No Jumper - 2euceface on East LA Upbringing, His Time in Jail, Signing to OTR & More

Episode Date: December 1, 2025

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No jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. And you know we had to do it. We got an official interview coming in with LA's very own deuce face. How you feeling, man? Good. Thank you. Hell yeah.

Wow, man. Hyped to have you in here. I'm not going to lie. Like, I was watching the South Sider Report Card and parway through when they were going over you. I was just like, damn. Like he mentioned, he's like, I don't think this dude's done an interview yet. And I just immediately hit up flip.

I'm like, man, we've got to get that in. What the fuck we're waiting for? Yeah, hell yeah. Yeah. I had done no interviews. It's mine. like my second one. Right, because I seen you did do a negro the other day.

Yeah, yeah, I did that one. Man, I kind of rolled my arthur a little bit. Yeah, I'm starting to sound authentic. Damn, all right. But, okay, so was that intentional? I mean, I know you're kind of, like, new to being on the scene as a rapper and everything, but, like, was it intentional that you wanted to wait to do an interview until you had a bit of a motion going on?

Yeah, low-key. Like, y'all wasn't trying to do, like, too many interviews all at once, you know? I wanted to, like, let me get more numbers and, like, do better my music and shit, you know? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but, yeah, this is my first one, you know? No doubt. So you're from Boyle Heights? Yeah, I'm from Boyle Heights, East L.

Okay. So what was it like growing up out there? What was your childhood like? Oh, shit. That shit like everybody else, you know, like just treacherous ghetto shit, like just regular shit, you know? Uh-huh. Yeah. So you have both parents around, or?

No, I just had my mom. I had my mom and my brother. I live with my mom and my brother. Okay. Yeah. So you never met your dad or you just didn't have a relationship with him? No, my dad died when I was like two. Oh, okay.

Yeah, I never met him. Damn. Okay, so you're the oldest kid in the house, or? No, I got an older brother. Okay. Yeah. So was he, did he have more of a relationship with your dad? Yeah, he did.

He met my dad before me. Okay. Yeah. Damn. I didn't get to meet him at all. Damn, that's crazy. So what was your, what was your mom like? Like, what kind of job she had in?

She worked at like a dry cleaners and shit. She worked at dry cleaners and she was, that's all she did pretty much for a long time. Nice. So would you say that there was like a time period where you kind of realized that you were growing up in a pretty crazy place and that there was a lot of wild shit going on outside? Yeah, like as a kid there was just like, just a gang of bad shit. You know, I grew up in the projects like in East LA and that shit was just, you know, it gets bad. And that's pretty much where shit started, you know?

Do you have any memory, though, of those, like, being exposed to some shit that a little kid shouldn't be exposed to when you were real young? I mean, like, yeah, I can't really, like, say too much, but, like, yeah, it was more, like, yeah, just, like, shit that, like, you know, just, like, shootings and shit that, like, as a little kid you're seeing,

you're, like, hearing about this shit, you know? Mm-hmm. And then just... Do you remember how your mom used to talk to you about that kind of thing in terms of, like, explaining to you the fact that dangerous shit was happening outside um nah she didn't really tell me like i don't really have no conversation like that um really with my mom it's just kind of how it is it's just like kind of accepted the wild shit happens from time of time yeah yeah pretty much definitely um

okay so would you say that your parents were like real focused on you were they strict like did you have like a, your parents, did they really care about you getting a good upbringing and a good education or anything like that? Yeah, hell yeah. My mom used to, um, she used to like really like get up on me and like, like, now I want me to like game bang and like she would like tell me all type of stuff, you know, she would get up on me pretty much. Like she wouldn't want me like, she would like tell me like I, I didn't raise you like that. And, but I still went down the wrong path. For sure. Would you say that you were like attracted to the streets from, from day one? Or was there like a time period where you were a good kid doing good in school and everything or you just

kind of always drawn to being outside getting into some shit yeah since i was young i used to just be in the streets i wouldn't really be at home and stuff you know i would just i'll be with the hummys like ever since i was a kid i've been like outside you know yeah at what age would you say you jumped off the porch like 10 like 10 11 and you were just outside hanging out like every day Like what kind of shit were you getting to at that time? She just posted with the hummies. I just, that's when I had met the hummies and shit, but I used to live in, like, Highland Park with my grandma.

And I used to just be outside with my cousins, you know, since a young age. Probably like seven years old. I was already outside, but, like, you know, I didn't really meet the hummies. And so I was like 11, 12, started really jumping off the porch, you know? Would you say that they were trying to kind of, just you being so young, being, you know, 10, 11, 12? Would you say that they were like trying to keep you away from certain shit? Or did they fully just like kind of expose you to everything right away?

What do you mean like the homies or my people? Yeah, your homies like the friends or the older guys that you're hanging out around. Like were they kind of cautious about you knowing about everything? Or were they just like, you know, he's outside now. Everything's up for grabs. Yeah, basically they were just like, oh, you don't care like, we can't tell you nothing type of shit, you know? They just wanted me to kick it. Definitely.

So what kind of music were you into at that time? What was the sound of your childhood? Like growing up, I used to listen to, like, Tupac. I listened to Tupac and, like, M&M. I listen to M&M a lot. And, like, all the old-school rappers, Biggie. And then I started listening to, like, Draco and shit. Like, when he started coming out, Y, G, mostly, like, the game game music.

Hell, yeah. Did it ever stand out to you that you most of listen to black artists? Or, like, was there a time period where you got more interest in Hispanic artists, Mexican artists? Yeah, like, once I started kicking it with the hummies, I started, like, they put me on to, like, Conejo.

I started listening to Conejo. That's pretty much, like, the only Hispanic artists I'll listen to like that. Really? So, like, the more street rap type stuff doesn't really appeal to you that much? What do you mean, like, um... Like, I mean, you know...

Like, Hispanic rappers? Like, yeah, like, Mexican gangster, L.A. rappers, like, that's just not really your bag? Nah, I wouldn't really listen to that shit. That shit would be, like, you know, weak to me. But really? You think you're the best one? Like, everything's been kind of weak up until now,

and now you're coming out and you're making it look good? Now, I'm not going to lie, like, there's other Mexican rappers, like, you know, Swade, I gotta give it to, like, you know, like him, like, you know, people like that. Like, like, Bravo the Bag Chaser, like, I listen to, like, Austin the Pac-Man. Yeah. I'll listen to, like, them.

But, like, I don't know, but I'm talking about, like, old school, like, you know, like, new school rappers, yeah, I listen to, like, a gang of, yeah, Mexican. No, yeah, that makes sense. I mean, I was doing an interview with the 6-9 on the other day, and he basically said, he said, if you ain't black, you can't rap. And what he meant by that was basically, like,

nobody's trying to hear you rap, unless you're black. And when you really think about it, it's like there's really only been like a handful of really popping white rappers over the years. And when you really think about Hispanic rappers in general, all the way from, you know, Puerto Rican rappers in New York to Mexican rappers in L.A. and Texas, etc., it is like, it has been an uphill battle, you know?

It's like still to this day, it's kind of hard to think of like real superstar Hispanic rappers from America. And yeah, there are a bunch now, but it does kind of seem like there's like a ceiling almost. Yeah, it is. Like there's not like a mainstream, like super hot, like top top billboard, like number one artist like that's like Mexican. I don't think so. Like I think like probably like D-Baby, D-Bee-Bee goes hard.

Like I think like he's like pretty up there. I feel like D-Baby and Mexican OT down in Texas, and then out here, you know, we got O.GZ going crazy, you know, somebody like, well, really short on Mafia in general, you know, pesos has been going pretty crazy lately. Yeah. But did that ever, like, kind of occur to you, like, when you were young rapping, just like that this was sort of, I don't know, less of a mainstream thing? Yeah, I would think, like, I used to think about, like, I can't make it really as a Mexican, like, all the way up there, like, unless I'm, like, really. good like you know i would just be thinking like i got to get myself like better at this i got to perfect my craft every day like to get up there like because i really don't see nobody like i'm really the only one making it out of my city like out of boyle heights i don't really see nobody else right yeah pretty much

yeah i mean if a lot of times like once one person comes up out of an area it's easy for other people to kind of emerge from that same place you know but like when when you haven't seen anybody from your section really be able to achieve success. It's hard for an up-and-coming kid to imagine it. Yeah. That's really what I used to think about like then. There's really nobody coming out in my section, so I really got to go harder. Definitely. So, okay, but that's later on once you started like having some success as a rapper. Like what kind of kid would you say you were during high school? How far into high school did you make it? Probably like, like nine grade. I went to like two semesters at like ninth grade and then I started going to jail and I went to the halls.

Okay. So that was when you first started getting in trouble, or you're getting in trouble off the elementary school and shit as well? I started going to the halls until like 15 years old. Yeah, until like I started like high school. Okay. So at 15 you get arrested for what? I got arrested for like a robbery. Okay. Yeah. What kind of robbery? What happened? Like a gun. I can't really talk too much about that, but like, you know, I'm not really trying to

talk about like that, but like I just, I started going to the hall. I was in Shia, you know. Okay. It was just downhill from there. I just kept on going back. Yeah? I mean, that's like a nightmare scenario for a lot of people going to jail. Like, for you, was it not that bad?

Was it kind of exciting? It was low-key exciting, yeah, because I had, like, all my homies were telling me about that growing up. Like, like, I got put on with the hummies and shit. And then they just started telling me about, like, you know what's going to happen further down the line? like, you know, if you continue down this path, so I already got laced up with going to jail and shit. So once I went up in there, like, it was just cool, you know? I wasn't really tripping.

I already, like, got laced up. I wasn't really, like, I wasn't really scared of it. But you probably end up getting exposed to so many more people than who you would otherwise be associated with. Because, like, when you're on the streets, you're mostly around people from your neighborhood. Then you get locked up. with everybody like all everywhere but not just everybody but like the bad kids the kids just like

you that's how i used to think about it like i ain't really tripping because i'm gonna gang of kids just like me don't give a fuck right you feel me but was it mostly like uh people were getting along in there or is it like you know were there were there fades to be dealt with yeah hell yeah everybody squabbing in the halls like it's going up everybody got fades everybody gang bang so it's just going up every other day so you just walk in and it ain't nothing personal But it's like I'm from here. Oh, you're from there. You got to squabble with him right there.

And you got to get that out the way. It's more like you walk up in there, yeah. Like, it's your first day. And like you're sitting at the table and you just like, you're meeting everybody. You're banging on everybody and shit. And it's like your enemy bite might hear you banging or some shit. You might like, all of a sudden.

Or, you know, you just get off on it right there. Like, it's just more like, all right, boom, like here and now. How long you feel like it took before you got kind of settled in and where you, you know, felt comfortable? My first time in the halls, I had a homie right there, and like, he was already fighting some time. And I would just low-key praying a guy, like, please put me with the homie. And I ended up going with the homie, same unit and everything. Like, I got right to, like, you know, be with him.

Like, the next morning I came out, and I'm right there hugging the homie. So we was cool. Like, we were just doing it up, you know? Like, it's my homie from the street, the homicino. Right. Definitely. So, yeah, it's cool. I was chilling.

Yeah. How long were you in there? Like my first time, probably like three months. Okay. Yeah. And then you ended up going back a couple more times? I got released and then I got released on house arrest and I just, I went on the run. I kept on going on the run after that.

I went on the run and I just got busted for like blowers and shit, just bullshit, you know. Damn. So you were just like totally out of control, like the idea of just being on house arrest and just sitting in the crib. It was just like impossible? No, I had did my house arrest, but like I went to court and they tried to send me the placement. They were trying to send me to placement. They told me I'll come back at 1.30. So I was like, that, and I just left, went to the hood, and I just went on the run.

What were they, like, looking for you hard? Well, like, I ended up going home, and then on my birthday, I turned 17. No, I think I turned 16. Yeah, I turned 16. And they fused me. They went to my pad like at 10 o'clock at night and raided my house. Oh, shit. So, yeah, that's how I got busting and shit.

I got busted with a blur and shit. Damn. So then they locked you up again for how long? Like a couple of months. I went to camp. Uh-huh. I did a camp program. Okay.

Oh, so you went into the halls a bunch of times more and you're like high school years and then like once you f*** up enough they start sending you to like a camp thing? Like how does that work exactly? Like not really like more into like my high school. Like it was my high school like it was right after. Oh, okay.

Right after I got busted I ended up to camp. I went to camp and then they just they send you like if you f***ing up they're gonna send you to camp. Right. Like the more you f***ing up the worst it gets for you. Definitely. And was rapping even a thought at this? point or not I used to rap yeah I used to rap in the halls that's where I started writing my

shit oh I started writing my shit in the halls and I got out and that's where really like I started doing it more definitely like would you say that during this time period like like did you have some f*** up ideas about being locked up because I've definitely heard a lot of people say over the years that like when they were kids that they kind of like expected to go to prison at some point to go to jail that it was just kind of almost like taught to them that that was just like part of growing up in this way of life. Yeah, hell yeah.

I was already accustomed to that shit. I was already like looking forward to that shit type. I was going, I was already looking forward to going to prison, you know? Really? So when you first got locked up, you weren't looking at it like a bad thing. This is just kind of.

I was just like, oh, this is like, I got homies that wish they could be in my shoes. Like the homies just tell me that like you got that wish they could be in your shoes. Homies is doing life. Like you feel me that wish they could be your age and go to the halls. Right.

just like, damn, it's a blessing. Yeah. That's kind of crazy. I mean, do you look at that now a little differently? Like, damn, like, I feel like that is such a sort of pessimistic worldview that, like, a lot of people is very hard to even imagine that. It's not like how anybody should think or, you know, that's not how a normal kid should live or, like, think. But that's just how I was taught. Like, you know, I would just raise different.

But I will say that the differences, though, too, is that it's almost worth. First, like when you see a video of somebody who gets arrested for doing some crazy crime and they just start crying their eyes out and ratting on themselves and all this shit. And it's like, damn, this is a person who really didn't expect to ever get caught. Like, if you're rolling around, you know, shooting at people or shooting people successfully or whatever, like, you should not be that surprised when you get caught up. You should probably have a little bit of a plan for what this is going to be like in your head. But a lot of people roll around just committing crazy crimes for years and years and years.

and acting like they can never get caught. And then when they do, it's just pure shock and surprise. They didn't plan for it at all. I trip out on that type of shit. Yeah. That shit's crazy. Definitely. So, okay, when you, at what point did you end up getting out of this camp situation?

That was your last, like, longest time period locked up? Not my longest, but like up to then, yeah. Up to then, it was my longest time being locked up. Okay. I got, I ended up getting released and I went back home. and I ended up I forgot what happened I think I went on the run

I went on the run again or some shit like that no they tried to send me to placement they tried to send me to placement and I wasn't trying to go and what's placement they put you in like a home it's like a big ass facility

it was Boys Republic oh okay and they tried to send me to boys Republic I wasn't even there for like 10 minutes I left AWOL and I tried to like you know I escaped

right went back home and I was just on the run and I just kept on going back they kept on doing the same shit trying to like send me the placement until they sent me to the county and then I just um

Yeah, I started going to the county from there. Oh, okay. So, but then at that point, at least, like, you do your jail time and you're done with it. Like, they don't have to hunt you down over and over? Yeah, I'm already off juvenile probation and shit. Well, like, I was still on juvenile probation. I ended up getting caught. They sent me to the county, and they sent me back to the halls.

They sent me back to the halls, and then I got out. I got out, and then the same shit happened. It had me, like, twice because I was still on juvenile probation. Yeah. And then, yeah. So how old are you now and how long have you been free? This is, like, I'm already, like, 18. Oh, wait. You're 18 right now?

Oh, no, no, right now? You're talking about right now? Yeah, right now. I'm 22. Okay, so you're 22. How long? When was the last time you were locked up? The last time I was locked up, shit recently. To be honest, I just got locked up up probably like a couple weeks ago. What was that for? Like a probation violation, like a parole violation. Okay.

Yeah. But do you feel like you're kind of like at risk for getting locked up again, or is it like a situation where if you mostly keep your nose clean, you're good? Yeah, I'm on parole. I'm good. I'm pretty, you know, I'm cleaning shit. But you got to watch, like, how you're, you got to watch like, how you you're moving around, like if you get pulled over or whatever, it could be bad. As long as I'm not doing no dumb shit, I'm not, you know. Right.

I'm doing that. Definitely. So, okay, like this time around, though, like when you got out or like, when did you actually start to think you were going to take the rap shit more seriously? To be honest, this time I got out. I got out of prison. I got out of prison recently, like in January. And then I met the homie.

I met the homie on Grifel and then I ended up meeting Flip and Solis, you know. Okay. I ended up going there from there. So Grifo is the one you met first. Like, how did you meet him and how did he, was he the one who told you like, yo, you should make a song or did you already have shit recorded? Well, I met him through the homie chin that was in prison with him. And then the homie took me to the studio, you know?

And then that's how I met him. And then, yeah, pretty much he told me to get up in the booth type shit. Like, you know, he's like, he knew that the homie could rap and the homie told him that I could rap. So that's what told me to get up in the booth, you know, and I just spit some shit. Yeah. Today, I'm listening to your music and I hear you. you mentioned that Griefo puts you on. And so I go click on one of his videos to watch his shit.

And it's like the beginning is like a skit where like he's like his manager or whatever is like calling him and telling him like, bro, you're going to be late for your your no jumper interview. And I'm like, what the fuck? And I had to go search for it because I'm like, I didn't interview him. And I think, I think that they were, you know, putting it into the air. So yeah, because I mean, now I want to interview him. Now I'm like, oh, shit, I want to make that come true.

That would be cool. Yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah. Make that happen. But wait, so why were you around him that he even, like, recognized your talent? What do you mean, like, how I came around him? Yeah, like, how did he first even hear your shit?

He didn't, and he just told me to get in the booth. Oh, okay. He told you to make a song, right, right, right. Yeah, he just told me hop in the booth, and then he heard me, like, spit some shit, and he was like, damn, like, you know, I guess he was fucking my shit. Hell yeah. And, like, here I am, everybody, you know, was fucking. No, that's what's up.

Like, did Flip get in tune through him or did Flip? Yeah, that same day. That same day, I met Flip. The same day I met RIF, I met R.A. The same day I met R.A.R.A. I met R.A. and so what was your impression of Flip when you met him, like, in terms of... I mean, shit. You just started making music with you right away?

Like, I was just tripping out, you know? Like, I already was listening to a shit since I was a little kid, so I was just like, damn, you know? I was more, like, I couldn't even believe it. Damn. And then I ended up being, like, you know, he ended up. Because I saw, I saw, I seen some people trying to make it into, like, an O-T-R versus this DJ Flip thing, like, as if those are like the two people that you could sign with as a Mexican rapper in particular coming up out of LA. But you're saying that you like basically just

got locked in with both of them all at the same time. So it's not like an either or type situation. Like they with each other and everything. Yeah. Yeah. Basically. Yeah. We got like, you know, partners and partnership. For sure. What was OTR talking about? Like, like, how did they convince you that you should want to work with them. I mean, like, he just asked me, the homie asked me, like, if I was trying to, like, get signed this shit, the homie griffel. And I was like, fuck it.

I was like, I'm down, you know, this is my dream. I've been dreaming of rappers since I was a little kid. Oh, for sure. Hell yeah. Yeah, but, like, what do you think that a label is bringing to the table that you need in terms of, like, making your shit bigger? I mean, like, shit, like, just putting me out there,

you know, the exposure. I wouldn't have the exposure myself. you know that I would with a label type of shit. Right. Yeah, definitely. But so what's your relationship with Flip like at this point? Like, are you guys just, like, in the studio a lot together? Yeah, hell yeah.

That's my brother right there. That's my boy. He, like, he's been doing everything for me, you know? He's been helping me a lot with this, like, with all this rapping shit. You know, I'm always in the studio with him working and shit. He's filming all my videos. You know, that's my boy right there. Is that the closest you ever been to a white person?

type of shit. The homie not white, the homie, the homie that's on. You don't look at him like a white person anymore. The homie the homie up thing. Nah, yeah, because I came in and you're with Flip and you with Blanco. Yeah, for sure. So we're all looking white as well. I mean, I'm saying. Like, you know, it's like two white boys who clearly are, you know, moving a certain way. Yeah, that's my name too. That's my name, like Blanco, that's what, you know. Oh, they call you that too? That's like, is that really your hood name?

Uh, I mean, type shit. No, not really, but you know, that's just what the homie's coming. Okay. Yeah. Where doce face come from? Just because I got the deuce on the side of my face, you know, I got, I'm making my Instagram name, and then I just went with it, like, you know, as a rap name. Why did you get the deuce on the side of your face? Is that, like, the street you live on or some shit? Yeah, some shit like that. Yeah, it's like the B, you know?

Oh, okay. It's like the second letter out with alphabet. Oh, okay. So you guys rep the two as well as the B? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. That makes sense. For sure.

So, yeah, like, did you, all right, so I don't want to get too. or anything but when I'm watching your videos in one of them there's a news clip talking about a burglary ring and I assume that the assumption of what I'm getting from this is that you at one point got locked up for some burglar shit I mean I know you mentioned it earlier but that sounded like

that was more of like a little kid type thing versus like as you got older like was that one of the things that you got locked up for at a certain point I mean like I just got out of prison for for residential burglary. Like, I'm not going to say, like, you know, I did anything, you know, allegedly or anything, but I just got released from prison for that.

And, you know, I just, yeah, pretty much. Right, because, like, you know, when I'm listening to the music, I'm kind of like, damn, like, he sounds like he might have been mud walking through some of my neighbor's houses at some point. Like, you know, it sounded like, you know, up in the hills. Like, I'm like, damn, maybe I've been to some of these cribs that he might have paid a visit to.

Like Santa Claus. No, no, that shit. No, no, but I mean, hey, you were saying you were listening to Drago the ruler, you know? I'm just saying like it could. Oh, actually, no, that might not have been an influence for you to do it, but that might have made you want to rap about it and not do it. Yeah, type of shit. Yeah, pretty much. Honestly, like, whether you ever did do that or didn't do that, I mean, that seems like probably one of the best crimes to avoid.

Like, that just seems like It's hell of easy to get caught You're gonna get crazy time for it I don't know, maybe I'm naive But Yeah, shit, I don't know Yeah, because that song is called Four, five, nines and two 11s

Yeah What's that mean? Is that like the police code or something? Yeah Ah, okay Yeah Got it Um But did

Did Flip ever have a talk with you at some point? Like, hey bro, if we were gonna really do business like this, you got to start keeping your nose clean a little bit. You know, you can't be getting into all the same shit. Nah, hell no, I don't I don't, I don't f*** around at all. Like, you know, I told myself I wasn't going to, you know,

ground or do any like, you know, I wasn't going to, like, do any bad shit, you know, at all. I told God I wasn't going to fuck up if I could do with this music shit. Like, it wasn't, like, but they do, the homies do talk to me and, like, you know, tell me to, like, you know, stay clean and not fuck up, you know? I'm going to go to the hood and, you know, stay about a bullshit.

I mean, what about going to the hood, though? Is that, like, you can go? You just try to be in and out? Or is it, like, you just try to be kind of low-key? Or you try to just move the right way? I'm just low-key, you know? Like, I'm just not even trying to do, you know, no bullshit. I'm just trying to do this music and, yeah, just make it off this music.

Yeah, you do. But do you feel like if you go back that there's, like, a good chance the cops are going to be kind of targeting you and shit like that? Yeah, hell yeah, I'm pretty sure. No, yeah, it makes sense. but when you go back though like I don't know what what's the vibe like like is everybody like real proud of you is that a common theme they're all excited about the fact that you're having all this motion oh yeah yeah the homies be like supporting the fucking me yeah yeah they'd be loving that shit hell yeah yeah they like hell yeah they'd be they'd be encouraging me and shit definitely

yeah so you saying one of the songs that your bro told you you should have been rapping was that about grief or is that about somebody else That's like the homies, the homies used to tell me, like, oh, you should, like, the homies been telling me to rap. Like, they've been telling me since I was just, like, like, yeah, like, since I was in the halls, like, I used to spit some shit to the homies and they'll, like, record me, and they'll be like, hey, fool, you should be, like, you should have been rapping, like. So I just put in my song.

No, definitely. Um, all right, we had a couple different, like, incidents where different Hispanic rappers that have been coming up out of L.A. or Southern California have kind of, like, ended up in weird situations. because either them or their homies have said like anti-black shit. And then, and it's kind of been like almost sort of surprising to see how much that seems like it kind of affects the motion that somebody has in their career or whatever. Is that something that, like, would you have thought of that or is that like something that you, was that something that you were used to hearing as a kid? Or is that like kind of foreign to you?

What do you mean? Like the, like, then, like, what do you mean? Well, okay, so Drex had the situation where he was on live and you hear one of his homies said the N-word in the background. Oh, yeah, no, I want to be saying that in my music. Like, I don't say that anywhere in my music at all. Like, yeah, I don't, I try to not to, like, I don't have that in my vocabulary, you know? Really? You just, like, grew up not saying it or anything? Or did you have to kind of pull back and stop at a certain point?

Yeah, basically. Really? What's your mentality on that? You just don't think it's cool, or you just... I'm just like, you know, I'm not that raised, you know, I'm not going to be saying it. Oh, okay, because are we talking about the hard art right now? Because I feel like the... Nah, like, I'm just not going to say it. Like, you know what I'm doing it either way?

Yeah, like, I'm not trying to do all that. Nah, like, yeah, basically I'm not doing all that. Definitely. I mean, from your perspective, like, does it feel like it's a low, like, in terms of tension between Hispanic people and white people in L.A., does it feel like it's not a lot of animosity at this point? Because I do hear from people sometimes about, like,

yo, that she used to be way worse. And now it's not really that crazy. I mean, yeah, it probably was way worse back then Yeah, probably not that crazy no one Yeah, my shit Yeah, everybody's different I mean, shit, that's definitely for the best, you know? Yeah, some people be triven and shit

Some people, you know, don't get a shit Yeah, it's all bad, that's, that's, that's, that's, It's bad enough that you got all these gangs That have issues with each other, but in terms of like Entire races kind of being pitted against each other You know, that shit seems like the worst case scenario Yeah, that shit's fucked up definitely so how many times you had your house rated um two no three really with these situations

like that's how they arrested you like they raided the house because you were on the run and that's how they found you yeah well twice yeah twice yeah i've been my husband rated yeah just because they're looking for me and shit and they kind of my pad and do the most you know really damn so they just rip the whole shit up or like they go through everything or they're just looking for a person so they don't go through everything yeah they're just looking for a person so they don't go Yeah, they were just looking for me to be. Oh, the first time they did flip the fuck out of my house. Yeah.

The first time they flipped my room and shit. And then, yeah, the second time now, they just went up in there. Oh, no, I think they did. Yeah, they did flip the room too. Yeah, they just turned shit up. Yeah, that's crazy. It's because I'll be like, you know, my family tells me, like, when I'm in jail and shit, I'm already in jail.

I'm not knowing what happened, you know, until I get out and I talk to him and shit. You tell me what happened? 100%. You just smoke weed or you got any other, drugs or alcohol that you're a fan of smoking weed I'm drinking and shit really you don't even drink at all no that's impressive um do you uh like what's your attitude on girls at this point you got like a down girl or you just playing the field i mean shit yeah like i got a down one you know okay yeah that ever get tough with all the rap clout coming in i mean yeah hell yeah like you know

you know how to be like everybody just along for the rap, you know, along for the future type of shit, you know? Yeah. You know, I'm going to blow up and I'm going to go up off this shit. Yeah. The girls are just, like, sensing that and they just come around a little too aggressively for you? Yeah, pretty much. But you got your head screwed on straight enough that you know that you want to hold it down with the chick that you were before?

Yeah, for sure. I'm not trying to be with nobody that's like that wasn't right there when I was up, you know, down back. Definitely. Yeah. Your girl ever beat the shit out of you? Nah. No. I was just interviewing somebody in there

and they were just like, yeah, my girl would be beat my ass I'm like, oh, fuck you just admit it to that. No, hell no. Nah, but I'm not going to lie. Like, I know a couple of lit Hispanic rappers that definitely do be getting the shit beat out of them by their girl. They got to deal with their chick while in the fuck out from time to time. Nah, that's crazy.

Damn, I couldn't ever call that shit. You couldn't? That's not worth it? Yeah, nah, hell no. Yeah, I'm gone. Nah, I feel that. I feel that. All right, so in terms of like where you're at in the music game right now, like how are you feeling about it?

Are you feeling like you want to work on an album or you feel like you're just kind of going single by single? Yeah, now I'm working on an album. It's called Voice of the East. Yeah, Voice of the East. That's just hard. Okay. That's coming out soon. Voice of the East.

That's how you kind of feel right now? Like you're really speaking for your whole section? Yeah, hell yeah. To be honest, ain't nobody out at the East side really doing it up, like, you know, really got numbers like I'm doing here. like I don't see nobody really like, you know, making noise like me. Definitely. A lot of Boyle Heights type of shit, you know? No, for sure.

Yeah, I mean, is there any artists in particular that you'd like to work with? Oh, yeah, there's a lot. Oh, yeah. I want to work with, like, you know. Mazzi, Mazzi songs are. This is like my favorite rapper, him, like Dilla Dirk. Yeah. Well, shit, everybody, you know.

Yeah. I don't like to work with everybody. Damn, that's dope. You got to just move around and try to get in the same rooms as these people. people and stuff trying to make it happen yeah yeah for sure um all right so anybody you want to thank anything uh else we need to know i mean shit it's good shout out o'tr shout out fucking stream shout out 808 cartel you know hell yeah shout out the homies and shit not fact shut out deuce face doce face coming through taking over the city right now yeah they might not have seen

it yet but it's coming like a title wave yeah yeah thank you for having me yeah i appreciate it Deuce Face, no John Burke, coolest podcasts, like, comment, subscribe. Let us know what you think. Appreciate you, man. Thank you, man. I appreciate you.