No Jumper - 03 Greedo on Snitching Allegations, Coming Home from Prison, Drakeo's Death & More

Episode Date: July 14, 2023

Adam and Greedo reunite for an exclusive interview about his case and his life since he was released! ----- 0:00 Intro 2:30 03 Greedo speaks about when he thought he was getting out of jail in 2038, ...and going on Parole 4:20 Adam asks about the difference between jail in California and Texas 7:35 Adam asks Greedo about the snitching allegations 10:15 03 Greedo introduces a friend who was in the car when he got caught, the story of getting pulled over and getting their car searched, DENIES ALL SNITCH ALLEGATIONS 14:40 03 Greedo talks about how life was prison, and explains how the lawyers helped him get out on parole 17:00 Adam talks about how snitching has become a huge issue in hip hop, how Greedo’s comments aren’t comparable to people like 6ix9ine and Gunna 18:50 03 Greedo calls Katie Qulaenbush and gives her a statement about Greedo’s case and explains the paperwork 1090 Jake “exposed” 25:00 Katie claims the police officers hid footage of the arrest and were denied attorneys when arrested 27:00 Katie says the police officers racially profiled Greedo and co-defendant, and were stopped because they are black 31:50 Greedo asks Katie why the police pointed a g*n to his head and says Greedo never said anything he was accused of 39:30 Adam asks Katie if she really sh*t a homeless man, and says it was in self-defense 40:00 03 Greedo talks about being angry about his allegations of snitching and claims his entire hood is behind him and believes him 46:50 Greedo says once people have allegations it’s hard to get out of that, even if proven innocent 48:00 Greedo talks about the difference between the Internet and the street politics 49:40 Lil 100 comes into the pod and gives his take on the Greedo case, says Greedo never sat down with a DA 53:40 Adam asks Greedo how he feels being sober 56:45 Greedo talks about how the world has changed since he was in jail, and how things changed in his hood 59:00 Greedo says he feel disrespected and wants to get back to making music instead of dealing with this drama and the state of LA Hip Hop 1:03:50 Adam asks Greedo about proposing to his girlfriend at his last show and breaking up with her 1:06:10 Trill enters the podcast and gives his opinion on the snitching allegations, Adam asks Greedo how he felt hearing about Drakeo's death while in prison 1:09:00 Adam asks Greedo if other artists have reached out or avoided working with him, and says the police video is on the way 1:12:10 Greedo speaks on the rise of Desto's brand while he was in jail 1:13:20 Adam asks what Greedo has planned for new releases, and says he’s got new music coming out ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No jumper. We need you, though? You don't have to. Coolest podcast in the world, and we're finally back with the man. Yes, sir. I'm just going to put this in perspective, is that on my fridge, since my kid was born, I had three rappers, three photos of rappers on the fridge. Juice World, rest in peace, X, rest in peace, and O3 Grito.
Starting point is 00:00:23 Yeah, that's my God. I would always take my kid and hold her up and look at it, and I'd be like, all right, these two, we're not going to get to see them. This guy, he's going to be out soon. I'm going to be able to introduce you to him. Actually, I didn't say he's going to be out soon because in my mind, it was like, oh, I'm not going to see him for 10 plus years.
Starting point is 00:00:42 Right. So it is kind of surreal for me to be around you, just having expected that we weren't going to see you for so much longer. Exactly, exactly. I'm happy to be back. Yeah, man, no doubt. Because it goes way back with us to the very early days of Melrose.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Yeah, early days of my real, like, up. Yeah. So that's why I still rock with you heavy, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, no, definitely. Outside of this. Yeah. So how's life?
Starting point is 00:01:06 How's it been getting back to normal? Been good, you know what I'm saying? Right back to work. You know what I'm saying? It's all type of stipulations and loops I got to jump through with still being on parole to like 2038, but I'm still on the Texas parole here. So it's kind of like walking on eggshells type of shit. Right, because when you first got out, it was like you were stuck in Texas.
Starting point is 00:01:28 and they weren't trying to let you leave for a while? Or I couldn't really tell what was real. No, you just got to get transferred, you got to get transferred. So I had to wait until I got an interstate compact. So that's how I'm on Texas parole in California. It's just like the parole out here is babysitting my real parole. Okay. So how often you got to check in?
Starting point is 00:01:49 Every month. Every month. And you can't be smoking weed or anything? Can't be doing nothing, really. You can't do anything. I don't know. Is that fraud? Your lifestyle up a little bit, or is it all right?
Starting point is 00:02:01 No, I'm cooling, really. I'm cooler. It is what it is. Just trying to get it. You know, I still got action at getting off of parole through, like, this shit called a habeas corpus. Right. It's kind of like an appeal for you, even though you took a deal.
Starting point is 00:02:17 You know what I'm saying? So I got a lawyer for that and supposed to take care of that. So hopefully I can just get that situated because the details behind my case is really like they haven't been exposed, but it really was a lot of going on. Okay. And can we just go back in time a little bit to you sitting down? And how many years in were you when you started to realize, like, oh, shit, I might be able to get out of here earlier than the people thought?
Starting point is 00:02:44 I really didn't. Oh, at first I thought I just was turning myself for a flat 20 because the time is different now, your matter of fact. Right. And then when I got there, I'm like, damn, you know what I'm saying? But I'm like, maybe they got some type of work program. some fire camp like they got in California but they didn't though so when I got my paperwork when I got to the prison there I'm like damn I see the release they say 2038 I'm like what
Starting point is 00:03:09 the fuck like that's when it's sitting in like damn you you you you just left from paradise and you in prison yeah the long way you're in a whole other state it's hot as fuck like what is this like so uh somebody was uh showing me how to paper looking, another date said 2020. And then, no, another day said 2027 as my other release date and then another day said
Starting point is 00:03:36 20 20. And it said, that's your projected date to see parole. So I have 20 years non-ag and they have 20 years ag. It's two different ways that they sentenced you in Texas. Right. So with ag, I would have to have at least 10 and then they'll start let me see parole every year. But with
Starting point is 00:03:53 non-ag, after my second year in jail, I got to start seeing parole. They did denied me twice, and then the third time I got to get out. And what was the leverage that you had to tell them that you would be safe being out on the streets, so is there anything in particular you had to do to show them that you were on good behavior or something? I mean, you got to stay out of trouble because in Texas they write you up and they call it a case, and certain cases can stop you from making parole or certain shit like fights
Starting point is 00:04:22 or whatever, whatever. It's all the type of shit that can just add up and fuck you a parole. Right. What was it like being that, I'm sure, being locked up in L.A. is way different than being locked up in Texas? Yeah, it's way different. It's just a whole, it's like, it's like a whole other world. It's damn near the, it's not the opposite, but Texas prison system is kind of behind compared to California. And you're not getting, like, to the access to the music or, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:04:55 I think they don't even, haven't even had phones. in Texas prisons for that long, like more than 10 years. I've watched a bunch of prison, like, Texas reality show. And it definitely seems like they're more hardcore out there than they are in most states. I don't know about more. I mean, when you're in jail, it's like, fuck.
Starting point is 00:05:14 You know what I'm saying? It's more like you mentioned was out there. So either way, it was fucked up for me just coming from, you know, where it was lovely. My life was turning up. But, like, prison system is just, different. It's just, it's not even the same structure. Somebody that got life can be in the cell with somebody who gets out tomorrow. Because I remember that night, because you were in the
Starting point is 00:05:37 studio with Dub, Pump, Purp, Uzi, I think, that's the list of people. And I remember just a mansion that pumps mansion. Yeah, I remember hearing about that from Dub and realizing, like, that was the exact environment that you left up out of it to turn yourself in. Like, you missed a flight. probably weren't really trying to make the flight and just like you're in like the greatest state that you could be in and like your music career literally had just been soaring upwards for like a couple of years there at that point and then just at the height of all of it
Starting point is 00:06:08 maybe at the best studio session or at least the most star-studded studio session that you'd have and all of a sudden you got to go no now I'm sitting in a fucking metal room cemented metal. Yeah, I don't know if I missed a flat on purpose or not I think I was so like numb, I was just floating, like, whatever life taking me, like, whatever I'm... I don't even know, bro, I was like, that shit, that shit, that shit sucked.
Starting point is 00:06:37 That shit was... That shit. That shit. I heard it. To just come from, like, becoming who I wanted to be. Even now, like, I know we're going to get to it, but even now, like, all the shit playing with my name, like, after what I really went through, it really, like, oh, shit. And then I want to react so many different ways.
Starting point is 00:06:55 but it's like, man it doesn't trick you out your spot game too so it's like God damn so just mentally I'm trying my best to stay
Starting point is 00:07:10 level headed and grounded strategic strategic okay I don't want my temper to fuck up my strategy you did because there's people associated with the recent
Starting point is 00:07:31 Hold on, hold on. Okay, yeah, let's just talk about it. What, like, so was this something that you ever thought was going to be an issue, or is this something that totally just blindsided you over the course of the past a few weeks? It totally blindsided me because in my situation, which is even with the young lady that worked on the case that became viral was trying to put out there, is, I haven't had a platform to talk about my case, so even when all this is cleared up with the videos and all shit,
Starting point is 00:07:58 like, people don't know. I just went through some shit where I almost got killed and everything, you know what I'm saying? So it's just like, what the fuck is this shit? Like, there's some paperwork they play with because I don't have my discovery yet. I want to make sure I could have came here with some paper that somebody gave them. But I'm like, bro, we need to know everything all at once, drop it down. But what we came here to do is clarify what we're talking about and what we seen and what we heard about how all my homies pulled up with me. and they in the lobby ain't nobody
Starting point is 00:08:32 or no grape saying this and all that that's not what's going on and I'm trying my best not to do too much of the back and forth with any individuals that are playing on the internet because that's not what we represent
Starting point is 00:08:45 over here in my section and that ain't gonna do nothing but I mean that's like telling on whoever you beefing with her I don't know it's like a whole web but like being in this situation with quote unquote street individuals
Starting point is 00:09:01 was just like mind boggling. But hell yeah, like, nigga, on grape, like, it's mind-boggling because on grape, I ain't say that. Now, on grape, I can't, that, oh, yeah, shut the fuck up in the back of the car.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Now, that's, what the fuck? But then they have a nigga say it in his way and saying, oh, well, you know we got some, man, that's so on baby low crypt stop playing with me. Like, yeah. Like, man, come on, bro. Like.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Because it's not a recording. It's basically just like, what a cop wrote down that you said. It's a police report. And then the only thing that are in quotes is when I said, shut the fuck up. Nothing else is in quotes. So then it doesn't make sense when it says that I was driving on some of it. Then it says I try to get over into the driver's seat.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Well, if I was driving, how I try to get onto the driver's seat? How is he in the car if y'all just got him out of the driver? So how is this not adding up with this on the same pieces of paper? But it's still something that we treat it's valid on the Internet. I can't beat the Internet. So I ain't really been playing that route, you know what I'm saying? but as far as me being a gangster, a man representing this great street shit,
Starting point is 00:10:03 she got to get cleared up. You feel me? So, hell yeah, that shit blindsided me. I did the time. I'm still on parole. My bro right here is with me. He's not in jail. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:16 So you're the dude that he was in the car with when you all got caught up. That's pretty legendary in and of itself. So, I mean, do you want to talk about what happened with that whole trip and everything that you guys were on? on a mission, I guess, like, you know, handling some property, let's say.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Allegedly. Allegedly. And was it that you guys were sleeping in a parking lot somewhere, or did you just get pulled over? No, we got pulled over. We were sleeping in a parking lot. All right, that's just something I heard over the years, I guess wasn't true.
Starting point is 00:10:44 But so, I mean, I don't know how much you want to lay out the situation or whatever, but the cops pull you over, and they felt like you were acting nervous and they ended up searching the trunk. Yeah. basically they was going to search the car anyway they just you know when we got put over they
Starting point is 00:11:04 act like they smell weed or whatever you think that was cap yeah that's just like the ultimate excuse for cops to search anybody how live am I to be smoking weed and that's what I thought when I heard it I was like we didn't have no weed with nothing so that was right there's no weed in the evidence so that's already some other shit there but
Starting point is 00:11:25 it's so much shit that's so much shit that's fucked up about how the police handle this on top of this. You feel me? So it's just we're talking to story, so we're going to try to, we don't want to act like we shine away from nothing that need to be brought up. So before we leave, it's still like, no, we don't try to dance. We ain't doing no dancing, but I'm great.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Shit, I was in the passenger side, sleep, you feel me? So how, how, where I said it at like on great, so you're saying, who I'm talking to saying, Listen, listen, listen, I'm under arrest, you hear me? Well, whatever the case is, I'm going to be under arrest. We know what's going on. I'm under the police. The police is right here, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:12:12 Why the fuck am I saying something illegal is going on? I feel like something illegal going on. Bitch, I'm going to go to jail too. I'm under arrest. Why would I say, I feel like something illegal going on? Right. And we were together that whole time. So when I said that, do you think, if I was with this nigga next to him,
Starting point is 00:12:29 or if he was with me next to me and somebody said, I feel like something illegal going, we ain't going to the man, that's all. Yeah, I wouldn't have that. Right, because they said that you said that you got paid $3,000 to do this drive and that you felt like something illegal was going on.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Yeah, that's cat. If you were saying that right in front of your partner who you were with, I mean, that doesn't, it's kind of hard to happen. Mind you, this is, I went to jail for this two years later, kept running and getting caught. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:57 If I'm a tail on the nigger, why they keep coming, trying to get me why they ain't finding his location why they won't me to they come in and keep getting the snitch they came and got the snitch again out of what the fuck okay so where my part
Starting point is 00:13:11 of the deal win at then I'm still on parole till I'm fucking 50 right what I'm winning off this year okay I just did five I just left June 2018 I came back what is this what month is this now
Starting point is 00:13:26 July 2023 this is five years later but it's seven years from the actual stop. So seven years after the actual stop, all of a sudden, I'm a snitch. Right. Huh? What the fuck is this? And it fucked my head up for days
Starting point is 00:13:47 because I'm like, what is that paper on? Grathingy, what is that? Because I never got my discovery. I had a paid lawyer that even didn't do what he was supposed to do, which is why I have action at habeas corpus because of ineffective counsel. why didn't my lawyer go file the same motions that his team did
Starting point is 00:14:04 so I didn't even know I could get out of jail I was already in jail for two years before he went to jail if I told on this nigga instead of giving the nigga I'm telling him I'm gonna get on the plane and turn myself in right when I was just with all these rappers you just named yeah huh yeah it doesn't make a lot of sense what the fuck so instead of just staying in this mansion and saying he's right here right
Starting point is 00:14:28 Huh? So anyways Okay, so I'm fucked up You know what I'm saying? So I'm just doing my time on grave Everybody say, oh, O3, look like you ganges white bitch Have you seen a Texas, nigga? I'm down here squabbing and everything
Starting point is 00:14:43 I'm real life on the main light PC up. This is a fucking real prison I'm going through it in this bitch I'm catching COVID in this bitch Niggas dying in this bitch Niggas off tune Dying off tune
Starting point is 00:14:55 Niggins snort and shit That's why I don't snort shit no more because, I don't see niggas that I hang with, niggas that I shake hands with, just die in front of, man, listen, I just went through some traumatizing shit on grape and I'm carrying this shit on my chin. I'm taking this shit, bro.
Starting point is 00:15:10 That song, baby loke, you niggas got me fucked up. That song, Grace G-Wides. How I'm telling on the nigga I picked up. On my shit? What is this? What game we playing? So I was in the Twilight Zone, but when that lady started coming,
Starting point is 00:15:25 I don't even know this woman. You feel me? Yeah, Katie. Yeah, Katie. She's part of my attorney. Katie Quack. Yeah. Her father sent me a letter and was breaking down and we're going to bring all that shit.
Starting point is 00:15:38 We bring a letter. Once we get the whole discovery, we want to break down the video. We want all that shit. You got me fucked up. And he was telling me about how had a chance of getting out. Mind you, I keep saying, it's habeas corpus shit. I ain't never heard of that shit. I ain't never knew you could get out if you took a deal.
Starting point is 00:15:54 But there's other shit with that text. I don't know if they have that even out here. that even out here I don't know. I never heard of it, you feel me? So anyways, his team contacted the lawyer
Starting point is 00:16:05 that I hired to help me. Why the fuck would his team be helping me if I told on him? Why would this lady break her silence and go ham with all these details not giving the fuck
Starting point is 00:16:19 don't know me? Right. If I told on him, what? Did it ever answer into your mind at any point during this that Grito had done?
Starting point is 00:16:30 anything inappropriate during the arrest or afterwards or was this like something that you first thought about when the video came out the other day? No, I never put that out today, he told them. I never had them feel like that. I never felt like that. He would have known. He would have knew if I felt like that. We won't hiding them from each other. Hey, I'm gonna tell him how I feel. He'll tell me how you feel. I never felt like that. Right. Yeah, because I mean, at least in terms of like the snitching allegation thing in hip-hop now, we've seen a lot of different kinds. You got like the six thing where he blatantly made a deal
Starting point is 00:17:02 to tell on his homies. You got the gunna thing where they basically made him agree to a statement that inferred that his label had a criminal element to it. And then this is like kind of a totally different thing because the only allegation is that you said
Starting point is 00:17:18 a couple of things that would maybe look bad or be considered inappropriate during the course of the arrest, which is like, you know, it's just like a very minor thing in comparison to a lot of the stuff that we've seen. Even what was said, though, I feel like if he did say, that ain't even telling, though. He never said nothing is his.
Starting point is 00:17:36 He never said that. So tell him would be a far-fetched. Even if he was to say what they said on that paper, that wouldn't be telling. Right. So that's like a far-fetched. I don't get that part like, nah. But, I mean, even at that point— I don't believe he said what was on there.
Starting point is 00:17:49 But at that point in your life, you've already been through the system at times. You already know what is appropriate and not appropriate for a gangster to say. So it's like, why would I say that? What is my motive? on, like, that man, that don't make sense. Like, on grape, like, I feel like something illegal's going on. I think if they didn't put that in there,
Starting point is 00:18:10 it would have made a little more like, yeah, bitch, I'm under arrest. Why the fuck would I say something illegal going on? Right, like that's going to get you out of it right then and there. You know what? Some bad shit going on. I'm sorry, let me, no, nigger. Fuck is going on right here.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Y'all got all type of shit. Sit your black ass. Ain't nobody fin of. Then they try to act like a nigga had an interview with the DEA on grave. They walked us in there with the DEA, sat us down, started to interview us, tried to interview us both asked for our attorney. And I want to call somebody if it's all right. Do it, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:43 But, uh... For sure. Yeah, man. I mean, it has been a pretty wild thing. So, because there's really no way to prove that what the cops wrote down was actually something that you said. Except, except the video. And there is video that we're going to have access to at some point.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Can you point that up to the mic? Where the mic be at when it's on speaking? Right on the bottom, yeah. Right here? Hey. Hey. Hey, Katie. Hi.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Hi, Katie. Hey, I'm sitting here with Adam and Justin, and we're just touching up on, you know, everything that's trying to be put on my name and how you feel about it and why you feel about it because, like Adam just said when I called, there's no way to prove that what a police writes on the paper is true, and I told him except a video. Can you tell them why I'm saying that? Well, first of all, I'll start out with that I was not the attorney on the case.
Starting point is 00:19:43 That's good. I was a paralegal for the co-defendant who 1090 Jake tried to say was ratted on. So we were for the person that 1090 Jake tried to say was the what was the person who was rat, right? So when you're hired as an attorney and all of these things, that you go 100% for that client. And with that being said, is at this point in time, Justin, the co-descendant, had gone on the run. And he was arrested about two years later after OTHERGROTO signed his plea deal. And the reason that Justin was finally, while he went on the run was his daughter was having a heart surgery. And he didn't want to miss that heart surgery for his daughter.
Starting point is 00:20:45 So he went on the run for that, which is extremely admirable. He was then put, he was taken by bounty hunters. And they took him into jail. And that is when he hired my father, Jesse Quackamush. I was a paralegal for my father, Jesse Quackamush. And at this point, O3 Grotto had already been in jail, taking a plea deal. And his case was resolved to the extent of what everybody thinks it is now. It wasn't until I, you know, we took the case.
Starting point is 00:21:31 And my job for being my, the paralegal, was to look at all of the evidence. And I would make a report back to my dad. I would skim through every single ounce of the evidence, which when you deal with a defendant and a co-defendant, you have the same discovery. And anybody who doesn't know, discovery is all of the evidence. and when we were going through it, I realized that there was, there was no police footage in this thing. And I told them, I said, okay, there's something going on weird with this, with this, with this case. Like, why are there no police footage?
Starting point is 00:22:21 So I had to go down to the Randall County DA, and go and bang on the window and demand that footage from them because they were trying to hide it. And my dad had told me there's a reason, you know, they were caught with an extreme amount of methamphetamine. And there was a reason that that never went federal. And that the reason it didn't go federal was because, because it was a bad case.
Starting point is 00:22:55 So 1090, Jake wants to say DEA agents. The reason it did not ever go to a actual DEA agent was because it was a bad case. A bad case, meaning that it wouldn't have stood up in court under the scrutiny that the feds would have had it under? Well, this is the worst part is that O3Gridos, an original attorney, never looked at the footage. He never looked at the footage. he never looked at anything and the reason that he signed
Starting point is 00:23:26 the plea deal that he did was because he was caught with a firearm and he was a black man from California and his original attorney did not ever try to fight for him he didn't look at any of the footage
Starting point is 00:23:42 he didn't even try all he did was say okay you were a black man and you were caught you're a felon and you were caught with a firearm take this plea deal or you're going to end up in life in prison and just gave him a plea deal and that was that is what happened so then after othigrido was in jail for i think about a year justin was then um taken in by the um bounty hunters and that's when the the uh case came onto our plate
Starting point is 00:24:22 And when that case came onto our place, I saw that there was a lot of this. There was so much that was wrong with this case. And I said, I told my dad, I said, there's something really wrong here. There's something going on. Why are they not? You know, I deal with murder cases. I deal with horrific cases. And I was wondering, and we have police footage for all of them.
Starting point is 00:24:50 and they wouldn't give us the police footage. And so then it took me to get the police footage to go bang on the door of the DA's office to get this police footage from them because they thought that we could just sweep it under the rug and just, you know, Justin's was a black dachalb. Why would they be hiding the footage on? They were hiding the footage because they knew they fucked up
Starting point is 00:25:15 because it was a bad stop to begin with. it was not only did they never read you to your Miranda rights you and Justin both asked for an attorney during the interrogation and they kept the police officers are trained to interrogate to get information out their methods that they use that to interrogate defendants so that they can go and basically rat on people, as Sinan D.J says. And they can manipulate people who are in the worst situations of their lives to say things that they don't really need to. And my job was to, you know, I was never the attorney on the case. I'm not saying I'm an attorney. I was never an attorney.
Starting point is 00:26:16 However, I was a paralegal that did all the grunt work on this case. When we went and looked at the footage, I was so deeply disturbed by this footage that, I mean, O3Grito had a gun to his head for 11 minutes. And what he was saying was, let me get to my show. I want to just make music. they then took him after 11 minutes and this is before George Floyd okay this is before everybody was hyper-vigilant on black people's lives this is before all of that that before anybody gave a fuck right they put him they pulled them over and put a gun to his head in the middle of a pasture of the mill of nowhere with fucking cow patties to his head basically. You tried to do anything? Like, why did they...
Starting point is 00:27:23 Put a gun to his head. And, you know, I spoke... He wants to know, he wants to know why did they do that? Yeah. There was, there was... Do you feel like there was... So when they did that,
Starting point is 00:27:34 so that when they did that, the reason they did that was, um, the original, why they decided to pull them over was they were saying that he was passing. He was staying in the left, lane too long.
Starting point is 00:27:51 And that's a passing lane. And, um, however, when we went and looked back at the footage, Justin, co-defendant was in the passing lane because there was four cars in. And this is all caught on video. There's four cars. And he was passing them. And there was an exit lane on the right hand side. It's a two-lane highway.
Starting point is 00:28:16 And he, um, Um, if it was a person who was in a nice car, wasn't a rental car, and wasn't black, it would have never been a big deal. However, they were in a rental car. They're black and they were running through West Texas. Well, let me tell you, if you believe it or not, it's a little racist around here. And they racially profiled them. They pulled them over for something that. And when this originally happened, I couldn't.
Starting point is 00:28:52 believe it. This is before the George Floyd crap. And I couldn't believe it because, you know, we are from different worlds. I am a rich attorney's daughter. I never saw racial profile in real life. And I, I didn't believe what I just saw because there's so many times that I've sucked up and I've drawn in the left lane so many times. So after I saw, I saw it. So after I saw, this footage that was so bad, I went and drove, these police officers stay under the certain underpass, and that's where they stay, and that's where they get their photos. And I drove there five times in a row, and I recorded it on video. The first time I went through it, I was in a Porsche, and, you know, I'm a white, and I had bleached blonde hair, and I was speeding 85 miles
Starting point is 00:29:51 per hour. They never pulled me over. Then I said, I'm going to swerve in front of them and see if they call me over. They never pulled me over. And then I said, I'm going to go back on that pass and do exactly what, you know, Jason and Justin did. I'm going to do exactly what they did as a white woman and see if they pull me over. And I'm going to be on my cell phone while I do it. And I did. And I recorded it on my phone. And I was so disgusted that the fact that the fact that being just a bleach blown white girl, they didn't even look. However, the fact that they both were black and they both were in their cars, the rental car, it grew a suspicion. Why? Because they were black. And they got pulled over. It doesn't matter what was in their vehicle.
Starting point is 00:30:44 what matters is what the fourth amendment is and that is you have a right to search and seizure and that was not applied at all they tried to use um and the in the when they first searched them they tried to say oh we smell marijuana and just and jason were completely honest and they said you know we smell in New Mexico, which where it's completely legal. And cops in the state of Texas, if you're running through it, if they even say you have smoked marijuana and it smells like marijuana, they can use that as a bypass of the fourth minute of search and seizure. So during this whole interrogation, and I know more than the attorneys, of course I have not accredited. an attorney at right now, but I do know it's...
Starting point is 00:31:47 What made them want to shoot at me? Yeah, why was the gun to his head? I know more than the attorneys, because this is a thing. You know, when you're an attorney, you're only as good as your paralegal. And a paralegal does all the grunt work. So I transcribed every single video. I looked at every single thing.
Starting point is 00:32:08 What does it transcribe videos mean? What do you mean? Writing out the words? I mean, all of the videos. I had to word for word type them out. So in them videos, do you, do you remember me saying all this shit that these allegations are? No, you never did. But what was what was going on at that moment when they aimed a gun at me?
Starting point is 00:32:29 Did I try to, did I try to climb over to the driver's seat in the video? No, you never climbed over to the driver's seat. And this is all on video. This is all on video. First of all, you're, you wouldn't have been able to because you and Justin will so goddamn, I mean, scared. I mean, you have, you guys are in the middle of Texas where they take
Starting point is 00:32:50 black people hide. It was so sunshine, bright. You better not try to get in the driver's seat. Yeah. Fuck as I'm gonna, man. Exactly. They wanted your hide for a trope. So, Katie, are we, Katie, are we ever
Starting point is 00:33:04 going to be able to see this video footage? You hear us, Katie. Katie. Katie. Katie. Katie. You got to interrupt the monologue here. Do we, do we, are we ever going to be able to see footage of the arrest or of any of this stuff that would that would I mean that is up to him to release and his attorney I got I got the attorney getting a video okay hey but we want to ask you we want
Starting point is 00:33:26 to ask you one more thing because we don't want to take up the whole interview right but can you tell us why did they have the gun to my head they have to get gun to your head because you were a black guy from California in a rental car and they thought that he were a a hood person That's why. Did I make any sudden move or anything to make them want to do? No, no, no. The video of you having gone to your head, and this is before George Floyd things where it really impacted white people a lot.
Starting point is 00:34:00 The video of the gun to your head impacted me so much that, you know, it made me go from a girl, a single mother with a GED, to where I am now with a political science degree and go to college because of how horrible it was. You kept repeating to the police officer, and I talked to your mother on the phone about this, you were repeating the police officer. I'm just trying to get to my show. I'm just trying to get to make music. And he didn't care because when you were with a gun to your head, you were not 03 grade. You were Jason and Jamal Jackson. And, you know, people like 1090, Jake, want to say all of this street credit.
Starting point is 00:34:49 But what is so humbling is that, you know, police don't care about your street credit. That's another point on the federal system. You know, when you walk into a courtroom, nobody cares who the fuck you are. You are known by your birthday. And that's important because I think that, The thing that 1090 Jake is doing is really malicious on the fact that we should all be praising the fact that there is a black man that is out of prison in the state of Texas. And you are not a statistic to mass incarceration of black men. You got to, you know, at the end of the day, you got to go home to your daughter.
Starting point is 00:35:38 You got to go home to your mother. I think your dad was telling me that y'all wouldn't even have been able to work the case for just in how you did if I would have cooperated. Never, never. And in the back of the car, I will talk about the cooperation thing. As I saw the whole entire video, I actually transcribed it, which means that I have to type out every word verbatim in that video. And I wasn't going to say a damn thing. I wasn't good of saying a damn thing I mean before all this
Starting point is 00:36:11 I didn't listen to your music I'm from fucking Amarola Texas I mean I like young dolls and things like that Long live dog You know I'm not like Super into the culture Anything like that You know so I
Starting point is 00:36:28 But when I was working the case I was working the case is that you are a human You are just as I And you deserve a chance just as I And when we were doing it in the back of the car what happened
Starting point is 00:36:42 in the back of the car you the only thing that was said about $3,000 was that first of all Justin Justin if you're listening to this
Starting point is 00:36:55 I love you sweetheart I'm so sorry but baby you were scared out of his fucking mind and there's a video of Justin when they caught the drugs and it's so funny because he just absolutely looks like
Starting point is 00:37:07 going to shit his pants. And it's the funniest part of the hell damn video. It's so freaking funny. And I love so much. If they found my mess, I might feel like I was going to shit my pants too. Yeah. I don't want to discredit how cool you are because you are great.
Starting point is 00:37:22 No, I ain't worried about that. However, he looked like he's got to shit his pants. And he, in this video, he's the one, the co-defendant, which 1090, Jake, tried. to say is the that you rat it on. Okay, first of all, we are the attorneys for the person that 1090J is saying to rat on. Okay. And, you know, I picked up your co-defendant from jail.
Starting point is 00:37:55 You know, I've been in contact with him, the whole entire time. And this is the thing is that when y'all were in the back of the car, you know what you did you actually played it better than Justin Justin was scared of shit he's never been in trouble before like that and he was like saying oh man oh man what did I do oh god oh fuck and what you did to calm down Justin because he's losing his shit like oh fuck he also at the time had a woman who was pregnant and he's about to miss the birth of his child so he's going through all this Like, you know, Justin, bless your heart, you have a shit lot of kids. In his mind, during this, all this, he's thinking, I'm never going to see my kids again.
Starting point is 00:38:47 And the whole time he's saying, oh, man, oh, man. And what you did was say, we'll talk about this later. We'll talk about this later. We won't, we won't go further. Let's talk about this later. and you they kept trying to interrogate you and they used every method to interrogate you both they separated y'all they used all of the techniques that they are trained to do to um to interrogate you and manipulate you and turn you guys against each other and i will say it was very admirable because you guys both remained for others throughout at all you know this is my dog but look we don't want to take up the whole interview yeah katie Can I just, Katie, can I just ask you one question before we get off the phone? Katie, Katie, he has one question for you, Katie.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Did you really shoot a homeless guy? Yes, I did because he was attacking me. And she's free legally. Hey, I support him, man. We got to get rid of him somehow. Yes, I did. I did shoot a homeless person. We got a few more down here in Skid Row.
Starting point is 00:39:52 We need you to come take care of. I ain't in it. Thank you, Katie. Katie, we got to go because we don't want to take up the interview. You kind soul you. Yeah, he was attacking me and I shot him. and I did the most gangsters thing that a lot of people
Starting point is 00:40:05 are going to go to trial. Hey, we all wanted to do it. We've all wanted it. And I took it to trial and 12 people who had no idea who I was, so I mean, not guilty. Where did you shoot him? That was because this motherfucker was a crazy
Starting point is 00:40:19 schizophrenic and he lived in a big city. You know, these motherfuckers are crazy. And he came up on me and he fucked with the wrong bitch for Texas. Hey, Kay. All right, Kay. All right, I appreciate you. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:40:32 That was very informative. She really believes in y'all. But look, look. But look. This shit was seven years ago. I know how I rock, bro. Even my bro, he told me somebody asked him, is Grito mad because I'm not really saying a lot in public?
Starting point is 00:40:53 What did you tell him, Jake? I told him, fuck, Maddy Furious. I know what he's standing for. He wasn't doing nothing like that. If somebody... I told this nigga because I know people probably like, nigga, fuck all that.
Starting point is 00:41:06 I heard the record it. Look, bro. If somebody came to me and the names were switched and they had that paper, I might say some shit worse than that this bitch-ass-niguer. Paws to be my dog.
Starting point is 00:41:20 You weird-ass-nigua. And now you go blow up this reaction. But how did you know that you should be recording at that time? You feel what kind of games be you playing? You know what I'm saying? I was out of a yard court. But at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:41:33 if somebody tried to present it to me, I told this nigga, I told this nigga even again recently, bro, it was a million times while I sat in prison before he got there, which was almost two years, not one, but the lady brought up.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Hell yeah, I thought my boy told him me a million days. I thought a million different scenarios. I replayed this day 100,000 fucking times while I sat in that motherfucking hot-assail in Texas. You feel me? Did I try to put something out there
Starting point is 00:41:58 or act like this, This nitch, hell no, nigga, I was in my feeling because I was locked up, and I don't know why this nigga ain't locked up. This nigga, swift. You feel me? I'm like, nigga, this nigga is thugging in the projects. It's eating my head up. I say, man, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:42:13 Yeah, because how did you only get six months in comparison to him? I caught another case. I was fighting another dad for that. The only reason I said as long as I did, because I had two other cases that I had actually got arrested for the time, and that just popped up with my fingerprints. So they couldn't come get me until I was done with them. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:42:28 So by the time they got me, They wouldn't even worried about me. That's how I got the little deal I got. Because they had already got him, so they weren't really tripping about you? They wouldn't even looking for me no more. Really? I got caught on a whole other case. And then my fingerprints just popped up.
Starting point is 00:42:39 So when I was done with that case, then they came and got me like, shit. Okay, but I got to ask this. The paperwork was basically like being shopped around, being sent to people by some guys that you used to be cool with who clearly have an agenda where they want to put out a narrative about you, right? Yeah, see, now when it comes to that, I'm a real gangster. I'm a real player. So strategically, I know not to get too much on individuals that may have created this uproar.
Starting point is 00:43:11 You did? What I can say is, if those individuals are saying that's why they're upset, then that's on y'all to understand. They're telling you what they're doing and why they're doing it. You feel me? But as far as me, I represent this Great Street shit, and I know it's niggas that might have been in the hood
Starting point is 00:43:31 longer than me or in the streets probably more than me I don't know but on a worldwide level I got to fucking represent this shit so that's why I pulled up with the homie
Starting point is 00:43:42 the homies out here the homies are coming here to whoever feel like they got something to say about how they push in the narrative online that my hood is mad at me nigga
Starting point is 00:43:51 I love this hood this hood love me this shit is on my face this shit is my fucking name right what is wrong with you. If I was a snitch, you think I'm gonna go so. I would be the boldest. I have whoever else beat.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Niggin, you gonna bang this shit hard like that and you know you are straight snitch? Oh man, listen, bro. I don't know about the individuals that created the upward. What I know is that shit ain't facts. That shit ain't facts. And I'm still with my dog. I ain't give them no money to come right here. This is my dog, nigga. Our kids look at us like uncles.
Starting point is 00:44:30 I talk to this nigger son every week, two, three times a week. What's up on what we doing? Right. Even when it's she happening, what the fuck is they talking about that? You feel, me? People, what world is we in where people get to playing with a nigga life name and family like that, nigga? The truth going to come out, you hear me?
Starting point is 00:44:51 We already, we already got, I didn't want to come here and play with somebody else's papers because we don't know if this is something that's doctor. We don't know if this is a police report. which like we said, a police could say that. Ain't none of that shit that's that bullshit and quotes with me. You feel me? Y'all quote when the nigga told the nigga be quiet, chill out, you feel me? And whatever words y'all put that in.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Where to interview? Why I see all that other shit that be when they expose a snitch where say a nigger say a statement and sign his name? Just like my nigga P. Jr. said, nigger did it have a statement quoted in a signature? But, nigga, that ain't no motherfucking paperwork. Nick, I don't know, nigga. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Honestly, bro, what I was going to tell them about my shit. Right. One thing is, I never got pulled over with bricks, but in my mind growing up, and just like I would imagine other people, nigga, we get caught with bricks, we're over with. That's all we know what I'm telling you that for. Because when you're doing those drives,
Starting point is 00:45:51 that's the only thing you got to think about, right? It's what am I going to say if I get pulled over? We know, hey, nigger, shit to get real. We can die. We can go get a life sentence. Then police is fucked up on that case. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:09 I can't think for nobody else. I don't know if they were going to keep me in there longer. But I know once they start sending me them letters telling me I had action, I hired a lawyer and I started going to the attorney visits and shit. All of a sudden now, a nigga can make parole. You feel me? Mm. But I don't want to never on this say something.
Starting point is 00:46:30 that I don't know for show. So that's the only reason I asked the young lady to speak her part because at the end of the day, it was seven years ago. I know I didn't do no telling. So I'm not going to do no safe shit like the life. So I don't remember everything and shit
Starting point is 00:46:42 if y'all do see some shit. No, I'm not saying that. But I never wanted to say, oh, that shit fake. Oh, you niggas doing this. Oh, what y'all are you racist? I see it right there. Because once it come out that that's still what happened,
Starting point is 00:46:53 it's like, yeah, all the evidence is cool, but why cause lying? And then at the end of the day, one thing I got to deal with, I'm down for whatever nigga playing with me, though. I got to deal with for the rest of my life. If you say something like that about somebody, a snitch, a traitor, or some sexual fucked-up shit, whether they get proved innocent or guilty for the rest of their life,
Starting point is 00:47:16 for the rest of their legacy, certain individuals are going to be like, man, that niggas is a snitch. So it's putting people that will play with me in danger or me in danger, and I'm on parole till 2038. Is this how we plan? Yeah, no, what do you think the motivation might be, though, for certain people that used to be in your life to want to smear you like that? What camera on? This one probably, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Can you ask me that question again? Why do you think people want to get at you right now? Because you got a 20-pound chain? Maybe you got the cough syrup chain, too. I could use one of those. Why are they mad? Let me ask you something. You're not a street dude.
Starting point is 00:48:13 You're my partner, though. so I'm never going to belittle you saying you know the street dude why I'm saying that I'm not saying it I'm well aware you're my real partner though appreciate so um you not even being from the streets if you heard some dudes knew a dude that was
Starting point is 00:48:29 around them or the people they around heard he was a snitch you would think man that motherfucker's been to kill that nigga right I've heard of it yeah well this is the internet with the internet if I respond wrong, if I even send
Starting point is 00:48:49 the wrong shit towards the young man that's just doing his job, I ain't mad at no 1090 J. If anything happens to them, now it's going to look like, oh, Greedo didn't like that shit they did. So it's like this is a safety, safety for whatever. I don't know. This is not some, I don't understand. So anyways, it's on the internet.
Starting point is 00:49:14 I don't even know how I react. to such an insult because this is the internet version. And not only are you from the streets, but you also just did five years behind bars. So it's like these are two places that are very different from the internet. If someone says something bad about you in your hood or in prison, they get hands in a different way, right? Hey, um, hey, what homies we got right there?
Starting point is 00:49:40 Go on. Hey, open that door. What's going on with you? How are you doing? What's going on, do? How you doing? I'm good. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:47 introduce yourself I'm Lil 100 little 100 from the Jordan Downs oh okay I've seen your shit over the years yeah yeah I met you before we met a few times right okay yeah so yeah what's your thoughts on all this shit this has been my dog since we was you know from back in the G I met a dog you know a few years ago and there we since we met we've been cool you feel me like dogs but for some snitching type shit y'all just seen his crime me just left from right here you feel like when a nigger time of our nigger sat down with the D and all that type of shit you know people be paint narratives and all that shit for their own motives, you know.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Niggas be having motives to do shit, but ain't no niggas sit down with no DA and made no statements or put nobody in jail and all that type of shit, you know. Snitching is really putting a nigga in jail. Nobody put no nigga in jail. As far as my stands on it, I'm standing with him. Like, I don't go to fuck about with no motherfucker
Starting point is 00:50:34 talking about no motherfucking rap shit and none of that shit, because this shit deeper than rap. They ain't even about rap. Like, you feel me? I don't got. And about no music or none of that shit. Like, it's shit too real. Yeah, so. That's part of the narrative that's kind of been put out there is that
Starting point is 00:50:49 Grito's being exposed by his homies from Grape Street, et cetera, which I assume that that makes other people feel like, oh, this must be real because it's people that used to be around saying it. But you know, when it comes like that, when these people used to be around saying that shit, then you always know it got to be a motive. We got to be something behind it. Like ain't 10, 15, 20 niggas, real gangster niggas standing behind the nigger
Starting point is 00:51:11 when the nigga did some fuck shit like that, you feel me? So it's just too much to be said. Like, all that shit. is out the window. A nigga standing with his dog on Bezzi. A nigga see this shit evident. All that shit is flawed. 100%.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Yeah, straight like that. How many homies you think I got right here right now? 10.15 out there? Yeah, there's plenty of us out here. Forrest speaking on something, I'm like one of the top niggas at the chain. Food ring of this Great Street shit. So a nigga go by the book.
Starting point is 00:51:38 So if a nigga looking at the book and see what it is, it's evident. Like, so a nigga don't want to hear none of that shit. On Bezzi, I do music too. It ain't about no music. And they could be having all type of comments and all that shit, talking about some features and all that shit. They don't give a fuck about that. Nigger Ben talked to his dog about music.
Starting point is 00:51:53 He already know what I'm on. I don't go to a fuck about that. I'm getting so much money chilling these last years, but we'll get to that later, but it's deeper than rap. We don't get a fuck about that right now. It's not about a feature. For real, it's my dog. Fuck, he care about a feature, probably got 50 already.
Starting point is 00:52:07 I got unreleased music. I never released when my dog was in jail. I just didn't even know what was going on. There's like two, a nigger been, there's so much shit been going on. been conversating and dealing with him since he's been in jail, writing letters talking the whole time. He's like, there's like, there's so much weird shit been going on.
Starting point is 00:52:23 I ain't got to tell no people. Fuck an iPad or J. Pay and then write me letters with his hands. Like, I didn't wrote dogs several letters in jail back and forth we talk and shit. So it ain't about what a nigga thinking. I just don't let people know my relationship that I got with a nigga, and I ain't fun to let no other nigga fuck up my relationship that I got with him based on what they feel.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Like that shit, it's just like that. Definitely. me a bunch of those books right there, I bought them for you, and then I realized that you had to send it directly from Amazon to the prison, so then I had to read order my head. So I can't leave with my shit? You could definitely have someone. I got that hell already. I got the hell. Yeah, because I think I just, mastery by Robert Green. That is a good one, yeah. Biggest bluff. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. My boy, man, this is really my boy. You feel me? I know you go through a lot of headaches or whatever else, but just no, I'm rocking with you, you know what I'm saying? Just like,
Starting point is 00:53:16 I can't never say with that because that's not like you're the same type people but how I ain't tripping on 1090 Jack I know even this shit is your job you know what I'm saying and it's just like niggas people don't know if we discussed you know what we own you feel me so I don't never feel like damn you know what I'm saying I'm rocking with you this is some shit from the beginning of my career taking off we've been rocking you feel I appreciate man yeah and I'm gonna be real with you like I always used to basically see like two different versions of Grito. There was the very, very up Grito who was on probably certain substances that were making you feel like that. And then sometimes I would see the very low-key slumped version of Grito.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Right, right. And it's kind of surreal to see like the real you, like very middle of the road, chill, like still creative and everything. But I was very used to seeing either like one extreme or the other for a long time. So how does it feel to be in that headspace? Because I feel like it probably feels like a totally different opportunity for you to be taking advantage of. of all these things that are in front of you right now in terms of the music and everything being that you have like a clear head now. It's crazy, man.
Starting point is 00:54:23 You realize you just, I ain't gonna shit on the drugs because the drugs created my career, created my content like, substance steel panning a nigga more than all the other songs, you feel I mean? So those drugged out-ass nights kind of had made some shit.
Starting point is 00:54:43 And I'd be listening to it today like, and that bitch just sounds like some load. It's just like 10 words and substance. They feel it though. So it's like I can't shit on how creative I was when I was on them drugs. But I was fucking dying, bro. I was destroying myself. I was really like in a lot of physical pain off of doing like, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:04 I was off of like 10 things in one day because of the case just, you know, weighing in on me. I was at the top of my game. No, definitely. And I mean, that's a tough way to live. You know? Because I cleaned up my act, actually probably right around the time that you turned yourself in. And it's just...
Starting point is 00:55:21 Oh, you clean? Yeah, I still smoke weed a little bit, but that's better. I'm talking about you. You know what, man, listen. We never did drugs together, but we were definitely doing some of the same drugs. Yeah, like I said, this is my pun of your, you know what's going on, but nah, I ain't, you know what I'm saying? You miss being zuted, though, a little bit? Um, uh, because I got more to worry about being in.
Starting point is 00:55:45 control of now. You know what I'm saying? Walking around with jury on and shit now, it's like, bro, you can't just be, even though I still used to be alert, I'm really kind of like, a lot of people that have been having problems would be don't even know me.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Just like how you know, like I got an off and on switch. Like, I'm really all kind of like energetic, active ass nigga, you know what I'm saying? So I don't, I don't not miss shit, but I don't need it to still be the person I am.
Starting point is 00:56:13 So it's like, if you... I don't want to be no old-ass junkie. weren't getting pissed tested, do you think you would be still dibbling and dabbling? No, especially not snorting none because I ain't hear what the fuck about no car fentanyl and shit when I was, until I just like, I came onto like a whole other world cars driving their selfish shit. Move out the white bitch, ain't nobody in there. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:56:39 Oh hell no, this shit is another world. Even the way that people handle street shit, the world, it's so much shit that I won't even say before I fuck off money and endorsements. It's like, what world is this? What has changed from a street perspective in your mind? Look at what we're here doing, like what? That ain't something that... The internet.
Starting point is 00:57:01 My hood don't do, no. We would never do no shit like, no... Not as a whole. That ain't know if somebody came and sat at a roundtable and we said, let's do this on the internet. What the fuck? Then it'd be like, niggas be saying, oh, yeah, he probably ain't fucking with the hood.
Starting point is 00:57:15 I don't know if people don't really know because they don't be seeing what's going on on the other side of the camera when people take pictures of me. My whole entourage is the hummies. Somebody always right here. It's always a homie with me. Ain't no drummer.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Who? Nigger, who do you think I'd be standing next to? What are you talking about? Who the fuck? You mad because you ain't in the inner circle? Then you do weird shit and then say, no, I just did that.
Starting point is 00:57:45 shit because I wanted this or I wanted that 2023. Especially like you being away for five years and not really seeing up close the way that the internet has been changing and that, you know, it must be kind of shocking. Then you got a nigga I know
Starting point is 00:58:03 well I ain't even going to say that. Let me get out that gangster world for I say some dumb shit. I could only imagine where that was going to go. Thank God. Thank God I didn't snort any cocaine. Thank God I'm so... Nigger would be saying all tape of shit on the door. What? I almost
Starting point is 00:58:18 went there, but now, look, great. I feel highly disrespectful, you feel me? We're gonna do a part two? Break down the video, and then after that, we're gonna do a no-jumper special out of where me and you're gonna do some play of shit.
Starting point is 00:58:39 Why, we can't do fun shit? I'm fresh out celebrating me. After all this bullshit, let's go do some fun shit. Let's do it. Why y'all wanna keep shitting on the nigger, fresh out? Take a nigga to get the new jane. Nobody does anything fun in L.A. anymore.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Everybody's scared to get robbed or something. We ain't got to be in L.A.? Go to Stockton. Outside of this shit. Right on the outside of this shit. Yeah. It ain't too far away. It's a buffer zone.
Starting point is 00:59:04 But do you feel like you're, like, there's a time period where after you get out from being locked up where it takes a little while for your brain to adjust to having all this freedom and shit? You feel like you're fully adjusted and back to normal? Or is it still, you're kind of waking up and feeling a little odd? It'll never be a kid. catch for me like a way I can catch it. I'm always being kind of psychologically
Starting point is 00:59:24 fucked up. I blew up when I left. Had to get used to a new state, a new environment, new individuals, different gangs, different racial politics, different drugs around me, different, everything. Still stay hip to what music was hot and what artists I was liking and producers and all.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Still stay polished on my music shit. Still stay hot. Still keep my personal affairs. Still raise my daughter. My daughter rock with me. great, you feel me? So raise my daughter, I'm a single father, you feel me, so now I gotta go back to playing the music game when honestly, if I would have been out
Starting point is 01:00:01 and been able to be a little further in my contract, I would have been already going to mogul mode, still dropping, but like, you know what I'm saying? So I gotta reset this shit up and shit, it's just like, uh, I'm never gonna have a point where I feel like, okay, now I feel normal because I'm chasing this now. You feel me, it's never like, let me get back to the norm.
Starting point is 01:00:21 Now I got to get, I don't know, like, safe prison had me here, but the normal is right here, but fame is here. I just got to get past these gates. I'm so busy going to the fame. I really ain't got time to worry about that pussy-ass shit. I got to work, you feel you feel me? Right. Like the personal life. There was like a tweet I remember from a couple years ago.
Starting point is 01:00:41 It might have been Jeff Weiss, but he was saying something like, think about how sad, the most inspired era of L.A. hip-hop in recent years, think about how sad. Think about how sad the ending to it was, which was Shoreline broke up within a couple years. Draco, rest in peace, and then 03 doing 20 years. So at the very least, like now we have a silver lining, which is that you get another shot. That realistically, a lot of us were saying, like, yeah, apparently he's going to get out when he's 45.
Starting point is 01:01:09 You're going to get out when he's 50, whatever. Like, you know, it's not like we wanted to count you out, but realistically, there was not a ton of optimism, even among your friends and the people that, care about you getting out and putting it work. What you mean? Y'all feel like that, nigga, I feel like that.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Nick, I'm going down there thinking I got 20. I didn't be crying like a little kid and shit. Niggie get his paperwork and see a nigga get his leave maybe in two years. A nigga say, damn, I was crying like a bitch like that in front of my bitch and everything, nigga.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Damn, nigga, shit. Nick, I was holding it down. I could have just, what? But nah, nigga, I thought I had 20-20. I ain't never heard of ag and on egg. We don't have that. So that was a little bit of a relief But then they kept denying the niggins
Starting point is 01:01:52 They denied them, they denied them They said the 20 was up It's a nigga named. New York is a nigga name N-O is a nigga name. It's 20 n-o is a nigga name. Hey, Shottown. Nah, hell, no.
Starting point is 01:02:08 You better quit fucking with Shatown. They've been down 42 years. Crazy shit. That Texas shit, you'd be with a nigga been gone. Nigger with phones and everything. You're saying, man, what? How long you meant down? But they got you in a cell with them. You got a couple
Starting point is 01:02:21 years. And you're just thinking, this guy got nothing to lose. And meanwhile, I'm over here trying to keep my shit together. And people are so many people that got so much on their mind, whether it's violence or if they got something sick on their mind or, you know, anything, you know what, did you see anything wild in there or were you, like, basically respected on account of the music and everything? Y'all seen hell of wild shit, you know what I'm saying? You managed to stay out of it for the most part? I ain't finish nothing about
Starting point is 01:02:51 hurting myself All good, bro Little 100 I haven't been to say nothing to get me in some shit you Okay 100% I think there's probably a pretty
Starting point is 01:03:02 obvious answer to this But you proposed to your girlfriend At the time on stage At your final show Hell you It doesn't seem like that worked out No, we're still together You are still together?
Starting point is 01:03:12 Yeah, no You think I'm a fucking suck a nigga Fuck that? No, that's my dog though I gotta understand how the pen is like, niggas, you don't hear my music I talk about if I run for your life, like
Starting point is 01:03:25 I'm bracing you, niggas, for what you fin to see while I'm dropping these songs before I leave, nigga, it's, yeah, it's gonna go on, let's see how it go on. Well, I've been digging into the 33 song project that you put out since you got home. It's like reading the Bible. It's so fucking long.
Starting point is 01:03:40 I got to listen to it in increments. I had to make sure I'm getting some new shit to perform. Great, let me let them learn some new shit. I don't want to only sing that old shit. I got to mix it up. Definitely. But now I don't be, I don't be tripping about like, I don't, I don't want, I'm not with you. I don't want to be with you, but like, well, go on in the game, go on
Starting point is 01:03:58 in the game. You ain't trying to get me a kill. You ain't did nothing. I don't get a fuck, nigga. Right. So you had the mentality that you wanted somebody holding you down while you were locked up and then is that, is it not as good as it sounds? I really didn't want nobody, but when I had went down the last time when they called me the, and I got out that one day and did out of the slums with Draco that was great
Starting point is 01:04:18 because we was both fighting some shit I'd say that was like a movie but anyways You think that's why that song came out so hard?
Starting point is 01:04:25 Hell yeah That song is ridiculous I don't know everything Yeah Long live the rule Everything about our shit was hard as fuck
Starting point is 01:04:31 Because it's like What the fuck That's gonna sound Like This singing ass nick on the song Oh this shit Hard to bed
Starting point is 01:04:38 What is that shit? You guys really might have Like a hundred percent Hits When you came together Fuck man That's where I'm like like, man, but I, man, hold on.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Hold on, let's finish that other question first. Hold on. What we were saying? The engagement? Oh, somebody held me down. No, it's like, nigger. Not really, but right before I went in, that person was trying to make sure I knew that.
Starting point is 01:04:59 No, I could do this, but it's like, man, you know what's going on. But, um, but, um, let's get on. Oh, tell my bro Trio come in there, too. Hey, but, uh, you want to talk about Drake or right now? you want to wait till after bro come in here? We can get, this is the Trill that I know. Yeah. Oh, shit, I didn't even see him out there.
Starting point is 01:05:22 Oh, no wonder I didn't recognize you. What the fuck? You got a whole different style. I didn't see you out there. What's going on, Trill? How are you living? You got a whole head of hair. You got glasses or something?
Starting point is 01:05:33 You want to run? Disguise. I don't know how long you had this look going on. Last time I seen you, you were looking way more thugged out. No, man. I tried to switch. You got to switch. You got to.
Starting point is 01:05:43 I've been trying, man. I've been moving around. Yeah, you know. 100%. Hey, but before we even talked to Trill, that must have been, like when I think about the number of deaths
Starting point is 01:05:54 that you witness behind bars, I mean, it must have felt like fucking torture having to just be hit with this shit every couple years, every year. People that I'm cool with, though. It ain't, I mean, not saying that everybody else needs to die,
Starting point is 01:06:04 but it's not niggas that I ain't knowing or ain't got a relationship or friendship or brotherhood with. It's my focus, my focus. I'm already going through the personal side of people done, like, you know, like auntie, Just family friends
Starting point is 01:06:17 Or just losing like real close homies in the hood too Like swerve and shit Like you know it was so much shit Blackie this shit is like what I still ain't damn You know what I'm saying? Like damn Blackie my boy Blackie ain't God damn you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:06:31 But in the rap shit It's just like oh fuck I even was talking to my mommy yesterday Some old people that I didn't Like you know how you got family friends shit I didn't know I was just asking is this person a lot of that Man everybody did
Starting point is 01:06:43 Oh there's people that didn't even get back to you while you're a lot He ain't even get you. Wow. So how do you feel about all this bullshit that's been in the air about him? Man, you know me, though, man. Come on, you know my character already. So if I'm still dealing with him, you already know it got to be more to a situation.
Starting point is 01:06:59 Right. You know what I'm saying? It's going to be three sides to a story. His side, the side and the truth, you feel me? Mm-hmm. As long as somebody's story out of the truth, then that's what makes sense. Right. Other than that, you know, I can't speak on far as too much because it's my fit business anyway.
Starting point is 01:07:13 So, you know. Right. It's like, damn, how much do we give you on this interview with this being such a street situation? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I don't blame you for wanting to keep it sort of mellow. Hell yeah. I just came to really clear my hood name and clear my name when they're saying, oh, like, I don't know if the world think, you better, don't pull up on me think it's sweet or like the grapes turned up, turts on me. The homies are still, say, man, what's right is right and what's wrong is wrong. You feel me?
Starting point is 01:07:43 And that's just how we rocking. We ain't fin to say nothing on here that's going to incriminate my section. Nobody from my shit, nothing of that shit. We got to keep it my feet, you hear me. But I had to come at least, like Janky said, bro, do you know what type of friend, brother, daddy I am? With this type of shit on me,
Starting point is 01:08:05 all y'all got to clean this shit up. That's on baby Lokes. Like, bro, the reason I survived in all these state, cities, hoods, because it ain't no secret about my story I've been everywhere. It's because I, bro, you, ain't you, man. What the fuck? Have you been having a lot of people want to tap in with you, though,
Starting point is 01:08:25 who are either, like, concerned about it? Like my artist friends and shit like that? Yeah, like, just because part of one of the things 1090 Jake said in that video was basically, like, California got his own crazy-ass politics, so I can't even imagine how this is going to be handled. And I was sitting there watching the thinking, I don't really know either, yeah. Ain't nothing, ain't nothing. This big gang, right?
Starting point is 01:08:44 right here. Y'all trippin'all stupid. This Great Street. If y'all don't know, y'all know. Ask these people why I'm saying that. Nick, my reaction is what? Nick, this is Grape Street. Y'all already don't get along with anybody, right? It ain't even that. Like, who'll be playing with us? Like, what you mean? Like, that's crazy as hell.
Starting point is 01:09:01 But, uh, no, artists came, I mean, some artists sending their support. Here, I don't know. Artists send their support and, like, you know, just teams that I'm close with. But just like me, if I would have seen, seen this on somebody else, I want to see that shit get clarified too, because I ain't just saying too much online, because I ain't feeling, bro, I'm on parole until 2038, so I can't
Starting point is 01:09:22 get on there and do the screaming match. I can't do none of that shit. You think that could reflect poorly on you in terms of the probation and everything? How I'm doing this? Like, if you were to be on a streaming match with somebody? I pull up on you and blow your motherfuck brains up. That's not going to work. Man, I'm doing all that
Starting point is 01:09:39 stupid ass shit. Yeah. You feel I mean? But not not, not, if not, I'm not, if not other person or nothing. I'm just saying me. I'm not doing that. You know what I'm saying? I don't want nobody trying to say, O3D imitates at somebody something. Then it's a back and forth. Now we got to get on. Hey, listen, listen, listen. I just can't clarify what's going on. For real. The video on the way. The appeal, the habeas corpus on the way. So if I get that type of motion, y'all really going to hate a thing. I don't know what they're going to say next.
Starting point is 01:10:10 I'm great. And I mean, I know you and I know about your aspirations. And I know you don't. don't like being pigeonholed as like an L.A. rapper. And you don't want to be seen as the dopest rapper in L.A. Like, you really have been dead set on building a career for yourself as a real artist. And I know that you believe by the time you get done with this career years,
Starting point is 01:10:29 that the fact that you are an L.A. street rapper is not going to be the most interesting thing about you, right? She, I ain't tripping. She, whatever y'all don't know. I ain't even going to lie to you, bro. Like, I fuck different. type of holes, I eat different type of food, drive different type of cars now.
Starting point is 01:10:50 The only reason I came outside because this shit playing on my name. But all the other shit when niggas be playing, I don't be giving the fuck. I'll be off the water on grade. Something built up like a transformer on grave. I'm talking about something wild. What?
Starting point is 01:11:04 And she loves me on grade. You hear me? I'm living. I don't give a fuck about all that playful-ass shit with these people. I'll be living. I never, I never got to live life, Adam. I was dope.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Because you were super stressed out during the whole time that you were coming up. Can't get no money. Get some money. Blow it. Get high. Fuck something. It just was, I'm great.
Starting point is 01:11:26 Typical nickel from out here. You were still stacking money while you're locked up from the streamers and everything? Oh, yeah. That's different. Yeah, yeah. So you're still doing all right? You're like, you're not pressed about funds while you're locked up.
Starting point is 01:11:37 No, no. No, no. I'm doing immaculate. I'm doing it. But, it's got to be crazy. though for you to see somebody like Dub who you're wearing his shit right now
Starting point is 01:11:48 who, you know, he had some shit going on when you left, but he took it to a totally different level while you were gone. That's got to be pretty inspiring, right? Shout out to bro, man. Sure, Doug. Just seeing his factory or his way doing shit just
Starting point is 01:12:02 even the way our collabs be breaking down and coming together, everything. And bro's still so involved with everything, but he's still super my bro, like, Still super Got hell of memories with me Know all my music
Starting point is 01:12:17 Know what songs Lyrics put on the That shit is crazy It's on stage He records you I mean Like somebody record me Like man
Starting point is 01:12:25 Duff was like I do it He's only million Niggins down the stage Oh great Nigger worth a million dollars And you're like I'm gonna record you bro It's good
Starting point is 01:12:32 Oh great That shit crazy But So what do you feel like You're gearing up Towards in terms of like The shit you got Coming up
Starting point is 01:12:40 That's gonna take the career To another level See, these niggas fucked up. They did it wrong, you know me? So now, like, now, even now, no, niggas gonna be like on the comments, like, no, no, no. But now it's like, oh shit,
Starting point is 01:13:00 if this ain't right, this nigger is gonna be so viral. I'm saying them niggas that want the cloud off this shit because let me break it down to you did it wrong, dumbass, nigga. So now it's gonna be like, this nigger so stand-up, they got it on video,
Starting point is 01:13:15 How crazy of a moment is that going to be to see video of a big-ass rapper holding it down, almost getting killed on a kilo case? Never heard of it. What the fuck are you talking about? So now we're going to expose you niggas. Play with my name.
Starting point is 01:13:34 You weird as a bitch. My crime is out. He's with me. This shit's been to be big as a bitch. Stupid-ass niggas. Dumb-ass niggas. When we want to get on this entertainment, Let me talk to entertainer talk.
Starting point is 01:13:49 You dumbass. You stupid, motherfucker. And then you come out the next day and say, I just did it because of this. So we already know your shit is void. Stupid. All that shit, man, you still ain't got this shit. What the fuck is wrong with you? Look at that thing.
Starting point is 01:14:08 You niggas is crazy, man. This damage is on the back of this bitch. You niggas is crazy, man. Look at that thing. It's huge. It looks so fucking heavy. But what's wrong with them? And you know why I can wear this shit?
Starting point is 01:14:18 I ain't that little ass nigga no more. Who you took? talking to anyway on Grape Street. What's wrong with these people? So how do I feel? I feel fun. Damn, he's talking that shit. Hey, I got to go be a babysitter.
Starting point is 01:14:31 I'm sure you know the feeling. Oh, yeah, shout out to the family, too, man. I hope you ain't take my picture down, snitch-ass, nigger. I start explaining to the kids. I used to fault with this, nigga, he went and ratting. He broke my heart. It's the ratting, Gray Street. It ain't the wolf of Gracie.
Starting point is 01:14:47 Man, quit playing, okay. Oh, man. music on the way, big, big, big shit. Yeah. Any rapper who feel like y'all still want to stay on the other side, we ain't never tripping that. We ain't fucking with you. Like, if you ain't fucking with us, we ain't fucking with you.
Starting point is 01:14:59 Right. Just don't complain, okay? Me, personally, as a man, I'm just on some don't die shit, you hear me? Yeah. Fuck the tough shit. I ain't never fuck no bitches this bad. I ain't never drove no cars this fast.
Starting point is 01:15:15 I ain't never rock these shows and these holes got to... Bitches you are? Hold on. Stop this, my boy. You good? Are we good? Oh, that's all you twerk? It's going on.
Starting point is 01:15:25 Right. It's going on. I ain't fin of miss this, nigger, and you ain't fin to smut my name. You just, these people crazy, man. I don't want to answer to no diss-ones. Don't nobody want to hear them dis-ones. This shit ain't gonna make you hot, man. But I gotta hold this down for my hood.
Starting point is 01:15:45 I gotta hold this down for my friends that I lost. I gotta hold this down for my daughter, man. On some real shit, we ain't a sick time, man, for y'all to put you to put. play with a young person like that. Whoever, like, created this shit, we're in a sick time, bro. You put people's family in danger. You're not sure if this is facts.
Starting point is 01:16:02 You're playing games. It might be alter. I don't know. But at the end of the day, bro, we're in a sick time. I don't want to promote nothing like where I'm just trying to back and forth no individual while I'm on parole until I'm 50, nigga. I represent something different, but I had to come and speak my peace. You feel me?
Starting point is 01:16:20 No, I appreciate it. We got the part two on the way. And we all know. what you're capable of. So, I mean, much respect. And I'm just looking forward to it. I remember one of the first songs that you sent me right when you got home,
Starting point is 01:16:32 when you were still in Texas, you sent me a couple songs, and I was just like, oh, all right. This is like, this is what L.A. needs right now. And this is going to really do some actual fucking damage. So, yeah. And, bro, the J-Hob don't play that shit, bro. J-Haw ain't going to where.
Starting point is 01:16:50 I got thousands of songs. So even if I ever go, my people's good forever and ever. Nick, I can leave bro with a hundred songs. He still got a gang unreleased shit with it, and he still got to gang unreleased shit with it, nigga. Listen, bro. All that I don't want to rock with my hood,
Starting point is 01:17:05 nigga, I got to be careful, I got to be safe, I got to be strategic. It has nothing to do with the homies. I can't pull up to a domain that's camera down where I got to watch myself. I got to watch people around me. I got to worry about police pulling me out my car, in my car all down
Starting point is 01:17:23 and I'm on parole until I'm 50. I can't just be I can't, bro. And I'm sorry, I love you if you really miss me. I always try to get y'all around me the ones that's really my folks.
Starting point is 01:17:35 I get y'all to all my shit. I'm gonna definitely always do shit for my hood. I'm gonna always put my hood on my back. I'm always leave this motherfucker tat it on my face, you feel me? But don't try to make it seem like
Starting point is 01:17:48 y'all nobody got me hiding. First of all, I'm busy. Bitch, I'm booked up. on grade. I'm booked up. I'm booked. I was booked the day I got out of jail. What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:17:59 Niggins been working. But, oh, no. I'm saying love to your family, Adam. I appreciate it. I'm worried about none of the bullshit. Shout out Lisa. Yeah, shout out to her. I love for Lisa.
Starting point is 01:18:11 You know what I'm saying? But she's so viral. You know what I'm saying? But no, man. I was having to talk to her because she was telling me like how to communicate with me and shit. Right.
Starting point is 01:18:20 Even when we did the, uh, over the phone. Yeah, yeah. Much love to all of yours. Don't worry about nobody worrying about what you're doing. You do what you want to do, hear me? 100%. We're going up, man. I meant you because you see me in a little-ass space in the back of the store
Starting point is 01:18:32 about as big as this. Now we're in the big-ass warehouse. This nigga got a shark swimming in the flow in this bitch. This shit everywhere in this motherfucker. Now we got to do it. Now we've got to hustle to get that done so that nobody can call him a liar. Hey, sure. Hey, much love, bro.
Starting point is 01:18:46 It's amazing seeing you back in the streets. I'm going to go put the O3 greatest. hits on. I was listening to the new project the last couple of days. Now I'm going to go back to the classics. We ain't down when you know we're running out. No, that's what we do. Let's go. No-3 Grito. Much love. No-jumber. Coolest podcast. And world. Check us on YouTube, TikTok, Patreon. Like, comment, and subscribe. Honey, homie. Hombie's in this bitch. Nojumber.com if you want to support. We out.

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