No Filler Music Podcast - Whatcha Heard? The I Gotta Have More Tambourine Edition

Episode Date: February 28, 2022

On our second Whatcha Heard of 2022, we bring a varied mix of new alternative, doomgaze, pioneering synth pop, and much more! Join us as we jam to our monthly mixtape and conclude that more tambourine is ultimately what we need. Tracklist Khruangbin, Leon Bridges - B Side The Smile - The Smoke Green House - Find Home The 6ths - Falling Out Of Love (With You) Cryogeyser - Nature Spotlights - Xerox Yellow Magic Orchestra - Gradated Grey The Glands - Two Dollar Wine Land of Talk - Moment Feed Cocteau Twins - Heaven or Las Vegas Smashing Pumpkins - Appels + Oranjes Jupiter & Okwess - Telejayi This podcast is part of the Pantheon Podcast network. Thanks to AKG for sponsoring the show. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It's hockey season, and you can get anything you need delivered with Uber Eats. Well, almost, almost anything. So no, you can't get a nice rank on Uber Eats. But iced tea, ice cream, or just plain old ice? Yes, we deliver those. Goaltenders, no, but chicken tenders, yes. because those are groceries, and we deliver those too, along with your favorite restaurant food, alcohol, and other everyday essentials. Order Uber Eats now. For alcohol, you must be legal drinking age. Please enjoy responsibly. Product availability varies by region. See app for details. Welcome to No Filler. I'm Quentin. And I'm Travis. And we're kicking off this What You Heard with a brand new single from Cronbin and Leon Bridges. This song is called B-side. another

another track from Texas, just is your pillow. Waiting for your love. The place. All I'm thinking of just can't. Another solid track from Texas Native Skew. Yeah, what an awesome marriage of, of music. Yeah, so if you remember, back in 2020,

Kronkbin and the Umbrages put out Texas Sun, which was a little EP that had a, bunch of attention and a bunch of success. It was a great, great little EP, Texas Sun, the song, I think we played it on the show. Yeah. And we just talked about, you know, basically, you know, it was about, they were all on the road touring and stuff. And they were just, you know, the song was about missing Texas, right? So it was like a nostalgic, like longing for, for your hometown kind of feel. Yeah. So now obviously Texas Moon, the Purpose. perfect title for the follow-up. It's kind of following the same themes, right? I'm reading an

interview here on vulture.com. And they were asking the group, you know, what made you decide to join forces again? And Leon says, honestly, getting together with Kronkben and making music have been some of my favorite experiences as far as being in a studio. So it was just about getting back together with the family and making good art. And DJ Johnson says, also I think all of us being collectively from Texas, when we get in the studio with Leon, it's that same feeling that you have

when Thanksgiving rolls around and all of your cousins come over and you get to hang out with all your cousins. Leon is like a cousin. So it just sounds like a match made in heaven kind of thing. Yeah, that's great. And like, you know, if you're from Texas and you come across,

I mean, I've always lived in Texas, so I can't really speak to this. But cute, if you meet somebody in Washington and you find out that person is from Texas, don't you feel some sort of a connection to him or her? Yeah, in some way, yeah, it's there, you know, even if you didn't actually grow up together. Yeah, you've got that connection. You've got some sort of collective experience, you know. That's what it sounds like with these guys, you know, I think they tore together. You know, Leon is from Fort Worth, Cronkbin is from Houston, so.

matchman having them do they make such great music together i like this quote here from from bassist laura lee she says it feels really special to me it's not crongbin it's not leon it's this world we created together all right well that's a good way to kick us off here cue so this is our second what you heard of 2022 and if this is your first what you heard basically it's just a mixtape is what we like to call it monthly mixtape where we each bring five tracks to the table of music that we've been listening to lately. That's basically it, right? So it's just an excuse to listen to a bunch of tunes, hear a bunch of different types of music, at least that's the hope, right? Sometimes it's pretty consistent and similar, but I've got a pretty good mix. I think the vibes of mine all go really

well together, but I'm kind of all over the place, too, as far as, like, uh, era and, uh, genre. Well, I'm going to, I'm going to keep us on our toes a little bit here, Q. But I am going to kick us off because you, you kicked us off last month. So that's how it works, man, you know, fair is fair. Fair is fair. So Q, I didn't realize this, but back in May of 2021, this group, uh, put on a surprise debut performance at Clastonbury Festival, May of 2021, and released two singles this year. The band is called The Smile, and it consists of Tom York, Johnny Greenwood, and Tom Skinner, who is the drummer for Sons of Kimet, which is like a jazz group. So it's kind of like a super group. But basically, obviously, Greenwood and York of Radiohead, I almost don't have to

say that, right? But, you know, basically the music came out of a desire for Greenwood and York to basically work together during the lockdown. And yeah, and so they're going to put out a full length record produced by Take a Gasqueue. Oh, I forget his name, but... Nigel Goddard. Yeah, Nigel Goddrich. Awesome. Yeah, I didn't know about this. I haven't heard any of this stuff. Yeah, so of course the music is great because it's Tommy York and Johnny Greenwood, right? So yeah, there's a couple of singles out. I'm going to play the latest single, and this single is called The Smoke. It's cool to hear Tom York singing, you know, in a song that's nothing like Radiohead

otherwise, right? Like that bass line, that drumbeat. Yeah. And, you know, of course. Not something we're going to hear on a Radiohead album. Right. And, you know, there's plenty of Tom York music to listen to out there, you know, that isn't anything like Radiohead stuff.

So this is kind of more the same. But you've got Johnny doing the guitar on the bass and all that kind of stuff right there with him. But yeah, it doesn't really sound like a radio head song. I mean, their sound has changed quite a bit over the years, you know. Yeah, some of the stuff on Moon-shaped pull had, I think, like a similar kind of but it was a really dark album. And the two stuff that I've heard from The Smile is a little bit more. I mean, it's kind of all over the map.

You'll have to listen to the other single that they put out. It's called You Will Never Work in Television Again. And it's a little bit more like punk rockish. Some of the stuff that they played during this festival was described as math rock, which could be really interesting. Interesting. So either way. Yeah, something to definitely pay attention to and be on the lookout for,

is when the record comes out. I don't know if it has a release date, but again, there's two singles out at the moment, so check those out. But I love the bass line was killer, right? I actually said it kind of reminded me of a crong bin baseline. Yeah, it does.

Drums are great. But I love that switch that happens in that song where it kind of goes into this different part that's really kind of like soft and kind of like flowy, you know? Oh, yeah. They sort of how he snucked that in there. And I'm sure lots of things has to go to Nigel Goddrich.

You know, anything he touches is amazing. Still to this day, my favorite Beck album is C-change. All right, Q. I'm going to pass it to you. What's your first pick for us here? All right, man. So this artist I just discovered recently, she goes by Greenhouse.

It's actually just the music of Olive Artizzer. And I've heard one album of hers. It's called Music for Living Spaces. Most of it is instrumental. It kind of reminds me of, did you ever listen to that one artist? His name escapes me at the moment. But he had like that, it was like music for houseplants or something. Do you remember that? Yeah, I know, I recognize like I can see the album, my head. Wasn't it kind of like jazzy? Mort Garson.

It's kind of like, or like experimental? It's kind of like windy, what was the Tron, original Tron? Oh, Wendy Carlos? Yeah, kind of like Wendy Carlos stuff. But. Okay, so synthetic or synthesizers.

Early synthesizer stuff. Yeah, everything synthesizer stuff. Moogs. Yeah. This for whatever reason gives me the same vibes. And, you know, I listened to this. whole album and I got all the way to track 8 if I remember before I heard her voice and I thought I didn't know that she sang and this song just blew me away so again the artist is greenhouse

the album is music for living spaces and this song is called find home beautiful I love it man Beautiful, yeah. So it reminded me of Dolores Orrardian of the Cranberries, her voice. Oh, yeah. In some ways, but more so maybe like, I think this was last month's what you heard. I brought a song from this shoe gaze group called Ariel. And it had this really pretty breathy vocalist performing Stellatran. That's her name. Very ethereal. Yeah. And I love it when those kind of vocals are paired with things like shoegaze or paired with things like, you know, even stuff like massive attack has, you know, they tapped the singer from Cocktown Twins to perform on a couple of tracks. So anyway, yeah, good stuff, man.

I really. So that's called Greenhouse? Greenhouse is the name of, so actually, Olive is not. non-binary. So yeah, they, that's their, that's the name that they go by, Greenhouse. It's all Olive. And yeah, it says here, music for living spaces is a step forward for greenhouse. Artizoni states, the intention of this project is to facilitate the connection between humans and nature instead of perceiving nature as something that's separate from us or outside of our home. homes. We can recognize nature as something that is within us and in everything we do in our

daily lives. You don't need to have access to the great outdoors to feel connected to the environment. So yeah, you get this sense of like calm. It's very like meditative, like the majority of this album. And again, Olive doesn't start singing until track eight and there's only nine tracks. So like I wasn't expecting any vocals, you know, and when I when I heard them sing, like just beautiful dude like it just like stop me in my tracks yeah man that dude i'm all about songs that stop you new tracks and make you pay attention yeah that's one of them where it's like you have to you have to you know slow down and maybe that's kind of what they're saying this is about slowing down and sort of like taking in nature and stuff like that yep and that's you know that song

is something you can kind of like meditate to absolutely yeah the whole album's like that very cool so again that is greenhouse. The album is music for living spaces. And I'm going to pass it back to you, brother. What you got? All right, Q, well, last week we talked about Palaris and music that was featured on the Nickelodeon show, The Adventures of P&P.

Well, here's another track, Q, and that was featured on that show. Awesome. So I found a handy Spotify playlist that has all. all of the bands that have been featured on the show and the songs. Nice. So if you've been watching some of the early episodes, then you'll probably recognize this guitar riff because it shows up in like several episodes,

just this intro guitar. But here's the rest of that song. So this band is called The Sixths, as in the number six. And it is a side project by Stephen Merritt, which is the, the founder of the band, The Magnetic Fields, which I've heard of, but never really gotten into. So he did this little side project, and on this record, he wrote the music for everything, but only did, you know, he only, he only sang on one track. So he brought in a bunch of, like, guest vocalists

for the rest of the song. So this particular song that I'm going to play features vocals by a guy named Dean Wareham, and he is a musician and an actor who formed the band Galaxy 500 in 1987, which Galaxy 500 is, yeah, they're like a dream pop. Yeah, Shoegays group. So, here we go. So, as we mentioned, there are a lot of great Shugays acts and, like, indie bands and stuff like that that were featured on the Adventures of Pete and Pete, which is probably why we like that kind of music so much. Yeah, we just didn't even realize it. Early. age, yeah. So here we go. This song is called Falling Out of Love with You by the Sixths. There's always going to be a soft spot in my heart for like just that classic pop music, right?

Like, I mean, like music that's really been unchanged since like the 60s, right? Like since the Beatles. Here's the thing, man. We actually learned about this term when we were talking about beach fossils. Are you talking about Tweed? Okay, yeah. I love it, dude. I think. love that kind of stuff. Yeah, and it sounds kind of like the beach fossil stuff. I guess what I'm trying to say is like you can tell that a lot of dream pop bands from the 2010s were influenced by this style of indie music that was coming out in the 90s, right?

Yeah. It makes total sense. So I didn't, I'm again, dude, like I just said, learn something new every day. I learned something new every minute on this show. So obviously we talked about. Polaris extensively last week and how their music appears throughout the show. Apparently, a lot of music from this guy, Stephen Merritt, shows up. Not just this song, but songs from the magnetic fields and another side project,

which is, show up throughout the series. So there you go. So it's, it's, you know, safe to say that the creator of Pete and Pete Will McRob was obviously a fan of this guy's music too, right? man will must have like such love probably still to this day for that show because you mean think about it that was probably one of the last times he really got to have that much control over a show that he created yeah and like we're kind of assuming that that he handpicked every song I mean maybe not but we know for a fact that he approached Mark mucklehy of of Miracle

Legion right you know and then that's how Polaris came to be. So we know he was a fan of this kind of music, right? So it's not a stretch to think that he picked a lot of the songs that appeared, right? And this song just heard it for the first time now, the falling out of love with you, the song we just heard, it feels nostalgic to me. I can hear it and I can picture Pete and Pete, and it's perfect.

I mean, you'll hear it now, dude. Yeah. You'll recognize it in a bunch of scenes. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, so again, that song was called Falling Out of Love with You by a band called The Sixths. That's great. I'm passing it back to you. All right, man, I'm going to bring some, I guess you could call this bedroom pop, maybe.

You know, we like to throw that one around a bit here. Dude, bedroom pop is making a huge comeback. Yeah. Or has it ever left, right? That's the real question. I don't think it has, man. So this is a trio, three-piece from Los Angeles. They go by Cryo Geyser.

And what I like about this stuff, so it is kind of like that kind of dream pop, I'm not dream pop. It's kind of like that bedroom pop kind of vibe, you know, DIY kind of sound. But like there's a little bit of a grunge, slightly shoegazy vibe to like, the tone of their guitar and the riffs. Anyways, really good stuff, dude. I just got into them, so there's a lot of releases from them that I still need to dive into.

But this is an album of theirs from 2021, so just last year, called Time Tethered Together. It's actually all one word, but Time Tethered Together. I'm going to play track three off the record. record. This song is called nature. Want more of it? Dude, I'm a sucker for a well-placed. Tambourine or shaker or whatever the hell is.

Oh, yeah, dude. That's when I was hooked, man. Dude, anytime I hear that, when it's well-placed like that, immediately, you know, you've got my attention. Yeah, yeah. Then on, you've got my attention. And I can't believe I'm going to bring up this group again, but I was getting some strawberry switchplayed vibes.

And that's an 80s group, right? Yeah, is that played? Yep. Yeah. Totally. And they were more of like a duo, right? Yeah, it was just two. It was two singers, yeah. Yeah.

So this is a one person, singer-songwriter? No, dude. It's a whole group? It's a trio. I said that earlier. Okay, okay. Usually when I think of bedroom pop, I think of one person. Yeah.

Okay, so cryogenesis. Cryogyser. Cryogizer, yeah. cryo geyser yeah dude that's great and a lot of these songs are like I said a little bit more on the on the grungy side like this one's the more okay the more uh upbeats not the right word but well now you got my full and undivided attention you got me you got me because I like that song a lot if they're also throwing down grunge tunes then I'm all about it there's some like it's like, you know, jangly guitars mixed with like a little more grungy kind of riffs, which is

really great. Grunge is making a comeback, man. All right, man. Pass it back to you, sir. I think that's a good segue. At least us talking about a slightly heavier type of rock music. I'm going to do a 180 a little bit here. Is that the role that I play for what you heard episodes?

You play it really well. So this band, we actually talked about and featured them on our DoomGaze episode. So I've been listening to them pretty extensively lately because they're just amazing. So it's this group called Spotlights. I played a song called Under the Earth off of their 2017 record Seismic on our Doom Gaze episode. And I'm going to play something off of their next album called Love and Decay. So let me give you a little bit of a background real quick because I don't know how much I touched on kind of who these guys are.

But it's a husband and wife duo, which I didn't realize. It's a guy named Mario who plays guitar, synths, and vocals, and bass player Sarah Quintero. That's almost you and your wife's name combined to you. Sarah Quintero, bass guitar, she also does background vocals. And then they have a drummer that joined. but they're just really great, man. And as we covered extensively on that episode, Doomgaze is what you think it is.

It takes the elements of doom metal and combines it with elements of shoegaze. And it's amazing. And really, that's all you need to know. I mean, what's not to like about those two genres? Exactly. So here we go. This song is called Xerox.

That is what I'm looking for in a DoomGaze song, man. I don't think it gets any better than that. for me like you know like because i'm not historically i don't i don't really listen to a lot of metal right this like yeah this brings me in just the right amount of level of like metal and it's and there's great shoegays vocals and uh i loved the the the drumbeat and the the bass uh kick the kick drum alongside that bass guitar man it was great really good Yeah, no, I think you're right. I think, you know, and we kind of talk about this.

Early doom gaze was almost more like, like noise metal almost. Right. It was like an offshoot of that kind of stuff. But more modern doom gaze bands like these guys and some of the other ones we talked about, like Pincey Schlow. I really liked them too. You know, they seem more like, oh yeah, I hear it. I hear the doom metal and I hear the shoe guys elements combined, right? I think that the, the early term, like when it was applied to groups, you know,

that was like a term given to these groups. But these newer bands are purposely doing it, right? Like that's what they're out to make, doom metal with shoe guys elements, right? Yeah. And these guys, yeah, like he said, dude, you could look up if they needed a song to play on like the Wikipedia page for Doomgays like this is perfect right? Definitely.

Because you, yeah, you hear it and you get it immediately. Yep. And let's credit the drummer because like I said, the band is, you know, this husband and wife duo. But on that particular record, the drummer is named Chris Enriquez. So they don't always have the same drummer? I think they pulled them in on a couple of tracks.

Okay. On seismic and maybe worked with some other drummers here and there. Cool. Because like, you know, this is mostly a project between the two. The husband and wife. Yeah. Anyway, if you love that, which you did, Q, go listen to seismic all the way through and then listen to Love and Decay all the way through.

Done. It is amazing. Like, it is one of my favorite records probably. Awesome. These two of the last probably a couple of years. So anyway. Yeah. So, Doomgaze.

I feel like this is a good gateway into metal for you, Q. Just going to put that out there. You know, some heavy stuff. I've been dipping my toes, dude. All right, Q, where are you going to take us from here? This always falls on you to either keep it going or give us another 180, because typically from a 180, you have to do another 180. I think it's going to be a happy medium, dude. Okay.

And I'm bringing, so I've brought up this group before, and I find myself revisiting their albums quite often. So they're considered like one of the pioneers of synth pop music. And most of their releases early on were early 80s, like 81, 82, 83, very active in the 80s. Yellow Magic Orchestra is the name of the band. I don't know if you remember. I brought a song of theirs, when we had dad on the pod. I brought a song of theirs. I don't remember which one I brought.

Most of the track names are in like Japanese script, but anyways, I revisited one of their albums from 81 called BGM. And, man, they're way ahead of their time, dude. 1981, keep this in mind. Oh, crap, no, I'm not bringing one from BGM. I did listen to BGM, but I'm not actually bringing a song because that re-listening to that album made me want to dive back into their other stuff. So, anyways, I, so I revisited an album with theirs from 1981 called Technodelic.

And I actually found on discogs, they have the names of the tracks translated. So this is track seven on the record. The song is called gray-dated gray. So, yeah, like they were, you know, all that stuff was right around the corner, you know. Right. As far as, like, the synth-pop stuff. Yeah. reminds me of like Gary Newman stuff.

Yeah, from album to album song to song, it's all very different, like experimental and weird. Like this one's the most like structured song, really. I mean, every now, you know, every few songs will be a little, you know, easily digestible, but other songs on, on these records are just really out there. So again, that was Yellow Magic Orchestra. That song was called Gray Dated Gray. I'm going to pass it back to you, brother.

Where are we going now? Okay. This, I feel like I've said this before about a group. And like, it's kind of a weird statement, but like this is a group that I'm still not sure where I land on them. As far as like, it's like, do I like this or not? I've heard, you know what, the last time you said that about a band, I think I took it back immediately. Yeah, I felt. I was in love with the song.

Yeah. Oh, that was, you know, that was for? That was for guerrillas. It was from that guerrillas song. Little Green Men. I still can't get enough of that song, man. Betty Dreams of Green Men. That's amazing.

Anyway, so this group, this is an interesting little snippet that I read on them. This is their Spotify bio. There's a band called The Glans, and they're a 90s group. Now, listen to that. They're from Athens, Georgia. With the Athens, Georgia music scene receiving national press from the likes of REM and the B-52s,

members of the glands knew that they wanted to create something their hometown was known for. So instead of having a sound that resembled laid back college rock or racked-out party rock, members, and then they listed all the members, I'm not going to go like that. The band shaped more of a darker,

laid back Brit pop style that doesn't cross the line of dismal or brooding. So I thought that was interesting because we're... Who are we talking about next week? You're talking about R.A.M. And their very first record. So these guys, I guess,

wanted to make some music that was different from some of these other groups that the Georgia music scene was known for, which is this particular person listed out R.A.M. and the B-52s. But anyway, I feel like this This song that I play, I was torn between two different songs, but I'm going to play something off their first record called Double Thriller.

I can hear some of the 2000s era indie rock being sort of like, this is sort of like maybe the precursor to it. So here we go. This song is called $2.00 wine by the glands. Keep in mind, this is 1997. just a good time right yeah kind of took me places i wasn't expecting it to yeah right and like the harmonizing right there in the in the uh that was giving me some beetles like two dollar wine that was giving me some beetles vibes that's the brit pop thing that that i was talking about earlier

but what i was reminded of was at least vocally of the french kicks which is a artist that we covered yeah back in uh back last year but you know that's 2000s era garage rock stuff right but um yeah they're kind like you said it's like it's kind of like a mashhip of a bunch of different stuff at least that song is in 2000 they came out with a self-titled record and there was a couple tracks i was wanted to play from from from that era but that is you know they almost start to sound more garage rocky and they even had the word the in front of their name so they were right they're ready to go dude with all those other bands and that's just in time man just in time but yeah so i mean they you know they had been around since the 90s mass

great mid-90s but anyway so again that band was called the glands that song was called two dollar wine off of their record double thriller and i'm going to throw it back to you cue what else do you got for us all right man you're going to love this one so this is a artist her name's elizabeth powell but she has a project called land of talk you know i did i'm not even going to give this a preface Let's just play a song from a little EP of theirs. I say they because she does bring in other artists or other members for this project. This is just a little EP and according to the internets, there will be a full-length album coming out shortly. So this is a little EP called Calming Night Partner.

this song is called moment feed. The drum line and the bass line. Yeah. I love those kind of driving beats and whatnot. Love her voice too, and she finds me of Please tell me, because I'm trying to place it. Stevie Nix.

Yeah, man. I was like, yes, she has a very classical, classical is other words. She has just a timeless like rock. female rock vocalist voice, which is great. And yeah, we've talked about this during our 2021 best of episodes, how female-led groups are just dominating indie music right now, or at least from what I can tell, from what I'm hearing and stuff like that.

The majority of my favorite records from the last couple years have been, you know, female-fronted groups. Yeah, and then the, you know, I think the majority of our picks for the best of 2021 were, yeah, the same thing, female-led indie groups. So, yeah, man, I'm all about that. That's great. What a great song. So I'm going to read up a little bit about this EP. And again, there's a full-length coming.

But I like this right up here. It says, that strange dissociative marriage of sound and words sums up the alchemy. of calming night partner. The music creates a safe harbor where painful and traumatic experiences can be safely explored. It's a familiar mood in the post-COVID era. Powell is using seclusion and privacy

to build up a sense of self that the outside world seems intent on destroying. And she says, we were recording in the middle of the pandemic. Everyone was struggling, and all we wanted to do when we were in the studio was just be friends and be there for each other. The studio wound up being our safe house.

I like the thought of that, dude. You know, being in a group and just coming together and the studio becomes like your home, your safe space, you know. Yeah, totally. So I can imagine that they, you know, they put a lot into these recordings and had a lot of fun recording. So I'm, yeah, I'm excited, really excited to hear a full length coming up. I'm not sure exactly when it's coming out, but it should be sometime this year. So again, that is Elizabeth Powell in her group Land of Talk. That song was called Moment Feed.

And coming around the pipe, dude, it's your last song. What you got? I've got the perfect segue from that. So I even mentioned her earlier in the episode. I have been listening to the Cocktow Twins quite a bit. Oh, she's got a new song coming out, didn't she? Elizabeth Fraser? Yeah.

Yeah, she does actually. Latest release, Tales from the Trash Strait, I'm all I'm going to have to cue that up. Yeah, I just read about that. Well, that is not what I'm bringing today, but that's good to know. So anyway, I mentioned her. She appeared on some massive attack songs. I think I actually played one of her tracks that she'd appeared on as of what you heard a long time ago. Anyway, but yeah, so like the Cocktow,

They're kind of this iconic sort of, I don't know if they're, they probably have a few labels on them, but I know that shoe gaze gets tossed around. I don't think they're really like a traditional shoegaze type of band. I think they're more dream pop, which as we know around here is two sides of the same coin, right? But what makes them stand out is obviously her vocals, right? So she is known for having this like operatic like ethereal voice. And I'm going to read this from their from one of their bios here. She relies less on any recognizable language than on the subjective sounds and textures of verbalized emotions.

And to me, that's the best performers, vocal performers are the ones who use their voice as an instrument, right? Oh yeah. I love it. where you can't really, I mean, Brett Daniel of Spoon, I know that's kind of a random thing, but we know he does that sometimes, right? Can we just say real quick, dude? Yeah, New Spoon album. Amazing.

New Spoon record is my favorite music of theirs in a long time. Same. As far as, like, their new music. I've listened to it like three times all the way through already. We'll have to do an episode at some point. Yeah. I had to just squeeze that in there. Yeah, of course.

Yeah. Anyways, sorry. I'm glad that you snuck that in. but anyway um so yeah i'm gonna play a well you know one of their more well known songs but i have not like i can't get this song on my head dude it is so good so this is from their 1990 record heaven or las Vegas and this is the title track here we go it must have been great to pick up that album when it first came out and hear this stuff like you know because that was still in the early stages of

of this sound like evolving. Yeah. And maybe you hadn't heard some of the earlier stuff too. And like this is that your introduction to her as a vocalist. You know, because they had put out several records prior to that. And then a lot of their stuff like I tuned in to a little bit of their record that came after that called Four Calendar Cafe.

And it's more of the like ethereal type stuff more like beautiful type, pretty type song. And her vocal is perfect for that. Like when I think of cocktow twins, I think of like more dreamy stuff. And it's Robin Guthrie's like reverb-drenched guitar stuff too, which starts showing up. And he's, he's one of my favorite ambient musicians.

He does a bunch of, yeah, just guitar focused ambient music. His tone and his reverb, especially when he paired up with Harold Budd, which is this other ambient piano. guy who I think passed away the last year or the year before. Anyway, some of my favorite ambient stuff. That's, dude, you want to talk about it untapped and possibly not a type of genre that we could really go into

for this podcast, but you and I both love some good ambient music, you know. I feel like we got to be choosy about the kind of ambient stuff that we play for no filler at least. But anyway, so yeah, cocked out twins. You know, if you know them, you know them,

I feel like, and that's probably a song that you're familiar with, but anyway. Great, great track. Yeah, that song is called Heaven or Las Vegas. And Q, what do you got to bring us home? I'm going to close us out with a Smashing Pumpkin song. I feel like it's a, you know, it's a good transition from Cocktow Twins. Yeah, well, I forgot to actually bring that up. One of the things I think DoomGaze does, or at least that song that I played,

it reminds me of some of early smashing pumpkins. I should say Billy Cogan's guitar work. Yeah. Which I always thought that I'm not alone in this, but I mean, Shugaze has been brought up as sort of like a sound that you can hear from the early Smashing Pumpkin stuff. Absolutely.

They're not a Shugays band at all, but I mean like his guitar, the reverb specifically and like the psychedelic type flare that some of his early stuff had for sure, you know. Yeah. evokes Shugays, right? So I feel like some of the, some of the doomgays groups kind of nod back to that. I feel like definitely, definitely.

Yeah. So this is an album of theirs that came out right after Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness. The album's called Adore. Came out in 1998. And it was a big letdown, apparently, to a lot of Pumpkins fans because they lost the drummer, Jimmy Chamberlain. He left the group. So it's got different vibes, you know. It's like not so much that classic guitar, bass, and drums rock stuff,

which is how Billy Corgan puts it. He says, he says the idea was to reconfigure the focus and get away from the classic guitar's bass drum rock. And that's, you know, mainly because they lost their drummer, right? But I really, really enjoyed this album. this song I've probably listened to like 30 times in the last couple months, dude. I love this song.

I love the lyrics. So we're going to jump down to track 8 on the record. This song is called Apples and Oranges. Yeah, great track. I can see why, if you're a Smashing Pumpkins fan, how this would throw you off a little bit. Especially right after melancholy. Totally different. Up to this point, you know, they had a little bit.

a little bit of grunge in them, right? Right. But grudge was over by 98 anyway. And, you know, they, this is when, you know, they started using, like, the synth pop stuff and, like, Gothic, like, gothic rock kind of stuff, right? Yeah. But, like, the band was, the group is struggling by, around this time.

Well, yeah, like, dude, I don't know if you, if you, if you, this is what you were referring to, but Billy Corgan actually characterizes the record as being made by a band falling apart. So. Yeah. Yeah, it's a little shaky at that point, but... Yeah, but, you know, Corgan's... Corgan as a vocalist, I feel like,

is compelling enough to, to carry a record almost, I think. I mean, he's got such a unique voice. There's nobody that sounds like him. And what I've always liked about him is, like, how his, his vocals, like his sour vocals, right? Yeah. I think that's a word that I used on our Gish episode. his voice is such a good contrast to the type of music that they make.

And I love the subject of the song. So there's a contributor anonymous on genius.com that puts it this way. Apples and Orange just touches on the age-old subject of metaphysics. Is reality what we perceive in our day-to-day experiences, or is there something else to it that is beyond? the experience of our sense organs. And the verse one, what if the sun refused to shine?

What if the clouds refused to rain? What if what is isn't true? What are you going to do? Like, what if everything you knew about the world was totally false? Well, yeah. You know, right around the corner, dude, was the Matrix asking those same questions.

1999. Man, maybe the writers of the Matrix was... Oh, I bet you they were fans, Vakowski sisters. I'm sure they were huge. Is it Vakowski or Wachowski? I don't know. I have no idea. The whole album's great, dude.

You know, it's got these vibes. You know what? You know what this is, man? And I can't believe I'm about to bring up Bush alongside Smashing Pumpkins. But this is like 16 stone and then coming out with... chemicals between us. What was the name of that album? The Science of The Science of Things.

The Science of The I like that record. I love that record too, man. I really like that record. Me too. But yeah, you know, same thing. Like, War Machine. It's a great song. The opening track. There's a lot of great songs on that record.

Yeah. Yeah. Maybe we should cover it. Dude, that'd be fun. That would be interesting. When did that record come out? Came out in 99. I would want to dive into it, you know, and really see what was up.

Like the music that Grunge bands put. it out after grunge was over even though you know hey i know 16 stone a lot of people would not classify that as grunge i hear you but what did those bands those rock bands that were you know writing on the coattails of grounds or whatever what did they do after grunge was over that would be a great smashing pumpkins was doing that would be a great album to kick it off i think you know we'll have to talk about this off the mic yeah well anyway well there you go cute that i feel like that was a solid collection of what you heard's right there. Absolutely.

Like, that was a good. Some good tuneage for sure. It was a good, yeah. At least I liked it. I don't know. I don't know if anybody else liked it, but I did. Anyway, so yeah, next week, we are going to talk about R.E. And their record murmur.

I have not visited this album in a long time, so I'm even more excited. There are plenty of great songs on here. So this is going to be tough to know. narrow it down, but I think I can do it because I know for a fact, I have a few songs that we have to play. So, yeah, I'll get the tunes picked for this, for this record. And Q, if you want to refrain from listening until next week, then we can get. Oh, I can do that. Sort of a hot take. Easy. But, yeah, so next week where you're going to talk about REM's very first record, Murmour, came out in 1983 and then I don't know where we're going to go from there but we'll figure it out

hey we have a we have an outro song don't we cue that that was provided to us by a listener uh I'm going to call I'm going to call Sid a dear listener at this point dear yeah he's a dear listener we've we've been chatting with this guy a bit uh he actually shared a really awesome I think we read we may have read this on on the show but he showed a really great my bloody Valentine experience that he had in 92 in Houston, Texas. He saw them play with Dinosaur, Dinosaur Jr. in Houston back in 92. But anyways, he just reached out to us again with a group called Jupiter and AQuest. This is an Afro-pop band that to me is very reminiscent of that Zamrock stuff that was

happening in Zambia, Africa, back in the 70s, like that psychedelic rock that found its way to Africa and then it just kind of exploded. This is like the next evolution of that, I guess, I could say, because this is a brand new album. Again, the group is Jupiter and Oquess and Aquest. I don't know how to say that. So an album came out last year called Nacazan. manga and it's great man afro pop really good stuff uh he says first track is a banger the whole

record is killer um and i reached out asked him hey what's you know if you could pick which one of these songs would you want to do for an outro and we're going to go with the first track so um thank you sid for reaching out and sharing sharing a track with us this is what we're hoping for we would love to share songs from our listeners as our outro pick for our watcher heard so reach out to us on instagram that's the easiest way to get in touch with us at no filler podcast is the handle uh you can also email us no filler podcast at gmail dot com let us know what you've been heard and uh yeah we'll share the track on our next watcher heard which will be next month also you can find us on the pantheon Podcast Network, that is our home and home of many other great music-centered podcasts.

You can follow the network at Pantheon Podcasts on Instagram or check us out at pantheon Podcasts.com. And as always, we would like to thank AKG for supporting the show. And yeah, that's going to do it for us today. next week is going to be REM's Murmur. And again, we're going to fade us out with a song by Jupiter and Oquess. This song is called Telajahi. And until next time, thank you, as always, for listening.

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