No Filler Music Podcast - What's Our Age Again? No Filler Goes Back To School & Jams Out To Blink-182

Episode Date: May 11, 2020

We kick off our batch of episodes devoted to our awkward teenage years with a look at a band that sings about boners and dysentery: the one and only Blink-182 and their 1999 record Enema of the State. And while the juvenile lyrics, addictive melodies and fast-tempos certainly appealed to a younger crowd, it was perhaps their music videos that catapulted Mark, Tom, and Travis into the mainstream stratosphere. Whether it was streaking through the streets of L.A. in or poking fun at the boy bands that shared the TRL spotlight, the trio was a pretty consistent fixture on MTV's Total Request Live, and solidified Blink-182 as the adolescent kings of pop-punk rock. Tracklist Blink-182 - What's My Age Again Blink-182 - Aliens Exist Blink-182 - Going Away To College Blink-182 - Mutt Blink-182 - Adam's Song FEWS - The Zoo Pile - Prom Song This show is part of the Pantheon Podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We've been a band for almost nine and a half years and when we first started day one, Mark and I had diarrhea of the mouth. It's so bad, but now there's people watching us. But the thing with MTV and with the radio, we've always seen songs about girls, love, and just teenage angst. So you have these, just 90% of the people that bought our record that might not have ever seen us before. They'll learn their lesson after this tour. I mean, they'll come see a show and have no idea what kind of humans we really are. But we've been this way forever. I mean, all the punker kids knew it.

I mean, but those shows were only 400 people, and they all had Mohawks and blue hair or whatever, but now you have fans. It has to do with a Mohawk here tonight. Yeah, we'd love it when the Punker show, a little credibility. Wow. I took her out.

It was a Friday night. I woke alone to get the feeling right. We started making out, and she took out my pants, but then I turned on the deep out the time she walked away. And welcome to No Filler. The music podcast dedicated to sharing the often overlooked hidden gyms that fill the space between the singles on our favorite records. My name is Travis.

Got my brother Quentin with me. And we got our Jansport backpacks on today, Q. We got our, we got our pudding packs. And we got our, I got my trapper keeper. Do you have your boots, tie? Boots tight tight. I mean, I hope that today I don't get in a fight. Why is that, dude?

Because we're going back to school today, Q. I got my lunch packed up. My boots tied tight. I hope I don't get in a fight. Oh, back to school. Back to school. Back to school. So, if you didn't listen to the last couple episodes,

where we teased what this is going to be exactly. Kee, why don't you tell them what we got in store for the people? Yeah, so we just a few weeks back started a list of bands that we were listening to back in high school. And we realized that most of those bands actually released albums during our high school years. So it's not like we were just listening to The Beatles or Zeppelin or something like that because that's boring, right? Because nobody wants to hear the Beatles or Zeppelin. Nobody wants to hear the Beatles. Why would they hear, where they want that when they could hear playing going it to?

Dude, let me tell you something. There's way better. Careful. Podcasts in this network. There's way better podcasts in this network if you want to dive into some Zeppelin. Let's not tell ourselves too short. We might do an episode on Zeppelin at some point and it'll be what it is, you know. It'll be us talking about Zeppelin.

But, you know, we're not going to be able to tell you anything that you don't already know about so, right? Yeah, but right now, dude, we're going back to school. We're going back to school. And I think that we can bring some artists to the table here, aside for maybe the one we're talking about today, that you may have never heard of before, music styles that you may have never given a fair shot. And we'll, you know, we're going to basically have lots of nostalgia between the two of us in the next few months for sure. It's going to be heavy, man, like real heavy. Some of these bands I haven't listened to since high school, or at least close to it. That's right.

So we're starting off with Blinkwin-82, and I think this is a great way to ease us in here, because we've been hanging out in the 90s the last few months. And the album recovering is their third studio record, Enema of the State, which came out in 1999. And this is, I'd say, our first dive into pop punk music specifically. I mean, aside from when we talked about the history of emo music and talked about Jimmy World, which, you know, it kind of comes from punk, right? And so like one of the branches off of punk is, is in like hardcore is emo, obviously. I don't know if we've talked about punk. at all, really?

I may have, well, I may have talked about it a little bit when we were leading up to our strokes episode only because, you know, I was talking a lot about quote unquote garage rock. Yeah. Which definitely has a lot of the same like aspects where it's, you know, power chords or,

you know, super simple melodies and verse chorus, verse chorus kind of stuff. A simple melody. See? Exactly. You're jumping the gun, man. Yeah. So I guess, you know, I don't think we've devoted a full episode to a

proper punk band. And obviously we can argue whether or not they would be a proper punk band and what that means. But as far as like we were concerned when we were 12 years old, this was punk rock and we were rebellious for listening to it, right? Which is hilarious if you think about it in retrospect. But that's what makes Blink22 so interesting is that they were, you know, they catapulted into the stars, if you will, with their appearance on, you know, TRL, MTV all the time.

They became, you know, the face of punk rock and became so mainstream. It's hard to say if any punk band has received that kind of attention. since then, you know. I mean, they were just jai goddamn normas. Yeah. They were huge in the early 2000s, early early 2000s, right after Inima of the state came out. And with the help of the music videos that they were in, an MTV, yeah, they really did

which the tippy top. You know, it feels like it was one of those like perfect storm type moments where like all of the pieces were there for them to be successful. I feel like if it wasn't for MTV, they probably wouldn't have been as successful because of how crazy that music video was. You know, and it's pretty tame in retrospect. They're just running around the streets of L.A. naked, you know. But that kind of antics, you know, is perfect for MTV. So they were probably number one at some point, I'm sure, on the TRL top 10.

Oh, yeah, dude. Right alongside corn, you know. and probably Jennifer Lopez, Britney Spears. That's the brilliance of it, man. We're jumping again, but that's the brilliance of it. Because remember all the small things, they were making fun of boy bands. And I bet you they were sharing that list with actual boy bands, you know?

With Backstreet Boys. Yeah, dude. Anyway. Yeah. So, yeah, this is our first episode in our little Back to School segment. Most of the bands we're going to be talking to after talking, I wish we were talking to, talking about going forward, will be, you know,

2000 or later during our high school years. This band, however, we were into in our middle school years. So we were still, you know, pre-pubescent, you know, little punks. Pretending to be punks. We weren't punks. Yeah. But this allowed us to pretend like we were without even having to dye our hair, you know? Oh, we dyed our hair.

Yeah, but that was different. That's like highlights. Okay. It's not like we did blue hair. Yeah, but I spiked it, man. Sure. I spiked all of it. That's tame.

Well, hey, dude, I feel like that's a perfect definition of the kind of punk that Blinkin 82 represents. Tame. Yes, absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. So I was diving into the history of punk and it's just like, I don't want to spend a whole episode on it. So I narrowed it down to just pop punk specifically. That's where these guys.

fall under. And what that is is basically, you know, structuring your songs in the basic verse course verse using simple chord progressions, catchy melodies, and really like, I don't know, the lyrics are super lighthearted and more like, I don't know, about easy stuff like teenage romance and like growing up and like, you know, going against your parents and shit. as opposed to like the really like political heavy kind of lyrics of typical punk rock. Yeah, like the, the, you know, rebellious, like the sex pistols, anti-government, anti-Black Flag, anti-Corporation.

Yeah. Yeah. And that's the thing. If you're a hardcore punk fan and you've been with the movement since it started, Blinkoin 82 is not a punk band, period. Right. Pop punk is not punk. I actually have a quote here, Q, from John Leiden of the sex pistols.

Is he talking about Blenka-Nity-T? He was asked to comment on them. I was looking for stuff like that, man. I was craving it. This is a searing indictment. Lay it on me. Basically, he just said it like this. It's just a bunch of silly boys and imitation of a comedy act.

Okay, but here's the deal. Blink Winquinated 2 would be like, yeah, dude. But he gets us. Right, exactly. So that's another thing I wanted to talk about. Like, and I don't know if you, do you get any more to talk about with the history here? Like, how did we get to Blank? Well, it kind of started with the Ramones or around that time in New York in the 70s,

where it, like I said, it became more about writing short and sweet, catchy tunes on the more like lighthearted side as far as the lyrics go. Before that, it was all about going counterculture. Before punk, you think about like bands like ELO or Pink Floyd, you know, or yes, where if you weren't like a decades old musician, you know, like classically trained or whatever, you weren't going to start a band, you know? And so there was like a separation between. the musician and the audience. Punk was all about getting rid of that wall, and then that's when CBGB opened up in New York in the 70s,

and they were just letting anyone basically who said, hey, we're a band, we would love to be heard. They'll let them up on stage. Before that, if you weren't tied to a record label, you weren't going to be playing a show. So that was a big part of it was, you know, punk became, more about, hey, anyone can fucking do this, you know? Yeah.

Dude, you want to talk about, and it's funny that you just said that, like, anybody can do this. That was probably one of the reasons that we latched on to blink when we were 12. That's exactly when we picked up the drumsticks and the guitar, you know. Right. How easy was it to start playing blink when I do songs. Super, yeah. Well, shit.

Let me not say that for drumming because, you know, Travis Parker. I know, man. Travis Parker's, we talked about this. last week when we talked about Post Malone's Nirvana tribute and Travis Parker wrote's behind the kit. Like he's one of the best drummers of all time, easily. Easily. And yeah, but for the guitar, I mean,

simple power chords, somewhat simple guitar, easy, little single note picking kind of guitar melodies and stuff. Really easy to pick up if you're a beginner guitar player like I was when I was 12. So yeah, I mean, that was kind of the beauty of it. Anybody could get together and, and do, and that's the essence of punk rock, right? So, yeah, and we started to see a change, like I said, started in New York with the Ramones.

And then just a bunch of bands started popping up in California in the 90s. And that's when punk or pop punk broke into the mainstream. Bands like Green Day, the offspring, Blinquinated 2, these are all bands from California. And yeah, they created that formula. and, you know, turn it into a more lighthearted, you know, upbeat, more, you know, poppy kind of music stuff. You, that could make its way to the radio. Before that, punk was nowhere near the mainstream. Yeah.

So that, this seems to happen with, with all genres, right? Like, it starts in the underground, like, you know, with the small pockets of, of the scene, wherever the scene originated. and then it makes its way into mainstream and just kind of becomes almost a parody of itself, you know? Right. And, you know, that was the case with heavy metal, obviously time and time again, with Metallica especially,

as far as like the heights that they achieved and the mainstream success that they achieved, right? But yeah, I think Blinkpoint 2 and Green Day too, right? Duky is probably the first pop punk or punk band to to sell as many records as it did. Yeah, so Duky came out in 94. They sold 10 million copies. Yeah. And that was also around that time is when punk was starting to find its way onto larger, you know, mainstream record labels or record labels that they started themselves.

But again, a lot of this was coming out of California. And with Blinkoinated, too, it was about, you know, lighthearted, fun, raunchy, teen angst kind of lyrics with power chords and fast tempo songs. Do you want to play a song, dude? Let's go ahead and play a song. Let's do it, yeah. There's quite a few songs on here that we could play. There's only two singles, right? What's My Edge Again and all the small things?

And Adam's song, too. Oh, and Adam's song. Yeah, and we'll talk about Adam's song for sure because that, that is a standout track on the record and has got its own kind of legacy. Yeah. Separate from this record's legacy. So, yeah, we'll talk about that too. Yeah, dude, let's play the first song. And, dude, not that we have to say this, but you and I could recite these lyrics, you know, without even looking at the lyrics.

Oh, yeah. I know these songs inside and out. What do you want to start with, dude? well I mean we typically go in the order of the record so do you want to do don't leave me else do aliens exist all right so here's what I like about this song um compared to most of the subject matter on the record is that he's literally talking about uh some experience he had when he was grown up uh Tom who wrote the lyrics and he's talking about like you know conspiracy theories and aliens and like the CIA you know is is is is lying to us and the lyrics are presented

in a in a very basic dumb down way but it's not they're not talking about girls they're not talking about diarrhea they're not talking about dysentery and all the other stuff that they sing about like they're talking about something you know kind of cool if you like x files like i do then you can get you can get down with this you know yeah i always like this this song too and dude So I wasn't aware of this, but you told me a couple weeks back, Tom is now chasing UFOs. Is that correct? Here's the deal.

We haven't even named off the roster, but we got Tom to launch. Do we have to? Everybody knows Mark Tom and Travis? No, we'll do it. No. It's Tom DeLange on bass, Mark Koppas on guitar, Travis Barker on drums, and Tom and Mark alternate singing. That was Tom singing.

So they have two very distinct voices, which I think has always kind of helped with the appeal of Blink because Mark has a very different flare than Tom does. So you get a lot of different varieties in the way that the singing sounds throughout the records. Personally, I've always been a fan of Tom's. No, not Tom. I've always been a fan of Mark's voice over Tom's. Really? I like him both, dude. It depends.

That's the beauty of it is it wouldn't be Blink without. both of them. And it's not like I hate songs that Tom sings. And I just like Mark's voice. Tom has got the very distinct way that he sings and the way that he, like he has, this accent that he kind of throws on to songs that's very distinct. But anyway, yeah. So that's the roster.

What I wanted to say, yes, so what you said. And this has been in the news lately because one of the reasons that he left Blink for the second time was to pursue this full time. Like he is a, basically he's a UFO researcher now. And he, from what I've read, I haven't read too much into it. But he is a part of this group, I think that he maybe founded or joined that is essentially trying to get the government to release information, right? And over the last few weeks, I think we've all read the stories, right?

That the government has confirmed about this. I think, I want to say this is the same, I might be wrong about this, but I think this is the same tapes or videos that Joe Rogan talked about with some guy on the Joe Rogan experience. These three videos that show mysterious objects in the sky containing audio of pilots trying to make sense of what they were seeing. So basically the Navy or the government came out and said, yes, those tapes are real and yes, we classify them as UFOs.

Not meaning aliens, obviously, just meaning unidentified objects, right? But anyway, so he is a member of this group. along with some other members of, you know, the defense, previous members of the defense, stuff like that, that sort of, you know, try to get information, basically. So anyway, it's funny because, you know, when you Google this, you'll read headlines like Tom DeLange of Blinkornay 2 might be responsible for proving that aliens exist, which is the throwback to the song, right? So it's kind of funny, but it's like this whole full circle thing.

He's been thinking about this stuff his whole life, basically. Well, yeah, and when I, you know, listening to the song when you're, when you're 12 years old back in 99, I just thought it was a funny song. Like, you know. Yeah. The whole idea behind aliens existing. Dude, I mean, when did, when did Independence Day come out? I feel like that was probably around that time. Probably.

90s were all about the new age, like spiritual kind of stuff. We were used to it, you know? Yeah, so listen to this here. So I'm reading it. There's a interview that. he did with the New York Times. And they're asking him like, hey, you're a musician and you're known for outlandish stage behavior, including sometimes being naked.

How did you get people to take you seriously? He basically says that being a celebrity helped get some doors open as far as like having conversations with people as far as like trying to be taken seriously. but he's saying that his intellect, whatever level it may be, may or may not be, is what he says, is what got those meanings to bear fruit. So I thought that was interesting. That means that he was able to basically get the door open and have conversations with important people because of his celebrity status. But they wouldn't have taken him seriously if he didn't have research and material to back it up.

So he's, you know, he didn't go in there and take his clothes off. obviously right so he was able to based on his research and stuff and his intellect as he says get this foundation started and all this kind of stuff so anyway uh the reason i say that is because i was listening to some interviews recent interviews of mark and Travis and Travis is always kind of more quiet anyway that's always been yeah he's infamously quiet yeah yeah but mark you know he doesn't really come off like he's got much to say okay I hate to say that but But anyway, when you listen to the lyrics of the 22 songs, I mean, he didn't need to say anything deep, obviously, with these records. But anyway, all right, enough to talk about aliens.

But, yeah, it's just really funny that Tom wrote a song called Aliens Exist over 20 years ago, and now he's getting answers for the people. More power to him. He's trying to prove to us that aliens exist. So, anyway, let's talk about Travis a little bit here. Okay. Unless you want to – actually, you know what? Let's play another clip. Let's play our next song.

And then we'll talk about Travis. Because I found out some stuff that, I mean, my respect level for Travis has always been super high. But now it's even higher after reading some of this stuff here. Awesome. Well, dude, this is one of my favorite songs on the record. So this is the next track. It's track four. This is called Going Away to College.

That might be the perfect blink right into your song. As far as like, it really does incorporate everything. that makes a blink song a blink song you know what I mean I love the lyrics dude like thinking back to being in middle school and listening to the songs like this it's fucking perfect for for that yeah because that was like our language really well yeah and that was something that we were like looking forward to like going to college and stuff and it was so like yeah grown up you know and like we looked up to go to college yeah that were that age and we looked up Or even high school kids in 99.

Right, right. Well, so, I mean, and, you know, we could still relate to some of those stuff. Like, you know, is my picture still hanging in her locker? You know, if Young Love is just a game, then I must have missed the kickoff. Can't tell you how many times I sad-sacked myself with thoughts like that back in the day. Mark is quoted as saying, that's the thing about our lyrics. Yeah, they might be specific to high. school or college, but the things that happened to you in high school are the same things that

happened to you throughout your entire life. You can fall in love at 60. You can get rejected at 80. Yeah. So that's the thing, man. If you, if you, uh, dismissed Blinquenated 2 simply because of their lyrics and you just thought, oh, this is just a band that's only trying to relate to high school kids or middle school kids. Well, then you're not paying attention. Yeah. Well, I mean, if you, plenty of people who are in middle school or high school have much worse problems to deal with than some of this stuff, right? So not everybody is going to have the experience of like, oh, my biggest problem today is that, I mean, I'm nervous about asking this girl to the dance or whatever, you know what I mean? Right. But so here's what I read, some stuff that I read about.

And this is what I've always wondered about bands that clearly write for an audience that is teenagers, right? Adults that are writing for teenagers. Here's what Mark had to say about their lyrics and stuff like that. And he was referring specifically to the Mark Tom and Travis show record. The concert, specifically that that was like recorded. And they sing a bunch of songs about all songs. sorts of wacky shit, right? Fulgar stuff. And he said, you just know that parents are hauling

their kids out of our shows going, you'll never listen to that band again. And then he says, that'll make kids want to listen to us more. It's our cunning plan for world domination. Critics don't get it, but kids do because we talk exactly like they talk to each other. Yeah. We don't put ourselves above the kids. We are the kids. So they knew exactly what they were doing the whole time, obviously. Well, and that's kind of like with that intro clip that I played, Tom was like, you know, we've had Diary of the Mouth always in forever since we've started hanging out as friends. Like, and, but now we've got people that are paying attention. So, like, people are coming to our show for the first time because they picked up this record. And, you know,

we're fucking around and, and cursing up a storm in between each song. And they're, and they're just finding out, like, who we are as human beings. Like, You know, we're just a bunch of fucking punks from San Diego, you know? Yeah. And, you know, in particular, what maybe makes them not be the punk rock band that writes about anti-politics, anti-corporations and all that stuff, is that they actually grew up in a middle-class suburban, you know, Southern California area. So they didn't have the problems that some of these people, some of these people.

these other punk rock bands had. They didn't have the, they didn't grow up in the environment that some of these people grew up in, they grew up in, you know, a very cush kind of life, you know what I mean?

Right. They had a good job. Middle class suburbs. Yeah. Here's another, here's a quote from Delange, from Tom. Nobody calls them by their last name.

He says, the Californian middle class suburbs have nothing to be that bummed about. So there you go. Yeah. So that's why they're, that's where their subject matter is so, juvenile.

You know. Right. Right. But hey, dude, what better way to start our back-to-school stint? You know what I mean? Yeah. So pitchfork, we've talked about them before. I've actually come around to them.

It was the articles that they were writing back when we had our music blog that just seemed to be written just to piss people off. Yeah, it really did, man. I mean, because you can, you can totally see. And it's probably just they've hired better writers, is my guess. But anyway, they're doing a thing. I don't know how often they do it, but they revisit classic records. And the rule is it must not be something that they covered previously. Like they didn't cover it when it came out.

They didn't have something in their archive devoted to it. Right. So they wrote an article on this. I think it came out this year. Let me verify. So as we mentioned, intimate of the state came out in in 99. So it received a lot of attention last year

because it was the 20th anniversary, right? Yeah. And they did a tour where they played just the album and yada, yada, yada. Right? So it got a lot of like, in the amount of the state 20 years later, like a lot of those kind of articles are written about it. Pittsburgh did one January of this year

before, you know, the world went to shit, cute. Anyway, he said, and this is kind of, I like the way that he phrased this. Talking about them before and like leading up to the end of the state, what they began doing quite well and to excess was simple. Record the pouty concerns of middle class kids in a plain spoken language they could understand set to addictive melodies and played at moshing speed. So there you go. Pouty concerns of middle-class kids.

That must have been you and IQ because we were all over this shit. Yeah, dude. And we had a good childhood, man. We did. Yeah, I mean, we had our typical issues that some kids probably have to. But, you know, we didn't have to struggle for anything. Negligible issues, man. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah. So, yeah. Anyway, we didn't really talk about what, about that song in particular to me what I like about it and probably what you like about it too. I love that shift that happens in the chorus, I guess,

when it kind of shifts into I haven't been this scared in a long time that shift that happens. I love that. I love the breakdown in the middle where Travis kind of does a little, what do you want to call? You're the drummer.

Tell me what he's doing there. Hang on, what are you talking about? Let's play it. This part. It's kind of like, like the drum roll kind of thing, like the marching kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah. The thing that he's doing there.

And yeah, you know, with most of the songs, like he's just got these great fills that he throws in. Oh, yeah, man. You know, that's what he's really good at. Yeah. And that's what elevated their music beyond what they were doing with their first two records. Because their first two records, they had a different drummer. Yeah, Scott Raynor. Scott Rayner, yeah.

So here's something that I learned about Travis Barker, Q, that I didn't realize. apparently, even though he didn't receive any songwriting credits on Inam of the State, he arranged all of the songs on that record. Selected the tempos, organized the flow of like the verse chorus and the breaks and all that stuff. So that right there where we talked about that bridge, that's probably something that came from him, which is amazing because I mean, he deserves a lot of credit for probably getting them to the success. best that they had. So lyrics and melody still come from Mark and Tom?

Yeah, but he kind of organized. Hey, we'll do verse, chorus first, we'll do this break. Cool. Come back to the chorus. That kind of thing. So that's a big deal, you know. Yeah. So he was a member of the Aquabats, another punk band when he joined Blinkly 2. And I've got a quote here from

the singer of Aquabats. He says, without Travis, Mark and Tom would have been, at best, a lukewarm poser pop-puck band. A couple of, listen to this is hilarious, dude. A couple of hot dogs wiggling around in a bucket. That is amazing. And it's awesome. But anyway, obviously, what he's trying to say is like, Travis is responsible for blink becoming blank. And I agree with that, dude.

I mean, really. Yeah. A drummer, it's amazing what a good drummer can do, right? We know that Beatles aren't the Beatles without Ringo. You know, we know that. So anyway, all right, dude. Let's talk about our last track here. And this is actually one of my favorites on the record.

I don't know why it is, but maybe after hearing it. I don't even know what song you're going with here, dude. Mutt. Okay. Cool. Toward the end of the record. All right, here we go. Some of you may recognize that from the American Pie soundtrack.

That was featured on that movie. But yeah, I just love the vibe. It's got a very like, I mean, as does the whole record, really, but it's just got this great summertime vibe, dude. Just like, you know, we probably, I know I've listened to this record in the car driving around in high school, you know, over and over again back in the day. And it just reminds me of better times, you know? Simpler times, man. Simpler times. And this song in particular, for whatever reason. And the lyrics are really funny, too. So Tom wrote the lyrics for this one.

And he says here, it's a song that he wrote about his friend Benji, a professional surfer who has sex all the time. His name's Benji, but everyone nicknamed him Mut. And it's just a song about about a guy and a girl who like to have sex and who don't really care about much of anything else. So that's what it's about. And like when you look at the lyrics, they're really funny. One of the lyrics that always stood out to me was

he took the seat off his own bike because of the way that it felt. I just think that's funny. You know, and like, he wants to bone, this I know, she is ready to blow. They go out every night, his pants are super tight.

It's just funny stuff, man. It's about a couple of a couple of jokesters who like to sex all the time. You like to sex. They like to sex it up all the time. And, you know, he says, they're, you know, I like this too. They've often, they've typically been starved for attention. Yeah, I like that. She's open waiting for more.

Now, when I was a kid, I don't know if I put all of, all this stuff together. Oh, I put it together as far as what it's about. So hang on. Now, is Tom making fun of this guy? Is this like a fucking pop your collar kind of dude, bro? It's a surfer dude. So this was a roommate of Tom's professional surfer who has sex all the time. That's it.

That's what it's about. You know, that's the thing. The beauty of Planky Planet 2 is there's nothing to these lyrics, you know? Right. I've always liked the feeling of the song I connected to better times. Not the lyrics. I just like the vibe of the song. It's got a very like carefree vibe to it.

And I like the way that they structured the song. We talked about the drumming was really great. The way that they have sort of the breakdown again, they do that really well. They do these like bridges. And as I said earlier, that's probably all due to Travis and the way that he arranged these songs, you know. Right. That's awesome, man. Yeah, I didn't know that.

And the bass line was really great too. Yeah. You know, anyway. So yeah, what a perfect way to segue into Adam and Eve.com. Talk about sex. Well, there's no place better. Get all the materials you need, all the tools you need to spice it up in the bedroom. Let's just put it this way, dude.

That guy didn't have to take the seat off his bike. You could have just gone to Adam and Eve.com and picked out a nice, toy. You don't need to do that, dude. Go to Adameneep.com. You can, you can get all sorts of stuff. Yeah. That's going to feel way better than the pole that's sticking up out of your bike that the seat sits on.

If that is, in fact, what they were talking about. But yeah, dude, if it is, you can get that toy for 50% off right now, man, if he uses the no-filler promo code. Hell yeah, you can't. And then for his lover, who's open waiting for more. he can get a free gift for himself in addition to that gift that he bought and he can get one for her or him and maybe he's swinging both ways nowadays who knows whatever he wants man what else can he get for free he can get six free spicy movies dude to really get things going in the bedroom these sex addicts they don't know what they've been missing

Not only that, he can also get free shipping. That's it, dude. There's nothing else to get. That's it. There's nothing else that he wants. That's it, man. So that's Adam and Eve.com. Enough about this guy.

Anybody can go to that website, use that promo code, and spice it up in the bed. It's time to get spicy, dude. Courtesy of the two of us. You're welcome. You're welcome. All right, dude, let's talk about Adam's song. Do you want to play a little bit of it? It is a single, but let's play a little bit of it.

Let's play it because it's such a different song, and the subject matter is a much more serious subject matter than the rest of the record. So yeah, let's play a little bit of it just to remind people what it is. If you were watching TRL or paying attention to popular music in 99 or the early 2000s, you've heard this song for sure. You've probably seen the music video. Yeah. So yeah, let's play that. Quick side note, dude. you know the drumbeat he hits a little splash symbol oh yeah i bought a splash symbol because of the

song yeah that's awesome yeah Travis barker is he is the reason i became a drummer this album is the reason i started drumming i mean it's probably the same to say that that that's why i picked a guitar and i remember us practicing and playing this song together yeah i remember that and i remember thinking it was so cool to like try to match the reverb that he has on his guitar. Like, you know, I think I had my first amp was like a Berenger, like a little tiny Beringer amp that actually had some built-in effects to it, which was kind of cool. I wish I still had that thing, man. I really do.

Yeah, the thing was badass. Anyway, um. So let's talk about the lyrics, dude. Um, this was a really important song for me. Yeah. Like, yeah. This is about, okay, it's basically a suicide note. right? Yes. Now, I was nowhere near suicidal back then, you know, and I honestly, I don't,

didn't know anyone like really well, like I wasn't friends with anyone that, at least on the outside, that, you know, that I knew was suicidal. So I couldn't connect with it in that way, but I knew what it was about and I knew how important a song like this was at the time. Yes. And so basically Mark wrote the lyrics for this one. It's a metaphor. Adam, this person, Adam, it's a metaphor for his depression that he experienced while on tour with Blink 192. So he says that Tom and Travis always had girlfriends waiting back home, so they had something to look forward to at the end of the tour, but I didn't.

So it was always like, I was lonely on tour, but then I got home and it didn't matter because there was nothing there for me anyway. Yeah. So I don't know if he necessarily got suicidal, but he wanted to, you know, express how depression made him feel. And this is the result of that. And the lyric that always stood out to me, which was heartbreaking if you think about it,

the very last, or at least the second verse, you know, into the first verse, it's, I'm too depressed to go on. You'll be sorry when I'm gone. Into the second verse is,

please tell mom this is not her fault. Yeah. That's a super, very deep, very depressing, thought, but that's what you write down. Like, hey, this is not, like, you know, suicide notes. You want to make sure that nobody thinks that they could have done anything to prevent it, you know?

Here's what makes this such an important song, especially for teenagers who were super into blink and were, you know, flipping through the booklet of lyrics that came with this album. The very last rendition of the chorus, they flip it from... past tense to future tense. It's basically him overcoming the depression and realizing that there is a reason to go on. It's not that tomorrow held such better days and I can't see any better days ahead of me. It's that tomorrow is going to hold much better days, days that I can still feel alive. I can't wait to go outside. Yeah, and that's important too because like, you know, you remember

leading up to that change, there's that piano that gets added to the song, which is really interesting. They add a piano. Like uplifted and kind of things are looking up. It's great, man. That always stuck with me, dude. Always. Here's the thing. So this is, apparently, I didn't hear this at the time, probably because we were too young, but in 2000, a year later, well, I guess it wasn't exactly 2000. It was shortly afterwards. Anyway, after the Columbine High School shooting, this song in particular was playing in the bedroom of a kid named Greg Barnes.

When he hung himself, it was playing on repeat. Now, he was a friend of somebody who died in the Columbine High School shooting a year earlier. So I'm sorry It was playing in the garage He hung himself in the garage His parents came in and saw that And Adam's song was playing on repeat on the stereo Which is insane to think about

But it means that You know The song connected with people The intent of the ending of the song Was obviously to try to flip it And and try to remind people That there's better days ahead and stuff But obviously

You know Some people were were too depressed and we're connecting with the song in a different way. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, anyway, like I said, you know, this song has a legacy of being more serious than the band itself, right? Yeah. Taking a topic like suicide and throwing it onto a punk rock album about, you know,

jacking off and diarrhea and all that stuff. So it's interesting. But, you know, that's what makes it. able to as successful as they were on TRL, they can go from a video of them running around naked to a video of them tackling a subject matter like depression and suicide. So yeah. And you know what? That kind of points to the importance of punk rock reaching the mainstream.

And like later on, emo music reaching the mainstream because they do tackle this kind of stuff. Yeah. Emo music especially. Yeah. It talks about just when you read the lyrics and really break down what they're talking about. It's juvenile stuff, man. You know, like, mostly it's about breakups and, oh, you know, I'm so upset about this relationship or whatever. We're going to be diving into an album that is heavy on the breakup material.

Oh, my God, dude. I can't wait to talk about that. But in a beautiful way, yeah, dude, I'm excited to. Yes, that's going to be a great episode. But no one knows what we're talking about right now, so who cares. let's move on. We're just excited, man. Yeah, we're excited about the bands to come down the pike here.

Yeah. Well, that's it, huh? You know, honestly, with this album, we could have played every single song on the record. Yeah, and we talked about it too, because the songs are usually not even three minutes long, you know? Yeah. Those are a handful of our favorite non-singles.

If pop punk is up your alley, this is a defining album for pop punk music. and it you know it kind of in a way sort of defined defined a generation yeah in some ways I mean not it defined a certain sect of of so here's the here's this stood out to me this is what this record is Q so I read a one of those other you know look back articles from Kerrang dot com and the author called it a masterclass in polished bullshit nice and that's a great way to put it because the polish part of it yeah i think comes from Travis barker honestly that's his

drumming elevates this record oh yeah to something way more than just a a simple punk rock record because when you go back and listen to dude ranch and listen to the single damn it it just sounds way more amateur yeah it does you know and it wasn't even that much earlier yeah and obviously there's a there's a lot of credit has to go to, you know, the producer of Enema of the state. Let me look up his name. How is this not?

Oh, Jerry Finn. Produced the record. You know, and he is known for, what's you know for? Oh, Green Day. Yeah.

So, when you go from Damon to the state and you introduce the producer, Jerry Finn, who did Duky, along with a bunch of other stuff. He took it? Yeah, along with all the Duky's taken. He also produced Duky. I feel like our middle school days are back, dude. Well, see? I got that toilet humor, dude. Yeah, when you listen to McQuay 2, you start making Duky jokes. So that producer really took a

nice steaming pile on Blink, and they were better off for it. He left his mark for sure. He left his skid mark. Yes. Well, let me quote someone else real quick. I don't even know who wrote this. I just copied it and pasted it into my notes. He said, these three snot-nosed San Diego punks bottled suburban angst and distilled it into bright shiny pop songs that might as well have been state issued to every American teen. Yeah, that's a perfect way to sum it up for sure. Anyway, all right, dude let's wrap it up um let's let's do our what you heard what have you been hearing the what you heard segment where we talk about what you heard any kind of song that we listened to since the last

time we spoke um i can go first go ahead all right this is actually kind of stem from a what what i've watched what have i watched i've talked to you about this queue privately it's a show called devs and it is on FX, written and directed by a guy named Alex Garland, who is known for Ex Machina and Annihilation, two of my favorite films. Ex Machina is probably one of my favorite sci-fi films of all time. This TV show is now probably my favorite piece of work from him, and one of my favorite TV shows now of all time. It is amazing. It's got Nick Offerman in it of Parks and Rec fame. He played Ron Swanson. But it is not a comedy.

It's a smart cerebral sci-fi about a tech company that is building a mysterious piece of software system. That's all I'm going to say. I don't want to give away anything. Curiouser and curious. The music is amazing. It's by the same duo, these two composers, that did Ex Machina and did Annihilation. They have this really amazing way of kind of throwing in these stings, you know, like a music sting. And they bring the A game again.

But on top of that, the music itself that is played throughout the series, separate from the score, right? So they've got like, and that's funny. This must be something with Alex. He must really like Crosby Steels and Nash because he played a song on, Annihilation that I think is a Crosby Stills Nash and Young song. And then on this TV show, he plays Winnevere, which is one of the songs that you and I talked about on our episode about Crosby Stills and Nash. That's one of our early episodes if we want to go back and listen to that.

So I was just listening to the songs. And I came across this band that I had never heard of before that really were pretty interesting. This song in particular that we're going to play. It's called The Zoo, and this is a band called Fuse, F-E-W-S. And it sounds very much like a Interpol type post-punk garage kind of sound, right? That kind of angular guitars. But the rest of the record is kind of shoegazing.

So they're kind of a shoegaze band, but they've got that, they've got this sort of angular guitars of like an interpull, which make them really interesting. So anyway, again, this song is called The Zoo. It's by a band called Fuse. That's fucking great, man. Yeah, man. It's really good. It's great.

You said that a lot of their music is a little bit more ambient? A little bit more shoegazy. Okay. Is it lyrical, though? Yes. Cool. Yeah. I like that.

But what I liked about the first track was, it's instrumental. And it sounded a lot like that song. So I was thinking the whole record was going to be like that. It's not, which is fine. They have a great sound regardless. But it's very, it kind of reminded me of dive, one of the bands that we talked about.

I think that was on my top 10 of 2019 list last year. So anyway, shoe gazing, but they've got that post-punk flare, kind of like the editors or, you know, pole. Yeah. Black Party, you know,

the way the guitar is sounding. Right, right. So yeah. I love it. Anyway, good stuff. All right, Q, go check out the TV show, Dez, if I'm not ready.

I'll give it a war. Yeah. All right, Q, what you got for us? All right, dude. Have you heard of a band called Pile, P-I-L-E?

I have not. So, I'm just going to get cut to the chase, dude. I don't know where they fall under. They're a little bit, post-hardcore, I don't know, kind of like a stoner rock is the right word, but kind of like a jam band. I don't know, dude, I'm rambling here. But he, the, the guy's

vocal delivery is really interesting. It's kind of like, I don't know, lazy. I don't know. Let's just fucking listen to it. This is an album of theirs from 2012. It's called Dripping. And the song I'm going to play is called Prom Song. Yeah, it's really good, man. Um, You just know that those guys would put on a killer show. Oh, yeah. Like, amazing show. There's not much, like, overproduction on that. You know what I mean?

Like, that's a band. That's a rock band. You know what I mean? It's a band that could just probably jam for hours and just spin gold. All right, man, let's wrap it up. All right. Where can they find us? So you can find us on our website, no filler podcast.com.

where you could find all of our previous episodes, along with show notes for each episode. But you can also find us on the Pantheon podcast network, which is a network of like-minded music podcasts. Basically, it's your one-stop shop for any and every type of musical content you could possibly want. Dude, let me tell you what I'm excited about, man. This guy just joined the network like last week. It's a podcast called Sample Excavator, where he dives into sampled sound in music and kind of pieces together the history behind sampled material in songs.

That is cool. Yeah, dude. All right, that's it. Enough talking. This is the first episode in our Back to School set list of episodes here. So we got a lot more. A lot more whiny bullshit coming your way. If you really want to get down to it,

because that's the kind of music we were listening to. Yeah, dude. And we got to wrap it up because I'm about to be late to history class. Yes, that's right. That bell's about to ring and knew it. Don't want to be, don't want to be tardy to the party. All right, Q, that's that. My name is Travis.

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