No Jumper - 1090 Jake on 03 Greedo Snitch Allegations, Wack100 Beef, Rich Homie Quan Telling & More

Episode Date: August 8, 2023

1090 Jake talks about his rise on Youtube, why he chose this lane, rappers who made headlines for allegedly snitching, and more. ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR... NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Jumper, coolest podcast on the world, and you know that we back with my favorite white boy. Yes, sir. You know we're raw. He's a f***ed boy. 10-90, Jake. How you doing, man? I'm good, bro, how you doing? Excellent.
Starting point is 00:00:13 Can't complain? Actually, I'm feeling kind of shit, but I'm ready to, like, turn it on for the duration of this interview and use up all my energy for the day. We got to turn up. Yeah, we got to turn up. I slept like 12 hours last night, so hopefully that'll have me powered up. I didn't sleep at all, bro. Yeah, because my friend that I grew up around. I sent me a selfie with you in the airport.
Starting point is 00:00:32 I'm like, oh, shit. He flew out last night. Yeah, well, that was, that's when I flew over to New York. Then I was in Brooklyn, getting drunk. Then I ended up in the projects in Harlem. And then, yeah, got on the plane. Wait, you flew to New York and just. From Boston to New York.
Starting point is 00:00:49 And just turned up all night? The whole night. And then, I didn't sleep until I got on the plane. What are you doing in New York? You got connections out there? Yeah. Really? New York all the time.
Starting point is 00:00:57 But you were in Brooklyn and Harlem? Yeah. That's a trek. Who are you hanging out without that? I can tell you all that. We're gonna f***ing some situations I got going on. Situations, wow, that's fascinated. I wish I had some street connections like that.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Sounds fun. This thing, I almost feel like it's a, okay, yeah, that's better. I almost feel like blowing into the microphone. It was kinda weird. Our AC is out today, by the way, also. I feel it. Yeah, I'm definitely feeling it too.
Starting point is 00:01:23 It's kind of weird. Normally it's like too cold in here. Today it's like a little too hot. We in here. So, Okay. I figure we'll start off light. And I'll just ask you about, you took like a multi-month break from the YouTube streets at one point to build out your new studio and everything. How was that?
Starting point is 00:01:41 And how was it a weird feeling to have to kind of take that time off? No, it wasn't weird. I enjoyed the break too much. Really? So in the middle of setting everything up, I kind of just fell off. And was like, you know what? I kind of enjoy because the money was still there. and I'm just not doing shit.
Starting point is 00:02:02 You know what I mean? And what it did is it put me on a decline to where I started to see the numbers going on because I'm not putting out of anything. So, you know, obviously that affects the money. You still make a little bit on YouTube from your back catalog. You make it something that you're comfortable with, but you're not, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:02:18 And I just got comfortable not doing nothing. But you had years where you were grinding out like a video a day or every other day or whatever. I was going crazy, bro, to the point that I wasn't doing anything else. Yeah. Like it was just non-stop videos. Like I wake up 12 hours on one video, go to sleep, wake up, repeat, and the money was going crazy.
Starting point is 00:02:38 And you do everything, you edit too, right? I do all my own. I don't have anyone that does anything for me. Right. Furnails, editing, all that is mine. So I mean, I could probably get somebody and it'll be a lot better, but I've done everything and I like how I do it. I'm very like specifically.
Starting point is 00:02:52 So I do it all. And when I had that break period, I just enjoyed it. But there was also in the back of my mind, I'm like, all right, when I come back, is everything's still going to be the same? You know what I mean? If I drop a video, is it still going to hit the same? And when it did, I got that feeling of damn, people really rocking with me and were waiting on me.
Starting point is 00:03:10 You know what I mean? But you didn't feel like you lost any of the fan base? When you came back, you felt like they were excited for it? Yeah, well, they were. I mean, that's what it showed when the video started going crazy. Because, of course, you get in the DMs like, oh, you fell off, you this and that. But those are just the haters that always hate anyways.
Starting point is 00:03:26 But that's a weird feeling to know that there are people who are really, like, you are a part. of their day. No, that's, that's, that's the humbling experience of it. That's the, that's what makes me want to do more. It's knowing that there's people waiting on me supporting me. Because the whole time I'm not on YouTube, I'm still in real life. So I'm running into people telling me like, yo, bro, we're waiting on this and that, we're rocking with you, whatever. It just makes you want to, you know what I mean? People really, you. Because Vlad has been off YouTube for like a week now, maybe a week and a half because his monetization got messed up and he hasn't been uploading anything and that really
Starting point is 00:04:01 made me realize like oh i watch like 20 to 30 minutes of vlad's clips every single day and it actually feels like there's like a hole in my entertainment for the day when he's not publishing content which i haven't had to feel like that because for the last however many years i've been watching this channel like seven eight years i have never had to be without vlad's content right yeah it's crazy but so okay you're you're outside though because i feel like for a while you were you were in the crib just grinding out videos but are you taking that break did that reconnect you with being able to like live your actual life and and have more real life experiences no yeah for sure because when I first started off especially when the money was hitting how I was and I'm just non-stop pushing out content
Starting point is 00:04:43 I wasn't spending any money I wasn't going anywhere I wasn't buying anything I was just letting stack up and just you know so the break and slowing down and because it's supply and demand if I'm pushing out everything non-stop Sometimes it'll hit sometimes it'll wind down because it's so much content If I break it up and I slow it down it hits even harder because people are wanting it right You know what I mean? That gives me time to enjoy the luxuries that come with this right definitely But are you like out in the clubs and shit? Yeah You get sections? Yeah every time I'll be in a section by myself or the bottle
Starting point is 00:05:17 Really? Yeah, I swear to God 10 bitches yeah what the fuck yeah you know I've never thrown less than 10 90 in the club Really nobody can say that that's the number Any bottle, bitch, any stripper, any, I've never thrown less than 1090. And you do that in Boston as well? Or you just doing it when you're out of town? Everywhere. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:34 See, I thought that the 1090 Jake that I knew was a little too low key for that and that you weren't really trying to court that kind of attention. Nah, you know, I mean, you can figure out certain shit, certain situations. Oh, because they probably want you there too. No, I don't do that. Oh, okay. I don't do like the promo and shit. I just pop up.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Okay. So if I got somebody hit me up, but yo pull up here, I'm not pulling up there. Right. I'll just show up somewhere and do something. something, especially if I'm by myself, if it's just me, you know what I mean? But if it's an event, you bring your people, everything's good, whatever you hang on. Because it's different in Boston because, I mean, I don't go to the clubs out here, so I don't know how it is, but like, you're a kind of big fish in a relatively small pond in Boston because it's not really known for the
Starting point is 00:06:13 nightlife or the hip-hop side of things is like underrepresented in Boston. Well, the one club that I go to, everyone knows me. Yeah. So it's like, and that's where Millies had his a thing after his show because he invited me out to his show shout out to him oh okay so um the after party was at that same club so the manager all the security they all know me so i go in there just hang on it different i like it um okay but in terms of like your content what has changed since we did that last interview because sometimes i see you experimenting a little bit here and there and doing different types of things like i remember i seen a video that i think was one of the lesser viewed videos on your channel in recent memory and it was something about somebody leaving their kids in the car
Starting point is 00:06:57 and they they fucking died from being in the car or something and i was like i remember seeing the title and being like that's outside the usual 1090 jake wheelhouse well it's is it's not though okay because the first interview that we did when you started like watching a lot of my shit and was shout me out in the beginning i was covering all aspects of crime from crazy shit to you know what i I mean then I started covering the rapid cases that started to go up and then the whole snitching thing just turned that just propelled it people people act like they don't want to hear who's snitching but those videos that's some of your biggest shit right now I mean that's a lot of what people really know me for right now
Starting point is 00:07:39 like when I meet new people that don't know everything else the prison videos that I was doing my own stories the criminal shit that I was doing they know all he'd be the one he'd be exposing the rapids right because when I have a conversation about you with people it's like they know that you did prison time or whatever but it's kind of like a mystery to them which is sort of weird because if you had been tuned into the 1090j channel early it's like that's what you were talking about and then at some point you kind of pivoted into doing all this outside stuff but would you have been the kind of guy who was like rabidly paying attention to the ysl trial before it became your job to sort of document this
Starting point is 00:08:14 stuff because for me even like you know sometimes it's like wow i'm really tapped in with like a lot of stuff underground rap-wise and stuff that would i have been tuned tuned into it if it wasn't like the thing that i was doing for a living like maybe not especially not at this point in my life no i feel like that's what surprises a lot of people when we talk about it like i really don't give a fuck what rap is snitching if i wasn't getting paid off of it i wouldn't i don't give a fuck right i think i do with me you know what i mean but the fact that i can show you like yeah your favorite rapper that you thought was so gangster the one that you want to be like the whole rat. Right. So it was like, you know, because that was the whole reason I started
Starting point is 00:08:48 doing the snitch shit. Because in the beginning, when we were doing the prison videos like me and all the people that I brought on that I was doing time with, it always had a message with it. Like, look, we did this. It fucked us up. We had to go through all this shit. Don't do what we did. So then when I started doing the snitching shit, it was like, look, rap is influential. A lot of people were listening to shit and then stop wanting to do it. I mean, you can look at it with the drugs you can look at it with the violence everybody when they start rapping about 30s and switches everybody got a 30 in a switch now you know what I'm saying so you can't say it isn't influential with that being said if you got people following in your footsteps thinking that you
Starting point is 00:09:27 this super big gangster and we're showing like look that's not really who he is when he got jammed up he told when you got jammed up you didn't say shit now you got a life sentence because you thought you were gangster like him the whole time he ain't even that it's it is kind of a weird thing for you to put yourself into the position of being like the the the guy who's sort of in charge of saying who's who did the right thing or did the wrong thing in hip-hop right is that ever a lot of weight for you to take on nah because I don't really carry that weight that's something that people try to put on me like who put him in child nobody put me in charge yeah I just figured out how to do whatever you want yeah because a lot
Starting point is 00:10:01 of the people that criticize what the fuck I do can't read a piece of paper that's why you ain't in charge because you can't read in arrest report you don't know how to fucking talk never mind read so if you could figure it out then you could start doing what I'm I'm doing because nobody has a problem. That's the thing. Nobody had a problem with anything that I've done in the beginning. Right. Everyone had a problem when they couldn't relate anymore. So what I mean by that is nobody had a problem when I was broke and fucked up. Nobody had a problem when I was still in the hood. But once I started making the money, getting jewelry, getting this, now you can't relate because you're stuck in the same position. You've seen me go up.
Starting point is 00:10:40 You stayed where you're at. Now you're hating. Now you're mad because you didn't elevate. Right. Now they have a problem with it. And now people who are like established personalities or established businessmen in hip hop are looking at you being like, how the fuck is this white guy able to be out here clearly having an impact on the state of the discourse in hip hop and, you know, being able to really affect people's careers and like, you know, be in a position where certain rappers, maybe their career takes a massive hit. And you could kind of blame it on just in general because realistically, if it wasn't you, it was. was going to be somebody else. Somebody else was going to figure out how to document this kind of stuff. But they end up looking at you and you're kind of like
Starting point is 00:11:19 the scapego, like at a certain point, and we can get into more of the details of it in a bit. But like the Boston Ritchie thing, he's somebody who tried to make it personal with you because he saw the fact that you were really like the one who was kind of putting his shit on blast, right? Yeah. I mean, when they say I'm doing this and that,
Starting point is 00:11:39 and it's affecting people this way, that way, I think Vlad and a little bit Duval made a post saying whose career really ended from being exposed as a snitch. Who is it affected? If anything, it's promo. That's what I think they said. Something along the lines of that, right? Do you believe that?
Starting point is 00:11:55 I mean, I don't give a fuck. How I look at it is how you got a problem with a motherfucking exposing snitches, but you got rapists killing each other, rapping about killing each other, got everybody else killing each other. But you're mad that that person snitched and somebody else exposed it. And then they try to put the whole race thing into it. You know what I mean? Like, what's really the problem?
Starting point is 00:12:12 because everybody can talk about kill, kill, kill, and that's fine for the culture. Who's complaining? Who's really doing something? Who's stepping down on the rappers and, you know what I mean? But you expose someone as a snitch, but he made it, but he this and that. Why do you, I don't understand?
Starting point is 00:12:26 But that's the crazy thing, too, is that a lot of these rappers, like some of them might have negative things to say about you. The ones who probably have a lot of positive things to say about you are pretty much not going to say it publicly. But all the rappers who are serious about the street code and shit. man i'd be having a bunch of them hit me i was thinking you probably do right i got hit up by one of the most legendary in my eyes rappers out of the south you know what i mean so when i got the message from him
Starting point is 00:12:52 and i read and he's just like yo keep pushing keep doing what you're doing they hate because you why fuck him so when i read that from him it was just you know that meant everything to me and i mean he said he's going to speak on it when it comes time you know he's a recurring guest over on vlad so So if he speak on it, he speak on it. But that's a big name for me to speak with. But I've spoken to a lot of people behind the scenes. I speak to a lot of them because nobody ever finds out who I'm talking to. I'm not posting it.
Starting point is 00:13:21 I'm not posting DMs. Like, oh, yeah, guess who just hit me up? But there's a lot of rappers that ain't with that shit. They just don't speak out on it because of what comes with it. And ain't even like the beef shit. It's the industry shit. Right. Well, I don't know how much access young thug has to YouTube right now.
Starting point is 00:13:37 but assuming that he has some ability to see what's going on on YouTube, or at least he has people talking to him, telling him what they're seeing on YouTube. He's somebody that realistically should be thanking you because there are interrogations and statements that have been given and stuff that the world might not necessarily know about if it wasn't for somebody like you putting it out there, right? Yeah, I mean, they tried to say thug, snitch or whatever, whatever. I did a video on that, and his sister thanked me. Yeah, see, okay, there you go, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Yeah, so, but the thing is, when I dropped that video, everybody assumed I had something negative to say. So all the comments and, you know, it hit all the blogs. Everybody's talking cat shit. But his actual sister is like, yo, I appreciate you for clearing his name on that. You know, so a lot of people, they don't even want to see what it is. They just have an opinion and hate on it. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Oh, it's a white boy. Oh, he making money. Oh, he this and that. It's what it is. Okay. But before we even get into any specific situations, what has changed in terms of like the public's ability to get information about things that are going on both behind bars in interrogation rooms,
Starting point is 00:14:43 etc. Because even something like the fucking Island Boys video that you did where there was like body cam footage from the cops of the Island Boys, you know, asking to be put in PC and shit like that. That was like kind of jaw dropping to me because if I was in his exact position, like being booked into the jail, I would never think in a million years like, oh, this is footage that might end up on YouTube one day. Now I would definitely be thinking that like, oh, I'd be.
Starting point is 00:15:07 better not say any weird shit right now because it's going to be on the internet sooner or later Chicago Rez, shout out to him. He just dropped the video. Bingo. A little Jay with a punk sitting on his lap and people were trying to say it's fake. Brod told me how he got it. So I know for a fact that ain't fake. Really? See, this is the thing, right? With me personally, I only knew how to do it to a certain extent because I was requesting my own paperwork before I ever got on anyone else's shit okay I requested my case shit I went I didn't go there but I emailed the prison and requested all my disciplinary reports telling you why I went to confinement the fight the this to that it's everything that I got into in prison you know what I'm saying so and you were
Starting point is 00:15:49 getting that just because you were curious or because you wanted to show somebody it was on it oh you know we got a fight in prison okay I got multiple Dias right what fuck you mean I did over a year in confinement in prison. Oh, you didn't do all that. All right, well, here's the paper. You know what I mean? So it was, that was back when it was like, oh, yeah, you were in prison, but you weren't doing this. So I'm bringing on everybody I was in prison with. Right. You know what I mean? So there was nothing that you could question at that point. But I was trying to, like, prove myself in a sense because I was new to the YouTube shit. But more or less, I always looked at TMZ news stations. Like, how do they get access to
Starting point is 00:16:24 this shit? And then I found out anyone can do it. So there's people now. I mean, there's so many people that's just putting out body cam. It's records requests. That's all it is. They're either the police department, the sheriff's department, the DA, the clerk, you send in a fucking request. Adam 22 got arrested on this day. Here's his day to birth. I'm requesting all body cam footage. But they're either going to hit you with an invoice or they send you the video for free. So you have to know that like you have to have some basic idea of what occurred. You can't just say like, hey, I want to get all the records of John Brown. Because if you're not specific, no, you can do that.
Starting point is 00:17:01 It's just going to take longer. You know what I mean? Because Chicago Reyes did that with Vaughn. Right. And found every fucking recorded incident with King Vaughn. That's how he was able to put out the thing where Vaughn was asking for PC. And you have to pay for that? It depends on where you're getting it from.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Okay. Some places you do, some places you don't pee-no. Remember him? Oh, yeah. He was just hitting me up about you. So that was like $800 for all of his shit. Oh, wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Because you got footage of him from like when he was. super young like over 10 years ago right you like 20 something okay because he's older than me okay but it was like but boston rich's videos were free really yeah and you were the first person to obtain those yeah damn legendary but so okay you could like because okay when I saw the island boys footage I thought oh it was a Florida thing because there's like different laws in Florida about reporting that's why I say Watt 100 is a dumb ass because he speaks on a lot of shit he don't know about okay um whack was saying nobody can get that type of shit
Starting point is 00:18:01 this that and the third. Florida has the sunshine laws. Everything is public. I have a fucking thing in my phone that I just copy and paste. Pursuant to, da-da-da-da, I state the statute, I am requesting this, that, and the third, and you get it. So anything from body cam footage to fucking whatever, you're going to get it all.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Because that's, Florida will always be like reported on more in the media and shit because of the fact that they have those sunshine laws. So there's this whole like myth or like you know ongoing meme of like Florida man because there's just more access for the media to things that are going on in Florida that would other be crazy shit going on in Florida right but it's easier to get access to the reporting on it right I think that the reporters in Florida understood that they can capitalize on the craziness within the state right because they have the
Starting point is 00:18:48 access to that shit that shit goes crazy right so it's like damn so okay but that's see that's what I'm saying though people complain about being broke this and that all you got to do is make fucking requests all day put it race to YouTube add you two cents at this point in time he stepped out of the car now you make six figures and you're not holding this information close to your chest either because you're you're happy to share right told to do this same shit that I'm doing right what the why didn't do it what the fuck oh I want to get stuff do what I'm doing request these videos if you don't want to put your face on it request pay do it blows up it's it's weird to me body cam footage the stupidest
Starting point is 00:19:22 shit goes crazy and it makes mad money how are you able to like like how are you able to say I want all the footage of king vaughn and then what they have all these different video clips tagged as his name like his government name and then they're able to just compile that and give it to you it's fucking crazy public records or even like they have to keep it on file or if it's a potter like this is the thing i know we're going to get into a grito's case right i'm sure at some point in time yeah we got so i had already requested the video for the arrest and the interview with the DEA I was emailed back saying they were destroyed because of the retention period. So in Florida, certain counties, there's going to be a period in time where it's like if a year goes by or two years go by and nobody requests it, they destroy it.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Now, if the district attorney who prosecuted the case still has a copy of it in evidence, you can get it from them. But I was told there's no video for Grito that I was. I can get unless you go through the DA. I didn't hit up the DA. So if he can still get that. Definitely. Okay. We'll get into that. But so I just want to stay on the King Liljay thing. So how do you how do you know that that's him and how did like like that that that is pretty damning right there is if they requested video footage of him and then they got that they requested video footage of him is that if me and you were in jail together, right? And let's say I'll punch you in your shit. And I get out of jail and I'm like, yo, I hit Adam 22 when I was. and just, oh, no, you didn't, no, you didn't. I bet. Because I know that, you know, once I hit you, I got in trouble for it.
Starting point is 00:20:59 So I send me a request for my disciplinary report. When I get the copy of my disciplinary report, it's going to say, on this day, inmate 1090 struck inmate 22 in the face. Okay, now I'm requesting the video from that incident. Right. But that's how you got Liljay. The Liljay thing, there was no incident. It was just him with a dude sitting on a, you can't have any type of. So that might have been written up at some point?
Starting point is 00:21:22 Yeah. You can't do shit. shit like that in jail right what the fuck that you can't do they got names for certain shit like that so he got in trouble for that at some point probably what i understand yeah you can't be involved romantically in a fucking jail and the fact that you're doing it with a punk all right is i was denying the shit too he put out a whole long uh video recording you might as well just live his truth see i would have been willing to give him the benefit of the doubt if not for the fact that so many people in the past have basically called him gay king yellow had a video saying the king little j
Starting point is 00:21:56 tried to kiss him off of e-pill ain't they from the same side too and that's even the weirder part but i guess you know you're not going to make out with the ops right so you're going to make out with your own i don't know though this is getting crazy as fuck but that little j shit that's his own situation i don't got nothing to do with that situation i mean i've seen it because i've been in prison but yeah if he was doing something with a punk the COs can definitely write that shit That is fucking crazy. Yeah. I mean, that right there, that video clip is just the kind of thing that we know goes on behind bars. But for somebody like me, I don't know exactly what it would look like to have a punk while you're behind bars. And you see in the video and like, that's got to be a first in hip hop history. Yeah, probably. Unless you've been to prison, you're not seeing shit like that. Yo, that is fucking mind-blowing. All right. Do you think was what King Vaughn did in the clip that came out of him yesterday was that dishonorable? For you.
Starting point is 00:22:48 him to basically say that he was gay so that they're saying that he was going to go into the op dorm otherwise how do we know that it could have been a lame-ass dorm like all right when i was in county jail bro if you go into a certain dorm and there's no money nobody's gambling everybody's a bumming here you'll have people check in immediately i'm scared for my life why i don't know people want to kill me and they'll move you in a different dorm now you go in a different dorm there's money over here people are gambling they got drugs you're hanging out so it could have just simply been a situation like that because he was already in the dorm so if it was an op situation why didn't they strike him but then he's looking over and saying like hi little johnny or whatever like yeah i mean that he clearly
Starting point is 00:23:25 knows some of them doesn't look good but he's most likely trolling yeah he was trolling yeah i'm sure that if he knew that that video was going to come out he would have went about it a different way right you know what i mean so he did the gay shit maybe that was the only way he was able to get out because the ceos weren't because i mean i've been in some spots bro where you're like i'm in the fear for my life they're like why you're not bleeding right you can get stabbed you not scared go back to your bunk and the CEOs will fuck you up if you keep pressing them saying you want to check PC right so if the gay shit was the only way he could get out of his situation that's what he did but generally speaking does a gangster who's behind bars does he have to like if
Starting point is 00:24:00 they're about to check you into the op dorm do you just have to go with it and like like would it be more honorable for him to just been like all right fuck it i'm spending time but these guys i don't have to run mad fades or whatever it depends on where you're right well i mean bro where i was at it weren't fades right it's going straight the metal so if you're getting putting an ab dorm you don't have anything on you you know what i mean so what are you gonna do yeah like in that situation me looking at it logically yeah i would say i was gay before i got stabbed the thing is your people are gonna say you're smart they're gonna say your pussy right who do you really give a fuck about you know what i mean so it's like you don't do what you're gonna do i got
Starting point is 00:24:35 put into an ab dorm, I didn't even know it was an abdorm. And then I found out when I got in there, my bunky was a zo in prison and he was going home that night. So they put me in the cell, oh, what you are, I'm blood. Oh, I'm zo. So I'm like, ah, fuck. Now I know I'm in a zo house, you know what I mean? And the zoos came to his door. They pressing me, oh, we got a blood in it. Like, they're yelling the shit out because there's no CO in here. So I know when the door pops is on, you feel me? And the zoos at the door were like, yo, shoot us everything. Talking to my bunky. He's going home. This man pulls out like three locks, pokers, raises, and he's sliding it all under the door to them.
Starting point is 00:25:10 He was like that hold down man. You know what I mean? But you got all this metal in here. I don't got nothing. And he just shot it all under the door. So now I know all of them got that shit. You know, so there's situations you just can't avoid. But generally speaking, nah, you're not supposed to just, that's called checking in.
Starting point is 00:25:25 What happened in that situation, though? I got moved out. I was never supposed to get put in there. It was a 21 and up dorm. I was 19. I think the most important thing is that nobody seems like they actually think that King Bond is gay or was gay. No. But Lilj, it's still up in the air. Well, that's the thing is you can show Boston Richie for 48 minutes and people are going to say, oh, I don't think he told. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:46 I don't know what kind of video they need to see of Liljay, but people are going to have their opinion. I mean, he said it's not me, different hair, different tattoos, different yada, yada, yada, which to be fair, it is filmed pretty far away, but. Well, Chicago Reds posted the disciplinary report that the situation came from. Well, that seems pretty damning too, yeah. Arguing. Wow. Yeah, it happened.
Starting point is 00:26:09 That's crazy. So I wonder if he's going to have to fess up to it. He probably would a punk right now. Ain't he locked up? Yeah. He probably got two of them shit to his fucking self. It's bad when you have like multiple people from your side though, too, because even like famous decks, he was tweeting it up saying like he gay,
Starting point is 00:26:25 I bet no any gay, yada yada, it's like, okay, at a certain point, we've got to probably take somebody's word for it, right? Yeah. And I mean, that's the thing. though is a lot of people don't say anything until it comes out so it's like you knew the whole time behind the scene not saying decks or whatever right there's a lot of situations like that too especially with the rats yeah it's like oh yeah we all knew he snitched but y'all was with him two months ago right so okay yeah let's let's dig into the boston ritual and just get that one
Starting point is 00:26:51 out of the way so how did you even begin to like think about investigating this and how like just give us an overview of it i guess podak blacks i just posted some shit saying Boston Richie was snitching. I forget if it was just, I forget if it was like a piece of paper or what exactly it was, but I reposted it. Y'all know I'm going to look into this. And then Boston Richie hit me up. So he DM me.
Starting point is 00:27:14 He was like, yeah, look it up, this and that, da-da-da. I found some shit. And I hit him back. Like, what is this? Right. And then, you know, he had his version of events. I'm like, okay, yeah, yeah. I'm talking to his brother, his cousin, manager, whoever the fuck it is.
Starting point is 00:27:28 And then, um, we're going to put it out. the paperwork came out then the video came out right and so how long do you have to wait for the video i forget it'd be like a week two weeks it's pretty wild when like boston richie who was like a very popin rapper at the time with future and all that where he is is eager to tap in with you and to have the conversation about you know the shit before anything even really comes out but there's a lot of rappers that do that i taught to finesse two times on the phone weeks before that shit came out okay yeah you know what he told me my people gonna rock with me right around All right. He didn't want to talk because I taught like, look, somebody in your city says he knows you.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Says you're trying to pay him off not to expose you. Right. Says he got the paperwork on you. Do you know who this is? Because I'm going to reach out and try to find maybe he's a rat. I'm going to look into him. Right. And he's like, oh, I don't want to say nothing because, you know, if he tripping fall, they're going to say, I have something to do with it.
Starting point is 00:28:23 I understandable. But my people are going to rock with me right or wrong. Mm, all right. Yeah, because if they say that, it sounds like a distraction. Yeah, there shouldn't be a wrong. So it's like Yeah Because your people have every reason
Starting point is 00:28:36 To keep rocking with you regardless But they feel like you fucked up or not Because you are beneficial to them In their situation in life right now Right You got all the money Yeah Okay but just refresh some of the people's memories
Starting point is 00:28:48 With the Boston Richie thing It's basically the footage came out It's like the cops Just really peppering him With a shitload of different questions Just trying to get information About a shooting that involves What like a family member of his or something?
Starting point is 00:29:00 Yeah I think his cousin got killed Right. And so they're just asking them for information. But what leverage did they have that we know of for him to even speak on that? Like, why was he in there offering up information anyway, right? I don't know, because I don't think he was, I don't know if he was there or not. I forget all the details exactly. Right. That was just the one case, though.
Starting point is 00:29:20 So there was that case where he was in communication with that. And, you know, he went to the homicide investigator's office and was giving up all the information and named mad people. He said the names were fake. but then I started looking into his dead cousin and I said that respectfully I don't be dissing the dead and all that shit but the people that he was naming was friends with his dead cousin on Facebook
Starting point is 00:29:42 and he's saying he's giving the police fake names but then I found another case with a stolen car and in that situation he told the police yeah my co-defendants knew it was stolen and they ended up getting arrested one of the co-defendants reached out to me and was like yeah he told on me but you know how the city go people
Starting point is 00:29:59 ain't gonna care whatever whatever whatever he's DMing me all this shit and then he goes on say cheese and does an interview saying no he ain't told yeah i mean the so you overall think that that justification the boston rich you had where he was saying that he was just giving them fake names that was bullshit and i wouldn't give a fuck what justification he got because he used to be claiming some shit now he ain't claiming that shit right i'm the reason he ain't claiming that shit claiming a gang thing it's all in his lyrics really so Because it's what other fucking justification do we need if you ain't that no more that's enough because we know that like future and all them kind of took them off that tour and we haven't seen them together I don't know what the history of that was because he said he took himself off
Starting point is 00:30:42 That he needed a mental break or whatever whatever that's that's what he said apparently I don't know what the truth is behind that situation All I know is I don't need any other fucking justification right because you ain't throwing that shit up anymore Mm-hmm so you get dubbed out your set or dubbed out your hood That's enough to, you know what I mean? And that's the shit behind the scenes that, you know, but that's how the shit goes. Because he told academics, we know mutual people, we do. And there's a reason they didn't get handled in that mutual way.
Starting point is 00:31:13 He never wanted to link me. He never wanted to, he didn't want to go that road. But did you have anybody putting pressure on you to not speak about him in a certain way as a result of you knowing people in real life and shit? How, how you're going to put pressure on me by the rat? Fuck that works. Got rocking out about that? Yeah, that would be a pretty weird thing for them to be applying pressure about this sounds pretty fucking stupid right? Yeah
Starting point is 00:31:37 They might feel maybe they were getting broke off on some bread and they mad about the eye break me off on some bread right fuck you mean Wow, that's interesting. So crazy world you think he's really down to fuck his cousin his country ass probably the fuck Most likely shit you ever been to Tallahassee? I have yeah, I ain't distant Tallahassee but the only fucking time I've been there was either getting transferred to a prison or going to pick somebody up from a prison. Right. That shit's country. Yeah. As fuck.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Right. This is where like the Klan is, like the KKK, that shit's still out there. Right. You go to North Florida. It's a different world, bro. Isn't in Tallahassee where there's like hip hop fishing chips? I don't know. And I think it's like DJ Khalids.
Starting point is 00:32:19 All I know about T. Oh, yeah. Other than that. I just remember going there in my BMX days and having some good times out there. But so for the record, 90 Jake is anti-fucking your cousin? Yeah. I always wonder, because I never had a cousin who was hot enough to even think about it.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Yeah. I think you got enough bullshit on your name to just avoid that whole topic. You think that would make sure it wears for me? The blog, start going crazy. Talking about, oh, no, he did have a third cousin. He tried to fuck one time. That shit's just going to... My whole thing is, like, if you don't know him when you're little, like, if you know
Starting point is 00:32:51 when you're five, yeah, that's weird. If you just, like, run into him as an adult, I don't know. Like, if my cousin was feeling me, I might go for it. Just say you listen. to boston richie if you're trying to justify his cousin fucking you know amazing um so okay but with the boston richie thing like has it been surprising to you to see that people are kind of like still embracing him it still feels like his fan base is fairly solid right that's that's the thing is like you're gonna have certain people that do you're gonna have certain people that don't i don't really give a fuck either
Starting point is 00:33:21 way it's not like i'm doing it to end somebody's career it's like look this makes money this makes me money right this is business business is booming so it is what the fuck it is I don't care if you stop rapping I'm not listening to that shit right I mean it fuck I was listening to him before I found that out right but now it doesn't hit the same you know so I'm not telling people you should feel like this or shouldn't feel like this but then again it's the influence know who you're listening to know who you're trying to be like you know what I mean like they say future doesn't do drugs did you ever hear that well he in an interview said that he
Starting point is 00:33:56 doesn't do drugs to the extent that he says that he does drugs in his lyrics which to me means he's motherfuckers will do heavy drugs listening to his music myself included so that's what i mean not not gonna fuckers will do gangster shit listening to gangsta music right and then come to find out the gangster you thought was a gangster is not right so it's just like okay hypothetically say that you found video footage of king vaughan snitching like no questions asked this is terrible i don't even i don't even want to do the hypothetical shit. See this is the thing, right? I dropped paperwork on SCY gym. He just got flamed up in Florida, right? If he had died, I wouldn't I wouldn't drop the paper. Really? Okay, we don't have to make it
Starting point is 00:34:36 about King Vaughn, but just in general, the dead. Would you expose paperwork on somebody who is dead knowing, like if it's the right thing to do and it's going to make money? It has nothing to do with the right thing to do because they've already gone. Yeah. At that point, you're just fucking up someone's legacy, someone's, you know what I'm saying? Like they try to draw paperwork on young pappy, Chicago rappers. It's one of my favorite. Chicago rappers. Right. He'd been dead for like four or five fucking years.
Starting point is 00:35:00 You know what difference does it make now? Right. You know, because it's not like he's actively, well, I don't know. Maybe he still has an influence over people. But for me, personally, if they're dead, I don't even see the point. Right. It's just like at that point, I kind of feel like it's more malicious, if anything. You're just trying to shit on somebody in, you know, because they try to shit on
Starting point is 00:35:19 Tupac and say he wasn't a real gangster. Right. He was an actor. He was this. He was a model. He was this. He was that. But then you just sound like a hater.
Starting point is 00:35:26 But it is weird with Tupac because if Tupac lived in our modern age, it would pretty much be like open and shut that you are not a gangster in the way that you sometimes were portraying. I've met kids from some of the worst blocks in Florida go to prison and their pussy. And I've met kids that have come from the suburbs, never been introduced to a violent environment and they thrive in it. So you don't know at any point in time somebody, like let's say you get drunk, you crash in a car, you kill somebody, you get 10 years. and you turn into a super savage in prison.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Might have to. How are they going to say you're not a gangster? You've been down 10 years, fucking shit up. Right. You know what I mean? So your life can change at any point in time. Just like you got a lot of gangster rappers that turn into family, man. It's the opposite effect.
Starting point is 00:36:10 You can go one way or the other. Yeah. But like with the, like, with the Tupac thing, I think like there's a lot of damning stuff. Like he went to art school or like, what was it, dance school? Like he was a backup dancer in the digital underground when they were like, touring and stuff like there's just a lot of things like even if I did go to prison to
Starting point is 00:36:30 become a super savage after 10 years it's like still if I say some gangster shit people are gonna say you're from New Hampshire or you were a BMX rider or you know whatever like they would have a whole host of ammunition there you know dancers are some of the best fighters right like I remember when I was in high school we had a male cheerleader and somebody tried him and he beat the fuck out of him really because he can do back flips kick flip all types of shit and he can fight like Chris Brown I guarantee he'll beat the dog shit out of somebody. Right. All that dancing and shit? Yeah. You respect Chris Brown as a blood?
Starting point is 00:37:00 I don't know nothing about that situation. I'm sure you can find out. I mean, I don't know nothing about that at all. Right. And I'm not going to fucking ass whack about it. So, you know? But, okay, the other thing I wanted to ask you about the Boston Ritchie thing, though, is that, okay, his brother was the one who really, like, tried to re-engage the conversation about you and the paintball situation and you allegedly snitching on the people who shot what, like your grandma's window out like your aunt's window okay do you want to like explain that situation or explain like how that's different than the boston rich you think well for one people are like why'd you uh you didn't have to say anything why'd you say anything you got the right
Starting point is 00:37:43 to remain silent i wasn't being investigated for anything it was never a crime that you know they never looked at me like i'm the one that did it i shot out her fucking window called her oh yeah someone shot the window up so she called the police the police come i don't know i've seen two people they ran that way and that was it and you know what's crazy about that is they made fake paperwork on that and when it came out that that that shit was fake nobody talked about it see that's the that's the thing that i stand on is if somebody's paperwork comes back fake i'm gonna correct it one of the only people i've done it for is a hundred k track right there really ain't too many situations where i'm wrong so in that situation when you ended up taking down the video about
Starting point is 00:38:21 track or whatever that was what the problem was i don't i don't I don't think I took it down. We did an interview though. Right, right, corrected it. That was the thing is I corrected the situation. I've stood on that with a lot of these rapists. If it's fake, you can show me it's fake, I'll take it down.
Starting point is 00:38:38 I'll make a video on how I fucked up, because I'm not trying to put fake shit on somebody, which is what they did to me. People were so thirsty to try to find something on me that when that hit, it hit. You know what I mean? But then someone actually called the fucking police. police department and the police literally told them that document doesn't exist because they
Starting point is 00:38:59 made some shit saying two people got arrested they never existed there was never any two people right so when they try to throw that out there boston richie also tried to say a interview that i gave with the news got people in prison right locked up i did an interview with the news speaking on how it wasn't there because i had people in prison sending me videos oh show them this show them this People Odean fucking all this crazy shit got mad drugs Mad phones whatever whatever but these are the dudes with all the shit sending it to me Yo yeah put this out there show them how it isn't there people are dying nobody sees it right because when you when I when I did that right No one had a problem with it
Starting point is 00:39:38 Two years later now everybody got a problem with it right see what I'm saying but there's two narrative getting spun Boston Richie tried to say when it happened They raided prisons and people got arrested and stuff like a listen anytime something happens like that Florida like I said it's public you go on the FL DOC site that's the Department of Corrections it tells you every single CEO that gets arrested for something it tells you when there's big raids it tells you when there's major events I was out of prison already for five years when I gave that interview of them them videos came from like seven eight nine 10 different compounds you think they're gonna raid the whole fucking Florida department of correct you know what I'm saying so it's just like
Starting point is 00:40:16 he was capping in a lot of the shit that he was saying and then he said to academics that he wanted fight. And I was like, I really know you cap now. Because I know who the fuck you were trying to be next to. You know what I mean? So if you wanted to set that situation up, all that could have happened. But he never wanted to go that route. Bro, I had a Latin king from New York that's a producer hit me up saying, yeah, you know, you didn't read my message on time, but his brother was more or less trying to finance a situation for you to just leave it alone. Like, come on, bro. So he wanted to physically fight you. That's what he told academics. He ain't never telling him about. Does that make you feel as if I'll beat the dog shit out of Boston Richie?
Starting point is 00:40:57 But would you- Is 1090 Jake above a fade at this point in life like meeting up with someone to fight That you have an issue with or has an issue with you? No, I don't think anybody's above that right But I mean there's gonna be stipulations if you already a rat that ain't nobody respecting like what am I getting a bag off of that shit? Yeah You know what I mean like because that's the thing with YouTube now is everyone will get paid to fight Right so now you can make a hundred k hundred fifty k hundred fifty k two hundred fifty k
Starting point is 00:41:23 off a fight instead of just linking up. If it's on some other time and though if it's more of a respectable situation, like Chinaman AD, respect the fuck out of that. It didn't go on the cameras. It didn't, they just handled the situation.
Starting point is 00:41:37 That was it. Right, yeah. But yeah, there would be a weird way for me to spend like a Monday afternoon just going and catching a fade with somebody. I don't think that's the type of lifestyle you live. Definitely not me.
Starting point is 00:41:46 But just in general for anyone. Hey, you and Jason Love, that might be a pay-per-view event. I asked somebody that I know who's very involved in the YouTuber boxing space. I said, how much you really think I could get paid to fight him? And they said, 200 grand. And I was like, okay, never mind.
Starting point is 00:42:02 It's just, not enough. No, like, if we were talking a million plus, it would definitely be a conversation. But I don't think they got that kind of money at this point. Because the shit is all pirated left and right. They're not making that much money off it. I mean. Well, that's the thing. You're on a different caliber, too.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Yeah. So 200K ain't the same for you. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, the porn money is just like, oh, so me and Jason Love. could just like fuck girls on our own and make a lot of money off only fans and not have to beat each other up also anyone who's ever seen me standing next to jason love like that that would be a brief fight yeah yeah he's a fucking giant oh he's taller than you and he was like a marine i just
Starting point is 00:42:37 found out which is probably not good i feel like you develop a lot of toughness as a marine that's like a 200,000 dollar ass weapon yeah yeah definitely not a good look i'm not gonna i'm not gonna perish for the back no definitely Um, okay, but yeah, so that like when you talk about the video of you exposing what was going on in the jail, it's, it's kind of like how you choose to frame it because you could say that you were exposing corruption and the, the officers allowing a really like decrepit environment to thrive. That's, that's what I did. See, there was a full, you know, the full topic of conversation. I was speaking on how a lot of the, uh, overdose deaths are just being reported as accidental. so people don't actually know how many people are actually overdosing inside of the prison system. And then Florida's corrupt as fuck. But he tried to twist it in whatever way he could.
Starting point is 00:43:28 And that didn't take away from the fact that you got a 48-minute fucking video sitting inside of a homicide investigator's office. You're not charged with homicide. You're not facing homicide charges. You're just there voluntarily talking. Right. How the fuck is that the same? Yeah. You're giving names up.
Starting point is 00:43:45 You said the names were fake. Prove the names weren't fake. And then you told in another case. and then you told everybody you're trying to fuck your cousin so it's like i mean he was saying he was down to fuck his cousin so we don't really know if he did that's the sorriest double ex-up freshman list fucking i fuck with little tyler yeah the rest of them i do feel like this year's came and went with the least uh publicity of any year ever i couldn't even name you all of the people on it right now when i said i got paperwork on three of them that shit went crazy oh rob four nine
Starting point is 00:44:17 i like his shit's good yeah yeah he actually hit me up because i think flock said I got paperwork on him is that true no I don't know why to fuck flogco get that tight ass pains cutting off the circulation he can't think right flaco has issues with the truth sometimes really yeah so Rob four nine hit me him like now that's a dub okay so since you mentioned them what is the like what what spurred when you first find out the whack 100 had any kind of issue with you I don't really remember bro because after I did the first interview with you he followed me on Instagram and he still follows me to this day right I think it was
Starting point is 00:44:52 the 6-9 shit. I did a video on 6-9. I think that was the first time he said something about me. Right. And then it just propelled from there. It's weird because you guys are supposed to be on the same team where you're both people who are... Not necessarily. Well, not like that team, but like the, you know, wanting to, like he's against snitching. He's clearly involved in exposing people for this type of stuff on Clubhouse. He takes a pretty hard stance on it. You're in the same boat. But then, I mean, you do see Wack giving out passes to all kinds of people that you've reported on because he has connections with him in the industry. shit that and then i see him make accusations against people where there's no proof like 21 savage right
Starting point is 00:45:28 and i think he says something about push is yeah so it's like i don't do that either his logic on 21 savage is just like oh because you are an immigrant who came from the uk at some point that means that you're required to speak to to be honest with the cops about everything that you've ever been involved in seems like a stretch to me well i mean i think the gist of it was the type of visa that he needed it was something to do with being a victim in a crime. Right. And 21 Savage was shot when he was like 21 years old and his friend got killed.
Starting point is 00:45:58 As far as what he needed to do to obtain that, it could have been cooperating in the sense of, yeah, I got shot. I seen a black guy. I don't know which direction it went. You could have gave any story, a fake story, whatever. But the thing is, how would that look for 21 Savage? Like, you're putting him in a weird situation. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:15 You're accusing him of being a rat on shit that you've never even seen. But if he comes out and defends his name, and says I lie to the police. Now what happens if they take his visa? You're putting them in a defensive situation. So it's like, why even accuse somebody if you don't have the paperwork behind it? That's how I look at it. You know what I mean? That's why when I, we spoke on him when I did the interview from Boston. You was asking about that. I'm like, no, I'm not going for it. It's just like, I don't do that. And I actually thought Wack was smarter than he is. I thought he was the one getting shit. He's not. Shout out to Mickey Truth. She's actually the one
Starting point is 00:46:49 that gets his paper he relies on other people in his clubhouse world right yeah specifically okay cool with her you know what I mean we've gone back and forth about cases she's actually covered my case and told him nah Jake ain't a snitch uh why you're doing you know what I mean so it's like it's the personal shit because she also stamped QCP snitched right and that's wax man's hmm so shout out to micky truth because she keeps it a hundred right but so with the whack thing like what's his reasoning for like really having issues with you besides just I don't give a fuck, bro. I don't care about that.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Just the fact that he's... He just wants to, I don't know. Yeah, I don't really get it. Because I mean, shit really be affecting people's careers. Yeah. You know, so it's like when the QC shit came out, I guess he wanted to show that he's defending dude or whatever. And 6-9, that's his artist.
Starting point is 00:47:39 So he's going to defend 6-9. I really just don't give a fuck because I ain't a lot. Nobody on the East really likes him anyways. Wack? Yeah. People got issues with him out there? It's really just from the six-nine shit. Like, how are you going to pick up the biggest rat from the East Coast and, you know, take them up under your wing?
Starting point is 00:47:55 That's like if somebody snitched on the West Coast, top snitch, and then somebody from New York signs him. Right. What the fuck are you doing? But whack is the same dude who's on, like, Y's ass because he, I don't know, allegedly, like, isn't from where he says he's from or he's had a weird history in the streets or whatever. I don't know the whole L.A. thing. I know that everyone that I've talked to from out here, none of them have. ever said Wax a real one. None of them have ever stamped him and been like, yeah, you should fuck with him. No one's ever said that to me. So maybe I just don't know the right people, but
Starting point is 00:48:30 from multiple organizations, not just blood, paru, et cetera, like all around the board, nobody's ever been like, yeah, that's the dude. So. Interesting. I mean, Wack definitely comes in here with some real ones. He definitely seems like he demands respect from a significant percentage of people but there's also a lot of people who I've heard over the years say that they don't fuck with him at all. Maybe we're getting off on the wrong foot. Maybe we just need to have a sit down and maybe we can come to a conclusion because me and him have never met. We really don't know each other. Right. So maybe if we had a personal understanding, it might be a different situation. Yeah. There might be a mutual respect or somebody might get dead like Kelpie, but
Starting point is 00:49:10 either fucking way. Yeah, I have a ton of respect for a wag, but at the same time, I mean, it's pretty obvious to me that he kind of picks and chooses who he's going to go hard. You got to stay relevant. So if he feels like what he's doing is keeping him relevant and it definitely is, right. Do what you're doing. Yeah. And you know what's interesting, but the 6-9 thing with him is that he at first was
Starting point is 00:49:29 saying that he was 6-9's manager. Then at a certain point, like I said that the other day. I'm like, aren't you his manager? And he said, no, we work together. Well, that's my homie or some shit. So I don't know exactly what changed there, but he's still got a relationship with him. He was just with him in Miami like the other day. And he facetime me with 6-9.
Starting point is 00:49:47 And I'm just like, what the fuck is this? conversation going to be like and six nine just goes hey oh adam who's the biggest rapper you had on your show in the last three four years and like he asked me like three times kind of like put me on the spot to answer i'm like probably vaugh and he goes yeah well rah rah rah and then he just starts talking about how he's number one on the latin charts or some shit and i really didn't know what to say because i'm like i don't pay attention to that i don't know about latin music it's great if you're doing well in that world i think six nine reposted me when the boss and richie shit happen really yeah and then academics I was on a oh it was me academics somebody else in
Starting point is 00:50:26 6-9 on a discord I never spoke to him though but we were all in the same like call I guess but he was basically saying like yeah if 1090 J says you were at you were right you are right and he's like he's up there he's the fucking top yeah he stamps it that's a big because a lot of the stuff we're talking about with like gunna I mean well it's not really This is the thing about Gunna, bro. If Gunna's a rat, everyone else is a rat. And nobody likes to say that because everybody took the same plea. He's just the one that was on video.
Starting point is 00:50:57 So it's like, if they didn't rat, he didn't rat. If he ratted, they all ratted. You can't just be biased in the situation. So is it weird for you to see Gunna coming out? And his album seems like it was pretty well received. You did have a lot of the big rappers kind of shitting on him for it and everything. But it sold pretty well. It sold just as well as the Thug album.
Starting point is 00:51:15 A lot of people said it's better than the Thug album. Um, does that like hurt you in your heart a little bit to see Gunna like apparently, it seems like he's going to make it through this. I don't really care to be honest. Yeah. I don't, I don't really. It doesn't affect me. Do you believe that he got tricked into making that statement or do you think that he knew
Starting point is 00:51:33 what he was getting into? No, you don't get tricked. You know what the fuck you're saying? It's not like he's fucking 15. You know what I'm saying? You're literally a grown man. You know what you got to say. You know when you're hot doesn't sound right when it comes out of your mouth.
Starting point is 00:51:45 You're saying that, yeah, why as hell is a gang. yeah, I have knowledge of them committing crimes, but every one of them said that. Right. Young thug's own brother took the same plea. Un-Funk? Yeah. Why isn't he right? Right.
Starting point is 00:51:59 So it's like, it's picking and choosing. I mean, he is, right? Or at least, like, based on what we've seen. If gun is, then they all are. Right. Thug's the only one that can't snitch on his fucking self, so. Do you think there's a chance that thug gets out and kind of disowns everybody that took a plea? Or is that just going to be too?
Starting point is 00:52:17 detrimental to his social circle i don't even want to give my opinion on what i think is going to happen i don't think it's going to be anything good because it seems like he's the top person that they want to set an example with so i think that right there is going to go left so you think he's the one who's likely to get smacked over the head with a long ass sentence yeah yeah it's wild that we have to wait this fucking long for it and the trial seems like it's never going to happen well the melly shit's about to finish and that's going to be fucking crazy okay so based on what you've seen how do you think turn out. I don't know. I don't know. That's your tactic. I feel like Melly's going to beat it. Really? I don't know if that means Bortland will too, though. Because it's like if they can't
Starting point is 00:53:03 prove Melly killed anyone, Mellie's off, but Bortland was still riding around with two bodies. So now they have to, because he's not just charged with the murder. He's charged with accessory. So it's like, I don't know, that shit's crazy. I think Melly got a good chance though. Yeah, I mean, everybody from his camp has always been weirdly positive about it, like track and Drew and shit. They always, overly positive. I've spoken to all of them behind the scenes, not Melly, obviously, but I've spoken to track and all them. And there's like no hesitation with a positive outcome.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Right. I know he's good. Which I normally feel like you're used to people acting like their homie's going to get out of jail and beat it, right? at jail and beat it, right? This is the thing is I knew that there was a lot of bullshit in his case when I got brought up. Because I'm involved in the Melly case. Right. What did they say about you? The undercover detective who testified with the mask on said, I'm one of the most highest and respected members of G-Shine, the same gang that Melly is allegedly a part of. Mind you, I don't know Melly. Right. Nobody I know knows Melly. So that right there doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:54:20 This gang detective said he got this information from a confidential source in Broward County, which makes me think of Pino. Because who else would say some fucking retarded shit like that? Wow. But he's making it seem like he's the fucking the gang guy, right? So I would assume he looks the pot, this and that. but nobody knows because he had the mask on. And he's acting like he's infiltrating gangs, this and that. I found out what he looks like.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Yeah, that's it. So listening to the case, Melly's lawyer said, searching on Cash App brings up a picture of him, his kid, and his wife. So when you type in a phone number on Cash App, it'll bring up that person, right? That's one way you can search for people try to find out who they are. Okay. So which camera you want me to go ahead in?
Starting point is 00:55:18 These ones pointed out you would probably be good, yeah. Or maybe we could. How about this? How about you hold it? Okay. So that way if there's any legal issues, it'll go on you and not me. But, um. This nice bearded chap right here.
Starting point is 00:55:29 So this is Danny Polo, the gang detective investigator that undercover, whatever the fuck testified in the YNW. Melly case. That picture right there was brought. up in court and the lawyer said, is this you? He said, yeah, is this you with your wife? Yeah. All right, so why do you need a mask on? Because he claims it's a $50,000 hit on his head.
Starting point is 00:55:53 First off, how do you put a hit on on somebody and you don't know who they are? They put a hit on on you, they know who you are. Right. You know what I mean? Second off, how are you this sloppy? Because it wasn't just the cash app. It was her Gmail account too, had a picture of them.
Starting point is 00:56:08 And then once you figure that out, I mean, you can simply just Google Danny Polo Danny Polo and find out his wife is a real estate agent from Miami and then you see everyone that lives in the household you see the ad all this is public information once again we're speaking on Florida so if you're in that fear for your life why are you so sloppy with everything that's online because then once you start showing and all these pictures you can see it's clearly him the eyes the beard I mean here's another one right here what gang sign is this man I don't know what the fuck that's supposed to be I don't think he knows he said he said he's a fan of
Starting point is 00:56:41 the music. But I mean, this is the first undercover gang detective that I've ever looked into and exposed. And it seemed like really his wife exposed him because she's the one that put the pictures out there. Right. So all of these pictures are publicly available, but they hit his face in the trial for whatever reason because he feels like there's this thing on his head, whatever, whatever, which I don't see true. But at the same time, you decided to put me in the fucking case saying that I'm this and that when that could have an impact on my. personal life so he wants to hide his face but put it on everyone else and then come to find out there's a uh what's that shit called when people try to like do the signatures to make something
Starting point is 00:57:22 happen you know what i'm talking about signatures yeah when they sign it off on some shit what's it called basically he he investigated a case and got a bunch of people hit with a rico okay and a bunch of people were involved that had nothing to actually do with it so he got mad people a petition i think is the word okay so they have a petition against him for the bullshit that he's done as law enforcement we're getting people indicted that had nothing to do with shit there's a lot of stuff on his name I'm come out with a video on him I was just more so waiting for the the trial to be over the witness aspect of it okay so now that that's done I'm gonna start going on this
Starting point is 00:57:59 shit because you know you personally involved me and now you have my undivided attention so I never heard of the G shine bloods is this just total mystery to you or where is he getting that information it's at a confidential source That could have been a crackhead in Broward County. That could have been Pino. Right. I don't know. You think Pino hates you that much?
Starting point is 00:58:16 They would be still presently snitching on you? Yeah, because somebody else that knows him recently got picked up, and they said that they got asked questions that only Pito would know. So there's a lot of weird shit with him. Interesting, because Pino DM me today and said, ask Jake why he is scared to rematch me, MMA style since he wants to cap and say that we pulled guns on him. When did I say that?
Starting point is 00:58:38 When did we fight MMA-style? No, he says he wants to rematch and he wants it to be in a rematch. That means we've done it before. When do we do that before? Well, we've all seen the video you guys fighting. Well, because he came out here and said what though when you asked him if something was involved? What did he tell you? Did he say that there was a gun involved?
Starting point is 00:58:55 It's been a while. It's been a while. You said something on your podcast though. You asked him if there was something involved. I think you set weapons and he gave you an answer. Right. I didn't give you an answer. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:04 So if we didn't do it, M.M.A. The first time, why are we do it now? But second off, you broke as a bitch right now working with the Salvation. Salvation Army not making nothing struggling living with your moms again while I'm over here doing what I'm doing so why would I even give you the clout of doing that I'm not gonna get paid for that yeah it's always weird when somebody wants to arrange like a celebrity boxing match and one person is decidedly not really a celebrity's no event subpoena or anything but you would be elevating your
Starting point is 00:59:33 op to a much different pedestal right yeah homie chill out right everyone else's career went up and you stayed where you at. Yeah. You know. What do you think, what separates you from all the prison YouTubers who are kind of like from that same time period? Like what do you think it is about you that let you elevate past all that? All I mean, there's still a few that's, that's going crazy.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Christina Randall is a female prison YouTuber from Florida and she was one of the main people helped me out behind the scenes. Really? And she's also one of the ones that told me early on, watch who's trying to benefit from you. and that you know a lot of the stuff that we spoke on really helped me out but um i think the biggest thing for me was i kept elevating and adding new things because if you stay the same people are going to get tired of it so it's i didn't want to stick to doing the same shit i kept
Starting point is 01:00:24 adding new things i saw the genre was dying out early on because now everybody's talking about this story so i started getting into the rap shit there's only so much to say about prison yeah I mean, it gets old quick, but the rap shit is really what I feel like kind of kicked my way into the industry because now I'm affiliated with like I, it went from Pino to Boston Richie, finesse two times, fucking Grito. Right. These names are on a completely different level now. Yeah. You know what I mean? So because he's still thinking about me. I'm over here doing this. When you, when you do prison type stuff, it's like everybody's anonymous in it for the most part. There's a bunch of random guys and then you get to the rap stuff and it's like, oh, you got crazy.
Starting point is 01:01:04 crazy bullshit going on and these people are famous and influential and people actually really care about it's on a different level yeah the shit I mean bro what was that like three years ago something like yeah imagine still being the guy that wants the from three years ago yeah what I will say about you too though is that you've always taken a quality over quantity approach a lot of people just hop on live stream and just babble and just we'll spend an hour reading random donations and they're just talking and it's just like it's bad content it's badly put together it doesn't show respect for the audience you have always put out these nice clean crisp 10 15 minute videos that are like they're made for people to to view and to you know appreciate and that goes a long way when so many other people
Starting point is 01:01:49 like just don't really have it the intelligence or whatever to make the stuff watchable right i appreciate that yeah i mean i try to put an effort into what i do yeah you know and it just so happens that like I accidentally ended up being good at this shit because I never intended on being a YouTuber right so now that I know I'm good at it like not trying to sound cocky but I try to put out the best shit that I can do you have other ideas for content that you'd like to make at some point or is it I don't even want to really do this snitch and shit anymore honestly like once I get a million subscribers I'm really on some other shit so I kind of just want to hit that milestone because that's like a big achievement for me
Starting point is 01:02:29 get the gold plaque. I'd be interested and even have my own podcast. I want to stream, live stream. Yeah, because I was just thinking about that with a live stream and stuff. I was surprised you haven't really taken that leap. The stream is hitting.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Yeah. So I want to set that up in the background and get something going with that at the same time. But I just want to keep expanding. Yeah. If I just stay doing the same thing I'm doing, eventually it's going to die out. But if I keep expanding and making it bigger and bigger,
Starting point is 01:02:53 hopefully I can have my own no jump of live TV. What I will say, though, it can be hard to balance streaming and also making like high quality video content. Like, you know, if you wake up and you spend 10 hours or 12 hours on a video and then you also want to be the guy who's spending two or three hours on Twitch just talking. Well, this is the thing.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Like, I'm a gamer. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can fucking stream that. What else you put? What do you play? You know what I mean? Everything with a gun. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:03:17 Everything. I don't play none of the sports shit. It's got a gunning in them on it. Really? So even with that, I'll be playing with people online. They're like, you know, what the fuck are you doing playing this? I'm like, bro, this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:29 It's hard to fake that voice. And then people want to, you know what I mean? Like, yo, bro, why don't you stop streaming this shit? This shit will go crazy. Right. And it's just, like, I'll put a clip up on my fucking Instagram. Everyone's hit me. Yo, let's do this.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Let's do this. So I just want to get in the different aspects. I want to vlog, travel vlogs, all that. Right. Because this whole street shit, snitch and shit is really kind of fucking annoying. Yeah. It's weird, too, though, because, like, you know, YouTube always has just these different waves of shit happening. And like a couple years ago, it's like the gang content just became so much more popular.
Starting point is 01:04:03 And you had channels start blowing up like swamp stories, whatever. And there's still an appetite for that stuff. But it's maybe not quite what it was. So sort of like providing like an overview of like different things that have gone on the streets. Well, that's the thing, bro, is I was covering a lot of deaths, a lot of murder cases. That shit gets exhausting when all you're thinking about is who got smacked today. Like that shit the fuck. I like the snitching's a little more positive.
Starting point is 01:04:27 no one's dead you know what i mean versus just having to fucking graphically describe someone's death and read the report and yeah the bullet entered here and exited here and the splatter and the police found it and fucking it's not that good for your mental to just non-stop talk about that shit you know yeah the other day i tried to find a video i forget why but i was trying to like find some video about some gang beef and it was something like the neighborhood versus the hoover thing and so i typed into youtube like neighborhood rolling 60s versus hoover's and i And I found like a hundred videos that are about the history of this rivalry and I'm like this is got to be like one of the most well-worn niches in in you know YouTube like to just talk about this beef and it's like there's probably hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of murders that you could talk about in regards to that not to mention fights and all kinds of situations
Starting point is 01:05:17 just the Chicago. Oh my God. Yes. It's fucking crazy. Yeah. And that's that's why I feel like a lot of rappers want to a lot of people had that get rich a diet trying mentality. So it's like, why do you want to rap about killing? And you know, the risk that comes with it. It's like, well, because look, everyone's blowing up. Yeah. You know, if I catch a body and beat the body, I'm going to be in the next trap geek video or Trappler Ross.
Starting point is 01:05:40 And I'm going to be fucking, you know, going crazy. How do you feel a trapolo Ross? I fought with him. Yeah. Yeah. He's great. I see sharp trashing him the other day. I was kind of surprised.
Starting point is 01:05:49 I don't know nothing about that situation. Um, a lot of people feel a certain type of way. I feel like if there was YouTube awards, he definitely deserves one for the way the King Vaughn documentary came out. A lot of people just bullshit themselves. I mean, if you talked about killing multiple people, you're tied into multiple murders, every bit of a fucking killer beat a body, this and that. The biggest thing about your image was the fact that you were killing people. And then someone else is going to be like, no, he wasn't a killer.
Starting point is 01:06:23 He was a good kid. When? When the fuck did he ever talk about playing football? Right. You know what I mean? Like that was his image. Yeah. So to say it wasn't is a discredit to everything he lived and died for.
Starting point is 01:06:35 That's what he wanted to be, a fucking demon. Yeah. That's what he was. That's why people like him. Vaughn tweeted about that shit so much that the idea that there's anything wrong with people then taking those tweets and taking the lyrics and then making content out of it. It's like, of course someone was going to do that. Rappers call other rappers pussy that have security, right? because they want the opportunity to get to you.
Starting point is 01:06:56 So when they criticize Traplow Ross, you're white, you're from the UK, you've never been over here. All right, well, if he was black from over here in the hood, he would already got killed for doing what he's doing. So what do you want him to do, die? I don't understand. Like you're saying he's doing it from a safe?
Starting point is 01:07:15 Yeah, that's why he is who he is. He's safely covering this shit and putting it together beautifully for everybody to fucking watch. But we've seen what happens to Zach TV. You know, we see how these certain situations play out. People want you to be accessible so they can get rid of you. And if they can't get access to you, they're going to criticize you for that fact.
Starting point is 01:07:36 But that's one thing that kind of shocks me is that so for people like me and academics, we're kind of like early on reporting on shit that was going on in the street and everything. And the criticism was always you guys are outsiders. You're not really from Chicago. You're not really from these places. so therefore you have an opinion about it or reporting on it. It's kind of disingenuous. It's gross.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Whatever. You see now with academics, he doesn't stamp anything. He's like the mediator, which I'm sure he learned that from the Warren Shy rack. The Warren Shy rack, he's giving people crazy-ass nicknames and stamping him as the grim reaper and this and that. So it's kind of like the situation that I'm in right now. Well, I'm stamping who's ratting. You know what I mean? It puts yourself in a position and you become the bad guy.
Starting point is 01:08:22 become the villain in the genre oh he's the one saying this and saying this and saying that so with academics now academics doesn't call anyone a rat he's what do y'all think he'll show you everything and then he'll say what do you all think so that way it doesn't blow back on him he's just reacting to it versus if he was stamping it how i'm stamping it he'd get the same reaction right you know what i mean but that's just most likely he learned that from the blowback he got from the warren shirek Yeah. And the Warren Shirek, though, he was being a little too lighthearted about a lot of that stuff. You know, he was just having fun with it and not acting like it was these are real people or real consequences, you know? I mean, I was watching that shit. Yeah, me too. But when I've like seen small clips of it in recent memory and it's like, oh yeah, that is kind of fucked up.
Starting point is 01:09:07 No, I used to always think that in the back of my head too, though, like, who the fuck is this? Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, because if you're anonymous, you can say whatever the fuck you want, you know? Well, that's the thing about the kid that tried to say that I was a snitch is he's anonymous. You know what I'm saying? There's a reason he's still anonymous. Right. And then the fact that he made a video saying, I'm this and I'm that, and then he deleted it, but let everyone else run off with the narrative.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Right. It just speaks for itself. But, okay, even just Chicago, like, me and Ack would get that criticism. You guys are not from here. Now in Chicago, the two most popping interviewers are DJU and 16 shot him. It's pretty reasonable to say. They're both very much, like, from that place, that culture more than me or Ack. And so as a result, they ask questions in interviews that offer like a knowledge of what's going on in the streets that's way deeper than me or AC would necessarily know.
Starting point is 01:09:59 And I'm like, okay, so these are two guys who are from this place and they end up doing an even more extreme version of the shit that me or AC were doing because they really are from there and they're driven by the same incentives that we are. They're just closer to the ground level. So they're able to know more shit. So the same thing that I get shit for and people say, I'm an outsider or whatever, it's like, When you offer up these same incentives to people who are actually from there, they're going to end up doing an even more extreme portrayal of that culture, right? Yeah, I mean, a lot of referees don't play the sport. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:31 So it's like, you know, they know everything about it. They know how to make calls on situations. We don't rap. We don't rap. You know, in a different world, if people were a little bit dumber, they would say, like, how dare Adam and Jacob have opinions on this shit when they don't even rap? Yeah, because we're white. But I used to get that shit.
Starting point is 01:10:47 That's really the problem. Well, that didn't stop Millies. Not Millie's got criticism too He got criticism the same way anyone else does Yeah especially when me and him linked up Oh yeah, I mean, but shout out the bro because he got real one standing behind him Mm-hmm you know what I'm saying he get love where he from he shows love back to where he's from I don't know if you're interested, but I know he's doing a sneaker give back I think it's at the end of the month
Starting point is 01:11:09 Really? Um if you want to get in contact with him about that they're giving away sneakers to the kids in the hood But he really be tapped in where he's at he really got love where he's at and then you got bum-ass Boston rappers that are 30 40 years old never done shit with their career and oh fuck him he's white he's got haters out there now everybody does though yeah you're not gonna find success without that yeah so it's like if you're not bringing people up with you or like you know you're bringing your people up but if there's always gonna be salty ass people up people just ain't gonna like you because they don't got the motion that you got it just it's a part of it bro yeah definitely i'm used to it all i know is i don't never have no negative interactions in person right matter
Starting point is 01:11:49 when I fucking caught these sneakers in the mall in Cambridge where he's from I ran into a BPS homie and a paroo okay inside of the fucking uh little hat store whatever walked on what's up oh yeah BPA he from out here like his hood from out here you know what I mean mad love first quarter take pictures all that right I don't have negative interactions in person it's always love 99% of the people that come up to me a black yeah but you look at the internet you would get a different perspective oh yeah and that's a weird thing like the first time you get canceled or the first time you have like a hate mob on you you think that you're going to go to the grocery store and everybody's going to be mad at you and then you realize like oh wait
Starting point is 01:12:26 I might have read a thousand comments about me today but this shit doesn't usually turn into real life energy yeah I mean the only thing I can say is like I know I've done videos on people so I'll have people come up to me but yeah you did a video on my friend da-da-da-da-da I'm like all right what that mean it's a good one or a bad one yeah I don't know it's good I just I don't know the intention my saying something like that but i've never had a negative interaction when we did the live show you were fully out there embracing everybody having conversations with everybody but it did stand out that like this was the first time that you would really put yourself in front of that many fans of you but also in your city yeah how's that memory stand out to you that's just raw
Starting point is 01:13:14 that was sick yeah i still got uh the t-shirt oh yeah from the show show in the rapper and everything yeah yeah I'll be keeping like little memorable things you know what I'm saying but that shit was crazy that was the first time I was on stage the second time I was on stage was that Millie show mm he just brought you out as like a special guest and shit yeah that's sick fucking backstage met Paul Wall met a couple of other people and then fucking brought me out on the stage shouted me out all that shit bro this love for real yeah that show was dope I ain't never did nothing like that and I keep like a little memorable thing from like each like I still got the other backstage pass from the
Starting point is 01:13:51 millies concert right I fuck with bro so it's like but that is the weird thing too is that if there was somebody who was burnt out enough that they would want to do something physical to you as a result of shit that you said online they're gonna get pop shot stabbed all type of shit because I keep my city you see how I've seen it yeah yeah so my situation is always under control yeah you know what I mean and I hope nobody tries to do some dumb shit because I keep my situation under control but I was to say The types of people who would do something like that are realistically probably not the types of people that are going to go to a live podcast on like a Thursday night or whatever. I feel like it would be somebody that would like come up with a camera or something.
Starting point is 01:14:26 Oh, that's definitely, yeah. Yeah, I don't think it would really be on some like street shit like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I worry about that sometimes. Not going to work, but everywhere I move, I always make sure shit's situated. Definitely. Has you exposing so many people and revealing all these snitches, is that something that makes you want to move even? a little bit more careful. I mean, you're kind of like off tucked away in Boston,
Starting point is 01:14:50 so it's like you're not reporting on people from Boston almost ever. But does that- Well, the thing about Boston and New York is you really can't get paperwork. Really? Yeah. The Commonwealth states, you really don't get shit. Virginia's another one. So it's not that I avoid Boston. It's just that I'm not really able to get the shit. Right. But as far as being tucked away, I mean, I'm still Florida, New York. book. Right. You know, so it's like, I'll be out there, but I don't put myself in certain situations. I don't go looking for shit. Like, the whole reason I never wanted to be a rap
Starting point is 01:15:25 is because I didn't want all the beef that comes with it, but I found myself in the same situation anyway, so I don't know, maybe I just need to drop some songs or something. Well, I think about it sometimes too, because I got all these people around me that can rap real good. And sometimes I think, like, why don't I just get them to help me out, write a song, say a bunch of crazy-ass shit. I got all kinds of stuff in my head. I feel like I could get like a skeleton of a verse from them and then just change the shit. Imagine if I made a disc song on everybody that ratted, that I exposed. It's going to go crazy.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Yeah. It's just going to come with what it comes with. I'll probably get hooked on it crazy because I know the music earns a lot of money too and you can really work on that back catalog. I don't know if I have the voice for it. Try it out. Apparently I have the voice for this, but I don't know if that would translate to like something that people would really want to listen to.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Y'all got a fucking studio. I've seen it. We do. Very few people have recorded music in there, though. get that shit going. I thought about it, but, oh, man. Sometimes I'm just like, I remember when I first started doing hip hop shit, like, content-wise, my mom said to me, she goes, Adam, you got promised me that you're not going to start rapping.
Starting point is 01:16:30 And I was like, Mom, I'm not going to stop. Start rapping. What the fuck? Like, I was just laughing at her. And now here I am considering it. And it's like, I always took that as, like, really good advice from her. But at the same time, I don't know, sometimes, like, just doing the craziest thing possible. I've definitely seen that over the last couple weeks.
Starting point is 01:16:45 Like you just do the craziest thing possible and it gets you a shitload of attention. And then that attention usually converts into something positive even if there's also a lot of criticism that comes with it. Clearly I'm referencing a porn star fucking my bitch. You crazy for that. I'm not going to lie. Everybody's been asking me about that shit. That's wild. Everyone who I've ever known in my whole life is basically telling me like, yo, people are asking me about you left and right.
Starting point is 01:17:13 Like what are we supposed to say for you? He's a porn store. They're not satisfied with that. I know. Like, we need some fucking detailed, you know what I mean? Like, that's, I don't know, that's some crazy shit, though. It's weird because people always want to make it, like, way more interesting. Like, it's not good enough for it to just be like, oh, yeah, like, she did a scene with another porn star.
Starting point is 01:17:32 It has to be like, well, she's cheating on him. The relationship's going to fall apart. You know, he's mad. He's mad as fuck. And it's like, no, like, it actually was, like, just a straight business thing, you know? And apparently she's a very good actress. She was biting the fucking the bed sheet and everything. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:17:47 See, he's so respectful that he don't even want to comment on it or act like you've seen the memes People kill people about shit like that. Yeah A lot of people kill over women. So for you to feel that secure in your relationship As a white man, to hand over her To a BBC, which has been all over that's some crazy shit. No, yeah, it's definitely some crazy shit. I don't think I personally could do that. I don't think most people could. Nah, but that's what set you apart.
Starting point is 01:18:22 Yeah. You got to be willing, if you really want to go truly viral, you have to be willing to do something that other people are so shocked by, they would never even consider it. Isn't that where people say that selling your soul, though? See, I never felt like that. She never felt like that. Like, one time a day or two after she did the scene with them,
Starting point is 01:18:40 I just called her a cheater. And she just looked at me like it was the most shocking allegation. I was just like, you fucking cheater. How do you feel about everybody saying I got next? It's like if you're going to be a porn star in general, you have to be really willing to like kind of roll with the punches and just be willing to joke around about it and stuff like Antonio Brown today. Like because every day that goes by, I think, oh, the media frenzy is going to slow down at some point. The tape is out. So that's like, yeah, the tape is out.
Starting point is 01:19:10 So that's like the beginning of it becoming less of a thing. And then today I look at Twitter and I see Antonio Brown say, Yo, I got next. And he tags me, and I'm like, oh, well, okay. Let me ask you. There it is. Do you think that there's a female that you could fuck that would put you on an equal level? Where it's like you got get back?
Starting point is 01:19:28 I mean, I already fucked so many hot porn stars with her that she already knows about, which is a big part of why I felt all right with it. Like when I find someone, I'm like, damn, she's bad. Then I find out you fucked her. I'm like, damn. Yeah. It kind of does something. I ain't going to lie.
Starting point is 01:19:42 There was a porn star who I actually think is one of the hottest porn stars, and she like this is many years ago she she had a three soon of me and lena and she was eating my ass and it was like we were drinking all day so i i had like terrible midday diarrhea and then she starts eating my ass and i told one of my homies and he actually like said that he has not been able to jerk off to her stuff up everything to me her being a shit eater is kind of hot yeah i'm not mad at it she's a little freak that's why you're adam 22 yeah i got a different disposition. I got a different level of tolerance. I'm still rocking with you. I got the 22. I'm still rocked. Was that intentional that you wore that today? Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:20:21 It's a mirror. You know how much? I spent on it like seven something just to fucking yeah. Damn. Adam 22. The palm tree. I've walked by the Amiri section at a sex fifth a few times. You go broken that bitch. That shit's so fucking expensive. Yeah. And I'm looking at I'm like a lot of this stuff is a little too loud for me. I don't think I got it in me. Yeah, I'd be buying that shit, not even asking that I fucking go home and cry about it. Really? but I like it though how much the most you ever blown on clothes at once I don't know to be honest yeah nothing too crazy yeah when I did the skit pretending to buy her the Lambo truck got into it oh you didn't buy that no no but uh which is crazy because like the New York
Starting point is 01:20:59 Post reported on it today I thought you bought that no I was a joke but I was actually at like a pretty famous rental car spot in LA too so I was like this has got a you fucking cloud chasing yeah yeah that was my idea and that was one of the things that went the most viral was me pretending to buy that shit but i sat in it for a second and i was like i could see myself driving this this thing's kind of hard i didn't do some shit like that before i got a picture on my instagram when i got my silver plaque i bought some silver jordan's and i got them from some sneakers fucking thing or whatever and um when i got them there was a scuff on one of them okay and i'm like i'm not paying for this because they were expensive and the tags were still on them but they were on
Starting point is 01:21:40 one sneaker. So when I took the picture, I took the picture with the sneaker that looked good. That didn't have the tags on it. I put the plaque next to it. And then right after I took the picture, I returned the bitches. So I still got my picture. I didn't have to pay shit. Yeah. It's just so easy to troll the media at a certain point. Once they realize that your name is ringing bells and you actually are going to be a draw and you're going to get clicks, then it's like their filter for you lying just kind of like goes way down and they're just down to post whatever about you because they know it's going to work. And like if you watch that video like her reaction to get in the Lambo truck is like like it's so obvious
Starting point is 01:22:17 This is not a real thing yeah, but you know people don't really think about all I don't think I even watch the whole video I just seen you heard the Lambo and then I remember it was right after the whole jason love shit. I was like oh my god yeah you're just given her the world Yeah, now that's my baby for sure I got no hard feelings about her I was sick yesterday she's taking care of me like the most loyal fucking servant possible and I was just thinking I'm like this is what people need to see they need to know how tight me and her really are they got to see this side of thing yeah so maybe that's the next step man what's so I'm ready to drop one of these fucking bombs yeah okay what else you got you know what I want to get into the Grito thing first might as well okay let's do it so I'm gonna I got fucking banned from LA apparently so I'll lay out how this took place from my perspective goredo has a former manager from his hood, a homie of his, who he was always rolling with early on in his career. So I was around him a few times as a result of them being super tight. And then at a certain point, they had to falling out. I don't even know the details of how all that played out.
Starting point is 01:23:22 But I believe that they tried to get into contact with Grito. When Grito got released, Grito wasn't really fucking with him. So they hit me up and they say, yo, Adam, we got paperwork that proves that Grito's a snitch. I say to them, I don't really do that, you know, Like, I don't expose people for snitching. If it's already out there, if there's a whole conversation about it, then I could perhaps have a conversation about it. But I'm not going to be the one who stamps this paperwork and says that it's legit.
Starting point is 01:23:50 But I told them if you want to, like, get it verified or not verified. Like, if you want to find out if it's legit, I can give you 1090 Jake's number because he's pretty much the guy right now that would be the one who people are going to listen to about if this shit is real or not. So I put you guys in touch. and then there was a period of a couple weeks where I didn't hear anything about it and then you end up making the video about them.
Starting point is 01:24:12 So what made you actually feel confident that the paperwork that they were showing you was valid? All right, so I'm glad you put that out there too because nobody knows how I got in contact with those specific people. Right. The point in time where nothing was going on was just me trying to get the paperwork.
Starting point is 01:24:33 So they were able to send it over to me. I was able to read everything. Normally when people fake paperwork, they fake a page. This was 26 pages and then like another 20 pictures. So it was pictures from the search of the vehicle showing the meth, the guns, the car of itself, where they hit the meth. I'm reading everything. I'm like, bro, this ain't the same fake. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:25:07 It's got the man's social security number on it. It's got his address. It's got his tattoos on his body. It's got all this information. It's got the fucking offices, names, badge numbers, everything. So I'm like, nah, this is official. You know what I'm saying? So I did the video on it.
Starting point is 01:25:25 And I was honestly surprised that I knew there was going to be people on both sides. I was surprised that they said that paperwork doesn't count. because it's an arrest report. Mm-hmm. I'm like, what the fucking mean? It doesn't count. And then he'd never said it was really fake. He said whether it's real or fake, whatever, whatever he said, you know?
Starting point is 01:25:48 And we never had a back and forth. It wasn't like he said anything, I don't think he said anything disrespectful when you interviewed him. Grito about you? Yeah. No, not really. He never did. I don't think I've ever said anything disrespectful. Because Katie kind of tried to smear you and act like you were a fucked up dude.
Starting point is 01:26:03 And then Grito- Listen, I'm gonna get on that bitch in a second. But Grito kind of jumped in. and was basically had to acknowledge that he as a gangster can't hold it against you trying to expose snitches because you're doing something that gangsters would appreciate. He as a gangster wouldn't come on here and say it's a problem if it is a problem.
Starting point is 01:26:22 You know, so it goes both ways. At the same time, bro on parole, your freedom's more important than anything. You can't get tricked out of the street. He'd be stupid to come up here and be like, oh yeah, when we see 1090 J, you know. And I've gotten messages from a lot of people his hood either one way or another so I don't know what the fuck it is it's not like I have a
Starting point is 01:26:43 plan on going over there to begin with but um my whole thing was if it ain't the truth I'm gonna find out what the truth is and they they said that the paperwork wasn't real whatever doesn't count so what I did is I sent in a request for the paperwork um and I got it all 26 pages. And it's pretty much the exact same thing that was sent to me by the other grapes. Okay. So this is from the Potter County Sheriff's Office. Let me make sure there's not nothing that you don't want to put out there that's crazy or whatever. But I have everything regarding the case. I'm not going to show you this page by page, but the statements are all in here. The statement I was given in the back of the police cars saying, damn, man, we fucked up, we fucked up.
Starting point is 01:27:37 And then the interview with the DEA agent, where his co-defendant said, you know, I'm not going to talk. O3 Greta was like, yeah, I got paid $3,000 to travel with him. I felt like something illegal was going on. It's all in here and was sent by the sheriff's department. So anybody can request this from the sheriff's department. And the thing about this is they said, oh, it's fake because that's not court paperwork. he said he's going to request his discovery this report would be in his discovery the only difference is it's going to have the court seals on it because you're getting it from the courthouse so they're sending you a copy from the courthouse this is the copy from the sheriff's department this same fucking thing's going to be there now he said he was going to get the video i requested the video the body cam footage um and the interrogation and like i said the retention period they said it doesn't exist So if he's able to get that, it's going to be from the DA and whatever he's going to show is what he's going to show.
Starting point is 01:28:41 At the end of the day, the most bad thing about that was the interview with the DEA. That's what's really going to make the difference. I don't know if he can get that or will get that. But Katie, so I guess Katie was the paralegal because her father is one of the biggest lawyers in Texas. Right. And she had a lot of hurtful things to say about me online. Right. And she brought up a lot of things that I found contradictions in.
Starting point is 01:29:14 So Katie, like you know, shot a homeless man. Right. For getting too close to a Porsche or whatever it was, got an attempted murder charge. And I'm assuming because of her father ended up with probation. So this man right here, let me find his name. So she took a plea deal? She didn't beat the case.
Starting point is 01:29:38 Oh, okay. I mean, I'm assuming it was a plea, right? Because who the fuck goes to trial for attempted murder and leaves with probation? Right. That sounds kind of crazy, right? Yeah. But Ben Crump, who's a civil rights attorney, he had some things to say about her. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:29:57 Along the lines of calling out, oh, yeah, a white girl with a lawyer daddy doesn't get any time for attempted murder. Right. she sues him for $40 million. What is libelous about him saying that? Man, fuck that. Listen to this, right? She sues him for 40 mil, but she was up here when y'all talked saying,
Starting point is 01:30:18 oh, they grabbed Grito because he's a black man, and this was before George Floyd when anyone gave a fuck. But the same black man you suing for $40 million is the head of the defense for George Floyd's family. So doesn't that tie in a little bit weird that the same case you're referencing, you're suing the legal defense for that man? It doesn't really add up. I was kind of a shocked that she mentioned George Floyd by name like at least three times during that conversation. I'm going to let you read this because I don't want to get sued because this bitch loves the sue.
Starting point is 01:30:55 This is what I did not have it in my heart to read that title out from Daily Mail that anybody can Google. I already seen this on your Instagram story. no, I'm not breaking any news, but photographs of Porsche driving lawyer daughter who shot, lawyer's daughter, who shot a homeless man in self-defense, appears on website advertising herself as an $800 an hour escort and stripper. She is facing attempted murder charges for shooting Gerald Melton in Nashville on August 26th, and her lawyer father said that she was like, oh, that's about the shooting, yeah. And then this is the actual ad on the escort website.
Starting point is 01:31:32 Now, mind you, this could be somebody using her pictures. Right. So we got to give her the benefit of the doubt. You know what I mean? Maybe this isn't her selling pussy for 800. But the fact that all this ties in, it doesn't end with that. Apparently, in 2013, she was arrested for assaulting her mother, but all charges would drop, most likely because of the dad, I'm assuming. Quackenbush.
Starting point is 01:31:53 She called me a wigger, but she had a rap video out. Really? That got taken down from YouTube on her own page. seen above in a video where she wraps her song ski tips up hose down yeah so she went from a rapper to a country singer an alleged escort and then yeah the suing shit i mean she's all over the fucking place with it so you know the thing about court right if i got somebody that's going to speak on my behalf that would be like a credible witness so the second she said anything the internet assumed oh she must be a real attorney right she must be this she
Starting point is 01:32:32 must be that but then you go on google and find out who she is is this still a credible witness right everyone you the fuck hold on you sued a black guy after you shot a homeless guy for being whatever on some caring shit and then you're allegedly selling pussy there was another article saying she threatened to hit a baby with a break a baby there's a lot of shit on this girl so it's like i don't know why the fuck she was so comfortable speaking out when i can find all this shit right and then this is where she slipped up when y'all spoke. O3 Grito denied the $3,000 statement. She said when you were speaking to her,
Starting point is 01:33:11 oh, the only thing he said about $3,000, and then she stopped herself, and then she changed the topic. So she mentions it, but then she caught herself. So it's like, at this point, I'm not going to keep making content on that situation. I don't give a fuck if he's good or not in his own hood. members of his own hood sent the shit to me how I view it is if there's a problem with that
Starting point is 01:33:36 then you solve that within your inner circle right the fact that it made it to my doorstep you put me in contact with whoever it got to me y'all figure that out with them right but i'm a stand on no you can publicly get all this shit it's available so i mean i grito's defense basically of himself seemed to be that he said that he didn't make those statements that they were that are written in the paperwork now they are written in the paperwork but it's like the statement was basically that this was that there's no evidence that he actually said these things that the police could have been oversimplifying or just lying about what he said yeah you know what my problem with that is is i'll show somebody in arrest report right and i'll be
Starting point is 01:34:18 like is this your social security number i did this with pino when i found out he snitch is this your social yeah is this your address yeah is this your mother yeah did you get arrested on this day yeah you got arrested for this yeah you snitch you snitch you right here? Nah. So everything else is fucking right, except the shit you don't like. That's how I view it. Because they didn't know he was a rapper. For whatever reason, he decided to say, I'm a rapper. When he got pulled over. So it's not like they know who he is and they're trying to trump some shit up. And she's saying it was because he's black and this and that and its country is fuck over there. And they're all racist. But then she's suing civil rights,
Starting point is 01:34:53 lawyers and George Floyd's legal. Yeah, that's what I found confusing about what she was saying. She's saying like they were pulled over because he's black. Maybe, but people get pulled over all the time. I think he would have been better off having his actual attorney speak out instead of her. Right. But with his situation, he said he's going to get the video. But were you saying that the video is not available to me? That you tried to get it and it wasn't available.
Starting point is 01:35:18 Yeah, but you can, I haven't requested it through the DA. I don't know if the DA still have it. So with all these body cam, footages that come out, all that shit, those are requests. to the police departments or the sheriff's office right the island boys that was through the sheriff's office because all county jails are run by the sheriffs right it's the county so when you get locked up they bring you in there everything in there is involved in the county so you're going to reach out to the county to get that video the county does not have the arrest footage of o3 grito anymore so if his if the d a doesn't have it the district attorney it doesn't exist right because this was like
Starting point is 01:35:57 almost 10 years ago right yeah it was a while ago well i mean if it's in evidence like with pino shit i got that from the da they keep it forever oh okay if i hit up the police department that arrested him they wouldn't have it you think katie's kind of bad you know fuck no she followed me on instagram i was looking her page i follow her on instagram didn't look too bad i think we're cool i think 800 is fair she sent me a whole bunch of shit like you know saying things about me and i just sent her a little you know but we follow each other oh you follow her back i didn't follow She followed me and I followed her back. Yeah. I tried it. She'll send me messages going crazy. I'll just go like a post. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:35 Trying to, you know. I don't know. Yeah, man. With the Grito thing too, it's like part of his defense was basically like, why would I say these things? It would not make sense for me to have said these things. Exactly. That's why we're questioning why the fucking said. That's the fucking point. Yeah. And they're like, oh, but he didn't give a name. You don't have to give a name. Right. What fucking mean? Who did it? I didn't give a name. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:58 You know what I'm saying? Why the fuck would you say you felt like something illegal was going on? You got paid $3,000 to drive somewhere with somebody. But then his other thing to say that his co-defendant basically did like no time and then he got 20 years and did five years, right? The first time offender. He didn't have an arrest history. So Pino's defense was, oh, my co-defendants only got probation. I went to prison.
Starting point is 01:37:16 You had already been to prison. They never got in trouble with the law. But so Grito already, it says it in the paperwork that the officers saw Grito has a history. of weapon-related offenses. It doesn't say anything about that with the co-defendant. So the co-defendant gets probation and you get time in prison. If you're a felon, you get caught with a gun. That can become a Fed case.
Starting point is 01:37:36 But, okay, he got caught with pounds of meth and multiple stolen guns. Four pounds of meth, two stolen guns. But that's not going to get you probation, even if it's your first offense, right? I would think. I mean, I don't know. If you got the rawest fucking lawyer in Texas who's getting his daughter off on an attempted murder charge, you never know. Money talks.
Starting point is 01:37:55 Yeah. Another thing I have in question is I saw his co-defendant come up here and say what he said, but he's in two recordings saying otherwise. Saying that's, he was saying what I thought. Why the fuck would you say some weird shit? Like you got paid to do this and that. And apparently there was a rumor that Grito was trying to allege that the co-defendant was snitching. But the co-defendant came up here and said otherwise.
Starting point is 01:38:19 Boston Richie's co-defendant went on say cheese and said otherwise. My whole thing is, like I said, I don't care, but I'm going to stand on what I do as a job. I don't put out fake shit. I'm not saying something or alleging towards something because I just pulled it out of nowhere. It exists. It's right there. Anyone can get it. A lot of people don't want to get it.
Starting point is 01:38:42 A lot of people are looking for the truth with their eyes closed. Right. I can't help you with that, you know? Well, okay, let's put in perspective, though. What we're talking about Grito doing was basically. allegedly saying a few boneheaded things during the process of being arrested, right? You can't really put this on the level of some of the other snitching stuff that we've talked about. When you compare it to the level of other people, you're trying to downgrade what he said, right?
Starting point is 01:39:03 But what you can do is try to break down the definition of snitching. When two people commit a crime and one person tries to get out of it by placing blame, that's generally what people say is snitching. So with Grito saying to a DEA agent, I felt like something where it was going. going on. I felt like something illegal was going on is what I think he exactly said. I didn't know about any of the meth of the guns, but I got paid $3,000 to drive from Vegas to Texas with him. What are you alleging? Yeah, I don't really. Put it in perspective at him. What are you alleging? I mean, his main argument was that he didn't say it. Gunner got pulled over in a car with Doug.
Starting point is 01:39:48 They found some shit in the car. Police said, is this your was to Gunna? He said, they ain't mine. people say gun is a rat for that because if it ain't yours it must be thugs what's the difference with this case if that's all that Grito said though I don't even think we'd be having this conversation right now alleged if he if that's all that he allegedly said because I'm not trying to close the door on no fact yeah I mean bro if he comes out with a video sitting with the DA and he's like I want a lawyer I'm not saying shit all right I'm gonna go with it yeah they must have lied yeah you know I mean but if that doesn't come out what else do we have to go off
Starting point is 01:40:23 his word so you've heard from grito directly or you've just had like associates to his tap in with you being upset about uh no i've never spoke to grito okay i don't even know if they're his associates i just a bunch of dms from people with grape emojis i don't know none of them and see that's the weird thing too is because people say so and so like people from his hood say that he's a snitch that sounds very very damning but he clearly has people defending him and people who are against someone that's close to him hit me up and we didn't we didn't speak on no bullshit. He was like, yo, if it's real is real, motherfuckers gonna stand on it,
Starting point is 01:40:56 but I've never seen it. So I sent everything to him. And we didn't speak after that. Right. You know, like, I'm not really trying to keep up the date with the shit. Yeah. Because I got, bro, that you introduced me to, he'll still hit me up. And he's like, yeah, we're doing this and I'm like, all right, but I'm not really invested in it. Like, I'm not going to
Starting point is 01:41:12 promote a smear campaign. I'm just going to cover the paperwork. It's weird, too, because people initially were trying to act like, this is why he got out in five years instead of 20. No, I think that has to do with the percentage of how much time you got to do in Texas. Right.
Starting point is 01:41:28 All right. I guess if we're going to get into any more cases, we should probably talk about one of the most shockingly, obviously guilty situations, which would be the Rich Army Kwan one. I met him a few months back. Did the interview. Seemed like a nice guy. But the audio that came out of him, to me, it doesn't seem like there's really like a past.
Starting point is 01:41:52 for him to justify in any way. And I don't think that he has said anything on social media since this came out. I don't think so. How did you feel when you saw it? He's fucked. Yeah, what's crazy is like, I didn't even know that he was claiming blood.
Starting point is 01:42:05 So when I had to, you know, go watch videos and this and that, I see him piecing up and doing this. I'm like, you know, people are trying to give him a pass. Like, was he really a gangster? It's like, if you're shaking up and throwing the shit up, then, yeah, what comes with it comes with it? he flat the fuck out told and that's what made me look at it crazy you know no disrespect but his manager made a video speaking on me and it's like why are you speaking on me when young
Starting point is 01:42:33 thug allegedly was flaming the fuck out of y'all like i don't understand he got shot at his dad got shot then something else got shot up and you want to talk about me why aren't you you know what i mean like they really fucking y'all up over they pick and choose their fights right on Instagram I well yeah I guess he doesn't want to talk about thug because that's what fucking happens yeah but it's just like well you can't talk about street shit or you can't talk about murders and shit but you can call out of you the manager the manager made a video saying everybody snitched before mother what are you talking about this is how you defend your eyes that was a mind-blowing statement
Starting point is 01:43:10 equivalent of finesse two times moms defending him nobody should defend you except you because when other people start speaking up it just makes shit look even fucking worse I don't know why rich home his manager decided to speak it should have just been him. If he stood on it, he'd probably still have some type of fan base. I mean, his career, I don't really remember it really hitting like that anyway. And then right when that shit came out, I think it was either right when it came out or when I dropped my video on it, he was performing that night.
Starting point is 01:43:39 With Bousie. Well, Bousie was there. I don't know if it was with Bucy. I'm not going to put Bucy, you know. We just imagine that it might have been an awkward conversation. They might have been in the same fucking building because Kodak, And Boston Richie performed at Drusky shit. Right.
Starting point is 01:43:54 But from what I heard, Kodak completely avoided Boston Richie and people were yelling out Boston Snitchie from the audience. So they were in the same building, but I'm not going to say they performed together. You know what I'm saying? Right. But Rich Homi, I don't know. He played.
Starting point is 01:44:07 He fucked up. Yeah. I mean, the question that I had basically was like, why was Rich Homi even in this situation where he was giving this statement about Thug? Like, does he have the kind of relationship with the cops that he could just get a call and go down to the station. People are so fucking retarded, right? Because they're like, oh, you can tell that ain't speaking to the police
Starting point is 01:44:27 because you can hear shit in the background. Somebody was playing the audio on a phone while recording it with another phone. That's why you hear shit in the background. Everything he said is in transcripts. It's been written out. Who the fuck is wasting their time like that? Right.
Starting point is 01:44:44 You know what I'm saying? So it's like, to me, there's nothing that he can argue. Apparently, this shit's from like 2016 to 17, and they hit up the manager trying to extort him on some A pay us, or we're going to drop this. And he was like, y'all going to drop it anyway. But just the fact that they felt like they could extort you just shows the type of respect level they have for you. I don't know why you making videos about me and everybody over there is trying you. But that's how it played out. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:45:15 But this is part of like a bigger problem, right? where in Atlanta, or I guess it's not a problem, depending how you think about it, but where in Atlanta, it seems like there's a ton of shit leaking out of the police department there and that this could potentially be put in cases in jeopardy? Yeah. Well, this is the thing about that, right, is I've been told that the DA is trying to crack down on who's getting what and how things are getting released because it ain't as simple as, like, requests.
Starting point is 01:45:40 People are actually releasing big shit. What comes with that is you release something on a, witness that's potentially going to testify and now they don't want to testify, you can charge that person that fucked that up with whatever the charge is tampering with a witness. Right. Now if you tamper with a witness in a homicide case, you can be punished to the same effect as the homicide. So think about that.
Starting point is 01:46:09 Somebody kills somebody. You go fuck with that witness. Now you're facing life because it's a murder case. So. And so if you leak like a If you work for the police department and you leak stuff that ends up having a... Look at the situation with YNW. Melly, right? We just showed who the detective is.
Starting point is 01:46:26 Right. If I had did that before he testified and before his mask was taken off, because they made him take the mask off in court, right? Right. Say I got that information and dropped it beforehand. And then he said, oh, I'm not comfortable testifying now because 1090 Jake exposed who I am. Imagine if I got hit with tampering with a witness in a capital case. Now I'm facing life.
Starting point is 01:46:47 Isn't that crazy? At least you're like taking that into consideration because I could imagine a less adept YouTuber not thinking about that and revealing that kind of shit. That's why I look into things and strategically do certain shit. But it's just like in that situation
Starting point is 01:47:01 you know, they already made him take the mask off and then they revealed it in court how he found his picture. And all I had to do was listen and then do it. Looks like it already got revealed. So have you even had legal issues
Starting point is 01:47:13 since you started this career? Not yet. Knock on wood. It's real wood. Yeah, because that's always like, there's like the time in your career before you start getting sued and then there's the time after you start getting sued when you start to realize. Well, this is the thing, right? I'm exposing rap is for snitching. How's it going to look if you sue me right after?
Starting point is 01:47:30 Right. What the fuck? And that's the first thing that, uh, Katie fucking Quak and Bush, whatever. Quackenbush is like one of the illest names ever. Listen. So right after the O3 Grito shit came out, he said something and then she said something about suing. I'm like, I'm getting sued by Othregrito. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:47:47 And then I reposted that and then immediately She deleted all the posts. Right. It's like you can't, how are you going to? Same thing Boston Ritchie said, oh yeah, my lawyer was talking about suing them and this and that. How's that going to look for you? Right. It's kind of like, you know?
Starting point is 01:48:00 It's actually harder to sue somebody than most people probably assume. Yeah, and you're going to pay a lot of fucking money. Yeah. Even if you have NDAs on somebody, it's hard to sue them unless there's like a demonstrable, like, effect to the business, which can be pretty complicated and difficult to prove. So what about the Kelpie shit? Kelby signed on the dotted line so
Starting point is 01:48:21 Before that though you think he could have got a bag Yeah So he would have been hanging out right now When that happened We went into just well I'll just admit it now We went into destroy evidence mode Yeah So that like the cops could have raided this building
Starting point is 01:48:39 And they would not have found anything And then we also Basically like just had the conversation with everybody like sweat and feeling like nothing happened like I was going to the denial mode right away like nothing happened like yeah you got beat up like who the fuck beat you up you can't prove you got beat up here but then we got the paperwork and we said hey sign this paperwork when we sign the paperwork I'm like oh I guess we're putting the footage out and I mean that came with like a good and a bad because on one hand
Starting point is 01:49:06 it makes the whole business look kind of unprofessional and when I say kind of people can get touched I mean extremely professional yeah but then on the other hand I don't know. It was great content and people went fucking crazy for it. So it was, you know. Well, before that was the flaco and 16 situation, right? Yeah. When I look at my YouTube numbers for the last year, there's like two spikes right next to each other, like huge spikes.
Starting point is 01:49:28 And I'm pretty sure that that's what that was. And then there's Sharp and Blueface and Gershawn. And that was another massive spike. Yeah. That shit was crazy. Yeah. Somebody was just hitting me up the other day. Like, you want a show on Zeus?
Starting point is 01:49:42 The fucking Zeus. That's the network that has the blueface show? I don't watch that shit. I don't watch it either. But that's actually what's fucked up is that they are still running the Blue Face and Creshawn show right now, even though they're broken up now, but they're running the TV show that features them together, which to me is insane because if you do a reality show normally, you basically kind of have to go into hiding and like completely just act as if
Starting point is 01:50:05 none of this shit happens so that it can still be a surprise when the TV show comes out, which apparently Blue Fays and Creshaun are not capable of doing that. That shit's just so messy over there. Yeah, it's unreal. Yeah. You can see yourself ever having a relationship like that? No. No.
Starting point is 01:50:20 You're in a relationship right now? No. If you were, would you tell me? Nope. Yeah, definitely not on here. I think I said that to you before. Maybe that was fresh and fit. Yeah, I'm not doing that.
Starting point is 01:50:28 Nah, definitely. That's fucking up my situations. That's one thing me and my girl realized, like, well, we said that early on. We're never going to shit on each other online. Like, that was just like ground floor rule. Like, we're never going to do that. We're never going to step into that territory. I like privacy.
Starting point is 01:50:42 Same, yeah. You know what I mean? I value that. And especially. like us having a kid then you really don't want to play with that like that this whole thing is like it seems messy to other people but it's not to us so it's like it's like that's another thing too is i'll post my daughter though and i had somebody recognize my daughter before me out in public yeah i might never post my daughter again that shit was crazy yeah and she she because she got a louis
Starting point is 01:51:09 Vatant purse so the girl saw her and then saw the purse and then eventually saw me and ran up up was like oh my god I knew it was you because I saw her in the purse and da-da-da-da-da-da yeah like before we felt like we kind of had it good and we could play both sides where my my girl had like a mom TikTok where she's posting all this like cutie shit and then also we're doing porn but nobody really gave a fuck now this shit is so viral that they're taking innocent videos like there's a video of my girl uh We did Sesame Street makeup. So I'm Bert, my girl's Elmo, and my kid was dressed up as the count.
Starting point is 01:51:47 And it's like a whole 60-second TikTok of us doing the makeup and everything. But there's one clip in it where she's breastfeeding. And people are just taking that and being like, look at these demons with face paint. Look how evil this looks. It's like, bro, if you watch that TikTok in its entirety, it's just like a cute-ass little TikTok of us all hanging out. My daughter was a cop for Halloween. Yeah. What do you tell your kid?
Starting point is 01:52:09 You kid about cops? Nothing. No. No, I'm not going to put things in her head that, you know? Yeah. I'm not gonna, the fuck. I'm a good dad. Like, I don't do the bullshit.
Starting point is 01:52:19 Like, oh, yeah, you're gonna, nah. You want to be a cop for fucking Halloween? I bet. I'm gonna be the criminal. I had the handcuff on. Yeah. You know what the fuck is somebody gonna say? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:29 Like, all right, play with her. And you got fuck with me. Yeah. I'm not going to force. My lifestyle doesn't apply to them. Right. Yeah. That's how it goes.
Starting point is 01:52:38 But that's hard for people to comprehend. you want something different for your kid yeah fucking retarded yeah i mean because look at how sad the uh king vaughn situation is when they were showing the little boy watching the videos of him and you know what i'm saying a lot of people don't don't keep up with that aspect of things and how things affect people and you know or just not being there doing a bid and your kid is raised without you and that does things to them yeah you know what i'm saying so with mine no she wouldn't be a cop she can be a cop she can be a doctor she can be a doctor i'm not gonna let her dress up as a fucking gang member that's a good idea that shit you know what
Starting point is 01:53:15 mean so yeah i mean once you're in this public eye too it's like you know i'm gonna be very mindful of anything about the public eye though bro i'll publicly beat the shit out of somebody like nobody's just gonna say something about my daughter right you know especially we're like in person like i'm not for the criticizing and i don't do that i'm not gonna play about that i just feel like now at this point it's probably way easier and simpler for me to just never put my kid on the internet anymore because even like little things like my kid has a little kid makeup set and it's not like makeup makeup but it's just like little powder or whatever and she'll just be like putting on her face and messing around or whatever and i could just already imagine that somebody would
Starting point is 01:53:53 see that and be like look at look at his daughter's wearing makeup at this age isn't that fucked up somehow they got boys wearing makeup at young ages and that's supposed to be normal but it's just that we're now we're creeping into the cancel shit you're feeding we can't even talk about that type of shit but um why are you upset about drake painting his nails and uzi and all these people i don't give a fuck as long as it doesn't go to the kids yeah yeah if you were grown man you want to make those type of decisions see i like andrew tate i do yeah i fuck with him sneeco them boys red pill jake okay yeah i i fuck with them you know what i'm saying i've never met take i've met sneeco right um but i agree with a lot of the shit that they say
Starting point is 01:54:33 uh yeah i just i don't like yesterday i had my first ever real conversation with and and Andrew Tate on Aiden Ross's stream. I was watching that. And it was like, he was so, like, cool and respectful and basically just said, like, your lifestyle, it's not for me, but I understand everybody does their own thing, yada yada. The clips were like, Andrew Tate goes in on Adam 22 and Lena for their lifestyle, whatever.
Starting point is 01:54:53 He was actually super cool about it and was just- People will try to find any reason to fucking hate them. Which, which- When I thought about it too, I was like, if me and Andrew Tate getting on that live stream would have been infinitely more viral if he actually really condemned. me and said like fucking you're a terrible person and terrible dad everybody would have stood in line
Starting point is 01:55:12 to see that. Who was the little kid that was talking shit? Oh neon. Yeah. And then everyone was in the comments like bring bullying back. Yeah. Neon, like Aiden Ross basically has like other characters that he brings onto the stream to talk shit for him. Yeah. You know? I like Aiden Ross shit too, but fucking that kid right there. Come on, bro. Man, but they just, they expose Sneco. Or what? For like, you know, he says he's Muslim and shit. And then his like, this girl that he was like seeing or whatever exposed text messages of him telling her to get Molly and I think trying to line up a threesomes or some shit like that which to me hey my kind of guy yeah I'm not doing Molly right now but I've done a lot of it in the past it's a
Starting point is 01:55:52 great time but when you're like saying you're a Muslim it's a little bit harder to get away with that I guess yeah but also it's like do you really need to be claiming this religious belief if you're then going to be living like the opposite of it I mean bro you know how many gang members I know go to prison and turn Muslim just for the safety aspect of it same shit that same girl was sucking dick in here literally she did a patreon episode i don't even mean to expose her anything i know who the girl is maybe is it that one fucking something power no not salina yeah she'd be going crazy yeah she's everybody i seen andrew tate reject her did he what i seen that that's a wise idea in his part she says something about fucking him he's like i only fuck for love
Starting point is 01:56:36 money and she's like i got money he just left i mean if you want to like selina powell got nothing but when she was the first ever episode of plug talk and she was running away from the dick like the porn star guy was fucking her and she's all like kind of like she just didn't look comfortable too much i'm like how you fuck this many dudes and you're you're like squirming away when this guy's fucking you on camera i was very confused this doesn't look like a professional to me but i don't know I was trying to tell my girl the other day, like, let me fuck Selena Powell for Onlyfans. You never fucked her? No, I think my girl's a little worried about having her too associated with our brand, you know, which is very reasonable.
Starting point is 01:57:16 She'd be saying some wild shit. She's out of her mind. She told me Antonio Brown got a small dick, too, which is apparently everybody else is under the alternate impression. I don't have a comment for that, Adam. I'm not in that world. I don't know nothing about that. You don't need to comment, yeah. No.
Starting point is 01:57:30 Are you an FYBJ Maine fan? No. Have you seen it? I've seen him, yeah. You tuned in? Like, I'm not a fan in the sense. Like, I listen to his shit and all that. Right.
Starting point is 01:57:39 I don't get nothing bad to say about him. He kind of, like, has made a whole stir because he's talking, like, real, real, frankly and openly about shit that he's seen go on in Chicago back in the day. Like, for instance, him, him even just going on an interview and saying the Tay Savage shot at him or the Frato Santana shot at him. And he's just saying it, like, super frankly, which is like, it's a weird thing because in Chicago, even your ops, dudes don't really be. be talking about that kind of shit so openly. But he's talking about he's calling Tate Savage a killer saying like, yeah, yeah, he killed Blasindoll's mom. He's just saying shit that like other people wouldn't be expected to say.
Starting point is 01:58:16 Now granted, like the thing about, uh, him killing Blasandall's mom, that was already like fully documented in some of these like, uh, Hood documentaries. Could you say he's smart then? Because what he's saying is things that nobody can get in trouble for and he's going viral for doing it. Yeah. Jay Hood, I feel like got more. flag for the shit that he was putting on well he the craziest thing that j hood said is that
Starting point is 01:58:40 vaughn told him that Mellie really killed his friends yeah no j hood be saying some shit that's like nah you're tripping yeah but saying somebody like if i said oh yeah adam 22 shot at me back in the day yeah it's my word against yours you're not gonna get charged for that right yeah and then if you beat a fucking murder and i'm like oh yeah adam 22 really killed that bitch yeah you're not gonna get charged yeah so it's like he sees a way to make shit happens you got everybody saying do your homework all that shit so if you he got some some light on him right now he's probably like the breakout star of 23 and this whole like hood media landscape I mean he's definitely up there like people are just talking about him constantly he's always in the conversation and even like
Starting point is 01:59:23 the crazy thing that we've seen happen in the last couple days is just him hopping on IG live with his ops that like everybody assumed that if they were to ever run across each other that they would kill each other like him and tay savage thing and now all of a sudden they're on stream and i even saw saw king yellow saying that taste savage himself could kind of change the face of chicago gang banging because this is a real bd that really went and sat down for 10 years and he's hopping on igu live with gd's and just having a conversation with him and keeping it cool like that really could change the culture to a certain degree. And anything that is able to relieve any amount of tension when it comes to a real deadly gang beef like that, we should all look at that
Starting point is 02:00:04 and be like, that's fucking dope if we can kind of change the cultural norms around that shit. Yeah, I mean, they say, Tays have got a history. Yeah. So, you know, with that comes power. He's got influence. But at the same time, Chicago is Chicago. The new generation, all it takes is one of them to kill another one and the war is reignited, you know? So J-Maine is- I don't think the responsibility of uniting Chicago should fall on him. Right. You know, I don't think that it could solely be him that ties everything.
Starting point is 02:00:35 But as far as like the industry and that generation, like Tay-Sah, King Yellow like their generation, they might be able to, you know. Yeah, because it is, like, it's not even about responsibility, it's just about who makes what look cool. Because for all these years, like one thing you say about King Vaughn is he made being a killer seemed like the coolest fucking thing in the world. Who the fuck made anything positive look cool? Yeah, well, look at like odd future.
Starting point is 02:00:58 They, for a period of time, odd future, Tyler, creator and all of them, in like the early 2010s. They made, they were like some of the first artists I've seen come out of L.A. Isn't that like underground shit though? It was, but it was really fucking popular for a while. But they presented like an archetype of L.A. youth who wasn't involved in gangs who liked skateboarding and fashion and kicking it with girls and maybe like smoking weed and drinking and shit. But it was like if you offer up an alternative persona or an alternative style of being to kids that is different than like the gangbanger thing or whatever, then that could ultimately like let kids know like that they. And I remember even when I moved here 2010, 2011, I had BMX homies that clearly were influenced by the odd future thing or influenced by BMX and skate culture. And they would tell me like, nah, gang bang and shit, that's lame.
Starting point is 02:01:46 And I quickly figured out that they were not the norm. A lot of people say that's lame though. But at the same time, if I do a video on Tyler the Creator and I do want on Taye Sav, which one you think on a pop? But Tyler Creator is huge. Your audience doesn't give a fuck about him, but it's huge. He's definitely made. I mean, a lot of people are big.
Starting point is 02:02:04 Jay Cole's big. Yeah. That doesn't mean that in this other world, they're going to have an effect. You know what I'm saying? Like just the negative always outweighs the positive because people seek the negative. That's why they say, don't watch the news. The news is 99% negative shit. Right.
Starting point is 02:02:22 Nobody gives a fuck about who graduated. They want to hear about that fucking triple homicide in Oblock. And then the rapper that just made a diss song about it. Like, that's just how it is. I mean, the news at a certain point figured out that they could be on for 24 hours a day and they could always be highlighting the most dramatic negative possible thing. And, you know, you see that with everything from like, you know, the submarine. All we heard was about that sub for a week or two there.
Starting point is 02:02:47 And there was mad memes about it. Everything was implodding. Just the idea that somebody would be. be like on the verge of death. A bunch of guys might be dead or about to die and that we're all able to sort of slowly watch it play out. Okay, so how do you feel about the situation or the standing of the QCP situation?
Starting point is 02:03:06 Because I remember going on the news, on No Jumper News at a certain point and saying it's going to be a big decision to see if somebody like Gucci-Mane is trying to stand next to P after this. I don't think it didn't have any effect on how those dids treat them. No, I don't think anyone gives the fuck. Yeah. He's already up there.
Starting point is 02:03:23 He's very fucking rich. Everybody thought that I was going to get assassinated right after that video came out. I don't think Gucci kid. Like, that's the thing, bro, is when people get to a certain level, no one really cares. All that street shit goes away.
Starting point is 02:03:38 The street shit only matters when you're down bad and broke and fucked up. Once you get money, nobody really cares. It's the same thing with like killing. Motherfuckers will kill you for nothing because they have nothing. When you got something to lose, now you don't want to lose.
Starting point is 02:03:51 to do it. Now it's like, what's the point? Same thing with robin. If you got money, why rob? You're not addicted to robin. You were robbing when you were broke. Goochie's up a ton of money. QCP's up a ton of money. Who gives a fuck? Right. You know what I mean? Like anything could come out. Something can come out on Gucci. That's not going to affect him. So it's like... I wonder if behind the scenes when they're having conversations about P getting exposed or whatever. I wonder if they're just laughing at that. The whole Atlanta knew about that shit for years. The guy that died, I talked to one of his family members. He was like, everyone knows about this shit.
Starting point is 02:04:29 Everyone's just scared to talk about it. Because we don't have the money. That's all it comes down to. Yeah. So it's like, you know, you got the bag, you control the situation. Who even exposed it before you? Are you the first one to bring it to the- No, fuck, no.
Starting point is 02:04:44 I didn't do it first. Who talked about it first? I don't know. I think I just seen it online. Yeah. Maybe academics. Did he talk about it? I thought you talked about it first.
Starting point is 02:04:53 I think he went over it, whatever, because it was a piece of paper that was shown. Right. And then I went and found it. Mm-hmm. Because it exists. It's in the Fulton County. Anybody can look it up. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:02 It just feels like if P's not going to get rejected socially for it, then it makes no sense that Gunna is going to get rejected. Although Gunna told on a famous rapper, which is different than Pee telling on somebody. People are going to be biased on the situation because of who's involved. Nobody gives a fuck about who P. told on and the guy's dead. Yeah. Versus Gunna told on. on thug yeah and thug ultimately he's more beloved than gunna yeah of course which means that
Starting point is 02:05:27 gunna's gonna be the one who takes the the heat for it yeah i wonder if gunna's like invited to rolling loud and shit at this point i wonder if it's safe for him to even go yeah or but i wonder if like rolling loud would even feel like it was worth the risk to have him booked i'm not sure if he's like booked for this weekend in miami or anything i don't know i know a couple of people are though finesse's there grotto's there I don't think Boston Rich is the But I think he has been on some of them I was surprised because Boolike Kev owns a club in Arizona
Starting point is 02:05:57 And he told me that Boston Richie performed there And it was sold out people loved it I was like oh I guess that shit ain't nothing He made good music Yeah Yeah definitely It's if anything it makes you kind of want to reexamine The 6-9 thing
Starting point is 02:06:12 Because even though he told in like the most extreme fashion It is kind of weird now Like somebody like me just listening to Gunna and not really thinking about the snitch and shit that much. Bro, the whole 6-9 thing wouldn't even have been that bad if 6-9 was black. 6-9 was Mexican, so people were already like, oh, you ain't even in the culture for real, you're not that, you're not this.
Starting point is 02:06:32 They already hated him. A lot of people could see through the tough guy at there, like, you're really pussy. And then when everything proved to be that, everyone's like, see, I was right. Yeah. That's all it was. They just hated him. There was already such a reason to hate him. It's like Jake Paul losing the fight.
Starting point is 02:06:46 Yeah. Everyone was watching the fight because they were hoping he would lose. Right. But he was winning. you know what I mean then once you actually take a L everyone's like ha ha see I was right the real crazy thing was 6-9 though was how so many people including somebody like me who did not really get along with him throughout most of the time he was free I like the music there was a bunch of songs that I loved and then he has not made a song that really connected with the culture
Starting point is 02:07:09 since then and you can blame that on playlisting or whatever but I don't know it's like when that shit happened to him his whole like the public's ability to take him seriously as a musician just seems like it went away although that apparently does not extend to the Latin community. No, they do shit different over there. But, you know, one thing that I always questioned too was with 6'9, he was disson the dead, like crazy. So it's hard for me to imagine how anybody supports that shit.
Starting point is 02:07:36 Right. Like, he's showing up and doing, man, he went to O'Block. Right. You know, he was just doing a lot of shit trying to antagonize Dirk. Like, that's why when the Kings beat the shit out of him, nobody has sympathy. Yeah. We forget that that was not that long ago. that was like one of the biggest news stories of the year i mean i got some breaking news on that
Starting point is 02:07:55 situation what case is done those guys fat the charges were dropped the armed robbery was dropped and the father got probation for beating the fuck out of six nine really and he wants to do an interview really yeah with you or with who with me you want to i mean shit i don't know what i'm going to say to them fly him out he he beat the fuck out of six nine that's a good conversation i would like to talk about Yeah, them boys really. Damn, why do you get off so easy when there's so much evidence? The robbery was bullshit. It wasn't about the robbery.
Starting point is 02:08:27 Would they take the phone or something? Like the phone, crocks, whatever. It was bullshit. And then apparently what actually happened is he walked outside with the sneakers, but then threw them back. Oh. They just didn't show it. So, you know, the robbery got dropped.
Starting point is 02:08:40 Probation for the ass whooping. You're good. I keep seeing shit that makes me, like, way less scared of committing a violent crime. Like blueface shooting that guy outside the strip club in Vegas and then getting probation for it? I'm like, so you're telling me that if it comes down to it, I could just shoot somebody. I'm going to be able to walk away from it if I get a good lawyer. That's wild. Yeah, I feel like I would have never went to prison if I had money.
Starting point is 02:09:03 Oh, yeah, yeah, right? I feel like I would have beat my whole case. Yeah, probably. But that was like the best learning experience for me. Yeah. Happened for a reason. Who knows if you had got deeper and deeper into whatever the fuck you were doing? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:17 Yeah, shit would have been fucked up. You could have got to the point where you got a case that you wouldn't have been able to walk away from. Well, if I never moved back up to Boston, because I got out in July of 2015. July of 2016, I got arrested for chasing somebody with a gun. If I had did that in Florida, I would have had a mandatory life sentence. So it's crazy to think about how things could have played out. I should appreciate how it did. You got to wonder about Spot him got him, too.
Starting point is 02:09:45 What about him? Well, he just like, it seemed like his career just, froze and just ended but fuck it we just got into it uh on instagram oh really yeah well the thing is um it was like a blood holiday the other day for the east coast so the day before that i uh put all like the fake blood rappers that got exposed for snitching on my instagram story and i've seen that he was throwing bees up and shit i'm like how how what blood it like who are you with right all your pictures are by yourself what bloods are you with it's me make you even feel comfortable talking about, uh, and then, uh, he put something on the story,
Starting point is 02:10:22 and I sent him his statement in his DM. And, um, me and King AK-47 jumped on live because I'm blocked from going on live. I basically just went through his paperwork again, you flat out told. Right. Like, there's no, but yeah, his, uh, that's kind of what fucked up the situation with me and say cheese. Oh, really? I think we're good, though, because I jumped on say cheese live the other day and he said he
Starting point is 02:10:44 wants to do an interview. Really? So we should be good. So say cheese wasn't fucking. you for a period of time because that was his artist and you exposed that's what i assumed but i don't i i've heard sean card and have the conversation in other interviews about spotum got him where he seems to be fully acknowledging and accepting that he ratted yeah i heard sean don't give a fuck yeah i mean he's signed a lot of artists you can't be just giving a fuck about all of them in the
Starting point is 02:11:08 yeah i don't know i mean that was just my assumption and um i would comment on a lot of say cheese posting my comment i just couldn't find it the fellow they would delete my shit oh really yeah and then like i felt like when they would post something with me, it's like, oh, alleged paperwork drops on Boston Richie. It doesn't mention me. It's not alleged if you can fucking find it for yourself. So I felt like certain things were like biased towards me. But from what I've heard, we've yet to have a conversation from what I've heard. It ain't none of that though. Interesting. Shout out to him. Yeah, Sean Khan said he was going to interview me at one point. I never heard back about it. So I always wondered if he was. Let's see who gets it first. Yeah, I don't know. We'll see.
Starting point is 02:11:47 Maybe he just hates white people. Understandable. Maybe. A lot of smut on our race's name, Jake. Well, I don't think he's interviewed too many white people, right? You know, they say, I'm from New Hampshire now. Really? Yeah, milk doesn't count, though.
Starting point is 02:12:04 Mokes. You're a secret black guy. You see that video on Jubilee? Yeah, I saw that. That's how I actually found out Milk's name and then found out he has a sealed case. Oh, he does? Yeah. But it could just be a juvenile case that they see.
Starting point is 02:12:17 sealed because it's you know go whatever whatever if you exposed him as a snitch you'd be doing us all such a favor that'd be crazy that would be great you know what mad people from l.a said that to me really i got a guy out here that does a lot of the court shit out here right and he's who i had going looking to him interesting yeah i could see it um okay what else we got here oh yeah this is so what's the status of the island boys you think that them making out kind of i think they're trying to uh get a new audience they see potential you know maybe they're gonna be the island girls soon this is why how i see it is that if you are a dude and you start an only fans i've heard this from like male only fans guys male porn stars where basically like you sign up for only fans you
Starting point is 02:13:05 think that you're gonna be fucking bitches and getting done for bitches and everything and that that's going to be your only fans but the reality is is that most of the people who are signing up for your only fans are gay dudes and those gay dudes start asking you to do you to do to do all kinds of such shit. They want to see you put your booty on the kitchen sink. They want to see you, you know. That's the reality of that? Putting toys in your mouth, you know, like all kinds of wild shit.
Starting point is 02:13:27 So I've talked to dudes who are like, no, I have a super strict line. I don't do anything zesty at all because once you start to do it, like they'll offer you hell of money for it. But if you start to do it, it's a slippery slope. You're going to keep doing weirder and weirder shit. But I think the Island Boys are broke as fuck to the point where they're listening to the comments on only fans and they're starting to realize like oh shit like if we start fucking around with each other we're going to get the bag which is it's almost hard to comprehend because like
Starting point is 02:13:55 i don't have a brother i have a sister if i had a brother the idea of like doing something sexually with him on only fans for money is like hard to fucking wrap your head around but i think that that's really what happened to them is that they started getting all these messages on only fans wanting to see them fuck around and they decided like well i'm not going to jerk you off i'm not going to suck your nipple but we could kiss a little bit yeah i mean that's that's what i think it played out you've really been thinking into this shit well just because i've heard these dudes talk about what it's like weird that uh one of them had a fucking seizure and then right after the seizure they come up with that video yeah i mean maybe he tried to give them mouth to mouth and bring him back and they were like hey
Starting point is 02:14:41 that's all that's a place maybe we can fucking monetize this oh my god i just the the trajectory of their careers were like keeping on when i interviewed they started off gang banging sex money murder but even by the time I interviewed them they were like no we're not bloods it's not you know and I clean that up yeah and that was before the Island Boys arc which I think they became convinced that that was gonna turn them into real rappers yeah but now that like what are they gonna do like full-on like gay porn together it seems like like what other direction would they go in if this keeps going like this I don't fucking know I'm not in that realm
Starting point is 02:15:15 I don't know what the fuck they got going on I just see what you see I don't It's crazy. It's hard to go back to the music. They never had good music. No one ever took that shit serious. They really blew up off of being made fun of, as sad as it is to say. And then they tattered themselves the fuck up
Starting point is 02:15:32 and just really thought people were respecting them when people were like, look at these two. But my favorite story is how Kodak had them go to his house and then he convinced, who was at the time, Red 4X, he convinced him to change his name to Kodiak Red. Yeah. And then never did anything. with him or never signed him or anything like that the snitch allegation came out oh really you think
Starting point is 02:15:53 was because of that i think he just like was fucking with him and trolling him in real life in the first place from gang banging to not gang banging to snitching to they were always beating their girlfriends up and then now they got the gay shit yeah maybe they need to sit down with andrew taiton you know get some life coaching well that is a good idea he could help them on i'm gonna throw aiden ross that idea i see what kind of want it for myself but i mean i don't know if i tell Andrew Taye like hey I got these dudes they're called the island boys you got to talk to him I think he's You got to like mail them over there though so he can beat the shit out of them and fucking throw him on the PJ we're going to Romania I would go I would go too but I've seen the video not bringing but they make them cage fighting shit I'll do it if me and you were on a PJ with the island boys for 12 hours or whatever it tastes
Starting point is 02:16:40 You know I don't want to go with them we're going to fight them by the end of it we're we're not gonna be able to handle being around them slapping the shit out of them dude they're gonna be making out on the flight and shit I don't know. Okay, so what's going on with you and the celebrity lawyer, Bruce Rivers? Shout out to Bruce. There's. Ain't nothing going on with us. In my opinion, he was paid by Boston Richie. He says he wasn't.
Starting point is 02:17:07 In my opinion, I think he was. Him and the other lawyer. Who's the other one? That one. Mo. Yeah, him. So I think they both got paid because the very first time. they ever reacted to one of my videos, it just so happens to be the same fucking video.
Starting point is 02:17:26 It just seemed pretty fucking weird. You know what I mean? I know that Boston Ritchie pays the blogs to post everything that he says and does, whatever. But that was the only time they ever reacted to anything that I did was just the Boston Ritchie video. So it didn't really make any fucking sense. And then, you know, after that, obviously he goes on academics and does an interview. I never saw that. Is it worth watching or is a bunch of cap from your perspective? Boston Richie interview that he did with AC.
Starting point is 02:17:55 Yeah. You think it's a bunch of cap? Yeah. I know it is because I'm directly involved in the situation. Right. That's why I was wondering why academics never brought me on to hit my half. Which made me think that you probably got paid to fucking hear one perspective and then not bring the other on. Because, you know, that situation happened with QCP and he brought up WAC 100.
Starting point is 02:18:16 So I hit him up like, what's up? You're going to let me come up then speak my piece, or you're just going to let him run his narrative. He kind of gave me the runaround. Academics gave you the runaround. Yeah. Interesting. So that's when I started to see, like, the industry favors.
Starting point is 02:18:30 Bring me on, but don't bring him on. You know what I mean? Let me speak my side. You not say nothing, and then just don't let Jake say his. But with Bruce Rivers, no, I mean, shout out to him, whatever. He's doing what he's doing. He's making his money. I think he got paid, though.
Starting point is 02:18:44 Really? Just in my. But you think that the stuff that he was saying, saying about Boston Richie was stuff that he couldn't possibly really believe. Bro, you think he'd give a fuck about Boston Richie? What would make two random ass lawyers make videos defending a rapper without even getting the paperwork? See, that's the thing is I got the paperwork. Bruce Rivers never got it. I sent it to him. You see what I'm saying? So you made, you had an opinion on something you
Starting point is 02:19:08 didn't even look into. And then I sent it to you. You didn't make another video. You're making me want to go down the rabbit hole and check out the content he made about Boston Ritchie in the first place because that's that's pretty interesting that's a brand deal you're a lawyer you get you get a brand deal to just defend somebody I mean that's the first thing I asked them too is where you did you get paid right not I didn't get paid you know somebody paid me and you know they paid me for my opinion that would fuck with the reputations like yeah we agree but that doesn't mean you're not lying the thing with Mo is that his MO ironically because his name is mo is that he kind of like always
Starting point is 02:19:44 defends the rapper. I think Moe's just trying to look cool because he's a civil lawyer. He ain't even a real lawyer. And then when he started speaking on the situation with me, I hit him up. I was like, yo, you're in New York. Like I can have somebody hand delivered this shit to you in New York. Oh, no, bro. It's all good.
Starting point is 02:20:00 You don't got to do all that. Well, then stop fucking talking how you talking, because you talking like, motherfucker can't Google your address. Like you work in an office. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, because he was like dissing when he made the video about me. You know what I mean? So it was like you felt like he was clowning you.
Starting point is 02:20:16 Yeah. And there's a fine line between, you know. Having an opinion and really dissing. Yeah, that's what made me feel like your opinion was bought. Because not only are you sharing your opinion, you're trying to discredit mine. So that was my whole viewpoint on it. Wow, that's interesting. Yeah, Mo, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:20:36 Sometimes it just feels like, like at first when I really started watching stuff, I felt like I could really trust them. But then there's this a certain extent where I'm like, it feels like you're- People hear the word lawyer. I feel like he's playing to the audience a little bit too much. People hear the word lawyer and automatically think you're fucking this, there's different kinds of lawyers. I think Mo is civil cases. People suing each other.
Starting point is 02:20:56 That's not criminal. Well, his whole business is that- Everything he covers on social media is criminal. Bruce Rivers is a criminal lawyer. Right. But Mo wants to help you sue your employer. That's like what all this stuff is- What the fuck I gotta do with Tory Lane's?
Starting point is 02:21:08 I know, but like he'll get attention from something like that and his whole plan is like, then once you decide that you want to sue your employer because they didn't give you the proper amount of breaks or whatever that you think of him right away because you just saw him reporting on Tory Lane's for the past few months. So that's his business model. The lack of education for the viewers that watch is because this lady, Katie Quackenbush, spoke up for Grito and then everybody naturally assumed, oh, this must be his lawyer. So everything 1090J said was fake just because they hear the word attorney when the whole time
Starting point is 02:21:41 her fucking dad was the co-defendant's lawyer not even his right um just a side note are we going to get the footage of uh little jay jumping off the balcony in in prison i don't know is that like something that they could potentially submit for possibly Chicago rare's that's the guy i know I just followed him and they were like thank you for the follow i'm like oh you're a real person okay he's got the shit yeah yeah he when he sees this he's gonna be oh yeah you try to be out that But yeah, he's into it with Flacco. About what? Flacco called him a bitch or something because he's anonymous.
Starting point is 02:22:16 Really? Yeah. I can't begin to defend a lot of Flacco's opinions about stuff. I told him I'll slap the shit out of Flacco if he sends me 10 bands. Really? Yeah. I would have gave you five, so, you know. Oh, I don't want to be part of it.
Starting point is 02:22:31 All right, I got two more of people that have been kind of exonerated in the public eye, I think. So let's start with the Rallo thing. You reported on it, and then you ended. ended up ultimately taking his side and deciding that he most likely didn't snitch. Yeah. What was that conversation like with him? How long did you speak for? I didn't speak to him.
Starting point is 02:22:50 He's in prison right now, so he can't communicate with anybody. Oh, okay. But speaking to the people that I spoke to, I understood what he was saying. It was literally a matter of, yeah, I had someone willing to take the blame. They would have got a lesser charge, lesser time, and I would have gave them a shitload of money, money that they've never made. And knowing the amount of money that he really makes, it was like, okay.
Starting point is 02:23:14 None of your co-defendants came out and said you snitched. Nobody's saying that you snitch except for people that aren't even involved in the case. And then the same guy that actually was exposing Rallo the whole time just got exposed for having fake jewelry and all this other shit. So me, you know, there was a little joke going on. Like, yeah, he's exposing paperwork, but he never got the paperwork on his jewelry. I don't know. I just feel like I saw through it.
Starting point is 02:23:39 I don't feel like there was anything definite that said who he snitched on. And there was nothing. Nobody was saying, yeah, I got snitched on. So it's like, how am I going to say he snitched? Who did he tell on? Who even got you to start investigating that in the first place? I think just the internet. It just started to go up.
Starting point is 02:23:59 And I just looked into it. Interesting. Okay. What about the bandman Kevo thing? Because you ended up kind of clearing him too. Kevold was, none of his paperwork was bad. Okay. This shit was fine.
Starting point is 02:24:09 It was two people that did an interview with 16 shot him, and those two people actually snitched. They tried to put that jacket on Kevold. I cleared that and then actually found their paperwork. And that put them in a whole fucking situation because one of them was in jail when the video came out that he was a rat. And then the other one had to switch states. So that's, I guess that's common.
Starting point is 02:24:32 You shouldn't have tried to put that on Batman Kevow. Wow. Yeah, that's the danger of- Not in his shit. There was nothing in his paperwork that was fucking, you know what I mean? Right. And he's the first person that ever pull up on me and hand me their shit. Kevo did, yeah.
Starting point is 02:24:45 Yeah. Pulled up in a Rolls-Royce, no security, jewelry on, and handed me all this paperwork. That's wild. Got to respect it. You got to respect it. Shit. Anything else we should cover? Anything else we got going on?
Starting point is 02:25:03 I'm not going to lie. I'm fucking boiling right here. It's pretty. I think we covered a good amount of shit. A good amount of shit. What's the near future hole for 1090J? You got anything in place? Or how motivated would you say you are to grind out this content versus just living
Starting point is 02:25:20 the good life? It's a mix of both, bro, because, you know, I'm living the good life, but I imagine one better. I want to keep expanding, get richer, just take shit as far as I can take it. Yeah. Yeah, I'm in a weird position because sometimes I feel like I'm just working. too much that I have ideas for more content I want to make even just seeing all these rappers getting on Instagram live and streaming together and just having these conversations and stuff it's like I do want to do more of that but at the same time it's like well I'm
Starting point is 02:25:49 already fucking working so many fucking hours out of every week I look at my calendar it's like I don't really have that much time it's kind of like it's tough to make choices about where you're gonna put your energy you know yeah sometimes things just seem to work out yeah so as long as you put an energy into the right shit just let things work out how they work out My advice to you is you should build out your team more so that you can focus on the stuff that only you can do, which is like, you know, saying the videos or coming up with the concept and stuff. But maybe if you have somebody that helps you put together the scripts or you have an editor, it could be like instead of you spending 12 hours on a video, you spend four hours on the video and then everybody else takes care of all the other shit. And then you're able to get the ball rolling on other videos. You could put out more stuff.
Starting point is 02:26:36 or you could just have more time to have the normal life. No, yeah, if you got anybody you recommend behind the scenes, let me know. That's the hard part, yeah. Because I don't fucking know people like that. I don't really fucking people like that. No, because you got to try like 10 bad employees before we find a good one. Yeah, that's the thing is it's tough. And then once I'm playing with money, like, I don't like playing with my money.
Starting point is 02:26:53 Yeah. You know what I mean? So if I'm doing business with somebody, it's like, you got to know the official. Shout out my boy, Remo, because I got to give it to him. Thanks. He's one dude that I like, oh, I fucking really found like an invaluable. employee right there that I can actually trust to help me come up with questions and all this kind of shit.
Starting point is 02:27:10 I'm talking to everybody. Yeah. He's a slippery fuck. Yeah, shout out to him. He's probably talking to the ops. I don't know about that. No? He's doing what he needs to do.
Starting point is 02:27:21 Definitely. All right, 1090. One of my favorite people in this game. Appreciate you coming on. It's great having a conversation. Much love. Everybody tune in to the end of sentence channel. 1090 everything.
Starting point is 02:27:35 Any last words? Rock on with Charlie. Y'all rock on me. There it is. And for this one, we out.

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