No Jumper - 051 Kiddo on Doing 10 Years, 051 Melly, NBA Youngboy, Not Pushing Peace & More

Episode Date: October 16, 2023

Adam sits down with 051 Kiddo to talk about his upbringing, doing time, DPs in Chicago, NBA Youngboy, Tay Savage, FYB J Mane, and much more! ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CH...ECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Jumper, coolest podcast on the world. And today, we're tapping in one of the hottest artists out of Chicago right now. 051 kiddos in the building. Your money in the building. You know that. How are you feeling? Shout right big off. Melly Way.
Starting point is 00:00:18 Big motion. This is your first time in L.A. or not? Yeah, yeah. I like it. I love this. How long have you been out here? Like a few hours? Less than 24 hours, right?
Starting point is 00:00:35 Yeah, less than 24 hours. What you've been up to? What you've been able to experience in the city so far? A couple y'all breakfast joints. I had some fast burgers. I don't know where I had some burgers from. Four of them ordered that something somewhere. Those good as here.
Starting point is 00:00:53 You got to hit In-N-Out. Wasn't In-N-Out? I don't know. In-out, like the famous burgers you went out here. Man, those burgers as good as hell. I want another one. Don't let me find out it was Carl's Jr. or something. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:01:06 We got designer here. Designer burgers. I want another one, though. You're going to have yourself some good salads out here? Nah, I ain't answer to salad. That's the Hollywood lifestyle, though. You've got to keep your figure. You got to stay skinny and shit.
Starting point is 00:01:21 There's a lot of good healthy food out here, too. I like being healthy. I like being fit, but I like that. I like chicken, fries. And good fries, too. I don't like all that. that greasy-ass. I hate grease.
Starting point is 00:01:37 I don't like greasy. I hate grease. Who got the best fries? Heroes got the best fras to me. I ain't had heroes yet. They got heroes out here. I know it's in Chicago. I think so.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Oh, no, no. That's a shrizzles. You got to go to Roscoe's. That's like the famous chicken and waffle joint out here. Yeah. I might slide through that, see what that's like. Go to one of the... Go to one.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Yeah. Go to one. That's what I'm saying. If you can't go to all along, ain't no point of me going. No, because there's like one, like Roscoe's in the hood that P&B Rock got killed at.
Starting point is 00:02:10 So that one definitely has a curse on it right now. That's not the one for anybody out of town to be going to. But there's some chill ones too. You know it. Let's do it. Let's do it. So, okay, tell me a little bit about 051 kiddo,
Starting point is 00:02:24 the baby. Like when you're really a kiddo, like the real early days. Tell me a little bit about your childhood. My childhood. I grew up. My mother, my grandmother, my little brother, pre-boy. It was just us in the house.
Starting point is 00:02:46 My father was in the streets. Like, he f***ed us, though. He was dead. He was just in the streets. You know how, like, when you got a father that's in the streets, but, oh, boy, they're out for you. A lot of you have no type of fathers, but he was dead, though.
Starting point is 00:02:57 I'm fucking my father. Oh, bro. But he was so deep in the streets that he wasn't really around in a normal dad role? No, it's not that he was deep in the streets, and he wasn't a normal dad role. just I understand if you're in the streets. The street's fast. So, you got to be a stay-at-home dad to be a father to a child.
Starting point is 00:03:22 You don't got to be a stay-at-home dad, but you got to... A stay-at-home dad to me mean a job. Right. A girlfriend or a wife, you know, and you're taking care of your responsibilities in the house. See, when you're in the streets, you got to keep. you're moving around too fast so like you aren't able to sit down but like when your child want you or they need you on boy you be that for him like that's how my father coming though he was deaf with me every step of the way though right shorty to
Starting point is 00:03:53 now what was your relationship with your mom like yeah she cool she all right but sometimes and life my like see eye to eye so you haven't always seen eye with your mom What kind of conversations or issues are we talking about? No, personal shit. I don't want to speak on. You still talk to her? Sometimes. And, uh...
Starting point is 00:04:19 Since you got out, you guys haven't had much of a relationship, though? Yeah, we've been cool. Yeah, yeah. We've been cool. We've been chel. Was she there for you for a part of your bid or any of it? Yeah. She was the, you know, typical...
Starting point is 00:04:35 Um, bro. Okay, so when you were young, what was it like, though? We hear a lot about Chicago and everything. How was your upbringing? Was it wild or was it decent? No, it was decent. It was decent. Like, we had everything when we were shorty.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Like, we got whatever we wanted on both. So it was decent. It don't matter if we stayed in the hood. That's one thing for show two things, my OG made sure we had everything. all the newest, whatever that came out, she made sure we had it. Even my father. Whatever that came out, whatever we wanted, whatever we needed,
Starting point is 00:05:14 they made sure we had that shit, made sure we got that shit going on us in. But we ain't went. Like, we ain't went without nothing. We had it. Like, we had it. We was great. What part of Chicago are you from for the people who don't know? I'm from the low end.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Bro, we get trenches at. Is it 51 considered a low end? That's just, wait. All right, so that is a little. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Left that, did on that curve. Now they're sad as fucking.
Starting point is 00:05:44 I'm, bro. You don't want to come over there. Oh, bro. For sure. Okay, but so were you seeing street show down? Or, like, were you attracted to getting in trouble from a young age? Or when did you start? You're making your childhood sound like it was pretty good.
Starting point is 00:06:00 When did you start getting into issues? No, I ain't making that sound like it was pretty good. It just certain. just don't got to speak upon, you know? Okay. I don't boo. Like, yeah, it was good because I was getting what I want and getting what I need,
Starting point is 00:06:14 but it was hard. And I'm trying to, when you stand in the process or you're standing property, yeah, yeah. You got to think about it. You don't know what I got to do when you probably my son to get it. C.O. drugs, scam, finesse. Finesse.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Finesse bitch. I try to get to it. So, yeah. Which ones of those were you doing? Man, look, man. What? We were trying to talk. We're talking about back in the day.
Starting point is 00:06:42 No, back of the day. Yeah, I mean, don't tell me about the worst shit I ever did. I ain't go to you, the worst shit. No, I know you're not. No, I ain't going. But I had it going, though. Yeah? You were scamming?
Starting point is 00:06:58 You don't strike me as a scammer. I don't scam. You don't got bandman kevo vibes. No offense. No, man. Keevo. Charleston called Keevo now. No, no, I don't.
Starting point is 00:07:09 No, I don't. I'm just saying what I got to do to provide for their family, bro. That's what I'm saying. You got to provide for your family, and you ain't had no way what you would do. You would just sit on your ass and just be hungry, or you would get out there in those streets and do what you got to do to get to it.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Yeah, I mean, I guess it would probably be time to take some drives to the East Coast with 20 pounds of weeds stuffed in the truck and just roll the dice and just hope you don't get caught, some shit like that. If I had nothing going on, I'll probably start thinking about that. That's big picture. You need some money to start with. You got to look at it like, you got to look at shit like a motherfucker that grew up,
Starting point is 00:07:48 even if he did have nothing or even if he did have something, you got to look at. Like what he's been through mentally, though. That's how you got to look at it. You can't just always look at it. If this person was getting what they wanted and what they needed out of life, that mean they had a good life. That shit don't mean. Just because you getting materialistic shit don't mean you're having a good life.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Right. bro, you could just be going through shit mentally, like feeling neglected or feeling unwanted. Or feeling like motherfuckers don't care for real because they're doing other shit, you know what, you for him? So you had a little bit of that, like you were, you had some demons even as a young kid? Yeah, me, hell, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Like, hell, yeah. You see, I'll be around the same people every day. I don't switch it up. I don't be around. Nobody different. When I was a shorty, it was the same way. Shit, motherfuckers didn't want to be around me. I ain't want to be around now.
Starting point is 00:08:43 it's the same way with these females if you ain't like me then don't try to like me now move around you know what I'm saying why not that's one of life's great joys is making it in life and then fucking a girl that didn't want anything to do with you before and then never calling her back
Starting point is 00:08:58 fuck that bitch that bitch you eat a dick yeah literally no you eat a dick and then no you ain't go eat man toss up to the curb no you ain't go eat man no that's the best revenge and it's not like illegal or anything it's not the best thing though just to say you fuck it's not though
Starting point is 00:09:12 Not to me. Fuck that bit. Really? Oh, bro. I'm a hurt her to even more. She's gonna be shittiest here. Like, damn. Damn, I should have told to him.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Yeah, I know, bitch. I know you should have talked to me. Yeah. I feel you, because I mean, I'm 39. So, I mean, the chicks I went to high school with are 39. That's not good, you know? Like, for sure, I could turn all them down. More definitely.
Starting point is 00:09:36 But if they happen to look like fucking Pamela Anderson, we might need to get it cracking. You're funny as here, man. I'm just keeping it real. I'm just keeping a real, kiddo. You know what? So, okay. So when did you first hop off the porch, as they say?
Starting point is 00:09:58 11, 12. I was out. I was bad as hell. I was out of hell. Getting into what kind of shit? I'm not getting into tall type of shit. Breaking into Korea. Breaking into Carl.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Going to juvenile. I fulfilled his ass case. Littering, trespassing. Littering. Hell, yeah, man. That's the first time anybody ever told me they got picked up for that on here. Yeah, bro. Because you would be outside, like, me and the guys should be outside at the deepest hill,
Starting point is 00:10:35 and they'll come right through that bit. They'll take you to jail for anything. Like, they see you do anything. Right. Hey, boy, come out. Turn around. Oh, yeah, your ass going to jail, man. Y'all think it's that out of, you know, bro.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Like in our part, Robert's part. That's all shit. We couldn't be in there at a certain time because Twitter used to come in that bitch and shut that motherfucker right down. Really? After 9 o'clock, it's over there. They coming in that bitch.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Y'all got to move around. They shun that motherfucker right down. That's what we grew up at. Why was they shutting it down so early? Because, like, they felt like shit. You can't be out here at this time. Y'all got to move around. Go somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:11:16 It's like, like, say it like a big-ass part, like Washington Park. Like, you could be out there for a lot. home gas time but shit like that you got a school right there you got motherfuckers in the area you feel me houses nah I'm a motherfucker ain't going for that all got to move around motherfuckers be loud as hell too so Washington part is just different you could be loud over there you know you could chill over there and apart you really just you can't really do that no I mean the cops aren't stupid they know the parks where everybody hanging out doing shit
Starting point is 00:11:45 at a certain point they're gonna get get hip to it right no not even that because you could be doing big ass events and they still gonna say the same shit yeah y'all got to move around it's that time they even got signs of saying can't be in the park at this some time i'm bro just to avoid like certain conflict and shit that could happen yeah maybe oh bro that's maybe what they're trying to do all right so break down all right so because i keep a lot of people that come up here this from chicago say they're from the low end but then i'll be hearing y'all say y'all from jaro city and then oh five one young what's the difference between oh five one your money jarro city and the low end no difference all that the same no different all that the same no
Starting point is 00:12:22 So what's the difference? No difference. But it ain't the same. It's not the same. Aha. Yeah, he got me right there. So, all right, so. What would you have called it when you were young?
Starting point is 00:12:38 Where, like, you were just called the low end? Young Money 0-5-1. Low-end, Feativersal College Grove, 48 from drugs. What it is. Anything outside of that? I'm bull. But what is Jarrow City? Is that, like, the.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Like, someone came up with that name? Who came out with that? Or, like, is that really a name out there? Or that's what y'all called it. Shit, you got to interview a motherfucker from Jarrow City, so he can tell you what is it? Oh, so you're not from Jaros City. Hell no, I'm from Young Money 0-5-1.
Starting point is 00:13:13 How many times Adam just told you? Yeah, I'll just be seeing that. People say, Jaro City. How many times Adam just repeated? I think Adam figuring out too for the first time. When he came on the show, what he said, he got 0-5-1 kid on a beard. You see that 0-5-1, think about Young Money, Mellyway,
Starting point is 00:13:28 Remmy, Fast, Big A, Lamar. That's all you got to think about, brother. Anything else, that's your frivolous. What age did you become 0-5-1? I don't remember what age I became 0-5-1. I was young as here. I was 0-5-1, though, before it was young money. They don't have to beat you into it or anything like they do out here?
Starting point is 00:13:53 Man, we brothers, man. If we beat on something, like, if we beat on each other, that meant your idea or something you're supposed to be doing. Like, that's your punishment, you feel? I'm going to get DPD and still be in the crew Or you get DEPed and you're out You ain't grow up with us man You can't be a part of this shit
Starting point is 00:14:14 But what if you grew up with you And then you fucked up so bad that you need to get DEPed Are you out of there afterwards? Are you still going to be given No, just move around man Move around That's your advice for a lot of things When you can't fight
Starting point is 00:14:27 See we ride a fight it We ain't doing no back doing shit We ain't doing none of that goofy ass shit We ride to fight each other if you did something wrong You do something wrong, come on, bro, we're from the going back. We're from the bump. I'm bro. That's if you did something wrong.
Starting point is 00:14:41 But if you did something serious, you just got to move around. You can't be a part of this shit no more. That shit over with. Okay. Move around. Yeah, move around. You should do something with that. Like, you should have a tape called Move Around.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Move Around. Or, like. Oh, Bumjee got a song called Move Around. I can't do no shit like that. You feel like that? You were a fan of him as a kid? No, I was a fan. He was a street nigga.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Why would I be a fan of a street nigga if I'm doing it. Well, he made music too. No, he cool. He all ain't on music. He asked me his back then, bro. I was a big bumchay fan at a certain point, man. This music was going crazy. Yeah, he asked me his back then.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Then they do your homework. They caught him for a bank robbery. He had to go away for like seven years or some shit right in the middle of his wave. He out now, though. He's great. Well, I'm Jay, tap in. He got a podcast, too, right? Really?
Starting point is 00:15:30 I think. I don't know. I think you be doing. Crazy. What's next? What you got, Raymond? All right, so, who was your relationship like with a little Mark?
Starting point is 00:15:43 That's my brother. I love, bro. Like, if you asked me what was my relationship, with any one of the guys that passed, it was close, man, and my brothers. Like, I was locked up. I took lost, idiot what it is, I'm back. I'm gonna keep their name alive, bro.
Starting point is 00:16:11 So Mark died when you was in. Yeah. All right. Yeah, yeah. So you wasn't out for the, you wasn't in the music video for no competition, I'm guessing? Nah. All right. No, I wasn't in a lot of videos the guys made.
Starting point is 00:16:23 What year did you get locked up, locked up? 2012. And it was for like an armed robbery or something I'm seeing? No. And you got released last year or this year, early this year. How was that like? Like, what was the bid, like, the experience in Cook County? Or where were you at?
Starting point is 00:16:42 Cook County and a joint. I was great. You weren't too worried about it? Nah, hell not. Worry about what? I mean, having to sit down for 10 years, it's got to be. I went to jail, bro. If you did the crime, you got to do the time.
Starting point is 00:17:01 But even if they said I did the crime, that don't mean I did it. But it was just a robbery? Like, what happened in the course of this robbery? No, I can't speak before that. Okay. my guy. Oh.
Starting point is 00:17:15 When I get off parole, I'm still not going to speak fun on that shit. What happened? Why is that? What happened? Out of respect for... Ain't no respect. You just don't talk about shit you did,
Starting point is 00:17:25 man. It is what it is. Even if you got... Even if you served your time? Yeah, yeah. I ain't trying to talk about that shit no more. Okay. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:17:33 But, okay, what was your high school experience like? What kind of kid were you? I was bad at see how in high school. I kicked out. I dropped out of school when I was a junior. As a junior. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:46 So what was it about school that wasn't working for you? What kind of trouble are you getting into? Fice. Why high school you went to? I went to our tournament school name Affinity some shit. And I went to Kenwood. But when I was a shorthy, I went to a school named Nicholson. That was about no love in them shit.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Got it. So why did you drop out? I dropped out after I got a shot. How'd you get shot? I was on a block. Around what year was this? 2011. Yeah, like, they got to, yeah, Valentine's Day.
Starting point is 00:18:31 And somebody did a drive-by or they ran up to you? I don't keep it to myself. Ain't no point of talking about that shit. Okay. I got shot, though. Where did you get shot? My back, grazed to my arm, got a shot of my ass. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:48 You went to the hospital, and how long were you in there? I was in that. for like, damn, I was enough for like a week or two because I had to have a surge. On your ass or your back? Yeah, my back.
Starting point is 00:19:01 And they had to take a bullet out on my ass, too. How many times you've been shot? That was your first time getting shot? Yeah. The only time, probably, right? Because you got locked up right after that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:14 You gotta think about I got locked up 22, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So when you got locked up, where was the drill scene at? Like, music was, like, who was popping during that time before you went to the gym?
Starting point is 00:19:28 Who was butt in? at that time yeah right before you went got booked you had Jojo you had Sosa my brother Lelma was rapping Rosea was rapping you had Doug rapping you had a lot of motherfuckers rapping back then he and the drill coach yeah you got a lot of motherfuckers rap I was making a few songs oh so you got a lot of motherfuckers rap oh so you drop music before you had went and got locked up yeah yeah yeah so you've been so I know that was like damn like When you got booked, you were like, could you see the opportunity that was there for you?
Starting point is 00:20:13 So I kind of probably heard even more to like, damn, I got to sit down when I could have had a career that was. I'm bow. Were you already BDK when Chief Keith starts blowing up and shit? Like, how did you feel about that? Were you able to be a fan of it? I've been BDK, bro. We've been BDK. You were born with that on your birth certificate?
Starting point is 00:20:33 BDK, bro. We've been BDK, but I'm bow. But so when the, you've been BDK, bro, I'm bow. So when the O Block rappers start popping off in like 2010? And B.BK, bro. But could you be a fan? Were you, like, listening to that shit? Nah, bro.
Starting point is 00:20:47 I was listening to a few motherfuckers. It ain't that. I don't know because you be a fan listening to that shit. I was listening to Social music. I feel like that's the only music to listen to when the motherfucker is hot in the rack, bro. You got to know what's going on. You got to know what's going on. You got to hear what the motherfucker talking about.
Starting point is 00:21:08 But did that make you want to rap? Like, I got to rap back at this guy. No. No. I was too busy doing other shit. I weren't really focused on a rap shit, but I did make, like, what, three songs? Mm-hmm. Oh, boom.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Are those online? I play on YouTube. You did videos for them, though? Nope. I ain't had no time to do no videos. I was too busy doing all this shit. Okay. And then, like, you don't have to speak on the robbery situation or whatever,
Starting point is 00:21:38 but was that just some regular shit that you ended up getting caught up on, or was a situation that went particularly bad? I told you when you were going to speak on that shit. Oh, okay. All right, but when you got arrested, like, did they arrest you, like, in the process or it was, like, a couple days later? Because you got booked for it,
Starting point is 00:21:53 because I'm really trying to understand because, like, you did 10 years and you just got out, and you turned up right now. So, like, who really was there for you during your bid? Like, who held you down for those 10 years? Guys, my OG was there. My father was there. My granny was there.
Starting point is 00:22:13 I'm not going to. don't speak about no females being up because they broke bad so ain't no point of speaking about them i received fan mail like that's it for real for real but your guys like the guys was looking out for you and shit sending you shit man i told you man i'll be with the same nicks every day you think i'm gonna be around motherfuckers who ain't do shit for me no that's real that's stupid as here so when you go in though is that your first time going to jail at all when you went in for this shit no i had two more cases before that two more serious case before that
Starting point is 00:22:51 okay once you actually get in there though like how was it for you in terms of how you managed to fit in and whatnot behind bars fit in you know like I mean what was it like for you what was your experience
Starting point is 00:23:05 man I've been one of them niggas when I was in there I was a shorthy I ain't had to fit in when I was in there I was straight I ain't had to worry about shit there's a lot fighting in Chicago jails yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:23:18 Yeah, yeah. Maybe you find a lot. They'd be fine up with goofy shit, over noodles, robbing people for their commissary, all type of goofy shit. Motherfathers don't be really fine. I don't know serious, though. Motherfellers be fighting their ops, too. Like, if motherfucklers really, really on that,
Starting point is 00:23:33 like, niggas do be getting on that, though. That's one thing, we're sure. Like, niggas. Like, they see a motherfucker? And y'all, for real? Yeah, yeah, they'll get on that with your app. But, like, no, man. It's too much into that.
Starting point is 00:23:50 internet give motherfuckers the wrong mistake about jail, bro. Especially now that all these fights are dropping. Yeah, fights is going to happen, though. We had a whole UFC card come out over the last month or two. Bro, fight is going to happen, bro. And I'm telling you, most, 80% of them fights was goofy as hell. They probably are arguing about goofy shit. Oh, bro.
Starting point is 00:24:12 All goofy shit. I just thinking about you in jail, bro. Just a little petty-ass politics. It ain't none serious, bro. No, only thing that's serious let you. you from to fight one of your arms. Other than that, man, a motherfucker is framed over petty shit,
Starting point is 00:24:25 arguing with petty shit, cars. A motherfucker is framed over chess games. That's goofy shit. But, like, I was here in L.A. that it's like,
Starting point is 00:24:33 you show up and they just automatically, like, oh, you're here, boom, your gang got beef with this gang, so we're going to grab this guy from this gang, and you guys got to just
Starting point is 00:24:41 fight just to crack shit off when you get in there. And then you don't have to fight after that, but you have to, like, get it out the way. Is it like that? No, I went in the county
Starting point is 00:24:49 for that. I don't know. maybe that shit changed. I went in the county for that. That shit won't like that. Hell no, that shit won't like that. That shit won't like that at all. So what were you doing?
Starting point is 00:24:59 Like, I mean, 10 years, this is like, I'm just trying to get into the mental state of what it was like to be you during that, especially that you went in at a young age, so you're, like, really kind of missing out in your youth. I grew up in jail, but I'm like, I had only a little time.
Starting point is 00:25:20 to grow up when I was on the street. But I grew up in jail. Like the way I think, the way I moved. So, like, I told myself, like, damn, when you get out of jail, bro, you got to think this way. You got to move this way. Don't be like them other niggas. All of them other niggas.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Be getting out of jail. Coming back. Getting out. Coming back. Kint out. Damn out. you know, damn. No, I can't be like them niggas, bro.
Starting point is 00:25:55 So you have to really sit down, think, strategize, analyze every shooting, every death you ever, like, even heard of. So that shit won't happen to you. That's interesting because, like, a lot of people when they talk about you, talk about you as somebody who went in, did the 10 years, and then you don't seem like you really changed that much
Starting point is 00:26:17 because you came out just rapping about the wildest shit and dissing everybody and shit. What's your perspective on that? It's my mouth. I can get into the studio and say what the fuck I want to say? What the fuck I want to say? What the fuck going to say something about it? Like, a motherfucker can't just sit there and be like, damn, he dissing.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Motherfugs ain't dissing no more. This is, this, this. It don't matter how you're dissing. It don't matter if you, like, out with it or if you dissing sublimly. Like, no, that shit. It don't matter. This is a dis dis, bro. That shit don't matter.
Starting point is 00:26:55 right but i mean i feel like a lot of people just thought that you doing all that time that something might have changed inside you and that they were kind of surprised that you came out with that kind of energy was there ever a consideration of like i'm gonna come out and maybe not have this same energy because you know a lot of people assume that putting out that kind of energy could bring back the same kind of energy from other people no i'm like fuck it i'm gonna get out I'm gonna start rapping. But when I got in the studio, I ain't know I was gonna be dissing though.
Starting point is 00:27:36 I ain't know it was gonna be like that. I just got in a studio. Just start seeing some shit. Did you expect to heat up this quick? Because as soon as you got out, it seemed like you just turned up fast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you said you were strategizing
Starting point is 00:27:53 the planning for this, right? No, not for this. Not for this. You didn't think you were going to make it as a rapper? As far as like how you move when you're out there on them street. I'm not talking about like the rap shit. I ain't knew it was going to be like this.
Starting point is 00:28:09 You didn't know people would give a fuck about what you had to say necessarily? Not necessarily give a fuck. I just didn't know like my video was going to do $100K in a day. Then less than the month it was at $500K. Then my other video did $100K in a day.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Then last in the month, that motherfucker was then I had $400K. I'm bro. I mean, you've seen it time and time again because I know you're locked up with Vaughn before he was anybody. And then he gets out and he just fucking blows up. He's one of the biggest rappers in the world.
Starting point is 00:28:41 So, like, you had seen it. You just weren't necessarily expecting it to happen. Do you like that? Or that fast, at least? Yeah, you just don't know what to expect when they come to that rap shit. You don't know if a motherfucker's gonna listen. I would be like, man, fuck dude.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Just continue to listen to the motherfahers they listen to. Yeah. So you don't know what to expect, for real, for real. I seen you, I said that you and King Vaughn was actually like cellmates at the time. Yeah. How long y'all was cellmates for? A month. What was your relationship with Vaughn?
Starting point is 00:29:10 Like, you knew him before, y'all was in jail? Like, I met in jail. Yeah, yeah. I know before we was in jail. Oh, yeah, like a relationship, friendship. Yeah, yeah. What was that like being like that? You know about his reputation?
Starting point is 00:29:21 What reputation? You know, as being somebody who's out there. And that's great? Yeah. You know how that shit go, bro? if you want if you want of them niggas in the streets bro well they ain't gonna speak for itself I'm boo
Starting point is 00:29:37 so you and king of all our friends though I'm not gonna say we was friends we were sally's bro but it's like that in jail that you can like put aside the gang politics and just be cool with people if you're in the same proximity as them motherfuckers be cool in jail bro
Starting point is 00:29:58 a lot of niggas niggas doing it right now officer in the streets they're cool to sell with each other in jail Yeah, niggas be doing that shit, bro. I'm bro, they do. But then as soon as you got out, if you had seen him, you wouldn't have been able to be cool with him? That's something I'd rather keep to myself.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Ain't no telling what the fuck I do. Hmm. I'm bro. But now times I've seen an argue with past. Ain't no point of me killing the motherfucker. If you were just hanging out eating noodles with them a few years earlier, right? Yeah, man. Go on here, man.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Get your ass on, man. Go on to your family. Right. That's nice of you. You know it. You got a big heart. We know it. All right.
Starting point is 00:30:48 So, all right. So who was Zico to you? Because before it was Young Money, y'all used to go about Zico World or was Zico someone you knew or was someone just like an older member? My brother. What was it like when he died or how did that impact you? Shit, that shit impact all of us. He lost all motherfucking noodles.
Starting point is 00:31:11 I ain't get no fuck about shit. I'm bro. You said he lost all your noodles? He lost our noodles. Went crazy. Oh, okay. Because we were just talking about noodles. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Bro. He lost it. Bro. We missed, bro, though. Was he, like, around your same age group, younger, or older than? Oh, he's older. I'm bro. I'm 27.
Starting point is 00:31:38 All right, so he would have been, like, 30-something. Yeah. In the song? Do you feel like... Like, how has seeing your friends pass away changed for you as the years have gone by? Like, do you slowly feel like you get more and more numb to it? I miss them. That shit hurt.
Starting point is 00:32:01 I'm, bro. That's why I be with the same people, bro. I don't be switching up. Because the majority of guys are lost, they were there for me too. They're gone, but they still hell. Oh, bro. It seemed like a lot of all of the Chicago. rap groups of games
Starting point is 00:32:23 got like names taken from like other rap crews and shit you know brick squad was like maybe that came from Gucci the young money come from y'all being fans of Louang? No where the young money name originate from we were like fuck it bro with young money
Starting point is 00:32:38 like who came up with it after the Zico world it was just like who was like I we're young money because I would assume it was on no all of us came over like fuck it bro we're young money over hell you didn't know that it was already like one of the biggest labels in the world with Drake and Nikki Minaj and Lil Wayne? I did, but we didn't name our block because we was a fan of them.
Starting point is 00:33:01 A motherfucker being a fan of Lil Wayne or Nicky, Drake. You were just like taking it. It's our shit now. It's all shit. Fuck you, Birdman. No, ain't no fuck Birdman. Oh, good, good, yeah. You don't want to say that.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Yeah. Birdman's a real one. Yeah, he's a real one. It's kind of intimidating. I fuck with him. You have a big red star on top of his head. It kind of freaks me up. Yeah, I like how he coming.
Starting point is 00:33:27 I like how he think. I like how he moved. Put some respect on my name. He came from nothing to something. I could respect anybody like that. I could see you signing the Birdman. That's my boy. You met him before?
Starting point is 00:33:38 No. But how epic would that be if somebody from Young Money signed the fucking Birdman or Wayne or whatever? Yeah, that'd be raw. That'd be all. That'd be all. I ain't alive. They were like, damn.
Starting point is 00:33:47 They got Ophout one kiddo. They'd be raw. I see him. But now, I respect them, though. I respect like he came from nothing to something You gotta respect anybody like that You really really came from property Yeah
Starting point is 00:34:00 You ain't had nothing You just got it all Are you signing right now Are you talking to any labels? Yeah I'm signing O5-1 your money Melly Way Would you do like a major deal With any of these major labels
Starting point is 00:34:15 Like have O-5-1 your money Signed with like a major label I do we got a major deal Oh you do? You already signed it? Yeah I feel like that's what you're doing out here. I feel you're doing like a bunch of label meetings while you're out here, true or false?
Starting point is 00:34:28 No. Or it's already done. I'm signed already. To who? 05.1 your money, Melly Way. Okay. All right. Speaking of Melly Way, O'Five 1, Melly was one of the ones that everybody talked about all the time.
Starting point is 00:34:40 What was your relationship with, uh, Mellie? I know you're going to say that's your brother. Again, yeah, that's my brother. I still got to ask the question because, you know, a lot of people, they say... You're actually asking the same question for real for you. All right. So, Melly was your brother, too. Different. Let's be real.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Because he got, like, the craziest. Reputation. And since he died, it became, like, bigger and bigger where people just talk about him, like, constantly now. What's that been like to witness that the legend becomes so big? That's how you keep a motherfucking animal. That's how you do it. Boom.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Are you thankful for all, like, the street documentary type people who kind of contribute to that by making these videos of millions of views about him and sometimes you? other people that you've been around? Just keep bro name alive. We thank you. We appreciate you. The same way you're rocking with him.
Starting point is 00:35:33 We're rocking with you. That's it. Do you ever feel like they exaggerate shit or make y'all sound a little too crazy? Yeah, they be putting on like a motherfucker. But I understand, though, they're trying to get that money. Like, the longer the video on YouTube,
Starting point is 00:35:51 the more money they're going to make. So I understand. And are you going to click on the video that's like, 0-5-1 kiddo or the video that's like, oh, 5-1 kiddo is a serial killer, true crime, documentary, find out, you know, like I'm going to probably click on the one that has the crazy-ass title. Let's be real. Yeah, I'm Bo.
Starting point is 00:36:13 That's how they're going to get that money. That's how they going to get their money like that. You might title this like that. No, I don't tell it. Man, I'm a good boy, man. I'm innocent like a motherfucker. I know, I know they got the wrong idea about you. Yeah, they got the wrong idea.
Starting point is 00:36:27 They got the wrong idea. All right, so when I first seen 0-5-1, well, I've been hearing about them for a long time, but one of the first times I think a lot of people seen him was in that Zach TV that, oh, y'all did. Was you an in the Zach TV video? I was locked up. He was locked up for that, too. Missed that era. I ain't missing.
Starting point is 00:36:46 I was there. It was a free kiddo. Right, right, right. You know what? Were you rapping in jail? not at all not at all was you hearing about the Zach TV
Starting point is 00:37:00 as like you know when you were locked up you were hearing how crazy it's going because y'all had like one of the craziest ones everybody was talking about it they fuck with us bro yeah yeah that shit crazy
Starting point is 00:37:11 what happened to Zach TV though that's crazy my father's gotta be more careful they said it was mistaken identity too huh it'd be like that I don't know what it did though even if it was mistaken identity
Starting point is 00:37:21 they're crazy bro he ain't mean no harm bro he just doing blogs you know how big he would have been right now how much money you would have right now bro because he had a big ass head start on say cheese and me and everybody else you know
Starting point is 00:37:37 yeah um bro he would have been big he would have had a lot of money right now it's fucking surreal watching some of those videos now and just being like damn like just the people and the fact that Zach
Starting point is 00:37:53 like had the fucking the vision to go out and have these conversations with people like super early on and just that they had the balls because a lot of it's he's in people's backyards and on their stoop and shit That's crazy You never thought about being a vlogger? No Not me It's just not you
Starting point is 00:38:15 What do you think about the other rappers from Chicago that's not rap anymore that turned into vloggers? You feel like that's Elaine or you look down upon it? I don't look down on nobody's shit. You gotta get your money You gotta provide for your family motherfuckers He's already got 10 kids out of you. So if you felt like rap ain't working, shit, I'm gonna be a blogger. Because this is where the money at.
Starting point is 00:38:40 You ever try the whoops? My boy, J. Man, he'd be whooping like a motherfucker. You think he whoops too hard? He don't whoop too hard. He just be whooping like a motherfucker. He ain't whoop too hard. He got to who. But, I mean, he's talking about seeing shootouts
Starting point is 00:38:58 with people and shit like that. I mean, granted, it was a long-ass time ago, but he's throwing a lot of people in the mix. People are dead like Fredo. He's talking about just seeing him shoot people and shit. Like it's kind of wild. It's like a whole new thing. We ain't really seen this.
Starting point is 00:39:12 What, you think he's lying? Or you think he's just having fun? Shit, I ain't no telling. I feel like whooping, having fun. So he's having fun. He's having his way. How would you feel if he was telling crazy-ass stories about you, like seeing you do illegal things back in the day?
Starting point is 00:39:29 Man, the more you say my name, the big I'll become. I don't get no fuck. Okay. You know that. I'm bro. It does Driller have any influence over you rapping? Was Drill is someone that you look up to? Because when he dropped, he dropped 51 dead ops and that one crazy.
Starting point is 00:39:49 So was Drill was somebody that you look to for advice on music or anything? Yeah, yeah. That's my brother. They tell me. If they don't fuck with something, they'd be like, no, that ain't it, pro. You got to go on the studio and record that over. That ain't it. don't drop that
Starting point is 00:40:05 I got a couple songs for them said that ain't it and they ain't drop it so hell yeah you gotta get your you gotta get motherfuckers opinion when they come to this shit like you gotta get advice
Starting point is 00:40:20 I see you got woo with you who somebody that you always I see you say that you was blowing his phone out when you was in jail but he was always picking up what yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:40:29 and woo melly brother right yeah got my boy with me too What's his name for the people who don't know? TTP Niz. Oh, they know him. There ain't no such thing for the people who don't know. Yeah, do their homework.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Should they do their homework? Or should they do their research? No, people know who TTV Nez is. He was in that, he was in that Zach TV. Yeah, you know that. I know what's going on. You know that. Yeah, I was saying.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Yeah, I seen them. Yeah, I seen them. Yeah, I see them. So what's the relationship with, uh, because TTB Nez, is that young money or Is that the same? TTV is not part of your money. Y'all just friends. We're the same, bro.
Starting point is 00:41:12 It's the same. Is it Jiro City? It's not. I don't even know why you keep on. Because in the Zach TV, it says Jaro City, 05-1 Your Money vlog. So I've always thought it was the same. All you got to do it is just say,
Starting point is 00:41:28 051, Your Money, TTB. That's all you got to say, bro. All right, for sure. I'm saying nothing else. Got it. So you're just young money. TTP shit? Trying to blow, sweaty.
Starting point is 00:41:44 I was gonna ask, but that was my guess. So who influenced your flow? I got a distinctive-ass voice, though. Yeah, but you also rap, kind of unlike anybody I ever heard rap before? Man. Like, sometimes you just say, fuck this beat. I'm gonna just do whatever on this. Do whatever.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Oh, bro. Can't be like everybody else. I don't get no fuck. What motherfuck is something about? Like, fuck what motherfuckers talking about. If you being like everybody else, you ain't go get no while. Everybody trying to rap the same. You ain't going to get no while.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Everybody trying to sound the same, you ain't going to get no while. Everybody's saying the same shit in their rapes, you ain't going to get no while. So you could rap in a more traditional style. You're just trying to do your own thing. If I wanted to, I'm doing me. It's my own lane. That's my wave. Who do you listen to right now?
Starting point is 00:42:39 Young boy. Rondo, Wando. Drella. Teebee. Rose Preboy I listen to Tusi I listen to Raleigh
Starting point is 00:43:08 I'd be listening to all type of That's crazy you said Tusi Because I was thinking the other day That you kind of look like An evil version of Tusi No, I don't No Man you acting bad
Starting point is 00:43:19 I'm just I'm crazy My bad my bad You really feel like OFI won is one of the most hated Gangs in Chicago I've seen that on an interview clip That's what you were saying
Starting point is 00:43:29 You feel like I the most hated Yeah, motherfahers don't like us Why you feel like they don't like y'all? They don't like us, bro. They don't fuck with us. They know why. They don't fuck with us, though. What do you like about young boy in Kwanda?
Starting point is 00:43:51 They pain music. When I was in jail, I related to their pain music, bro. You feel that shit. You put them headphones on. You got your tablet. You put that raw wave on. You put that young boy on, that Kondo Rondo.
Starting point is 00:44:10 On fast, bro. That shit. hit different. Jay Main voice. Would you sign the young boy? I got to be a relationship. Before I sign, you just can't be signed
Starting point is 00:44:25 to anybody you get him to say. You watch the six-hour young boy documentary? No. It's a good time. I've seen it, though. It's a movie. Yeah, I got to watch it, though. I ain't seen it.
Starting point is 00:44:37 I ain't sit down and watch it yet. You watch the three-and-a-half-hour Vaughn one? No. No? No interest It's just not really your style No, I'll watch it It ain't that I don't got no interesting
Starting point is 00:44:49 It's just I'd be too busy You see how long it took me to get to no jumper I don't know we rescheduled this like five times You were talking about driving out here and shit Did you drive? No No hell no My manager was going to bring me down here
Starting point is 00:45:05 He was going to drive me down here We in Iraq Two blicks in the car I had to bunk run them out. That was delayed. You weren't in the car, though? Yeah, I was in the car.
Starting point is 00:45:24 I was in the car. I feel like that would be a big deal for you legally. The guns was in his name, though. Hmm, okay. They just said he's not from Illinois, so he shouldn't be ran around in Illinois with two guns. Right. But he got us concealed and carry.
Starting point is 00:45:44 But we got video that they pulled up. on us illegally though. So his lawyers say he's going to get his guns back and the kid's going to be beat. So he's great. Well, that's good. What was your relationship like with STL? Do you guys have
Starting point is 00:46:03 a relationship? Because they said that Melly was at a can't get right party when the situation having. So was y'all friends with people from STL? I'm not speaking about them. We could speak upon us something else.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Okay. So how did it feel when you came out and the music really started going viral? What was the first song that took off? Don't play with us. Right. And like how did that feel getting that kind of reaction after having been knocked up for that long? It must have been wild. It felt good.
Starting point is 00:46:45 I'm doing something. I'm cooling. All me. No help. No pain, nobody for views. No doing none of that shit. It's all me. Did that kind of?
Starting point is 00:47:03 change how you moved around right away because all of a sudden you got a lot more eyeballs on you i moved i moved away i move i ain't changed the way i move i moved i move the way i move i'll be jelling i go anywhere i want to go i'm not never by myself i'm always like three four people maybe two cars deep that's how i move boom time coming you feel like dropping dis songs put a target on your back like doing all the dissing and stuff on the music No, I don't feel like music, put a target on my back. And you seen what Mimo said about it. He said that you'll be dead by the end of the summer.
Starting point is 00:47:52 How do you feel about comments like that? Because of the dissing. Motherfords wanted me dead since I was a shorthy. I don't get no fuck about no comments like that. Never kid. My bro, got to get up with me. There ain't no catching me, though. You still live in Chicago?
Starting point is 00:48:10 You know that. I live there downtown. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, $3,000 a month. I don't be doing no fucking around. Two cars. Oh, bro. Are you allowed to leave Chicago or are you on, like, a band?
Starting point is 00:48:24 Like, you got to stay in Chicago? Like, if you wanted to, could you move? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I ain't leaving downtown, though. I'd be looking at my window. Three bucks a month. Two cars in my garage, I don't be playing, like. Is it safe to be living in Chicago, though,
Starting point is 00:48:50 when you drill rapper and you got all this stuff going on? Because it seemed like a lot of, people leave Chicago and then just come back and do like videos and stuff so like you you don't plan on ever leaving i love chicago bro that's my city i'm bro i might leave one day i'm cooler you can move to l.a and we could just hang out on some regular shit i like it out here though man bro i'm in a spot right now bro that motherfucker bro son he's paying six thousand a month for that bit. Oh, it's bad on here. I ain't go lie. That motherfucker's so
Starting point is 00:49:33 nice, though. Like, I'm like, damn, bro. I'm paying three bucks for my shit, my shit, and like, but his shit raw didn't mind, though. His shit raw is fucked, bro. He got so many bathrooms in this shit. Rooms in this shit. Then this shit, gated.
Starting point is 00:49:51 I'm like, damn, this bitch raw. Oh, bro. I ain't never experienced no shit like that. I ain't go lie to you. You like it, though, or you think it might hurt your music if you were away from all the shenanigans. It don't matter when I'm at making music.
Starting point is 00:50:08 I could be in Iraq. I could be in a county. I could be in Atlanta, New York. It don't really matter when I'm at. I feel like I'm always trying to make my way back to the city, though. I love my city lights. You got to be careful that you hear, Jay Main said he was whooping outside the corner store and he got shot out the other day when he went back.
Starting point is 00:50:32 Jay Man, you crazy, man. I fuck with Jay May, though. I'll fuck with him though Would you do a song with him? Yeah, I'll do a song with Jay Man Really? What if he was whooping in it? What if he was Like trying to be funny and shit? Would that be your style? Yeah, I'll fuck with it
Starting point is 00:50:49 I'll see you got a little fake-ass 50 right though You like that? Yeah, I like that You ever have one of those? No, I ain't never had one. Correct answer That was a test You know it. I was edited out if you you answered incorrectly.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Nah, you scraped? You don't smoke? No? No? No? No cigarettes? I don't smoke no cigarettes. I don't smoke no weed. I don't pop peels.
Starting point is 00:51:19 I don't do no lean. Just a little bit of liquor. Who was the first person from 05-1-your-on money to start rapping? I think, boom, the first motherfucker that started rapping from all shit. Damn, it was boom, wasn't it, TDB? Really? Oh, yeah. Snoopy said.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Yeah, I think. Rose was rapping then too. Yeah, Rose was rapping then too. Rose A was locked up. Man, I don't remember. Yeah, I ain't going to lie. Yeah. That's a good question.
Starting point is 00:52:15 That's real history. You got to break down the origin. Boom. Who was Big A? Who was Big A? I was written on you. Was that a girl? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:32 All right. So that was a girl, right? Yeah. Because I hear her name get tossed around in songs a lot. So explain to everybody who don't know who she is. It seemed like y'all always want to keep her name alive too. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's how about her.
Starting point is 00:52:47 She was the girl. Yeah, because she was like, you get on the same? Oh, bro. Like, she was done no business. Like, she loved everybody in. She made sure everybody's where you, you know what I was in. Yeah, yeah. That's how I brought her right though.
Starting point is 00:53:02 I'm bro. I used to get confused because I know there's a big A from O'Block, and I thought big A, Because I always hear a big A on both sides. I thought it was the same person. No. Did you know the other Big A? You got another Big A sitting right here.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Oh, yeah, we got Big A, too, right? Big Adam. Adam 22, you knew it. O'block, Adam. You obloch? You front your shit. You front your shit. Why, what's good?
Starting point is 00:53:32 Uh-uh. I tried. What's your relationship with Ruga? I've seen y'all dropped the song. How you feel about... Good guy. How did you meet Rubah? That's my boy.
Starting point is 00:53:45 It's crazy because I just got the phone with him, too. What he said? I got a message for you. What's that? Stop playing with him. Bro, he on your ass, though. Yeah? Yeah, he on your ass bad.
Starting point is 00:53:57 I'm not in the middle of that shit. I don't even know how that shit go, but he on your ass, though. He said he should have came out here with me. He's like, man, you should have told me, man. I would have booked a flight, man. I would have put on these motherfuck gloves, man. Be the fuck about Adam. He should have met Rick.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Rico reckless at the basketball court. Man, he was a who- I thought he went up, though. He didn't. Man, he went up there, man. Rico traveled from out of state to meet up with him, and he don't want to, he don't want to hoop.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Ruga, my boy. How'd you guys meet? Nah, we bend to each other. That's my boy, though. How fuck with Ruga. He's a good nigga. Not much of a fighter, though, right? Ruga, knock your ass out.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Who do you think of out that? Rooko reckless of Ruga. Who do you think of win that? had to put some money up. I know the other nigga. You don't know Rico Reco reckless? No. He's a legend.
Starting point is 00:54:50 Yeah. He was going viral probably when you was in jail, though. But yeah, he definitely was going viral. Ruga, that's my boy. Oh, bro. Rico Reckless, though. Legend. Shit, that's your opinion.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Remember when he came here looking for Soldier Boy? You just go look all that shit up. It was a whole era. That's your opinion. You fuck with Soldier Boy? I ain't a lot. He had this. me a I mean like this female song back in the day that kissed me through the phone shit you were
Starting point is 00:55:31 fucking with that yeah yeah yeah my boy the whole world was fucking with that shit motherfuckers couldn't wait to go to school this thing that shit to motherfucker he had a song like the first time I ever took an ex-pill and it was like l-o-l smiley face l-oel smiley face I sang that shit for like 12 fucking hours off of ex-pill yeah it was fucking bad when I woke up the next day just thinking like damn that was probably so cringy you just Kept singing that song. He was out with that shit, huh? Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:55:58 I was just gone. How do you feel about 0-5-1 Melly getting compared with King Vaughn and Tate Savage? Like, those are the three names that everyone's comparing them to. No. You can't compare my brother and nobody. My brother you need.
Starting point is 00:56:19 But I know you see those comparisons. You just feel like it ain't no comparison. Because it's crazy because Melly got this reputation. He ain't never even dropped any music. But everybody knows him. You know that? Put his mouth on my face. That is crazy.
Starting point is 00:56:38 He has this huge aura around him, but never dropped the song or anything. We know that. Why do you think everybody so intrigued with Melly? Pressure. He funny as he, though. You got to look at all this funny-ass video. So you used to go back and watch his lives and stuff?
Starting point is 00:56:55 I still do it, yeah, yeah. You seen it live with him in Zoo? Yeah. What you thought about that? To be 100, there's a video art, and no competition video, I want to say y'all had Reese on live in the video. It seemed like y'all started to go on live with the ops thing in that video.
Starting point is 00:57:12 And then Zhu and Melly went live. I know y'all remember the no competition video. I think little Reese was on a live. But technically the same thing wasn't live, but at the time it was FaceTime, which is like a former. But y'all was doing that, like calling your ops back in the day. Like, I've been doing stuff like that. I wasn't doing that shit. Who had them on live?
Starting point is 00:57:33 I mean, who had them on the FaceTime? I don't know, bro. I was locked up. Oh, you was locked up? Yeah. You feel like him doing a no-competition song, put a target on his back? Because they say he died like three days
Starting point is 00:57:45 after the song drop or something like that? Ain't no telling, bro. I don't know if it's because he had a target on his back. But because of what he said in the song. I don't know. Shit just be happening, bro. You just got to be more careful, bro. You know?
Starting point is 00:58:09 How do you feel about art? So the guy who allegedly killed Melly got charged, 007 and 8, is that someone you were friends with? Because, like, y'all all at, it was a party that Melly was at. So, like, he hanging out with people at that party and then he got back doored or something like that.
Starting point is 00:58:26 But the guy got booked for it. So, like, what's your relationship with, like, 007 and 8, or I think that's his name? Is that someone from the file, from Young Money earlier or no? No comment. So y'all would just throw, like, parties? Because I know y'all used to do, like, BD parties and GD parties
Starting point is 00:58:43 where you're going to, like, the parties and stuff before you got booked? Yeah, yeah. Every Friday. Yeah, yeah. We was doing our thing. Some parties should be fun like motherfuckling. If y'all would have came,
Starting point is 00:58:58 y'all would have been turnting that bit. Hell yeah. I don't think we would have been welcome. They'd probably be kind of confused about why we're there, right? I want to know what a bitch. you say that uh i don't know white out of town older so it's kind of like you know maybe maybe a weird vibe no they probably would have been trying to finesse you out your money but you would have been that though yeah they would have like man about this weed bro man about his liquor hey how much money
Starting point is 00:59:28 you got on your car probably sell me some fake pills or something yeah you got link card bro man you got a car i'm for a shot of you for everything that's why i'm funny as he That's why I'm bringing fucking security to this BDK party that you're throwing or whatever the fuck. This is called BDGD party. What do you call it? Yeah, we from the start a back. Yeah. Really?
Starting point is 00:59:52 BDK. Friday. Every Friday, we're from the start a back, bro. That's how we come. That's how we bomb you. What about peace, man? We got J. Main and Tay Savage pushing peace. And then meanwhile, you put out a song called No Peace.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Clearly not a big fan of the new wave. what's your thoughts on that I'm pushing peace but I'm not pushing no motherfucker piece on the internet I don't be doing all that shit to get views and followers I ain't doing all that shit
Starting point is 01:00:21 So you think it's fake? I don't get no fuck How many views I get How many followers I get I'm not doing shit on the internet To get no views or no followers I'm not bro If you want to push peace
Starting point is 01:00:33 bro we can link up We can link up in Washington Park Bro That's how that shit gonna go What are you gonna do just like talk out a peace agreement. If you want to push peace, bro, we can link up face to face
Starting point is 01:00:45 in Washington Park. Ain't no point of talking about pushing peace on a live, you know, talking about pushing peace on the internet for I'm not doing none of that shit for no followers, for no views. I don't get no fuck.
Starting point is 01:00:59 If you don't like my music, I'm, bro, move around, bro. Could you have a conversation at Washington Park and then bring it to the internet and make a vlog, announcing peace you just heard what I'm saying right if you want to push peace bro meet us and watch the park that's it that's how you come on fast bro we ain't doing all that goofy
Starting point is 01:01:25 ass shit on the internet bro that's why I see it what I said bro then you see the video Charleston White where he was giving you advice he didn't give me no advice um bro he didn't he was trying to at least did you see it he want to give me no advice man He don't even know me. Oh, bro. What's your thoughts on him just in general? On Fats, he's a goofy. So you ain't rocking with the Charleston White Way?
Starting point is 01:01:51 He's a goofy, bro. You just said on Fats. Fats is someone that, uh, is it, was it Fatt Head or what's his name? Yeah, Fat Head. So Melly is someone who always used to advocate for Fats. Who was, uh, what was Melly in Fats' relationship? That wasn't his brother. They're just close friends or a cousin.
Starting point is 01:02:07 Yeah, bro. It don't matter if we know blood. we bought us no for sure but like I think we and Melly are actual like blood brothers and then some of y'all are like just like friends but y'all still brothers
Starting point is 01:02:20 but like fats I don't know I thought maybe fats was like also we all blood butters that's how that shit go ain't no water between us because if it's water we ain't go stick we gotta be blood damn
Starting point is 01:02:35 who was fat's uh was he rapping or anything No, he went rapping and the corner school, fucking on the holes, playing basketball. RP fast. Yeah, R.P. Fass, because he's definitely somebody that I hear y'all talk about all the time.
Starting point is 01:03:00 I was hoping Driller came up here, man. We've been trying to get Driller up here. You got to bring Driller. Next time. My boy. You knew it. My brother. Drill Wick.
Starting point is 01:03:09 You know it. You going to get him? Yeah, we did. Drillard. You got to come up here, check your damn. Part two. I'm serious, though. Right.
Starting point is 01:03:18 You gonna get him? I mean, you guys want to come back in a few months or something, yeah, let's do it. Yeah, get him. That's my boy. I was just watching my on DJU, though. He wasn't really talking that much, to be totally honest. No, he's not no talk with a person.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Well, in an interview, that can kind of be a liability. Yeah, he's not. Not just an interview, that's just him. He don't know talk of the person. Bro, state it is. That's just him. You got to get the new. If y'all meet him, he would have been the same way right now.
Starting point is 01:03:46 He would have been sent back on his phone. all day that's all you do right it's not always the best content you want somebody who's gonna tell you shit so in Chicago we hear about Bd's and GDs all the time but it's kind of rare because we'd be hearing that O5-1 is Mickey Covers what's the difference between the Mickey Cobra BD well of course a BD and GD but like Mickey Cover seemed like it don't get that much attention from the Chicago rap scene it's just like we're always saying about BDs and GDs Yeah
Starting point is 01:04:18 Bidis, Gitties, me, Copeas. I don't know what to say, but I don't know. I don't even know I'll answer this question. Nah, because just for like, you know, Chicago, everybody's talking about the BDs and GDs, so just to see that, you know, you doing your shit, that's just, that's a good thing to see.
Starting point is 01:04:42 What's a message you have for the youth? For anybody right now that's looking up to you right now, a message that you'll tell them. Just stay out the streets, bro. I put a story. you up saying the matches of the youths. I just stay out the streets, man. Don't let nobody send you off.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Don't let nobody tear. You're like, man, go do this. I got you, bro. Man, sure you're hell and all, but don't do shit, you know. Oh, bro. Go to school. Folks on work. Fuck these little holes.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Get some money. Like I said, if you ever want or need something, you feel like you need it right now, bro, you're gonna get that shit. You don't need that shit right now. You gonna get it, you know what I'm gonna say? What if they were to say? I'm not taking that advice because you've kind of lived the total opposite.
Starting point is 01:05:32 I'm telling them that for a reason, though. You learned this lesson. Yeah, yeah. It don't matter if I'll stop doing it or if I'm still doing it. I'm telling you for a reason. A lot that come with this shit, you feel. Shit not simple. Shit not easy.
Starting point is 01:05:51 You feel like a lot of the older guys be sending guys off and having them do shit at a young age? I don't know what older nicks be having any short he's doing. And I don't get no fuck. I just got a message to the youth. Just sit down, bro. I just sit the fuck down. You're straight, bro.
Starting point is 01:06:10 You're gonna have everything, nigga. These shorties gonna have more than me. If they just sit down and be smooth, you know what I'm saying? You don't got to be in the streets. You don't got to prove none to these, niggas, something. I seen you said somewhere that you took a pipe case for someone before. You regret doing that, or you would have did it the same way? No.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Back then, like, any, it don't matter. My brother, we're gonna do it. You know what I'm gonna do it. I'm bro. But now, yeah, no, we're gone to see. Yeah, that was back then, I was sure. You know what I'm saying? It's just loyalty that I had to as a game.
Starting point is 01:06:49 And still, yeah, got to us again. Like, this is what it is. This is what I think. We had no fold on no aspect. What do you think about all the Chicago videos that's been leaking? I know you've seen the Little Jay video that leaked and the King Vaughn asking for PC. You think that's just the play to, is that acceptable to do?
Starting point is 01:07:09 Like, just, well, if you wanted to get on another deck, because your homie's on the deck, because that's what a lot of people said it was about, about him just trying to, like, work his move. How do you feel about stuff like that? Yeah, a lot of motherfuckers doing shit like that. But I feel like you shouldn't be doing shit like that. Like I said, in my other interview, shit, we all know, like, motherfucklers that knew him personally.
Starting point is 01:07:31 We all know he ain't gay, but doing that shit. To get off the deck, he's wild as hell. He's fronning this shit. He could have called for a crisis scene. Some shit I would have did. What's some shit I was doing. Man, I need a crisis team. Like I said in my other interview,
Starting point is 01:07:48 I killed myself right now. You don't go give me no crisis team. I'll wrap this motherfucker sheet around my name. You got me fucked up. So you can say that, but you can't say it. They'll go get you a crisis team. They might put you on watch for two, three days, but you're going to get, you ain't going to be over that no more.
Starting point is 01:08:04 They're going to ask you where you want to go. But he did the same shit. Then he told him like, man, no, I don't want to go. You feel it? Then they probably asked him like, man, all right, where you want to go? He probably told him like, I want to go over there. They put him over there. I'm broke.
Starting point is 01:08:19 But I wouldn't ever did that move, though. Hell no. I'm calling for a crazy team. For a nothing. We had a gay crip on the show. Yeah. What do you think of that? You think gay gang members will ever be accepted?
Starting point is 01:08:34 Shit. You getting some money? The gay guy? It's my true. I'm getting some money, I guess, yeah. Whoever you want to have on your show, you got him on your show. But do you think that would ever be accepted in Chicago? Shit, I don't get no fuck what.
Starting point is 01:08:52 Accepted or what's not accepting in Chicago. Shit, as long as you ain't bothering me, I'm scray. Yeah, yeah, I'm scrayed. That's very open-minded of you. man I'm straight man you go your way I go my way leave me alone
Starting point is 01:09:10 I'll leave you alone but you got any gay friends look no I don't got no gay friends you couldn't do it do what have a gay friend yeah no why not
Starting point is 01:09:22 why not why not what if that was just the homie what if you grew up on hell no bro So if one of your homies that you grew up with is secretly gay, your advice is to just keep it to himself? Man, you don't got to keep it to yourself, but...
Starting point is 01:09:47 Damn, bro. It was a video of, I think his name was, like, 0-5-1, Ario. He was, like, crying or something. I know you've seen a viral video. Everybody's talking about it. Who is he to you? That's my brother. I didn't see no video of him crying.
Starting point is 01:10:05 What was the... Well, it was a viral. Audio? Audio. It was like a video of him. I think he was in a police station. Am I talking about the same? Ariel, Ariel.
Starting point is 01:10:17 I seen you talk about it, too. I think it was on DJU. On DJU? Yeah, I think DJU might have asked you about it too. Man, I had a few interviews. I don't remember me that shit. But who was 0-5-1-Ario? Like, one of your brothers, but like...
Starting point is 01:10:31 You're saying his name on 0-5-1. Ariel? Oh, Ariel. That's how you said. Yeah, Ariel. Where is he at now? Is he in jail? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:42 He's gonna come home. He got like two weeks left. I'm bro. I ain't see no video of him crying. That's some motherfucker I had to show him. Even if I did see a video of him crying, he's just a funny-ass nigga, bro. He's goofy as hell, bro.
Starting point is 01:10:57 He probably front-in-ish. I don't know what the fuck wrong, bro. You ever cry? Yeah, I cried before. Yeah, yeah. When was the last time? I was in prison? It was the only time I cried.
Starting point is 01:11:13 Just because you're just so miserable in there? Miserable as fuck. He's just thinking about all the motherfuckers who lost, whoever left out of your life. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I cry. Yeah, yeah. Music ever make you cry?
Starting point is 01:11:34 Listen to some music. I can't necessarily say it made me cry, but it do be having me in my feelings, though. Boy, Dia had me in my feelings. I'm emotional-ass, nigga, though. Oh, bro. I be getting my feeling. That's why I be listening to ride away, a young boy.
Starting point is 01:11:51 I don't know wrong, though. Tosie. Oh, bro. How you feel about the backlash you got for putting your girl in the video and everyone was talking shit? And is she your girl that was, like, holding you down for when you was in your bid,
Starting point is 01:12:06 or where do you know her from? No, she can't part of my life when I have, like, 18 months left. In backlash? Shit, I want to get no backlash. How did you meet her? In prison? It's like IG or something.
Starting point is 01:12:22 I didn't meet girls in prison. One of the guys that was an anecdote to me, he was in one cell. I was in two. A little female that he was talking to. I had a friend at the time. I ain't had nobody a part of my life. And he's like, damn, I love, bro. I'm trying to put you on the covers his little female.
Starting point is 01:12:43 Ooh, you feel me? I'm like, I'm like, all you back. he put me in tune with him once she became a part of my life and fun of her she made sure I was scrayed like besides the guys like my father
Starting point is 01:12:58 and bro she made sure I was great four hundred dollars a month that's a crazy love story right there oh 400 dollars a month they can make a movie out of that Bernard visits five hours away minar correction in the center
Starting point is 01:13:11 it's hard now and tough now you only get that phone twice a week bro maybe three times a week how long was you like oh was y'all on face time or just like a regular audio call well when you was talking there like you just talking there you ain't know she looked like video video video
Starting point is 01:13:30 before before I was seen like faith to face on the video it was video visit then I was seen on a visit you know what I was coming like visit that like she almost died going home from coming to visit me bro she got into a car crash she was 15 minutes from time bro wow that's fucking crazy yeah yeah bro what did you do when you got out how did you like uh the first things that you wanted to do it was raining when i got out bro but you already know what one of the first thing
Starting point is 01:14:13 that i wanted some pussy i needed some ass boy it was tripping yeah i feel that Yeah, yeah, but... How did you got some ads and shit? What was the first restaurants or something that you went to go eat at? I was eating everything. Anything I seen and I wanted. That shit was fucking my stomach, I had to slow down on that shit. I was eating all type of shit.
Starting point is 01:14:40 How long it take you to get accustomed to, like, the new social media and the iPhones? When you went in jail, iPhones wasn't out? Or were they? Yeah, they were. They were? Oh, yeah, probably iPhone 3. Early days. iPhone 4. That's the last phone I have when I got.
Starting point is 01:14:54 I'm not sure old as he. You didn't have a phone in prison? Yeah. You did? Yeah, yeah. Because you keep saying that you, like, were locked up for things, but I assume you're probably able to pay attention
Starting point is 01:15:07 to some shit on the phone. Yeah, yeah. The phone's easiest here to use. Yeah, yeah, I have phones in prison. Why would I not? One of them niggas. Do you catch any, like, additional charges while you were locked up
Starting point is 01:15:20 or end up in any crazy shit? No. Just see it. Well, six months, a year's a sig. What's that? Sig. That's in the hole. Damn, so what was that like being in the hole?
Starting point is 01:15:33 It's hard back though. What did you get sent to the hole for? See, I phone tickets. A couple fights. Assaults on the police. Oh, bro. So you was getting in the fights in all, Joe? Goofy shit. Goofy-ass fights, too.
Starting point is 01:15:49 Like, motherfuckers owe me money and shit. And they asked in Japan to pay that. shit on time so we might see some shower at rare video leaks are you soon fighting in jail shit link them search my name I'm boo you always win I ain't hard to find bro don't know nigger play with me bro I'll be be mean motherfuckers ass I ain't go lie to you but if you're fighting all the time you never had one go bad you need to have an interview with a motherfucker in jail that know everything about shit that's in jail and who ever heard about motherfuckers in jail, they'll tell you, bro.
Starting point is 01:16:27 Motherfuckers in jail. The same way, my name might be bigger. Way bigger now in jail because I'm home now. But motherfuckers in jail ain't play with me, though. I don't even talk to, niggas. I'm not no friendly-ass nigger.
Starting point is 01:16:46 I don't be with all that friendly, goofy-ass shit. I don't do that shit. So, do you ever see a Glockduki in action? Glockedookey. Is that a myth? Or you just never saw it? No, I ain't never saw it. My motherfuckers do be playing with Glock Dukies, though.
Starting point is 01:17:06 Crazy. You never had one? No. I don't play with shit, bro. Feces, bro. I don't play with shit. Yeah, it's hard for me to imagine. What about the Savage life?
Starting point is 01:17:18 That was something going on while you was in there? No, I was in a joint. I was in a joint when that was going on. So you didn't witness it? I ain't witness none of that shit. Do you think that's all out of pocket? Shit, I'm not a part of it. That's all that matter.
Starting point is 01:17:37 For the record, the idea is that you, like, knock somebody out and then you pull their pants down and spit on their asshole to establish dominance. That shit, yeah. Focus is hell, man. That's rape, bro. No, hell, no. We ain't doing that.
Starting point is 01:17:53 We ain't doing that, buddy. You got to draw the line somewhere. We ain't doing that. That's too much, bro. Yeah, that's like, It's kind of amazing that people even thought that up. Yeah, that's too much. We got to take a stand.
Starting point is 01:18:13 We should start, like, a whole movement against doing that to people. That's too much, bro. That's crazy. We got to take a stand. I've seen a clip where you were saying that, I think someone asked you that, do you really believe there's $100,000 on your head? I don't get no fuck.
Starting point is 01:18:38 Do I believe it? Yeah, do you believe it, though? I be believing in all type of shit. but I don't believe shit even if it is you ain't gonna be able to collect it bro I don't get no fuck
Starting point is 01:19:03 if you go work with any artists that's not from Chicago like you because I are you got any music on the way so like any artist that you want to reach out to or who would you want to work with
Starting point is 01:19:16 like any mainstream artist for your like an album or any EP that you're working on right now as long as you don't fuck with the officers that's all that matter I don't get no fuck who I work with but there ain't nobody specific that you care to reach out to?
Starting point is 01:19:30 No. What about listening to was like who you're main, besides Ryeway, any other mainstream people not paying music that you rock with? Hey, who'll do what I'd be listening to? Little Rye. Yeah, a little Rye. I was just in the studio with L'Rai from Alabama.
Starting point is 01:19:51 Yeah. I was with him like two days ago. I could probably link y'all up. Ego crazy. No, ain't no point of you linking me up with him. I'll link up with myself or I want to really get in tone with him. Uh-huh. If you like his music, though?
Starting point is 01:20:04 I fuck with his music. He go crazy. How you find him? Shit, I was scrolling through YouTube. That song. That little, all went wrong. He went crazy on that shit, bro. If you were to do a song with Young Boy,
Starting point is 01:20:19 would you rather do a pain song or like a gangster-ass song? No, we gonna go crazy. We gotta go crazy. Yeah, yeah. You like his pain music or the murder music more? I fuck with his pain music Go crazy
Starting point is 01:20:38 Ain't nobody fucking with him When they come to pain music Ain't no motherfucker that's in the industry Fucking with him when it comes to pain music He got that shit He got that shit Especially when it's talking about females He got that shit
Starting point is 01:20:54 How many kids you got? I don't got no kids He got 12 I thought you asked how many kids I got No I did but I'm just saying You got some work to do You're trying to make one son I'm stacking this money first.
Starting point is 01:21:08 You got to be financial stable. Can't just be having kids out of her. It's all the type of motherfucker. Baby mom was in. Baby did is all you fucked up. You can't even provide for the child probably. I'm scraped. You know, if it happened, it happened.
Starting point is 01:21:22 And if it do happen on program, I'm going to be overly stacking that shit up. I'm not even going to be ban shit the way I be ban shit. My fit that I got on right now is close to a thousand dollars. I can't be doing that if I got a child. bro you gotta keep the kid fresh too
Starting point is 01:21:40 you gonna say I gotta keep that little motherfucker fresh especially a girl and a boy you gotta keep them icy so I'm gonna have to be dirty for mine game
Starting point is 01:21:55 what do you see yourself five years from now I'm gonna be rich as ill I'm gonna have it all do you picture yourself still in Chicago five years from now yeah yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:22:10 I'm gonna have a big-ass man shit then yeah yeah yeah I'm not leaving my city I'm gonna be traveling this shit but I ain't leave in my city though I'm a big ass man big shit bro that's what's up
Starting point is 01:22:32 um all right when are we gonna get an actual project because that's one thing that's annoying is that I got to just watch your shit on YouTube and it's all singles on iTunes you gotta put a project out so I can just have a nice little playlist to listen to.
Starting point is 01:22:47 I apologize, but I'm going to make it happen for you. We're going to do it for sure. We're going to get to it. That's in the works? Yeah, yeah. I just got to sit down, probably moving around too much,
Starting point is 01:22:59 but for sure, this winter, I'm really sitting down. And by the summer come, oh, my, fuck. You're going to do a tape with new music or a tape with, like, old shit? No, new. I brought to do all singles.
Starting point is 01:23:18 That's why I ain't dropped it yet. I was supposed to drop it on Fest Day, but Wu told me, like, why would you drop a tape with songs that you already did a lot of views on? And that motherfucker's already heard. So you got to do shit with a lot of new shit on it, and it made sense. So I'm away. Ain't no point of me putting shit out there that motherfucker's heard. Motherfers ain't going to want to listen to that shit if you put out of tape.
Starting point is 01:23:47 I mean, the other way to think of it is that, all that shit's already on YouTube, so you might as well put it together in one package for people so that it could be on there because every tape is just going to be earning you money. Yeah, I might do that.
Starting point is 01:24:01 Once you start seeing those streams coming, you're going to be like, oh, yeah, I want to put a bunch of projects out. Because it's like a snowball each month the more shit you got on there. No, on Melly birthday, we suppose, have a tape coming out. We're trying to figure all that shit out right now.
Starting point is 01:24:16 But my other fuck be moving around. Working too much. Bro, do construction. The rest of the guys, they're doing something productive and trying to get some money. So, motherfuckers be trying to focus. Then a lot of the guys got kids, too.
Starting point is 01:24:35 So it's like besides working, like I feel like I could do all this shit. Like everything that I'm doing, I can do that because I don't got no kids. So if anything, if they can't do it, I'm going to make this shit happen. Mm. Bro.
Starting point is 01:24:52 That's what so. up any uh last words anything anybody want to shout out why you're mey may lily way shout like big is off 05 1 kiddo for ever getting that game there it is thank you remo my co-host 051 kiddo going to the top no that you're on money yeah yeah no jumper coolest podcast in world checks out on youtube tic-tok patreon instagram etc like comment and subscribe, nojumber.com, if you want to support. Wow.

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