No Jumper - 16ShotEm on Giving Flakko a Pass, DJU Beef, FBG Butta & More

Episode Date: January 2, 2024

16ShotEm speaks on DJ U, moving out of Chicago, his interview with Flakko, FYB J Mane, and more. ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumperofficial     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A lot of people got the wrong idea about me, too. Like, they think, like, I'm a cameraman that's trying to rap now. And they don't know, like, I gave up rapping. I didn't, I don't want to do that. Like, I've seen the difference. We don't really need to do, like, the basic stuff. Because if you watch his old interview, it's kind of got, like, the basis storyline. So I feel like, I mean, we can just jump in in the middle of it.

Yeah, can you get a little bit closer there? But I know I'm going to be less reserved right now. Because there's a lot of times I be on these platforms, and I, I really don't be on to talk about this but I know when you just sit back they control the narrative with a lot of shit

if you don't say that's calling the truth so like so okay actually I know where to start I felt like when I interviewed you you were in a position where it felt like the world

was your oyster like you were motivated to move to LA you were talking about having other people doing interviews for you stuff like that it felt like you were super motivated in that regard

and I still see you going hard with the content and everything, obviously. But at a certain point, it also, I believe you even told me that you kind of got frustrated with L.A.

and you ended up moving back to Chicago and shit like that. So break down, like, that whole sequence of events from your perspective. We're in an interview right now? Yeah.

I thought we were just talking. I, uh, yeah, well, L.A. for show, it was, I didn't like it.

Like, when I moved out here, before I moved out here, I was in a point where, like, I got bored of Chicago. Because not a sudden I worked with everybody,

but the majority of people in the city I had worked with anybody wanted to I worked with besides like people that move like Dirk Chief Keith her like that right so I lost what I had before like before every day when I woke up is a new thing on my mind like a new thing to do a new piece of work to do a new person to work with and then it got to the point like it's repetitive it's like damn I'm not even having I'm not enjoying this no more like the money is cool and it's constant but the growth I was saying before is not the same. It's not like a new growth. It's just constant money. And I wanted to grow. So coming here, I knew coming here was like not going to be a walk in the park. I knew like

I'm going from being a shark in the water to a fish in a pond type. So it's like I knew it's going to have to build up. But I ain't going to get comfortable. Like I was seeing so much money. Even when I'm not doing shit, I could probably count on one hand how many interviews I did in a year living out here. I ain't know people, for one. And I was in a position where it was like, I wasn't around people who I normally would be around. You know, it's like, don't get me wrong. Everybody's around, they're cool.

I f*** with them. But, like, it's more so we're around each other because we're off in Chicago and we're here. But in Chicago, we wouldn't normally be kicking it. So when I started having issues and people started doing weird, dropping my locations, it had me in a weird position.

I couldn't really trust who I was around. There's some depression that comes to moving to L.A. because it's like this thing that everybody thinks about throughout their life is like, damn, if I really am going to make it, I'm going to move to L.A. And then I notice it with a lot of people where they move out here. And it's like you're at home, you're around your friends and your family and people you went to high school with and you got real close, meaningful relationships with. And then people move out to L.A.

And it takes time to like make friendships slash this is kind of like one of the fakes places on earth in terms of like everybody who wants to make it in entertainment or YouTube or social media or whatever. They all come here. And a lot of people kind of have to go through this hump of like just getting used to being out here, being away from your friends and your family and all that you're used to. And also just the competitiveness and the pettiness. And I mean, I've seen it happen to a lot of people in a lot of different ways, including myself. When I first moved out here, I had like a weird six months before I like gotten to a groove of really like, you know, because it's like you're starting from scratch. You don't got.

Even just that. It's tough to deal with. I don't regret coming at all because I could say I learned to. Like maybe maybe what I what I wasn't doing work wise I never stopped doing research or like educating myself like even the situation when the shit me and Flacco coming here I seen how y'all handled that and how y'all put it out and how y'all capitalize off of it and I never used to do those type of things I never thought that way so I would never think take this big situation and talk about it and how other people talk about it and repost it and do this so I would just do

the interview, it go via, go to the next. So, like, I learned, like, the content. Because how many interviews had you even done before, like, the Cairo thing? Because it felt, obviously the Cairo thing was kind of, like, the thing that just shot you through the roof where, like, if anyone didn't know about you, all of a sudden, boom, they knew about you. And it just, it's hard to, like, recapture that kind of magic, you know? Because there's only so many of those stories to be told.

When you say how many interviews I'd done before, you may, like, like. You had been doing it for a long time because, like, I didn't even know. I think when I interviewed you that you did Vaughn's first interview, which I was just, I shouldn't know, and I probably saw it back in the day before I interviewed him, but, like, you know, it's like you had kind of just been, like, doing cool on YouTube, and then that was, like, your first, like, insane spike, right? Yeah, like, I go a lot of, like, I didn't have interviews that. I was, every, every video was averaging, like, 100,000 or more type shit.

It was, it was cool, but I never had an interview that, like, had nine million views total within a few days of it dropping, or, like, I dropped multiple clips and they all hit 100,000 that same day. It's just like, that was different, but my start was, I don't know, like, compared to probably like what you used to, it might not be the same,

but like compared to what I'm used to when I'm coming from, my start was strong because my first interview did well, my third one was Vaughn. That was great. So it was like the start was just there. Like, I don't even know how to build a YouTube channel if that makes sense because I didn't have to really had that slow ground.

So like, if I do have to have a slow moment, it's kind of a little harder to deal with, because I never had slow moments. But I feel like when you started doing those interviews, it was kind of like a weirdly quiet period in terms of media in Chicago, whereas now it feels like there's a lot of people trying to figure out how they're going to make a bag, either talking about the culture or talking to rappers or talking to gang members or whatever. But when you kind of popped up, it was sort of like there hadn't been somebody who really like fully inhabited that Zach TV role for a while there.

Yeah. I feel like, well, I don't feel, I know, I don't really be humble, but I do know I aspire a lot of people to do this. And a lot of people told me or tell me. And I think what made it like real saturated is like people seeing what it did for me. Because a lot of, I showed, you know, I showed the lifestyle, I showed the jewelry, I showed how I was living. And people seen that and like, oh, damn it's money in this.

Because if I knew that, I would have done it this years ago. Like when Zach was doing it, I would have did it. But I never thought like all Zach making money. or he running it up. I just seen content. I didn't care to do it. Yeah. In 2017, I didn't know that you could get millions of views from interviewing like a rapper's friend.

You know, it took a while for that to sort of sink in of like, and especially the realization that Chicago is so lit that you could interview like the rapper's friend's friend's friend's. And that's a lot of views. It took a while for me to realize that, you know? I seen when y'all interviewed DJU, he said something like, I fronted my when I went to LA. And I could agree with that like, because

in my head, you know, everybody's Chicago, they want to make it out, they want to lead. And for most people, that might be the best thing to do. But for somebody like me, I get paid off of interviews and interviews, you need attention. Chicago don't lack attention. We might lack resources of money

or record labels and all this shit, but I don't need record labels and resources and money because I don't operate off of people paying me or getting booked. I just need the attention. So I left a place where I got all the attention and came here, which I thought it had the same amount of attention, which it probably do,

but in Chicago, it don't. Like, a lot of shit that's out here that's big, it don't even reach us. Like, that's why it was also hard coming out here because I don't even know what to do. You know, it's like I'm just going based on what people tell me. I feel like you probably, like, learned a lot from coming out here and sort of realize

the nature of what you got going on and stuff. So even if it didn't really work out, it's like you're still young, and people who have become successful, like, you know, I tried a million things that didn't work over the years, you know? That's just, like, you can't take, like, one temporary setback and just be like, oh, yeah, that's a sign that it's over. Not, like, lately, the last few times I came out here, I like, I like the, uh, how things

been in L.A. Like, every, everything, since, since your party, or since before your party, but since I've been out for your party, like, I've been having shit to do every day. So I know it could work. It's just at the time. It wasn't. And the issue is with the people I'm with like I'm with people who still we all got to Chicago mentality So we a lot of things in Chicago

We're not doing we not going to clubs and showing our face and being accessible and being out and networking You more so you know you move like a ghost You you let people see you when you want to be seen So moving like that you're never going to run into people at networks So I'm around people who got that same mentality and we put up all day Or if we are doing something is still private and this last time I can came out here, I was with people who actually want to go outside. And me been outside, I ran into so many people.

That would be my advice to you in terms of, like, getting dope interviews and meeting people and, like, coming up with interesting stories. Yeah, go crazy. Would just be like, yeah, literally go to every party you can, every show you can, just be around people because those little connections you can make from smoking a blunt with somebody's manager real quick and, like, just, you know, having a 20-minute conversation with them, that could be the shit that gets you into the next big interview. You know, it's like, and for me, like, I slacked on being outside for a long period of time there.

And, like, lately I've been starting to get back out there. And it feels really good to, like, you know, be able to just meet people randomly again. And one day, I ran, just for been outside, I ran it to Ghi Gaddi, Stephen Joe, super hot fire. I don't know if you, I remember him? Oh, yeah. Who else? It was like four or five people. Right.

It's like all interviews set up. Gina, we got an interview, so it was like, this is all from been outside of one day. Chino views? Yeah. Oh, all right, that's all right. That's gonna be your next hit. Yeah, for so. But, I mean, yeah, all that shit.

Because, like, realistically, you could DM those people, and it's gonna be really hard to get through to them. But if you just, like, meet them and chat with them in a fucking hallway, that could be the thing that, like, really turns you up, you know? Yeah. So, look, you just said that you moved out here. Nigger DJU said that you front your shit by moving to L.A. You feel like you come into L.A.,

gave DJU the spotlight? Like, you really... How you feel about that? It's the same. When Zach died, it's a void. If it's a void, someone's going to feel it. You know, like, you can't just sit back and not do nothing and think nobody's going to take advantage of it.

So it's like, people was telling me from the beginning, like, hey, you got to be smooth dudes. But I didn't have an issue with it because I didn't want him to not succeed. You know, it's like I'm not a hater. I don't look at it like there's only enough room for one of us in this bitch because there's billions of people around the world. Just because they're watching you. don't mean they can't watch me.

And I don't think he understand that. He definitely doesn't. Because he's been throwing a much little shade at us and shit. And it's weird that he thinks that he has some sort of like special ownership over like Chicago rappers, which when you look at all the big players and like hip hop media, we don't really do that. Like I will interview someone and Vlad will literally like hit me up and be like, yo, let me get their number. And I give it to him. And he does an interview. And I can do the same thing.

Everybody. Same with me and act. Whatever. Like, you know, yeah, granted, I want to get my fucking interview done. before you do, but I'm not going to like try to, you know, protect that shit, but he's salty at Remo, specifically, we heard, because he just feels like

because of us interviewing J. Main and shit, they're like, that's us kind of, I don't know, it's like, weird. I don't know who exactly he claims to be like the people that he really has this ownership over because J. Main blew up off C. Cheese. I don't know. Like, him saying that is like me doing that to him.

Because I could, in reality, I could say that. Because when he first started, not, not now. I feel like he gained his own style. and he's doing his own thing now and there's nothing like me but in the beginning he just was mimicking me everybody interviewed just went to go interview them it wasn't original it was nothing

like so it was like at that point I could have been like you're still in my shit you're still in my sauce like he literally told me that's why I don't understand why there's fake beef internet shit going on because it never was no beef with us I met him when he wasn't nobody

and treated him like he was somebody and tell him what to do because he was asking me he was like yeah I'm vying DJ so I'm only gonna work with just all the BDs. I can't work with no GDs, this and that. And that's how it started. And I was telling, like, I told him the pros and cons of both.

I'm like, if you do that, you're going to create a lot of enemies, and you're not going to have as much love or respect, but you'll be locked in with a beneficial crowd. So a lot of things that I won't get invited to, you will get invited to. A lot of relationships that I don't have, you will have. Because don't get me wrong, I get love for the majority of everybody. But it's certain people who, because they see me next to people, they don't want to work with me or be around me,

feel like they can't trust me, but they're not going to fuck on me as heavy. It's like, it's a business thing, but that's all I wanted was business. Yeah, it depends on, like, where you're going to end up in your career, because, yeah, it's dope to be like a little dark loyalist, but that's going to really limit you in terms of making the content. It might make Dirk really fuck with you. And what if Dirk fall off, then what? Exactly.

It might make, you know, because we don't know. History could change. It could be like a whole crop of lit GD rappers in the next fucking six months. You don't know. Just because it hasn't really been like that so much, it's like, Like, there's no reason why that couldn't happen. So for me, as an interviewer, that's my whole thing. Like, I used to try to be kind of, like, more selective and stuff.

And, like, you know, Vlad interviews snitches all the time. Fucking, I'll interview weird-ass people. Like, I'm not fucking trying to be, like, only fucking with the cool crowd. I feel like that's kind of a mistake as an interviewer. Yeah. Like, I was just talking about that before you came about the snitch of shit. It's crazy because I had to realize what I was doing didn't make sense. Like, people asked me, would you interview six now.

I'm in hell or hell, no, I wouldn't interview him. Then I think about I'm interviewing people like Butter and Fife, which is nowhere there's beneficial as interviewing 6'9. So it's like we all have interviewed snitchers to do it. Why not interview them? So now it's like if they were asking, yeah, I do it. Even if I don't agree with the things he'd do it, don't like them as a person because my personal feelings shouldn't affect the business.

I try not to do it, but it's kind of hard not to do it when you really dislike something. Well, it's weird because if every person, I've almost never heard a person who snitched do an interview and actually just admit fully that like, yeah, I snitch. They always have a crazy-ass story about it. Always like a crazy excuse. A lot of times you feel like it's just bullshit and you're kind of like, fuck, am I given like a platform to somebody

who's completely disconnected from the truth? But like in general, if you've been under enough pressure in your life that you had to snitch on your homies, I mean, that's an interesting fucking story because nobody wants to do that. If you end up in the position where you end up having to do that or feel like you need to do that,

I mean, I want to hear that fucking story, you know. So I don't know. It just depends on who, though. Like, since now, I just ain't like how you went about it. Like, I feel like you fucked up a lot of people lost. People don't think about, like, what snitching really do. It don't just put just dumb people in jail. You're taking fathers away from their kids.

You got a mother struggling. Like, people got to deal with this shit that was innocent. Right. Over something that y'all did and you got caught and you didn't just own up to it or shut up. Right. So that's why I kind of dislike the snitching because it's like it don't just only affect you. You fuck up so many other people with lives to say yours. Yeah.

So it's like it ain't even just, it's like a character thing. It's like I can't trust you as a person in no way because to say yourself, you will sacrifice everyone. But that's the thing is that when you interview somebody, you're just having a conversation with them on camera. It's not like you really fuck with them. It's not like they're really a friend. In some cases, they are your friend. and through doing interviews, I've definitely made a lot of friends. But it's like, at the end of the day, I would interview a serial killer.

I would interview someone who, you know, fucking murdered 100 kids. Like, I don't give a shit. Like, the conversation doesn't have anything to do with you being a good person, you know? If you're really a journalist, you know, everyone who works at the New York Times would have loved to do an Osama bin Laden interview, you know? I ain't going to allow, like, on some, like, learn some. long-term type of shit, like that's the type of shit I actually wanted to do. Like, I wanted to use what I'm doing as like a stepping store. Like, I wanted to do, like, some vice news type shit.

Well, like, I go interview people that people scared to interview. Go places people scared to go and just get some, like, real legendary shit. Like, go get the side of the story from the terrace. Because all we know is what we pushed and fared. Like, I even notice, like, I ain't too educated on the world with, like, that's going on with Israel and them. but I do notice when I go on YouTube, the eyes I see, and it's one side of it.

So it's like how I know that this is true, how I know our country ain't brainwashing us, or how I know our country ain't telling us that they bad, the same way they country telling us. I mean, that we're bad, so it's like I would want to go over there and get their side of the story and do things like that. I just don't know.

Is this you and Adams all first sit down since the whole thing happened with you and flukkah? I mean, I interviewed him, but, you've been on here. for sure. I feel like we should talk about that a little bit because it's all your fault. Yeah, right. I had Batman right there to save the day.

I ain't going to lie to realistically, you know, he ain't really say him. Like, because if we really wanted to do something, just him wasn't going to stop it. Like, my attention wasn't to come here and do that, which is why I stayed there so calm, so patient for an hour. because and another thing I noticed like I seen somebody say like oh he just thought he's tough because he had Ruga with him and he put the battery in his back they don't know Ruga was there that day yeah oh sure no Rugga was the person who who stopped me from doing anything because I ain't gonna lie once you told I even text you once you told me like

better yet Flacco's gonna be there you could talk to him I text him I was like are you gonna press charges about my hands on him then I was like LOL just playing but I was serious and then I thought about it and I'm like I can't say that because then I can't get next to him. So my attention at first was to come here on bullshit. And I was talking to Ruger, and he was telling me like, no, don't do that. Don't get on his platform and make a fool out of yourself. Like, he was telling me, like, you know what you're up against.

You're up against a multi-millionaire who want to end your career. He's going to go on multiple platforms trying to drag your name through the mud. You see what he's going on? No, I ain't going to say his name. But basically, at this point in time, like, the shit that was going on, I'm up against my fucker that's trying to drag my name. So he's like, yeah, yeah, you got a platform, but it's just you. You know, they stand in your, they hand out to you to work with you.

This is your chance to show people who you are, show people real. So that's why I stay so patient the whole time. Yeah, I will give you that. I mean, you had insane patience for the whole thing up until you didn't, you know? Like, it was pretty fucking impressive up until the moment that you couldn't handle it anymore. But, you know, normally in any normal situation, a guest put their hands on the host, I would be furious at the guest. Like, how could you possibly fucking do this?

How can you disrespect my workplace and stuff? But then I saw it in context and I was like, okay, it's hard for me to really be mad at 16 here. Yeah. So you feel like Flagel deserved it? I feel like he deserved more. I feel like he deserved more, though. He was asking for it about as much as you could possibly ask for it without literally asking for it. And it's unprovoked.

Like, it ain't like you had a reason. That's why I was so confused. That's why I thought he got paid because in my head I just couldn't comprehend why are you going so hard against me? What I do to you? Like, who are you? I ain't even know you.

I think I asked you like, who is he or some shit like that. And it's crazy because I was about to, like, show love to him at a point of time. And I seen that shit and it's like, I don't know, fuck dude. You feel like Kevau paid him though? Like, no.

If he didn't pay him, I can't comprehend like why you would just do that like that's that's weird like you just that weird he was going hard he's calling a call chaser over and over and over which is kind of a weird insult because it's like doesn't really like mean anything that's specific it's like you could say that about anybody who makes content you could just call him a cloud chase or whatever and he just like wouldn't let that go and I love the kid but I mean I can understand why you would have been fucking infuriated at that moment yeah let's take away that he pay him that aspect well what what was

would be a reason that makes sense to do all that if we don't know each other. I agree. People don't know the backstory behind a lot of that shit, but at the time when all this shit did pop off, I think A Slick was working underneath Flacco. I think I'm the one who originally posted the dime story between you and Ben and Kevill and all that shit. Then it led up to where Flacco and Adam got involved. I think Adam, if I'm telling the story, right, Adam came on a podcast, started talking

flaco about it and then the escalate it? No, I think Flacco was on the phone with somebody. But on the No Jumper Show next to Adam and song. You called in, right? Adam was there when I called. Well, I didn't call. They had called me. That's when I had said what I said about the... I want to cut this up, too, because I never

said that he fucked the grooving gorilla. I never even said... I wasn't saying anything about the grooving gorilla at all. I wasn't saying he gay and not gay. I don't know what he is. All I was saying was that dude shot his shot at him and this came from people around.

Like, you're saying Kevo did? Yeah. Shot his shot, like tried to holler at him? Yeah, like, that's what I was saying. I wasn't saying that Grooving Gorilla was gay. I wasn't saying that he fucked him none of that shot. He was saying Kevo was gay.

Yeah. I ain't, yeah. Wow. I never, never. Did the Groving Gorilla try to press you or something after that? No, it's just the reason. He never did nothing wrong to me, so I don't want him to think like I'm, you know, going in on, it's like he caught.

That's true. Yeah, I didn't mean for him to catch it because I wasn't saying he, you know, he did nothing. I wasn't saying anything about his actions. Nobody can even mention the grooving gorilla around me without me laughing because it's such a funny name and it makes me think about his big ass doing those dances and shit. It just every time it makes me fucking laugh. I'm just, I don't know. It's just such a weird name, too. Why you say Flago deserve more?

Because I just ran into each other at the party. Yeah, how'd that go? I walked up to him. I looked at, I was like, what's up, my boy? And somehow out and kept it moving. Oh, you were a real, real savage. That wasn't any no savage. It's like, I was really confused.

I'm like, when I'm looking at the guest list, I'm like, all right, you invited me, invited Flacco. I'm like, why would he do that? Well, I figured you guys would be able to hold it together. It's like, but I don't know if you understand, like, how much. much he played with me. It's like out of respect for you. That's the only reason I don't. Because it's like I'm knowing you spend money on this shit. I wouldn't want to just come in there and fuck up all that. Like I'm seeing what's going on. I ain't an ignorant person,

you know? But at the same time, it's like, it's hard to do things like that when somebody played with you so much. Probably on the internet playing with your name in front of hundreds of thousands to millions of people. And you finally get, you see them. You know, it's like. So did you guys come to any kind of understanding ever or was there any kind of communication? No, not positive. I kind of felt like it cooled down at a certain point, but I probably should have thought about that more. Yeah, I was

confused about that. I'm like, I... Because I know, like, content make money and go curse, I'm like, do he want this to happen? No. But then I'm like, this wouldn't pay for that. You know, I'm like, I'm smart, so I'm looking. I'm like, I'm seeing the shit that's going, like, that content wouldn't pay for this. So this can't be no...

Because I'm like, I just didn't get it, you know? Yeah. It's like with Krimack and Blueface. ain't had them yeah I didn't think I honestly just didn't even think about it I was like going through the list and just yeah I'm about 16 I wasn't even thinking about the flag going thing and then when I did think about it I was like that's not that big of the all right no I appreciate and but I had a good time yeah I'm glad that that didn't turn into anything but for sure I should I thought about it more nothing transpired I feel like maybe in the future it could

probably be some type of closure on that right you think you can ever just like have a sit down y'all too? What's the purpose though? Like this this won't be understanding like maybe like if we was friends before and then we fell out of a shit that makes sense but it's like if we was never friends why force a friendship. Like I don't know you I never knew you. So even if we do get past the point where it's like I lose the issue, you know I don't just be friends with people just because they exist like I got to see something and you don't want to be a friend with you. I ain't really saying I got to be friends but I feel like the people would definitely want to see y'all interaction, like y'all talk it out on camera type of shit.

Like maybe y'all ain't got to be friends and hang out after, but like a conversation about everything would probably be cool, right? You think the people want to see that? Some people for sure. I mean, that shit got like two million views or something, right? I got two million views. I think the people want to see me fuck him up. Well, I don't think I feel like you did what you're supposed to do.

I feel like Flacco was supposed to fuck you up. Yeah, that's another thing. That is the problem. It's kind of on him to do something. It's on. Flacco to do some. Yeah. You did what you did.

Like, I don't think you, I don't, what else should you do? I feel like it's kind of, I did what I did. I know I don't got to do nothing else, right? But it's just a simple fact of fucking goofy keep playing with me. It's like, bro, like, I just don't be comfortable with shit like that. That's all. Normally, I don't really go for too many conspiracy theories. And Flacco has, like, told me to my face that he didn't accept money from

Batman Kevo and them. But I'm not going to lie, I do find that theory kind of compelling because it's like there needs to be a reason why he went so hard on you. I just don't see him do that. Nobody amid taking money from them and saying, like, but I didn't have, like, I ain't going to say proof. Like, you see a payment proof. But, like, I don't have proof like,

these people are saying the same exact thing, about the same exact person. That's the same exact time about it. Folks in Flocko, or folks in Kevro were some of the only people that were really fucking with Flocko when he first came out here and shit, right? Like, they sort of like.

His manager or still leaves. Exactly. They kind of like saddled up next to him and were fucking with them, like, real early on. So I could imagine him. Even if it was a money thing, I could kind of imagine him feeling like he was doing that out of loyalty to them as well. Maybe. But was he signed to them before?

I don't think he knew them before then. He didn't. Oh, really? That came after? Literally are. Oh, that kind of folks that area. I posted up the Don. I posted 16 and Dom's situation.

And I think that same day, I think Kevah reached out to Flacco. And that's how Kevow and Flacco even got close. And then they built their friendship off of that. Everybody all see me went viral with a bandit to it. It all stemmed from him. Like, if you notice before that shit, my name wasn't attached to all this goofy-ass shit. It's stem from him. Like, a lot of people, most people, I feel like they stayed solid with a lot of shit.

But a lot of people, they pick the side with that shit. Like, they pick the money or they pick whatever. Like, me and DJU didn't, shouldn't have issues. We didn't have no issues. And I ain't going to lie. Like, he was telling me that this is why I was so confused about, like, how they say. like that is locked in because he was like sneak this in them the whole time saying like yeah they be chasing this shit they really don't like you they hate you you get under their

skin they they they're caught chasing this and that but then he'd go in an interview and say that about me with them or or with somebody I don't know who it was but it's like that was already weird to me but I found out the reason why it was I thought I thought it's because of Kevoh them but then I seen like they weren't in really fucking with each other But it was because I didn't do the interview. The interview I did here with Flaco, that made him mad because he had reached out to me. DJU. I turned down everybody's interview.

I wasn't doing interviews with people because at the time I didn't want to talk about Kevo. It was like, what was done was done. I feel like I was up. Like, fuck talking. I feel like they was chasing Colorado at that point. I didn't want to do it. But once Flacco did what he did and I talked to Adam, Adam was like, you know, coming no jumper.

and like I kind of had like a motive to want to do it at this point because he just did what he did it's a whole new situation but see that helps us like understand DJ you more is that like from day one like anything that we did that he wanted to do he just he can't help but get salty about that shit because the real reason why he's mad now is because we got Bezou before him and then he gets Bezu right after and Bezu's shit on his shit does not that great compared to the one that we did that did a shitload of views you know and it's like he might not say it but to me it's pretty obvious that he's the type of guy who just can't handle, you know, he wants a 16 interview and then 16 comes and does it with no jumper. Oh, he's mad at 16, you know?

But that's the thing like, I'll fuck with DJU, but I feel like that shit, that shit, like, it's not the right ad. It's not the right ad to. And it's on, like, it's almost on some lane shit. Like, even with me, he was like, he said, remote, he said, I invited him to no jumper to steal the formula from him to give it to Adam. Like, for one, fuck no. What do we learn from him when he was here? All right, let's keep, let's break it down. Like, I think I knew DJU before I even met Adam. Like, I met him in Georgia. Like, he came to my career while I was doing work for him and shit before I even met Adam

in a person. So, like, me and him had a relationship. So when he'd get on the internet and, like, instead of hitting me up and say shit like that, I'm like, damn, bro, because, like, I fuck with you heavy and shit. Like, I do shit with him. Like, I used to, you know what I'm saying? But he said that I invited him out here to No Jumper to give the formula of interviewing Chicago people to Adam.

Like, nigga, I was running your whole Instagram covering Chicago shit before any of this shit. So, like, I've been tapped in with Chicago, but I wouldn't need a DJU to take the, like, nigga. I was tapped in with Zach TV before you was doing this shit. So it wasn't even like a DJU thing. But to be real, he came out here because he said he wanted to see how no jumper operate and to see the type of shit. Like, you know what I'm saying?

He checked out the warehouse. He was like, interested with the iPad signing and shit. So I was like, come on, boy, don't put that on me. And I fuck with you, but it's like, nigga. He told me the same shit, bro. You don't run. I feel like this. You don't own Chicago niggas just to be like,

They shouldn't be, he said I'm running over to Chicago assault. It's natural. I fought with this shit. Why did he ask but a, like a few months ago what STL stood for? Like, there's been a bunch of times when I was listening to his interviews and he asked questions that I'm like, you're from Chicago and you're asking that question? Because I'm from fucking New Hampshire and I live in L.A. And I know they answer that question.

Like, it's not like, he's not like, it would be one thing if he had some incredible interview powers. Like, he was the best fucking interviewer. you're okay but you're not fucking nard warring it up out here bro I'm just gonna be real like

I think he might have just got got this shit too fast and mentally don't know how to deal with it yeah he feels territorial about something that's not really his yeah like even me like

how you feel though about like us doing Chicago interviews and shit I fuck with it because like when I do my interviews I really like did this shit

not just for my own benefit like i wanted to help the city i want to help people i worked with so like don't go on on other platforms and getting that shit like i'm with that shit and my eyes is like all right this another look like why would you be mad about that that's how you know like his purpose of doing it is just for self he just want that shit for him so it's like if it's not me i don't like it i don't think that way like cam capone has done a couple of interviews with clem who was from cTE with gz and shit back in the day I put up a post because I was like not wanting to ask Cam Capone for his info. I just put on Instagram like what's this guy's at?

Cam Capone hit him right away sends me his number like boom yeah yeah he was hyped for me to interview somebody that he's already interviewed a bunch of times even knowing that that interview might stop people from watching his interview clips or whatever but I mean that's one way to look at the other way to look at it is like oh they might get interested in him and then want to watch more of Cam Capone's interview clips with him but like the right mentality is to just support people and help them and help other people, like not to just be stingy and try to keep everything to yourself.

Like, anytime I interview somebody that you interviewed, I wasn't thinking like, oh, yeah, like 16's gonna be mad or I'm getting at 16. I tell him. He gets a fuck. Yeah. And he'd do the same for me. For sure.

Bro, like, shout out Alfonso, 6,700. Like, y'all got to check him out for real. Like, I did listen to it because somebody was telling us about about here. I forget, but I did just check him out. I think Rico might have brought him up. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Right, there you go, yeah.

Hard body, too. I need a hard body. I've been chopping it up when he want to come up here, for sure. But no, yeah, I don't know. I just feel like with the whole, he trying to say that, we ain't supposed to be, like, we're running off to Chicago sauce. Like, nigger, if anything, you ran off with Zach TV sauce thing. You know what I'm saying?

Because, like, come on, real, like. No, you can't say that. I mean, it's a different perspective. I fuck was Zach, but he ran out of my house games. Zach was outside. He ain't never. But that's what I'm saying, all right, for sure. But Zach TV, we want to kick.

He's the partner. He's going to interview, Chicago interview. but that ain't. So you're saying you're the first thing to have a warehouse and have a location? I ain't going to say all that goofy that shit

I don't know who the first and I don't care who the first. I'm talking about in Chicago not just in general but I don't know it's probably people that's doing this shit that I have no clue about.

But then why you say DJ you ran off of Chosawas like what he took from you specifically? Because he told me. Yeah but what was it specifically? The day I met him

I had no clue he was he asked for a picture he was like I look up to you I like your content he was like how you have multiple camera angles and you have a moving this and that I'm doing interviews.

I'm going to start doing the same thing. I said, I fuck with it. I didn't know who he was. I gave him advice. The first interview I sent of his was a blood-bath interview with a dude in jail. I DM him and said, I see your shit.

It popped up with my timeline. I mean, you're doing something right. Go crazy. Like, he told me this. Then he'd get on this platform and say, yeah, I'm the first person that got this. The only person that got this, I'm new to the city.

And it's like, bro, we didn't have this warehouse for two years at this point. Like, you just be lying. Even when y'all asked him, like, what's his issue with me? couldn't tell you he was like 16 do little whole shit what what does that mean what did I do yeah did you do anything that you can like I ain't do the interview so that's the main go watch the the first interview he did with bandman cabo and bifos and the second one the first one was when he

asked him doing an interview and I told him I wasn't doing them or whatever but it was it was still love because I didn't do another interview and that interview he bleaked out shit they said it's little beeps in the video all type of shit looking out the second one the whole energy changed I realized that at that point though but that's what made me kind of not fuck with him his energy in that video and it was like now I'm not working with you every time you reached out I just tell him now and I guess he took that person but it's like you I don't it's like I don't know why he's so sensitive with the shit like how he was just talking about camp compone when I did the interview that day with uh with floco and ad

can't compone was leaving out this bitch and camp compone was trying to do an interview with me and I was telling him I'm gonna get up with him and Never did. He seen me and never did no weird shit. The guy in his feelings. We still communicate. And like, you know, let each other know, shit, whatever. I got a question.

I hit him up. He asked it. And because the smart thing to do if you're someone who's doing interviews is not to just do every fucking interview at the same time. Like, if I were you, I would space the shit out, you know? Like, people burn themselves out by just doing every fucking podcast. And it's like, if I was you, I would want to kind of make each time that I went on a different podcast make it matter you know really have some important shit to talk about so it actually like

makes a dent you know i learn that from joe but i watch him when he when he does go on other people's podcast he's turning the fuck up he like he tries to really kind of steal the show and like really have something that he's going to bring to the table to make that appearance pop you know yeah you feel like uh yeah back to the bandman kevahs shit you feel like bama and kevah did so on your youtube channel though for real i don't i don't know honestly but i do know like it's I know when we got in two, I just started seeing a lot of weird shit, a lot of boxing shit. So it's like, why wouldn't it be him? Then if you go watch his interviews, he literally says it.

He says, like, you think I'm going to let him do this and this and that? And after he did that, you think I'm going to do that with all these mirrors and the resources I got? Like, he's telling him. He's saying the shit. It's just, I don't want to sit and fucking bitch and complain all the fucking day. Like, man, Capo did this. He did that. Like, no, I'm still decent.

I'm bro. Like, YouTube, Ben stopped. my biggest revenue source a minute ago, even before then. So it's like really not tripping over that shit. Do you have any regrets about interviewing his baby mama? Like, do you look at that differently at all now? No. Okay.

I don't think people really understand, like, all the shit they done did. Like, for me to, I don't give a fuck about that shit. Like, what would I regret? Well, I don't know. It just always seemed like kind of a very invasive way. way of sort of continuing the beef by just taking it to the furthest extreme of talking to the baby mama but i guess they were doing stuff more behind the scenes and then you did something like that like out on front street i think no it wasn't like behind scenes on front street i think y'all got it

confused with what that shit really was right i guess we just probably don't know about a lot of stuff i let the media paint whatever in there they wanted with that shit because i was really protecting her in the way like i would because i i got respect for it like i fuck her so it's like a lot of things they might say, I just let them say or whatever. But, like, I didn't have sex with her to get back at Kevow or be like, I fucked your bitch and none of that shit. It wasn't about that. You're just horny.

At that point, when we did, what we had did, me and Kevahoe beef was squashed. Like, so y'all had beef before you did, sleep with it all. I don't, I don't, I'm, it's been like a year or two years ago, so my timeline might be out, but from what I remember, I feel like when we did what we did with me and a girl, me and him wasn't into it at that point in time. Because from where I remember, top shot her from a 119, he from Little Mouse Hood, I fuck with him, and he fuck with big folks, and I wasn't trying to talk to Kevoh, but he was like, hold on,

just talk to his manager, this and that. This was why I was so confused why big folks just got to try to tee up and do all this clout chasing shit because he was like the peacemaker in the beginning. He was the one that killed everything. He was like, he put us on the phone. Kevo apologized. He said like, he explained why he did what he did. He just felt some type of way because he felt like I was hating on him coming at him.

Not knowing like that interview, my intentions wasn't to bash Kevo. I honestly was turning that interview down for some time because I didn't know who the fuck they was until somebody vouched for them. And then I called Kevo in a lie. So once I caught him in a lie, I'm like, I, he lying about knowing them. Maybe it's some truth to this. So I gave him a chance.

But, like... All right, that's a better question. Then, do you regret interviewing the dudes who said that Kevow snitched on them and they found out that he never really snitched on him? So you've... Because Flacco, the whole argument with you was, he was trying to say that that was bad journalism on your behalf. He was saying that you should have did your just dude

and not just have anybody on that was cloud chasing to get fame against Keva. So, like, do you regret doing that interview? No, because if y'all was saying that about me, then I could say that about y'all as a platform, that number on here and say anything about me. They said I slept on Billy Floor. They called me some of the worst shit you could call people. You know, it's like they said a lot of shit that wasn't true, a lot of shit that can be proven that ain't true.

So it's like, I ain't really say much about that because I understand, like, just because somebody say that, I don't put it on the people they're saying it too. But the difference between that is, Bandman and Kevin, was like already established so like you kind of gave some niggas who ain't really had a name at all to come on there and bash somebody so maybe that's where kevah like wow wow but why because they're only ain't the purpose of doing interviews to get people like like to spread this shit like regardless like why they got to be established like i like i actually prefer interview people that's not established and making that blow the interview the interview the interview the interviewer than

interviews established person because i feel like they appreciate them more it's more memorable it's more legendary it's like it's a bigger moment to me but i would like interview dirk and get a lot of It's like it's not it's impressive that you got dirt but it's not you know But were they like rapping or did they come on there just with that main story as like Yeah they was rapping. He wrapped in the interview. I just feel like and I'm not saying you did anything wrong at all but definitely like you can kind of come on here and say whatever about anyone that you don't get along with and I'm not going to really feel like it's on me to like fact check it or whatever but as soon as it's snitching

then it does feel like you know that just carries a lot more weight than like almost well obviously like that type of shit yeah you know or even if you were to just say someone's like a killer or some shit you know all of a sudden that's kind of like ah boy like are we putting a crazy ass accusation out there that might stick with them even if it gets proven to be not true or whatever because realistically it's probably not going to get proven to be true or not but you know I don't blame me for for doing it

but it's definitely like the snitch thing in general is something where I've had a lot of people want to come on here and accuse people being snitch. They look like it though. And unless there's like really good justification, it's like I'm always kind of cautious about that. It looked like it though. You got to understand like say if somebody's reaching out to you to do an interview and they want to say I was a snitch. And they told you they knew they knew me. They called a case with me. We used together.

and then when somebody asks me about them, I said I never met him. I don't know him. But then somebody like, look at this picture of us together. He wearing my shirt. We got rock boys together. But like, if you're lying about something. I have had that kind of thing happen.

And I say, go talk to 1090 Jake. Because basically, if it's going to be about a snitching allegation, it ain't really real unless one of these guys on YouTube really takes a fine, comb to the paper, which I'm just not going to do. That ain't what it's about, though. This is not, that interview was not about, let's suppose, Ben Man Kevo make him a snitch. That interview was a day life story.

That case was a big case in the city. A lot of car crackers and scammers got locked up together. Like, a lot of people got locked up. It's not just them. It's a lot of people to that story that I snitches and have snitched. See, this is why Band Man Kevro was very good at putting narratives together, though, because he had me thinking that these dudes were the most random, nobody's ever, just only brought there to talk about him.

Shit, he, he, he, he painted a picture that I'm just fucked up and sleep on the floor. When somebody say something like that, how do you believe anything they say? Like, he told y'all that he worked out and shit and y'all seen what he did. Like, how do you believe anything? He probably works out too, right? You can be working out, yes, but you've been dishonest if you're saying, this is how I got this way. Did you start the BBL rumor? I don't know who started that.

You definitely started that rumor. you definitely started I got to do some research That was kicking his ass for a while He was having to deal with that All right You said hold on what you said I started The rumor

I mean you put it out there You was the first person That it came from you And then it just Carried his own name after that Like everybody Y'all started talking about it But it definitely

It's such a viral idea That once people got it in their head They didn't want to let know of it I didn't But y'all see pictures and videos They came for somewhere I don't think it was a BBO I mean

And didn't Diamond send you the pictures? I had some research. Look at Saucy Santana and then look at Ben Mankev. These are very different asses. That's crazy. See, the BBL show, I'm going to keep it 100. I don't, I didn't know what, like, you just labeled it?

BBL is this, this, I don't even hate, because they talked about his ass for like 30 minutes last time. I don't keep talking about his ass. But this basically is like the situation with that shit. I got the pictures. From where I got the pictures from. I've seen the shit. I was told what I was told.

Pictures or what, though? Pictures that was on the internet, of the surgery and the videos and all that. For sure. So it's like, I don't know what the name of procedure is. All I was saying was they did something to his ass. That's all I was saying.

I wasn't saying, like, oh, he wanted to get his shit thicker and this and that. What I was told was he originally just got lipop, upper body. Yeah. The bottom half didn't look right. It was like you got a nice, a body and you got a fat person bottom half.

So I was told he asked for a bodybuilder booty. And however you do that, I don't know if that's a BBL, I don't know if there's light pole on your eye, I don't know how they do that shit. But it was something done to your ass. I don't think. So you're saying that he... You don't got to think it's a fucking video and picture of this

shit. Nah, so he said, I want a bodybuilder booty. Yes. Come on, man. Think about it, bro. If you fat as hell, if you fat as hell, you're fat as hell everywhere. Yeah. Where do this How do this go away? A lot of bodybuilding competitions

When I used to kind of pay attention to that The ass is a huge focus Like the Like because they are so low body fat That they can see like the definition Of the muscles in your ass And I remember reading like Comment sections of people being like

Oh look at his Look at his glutes AKA his ass like fucking just judging And I was like this is such a weird sport That people are that concerned about like how your butt looks and they don't wear those little thongs and shit anyway sorry

yeah but he still say like he ain't ever got a BBL was just lipo I don't even care but you whatever he said credit though like you kind of did form that narrative so maybe because I was always thinking like he didn't credit for nothing he he came clean himself and said that

he he won't but he never said it was a BBL though he just said it was Lipo right whatever he said that's what happened he won't have said the rumor said that he told the word he did that that's what he did hi shit shout out de kevo and uh big folks too though and ain't because i know the nigs gonna be watching this shit

i don't want no credit for nothing though shit yeah i feel like all right so how do you feel about uh let's break something out trench uh baby got arrested recently i know you've seen now on the news and shit

how you feel about trench baby getting arrested in north Hollywood because that that fucked remo up because remo was not no don't say that Don't say that. Don't say that. The niggas gonna be putting two and two together. Remo was hanging out of somebody's house not too far when that happened. Tight shit.

Damn. And so he was like, God damn, bro. He's like, I moved out here and shit really going on. I don't know. That's fucked up. That's how I could say. I don't really want to say too much because I don't know too much. And it's an open investigation.

But like, it's fucked up because on the outside looking at it? No. I just know like on the outside looking at it. It looked like he made it out. His brother made it out. We had gone back and forth about doing the interview a few months ago. So I really missed out. I ain't really know him, though.

So it ain't really wants to say. It's just fucked up to see. You know the 757 kid who got killed? Mm-mm. Mm-hmm. I know when I interviewed Blasjindal that she was hurt about that shit. Yeah, that's Blasjindal, homie. Yeah.

I don't really know who it up. Like, when I seen what happened, that was my first time seeing that name. What about you and Polo G? because I remember a long time ago, you and Polo G really didn't have the best relationship. Oh, because you put out a disc song about them like on your channel, right? Not you, but you shot the video.

Yeah, I got booked for a video. But I ain't gonna lie. That was, like I said, that was early on my career. That was early. That was so early to the point. Polo was reaching out to me asking me, do I shoot videos and do interviews? So it's like that early.

So it's like I'm not really up on like how all this shit go. I'm just knowing you pay me for service on doing it. I'm not moving with emotions. I'm not even thinking about none of this shit. When I put up to the video, I didn't even know this what I was shooting. But I'm seeing all the other cameramen shoot these videos. I thought this was part of the game. Shit. And me and Polo had an interview set up, but after that, he didn't show up. And I understand why. Like I say, I never got mad at him for not showing up. I honestly still fuck with him because, like I say, he never did nothing to try to hold me back.

I just interviewed his sister. But we don't got like no friendship relationship. We just got like mutual friends. Where's O.T. Kump at? You say you got arrested recently because that's the video it was for it. Yeah. Oh, yeah, O.T. Kump. Shout out of O.T. Kump.

You definitely broke him because that's the first I might even see him was on your page. I ain't a lot. That's all he did. I forgot the name of it, the video you shot. But he was talking crazy in the video. That was around the time. Everybody was doing that 51 Dead Ops. It was just like a...

Oh, that's what, yeah, he did remix it. yeah all right for sure like a wave that's why i thought should everybody doing this shit but i understand the issue was it's not the idea of the video it's the way the video is edited because once i edited i sent it to them but they had you edit in like disrespectful disrespectful shit yeah and i think people took that as like me and it's like you send a video back and they see your time stamps with videos and pictures like put this head this and there i don't know maybe and when i like for one i rewind and look back, I probably could have denied it.

But I didn't think that's how the camera game went. I thought people pay you and you do what they ask for. Like, I'd be mad if I pay somebody for a video and you tell me like, yeah, I'm not doing that. I mean, in 99% of video editing or video production or entertainment, that would be the case. Drill rappers would be like the one situation where that might be different. But I remember even like, I remember a few situations over the years or a rapper had beef with a producer for making a beat that they got dissing. on. But if you think about that, like, the producer is really not involved with what the

fuck the rapper ends up doing with the beat once he makes it, you know? That's how Chicago wears for real, though. Like, they'd be mad at people who make beats. They'd be mad at people who make clothes. Like, too many people wear this clothing brand, they're not going to wear that clothing brand. It's like, that shit. I don't understand that shit. That's weird.

That's one thing with Desto Dub and the Offlocked Officer, because I've always observed how he has to stay super impartial. And it's like that's a rare thing To have a clothing line in LA That the bloods and the crips And whoever fuck with it like Everybody fuck with it type shit Yeah

Because he don't really Even though he fucks with certain people More than other people He never makes it like he's in the middle Of the shit which I think is smart Yeah it's saying like A lot of places they let you do that shit But like Chicago people let you do it for the most part

But a lot of people don't Fuck with that shit And I don't get it Unless like it's a survival thing I understand not want to be around people Who around people that want to harm you Like, that's an uncomfortable feeling. But to not wear they clothes and go to that extent, that's weird.

Recently, probably, like, maybe like three weeks ago, I seen you post, like, a story. Because you had the warehouse in Chicago. What was it called? HQ Chicago. Our HQ Chicago, where everybody, I think even the Muscatoo Girls shot, like, they famous videos, and everybody used to come through and shoot there.

But you posted the other day, you was, like, I no longer am associated with the studio, and you ain't really fucking with everybody. No, I ain't going to say. I ain't fuck with everybody. I'm fucking with the majority of them. It's just. So what happened with?

Because now you don't, is that studio still there? No. It's a new one, though. Well, I'm saying that location is still there. They still using it, but it's not only the same name. It's a new location, too. That's you own? No, it's, whatever that other shit is, I have nothing to do with that.

That's a whole new business. They just ran with the same name. But you was a part of that business. It was you, Billy. Yeah, but what I'm telling you is, That's not the same business. What's going on now? They ran with that name because the notoriety came.

But they changed locations? We agreed to shut the business down. We closed it. So they kind of did some snake shit by, like, just keep running with the name that you helped build. We did a lot of shit. They ran off with all the equipment that was in the... When we first opened that shit up, our first month, I believe we probably made, like... I'd be forgetting.

It was like we had 20,000, 30,000. $40,000 months type of shit, you know, with no equipment, just empty. So it was like this happening within the first month, this shit going crazy. But we wasn't putting the money in our pockets. We was putting it back into the business so we can, you know, have stuff. Buy more prof, shit like that. The price of wood was high. And we need a lot of wood for these sets.

So a lot of this shit is going into this so we can build, you know. So imagine like for, uh, And in the beginning, a lot of us didn't have LCs and shit like that. Billy, which was my homie, and exclusive, which was Billy, homie. I didn't know him. It was an exclusive dream to do this. Like, this was what he wanted to do. This was one of his dreams.

So this is something that he wanted to do. He thought of it, whatever. And they brought it to us. And with us not having the HQ Chicago LLC or whatever, they had an LEC called Boot Up Media. So this is how they're able to move into this building under this. So they got the business bank account under that. Mind you, we all own us.

But they got the business bank account under a whole other LLC. And from the beginning, I've been asking for access to it, and they'd be spending me. I'm asked for the check statements they're spending me. And other people in a group, they want to operate off of the, these are our homies, just trust them thing. And I feel like when you're doing business, You shouldn't rely if this is your homie, like, fuck that. Because if you're doing good business, it shouldn't be nothing to hide. So for the first two years, we invest in money into the building, whatever, bullshit.

We're not paying ourselves. Now when we close it, we agree to end it because, you know, it's not going how we want it to go no more or whatever. These people, they said we're going to throw the equipment away because there's no talks about another location. They take all that equipment Mind you this is what we're working for for two years To put this in here We're not putting this money in our pocket You're putting it in a building

They take all that shit and bring us to another location Take the name Which not being cocky Because I'm not to be humble But I'm gonna be honest Like my name's what push that Don't none of them have a face or a name Billy can't do but he don't even show his face

A talk so he don't have that same effect So it's like HQ Chicago When people go to they think of 16 So to take all the equipment Not tell us Form another business with Three of y'all or some shit shit and had the rest of us just out not knowing that's it's slaked out you just you just stole and you

ran with the name like I don't care if you start new business because we agreed to end it I didn't want to do this no more yeah you can start new business but why take the name when it's attached to me so I was just posting that just to tell people I wasn't saying don't go just don't go thinking you support me like if you want to go and you want to use it cool but a lot of people do it to support me and I didn't want that to be the case no more. Yeah, I had a lot of famous shit happening in that studio though, like a lot of moments. Like, one of the biggest moments from Chicago is the Muscatoo Girls performing. I mean, they did this song and recorded the video there, right?

Yeah. And then. It was crazy shit. Then you was there when they shot it? Yeah. All right, for show. Then months later, they ended up breaking up. It ain't the same.

Mello, Amari and all them, beefing and shit. How do you feel about? Amari and Melo recently getting into a fight. Getting thrown through a glass window. Yeah, well, I hated to see that because I like them together. I ain't, I don't like that beep shit with them.

They all talented. I ain't really like to see that shit. Was she all right after she went through that window? Amari? Yeah, she got cut up and shit. She's healing and shit, but I talked to her. She said she's going to come up here. Oh, that would be cool.

That was a brutal video. I'm not used to seeing girls do shit like that to each other. Yeah, Mello out here and be packing shit. I don't know, right? What's so with Mello? So she, Yeah, leave mellow alone, man. Yeah, Melo out here going crazy.

She's a boogeyman, huh? Man, what's it? Boogie woman. But, yeah, I don't, I like, I just like their music. I like her music. Yeah. I feel like Mello, Cash, Amari, Moni Autumn. They all go crazy.

Freddy Leah. Kiglo, it's a couple girls that's, like, they might not be as popular, but they, they hard. Like, I like the wave with the women right now. No, for sure. Shout out to everybody in Chicago. All the females, they got a wave going on. with a I fuck with a cast show.

I'm a homie, C, C, C, C, Hart. All right, sorry. Another moment you had in that studio is, I think this created the butter books. Yeah, it did he break in the studio, or he stole it while he was just in there? Alright, I'm gonna tell ya out of truth with this shit, because I'm really gonna be giving the fuck,

so sometimes I just let the internet run with whatever narrative, it'd be so goofy to me. Butter never stole nothing from me. The thing with butter was like, I don't know something about him I like I ain't gonna lie like even though he do all the goofy shit like I fuck with him we don't get like the best friendship or relationship but we're not enemies either

but like he's a piece of shit but I love his interviews I click on the clips all the time he's fucking hilarious yeah so that's that's what I mean like so it's like when he got caught to fake money somebody j-paid which is crazy it kind of hurt me I had to treat him how I did because he was somebody to support it from the beginning and it's like

he told butter that I suppose he had fake jury or fake money or some shit like that and uh butter just reacted and went on the interview and called me a bitch

and got the going off so now I respond and this is my real response but then eventually we talk behind the scenes and I ask him like bro like what the fuck is going on okay and he like

yeah Jay Pay told me that you put this out and this and that so you know I wouldn't fuck with that I'm like hold on JPade I said that on live no you ain't tell me that I got to treat them so now

me and butter is no smoke it's like I should I ain't know he tell me basically like at this point I'm just trolling again like I'm trying to get my foot in the door like yeah I'm trying to get some money in this shit bro it's just internet content shit I'm like so I tell him like all right let's play ball I don't get no fuck

don't get mad get money so when he actually did get caught with fake money and fake jewelry and when he said he took it from me I let him wrong with it because I'm not out to hurt or harm butter or kill his reputation so if you say you stole it from me protects your reputation from getting called with fake

money it's funny to me you stole fake money from me let you wrong with it like what the fuck? And uh better just be lying bro that's all like let it be line butter a legend of all focal butter how you feel about Adam and butter going back and focus? Because he's going crazy he tried to get out but

this the thing like I watched it he didn't lie about taking it it's just they got y'all got it back but who account was that from was it from his or j-pace? Because there was some j-pays And he got an old J-P-some money. He's fucked. I still don't know what him

posting the negative $3,000 balance is supposed to prove. You said to post the plus, dude. Because I just double-checked with Josh's shit and they made sure, like, he didn't actually get any money for us, right? And he confirmed. Can I get some money for y'all?

It's a weird, well, he needed a flight. I need a flight, too. And I was money. I just spent my flight at home is like $550. I'll give you a fucking $200 food voucher to Costco. but I don't know that that was a weird one too

because it's like if you're doing business like I would never brag about ripping somebody off you know like I would never like ever even think of that like that's the exact thing that you don't want people to think about you if you're in the entertainment industry

like you could get a quick one up on somebody by you know I've heard about rappers robbing the cameraman and shit over the years guess what you're never going to be able to fucking shoot a video again everybody's going to talk about it's going to go viral online same thing with me like I can't fucking tell somebody i'm going to pay him for an interview and then just not pay him like i can't like it was gonna fuck my image up with everybody else that i'm trying to run this with for sure but i i get why

he did it though yeah because like that's his home uskis his homie yeah but i like this is why i's so retarded on his end is because me and butter had a whole phone conversation he never mentioned wuski once he just swore up and down and i kind of understand from watching the interviews and he all fucked up he's on e-pills and shit all the time like you know he probably don't remember what the fuck he was gonna call me about and then he gets on the phone he's just apologizing for missing the first interview date and like the whiskey thing like yeah okay me and whiskey had this little back-in-front and shit but it ain't that serious like he's supposed to come and do that interview he's been talking about coming to do that interview some shit you'll be taking fall with this shit though like I don't think

you understand like how people might really feel like yeah people be killing for less than this shit back home for real like so when you say he changed something different like I'm pretty sure somebody else that said they probably got shot already behind that shit. So even when you're saying like they're going to do an interview, like can you really even trust that? Can you trust that they're going to come here and really just do an interview? We'll have extra security that. From their head that they respect like that. Like, it's a dangerous game.

Like, I don't know. Maybe it might be different for you, but I don't think I could do that and just do interviews and be safe. My whole thing, everybody makes it like I just started bullying whiskey out of the middle of nowhere. He showed up in my DM saying all this crazy shit about my wife. But before he said that you said something about him on him. But the thing I said was so minimal. I just told Cairo that he probably didn't want to have

whiskey vibes. Because he was talking about Sean Cotton saying Cairo don't seem like he has whiskey vibes, aka Cairo don't seem like a killer. Also, so you're saying like killer vibes, not like some wrong vibes. If I had to be honest, if you watch back the clip, I was kind of saying like,

I don't think you want to have whiskey vibes these days. Yeah, that's... So, okay, I can understand how that's a little offensive, but then he turns it up because that's minor. Then he turns up on me big time in the DMs. And then granted, I did take it to another level by kind of poking fun at his condition or whatever.

But I don't know. In the other case, I'd be like, yeah, he played with your wife. You do what you do, but it's like, what he said, you got a whole fucking show about who's gonna hit with you next. And I understand. You're right. I have to be able to take some jokes and shit to an extent that people, that normal people don't.

You know, I understand that. But be real, like, when you do it, Like do stuff like that or how that going off? Do you like honestly 100% be comfortable for real? Or is it like, is it a thing where it's like you do your thing and you're just being real like damn, I can't just not be fair with this shit? Well, like a specific moment, like when Crip Matt grabbed her ass on the reality show.

There's a part of me that was like, I'm mad. You grab my girl's ass. And then there's another part of me, it's like, well, yeah, you made a whole reality. show to like fuck your girl with another dude. This is content. He's never done this in real life before when he met her. He's just doing this now because it's on camera. So whatever.

If you mad, I think that's because Crimack don't got a chance for real. He probably is dead for the entertainment. How you do? Crimack got a chance, keep on. No comment. I don't see it. I can't say who won. Oh, it's already a winner. No. Episode one and two are out. Three comes out next Monday. Was the winner already picked before the... No. We were still

going back and forth. up until the last minute. So what the term is like, who wins? It ended up being like a lot personality and like star power more than anything else, I think. So tune in next Monday. Remo type shit. You take credit for helping Bill Tate Savage's up because, uh. Helping, yeah, but I would take credit because without him living his life, how he did.

Yeah. It wasn't. So, you know, he did. It's just, eh. The city, Biddle, but maybe, like, the masses the world that don't know about Chicago, I played a part in the beginning. You got to love him. Great guy.

You, for sure, definitely played a part in it because... Great American. You, a moment with the Tate Savage shit, it was... I think he did his first interview with you. No, he did the first interview with, maybe with DJU. Then he came back into the interview with you, right? Yeah. But your interview with him kind of turned up.

And I remember one day you sent me a clip. You was like, hey, this is a dude named Tate Savage. you got to check his story out. You remember that, right? And at first... Rimo sat me down and showed me like five fucking YouTube videos in a row to explain the Blazendahl, Tay Savage, et cetera, storyline. And that's what 16 was telling me,

because I didn't know Tate Savage at first. He was tapped in. I didn't know everybody. I sent it to academics. A lot of people... And nobody ran with it. Yeah, but I'd be knowing, like, I'm trying to play out of Lah, if y'all want to catch it.

Fuck it. So then when you sent me the story, I didn't post it for, like, a day because i was like i don't think the fans really gonna know tay is and shit and then i went and watched the clip and that's when i was like oh shit this is some crazy shit so i posted that shit and then i think right after i think act say cheese and everybody like follow suit and tay went viral like after that so like then recently you and tay was on live and y'all kind of got back and got a little back and forth and shit why he was mad at you in the first place

uh just the title of the interview he ain't want his name next to shit like that. He explained it to me. I understood. He basically like, like, niggas like them, like, they didn't know a war for this shit.

All you got is your name. You know, like, with this shit, you get all fucked up shit, you get jail, you get death, you get, you can't lay your life regular.

You get shot at, so it's like, the one thing I do got is my name, don't play with it. And I understood that. Even though my intention wasn't to play with,

I understand, it's like, you went through all this shit, and then you come home and you see that, that's gonna piss you off. What was the title? 0-5-1

I don't know the exact title It was like something with O-File 1 kiddo calling him a snitch Oh, okay, yeah That's a tricky one Even putting the title of like Someone's saying that someone's a snitch When you don't know it

It's like so Even if you write allegedly It still just kind of feels like Fuck, this feels like me calling him a snitch But there's the thing like I don't know, maybe I'm just not realizing the power of the platformers and shit But I feel like people should have their own fucking

brains and like think for their selves because like I'm not the news I'm not seeing in I'm not like this shit is for y'all to be entertained and watch people's stories and boost people careers this is not when you see this person say this is just oh yeah it got to be the truth like it's how can you just verify everything like I didn't sign up for that I started to do interviews people be putting so many other titles and jobs on me that I didn't sign up Yeah. Like even a blogger, I started blogging because they called me a blogger.

I wasn't blogger. I just did interviews. Hmm. I had to go look at what a blogger was and started doing that shit because they were called me the shit. Did the Blasjian doll feeling type of way about the taste average interview? Like, what's you and her friendship or relationship like right now? We're good, but I ain't going to lie.

Like, I had talked to her to apologize to it behind the scenes and on camera. But I had, uh. You had dropped the video of Tate Savage on Mother's Day Yeah Which is kind of like It wasn't intentional But you know how you like Pre-plan your rollout

Like this day this day this day That day that day Each video One of those days was Mother's Day But the fucked up part was the part about her mother Was that video that dropped And I didn't realize it Until I got a phone call

From her manager He was like, damn game on Mother's Day And I'm like damn I ain't mean to do that I can say that That shit is like It feels kind of shitty Talking about that whole

storyline because even though Everybody involved Has fucking videos about them online And shit It's like just knowing That Blazendahl Kind of like has to sort of relive Losing her mom

Probably through this being A topic over the last few months or whatever That just feels kind of dark Just having a young girl Especially having a just sort of relive that. But at the same time, I mean, it's a fair fucking story to tell you.

You can't really tell the story I taste savage without talking about this shit. Yeah, that was the thing. That's why I was like, I feel for her because that's not easy to deal with. Especially, like, I don't know if he did or didn't, but that's who they accused of doing it.

And you see somebody that come home and be successful off of it. It's like, that's why when people talk about her and say, like, She needs to stay in a girl's place and this and that. Like, I don't think they understand, like, how that feel for real. I'm not saying what she's doing is right, but it's like, your mama died, and you got to grow without your mama, and now you've got to see this shit,

and be reminded every fucking day. Like, how do you just be regular and be what a woman should be? Like, how don't you grow up with hate? And you understand why girls from Chicago are, you know, fundamentally fucking different. Why are different? A lot of the girls that grow up around that street shit, been that's why everybody different a lot of people just hurt people don't people think people

just evil or fucked up people and it's just like this shit hurts and you imagine like you live in your neighborhood and somebody killed one of your closest friends or your brother and you know who did it and they only a few blocks away and they're rapping and you know on YouTube and shit yeah it's like that's hard not to it's hard to know that shit hmm yeah another thing early on I probably like a year ago You know how FYBJ Man was showing? This is before everybody really knew who FYBJMN was. Like before I think his major S.H.E. interviews and shit.

He had made a video claiming that Dirt got, made his YouTube. Remember he made a video saying that Dirk got his YouTube channel taken away and shit, right? Man, Dirk, why do you take his channel? So I had posted it and it was like, I think the title was like, Little Dirk copyrighted F.R.B.J. Main's page and got his page taken away. But come to find out that FYBJ man was trolling the whole time. And you hit me with a DM and you said, yo, fucking my boy want to holl at you

because he wanted to tell you the truth of really what happened. And this at the time, I didn't know who Did you Prada was. But it was Stunky Man this whole time. Early on, like a whole year ago and now everything just all makes sense. And hindsight, so like how are you in Thunkey Man? Well, did you, how y'all was cool anyway? Like, where are you friends from? I met him through PBJ chemo like early on.

I had got a book for a video with him, and we had put up the Dizzy crib. And I ain't know what he was. I just ain't hell of weed over there. But he had gotten into him. We networked. We chopped it up. And I don't know. We just got cool.

He's kicking or whatever. And we basically was on the same type of time. We both hungry. We were both in work mode. So we're taking church together. We networking off each other. I'm showing him my resources. He's showing me his.

he's a producer so he got connections with artists so we might take a trip and all the people i'm working with i put him in tune with all the people he worked where he put me in tune with we got a good thing going we's doing the same thing with billy yeah that's how we kind of like gained our relationship we was just working and you know he's friends cool at the same time how do you feel about how like jane took his career like to the next level with all the the the trolling the over-animated interviews and shit like he dressing up like a nurse yeah i ain't going to like Jayman grew on me. At first, I ain't, I ain't liked the shit at first. But, like, once he started making me laugh, it grew on me. Like, when he was doing this shit, like, putting a dress in

and act like King Van, I ain't really liked that shit for real. And it wasn't like, I didn't like him for it. I just really wasn't, it wasn't no shit I really cared to watch. But, like, now, he made an entertainer. Well, like, even if you don't like him, you're done not going to watch it and laugh. Like, how, a lot of people don't like Charleston White, but they don't watch that shit because he just found a way to make you laugh about shit sometimes or he might say some real shit. Yeah. It was a long road to the

top for Jayman. He was doing all kinds of crazy shit and it wasn't really 100% hitting. Yeah, like Jay Man, I ain't gonna lie. He just kept at it, man. I always been up on him. And I always been willing to work with him, but he definitely switched where he was at. Like, it was a point of time when

I traveled and I might come to Vegas and he might be out there I might come, whatever, he might be out that way. And my reason for coming out there wasn't for him, but my attention was to work with him, but it'd be like, I got to handle what I can for. And then by the time we done it's two, three in the morning, I'm tired. I'd never be able to get up with him. So like, the way, I fuck with how he grew because he went from basically somebody like that

that I wanted to work with, but it's like, it's not the priority. So I had him up, and he's like, uh, 2,500. Then he's like, 5,000. It's like, all right. He elevated. Bro, it went from, I ain't, I ain't had a time for you to, I got to pay to sit in front of you. And I ain't mad about that. Like, it's growth.

He definitely did this shit. Like, he's going crazy. You think he's oversaturating himself right now? Probably. But I don't know. I don't know, like, how long it could last. Maybe it can if he just never run out of this shit. I mean, he did no jumper and did, like, something like two million on the main interview,

and then, like, a shit load more on the clips. But, I mean, I still seem doing pretty good numbers on say cheese and shit. kind of wonder, like, is he just kind of over whooping? And are other people maybe, because I've seen some interviews of his that I was like, oh, that seems like it's going to do real good. And then when I go look at the views a week later, I'm like, oh, maybe people are feeling like he's a little oversaturated. I feel like as long as he keeps reinventing himself, he probably will be good.

Yeah. Like, once one thing get dry, has something else already in the chamber to come with. Yeah, I'm not going to lie. Like, I feel like there's been moments lately where he's gotten a little bit, lazy with it or he's kind of like just showed up to an interview like real high like not really like pushing the envelope which i feel like he kind of has to to maintain the standard that he's had like he's got a fucking while out and like say a bunch of new shit bring some new shit to the table y'all ain't uh like sign them hmm y'all ain't sign them with no jumping i mean it's hard to sign

somebody when they're really like kind of surging and you know they're getting 5 000 for interviews left and right that kind of makes them feel like Like if they want to be exclusive to us, then we're going to have to really be coming out of pocket. So maybe as time goes by, because my honest opinion is that I feel like he needs to just, whether it's with us or whether it's on himself, I feel like he needs to just do a fucking podcast and like really work on being a serious conversationalist. Yeah, he's doing interviews now. Yeah.

I just saying them, I fuck with them. Yeah. I mean, he's smart. He's seeing what we're doing and he's like, oh, fuck, I can do that. You know, I'm sure know people. That's been my advice to him from, like, the beginning. I was telling him, like, I wanted him to hop in, like, to be a journalist in this shit.

So he's taking that shit and he's definitely doing this shit. Like, he got the whoop channel. Have you seen he got the logo on the bottom? So he's doing this shit. I feel like he could go far out there because, like, not only how you interview on people, you make an entertain. So it makes it different. You know, I like everybody else.

It ain't like me. I mean, what I do so is, like, that's a whole other lane. You feel like Chicago is getting overshunders. saturated with people doing interviews. I don't think, I don't mind people doing interviews. I don't like anybody could do them. But like, I don't like when, like,

because now I got the same person is getting an interview over and over and over. It made me not want to do it. And it might be somebody I want to interview, but it's like, if it's seven interviews out with that person, with y'all, with DJU, with Cam Capone, with truth tellers, like. And especially if you can't think of anything

interesting or different to bring to the table. It's like that for me a lot of times I'll have to say no to somebody who's the fucking a big deal I know you could do some views but it's like if I don't have anything new to bring the table Why the fuck am I gonna fill up this hour? You know? Yeah I don't That's I don't know that's why I've been trying to do a little different shit like Interview people that people don't really know but their story is a story that

They need the air type shit like well that's the funny thing about Chicago now is that it's so competitive that Anybody who's done anything has got a fucking interview out. You know, it's like you've got to really scrape the surface to find people that are interesting or have stories that are worth telling that haven't already been done, you know? I wish it was like,

how do I say, like more things. I wish it was easier to push the music. Because if I could do that or figure out a way to do that, I would. Because it take away like a lot of the BS and all that shit. But even the artists want that, but I don't think they understand. Like, if I just sit there and talk about the music all day,

they ain't what they're coming to see. That's tough. If they want to hear about your music, they're going to listen to it. When they come to the interview, I feel like they come in to see you or what's going on. So I was thinking about starting like a cipher in a city, like, on some make Chicago rap again and just make it full of like the, it's not going to be based off of like who you know where you're from, clout or nothing, just strictly talent.

Like if you're not outstanding to me, not going to be on there and have people rap. That is a good idea because like all the drill type platforms, none of them really focus on the music. So and there's a lot of like platforms that are doing shit now with like people performing and, you know, the on the block shit and everything. Like if you were able to make something that look good and that was able to like really kind of emphasize the actual rapping, I feel like that would be people would be excited about that. Yeah. because I don't see nothing like that. Like something similar to double Xcel, like a Seifle, good production. But not like double XL because I feel like they,

I feel like they be doing shit based off of clout because I have seen some performances I ain't understand. It's like I understand why they hear because I know they're doing their thing in the music industry and they're popular and they probably make good music. But they're not for a cypher. It would be tough on you, though, the politics of having a bunch of drill rappers and shit. I don't think so because like a lot of drill rappers

wouldn't even be the ones that would be on there. Oh, okay. It's like, some of them can because some of them actually have, like, a real talent outside of, like, a lot of them, I feel like not rappers, for real. Like, they know how to make things sound good on the beat. Like, Little Uzi, to me,

I don't believe, like, he's a real rapper, a good rapper, but whatever the fuck he's doing is great. It makes sense. He's making it work. Like, it sounds good on the beat. But if you told Little Uzi, like, no beat just rap right now, it's not going to be like,

if you told a real rapper to do that. So, like, that's what I'm trying to get on there, like people who can really rap. Like, a lot of people in my interviews of biased on the rap, they just going to want to play a song. So, like, yeah, it's going to be drill artists that do that, but it ain't going to be a drill thing. It's going to be, can you rap?

Have you ever talked to Herb since the Cairo interview? Yeah, I never talked to Herb ever. Like, I know his people like Gee Money, he followed me and shit. Yeah. And I had dumped him, but we ain't, We ain't really talk like that for real, for real. But I don't really know the status of that for real. He never ever even responded to the interview

unless somebody, like, tried to force it on him. He ain't never really responded to the shit. What you thought about his funny Marco interview? I feel like they, uh, I don't know what's going on with that shit because the way they make it, it's like the way the media painting him right now, it's like they painted him like he's just going around crashing out, doing crazy shit.

But from what it looked like to me, it looked like all that shit was supposed to happen like that. I thought they planned that shit. What you mean? Like, with him and Marco? Yeah. Because I seen a video at him backstage before the interview talking about like, yeah,

yeah, I'm going to do this. I'm going to tap his pockets, this and that. So it's like, if you had this beforehand, how did he come to the interview late? Because in the interview, he came late. How was you late if he was here before the interview started? I feel like that shit was all like just to go viral. That's a show that he troll on anyway. Because now sometimes you do it.

interview, people come in with shit that they want to say to you to try to go viral. And then sometimes people are like straight up playing a character in order to try to go viral, you know? Like, I've had this happen multiple times and it's always kind of weird when people like show up with this whole little plan and this like skit that they're basically going to like impose upon you in the interview. But I thought, I thought he wanted them to do that or something though, is what I'm saying. I kind of felt like that too.

Like I felt like it was welcome that he was just playing along with the shit, you know? but then it did seem like they kind of took it too far Yeah like I think the parr was too far And he threw the cup And I think he realized that And that's why he like on my bag And he gave him a hug and shit Right

He's probably tipsy He probably went a little overboard But I thought that was Playing even the shit with the The girls versus him And he was there like talking shit Like ain't that how those videos go Ain't that people doing those videos

They troll they talk shit Like why is it such a big deal that he did Why the media are painting it Like he just crashing up Is it because he drinking? I think people think he crashed out because he's from to go to jail So I think he got a lot of pressure and shit

So people are just Assuming that he's going to do a lot of stress And maybe the jail time's like Waying on him or something I mean that could be the case I think Southside and him just That's like who they really are Like they were just having a great time

They thought that shit was funny as fuck A lot of dudes like that Like rappers and shit When you get them off camera They have very extreme Sense of humor And they really like shit that it would occur to a lot of people

that seeming like kind of cruel or fucked up. That's one thing I could say about a lot of rappers. And I kind of felt like they were just having a great time torturing this motherfucker. Just from the hood, it's fucked up in general. It's people that go around fucking just

attacking cats for no reason, beating up crack heads, pointing out, knock them out. Like, the norm, it's like what's not normal is normal until you get, and you see it's not There's a lot of pushing of the limits. Yeah, like, I have to learn

because I grew up in the hood all my life, but my eighth grade year, I got, like, a scholarship to a boarding school, and I went, but I ain't going to lie, that... That's a long story. That's cool, and fuck people heads up. It's groups of people on Facebook that'd be, like,

talking each other about what they went through that. Really? It was that strict? Yeah, but I ain't going to lie, like... it was some good things about it. Like, if I was to stay there and graduate there, they would have paid for whatever school I wanted to go to. They got a great alumni. It's called Moosehart.

They had us a mansions. Every house in there was a mansion. We got 10, 15 bedrooms. There's girls and boys, not in a house, but on the campus. But, long story, short, I went out there, and I was seen a different life. Like, this is not a school anybody could get to or going to. So it's like, I'm one of the few people that's from Chicago that's here.

That's black. The other black people, overseas I used to do not weird it kind of weird shit like they used to find like the tallest strongest Africans they could find put them in the basketball team from overseas like there's people from the UK that's people from Africa that so it's all different races so being from Chicago being black my freshman year I'm there and I'm like a senior that type shit but when I went back to the hood because I couldn't state I ain't like it but when I went back to the hood I noticed how mean we was like it was like a culture shock it was like I got

I got like I let my guard out I got sulfur not soft for real but like it was just a different vibe and I got back and I'm like damn why the fuck everybody's so mean and and because shit's kind of cutthroat because it's like scarce resources you know like people don't really have that much money or like they don't really got that much going on so they just sort of like take it out on each other slash like are just kind of jealous and you know like there's a lot of bad tendencies that come out when you are basically like fucking impoverished like a lot of people in the hood, you know? Yeah, it's like...

You don't have shit, and you're talking about other people that don't got shit. Like, when I was in a hood going to school, I'm fucking scared about our shoes, what we had on. They want to be the freshest, but we're in a low-income apartment complex is why our momas ain't paying no rent. And everybody breaking the careers and all,

but they're the freshest. I want to talk shit about the person that's not. And then I go somewhere else, and they got it. And they ain't nothing like that. Like, why the fuck I'm dressed better than you? It doesn't make sense. Yeah.

You was, I seen you say somewhere that you was actually there in, like, ZachTV Dot. Yeah. It was at, uh, I think the club was, like, refuge. I got invited by, uh, Swad De Niro Jojo, brother. Because that was, that was the first person on the drill scene. Like, Tay is the first person I interviewed, but Swad was the first person I linked up with and worked with, like, doing, like, vlogs, shit like that. And he was bringing me around, showing me shit while I'm filming or whatever.

This is one of the events that he had me come to when I filmed. Zach, TV happened to be there. I ain't see what happened, nothing like that. But I might get like the last footage of him alive. I don't know. Because I was recording in a club recording everybody. And he was one of the people that was on a camera. So that was a crazy moment.

Because at that point, I wasn't doing interviews. I wasn't even thinking about doing them. So, like, when I be thinking about how all the shit played out and I'm doing it now, it'd be like, damn, it's crazy. Like, I was hit it. Was that your first time you even, the first day you seen them in person? No. I was at one of the Tate's 100 interviews out west.

It was, like, in a garage somewhere. But that was the first time. So you were you pulling out with Tate to interviews and shit? Yeah, I was friends with Tate way before I ever did an interview. So were you even me to say it to be friends with him? We did a song together, some shit like that, a long time ago. And I don't remember exactly what made us, like, keep fucking with each other. But I think we were just on the same type of shit around that time.

You know, so it's like we was kicking with each other. You're talking about take upon at this point, right? Yeah. Okay. Just want to make that clear for people. So you said you did a song, would say, so before you even was doing the camera shit, you was rapping. Yeah. The reason I stopped rapping was because all the cases I was catching, the rap wasn't helping.

Like, I'm watching people like Tay who get millions of views, and they got all the guns in the world in their videos and nothing happening. And with me, they're bringing this shit up in court, and I'm not getting no real views for real. And I asked my lawyer why was that happening, and that was like, because I was fighting an armed robbery. I'm facing 21 to 45 years. And he told me basically, like, there's no evidence that you did this.

They don't have nothing against you. So they're going to put pressure on you in any way possible. You have no room to breathe. So I stopped that shit. Even when I was like first blowing up and I was getting millions of views everybody watching me, I was fighting cases and on probation and shit. I'm not even supposed to lead a state. And I'm going to my probation people and they're telling me I need to get a job down.

I don't know like I'm making good money right now. But I'm scared to tell them because I'm seeing, well, I wasn't fighting a robbery no more. But I'm seeing how that was. So it's like I was scared to tell them anything until I got off. but I forgot what I was bringing that shit up about what we was talking about we was talking about you rapping oh yeah yeah that's yeah that's why I stopped this shit though because of all that shit and then my plan was to start back but by the time I was done with all the cases and shit I was knee deep and this shit I'm

doing and one thing I knew was I to do this rapping I was spending money to do this I'm making money all I do is buy my equipment like the initial perk purchases and shit. Everything else was profit because I was doing everything on my own. I didn't have to pay no team or editor's nothing. So it's all profit. So I didn't like doing interviews where I grew to love it because it was changing my life. It made me not have to think about how I'm going to pay bills and how I'm going to do things. Like I didn't have to, I ain't really did nothing illegal since I picked up a camera for real and started making money. Like, because I never did illegal shit just because I was being greedy or I'm a fucked up

person it's just like I try everything legal illegal illegal I'm mixing it so that's why I start rapping all the cases and shit and then at a certain point it's like I don't care for no more that wasn't like a goal a dream I never thought I was from to make it you did the on the radar I didn't yeah even that that's an eight-year-old song oh people don't be knowing that shit like I didn't have no tendons of doing that supreme uh McGriff yeah his son Jr right yeah yeah but he told me slide there he didn't didn't tell me I was supposed to be rapping. I was coming there just a slide, support network, whatever.

And Gabe, he told Gabe like, 16 rap, I told him like, I ain't, oh, I'm not, bro, don't listen. He's like, no, he do, check it out, this and that. He's like, yeah, come on here, you could do it. I still told him no. But then, once I sing somebody I perform, and I sing like, all right, they could do multiple takes and shit and cut it up.

I'm like, oh, well, I probably could do that. Because you got, imagine if you ain't really rap in years, whatever songs you got, you're not going to know that shit real so that's why I want to do it he told him I could do multiple takes and then they did one take and was like no that's fire keep it and I'm like I ain't like that shit for real you feel like it's a party that wants to take it more serious and just actually really rap again or are you is just fucking around no like I anything I

drop is oh shit or feature somebody paid for but I know I could do it shit I dropped the video and it did like 97,000 views quick of me rapping it was old So I know I could do it, but that ain't what I want to do. Like, I like what I'm doing now. It's way easy to me. You should do, like, a DJ-Callel version of getting everybody together in Chicago and do, like, an album or something. Why don't know why I did that yet?

I think they had, like, mixed taste, like, who used to do that shit? I don't remember their names. Because I think they had, like, a welcome to Chicago mix tag. Because I remember I took somebody logo. I didn't know there's a logo. I had it in my merch. And they DM me like, this is my brand. And it says something like, welcome to Chicago.

I think that was like a DJ or something like that. Would you be open to doing something like that, though? Yeah, I just ain't, well, I ain't educated on the music business. So I really, you know, I don't know how to go about that shit. What's the purpose? Is it going to make money? Like, what? I don't know shit about that.

But yeah, if it makes sense, I would definitely do it. I seen a clip, An Grizzie, he was, like, going off on you. Yeah, he's chasing. I don't know, huh? Like at all. like I seen him going off on people he was going off on a lot of people from Chicago just and that

and when I had joined the live because he was sending me a lot they were like yeah going here he talking about Chicago and I joined the lie and I was I was trying to argue I'm like shit I don't know you I'm trying

I'm just trying to chop it up whatever he just went off so he's just chasing the shit like it ain't It ain't none serious What about you and Mimo The first time I ever did any type of content I don't even know if you remember this, but my first stream or anything ever was on,

I hopped on one of your streams probably like a year or two ago, and it was when you was addressing the Mimo C's a hundred situation. It's a live, like, if the fans probably go to your page and go look through your lives, you had a stream where what was the,

what was the scenario with you and Mimo in the first place? That was kind of weird because he got on there, he came through my comments, and I think he joined the Discord or something or some type of live. And the energy was cool at first

and then just went left. And I was confused. Like, they just trolled me or something. I didn't get it. But, like, lately, I've been fucking, like, with Memo energy. I don't know what's been going on. What got into him. I've been watching his interviews.

It seemed like he'd getting his head on the shoulders or something now. Like, I've been fucking with him. I've been fucking with him. I fought with him with that. Nobody's property. My shit, I still till till today. I want that shit. I ain't going to hold you.

I ain't go lie. When we had gotten to, I kind of slowed down his music, but I went back and heard something shit. That n'n't go crazy on the music. Like, I followed him. Who would you put on, Since we're talking about music, who's on in Chicago, Mount Rushmore? Mount Rushmore.

Do a drill Rushmore, so you don't got to put fucking Kanye and shit. All right. Of course, you're going to do Sosa, dirt, hurt. I'd be wanting to put Pappy that, too.

I ain't going to lie. I feel like Pappy ain't make it to like the level that a lot of people did, but I feel like he would have if he was around. Oh, yeah, Papu's going crazy. What's that? Where's Duffie? duck and all this.

See, it's hard because I'd be wanting to put duck and vine like together with that shit but how many y'all name Rushmore like five? Four or five

but yeah so you got Papi you got Sosa you got dirt Papi Sosa you got her too right Herb you put herb above Vaugh

Hmm Herbs had some I think that'd be personal preference because like I fuck with her music heavy So Vaughn is like biggie

where he got killed after putting out one album. So we got like one album and then one posthumous album. So it's like Biggie's such a legend, but it's off of like a pretty small body of work versus somebody like Herbo's got like 10 fucking albums and mixtapes, all this shit, you know? I think people fuck with Vaughn for more reasons

the music though. Like the music was great, but it's like, it's even better when you feel something authentic. You feel it's real. Like you feel like you could believe what they're saying. So I think, I think we got to remove Pappy and put Vosan on there

We got to remove Pappy and put Vosan on there Right if you ask about music I'll pick Pappy Over Von But if you say the whole package I don't I have to probably say Vane But I don't know

Because Pappy gave that same energy I just No he did he was going to see These documentaries and all that Crazy shit Do you feel like Trappler Ross was overwhooping I bet you talked about this

A bunch in the past But like Do you feel like He's done anything wrong Or is it all fair game I like his content. I only will say it was wrong if he lies something. Like, if he blatantly lied, then it would be wrong.

But, like, I don't understand what people would be like, he from the UK shouldn't be covering this? It's like, if he's doing it, he's doing it better than you. Why can't he do it? I don't know about it doing six-hour documentaries on this shit. And if his shit wasn't good, it wouldn't do views and we wouldn't be talking about it, you know? I understand the people who lies are talking about, though,

because how you can affect people with. Because some things you put, it might just be speculation. And people watch this shit and believe it, and it might start some shit in the streets. To be fair, like Trepo Ross is kind of always sticking caveats into his videos about, like, I'm not saying that he did kill this person, but here's a really incriminating tweet, and here's a video of him saying that he was going to do something to this person. And here's a rap lyric where he said that he did do this six months after he did it and shit. He'd be trolling, though. People don't understand, like, in Chicago, you might, you might know something happened. you might know who did it or you might know just what happened before most people. So you go say that, just to troll throw people off, make them mad, do whatever.

Right. Somebody on the internet from another country sitting there, they think, oh, he did it. Because how else does he know? Not knowing, like, one of your homies might have did it or one of your homies' homies' mrs. might have did it or you might have just heard through the streets before, you know. So it's like, that don't mean they did it because they tweeted about this shit. Agreed. Give us some names of somebody that you feel like we should be paying attention to or who we should have on on jumper next.

For Chicago. Y'all have interviewed as Z Batman? He entertained. You up on him? Yeah, I seen him. I think you did something with him. Yeah. But I'm trying to think, I just name who I'd be listening to right now.

I'll be listening to Globoy, Bobo. I ain't familiar. Where he's from? Like, I think 50-night or something. I might be wrong. I don't know. I want to interview Buki now, all right. Oh, yeah, shout out Buki. I'm fucking Buki. You see that girl trolling G. Herbo and saying that she was from, what was it, 47th?

Oh, yeah, yeah. You see that clip? Yeah. I think she said like 70. Seventy-fourth, you're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You think Buky and DJU really got a fight? Talking to them, they said that shit was real.

I don't know why DJU was, like, laughing and giggly and smiling about it. But I didn't talk to them too many. times and they didn't say it the same thing like nah that shit was real they said i don't want to say it but because i'm trying to remember they said it online about the uh the gun shit i don't know yeah never mind but yeah i don't know but that's real would you box dj you no we push in peace i'm gonna go i fuck it i fuck with j you you have a boxing match that's just i'm gonna go i'm gonna do an interview with him okay i got to see you to believe you don't believe me You don't think he would have you?

He won't. He won me. He does. I don't know. So you're going to do it on his platform? Yeah. I'm going to show up to wherever he at. And we're going to do an interview.

The whole reason he got mad at me in the first place, so he said I was doing so much, God saw you're going to do it on a jumper. I was just trolling anyway. Yeah, I should do an interview too. But y'all? Oh, me and him? He was cool when he was on here.

I haven't done any interviews yet. I'm holding out. I mean, he said he regretted doing no jumper. He'd be used to people, though. There's a lot of shit I don't even put out there because on with the narrative that I be hating. I had interviewed people who then went in on him. And the reason I didn't drop it was because me and him not seeing eye to eye

and they're going in on you and it's going to look like it's coming from me. And they didn't all said the same shit like he didn't use them. Like it's people who didn't pay for interviews and began it, paid for his food, this and that. And once he started getting traction, he left him and just said, fuck him. And now they come hitting me up telling me like, yeah, he used me this and that and just said, fuck me. It's all type of shit I fall with DJ you like yeah the shit he's saying about niggins

run off of his swag that's all cat like nigga I ain't get that shit from you but he I will say he's a good business man I'm gonna make some money with bro for sure so that ain't you know what I'm saying I ain't all negative I mean I've watched some of his content and probably got ideas for people that want to interview

from his shit but I can say that about literally everybody say you regret doing a no-jerk I don't think you feel that way I think this is how you get another interview you talk shit because with me you did this all his troll shit and hit me behind the scenes and said let's work it's like you started narrative you create some shit and now it's like behind the same trenches news did an interview up here too

and he was telling everybody from chicago he regret doing the interview yeah i didn't really understand what his reason it was yeah and the interview did good as hell like that shit's just like i think his i don't think he ever did like half a million views on the interview so i don't know why he tripping on him but i maybe he didn't like the fact that i was grilling him about being corroborator one well he would he would confuse me and he was uh and he was uh He was acting like we didn't know enough about Chicago. It's like, okay, we get it. You're from there.

We're not from there. We're trying to, like, figure it out through watching YouTube videos. Like, that's kind of the deal, right? We're not from your city, so we don't know every last fucking detail. I'm confused why we ain't ever did an interview because, like, I ain't going to lie. He's somebody, anytime somebody play with me here, support. Like, he'll get on their ass. And I used to fuck with that shit.

But, like, he ain't ever work with me. It'd be weird. Like, he'd be telling me, like, yeah, when I do your interview is going to be different. and I'm gonna take the mask I'm gonna show my face you know his love what else this and that he don't interview

everybody ain't know where I hit him up you know never let me know in Chicago shit I'll be like why you show so much like I ain't mad about it though because you show love

I'd be confused why he's so much love but then he don't he'll never sit down it was Papi or GD because you ain't ain't any no GD's on your Mount Rushmore I did I said duck

no you didn't I did so ducks on there I said Vonnard Oh you put a Vonn and duck on there together Yeah it ain't You feel like the BD's The BD's like

they at one point that thought you was like choosing sides? Maybe early, early. I doubt it though, but... Doubted it now, but early wasn't any problem? I ain't get that vibe from the streets. I got that vibe from the fans. Yeah.

But they always said it. They'd be like, oh, yeah, you're a GD cameraman. Are you the BD cameraman? They don't be knowing. But I ain't go along. Part of the fault was... He my boy, but status update, Kyle, who he always recorded them.

Like, he only recorded the GDs, so he just assumed I'm the BD cameraman. It's like, bro, no. I fuck with everybody. Kyle is it literally a GD cameraman? He's really a GD Cameron. Shout to Kyle. That is Outday exclusive.

That man, freaking, I ain't gonna lie. He doesn't need to be on here. I told him. We're gonna bring him up, but he's on some damn there. He'd get wild. Uncle Luke. He's doing. The Chicago Uncle Luke, man.

What's he do? Everything. That man will book a stripper, some of the most ratchettish holes, they got, look like they got bed bug bites. You will fuck with his gun. And with, he puts, eat their ass on camera. Wow. And just get wild and they be bogus ratchet holes.

Sometimes they be bad. Remember the clip of sexy red and duck. Yeah. That's his. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's the side of that exclusive. Right, yeah. Yeah, never mind.

Do you, um... Well, do you think that Blazendahl is out of her mind for dating an alleged author? CHF Moot. Not out of her mind, but I feel like they do that in the hood all the time. It might just not be big rappers or they, like, she like one of the faces from her neighborhood. She, you know, she's famous type of shit. So it's like, that's probably why it's such a big thing. But people will be fucking out bitches all the time.

I guess they just... It's just dangerous. They look at her like a fucking leader for their hood, right? She's out here waving the flag and putting on for where she's from. So I can understand how, like, an older guy who's really put in work and really has blood, sweat and tears in this gang shit sees that. And he's like, oh, you're just out here acting like, it's all good with these guys. I mean, I'm not surprised.

though I don't think nobody got no leaders and no gang shit though I think like I hate the way this should be painted like I'm gonna get my my neighborhood for example I've been that since kindergarten so these are legit the people that I grow with legit my friends it's it like when I go outside when we go to the park they're here it's a big apartment complex it's a lot of us and maybe some people game bang maybe some people do whatever but game bang and I even took that says Chicago no more it's it's more Also like these are our friends and you will be considered a gang and get brought down in some type of crazy-ass-Riko because you would, the people you knew all your life. It's like they paint it.

It's like it's gang shit. It's really just like a group of friends. Somebody if you try to fight your friend, you're going to help you defend them. It just happens that the people that try to hurt your friends have guns. So like you need guns. Yeah. It ain't like no gang shit. It's more so like personal.

Speaking of guns, you went on laws and you got mad at me because you thought I told somebody that you didn't want to come because we originally were supposed to do this interview like a month ago type shit. It was something like that. And it was a situation where, you know, FYBJMM made it hot with the security. So now we, nobody could come in no jumper with guns or anything no more. Yeah, somebody else got in here with a gun. If they did, we didn't know about it.

You see what I'm saying? But like, why you was mad at me, you thought, oh, what? went and told, say that she was. Yeah, I just, I just saying someone on the internet about me bringing a gun and no jumper. And I'm like, why would they say I brought a gun and no jumper? I ain't never said nothing about bringing no gun or no jumper. I don't think we said that. Somebody said, I kind of like talked around it.

I ain't like that, though, because it's like, if I did bring gun, no jumper and I ain't allowed to have a gun, that might have been not a good thing to say. But I didn't, you didn't see me say it. You just assumed I said it to. Because you ain't hear me say that, though I assumed you said it because shit, I didn't talk to Adam about this and I talked to you.

I was only communicating with you. All right, but we got a warehouse full of people. I ain't seen nobody. All I know is I talked to you and then they said I had a gun. But I'm saying, where did you hear somebody said at that though? I can't even remember.

Oh, Flacco said it, right? Flacco was on the news. Oh, yeah. He made it try to look like I had a gun come up here looking for him. Yeah, yeah. All right, so with that is more so like We got a huge team of people.

And if you got problems with the security getting in, it's not just like a remote thing. Like, everybody in the building is going to kind of know, like, all right, 16, had problems with getting in with the security. So it wasn't like, I just threw you on it. You know what I'm saying? But I ain't say it on the internet. I think Flacco asked to you.

But even when I said something, I wasn't on the fuck remote. No, for sure. I just. And I was going on the rent. I was everything I had to say because it was all type of shit. They was trying to say. You said something like AD or AD hit you too, isn't it? Yeah, because.

I don't remember the exact word, so I don't want to say the wrong thing and then call us some bullshit. But it was something with me at Wack 100 on a clubhouse. And they was trying to say he spit on me. And it's like, yeah, we watched the video. Y'all even he spit on YouTube. He didn't fucking spit on me, gang. And then he's like, well, 80 said this, and he said that. And I'm like, well, everybody said that.

It's a liar. He motioned like he was going to spit, but I didn't see anything resembling spit, leave his mouth. He didn't fucking spit on me. If he spit on me, all that respect shit was going to be out the window. I mean, I would like to do a play-by-play, but I don't really remember anything significant. It was funny how he instantaneously did the spit motion back, though. Yeah, that was the legendary moment.

Shout out to the cameraman. Shout out of flacco. He said he wanted to catch a fade all that shit. I believe he wanted to catch a fade. I ain't going to lie to him. He did say that. He stood on business with some people here. I believe because I'm type of nigg.

Ain't nobody fin to spit on me. I believe Flacco is more professional. So he probably was really mad, but also, like, at the time, is a new job for him too. So maybe, because, you know, Flaco. Okay, you remember when Lush? I don't think he'd give a fuck about it

been a new job because if he, he was going crazy on here before that. It's like, he didn't think about getting fights just for all the crazy so he's doing. Flacco stood up on the news and told Lush to meet him outside in the parking lot to fight. But that's the difference between fighting somebody immediately in the office

versus like. No, but that was like the next day. Like he had had time to think about it. And he was like, no, fuck this. I'm standing on my man. hood, you know? He ain't want to fight for real, though. If he did, he will fight.

I just seen him at the party, bro. I spit on him, and I didn't just leave right away. I apologize to everybody in the room. I went to the couch. I grabbed my weed, walked back and forth, walked past him. You didn't want to fight. Like, you can't tell me you want to fight.

It's months later now, so I'm pretty sure he's not, like, just wanting to fight, but. I don't think much way to change. I mean, regardless, he should have, like, yeah, you can't spin on me. We would have the fight right in there. I don't give a fuck about the job at that point. So, I don't know.

but personally yeah I feel like you should have definitely took you outside or something like ain't no way but I don't know if you spit on me ain't no going outside whatever you spit on me yet as well as going down for it's I'm gonna wipe this shit out how the patience to be like yeah let's go outside

like that's a friendly fade this ain't friendly yeah but you think AD would have let them fight in that moment because I felt like he was like he was like catch the phase like you want to go outside this and that car but then he came to me and said some shit like uh I ain't gonna lie like I think you should move around. You're saying like a real nigger.

They're going to put the police on you, this and that. And I left. And I ain't ever say shit after that. And then I just seen that shit. Everyone on the internet, I'm like, I guess I'm going to say something. I even asked him after that. So I'm like, you're going to press charges. I don't remember what his answer was.

That's classic, though. Shout out my boy Flacco. Shout out my boy, 16. And shout out to my boy Flacco. Hopefully maybe. Shout out BN, Kenville. Shout out. Hey, you're sweet.

Hold on. What? Because I already know they're going to be on this bitch It's going Hey it's never a time Where we could talk about that guy It's never a time where we could talk about this shit And I know there's going to be a response from the niggas

You sat out him on his podcast Don't do that on my shit You ain't fucking out of hell no Man I feel like one day hopefully in the future Y'all could come together and like Since we pushing peace You and Kevah can't push peace It ain't no beef with us

Yeah I just don't fuck with him He did leave a comment on my Instagram post saying that he would he should came to the party. See, pushing piece. Push in peace. Yeah.

Did we invite them? I would have invited them, and I would have not thought about the fact that I also invited 16. These are the perils of what I was doing. There's like, people are going to be like, and that's just the Chicago side of it. I know, and people are going to be like,

oh, Adams fucked up for inviting 16 and Flacco. It's like, bro, I got a lot going on. I honestly didn't think of it. It's been so long that I fucking kind of figured this shit was cool at some point. And at least it was cool. Thank God. It's a lot of people on a list.

So I do. got to probably keep in mind like I'm just thinking about me it ain't it just me as all type of other shit so how can you keep track of everything? Well I appreciate everyone for not doing anything because God my girl would have never fucking forgiven me if there was like a fight that

shut the whole thing down because there was a fight it didn't shut the whole thing down thank God but I heard a bunch of people cleared out early as a result yeah as I was leaving I sent security running out the door it's kind of funny because like nobody in the porn community would ever fight

but some of the No Jumper guys Not so sure All right I appreciate your 16 What you want them to keep an eye out for That's Cipher I do like this idea

I think I'm a name It makes a Chicago rap again But I ain't really sure I feel like that's what the name gonna be But I'm gonna do the Cipher A podcast too I'm definitely working on the podcast

I'm just trying to find like What host I want on that The route I want to take because I don't want it to be just the same thing I'm doing. You flock on Kevoh. Come on. You know who I've been telling you to do a podcast with for years? You know what I'm going to say.

True tell her. No, hell no. I ain't never told you that. I fought with you told you. I fought with True Teller, though. But you know I always told you, like, every time we talk, I always say, I think you and the niggins should do some shit. You don't remember?

Tay. Yeah, hell yeah. I ain't worried with Tay and two years. I don't know what's going on with Tay. Man, Tay was supposed to come up here. I didn't get missed his flight. cool, but I ain't worked with Tantua is. He makes it seem like, it's my fault who ain't work.

I'd be reaching out. You know, whenever you were ready, I'm ready, come on. We should get Trudeau around here. We should get Trutella and Ex-Manrico on there. X-Man Rico, I don't dislike him, but I feel like he don't be accurate with a lot of shit. Because I remember he said he worked at a job with me. I never remember him. But what he said, I know he had to work there because I was,

Like in the forest preserve some shit. I don't remember what it was. But all I remember was it wasn't for me. I ain't relate to them. There isn't that bitch talking about different types of butterflies. I'm like, my knowledge. Listen, I don't care about this. I'm on the back of the pickup truck sleep.

And he went on that shit and said I was off drugs, probably peels. I don't even fucking do drugs. I smoke weed. That's it. I ain't never people saying. But he's looking at butterflies while you're sleeping in the back of the truck. So he's thinking like, man, this guy don't care about nature. He's a fucking dude.

I got fired within like a few days because I came late. the first few days. Really? And then it's so crazy because there's one time they call me to the office downtown and I'm rushing and I get a ticket

and now I'm late. I'll rush and got a ticket to pull up and get fired. I was mad to tell you. I could have called me. Oh, that's a brutal series of events. Yeah. Fuck.

Wait, how far is the forest from wherever you were living at? This was in Chicago or this is when you live somewhere else? Yeah, it's multiple like forest preserves all through some of the suburbs. I didn't know that. We were just going to different sites

and like cutting down trees burning grass, not grass, but like invasive species, plant shit like that. All type of shit. Pesticides and sexes. That's sick. That's a cool double life. Yeah, I ain't like that shit.

I did all type of shit. That school I was talking about, I was working on a farm and shit. Like, that school was self-sufficient. It was like hundreds of acres. It was a child sitting in school. So they had babies there, like, from birth. Like, it's people, you either get a scholarship there they take you in because you're from a damaged background, shit like that.

And they, it was so boring and so strict. They watched us, like they timed us. They knew how long it took to walk from here to here, had the ax to go to my barrel or ask to go to the bathroom, I'd go in the refrigerator. They control my money. They had us working on a farm, a real job, but they paid us way under a minimum wage, like $2 an hour.

Your maximum is $4 an hour. You started like two type shit. You go up a quarter. It's a school of jail, nigga. I ain't go out with me going to jail afterwards it was like jail it was just a beautiful jail That's that shit sound like. And the reason they said

They was able to do that is because They got custody in us in the way And it's an allowance but we Cutting down trees we're taking big ass blocks And putting them on dump trucks We're riding back I'm fucking herding sheeps And shit it was so boring to the point I just let out all the items

And let them run around now we got freedom That's question I got because I got a sling leave and go somewhere You said that you was in jail right You were you in Cook County? Yeah. So we're going to see any lead Cook County videos of you coming out? Yeah, nah. You ain't getting no fights in none in there?

Nah. I got into situations where, like, we got into it. We might fall in the bathroom, but, like, something crazy, no. It was really the person I was locked up with. He was doing a lot of goofy shit. He caused a lot of shit. Like, the person that I caught the case with. You're Cody?

Yeah, he was chasing. He was lying to people telling them we was in there for AI 15, selling guns, that type of shit. And people coming up to. to me, it was just goofy shit. Like, he was a folk on the hustler. I mean, came in that folk on the hustler. Got on count as a GDs, all type of weird shit.

And he used to be doing weird shit, like taking shit from under my bump, hiding and now getting into two of people around me. And then I found out as him. So he didn't want to cause a lot of commotion. Tight shit. Hmm, more lore. All right, 16 shot him. Appreciate you.

Excellent interview. What was that? Two hours? Yeah. Cool. Bro, what time is? It's always nice for you can hit two. All right, shout out to my man, Remo.

I got that shirt, but it's white. Yeah, shout my boy, Ronnie Sonami. Oh, yeah. I didn't actually know. People kept asking me where it was from. I was like, I'm not in the shirt. Okay. I forgot that, what's the killer?

What's that shirt? What's the shirt? What's the shirt? Something with the rats. And then no jumpers? Oh, no rats one? No jumper.com. I'm gonna interview with snitching or whatever.

Oh, let's go. What snitch? I don't know yet. Let me know. Let me know. I go to Melrose. Go cop the shirt. 766,

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