No Jumper - 100k Track, Montana 700 & Zillionaire Doe on Taking Over Dallas & More
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No jumper, coolest podcasts in the world.
And today, I'm with my man Remo,
and we having a conversation with a legend himself, 100K track,
and he brought along all of his artists.
I guess he got a whole new crop of artists coming through at this point,
taking Florida and down south by storm as usual.
How you feeling, Trach?
Texas.
I'm cool.
You know what I'm saying?
We actually got family in this gang, you know what I'm saying?
Zina, Erdog, Montana, 700 out of Dallas, you know?
The new Dallas, though?
New Dallas.
So you're both from Dallas.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm from Florida all day.
You know, we're coming in this.
Yeah, they're from Dallas.
This is the New Dallas, though.
What that mean, the New Dallas?
The New Dallas is like everybody just come together, you know what I'm saying?
It's one because, as you know, it's the world no before.
Dallas was destroyed, you know what I'm saying?
Between and it was divided, you know what I'm saying?
We bring the city back together.
Our parts, our sides, everybody comes together, you know what I'm saying?
and just do this shit, put this shit together.
Shit, the whole movement.
All the whole city behind it.
So all the hood's like coming together and shit,
no matter what part?
I'm at what part.
I'm not where you're from.
Every hood.
When you see us in your video,
there's somebody from every hood in your video.
You guys have been done before.
Who's the older generation of Dallas
that have been kind of left in the dust
as y'all are taking over?
Man, we want to say left in the dust.
And nobody left.
It ain't, it ain't.
Everybody from the win.
But it just like the city was destroyed.
You know what I'm saying?
We just want to unite and bring everybody together because like I said before, us, the city was destroyed and divided, you know what I'm saying?
Now, shit, we're just trying to put this shit together.
So, shit, everybody would be on one accord and we are all pushing the same.
So you think that during the Mo3 versus Yellow Bezzy era, the city got two divided?
Of course.
I heard that from a lot of people.
Yeah, for sure.
It wasn't really like that before that, and then after that it was.
Yeah, you got to look at it.
Boom, Dallas before Yellow Bees and Moe 3, Trayboy, Fred.
Like, Dallas, we never had no one to just go mainstream.
You know what I'm saying?
And once we finally got our chance, it's like, damn, it was fucked up.
So now we're trying to bring it back together.
That's why we called it, like, the new Dallas, you know what I'm saying?
Like, we got another shot at this shit.
We're going to do it right this time.
How did y'all tap in with track?
Shit, just networking music, you know what I'm saying?
Shit, track reached our tools.
He reached our tools and shit.
Y'all on FaceTime.
Been rocking that since.
How long ago was that?
When did y'all?
Two and a half months ago?
About three?
About three months ago?
Yeah.
Actually reached out to go first.
He reached out to me.
He had Paul reached out to me.
But I had already a little situation I had got into.
So shit, he had reached out the brother.
You know what I'm saying?
And shit.
We had just put it on the flow.
We been locked down.
It was in.
Okay.
Because normally when we think about Tragg,
now obviously you worked with people like Vaughn and shit,
but we always think of you as kind of being
at the forefront of Discover in Florida artists.
before they pop.
Yeah, I mean, you know, that comes because that's my territory, so.
But as far as, like, working outside of Florida, you know, I always have been, like,
30-D Grammy was out of St. Louis.
Okay.
Slat-Zai was, like, you know, I'm saying, Tennessee.
So I always been working with outside Florida.
But right now, like, for real, Dallas got it on a lot.
Like, the new Dallas movement is crazy.
The shit I'm seeing with my eyes and, like, how they really moving around these, like,
more the ones for, you know.
So that's just motivating me to really tap in with their culture type of shit.
Every time we come outside
As a movie
I realize
We can pull it up to the gas
You're not gonna get jumping
A hundred people
To pull up to the house
Easy
Like easy
Like, you know
Like that's,
So what part of Dallas
y'all from?
I'll be seeing Oak Cliff
Oh cliff
And here where we go
Both of them sat out of
Fax
Everywhere we go
Oh shit
Here we go
Oh shit, I'm on the table
I saw somebody
hanging out of the back on
You're like
Blue hunters
Here where we go
We go
Oh shit
A buck 20 up there
Yeah
No big deal
Man
Man shit like
I see it's a lot going on.
There's no fake.
No fake bills in here either.
You want to know something to do it.
Got no problem.
It's not no problem.
I can tell right away.
I had a lot of fake money thrown on the table in front of me in my past, so I could tell.
I ain't playing no type of game.
So break down what it's like growing up in Oak Cliff?
Like what's the difference?
Different what?
Like, all right, that's North Dallas?
Or what part of Dallas is that?
Or is that the neighborhood?
Southern Dallas, all right.
It's the same thing.
Same as the whole d'edalda to me.
Yeah.
I moved around a lot in Dettos, though.
I stayed in the hell clipper as a baby.
All right.
So, shows.
And what about you?
Well, for me, growing up, like, for me, like,
my parents, like, my, my pops and shit,
like, they always fuck with music and shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, my pops, like, this Z and their records.
It was a label my daddy started like this shit day back like 1980.
I'm saying?
My dad was like big drug, king pan, shit, he just started with the music, you know what I'm saying?
And shit, like I never had thought to do music, you know what I'm saying?
I grew up, I was around it so much.
It wasn't nothing to me.
Like I said before, Trouble Freddie and him had made it.
Like in Dallas, no one had made it before.
So it's kind of like, when I see them with the music, I'm like, it's like they're wasting their time because it's like, shit,
I never seen nobody go to know.
where I do nothing. I never thought to do music and nothing like that. I just started
rapping and shit. But your dad's locked up right now? He's not locked up now. He's free now.
Oh, okay. How long do you do? He just did three years. Oh, okay. You're talking,
you're saying a drug kingpin. I'm thinking he definitely sat down for a while.
Not, not. Not. Not. Not that long. He did three years, you know what I'm saying?
But this was back when I was like a baby, though. Okay. But I'm just, I was really just going
back, taking out back in the past because he asked I wasn't and except daddy. I'm saying. I'm just
flashing back on my life, you know what I'm saying, but shit in the South is really like grown up anywhere
Any artists under him that we would know from the past?
No one that child would know like I say before the end shit. Daddy's nobody's nobody made
man. Yeah, man's time to push this shit like there's some shit as in that shit like throwback for him
like shit they've been trying to push. Okay. Now a light back on the city we don't know
dad's like it's on us so bro still pushing what was throwback for him.
But normally tracks involved with a different type of Z.
If you know what I'm saying
No Zapp
I'm saying all that shit
See how I've been pushing the Zayana movement
Yeah we've been pushing the Z in their movement
It's really like the third generation
It was my daddy
My big brother
And it's me
You know what I'm saying
We're pushing it like anybody in deadly
Like if you know real dad in history
You can go ask that
They'll tell you
You know what I'm saying
This shit run along
This shit run deep
Word
I'm saying
And then how do you get the name
Montana 700
700 700 700
700 700
The street
I would
Oh clip
all right for sure so that's where the 700 come from you ever heard of montana 300 yeah see
you think about that i never cared about it because i'm like shit chicago shit yeah fuck there i'm gonna go
big like i heard a bro but i ain't like i feel like like we can go big than that i was i go
past him man that shit ain't gonna matter okay did you find out about him from the pipeline song or was
it before that uh and nah it was it was before that okay and then when he didn't know no like
disrespectful no but like that's just how i felt about
I mean, as far as, like, the pipeline record, that's, that's new.
That's how big that record is going so crazy.
It just came out two weeks ago, right?
Yeah.
We've been bullied.
Got fat in the video?
Yeah.
What you all watch to be fat relationship like?
Nah, fuck about it.
We lock.
Yeah.
I'm sure my love, like, real love.
How y'all all start building this shit?
Where y'all know each other from?
I locked them back with my n'nick.
Mm-hmm.
My nigga twin, like, this in part like a year and a half ago.
Twin from Dallas, too, or?
No, twin from Miami.
Not, Memphis.
Twin from Memphis.
12 minutes.
All right, for sure.
Yeah, it seemed like everybody's tapping in
with the wave and shit early on.
I ain't on.
Everybody we running to,
like, it's just genius.
They don't.
They're gravitation.
Like, I ain't faking it or putting on no facade.
Like, this shit, really going on.
Like, nigga ain't clad chasing.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's shit real.
It's authentic.
You got to fit it, you know what I'm saying?
Because I was watching y'all during their black,
well, Big Fax podcast interview
which dropped three days ago.
But y' y'all actually did that like a month ago.
And where y'all have performed that?
Y'all opened up.
Together land at the first part.
the big ass like in front of 10, 20,000 people.
Like, we ain't never did no shit like this before.
Well, he held, but that was my first time.
Not in the city, though, like, in Florida, like, right in Saddellis?
Like, it's the fur.
We did.
The Fur Park is in South Dallas, where I'm from.
Like, South Dallas is where, it's called the Fur Park.
It's where the fur is held every year in October, you know what I'm saying?
It's like, I grew up, this is where I grew up at, and to do a show here.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like, what's crazy.
So, yeah, so what was the experience?
Like, 20,000 people in the crowd.
Like, 20,000 people, like, shit.
shit and it was crazy.
Like, it was a wonderful feeling.
The short set, the short, the set short, because we show up,
we were running late, but we still perform.
They screaming in the crowd, like, we couldn't keep going because it was time for us to go.
Yeah, that shit was live, though.
You all know Rainwater?
Yeah.
Does he run Dallas?
Nah.
I'm not just randomly hating.
The only reason I say that is because I did a podcast with Wack 100 and Rainwater,
and Rainwater were saying some shit about.
by run Dallas and Wack, who obviously
not exactly a Dallas local.
He said, hey, you don't run
shit in Dallas. And it was just like
a crazy-ass moment, and I don't know. I didn't really
know what to think of it.
It's impossible to run.
It's not possible. It's
people that own the biggest building in
Dallas. So how could you say you run Dallas?
That's like smile thinking to me.
Saying you run it is just asking for problems.
Now, if he had said, I am a very influential
person in Dallas, everybody would be like,
all right, yeah, a bit.
You've done a lot of good shit in the music game.
run anywhere, you know what I'm saying? Because it's like,
that's like smile-minded thinking to
say that you run somewhere. That's
impossible, right? I just seen a
Rainwater clip where he was saying that
he's seen Sean Khan help blow y'all up
from an interview. Got you seen that? Yeah.
What's our relationship like with Sean?
Sean just hit me the other day, like, let's get
an interview in. But I really don't know Sean
like personally. I don't know Sean. He just
mentioned us a few times in an interview.
We've been working on. Do you y'all, yeah, do you
agree with what Rainwater said? No.
Shit, no. That's what I was from to say. I wouldn't
say Sean Kahn
helped blow us up. Every post that's been on
Sean Kahn Kahn been paid for at our pocket.
$1,000 a Pax.
Like we're like 20,000,000.
Like, we're like, you know what I am?
But he doesn't reach that and texted me in the DM
and say he's support what we got going on.
But him mentioning us definitely helped in a way.
But you got to understand, like a lot of people,
like that interview with some on, I think, I want to say,
like YouTube, you know what I'm saying?
A lot of people, you got some audience on YouTube,
but all the audience is not on YouTube
you know what I'm saying?
You got something at all.
So like I said in the way it does help
but you can't just say that's what blew us up
we've been working hard, bro.
Like we're growing hard for this shit.
Like we're putting in footwork like we're working hard.
Like we ain't, so it'll be crazy for somebody
to singly hand to say they blew us up.
Like we've been putting in working.
We're in dropping y'all.
I know.
It might play a part.
They play a part.
They play a part.
I appreciate, nigga grateful for that.
But you can't just say that single-handedly just blew us up
because we've been putting,
if you go, you can go look.
It went by all, you know what?
Yeah.
We were putting in work.
We were in working, real work.
So as far as, like, Dallas, when did you guys, like, get into him and start, like, kicking it?
Y'all been rocking out?
No, see, before, like, we, uh, see, my man, my boy over there at Congo, he had a studio,
and, bro, was I already rapping with Congo at the studio, you know what I'm saying?
I wasn't rapping, but I had new brother, like, through mutual people, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
And I really weren't rapping.
But I really knew, bro, from the streets.
You was a good.
You know what I'm saying?
I knew bro from the streets, too, but really.
when we had went to the studio one time
and linked up at the studio
from that day we had just been
locked in ever since
you know what I'm saying?
But do you think that's part of what's making y'all
take off and have so much support in Dallas
just the fact that y'all are from different places
or represent different parts of the city?
Definitely.
They play a major part in, you know what I mean?
Yeah, they play a major part.
People ain't never seen this shit.
Unseen of folks, you know what I'm saying?
No pride, no ego, like support each other.
Shit.
Bro got a show, I'm there. I got a show.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's shit like, it's real, like.
So you been, you was rapping first, right?
Yeah.
So how long you, because one of your first songs,
probably like six years ago?
Yeah.
Was paranoid?
That was the first one?
All right for sure.
You know some.
Yeah, I've been doing my research.
I started with my brother died.
My brother died.
That's crazy.
My brother died at 2017, and when I started rap.
Bro, really the only nigga that knew I was
made my first song,
like a week before he passed.
A little freestyle out of my phone.
We were on the phone and talking.
I'm like, shit, nigga, Mike can rap.
We all you just freestyle
when a nigga was scranted and shit
walking through him
and you start
freestyle and just
trying to figure this shit up
Yeah
He's like bro,
we're not fucking with that rapping shit
Bro, like I'm not fucking with it
You like make the song
See what it's saying
Like I made a song
Come back in like 30 minutes
He's like now I ain't gonna lie
That hell really sound like something
Bro, he ended up passing away though
Like a week and a half later
Damn
I'm like shit
I'm gonna push this shit
Damn
And that motivates you to keep going
And then bro gave you the stamp
Before you left too right?
Yeah that was my brother
How did he pass away?
He got killed.
Yeah, in Texas?
Yeah.
And you got to tell, hold on.
This story gets a little crazy, right?
You got to tell him, your production company name?
Double M records.
What's so crazy?
Shut up.
He's double L.
And Big Zika, like a big double L.
Oh, word.
And that's my homie Wiz,
that I used to work with,
and his stuff was Double M Records.
Wiz the Wizard.
Because he used to be under me.
Remember I brought him on the interview?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Now, which was dope.
He was around for a couple different times
before he passed.
That shit was terrible, man.
So when he told me that, too,
like everything was just like insane.
It's double in, but it wasn't the same.
Yeah, it's not the same.
So that shit resonated with me.
And the meaning behind, like, his homie dying,
and that's what he's doing it.
And my homie being whizzed.
And that's, like, all that shit just made that shit so much more powerful.
Yeah.
So, so, like, what are you looking for now days when you sign an artist and shit?
Like, of course, they got the streets on lock.
But, like, what made you gravitate towards them?
I mean, as far as, like, it's a difference to me, though,
because there's artists that I do sign, you know what I'm saying,
that I have to kind of put everything behind.
But with these, like, with Montana and Do,
it's more of like a real partnership.
Like, you know, they do their thing,
and I'm just coming in and just highlighting the bigger picture type of shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, honestly, because the way they brand their business,
they were already motioned.
They already got all this shit.
So all they really need is somebody with the, like,
connections on the end, like the business side.
Yeah.
That looked like them, talk, like them sound like,
you know, it's relatable, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
So it really made more sense to, like,
come through as a partner.
That's what I'm saying.
They ain't signed to me, but on some partnerships shit,
like we're making this shit together.
You know, New Dallas 100K, like, it's all like, you know what I'm saying?
So what's the game plan is for you to just build them up as much as possible
and then get a label to invest in?
Honestly, he got his own label.
They got their own, he got the Zian there, he got the on double M.
So my job is just to make sure their vision come true.
Like, the steps that I had to go through and all the bullshit I had to deal with,
I kind of, like, bypass that.
Because now we could go talk to Celine.
We could go talk to the guy.
We could go talk to this.
Like, because they already got that own shit going on.
So on the business side, I'm just the guy that's really making sure the business is good.
You know what I'm saying?
Because really, they got everything else.
They're really doing this shit on their own type of shit.
You know what I'm saying?
So together, this shit more powerful.
So what made you think you feel like, all right, so what was it grind up to that point?
You started dropping music about six years ago.
You dropped paranoid.
But it wasn't instant, you know what I'm saying?
Success right then and there.
When was the first song, you felt like, all right, they're catching on?
Nah, hell not, because I didn't used to rap consistently.
Like I dropped a song aired eight months,
I ain't really knew to just shoot no videos and nothing.
No Parano, the first song I ever made in the studio.
So I was like, shit.
After that, I really started being consistent
when we was at the studio like a year and a half,
or two years ago, I'm like, shit.
I really from the stop rapping, that was the one of the two.
Be consistent, I'm like, shit.
I'm gonna be consistent for six months.
If this shit don't work, then I'm gonna stop.
I'm gonna keep going on studio.
I'm already alive.
That shit, it's started going up.
We were just trying to get a thousand views.
Oh, God.
My life.
I need it. We want a thousand views.
That was a goal.
I afraid of drop my video.
I still got the post right now.
It's, man.
I don't want it was a thousand views.
I didn't think I'd get a thousand views.
And at this point, there's no management or anybody involved.
This y'all just off the muscle, right?
Everybody, like, it's our food.
Management out, boy, we brought in with it.
But, like, the homies from the block tight shit, was that?
So who gave y'all, like, the idea like, all right, you know what?
I'm going to drop this song, but let me reach out to the blogs.
Because you said that child's band, say cheese and.
It's really like whatever we do, like, we ain't playing.
Like, we're going for the, we're trying to go big, you know what I'm saying?
So we already know, we're not no dumbies.
We already know, you know, you got to promote the music, you know what I'm saying.
And we know say cheese is down to the biggest platform right now.
It ain't good matter to it.
So it only makes it metal to it.
You got to go say cheese.
That's common sense.
Every time you drop, I'm going to say cheese.
Every time you drop, go say cheese.
That's common sense.
That's the biggest platform in the world.
Say, too.
I've been trying to get him.
Oh, man.
Hold on.
I don't know jump at him to it, you know.
For real?
You got to check the Dins.
He said he was trying to get on your shit.
Word.
You can't take anything away from Sean,
especially for down south.
His shit is it.
Whereas, like, East Coast,
academics, he got like a little bit
of a special stranglehold on the East Coast
and on the West Coast.
You look at no jumper.
I'm tagging all three.
You're tagging out of three?
Well, I need off the.
Nah, straight up.
Yeah.
Mm.
I look at S.A.C.,
like, the modern day news.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She's definitely going crazy and shit.
Right there.
You seen the DMs?
He had DMs when he was hitting you?
He said he'd been trying to, so, holl at you.
Oh, shit.
When was this?
Oh, that was just, like, recently, huh?
I was telling you about my boy, I was like, man,
we need to get him on here, this, this.
Oh, yeah, he told, yeah, it's crazy.
You told me, uh, you said you don't just do that like that,
On the way here, he was just telling us that he's like, man, yeah, I tried to come up here and tell Adam Batchel, you know what I'm saying.
He's like, I told him we'll pay or whatever.
He's like, nah, he's like, shit, you got it.
It don't work like that.
Yeah, yeah.
I felt like that would fuck everything up if we were taking money for it or whatever.
For the record, no DMs from Montana 700.
Yeah, Montana dot 700.
Oh, no, I'm not saying.
Don't show that like that, Eddham.
I just followed it, but.
It's the wrong one of them.
Oh, it could have been another page you had.
Niggas be losing their pages.
Man, hold on, hold on.
What the Adam just say?
Let's bet a thousand.
It says no DMs.
There's been a thousand.
Your phone is too new.
This phone, at least a year old.
Oh, no, it's in no jumper.
Oh, you're hitting a jumper.
All right, yeah, but, man, I'll be on their ass too.
I'm like, man, you guys are missing out on a lot of promo requests in the fiends.
Let me see it for myself.
I'm going to use that as an example.
A thousand DM.
Damn.
I'm trying to spend it.
I don't get a, I know what we need to do.
Straight out.
I'm wasting myself.
Straight up.
When I really want to get on my hustle,
I need to just get in the No Jumper DMs.
But remember, like a month ago,
I was going crazy
because we couldn't get them to load right.
That's why I can't even get mad at the team
for not responding to everybody.
Oh, you're back to.
Oh, that's crazy.
That's doing numbers.
That's like you got a whole bunch of fiends
on the other side of town and you're not serving them.
That's against my moral code.
Everybody got to get serves.
Oh, Adam's right up.
Trapped jumping.
Exactly.
How I feel Adam to build a platform
I'm like, you know what I'm saying, from the bottom, and now you see what it comes to.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
I mean, honestly, what feels good is just having the respect to people who are real representatives of the streets and where you're from and shit like that.
And to have the respect to be able to sit down and have these kind of conversations means a lot to me.
Straight up.
How long you've been doing this?
Almost 10 years.
Yeah.
Insane.
I don't even understand.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
So when you fired out, it was going to pop out.
Shit, when I interviewed a little Florida jit name XXX Tentatio.
That's when I was like.
oh okay this shit really going crazy when was it 2016 yeah the first year doing
interviews I did the biggest interview in the history of YouTube years yeah that's
about eight but it's about to be 20 25 that'd be nine years but I was doing
interviews since 2015 but it just took like a year yeah that was the biggest one for
a shirt really from Florida you feel me yeah yeah I'd be trying to tell like
people the bro like you ain't got a rap you know what I'm saying you can bid you
platform, you know what I'm saying? Like, you can be the Knicks, no jumper. You can be the Knicks
Say Cheese, like, you know what I'm saying? Your man right here, I've seen him. When I met him,
he was in the studio with a drummer boy, and he was telling me about how he was working with Kodak,
how he was involved on the merch side and everything, and he told me about Melly. I go check him
out. I'm like, Dan, it's a pretty cool song, and then all of a sudden shit starts going crazy
from that. And one day, I got a King Vaughn interview. He walks in with him, but that's just a good example,
was that he was rapping.
At a certain point,
he realized his talents
were better utilize
in other directions.
Yeah,
you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's when I had a,
what,
like a $5 dollar hoodie
on with Snoppy Game Run.
Oh,
for sure,
you didn't have all those
changes on y'all.
It ain't meant to be
everybody for the artist.
Find something that you do
and stick to it.
Y'all got artists
underneath y'all, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a whole movement.
Like, they ain't that
they ain't underneath that shit.
They're with you all,
they're with y'all,
they're with y'all,
yeah, for sure.
And he drops of names.
Shit, head, hancho, Murp, Zita Wizard,
motion business p.
Yeah.
218,000, dead and in and dudes.
A, nigga, self-made, beas.
Oh, that's a stuff.
Look, bro, hard-haired.
Look, bro, head, man.
Your own and on, and a...
Are there any, like, differences?
Your area and your area,
are there any differences that could potentially cause
any kind of issues or just, like,
ways in which are different?
No.
The self in the cliff is, like,
nigger, like, dan, they're, like, brothers.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's been that way, you know what I'm saying?
Like, and Cliff never had, like, it was never no problem.
Like, South and Oak Cliff, like, down in the same shit.
Okay.
So it'll never be held, nah, nah.
And for the people who don't know what Oak Cliff is, break it down?
That's a city.
Yeah.
In Dallas?
Yeah.
All right.
It's really big a hill.
Probably the biggest hill than Dallas.
Yeah.
It's not a city.
It's a neighborhood.
Neighborhood, all right, for sure.
Who else is from a city?
I will be a city.
A lot of people.
from there. O'Cliff, look,
Oak Cliff is the biggest
is the biggest
hood in Dallas, you know what I'm saying?
Even people that's not from,
you can be from the niggas from the Soto,
you know what I'm in,
Duncanville, but they'll claim Oak Cliff.
It's the biggest damn there hood in Dallas.
That's why you hear so many people
say they're from Oak Cliff, the bitch, so big.
Highland Hills,
you got Highland Hills,
Seagin Hills, Glendale,
Glendale.
There's so many different hoods.
And it's like in South Dallas, you got
Savedalas.
In South Dallas, it's still different parts of South Dallas.
You know what I'm saying?
You got different parts of Oak Club.
Okay.
There's a mental image that Rainwater put into my head.
I think he was talking about there being like a holiday stroll type thing.
And that if you pulled up to it, you would see almost exclusively like baby
mamas and like women because the city has so much violence.
Harry Highland, 3-10.
That all the dudes don't want to come to get.
Like, it's too dangerous.
for dudes to be going there and shit because like there's just such a high chance of there being
violence and shit when he when he said that that just kind of me up i'm like damn it's that dangerous
that just don't even see like grown-ass men going to this kind of thing like does that sound right
going to what kind of thing to like this holiday stroll or like anything that's like a big
parade type get-together type shit like he just he kind of painted the picture that the city is so
violent i'm saying what is the holiday stroke i ain't never heard of none of holiday strode i might be
making up the name for it.
But like, you know, like a holiday, like just like a sort of like get together,
a bunch of people go walking around in the downtown area.
I said, like a block party type thing.
What are he talking about?
Deep Ellen.
Everybody be everywhere.
He said a holiday strove.
The name, I think Adam probably.
Everybody's laughing at me for saying holiday stroll.
It's probably not what it's called.
They're going to let us know in the comments.
Y'all let us know if you're on a movie.
Holiday strove, that's great.
Y'all said it the same.
They said it the same.
Don't say that he's sending word to nobody.
It's so dangerous, no men.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Is it dangerous as fuck like that?
And is Dallas dangerous?
Yeah, well, I know it is.
I mean, yeah, Dallas dangerous.
Everywhere dangerous, but that is dangerous, but it's like, shit.
Dallas dangerous shit.
What's the spot your name?
It's a sweet.
What's the spot y'all both named at the same time?
Deep in them, down town.
What is that?
It's like a little place where a bunch of bars is.
Middle of here.
Everybody, middle of everybody down town.
Yeah.
Deep in.
What's where all the bars are.
But it's like a-
Would it go down over there?
Everybody down there.
White, black, everybody.
Yeah.
Mm.
Definitely.
You guys recognize those orange sunglasses right there?
That's some famous Dallas-Fort Worth history right there.
Oh, man.
My boy, Tony.
We can't talk about him, though.
He's too.
Tony, I don't know.
Yeah.
He's a legend from out there.
The Virogay Krip.
That's what I was talking.
From the Druski show, he was on a joint.
Yeah, he was on a job.
From the Drewski Show.
No Jumper.
Andrews.
Come on.
Forward.
They walked up on Big X.
Big X had that,
oh, that picture.
They don't even know
nothing about that.
They can't even process that.
Hell know.
That's the New Dallas.
That's the New Dallas.
Yeah, I don't know.
How far Dallas was in?
Like 45 minutes.
Yeah.
Like, that is forward like 45 minutes.
Like at night time, it's really like 25 minutes.
You know what I'm saying?
But see, I don't know.
I never, I only been in a Fort Worth, like three, four times in my whole, like.
It's like a whole separate city.
Like, you don't even know these people that's in Fort Worth.
Like you don't know them, you didn't grow up with them, never seen them.
Like, you don't even know them.
Like a whole other world out there.
A whole other world.
Right.
They got their own hoods and all types of shit.
Yeah, I don't know how to get through that.
I ain't even know.
See, me growing up, thinking Fort Worth just the difference.
I'm not knowing his hood, ghetto.
Like, I ain't know they got their own hood.
They're killing out there doing the same shit we know.
I never knew that.
So I got older.
Word.
So y'all be, what about,
Houston and stuff. What's the difference between Dallas and Houston?
The difference.
The difference. Yeah.
Culturally.
The culture difference is like Houston got more
culturalized, like, spots that you, you know what I'm saying?
It's more culturalized around.
It's more cultural to date.
I'm saying.
Cocturized around our culture, you know what I'm saying?
You go around Houston all day and go to 20 different spots.
20 different spots.
Party all day.
Club and all day.
I don't see.
A lot of money out there.
Then in Houston, the difference with the music and the music, on the music side,
the difference on the music side, the difference on the music.
side like Dallas we never had like a household record label never like we don't have a household record label from daly's you can't name one
Houston has plenty of them that you can name Houston been seeing success in the music game longer a long time
you know what I'm saying definitely but okay so you're saying that in Dallas it's like less accepting of the shit that young people actually want to be around and shit
nah not at all hell not like I caught you like so you know we not not not not
I'm not, I wasn't seeing that.
I was saying, like, the luck, like,
they never had, like, a figure that actually made relevant for music.
Well, who do you look at us, though, G's,
are the people that are actually doing shit, uh,
in Dallas in terms of, like, pushing the culture for it.
Shit, before, shit, Trap Boy, Freddy, yellow Bees, like,
what they had gone, that was the biggest shit to ever come,
you know what I'm saying?
Like, before, I ever rap, these the niggas,
I'm in, I'm in my place of business,
uh, watching on TV and getting motivated to do what I do,
you know what I was looking at their videos and shit,
like this. So, yeah, they have, I got
huge influence on the Dallas culture.
I know y'all see the Hurkuts.
The Hurkuts.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
That's like some old clips shit, like some
Dallas shit. You know what I'm saying?
Daly's like, you used to get the ramp,
the ramp or south side.
Oh, no way.
Get you a ramp or south side with the shade.
Oh, you got the Edgar version.
Hell of you.
Nah, yeah.
Like, Northern California, they got that too.
I don't know who was rocking at first,
but Northern California they all got.
They got them, y'all?
Yeah, but seeing, Dallas,
we got our own culture, you know what I'm saying?
I heard because the car that we ride
Like Houston ride swingers
Like we ride like 24
You know what I'm saying
A box caprice 24
Or
A umpilo 24 floaters
Dubs on that bitch
But if you if you ask a rapper from Houston
About like I notice rapper
Seemingly getting a little bit annoyed
When people do a conversation with them
And they think everything is supposed to be like
Chopped and screw
Drinking Lean
Obviously people still drinking lean
But like
People try to take the culture from 20 years ago
and be like, oh, is shit still exactly like that now?
And then you'll have somebody like Max O'Creme that's like,
maybe, yeah, like, we respect that, but I got, we got our own thing.
Like, we've been doing our own thing for the last 25 years.
So it's like totally, you know, it's like people get stuck on one version of a culture
and they assume that it doesn't change.
Yeah, yeah, everything evolves with time.
Yeah, yeah, I think we're riding around on horse this shit.
No, we don't, but definitely probably some people do.
People from, you know, not from, like, way from other places.
Well, you guys probably think everybody out here dress like EasyE wearing a cargo
with the khaki suits and having red rags or blue rags, like whatever.
Like the version of gangbanger.
But people do that out here too.
They'd be like, oh, I can't believe.
I just saw a blood in a crib getting along.
It's like, that's old.
This shit has changed a lot.
It's much more advanced than that.
How often do you all like Conachallie and shit?
Shit, a lot.
I was just out around the first.
Oh, where?
So, what we're doing about a BETT weekend?
Yeah, BATO one.
You come out of her into music.
I missed.
I missed it.
We went after part and shit
fucking around the studio.
How y'all be feeling
about like the checking in shit?
You know, niggas.
You got checking in shit?
You know, niggas?
You got the thing in Dallas?
Yeah, nah.
Nah, yeah, nah.
That's checking in and shit.
So make believe, that shit's lame to me.
I don't know about no chicken.
To me, that shit is lame.
It's like little kids shit.
I'm a grown man.
I'm not, I'm not,
a nigga ain't got a chicken in with me
and I'm not checking in with nobody.
I've been coming to L.A.
for years.
I haven't, you know what I'm doing.
I'm doing what I'm doing.
Hand in my mind
In my own lane
Yeah
Well vice versatile though
Like in Dallas though
It ain't like
Knicks come out there
They got a check in
Nah
Like usually
That check in
Shit to me
It's lame
Like that shit lame
Like that shit lame
Like that shit
Like that shit little kid shit
Like that shit lame
A bit
Nah I feel it
It definitely get tricky
But if I see a rapper
From out of town
And they want to come
To California
And they want to go to
Compton
They want to go to the swap meet
They want to go to the club
All the gang members are at
I'm like
You should check in
That's different
You should not be out of
I always say check in, you should have a relationship with somebody.
They ain't just dumb to just.
Yeah, not, not like that.
Or you have your people.
It's anywhere.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm not going to another night wood or in my front of this.
Drive a little of a little bit.
I don't even know these things.
Yeah.
I just left the hood.
I just feel it.
I just got a plan to go back to another nigga.
To another nigga right.
I feel it.
But like five years ago, I might have said, like, you could go, you could go do all the Hollywood shit,
do the tourist shit.
You're going to be good.
But.
Nowadays, they be taking people's shit.
So, like, even in the tourist, the ass area.
So you've got to be ready for that.
Everywhere in the world.
But there's more out here.
It's not just everywhere in the world.
Like, because you can walk around at some places in Dallas,
nigger, and for show 100% you're straight.
Depending on the part you're in.
At here, like, all the tourist shit, like,
out of here, you got to keep your head on the trip.
A lot of wild shit started happening during the pandemic
where, like, you leave the club, you think it's all good,
and they're going to follow your ass home
and get you right outside your crew or your Airbnb or whatever.
shot in the head I hear leaving one of the fights I hear you're going in the hotel
a nigger 4-5 niggins ran up on him he shot beck and he shot him in the head
damn that's terrible I'm trying like jury on this shit hey giron yeah it's one of us
the way you go though it's just a it's not gonna you know LA cold or it's just everywhere you
just got to just move right especially if you like right now you're walking like this
you don't got nothing to worry about but if you walk around like this and shit like this
is you got assets you got to move right like it's just anywhere we're not
no matter what. Look at the president. Look at Trump.
Trump.
You're right. You're just everything. You just got to know how to move in general.
You guys all feeling a little bit better about Trump now that he narrowly avoided death like that.
I feel like the streets are really with him after that.
I don't know.
What's your thoughts? You fucking with him?
I ain't really got no opinion on Trump right now.
That's crazy. A lot of motherfuckers, they, a lot of people seem like they're rocking with it.
But then some people thought it was fake.
I've lost a lot of respect for a lot of people
who've been saying that they think it was fake
because it makes no sense.
That ain't nothing that I don't want to fake.
I'm not from a fake nobody's shooting at me.
Exactly, right.
Here's this great thing I'm going to fake.
I'm going to get hit.
I'm going to narrowly avoid a bullet hitting my brain
and then one of my supporters right behind me
is going to die.
What a great prank.
Yeah, come on.
You can't prank something like that.
And you shoot a bullet from a long range.
It's like you don't know if it's going to hit here or here.
We live in the way in 2024.
People would do face shit like that for real of them.
This isn't a world where people would do something like that.
But a president shouldn't be doing that shit like that.
Somebody would do something like that.
But that specifically, I don't know, man.
He shouldn't be the president.
He just got a civilian kid for a prank.
Yeah, right?
He died, shielding his family from the bullets.
I mean, that's just not really something.
I don't know.
Track, I got a question.
What's going on with the Melly trial?
There was the mistrial.
And then now they're going to run it back,
starting soon? No, it's the
I think they announced the date. What was it?
September 10th of
2025. Okay. Yeah, so they're going to just start
to getting a jury, pick the jury and go to trial.
Any updates? Anything you can tell us about what's
going on? It's really been on a pause
because they're going to the Supreme Court
to like basically you got a prosecution that's
filing motions and then you've got
the defense that's denying motion. So
you got to have something like a referee
that says, okay, we're going to do this
motion, we're not going to do this motion, we're going to do this.
So they're just waiting on the Supreme Court.
So it haven't been anything, nothing new.
It's just been the same type of shit.
It's just a slow process.
It's real slow.
Yeah, I mean, we were happy when they got the mistrial
until we realized that was going to mean
that he had to do this whole thing over again.
That's what's crazy, though,
because, like, normally that don't happen.
Like, sometimes, you know what I'm saying?
They do let you go, or, but, you know,
it's up to the state.
So, but that was crazy.
Yeah, I expected, like,
they probably give them a bond this time, right?
And they still?
And that's the thing.
They didn't even give them a bond.
Right.
It's just all, but look at the situation, though.
Like, they're not just doing that.
Look at the actual, they're doing it, like, inhuman shit.
Like, they're not, like, giving him phone calls.
He can't, he's walking around with a guard 24-7.
They can't talk to him, you know what I'm saying?
Or give him eye contact.
It's on some, some, tactic shit, you feel, me?
Just trying to break you down.
Because you just had a mistrial.
Yeah.
So now what you go, you got to try to do something extra hard
to try to make the situation even hard on him.
Because he's just, now he got, like, all the motivation in the world.
You know what I'm saying?
Think about it.
Like, you just went, you took the state.
the trial and you got a mistrial like
so what does that tell you?
Yeah. Like so now they're trying to just
with him mentally type of shit.
That's right.
I don't think y'all speak like one last time you talked to him
I speak to him like but not like
through him like because he only
could talk to his lawyer like to his
they don't give him no outside communication
but his one lawyer
but then you know his lawyer like have other lawyers
and shit like that but if you like a regular person
like without like you can't
like you got to have some type of like
law.
I heard they have him under such strict
supervision that even the guard
who's in charge of watching over his cell
isn't allowed to speak to him.
Yeah, I just said that.
Oh, you did?
Yeah, they can't speak to him at all.
Like, nobody...
He ain't talked to no. He ain't talked to...
No, he haven't talked to...
No, not here.
They just started about four months ago.
Oh, four months?
Which that makes you feel like, oh, they're really trying to, like,
torture the...
Yeah, so you can't talk. Like, he haven't had
like, no human conversations
for four months.
his lawyers.
Not a guard, not the inmate, nothing.
They come out of solitary confinement
a different person.
Of course.
So, that's, right, that's some fucked up shit.
But, you know, at the end of the day,
God ain't going to put you to nothing
you can't overcome.
Ain't seen anything about this shit?
You'll go and sign it.
You can't do nothing but just look at it.
You ain't got nobody for a phone.
Especially thinking, like, I was in the studio
with him in 2017.
That's almost eight years ago.
I mean, he's been locked up going on six years.
Crazy.
But, you know, he's going to be all right, though.
He's strong.
You know what I'm saying?
He understands, like, anything he's going through, like,
it ain't going to be bigger than him when he come home,
like, what he's going to be able to do.
So that's his motivation.
Plus, I just went to trial and it was a mistrial.
So it's like, you know what I'm saying?
That alone is, like, some type of, like, okay, yeah,
like next time I'm coming home.
I was just with a B-Slam in New York.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, like a pop-up.
What's your relationship with him at this point?
Beechstein still slime.
Like he signed on Remain Charlotte and the Y&W.
We're working on singles and project.
We were just on tour with Autumn.
Oh, really?
You're on that whole tour with him?
Yeah, he's slimmed my little brother.
Like, he's 16.
You know, he just turned 17.
He just turned 17.
That's crazy.
I interviewed him when he turned 12, I think.
Yeah, but he's funny as back then, too.
Yeah, he got to drop a mixtape in August,
like the last month of August.
We were working on singles now.
He just got off the tour.
or you're just working and shit like that.
He's the first person I ever heard say that something was goaded.
Who?
Be slant.
What do you mean?
Goaded?
Like, King Bon, I beat the body I'm goaded, but he was using it in like a Fortnite sense.
Oh, yeah.
Like if you're the goat, but like for some reason you're goaded and I heard him said that and it was very confusing to me at first.
No, he, for sure, he's the baby goat.
Yeah.
You still all, you used to manage DQ in him or no?
Yeah, I mean, like, it's not.
So it's just the same thing like how, um,
You know, we're doing with, like, Montana and stuff like that.
They're not signed to me.
Like, Get Back Gang was Vaughn label.
And me and him's, like, I do, I got partners a lot, right what I'm saying?
So me and Vaughn's partners on Get Back Game.
Me and Mali's partners on Y&W.
Yeah.
You feel I mean?
So, stuff like that.
So they're, like, basically signed to Get Back Gang, which is King Vaughn,
but I'm an owner with Get Back Gang with Vaughn.
And who's on Get Back Gang right now currently?
DQ, Boss Top, Mooop,
Duke
Yeah
And all
Boss hostel that locked up
Right?
Yeah everybody locked up
But DQ
That I just mentioned
Dude locked up
Everybody locked up
Yeah
I missed the Duke being locked up
Yeah
So we found out
Something interesting
Recently though
Is that Vaughn never
Actually signed a Dirk
I mean
All right
So that story
Kind of got
Took in all over the place
When I say
He never signed a Dirt
Like
That's being said
It's like
Dirk wasn't on some shit
Like yo bro
You gotta sign this
Right here right now
Or we ain't
doing business. It wasn't on some lame shit
like that. It was like, bro, you my brother, like,
do what you got to do. You don't got to sign to me
directly. But
as far as, like, we
agree mutually, like, of course
he's involved with Vaughn. Like, he gets
his share, he gets his royalties and shit
like that. So Dirk makes money of
Vaughn. But no, he wasn't physically
signed to him. But that's
show you how honorable this shit is. It's like,
he still stood on business. Even after he
passed away, we're all still on business.
It just feels like if he were to begin
royalty checks that he would
kind of have to be signed to Derek otherwise?
No, you assign your royalties
to wherever you want to go. Like you
if I give your LOD to get
10% of whatever things, that's on you.
Okay. Yeah, it's your royalties.
All right. Right. But he was never signed
physically, no, but he's OTF
though. He's got the shit tattered on his body.
Like, you only get more signed in some shit as
brotherhood, bro. Right. Like a paper
don't make you sign in nobody.
It's loyalty and, like, would you stand for it?
But the paper could be used to, like, force you
hand over money if you ended up in a situation where you didn't want to be paying the person
but we never got to that point and we still haven't got to that point yeah dirk is fine and he's
always going to be good with wrong business okay with family like all that shit is just one
you're still looking at chicago artists or is that something you're still interested in yeah i just
signed an artist out there called pre de lea okay yeah she raw too and i also worked with um
law t hf low law okay shallow law follow yeah no it's hard uh i'm always tapped in to chicago
though. Yeah, you'd be tapping in with a street shirt
way early before even, you know what I'm saying, get to where
it's at. Any more Bond songs in the cut?
Like, can we expect any more albums?
Yeah, he got a Get Back Gang album dropping
this year with
his artist. And also his
brother now and his sister, his blood brother and sister,
they're signing to Get Back Game.
Because since Vaughn passed away, me
and I gave his mom all the ownership
that Vaughn owned, me and his mom, like,
bust it down. Like, we do that together.
So Caleb E's going to get back?
game? But his other sister's Sky. Oh, for sure. Yeah. I mean, if Kelliby's a conversation, that's family.
Nah, yeah, he had a, yeah, his, Keller B's on his dad's side, and then he had a sister named
Sky on the mom's side. And she's signing together again, him and his little brother. And I was
seeing y'all talk about y'all, y'all got a clap tape on the way of your album.
Yeah, 7402.
And that's the name of it? Yeah.
Yeah, 7402, yeah. What's a break that name down like?
7100, that's his name. My side, his side.
42 is my neighborhood.
I'm saying.
Neighborhood in South Dallas.
So where the 42 come from?
4-2 because in the beginning, like before I was even born, I think.
Yeah, before I was even born, and seeing, I mean, in South Dallas, it's another neighborhood called 44, I'm saying.
It used to be like Oakland boys and four-folk, four-folk, like Oakland boys.
But then we split apart and became four-two.
I don't accept it.
I'm sorry.
So now you got the collab EP coming in, 742.
How much are y'all finished with it?
It's done.
It's all completely done.
Yeah, it's done.
It's been off.
It's been off.
Any features on there?
Just y'all, too?
Back to back on there.
All right.
And y'all got a date for it?
August, second.
All right, so y'all are going to drop.
I ain't going to lie.
I told them to say it on this interview so that way.
So y'all got to have a date to stick still.
All right, so all you second, we can expect it.
It's been our fault, though, because, like, they've been building.
up by themselves so big.
We're just trying to keep everything
right and do it everything so proper.
But man, this shit bent down.
We're just going to drop it the right way still, but
we're going to overthink it.
Because we want this shit to be like a movie, because to me
they're like movies every day.
But the streets need that shit for real. So we're going to drop it
like a second. I had people on here recently
trying to convince me that drill is dead
and the street music is just like not
in demand like it used to be.
What is drill got to do with street music?
I don't make drill.
I mean, drill is like a variation of like
street music. I'm not saying that you will exclusively work
with those kind of artists, but do you feel like you've seen
like the amount of attention
that that kind of music gets decreasing? I'm kind of
confused on the question, though, because you can't say
drill is street, like, street music
is street music is
Boosey, is Park, is
you know what I'm saying, Rave, is
like Montana is in there, like
that's street music. Drill is just
a genre in street music
that's literally its own genre.
That's the sample beats,
body smoke, like that's drill.
So your question kind of put both of them together.
But if you say drill is dead, I feel like people's kind of played,
is overplayed, like it's played out when it comes to,
they're talking about like smoke and killing.
And maybe there's a couple artists that's still doing it.
You know, you can never take that away.
Yeah.
But as far as street music, that's how street music could ever be dead.
Like street music is soul.
Right.
His motivation is like, that's street music.
Right.
So that's two different things.
I feel like the formula of like, oh, I'm going to get on a train.
and I'm just going to diss the guy who died
on the other side of town.
That doesn't demand attention the way
that they used to. The people have kind of smartened up
and they're just like not as fascinated by.
I also feel like somebody like
Vaughn was like the climax
of all that shit. Like after him
it's just kind of like who's going to do that?
It's not a music better. It's not even because
in the music is what's coming with the music.
They're seeing your favorite artist
getting killed and dying. So it's like
not people like, y'all don't want to keep
losing my favorite artists too.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, these regular people, the certain people,
but this is like who they can live and breathe to see.
So they're tired of that type of shit where they're seeing that genre.
I'm sure you're tired of because you dealt with so many people that you've signed
or tried to work with losing their lives or getting locked up early on.
Does that ever make you want to work with R&B artists and artists that are living less dangerous lifestyles?
I don't think, like, that's what I, like, the way you said it,
that's not how I look at it because.
I'm not like, it's not the genre that's making these artists or that these things happen.
It's real life scenarios that they just happen to not adjust to yet.
Because you still got like a dough or Montana that's straight out of this shit where they only been doing this for what?
Six, seven months, you got cameras in their face, you got money, you got jewelry, you got.
So it's like you have to learn how to adjust when you get to that level.
But am I done working with my type of people?
No, like, I can't be done working with artists.
like that like bro that's that's me that's us like that don't make no sense right i'm not like a katy perry
or so that don't make sense like i'm gonna i work with people that genuinely i like that can make
sense that shows like you know i'm saying the same passion the same driver i got so not saying the
music can be a certain way but why would i stop working with my type of people because of bad
incidents like yeah but do i move better yeah i got my like yeah bulletproof trucks five guards and
you know real shit yeah for sure
That's coming from adapting and learning business.
Yeah, and open a block and a bulletproof SUV.
Yeah, I'm in a bulletproof like nine times out of ten.
Oh, the BP?
Yeah.
And he broke down how they just drove it from Florida to or they like delivered to Chicago.
But I got to deliver.
Yeah, because it's so expensive to rent the shit in Chicago that it's like you might as well
just ship that shit there from Florida.
But I don't like that though.
Like, I'm not bragging on it.
That's terrible that I got to like invest that much type of structure like when we move or when I move
my people's move, but that's the reality of it, though.
You have to do that, though.
Look at your...
Stop, fuck us. What happened to Trump?
You know what I think? He got a whole secret service
around it. Right, so
why y'all look at, like... No rapper got that much security.
This is real life shit that happens to anybody.
So you just got to know how to move
when you get into that type of lifestyle.
How much does it cost to get a BP truck?
I paid like...
I paid like $180 for mines, because I got it
I got it like for like what,
125 and then I paid 60
to get it like bulletproof
to get it armed up.
I was around to LA rapper
who's very gang related,
et cetera the other day and like
he had his car and I did think to myself
for a second like oh I'm surprised
he's just driving around by himself
and then I like tap my hand against the car by accident
and felt that it felt completely different
because it's bulletproof and I'm like
oh that's why he's chilling just driving around
like it's all good because he got this shit right.
I mean like honestly I'm very big on safety though
like even when like they move
whoever move. I'm very big on safety and not just because of the music or because of the
reputation because like these people I care for like I like hanging with that just genuinely
like you right like oh wait like from them doing music those are real people that I want to grow
with and build with and turn 67 and we buying each other for those roads voices and shit so
my goal is to make sure we move in the right way to get to there because yeah I'm not
fucked up from the incidents but I am fucked up on how much shit could happen like if you don't
move the right way. You can't know what? So. Yeah. I don't know. I'll feel that. So there's been that many
incidents, though, you feel like behind the scenes that niggas might not even know. I mean,
not even just from, like, music. Like, bro, I'm from, like, you know what I'm saying? They come
from the projects, same shit. Like, moving trees, doing what we got to do. So it's like,
I already came from that type of environment. But it's just to show, like, money don't change
things from happening. You just got to be better at moving around how you're supposed to move.
because I don't think it's a music thing.
I think it's a life thing.
Wow.
So that's how I look at it.
Like, it's not, like, even athletes,
they're walking around the right way, right?
You got muffled.
Like, if you're going to be a public figure
and move around, like, with jewelry or whatever,
even if you're not moving with jewelry.
Right.
Like, if people know you and you could attract a magnitude of the people,
you have to move accordingly.
That's just common sense.
But there's a big difference between somebody
who's famous and rich and people
might kill him to get his jewelry
versus people where like
people actively want to assassinate them
and are willing to wait.
Everything got to wait to just take care of business.
That's just like a different level of security
that's needed, you know?
But are you saying for music
or are you just saying in general?
Because there's people like that.
I'm just saying rappers, a lot of rappers,
are in like a very different position
security-wise than a lot of athletes and shit
because the athletes just don't have,
like people might want to get them for their jewelry,
but they don't have.
want to get them because they dissed somebody's
dead cousin in a saw on the other day.
But it's nine times out of ten an instant it occurred because
of like jewelry and stuff like that.
It's never nobody going to risk their life
because they really hate somebody.
Like, it got to be something to trigger somebody.
I'll say that's true trick. You think so?
I think so, I mean, you got to be putting that energy out there in the air then.
But do you tell them, hey,
let's not put that attention.
But they don't. They know that by themselves.
That's why that movement is.
Yeah, their whole movement is, you know.
That's got to be like an active choice, right?
Like you don't want to court that kind of attention.
We're trying to win.
Everybody come together and win.
Get some money.
It's kind of push positivity, you know what I'm saying?
We're trying to change the narrative of the world.
We're trying to change the world.
You know what I'm saying?
Like we're trying to do something different.
You know what I'm saying?
Like we don't want to, that's not the way we want to live.
That ain't the way to live.
That ain't the way we want to live.
We want to live a big house and rose rushes.
Trying to get some money.
I'm saying.
Big crib by the water, the rose and shit.
You know what I'm saying?
We ain't trying to live like that.
We want to live luxuries and lavish, you know what I'm saying?
But let's say the next pop and rapper coming out of Dallas decides it's a good idea to take aim at y'all and their music.
You're going to just leave it?
You don't get no response.
You're doing from the rap beef?
That's right.
That's what most people do.
We're not into that.
Most people I ain't trying to turn down that opportunity.
We're buying it too hard.
You don't get no response from us.
I just wake up with Kathy hunters every day.
I know I don't got no problem with you in real life.
It's crazy.
What shot?
thought about Charleston White in his era
that he's having right now.
He's doing good as a business man.
He's doing great.
It feels like he turned the corner where people
aren't as negative towards him
and people are kind of disappreciative of his commentary.
See, me, honestly, at first
I didn't know that he was acting, you know what I'm saying?
But now that I see that he's acting
and he's doing great, you know what I'm saying?
He's entertaining people.
It's entertaining, you know what I'm saying?
He's making his money.
Like, I cannot knock that.
Right.
But I mean, some of the shit he says that a lot of people feel like it goes over the line in terms of just being disrespectful.
You got to understand that I boil down to be entertaining.
He's a comedian.
It ain't got nothing to do with me, what he's saying, truthfully.
Yeah.
He entertained.
You're entertaining.
How do you feel when you see him say shit like death to King Vaughn and all GDs and BDs and shit like that?
It's entertainment, but then he still...
What did that have to, like, anything he said, what did that, how did that affect me, physically, mentally, emotionally, or financially?
it did nothing to me like it didn't do anything so it's like that's what they're saying
like you got to understand what's the bigger picture what i'm gonna do going to go on the internet
be like yo and then this is gonna go viral it's gonna be comp like it's not that serious
right right now if it affects the money and the business then yeah but it's like it didn't
do nothing right right 10 times out of 10 them says really don't do anything you might have the
level head to feel that way though it's definitely people that don't feel that way but everyone
should feel that yeah right where to be a better where to be a better place
Facts.
So, okay, in terms of 100K, who do we have here today and who are you looking at in terms
of like the top people on the roster of this one?
Because I remember you having like images come out of like 30 different Florida artists.
Bro, why you keep saying Florida?
They all was not from Florida.
No, why are you not?
I was just thinking you as the Florida guy.
I mean, bro, I'm from Florida.
I got a strong presence in Florida, yes, but no, my brand always been outside of Florida.
I feel me?
But as far as right now, though, I'm super excited about, you know what I'm saying?
Montana and, though, on just, like, working and just building the New Dallas movement,
just being excited to be part of that, like, for real.
Jordan going crazy.
Jordan Latunji.
He got the record called Kalani, right?
I'm super, super excited by him because he's, like, not the genre that you would see.
But he got that one song going absolutely insane.
That's got to be kind of different for you to have an artist who's making that kind of music.
No, it is.
Like, I was telling, who I was telling that?
Damn, I was just telling somebody that earlier.
Like, he just did an interview.
I was just telling you that.
He just did like an interview or like a radio run with every station.
Like he was at pop, he was an R&B.
He was in, like, damn.
Like, usually if I got an artist doing a run, he'll be a straight hip hop circuit.
And two days he had to run through pop, R&B, and hip hop.
So I'm like, oh, that's fire.
He was working with him before that song came out?
Or how did you discover him?
So one of my executives that works with me, you know what I'm saying?
Walter
like he found him
and brought him to my attention
and then we just did what we had to do
and just to bring him in.
This is before like Kalani.
Kalani just exploded
and then
we just continuing the steps
just like our Montana
like my executive Paul right here
he brought Zillionaire and Montana
like you know like my team do a good job
of like bringing things to my attention
and just things like that too
and what is exciting
like Montana like no cap like
instantly
I was probably going to DM him
of every Instagram I have.
Yeah.
What I told you.
He's going to DM me out pages.
He's like, what the fuck?
Like, I'm like, it's four, five people just keep them, man.
What's going to be on?
Trying to get to him.
Yeah, because, bro, he played this.
I'm like, what?
This niggas go star.
I'm like, yo, he'll star.
So what did you hear from him that made you like, oh, yeah, this is.
This shit going to sound like I'm cap, but I'm not, bro.
I'm really keeping it a $100,000 like I'm dead ass.
He played one song.
Like, it was one meeting.
Like, bro, usually you got to do repeated shit, like, to get my attention.
Like, even with, like, they bring artists all the time.
Like, I got a whole bunch of people bringing artists.
So he played, I played Montana one time of freestyle.
And I was like, what the fuck?
I feel this shit in my soul, dealing on every page.
I was going to blitz him all day.
I was probably going to take a plane to Dallas and find his ass.
And what freestyle was it?
The one to go.
The one to go.
Free bands.
Free bands.
Oh, my God.
Bro, I went crazy.
I ain't going to lie.
I went crazy.
You sold it in that minute.
That one time.
Bro, like, whatever he wanted to do,
I was ready to do it on something business wise.
Because when they came through,
their presentation was amazing.
Because I work with so much artists that it's like,
you know, and it's like no disrespects on the artists,
but sometimes you've got to put so much in,
financially, business.
Like, you just got to do over, like,
lower than the artist to go.
The way he came, the way those coming,
all you got to do is just let them do them and just do you.
Oh, shit, I already going to go.
So, right?
So, like, if they could naturally do
them 100% going great and I come and do what I do just add to it it's going to explode bro so I'm super
excited about about that and then um uh prettyly out of Chicago I signed like two three out of
Florida though I know you want to bring Florida up so I got um ATM for life ATM Tanner
ATM 10na at Orlando he going crazy and me and um me and sniper game is doing one too um jiff old
stand he actually signed with like remain solid like Y&W yeah and uh sniper game
So Kodak, he's on Kodak album, joint album.
He had the crash out record.
So, you know what I got him?
I'm pretty excited about him too.
And then, you know, FCG Heem, you know what I'm saying?
Like everybody else that's on the roster for real.
Yeah, all right.
You and Kodak's still a lot of thing because I see him at the show the other day.
Yeah, it's my boy.
How often y'all?
I mean, he's busy.
I'm busy, but whenever we're together, it's like, you know, it's love.
Because, you know, at the end of the day, I'm trying to build a hundred million dollar empire.
I'm trying to go down as one of the best executives or, you know, at this shit.
So it's cool.
like I hang with whatever but like I'm trying to go and get it bro.
How was it?
Because I seen recently, I guess you was with Birdman and Slim.
Yeah.
How was it being around them?
Was that the first time meeting them?
Yeah, that was my first time meeting them.
Honestly, like that's because, so I, you know, I did my partnership with 300.
So, you know, shout out to Celine, Kevin Lise, Raina, everybody out there.
So I got my remain-sided label with them.
It was for two years, but when I signed Jordan and when Montana linked up on the partnership,
like they extended like the you know the option so i'm with them for another two three years
yeah so you know what i'm saying like really they on some shit like yo you need to stop
hopping out to these type of things like yo go you know like come to these events come to
these things like we're gonna make sure you know where they are we're gonna you always good on the
list and everybody genuinely want to like with you so you know i'm like trying to i'm 33 bro like
i ain't trying to be on a block every day chenny with the young niggas doing their thing but like
bro, I ain't, I ain't them too.
You know what I'm saying?
I ain't an OG, but I'm now, I'm 33, so I'm going to start going to different crowds
and start doing my thing too, like on some different shit.
But I'm still going to pop out icy, though.
You know, I'm coming.
You know what I'm saying?
But, yeah, like, I'm just trying to be more involved in the executive life, too, being around
everybody doing their thing, too, you know.
See, I'm trying to get more on your lifestyle.
I'm trying to, like, start working with artists more, making music, shit like that.
You could do it.
I feel like I've seen the ceiling of, like, doing interviews.
I've just kind of like reached the highest heights
of doing interviews to a certain extent
So like part of me wants to like
Involve myself in the industry in a different way
And really find some artists and shit
If you don't if you're down to do that
Like I'll jump in with you with a act that you like
Not the whole thing
But if you got somebody you fuck with
We'll do it together
And we'll do it hand by hand
Tell if he trod him or not
No he's serious
If I'm gonna troll you're gonna know
I got a lot of trolling in me
No I'm serious
No, serious
I'm down to doing with you too bro
Like Rimo be sending me shit too
Like you know what I'm saying
You think we could turn Remo into a top rapper?
If you got the bars.
A&R.
Put a grill on them.
You got to get everybody killer.
Damn, you order to go out like that?
I'm saying, we got to really make him pop.
Shit.
No.
Back to the drawing board.
Yeah, but as an executive, though.
Oh, please on earth the Remo raps.
Holy shit.
It's out there.
If you find it, you find it.
Oh, so you, wait, so you was an artist first.
Before any of this, I used to rap, and then I quit rapping, and I was, like, song writing.
Oh, that's fine.
He had a skinny white boy with face tattoos that he was trying to A&R.
He lived out here now.
I thought you're talking about the other.
The white boy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm managing him and then I just ended up on.
I mean, hey, look, bro, listen, it takes, hey, what's the difference from Birdman, me,
yo, Godi, what's the difference from any of us and you?
Had a couple of hits.
That's it.
A couple of the shots were.
Right.
You try to sign 100 artists and three of them work out.
I'm telling you, the first time I met this man, but I was giving him a damn
sniper game t-shirt.
And then the next time you see him is this.
The next.
So it's like, what's the difference with you?
Do it.
Stay down to you.
Come up.
I was just doing some other shit.
I'm going to interview.
Full time?
What were you doing exactly?
Shit.
Being a young black entrepreneur.
I feel that.
Yeah.
John Mike away from me and my family, man.
Respect.
I think I dropped the collab albums and shit.
Any solo projects y'all got in the cut?
I know that's coming.
Yeah, it's lying on the way.
Everything.
A lot of shit on the way.
New calls.
New chain.
New chain.
New houses.
New houses.
New businesses.
New Dallas.
New business.
New business.
New boppers.
Type shit like that.
We ain't worried about the box.
I heard type of shit no more.
Who y'all put on the Mount Rushmore of Texas rap?
Texas rap.
Texas rap.
If you got four people?
It's hard because it, bro, it's hard because, like, with the Texas rap shit, like, I told them my, my, my, my, my, my, my pops was used to do music.
So since a kid, like, I've been into the Texas courts.
You know what I'm saying?
Like it's like
Different generations
You know where these people
Was the ghosts of this generation
They were the ghosts
It'll be hard
I couldn't even
But if you just had to give me some names
All the time
Oh you gotta go
For Texas
Charles Walker
Off the real
You gotta go Mo 3
Off the real
Just being real
You gotta go Mo 3
That's what I took
Yours might be different from his
You got to go Mo 3
Mo 3
Give me three more
Pau
Let's see damn
For me, I go
Mo. DJ Screw.
Trap.
Trowboy Freddy.
Fucking me.
Sauce.
Walker.
Sauce for show.
All right.
Sauce Walker.
Pimp seat.
And Pimpsi.
And Pimpsi.
Yeah.
Your list sound like his list?
Oh, you got a different name?
He's probably different than mine.
Who on your list?
I'm trying to see who it would be different.
That's for the real dope.
Yeah.
What the road from?
See what I'm saying?
Where the f-f-old?
You can say big took, shit.
Big tug.
What's he row?
Zero.
It's so many people.
Slim thug.
Slim thug.
It's so many you can go like it's crazy.
DJ's crew.
Agent doll.
Agent or.
Why are you looking at me about that?
Jay Prince.
He said, he just stared me in the eyes.
He's a little.
Not a little troll.
A little bit.
I agree.
I grew up with Asian dogs, like, as a kid.
So I got, like, I got, like, mad love for Asian dogs to see us.
Like, I came from the same shit she did, you know what I'm saying?
I seen her do what she do.
And it's, like, inspirational motivation.
Somebody come from the same place.
So I got a different level of respect for her because I seen her from when I was a little kid
and she put the grind in, you know, when she first started her in Cuban, and they really made it, you know what I'm saying?
So, like I say, I salute her, and I got a whole different type of respect and love for her.
she really did. You know what I'm saying?
Come from, we come from.
That's real.
No, I fuck with her too. I've seen her a couple months ago.
She's dope.
And she's been killing it for a long time.
Realistically, her music, a lot better than most of the girls out here.
Facts.
Facts.
All right, anything else we need to know about?
Project on the way.
New Dallas, on top of the world.
Up Nitch.
Montana, Selimony.
Zee and her dope.
742, August.
Sevent.
Sevent.
The type on the white, man.
Good show.
Feet the street.
man everybody rocking with y'all look like you know what I'm saying so if y'all not tapped in
everybody gonna be in tune after this one okay yes sir track what's the word you're keeping your eye
on the on the ball or are you uh you chilling a little too hard are you 100% hustle mode
i ain't never chill bro i don't chill i ain't never chillin like i ain't never chilling like i'm
trying to be one of the best of this shit you know what I'm trying to be like lebron and what he does
Kobe Jordan so I got to keep the shit going
Try to keep building.
Thanks.
Let's go.
That way.
Appreciate y'all for coming through.
I can tell you guys are all going to blow this year.
It's going to be crazy.
Let's get it.
Thank you, Rimo.
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