No Filler Music Podcast - The World Don't Belong To You: Lonesome Shack's City Man

Episode Date: August 8, 2026

On this episode we dive into the nitty, gritty, and downright dirty blues of Ben Todd, aka Lonesome Shack. We focus on his 2013 release "City Man", which was recorded live on April 6th, 2012 at Cafe Racer, Seattle WA. These songs hearken back to the blues of yesteryear, with raw & emotional vocals, foot-stompin' rhythms ,and a screamin' sax to boot. Tracklist: Bad Luck Love Makes Love City Man The Admiral Mushin Dog White Lightning The show is part of the Pantheon Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Our buddy Mitch is in the house as well. What's up, boys? I got to kick all the mud and dirt off my boots queue after that. They call me Mississippi muddy Mitch right now. Give me a blues name, bro. Mashed Potato Johnson. Mashed potato Johnson. Br, that's a metalocalyptych out.

Shout out metalocalyves. I don't know if we've talked about like the cross, like, how much crossover? Yeah, it's like blues and country. You know what? Well, that was just straight up. That was straight up. Mississippi Delta, right? That's as far as I know.

That's right, dude. Yeah. Because when I hear that, I think, actually, go ahead. Can't finish what you're about to say? Yeah. Remember when we used to say the name of the, I just remember that right at the beginning? We're so bad about that now. You know what?

I just want to just get into the, get into the chat. So we're covering, we're covering Lonesome Shack today. What a great name, dude. Oh, and there's some good lore behind it, too, Mitch. Oh, excellent. And we're just good. We're going to, we're going to focus on, his album Cityman from 2013.

15 years on almost. Thank you. Is this a two piece? I'm sorry? Oh, it's a trio. It's a trio. I did a few smattering YouTube views and I'd seen him with a full band and I'd seen it with just like a percussionist who was like slapping a box.

So he's got, it's a trio. So his name is Ben Day Todd. That's Lundsen Shack. And his bandmates are Christian Gerard and Luke Bergman. So if you want, we can get into the history of it now, or if you want, let's just chat it up for a little bit, because

there's a really cool, really cool story behind the name Lonesome Shack. Well, when I heard, like, that song, at least, that just makes me think of, like, the style of blues that Black Keys brought to the table, you know what I mean? Yeah, that sounds like it's out of two piece.

Yeah. Is it weird that my mind goes to freaking Samuel L. Jackson and Black Snake Mown? No. No. Not at all. No. Okay. I mean, it's not like a, that's not like a... That exposed me to a lot of really cool Mississippi Delta. I was going to say. Absolutely. That soundtrack was awesome. Really awesome. Yeah. So, man, you want to talk about this is just going to be a music heavy episode.

Boy, is it. There's not a lot out there about this guy. I mean, Qaeda. You made in a vein, right? It's blues. That's deep for America and how far back it goes. Well, so here's how the name came about. So he was living in. basically on the edge of like this huge expansive forest. It's called the Gila Wilderness in Catron County, New Mexico. So just in the outskirts, right? In a small shack with his girlfriend at the time. Lonesome shack.

Hello. They lived out there for a while, and that's when he started, he first started learning those traditional blues songs, picked up, you know, learn how to play the banjo. And then he started going from like those traditional blues songs. songs to writing his own material. And yeah, it was that isolation and, you know, the wilderness out there that kind of just, like, took him in that direction.

Oh, that's back. Like, you imagine at night. Yeah, man. That's awesome. And then from then on, he started going by Lonesome Shack. And then he moved to Seattle. And that's when he met his bandmates at this cafe called the Cafe Racer. They took up a weekly residency there.

And that is where Cityman was recorded. So it is a live album recording. at the cafe where he met his bandmates. Oh, that's tasty. Really cool. That is cool. Really funny. Right.

And that's bad. That leans into that what the blues is all about, bro. Just on the spot every night if we're playing, you know, or once a week if we're at residency. Just like improv. Yeah, he's about it. Totally. It's a cool flavor, too. If he was doing that out in New Mexico and then and then coalescing in Seattle.

Yeah. But paying homage to clearly Mississippi-style blues. But then also, I know there's some other stuff too cute point. And I'm not going to be surprised if there's some. in turns where it's something very unique just to this guy. I'll just go ahead and bring this up now. So I was interested in this because I saw on the band camp for this album. This is dedicated to the racer family and the victims of the May 30th shootings.

Had to look into it. There were some shootings that occurred less than a month after he recorded this live album at the Cafe Racer where this guy, some guy walked in, the staff that were recognized him. He had previously been thrown out. Basically, he killed a bunch of people at the cafe. That's awesome. Went out still, yeah, killed some woman and hijacked her car.

Jeez, he got out of there, him. And then killed himself. So, so, and when. You said that happened just like a couple of weeks after they recorded? Yeah. Wow, man. They recorded this album at the Cafe Racer in Seattle on April 6th, 2012 on May 30th of 2012. So a month and some change later is when the sheet.

shootings are great. And this is the place that they, they, they were doing their weekly residency, basically like this, yeah, man. Cafe Racer was like the birth of the Lonesome Shack Trio. You know, I talk about, like, hitting close to home, man. Right. Anyways. So, like, the ambience, the ambience, all the stuff you hear in these recordings, there's from cafe, you know, cafe raster, and the people that were there at the time. So anyways, blues has a lot of dark subjects, man, including straight up murder and things, Quinn. So it's scary that that kind of happened. You know, it's like writing, uh, like fiction to life in a way.

I'm not saying it was deserved or or make an excuse for it, any kind of, but that's awful that, you know. Yeah. Crazy. Because the timing of it, really. Because it could have happened any other night that they were playing there. You're right. They could have been playing there that night.

All right, boys. So, yeah, let's just jump in it, man. Let's just listen. This album is a, I mean, it's a solid, like, no filler album for sure, man. And he has dialed into this sound. I mean, he's just perfected it, dude. And having it, you know, kind of poorly recorded because, you know, I don't know what kind of equipment they had to record there at the cafe racer. Kind of the low-fi nature of it.

Yeah. Yeah. If it was just like recorded from the mixer or something, you know, from the mixing board. Well, that first one sounded ace, bro, so I don't know. Right. Yeah, it's like I was right there with him. Dude, this guy's riffs are top goddamn notch, man. Oh, dude, his riff is great, Quinn.

Yes. Oh, just kidding. Oh, you just wait, dude. Just way, yeah, we're going to jump right into a tasty jam. All right. So here we're going to jump to the next track on the record. This one's called Love Makes Love. The piddling clapping is killing me, quick.

I would have been hollering, dude. I would have been hollering. I know. Dude, they're not in Texas. They don't know how to behave. Yeah, that's true. Texas, dude, that we do begin. That's true.

That's true. It's kind of a different vibe. I mean, I'm not saying that'd be. out of place. But yeah, that was, what a fucking group. What almost like a meditative quality to it, Quinn, like, puts you in a trance, man. Yeah, and the drums, too, loved the drum, man. Sheffling a little beat.

So, kind of loose fills here and there. Give you something different from that guitar. That's almost overwhelming at a point where you're just, like, nodding off to it, you know? And then the drums kind of bring you back to, like, oh, it kind of loosens you up. He might be doing like a, like a finger-picking situation or like a thumb-pick or something.

But, yeah, like, his guitar, playing is very like percussive like it's right alongside the drums almost the entire time yeah yeah like the way of the you know what I mean like it just very like a drumbeat yeah like like almost almost just right right alongside and like in step with the drummer you know which is kind of what the bass player usually does I feel like all three of them were like totally just totally in sync that whole time I did get to see them live like uh it's probably 2017 2018 2018 at the Tractor, this really awesome, awesome.

The tractor, that's awesome, man. The tractor. It's a country. It's a country. I think so. Yeah, I think it was. I don't remember if, you know, what all he played from this stuff.

But yeah, man, it was, it was very much this the whole time. Just like, all three of them very locked in. Anyways, yeah, dude, love it. I can't find lyrics, man. I can't find, there's not a lot out there. I didn't have a wiki. I tried to cruise on his wiki.

I didn't see one. Oh, yeah, man. I mean, does he obscure these guys are. Love Makes Love, I think he was trying to, he's asking whoever his potential partner or lover, like, how do you want it? I'll return it the same way, but if you get it to me wrong, you know, it hurt me. You got to start with that question. That's a great question, you know. How do you want it, man? If you get things on the table, yeah, it truly is.

Isn't there a tenacious D song? Bro, there's a tenacious D song for everything, and let's get back on doing that movie soundtrack, the first soundtrack, ever, right? If you boys haven't done a soundtrack, right? That would be a great jewel in the no-fieler crown. I think Travis has done some for our Halloween episodes. I think we've done some soundtracks. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah. Well, that's different. That's different. That's different. That's different. That's like a Halloween theme. Yeah, with Carpenter. I remember that now. And, uh, horror movies, yeah, with Goblin stuff. Those are great, Chad, by the way. Those are fantastic. Got me through some airplane rides recently. Yeah, I got to, I got to start thinking now, man. It's, it's, right? It'll be

October before you know it. All right, boys, let's jump to the next one. Yeah, hit me. So, I feel like it's going to be a short and sweet episode, but I'm cool with that. Jumping down to track seven, this one's called City Man. I see. Trouble wrong, trouble one plays to play. Intimate way, where it's bouncing off of it.

And he waits until more than halfway through the record to drop it on us. There doesn't, there's no more sacks in this out. It's like thin and done. And my head can't, and the guy was just like, you know what? I'm here with my saxophone and I'm tired with them. It's going to go up there with him. Dude, I'll have been jam with him, dude. Yeah, it could have been just someone in the crowd.

Or, you know. Because a cafe or whatever that has a little stage on it probably has just, you know, instruments that are there. That was so good. You're just not not expecting it. You know what I mean? No, definitely not. Because when it came out, it took me a while to even like place it.

Like that, I'm hearing a saxophone, right? Is that? Because it's so, I mean. You change the cadence of it a bit and then it's almost like like a man-man track went and get a random. You know what I mean? Like you play like some kind of French horn or something different. You change it, let them have a little more jazzy improv space. And then you're like, whoa, dude, something completely different.

So that was awesome, dude. And you can tell the crowd, the crowd was kind of like lulled with them because they're just kind of snapping out of it as they clap and come to, you know. I feel like saxophone. just makes me think of like the saxophone Lisa Simpson Yeah, me too No, no no

I've been wondering about the saxophone And if it's ever gonna make its way back To like pop music Because like there are saxophones all over the place In the 80s and stuff Or even like celebs like Kenny G Travis like dudes like that Yeah right

Yeah I don't know man But you know what dude That's what makes this so special For the best bro Because like what a hidden I mean That's what I'm saying dude It humbles me.

I'm like, oh, I know fuck all about music. Especially because, like, jazz is a whole deep, deep pool that I barely did my tutsies in, right? Like, it's fucking, but I want to swim in it, but I'm also scared. So anyways, just that little sax riff, just enough to be like, oh, yeah, man, this is, there's something deeper there. And the line's great. City man, the world don't belong to you. I love that line, dude. So good, dude.

Yeah, I mean. What a groove. What a joint groove. that one would get the people kind of doing the sexy dancing and get real sweaty, you know, Quinn. Yeah, yeah. It's like that for album cover, that Marvin Gay album cover. Yes, bro. People dancing.

You know, I'm talking about. I just got to pull it up. It's most likely a shack. This one. Oh, yeah, exactly what you're talking about, bro. The Sugar Shack. Welcome to the Sugar Shack. Hello.

Anyways, let's move on in the next one, boys. We got a couple more to play. All right, this one is the next track on the record. This one's called the Admiral. It's an infinite groove, dude. That could go on forever. I totally forgot that was instrumental. That's incredible, bro.

That's great. Yeah. I just think of like, you know, it's hot, it's sticky. Like you can feel, like you can feel the humidity. You know what I mean? Like when you listen to this stuff. And yeah, dude. And my, like, you know, I just feel the urge to start slapping my knee, you know.

So me, it's, it's, it's, you're in a dusty, you know, backroads area in New Mexico. You walk into like a tiny little convenience store. There's no AC and you got to walk in and you grab a cold Coca-Cola or something. No, a cold Coca-Cola. Come on. A cold Coca-Cola? Oh, I'm sorry. You know what it is.

A cold beer. There you go. There you go. Say it right or don't say it at all. I don't know. I was starting to turn into a Coca-Cola commercial in my hands. Dude. You wipe the sweat.

You know, right, right. Sure. The super loud crack. And then like a little. little kid says, here you go, mister, and it throws you a Coke. It's in black and white until you crack it open. And the old lady nods and winks, June, smiles. That gives you a thumbs up.

What just happened? We just derailed in the Coca-Cola commercial. But no, it's hot for sure. Whatever the medium is or the scene that we're painting, like, it's hot, sticky. And it's funny that this is recorded in Seattle, you know? There's kind of a flavor of that there, though. Like, in that groove, like, I'm a few steps away from Britt Dan. Daniels, bro, Spoon, shout out.

Yeah. From him just, you know what I'm saying? It was also a Texan. Oh, yeah, for Daniels, King of Texas. I feel like Grunge is a very hot and humid type of sound, too, you know? You know what kind of is, trap? Now that you say that, it is, it kind of that angsty. Sure, for sure.

I'm fucking pissed because it's hot into you. I can't drive off. When you think of dirt by Allison Shane's, that whole record is just like sticking out of it and like hot. Or I think of a record, like, R.L. Burnside, old Mississippi Delta musician, and same vibe. like kind of a little bit angry on some tracks, uncomfortable in a way, dirty. Dirty, yeah, yes.

Filthy. I mean, that's gruntly. Some of that, that groove was borderline filthy, bro. It was pretty grungy. Yeah. I mean, not like the grunge sound, but it was, you know. But just like, like greasy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, but in a good way, just enough. I don't know, the admiral, maybe, maybe it's a name of a homie or a dog or a chicken or something. And that's just how I was about to bring. it up, dude. Like, how do you come up with names for instrumental songs? Dude. You know what I'm saying?

No clue. No clue. Just whatever the vibe is, you know? Yeah. Yeah, you just got to go with your first instinct on that a bit. Otherwise, you end up just numbering. I'm like, Travis, there's a metal band called Karma to Burn, and they play only instrumental songs, and all their songs are just literally fucking numbers.

Like, number 33, number 105. It's ridiculous. It's like, I'm not going to waste my time trying to come up with names. Yeah, it's kind of uninspired. It's like, come on, bro. A little bit. Give us something. Like, man, number 48, it's great.

dude, I love that part where it's like, what else was that? Was it number four? Yeah, they name the albums, but... Yeah, that would make it hard for the... It's super hard for the people, like, in the crowd. And then it's in your playlist, and it's like the third song, but it's the eighth song ever wrote, I guess. How do they even keep up with it, man? Like, imagine crying and come up with a side list.

Now, that's a tangent. Yeah, yeah. Shut that fucking... No, that was pretty funny. No, that was great one. Quinn, that's my favorite one so far. For real. That's like, like, like, oh, yeah.

Yes, Quinn, yes. The instrumental, quite tasty, quite tasty. Yes, bro. That brought me back to what the black keys were originally, bro. Yeah. Way back. You went hard on them for a while. Oh, my God, dude.

So hard. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like when they came out, there wasn't anything quite like it yet. I mean, the white stripes were like that. To this suburban white kid hearing two white dudes play like the heaviest blues. Yeah. Game changer for me, dude.

Yeah. I mean, white stripes I loved, but they were just kind of weird, man. at that time for me. Now it's reverse, right? White stripes, I see it. I see what Jack White and Meg White were doing. Really, Jack White. Like, with his color choices and blah, but not to derail it again.

But, yeah, huge Black Keys fan, Clinton. I mean, I couldn't love them anymore. I saw them when they were just that two-piece, saw them open for people. Saw them play small clubs in Austin before they blew the fuck up. Saw him at ACL. I've lost, like, four black key shirts. If there's a T-shirt, I've lost the most, it's the black keys. I mean, to put it like that, you know what I'm saying?

Like that man, I fucking love. And this, that one, right? right there was just tasty. I could listen to that literally on loop. Dude, maybe I'll,

I'll figure out a way to loop it for you. That's my pipe piper song, bro. Not the pipe, but it's the fucking that dead thumb blues.

He's just playing it. Yeah, following them to whatever. The fuck, dude. Yeah. Until I'm broke or dead. All right, we got one more song to play.

This one, yeah. Another one of my faves. All right. So this is track nine. It's called Mushin' dog. Fucking Fucking sweet.

Yeah, really cool. out, bro. Mush and hound. Whatever the fuck that means to you, I think I know what it means. Yeah. It's kind of personal? I think so. Yeah, I think so, too.

Yeah, it's awesome, dude. I was just going to say, I think that this, this, this was never, okay, so, I don't know, I gather my thoughts here. Take a few steps back before you start to run. Let me just take them out of here. this was not recorded in a studio right like they only released this as the live record right like you can't hear these songs anywhere else no no you can't i was gonna say like that that this music to me is meant to be heard like this like this like live you know i know that we're

not there physically but like it just it just it just like it improves it like it makes it sound more i agree with you because like this type of music is so real and all like you know what I mean and like just genuine and shit and like that just comes across better when like you know that oh wow those guys are literally doing that live and there's people in a room

yeah hearing that and like feeling it and grooving on it and all that stuff man totally they're gonna go home and mush him out bro they're mushing all night I mean obviously he's he's trapped he's released quite a few albums you know this is the only one as far as I know that's recorded live like that

yeah good call quick because it would have been easy and I listened to some of his new shit, dude, a couple of his new songs, and that was cool. Yeah, I wanted to keep it to just city man. I mean, I will say, I mean, I think this kind of goes with the genre, but like a lot of it is kind of the same. Oh, repetitive, yeah, no doubt.

Absolutely. From album to album, you know, I mean, that's because he's sticking to us. I mean, it's just the blues in general. And the same way that IDM is repetitive to some people's ears here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Like, what is that daft punk? You know, like, in a way,

everybody's right or everybody's wrong it doesn't fucking matter right right right if you like it then it's a good thing because it's more of what you like yep if it's kind of repetitive in that way yeah it's not though because like i said i listened to two of his new song one called the dance and it was while you can tell it's still him it is different dude yeah his new stuff is great i'm excited pretty cool yeah yeah he just dropped an album uh in june yeah to try and carve out a special corner for yourself and that and that style of music is really fucking hard bro otherwise just the guy at the cool bar, Cafe racer or whatever the fuck on 6th Street in Austin,

who can shred. Right. I mean, it's been done before, right? You don't want to, we've had that Texas style. We've had the King,

SRV or, you know, or B.B. King, if you're in the Mississippi Delta, it's been those crescentos have been reached, I think. You've got to find something new. Or just be yourself,

which is what this feels like. It's the person, ultimately really being his self. Yeah. Which is so fucking great, dude. Yeah. Kind of rare nowadays, man, because everything's so produced.

Yeah, and he's been doing it for, for a long time now, dude. Yeah, yeah, I know. Yeah, he's got cret and Alkew. He kind of did when he was starting, right? He's kind of like throwing his name out there, but now he's been in it for decades. Yeah.

He's kind of the old traveling blues man. Yeah. Yeah, but yeah, something special about Cityman for sure. I mean, this album. Yeah, it's great. It's the whole thing. Yeah, all the way through it, it's fantastic. And it's dude, it's kind of, it's kind of, you know, disturbed.

I don't want to say disturbing, but like just makes you think about it when it's like that scene room, what, a month later? Yeah, six people died. My mind went to like, what if it happened during the recording? Yeah, it would be crazy. Every single one of them thought that probably. Like, that went through their head. Like, man, we're so lucky that we weren't there. There was not to take it keep it super dark, but that side project of home, Eagles,

not the side project, but Eagles of Death Medal, they got, they were in shooting in France, yeah, in Paris. That stuff's awful because people don't know what's going on. They're playing and people are like, what is that percussion or people don't fucking know. Didn't one of their merch, one of the people at the merch table got shot? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

At their merch table. That's what I heard. It made, it made that dude basically swing not to, I mean, whatever, it doesn't matter. Ultimately, he's going to grieve in the way he needs to, but yeah, he swung the other way really,

really bad after that. Did he? I don't follow that bit. Yeah, it sucks. Ah, shit. Anyways. But people deal with their own shit in personal way, so I shouldn't.

Totally. Trag him there. I've never been through anything and near that fucking level of trauma. Yeah, yeah. That's all I got, boys, short and sweet. That's great.

Good picks, bro. And I'm going to go back to that. That's a great one to put on in the kitchen, you know, or cleaning house. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, when you say in the kitchen, Mitch, you always talk about the restaurant. Oh, sure, or at home. Okay, I just curious. Or, yeah, or my ears when I'm cooking on the line, yeah, man.

Yeah, yeah, man. Or prepping, have some time to prep, put something in your ears. Totally. Get knock out some fucking peppers and onions. Whatever the fuck you're chopping. Well, cool, man. What a lones from shack, dude. You put that music on, you feel a bit better.

I know that dude is he's certainly going to get rotation in my life now and bring me back to that blues flavor. Like you said, I'm going to visit that Black Snake Mone soundtrack that's going to bring me back through. Because I know that's held up better than the movie.

The movie's probably pretty problematic in parts. Probably. Yeah. But the soundtrack was great in that. I mean, dude. Really good. I'm telling you. And you weren't wrong, bro.

When the Black Keys came out, I took that train ride. I did not get off for a while. I remember that. For a long time. And then I built pretty hard. so I'm ready to get back to that. And it's something a little more real, too.

Well, I haven't listened to all of Lonesome Shack stuff, dude. So six, no, seven full links. One, two, three, four, five. That's how you count, bruce. What a boss. Yeah. So if we go in the direction that I was thinking we could go on next, because I do think it's an interesting, not, it's not even a pivot.

I think it's a very, like, adjacent to this kind of stuff is this band called Days of the New. Don't even know. Oh, dude. Excellent. Excellent. Kew, this record was pretty, like, it was one of Spencer's CDs. He had it in his collection. There's a one song that you probably remember fondly, and it's probably their single.

But, man, this album, they're also titles, but like, yeah, we're probably going to cover the first one only. Is that this one? Huh. The yellow album, yeah. But, like, dude. I like when bands do that. You know, we're kind of just taking a dig at bands that the number of the song, whatever, but I do like when they're like, this is like Wheezer Blue or.

Yeah, that's kind of what it is. Needles, white, whatever. Yeah, it's stage of the new. People just refer to it as the yellow album, the green album, and the red album. Yeah. But anyway, it's like the perfect blend of like country and like twang and grunge. It's like really, really, really incredible. That sounds great.

You're going to get me hooting and hollering here, buddy. I hope that the gain is turned all the way fucking down. Get ready. These guys are phenomenal, man. Really good musicians. Great guitar work. Great harmonizing. I think you brought a song of there still

What you heard or something I did because I've been planning And I've been wanting to do a deep dive episode On this album for like Yeah it sounds like you kind of had that that up your sleeve Maybe a little kind of a real random But not so much random now It's kind of a split-rary

Now it's a perfect time to do it Yeah perfect time That's great let's keep going down that foresty path And I'd peep on the curtain I'm looking at his screen and those That cover art's enticing me It looks a little creepy in a way Maybe like a little off kilter

It does The tree A little dark which I'm very intrigued by You guys are phenomenal, man. You guys are going to love it. That sounds good, man. Well, it might be on a country change you for a while, boys, because if you let me take it after days of the new and it depend on there, boy, I'm telling

you. Dude, I'm all in now, brother. Invest in some boots so you can start getting them broke in, bro. It's like a baseball made. You got to fucking work them. You know what? I think what I'll do next is go back into the pearl snaps, okay? I think that'll be next.

My heart. It just grew three sizes. It's like the Grinch, dude. I used to love me a pearl snap, man. And Travis, you look sharp in a pearl snap, too. pal the long sleeve rolled up that was your move i do i got a short sleeve but the long sleeve rolled up that's my move son all right so i guess that i guess that wraps it up friends uh as always you can find us on the pantheon podcast network that is the home to many great music centered podcasts like ours

at pantheon podcasts dot com reach out to us on instagram at no filler podcast is the handle that is basically our inbox. So if you want to get in touch with us, reach out to us there. We're going to cover Days of the New. That'll be our next deep time, man. In between that, we'll have another What Youard for August. And yeah, I'm going to fade out with the first

track on Cityman from Lonesome Shack. This one's called White Lightning. Until next time, thank you, as always, for listening. My name's Quentin. And I'm Travis. And I'm Mass Potato, Johnson. Y'all take care.