. Angel. She's an age. I should I put it. Oh, she might be slightly. Their recordings are just so perfect, man. Yeah. You want to talk about music.

that you have to listen to with good headphones. You close your eyes and you are in that room with them. Absolutely. That's what I love about their music, dude. Yeah. That is definitely something worth talking about is the quality of the production. You know what I mean? Yeah.

So, dude, I actually read an interview with both of them, actually. But Erlin's the one who's speaking mostly throughout this. But I'll link to it somewhere. We don't really have notes anymore. on a website, but it's a great interview from under the radar mag or magazine.com. Yeah, so that's a big thing for them, even to the point that they will take however long until they feel comfortable with how the music sounds in a recording. They actually were going to drop this album.

They actually did start recording in 2016, dude, for this album. Oh, man. Okay. Yeah, so they had this plan back in front. 2015, they came back together, had some new songs. They thought it would be a cool idea to go on tour and workshop unfinished songs on tour and then come back and record it. That's exactly what they did before Declaration of Dependence. Yep. Because we used to, we found those old YouTube videos of them playing songs we had never heard before and that was like amazing. But then he says here,

the live experience is very different. You're playing an event. big hall with 500, maybe a thousand seats. Then you go into a small studio to try to record and it sounds very different. It wasn't easy to make amazing results. So it just sounded totally different to the point that they didn't even like what they were hearing. And I get that, dude. It sounds totally different when you're playing in a huge hall.

So, you know, they just weren't happy with it. Yeah, that's interesting because like there is something to be said about the recording space, you know, like not every studio is going to sound the same. I don't know if you've watched Cue that documentary about the studios in California called Sound City Studios. There's a documentary about it. Is that Dave Grohl the one that does that documentary? Yeah, and he, you know, the thing about Dave Grohl is he purchased like the soundboard

or something like that from the studio because it was closing down and he moved it into his home studio and brought in a bunch of art. who had previously recorded albums in that studio to record a, like a collaboration album, like Tom Petty, I think even McCartney shows up in there. But anyway, they're all talking, but basically they're all talking about how, like, there is something magical about this particular studio, like music sounds a certain way in this particular studio. So, like, yeah, if you're, to go back to Keynes of Convenience,

if they're saying that, like, they're workshopping these songs on tour or, like, just you know, between the two of them, and then they get into the recording booth, and it just sounds completely different. Yeah, and it feels different. Yeah. It's just not what they wanted. You can't recreate the magic, you know, you have to find a space where it can really, like, shine, you know?

Yeah. So they continued working on it through 2016, and then there are some personal problems between them. Erlin's mom died. Iric had some love problems, that's how I put it. Things just weren't going as planned. So they just got tired of the material and then more just, you know, life got in the way. Yeah.

So five years later, we finally have something that they could be happy with, you know, and something they were excited about sharing with their fans. And man, dude, I love that, this song. Yeah. And this song in particular, it sounds a lot like right on an empty street era, Kings of Convenience, or at least Iric. Like this sounds like a song that could have been on, riot on an empty street.

Although, like, collectively, I feel like their music has a very distinct, it's not like they change drastically from record to record. But Declaration of Dependents had a certain sound to it, I feel like. And right on an empty street has certain sound to it. And I feel like this song fits more on Riot than Declaration. But, yeah, one thing I wanted to talk about, since I just named a two record, the names of two of these records. There's a couple of themes, I feel like, that always come through with Kings of Convenience.

As far as like the names of the records and then something that appears on just about every record cover. It's always like this, these two like, almost like an oxymoron type thing, right? Like think about the names of the, all the records. Quiet is the new loud, right? We talked about that earlier. That's like, that's kind of like the dichotomy. Complete opposite. Yeah.

Riot on an empty street, right? You can't have a riot on an empty street. I mean, yeah, I guess it's got to start somewhere. And then declaration of dependence, right, instead of declaration of independence. And then finally, peace or love, right? Usually it's peace and love. And love. But they're basically saying you have to, it seems to me like you have to choose peace or love

because in love there isn't always peace, you know what I mean? Yeah. A lot of the music on this record is about both the joys and like the pain and stuff that comes with love. You know what I mean? That's what this record's about, basically. Yeah, a lot of their music is, you know, just about heartache and relationship troubles. Yeah, so we're not actually going to play this song, but this is, I think the lyrics in the track, Love is a Lonely Thing, which features Feist.

The way that it ends, you know, basically they're talking about, like the way that this song is structured, it's kind of like, talks about a sort of a rocky relationship, but like, you know, the trials and tribulations that comes with love. And it closes with like, love is pain and suffering. Love can be a lonely thing. Once you've known that magic, though, who can live without it? Ain't that the truth, man? But that's great. And I think that's kind of a theme of this record. So yeah, all right. Let's pick up where we left off here. Actually, we're going to jump to a new track. and you know unfortunately our next track

also features primarily IRIC so we could mix it up a little bit we like to play the tracks in order of the the record but maybe we could jump and play washing machine next yeah let's do that washing machine is a little bit more playful too

it's the Paul McCartney song on the record absolutely exactly all right so this is the very last track on the record can I just say dude I love their back and forth and they're harmonizing on this one just throwing that up there is it's great I love it and the lyrics are fond too. All right again this is called washing machine. Just count how many times I've tumble around inside your washing machine hung myself out to try to regain some of myself esteem.

Are you just a spoiled girl? I'm just a fool to think that you could. Do I'm more wise now than I was when I was 21? It's true I have less time now than I had when I was 21. I feel so wrong. Dude, their songs just feel so effortless. Yeah. You know?

And so going back to what I learned from this interview here, life just got in the way back in 2016 when they were trying to record it. So it just didn't happen. And that's something that I really appreciate about them. Like they're not going to go under a studio and say like, all right, we have to get this done. and we have to put it out, you know, at this certain time. They're going to take their time with it and make it sound right.

They're going to take their time. And there's a great quote here from Erland. He says, and this, dude, this sums up anytime I hear a Kings of a Convenient song, listen to one of their albums. Like this quote here, it just sums it up perfectly, dude. He says, music is supposed to be fun. It's supposed to be fun to be in a band. It's something you should envy.

Recording should sound easy. If it doesn't sound easy. easy, you have to wait until you have an easy feeling in your body. Yeah, that's perfect. Yeah, dude. So, like, with that quote, I'm thinking of, like, them in the studio in 2015 and 2016, just trying to get these songs out and recording it. And, you know, it probably just felt hard. It probably felt like more of a chore. So they said, you know, what's another five years? You know, let's, let's do this again when it just, when I, when we have like a good feeling. in our body. And that's, dude, and that's like them respecting their fans, too, you know.

They're not going to record, they're not going to put something out that they're not proud of. And they didn't have fun recording. And dude, and you can hear them having fun in these recordings. Yeah, absolutely. And that's, I think that's a key ingredient to what makes it so enjoyable to listen to these guys is that you can feel the fun that they're having. You know what I mean? Yeah, you can feel the relationship that they have with each other as friends, you know, long time. friends and musicians that have been planned together for decades. Absolutely. One more thing I wanted to point out about the record covers Q because I noticed it and I went

back and looked back at the last three records at least. It didn't happen on the first record. But there is a chessboard on every record. Oh, shit, dude. And it's so obvious when you look, well, actually, they kind of make it hard to see on Declaration of Dependents. but right there they're playing chess. They're playing chess here.

There's a chess board there. And then obviously very prominently, they're playing chess. So not on quiet, though. You can't see them. Not on quiet. I looked. I even looked on the back cover of it to see. So they decided to throw in a chess board.

And maybe that's just the way that maybe they view their dynamic. I don't know. Because I'm trying to think for like themes or maybe it's just like. Yeah. Maybe it's the idea of like these dichotomies that they sing about, like peace love, decoration or dependence. It's like a chess game. I don't know.

I'm looking for meaning and stuff. but like it's obvious they're doing it for a reason right i mean that's not a coincidence obviously and then dude get this man something i noticed on the cover of right on an empty street aaronland oya has no shoes on and he's got brown socks he's got no shoes on with brown socks on this new record again dude not a coincidence dude you're really digging deep are you gonna get one of these records and spin it backwards and see if there's any messages on it maybe Maybe. You should.

But I don't know what that's supposed to mean. But it's cool. It's cool to think that they, that they're pointing back to their old record, their old album covers. And maybe they just like playing chess together. Maybe that's just something they've done since they were kids. And they just thought it'd be cool to, you know, once they decided to put a chessboard in declaration of dependence, they're probably like, yeah, we got to, let's just keep doing it.

Yeah. Right. I really like this album cover. The new one's really cool. It is really cool. very minimal. The bird's eye view looking straight down at them. It's, dude, I mean, I'm looking, it's so obvious now.

Yun and Yang, my friend. Look at it. The way their legs are out. Yeah, dude, peace or love. Hello, peace sign. Oh, my. Dude, amazing. Anyway, let's take a quick break.

All right, let's move along here. So we have another track here. We got two more tracks for you. We're going to end with the banger, dude. We're going to end with Catholic Country, featuring Feist, but not yet. If you're a fan of Feist, you're going to love this track. I think it's hard to not like Feist. That's true.

Seriously. Who doesn't like Feist? She's always great. What's next, brother? All right, we're going to play track 7. It's called Killers. And this is another very intimate Iric song. And, man, this is a great.

I'm going to use the word now, Q. Hypnagogic pop. Definitely not hypnagogic. Although... Are you going to say haunting? Yeah, I was going to say haunting. This is a very haunting song. If it's not haunting, it's hypnagogic pop.

Yeah. You know, like, as far as the buzzwords on this podcast, yeah, dude. And I agree. It's haunting. It is. It really is. All right, here we go. This is called killers.

Killers. Won't you come here and kill some time? I've been sentenced to wait here for often days. Till when maybe she will That you made up to hide your crime Tell myself you will come In a more you should Be inside your hearts

And the freedom That gives To the dire My play My part is only one of two Not up to me It depends on what she will choose That might be

My favorite Iric song Dude Going all the way back to 2001 Yeah this beautiful Beautiful. It really is. You can hear the quivering in his voice. This is a really powerful song for him. You know, you can feel it.

Yeah, I mean, listen to some of these lyrics, man. It's talking about killers. Won't you come here and kill some time? I've been sentenced to wait here for hours and days till when maybe she will be mine. The lies that you made up to hide your crime. I could have just sung, tell myself you would come in a more reassuring tone.

So there you go, dude. He's being played like the fiddle that they sometimes feature in their songs, Q. Oh, man, the way that he closes the song, too, we didn't get to hear it, but it's just worth mentioning, obviously, you've got to listen to an entire track and you got to listen to the entire album, because sometimes they will close a song with something really different and special. They'll have a line that they close on.

in a way that really like ties it all together and it has like a gut punch. This song has one of those moments where it just ends on this like beautiful like clothes, you know. But anyway, beautiful song. He's such a great singer. His song structures are just something else, dude. His voice, man. His voice too gets me every time.

I can't remember exactly. I'll never find the interview again. But when we featured Rocky Trail, we quoted. Erlind saying something along the lines of, and he was referencing Rocky Trail. You know, it's just another great Iric track that, you know, it's a pop song, but the way it's structured is just slightly different than the usual song structure. He is such a phenomenal songwriter, dude. Yeah.

I know that he has a side project that he did, but I don't know if, I mean, if he has, I've never stumbled upon it. if he's put anything out solo you know i mean airland has his has his fingers on a lot of stuff like he's got solo stuff he's done he produces records he has widest boy live right but i don't think i rick ever puts himself out there but uh anyway all right cue we're going to close it with probably one of the best songs on the record and this song features feist and let's just play it this is called catholic country in the Catholic country

Got my back on the carpet And my feet through the ceiling To get the blood flowing The number pain I'm feeling She took me In regard Monions On a Kirby roll

I sing I started to believing The bubble I've been dreaming Had a floor on a ceiling Fun, dude So you can just hear their enjoyment in coming together and recording a song. You just feel the love, dude. And Feist is always amazing, man. It's such a perfect match. Feist and these two guys,

you know what I mean? Yep. It's perfect, you know. And, you know, there's things that happen in this song. I don't think we heard a piano in any of the other tracks, but... This one's definitely more lively. Yeah. So there's a piano that kind of jumps in every once in a while and that's kind of a, again, kind of a throwback to Riot. I don't know if they did pianos in Declaration, but I know they had pianos in Riot on an empty street. So, and Feist coming back. I don't know if Feist is on that piano. Maybe that's what it is. But, um, Oh, yeah, maybe. You know what I mean? But anyway, another great, great lyrics again, like, I don't remember, do you remember this quote cube? But, um, they were talking about why they write

their songs, uh, in English. Because, you know, they're from Norway. I think they said something along the lines of, like, they can express their feelings a little bit easier with the English language. Yeah, it's simpler. Like there's some things that kind of lost in the Norwegian language, something like that. Yeah. That might be off. But hey, just go back and listen to our previous episodes on Kings because we quote them properly on that. True.

And I think we even play some clips of them talking to an audience or something like that. I remember we played some clips from a live show. believe. But yeah, go back and listen to those episodes. And actually hop on to our Twitter account. We've got direct links to those episodes. Yeah. Can you tell that we're just two huge Kings of Convenience fans? I feel like this might be a bore for people that aren't as intimate with them as we are. I'm going to go back to Fleet Foxes because they are one of the only other bands that does this to me. Yeah. But I do feel like an intimate connection with their music.

Yeah. And that goes for Robin Pecknell, you know, Fleet Foxes as well. And maybe that's just like, you know, when we were introduced to these guys, we were in high school, you know. I think the first time we heard their music was in Mexico, oddly enough. Yeah. It was on like MTV 2 or something like that. And it was the music video for Misread, which was on Ride Out on Empty Street. I remember, I can see it in my head.

dude. Yeah, I know the video too. I remember watching it on the TV. Yeah. Yeah. What a great song, too. So right on an empty street was our introduction to Kings of Convenience. So, Travis, something I just read from this interview that, you know, I would have never in a million years guessed this.

But, and I can't believe I'm going to reference Peknold again. But same thing happened with Robin. over the years when he goes back and listens to Fleet Fox's self-titled. It's basically unlistenable to him. He doesn't like the way it was recorded. Same goes for Riot with Ireland. Really? Yeah.

So he says here, I love that. Riot on an empty street was a rushed record. And I think you can hear it quite well in the mastering of the record. That's something else, dude, because I've always thought that this record sounded amazing. I guess that just speaks to my ignorance then. Well, here's, I'm going to keep reading here.

This is interesting. He says, that might be hard to understand the mastering or mixing, but mastering or mixing, but it really changed in that last week when we heard, oh, we just have to get it mastered. So they felt rushed. It completely changed character. He says, that's also why I think that album is very popular and did very well because it was very pushed.

But when I listen now, I find it hard to listen to. I know it sounds a lot softer than that. The breathing of the compression is pretty crazy. So, let me... So these guys are perfectionist, like we said. Yeah, so let me read on here, because this kind of ties it all back, dude. He says, so on Declaration of Dependence, we took a bit more time and the end result is much better.

That recording sounds very good, I think, but it just depends. I love this part here, dude. Which ears are you using? I'm using the ears of someone who is consciously deciding to listen to music in their home. If you're talking about radio or being played in cafes, the other version could really work. Yeah.

So he's saying Riot did really well, and it's really popular because... Because it was rushed by the label? No, because if it's going to be a song that's played on the radio or just played in a cafe, doesn't really matter if the mastering and mixing wasn't to your liking. Right. But for someone, and we're the same kind of people, Trave,

we have ears of someone who is deciding consciously to sit down and listen to music in our home. Yeah. But the thing is, I do think, right, it sounds great. But Erland knew how it sounded before they had to rush at the end and master it. And so he's saying that it sounded a lot softer. before they had to rush to finish the master exit. So he, yeah. So it kind of got lost in the way that it was compressed and mastered.

Well, I will say when you, when you pull up Declaration of Dependence and hit play, track one sounds amazing. And that's 24, 25. Oh, man, it sounds great. But let me tell you, what I heard from that was that it was rushed by their label. If they're like, all right, we just got to get this mastered. And it feels to me like, especially when Riot came out, probably a lot of record labels were trying to put out records like this because there was a

sudden interest again in this kind of folky stuff. So that's interesting. And like they said, this was probably their most popular record to date. And that's probably because of the time that it came out. People wanted this kind of stuff again, or for the first time or in a while at least. And then that maybe is why it was rushed, you know. I don't think we're ever going to hear another recording from these guys that they're not as much in love with the way it sounds as, you know, someone who's consciously listening to it. Good. Like, I don't think he's ever going to be disappointed again.

They're going to make sure of it. Yeah, and like we said earlier, we had to wait 12 years for this record. But that's, you know, that's good. I'll wait however long they need to get it perfect in their minds. You know what I mean? Yeah. So I've actually, dude, I got one last quote that kind of wraps it up nicely. when it comes to certain bands releasing records that don't sound that great.

Basically, Ayrlin's saying, we're never going to do this to our fans. He says, certain bands, and I won't name names, would put out records that weren't good and that caused me to lose my faith in the band. It's serious if you, at some point, get really disappointed. For example, there are bands who are on very bad record deals, and they do a record just to get out of the deal. Strokes. He says, you can't do that because as a fan, I don't know that.

I'm just listening to a bad record. So that's interesting, man. They're just like, well, we only have one more record to do in this contract. Let's just knock out of, you know, just knock it out. Get out of the record deal. I don't care if it's shitty. We need to get out of this contract. Yeah.

I feel like that's what I'm on the strokes, man. Yeah. It wasn't there a lot of, there was a lot of, a lot to be. be said around their last record and all the imagery and stuff. Remember, it had the RCA logo very prominent. Like they were kind of, I think they had a lot of digs like that at the label. Right. You know what I mean? So anyway. So yeah, I like that. Errolins just saying, like, you know, as a fan, you don't necessarily know the reasons why a record from one of your favorite bands is terrible. If it's going to take another five years, you know, because they started doing this,

this process back in 2016 for peace or love. If it's going to take another five years, that's okay because, you know, we want to release a record and record when it's fun and when it's when it feels easy. And that's when you're going to get these awesome songs, you know. I love it. Dude, I'll wait another 12 years, man. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. And you know these guys are going to put out more. I have faith that these guys will, make music together for as long as they can. You know what I mean? And that just fills me all sorts of like joy, dude, to know that I'm going to be, I'm going to be enjoying music from these guys, again, somewhere down the road, you know what I mean? And it's going to be just as

amazing when I hit play as it was, you know, maybe a month or two ago when we heard Rocky Trail. You know what I mean? Yeah. But these guys are something else, man. Yeah. So I recommend for, you know, so for people that aren't as intimate with this band as we are, I think it is worth going to find one of those full discography playlists. Now, I will say there is a remix record that they released in 2001.

That's not going to be a representation of how their music sounds. So if you can find a playlist with all of their albums minus the remix album, give it a shuffle. Their music just, I don't, you know,

if it's been 20 years, if it's been five between recordings and between songs, I think, all their music together is just, it's worth listening to, even if it's shuffled through their whole career. Well, yeah, and it's worth noting Que that their first record came out in 2001. So it's a 20-year... It's been 20 years, yeah.

...relationship that they've had as far as... Actually, they've known each other for longer than that. But, I mean, there are Kings of Convenience, that name, and them putting out music together as Kings of Convenience has been happening for 20 years, which is great. Yeah, that's cool. Nothing but love for these boys. Yeah. Just so happy to hear new music from them.

Yeah. Again, it's a stop everything you're doing and push play whenever they put out something new. And by the day, I mean, anything would they do? Actually, you know what? We didn't even talk about this, Q. We, I mean, I guess you would call it Ireland, right? And one of the other members of White S Boy Alive

put out that live record last year that we talked about a little bit. Oh, yeah, the quarantine at Algonza. That's right. That's right. Yeah. So you may have heard something from them and didn't realize that if you didn't remember the name Ireland being tied to that record. So yeah. If you're a fan of these guys like we are, it's been a pretty good year last year and this year as far as like being able to hear new music from them.

Because we heard a new Writerspoor Live single. We had a live record from Ireland and now we have a new Keynes of Convenience record. So now I'm just going to wait for the full length White Dispoor Live to release because they must. You know, that's going to be so great, man. That's what they got together to do is record. And that's when the lockdowns happened. They got stuck at Elgonza. Yeah, not all the band members showed up.

So they just decided to, you know. What a magical musical moment. Right, exactly. That's, I think, how we framed it. Yeah. Magical moments in music. That's how we ended each episode of our 2020 countdown last year. But anyway, so that's that.

That's our look at peace. love the brand new Kings of Convenience Record. It's pretty brand spanking new, dude. I think it came out last week, at least at the time of this recording. So typically we don't do brand new records that are hot off the presses like this one, dude. And isn't that funny, dude, with all the times that I've mentioned Fleet Foxes, that's the only other band that we've covered a brand new album on. And that was when they dropped Shore last year.

What a great record. Yeah. Again, I think that's the last time we did it was for Fleet Foxes. Yeah. Yeah, there are certain bands that we'll probably do this for where we immediately cover a brand new record from them. Hopefully we don't get shut down for playing somewhat lengthy clips of these new tracks. But you know what? I feel like Allen and Iric would understand, you know, whereas apparently Kevin Parker from Damon Pollitt did not.

It was not him, dude. I promise you that. It was Spotify. Yeah, yeah, nothing to do with it. The Australian branch of whatever, I forgot what record label it was. But yeah, water under the bridge. Exactly. It's only taken down on Spotify, dude.

No one knows what we're talking about. I thought we talked about it a little bit. We did. Anyway, so yeah, that's it. Next week, have we talked about what we're doing next week? Because you want to talk about a 180? That's going to be a 180. Yeah.

But this was, hey, you know what? Let's give another shout out to Ronnie, because this was her idea for our next episode. Stroke of genius, dude. And Ronnie's our new Twitter, social media guru. She just joined the pod. She's one of our dear listeners, and she's kind of helping us out with the social media stuff.

And we were going through our episode ideas for the next few weeks. And we realized that next week's episode is, if you don't count the episode zero, our 182nd episode. And we have yet to cover Blinkwain 82's self-titled record. All three of our favorites, I believe she said it was her favorite as well. Blink record. So let's do it, dude. It's the perfect time. Yeah.

I mean, you want to talk about perfect timing, dude. Episode 182. What better band to talk about? And honestly, dude, I just, and I want to say this right now, I just want to, you know, push out good vibes and love for Mark because he's battling cancer. Did you know that? Yes, I did read that, yeah. I don't think he gave specifics on the type of cancer, but he started

chemo. So yeah, all the love to him, man. We hope he pulls through all that. Yeah, and this is our way to do it. Let's give Blink some love and let's talk about our favorite record from the boys. Yeah, absolutely. So that's next week. That's going to be a blast, dude. What an album. I haven't listened to it in a really long time, but man, there's a lot of great stuff. You want to talk about perhaps, I mean, we can look into this, but that could be an example of a band that had a contract with the label and that's why they kept putting out music or they just needed to make more money at some point because there had been a long time between the self-titled and whatever one came out after that. Well, and from what we learned about Boxcar Racer and this kind of stuff that was going on within the group around that time,

yeah, there's a lot of stuff. They're, yeah. Who knows, dude? We're going to find out. Let's do some research. Because that is a huge departure from their first two records as far as sound goes. like it's like blink 182 grew up and released the self-titled yeah yeah and you know I'm probably not the only blink fan who wishes that that's what they ended on because I haven't really been a fan

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Well, we got an outro lined up, so I'm going to tee this puppy up, dude. That's true. We have a killer outro. Key, what are we doing? We mentioned there's a remix album that Kigs of Convenience released way back in 2001, so 20 years ago, called Verses. And it's nothing but songs from Quiet is the new Loud, except for there is one collaboration on here.

So it's an original song for the VIII. versus album. It's called gold for the price of silver. I believe it's mainly Iric. And it's a collaboration with an artist called E-R-R-O-T. I don't know how to say it. It's one word, E-R-O-T. I can't find anything on this artist, dude. I don't know if it's the, if this person provided the music, you know, like the instrumentation or what, but not a lot of info on this artist that they collaborated with, but really great song, probably my favorite, I mean, other than the remixes, you know, it's a great Kings of Convenience song. So we're going to fade us out with that one. So this is, we're going back 20 years here. Just another solid Kings of Convenience track. And that's going to close us out.

Next week, we'll be shouting at you with some Blink 182 and they're self-titled. Thank you, as always, for listening. My name's Quentin. My name is Travis. Y'all take care. Unwrap holiday magic at Holt Renfrew with gifts that say I know you. From festive and cozy fashion to lux beauty and fragrance sets, our special selection has something for every style and price point. Visit our Holt's holiday shop and store or online at Holtrenfrew.com.