No Jumper - 16ShotEm on Spitting on Flakko, Bandman Kevo Beef & More

Episode Date: August 5, 2022

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The Sharp Tank. No jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. And today, I got somebody that I feel like everybody been wondering where he's been since then. We got 16 shot him in the building today, man. What's going on with my guy? Shit, man, cool. I like how you start this shit off and make this shit like suspenseful.

Hey, that's how I feel like it should be, man. So I want to dive off, man. I want to talk about you first because I'm sure there's people want to know the bullshit. We'll get to that later on through the segment. But right now, I want people to know who 16 shot of me is and where he comes from. See, I'm from the south side of Chicago. I probably started, like, dealing with the cameras like three years ago, three and a half years ago. Yeah.

But I used to rap. So the reason I even bought a camera was because, like, the cameraman in the city that's charging so much for videos. So I just bought my own to shoot my own shit, but I ended up never using it for, like, the whole two years. Right. I ended up catching a case

getting put on house arrest and was bored. Damn, the fuck you get put on house arrest? For what? I was really out on bond for armed. I ain't do this shit, though. But... Of course. Of course. Of course, we know. Most definitely, man. We got to always throw that one out on the board.

But as I was like out on bond, that's why I stopped rapping. There was a music video I was in. And there was a video. They seen me like a Glock or something. And they found that video and showed it in court. Then they violated my bond and locked me back up. So I had to bond back out, but they put me on house arrest with no movement. I told me I can't go to school, work, church, nothing.

I just go to court for a year straight once a month. How do they expect you to survive or to live? I don't think they care. Like, you get it? I ain't never even heard that, though. Like, most of my homies, they get movement and shit from like these hours to these hours. Like, I stayed in the house for a year straight.

So, like, I ain't really had nothing but time to learn the camera shit. Like, I'm just in the house. That's interesting. Yeah. And that led into getting booked for videos, and then I did an interview and just went viral. Yeah.

So I just kept doing this shit. Like, King of I was like my third interview. So I kind of had a crazy start out back. You feel like that was done? the one that kind of pushed tip the bucket yeah not like immediately play had to affect immediately on the city but it's like as he grew I seen that shit directly to me like every time he grew or had an accomplishment did something crazy I seen that shit directly on my channel subscriber wise views money so it's like how'd you

get how'd you get connected with him shit really just like wear the mouth like talking to people I'm asking people like, who you think I should work with. And it's crazy. One of his ops told me to work with him. Because it was like, that's like how his name was out there. It's like, even people that didn't like him, they're respecting him. So it's like, they're like, I ain't going to lie.

I don't fuck it, dude. But this would be a good one. So you're telling me that you and King Vaughn, rest in peace, you know, and you even being able to work with him. You're telling me you and him, y'all never really had no relationship or any type of thing like that. Like it was just, you heard of him. him he ordered you kind of type of ordeal. Yeah, like, when I first found that about Vine,

he was in jail, like, fighting a murder or something like that. Yeah. And they was asking me to interview him for the longest, like even before the, not for the long, because I wouldn't do an interview that much longer. But like, when they was asking me, I don't think he was really rapping or nothing. Because I remember, they used to ask me to interview

a lot of people, like a lot of street niggas that was just, like this dude named Melly, he from a hood named O-Five 1. He never did no song, never rap, but got a fan base of a rapper. And it's just like, I can't confirm shit, but it's like he basically known for being a killer. He passed away. So it's like you've got the cloud of a rapper from, you know, word of the mouth on the streets type shit. And these type people, they want to be an interview. But I don't know what I can ask him because it's like everything they want to know.

There's nothing like that he could promote it. Ain't music. You know, it's street shit. So Vaughn kind of was like that. And then once I seen he was rapping, I'm like, oh yeah, it makes sense. So you're telling me that he never really tried to make no transition, even having that type of pop, right? Like you said, like, he's not really known, this man's not known for rap,

or he's not known the man he was talking about, like he's not really known for rap, or he's not known for nothing like that, but he has a fan base and he does things like one. Yeah. You tell me, he never tried to really take, you never seen him try to take it to another level? Yeah, I never really met him.

I didn't, though, like, before he passed. like telling them like you know you could do something with this like it's people who love this type of attention you just got it like you ain't in it's like you ain't really doing shit with it like oh good looking uh basically telling like even if you don't know how to rap the fact that your reputation you got it'll do something like i see it all the time i see niggas who got killer reputations but can't rap and they come home and go up right wonder but like because i see that all the time man you know and it seems like with you you coming, because I got it, I want to know, man.

And I'm sure the viewers, they want to know. Chicago's not, it's not the safest place to where you say, okay, yeah, I'm going to raise, I want to raise a family. Like somebody's getting up and moving to Chicago. When do you hear that? Like, you know what I'm saying? Somebody. Like, somebody say like, man, I'm, oh, man, you talk to your neighbors.

You'd be like, man, where are you moving to? Like, you can be living out here. Oh, to Chicago. Yeah, everybody trying to go out. You know what I'm saying? Like, they've never been there or nothing. and you don't really hear that. Like, I got a note from you, like, what's it like?

Because you do, you shoot interviews. You are an interviewer. You interview for the people they don't know at home. Like, you, like, I've watched your visuals, man, and some of the things that you've captured in Chicago. What is it like being somebody who's behind the camera and being in Chicago to where niggas is around there shooting in the daytime? Like it's cap guns.

I mean, it ain't, I don't think is what people think, because it's like, that's what I'm accustomed to. Yeah. So, like, of course, like, seeing certain shit, you know, like, certain shit ain't right. You know it's crazy. But it don't be as crazy as people on the outside look at it. Like, you're down to get to lead a city and go to somewhere else and see how other people act and how they think. And you will start realizing, like, damn, I don't think like them. And you would look at them like they crazy.

Like, because you look at them, like, you got, like, a victim mentality. Like, the way you think you're going to get fucked up about. But reality, we just, our hair is fucked up. Because it's like, you should be able to go outside and go to the club and chill and be regular. You used to be able to do regular shit. But we'd be looking at the shit like, oh, that was loose? What was it like for you growing up

and you used to go to the clubs and shit like that? Were you having fun? Like, were you? I never really- Like, when you did stuff like that, like going to the clubs and shit like that in Chicago when you was coming up or like just going to parties. I ain't really like that type of shit.

Like, I was in the club probably when I was like, 16, 17, when I wasn't supposed to be. And it was fun of me. Because you could just pay to get in type of shit. Right. Or depending on where you could get in. So, like, then, it was fun to me. Like, been in a strip club, I remember I got finesse.

That's what I don't even tell me of those shit. Well, we got to talk about it, love one. You know what I'm saying? Take your time with your joint, man. And just, you know, let's reflect. I learned my lesson, though. Right. I'm in a strip club.

You know, I'm young. So, like, I used to, like, do a little shit. I decided to get money. So I had a little money like a couple thousand dollars. So I'm walking in the strip club with that shit on me. And this is my first time been to the club and seeing how the girls reacting. It's like when you throw bread on the ground

and the birds run up, that's how they are. So me being young and I know no better, I'm thinking they all fucking with me. I'm really feeling like that nigger and I'm wildies, you know. So I'm throwing money. You young, love one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then when that shit run out, like right before I ran,

I probably had a couple hundred left. A girl whispered in my ear, like, you're trying to come to my room? I'm, yeah. Ooh. She's out here. I charge $2.50 an hour. Yeah.

What the fuck? I just threw out of this thousands and I didn't get shit. Yeah, it was new to you. Yeah, it was new to you. I was kind of mad because I was with older people. Yeah. It's like, they let me do this stupid-ass shit. Yeah.

And like, when I went home and I was broke, I felt shitty. It was like, I just got finesse. Yeah. Did you ever, I got a answer? Did you ever allow that to happen? to you again. Hell no. It was like,

I was young. I didn't know no better. Now that shit don't really excite me for real. Like, I got a, I got a no, right? I got to know.

Because Chicago ain't, they ain't a place, man, but we call it Chirac. You know, I stayed out there a little bit so I know about it.

I watch some of the people that you be interviewing because I see you out there, man, you be on the block. Broad Daylight interviewing people. Not all the time. Okay, but just even them sometimes.

I've watched people like they watch and they surroundings. You just stand on the camera. But I'm watching even the people that you interviewing they're looking, their surroundings, they're watching certain shit. And I'm just watching you just keep the camera focus. That don't kind of like, you don't ever feel something.

Like, man, like, damn, but this shit is for real. So I don't be just standing at the camera. I'm not being a suburb of too. But like... It don't make you nervous. Like, I got to add, like, it don't make you nervous just a little bit. Not really nervous. It's just like being aware.

You know, to be aware is to be alive. So just be aware of what could happen and where you at. Yeah. And shit like that. But I really didn't. I didn't, I really had to me crazy situations shooting interviews. The music videos is where shit really was getting wild at. Right.

Like, that's why I kind of slowed down on the videos because I honestly made more doing the interviews. And I was risking my life way more doing music videos. Like, that shit really wasn't worth it to me. Yeah. I'm getting in shootouts for shit that don't got nothing to do with me. Damn. I'm on the y'all block and y'all ops come slide through and I'm out here.

Or I'm on y'all block and y'all hot and the police come slide through searching everybody. And then I go to jail, shit like that. So I ain't really like that. What made you make the transition? because Chicago native, born and raised, correct? Yeah. What made you make the transition to L.A.? And just to the West Coast, period.

Really, just to expand, like, growth. Because in my city, I ain't work with everybody, but it kind of feel like that. So sometimes I just be in there not knowing what to do next. Because I don't want to keep doubling back on the same people because it's certain people I know I do an interview with them. It's going to go up for sure. But I don't want to just keep doing the same.

We're trying to find new shit. So, like, out here, I felt like it was, like, starting over. Yeah. Like, not as many people know me out here like they do in Chicago. So it really was harder because it's, like, I go from being somewhere where, like, majority of people know me to most people don't know me here. So it's a little harder, but I did it because I knew it would pay off in the loan around, like, as far as growth. Like, it's a whole new audience, a whole new type of crowd. Are you nervous being around?

a different crowd versus you being back in Chicago and doing this? Not nervous, but I'd say I'm more comfortable in Chicago. It's like... Wow. Everybody here, I probably met within the last two, three years. So it's like, I don't know. It's kind of hard trusting people.

Like, I fuck with them, we cool, but my people, my people. It's like, I don't really know what it'll be going on out here. Like, this whole different, lifestyle. The gangs operate different, different gangs out here. Like, we don't got bloods and crips and shit like that. What do y'all got? Y'all got GEDs, GD's, BD's, Vice Lords, Stones, Latin Kings.

It's a lot of gangs, but I think the most known gangs as far as, like, social media-wise to the world, it'll be like the B-Ds and the G-Ds because the rappers. Yeah. What do you think made? because obviously when them gangs was created, like out in Chicago, like out towards Midwest and people was doing that,

who was in the music scene back then? I mean, what's made rappers today out that way pick that type of stuff up? You know what I'm saying? Like pick up even wanting to be a vice lord, being, you know what I'm saying, Abidia, GD, trying to be these things. Like, where do you think they've been influenced?

Back in the day, like, that shit, I don't know. But like, I'd say like the recent generation, Chief Keith, because like, yeah, it was beaties and shit in the same. But like when Chief Keith blew up, it seemed like everybody became beating. Everybody started having dreads. Like the suburbs even got worse. And they could start carrying guns and shooting niggas and shit. It been crazy, but I feel like people watch Chief Keith and seeing that.

And it was like, all right, this is the blueprint. That's the way they make it out. Because there's somebody that comes from an environment like us. and we see he made it up and this is probably the only example we got so when we see him in the video with the guns and you made it we like all right this is what you do

show the guns it's like niggas Ben had guns but I don't think they're showing them everybody's probably scared and that led to my my next question to it you know was because you I notice you interview a lot of drill rappers that's what you you know what I'm saying me and you were talking

you was like man yeah you know it's the it's the drill music that comes my way and I noticed With drill music, everybody shows the biggest guns they could show or the biggest pistol or whatever. Like, I don't understand what that part of it's for. Like, why are you showing them? If you are, okay, cool, I get it. You are, you riding, you riding. But I never understood why they're in every video.

That's really just a lifestyle. Like, if they wasn't shooting a video nine times out of ten, if you were to pull it up, all of them guns would still bend up. So it'll be like Sometimes be situations where They homies don't even know they shooting the video They call the cameraman Camer man pull up He ain't phoned and we shoot in the video

Getting the video They already got the guns Because it's like You can't be in two of people out here You being a cameraman How does that make you feel like knowing That you might be in Well I mean shit you're always

Probably 90% in them settings How does that make you feel when you know Like there's probably niggas man There's probably a hundred guns with me Right now You know what I'm saying? like around you're like you and they might not know you but you're there you're there to film because this is your job it's kind of dangerous what you do church a little bit right yeah but i get a lot of

love in the city like i never at least in person i never had nobody do nothing weird or like made me even feel uncomfortable like they go out they actually go out they wait and make me feel comfortable like um awesome yeah you good out here you know this and that we got this we got that like they not make me feel like the guns you're going to use them again you're you're going to against me and robbed me, they don't solicit protection. Even though like, I don't listen to none of that shit. Right, right. It don't really be that feeling.

Like, I had a few shoots where like I didn't know nothing about the person at all. And shit like that, that's when it started feeling weird. Because I don't know who you affiliated with. I don't know what's going on. I'm walking into a situation blind, basically. But for the most part, I don't do that. Yeah.

It seems like it's been what you do, like it's been very lucrative for you. You stand just even from where you even involved you had told me something about, I think, a man named Zach TV, am I correct? Yeah. And you saying, like, because I always wanted to know, I was like,

why are you doing? Like, what made you even pick the camera up? You told me you would have never even picked it up. That man wouldn't have passed away. So I just wanted to give him his respect and how that even, how that make you feel, how that even make you feel to even inherit that? I don't go like that shit feel good

Like When people compare me to them Sometimes it'd be weird Because I don't know if they're doing it in a good way or a bad way Because it's like When I first started like my third interview They was like, oh this the next Zach And that feel good knowing like

You was the top in the city doing this shit This is my third interview and they compare me to you But at the same time as haters That's saying that in a negative way Because he got killed And they all you the next Zach So it's like Like, it'd be kind of weird.

Like, when he first died, I think everybody stopped doing interviews. Everybody was, like, scared and confused. They, like, damn, they out here killing cameraman, like, what's going on? And then, where he got killed, that was even more crazy. So when I popped up and did the shit, it kind of was like a shock factor, I guess. It's like, the lane open, nobody doing it. So there's no competition.

And then everybody, like, you see what happened to the last dude. So it's kind of like, who the fuck is he was? Is he cool? What's wrong with him? Right. But I seen the reaction I guess as far as like the views. So I was like, fuck it. I'm going to keep doing it.

I ain't really know what it's going to grow on to, but I knew it's going to do something. Because it was views I'd never seen before. Because you already know how to edit and all this type of things, like how to even press the button on yourself and okay, this is how I'm going to clip it. Because it seems like you do a lot of your own work. You're all independent. Yeah. I mean, I got people that do that stuff for me now.

Yeah. I mean, you make a lot of, I've checked your resume and you make enough money now to where you can do that, church. You know that shit pay for itself, though. It does if you move it right. But, like, yeah, when I first started, I ain't know nothing about none of that shit because it's like none of my friends was a cameraman

or nothing like this, so I didn't have nobody to go talk to and go ask for advice. I was just on YouTube, find that shit out. Every time I got a question, I'm just typing on YouTube. I decide I do that. Just put that shit together. And the interviews really was easy. So you were telling me that you were self-taught.

You were self-taught and what you're doing today to even build your following. Yeah. Like, I really didn't, I ain't really know how to build a following. It's just, the shit just started happening. It's like, this shit really fell in my hands. And it's like, I would just feel like I'd be dumb to stop or not keep doing it. Like, yeah, I put it in the work I did at the interview, but, like, most people, they got to, put in way more work to get to that point.

Like my first interview did well. You feel like you have a personal obligation to this? This is like a self. It's like this is this for you? Like is it something that you feel like in you to where you have to, like I have to make this work. Like you feel like it's just on you. You can't, it's not going away.

Yeah, I didn't put too much in it already. So I just dedicated the last three and a half years of my life every day to this. Yeah. So, yeah. What's your family think about that, man? Like, your new, you going from? Because I've talked to you, and a lot of the money that you've made, loved one, legitimately has been nice.

You know, you make good money. You do some top-tier interviews. I watch you almost do, like, even some documentary style, almost. That's what I see about you. Like, you kind of do things like documentary style, and I feel like you're ahead of your time. I appreciate it. You know what I'm saying? I want to do more of them, too.

It's just, it takes a team. Yeah. It'd be kind of hard putting shit out like that. Yeah. What's one of the, I'm going to ask you, what's one of the hardest interviews you feel like you had to do by yourself that you was like, fuck, like, this one was kind of hard, but I'm going to make it happen. Honestly, a few.

I can't really remember the specific people, but I remember, like, the issues I had. Like, I pull up the camera dead. the memory card full and I can't delete the shit because I ain't put it on a hard drive yet it's just be a lot of situations not no more but like in the beginning a lot of situations like that

and I was making shit happen like if the mic was dead I'd probably put the voice note on the cell phone and record the audio like that but like as far as clients I say this come on bro what's one of the hardest ones you had to deal with

you just like probably like never again Again. It's my boy. Shout out of J.B. Bin Laden, but I did an interview with him. This nigga fell asleep in an interview a couple times. Like, I don't know. It was like four in the morning, though, so I'd give him that. But I think he was like, I'm leaning some old shit.

And I asked him a question. He fell asleep and paused. And then I'm like, what you were sleeping? You don't hit me? Like, no, I was just thinking. But it was a yes and no question, though. Yeah. So it was like, I know you going to think he was asleep.

I don't know. you know, I don't know why motherfuckers, for real, church, 16. I don't know why people think that it's so easy to create content. It's not easy. You know what I'm saying? Like, you got to know what you're doing. Like, people think it's just a walk in the park. You collect a check, you and you go.

But it's really not, man. You know, you got to really put the work in. Like, you got to really, you got to know how to make art. So for you sitting even behind the camera, bro, and doing what you do and even being able to stand up through the comments because there's comments that come in and not everybody going to agree with what you're doing

or not everybody's going to fuck with you because you fucking with the other side and you're filming them today or they don't really understand that this is a business for you. Yeah. You know? Do you feel like it's a business for you

or do you feel like it's just some shit you're doing with your homies? No, it's for sure a business. Yeah. Like, I feel like most people understand that but it'd be some people that be, he fucked with the ops so I don't want to work with him

but I just stayed away from them like just because I work with your ops that I mean we into it yeah you know Dirk You know who we Hey yeah dirt You hear him talking to your church

You just say hey man's business I can't say dirt though Because I never met him Like yeah It's like I don't want to form no opinion Or somebody that I never met Yeah

Like And from the people in this In this circle Like they say he don't got no issue With me so Yeah But like I used to

think like maybe he didn't like that because I listened to his music and shit and some of the things that saying his songs yeah it'd be like I don't like you that fuck what is I see I see you and dirt coming together though yeah hopefully that's just my personal opinion I see you and dirt coming together and I see y'all coming together for the city and for the culture even when I told you like I see that like y'all got to do you and dirk got to do one for the culture because everybody's fucked with you I've watched that I went to look at your resume I'm like damn okay everybody from that section has fucking with him. So to see you in a dirt collab would be epic.

I thought it was gonna come at a point in time because he had made an announcement basically like doing the interview in this city. Yeah. With like the most turk person that do it or whatever. Yeah. But I guess we was thinking he was talking about as far as I got our city. And if he was talking about our city, not on no cocky shit at all, but like if he was talking about our city, that would be me. But I guess he was just talking about in general, and he did it with Gilly and Wallow. Shout out to Wallow, matter of fact. Wallow and Gilly.

I just did some shit with Wallow. It was fun, man. It was a hell of an experience, man. Just, you know, just collabing. That's why I say when the collabs come together, y'all would be surprised what can come out of them. You know what I'm saying? So to see you 16 shot him with X, Dirk, collab, man, just in dropping something, man, I think it would be epic. and I think it'll be something real dope for your city.

You know what I'm saying? People go, dirt. If you're watching church, hey man, we didn't through your sign up in the sky church. Come on now. Your ass on down here. Hey, man, we got a few more minutes. So we got to dive into it, man. And I don't want to disturb you with none of this.

I don't even want to waste your time because you just did a fire-ass interview, homie. And I think you really let the people know who you are. here i think this is what you had deserved from the jump but we're going to give it a two and two real quick the situation with you poetic flaco um we all want to know man like how how were you feeling that day like what happened like man what what even what even struck that i mean we already know okay they say he was pressing but there had to be something else to that like man talk to us man like the people want to know

shit I already said like I feel like he got paid off by somebody damn like if he didn't I just can't logically understand like why else

you know why you had this energy why you're going so hard for this shit yeah to call you a clout chaser and not know you that was extreme and then you know when somebody uses the words of the terminology along the lines of, you know, suck something off.

A general, I kind of see. I just want to know what went through your mind when the words were exchanged, and then after that it was no more words. Honestly, like, I see a lot of people in the comments saying that about the cloud chasing shit. Like, shit like, that'd be small talk. That shit really is, like, fake annoying,

but it ain't really bothered me for real because it's like I came with a goal. Like, I came with a purpose. I really wanted people to see the type of niggas I'm dealing with and the shit they're doing. And like the shit that's going on, I didn't expect all this other shit to happen. So it was like, that's why I really was ignoring all that shit and stand calm. Because it's really, I got to go.

I ain't trying to come in here, getting two of motherfuckers and dend on there and get the, but honestly, I feel like he exposed himself type shit. Like, kept getting caught in lies. Yeah. Now, because I want to know and just to even hear from you, what was the actual problem you felt like he was trying to come at you with? Like, what was the issue, like, to where you felt like he just kept trying to press you about something? And it seemed like you brought all the receipts. Yeah, I don't know. Like, I don't know, dude.

Like, I only had a few words on him, like, because I seen he was on the stream. Yeah. somebody had called in, they're saying crazy shit. And I ain't really care that you talk to them and called them. It was just like how you started it off, like calling me, Cloud Chasing 16. So it's like it already felt like something weird going on. When you didn't already built your name. Yeah.

You already don't built your name and you stand on it for somebody to tell you that you felt disrespected already. But I saw you hold your own church and I really commend you for that. For real. Why would, okay, to even hop up off of him? Because, all right, we don't even need to touch that. We touched it enough. The problem with Band Man Kevo and him having, because obviously Flacco felt like he could stand behind certain things or certain allegations that were being talked about. What was going on with the Band Man Kevo situation?

Because when I talked to you, you had some valid points. And the way you played it down was kind of like it was some petty shit. It was really petty. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. Like, I know you wanna get the content shit, but I really don't want to talk about doing it. I'm tired of that shit. Yeah.

Like, the shit out there, like, if people really want to know, all this shit, it's the internet. Yeah. Just go watch this shit back. Right. But, like, what I would say is, like, this shit really over a girl.

Not on my end, though, but, like, that's what this shit open. so what so you're telling me like he did because i i heard some of the things that he's willing to do and i didn't just hear it it's not even something i heard from you but just from people i've heard the streets like you know when the nigger got when he got money he he gonna play you know what i'm saying he know and certain people know how to play and know how to troll the internet you know what i'm saying so when i kind of heard because i had overheard that it was over a female and i'm like that really don't make no sense was this a girl that you and know what you know

names just is this a girl that you might have moved from this certain somebody like did you take this girl did this somebody that you were already dealing with i ain't gonna say i took her right like honestly i didn't even have instagram because somebody got my page deleted right you got to talk about no yeah once my page was deleted i got i started getting emails from people and one of the emails was from her and i ain't really know if it was her for real or not something like this you I think I sent her like a little burner page, like damn this page from your page. She did.

Just to have one just so you can communicate for what it is because you saw the messy shit coming. So like as we talking, it wasn't really nothing like sexual or nothing like relationship-wise. It was really, she was just letting me know shit. She was putting me up on game, like what type of person I was dealing with and what a motherfucker was doing, willing to do.

And everything she really told me started So I seen like, all this shit real, but like us communicating more and more, you know, shit happened. And when it happened, I ain't say nothing about it. Like, I kept the shit quiet because it wasn't, no, no, no, just to piss you off or get back at them and no shit like that. Like, the issue we had, we had squashed it already. Right. It was dead.

It was like, I had no, I didn't want to be his friend or nothing after that, but we weren't enemies. It was like, you show me your character, you show me what you do when you get mad. So I really don't want to be friends with you. Like, it ain't no issue. So it's like when she came along, I really did with like most niggas of dudes. She's attractive woman. She cool. I fuck with her.

So it's like the shit happened. I ain't go a lot like. Talk your shit, love one. Bro, you just trying to explain it as calmly and coolly as you know. You can. Like, you know, it was a rendezvous. Yeah, so, like, that shit happened. And I never really said nothing about it.

Like, how motherfuckers knew is she posted a video about this shit. I was in the video. Like, I ain't gonna lie. Like, she asked me cushy. I told her I don't really care what you do, because I really don't get respect for him. But this ain't, I ain't trying to really piss him off. Like, I really don't be trying to get in the bullshit. especially over no girl, like the shit that's goofy to me.

Because I know how five shit could go, and I feel goofy sitting in jail or get hurt over something like that. With a girl. Especially, like, out of all the shit I'd already been through. You're smart. I did to even get to the point I'm at now, go to jail with some shit like that. Yeah, no, you're smart. Because, you know, I never really understood why niggas.

Because I feel like this, homie, and this is just my personal opinion. And I don't feel like you bashed him. nothing but y'all possibly could have worked together before this he said that y'all y'all could have worked

and I know it's probably just some shit that's just being said now because it's just where it's at the magnitude and somebody wants to feel bigger but y'all could have actually really work together on me he said that like once we did I little talk or whatever but like how do you feel about that

well now at the time I wasn't really against if I wasn't looking forward to it. Like, I ain't really care about that. Yeah. Like, I was, he doing his own thing. I'm doing my own thing. Like, when you say we could work together,

like, what could we do, an interview with each other or something? Fuck. I see, like, what? What could we really do? Hey, bro, I mean, I just think that y'all could possibly, you know, I mean, now I can't tell you how to feel, of one, because you know what?

If I was in that position and something like, that may have occurred with me, especially if it comes down to some little bum-ass bitch. And I ain't even trying to knock her, but like, damn, bitch, you already know what, you're messy, and you know what you did. And you probably don't fucked up a good relationship, but that's neither here nor there, real niggas gonna stand like they're supposed to stand. I ain't gonna lie, I can't let you go on her like that, because that ain't the case for real.

Like, it might look- to me about it. It might look like- Let's open it up. It might look like that. But like, I don't know, everybody's not gonna agree, but like, with me knowing everything that happened, I kind of understand why. she's doing what she's doing.

It's like there's only so much you're going to accept, take from a motherfucker before you turn against them. But let me give you some game though, too, Church. Don't ever, don't ever be a part of that. You don't want to be a part of that. That's already messy. She's already in her emotions about whatever the fuck her and that man got going on, whatever they didn't did.

Because like I don't already said, man, the bitch going to be the bitch. So you got to understand that too. That's all I'm telling you. Like, you weren't really there when she. She was ever talking to him about whatever. She's just coming back. And I'm not even trying to knock baby, but I already know when somebody see they can play the two on the two, they're going to do that. Yeah, that's all I'm saying.

That's all I really, all this shit to me is goofy. Like, I understand all this shit. Other people can't let the shit go. Like, I ain't going to lie. It was a point of time. Like, I was on bullshit. That's because my fault's playing with me. Everything I did was a reaction to something.

Yeah. And I always gave a warning. But I guess when I get warnings, people, I don't know if they, like, call them my bluff or they think I'm trying to be tough and threaten them. But it's really like I'm not on this, bro, chill. Because it's just going to keep going farther and father. And it's like I know way too much. Like, I know way too much.

It's still shit I know that I ain't said or put out there. Right. Like, I always give a warning. My motherfucker do something. And then I react. And then I feel like me crazy. Like, damn, you did all this. But I told you leave me alone.

Right. I gotta ask you this before we get about a year, because I ain't gonna trouble you with too much of it. You said what you said, and I like that, and I like how you stand on it. I'm gonna ask you, Bain, in the next five, 10 years, where can we see 16 shot them, and where can we see the company going?

Shit, the goal is just to how, like, build a way bigger team type of shit in different states so I could be a little, like, more like worldwide with it. Yeah. Like, I see how Vlad do his interviews. Because, you know, he don't really gotta be that. You could just do that shit virtually. Yeah, Adam ain't been in this motherfucker neither later.

Man, man, where the fuck you bid at, church? Bring your ass back off vacation. We need you. I fuck with that though, because that means you'll be in whatever state you want without actually have to go through all the traveling, get on the plane, all that shit. So it's like, my goal is to just have a big media company,

you know, have people all around. Just take it to another level, put out way more content too. You know, the bigger team. Even like how no jumper ran, like, how it's, you know, it's a lot of y'all. We got to, we got, we're like, they can sit, to me and to what I've even heard. We're like the 96 Bulls. Yeah, I'll go crazy.

You know what I'm saying? Bro, we got the whole starting lineup. It's like a network, you know. It is. I go on my TV. That's all I'm seeing every day, different shit. Like, that's the goal. Because I know just me alone.

Shout out, no jumper. Shout out no jumper, man. What we doing, man. Love that. For real. Just to even hear from you, like, man, you know what you want to hold the criteria to. Like, man, shit, I see what y'all niggas doing. And you're no different.

You can do that. Why not? Why not try, man? Yeah. I mean, at first, you know, when you first starting, you just, every day you learn. You learn every day. It's a learning process. So now that's what my mind on.

First, I was learning the cameras. I was learning how to do the interviews. Just learning the craft. But now I'm learning, like, the business. and what, you know, it's like what parts to put to the team type of shit, like what I need, publicist, shit like that. I wasn't aware of none of that. It's still things that I need to learn about.

What do you feel like you're missing from your formula? That you do know about, but you're just trying to obtain. Really, the team, I have a team, but my team really do shit like, take the editing off me or help me film or put the content out, shit like that. but I need more things like, like I said, like the publicist or what else? I got you, church. It's just all right me, man. I want to sign your own.

I want to sign your own, church. Come on and come fuck with me, man. We're talking to business. We're going to get this shit together, man, because you owned this something. For real. Pass all the bullshit because I don't want people to paint you in that light because I think that was just you really just standing up for you, man. You felt disrespectful in certain senses of what.

what they have saw you on last. You know, me talking to you, you're a very intelligent person, bro, and you know what you're doing with the game that you got. You know what I'm saying? Like, for real, I gotta give you your roses on that, man, because just even talking to you,

you're in, you understand, you understand this shit. People watch your shit because you bring real to reality. I like that. Me and you are a lot of like in that aspect. I like that about you. You bring real,

to reality. That's what people want, right? That's what they fiend for. They want to see the truth, right? I really, what I'd be trying to do because a lot of artists I work with, I know it's like when they die, but it's fucked up to even have to say, but when they die,

the fans act like it's a game or something. Like, they'd be like, all the BDs up three points now, or all the GDs up this. And it's like, hey, y'all keep a score like this a basketball game or something. So, like, I kind of wanted to like, show people like these real people.

Like, this could be your brother, your sister, like how you look at them, and when they die, you get sad, like these real people, they get real emotions. They're not just savages and evil and crazy. Like, they all think, like, a lot of this should be systematic. A lot of situations people put in, like, yeah, you make, a lot of people, yeah, they are making choices to do certain things, but it's like,

this shit really was set up like this. It's like, it's not a coincidence. Like, this shit. get deep all the way down to like the projects in Chicago. Like, I think Ruehler even came on here to explain that shit. Like, the projects is a reason they made the projects. And it was basically to see like what people would do when they all crowded up and buildings like that with poverty.

And they tested it with mites and they didn't see what they did. And then they did it with black people. And at first they all started like, you know, they might put like a building over here. with money, this building, I don't got shit, but like people start fighting and killing each other just doing all type of crazy shit. But once people start making money and starting to figure out how to, like, really make money out those buildings and get millions and start uplifting, they tore them down. And when they tore them down, it made shit even worse.

I remember the Capriene Greens. Yeah. Remember that? Yeah. They still got the Caprienne Greens. It's just low-rise now. But like, once they tore that shit down, everybody, like, started spreading out. why there's a lot of people in Chicago that's into it with their family and cousins and

shit because they were all in the same building there's family but this family went over here on this side and this family went over here on that side so you know as shit escalator it's like that's my cousin but yeah I and some people really be in two of their cousins like they'd kill them it's like it's all from them doing that shit with the building's like once they're saying people start making money they tore the shit down And not saying like people don't get like take responsibility for what people doing about a lot of people really born in this shit and don't know no other way or don't got no choice.

He's a deep brother and I appreciate you, homie, for coming here today. And I'm gonna need your ass back too, man. Just keep mashing, keep getting pressed. I need you to do that man because that just gives us more to talk about, more your sightseeing that you go and do. I appreciate you for coming in front. coming and fucking with me today, man. And just, hey, just coming and breaking it down

and we ain't gonna talk about no sucker shit. That ain't what we was here for. We was here for you. And I feel like we executed that here today. The Sharp Tank. No jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. And you know what we are.

Hey, Riley, shoot us out the gym out this motherfucker. You need.