No Jumper - 1900Rugrat, 100kTrack, Big Ro6 & NoLimit TC Interview

Episode Date: December 24, 2025

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How you be feeling like, all right, let's talk about the Kodak. You know, how you be feeling, like, could you probably talk to Kodak and speak to him on a regular? How do you feel like the blogs and everybody be trying to say that Kodak, you know, he might be having some substance abuse issues and shit like that? What do you know and like, what do you see? Um, like, honest, like, to be completely transparent. Yeah. We fell in love with Kodak Black at 17 years old or, and one of the biggest records, which 1900 in Hurricane, Wisdom, just remixed like that, you know, it's called that, like, on the project.

called that like on the project the one of the lines he said I mixed Molly with my lean right one job early on so this was 17 yeah so you're telling me we as consumers fans supporters been understanding and supporting an artist that's been talking about these things since he was 17 but now he's 28 maybe his maybe his features may look older things may he may not look as you know a certain way on certain things maybe getting high on weed or whatever whatever, and we're making into a narrative like he got a problem, which is, which is crazy because Kodak been in the same Kodak since he's been 17.

Man, one thing is, like, we're artists, like, I could be like, and have a cold and they be like, he on that power. Yeah. Everything is like, you better not sniffle. Right now, if I take on my glasses and I ain't sleep. Oh, bro. Oh, bro. We got features.

Like, we're sorry we can't look like. Like when he was sitting on the floor eating chicken, like, bro, like a big can't sit on the floor. What if there's no chairs and I've been standing up for three hours? Right. We're getting in a car, I'm worth millions of dollars and my homies will tell you I'll jump in the trunk if it's too deep. And also another thing is, even if somebody do got issues with substances, everybody

got their own battles. And I got something I said in a song, like, I forget exactly what I said, but I said everybody got their own problems. You feel me? Like I mixed drinking with the X. They're like, everybody got their own issues. That's why I don't judge nobody. But he's fully, you listen, Kodak is fully functional, operating, dropping great music,

great music, you know, working on. You're going on the musical running. And I'm, and I'm boughs from, bro. He's in a city right now, putting the city together, bringing artists to Florida, doing shows, setting up stores, buying property. Like, bro, when me and Kodak talked, he got so many ventures and he's always putting on people genuinely, buying, paying stuff for 1800 block, his neighborhoods, like, yo, this man is one of the ones. And continually dropping music and feeding his fans.

So it's like, yeah, I hate to see. A lot of people don't know his artists. Like half of the artists he got under him, he got out of bad deals that they was in. Fault for them in court, got them out of bad deals and got them in better deals with other labels. They're not just under him. He really be putting people in position. So he fully like, bro, that narrative is just, I think people picking choose what they want to see. But not.

I think some of the clips do get. I think he play into it too. Yeah. He put a booger on the girl's head. Yeah. for people to think he's in a same state of mind when he's doing that shit. But this is the same artist. But look, though, correct?

Yeah, you apologize for the other day. It's the same artist, though, that was taking a shower and dropped his phone on live. Yeah, yeah. It's not like you just started doing some crazy shit. So it's like, this is my brother now. Like, you know what I'm being real? So why? So how are we now making what was Kodak, spontaneous star quality now into issue?

Right. To me. There's a compounding effect with time as you. you continue to do drugs that a lot of times like you're 21, it might look all good. And then by the time you get to 30 people start to be worried about you. So I do think it's fair for people to be a little concerned sometimes when they see code-and is two different things. That's true. That's true.

Like making it coming from a place of caring. Like making someone feel like they're something that they're not, which is a, you know, an addict or a junkie or whatever is terrible if it's more like, hey, bro, did you eat today? Yeah. Like, yo, bro, maybe you got to, like, go in the sun a little bit, chill. You know, it's different than that. So that's what I'm saying. I'm going to be real, like, a bibbing telling me I look like a crackhead since before I was

heavy on drugs. So it's like, sometimes they might just look like they, because I'd be like twitching and some more shit, especially when I'm out and it's a million people outside. I might be looking crazy as everybody looking like I'm on drugs. I might be sober though. Listen, my dogs are dropping great music. That shit makes it hard to get sober too. And he's going hard to get sober if everybody gets sober.

gonna come at you like you high even when you sold you like fuck I'm gonna just get high regardless then that's how that's why I'm gonna be with his kids man he'd be living his life you know but you know to you know just a shout out to code though hopefully you know everything is good one of the goats one of the absolute most influential right now best music you know like you can't take anything away from me like I say that strongly like I don't even think Eminem J Cole Kendry I don't think they say it though they tell they they tell the world that Kenzel Lamar that Kodak is one of the most lyrical person.

One of the only street rappers he ever put all over an album. On his album is with the floor of the bounce of like the, you feel me, like the bobby with the creative, lyrical, wild shit that just make it. Right. All right, but I see people saying that Kodak and Young Boy don't see eye to eye because Kodak feels like young boy, his spot where he's at right now is a spot that Kodak should be in.

Okay. How do you feel about that? What spot? It's Kodak should be in. Kodak's one of the biggest artists in the generation. Right. Young Boy might be having a moment, but young boy also newly free. We didn't really get to see too much of them for all those years,

whereas Kodak been free for many years now. No, no shows. And one in barely no interviews. Nobody's seven years, right? It's like a huge buildup of suspense for that to even grow up the way of it. I say one thing, no. I'm not just kind of that shit. I hope I ever did that.

That's what I'm saying. Like, even with like, even with a young boy, like what he's doing for the culture of music and what he's doing for the like hip hop is like phenomenal like no shout to him but there's no place that Kodak needs to feel jealous to be because Kodak is Kodak. I think it was more so on. I don't see it what place needs to be. I don't know that you know what I don't talk about that shit. I think it's more so on some shit like they had past issues whatever came up came up now they both doing little and and that shit need to stop period. They need to be cool again in my opinion. They just they were

it's cool they need to be back cool that's that deep it ain't a deep beef you know what I'm I don't think I don't think anything I don't think anything in this life that's I don't think anything in this life that's that's not moving you forward or helping you take care of your livelihood is and is is more more more important than that you know so but regardless to answer your question I don't think Kodak had to feel any jealous of anywhere anybody not just young boy anybody right that's what you're saying he's saying he's the fans. The fans just putting that.

But that's, bro, little baby's still a little baby. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's just the type is going to respond to everything, br, so when you make a song

and he feel like y'all just made some towards me, now I'm going to respond. You know what I'm saying? That's what happened. Yeah. So if you make a song with somebody that I signed

back in the day and you making it look like you trying to like playing my face, Cud, just like me, he's the type going to respond to that shit. He's not going to let it be no old.

Because, braddle blah. was like, oh, young boy makes song with Kodak X or a-du-rah. Now I feel like y'all playing with me. I'm gonna drop this and that's gonna be that. And I'm gonna pop it when you in my city for the show. I'm from pop out. Yeah, I'm from pop out.

That don't mean I'm jealous of your spot. I mean you play with me and I'm responding. Yeah. I feel like the media is, I feel like the media put people more than- than each other against each other. The fans too, though. It's not that sure.

Everybody's getting money. Everybody's going good. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And this is coming from somebody who like, really, really love, like, the culture. I understand where we're at in the music scene. Ain't nobody.

Everybody's still the same person. They are present-in-wide. They just got to continue working. This shit is not one-day thing. Nah, I feel that. One of the songs that you did drop recently was a song called Rockstar, and I want to bring in Big Rock. You know, let's get Big Rob on here.

Big Robin going crazy. Come on. We had remade that. Rob did that, Like good or sally. I got her shit with glass. What they do, y'all? What's the word, man, big Rob, man.

You out of Indiana? Yes, sir. Indianapolis. Indiana is right. Got to correct it because, you know what I'm saying you got different parts of Indiana. Yeah, so break it down. What part?

You're from, man. I'm Indianapolis, Indiana. East side of, you feel me? Like, you got your Terre Hotes and you got to Gary's and all that shit. Like, you feel me? Like, people think of Indiana and all there, you got those different parts,

but they've got to represent Naptown for sure. Naptown. Indiana. at near Nablus. That's crazy what happened to y'all to the playoffs last year, though. That's all good, man. The Colts going right now, though.

You feel me? The Colts gone. If one's going to do it, the other one will, and they both of them feel, said, you got big Rob popping this shit for the shit. So look, a lot of people get your name wrong, they see the Big Rob, but the Rob, the B is replaced with the six.

Yeah, that was this big row six. Yeah, big road six. Because that's all right, so why is the six replaced with the B, or B replaced with the six? Is that like a city thing? At first like back then like, no, I was more like growing up at first like I used, I was banging GD and shit. Ah, for sure. But then transitioning the shit, I ain't gonna get more into that, but you feel me, it's a meaning beyond everything.

But now I'm like standing with the business with my brothers, we, BCF, you feel me? And then like, so the numbers and everything is two, three, six, you feel me? So the six is replacing the beat up, you feel me, in general, you feel me? Like, more the cartel movement, too. Me too. You feel me. Man, I ain't going to lie, bro. I started listening to your music.

And I, bro, you got some, you got some shit. Yeah. He ain't a regular rapper. You're not a regular rapper, bro. Like, you're going to be a superstar. I listen to all type of music, though. Who influenced you? Because, like, I ain't allowed.

Not the disres, it sounds like some, like, Hood, Willie Wonka type. I never heard. He didn't even make music. He just had a chocolate factory. No, but he got to. The upluplus who got like the arms, bro. I'm telling you, I was listening to him.

I'm like, yeah, what the fuck? Hey, we don't have one thing with the pirate thing. But he got like a, man, bro. So like where do your style come from? Like shit from me. It just come from being me. But like real shit, I'm about to say shit. Because my favorite artist is like, it's shocking.

I'm about saying. My favorite artist is Michael Jackson. Oh, where I. You feel me? Like, it's the go to all goes to me. You feel me? Ain't nobody doing what he did. So that's why the same.

Singing and harmonizing and all your... I'm about say, I really said that came probably just in the family. My family can, like, church, going to church and all this shit. Like, my family can sing, you feel me? So, just me, I'm about I say, God gifted me to be able to do music, shit. Like, I can't say too much or better, that's just what came up. And then, when you start rapping? Was this like...

I probably start rapping. I probably been rapping like four years, but shit. I'm about saying, like, really taking it serious was like the past two years and all that. I was going, starting off with my pop's dealing with a lot of losses and shit. You feel me? So I'm like, you feel me, it was making me really go, like, go wild and then there to get on some boo-ish shit and shit. My pop's ain't like lose his life and get killed or nothing. You feel me?

He had a bad heart, you feel me? O.G. just passed away. But then it went from, shit, my pops. And then somebody like I called like a little brother to me, you feel me. My sister, baby daddy, you ended up getting killed, you feel me. Then shit, I lost my brother and my cousin. Same night, you feel me. And it was just domino effect.

Like literally my, like my little brother, I'm about to say his repass that night, my brother and my cousin got killed. Damn. I was just domino effect. So the domino effect is. I was about six months, I lost five people. You feel me?

So I'm like, man, like, shit, I think I'm there next. You feel me? Like, what the fuck going on type shit, you feel me? Like, something going on. Like, I know for a fact there was a dark cloud over the family type shit, you feel me. So I'm like, man, I don't know what's gonna be next, what's going on.

Mr. Me, said, I'm making just money just doing I'm doing at the time, you feel me? So I ain't know what was next. But I still was, I was fucking with the music though, for sure. I'm just like shit. Everything I'm going through instead of getting on some boo-ish shit,

especially when my brother and my cousin got killed, I was ready going ahead and you feel me, do some extra shit about that. But I just put that shit into the music, man. And shit, shit, just started escalating. I'm about to say, shit, doing decisions. I'm going to debut at first, you feel me? That was like shit.

That was the one that cracked off for you, right? It did what it did. The whole squad, the first song? The whole squad is my first song. I ever did, you feel me, ever just written down. But Decisions doing that on the debut. You toss me there water. I bet like 11 million views right now on YouTube.

Man, I listen to that. I'm like, damn. When I, my kid, I forgot what I was doing. Now, you're talking about the decision, because you said, whole squad was your first song. No, when I did it on the debut. It definitely did what it did. It was like them there a week after my pop's, like, repast and shit.

So I was still kind of going through it at that time. But I knew that was the song I wanted to do type shit, because seeing the thing, debut in that podcast and seeing the music that was coming beforehand. Yeah. Everybody thinks as soon as you hit a podcast, you got to come with some turn shit. You got to come with some shit that you know that's going to rock. And I knew for a fact, like just when I first did that song in the studio and shit, I'm like,

I know people gonna like this song. Like I just want to, I gotta get at it, be able to get it out type shit. And the video cool, you'd be doing like a little dancing. Yeah, that was a celebration then just because I was happy that I finished this song for real. And I was just like, damn, like, you feel me? Like, I'm just in a studio like, damn, I just really just, I did this. this but at the end of the day I was just more thinking like

I didn't think it was gonna go viral like it did I was just like no fucking with this song you feel me and shit and shit they phone that's what happened to see I ain't even peep that shit for the first like two three days though like I wasn't even I was still going through shit so I wouldn't really paying attention to my phone

like every time I looked at my phone I was getting another call about a death type shit so I'm oh shit my phone ain't even near me at the time I'm getting to sleep high I'm hitting a bottle heavy You know, you on anybody else, you on my phone. You feel me? Like, just letting me know this shit, you feel me?

So this is a... No label, anything involved. This is just, yeah. It's just, I'm about to say, this is when decisions, just when I first did the video. And, like, when I dropped it, I'm about to say, I say the first, like, three, four days, it was just like, that's when it was getting that attraction just going crazy. The first week and a half is where they had already hit, like, shit, damn there two million off that. It was, like, them there one point, like, one point, seven or something like that. Crazy.

Yeah. I'm like, within like the first day, like three, four days. My fuck is like blowing my phone up. I'm seeing the car. I'm like, I end up talking to my brother before he passed, you feel me. I was talking to him. He's like, do you not see you all on social media? Nah, that's, you don't like.

Hell not. Like, what the fuck going on? Yeah. He's like, nigga, you're going viral. Like, you're on Facebook going crazy. Like, he was the number one person telling me about TikTok. Like, boy, hey, they liking your shit on TikTok. They like your shit on TikTok.

And he used to all the way, he's proud to say, like, this is my little brother, you feel me? Like, you doing your thing, you feel me? But long story short, like, I was seeing it, but I wasn't peeping it yet. You feel me? And then when I clicked on Facebook, I was seeing all the notifications and said, I can't scroll without seeing my face. And then I go to Instagram, same thing, you feel me, TikTok.

Now everybody, them, they're making it. I'm like, damn, this shit happened. So was it, uh, was you pushing it on TikTok? How did everybody just start catching along? I didn't really put, I pushed it like once a little bit. It did good on my page. It got a good attraction. Now with my cousin Nick, you feel me?

And he did that, like, that was like my manager before really going, like, you feel me, like hitting the label and you feel me track, become my manager and everything. But Nick put it on his page and it went dumb. Like everybody, that's what went viral. Everybody sent, like by saying, them Drusky shared it and all type of shit, I'm like, ah shit, that's going crazy right now. Like, emotion is not for real. I'm about saying, I don't really know, I ain't know shit about too much of this posting and hitting

it like social. I knew to get on social media for sure. Like, I ain't no old hair like that or nothing like that. But I just ain't no like him just him posting it. Like, because I posted a different clip of the video and it just got it. It got a good attraction on my page. I'm like, okay, shit. Like I got like 200,000 views.

He got 200,000 views and shit like 15 minutes, though, like 20 minutes. I'm like, hold on, bro. I'm like, you're about to skate past my shit. Like, what the fuck? He's like, now I don't think it's going to do too much. I ended up getting like three million or something shit on his TikTok. I'm like, god damn. That record right now to his day is one of his biggest records and he's shooting the remix

with G Herbo today. I was in the studio last night. It was crazy. Yeah. It's going to crazy. Like having somebody that like was really in your corner like and got to see you like shine but like didn't get to fully see that shit. That's what?

Like my brother? Yeah. No, no. It was like, yeah, all the people that I lost you, feel me? They was definitely in my corner. They all f***ed the music. So it was just, it played a big factor. Like, I was more, I was definitely shitty.

Like, my brother's seen it going a little bit, but he ain't seen me make it. How did you lose your brother? My brother, he got, my brother and my cousin, they got stabbed up in the club. Where? Yeah. You, you know, y'all kind of close to Chicago, so it would be a lot of, like, street shit going on out there? I mean, it's reckless. It's reckless.

And that shit was, I ain't going to get it to that. You feel me? But yeah, that shit was reckless, though. It's definitely a lot of street shit that go on. But that's more like with the younger dudes, though. It's like they're in a war right now, you feel me? Your brother, older younger than you? No, my brother was older than me.

Big brother. How about I say, bro, I believe, what, 32 when he passed? But it was just like, damn, he just did 13 in the joint. He only been home barely a year just to get killed. You feel me? And it was just like, before that though, like, bro was even. He was about to even, he was just violated and shit. So he's about to have to turn itself in.

I was talking to my brother this night. Like, we was really beefing, though. You feel me? Like, on some big brother, little brother's shit. Literally some big brother little brother shit. Like, I don't be liking how bro be talking sometimes. And I'm saying, when he ain't last seen me since I was 13, you feel me? I'm a man now.

You know what I'm saying? Him coming home and still like I'm always respect to his big brother. You feel me? But watch how you talk. You feel me. I've been through a lot of shit. With a than 13, you've been gone. Yeah.

I know you've been through some. shit through the joint though but like being out here and been going through what we're going through losing you feel me right hands and left hand man's and shit you feel me bitch I smack you watch how you talking to my god my bro came from the bid it was the same that was just more how we talked to each other we had talked so much shit we ain't gonna put like you feel me we ain't gonna put no hands on each other like if it came down to it it to just be we're just gonna fight you feel me you gonna make me want to kill you though watch out you feel like the bro was he he good like I can throw these motherfuckers but bro was

that he was a beast with them chicks, you feel me. And he, 13 in the joint, you with the gladiators and said, you feel me. Like, it's different, you feel me? Like, but that's what really fucking me up the most. You feel me, like, you was gone for a great period of time, you know, a lot of life. Come home barely. I get, we get one birthday with you, the bet, like you look like a little-ass kid. You feel me, like, my brother was gone at 18 and ain't come home until 31, you feel me?

So, that's a big gap, you feel me? That's a huge gap. You know what I'm saying? and f-h-up. So, like, so, like, you seeing a grown-ass man really be a kid on his birthday and shit. He's having so much fun. You know what I'm saying?

Just for everything to be gone type of shit, you feel? Almost not to say it, but you kind of almost wish that he did violate and went Scott sent back. I just, I wish he would have left. Like, I wish I could have took, like, when we was talking, I wish I would have been like, come on, let's go ahead, just take this ride. We could talk the rest of me, turning. Like, you feel me, turning you in instead of you having your night because he was, he was really expected to get caught.

in the raid type shit. Like, he was already knowing that. He's like, he's like, he's like, uh. I ain't saying this is a good thing. He's gone, but like, my mama always told me like, he don't like, don't regret or not regret, but don't like, look back and be like, I wish I wish because like, man, God got his time, you for me, it could have been some horrifying shit that could have happened if Cull went and got locked back up.

Not for so. You feel me? I ain't saying, you don't stand on Tim, but you don't never know, been, God, God be doing shit for a reason. So, that's how, that's how, that's how, that's how to see. He still get to watch you. get to watch you, feel me? So it's like...

Oh, God. So how long until track really got involved? You know, decisions is out? How long until track really, like, hitting your line? Like, hey, that's what we doing. Said track had hit me up before. I just ain't see the message. Word.

I ain't get to see it at all. Like, my page was going crazy. Yeah, yeah. Everything was just changing for me and just like, I don't know how much is changing for me like that. Like, I just see my, everything just going crazy. I'm already like, before I even dropped this video, I was only got like 6,000 followers or something, you feel me, or something like that.

And he already in the DMs was 6,000? Nah, it was in the midst of everything. Right, it was just on the bus. Right before I dropped it, it was like, I'm 6,000 followers. And then, like, within a couple days that I dropped this, I'm like, I already done skate it up, like 25,000 followers now. So it's still going up. I'm getting comments after comments.

Yeah, every label. Everybody on them. I ain't, I ain't know, like, all the labels who was hitting me up, I'm asking on my guy, like, who was out of these people, bro. because I'm so lost in, like, the fake pages and all that shit, so I don't be knowing who, who. And then when I finally even did get the, like, because he hit me up from Melly Page, I believe, you feel me?

I'm like, man, how the fuck is Melly hit me up? Ain't no way. Like, I'm like, damn, I'm telling my cousin or, like, one of my guys, like, ain't Melly locked up? That's the nothing. They're like, yeah, they're like, he's damn real. I'm like, his shit fed or something, right? You feel me?

I'm like, he ain't be hitting me up, right? Right, right, right. I'm like, I'm showing the messages and shit. Like, artists and shit hit me up. Like, when Gates even reached out, like, you feel me? This shit for her. I'm like, like, niggas, this really gay's page? You feel me?

Like, hell yeah, bitch, I follow his page. You feel me? When Rod hit me up, I was like, that's the label, because his label just hit me up trying to sign me. I met because I didn't even go up to him because I'm thinking he probably don't know me. He came up to me. I'm like, oh, shit. But now, I be thinking that shit too.

I'd be like, they ain't, it would be for real. That's the label, man. So I'm, I ain't think none of that shit was like. So then when you started taking a series, when you took his DM series, like, oh, I tried this really true. No, actually, we, actually met him in LA. Yeah, I was about to say I was invited to the, um, to what, 300 camp at the time? Yeah, that was last year.

I was, yeah, I was invited to the camp. And, uh, yeah, this I'll just. When you say camp, it's like a writer's camp or? Yeah, artist camp. So, uh, I was invited to the camp. I was talking to, um, a few of the guys and shit and track star walked through the dough. Oh, shit. So it was actually a thing.

He didn't invite you to the camp. happened to meet you. Nah, yeah. I'm about to say, I think it was his last day in L.A. So who invited you to the Kent? I was invited by about 10K, by 10K and 300.

Which I was explaining to all his situation, which is very unique, too. He had a very brand new, unique situation. Not for sure. I was just talking to a few of those guys and tracking it up coming through the door and all that. We've been locked in ever since.

He's like, damn, hold on. Y'all had big rob here and y'all ain't let me know. And I'm lost. So you already kind of know who he is Yeah, I was on his mom. I didn't know the track was. So I'm like, damn, who was he?

You feel me? Like, but he looked like somebody. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, damn, who the fuck is he? My cousin. Did you, oh, sorry. Did you feel like, like, is that the first artist that you signed that was already signed? Or that you started working with?

Oh, okay. So you helped him officiate the 300 deals. Everybody was trying to grab Rob, right? Okay. And like he said, it was so much going on at one time because he had the biggest record at that time. like decision was one of the biggest records like this is a now-on-one like every label was trying to grab this guy right so they doing the rounds and stuff we pull up I see him at the stuff but Nick knew who I was and Nick was like not this track and then he connected me with

Rob and that was just like his previous management and then we was just talking and then from there I think I flew him to Miami and he stayed well you stayed with me for like a week in Miami yeah and then from there we just locked in ever since stayed at the crib you know what I have a few of the guys with him. We shot there, balled up. And this vibe, because I really wanted it. Because the thing with him, he was like on some stuff like, bro, I don't even know if I want to sign or do anything because this is all new. Like, this is happening at one time.

I'm like, bro, forget all the business. We was in Miami for like a week. We didn't talk to no business. Oh, we did was vibe. Like, you know, like, you know, track was the one, like, I'm gonna fuck with him. You said you got everybody reaching out. It was more like probably when we went to Miami and shit and it was just like everybody, everybody, you could tell everybody, like, You can tell everybody, like, everybody, of course, everybody wants something.

Everybody wants, like, they want to get you and all that shit. But it was just, I don't know. Like, even when I bought a few of the guys out there, like, with me, because I'm like, shit, I'm like, shit, can I bring a few people? They're like, shit, how many thinking? You feel me? Like, yeah, come on, bring them, you feel me? And then we all got a genuine, you feel me, vibe out from him.

Like, they had, like, they were chilling with him, talking with him, playing the game with them on their own little time, doing their own little thing. And they tell him, like, bro, I really f*** a track, bro. Like, he really cool in the bitch. They, like, and I'm already thinking. it like in my head like, man, I might go on here to do it. I didn't talk to a few labels and shit. I got a few other people to talk to. Shit, even Gucci didn't reach out.

You feel me? I'm like, damn. I might not go with Gucci, but I do want to get game from me. The 10-17 curse is little. You know what I'm saying? That's what I was thinking of, but I'm like, if anything, I ain't never, never, it could have been bad things about tracking if I f***ing, we're going to change that. You feel me?

Like, if I were to f***ing 10-17, we were just going to change that shit. You know, we was going to make this curse. We was going to make this shit like, ah, hey, hey, hey, hey, we're going to 1017 did this for Rob, you feel me, whatever. But now this, shit, I got 100K, you feel me? Like, shit, we about to do this for Rob, and we about to pop shit. You made the right decision too, don't.

Yeah, and that's what I gave from America. Like, that's what I was like, when we was going out and doing our thing for that week, and we was just here everywhere and there, like, that's what everybody kept saying, though, and I just kept hearing that, like, just. Oh, for sure you did. You feel me, like, I'm just like, damn,

it ain't like he telling them to say this shit. No, I probably. You feel me? Like, they're just saying this shit, like, you feel like, track got to you, man, like. Yeah, and then like when we was going out, off the bat, he represented me as his artist. And we ain't even, we didn't even lock it in yet.

But I felt like I was, though, like, see, I'm his artist. Yeah, we hear, we hear, we hear, and then like, everybody telling me like, hey, you made the right decision. Track gonna do this shit that other CEOs lacking nowadays. He gonna make sure the artists looking at, he put the artists first all the time, you know what I'm saying? And he do this shit, like a lot of, like, a lot of rappers, like, I was just saying, I was comparing him to like, yo, Goddy. Like, yo, Goddy, the only artist or CEO who I really, who I really, see make sure it's a thing like hey I'm gonna come do the interview and have my whole unit here we gonna present each other as a unit and that shit work and go a long

way so like now for show Lincoln with track 100% I'm gonna yeah and like I was telling him I was telling Adam and on B more earlier too bro Rob and listen bro like this is a very intense game data-driven game though this you know this the man numbers he's hungry but his reach at but his numbers and like Like the traction he have and the core fan base he's building is crazy, bro. Like he's really one of the ones that's like his fans is like hardcore, like riding out for him. Like he's dropping songs on YouTube, getting millions of views, Spotify, millions of plays. But his like the comments, like he'll post something on Instagram.

We'll get 50,000 likes. You know what I'm saying? And like 5,000 comments on just like, oh, this is the rawst thing I ever heard. It's so new. It's so different. And, you know what I'm saying? He's all like he's, he never won. like went into that like mind frame of like well I made it like he's starting from

scratch like just working every day that's how you know you know you you're gonna go far as shit because like you brer don't never feel like you made it bit hungry as shit with a full plate on God and I just know this shit it changed my life for sure yeah you feel me like just four five months ago you probably never hung out with a dude like him before yeah I'm gonna say nah right I mean I ain't gonna say not a dog like don't get it too he said we got some cool we got some cool ass white people in D Yeah, everybody got to cut me in the hood. You know what I'm saying?

Like, you know what I'm, but he different though. Like, then he floored, he got that, he got that accent and all that shit. Like I told my fuckers when I first kicked it with him in the hood in Miami, I'm like, man, 19 really cool than the bitch. You feel me? Like, when I see, like, when I see him, like, when I see him, I'm like, I'm like, bro, he looked like he's annoying than the . He probably, he's probably annoying than the .

I'm like, but, bro, like, that was just like, the only vibe I got from when I first came, popped out with him like, bro, it's really chill in the bitch stuff. Yeah, we just cooking in Jackson, yeah. Not for so, you feel me, brought me out there. Was that the first time you met or was it at the show? I think we met before that. It was the show, right? Because I brought Rob to one of 19 shows in Orlando or Tampa that he was booked for it.

Nah, yeah, we met, but I was like, that was my first time when we went to Jacksonville, like, well, we was vibing out of this shit, you feel, for sure. Yeah. And everything, like, we just kicking in the shit. And then, like, I'm like, you know what I'm saying? Like, bro bringing me out to perform with him and shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, and then like, track brought it out to my tent.

Like, you should go out there and whatever, like, he ain't had to, like, let me He could have been like, nah, this is my shit, whatever, you feel me? He wanted me out there, and he showed love with it, though. So, it was just like, oh, yeah, rock with this shit. My brothers and shit, too. I know, yeah. How to rock star all the song come about between y'all? We was in Jacksonville, a goddamn home.

I had pulled up, like, all the way from goddamn Broward. Browardt all the way to Jacksonville, I pulled up in the wheel with the holes with my brothers, the turn. That's a long drive. Yeah, six hours. He did. Like six hours, like six hours or something. He's like, yo, where you at?

I'm in Jacksonville. with Robbins. He's horrible. He's like, pulling up. Y'all was on the ex-for if you went. He was like, five in the morning. He's pulled up, bro. I'm like, I bet. I'm about to come to Jacksonville right now, right now.

He was in the road. I was scared. I'm like, bro, you're so, I'm waking up. Like, bro, you're still on the road. Yeah, bro, I'm good. I'm like, I'm like, yeah, I'm like, I gotta keep calling you, make sure you ain't sleep driving or stuff. Like, he got me to go to sleep.

He's up on. Don't add it. Or you were X, really? That X, like Adderall, Adderall, crazy-ass baby mama. That's what X is. My record came out so hard to, though, man. Yeah, you and Herb. So y'all was locked in the studio last night.

Y'all got some shit on the work. Yeah, we're about to go crazy, man. Video. I wouldn't even going to say nothing about the video. He brought up, man. You know what I'm saying? Nah, because I want to shock everybody, though. Like, you know what I'm saying?

You wouldn't know what I thought? Herd would have happened on it. You feel me? But we live in that age where people don't go that crazy with the remixes anymore, but it feels like Gherbo has kind of like. Oh, he's on fire, man. He's kind of like the guy that you call

where you need to turn your single up. Yeah. Remakes God. Yeah. Especially again, a Gherbo remakes right now is one of the ones because he don't have to do it. And to be honest, like, me and Jehribo got a long relationship from PTSD tour with King Vaughn.

Where? So, because he brought King Vaughan in his first tour. You know what I'm saying? Paid him and just really showed love. So when I reached out to him for Rob, and he listened to, he knew who Rob He was like, Oh, yeah, I heard this, like, this is the pirate guy.

He just shocked him, man, shocked him when I said out. They'd be saying pirate god. That's what they be shocked on you? Pirate man, pirate guy, whatever. You get me? Um, why that, where that come from? The sound? I don't know.

It's my voice, I guess, yeah. Man, bro, you got the unique-ass sound, though. Like, I ain't gonna lie. And then like, when people say they hear me talk, though, they'd be like, you don't even sound like that. You don't sound like how you rap. Like, but when you get the harmonizing, it's like, it'd be a vibe very time.

You know, yeah, you got that monotone that. Super distinctive. Like, you can hear it. You're like, oh, yeah, that's Rob. For sure. For sure. What other, all right, besides pirate and shit, what other rappers and shit they try to throw in there?

I can see the Kevin Gates shit a little bit. Early Kevin Gates. I'm about saying, I'm about saying. It was like, you kind of give me like a Mo3 vibe in your own way and all that. Like, they compare me to people, but then they say like, you just. But you're still in your own way. But the comparison is just coming with this shit. Yeah, I'm about saying.

I'm going to be tripping that dog. Like, I don't be knocking none of it. See, look, though, they ain't shit, because they only doing that, because you kind of look like both of their ass. They don't know can look, bro. They do that with me. They'd be in the end and shit.

Like, we're white. Yeah. We don't really sound like him at all, yeah. Oh, we rock. We rock, we rock. Yeah. Nah, but I'm playing. Who does Rugrats sound like?

No, but he has so many sounds, bro. I ain't gonna lie to Rugrat is, like, the Rugrat is, like, the Rugrat is, like, you're like, I be like. I'm gonna say to me, he sound like his own. Yeah, he got his own. You got his own thing. I down there, like, you know how Sosa be, like, rapping like, Gucci Mane and Gizi sometimes?

Like, that's how I rip it with Sosa. Like, I am, like, Sosa is to me what, like, Gucci was the Sosa, like. Man. We've been, like, tapping in more with, like, the underground scene and stuff. And, like, a lot of the artists people are playing for me, it's like, oh, that's like Chief Keefe in 2012. But that's like Thug in 2012. It's kind of like a lot of the underground artists

are doing throwbacks to our earlier version of artists that are still around, but like their older style. I think like, bro, I just heard Jit Blue. I don't know where Jit from. To my love blue? You're from the old. Yeah, you're from the old. Bray, Jit sound like Chris Brown,

but he rapping on like Chief Keefe, like, damn that Chief Keefe, like, what's that boy band, the kid group with the Jits, what are mindless behavior, some shit. Yeah, now that's the group. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's like a mindless behavior, like Chief Keefe beat. And he's making the beats.

Blue Blue? And he's, and he's singing like Chris Brown. That shit made no sense. It might be different, man. It's gas, bro. But yeah, I say, like, most of my influence come from like, old Thug, old Chief Keefe, goddamn Gucci, Gizi, OJ the Juice, man, goddamn Kodak, definitely. Like, I got songs where I damn there.

like rap just like him in my ball but family done master like yo night he shot me like this trip because we did a we went like at the camp like he just played like six seven songs with a new flow and like god damn when i lose my voice i'm like you know my voice i'd be like like that because i can't really like crack i got a a a you see how it sound off fuck you know that crack you got an a r she was gonna take it where it went like do you know everybody's gonna be I didn't know, but like, I knew that shit was like one of the hardest shit. You know when I'm playing, nah, I'd be like, I bar the out of this song. I barred that bitch up crazy.

Like, it's a bar in every second. Like, that shit. Yeah, now, you're going to crazy. Yeah, like, I got to get back on that. It's slipping. Cracker with a big stick, call me Crackerboro. That was another one that really stuck with me early on. I was like, oh, good.

The Cracker bars really works. That's what really captivated people. Also, one thing I'd be thinking about is I can't mud it. Because if I be like, I'm a real-lad Cracker, a R, then like, a black person can't sing that song and relate to it. So, like, it work with Cracker got an AR because you could be talking about your homeboy. You'd be talking about your cracker, you're crazy cracker. Everybody got a crazy cracker.

Yeah, if you go into the like, if the music goes in like a white shirt, like I'm very, very proud of being white, that might be like a weird angle. It's not related to me. Not even that. It's like I refer to myself as such sometimes and I got to refrain from it in the music because then like a person can't like relate to it. You know what I'm saying? Type shit.

Because I only got white fans. Rob, who's somebody else that you would want to work with in the future? Like you had like to put your dream album together like who you want on your project? You're ready coming in strong with the herd feature. Michael Jackson, AI. Damn. Be wicked.

be fired. A-I gonna keep getting better. Can you make a-I? I'm about saying A-I is going crazy anyway. Yeah, for sure. I will want to work with Yeh too, though. Like, that'd be with, I think that'd be crazy too. I don't know about right now.

He'd be doing some crazy shit. Well, now he's on his apology to her. He did, he might be good. Oh, he's what I got going on. Look at the music for motherfuckers to hear, you see me. You see me? Try to do some food shit to him. A few people I want to work with.

Like, I want to work with Yack. You feel me? I want to work with, uh. Yeah, I feel like that's gonna be. I got a Vaughn record for him too. That'll be gas, man. You got a lot, hold on. You got so different.

Because look, hold on. When you do a song with him, he's gonna go off what you do. Yeah, I feel like, you should hop on and he hop on and then he go off of your flow. Right. He's gonna be. Just like how you're doing with the rock star. Yeah. Shit, I, shit, young boy energy and then like, shit, I got my, like my partners and shit, they love that, too, you feel me.

So, shit, I'd wanna do a record with young dude. He said he got a Vaughn song for you. You heard yet? Nah, I ain't heard it till he. I always got some shit. How many Vaughn versus in the cut? Nah, for sure. For sure.

I say like two full projects and then, you know, a couple pieces. And you still like overseeing the projects that drop and shit of the stuff, but I got, that's what I'm saying with Rob. Like, with Vaughn next here, I'm gonna, you know, like give some workers out to a couple artists. You know, artists that I feel like is rising that fuck with like the new generation, like baby drill, Big Rob, a couple, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?

Younger artists and stuff. Or even, you know, like the Polo G's or like, you know, other people. So next year, Vaughn's going to have more like features with other artists dropping records. And then we work on a project later on that year. But I definitely got some. You just strategically have to pass them out. Yeah, yeah. But Rob, there's a fire verse that I got for Vaughn that I would like him to do a hook for.

That'd be hard I'm good with them hooks, man No, I'm already knowing I'm like, yeah Now I already see it Like in the corner That we're gonna bring on too Like between

Every n-knit that shire got Y'all superstars in my eyes I know your pirate I know your pirate I'm good with the hooks Let's bring no limit T-C In the building man That boy got the voice of

Ange No he's been coming up over here man uh so we send now they be they be calling me officer remos i heard you officer you officer clayton what yeah so let's give him some lure i don't think i don't know the lord so uh you used to be a security guard armed security armed security for how won't four years word and then that was uh you was doing that all into the rap shit well not even rap but like until your music career started taking off or like i always been rapping but i did arm security for that was my once i turned 21 how well you know 25 okay so you were doing that for what

four years yeah about four years damn okay that you think that like helped prepare you for the rap game to understand some of the threats out there no i'm from kansas city yeah oh so you didn't really it wasn't that kind of security no it was that kind of security i'm prepared like this where cause saying like he said he said kansas city you like that like that They get the bridge. That ain't just Patrick Mahomes out of them motherfuckers. Thanks. Do better, Patrick.

I is. I'm going to do better. You got real serious for a second. Do better. Oh, man, Patrick, he ain't holding up. We love Pat, though. But so, okay, tell us a little bit about growing up in Kansas City. Like, what that was like in anything?

I mean, it's like everywhere else. They got hoods, really. It's just a lot of killing. A lot of young people die fast. Really? Really. Really? Really.

Really. in the city. But other than that, I mean, it's cool. If you mind your business, probably won't have a problem. But then again,

it'd be like through mutuals. Yeah. Like, it'd be a lot of shit. Because it's like, it's not like, like out here, don't they got like bloods and crips or whatever.

Yeah, you know what. We got a million different kinds of crips and half of them don't get along with each other. Yeah. It's like, it's like neighbor.

What Krip Mac at, bro? It was neighbor. You got to, you got to let me meet. God damn leftee. Oh, I got you.

I'm going to get you. I'm gonna get you a printback verse. Oh, yeah, I need that. Everybody needs that. 50, 50. Everybody need it. Keep it five, five. Five, five.

Oh, crap. Your crowd. It's not set banging. It's more like neighborhood banging. It's like neighborhood, but then it's like, it's weird because you could have a, it trickle down. I feel like, it's like neighborhoods. Then it went to clicks. Yeah.

And then it went to like just groups. Like, it's weird. So like, if you, if you, if you, I'm neutral, you know, I'm trying to put on for Kansas City. Yeah. How'd you kind of stay. out of getting involved in the politics? Or did you? Yeah, I'm out of the politics,

but I know him very well. You just got to know who you are, really. And don't let that. It's influence. Don't let influence getting your head in the city. What's the gun laws like in Kansas City? You can do anything. I could I'm going to say,

you said you use an armed gun, arm security. Yeah, you can carry anything you want. Yeah. So being an armed security is not like, Do you have to, like, do any training in them for anything for that? Or, like, when I first started out, I went to, like, a little camp, like, when I was working for Titan. And they, all they do is spray you with Mace.

Where? Oh, one of those, like, TikTok videos. Yeah. Yeah. It's, like, they spray you with Mace. And they'd be, like, here, this is how you put handcuffs on. Where? Or, like, first aid.

It's a lot of first aid shit. But that's. And that was just majority of it. But, like, all right. But you said you started doing that at 21. Like, it wasn't, like, college or anything. Like, you always knew you wanted. Did you wanted to be a security guard?

Like, how did you even get in that lane anyway? Nah, I, fuck college. I don't like, I didn't like school at all whatsoever. I did school and did my best because I was playing football type shit. Like, other than that. What position? The year. Oh, yeah, yeah.

A motherfucker big at hell, dude. All right, so you playing football and then? Playing football, but it was like, I was working at, I had like slim chickens. I was working at that. Loofies, it's a fish shop. shop in Ken City. Boy, that 9 to 5 grand is on a different. That's what I'm saying.

Every rapper should have to work for a couple years. Yeah. And I found out, I found out about, I think it was Garter World or something. I got a job there. Literally, I called in the boss after I got hired. I'm like, hey, I'm here, you know, what do I do? He's like just sitting in a parking lot. That's all you got to do.

And that was the first security game? That was the first security game. They like a company, like a security company. All right, where, where. But I did that shit. And I'm like, what the, man? I fell asleep. in the car woke up.

So it was like easy money. Yeah, it was easy. Once I found it was easy money, I'm like, oh shit. But like, it's also like unbelievably boring. Yeah. You know, it's a give or take. You know what I'm saying? It's boring as something happens.

And then even if something happens for security. So it's like, yeah, what am I going to do? Nah, many times in my life, I've just been looking at a security guard just sitting in a chair. Like, you're waiting in line at the bank or some shit. You're like, that dude really going to be here for like the next 10 hours today. Like, that's crazy. But then I upgraded it. So like, fast forward.

My brother got my fault. My brother got a goddamn security job. So you can chill on FaceTime, all that shit. Literally, I was writing music at work. That's how I got through it. But working at Westport was different. When I got, when I started doing arm security, that's kind of like different because they put you in spots where you're going to need a gun, like type shit.

So that shit was kind of different. And track kind of found me right in the perfect time. because it was getting crazy. So wait, how much motion do you have before a Trek fan? You're like, how did that come together? Everybody knew me. Okay. Yeah.

I wouldn't say everybody, but, I mean, I was not. You had a lot of labels hitting you up and everything? I had one. Okay. But you only had, like, two songs out from what I've seen, unless you delete it, all the old music or something? I want on your YouTube channel. I only can see two songs that was on your YouTube channel. You got to look up Apple Music or something.

Oh, so two music videos out? Yeah, we made a decision to take down some of the old music videos. I had just because of the quality that I was putting out after and it just looked better. So what songs do you feel like had tracking everybody paying attention to you earlier on? Prento advisory. Prento, all right? So that's a song about your song, right? Yeah, yeah.

All right, so break down how that song came about and the mindset you was in when you made that song? I had an argument with my girl. That's how it happened. And that's exactly. I went to the studio. I just so happened I had a studio session that day and then boom. And that song's super far, by the way. Like, vocal talent, I'm like, damn, like, this nigga can sing like a motherfucker.

It's crazy that, like, it came from a real-life situation. That's where the best music come from, right. And it's called, like, Feed My Son, or what's the name of it? It's called Parental Adviser. A parental advisor. Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, that song, I heard that song. I'm like, oh, yeah, track out another one.

Like, I'm hearing. I'm like, oh, yeah, instantly I can hear this is a hit song. So, like, you recorded it because you said you record all your music at Cold Red Studios? Yep. That's where you recorded that one at. You still with them in shit? I didn't tell you that. This is what I do, man.

Yeah. I was just thinking of that. Fucking narwhal. Yeah. I have to know that. You're no limit T-C. You're no limit T-C, man. What is no limit saying for it?

No limit. It's no limit to what I can do. Yeah, no limit to what you can do. Not like the, because, you know, no limit is like a group of Chicago niggas. Bro, it was like. And a gang. And a gang.

No limit was like, we, me and Darius, RBA. my boys we we was no limit boys we was throwing parties and shit doing shit like that but they changed their name i think to full speed they full speed now but i kept no limit tc because shit that was my rapper name is on my disco and what tc stand for my name oh word like government names that shit or gotcha gotcha got so then uh so track when is track getting into the play like when is uh i went viral bro i i i made work chilling a b the mac comes up he a streamer in kansas city young he came up to me put the camera

in my face i'm after you viral though at this moment no this is how i got all right all right he talking shit like singing ass and we talk the shit back before i like i got you right now though yeah yeah yeah yeah because people always come down from the to see me at work or shit or talk shit you know it's all look he posted it on instagram and it got like three million views like it was just going crazy. Everybody hit me up like, T.C., you know you going viral. You at work, though, you know what I'm saying? Like, your music is on there, but you at work, you in your uniform.

Oh, yeah, because you didn't want people to get, you thought I was, yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn, yeah. Yeah, you've been, yeah, I, nigga, when I heard the song, I had to know, I'm like, this no, okay. Officer Clayton meet Officer Remo. Oh, yeah.

Oh, God. You was underwatched, my boy. I thought I was going to get fired at the time. Yeah. I thought I was going to get fired. Yeah. Uh, my boss was like, what the fuck you rap? Why didn't you tell me

this is amazing? And I was like, oh shit. Like, I'm fucking good. Yeah. I'm like, I'm meeting there. Like, I don't give a fuck. And then I think track DME, he was like, because I think I posted something like,

yeah, I'm going viral. Hopefully I can quit my job and finally do what I want to do for the rest of my life. And I think track DM me was like, you were serious about your post? And I ain't even know who track was. Yeah.

So I'm like, who the fuck? is this, like, DM me saying this shit, like, what? Track was like, send me your number. I sent him to my number. We FaceTime. Quit your job. Yeah. I quit my job.

And how soon did you get to quit your job after he asked you, like, you said it. Two days after? Two days after? Two days after? Or a day, nigga? Like, he made it happen, man. Yeah, he made it happen. So that first.

All right, for show. And people have been hitting me up, you know, little deals and shit, but. When he got out at you, it makes sense. Yeah. Word. Yeah. So then, all right. So you go from tracking you up to you quitting your job two days later.

So from you are you still in Kansas City? Like after you quit your job, what goes on from there? Still in Kansas City is a grunt. We just put music out. But now you got some money behind you. Yeah, for sure. It's way easier now. That's why I feel like this sound that I'm just doing now.

And I do all type of music. So it's like car rap is asshole. We cook some ass on. Yeah. All right. He took some crazy shit. He got to get you. He reminds me like, like Kendrick for real.

Like, no bullshit. Like, he could rap, bro. I seen you say Kendry like one of your favorite rappers, right? Yeah. Influences and shit. For sure. Could people always say that people outside of LA don't really listen to LA rappers that much? I guess Kendrick probably be the exception.

But like, he just always resonated with you? Yeah, just growing up listening to him. I was always in band and shit, bro. His jazz funk beats and just everything just really, it just worked for me. Like, that's just what I was. I liked hearing, like in high school. I was in band, playing the drums. I was in jazz band, shit, shit.

So I always been tapped in with the music shit. Yeah. So, like, he was just like, damn, like, this is hard. Like, what the, and the beats he was using? Like, this is fire. Like, section 80, good kid Matt City? Like, what was it that took you to live? Section 80, but really, um, the heart part one was the song that, like, I was like,

I want to rap. Like, what the fuck? Like, this is crazy. And that's what, that's, I feel like that's why he's my favorite. So were you like really loving the Drake beef? Hmm. I was not loving the Drake beef. Why, why is that?

Because Drake is Drake. He hardest, the melodies, his singing. I'm a singer too, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, it was, it fucked me up. But I'm like, I mean, I picked my side. So you're just 100% team Kendrick no matter of, man. I didn't say that. Oh.

So you're more of a Drake fan. Who you put it? I didn't say that. I didn't say who. So internally inside your own brain, you picked a side, but then publicly you stayed Switzerland. I picked my side, bro. I fought with Drake. Just Drake the long way that I'm a dog, bro.

Yeah. Shout out Drake. I mean, I kind of picked my side at a certain point in terms of the Drake thing. And then you just got to ride it out. It's like, she, you're going to lose this beef. And I'm still riding it out. No, but I fuck with everybody, bro. Drake be showing me mad love, bro.

Oh, real? I ain't know. like, Cubby, like, he had, my, I posted one of my brother's, um, music videos. He had, like, my brother shit. That shit turned the whole hood, though. He was all so lit about that shit. And then I hit him up. I hit him up on his birthday and got, um, he had hit me back.

He was like, I seen him on new freestyle. That bitch is hard. Yeah, yeah, he could be. Yeah, Dre pay attention to everything. He probably ain't, right now about you, nigga. To him, man. He'd be crazy. Nine times out of ten, car, he'd go, bam.

He tapped at him. He'd be crazy. He ain't hit me up yet. But, yeah. Let's see if Drake will respond to the Big Rob video. I'm going to send him a video right now. Just tell him to check the shot. He broke up.

That man be tapped in. Nah, Drake do be tapped in. I've seen you said, like. He might be talking about. He might say he already seen it. Oh, he might watch it right now. Like, yeah, I already seen this shit. You know how niggas be doing that part too.

I send himself once in a while and then, like, if you don't respond, I'm like, oh, do you already know? Like, am I just a lame for thinking he doesn't know about this? to the party. You seen the shit he posted with sexy? The tennis? The tennis is a post? He posted some Photoshop shit.

With a swole that on. Yeah. Oh, God. I'm f***ed about her, too. She's fine. You know, I fought with sexy rad. A little fine, man. Shout to sexy.

Who else were your influence and shit? I know you said, Kendrick. Uh, bro, I took a lot of influence from everything. That's why I'm so versatile. Like, you can name an artist big. you know what I'm saying and yeah I take influence from everybody that's what it makes me you know who I am you said you've been rapping for like five years one thing I watched one of your

interviews you said uh used to reach out to a lot of people yeah and they you know used to like never respond back to you yeah and uh it made you feel away but now like it makes sense you get it now though because I've been one of those people too like before I got to where I was at I used to reach out to people's shit and thing yeah fucking see the vision until they see the vision Yeah. So do that change your mind, though, now that you get in this position, like, are you still going to be like, mindful? Like, all right, maybe they just didn't see the shit. Or do you still hold people accountable? Like, nah, you didn't see my shit. I ain't fucking what you still. It just make me feel like I got to work harder. It don't. I'm not holding them accountable because they didn't, like, why would they be looking for me? I need to work harder. So it's in their face. It's got to be undeniable. And I get how to game go now. It wasn't planned for them to see me yet. Or us to meet or us to talk. You know what I'm saying? Now is the thing. time. No, I feel that, right?

Everybody feeling slowly be finding out who no limit T.C. is real, real, real soon. No, yeah. You guys both are, like, super clear indications of track just, like, still having his ear to the streets and just, like, really being able to somehow repeat the same thing. And not just finding, like, artists,

just to say he has an artist, but actually finding, like, real talent of, like, people that, like, I can easily hear out on Billboard, Top 100, like, constantly over and over again. Because we always talk about that how it's like, it's kind of easy to spot like a dope street rapper

but then ultimately like what is the longevity, you know? A lot of like dope drill rappers you kind of look at him and you're like, this song is hard but I don't know if I could really see him taking it to another level. Yeah.

I'm taking it as far as I can to the touch. What's the, what's your recording process like? Are you writing shit out? No, I just get in the booth and go. You know? It's been involved. I got that tism, you know? Everybody flexing that tism.

That's real, though. It's hard to explain. It's hard to explain. You go in there and it just comes. You want to put adlibs on that bit sometimes. I don't want to go to the next song. You want to listen to that bill. Man, it's on to the next one.

Boom, boom. So tism is like the new or word, right? It is a vibe, though. Because I was, I used to always try to write and prepare myself to get in the studio. But, like, when you do, you feel me, you catch that voice. and it's like it's hard to explain to somebody for real.

Like, so I can, I can feel them when they talk about the tism, but it's like, yeah. For me it's like, shit, it's just a certain vibe you get when you, like, shit, when you, you just catch that rhythm and then you go. For real though, like that, the flow come out harder. I had, last night I was freestyling and I had the next beat come, I write like four bars. I get in the booth. I say I didn't hit the four bars.

I rap for like a minute freestyle. Then I like, rip the four bars. freestyle for another minute after that four bars that i wrote was the worst part of the song actually you reminded me that uh when i first met track that that that was kind of like part of his superpower is that melly i've never seen anybody record like this he would just get in the studio with the beat and just be howling saying so much crazy shit and then as soon as he got done doing that for like 10 minutes track will go over with the engineer and be like surgery really telling the engineer like nah take that part move that right there and i'm like bro they must have a crazy like

relationship if he's able to actually like pick apart your verse like that and create something like no bullshit a lot of those melody songs that people love like track is all up in the mix like his fingerprints are all over that shit suicidal yeah got down a few other ones and like bro man i was cooking something last night with uh montana he pieced that bit together so gas i ain't even put a hook on it i ain't even i was fun to have it like me rap montana rap me rap montana rock and like eight 16 16 like a no hook But he pieced that bit together so crazy the hook nuts. Oh, God.

So track really on his producer shit. So when I hear stories like that, how involved you let track get in with your creative process? He don't. He just kind of let me do it. Unless it's like a certain song that, because bro, I'm versatile. I can do anything, like anything on the mic I can do. Unless he has a certain thing that he wants to like, yo, I want you to do this, like try to do like like something like this, you know what I'm saying?

Then yes, but other than that, he just let me, like, I was in the studio there. He wasn't there. But he called me and was like, hey, you got to open, boom. And that's how me and Rugrat, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, like, when I'm with track, track gone got down. Because chat, no I don't make hooks, bro. Like, I don't do that. Like, I just get in that a bit and I just like.

That's how I came up with rock store. Yeah, like, I just rap. And then like, whole time I don't be realizing there's always a part of the song that I could make the hook. because I say some catchy shit and get the flowing. So track be like, when track in the booth for me, get on that. But when I'm dolo, like, my engineer be doing that. I got a good engineer I'm really locked in with it

that like be keeping me on my shit. Because I just like, they're like rap, bro. But I ain't gonna lie, bro. I be fucking around with the auto tune, all types of shit too. But that just be, I'd be fried, bro. I be in the booth so much. I can't just do one thing, bro. Like, I can't just rap this.

Bray, you ever, like, bump an artist and, like, four albums, and they all just got the same cadence. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, what the fuck? Like, I like Yadi. I like Yadi. I love Yadi music because he switch it up so often, bro.

Bro, Yaddy's going on a run right now. I don't think people have painted to. That shit was Scrilla. Bro, his verse he killed. I fought with Scrilla, but I ain't allowed. He killed Skrilla on the verse. The verse he put on quote that album is... I don't even listen to Yadi like that.

Yeah, yeah. That's shit out of us, man. Yeah. Crazy. Like, Kodat whole camp, we're bumping that shit, bro. We, over that, that Yadi song, I was going to a weed convention the other day in Miami. I heard that shit for the first time, and I was bumping through the album. I don't know what the fiatty be on.

Yaddy going on the run. Him and Herb having on runs right now where they hopping on everybody's shit. And that concrete shit, so gas, bro, D.C. and draft. Yeah, what's all with you in D.C. relationship? I'm a lot. Y'all locked in. Sometimes I don't even. He can't touch the hotel when I get to LA, bro.

You just pull up. Yeah, D.C. career the whole time, bro. That's my dog. Yeah. That's hard. He rap his ass off. Yeah, now I'll follow D.C. How it happened, because I reached out then when I first blew up,

because I'm like, I was a big fan. I'm still a fan of bro, for real. Oh, 2016, I had Yadi set up to do his first interview, and he just walks in the room with Coach K. And I'm like, brand new to, like, interviewer rappers, but I know who coach K is. And I'm like, what the, you sign a? He's like, yeah, this my, because keep in mind,

at that time, all he had was Migo, Skipa, Flippa, and O.G. Maco. So like, Yadi, I'm like, I thought you only fuck with street dudes. I used to manage Gucci. And in the middle of the interview, he says he loves Soldier Boy. Coach K, boom, on the Texan soldier boy,

like, yo, I gotta get y'all together. They were beefing like a month later, but. I remember. Nah, but DC, yeah, I had reached out. I'm like, I had, he pulled out of Miami. We cooked some shit, but we really was just in that bit, like, we pulled up. Cut buddies.

Yeah, I'm about to say I already know. That my drink buddy, bro. I don't got it. So, goddamn. And then his brother, Hazel, I'm with Hazel, D.C., and then D.C., and then Cammo was in Miami, too, when I met them boys. And goddamn. After that, we just kept linking up and shit. I'm a dog now, bitch.

Oh, God. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. Yeah, man, dude. He got so many stories. He's been in this shit for so long, bro. Like, bro, that man, like, found Chief Keith Eddress. back in the day and walked up to the crib.

Tato walked up to the door. Tato walked up to the door clutching. He was like, oh, the LA career. He was like, bro, I got drinking hose. Br, I'm your neighbor. What? I was a crazy way to. That DC cool and fuck, bro.

I bet Tato was appreciative of that. Yeah, he's like, go on in, niggins. Yeah, what I said, yeah. Got drinking hose, come on, man. Yeah, we be in Paramount. We'd be cooking at the career, all that. So I fought with Dee Savage. out here too.

Yeah, I've always said about D Savage, man. I was mad as for up. My label didn't clear me to be on the album. Oh, for real? On his album, because my album was about to drop and I was mad as shit. It was a song with me D. Savage and Dave Bluntz. Oh, wow.

Because Dave Blunt and D Savage be cooking up all the time. The song they got a donut, my label ain't cleared. That's great. That shit pissed me all bad. Damn. So like they just, do you feel like they're micromanaging your career? Like they're picking to choose and what looks

they think are good ideas at this point. I feel like it was more so they was thinking too much about the marketing aspect of the album and not thinking about like bro like that shit

damn near could bring streams to the album. To the album. Yeah, I understand who D Savage is, bro. Like this is a real life like legend, bro.

Like that's my dog but I'm not ever going like look at Cud no different than that that's a legend, bro. So it's like that shit piss me out bad.

I ain't on. You know, that's crazy though. But now my My label be doing good for me, bro. It would just be a little shit. But just little shit like that, and you'd be like, damn, man. Yeah, but it's industry shit, bro.

It's label shit. Brough, y'all know it'd be tricky. Yeah. But at the same time, you know, like the label is who's supposed to be working to make you bigger. So it's like, sometimes, you know, you do kind of just take a back scene and be like, I'm gonna let you guys call the shots on this, I guess, yes. It's a tricky one, man. Because I see rappers try to go independent all the time, and it don't really work out the way they thought it was going.

I feel like that shit gotta be tricky too, because like, if you're independent and you don't got a label to push for clearances and shit, then like what other label is gonna clear anything for producers or for artists or whatever. So that's where like the term blackball and get goddamn thrown around. Because if you go independent, how the fuck you're gonna get a feature clear from an artist that like maybe was on a label that you used to be on, you know what I'm saying? Like, or whatever the fuck. that's your best friend.

The label would be like, they'd be doing a whole shit behind the scenes and having them grudges and shit. Yeah. A lot of labels got beef that we don't even know about. And they switch over, like, it'll be a guy working at this label with the next year he's at a whole other label.

Yeah. You know how that shit goes. But man, so like, what's the music scene like in Kansas City, though? Like, is it... It's very... Competition? Yeah, it's very promising.

I'll say that. Those some names out there, some artists and shit. that we might not know but like people if you're from kansas as you will know kansas city kansas city i mean yeah kansas city um get on that ass yeah let me know he said kansas city nita the whole the whole angel crew so me scorpio season little bean shunnen in better days she made clothes or oh she's a rapper no she's not a rapper or oh that's your that's your people who made that shit yeah better day i got you i got you i got you uh that's the the that's the the

That's the people I'm pushing right now. I'm gonna push everybody else when I get a little bit bigger. For right now, it's the Angels. Did you really just hit me with this in the DMs? Yeah. Y'all ain't sure. The thing like that where you're like, so now you're supposed to punch me in the leg?

Nah, you got to slap you on the back of the neck. That's the neck. God damn it. He has an open DM with me and that's the first thing he says. Ever? Got that ass. Got that ass. I got that neck, man.

I just peep his red. on the right and blew on the left. That big glass. Yeah, that's all I fought with glass. For sure. So the angels? Yeah, angels. Corrupt angels.

Yeah. We're gonna be on the lookout for them, man. For sure. So y'all doing, we gonna get a compilation project out of all y'all and shit, what everybody got in the works? I was thinking about that shit, bro. When we go to these camps, we need to just make a whole, like, collective album on some shit, bro.

That should be tough. Like, how they do Dreamville and shit. We'd be harder than Dreamville. I got a few things. in the works you are we're about say you are we already spoke on the video yeah yeah nah I ain't gonna say too much on the other shit but it's coming out you feel me soon though for sure yeah no for sure yeah yeah so I'm gonna like a bad-ass yeah I'm about say even so as soon as I go back to the crib I'm about to suit

another video so you feel me yeah yeah we all the all the studio nowadays I'm in there four days a week I'm about say me as man uh I can't really say like four days a week or nothing like that but it's been way more like often than what I like I used to just picking tools, but now it's like, shit, that's my life now. You feel me? I ain't even want to, I wasn't even thinking of being the rapper at first. I was trying some shit out. But seeing that my life changed out this shit, shit, it's my job now.

So I'm in that, my f***. You have a phone with this shit? Nah, for sure. Like, then, like, even when I, like, long as I got a beat, I feel like I got something, for sure. Like, I used to, like, I said, I'm a writer still at the end of the day. But when I don't got the writing it, like, and I still got the beat. So I just go in there and let the shit, let the music find me and shit. I rock out.

Right. And everything. So, yeah, I'm still having fun with this shit. That's the only way you're gonna keep really going. Like, just about having fun with this shit

for me. Gotta have phones and shit, man. Because you stress out too much and all that. You got, I mean, stress, it's going to shit coming. You feel me like a,

I definitely believe in the sand shit. More money, more problems for sure. But, shit, you got to, yeah, about said the music,

shit, that's just how some people who don't even be real vocal for real, like, I'd be a nervous, I don't even like talking for real like this shit.

I be, like, I ain't gonna say even nervous. I just don't even like shit. I just don't even like saying too much. I read this shit. I'll speak it out of the music, though, for sure. I mean, you go through your whole life. You don't got to talk to that many people, and then all of a sudden you're a rapper.

You got to talk to, like, 100 new people every day. It's different, though. Nah, I'm about saying. Yeah, it's very overwhelming when you're becoming a celebrity overnight. It's like, it's like you got something that could keep you busy 12 hours a day if you choose to do it. Yeah. And it make you money.

And it make you money. Nothing better than that at all in this world. Like, as much as people like might like hate, like, the limelight or anything that come with this shit, this shit is the easiest and best job in the world for the people who love it. For real, facts. Oh, my God. All right.

I love it or your ass ain't gonna make it. For real, that's how I look at it. You don't love it. It's over with it. I can't in a car. I can't go a day without hitting the studio today. I'm making sure I get in the booth. I told me I'm going to do this day.

Not for so. If I don't got a session book, I'm gonna, like, even down south, if my main studio all booked up, I'm going a different stew. You're popping out in this studio. I'll go to Trippy Red House and record some shit. You can come to a motion? What? On God.

Type shit. Let's do it. Let's cook. Let's go. Be cooking like a crack kid who got the recipe. Like a rich cracker. Man. Oh, man.

Yo, appreciate you guys pulling up. For real. It's been dope. Shout to my man, track. Yeah. I'm glad we finally got to do this. To this point. To this point, really.

Yeah. No guess. Adam, I need you say something for me, bro. Okay. I'm going to record you saying it. All right. Say, Scorpio, shut your fat ass up.

Okay? Hey, Scorpio, shut your fat ass up. People actually come up to me a lot and do that kind of thing. Yo, no, let me get a video you telling my friend he a bitch. I even do it to you. Nah, he don't let that shit. I even do it to you. I'll be having him cuss out some of my homies back home and shit.

That ain't not for real. Yeah, I know you locked in. You be airtime, you post some shit of me, that big beach showing love and you don't ever post no bullshit. I think the first thing I posted was you have the, you have the rock and launch with like, Ron, don't know. Yeah, but I remember you get me up by that video.

Yeah, I'm like, alright, bro. Tapped him, man. So it was love, bro. And you know, track. Come on, man, y'all got the best guy for the job. I swear to God, man. That's a guy for job, man. That's a guy for a job.

I'll be saying that shit to him. I'm like, he don't even be knowing how much he be saved. Yeah, like, for real. Like that bad ass. Whatever lifestyle they was living, you feel me? Like, he don't even be knowing, though. So, yeah, you definitely can't bet against track, man. He's going to prove you wrong every time.

It's a pattern at this point, man. Real life, track got that track record. I got that track record for show. I didn't think of that. I need one of my money. When I was picking who I was signing with, I'm like, I'm telling track. I'm like, you got no pun intended. Yeah, I got a good track record, bro.

Everybody you work with gold, right? Man, what? Then they got the best. Like, when it comes to the, executives of the modern-day age track is like the executive. And then he's Florida, br. Oh, bro. Come on, bro.

Who else we got? He made it from nothing because it's like, you could give it to like, you know, people like Godi and shit like that, but they're like famous ass rappers, you know? He did it up from just pure. And they're from the old era of shit. When you put it, like, when you think of this new generation and shit,

track, the Florida famous, my freed out there, aunties was rapping his shit. He got a song, I'm exposing him that. He got a song. He used to rap. Oh, yeah, no, he's a rock. You got a song for the merch. Let me say, ride that D.

Baby ride that D. Right. Freaking man. I swear, that's a big. Yeah. Yeah. My auntie's knowing his music, you know, the Lord of Famous.

Everybody go to that song and leave a comment right now if it's still out there. Oh, God. No, when I first met track, like the first thing you said to me was like, yeah, my name track, I'd be running the sniper game merch. Merch. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Now I didn't go full-blown game in a long way.

Gleeful grills, too. Gleeful grills, yeah. And, he saw, he saw, But he put, right, everybody he worked with, fam, is somebody he grew up with, like, even down to the people that was working in. Definitely put his team on. Literally, like, that shit.

That shit crazy. Facts. Yeah, we appreciate y'all pulling up for real. Thank you, Rimo. Thank you, Trach for lining it up. Rob, bro, grad, T.C. Don't leave me. I appreciate you.

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