No Jumper - 03 Greedo on Snitching Allegations, Coming Home from Prison, Drakeo's Death & More
Episode Date: July 14, 2023Adam and Greedo reunite for an exclusive interview about his case and his life since he was released! ----- 0:00 Intro 2:30 03 Greedo speaks about when he thought he was getting out of jail in 2038, ...and going on Parole 4:20 Adam asks about the difference between jail in California and Texas 7:35 Adam asks Greedo about the snitching allegations 10:15 03 Greedo introduces a friend who was in the car when he got caught, the story of getting pulled over and getting their car searched, DENIES ALL SNITCH ALLEGATIONS 14:40 03 Greedo talks about how life was prison, and explains how the lawyers helped him get out on parole 17:00 Adam talks about how snitching has become a huge issue in hip hop, how Greedo’s comments aren’t comparable to people like 6ix9ine and Gunna 18:50 03 Greedo calls Katie Qulaenbush and gives her a statement about Greedo’s case and explains the paperwork 1090 Jake “exposed” 25:00 Katie claims the police officers hid footage of the arrest and were denied attorneys when arrested 27:00 Katie says the police officers racially profiled Greedo and co-defendant, and were stopped because they are black 31:50 Greedo asks Katie why the police pointed a g*n to his head and says Greedo never said anything he was accused of 39:30 Adam asks Katie if she really sh*t a homeless man, and says it was in self-defense 40:00 03 Greedo talks about being angry about his allegations of snitching and claims his entire hood is behind him and believes him 46:50 Greedo says once people have allegations it’s hard to get out of that, even if proven innocent 48:00 Greedo talks about the difference between the Internet and the street politics 49:40 Lil 100 comes into the pod and gives his take on the Greedo case, says Greedo never sat down with a DA 53:40 Adam asks Greedo how he feels being sober 56:45 Greedo talks about how the world has changed since he was in jail, and how things changed in his hood 59:00 Greedo says he feel disrespected and wants to get back to making music instead of dealing with this drama and the state of LA Hip Hop 1:03:50 Adam asks Greedo about proposing to his girlfriend at his last show and breaking up with her 1:06:10 Trill enters the podcast and gives his opinion on the snitching allegations, Adam asks Greedo how he felt hearing about Drakeo's death while in prison 1:09:00 Adam asks Greedo if other artists have reached out or avoided working with him, and says the police video is on the way 1:12:10 Greedo speaks on the rise of Desto's brand while he was in jail 1:13:20 Adam asks what Greedo has planned for new releases, and says he’s got new music coming out ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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No jumper.
We need you, though?
You don't have to.
Coolest podcast in the world, and we're finally back with the man.
Yes, sir.
I'm just going to put this in perspective, is that on my fridge, since my kid was born,
I had three rappers, three photos of rappers on the fridge.
Juice World, rest in peace, X, rest in peace, and O3 Grito.
Yeah, that's my God.
I would always take my kid and hold her up and look at it, and I'd be like, all right,
these two, we're not going to get to see them.
This guy, he's going to be out soon.
I'm going to be able to introduce you to him.
Actually, I didn't say he's going to be out soon
because in my mind, it was like,
oh, I'm not going to see him for 10 plus years.
Right.
So it is kind of surreal for me to be around you,
just having expected that we weren't going to see you
for so much longer.
Exactly, exactly.
I'm happy to be back.
Yeah, man, no doubt.
Because it goes way back with us to the very early days of Melrose.
Yeah, early days of my real, like,
up.
Yeah.
So that's why I still rock with you heavy, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, no, definitely.
Outside of this.
Yeah.
So how's life?
How's it been getting back to normal?
Been good, you know what I'm saying?
Right back to work.
You know what I'm saying?
It's all type of stipulations and loops I got to jump through with still being on parole
to like 2038, but I'm still on the Texas parole here.
So it's kind of like walking on eggshells type of shit.
Right, because when you first got out, it was like you were stuck in Texas.
and they weren't trying to let you leave for a while?
Or I couldn't really tell what was real.
No, you just got to get transferred, you got to get transferred.
So I had to wait until I got an interstate compact.
So that's how I'm on Texas parole in California.
It's just like the parole out here is babysitting my real parole.
Okay.
So how often you got to check in?
Every month.
Every month.
And you can't be smoking weed or anything?
Can't be doing nothing, really.
You can't do anything.
I don't know.
Is that fraud?
Your lifestyle up a little bit, or is it all right?
No, I'm cooling, really.
I'm cooler.
It is what it is.
Just trying to get it.
You know, I still got action at getting off of parole through, like, this shit called
a habeas corpus.
Right.
It's kind of like an appeal for you, even though you took a deal.
You know what I'm saying?
So I got a lawyer for that and supposed to take care of that.
So hopefully I can just get that situated because the details behind my case is really like
they haven't been exposed, but it really was a lot of going on.
Okay.
And can we just go back in time a little bit to you sitting down?
And how many years in were you when you started to realize, like,
oh, shit, I might be able to get out of here earlier than the people thought?
I really didn't.
Oh, at first I thought I just was turning myself for a flat 20 because the time is different
now, your matter of fact.
Right.
And then when I got there, I'm like, damn, you know what I'm saying?
But I'm like, maybe they got some type of work program.
some fire camp like they got in California but they didn't though so when I got my paperwork
when I got to the prison there I'm like damn I see the release they say 2038 I'm like what
the fuck like that's when it's sitting in like damn you you you you just left from paradise
and you in prison yeah the long way you're in a whole other state it's hot as fuck like
what is this like so uh somebody was uh showing me how to
paper looking, another date said
2020.
And then, no, another day said
2027 as my other release date
and then another day said
20 20. And it said, that's your projected date
to see parole. So I have
20 years non-ag and they have
20 years ag. It's two different
ways that they sentenced you in Texas.
Right. So with ag, I would have to have
at least 10 and then they'll start
let me see parole every year. But with
non-ag, after my second year in jail,
I got to start seeing parole. They did
denied me twice, and then the third time I got to get out.
And what was the leverage that you had to tell them that you would be safe being out on the
streets, so is there anything in particular you had to do to show them that you were on good
behavior or something?
I mean, you got to stay out of trouble because in Texas they write you up and they call
it a case, and certain cases can stop you from making parole or certain shit like fights
or whatever, whatever.
It's all the type of shit that can just add up and fuck you a parole.
Right.
What was it like being that, I'm sure, being locked up in L.A. is way different than being locked up in Texas?
Yeah, it's way different.
It's just a whole, it's like, it's like a whole other world.
It's damn near the, it's not the opposite, but Texas prison system is kind of behind compared to California.
And you're not getting, like, to the access to the music or, you know what I'm saying?
I think they don't even, haven't even had phones.
in Texas prisons for that long, like more than 10 years.
I've watched a bunch of prison, like,
Texas reality show.
And it definitely seems like they're more hardcore out there
than they are in most states.
I don't know about more.
I mean, when you're in jail, it's like, fuck.
You know what I'm saying?
It's more like you mentioned was out there.
So either way, it was fucked up for me
just coming from, you know, where it was lovely.
My life was turning up.
But, like, prison system is just,
different. It's just, it's not even the same structure. Somebody that got life can be in the
cell with somebody who gets out tomorrow. Because I remember that night, because you were in the
studio with Dub, Pump, Purp, Uzi, I think, that's the list of people. And I remember just
a mansion that pumps mansion. Yeah, I remember hearing about that from Dub and realizing, like,
that was the exact environment that you left up out of it to turn yourself in. Like, you missed a flight.
probably weren't really trying to make the flight
and just like you're in like the greatest state that you could be in
and like your music career literally had just been soaring upwards
for like a couple of years there at that point
and then just at the height of all of it
maybe at the best studio session
or at least the most star-studded studio session that you'd have
and all of a sudden you got to go no now I'm sitting in a fucking metal room
cemented metal.
Yeah, I don't know if I missed a flat on purpose or not
I think I was so like
numb, I was just floating, like, whatever life taking me, like, whatever I'm...
I don't even know, bro, I was like, that shit, that shit, that shit sucked.
That shit was...
That shit.
That shit.
I heard it.
To just come from, like, becoming who I wanted to be.
Even now, like, I know we're going to get to it, but even now, like, all the shit
playing with my name, like, after what I really went through, it really, like, oh, shit.
And then I want to react so many different ways.
but it's like, man
it doesn't trick you out
your spot game too so it's like
God damn
so just
mentally
I'm trying my best
to stay
level headed and grounded
strategic
strategic okay
I don't want my temper
to fuck up my strategy
you did
because there's people associated
with the recent
Hold on, hold on.
Okay, yeah, let's just talk about it.
What, like, so was this something that you ever thought was going to be an issue,
or is this something that totally just blindsided you over the course of the past
a few weeks?
It totally blindsided me because in my situation, which is even with the young lady that
worked on the case that became viral was trying to put out there, is, I haven't had a platform
to talk about my case, so even when all this is cleared up with the videos and all shit,
like, people don't know.
I just went through some shit where I almost got killed and everything, you know what I'm saying?
So it's just like, what the fuck is this shit?
Like, there's some paperwork they play with because I don't have my discovery yet.
I want to make sure I could have came here with some paper that somebody gave them.
But I'm like, bro, we need to know everything all at once, drop it down.
But what we came here to do is clarify what we're talking about and what we seen and what we heard about how all my homies pulled up with me.
and they in the lobby ain't nobody
or no grape saying this and all that
that's not what's going on
and I'm trying my best
not to do too much
of the back and forth
with any individuals
that are playing on the internet
because that's not what we represent
over here in my section
and that ain't gonna do nothing
but I mean that's like telling on
whoever you beefing with her
I don't know it's like a whole web
but like being in this situation
with quote unquote
street individuals
was just like mind boggling.
But hell yeah, like,
nigga, on grape,
like, it's mind-boggling
because on grape, I ain't say that.
Now, on grape, I can't,
that, oh, yeah, shut the fuck up
in the back of the car.
Now, that's, what the fuck?
But then they have a nigga say it
in his way and saying,
oh, well, you know we got some,
man, that's so on baby low crypt stop playing with me.
Like, yeah.
Like, man, come on, bro.
Like.
Because it's not a recording.
It's basically just like,
what a cop wrote down that you said.
It's a police report.
And then the only thing that are in quotes is when I said, shut the fuck up.
Nothing else is in quotes.
So then it doesn't make sense when it says that I was driving on some of it.
Then it says I try to get over into the driver's seat.
Well, if I was driving, how I try to get onto the driver's seat?
How is he in the car if y'all just got him out of the driver?
So how is this not adding up with this on the same pieces of paper?
But it's still something that we treat it's valid on the Internet.
I can't beat the Internet.
So I ain't really been playing that route, you know what I'm saying?
but as far as me being a gangster, a man
representing this great street shit,
she got to get cleared up.
You feel me?
So, hell yeah, that shit blindsided me.
I did the time.
I'm still on parole.
My bro right here is with me.
He's not in jail.
Right.
So you're the dude that he was in the car with
when you all got caught up.
That's pretty legendary in and of itself.
So, I mean, do you want to talk about
what happened with that whole trip and everything
that you guys were on?
on a mission, I guess, like, you know,
handling some property, let's say.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
And was it that you guys were sleeping in a parking lot somewhere,
or did you just get pulled over?
No, we got pulled over.
We were sleeping in a parking lot.
All right, that's just something I heard over the years,
I guess wasn't true.
But so, I mean, I don't know how much
you want to lay out the situation or whatever,
but the cops pull you over,
and they felt like you were acting nervous
and they ended up searching the trunk.
Yeah.
basically they was going to search the car anyway
they just you know when we got put over they
act like they smell weed or whatever
you think that was cap yeah
that's just like the ultimate excuse for cops to search anybody
how live am I to be smoking weed
and that's what I thought when I heard it I was like
we didn't have no weed with nothing so that was right
there's no weed in the evidence
so that's already some other shit there but
it's so much shit that's so much shit
that's fucked up about how the police handle this on top of this.
You feel me?
So it's just we're talking to story,
so we're going to try to,
we don't want to act like we shine away from nothing that need to be brought up.
So before we leave, it's still like, no, we don't try to dance.
We ain't doing no dancing, but I'm great.
Shit, I was in the passenger side, sleep, you feel me?
So how, how, where I said it at like on great, so you're saying,
who I'm talking to saying,
Listen, listen, listen, I'm under arrest, you hear me?
Well, whatever the case is, I'm going to be under arrest.
We know what's going on.
I'm under the police.
The police is right here, you feel me?
Why the fuck am I saying something illegal is going on?
I feel like something illegal going on.
Bitch, I'm going to go to jail too.
I'm under arrest.
Why would I say, I feel like something illegal going on?
Right.
And we were together that whole time.
So when I said that, do you think, if I was with this nigga next to him,
or if he was with me next to me
and somebody said,
I feel like something illegal going,
we ain't going to the man, that's all.
Yeah, I wouldn't have that.
Right, because they said that you said
that you got paid $3,000 to do this drive
and that you felt like something illegal was going on.
Yeah, that's cat.
If you were saying that right in front of your partner
who you were with, I mean, that doesn't,
it's kind of hard to happen.
Mind you, this is,
I went to jail for this two years later,
kept running and getting caught.
Right.
If I'm a tail on the nigger,
why they keep coming,
trying to get me why they ain't finding his
location why they won't me to they
come in and keep getting the snitch
they came and got the snitch again
out of what the fuck okay
so where my part
of the deal win at then
I'm still on parole
till I'm fucking 50
right
what I'm winning off this year
okay I just did five I just left June
2018 I came back
what is this what month is this now
July 2023 this is five years later
but it's seven years from the actual stop.
So seven years after the actual stop,
all of a sudden, I'm a snitch.
Right.
Huh?
What the fuck is this?
And it fucked my head up for days
because I'm like, what is that paper on?
Grathingy, what is that?
Because I never got my discovery.
I had a paid lawyer that even didn't do
what he was supposed to do,
which is why I have action at habeas corpus
because of ineffective counsel.
why didn't my lawyer go file the same motions that his team did
so I didn't even know I could get out of jail
I was already in jail for two years before he went to jail
if I told on this nigga instead of
giving the nigga I'm telling him I'm gonna get on the plane
and turn myself in right when I was just with all these rappers
you just named yeah huh yeah it doesn't make a lot of sense
what the fuck so instead of just staying in this mansion
and saying he's right here right
Huh?
So anyways
Okay, so I'm fucked up
You know what I'm saying?
So I'm just doing my time on grave
Everybody say, oh, O3, look like you ganges white bitch
Have you seen a Texas, nigga?
I'm down here squabbing and everything
I'm real life on the main light
PC up.
This is a fucking real prison
I'm going through it in this bitch
I'm catching COVID in this bitch
Niggas dying in this bitch
Niggas off tune
Dying off tune
Niggins snort and shit
That's why I don't snort shit no more
because, I don't see niggas that I hang with,
niggas that I shake hands with,
just die in front of, man, listen,
I just went through some traumatizing shit on grape
and I'm carrying this shit on my chin.
I'm taking this shit, bro.
That song, baby loke, you niggas got me fucked up.
That song, Grace G-Wides.
How I'm telling on the nigga I picked up.
On my shit?
What is this?
What game we playing?
So I was in the Twilight Zone,
but when that lady started coming,
I don't even know this woman.
You feel me?
Yeah, Katie.
Yeah, Katie.
She's part of my attorney.
Katie Quack.
Yeah.
Her father sent me a letter and was breaking down and we're going to bring all that shit.
We bring a letter.
Once we get the whole discovery, we want to break down the video.
We want all that shit.
You got me fucked up.
And he was telling me about how had a chance of getting out.
Mind you, I keep saying, it's habeas corpus shit.
I ain't never heard of that shit.
I ain't never knew you could get out if you took a deal.
But there's other shit with that text.
I don't know if they have that even out here.
that even out here
I don't know.
I never heard of it, you feel me?
So anyways,
his team
contacted the lawyer
that I hired to help me.
Why the fuck would his team
be helping me
if I told on him?
Why would this lady
break her silence
and go ham with all these details
not giving the fuck
don't know me?
Right.
If I told on him,
what?
Did it ever answer
into your mind
at any point during this
that Grito had done?
anything inappropriate during the arrest or afterwards or was this like something that you
first thought about when the video came out the other day?
No, I never put that out today, he told them. I never had them feel like that. I never felt
like that. He would have known. He would have knew if I felt like that. We won't
hiding them from each other. Hey, I'm gonna tell him how I feel. He'll tell me how you feel.
I never felt like that. Right. Yeah, because I mean, at least in terms of like the snitching
allegation thing in hip-hop now, we've seen a lot of different kinds. You got like the six
thing where he blatantly made a deal
to tell on his homies. You got the gunna
thing where they basically made him
agree to a statement that inferred
that his label had a criminal
element to it. And then this is
like kind of a totally different thing because
the only allegation is
that you said
a couple of things that would maybe
look bad or be considered inappropriate
during the course of the arrest,
which is like, you know, it's just
like a very minor thing in comparison
to a lot of the stuff that we've seen.
Even what was said, though, I feel like if he did say, that ain't even telling, though.
He never said nothing is his.
He never said that.
So tell him would be a far-fetched.
Even if he was to say what they said on that paper, that wouldn't be telling.
Right.
So that's like a far-fetched.
I don't get that part like, nah.
But, I mean, even at that point—
I don't believe he said what was on there.
But at that point in your life, you've already been through the system at times.
You already know what is appropriate and not appropriate for a gangster to say.
So it's like, why would I say that?
What is my motive?
on, like, that man, that don't make sense.
Like, on grape, like,
I feel like something illegal's going on.
I think if they didn't put that in there,
it would have made a little more like, yeah,
bitch, I'm under arrest.
Why the fuck would I say something illegal going on?
Right, like that's going to get you out of it right then and there.
You know what?
Some bad shit going on.
I'm sorry, let me, no, nigger.
Fuck is going on right here.
Y'all got all type of shit.
Sit your black ass.
Ain't nobody fin of.
Then they try to act like a nigga had an interview with the DEA on grave.
They walked us in there with the DEA, sat us down,
started to interview us, tried to interview us both asked for our attorney.
And I want to call somebody if it's all right.
Do it, yeah.
But, uh...
For sure.
Yeah, man.
I mean, it has been a pretty wild thing.
So, because there's really no way to prove that what the cops wrote down
was actually something that you said.
Except, except the video.
And there is video that we're going to have access to at some point.
Can you point that up to the mic?
Where the mic be at when it's on speaking?
Right on the bottom, yeah.
Right here?
Hey.
Hey.
Hey, Katie.
Hi.
Hi, Katie.
Hey, I'm sitting here with Adam and Justin,
and we're just touching up on, you know, everything that's trying to be put on my name
and how you feel about it and why you feel about it because, like Adam just said when I called,
there's no way to prove that what a police writes on the paper is true,
and I told him except a video.
Can you tell them why I'm saying that?
Well, first of all, I'll start out with that I was not the attorney on the case.
That's good.
I was a paralegal for the co-defendant who 1090 Jake tried to say was ratted on.
So we were for the person that 1090 Jake tried to say was the what was the person who was rat, right?
So when you're hired as an attorney and all of these things, that you go 100% for that client.
And with that being said, is at this point in time, Justin, the co-descendant, had gone on the run.
And he was arrested about two years later after OTHERGROTO signed his plea deal.
And the reason that Justin was finally, while he went on the run was his daughter was having a heart surgery.
And he didn't want to miss that heart surgery for his daughter.
So he went on the run for that, which is extremely admirable.
He was then put, he was taken by bounty hunters.
And they took him into jail.
And that is when he hired my father, Jesse Quackamush.
I was a paralegal for my father, Jesse Quackamush.
And at this point, O3 Grotto had already been in jail, taking a plea deal.
And his case was resolved to the extent of what everybody thinks it is now.
It wasn't until I, you know, we took the case.
And my job for being my, the paralegal, was to look at all of the evidence.
And I would make a report back to my dad.
I would skim through every single ounce of the evidence, which when you deal with a defendant
and a co-defendant, you have the same discovery.
And anybody who doesn't know, discovery is all of the evidence.
and when we were going through it, I realized that there was, there was no police footage in this thing.
And I told them, I said, okay, there's something going on weird with this, with this, with this case.
Like, why are there no police footage?
So I had to go down to the Randall County DA,
and go and bang on the window and demand that footage from them
because they were trying to hide it.
And my dad had told me there's a reason,
you know, they were caught with an extreme amount of methamphetamine.
And there was a reason that that never went federal.
And that the reason it didn't go federal was because,
because it was a bad case.
So 1090, Jake wants to say DEA agents.
The reason it did not ever go to a actual DEA agent was because it was a bad case.
A bad case, meaning that it wouldn't have stood up in court under the scrutiny that the feds would have
had it under?
Well, this is the worst part is that O3Gridos, an original attorney, never looked at the footage.
He never looked at the footage.
he never looked at anything
and the reason that he signed
the plea deal that he did was because he was
caught with a firearm and he was a black
man from California
and his
original attorney
did not ever
try to fight for him
he didn't look at any of the footage
he didn't even try
all he did was say okay
you were a black man and you were caught
you're a felon and you were caught
with a firearm take this
plea deal or you're going to end up in life in prison and just gave him a plea deal and that was that is what
happened so then after othigrido was in jail for i think about a year justin was then um taken in by
the um bounty hunters and that's when the the uh case came onto our plate
And when that case came onto our place, I saw that there was a lot of this.
There was so much that was wrong with this case.
And I said, I told my dad, I said, there's something really wrong here.
There's something going on.
Why are they not?
You know, I deal with murder cases.
I deal with horrific cases.
And I was wondering, and we have police footage for all of them.
and they wouldn't give us the police footage.
And so then it took me to get the police footage
to go bang on the door of the DA's office
to get this police footage from them
because they thought that we could just sweep it under the rug
and just, you know, Justin's was a black dachalb.
Why would they be hiding the footage on?
They were hiding the footage because they knew they fucked up
because it was a bad stop to begin with.
it was not only did they never read you to your Miranda rights you and Justin both asked for an attorney during the interrogation and they kept
the police officers are trained to interrogate to get information out their methods that they use that to interrogate defendants
so that they can go and basically rat on people, as Sinan D.J says.
And they can manipulate people who are in the worst situations of their lives to say things that they don't really need to.
And my job was to, you know, I was never the attorney on the case.
I'm not saying I'm an attorney.
I was never an attorney.
However, I was a paralegal that did all the grunt work on this case.
When we went and looked at the footage, I was so deeply disturbed by this footage that, I mean, O3Grito had a gun to his head for 11 minutes.
And what he was saying was, let me get to my show.
I want to just make music.
they then took him after 11 minutes and this is before George Floyd okay this is before everybody was hyper-vigilant on black people's lives this is before all of that that before anybody gave a fuck right they put him they pulled them over and put a gun to his head in the middle of a pasture of the mill of nowhere with fucking cow patties
to his head basically.
You tried to do anything?
Like, why did they...
Put a gun to his head.
And, you know, I spoke...
He wants to know, he wants to know
why did they do that?
Yeah.
There was, there was...
Do you feel like there was...
So when they did that,
so that when they did that,
the reason they did that was,
um,
the original,
why they decided to pull them over
was they were saying that he was passing.
He was staying in the left,
lane too long.
And that's a passing lane.
And, um, however, when we went and looked back at the footage, Justin, co-defendant was in the
passing lane because there was four cars in.
And this is all caught on video.
There's four cars.
And he was passing them.
And there was an exit lane on the right hand side.
It's a two-lane highway.
And he, um,
Um, if it was a person who was in a nice car, wasn't a rental car, and wasn't black, it would have never been a big deal.
However, they were in a rental car.
They're black and they were running through West Texas.
Well, let me tell you, if you believe it or not, it's a little racist around here.
And they racially profiled them.
They pulled them over for something that.
And when this originally happened, I couldn't.
believe it. This is before the George Floyd crap. And I couldn't believe it because, you know,
we are from different worlds. I am a rich attorney's daughter. I never saw racial profile in real life.
And I, I didn't believe what I just saw because there's so many times that I've sucked up
and I've drawn in the left lane so many times. So after I saw, I saw it. So after I saw,
this footage that was so bad, I went and drove, these police officers stay under the certain
underpass, and that's where they stay, and that's where they get their photos. And I drove there
five times in a row, and I recorded it on video. The first time I went through it, I was in a
Porsche, and, you know, I'm a white, and I had bleached blonde hair, and I was speeding 85 miles
per hour. They never pulled me over. Then I said, I'm going to swerve in front of them
and see if they call me over. They never pulled me over. And then I said, I'm going to go back
on that pass and do exactly what, you know, Jason and Justin did. I'm going to do exactly what they
did as a white woman and see if they pull me over. And I'm going to be on my cell phone while I do it.
And I did. And I recorded it on my phone. And I was so disgusted that the fact that the fact
that being just a bleach blown white girl, they didn't even look. However, the fact that they both
were black and they both were in their cars, the rental car, it grew a suspicion. Why? Because
they were black. And they got pulled over. It doesn't matter what was in their vehicle.
what matters is what the fourth amendment is and that is you have a right to search and seizure and that was not
applied at all they tried to use um and the in the when they first searched them they tried to say oh we smell
marijuana and just and jason were completely honest and they said you know we smell
in New Mexico, which where it's completely legal.
And cops in the state of Texas, if you're running through it, if they even say you have smoked marijuana and it smells like marijuana, they can use that as a bypass of the fourth minute of search and seizure.
So during this whole interrogation, and I know more than the attorneys, of course I have not accredited.
an attorney at right now, but I do know
it's...
What made them want to shoot at me?
Yeah, why was the gun to his head?
I know more than the attorneys, because this is a thing.
You know, when you're an attorney,
you're only as good as your paralegal.
And a paralegal does all the grunt work.
So I transcribed every single video.
I looked at every single thing.
What does it transcribe videos mean?
What do you mean?
Writing out the words?
I mean, all of the videos.
I had to word for word type them out.
So in them videos, do you, do you remember me saying all this shit that these allegations are?
No, you never did.
But what was what was going on at that moment when they aimed a gun at me?
Did I try to, did I try to climb over to the driver's seat in the video?
No, you never climbed over to the driver's seat.
And this is all on video.
This is all on video.
First of all, you're, you wouldn't have been able to because you and Justin will
so goddamn, I mean, scared.
I mean, you have, you guys are
in the middle of Texas where they take
black people hide. It was so
sunshine, bright. You better not try
to get in the driver's seat.
Yeah.
Fuck as I'm gonna, man.
Exactly. They wanted your hide
for a trope. So, Katie,
are we, Katie, are we ever
going to be able to see this video footage?
You hear us, Katie. Katie.
Katie. Katie. Katie.
You got to interrupt
the monologue here.
Do we, do we, are we ever going to be able to see
footage of the arrest or of any of this stuff that would that would I mean that is up to him to release
and his attorney I got I got the attorney getting a video okay hey but we want to ask you we want
to ask you one more thing because we don't want to take up the whole interview right but can you
tell us why did they have the gun to my head they have to get gun to your head because you were a
black guy from California in a rental car and they thought that he were a a hood person
That's why.
Did I make any sudden move or anything to make them want to do?
No, no, no.
The video of you having gone to your head,
and this is before George Floyd things where it really impacted white people a lot.
The video of the gun to your head impacted me so much that, you know,
it made me go from a girl, a single mother with a GED,
to where I am now with a political science degree and go to college because of how horrible it was.
You kept repeating to the police officer, and I talked to your mother on the phone about this,
you were repeating the police officer. I'm just trying to get to my show. I'm just trying to get to
make music. And he didn't care because when you were with a gun to your head, you were not 03 grade. You were Jason
and Jamal Jackson.
And, you know, people like 1090, Jake, want to say all of this street credit.
But what is so humbling is that, you know, police don't care about your street credit.
That's another point on the federal system.
You know, when you walk into a courtroom, nobody cares who the fuck you are.
You are known by your birthday.
And that's important because I think that,
The thing that 1090 Jake is doing is really malicious on the fact that we should all be praising the fact that there is a black man that is out of prison in the state of Texas.
And you are not a statistic to mass incarceration of black men.
You got to, you know, at the end of the day, you got to go home to your daughter.
You got to go home to your mother.
I think your dad was telling me that y'all wouldn't even have been able to work the case for just in how you did if I would have cooperated.
Never, never.
And in the back of the car, I will talk about the cooperation thing.
As I saw the whole entire video, I actually transcribed it, which means that I have to type out every word verbatim in that video.
And I wasn't going to say a damn thing.
I wasn't good of saying a damn thing
I mean before all this
I didn't listen to your music I'm from fucking Amarola
Texas I mean I like young dolls
and things like that
Long live dog
You know I'm not like
Super into the culture
Anything like that
You know so I
But when I was working the case
I was working the case is that you are a human
You are just as I
And you deserve a chance just as I
And
when we were doing it
in the back of the car
what happened
in the back of the car
you
the only thing that was said
about $3,000
was that
first of all
Justin
Justin if you're listening to this
I love you sweetheart
I'm so sorry
but baby you were
scared out of his fucking mind
and there's a video of Justin
when they caught the drugs
and it's so funny
because he just absolutely looks like
going to shit his pants.
And it's the funniest part of the hell damn video.
It's so freaking funny.
And I love so much.
If they found my mess,
I might feel like I was going to shit my pants too.
Yeah.
I don't want to discredit how cool you are because you are great.
No, I ain't worried about that.
However, he looked like he's got to shit his pants.
And he, in this video, he's the one, the co-defendant,
which 1090, Jake, tried.
to say is the that you rat it on.
Okay, first of all, we are the attorneys for the person that 1090J is saying to rat on.
Okay.
And, you know, I picked up your co-defendant from jail.
You know, I've been in contact with him, the whole entire time.
And this is the thing is that when y'all were in the back of the car, you know what you
did you actually played it better than Justin Justin was scared of shit he's never been in trouble
before like that and he was like saying oh man oh man what did I do oh god oh fuck and what you did
to calm down Justin because he's losing his shit like oh fuck he also at the time had a
woman who was pregnant and he's about to miss the birth of his child so he's going through all this
Like, you know, Justin, bless your heart, you have a shit lot of kids.
In his mind, during this, all this, he's thinking, I'm never going to see my kids again.
And the whole time he's saying, oh, man, oh, man.
And what you did was say, we'll talk about this later.
We'll talk about this later.
We won't, we won't go further.
Let's talk about this later.
and you they kept trying to interrogate you and they used every method to interrogate you both they separated y'all they used all of the techniques that they are trained to do to um to interrogate you and manipulate you and turn you guys against each other and i will say it was very admirable because you guys both remained for others throughout at all you know this is my dog but look we don't want to take up the whole interview yeah katie
Can I just, Katie, can I just ask you one question before we get off the phone?
Katie, Katie, he has one question for you, Katie.
Did you really shoot a homeless guy?
Yes, I did because he was attacking me.
And she's free legally.
Hey, I support him, man.
We got to get rid of him somehow.
Yes, I did.
I did shoot a homeless person.
We got a few more down here in Skid Row.
We need you to come take care of.
I ain't in it.
Thank you, Katie.
Katie, we got to go because we don't want to take up the interview.
You kind soul you.
Yeah, he was attacking me and I shot him.
and I did the most
gangsters thing that a lot of people
are going to go to trial.
Hey, we all wanted to do it.
We've all wanted it.
And I took it to trial
and 12 people who had no idea
who I was, so I mean, not guilty.
Where did you shoot him?
That was because this motherfucker was a crazy
schizophrenic and he lived in a big city.
You know, these motherfuckers are crazy.
And he came up on me
and he fucked with the wrong bitch for Texas.
Hey, Kay.
All right, Kay.
All right, I appreciate you.
Thank you so much.
That was very informative.
She really believes in y'all.
But look, look.
But look.
This shit was seven years ago.
I know how I rock, bro.
Even my bro, he told me somebody asked him,
is Grito mad because I'm not really saying a lot in public?
What did you tell him, Jake?
I told him, fuck, Maddy Furious.
I know what he's standing for.
He wasn't doing nothing like that.
If somebody...
I told this nigga
because I know people probably like,
nigga, fuck all that.
I heard the record it.
Look, bro.
If somebody came to me
and the names were switched
and they had that paper,
I might say some shit worse
than that this bitch-ass-niguer.
Paws to be my dog.
You weird-ass-nigua.
And now you go blow up this reaction.
But how did you know
that you should be recording at that time?
You feel what kind of games be you playing?
You know what I'm saying?
I was out of a yard court.
But at the end of the day,
if somebody tried to present it to me,
I told this nigga,
I told this nigga even again recently,
bro, it was a million times
while I sat in prison before he got there,
which was almost two years,
not one,
but the lady brought up.
Hell yeah,
I thought my boy told him me a million days.
I thought a million different scenarios.
I replayed this day
100,000 fucking times
while I sat in that motherfucking hot-assail in Texas.
You feel me?
Did I try to put something out there
or act like this,
This nitch, hell no, nigga, I was in my feeling because I was locked up,
and I don't know why this nigga ain't locked up.
This nigga, swift.
You feel me?
I'm like, nigga, this nigga is thugging in the projects.
It's eating my head up.
I say, man, what the fuck?
Yeah, because how did you only get six months in comparison to him?
I caught another case.
I was fighting another dad for that.
The only reason I said as long as I did,
because I had two other cases that I had actually got arrested for the time,
and that just popped up with my fingerprints.
So they couldn't come get me until I was done with them.
Oh, okay.
So by the time they got me,
They wouldn't even worried about me.
That's how I got the little deal I got.
Because they had already got him, so they weren't really tripping about you?
They wouldn't even looking for me no more.
Really?
I got caught on a whole other case.
And then my fingerprints just popped up.
So when I was done with that case, then they came and got me like, shit.
Okay, but I got to ask this.
The paperwork was basically like being shopped around, being sent to people by some guys that you used to be cool with
who clearly have an agenda where they want to put out a narrative about you, right?
Yeah, see, now when it comes to that, I'm a real gangster.
I'm a real player.
So strategically, I know not to get too much on individuals
that may have created this uproar.
You did?
What I can say is, if those individuals are saying that's why they're upset,
then that's on y'all to understand.
They're telling you what they're doing and why they're doing it.
You feel me?
But as far as me, I represent this Great Street shit,
and I know it's niggas
that might have been in the hood
longer than me
or in the streets
probably more than me
I don't know
but on a worldwide level
I got to fucking represent this shit
so that's why I pulled up
with the homie
the homies out here
the homies are coming here
to whoever feel like
they got something to say
about how they push
in the narrative
online that my hood is mad at me
nigga
I love this hood
this hood love me
this shit is on my face
this shit is my fucking name
right
what is wrong
with you. If I was a snitch, you think I'm gonna go so. I would be the boldest.
I have whoever else beat.
Niggin, you gonna bang this shit hard like that and you know you are straight snitch?
Oh man, listen, bro.
I don't know about the individuals that created the upward.
What I know is that shit ain't facts.
That shit ain't facts. And I'm still with my dog.
I ain't give them no money to come right here.
This is my dog, nigga.
Our kids look at us like uncles.
I talk to this nigger son every week, two, three times a week.
What's up on what we doing?
Right.
Even when it's she happening, what the fuck is they talking about that?
You feel, me?
People, what world is we in where people get to playing with a nigga life name and family
like that, nigga?
The truth going to come out, you hear me?
We already, we already got, I didn't want to come here and play with somebody else's
papers because we don't know if this is something that's doctor.
We don't know if this is a police report.
which like we said, a police could say that.
Ain't none of that shit that's that bullshit and quotes with me.
You feel me?
Y'all quote when the nigga told the nigga be quiet, chill out, you feel me?
And whatever words y'all put that in.
Where to interview?
Why I see all that other shit that be when they expose a snitch where say a nigger
say a statement and sign his name?
Just like my nigga P. Jr. said,
nigger did it have a statement quoted in a signature?
But, nigga, that ain't no motherfucking paperwork.
Nick, I don't know, nigga.
I don't know.
Honestly, bro, what I was going to tell them about my shit.
Right.
One thing is, I never got pulled over with bricks,
but in my mind growing up,
and just like I would imagine other people,
nigga, we get caught with bricks, we're over with.
That's all we know what I'm telling you that for.
Because when you're doing those drives,
that's the only thing you got to think about, right?
It's what am I going to say if I get pulled over?
We know, hey, nigger, shit to get real.
We can die.
We can go get a life sentence.
Then police is fucked up on that case.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I can't think for nobody else.
I don't know if they were going to keep me in there longer.
But I know once they start sending me them letters telling me I had action,
I hired a lawyer and I started going to the attorney visits and shit.
All of a sudden now, a nigga can make parole.
You feel me?
Mm.
But I don't want to never on this say something.
that I don't know for show.
So that's the only reason I asked the young lady
to speak her part
because at the end of the day,
it was seven years ago.
I know I didn't do no telling.
So I'm not going to do no safe shit like the life.
So I don't remember everything and shit
if y'all do see some shit.
No, I'm not saying that.
But I never wanted to say,
oh, that shit fake.
Oh, you niggas doing this.
Oh, what y'all are you racist?
I see it right there.
Because once it come out that that's still what happened,
it's like, yeah, all the evidence is cool,
but why cause lying?
And then at the end of the day,
one thing I got to deal with,
I'm down for whatever nigga playing with me, though.
I got to deal with for the rest of my life.
If you say something like that about somebody, a snitch, a traitor, or some sexual fucked-up shit,
whether they get proved innocent or guilty for the rest of their life,
for the rest of their legacy, certain individuals are going to be like,
man, that niggas is a snitch.
So it's putting people that will play with me in danger or me in danger,
and I'm on parole till 2038.
Is this how we plan?
Yeah, no, what do you think the motivation might be, though, for certain people that used to be in your life to want to smear you like that?
What camera on?
This one probably, yeah.
Can you ask me that question again?
Why do you think people want to get at you right now?
Because you got a 20-pound chain?
Maybe you got the cough syrup chain, too.
I could use one of those.
Why are they mad?
Let me ask you something.
You're not a street dude.
You're my partner, though.
so I'm never going to belittle you saying you know the street dude
why I'm saying that I'm not saying it
I'm well aware you're my real partner though
appreciate so um
you not even being from the streets
if you heard some dudes
knew a dude that was
around them or the people they around
heard he was a snitch you would think man
that motherfucker's been to kill that nigga right
I've heard of it yeah
well
this is the internet
with the internet
if I respond wrong, if I even send
the wrong shit towards the young man
that's just doing his job, I ain't mad at no 1090 J.
If anything happens to them,
now it's going to look like, oh, Greedo didn't like that shit they did.
So it's like this is a safety, safety for whatever.
I don't know.
This is not some, I don't understand.
So anyways, it's on the internet.
I don't even know how I react.
to such an insult because this is the internet version.
And not only are you from the streets,
but you also just did five years behind bars.
So it's like these are two places that are very different from the internet.
If someone says something bad about you in your hood or in prison,
they get hands in a different way, right?
Hey, um, hey, what homies we got right there?
Go on.
Hey, open that door.
What's going on with you?
How are you doing?
What's going on, do?
How you doing?
I'm good.
Okay.
introduce yourself I'm Lil 100 little 100 from the Jordan Downs oh okay I've seen
your shit over the years yeah yeah I met you before we met a few times right okay
yeah so yeah what's your thoughts on all this shit this has been my dog since we
was you know from back in the G I met a dog you know a few years ago and there we since
we met we've been cool you feel me like dogs but for some snitching type shit y'all
just seen his crime me just left from right here you feel like when a nigger time
of our nigger sat down with the D and all that type of shit you know people be
paint narratives and all that shit for their own motives, you know.
Niggas be having motives to do shit,
but ain't no niggas sit down with no DA
and made no statements or put nobody in jail
and all that type of shit, you know.
Snitching is really putting a nigga in jail.
Nobody put no nigga in jail.
As far as my stands on it, I'm standing with him.
Like, I don't go to fuck about with no motherfucker
talking about no motherfucking rap shit
and none of that shit, because this shit deeper than rap.
They ain't even about rap.
Like, you feel me?
I don't got. And about no music or none of that shit.
Like, it's shit too real.
Yeah, so.
That's part of the narrative that's kind of been put out there is that
Grito's being exposed by his homies from Grape Street, et cetera,
which I assume that that makes other people feel like,
oh, this must be real because it's people that used to be around saying it.
But you know, when it comes like that,
when these people used to be around saying that shit,
then you always know it got to be a motive.
We got to be something behind it.
Like ain't 10, 15, 20 niggas, real gangster niggas standing behind the nigger
when the nigga did some fuck shit like that, you feel me?
So it's just too much to be said.
Like, all that shit.
is out the window.
A nigga standing with his dog on Bezzi.
A nigga see this shit evident.
All that shit is flawed.
100%.
Yeah, straight like that.
How many homies you think I got right here right now?
10.15 out there?
Yeah, there's plenty of us out here.
Forrest speaking on something,
I'm like one of the top niggas at the chain.
Food ring of this Great Street shit.
So a nigga go by the book.
So if a nigga looking at the book and see what it is, it's evident.
Like, so a nigga don't want to hear none of that shit.
On Bezzi, I do music too.
It ain't about no music.
And they could be having all type of comments and all that shit,
talking about some features and all that shit.
They don't give a fuck about that.
Nigger Ben talked to his dog about music.
He already know what I'm on.
I don't go to a fuck about that.
I'm getting so much money chilling these last years,
but we'll get to that later, but it's deeper than rap.
We don't get a fuck about that right now.
It's not about a feature.
For real, it's my dog.
Fuck, he care about a feature, probably got 50 already.
I got unreleased music.
I never released when my dog was in jail.
I just didn't even know what was going on.
There's like two, a nigger been,
there's so much shit been going on.
been conversating and dealing with him since he's been in jail,
writing letters talking the whole time.
He's like, there's like, there's so much weird shit been going on.
I ain't got to tell no people.
Fuck an iPad or J. Pay and then write me letters with his hands.
Like, I didn't wrote dogs several letters in jail back and forth
we talk and shit.
So it ain't about what a nigga thinking.
I just don't let people know my relationship that I got with a nigga,
and I ain't fun to let no other nigga fuck up my relationship
that I got with him based on what they feel.
Like that shit, it's just like that.
Definitely.
me a bunch of those books right there, I bought them for you, and then I realized that you had to send it directly from Amazon to the prison, so then I had to read order my head. So I can't leave with my shit?
You could definitely have someone. I got that hell already. I got the hell. Yeah, because I think I just,
mastery by Robert Green. That is a good one, yeah.
Biggest bluff.
That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one.
My boy, man, this is really my boy. You feel me? I know you go through a lot of headaches or whatever else, but just no, I'm rocking with you, you know what I'm saying? Just like,
I can't never say with that because that's not like you're the same type people but
how I ain't tripping on 1090 Jack I know even this shit is your job you know what I'm saying
and it's just like niggas people don't know if we discussed you know what we own you feel
me so I don't never feel like damn you know what I'm saying I'm rocking with you this is some
shit from the beginning of my career taking off we've been rocking you feel I appreciate man yeah
and I'm gonna be real with you like I always used to basically see like two different versions of
Grito. There was the very, very up Grito who was on probably certain substances that were making
you feel like that. And then sometimes I would see the very low-key slumped version of Grito.
Right, right. And it's kind of surreal to see like the real you, like very middle of the road,
chill, like still creative and everything. But I was very used to seeing either like one extreme
or the other for a long time. So how does it feel to be in that headspace? Because I feel like
it probably feels like a totally different opportunity for you to be taking advantage of.
of all these things that are in front of you right now
in terms of the music and everything
being that you have like a clear head now.
It's crazy, man.
You realize you just,
I ain't gonna shit on the drugs
because the drugs created my career,
created my content like,
substance steel panning a nigga more than all the other songs,
you feel I mean?
So those drugged out-ass nights
kind of had made some shit.
And I'd be listening to it today like,
and that bitch just sounds like some load.
It's just like 10 words and substance.
They feel it though.
So it's like I can't shit on how creative I was when I was on them drugs.
But I was fucking dying, bro.
I was destroying myself.
I was really like in a lot of physical pain off of doing like, you know,
I was off of like 10 things in one day because of the case just, you know,
weighing in on me.
I was at the top of my game.
No, definitely.
And I mean, that's a tough way to live.
You know?
Because I cleaned up my act, actually probably right around the time that you turned yourself in.
And it's just...
Oh, you clean?
Yeah, I still smoke weed a little bit, but that's better.
I'm talking about you.
You know what, man, listen.
We never did drugs together, but we were definitely doing some of the same drugs.
Yeah, like I said, this is my pun of your, you know what's going on, but nah, I ain't, you know what I'm saying?
You miss being zuted, though, a little bit?
Um, uh, because I got more to worry about being in.
control of now.
You know what I'm saying?
Walking around with jury on and shit now,
it's like, bro, you can't just be,
even though I still used to be alert,
I'm really kind of like,
a lot of people that have been having problems
would be don't even know me.
Just like how you know,
like I got an off and on switch.
Like, I'm really all kind of like
energetic, active ass nigga, you know what I'm saying?
So I don't,
I don't not miss shit,
but I don't need it to still be
the person I am.
So it's like, if you...
I don't want to be no old-ass junkie.
weren't getting pissed tested, do you think you would be still dibbling and dabbling?
No, especially not snorting none because I ain't hear what the fuck about no car
fentanyl and shit when I was, until I just like, I came onto like a whole other world
cars driving their selfish shit.
Move out the white bitch, ain't nobody in there.
What the fuck?
Oh hell no, this shit is another world.
Even the way that people handle street shit, the world, it's so much shit that I won't even
say before I fuck off money and endorsements.
It's like, what world is this?
What has changed from a street perspective in your mind?
Look at what we're here doing, like what?
That ain't something that...
The internet.
My hood don't do, no.
We would never do no shit like, no...
Not as a whole.
That ain't know if somebody came and sat at a roundtable
and we said, let's do this on the internet.
What the fuck?
Then it'd be like, niggas be saying,
oh, yeah, he probably ain't fucking with the hood.
I don't know if people don't really know
because they don't be seeing what's going on
on the other side of the camera
when people take pictures of me.
My whole entourage is the hummies.
Somebody always right here.
It's always a homie with me.
Ain't no drummer.
Who?
Nigger, who do you think I'd be standing next to?
What are you talking about?
Who the fuck?
You mad because you ain't in the inner circle?
Then you do weird shit
and then say,
no, I just did that.
shit because I wanted this or I wanted that
2023. Especially
like you being away for five years
and not really seeing up close
the way that the internet has been
changing and that, you know,
it must be kind of shocking. Then you got a nigga
I know
well I ain't even going to say that. Let me get out
that gangster world for I say some dumb shit.
I could only imagine where that
was going to go. Thank God.
Thank God I didn't snort any cocaine.
Thank God I'm so...
Nigger would be saying all tape of shit on the door.
What? I almost
went there, but now, look, great.
I feel highly disrespectful, you feel
me?
We're gonna do a part two?
Break down the video,
and then after that, we're gonna do
a no-jumper special out of where me
and you're gonna do some play of shit.
Why, we can't do fun shit?
I'm fresh out celebrating me.
After all this bullshit, let's go do some fun shit.
Let's do it.
Why y'all wanna keep shitting on the nigger,
fresh out?
Take a nigga to get the new jane.
Nobody does anything fun in L.A. anymore.
Everybody's scared to get robbed or something.
We ain't got to be in L.A.?
Go to Stockton.
Outside of this shit.
Right on the outside of this shit.
Yeah.
It ain't too far away.
It's a buffer zone.
But do you feel like you're, like, there's a time period where after you get out from
being locked up where it takes a little while for your brain to adjust to having all this
freedom and shit?
You feel like you're fully adjusted and back to normal?
Or is it still, you're kind of waking up and feeling a little odd?
It'll never be a kid.
catch for me like a way I can catch it.
I'm always being kind of psychologically
fucked up. I blew up
when I left. Had to get used
to a new state, a new environment,
new individuals, different gangs, different
racial politics, different
drugs around me, different, everything.
Still stay hip to what music was hot
and what artists I was liking and producers and all.
Still stay polished on my music shit.
Still stay hot.
Still keep my personal affairs.
Still raise my daughter. My daughter rock with me.
great, you feel me?
So raise my daughter, I'm a single father, you feel
me, so now I gotta go back to playing the music game
when honestly, if I would have been out
and been able to be a little further in my contract,
I would have been already going to mogul mode,
still dropping, but like, you know what I'm saying?
So I gotta reset this shit up and shit,
it's just like, uh, I'm never gonna have a point
where I feel like, okay, now I feel normal
because I'm chasing this now.
You feel me, it's never like, let me get back to the norm.
Now I got to get, I don't know, like, safe prison had me here, but the normal is right here, but fame is here.
I just got to get past these gates.
I'm so busy going to the fame.
I really ain't got time to worry about that pussy-ass shit.
I got to work, you feel you feel me?
Right.
Like the personal life.
There was like a tweet I remember from a couple years ago.
It might have been Jeff Weiss, but he was saying something like, think about how sad, the most inspired era of L.A. hip-hop in recent years, think about how sad.
Think about how sad the ending to it was,
which was Shoreline broke up within a couple years.
Draco, rest in peace, and then 03 doing 20 years.
So at the very least, like now we have a silver lining,
which is that you get another shot.
That realistically, a lot of us were saying, like,
yeah, apparently he's going to get out when he's 45.
You're going to get out when he's 50, whatever.
Like, you know, it's not like we wanted to count you out,
but realistically, there was not a ton of optimism,
even among your friends and the people that,
care about you getting out and putting it work.
What you mean?
Y'all feel like that,
nigga, I feel like that.
Nick, I'm going down there thinking I got 20.
I didn't be crying like a little kid
and shit.
Niggie get his paperwork and see a nigga
get his leave maybe in two years.
A nigga say, damn, I was crying like a bitch
like that in front of my bitch and everything,
nigga.
Damn, nigga, shit.
Nick, I was holding it down.
I could have just, what?
But nah, nigga, I thought I had 20-20.
I ain't never heard of ag and on egg.
We don't have that.
So that was a little bit of a relief
But then they kept denying the niggins
They denied them, they denied them
They said the 20 was up
It's a nigga named.
New York is a nigga name
N-O is a nigga name.
It's 20 n-o is a nigga name.
Hey, Shottown.
Nah, hell, no.
You better quit fucking with Shatown.
They've been down 42 years.
Crazy shit.
That Texas shit, you'd be with a nigga
been gone.
Nigger with phones and everything.
You're saying, man,
what? How long you meant down? But they got you in a cell with them. You got a couple
years. And you're just thinking, this guy got nothing to lose. And meanwhile, I'm over
here trying to keep my shit together. And people are so many people that got so much on
their mind, whether it's violence or if they got something sick on their mind or, you know,
anything, you know what, did you see anything wild in there or were you, like,
basically respected on account of the music and everything?
Y'all seen hell of wild shit, you know what I'm saying?
You managed to stay out of it for the most part?
I ain't finish nothing about
hurting myself
All good, bro
Little 100
I haven't been to say nothing
to get me in some shit you
Okay
100%
I think there's probably a pretty
obvious answer to this
But you proposed to your girlfriend
At the time on stage
At your final show
Hell you
It doesn't seem like that worked out
No, we're still together
You are still together?
Yeah, no
You think I'm a fucking suck a nigga
Fuck that?
No, that's my dog though
I gotta understand how the pen is
like, niggas, you don't hear my music
I talk about if I
run for your life, like
I'm bracing you, niggas,
for what you fin to see while I'm
dropping these songs before I leave, nigga, it's, yeah,
it's gonna go on, let's see how it go on.
Well, I've been digging into the 33 song project
that you put out since you got home.
It's like reading the Bible.
It's so fucking long.
I got to listen to it in increments.
I had to make sure I'm getting some new shit
to perform.
Great, let me let them learn some new shit.
I don't want to only sing that old
shit. I got to mix it up.
Definitely. But now I don't be, I don't be tripping about like, I don't, I don't want,
I'm not with you. I don't want to be with you, but like, well, go on in the game, go on
in the game. You ain't trying to get me a kill. You ain't did nothing. I don't get
a fuck, nigga. Right. So you had the mentality that you wanted somebody holding you down while
you were locked up and then is that, is it not as good as it sounds? I really didn't want
nobody, but when I had went down the last time when they called me the, and I got out
that one day and did
out of the slums
with Draco
that was great
because we was both fighting
some shit
I'd say that was like
a movie
but anyways
You think that's why
that song came out
so hard?
Hell yeah
That song is
ridiculous
I don't know everything
Yeah
Long live the rule
Everything about our shit
was hard as fuck
Because it's like
What the fuck
That's gonna sound
Like
This singing ass nick
on the song
Oh this shit
Hard to bed
What is that shit?
You guys really might have
Like a hundred percent
Hits
When you came together
Fuck man
That's where I'm like
like, man, but I, man, hold on.
Hold on, let's finish that other question first.
Hold on.
What we were saying?
The engagement?
Oh, somebody held me down.
No, it's like, nigger.
Not really, but right before I went in,
that person was trying to make sure I knew that.
No, I could do this, but it's like, man, you know what's going on.
But, um, but, um, let's get on.
Oh, tell my bro Trio come in there, too.
Hey, but, uh, you want to talk about Drake or right now?
you want to wait till after bro come in here?
We can get, this is the Trill that I know.
Yeah.
Oh, shit, I didn't even see him out there.
Oh, no wonder I didn't recognize you.
What the fuck?
You got a whole different style.
I didn't see you out there.
What's going on, Trill?
How are you living?
You got a whole head of hair.
You got glasses or something?
You want to run?
Disguise.
I don't know how long you had this look going on.
Last time I seen you, you were looking way more thugged out.
No, man.
I tried to switch.
You got to switch.
You got to.
I've been trying, man.
I've been moving around.
Yeah, you know.
100%.
Hey, but before we even
talked to Trill,
that must have been,
like when I think about the number of deaths
that you witness behind bars,
I mean,
it must have felt like fucking torture
having to just be hit with this shit
every couple years, every year.
People that I'm cool with, though.
It ain't, I mean, not saying
that everybody else needs to die,
but it's not niggas that I ain't knowing
or ain't got a relationship
or friendship or brotherhood with.
It's my focus, my focus.
I'm already going through the personal side
of people done,
like, you know, like auntie,
Just family friends
Or just losing like real close homies in the hood too
Like swerve and shit
Like you know it was so much shit
Blackie this shit is like what
I still ain't damn
You know what I'm saying?
Like damn Blackie my boy Blackie ain't
God damn you know what I'm saying
But in the rap shit
It's just like oh fuck
I even was talking to my mommy yesterday
Some old people that I didn't
Like you know how you got family friends shit
I didn't know
I was just asking is this person a lot of that
Man everybody did
Oh there's people that didn't even get back to you
while you're a lot
He ain't even get you.
Wow.
So how do you feel about all this bullshit that's been in the air about him?
Man, you know me, though, man.
Come on, you know my character already.
So if I'm still dealing with him, you already know it got to be more to a situation.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
It's going to be three sides to a story.
His side, the side and the truth, you feel me?
Mm-hmm.
As long as somebody's story out of the truth, then that's what makes sense.
Right.
Other than that, you know, I can't speak on far as too much because it's my fit business anyway.
So, you know.
Right. It's like, damn, how much do we give you on this interview with this being such a street situation?
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, I don't blame you for wanting to keep it sort of mellow.
Hell yeah.
I just came to really clear my hood name and clear my name when they're saying, oh, like, I don't know if the world think, you better, don't pull up on me think it's sweet or like the grapes turned up, turts on me.
The homies are still, say, man, what's right is right and what's wrong is wrong.
You feel me?
And that's just how we rocking.
We ain't fin to say nothing on here
that's going to incriminate my section.
Nobody from my shit, nothing of that shit.
We got to keep it my feet, you hear me.
But I had to come at least, like Janky said, bro,
do you know what type of friend, brother, daddy I am?
With this type of shit on me,
all y'all got to clean this shit up.
That's on baby Lokes.
Like, bro, the reason I survived in all these state,
cities, hoods, because it ain't no secret
about my story I've been everywhere.
It's because I, bro, you, ain't you, man.
What the fuck?
Have you been having a lot of people want to tap in with you, though,
who are either, like, concerned about it?
Like my artist friends and shit like that?
Yeah, like, just because part of one of the things 1090 Jake said in that video
was basically, like, California got his own crazy-ass politics,
so I can't even imagine how this is going to be handled.
And I was sitting there watching the thinking, I don't really know either, yeah.
Ain't nothing, ain't nothing.
This big gang, right?
right here. Y'all trippin'all stupid.
This Great Street. If y'all don't know, y'all know.
Ask these people why I'm saying that.
Nick, my reaction is what?
Nick, this is Grape Street.
Y'all already don't get along with anybody, right?
It ain't even that. Like, who'll be playing with us?
Like, what you mean? Like, that's crazy as hell.
But, uh, no, artists came, I mean, some artists sending their support.
Here, I don't know.
Artists send their support and, like, you know, just teams that I'm close with.
But just like me, if I would have seen,
seen this on somebody else, I want to see that shit
get clarified too, because I ain't just saying too much
online, because I ain't feeling, bro, I'm on
parole until 2038, so I can't
get on there and do the screaming match.
I can't do none of that shit.
You think that could reflect poorly on you in terms
of the probation and everything?
How I'm doing this? Like, if you were to be on a
streaming match with somebody? I pull up on you and blow your
motherfuck brains up. That's not going to work.
Man, I'm doing all that
stupid ass shit.
Yeah. You feel I mean? But
not not, not, if not, I'm not, if not
other person or nothing. I'm just saying me. I'm not doing that. You know what I'm saying?
I don't want nobody trying to say, O3D imitates at somebody something. Then it's a back and forth.
Now we got to get on. Hey, listen, listen, listen. I just can't clarify what's going on.
For real. The video on the way. The appeal, the habeas corpus on the way. So if I get that type of
motion, y'all really going to hate a thing. I don't know what they're going to say next.
I'm great. And I mean, I know you and I know about your aspirations. And I know you don't.
don't like being pigeonholed as like an L.A.
rapper. And you don't want to be seen as the
dopest rapper in L.A. Like, you really
have been dead set on building a career
for yourself as a real artist.
And I know that you believe by the time
you get done with this career years,
that the fact that you are an L.A. street rapper is not going to be
the most interesting thing about you, right?
She, I ain't tripping.
She, whatever y'all don't know.
I ain't even going to lie to you, bro.
Like, I fuck different.
type of holes, I eat different type of food,
drive different type of cars now.
The only reason I came outside
because this shit playing on my name.
But all the other shit when niggas be playing,
I don't be giving the fuck.
I'll be off the water on grade.
Something built up like a transformer on grave.
I'm talking about something wild.
What?
And she loves me on grade.
You hear me?
I'm living.
I don't give a fuck about all that playful-ass shit
with these people.
I'll be living.
I never, I never got to live life, Adam.
I was dope.
Because you were super stressed out during the whole time that you were coming up.
Can't get no money.
Get some money.
Blow it.
Get high.
Fuck something.
It just was,
I'm great.
Typical nickel from out here.
You were still stacking money while you're locked up from the streamers and everything?
Oh, yeah.
That's different.
Yeah, yeah.
So you're still doing all right?
You're like,
you're not pressed about funds while you're locked up.
No, no.
No, no.
I'm doing immaculate.
I'm doing it.
But,
it's got to be crazy.
though for you to see somebody like Dub
who you're wearing his shit right now
who, you know, he had some shit going on
when you left, but he took it to a totally
different level while you were gone.
That's got to be pretty inspiring, right?
Shout out to bro, man.
Sure, Doug.
Just seeing his factory or his way
doing shit just
even the way our collabs
be breaking down and coming together,
everything. And bro's still
so involved with everything, but he's
still super my bro, like,
Still super
Got hell of memories with me
Know all my music
Know what songs
Lyrics put on the
That shit is crazy
It's on stage
He records you
I mean
Like somebody record me
Like man
Duff was like I do it
He's only million
Niggins down the stage
Oh great
Nigger worth a million dollars
And you're like
I'm gonna record you bro
It's good
Oh great
That shit crazy
But
So what do you feel like
You're gearing up
Towards in terms of like
The shit you got
Coming up
That's gonna take the career
To another level
See, these niggas fucked up.
They did it wrong, you know me?
So now, like, now, even now,
no, niggas gonna be like on the comments,
like, no, no, no.
But now it's like, oh shit,
if this ain't right,
this nigger is gonna be so viral.
I'm saying them niggas that want the cloud off this shit
because let me break it down to you did it wrong,
dumbass, nigga.
So now it's gonna be like,
this nigger so stand-up,
they got it on video,
How crazy of a moment is that going to be
to see video of a big-ass rapper
holding it down, almost getting killed
on a kilo case?
Never heard of it.
What the fuck are you talking about?
So now we're going to expose you niggas.
Play with my name.
You weird as a bitch.
My crime is out.
He's with me.
This shit's been to be big as a bitch.
Stupid-ass niggas.
Dumb-ass niggas.
When we want to get on this entertainment,
Let me talk to entertainer talk.
You dumbass.
You stupid, motherfucker.
And then you come out the next day and say, I just did it because of this.
So we already know your shit is void.
Stupid.
All that shit, man, you still ain't got this shit.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
Look at that thing.
You niggas is crazy, man.
This damage is on the back of this bitch.
You niggas is crazy, man.
Look at that thing.
It's huge.
It looks so fucking heavy.
But what's wrong with them?
And you know why I can wear this shit?
I ain't that little ass nigga no more.
Who you took?
talking to anyway on Grape Street.
What's wrong with these people?
So how do I feel?
I feel fun.
Damn, he's talking that shit.
Hey, I got to go be a babysitter.
I'm sure you know the feeling.
Oh, yeah, shout out to the family, too, man.
I hope you ain't take my picture down, snitch-ass, nigger.
I start explaining to the kids.
I used to fault with this, nigga, he went and ratting.
He broke my heart.
It's the ratting, Gray Street.
It ain't the wolf of Gracie.
Man, quit playing, okay.
Oh, man.
music on the way, big, big, big shit.
Yeah.
Any rapper who feel like y'all still want to stay on the other side,
we ain't never tripping that.
We ain't fucking with you.
Like, if you ain't fucking with us, we ain't fucking with you.
Right.
Just don't complain, okay?
Me, personally, as a man,
I'm just on some don't die shit, you hear me?
Yeah.
Fuck the tough shit.
I ain't never fuck no bitches this bad.
I ain't never drove no cars this fast.
I ain't never rock these shows and these holes got to...
Bitches you are?
Hold on.
Stop this, my boy.
You good?
Are we good?
Oh, that's all you twerk?
It's going on.
Right.
It's going on.
I ain't fin of miss this, nigger, and you ain't fin to smut my name.
You just, these people crazy, man.
I don't want to answer to no diss-ones.
Don't nobody want to hear them dis-ones.
This shit ain't gonna make you hot, man.
But I gotta hold this down for my hood.
I gotta hold this down for my friends that I lost.
I gotta hold this down for my daughter, man.
On some real shit, we ain't a sick time, man,
for y'all to put you to put.
play with a young person like that.
Whoever, like, created this shit, we're in a sick time, bro.
You put people's family in danger.
You're not sure if this is facts.
You're playing games.
It might be alter.
I don't know.
But at the end of the day, bro, we're in a sick time.
I don't want to promote nothing like where I'm just trying to back and forth
no individual while I'm on parole until I'm 50, nigga.
I represent something different, but I had to come and speak my peace.
You feel me?
No, I appreciate it.
We got the part two on the way.
And we all know.
what you're capable of.
So, I mean, much respect.
And I'm just looking forward to it.
I remember one of the first songs that you sent me
right when you got home,
when you were still in Texas,
you sent me a couple songs,
and I was just like, oh, all right.
This is like, this is what L.A. needs right now.
And this is going to really do some actual fucking damage.
So, yeah.
And, bro, the J-Hob don't play that shit, bro.
J-Haw ain't going to where.
I got thousands of songs.
So even if I ever go,
my people's good forever and ever.
Nick, I can leave bro with a hundred songs.
He still got a gang unreleased shit with it,
and he still got to gang unreleased shit with it, nigga.
Listen, bro.
All that I don't want to rock with my hood,
nigga, I got to be careful, I got to be safe,
I got to be strategic.
It has nothing to do with the homies.
I can't pull up to a domain that's camera down
where I got to watch myself.
I got to watch people around me.
I got to worry about police pulling me out my car,
in my car all down
and I'm on parole
until I'm 50.
I can't just be
I can't, bro.
And I'm sorry, I love you
if you really miss me.
I always try to get y'all around me
the ones that's really my folks.
I get y'all to all my shit.
I'm gonna definitely always do shit
for my hood.
I'm gonna always put my hood on my back.
I'm always leave this motherfucker
tat it on my face, you feel me?
But
don't try to make it seem like
y'all nobody got me hiding.
First of all, I'm busy.
Bitch, I'm booked up.
on grade.
I'm booked up.
I'm booked.
I was booked the day I got out of jail.
What do you mean?
Niggins been working.
But, oh, no.
I'm saying love to your family, Adam.
I appreciate it.
I'm worried about none of the bullshit.
Shout out Lisa.
Yeah, shout out to her.
I love for Lisa.
You know what I'm saying?
But she's so viral.
You know what I'm saying?
But no, man.
I was having to talk to her
because she was telling me
like how to communicate with me and shit.
Right.
Even when we did the, uh, over the phone.
Yeah, yeah.
Much love to all of yours.
Don't worry about nobody worrying about what you're doing.
You do what you want to do, hear me?
100%.
We're going up, man.
I meant you because you see me in a little-ass space in the back of the store
about as big as this.
Now we're in the big-ass warehouse.
This nigga got a shark swimming in the flow in this bitch.
This shit everywhere in this motherfucker.
Now we got to do it.
Now we've got to hustle to get that done so that nobody can call him a liar.
Hey, sure.
Hey, much love, bro.
It's amazing seeing you back in the streets.
I'm going to go put the O3 greatest.
hits on. I was listening to the new project the last couple of days. Now I'm going to go back to
the classics. We ain't down when you know we're running out. No, that's what we do. Let's go.
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