No Filler Music Podcast - Space Age Dream Pop: The Music of Sweet Trip

Episode Date: November 28, 2022

At the start of the new millenium, Sweet Trip took the dream pop and shoegaze formula of the 90s and brought it into the digital age with their ever-evolving sound and constant experimentation. In 2003, Velocity: Design: Comfort. blended classic elements of dream pop and shoegaze with glitch pop, IDM, and techno to create a genre-defying sound and push dream pop into brand new territories. Six years later on You Will Never Know Why, they changed their sound yet again, this time with more "raw and bare and simple", striped-down guitar-driven indie tracks that paved that way for dream pop's next big wave. Tracklist Darkness Pro: Lov: Ad Chocolate Matter Conservation of Two To the Moon Palomar, Your Shadow Is the Yellow Sun This show is part of the Pantheon Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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dedicated to sharing the often overlooked hidden gyms that fill the space between the singles on our favorite records. My name is Quentin. with me as always is my brother Travis. And today we are covering the Dream Pop Shugee's duo, Sweet Trip. And I don't know if we talked about this already, Traff, but, you know, we mentioned

kind of switching gears and diving into like proper new wave, like 80s new wave to kick off 2023. I feel like we might need to take a detour now, dude, and maybe cover the same thing. Sound carriers, maybe cover Stereo Lab. Sweet Trip gets me in that vibe, dude. This is a, yeah, I think that's a good, good call because some of this music does sort of flirt with that. Space Age Bachelor Pad music kind of loungey kind of stuff. Flirts with it, not like sound carriers and stereo lap, but, you know, they kind of touch on it.

Yeah, dude, stereo lab, we have to do them at some point. And we have to talk about that record that I kind of became obsessed with the first time I stumbled upon it. It's got a weird name. Actually, no, it's got an easy to remember name. The other one has a weird name. Dots and Loops came out in 1987. So yeah, that's a good call, dude. I think that's good.

Maybe we kick off the year with those two bands. We absolutely should, dude, because I will go to town with some sound. carriers, man. 80's new wave, it'll always be there for us, too. Always. But while we're in this pocket, I think you're, I think you're right, dude. That's a good, good call. So yeah, as you stated, we're talking about sweet trip today. And as, you know, I feel like we've said this a lot lately. This is not the first time this band has appeared on this podcast. In fact, I think I brought them maybe last year as one of my... It must have been at the best. best of the year.

Yeah, the year. Didn't they break up? They're done. Yeah, they're done. It's kind of like they seem like they're kind of off and on. Okay. This isn't the first time they've taken a hiatus, but they might be done. It sounded like they're more like done, done this time.

Yeah. Yeah, they got back together and made a record last year. It was called a tiny house in secret speeches, polar equals. knows the name of it. All right, well, real quick, dude, you need to go back to that Spotify. Go back one on Spotify. I need to see, make sure my eyes didn't deceive me. Screw that.

Webcore? The fuck is WebCore. Because apparently they show up on that radio station. Well, the, no, it's a public play. It's a Spotify playlist. I know, but WebCore? Like, I'm no, dude. I'm intrigued by the art there.

The description is, would you like to save before closing? Judging by the artists on here, I'm seeing some vaporwave. I'm seeing some, there's an apex time is on here. So it's probably like IDM kind of stuff. And what's funny is the one sweet trip song that's on here is one of the songs I'm playing today. So that's kind of, well, I am going to say, I'm saving that playlist, dude. I'm curious.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's another, yep, there's vapor waves. Yeah, this band Windows 96 or this guy. Crystal Castles. Yeah. So anyway. Crystal castles, man.

I've thought about them forever. Yep. Okay. So like you said, dream pop shoe gaze, they get lumped into that camp. Who doesn't get lumped into shoe gaze, dude? I've about had enough of it. Well, here's the thing. This group in particular puts their own spin on it by integrating glitchy kind of IDM elements to their music, which makes them stand out.

And basically what happened is, you see what had happened was they put out a record in, in 2003 that has slowly built up a cult following called velocity design comfort period has a period at the end of it well you left out the the colons dude you love you put the period there not the colons velocity colon design colon comfort period there we get you want the full thank you syntax and everything um this is not a visual medium chef you're right keep that in mind You're right. But as you'll see, because I'm going to play a couple tracks from this record. Before we play, originally what I wanted to do was talk strictly about their record that came out in 2009 called You Will Never Know Why.

And that's the only one I'm familiar with, Treve. Yeah. I played a song from this record on What You Heard years ago, which is kind of crazy that we can say years ago, since this podcast has been around. Several years now. For so long, yeah. but that song the intro to us in was called Darkness and that was from this record and you're going to hear a huge difference

and that's what's kind of interesting about these guys. They're also considered an experimental band and I think that's pretty clear with just the like the ride or the variety in their sound and their approach

the way that they kind of play around with like I said glitchy kind of stuff drum and bass kind of stuff sometimes it's really interesting. And then when they put out their next record in 2009, and we're going to play a couple tracks from that record, they took a huge left turn. And a lot of their fans were kind of like disappointed, I guess.

But they also, you know, garnered more attention from this other group of people that liked the kind of music that they put out on this next record. So anyway, they're very, very interesting group. So let me name off the roster. It's primarily a duo. It's Roberto Burgos and Valerie Cooper. And, you know, they have some other, you know, players that kind of come in and out.

And I'll name them as well. Viet Li, Aaron Porter, and Rob Utinkko. Didn't say that right for sure. But, yeah, so let's just jump into it, dude. So they formed in 1993 in California. and it was originally just the two, the main players, Valerie and Roberto. And I have a quote here, and it's pretty long. I'm going to read the whole thing.

But I think this is really interesting. Because I think this probably explains a lot of groups that formed around that time, like how they approached music. So he said, this is Robbie talking. So this is, I guess he goes by Robbie, but Roberto. And he says, in the 90s, there was the whole grunge thing and shoegaze was a big part of the stuff we were listening to. Britpop was also a big thing we were exposed to. During that time, there were a lot of bands we were friends with, including ourselves, who were more or less

imitating the bands we were listening to like My Bloody Valentine, Blur, Lush, Slow Dive, all of those. There was a lot of that. We started pretty heavily copying what a lot of our influences and our friends' bands were doing as you do as a beginner musician. in a way it made us hone our craft. At the same time, I think it was pretty funny that we were trying so hard to sound like the people that we liked to the point where when we were kind of letting the British accent into our singing.

It was really ridiculous. That's just a small picture of how obsessive the scene was and how much we were kind of caught up in that to some extent. So basically he was saying, because there was so much pressure to sound like these bands, and that's the bands that they were trying to imitate and stuff like that. they started to put maybe subconsciously or not like a British accent into their singing style so that they could sound like blur or whatever or like, you know, Oasis, you know.

Yeah, so that's funny. That it was so a part of everything about the music scene in the 90s. It's like, it just, that's what you were trying to do, you know. And that's why I appreciate these guys so much because by the time that that record came out in 2003, Velocity Design Comfort, they had figured out a way to kind of make themselves different. And I think they were sort of leading the way into the indie rock stuff, the dream pop stuff that you and I became so familiar with in the 2010s. Like I think these guys were kind of the stepping stone from 90 shoegays to more of the 2010s

dream pop stuff. And you'll hear that for sure between these two records that we're going to play some music from. So, anyway, let's jump right into our first track here because I think I've teed it up nicely here. And again, think about all the stuff you know about 90s shoegays, the sound, right? You're not going to hear any of that in this song. But there's still that dream pop vocal sound. It's still there. All right.

So this song is called Pro Love A.D. That sounds nothing like you will never know why, dude. Except for the vocals, yeah. Yeah. Now, once again, man, I was, I can't remember who we brought this up that they reminded us of. But Cock and Swan, again, big time. Yeah, and that's the glitchy stuff, right? Yeah, and her voice, too.

Yeah. And her voice. Yep. Probably big, I'm guessing this record was a big influence on Cock and Swan. Well, I love it, man. And this album came out in 2003. Is that right? 2003, yep.

So like I was saying, right, there's not a hint of shoegaze in that song whatsoever, right? The vocals are the only thing that you can point to that's dream pop, right? Dream pop. Right. But the drums are big time, like drum and bass style drums, right? Dude, and this was around the time that like Death Cab and Postal Service and those groups were getting big. big. Well, I mean, early 2000s was also the strokes, strokes were right. Yeah. Rod Rock was was peaking. You know what I mean? Right. Right.

2003 was room on fire, I believe. 2001 was is this it, right? So the strokes were already, you know, at the top of their their mountain at that point or whatever. Totally. But yeah. So like right around the corner was the 2010s. Well, not right around the corner, but by the time we get to this next record, it's right around the corner. all the indie pop stuff indie rock stuff arcade fire you know the yeah yeah yeah's you know and then of course the washed outs and the beach houses and stuff like that with you know the next iteration of dream pop oh right around the corner yeah right around the corner by the time we hit the 2009 this next record that we're going to talk about i got one more track from from this more glitchy style but you're going to see such a dramatic shift and there's a reason why they wanted to change their sound and i'll talk about that later, but I just, yeah, I really like that drum and bass stuff. And,

um, their, the record label, Darla records had a compilation, uh, called Drum and Bliss. What a great playing on words, right? Instead of drum and bass, drum and bliss, right? Yeah, dude, that should be the name of a genre. No kidding, dude. I mean, this is what it would sound like, right? We don't need no webcore bullshit. They could be the poster child for Drum and Bliss, this song, right? This style where it's just glitchy, kind of drum and bass mixed with dream pop kind of dream scapey kind of stuff. Anyway, so let me jump to the next track here because I think this next song is where you're going to hear the more classic kind of My Bloody Valentine style shoe gazee guitar, which is cool

because like they said, when they reformed in the 90s, that is the sound that they were going after, just like everybody else in the circles they were in. And like he said, like it kind of forced you to hone your craft and stuff. yeah, if you're going to try to sound like my bloody valentine, you're going to have to learn the glide guitar sound. You know what I mean? Or at least your best approximation of it.

And, you know, you'll definitely hear that in this next song here. So here we go. This song, again, off of 2003's Velocity Design Comfort, this song is called Chocolate Matter. That distortion,

and then, yeah, and it's got that kind of 60s, like you said, bachelor pad space rocket vibes space bachelor pad space age bachelor pad music which is the name of a stereo lab record by the way I think that's where the term is coined or the term kind of comes from but anyway

yeah that's the wall of sound right there it is at least their version of the wall of sound right that's not exactly the Kevin Shields glide guitar sound you know, verbatim, but I mean, it's close enough, right? Compared to the drum and bassiness of the previous track. I mean, that shows you how experimental they are just between two tracks on the same record, right?

Because that sounded a little bit more traditional kind of song structure, right? And the drums are not, you know, glitchy webcore. Right, no glitchy, no glitchiness. So, yeah. And that takes us right into this next record. So they were on hiatus basically after this record. And while they were on hiatus, this record, velocity, design, comfort started to garner an online cold following, which led to, you know, increased interest in the band and re-releases of their previous stuff with people reaching out to interview them. And basically that's what he credits that with sort of reconnecting them and, you know, having the band reform, basically.

So because they were reconnected through interviews and stuff, you know, people were interested in them, wanted to talk to them. You know, they sort of reunited and put out this record in 2009, which is called You Will Never Know Why. So here's what's interesting about this record. You might think that this is an entirely different band when you hear some of these songs. And that's because basically when they got back together and started doing practice sessions again. they just played with the guitar alone, right? And they decided that that more raw and bare and simple, as they put it, songs, would be the focus for the next record.

So basically, they just liked, you know, the way that these practice sessions were going. They wanted to step away from all the glitchiness and the synthy, like, you know, overreliance on that kind of stuff and just focused on more straightforward, first chorus structured songs and that the sound that they had perfected on velocity design and comfort just doesn't lend itself to these new songs that they're writing. So that's why. And this is also six years later. So like again, like the garage rock stuff, you know, had had its had its heyday and kind of came and went. I mean, hey, these guys are probably listening to all this stuff and sort of, you know, wanting to sound more like these more modern bands, right? They formed the

the 90s and we're trying to sound like all the bands that were the grunge and shoegaze bands of the 90s makes sense that they would maybe approach their songs more like the bands that were popular in the 2000s, right? Yeah, totally. The more guitar forward type of stuff. So anyway, here's a quote because I think this teased it up nicely from Pop Matters, which is a website, describing this record, they said, synths and electronic programming take a backseat to airy guitars, slippery bass, and reliable drumming, which is a funny way to be like, not drum and bass.

You know, drum and bass is very like sporadic, right? Mirroring somewhat the intersection of indie pop and space age bachelor pad music of the mid-1990s. So there's that term again. Anyway, also, I wanted to say, because I think you also kind of hear it on some of these songs, too, but that last track that we played, I was getting some like swirlies. Oh, yeah. How can you forget that album? We did a whole episode on that record.

They spent their wild, youthful days in the glittering world of the salons. Definitely had that kind of guitar style. And I think it's sort of that sound, you'll hear a little bit more on these next two tracks that we're going to play. But I think they strip away any fuzz. Like they ditch the fuzz for a more clean style guitar on this Ness record. Man, well, I really liked that sound from Velocet. design comfort, dude. I'm going to have to jump into that.

So that sound kind of came and went with him, huh? Well, they just, yeah, they started experimenting with a different style. So it's kind of like two different bands. Yeah. So, yeah, we'll see. We'll see if you're like some of their fans that decided they didn't like this new style. Or you might be like me and be like, hey, you know what? I have room for both in my life.

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very first track off of this record. And you may recognize it if you've been a long time no filler listener because this is the track I brought to what you heard years ago. But it's a great song and it's barely three minutes long. So I'm going to let the whole thing play out. This song is called Conservation of Two. Again, off of Sweet Trips, 2009 record, you will ever know why. That's great, man. I will always be down for some space age dream pop. Compared to the last two tracks that we played, pretty different, right?

Yeah, I feel like they're kicking up the harmonies with each other. And, yeah, just kind of honing in on that, like, 60s sound. You know, it's very much like sound carriers. And, you know, it's what I love about sound carriers. Man, when that sound is done right, dude, it's just so great. Yeah, and there's some, like, you know, the guitar has some, like, punch to it, too. You know, it's a very clean guitar tone. But, you know, that sort of, like, has got that bite to it as well, which kind of reminds me of, you know,

some of the early strokes stuff or Interpol, just less fuzz in the distortion. Less math rocky as well. Yeah, I guess so. But, I mean, like, yeah. And the drums and the bass, too. Let's give them some credit here. So at least on their record, they brought in Aaron Porter on bass and Rob Utinkko on drums, who I budgeted his name before, butcheted it again that time.

But yeah, so, you know, in studio they had an actual bass player, an actual drummer. And yeah, it's just at that point, you've just got your traditional four-piece rock band right there, right? obviously Robbie and Valerie on vocals, guitars, synthesizers, but yeah, you didn't really hear many synthesizers there, right? I think the guitar was pretty straightforward, and that's one thing that Roberto sort of focused on during the hiatus was like he wanted to hone his guitar playing and sort of get that down, right? The guitar is very prominent in this record, too. Compared to the glitchiness and like the experimentalness of the previous record, sound is way more subdued,

way more laid back, as they even said, you know, raw and bare and simple. Like, that's just kind of the kind of songs they were writing. And so it's a huge 180

from their previous record. And some people just didn't like it. Well, so what's your favorite album from these three? What's your favorite? Like, what's your favorite sweet trip sound?

I mean, I have to confess, I haven't really sat down with philosophy, design, and comfort and hit play from track one through the end. I was doing research

for this episode and decided to play some of this record because of how different it was. Because I feel like you have to hear this sound to appreciate what happened on you never know why or you will never know why because it's part of their story, like part of their sound, right? But honestly, my guess is I'm going to probably lean toward velocity design and comfort. Because I think it combines a lot of the types of music that I, because I love drum and bass and I love IDM and I love dream pop and I love shoe guys. So like, that's probably why this record has a cult following too because it's this interesting mashup of all of those sounds, right?

But I really like what they did with You Will Never Know Why as well because I like that laid back more straightforward guitar driven, clean kind of dream pop songs. Because that's what a lot of the stuff in the 2010s was more the straightforward kind of dream pop stuff. right, where you step away from the wall of sound. Yeah, and I bet that that album is the one that they had the most influence with on other bands, you know? Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying. You know, this was 2009, right?

So the next wave of Dream pop with bands like Beach House and stuff like that was right around the quarter. Right. Because Teen Dream came out the next year, dude. You know, so Beach House had their self-titled and devotion. but then Teen Dream, the one that kind of put them on the map. Yeah, that's when they blew up. You can't ignore that. Yeah.

Anyway, so let's play the next track here, and this one's going to be a little bit more, a little bit more poppy. And, man, I love this guitar sound too. Here we go. Here's the next track. This song is called To the Moon. Great hooks, great riff. I like that fuzzy synth that they kind of brought in towards the end there.

Yeah. All right. I'm going to say, this cue i'm going to see where your initial reaction is why this boy alive oh now we're gonna we're gonna have to do a white as boy laugh episode right i mean with the clean that clean guitar sound now obviously white's boy alive what made them great it's like the disco-ness disco-discoy right if that's a word very heavy on the disco that's what made them so cool a dancey it was more dancing yeah dude man i've been I've revisited both those albums recently and it's just so great dude such fun records we got

January figured out then we're gonna do we're gonna do uh sound carriers stereo lab why to spoil live and then our what you heard for January 2023 nice then we'll go into some new wave unless we get sidetracked yeah we'll get sidetracked again because that's what always happens but but yeah you want to talk about a band that has been on the radar since we decided decided to do a podcast together was wide as boy. I know. That's one of those bands that we always, you know, we knew someday we'd be doing an episode of them.

Yeah, what we should do is play a little bit from both of their records. Absolutely. Do a nice little, you know, sampling. Absolutely. Smattering. But yeah, man, like I said, that's just a perfect, straightforward dream pop indie rock song right there. And I think that, to me, leans itself more toward some of the, the good Raj Rock stuff of the early 2000s, you know. The drumming is like just that. I love the

drums, dude. The drums are great. Shout out to Rob Oitingo. If I say it enough times in different ways, I'll pronounce his name right at least once. But Rob Otingo and Aaron Porter on bass, you've got to give them credit. Because they brought a lot to this record because they were writing these more straightforward songs, because they were stepping away from the glitchy drum and bass sound, so they needed some legit, legit drummer, legit bass player. And these guys, I think, definitely helped shape that sound, right?

Yeah, absolutely. So anyway, I don't got nothing else to talk about, dude. That's all I have for us. Nice. Short and sweet. So the record was re-released in 2021. I will say that. And the funny thing is,

if you look at the record, the artwork, it's this very simple line art of a razor blade. And apparently, The funny thing about that, I'm going to read the story here, Q. The original cover was drawn by the bass player on the record, Aaron Porter. Burgos and Cooper, the main duo, we're not sure what to do for the artwork. And eventually Porter just drew that razor thing after much indecision.

And the band was like, all right, we'll just go with that. But, you know, they were never really fans of the artwork, nor the association with, like, razors and self-harmine. and stuff like that, right? So when they re-released it in 2021, they put out this new cover art that actually sort of aligned with this comic book that they put out with the record, which is really interesting. It's a comic book about a vampire that flies through Valerie's window and bites her and turns her into a vampire, which sounds like some, some Twilight stuff, right? Yeah. And then took her razor. He then places the razor in a case, also containing a razor with Burgos' name on it,

implying the same and happened to him. The comic ends with Burgos and Cooper happily dancing together, both now vampires. So that's a little bit strange. It's a little bit. But apparently people were so upset when they bought the re-release, they were expecting the razor artwork, and they got this weird vampire comic artwork. that the record label then pressed him again with the original Razor artwork. So it's kind of funny. I mean, my guess is that that actually could make the artwork. You know, if you actually have a copy

of the artwork with the vampires on it, it could be worth some more money. It could be more valuable, you know, because it was a limited pressing. Anyway, so fun facts to close us out. So anyway, go listen to both of those records because I think, you know, and what this has proven, is just how versatile these guys are. If you listen to their their 2021 record, it's a little bit of both. So like that that sound, you know, that experimentation, the glitchiness, the scentiness, is there again, like in their return, you know, because that was even more of a hiatus. That was like a 12-year hiatus.

And then they're also bringing back that dream pop kind of sound. I mean, these guys are a dream pop band at the end of the day. And I think that vocal work that you hear, like the very light breath. the kind of vocals that they, the both of them have, uh, lends itself to that dreaminess, you know,

and yeah, and they'll just kind of do a little bit of everything, you know, behind that, right? So anyway, so that's sweet trip. Love it.

Love it. And we are coming up, Q, next week will be the first episode of our best of 2022 batch of episodes. So get your first five picks ready to go, Q. because that's coming next week. Man,

so that's going to be fun. I got to do some thinking, dude. Me too. That's to do some thinking. Me too. It's hard, especially when you got to figure out, because we,

you know, we try to, I think we try to bring these in somewhat of an order, right? As in like, our last episode of the year should be our top five,

right? So, at least for me, I want my last five to actually be the true top five. The other 15 songs that I bring the previous weeks can kind of be in whatever order they end up being in, right? But I want to at least have like my best for last, right? And that's always tough because there's a lot of shuffling, a lot of shuffling that happens to try to figure out who gets the top billing, you know.

But yeah, I've listened to a lot of new, a lot of new stuff this year, man. A lot of good stuff out there. So it's going to be hard to narrow it down. But we'll start that next week. So, yeah, the rest of the year, just a bunch of tunes, man, you know. And that's what I love about it. We just closed out the year. We're just listening to all of our favorite tracks from this year.

So yeah, join us next week for that as we stroll into December. All right, well, that'll do it for this episode. Follow us on Instagram. Just look for no filler. I deleted Twitter off my phone, the other day, Q, by the way. So, not that that really means anything because we were never on, we never really kept that up to date anyway, but. But you deleted your personal one.

I didn't have a personal one. Oh, you deleted ours. Okay. Yeah. I didn't delete it. I removed the app from my phone. Okay. So I could still log on, you know, if I really wanted to.

Yeah. Just good riddance, you know. But yeah, Instagram, we're still on Instagram. as of right now at least Instagram is still cool in my in my mind I could do it with a little bit less ads you know what I mean but hey you know you gotta pay the bills I understand so anyway I find us on on Instagram just search for no filler reach out to us tell us what your favorite tracks were from this year

last year we tried to do something where we maybe it was last year or the year before but we tried to do like a best musical moments I think that might have been 2020 because 2020 was such a weird year for live music and stuff. That was 2020, yeah. What did we do last year? What was our outro songs? I don't think we did anything like that.

We, actually, I think we opened it up to people to say, hey, give us your favorite tracks and we'll play one. So yeah, we'll try to do that again. Send us your favorite tracks from this year, as in new releases from this year on Instagram, and we will pick one track each week to play. And if we don't hear from anybody, maybe I'll just have Ronnie tell me what her favorite tracks were over this year.

Ronnie and Nathan, since they were some of our guests from this year, toward the end of the year, maybe I'll reach out to them as well and get their take on things. Anyway, also, of course, you can find us on the Pantheon Podcast Network. That's Pantheonpodcast.com. And yeah, that's it. So I'm going to close us out with a track. I'm going to do something different here because I thought about playing this track, but decided not to.

But this is interesting. You want to talk about another kind of unique sound from Sweet Trip? They had an EP called Allura, or Alira, that came out in 1999. And this is another, almost like a down tempo track, which is really interesting. These guys were just very, very unique. So I'm going to play this song to close us out. This song is called Palomar. Your shadow is the yellow sun.

And yeah, that's going to do it. So next week, we will kick off our best of 2022. Join us for that. That'll be a lot of fun. We'll talk at you guys next week. My name is Travis. And I'm Quentin. Take care.