No Jumper - 26AR on Getting Indicted at 14, Allegedly Shooting Nas Blixky, 22Gz Beef & More

Episode Date: March 2, 2023

26AR speaks on his early days, getting in trouble young, focusing on music, beefs, and more. ----- 00:00 Intro 1:40 26AR on growing up in Brooklyn and being indicted at 14 2:40 26AR breaks down the "...street affiliated" case he was involved in and fought the case for 2 years 4:40 26AR gives his take on the snitching culture 6:30 Adam asks 26AR about talks of him sh__ting someone off of a bike 7:40 26AR on being tapped in with Kay Flock early and if he feels like he has to pick and choose between people who have beef 9:30 26AR says that everyone in New York is being indicted and recently beating a conspiracy for M case 11:00 Flakko asks 26AR if he really sh__ Nas Blixky and 26AR says that the judge told him he had to come with a paid attorney because he was shopping in SoHo 15:40 26AR on if he felt offended by 22Gz post about everybody claiming GDK and breaks down why he dissed him 18:00 26AR says he was on Slam Magazine for playing basketball in prison and says he's better than Roddy Rich and Lil Durk at basketball 19:20 26AR breaks down how he got started making music 22:40 26AR speaks on people buying fake views and linking up with a bunch of UK rappers 25:00 26AR talks about working a job teaching kids how to play chess 25:50 26AR on if he feels like Brooklyn drill is in a decline and every borough sounds the same 28:20 26AR breaks down why he dissed Humble Gz and Flakko asks about Crooklyn saying 26AR isn't good on his channel 30:50 26AR reacts to people saying he got sh*t in Astoria and says it was just rocks being thrown at his car 33:40 26AR says that nobody is untouchable and things could happen to anybody 35:40 Flakko calls 26AR a "S.O Exposer" and that he's cleaning up the streets of Brooklyn 37:10 26AR reacts to people calling 1090 Jake a snitch for a situation that happened when he was 13 38:45 26AR explains why he enjoys appearing on the CC Show 41:40 26AR breaks down his beef with J.I. and Asian Doll stealing his bracelet 45:00 26AR on being scared of the fact that he knows he would be able to adapt in jail 50:00 26AR on the hip-hop police watching him and stopping him from doing shows in certain areas 51:40 Flakko asks 26AR if he's ever smashed Asian Doll and 26AR says that Taylor Swift is a GOAT 53:30 26AR reacts to Asian Doll calling herself the queen of drill and says Ice Spice got it right now 55:30 Flakko asks 26AR why he unfollowed Bizzy Banks 56:20 26AR reacts to Nas Blixky dissing him again and says he should listen to his dad 58:30 Flakko asks 26AR if he can protect him in New York and speaks on bomb effects during freestyles ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No jumper. Coolest podcast on the world. And today I'm with my man Faco. Yes, sir. And we're talking to 26A.R. Are you feeling, man? Slum Junst. What's the word, Ging? Feeling good. I feel like a dude came up to me in the park in Brooklyn and told me to interview you. Yeah, that's a fact. He's a crowd heights, brawl pop. Yeah, yeah, yeah. With the green ledges everywhere? They used to be green. They might be black or some shit. Nah, they're green. I think they're still green. Okay.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Yeah, that's my heart. That's where I'm from. That's why I grew up. That's crazy. Okay, yeah. Because I lived in Bushwick for, like, six. six years or something right around the way from there. And we would be riding bikes over there all the time. But this dude, I don't know why I took him serious because people come up to me and tell me to interview random people all the time. But I actually, like, Google it and was like,
Starting point is 00:00:40 oh, yeah, he's dope. I'll fuck with him. Yeah, no, I seen somebody post on Facebook, like, Adam 22 on Bravo Park. I'm like, what? Because I've been to your shot, but your podcast. So I'm like, where I call somebody from the hug?
Starting point is 00:00:55 And they was like, yo, he right, yeah. You want me getting him on the phone? I'm like, yeah, put him on the phone. And he really took the phone. I'm fucking for that. He was talking to me on the phone. Like, yeah. I like that, though,
Starting point is 00:01:07 because a lot of times we do interviews that are, like, set up by the publicists, the managers, the label, or whatever. It's cool to get into one that just happened from a guy walking up to me in the park and me just being like, I was doing some BMX. Yeah, yeah, I was out there with the squad, man.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Yeah. Or was a skateboard. Nah, riding bikes. No, I got a BMX team called On Some Shit. We were out there for a week just filming. being like yeah definitely but you still you still stay around there or is that kind of like just your past nah yeah that's my past that's that's that's the who i grew up at i don't be over there like that no more i think i indicted for hanging over there yes can't go back to that crazy but
Starting point is 00:01:46 okay tell us a little bit about what growing up in brooklyn and crown heights was like same for me i got indicted out of young age when i'm from over there like i got that i started going in jem when i was like 14 13, 13, not 13. But for the most part, it's not that bad. Like, you just got to watch where you surround yourself, but I just got in the wrong crowd. At a young age.
Starting point is 00:02:12 So you were seeing crazy shit going down early on, or what was this like? Oh, yeah. I was seeing crazy shit at a young age because I was with the wrong crowd for me. I mean, but you're saying the wrong crowd, but I'm assuming these are a lot of your, like, childhood friends and shit, right?
Starting point is 00:02:28 Yeah. I mean, that could also be the wrong crowd, for sure. That's a fact. I'm saying, you know. But where we started running the streets at a young age, I got locked up when I was like, I first got locked up when I was like 13, doing dumb shit.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Just doing dumb stuff. Running the stores, running in stores, doing dumb. Wallet. But so you were getting cut up for whatever ass shit back then, but then as you got, when did you get indicted for the real case? I got indicted when I got indicted when I was sick. That was 20 You got that in 2016
Starting point is 00:03:03 Or I'm 23 now I did four years And did you have any idea that that was coming Because it was like a whole gang investigation Right where you and all your friends get hit With a ton of charges all at once Yeah I ain't gonna lie like That shit was like generation
Starting point is 00:03:18 Well I knew it was coming but I ain't no one You know? Because it happened to my older Bro, it was like the older guys from the hood Browell it was a That's the park It's cool. Browell Pop.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Right. That's the indictment. That's what the indictment was called. Like Browah game. That was the one before us. And then it was us. We used Bergen. Bergen family.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Right. Oh, so they got indicted previously. And you hear about this sometimes. Well, it'll be like, oh, there was this hood over here, but now they ain't really a thing anymore because they all got locked up at the same time. And it just cripples a neighborhood in terms of that group. That's a generation. Like, even my low bros, they got indicted too.
Starting point is 00:03:58 it just keep happening like again damn yeah like so that's three times our hug got indicted right where we're from did anybody snitch on you in this whole process nah anybody i got indicted with we held it down nobody told really yeah we wanted a few out of like brooklyn to do that so you sat for four years just basically fighting the case now i sat for i fought the case for probably like almost two years
Starting point is 00:04:27 and then the plea was four years I took four years but at first my offer was four then it went up to seven then it went up to ten then like my lawyer got it back down to four really yeah he's like you gotta take that and were you kind of like expecting somebody
Starting point is 00:04:47 to snitch during this or were you always pretty confident like I felt like the group of individuals I got indicted with was solid like feel me like I feel like we were solid we stayed solid so I ain't think
Starting point is 00:05:03 none of us were time or I wouldn't expect that but you're also just so young that it's pretty impressive that you knew how to act in that situation I don't know like you watch the gangsters movies growing up
Starting point is 00:05:16 nobody likes to snitch man you're supposed to I don't know even cops don't like snitches they be saying that shit like yeah because they could put themselves in your shoes. Even if they're against you, they're still able to say like, damn, I wouldn't do that to my homie.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Yeah, I feel like nobody like a snitch for a shit, well. I'm not a trick to that. That's why I'm out of the streets. Yeah, I don't want you to do it. I don't know. Yo, but. Like, I feel like if you, if you're doing shit in the streets, you don't want nobody to tell on you.
Starting point is 00:05:47 So don't tell nobody. But if you're not like a street dude, you're not doing that. That don't apply to you, like, you could, you feel me? But looking back on how all that shit unfolded, especially because, you know, you were one of the youngest people on this indictment and there was older people involved or whatever. Do you look back at your childhood and say, like, damn, I was kind of getting, you know, had the battery put in my back by older dudes to maybe do stuff on behalf of the unit?
Starting point is 00:06:14 Nah. I felt like I was like, nah. I don't feel like that because I feel like we, like, I was very differently. Like, I was always, I always had like leadership skills for me. Like, I, like, If I don't want to do that, I ain't gonna do it. You can't tell me to do not. Nobody could tell me. Gonna do something. Even since I was younger, like, so now. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Is it true that you, because I saw something online and said that part of that case was you allegedly shooting somebody off a bike. Off a bike? And I've been riding bikes my whole life. And when I saw that, I was just like, damn. That's a crazy-ass move that I, even the best bike riders in the world, I never seen that done.
Starting point is 00:06:55 It's been a menace, man. So I had to ask. That's how I used to go down, no. That's how I used to be. Right. I mean, it's New York. You're driving around. There's a shitload of traffic.
Starting point is 00:07:07 You're moving slow. There's cars blocking the street. You're on a bike. You're moving around. Wait, though. Well, who was the op you shot off the bike, boy? Nah, I used to nobody. When they drove for it already, right?
Starting point is 00:07:17 That's a fact. Yo, bro, listen. If I was the op, bro, like, here, okay. So, do he make, like, Gangsta drill music, bro, because if I got shot off the bike, bro, that's the last thing I'll be doing is making drill music.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Can't you imagine, like, a Bronx drill rapper? And he got shot off a bike on it. I done her. What type of shit like that? They'd be saying shit like that still. I'm saying, nah. Nah, they'd be trying to drill rap,
Starting point is 00:07:42 but they ain't nothing. They ain't nothing. Who? Every crew in New York has some rapping going on at this point. It's just like we only know about, like, one or two percent of it because most of it's so ass.
Starting point is 00:07:54 getting locked every day. Right. I heard Swayze saying that the bookings in New York is probably like a fucking rolling loud backstage these days. Because there's so many motherfuckers back there. Like every lit artist in the city, damn near locked up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Especially now, right? Like, like, and like Seth Black has got like eight niggas going on. Oh, yeah. I think that today. Um, K. Flocking him. Yeah. That's my little bro, damn. Yeah, because you tapped in with him early, right?
Starting point is 00:08:22 Yeah. He'd been. Yeah. Not to not, right? So people actually like, okay, so they critiqued you for, I guess, rocking with like, like, K-Flight early on. Yeah. But then still rocking with like Chi and then C. Blue, like, so, and you're not from the Bronx, right?
Starting point is 00:08:39 So, like, do you feel like you have to, like, pick and choose between them or not? Nah, I feel like I do what I want, bro. Like, K-Flock and Eid our baby, I was rocking with them for, like, when they first started, for me. So I don't know. I don't pick a choose. I think they got beef now or whatever. I don't know. I feel like I don't got nothing to do with that shit.
Starting point is 00:09:03 I ain't grow up with chine-knits. I ain't have beef with these people. So I don't feel me. That's how I look at it. So I don't care with nobody. I'm just guessing, but I'm assuming the Brooklyn mentality is we are very, very serious about our shit. Whatever the fuck y'all doing up there in the Bronx is like, that's cool. Maybe if I really fuck with you, then I'm not going to fuck with the people.
Starting point is 00:09:23 But for the most part, that's some shit. And if we work together, it's kind of like music, right? Yeah, that's how I think. I want to say Brooklyn, because I see Brooklyn niggas do the same shit too. But that's how I think this shit music, but we ain't go through no struggle together. Yeah. I don't owe you that type of loyalty. Of course not.
Starting point is 00:09:42 But in most cases, they be wanting to do songs with me. They be hearing me up, so I won't deny. I was doing. But also, let's be real. You have been in the system since you were super young. And you've clearly been exposed to all this super real shit from really early on. And I'm not saying everybody who's like a drill rapper is just lying and shit. But there's clearly an extent to which a lot of these kids are talking about shit that they don't have anything to do with it.
Starting point is 00:10:05 They're smoking on opposite and nothing to do with killing. And it's like they're kind of like living a fantasy for an audience who also is living a fantasy who just wants to hear about some crazy ass shit, right? Yeah. That's exactly what's going on. And inside, man. for the real ones that really went through it it's just fucked up I feel like
Starting point is 00:10:25 because even when you got locked up in 2016 it wasn't as crazy with like everybody wanting to put every last detail in the street shit in the music right? That's what I'm saying this shit got crazy I still don't be doing those shit like that that's crazy shit
Starting point is 00:10:41 they said like that's saying your several people's up for failure because you see what's going on everybody getting indicted in New York that shit comes fast in New York like I don't know that shit is crazy
Starting point is 00:10:54 and especially with you being somebody who's already documented already has a history whatever it's like just going to be even more obvious for them to be keeping an eye on you so you probably got to move smart right try to hit me with another conspiracy
Starting point is 00:11:05 I beat it really yeah yeah so I was gonna ask about that man now did you really shoot like Knox Blinky bro because I'll be real bro listen right because look right because look bro I heard a news article bro
Starting point is 00:11:16 I heard yo and them niggas put them in a death box they said, bro. Like, there was like three... It was one nigga here, one nigga here, one nigga hit, one nigga here, and they just lit him up. So, like, you actually got arrested for that, you know? So, like, so, like, so one, you know, like...
Starting point is 00:11:30 Just walk me through that, bro, so I mean, man, like, you been picked up for the Knott's Leaky shooting. Because that shit was a real viral shooting. So, I got arrested. I don't know how much, much later, but I got arrested. They took me in. They lied. You know, when they first arrest you, they don't really tell you.
Starting point is 00:11:47 So you'd be wondering if, like, hours and hours. I'm just wondering, like, what the fuck? My lock the four, for me? Then, like, I got fingerprinted. Like, what I'm getting fingerprinted for? They still don't really tell me, you heard, but they just want you to fingerprint.
Starting point is 00:12:04 That's what I don't like, like, like, what the fuck? Then, I think they finally told me they said conspiracy. I'm like, conspiracy to what? They said conspiracy to murder. Like, the fuck. Then they took me straight to court. Now, I think I was, oh, now, I was in a precinct, and a piece of for a whole day.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Just starving, just in the sad for a whole day. Yeah, they ain't feed you? They offer me full, but... Nah. They be doing tricky shit. They'd be doing tricky shit. You can't trust that shit. Yeah, man, they don't feed me for three, four hours.
Starting point is 00:12:36 I'll be ready to tell on everybody, bro. That's why I can't do none of this shit. I get so angry when I don't eat. That's the tactics they use, though. Like, you've got to be mentally strong. You give me a pop-bye. I have to starving me out, bro. It's over with it.
Starting point is 00:12:48 You see the Pop-Oz box glistening on the other side of the table? He did. He did it. They got a lot of funny tactics they used, but like I told you, I've been watching the movies since I was younger. I believe the shit. The gay-stim movies and shit. So I know what they'd be doing.
Starting point is 00:13:04 But then they took me to court. Then the judge read it out, I-I. They said, I was on live with him. He got shot 30 minutes later. they said I picked the job I mean I picked the shooters up went to Mary, both of them are married it was all type of crazy shit man
Starting point is 00:13:27 You do rap about a Mary's a lot Huh? You do rap about a Mary's a lot That shit told me Wait wait wait wait hold up now bro And you picked up the shooters And Baltimore Marys? Elijah that's what we said in court Yo I go lie
Starting point is 00:13:40 Like that's a cold punishment But listen that's a cold That's a war right there though I got fucking They gave me $250,000 Bav Yeah, okay. Then they wanted me to get a paid attorney.
Starting point is 00:13:55 I already have a paid attorney, but I had to pay them more to get on this case. But I wasn't trying to pay him yet because I'm like, for me, this shit. This is some bullshit. They don't know. Yeah, so the next court date, the judge was like forcing me. He was like, you were shopping in Soho, so you have to have a paid attorney. If you don't have a paid attorney the next court date, For me, I never heard no shit like that.
Starting point is 00:14:21 They said you were shopping at Soho, so I have to have a paid attorney. Oh, the pocketwatcher. Yeah, like, that's basically what he did. Then the next time I had court, they dropped it. Right, because, like, what evidence would they be able to really have on you? They said I picked them up. I mean, you were on FaceTime with him or on Instagram Live or whatever. That's a big fucking deal.
Starting point is 00:14:41 And then it's like, if I picked them up, like, all right, well, tell me about the GPS data from my car. Tell them about, like, whatever. Like, it seems like that would be easy. to prove or disprove. All they had to me in that case was I picked somebody up. I could pick anybody up. I don't know, I don't know nothing. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Feel me? So that's how I beat that case. Damn, that's crazy. Yeah, for sure. Bro, how do I try to, you know, bro, listen, bro, the fucking Mary James is crazy, though, my nigga, feel me? I couldn't believe it. Bro, listen, right, because realistically, though, man, like, you got to be a real, like,
Starting point is 00:15:17 bum-ass nigga to like do like a drive-by murder for some of Marries and Zaza. Right? Like that's, nah, bro, that's down bad though, man. Now, question though,
Starting point is 00:15:29 right? So, I think like an open your surface, right? Where like, so I think like back then like you guys and the GDs like were cool, right? Yeah. So like,
Starting point is 00:15:41 so like what happened, right? Because you, because you know, like you always, you know, like videos together, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:46 so like what happened that like, you know, they kind of like made the riff between you guys and like... I'm saying, like, some shit in jail happened. Some shit in jail happened with them in one of my bros. Never since then, it's just going to fuck with them more. No. Did you feel attacked when 22Gs went on this little rant the other day about everybody being GDK?
Starting point is 00:16:10 Nah, he ain't say my name. He said names. He ain't put my name. Why that? He said he said he had. I haven't seen these people before. He's seen me before. He was cool.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Yeah. But you dissed him at one point too, right? Yeah, yeah, when I first came home. Where did y'all fall out over? The same shit, the bro's in jail, like. But really with him, I feel like, because he was really cool with my bro, Nico. So I was, like, he, like, Nico Pam on,
Starting point is 00:16:41 like, one of his first tracks and shit like that. You know what I mean? That got attention and shit. So I feel like when we went to jazz, he just said fuck us. You heard like he ain't really hold it down how he's supposed to, feel me? And even like pet Nico, keep Nico, feel me? Relevant. You know, right.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Yeah, so he just got on his own time. Yeah, I feel like that's why I don't really fuck on. Interesting. Can we go back to like, all right, so you weren't making music before you got locked up for those four years, right? But were you thinking about it while you were locked up or did you just hit the ground running when you got out? Nah, I ain't gonna lie.
Starting point is 00:17:17 I feel like I always really knew how to rap. I never used to do it, though. But I used to help the bros, like, make their shit. Like, I used to fake write for them a little bit sometimes. Nah, I was the thing about rapping, though. I don't know. What were you thinking about while you were locked up in terms of what you were going to do when you got out? Locked up?
Starting point is 00:17:34 I did a lot of productive things. Like, I killed myself busy. Because when I got bored, I'd do some dump shit, get in trouble. Be somebody yell, hurt somebody. So, locked up. Like, I did a lot. I got my GED, got it up to the college. I started playing chess a lot.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Chess? Yeah. Yeah, I became like a master level. Damn. Yeah, for a while. I was studying chess and shit. Playing basketball. I used to play basketball for real.
Starting point is 00:18:03 They tried to do a documentary, I mean, in jail. About basketball, because I was one of the best, you know, jail. A nice for you, though, man. Right? Like, like, because I've seen, like. I'm in Slim Magazine. Word. You were that nice. Waste him in the magazine?
Starting point is 00:18:18 Nah, I said. Like like AI? Like this? Okay. Now listen. It's on the grim. Who's better though? Like you or like Roddy Rebel? Because he got, you know, like, you know, like he's nice. I seen Roddy. Roddy can't fuck with me. I seen Roddy play before. Nah, I can't. But LeBron like said that like Rowdy is like a top five rapper basketball player. LeBron's a though? Yeah. Wow. They ain't seen me yet. He said Dirk was one. What?
Starting point is 00:18:46 I see Dirk too, Dirk can't fuck with you. Bro, listen to that, bro, like, if Dirk can fuck with you, and then you deserve to be, like, in an NBA, bro, because Dirk to me is, like, high D1 level.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Like, they're cool, though. They look cool, though. They can't fucking, you know. Yo, I've got to see, like, some highlights, you know what I? Nah, I've got to see it, bro. That's a fact.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Yo. So, getting into rapping, though, like, how did you start? rapping after the prison thing. Like, how did you get into that? Shit, because that's around the time where, like, Brooklyn was really going up. Like, Brooklyn's drill.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Like, I seen, like, Envy King, a couple people going up and shit like that. Pop Smoke. Yeah. And I'm like, how they was rapping. I'm like, yo, they rap, my shit, I've really been doing this. So I'm like, nah, I got to tell my story.
Starting point is 00:19:38 You were, like, that's why I started rapping in there. Because I know, like, that's really what fans attracted to like this story like they want to know if you really like that right definitely that's like way more true in rap now than it ever was before in the sense that like you know you'll have dudes from Atlanta like a little baby who was like a famous drug dealer before he was a famous rapper yeah you know but how'd you actually get in the studio or like how'd you actually get into it because because um this producer a live like me and him been locked in
Starting point is 00:20:12 like that's my man's before for me Because he used to make beats for my older brothers and niko on him. So I just called him like, yo, bro, I'm trying to rap. Like, I need some beats. He tried to send me some beats on the fucking cassette shit. Like on this cassette shit, but they denied it. I forgot why they denied it. They be thinking, niggas is smuggling drugs and shit.
Starting point is 00:20:36 But so he used to just play the beats on the phone sometimes, this shit. But I just started writing and shit. I just started writing no beat. I try to make songs. But so when you got out, you just started a relationship with videos and everything. Like, did you really think that you had enough talent at that point? Yeah, I had a storyline. Like the bros, I used to spit it to the bros.
Starting point is 00:20:58 They used to tell me like, yeah, nah, you're nice, bro. Like, you got to do that shit. So I made songs. I had, like, what I'm going to do. Like, I'm going to release videos every week so people know my name. Like, I still got them notebooks in my career. I got, like, 10 notebooks. Just rap, shit.
Starting point is 00:21:17 I have a plan, of rapping, all that. Yeah, that's what's up. So did it start hitting, like, as soon as you drop shit? Yeah, how are you? Like, it hit more than I expected, like, my first song, Aaron Rogers. It had more than I expected, because I already had the town, like the town knew I was, for me. Yeah. They know I was official, so.
Starting point is 00:21:37 So your name was really making noise like that, even just from street shit? Yeah, yeah, for sure. That's crazy. Yeah, right? Nah, because, like, you were maneuver, no, you, I think you dropped, like, maneuver like, well, but, like, two years ago, right? Yeah. And that's, like, 7.1 million views, right? Yeah, have you.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Right? Wait, was that, like, just instant? Like, did you know, like, yo, like, this is going to be, like, my, like, bigger song? Nah, I don't know. I don't think that was going to be the song. I don't know. I thought that was just another one. I was just making so much songs around that time.
Starting point is 00:22:09 It's just, like, I was put it out, put it out. I think that shit starts going up a year after too. Word. Yeah, you know that should be happening that, like your song will blow up a year. Oh, because it went up on TikTok, right? Yeah, TikTok is crazy. Yeah, it's like the fucking lottery for rap. That is.
Starting point is 00:22:28 It is. Even like me, the shit I post on TikTok, like, sometimes I'll get millions and millions of views on one. And then sometimes I'll get 10,000 views on one. And I could not tell you why. Like the one that got 10,000 views is way better. better than the one that got a million. That's what I be thinking. And I try real hard to understand it,
Starting point is 00:22:47 but I still am very confused. You know, I just seen some shit. They got a button that can make me viral or some shit. Yeah, I've seen that. Yeah, they can do that for celebrities. If you're fucking Tom Hanks and you sign up and they want you to go viral so you keep using it, they can just put the button on you.
Starting point is 00:23:01 That's how to fuck that? Why do you do that though? They'll do it for you too. You just got to pay millions of dollars. You know, like, because you can pay to boost posts on that. Yo, and that shit, it's so bogus. It's like $5 for like $100 views, right? So you have to like...
Starting point is 00:23:16 Yeah, I've done it just to see what it did. So it's fake views or it's real views. No, it'll show you. It'll show your shit to more people. But realistically, unless your shit is like super dope and gonna go viral on its own, I don't think it's worth it. But I'm sure there's people who know how to do it the right way, you know? The label's probably doing it and shit, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Yeah, I don't... Nah, I don't like that shit. Yeah. Yo, but I've seen you like recently embracing like the UK casing though you know like like doing like mad songs song songs like uk niggas why yeah because now they fuck with me but the first nigga from uk i was fucking with was russ millions like he had it's hard yeah he he he fucked with my bro like my bills from where i'm from he fuck with my older bills from where i'm from so they put that link together he came out here we
Starting point is 00:24:01 did a couple tracks and shit but like other uk artists started hearing me too like i I fuck with like quink face. I fuck with Lowsky. I fuck with a couple name. I fuck with bunny. Yeah. What's it like when you hang out with them though? You understand what they're saying all the time or not?
Starting point is 00:24:17 Nah, not all the time. Like, Russ took funny. Like, he took fast and shit. So I had like, like, what you're saying? Yeah, I'll be forgetting though, because I'll watch an interview with a UK rapper and I can understand what they're saying because they slow it down
Starting point is 00:24:30 and start talking a little more normal. But it's like a lot of Americans too. You around some dudes from Atlanta? And like, like, Luke, and got it. Oh my God. You can't understand them. Them two together, rest of peace of keyed.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Bro, I could not understand fucking anything. Because they're brothers, so they have like a language. No, it's fast. Nobody else understands what the fuck they're saying. A lot of them dudes. But if they do an interview, you can understand them. But if they're just with their homies, they just slur, whisper, mumble, like, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Man, that shit. I don't be understanding that shit neither. Yeah, definitely. So how do you react when your shit started really taking off? Like how'd that kind of change your life? Shit. I ain't gonna lie. I just kept going.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Like, I ain't really try to pay that shit no mind because I know like that way. I'm still not where I want to be. So I just keep going. Try to get bigger and bigger. It must have felt crazy though because when you got out of jail, they're probably trying to have you have a job
Starting point is 00:25:27 and all this kind of shit. Yeah, I did have a job. Where are you doing? I was teaching kids how to play chess. Right, yeah, yeah. That's dope. Like kids from like three years old to 10 years old teaching them.
Starting point is 00:25:37 I'm gonna pay cats, test them kids, my ass small. Mm-hmm. Damn, that's dope, honestly. Like, like, just doing something like that's got to feel pretty fucking good compared to a lot of people coming out of jail and they're having to flip burgers or some shit. Yeah, yeah. Do something that actually makes a difference, you know?
Starting point is 00:25:54 How did you react, though, to, like, now, like, you know, and you, you know, was buzzing right now, now, bro, like, Brooklyn Drell is definitely on a decline. And, like, it kind of seemed, like, probably, like, You are probably like, probably like, like the only one who is really out here, you feel me, you know, like still relevant, right? Yeah. You agree with that?
Starting point is 00:26:12 The Brooklyn drill is on decline right now? No. I feel like the Bronx is just molding right now. It's a phase, like, there's a phase. I feel like Brooklyn is going to come back. It's always going to be there like Brooklyn. Yeah. It's always going to be.
Starting point is 00:26:29 No, but like here, right, so look, so like, like 2018 and 2019, right? Yeah. You had like pop. Like, Chef G, you know, like, Favio, right? Like, that was like the, it was going. No, funny shit. I don't understand how this shit, it went from Brooklyn, drill, bronze, this shit's all the same shit.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Oh, really? To me, yeah, like, we took about burrows. Mm-hmm. That are like five miles apart from each other. This is New York. Yeah. It's all the same shit. If anything, it's New York drill, UK drill, you could do that,
Starting point is 00:27:02 but now we're talking about burrows, like... Yeah, not true that. That shit is retarded. Because what the fuck is to stop a dude from Queens or whatever from making music that sounds exactly like it? But you will, like it is weird how in the Bronx that seems like there's a fan base that just wants to see dudes from that area who rap exactly alike and are talking about the exact same people. And it is kind of weird where it's like, why is the audience so concentrated on this one area? I don't think it has to be like that though in the long run. It don't. And it won't be in a long run.
Starting point is 00:27:34 That shit is not gonna go nowhere. Yeah. Now, like I feel like, for example, like, Brooklyn was always like, for example, right? Like, I remember being like 16 years old listening to like Jee Z Muller, right? Yeah. A 16 and 17 year old kid in a fucking Lambo, right? So like the Brooklyn niggas, like y'all are some fly niggas who get money, who get the bitches, right? And the Bronx niggas are like the low, like dirty niggins, right?
Starting point is 00:27:59 Right? Right, like, like, who just killed niggas, you feel me? Like, that's the big difference, right? Feel me? It's like y'all be on that, like, you know, like, in a smooth, low-fly shit, and they be on just straight up, like, waking up, mad when to kill the guy. I'm saying, like, for the most part, but like, it's flying niggas in the Bronx that get money.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Of course. But for the most part, I guess it's like that. It is. It's kind of like a Lord of the Flies type vibe up there where they're all just, like, doing battle with each other all the time, and it's just straight warfare, or at least to the fans, that's kind of how they think of it. Yeah. Not my facts, man, feel me?
Starting point is 00:28:31 Now listen, let's get into the fuckery, right? Snicker, you feel? You feel me? No, listen, man. Nah, right? So look, man, so why did you just own humble Js, man? Humble Js? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Nah, like, that's the baby bro, you were. We're just going through some shit right now. Yeah. You know, shit ain't about nine. Shit ain't really about nine, you were. It just got to the net, you know, sometimes our emotions get in the way again. Yeah. Feel me?
Starting point is 00:29:01 They blow out of propulsion. Of course, he's still family, though, right? That's the baby, bro, yeah. Yeah, man. He just need guidance, bro. Now, listen, how about BMG, man? Like, yeah. Who da?
Starting point is 00:29:11 I mean, like, he's like a lit, like, reaction channel, right? Well, we interviewed Kenzo Bond the other day, and then they were getting into it super hard afterwards, yeah. Yeah. Oh, huh? Yeah. I did his podcast where I go. He's cool.
Starting point is 00:29:22 How old is that guy? Like 30, right? BMG, like, what, like 35? 30? I don't know. He's a driller, though, bro. He's telling me about his cases. How he can't leave the state?
Starting point is 00:29:31 I don't know. Kenzel? I don't know, like 2019. He's young as fuck, yeah. Why is that man bothering that? He was just reacting to his music and hating on his rapping. He'd been doing that for me. He did that to me.
Starting point is 00:29:43 A word? Yeah. Yeah. But you got beef for all, sorry, it's not beef, right? But like, in all the reaction channels don't like you, because like, I think Crooklyn said like, and you're no good on his channel. Crooklyn? Yeah, Crooklyn said that.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Cooklin be calling me. Wow, really? Yeah. He said that? He commented that. I mean, like, I can't, I'm like, I like have the screenshots. Call him. No, he ain't say that.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Look. He ain't say that. Look. Look, look. Look at the day. He'd be calling me and shit. Look, look. I ain't never him say that.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Look, look, how about this? Look, how about this? It says, are you going to react to 26 A.R. Beautiful Glock? Glock. And he says, nah, he's no good on my channel. Come on. How look those that?
Starting point is 00:30:34 I'm not even sure. This is probably like a year ago. A word. Now, beautiful black is old though, so I don't know. I ain't never see that. You'd be calling me. Damn. Yeah, I gotta ask you about that.
Starting point is 00:30:45 That's what's funny to do, man, for me? Yeah, I got to ask you about that. I don't like that. I don't like that. Cronklin, listen though. So like he actually... Crooklyn, you're crazy, bro. See, I was jacking you're 60-19-old.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Damn. Wow. Yeah, but I wanted to ask this. is Swayze had a video the other day saying that you got shot in Astoria. Yeah. Like, man, they got the rules. On the 11th. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:31:09 What's today? This is like the 24th or something shit. Yeah, like 24th? It looks like I got shot. No. I was thinking that, I'm like, if you got shot, he's doing a good job hiding it. Yeah. Listen, this is why somebody threw a rock at my car.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Oh, damn. So he threw a rock and I ain't get shot you were. In Astoria? Yeah, it's might do a rock. Just randomly? Just randomly? Yeah, he's throwing rocks. What are throwing rocks at you?
Starting point is 00:31:31 That's like the most like weird shit to do. They're trying to stone me. They did it to Christ. They did it to Jesus. They did it to Jesus. Yeah, they did it to the crazy. Wow. But so how did it get turned into that though?
Starting point is 00:31:42 Did like your car get fucked up or some shit? Oh man. Nix is just lying, man. What are you doing in a story anyway? That's where I saw that. Nah, I was bull. I was bobbing, man. Before Bushwick, I was in a story.
Starting point is 00:31:57 That's a very, very nice part of Queens these days. It's like super nice. nice houses and shit, affluent-ass people living over there? Nah, I was vibing. I was out there vibed. Some showties and shit like that. I don't know if somebody just started throwing rocks on my car. Some dumb shit.
Starting point is 00:32:16 But so he reports on you getting shot, and then what is your reaction to that? Did you even bother to deny it or anything? I was doing pull-ups. We went live. I was doing pull-ups and shit. Jamba Jackson shit. Just chilling.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Yeah, like. Swayze got to watch out. You gotta check his sources. Yo, I mean, like, I wouldn't want to be saying that somebody got shot if they were gonna be able to, like, basically prove that they didn't get shot. But then again, maybe he is lying right now. There's a lot of people that wish, man, that wish they could get next to me, right? Damn. All right.
Starting point is 00:32:48 I want to know, like, who told him that though? There's people from my hood that's happy that, that got out, like, they're praying on it. See, and I heard something making that point the other day that it used to be like a rapper would get shot. and they would say, oh, all right, cool, like, this is gonna be what my whole next album is about. Now they get shot, and it's like they wanna hide it because they feel like they just got caught lacking and they don't wanna be seen as taking an L for the fans.
Starting point is 00:33:13 I ain't gonna lie. If a nigga do get shot, like, you're supposed to say, hey, I got shot. I don't know. I mean, I guess if I got shot, I would just, I'd be talking about it, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:33:28 They're talking about, oh, nah, you have to have the deal. You try to hold it down. What the fuck somebody's supposed to do? Say, hey, yeah, I just got a shot. That's not how I go. No, I understand. Yeah, because I, you know who made me realize that is when I was interviewing PGF Nuck? And I said something about like, oh, have you taken how much of losses?
Starting point is 00:33:49 You had a lot of friends who died since you're a kid? He's like, hell no. Like, his reaction was like, nah, we don't be losing nobody. Like, we too smart for that, like, type shit, which normally, like, I'm used to dudes who come up from the streets being like, yeah, I lost some. so many homies since I was young. I used to think like that too, until I started losing people.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Yeah. Yeah, that shit can happen to anybody. Ain't nobody in your touchable. I know that. So I had to get out of that monstay, for me. That shit can happen. That shit can happen. No, no, but like.
Starting point is 00:34:20 It's always another young nigga coming up that wanna earn some type of strides on it for me. Yeah. Can't tell them not. But like, I kind of wonder, right? So like the dudes who, like, Swayze, like, found his, like, fast as fuck. So the dudes who threw rocks at your car went back and told Swayze, yo, bro,
Starting point is 00:34:38 like, we just, like, shot them up. That's, that's what I feel like. That's great, man. That's what I feel like. Deep down inside, I really feel like that. Yo, do you think they followed you to Astoria or, like, just like, you know, you know, like, coincidence? Son, that shit was so random. They pulled us over.
Starting point is 00:34:56 The cops pulled us over. They found rocks. They found, like, literally found rocks. Wait, hold up. So they threw the rock like so hard it went through your window? Nigger. Yo, I'm like, what? I'm sorry to think Swayze got it right.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Yo, I ain't going to lie, man. Like, those boys were on a mission, man. Trying to like, throw you to death, bro. I'm trying to tell you, bro. Man, yo, you're right, put, so, and you was disappointed in C. Blue for locking in with like J.D. man, why? I was. Well, well, listen.
Starting point is 00:35:32 I see you say, like, how you lock it in, like, with somebody who got these weird, you know, you know, like, you know, these weird sexual thing going on. Oh, yeah. How you're locking her over the rape? Shit. Well, wait, is that, like, document it?
Starting point is 00:35:45 Yeah. Damn. You want to jail for that. Damn. Yo, bro. Yo, listen, though, because you're like the sex offender exposure, right? Right?
Starting point is 00:35:57 Right? Do we expose a spender? I don't know that. Exposed. We need to. Leaf else too, though, you feel me? Oh, yeah. Bro, right?
Starting point is 00:36:04 Like, that's true. Come on. Listen. Listen. Just remind me. Man, come on now. That's crazy, man. There's a lot of fishing to sea, man.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Nakes ain't got to be doing that. Yo, listen. And he's cleaning up the streets of Brooklyn, man. Shit, it's crazy, bro. I wish your beef with, like, them, though? Like, was it just like, yo, like, these guys are creeps, like, let's just let a known? Or, like, you actually have to find out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:32 I don't like creeps. Yeah. Hell yeah. Who likes a creep? Y'all like creeps? Hey, listen. I mean, I creep. But I don't want to be a creep.
Starting point is 00:36:41 That's what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Late night creep. Yeah, but like they real creeps, like touching on little girls that don't want to be touched. Yo, like the leave out, like, muckshy, I was crazy. Now that's why I was like, bro, how'd you even, like, find this shit? It's documented.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Anything somebody do? Yeah. That shit is documented. That's why paperwork, a lot of paperwork be coming out because that shit is legal documents. You can look it up. Yeah. When people be snitching, you can tell you, they're gonna find it's gonna come out sooner
Starting point is 00:37:14 and later. You can't hide that. Yo, listen, like, I'm so glad, like, I've never, like, hopped off the porch, right? Because I was saying people like, bro, I was some people, but find my paperwork, right? From niggas when they was 12, 13 years old. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to tell you, like. That's what I'm saying, even police don't like a snitch, like. They had set you up, then pitch you out there.
Starting point is 00:37:38 You know who 1090 Jacobs? Yeah, I seen his shit. Like, this shit is so crazy. It's so dumb. They're trying to compare him. Like, he, I guess, shot his aunt's window out with a BB gun when he was young as fuck, when he was like a small kid. And then when the cops came, he was like, nah, no, I seen these other two dudes.
Starting point is 00:37:56 They did it, yada, yada. They're trying to compare that to that video of Boster Richie's situation. Yeah. What the fuck are we talking about? Wait, wait, he shot his own window out? That's what I got from it, yeah, is that for some reason... A BB gun is playing this. Some bullshit happened and he shot a window out with a BB gun and then the cops come and he says,
Starting point is 00:38:15 nah, nah, it was these other dudes who I seen earlier, yada, yada. That's snitching now? Bro, mad times in my life I got the cops pulled me over for like some bullshit when I was younger and I was like, nah, no, I seen some dudes go that way though. They did it. It didn't work, but... That's not snitching. That's crazy to compare that.
Starting point is 00:38:31 That's insane. makes me think that everybody's just burnt out as fuck. Because they acted like having a five-minute conversation with the cops trying to get them to leave you alone is the same thing as giving them information. Nah, I don't know. That's not. I don't know. That's not such a-toucher. No.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Yo, like, here, bro. So you actually like, so you love being on like, like, C.C. show and I do live, right? Now, listen, bro. I personally feel like, right? Yeah. Stiggy's good. Is yours just way too big of like an artist to even like be on that bitch, like crash now fucking K Godd is my nigga, feel me?
Starting point is 00:39:07 Like, why do you like hop on those shits and like violate niggas like that? That should be fun, bro. I'd be trolling for, I don't be serious. Yeah. I'd be just playing around, bro. That should be fun. That's entertainment. Hair, though, but it got kind of serious though because I think like,
Starting point is 00:39:25 and Kay Goddess, like, says something about one of like your dead homies. Now like when, okay, so, Wayne, like, she said that. Now, I know that AR ain't, you know. I seen Kay Goddess after that. I seen her. Was it after before? I think it was after. And she got pleased, huh?
Starting point is 00:39:43 No, she got missing. Like, we was in, like, we was in Davey's shit. Yeah. He got, like, a store. But I see him, like, that's, I asked the bro. I'm like, that's her. I went up down, like, what's up? She's like, what's up?
Starting point is 00:39:57 Then I think the bro called me back. for like a second. Like, my mom got tracked through and then she disappeared. I ain't see her. Damn. Gangsta. Was she in, like, any danger?
Starting point is 00:40:08 Huh? Like, was she in any danger? Nah. I want to do nine and her. It's a girl. I want to do nine a half. She, listen, there's like a hundred niggas in the Bronx right now
Starting point is 00:40:19 trying to, like, find fucking murder beef, like, like, niggas don't care about those females, man. That's what I'm saying, because they, like,
Starting point is 00:40:28 I don't know. That's the number one thing that pisses me the fuck off When I'm gonna drill rapper shit is when they start saying shit about I would do this and that to your kid or your girl or whatever. That's all of limits. That's easy. That's easy to do. Tais of my kid or they, for me? Sibland. Because they not evolved. I mean, the reality is if you shoot somebody's girl or their kid or something, then motherfuckers are gonna be looking to you like a sicko for the rest of your fucking life.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Good luck getting locked up with that on your record, bro. I'm just assuming that's not gonna be too popular over there. Yeah, a job niggas don't like that. Hey, man, Tori Lane's, right? Well, yeah, but that's my thing about him. I know he's in there giving sermons convincing everybody that he has sent daily. That, you know, you know. You know, you know, you all here, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:13 He got every gang in there in the county gaslit for the next few years. He's telling them all kinds of theories. Nah, you're like, that's a fact, right? That's my theory. Yo, but speak you? Yeah, I think he signed for her? Huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Yeah, yeah. And when I heard that phone call of him telling her not the snitch or whatever, that's when I realized. I was like, oh yeah, this motherfucker definitely did. I was at the trial, bro. I can't believe I had any doubt at any point once I heard the phone call. I was like, I should have sucked my guns on this. But, okay, this is what I wanted to ask about is you had this whole saga with J.I. And how did that initially pop off?
Starting point is 00:41:47 Because where I saw it start was he just went on his story saying, Mad, suck my dick, fuck you, fuck your grandpa, all this crazy-ass shit. Like, how did it even get to that point? I hang a lot. His character. He, he, like, he's from, I don't know if he really from over there, but I guess he's from somewhere where we, like, I got beef with people when we was growing up. Yeah, he's from the outside growing up.
Starting point is 00:42:19 That's what he said. Yeah, I never seen them or heard him from over there. But that's what he said. So, like, how would happen? Like, damn, fucking my bracelet. Like, Asian don't have my bracelet, you know. She had my bracelet. I was trying to get my shit back, you know.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Yeah. Like, she had my shit for, like, a week of some shit. I was trying to get my shit back. She's not answering the shit. So, like, I fuck with, like, Dougie and him, you know, her. So they had, like, they was getting my shit from her from me. Like, my son, Bibi, he was getting my shit back. So he told me where to pull up to.
Starting point is 00:42:55 And I pulled up. When I pull up, he'd get my bracelet. Like, Jay I was in the back Like it was a crab But Jay I was in the back I went to the crab by myself Though you were He gave my brace of the shit
Starting point is 00:43:08 And then he's just like Jumping around this shit in the back But like indirectly Like he's making a movie Indirectly So So I'm asking BB I'm like
Starting point is 00:43:18 What he's doing that for me Baby like nah nah You know how your man's just telling him Nah nah guy Bro like He's like nah he's not doing that for you bro Am I you sure
Starting point is 00:43:28 Like yeah bro I'm sure I'm like, I, I just stepped up. Yeah. Yeah. Yo, but I don't even see, like, for example, like, you have a document in history, right? Yeah. I don't even see like, you and Jay, like. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:43:45 We're not on the same level as far as like. Yeah, yeah, you feel? Like beef wise, man. My favorite thing and all that and respect to him, but he got like a du rag, like, kind of, like hanging off the side of his head and he got a hat that's at a crazy-ass angle. And he, like, because you at one point said, like, oh, he was talking on the shit off mad drugs. And he goes, do I look like I'm on drugs?
Starting point is 00:44:07 And I'm kind of like, well, I'm not saying you are, but the hat like this with the- I was like, you kind of look like you're on drugs. For most part, I was trolling with that. I was churning, I was churning him serious. Yeah. So your grandma suck my dig and mother's saying, I don't take that shit to no while
Starting point is 00:44:23 because I know if we face-to-face, it won't be that type of energy. But you pulled up to the exact stoop where you thought he was at, right? You fucking were harassing the bodega guy or some shit. Or was his editor? What?
Starting point is 00:44:37 Oh, nah. That was the same. That was around the same. So I'm like, when I left, I actually went around a block. And just, like, caught him walking. Oh, okay. But he wasn't there.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Nah, he wasn't there. It was just his guys. Yeah. I hopped out. I'm like, what he was doing that for? They're like, nah, nah, nah, he's fucking, he old drugs, bro. That's why I got it from.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Like, he said, he'll be. drugs, bro. We don't pay them no mile. Like, all right, you sure? But so that situation never got, like, squashed or anything? Yeah, I took them on the phone before. Oh, okay. Yeah. That's what I'm saying? Like, he FaceTime me
Starting point is 00:45:13 after that shit. Well, that's good. That shit never was nothing to me for real. No? Nah, like, I was signing him, though, because he know. Yeah, like, yeah, yeah, you feel me? Yeah. But were you a little bit scared of yourself in that moment? Because when I was watching,
Starting point is 00:45:29 Watching the video of you sort of turning up on his video guy or whatever, I was thinking like, yeah, like I could see this being a situation where he might land his ass back in jail if things were to go a little different here. I ain't a lot. Yeah, hell yeah, I'd be scared, bro. I'd be scared because I know I could, I know I could go back to jail and be, like, good. For me, that's scary, like, because I can adapt in there. Like, I know how to move in there. I know I'm going to be good.
Starting point is 00:45:56 That shit is scary. I'm not scared of that shit but it's scary it's scary because like for me I don't know how to explain that shit but you know what I mean you know yeah I mean any of us you could get to that point
Starting point is 00:46:10 where you're mad enough or offended enough that everything is on the table that like you could do anything in that moment I mean I feel like most of us could get to the point where we would be at least tempted to right
Starting point is 00:46:24 I'm too pussy man I didn't have Seahos telling me like yo bro when you go on like don't come back Well, I'm scared for you. Because, like, you master this shit. Like, jail, like, you know how to move in here. Really? So you, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:38 For me? Like, you won't be scared. Like, it's people that scared to go to jail. It's people that be scared in jail. They getting extorted. They being bullied out. There's none of that with me. It's that chest background, though, right?
Starting point is 00:46:49 That too, yeah. For the most part. You know? How to think, you know? Yeah. Yeah. That shit is, like, life to me, for real, for real. One wrong move is over.
Starting point is 00:46:58 It's just. That's like in life. Make one mistake. Y'all old shaker trouble. It's over with. For sure. So where do you feel like you're at in terms of the music and your whole journey? Like, how are you feeling about where you're at and what you need to do to take it to the next level?
Starting point is 00:47:13 Right now, I'm saying, like, I just need to, like, right now I think I need to, like, playing more. Because before, I used to, like, it used to be, like, quantity with me, but now it was quality. I used to be mad consistent, put out music every week. Like, I started doing that first. When I first started rapping, like, I'm the one who started that, paying out music every single week, like videos. Like, how they be doing that? That's my shit for real.
Starting point is 00:47:42 That takes money though. Like, some niggas is broke, but you got money though. Yeah, nah, I was broke too. I was doing that shit. I was, the guys was paying 50, but music videos like, um, 250, 300. The guys give me 50, 50, 50, 50. He's making it work like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Music video for 300, that's a fire. But that's a deal. I gotta meet those camera, man. But it's just like running guns, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And shit like that. So, yeah. But if you're really cool,
Starting point is 00:48:10 then that shit could be impressive to the audience, you know? But if you look kind of weak, it's probably not going to look too good. And now, like, I don't be trying to do that shit because everybody's doing that shit. And they're paying out consistent bullshit. That shit is weak. I hate that shit.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Yeah, how do you feel like you need to, like, like separating yourself from all the, there's so much shit coming out in New York. What do you feel like is what you need to do to really, like, separate yourself from all these artists? Just be myself. Like, I don't even rap like that. Like, I rap different from that period.
Starting point is 00:48:41 So, right now I'm just focused on, like, making good quality music. Can I'm trying to say, be different. Because even when I go out of town, and lean in and all that, none of them don't like that New York trip shit. They hate that shit, too. A lot of people in L.A. would tell you the same thing. Yeah, like...
Starting point is 00:48:56 I kind of fuck with it, but definitely a lot of you. But they won't, most of them won't hop on those songs with them. Because they don't know what the, they're not saying nothing. I always say how weird it is that LA don't have a drill rapper. Like nobody raps like that. And you can point to certain people and say like, oh, this guy diss a million ops in a song. Yeah, but it don't sound like drill. Yeah, like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Like, they do too much yelling and shit like that. Yo, bro, why is that the first critique for, bro, like, we've heard that here, like a bunch of times, man. man, bro. Like, the Bronx niggas just be, you know, just be yelling, right? Feel me, man? Yeah, and it's like, it's people that's not even really crazy,
Starting point is 00:49:36 yelling, acting like they crazy. Like, who, bro? A lot. All of them? All of them? Nah, come on, man. Like, there's some savages there. Majority of them.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Damn. Cap rap. How savage can you be? Niggas is just coming outside. Oh, yeah. What can you do? I've been outside for years, but you only...
Starting point is 00:49:54 All, like, 12, like 15, 16, 17, 18. Yeah, when I was watching a 15-year-old talk about all this crazy drill shit. I'm kind of like, how many bodies am I really supposed to believe you got, bro? You were just in eighth grade. It's possible, you heard.
Starting point is 00:50:07 It's possible, yeah. But that's cat. You're not rapping by a lot, bro. If you're really doing a lot, you're not really rapping about a lot. And saying specific details. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Not in New York. Probably in Chicago. Yeah, definitely New York. You can't do that in New York, though. They on you. Facebook, whatever you post. They're on you.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Like a hip hop police be watching what I post on the gram. They know what I'm posting, all type of shit. There must be nerve-wracking, right? Like to know that these niggas is like just waiting on YouTube posts on you. They done being a show I had and I can't even have no shows on from like in Manhattan in the city, nothing. They done bad the show I had. They said I got a hit on me. And I know that shit was like made up.
Starting point is 00:50:55 That's what they said. Yeah, who would to kill you, man? Yeah, I don't know. That's crazy. You get your show canceled. They don't protect you. How would they know that, though? That's what I'm trying to say.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Right. What specific hit that you know that I got on me? That's about to happen. They said the show is going to get shot up. It's going to be a drive, bro. And my hat. And he's shooting in my head is like a terrorist act, first of me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:22 That shit. I'm not seeing a kid happen, but. You know? They'll say anything to just shut the show down. Because reality is they don't want anybody with a criminal record or anybody who's talking about gangs or anybody who's got ops. They don't want you doing nothing in the city.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Yeah, but they shut the whole show down. And it was a couple of people that I was supposed to perform there. And it's my fault. You were like, that shit crazy. That is where I'm. Yo, but did you like smash in Asian Dolman? No. Sure?
Starting point is 00:51:51 Now, listen, because on the Cecee show, right? Now, as some people was alluding to that, You feel what I? And that was left in the air, man. So, one, did you smash her before or after a ducky? Huh? Woo. Yeah, you're messy, gang.
Starting point is 00:52:10 I ain't smashed that. You sure, man? Bro, listen up, man. Like, she'd be choosing, I know she wanted to fuck you. Right? Come on now. She'd be choosing. Man.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Bro, listen, like, and y'all got so sick of her, brother, that y'all, like, created, like, a fucking go-for-me to buy her to her tail. in Ducks in Texas, man. You're some messy dicks, right? No, no, no, no. The whole city was involved in that? I knew Asian Dahl before all this New York shit for the record. Yeah, listen, I think she's one of probably like a top five, like, female rapper,
Starting point is 00:52:43 feel me? I like her rapper for sure. In terms of, like, females who can actually, like, write their own shit, yeah, come on, bro. Like, for example, like, we just find... She'd be saying shit, but top five is crazy. Here, right, so look at this. So, like, and we found out today.
Starting point is 00:52:59 that lot of what out today, but like, you know, probably like, you know, like this month, that Lado don't write her own shit. So, like, a bunch of these chicks, like, let's say, like, Lado, like, Cardi, like, they're kind of, like, disqualified, right? So, chicks who write their own shit is Asian dog, is Dreasy. You feel me? Like, we got that, you know, like. Taylor Swift.
Starting point is 00:53:15 You may come on that, right? She is a goat. She is a goat. She's a goat. Nah, man. No. She sold a million in a week. She's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:53:23 She's a goat. Bro, she crazy. Nah, but. Her fan base is just fucking ridiculous. And she writes her own shit, which is. It's pretty crazy because her lyrics are really, really good. Now, that's the fact. Country, too, right? I'm really getting old that I actually know about her.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Yeah. Yeah. That's fine. I mean, I'm sure she had co-writers a little bit, but she mostly writes your shit. Yeah, that's fine. I don't know about that, man, for me, right? That's, like, what she's, like, known for. That's what my girl told me is that she's, like, a big part of her image.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Yeah, right? Because she actually, like, had, like, the, I think I really early on, like, she dated, like, her album was, like, 21, 16, right? I think so, yeah. Yeah, right? No, but like, Asian Dahl said that she's the queen of Drell music, man. Like, what you take on that, bro? I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:04 I don't know. That's kind of like, I'm saying, like, who else do drill? I mean, there's a lot, right? There's ice spice, murder bee. You know, there's a, I mean, you know, like, you know, like, there's a feel? Ice Spice got the situation right now, though. Yeah, how are you going to take ice Spice for the number one spot? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:22 She got it right now. So, Ice Spice is the queen of the drummers right now, man. Well, we sure are obsessed with her. That's what it looks like. Br, I love her, man. She's like one of the main rappers I've been listening to lately. I just like that project. Yeah, it's fun.
Starting point is 00:54:39 It's got a good vibe. I'm driving somewhere for 20 minutes. I'm put that shit on. I'm trying to get that interview, bro. What you pay in love? What you pay a little? Ain't no way that shit. What you pay in a lot?
Starting point is 00:54:49 I've got to tell me this song. You've got to sing it. Yeah, I'll turn up. I'm rapping about my ass or whatever the fuck she was saying. Yeah, yeah. If I was bitches I would hate me too or whatever the fuck she says. Nah, but I don't know. I'm feeling it.
Starting point is 00:55:01 Oh, no, but that song with her and Pink Panther's, that was a hard song. Yo, listen, bro, I've been trying to see Pink Panther's ass for a while now, but, like, she never shows it. Really? She wears, like, these, like, real, like, these, like, real, like, baggy gowns, like, so she don't show. Who is that?
Starting point is 00:55:16 Where's he from? From, like, the UK, I think. Oh, okay. Yeah, one thing that I realized with all. that shit is that, fuck. Well, how did I just forget what I was gonna say? No, no, no, no. No, like, it's quitting the drill at Big Panthers, right?
Starting point is 00:55:32 No, but though, I do wanna actually this, right? Feel me? Like, this probably the, like, like, like, the last question I got for you, man. Why did you unfollow Busy Bank? Busy Banks? Yeah. I did?
Starting point is 00:55:46 Yeah, man. I don't know. Nah, I just... I used to to, I used to, I used to, I used to, you used to talk and shit, though, DMs and shit. And like y'all still cool though, right? Like, hold on a minute. I didn't talk to him in a minute.
Starting point is 00:55:57 I used to fuck with his shit, though. I DM'd him about an interview years ago, and then it never happened. Yeah. Yeah, no. Then you ask him, are everybody ever unfollowed in his whole life? No.
Starting point is 00:56:09 I ain't gonna lie, like, that shit be happening in some time, he's just unfollow people. Yeah. Oh, no, sorry. Now, here's a real question, right? And this might be like my last question. So, now, now, Naz Blinky dished you again,
Starting point is 00:56:26 and he shared something like a while back and then this was after the, you know, after, right? So now my whole thing is like, now if, if those guys put me in a death box, I'll probably not mention their name ever again, right? Now when you seen- I wanna need to, see, and he was like back to dishing you, man, Like, what's your overall response to that?
Starting point is 00:56:51 I stay away from that because, like, I'm the one being put in a job, so I just stay away from that. I don't know. I don't got nothing to do with that. And this whole death box your thing is describing, like, you don't want to be all shooting at something that's in the center of you because you're going to hit each other. Yeah, right? That's just what comes to mind from me. Yo, right? Okay, right?
Starting point is 00:57:14 So I did a video, right? And I just read out the, like, police report. Like they said they put them, you know, in like in a death box. Oh, that's what you get it from. And he hit me on Instagram saying, if I ever come count of New York, he's going to pay. Which I'm like, bro, go boom them niggas, right? I ain't do it, feel me? You got to keep a good ooter with you.
Starting point is 00:57:36 Oh, no, but though, but, hey, right? So, like, what's your response, though, to, like, to when his daddy said, like, and he's going to, like, stop making drill music, stop dissing the odds and start doing, like, more, like, Christian shit? I feel like his dad had good intentions for him. Like, I feel like he should listen to his dad. Yeah. For the most part, but I would have listened to my dad.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Yeah, man. If somebody booms me, don't, my parents better not be saying, oh, he's gonna stop interviewing gang members or whatever. Let me deal with that. All right. Br, not for you, bro. But that is something shit your parents would do that. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:58:10 For sure, your parents would do some shit like that, right? Yo, look, no, right? I know what's like, real crazy though? So like, we thought, yo, I, you know, and like he's about to transition now to like, you know, to some like Kirk Franklin shit, right? But then on his hospital bed, he started dissing the opposite. Like, what's going on here, bro, like, why are you dissing the niggins? Like, oh, your hospital bed after, you feel I mean?
Starting point is 00:58:30 So at that point I say, you know what, bro, you know, like, my hands is clean, feel me? Some people don't, like, they don't learn from their mistakes. I don't know, like, I learn from mistakes. I make sure. I learn from other people's mistakes. Yeah. Yo, can I call you up in, right? So look, right, when I come into like Brooklyn,
Starting point is 00:58:48 you feel me, man. Nas Blake, you got me terrible. Got me in fair. Can I call up 26 to walk through Brooklyn? He's sturdy, man. I'm not a touch the eye. You see? He's sturdy.
Starting point is 00:59:00 I'm good at him. It's good. Yeah, we're going to need to call that in. They ain't no big shots out there. Oh, man. When they corner me in the death box, someone to say, I know two six eight, man, it's fine. Just had them on my podcast.
Starting point is 00:59:11 I want no smoke, man. You feel? Man. We don't want no smoke. What do you want to tell the people to look out for in terms of new music or whatever coming soon? Man, I got a fucking, I probably draw my album this year with Dev Jam. A word. Oh, you're signed, right.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Yeah, yeah. Just look out for that soon. Probably spring. Probably like spring, summer. Got a freestyle coming out soon with, um, fine in the book, Charlie Slow. Oh, yeah. Shout out my boy, Charlie. That shit gonna go crazy.
Starting point is 00:59:44 Tell him, though, right? You're rapping, bro, tell him, bro, don't interrupt my shit, shit with like a thousand bombs, bro. Nah, that's fire, y'all. I fuck with talking for that. I fuck with that shit. He fucked up Drake freestyle, bro, because he kept the... I'm like, niggie, bro.
Starting point is 00:59:58 I'm like this nigga rap, bro. Nah, that shit gets people... Yeah, bro. That shit gets certain people with it. Like, I'd be liking that shit. Yeah, but when they're doing it and the song doesn't need it, and it's just like too much. Yeah, if the song don't need it, it's different, but...
Starting point is 01:00:10 If you come on crazy, you need that. That's a tradition, man. Like, Funkmaster Flex, you need that. that fucking energy of like dropping the bomb, screaming over the song. Like when you listen to old mixtape songs from back in the day, it can be kind of disoriented because like you're just not used to hearing
Starting point is 01:00:25 a motherfucker yell over the song like that anymore. But it does, it amps the shit up. Yeah, yeah. Perfect. For sure, for sure. All right. Appreciate you coming on, man. Everybody, go turn my man up on streaming services and much more. Yeah, bro. No, that. Appreciate you, man.
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