No Filler Music Podcast - The Stills: Logic Will Break Your Heart

Episode Date: November 16, 2020

We've said it before, and we'll probably say it again: the early 00's marked the beginning of our journey as music lovers. And this is right about the time garage rock and the post-punk revival starte...d to really take off. The Stills is just another of the countless "The" bands that hit the scene around that time, but there's just something about their debut record Logic Will Break Your Heart that stands out amongst the rest. It's dark and clever lyrics pair perfectly with the always clean, angular guitar work reminiscent of Interpol and Joy Division with catchy riffs and hooks aplenty. This show is a part of The Pantheon Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:47 I've got a quick PSA for you. So this is our episode on The Stills, and their album Logic will break your heart. So I messed up pretty bad. I was messing with my audio input last week, and I forgot to switch it back to my fancy USB mic before we hit record on this one. and yeah, I didn't realize until after listening back to it that the microphone was set to the crappy little webcam mic that is built into my laptop.
Starting point is 00:02:26 So this one is going to sound a little different. It's going to sound kind of crappy. Apologies for that. And then, while I was editing it together, by the time we got to our What You Heard segment at the end of the episode, my vocals just completely crap out and they sound all distorted and weird. So we're fading out at the end of our conversation on the stills. So there will be no What You Heard's on this episode.
Starting point is 00:02:57 But I went ahead and added the two songs from our What You Heard's to the Spotify playlist. So you can still listen to them there. And again, apologies everyone for the, low audio quality on this one. So yeah, here is the episode on The Stills and their album from 2003, Logic will break your heart. And welcome to No Filler. The music podcast dedicated to sharing the often overlooked hidden gyms to fill the space between the singles on our favorite records. My name is Travis. I got my brother Quentin with me today, as always. And we are in the same year, Q, as our last full-length episode.
Starting point is 00:04:33 We're still in 2003, which means we are in the prime decade of our love affair for music, Q. This was the decade when we started seeking out music independently of, you know, stuff we are on the radio or stuff that our older brother listened to. We've talked about this before. So this was like... We're going back to school. We're going back to school again, yeah. You could say that. Can't stay away from it.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Yeah, we did a batch of episodes a few months back called No Philo Goes Back to School, where we mostly focused on like punk emo kind of stuff that we were into. But, yeah, we listened to all kinds of music during this. I mean, this is when we were in high school, so this was it, you know. So that song there that play this hen, it's called Lola Stars and Stripes by a band called called The Stills. And that is who we're talking about today. The name of the record is,
Starting point is 00:05:32 logic will break your heart. So, Q, it's another the band from the early 2000s or a ton of the bands that came out, you know, because it was the garage rock resurgence, I guess, is what it,
Starting point is 00:05:47 what it kind of stemmed from, although I wouldn't put these guys in that category, but, you know. I think it's more accurate to classify this time period as the resurgence of the the bands. Yeah, totally. The the bands. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:02 And that goes hand in hand with garage rock, I feel like. I don't know why. Yeah, but no, that's true. A lot of garage bands are the bands. That is part of it, yeah. But, yeah, you know, this band is, it's just like quintessential indie rock music, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:18 This was the time for that, the decade, when indie bands were, you know, This was when MySpace was an actual, you know, legit place where you could find new bands and whatnot. This was kind of before SoundCloud really took off, before Band Camp really took off. So a lot of these indie bands that didn't have, you know, that weren't on big labels. I mean, I mean, these guys were actually on Vice Records, so they were on a big label. But, you know, a lot of these indie bands could actually get, start to get attention beyond radio waves. on MTV and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Yeah. And for me, I can, I'm going to tell a brief story just so because I want to give another shout out to our buddy Mitch. What's up, Mitch? Yeah, Mitchell. What's up, man? I know you're listening. You're the only one that listens on a consistent basis.
Starting point is 00:07:13 So it must have been freshman or sophomore year in high school. We were in one of those computer classes that basically the teacher didn't teach, you know I mean. So it was just a blow off glass. So we were listening to music all the time. That's when I discovered May. It's when I discovered Me Without You, which are actually two bands that we covered a few months back.
Starting point is 00:07:37 And The Stills was another band that I discovered. I don't remember where I found him, but I watched the music video for one of the singles on this album called Still in Love song. And I was drawn in. Honestly, dude, I feel like a lot of what drew me into this band was the
Starting point is 00:07:57 I guess production and art direction of the music video. It really matched the vibes of the record and even the album cover dude. Like this for some reason that maybe it has to do with the vibes of the album and not just because of the record
Starting point is 00:08:19 like not just because of the album art and and the whole like dark vibes that they were going for but this album to me just always reminds me of night drives like and this was dude this was right when we got our driver's license you know there's something about this record that it's moody and dark and the lyrics as well but it's and i think it's in all the right ways you're right dude it is you know when you look back at the uh the landscape of indie music back then you're right there's something about the lyrics and yeah the fact that the album art you know it's black um their album art for the album that came out after this just had like a flaming skull on it or something like that remember
Starting point is 00:09:06 yep and then the third one oh wait i'm i'm saying that incorrectly the third one had the skull on it the second one without feathers had like a flower on fire or something like that they were going for that kind of dark imagery and i guess the the lyrics as we'll as we'll hear are kind of you know. I'm going to say email, man. Yeah, they're, yeah. They're about heartache and, I mean, the name of the record is logic will break your heart. So, you know, it's your classic heartache type stuff and suicide and all that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:37 This was an album that I listened to so much that the CD started to skip. And that ages us a little bit. You remember, yeah, I was going to say, for those of you remember that problem. But I remember I drove, I went to. Barnes and Noble and I bought this CD there. Man, you didn't buy it from Mark at CD Addict? What's going on here?
Starting point is 00:10:00 No, dude. I don't know why. Maybe I was just, it was just a convenience thing. I did pick up an EP of theirs from Mark, though. It was the I can't remember reese, I think it's how he said. I have no idea what that is. It's pretty sweet actually, dude. Maybe we'll outro with,
Starting point is 00:10:20 There's a song on there called Killer Bees that I really like. But it's a four-track EP that has two different versions of Still in Love song on there. And then these two B-sides, Killer Bees, and Talk to Me. Interesting. Of course, Mark had, you know, the more rare of the releases of theirs, he actually had this little four-track CD. Yeah, I was going to say, it's interesting that he had that. All right, so let's talk about these guys here. they are from Canada.
Starting point is 00:10:50 They're actually from Montreal, and there's a song on this record called Of Montreal. So that is where they are of. They are of Montreal. And the roster here is Tim Fletcher is the lead singer. I'm going to give you the roster for when this record came out. So Tim Fletcher on vocals, he also plays guitar. Dave Hamelin, drums, keyboards, guitar, vocals,
Starting point is 00:11:23 Greg Paquet, lead guitar, and Oliver Crow on bass. And there's a couple other guys that are credited for various tracks. Maybe we'll throw a shout out to them if we actually play one of those tracks. But yeah, let's, so we're going to do four tracks for this episode. Usually we try to do like three, but there's not much to talk about with these guys. at least we're not going to give like a deep dive into their history and stuff because, you know, I assume that this is maybe the case with some of the other, like some of the other albums that we played during our back-to-school batch of episodes that, you know, there's probably not too many listeners out there who are familiar with these guys.
Starting point is 00:12:06 And to me, it's more about let's just listen to the music and appreciate the tunes, you know. Let's do it. So, yeah, let's play our first track here. and then I'm going to talk about what drew me to this record and what I loved about this record so much. All right, Q. So our intro song was track one on the album, Lola, Stars and Stripes.
Starting point is 00:12:29 That's also a single. So we're going to jump to the next track on the album. This song is called Gender Bombs. This has always been one of my favorite tracks on the record. Yeah, me too. It's one of those moments, you know, this is like a prime example of one of those. instances where you know you buy a CD and you're listening to it for the first time it's just
Starting point is 00:15:14 track two and you're like all right man I'm going to love this album yeah yeah everything dude I love the the guitar uh riffs and like the drum be like it's very it's very interpull to me yeah so they get yeah they get compared to interpull a lot and I think that's it's mainly because of the guitar so you know his His vocals are nowhere near Paul Banks, right? Not at all. But the guitar. And I need to give a shout-out to the drummer as well.
Starting point is 00:15:47 This is one of those albums that I have played along to behind the kit from start to finish. I love his style. I would say that my style of drumming is very similar to his. I just love it, I love it, man. The drum beats are great throughout this entire record. Shout up to Dave as a beast. But yeah, I would say that. the same about the guitar. So, like, this guy, um, between the two of them, Tim and David, or I mean,
Starting point is 00:16:16 Tim and Greg, like, they're just, they got these riffs, man. They got these killer riffs and, and hooks and stuff that, that is like throughout the entire record. And like, I don't know if you caught, if you, if you, if you picked up on it, but there is a, kind of this third lead, um, guitar riff that they add about the third verse, um, that's just fucking a, um, Amazing. I almost want to play it again, but like, let's do it. It's, uh, all right, let's do it. Yeah, it's, it's the, I think it's the third verse when he starts, you know, the lyrics are,
Starting point is 00:16:47 could this be the gaining force of 10 loves in a row? Yeah, dude, it kind of goes up a little higher in notes. Yeah, but what I like about it is it's, it's following the, uh, I like it when guitar, guitar lines do this. They're following the, uh, the melody of the singer. Like, if you listen to the way that they, he does. that he sings the verse, at least. He's kind of going slowly down to, like, scale, you know?
Starting point is 00:17:29 And the guitar line is doing the same thing. But anyway, I've always just, what I like about this guitar player throughout the whole record is they have a lot of, it's a very clean guitar tone. Like, it's not, there's no distortion or fuzz or anything like that. Like, you know, with a lot of garage bands, they've got like fuzz on the, you know, some fuzz distortion. Oh, yeah, at least a little bit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:52 there's almost you know it's a very clean guitar sound and i think they do it in a very like effective way um it just adds to the overall vibe and and um darkness almost too but um you know and that maybe is is part of the interpole comparison that they get a lot but yeah the lyrics are really interesting um on the song like i like the opening line brains on a brick wall like that what a cool opening yeah line to a song obviously it's referring to suicide. A 16 year old kid. Yeah, it's suicide.
Starting point is 00:18:26 So like, you know, there's even the word suicide is using the song. Massive suicide dreams. Yeah. You know, email like you were saying. But, and you said you liked that verse that we just played. Yeah, my favorite verse, could this be the gaining force of 10 loves in a row? Drunken Sunday evenings will just be in you windows. I read that as
Starting point is 00:18:52 you know like heartbreak again you know it's just a pattern and now Sunday evenings are just a drunken mess. Yeah. So this song led to a pretty epic handmade t-shirt of yours truly. I don't know if you remember this shirt.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Oh my God, I do remember it. So I grabbed this super raggedy white undershirt and I got a blue sharpie and a black sharpie and I drew like an anatomically correct heart on its hand scribbled the lyrics to the song on the side of the shirt.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Just the words logical break your heart of the, all of the entire song? I don't think it was the entire song. Oh, my goodness. I don't remember honestly. And I fucking rocked the shit out of that shirt, dude. This was my, this was prime, like, emo days for the, for years true. I mean, you were, you know, I think your motives were probably aimed at a particular person that you were dating to.
Starting point is 00:19:59 I just got to throw that out there that you're like, you know what? I've got to keep up with this crowd that I'm running with here. I've got to write some lyrics on a shirt. Let's give another shout out to Karen, because, yeah. Her good friend at the time. I mean, that's not, yeah, it was her friend at the time. but um yes i was yeah i was crushing on pretty hard dude uh and we actually dated for a little yeah so you're so you had to keep you had to keep up once you insert yourself into the email
Starting point is 00:20:25 crowd queue it's only matter of time before you have lyrics on a t-shirt from sharpie so and uh straightened hair yes i straightened my hair but i mean i was in the opposite direction i was a total tool as well but anyway. But yeah. So yeah, this, yeah, this album was perfect for a little 16-year-old being. Yeah, because of the lyrics. The lyrics are exactly what a high school kid would connect with. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:20:58 High school, teenage boy, for sure. All right, so we're going to move on here. We got three more tracks. All right, before we get into our next pick here, let's take a quick break. So what are we doing next year? We're doing... Ready for it. Ready for it.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Okay. Let me talk about the... Before we play it. So, as I mentioned, I've always connected with the guitar, the riffs, the tone I really connected with. I liked that style of sort of the angular guitar, single note picked. Not a lot of chords, right? That's where Interpol comes in, you know, the same, similar vibes.
Starting point is 00:21:45 or like um, Foles, you know? Yeah, yeah, math rock kind of stuff, yeah. So like,
Starting point is 00:21:51 this was the perfect record for me as a budding guitar player at the time because I could kind of pick this out on the guitar without having to look up tabs. That's what we call them, guitar tabs online. Because, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:05 it's kind of easy to, chords are one thing. I mean, I'm, I'm confessing my, my level of nubness on the guitar. Cords are, one thing, but being able to sort of just pick around until it sounds like the note, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:20 I could kind of pick around it and play along with this record, kind of like you were playing along with the drums, right? So this song in particular, I love this song because of the guitar. So let's give it a listen here. This song is called Ready for It. One of those albums, like, I know every single word and I would these tunes in my car. Yeah. This was definitely a sing-along. album. But yeah. So with the guitar, right?
Starting point is 00:25:35 Yeah. It's amazing what you can do with just picking a single note kind of in succession there. Because what he's doing is, you know, there's a lot of, you know, slides, you know, sliding up to another note, bending it a little bit. You know, I like it when guitar players do that. They kind of slowly bend the note up while picking it and then bend it back down, you know. It's a very simple technique, but like if done, right, it could be very effective. and I like that lead guitar.
Starting point is 00:26:02 He steps on like an overdrive pedal or something like that. And, yeah, man, it's just like the, you know, a little bit of reverb, a little bit of delay, and just some single notes picked, you know, kind of in secession. Just it's the Interpol comparison that we keep talking about. But yeah, it's just really effective, cue. And yeah, what we like about this song is what we're about to play next here, the next part of this, there's kind of a cool, really slowed down, like, sort of like, gentle kind of outro to the song, which is really cool, because, like, the rest of the song is
Starting point is 00:26:41 very fast and kind of upbeat. It's very, yeah, it's very, like, erratic. Yeah, and they have this kind of breakdown. But what's cool about it, I guess we're going to play, let's play the rest of the whole song, because there's also, like, this breakdown, you know, sort of a bridge, I guess. it's a breakdown that leads to the breakdown. But yeah, let's just play the rest of the song. So let me just mention this one lyric here that I think is another classic sort of emo lyric.
Starting point is 00:27:10 It says, loving you is a black hole. Loving you is a black hole. And then it just goes right back into it. Yeah, it introduces like a new lick, you know. But yeah, again, classic emo line right there, right? this guy obviously went through a breakup and decided to write a record about it. Yeah, he's pretty upset about it, dude. I mean, drunk in Sunday evenings, you know, he felt hit there.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Don't you know it. All right, so I'm going to jump ahead a little bit, and we're going to play this outro that kind of changes the whole vibe of the song. Yeah, I mean, it is, it's one of those. Lovely. Yeah, it's just kind of like this. It almost kind of puts you into like a, a. like a, you know, kind of hypnotizes you a little bit, puts you into like a lull, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:31 And I don't know what, you know, you always have to wonder, like, what, what made them say, hey, let's, let's add this to the end of the song, you know what I mean? Was that just another, was that like a jam session? So, sometimes I like to pretend like I was actually in a band dude that was like a big deal, you know, because I do have some experience recording music. and I got to say there's a few times in some of the songs that we recorded
Starting point is 00:31:00 where like none of the new creative ideas were us at all. It was all thanks to our producer, Joel. We had him on the pod, Q. We did, dude. Jump back and listen to our Ethan Derell episode. Another great
Starting point is 00:31:17 band from this era, dude. I mean, I wouldn't put him in the same band as the Steelers. But my point is, I always just assume that these kind of things that happen like this in songs are from the producer saying like, hey, you know what would be cool? We do like an outro like this. And you guys just put your spin on it. You're saying with your experience in, you know, the rock band that you were in, even if you guys didn't make it on device records, you had a producer. who would guide a song, right?
Starting point is 00:31:55 I mean, that's what the producer does. So you're right, that could have been, that very well could have been how it went down. But I've always, I always have to wonder, like, what, why did they decide to do that? Now, you know, who cares at the end of the day? If you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, a lot of people just listen to music to listen to music and they don't go through these, you know, they don't wonder these things.
Starting point is 00:32:20 But like, I think for people like you and I, if you're tuning in, to no filler every week, dude. And if you're actually listening to us blabber on for an hour every week, then you're probably one of those people that actually enjoys thinking about these kind of things. Well, what I was going to say is, like,
Starting point is 00:32:37 I think one of the reasons that we think about it is because we have both been in rock bands. So we've been in the position of like, hey, we're a band and we're writing a song. And, hey, we're in the rehearsal space. and like sometimes, yeah, that kind of stuff just kind of comes naturally, like I said, during a jam session or something like that. And then, you know, suddenly it just becomes part of the song, you know.
Starting point is 00:33:02 But, yeah, a lot of people probably just don't think about that kind of stuff. Well, man, we could talk for hours. But we got a couple more songs to play, dude. This next one, I was a must for me to play because, I mean, just the stuff that they do in this song is just so different and like as different as it is, I think it fits in so well with the rest of the vibes of this album. So we're going to jump down a few more songs. This song is called Animals Plus Insects. Man, the drums actually are really simple. Yeah. At the end there. But I love the like the drum machine kind of thing that they do at the beginning of the song.
Starting point is 00:36:23 And the way that they pan it in the recording dude, it just kind of bounces back and forth in your ears. That's actually a guy, I don't know his last name. He's credited as Werner F. Yeah, he contributed to the drum programming on track nine. So I think he might have just been somebody at the recording studio, because it says here, recorded by Werner F at the Boiler Room. So that is where they recorded this, the Boiler Room in Brooklyn, New York.
Starting point is 00:36:53 But yeah, you want to talk about that, that is definitely probably a producer. a producer decision right there to add that in the beginning, which is really, it's interesting because like we were saying, the drums are so simple, the drum, the proper drums, right? Yeah. Adding that little programmed drum thing in the very beginning. Does it go throughout the whole song? It does, right?
Starting point is 00:37:14 The program drum beat. It pops back up. Yeah, it's interesting. But, dude, let's talk about the lyrics. The lyrics are really interesting. I mean, I have no fucking idea what this guy's talking about. Well, all right. Let me give you my interpretation, Q, because I think I have an idea what he's talking about.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Let's just, let's break it down here because these are some weird ass lyrics. There's nothing about suicide. There's nothing about heartache. This is just somebody, it sounds to me like this is a somebody who's having some self-reflection, right? He says, I stumble out of a nightclub thinking animals and insects don't do drugs. I think I'll go out and act like I'm celibate. jingle bells in a Christmas choir. To me, that's somebody's like, you know, this guy stumbles out.
Starting point is 00:38:00 He says he stumbles out of a nightclub. So he's probably either, like he said, he's drunk or he's on drugs. And he's like, animals and insects don't bother themselves with all this bullshit. Like, what do I, you know, what am I doing here? Let me just, let me just go act like I'm celibate. In other words, like, let me go be a monk or something like that. Yeah. Let me just go stand in a Christmas choir and jingle some bells.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Like, let me change my lifestyle because, like, animals and insects. don't put up with this bullshit. Why am I doing it? I like that, dude. That's a good observation. Because he comes back around at the end. He says, I thought this was, this is always kind of a funny line. He says, I'll shake my cutie pie fist at a waitress when I'm sick of the way that I've been. So I think that's interesting. He's not shaking his fist at the waitress because he's mad at the waitress. It's because he's mad at himself, right? And it says, I think I'll go and act anti-celibate and throw grenades at it.
Starting point is 00:38:53 a Christmas choir. So now he's back to like his good old self or whatever, right? And then it's interesting just the fact that he repeats the word, the word or the term, oh my God, over and over and over again. Yeah, we faded out, but it just keeps going. That's how the song is. Yeah. So there's a lot of like kind of weird religious imagery and stuff in this record. Yeah. And did you notice at the end of the first verse right after he says jingle bells and a Christmas choir, there's jingle bells. in the very back. You son of a bitch. I didn't even notice that.
Starting point is 00:39:29 That's a whole two on the nose for me, but whatever, I'll take it. It's fine. Let me see who got credited for doing the jingle bells on the record. Right, they better get some credit for those jingles. Nobody. I'm guessing it was Dave Hamelin. Dude, maybe they just appeared. No one knows.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Maybe they appeared like magic. Or the producer just like pushed his like pre-programmed jingle bell. I'm going to blow you guys away with this next idea. What if we put jingle bells in this song? Yeah. Right after you say jingle bells. Are you guys sitting down?
Starting point is 00:40:04 I'm about to jingle your bells with this idea. Yeah. All right, dude. We've got to play. We got one more song. Oh, we got two more songs. What? No, we just got fevered.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Have we already played three songs? Yeah, I do. Molly. Time flies when you're having fun. So I think we both agree this is up there for, one of my favorite songs on the record, dude. This might be my favorite track on the record, for sure.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Love the drum beat on this song. Whenever we determine what songs we're going to play, you know, usually we have like non-negotiables sometimes where it's like, no, we have to play this track, we have to play this one. And I think this was one that we both agreed had to be on the, had to make it to the cut list for, because I mean, honestly, dude,
Starting point is 00:40:47 this was a hard record to narrow down. That's why we're playing four songs, right? because we couldn't decide on which one to cut. But anyway, Fevered, this track that we're about to play, there's just something about it. So let's give it a listen. The song's called Fevered. Love this song, dude.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Me too. You know, it's got this like, there's this, it's this buildup to like a release, you know what I mean? If you are kind of paying attention to the way that the song kind of, you know, it's very like monotonous kind of. of, you know, like as far as the guitar is very metronomy, I guess. Like, it's very repetitive. But then there's this thing that happens with the drums,
Starting point is 00:43:52 so you can kind of feel the drums open up a little bit, right? Like, that's a thing that you guys do, right? On the kit? Yeah, yeah. You're playing the hi-hat or whatever, and then you start to open it up. That happens in this song leading into the chorus, you know, when you start saying it slows down until I shut down.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Anyway, the way that they bring up. pull it off, I think is great. And dude, again, like, this guy has, he must have went to, he must have went to a Catholic school or something like that, because he talks about these religious, like the religious imagery all the time. He mentions Mary Magdalene in this song, which I think was, wasn't that the, yeah, Mary Magdalene was the prostitute in some, some book of the Bible. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:35 she apparently traveled with Jesus and one of his followers and was a witness to his crucifixion dude one thing I always thought about the lyrics to this song and honestly to a lot of the songs start this whole record and I think this song of course it's even more fitting but like these almost sound like imagery that you'd
Starting point is 00:44:59 like scribble in the notebook after like waking up from a like a fever dream you know it's just so bizarre yeah i think you're right it's called fever dude yeah you're right strange like skin that i believe in i think that's not what they're actually stretches over bone and smells like honey on the wind smells like honey on the wind yeah what yeah yeah dude poetic also strange i can't remember honey on the wind could be like some sort of perfume maybe like you get a whiff whiff of it or something like that i don't know oh so strange this dreams that haunt my bed, the heartache swells and quickens near the end.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Yeah. Yeah. He's, he's like making comparisons to, I don't know what the fuck he's talking about, but it's great. I love the lyrics. But, you know, kind of like what we were saying at the beginning of the episode about like dark imagery and stuff like that, that's what I've always liked about his lyrics, Tim Fletcher, is that he, yeah, he throws in these, like, references to, you know, these
Starting point is 00:46:01 biblical references and these, like, interesting metaphors and stuff like that. he's a good lyricist yeah he's definitely a good lyricist so yeah man that's it dude I mean there's a handful or there are non-singles on here that we could play
Starting point is 00:46:15 but you know kind of wrap this puppy up at so forth yeah so anyway this is just one of those records that um that stands out to me
Starting point is 00:46:24 in the you know in the slew of of indie records that came out in that decade you know um there's just something
Starting point is 00:46:32 special about it you know and you know the records that they're put out after this, there were some good songs here and there, for sure. I'm a big fan of helicopters. Yeah, there's some great tracks on their
Starting point is 00:46:43 other records, but there's something about logical break your heart, and that's their debut record, you know, so there's a, you know, I think we've talked about this before, but debut records are more often
Starting point is 00:46:59 than not, like, the best that a band, it's, you know, they're putting their best foot forward a lot of times. They have something to say. They don't have any record label obligations yet. And they have songs that they could have been perfecting and, you know, playing live. Right, for years. For years, yeah. And it's like they have something to prove, you know what I mean. And then you sign your record deal and, oh, now we have this timeline that we're locked into where it's like, okay, you got to put out a record every two years. You got to do all this touring in between that.
Starting point is 00:47:35 you know, for a lot of bands, it cuts into the freedom and the creative process and all that stuff. So I would say that this is not necessarily the case because, like I said, they continue to put out good stuff. But this record is, stands out to me for sure. And so it's a favorite of mine from that, not era for sure. Yeah, definitely. All right. Well, that's it, man. That is.
Starting point is 00:48:05 a rap for this record. So next week, we're going to talk about, I think we've, I don't know if we've talked about this band before, but, we definitely have because they, I brought one of their songs as a side track while I look at it. I mean, as of what you're heard. From this record? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:24 And dude, guess what, man, it came out in the same bloody year. Dude, 2003. Yeah, we're going to talk about a band called Longwave. So I, do you know how we've stumbled? upon these guys because I sure don't. I remember seeing them on Linow or something like that or maybe Conan, but it may have been, yeah. I mean, that's before Shazam. So it's not like I shazammed it.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Well, I guess I wouldn't have to because Conan or Lina would have told me the name of the band. But anyway, yeah, just another obscure record from that decade. But another one that always sticks out to me. I confess, I don't think I've listened to this entire record ever. Oh man, you should give it a go all the way through, dude. It's worth it. Okay, I will. I definitely will this week before we hit record.
Starting point is 00:49:11 But yeah, the opening track on this record, we have to play it. I don't care if it's a single. All right, so that's about the time that my vocals crap out on us. So, yeah, know what you heard segment for this episode. So I'm going to go ahead and just wrap this all up for us. So as always, you can find us on the Pantheon podcast network. That is the music network that we are part of. You can also find us on our website, no fillerpodcast.com.
Starting point is 00:49:54 There we've got all of our show notes where we link to sources that we use. We also have track lists on there for all the songs that we cover. And you can also follow us on Twitter. That is at No Filler. podcast. And yeah, that's going to do it for us today. Again, apologies for the quality of my vocals on this one. It will never happen again, I promise. And yeah, next week we're going to cover Long Wave, and we're going to pick a song from their album The Strangest Things that came out in 2003. So I'm going to play us out with a song from a little EP that the Stills released, the same year,
Starting point is 00:50:39 that logic will break your heart came out back in 2003. The EP is called Rememberes, and the song is Killer Bees. All right, thank you, as always, for listening. Y'all take care.

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