No Jumper - 2kbaby on Past Issues with Adam, Chain Snatching, Getting His House Shot Up & More

Episode Date: February 12, 2024

2kbaby talks about his rise, his label not doing the work, Bryson Tiller, Jack Harlow, working with Marshmello, new music on the way, and more! ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. And I'm in here today with 2K Baby. It's been a long time coming. As being, man. How should we start this? Should we talk about it? Yeah, let's talk about it, man.

Let's talk about it. You hit me up to interview you in, I don't know, probably like 2017. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And... No, actually, it might have been 20... Because I remember I blew like 2018, 2019. Okay.

So it might be like 2019 type shit, 2019, 2020. And I said no at the time because my... my, for the record, my perspective was that yes, you had a wave going, but I, like, tapped into a few of the other interviews, and I felt like you weren't really, like, given that much on a lot of other interviews. Yeah, man, you called me boring on Twitter.

Did I? Yeah, you called me boring, bro. I didn't know we took this to Twitter. I was like, damn, I went on there, and I seen, like, you had just responded to, like, you know, like, why I hadn't been on the platform yet, and it was like, I just feel like he's born, straight up. At the same time, I was like,

I respect it, though, because you're keeping it in a bin, you're keeping it in a hundred. And then that kind of made me like, you know, I'd be looking at everything from a lot of different perspectives. So I was also like just looking at from like, you know, as if I was, you know, and I had a platform where I was interviewing people. I'm like, okay, maybe I do need to juice it up a little bit, be a little bit more entertaining as far as like beyond the music. You know what I mean? I think at that time too, because you're signed at that time, right? Yeah, I was.

And you had the full label push behind you at that moment. And I feel like I was in a weird state too where I was kind of used to all these rappers coming up organically and stuff. And then I started to feel like, like during the SoundCloud era, it felt like all this just happening naturally. And then I started to feel like around like 2018, 2019 that it just felt like the labels were always like trying to push the hot new artists on me. I understand that. But I'm going to keep it up being with you. Like that wasn't even the case with me. And it could have been.

And looking back like, for example, like Columbia, like Columbia, the artists that they was grabbing, they grab their artists and take over the internet with their ass like, You know what I mean? I had caught my wave, my internet wave. I spent my last little thousand, $2,000 on my little freestyle video paying as many people I could get it reposted and then it generated its momentum. And that's when the label came. That's when Warner came. Pick me up.

And once I had signed a deal to Warner after I signed that deal, I ain't not one song I dropped from that point forward had been pushed or went the way that my original song went before I got with the label. You know what I mean? And to be honest, though, I regret it just because when I listen to your shit, like your old and your new shit, you were very ahead of the time on, ahead of the times on what is basically like the dominant style of rap now, which is basically like, melodic rap. But street being said in more of like a singing songy or a beat type way.

And now I'm trying to like, I'm trying to go beyond that. Like you just said now, that is like the main. You feel me what I was doing back then, that's not really that special now because everybody doing that shit. So now I'm kind of trying to lean out of the, I mean, I'm still always going to do the melodic rap because that's my core fan base, but I'm trying to do like real more grand, bigger sounds than just hip hop, just rap. You know what I mean?

Like, I know I got a voice, so I'm really trying to get into like real music, like singing and all that type of stuff. Yeah, because a lot, some of the newer stuff does sound even more like you're really trying to kind of go outside rap. Like, it's actually kind of crazy watching the video and you got like 20 kids in a parking lot like that all kind of look like you type. And then you're, you're doing music that doesn't really sound like hip hop or street rap. at all.

Fax, facts, facts. And it's also a throw-off, too, because, like, if you ever be around me and just listen to the music, I listen to on a regular bass in the car and shit, that, like, I listen to, like, same shit. I do you listen to, you feel me?

So you can be listening to drill or whatever, and then when you actually are making music, your brain doesn't go in that direction? Yeah, but I'm making music, though, like, I don't know, it's like, I can only produce, like, my sound. Like, you know what I mean? Not saying that, because if I wanted to,

I could, I could get on that rap, talk that, rah, oh, but it's just so many n- doing that so many people doing it like i'm like bro like why would i want to do the same everybody else doing but what about somebody like a polo g who kind of splits their where like he can do he can do yeah he's amazing he can do the super melodic but then also from time to time you'll hear him make a song where he's just rapping his ass off and it's kind of like refreshing because you're like oh okay you can do a really good job of that now i got a lot of that like in the vault i have a lot of music but right now i'm focused on like just one trying to get my

core fan base back like turn which is they like the melodic rap and also trying to build a new fan with the more grand music. You know, I want to sell out stadiums and selling out clubs and doing club walk-throughs and all that's cool, but I'm trying to do big shit for real.

Yeah, because it's kind of crazy like, as a rapper, you almost like, well, not everybody goes through this transformation but even somebody like, Dirk, you come out with a, like all drill type shit, very, very street early on.

And then once you have that fan base, that fan base is kind of like open to you going in different directions. You just have to do a really fucking good job of that. So, even X is like an extremely good example of it. He gets popular off making this crazy rage

Mosh pit music and then when he starts putting out albums, he just makes shit that's more spiritual. When I came in the game, I had my core fan base and everybody so stuck on me, I could have got to doing this shit and they would have followed through with it. But that's like now I'm trying to, um, my fault. Now, you know, because I took a little hiatus.

You know what I mean? I had my little real life situations where I kind of fell back off the internet. I fell back off the rap. Like all that shit to really focus on. my mental so I didn't continue to lose myself because I was losing myself for a minute. So losing yourself how? Just really like just not putting all my energy into focusing on me.

You know what I mean? I was focused on trying to please everybody else and save everybody else and make sure everybody else happy. You know what I mean? Before I make sure I'm happy. Right. I mean, doing what I feel. I'm trying to do with everybody else telling me. Like you feel me?

I had so many people around me. You know, when I got on, I was so focused on remaining a real. I ain't going to leave nobody behind. So I try to keep everybody with me So are you wasting money Taking your whole crew everywhere with you And shit? Like what a lot of rappers doing

They get on, you know, you get a crew up You know what I mean? I grew up, you know, watching my favorite rappers Be turnt, you know And fat cribs with day and shit And when I got turned I'm like, I'm like, do the same shit. Got me crib, had six, seven Louisville

with me, you know what I mean? All day, every day. You feel me? Definitely. Yeah, I mean, I've heard from a lot of people I was watching a hit boy interview the other day I was talking about as soon as he took off as a producer, he gets a crib and he got a whole gang,

he's even worse because he's in LA, so his homies are like right there. So all of a sudden the house is filled up with 20 dudes that he really got love for. But once you're like the only successful one, you're basically like setting up a scenario where if you're affording them their whole lifestyle, you're gonna lose all your friends.

You're enabling them. Yeah. You know, you're enabling them. And I try to put a lot of them on my position so I didn't have to continue to enable them. You know what I mean? I try to put them in position to where a few months from there, I'm, you tell me hopping the car with you see why you go grab a new car off the lot.

You know what I mean? But, you know, that s didn't play out how I thought it was going to play out. You know, and I couldn't continue to do that shit. Definitely. So let's go from the beginning, though, talk about your early life in Louisville. That's where you're from day one? Yeah, Louisville. Louisville, Kentucky, born and raised.

My whole life, I didn't get out of that. I was 18. You ever go hang out of the skate park? Nah. It's been a long time. I've been in the skate park out there. We do have a skate park, and I can't say I ain't never hung out there. It's huge.

Yeah, we don't. the one I'm thinking of downtown. Yeah, but the thing is, like, growing up, like the skate park, we didn't go to the skate park to skate. Like, you go to the skate park, you know, sometimes the fight and, you know, pop off at the skate park. Like, you know what I mean?

It went for skateboarding, like. No, even the people who ride bikes and skateboarders, it's like the skate park is like, you could hang out with girls there, you smoke cigarettes there, drink there, you fight there. I ain't gonna lie, there was an incident, though, a little boy and his mama got beat up, man.

That's crazy. Really? Yeah, ever since then, like, nah, like, you know, Be down on a skateboard and riding their bikes. When they see them start to come up and post up and they'll get all. Interesting. Yeah, I'm talking like 2004 when I went there. A trillion years ago.

I was four years old, though. Yeah, exactly. I was four years old. Yeah. I ain't pick up skateboard though, so I came out here to L.A. Got exposed to different shit, seeing different shit. You know what I mean? And honestly, I had a lot of real life shit going on.

And, you know, I know you remember the phase where all the rappers were getting hit with Rikos and all the type of shit. You know what I mean? I think we're still in that phase. Yeah. We're still cooking up more Rikos. Yeah, bro. I know for a minute, though, that was, like, just the new hot word on the streets. Like, you feel, me?

It was just everywhere. So, motherfucking, during that time, for real, with something like going on. I was really, like, honestly, Adam, like, I was really on some master of disguise. Like, you know what I mean? Like, for real, for real. Master of disguise, what you mean? Like, okay, boom. I look at it from my perspective, like, okay, I'm in L.A. or I'm in Atlanta, you feel

me? But back home, I got all these n-around with two K chains on. You know what I mean? just dumb shit, you know? Right. Boom. So, and there was some other shit I was involved in too, you feel me that, like before I got my deal, that, you know, was allowing me to, you know, put on a certain image.

You know what I mean? So you're all up in the streets when you're in Louisville, basically. Yeah. Am I saying it wrong, Louville? Louisville. A lot of people say Louisville, you feel me? Say Louis is kind of trashy. I mean, it's normal.

I'm so used to. I'm saying that. But back home, everybody from her, they say Louisville. You know what I mean? But, yeah, I had so much shit going on, bro. Honestly, bro. I'm like, to dodge that shit, so I got to make sure I don't end up locked up in four walls. Paint my nails, down my hair, pick up a skateboard, all that shit.

You know what I mean? Because I really got, I had, I throw me up underneath the bus at him. Like, I had nes really like not, you feel me that I thought was for me that ended up not really being for me. So when that shit happened, bro, I had to do what was best for me. So you leave all the dudes that are your homies from back home. They're reping your shit. But it's the kind of thing where it's like a label, but it's also some street sh**. What do you mean by leave?

Under the same name. Well, you're taking off doing your music. Well, no, I had brought everybody with me. Right. I had brought everybody with me. But in the midst of that, you know, be back home. Right. You know what I mean?

So, you know, and at the same time, I might have four, I might have three four with me at my house and another three four next home at the time. You feel me? But you get picked up for shooting something. you but if somebody gets picked out for shooting somebody and they got the fucking 2K chain on the cops are like ah ha I mean like he's the leader you know a nigga could get picked up for stealing some stuff and he got 2K chain though right I ain't saying nobody was doing it right but yeah I'm saying so you're your younger days though

like just to go in your younger days were you like super in the streets why you were in Louisville or what was yeah I was outside I was in the streets now I ain't gonna sit here and be like oh I was some killer ass yeah out there shoot like you feel me like all my partners they was a lot more wild than me you feel me I was really focused on getting some money like I was in the squad that was really focused on getting some money I'm trying to put us on you feel me like I'm doing my music you know now you know we had a little incidences here and there we had to do whatever we had to do but I went and know I ain't going to sit and by I was just some killer but whenever I think about Louisville I think about how ESCG described it to me

basically yeah he was like you know in my neighborhood is normal for everybody to be walking around with choppers and just in their hands. You don't even have to hide it. No, no, no, no. And Louisville, like, everybody would be walking around, you feel me, AIs, everything, like, you know, it's normal. And that's your, that's still normal. So that's, like, kind of your memories of your childhood

has just seen extreme like that? Childhood, like, I'm, like, growing up all the way up, I ain't gonna lie, I didn't really start being outside like that. I say to, like, 13. You feel, me, like, 13 is when I really started, like, going outside like that. Like, up to 13, I was, you know, hooping, feel me back and four for my daddy to my mama house, you feel

me. When I turned to 11, I took out my daddy house and sent to, like, just be with my mom. It was like a no-contact order with my pop star, 18, like, on some court, CPA. Like, you know how that shit. What happened with your dad? It was just a lot of shit going on

at my daddy's house, you know? A lot of shit going on. You know, you know how that shit. I don't know. I can't say you know how that shit, but... Right. I can imagine. Yeah, bro. It's just a lot of shit, man. Um, rest of peace my father though. Really?

Yeah. You lost his life recently? Yeah, I lost my pops two years ago. And even though your relationship with him was kind of fucked up, was that? I wasn't saying my relationship with him was fucked up. I didn't really get to tap back in with my pops. I was like 17, 18. So, you know, these last few years I got to spend with him, I'm grateful for him.

You know what I mean? And he was a lot different. He was a lot different and grown a lot from since I was 10 and 11 years old from the last time I seen him, you know? And so were you getting in a lot of trouble, like just in school and getting arrested in shit? Was it not really like that? I'm B-100. I got arrested when I was like 12 for like some little boy.

Like I had a little BB gun just pointing some BB guns and cars like that. You feel me? And then when I was like 16, I got arrested again for car hopping. I was out car hopping with my best friend Uno. Rest in peace, Uno too. But yeah, we just used to be out like 14, 15. Like I said, that's 13, 14. That's when I started getting outside.

So we start car-hopping, I've been checking cars that, you know, selling a little weed, taking weed from the-old. You know, fighting, look, you know, fighting, turn there. Woo-woo. But, yeah, when I was, like, 16, I was out of car hopping with Uno,

feeling me, just checking a whole bunch of cars and everything. Polis got on our ass. We tried to run. Heard in the shit. They took us out the shit. Boom, whatever. That's some little juvenile shit.

Gamed me a little diversion program. You go to court a few times, get a diversion program. We got to do some more classes, right, essays, whatever. And then soon, like, two months after I turned 18, I got arrested again for like, um, got covered with an AR and some weed on me and shit. Boom. Got that bump down to like an enhanced misdemeanor.

They gave me like a probated two years. You know what I mean? Then shit after that. Got arrested again. And a Linux mall situation, man. Right. Yeah, man. So all that was before the music show started cracking off?

Oh, the Linux mall was after the music shit. Okay. But everything else was, yeah, before music. So when did you actually start working on the music and thinking that that could be your path? When I started, like my first time when we started rapping, I was 14 years old, bro. Like my best friend, I got locked up. We was car hopping. Boom.

He ain't get arrested for car hopping, though. He got arrested because the yeeks, that's what we be calling guns. So the yeeks that we found in the car, he took him to school. Boom, got caught with him at school. He'd get jammed up. So I started rapping just on some, like, trying to be like on some free my bro. Back then I was listening to a lot of little herb and shit. So just seeing free of the song was just cool or whatever.

So 14, that's when I really start rapping like that. But as far as like taking this serious, like really taking this serious, I probably say like a year or two after I really started rapping. That's when my big bro YC kind of picked me up and told me like, just keep rapping. Like keep rapping. I'm going to make sure you straight. Got some money in your pocket.

Got some clothes. Got some, you feel me, you eating. I'm going to make sure your n-knit is in line. All your young n-knit taught me how to like really get them line too. You feel me? even though they was, like I said, more wild than me and on bull. I was still, in a sense, able to form something. We was just young.

I had formed some shit. You feel me, put some together. So that's how that shit. So you saw that vision early on. Were you singing the shit? That's what I was going to say. I ain't, I ain't going to allow to you. I ain't, like, old streets was, like, kind of like my first time kind of singing.

I ain't busted a note ever in my life until I turn, when I told you, I got arrested after I turned 18. So what happened when I got arrested for that, you know, they tried. They ripped my car apart, you feel Because they're trying to find some other shit You know what I mean So boom, once I got out a couple days later And my people's picked me up, take me to the pound To get my car up the pound

My seats is ripped up My radio's ripped out all that shit So at that point I'm like damn Like okay boom I can just go back to the hood You feel me But I would have to get another gun But now I'm out trying to fight this little shit

You know I mean And I didn't want to do it But I had knowledge that my daddy And that side of the family was in Atlanta But you got to think I ain't see nothing them since I was like a limb you know what I mean so really I took like a leap of faith like just took a risk like for I'm already just go to the A try to tap in with them just stay out of trouble

it's a five six hour drive from Louisville to Atlanta like I said the police rip my radio out my car you know I mean I had an infinity G 35 like a 06 you know I mean so I took that little five six hour drive no radio I'm just smoking black and mouths I've been smoking black and miles since like 14 so I'm just smoking my blacks I just start singing in the car out of my swear God I swear, God, that's like my first time singing ever in my life. I was in that car driving five, six hours, no radio. I just start singing in the car. That's funny because I've definitely been there.

Like, now everybody got a phone and an oxcord and shit. But back in the day when your fucking radio wasn't working, or if you just didn't want to listen to the radio, you just kind of start, like, humming to yourself or whatever. Yeah, man. But that's funny that that's what got you started with the singing. Because the reason why I started... I would have never started singing.

You know what I'm saying? I wouldn't have... It would never happen. The reason I started podcasting is because, because I went to Spain for a month in my phone, basically, like, wouldn't work or, like, most of the time while I was out there. So I wasn't really on my phone. So I had a lot more time to think, and it made me realize that I wanted to start being a podcast. Wait, what did you go to Spain for, though, though, though, though, though, though, though, though.

I was on a BMX trip. So you was already turned. But as turned as you could get in BMX, aka not even close to Tern from a rapper standpoint. But I definitely had some shone on, but I'm... It's way more turned than BMX, all right? Yeah, BMX is kind of a small community in comparison. but okay so you're you're singing in the car then you get to Atlanta and then do you start recording this yeah I ain't gonna lie like I was singing in the car I called a couple of my I'm driving like yo how

they sound you know I mean they like man that's yeah I'm like all right like you can sing as soon as I got to Atlanta I call uh my my big bro Y C who's my manager now I called him like yo you know anybody in Atlanta I could tap in with they got a studio he was I know this one dude from his one studio um well I was I got to Atlanta shit drove to do studio here, a little setup in his basement. I was just down there really perfecting my and then Old Streets came about,

the way old streets came about so crazy, like. Because that's the one that has like 60 million on World Star, right? Yeah, bro. It's platinum, you know? My little brother made that beat. That was the first beat

my little brother ever made. Okay, like we was in Atlanta. I was in that basement, practicing my little singing. I had to go back home to Louisville because I had all, I've been turning Louisville since 14, I ain't gonna lie, like for the rap, just on some rap.

So I had to go back home to Louisville to do like some little parties and shows and shit for Derby Week, for Kentucky Derby. So I left my little brother in Atlanta. Mind you, I ain't even tap in with my little brother too. I tapped it with my little brother the same time when I tapped back in with my daddy. You don't feel of me?

So, yeah, I left my little brother in Atlanta with the dudes that had the studio. They taught him how to make beats in that one week. I come back to Atlanta. That's the first beat he made. He played me to beat. I'm like, that shit, five. We ran outside, shot the little freestyle video,

posted it. and that shit doing something and that's when I took my me and YC took out a couple thousands and just put it into that video Mm-hmm

That's crazy that You just had that Like just a, it was just like iPhone video Of you just wrapping it With no beat or anything? No, it was a, yeah It was a video

I played the beat That my little brother made out the car And I had came up With like four lines In my head already So I just sung the four lines And then the rest of it Kind of just came to me

That's funny Because that's like Basically exactly how Quondoronoronoron got a sign back in the day. Remember he was beating on the car. Not back then, like that 2019, 2018, 2019, back then, like before COVID, that's when a lot of artists

were still blowing up off that organic content. Like, you know, now it's about actually recording it and putting the audio over the visual and shit. If you could stand out to people by just rapping and not really having, like, the full production. Also, that was a time period in which, like, people were really,

really shocked to see a dude who was, like, clearly a kid from the hood, but who was also, like, singing and had, like, real soul. Yeah, and can hold a tone or anything like that. People love that type of thing. They're beating on cars and just acopalas and all that shit. Definitely. Okay.

So you spent a couple thousand dollars to put the video together, and then how'd you end up getting in a World Star? Like I said, we spent a couple thousand just sent to 100 herd, 200 herd. You feel me? Just as many pages as we could that would take a little payment. You started doing promo for it, right? And I ain't a lot. World Star called it, and they just liked it.

They just reached out because that's what happened with YBN-N-N-Mier when we first was fucking with him that one song, but when World Star reached out they put the video, they don't really do that anymore. Yeah, not no more. Not more,

but they liked it. It was content that they liked, so they just put it up. Definitely. Shout out World Star. That's crazy. So is that like the song that really changed their life

and all of a sudden the label start calling? Man, what? Come on, bro. I got, what, yes, bro. I signed a million dollars off that song, bro.

Really? Yeah, bro. So you had a label war going on for a little while there? Type shit. Like, labels started calling and shit. you know, once you get your first offer, next label, this is free game, too,

to any artists out there that got any type of momentum and they're getting calls and once you get your first offer, this label card, they try and boom, they offer you, oh, well, who do you offer me this, you feel it me? You got to pit them against each other. Yeah, then they're going to offer you, boom. Now, let's say a third label call, you go back to the other, but they offer me this, and they're going to take it up a notch, you feel you. So, yeah, I ain't going to lie, I had, like, a lot of labels calling.

A lot of labels flew out to Atlanta and pulled up to that same basement I was in, practicing my sound and sat down with me. Wow. It offered me different numbers. Which labels you end up choosing? Warner. Warner. Yeah. I'm Warner. They changed my life. And they gave you over an M to sign? Yeah. Wow.

Well, I think at the time when I had signed this 2K baby, the only thing out was O Streets. It's the freestyle video, and I had probably just uploaded the audio on DSPs. And then, you know, honestly, I had pulled up to the office, and I played them all the songs I had made in that basement while I was perfecting that sound, that melodic sound,

I just discovered. I was playing them all that. And they were fucking with all the stuff you had on release as well. Yeah. But when I had signed, like, the only song I had out was O Street. That's two good baby. Was your mentality fully confident or were you kind of nervous like, holy shit? They're giving me this much money and I got to actually like show and prove.

Like, where was your mentality at? Because I could see it going either way. I didn't go lie. My mentality was definitely like I was super confident. Like I ain't go like. It was still surreal though. You know what I mean? Everything was so surreal.

It was crazy. Like, any day I felt like I could have woke up and it could have been a dream. Right. Just being a kid from the hood, that's like the craziest thing possible. At the same time, I just knew like everything I had been through and everything I had sacrificed, everything I had lost, everything I had gained, like just everything I had been through to get to that point. I was just like, nah, bro, I'm going to make it's worth it, bro.

I'm going to make it worth it for everybody around me, bro. That's crazy because like now that you're in the industry, you know, loads of people who have had the same experience where they basically just get signed by a label out of nowhere and have all this money and shit. But like from your perspective at that time, you didn't know anybody who had ever had that kind of experience, right? And the only person from my city that had ever made it out, like that blew up before me was Bryson Tiller at that time. You know what I mean? That's the only other person that had made it out. And you're not exactly looking at him like he's the same as you, right? Because

he got like a super clean image and all that kind of shit. And you're more like... I mean, me and Bryson from the south. We're from like the same. Oh, okay. You know him before he was successful or not? I'll be 100 with you, bro. I used to work at Popeyes, bro. No cap, I worked at Popeyes once in. Love Popeyes.

And I was like, I think I was like, I had to be maybe like 15, no cap. And boom. So I'm not, and I imagine you, at the time, I'm trying to do my little rap, you know what I mean, too. So I was already rapping, you know? Boom, so I'm working and I come out the bathroom and everybody's geeking, like everybody's tweaking.

I'm like, bro, what's going on? they like, oh, Bryce and Taylor just came through. We told him go out front, you feel me, and wait on his food because it's not done yet. So I just played it off. Like, oh, like, I ain't cur. But at my mind, I'm like, nah, like, it's an opportunity, you feel me? But mind you, everybody that's working there is trying to grab the food first

to take it out there to them. So I'm just acting like I don't care. You see what? As soon as they put the little box up, grab it on a little quick dude in the bag, I go out there. He's in a little white porch, man. I'm like, man, what's up, bro? You feel me?

Yeah, I rap, bro, I'm trying to, woo, woo. I ain't gonna lie, bro. I can tell bro, bro, just wanted his food, well. You know what that's like now. Yeah, bro, so I just ate his food, bro, and let him go by his business, you know? Right. Damn, that's crazy.

So, okay, how does your life change after you get signed? Like, to have you in big studios in L.A. and shit, or is it more like not just... When I first signed, I was still living in Atlanta. You know, so when I first signed, you know, I flew back. to Atlanta because I flew out to LA to sign and you know you got wait I had to split my shit up in a payment but boom basically you got wait on first payment you know I had to go make a bank account and shit you know all that right I made it I ain't no lie when I first got back to

Atlanta I'm like man ain't nothing fin to stop me from seeing this money you know what I mean so I want and just got me some weed bought me a bunch of night quill I was staying a little one-bedroom apartment and some little projects in Atlanta you feel me so went back to the little one bedroom apartment my ceiling was caving in all that I just smoke and drunk nightquil every single day I never left it. Really? For like a week. Why the night quality?

You were just going to the zone out? My days away. Make the time go as fast as possible. I was like, bro, I don't want to walk out. I said I get hit by a rock or anything, bro. Like, you see me? Yeah. So I just slept my days away until I woke up.

Kept checking my app every day. Then I checked the main app one day. Shit, shit hit. Six figures? Yeah, yeah. And what do you do that? It was the day before my little brother's birthday, August 22nd.

So, boom, we went to the mall. We got some outfits from chance. from champs. It's my first time having money. You don't even know what to buy. You don't know what store

to go to. So we went to champs, bro. We got some little, I think I got my jeans from American Eagle. Like, feel me?

And then after that, I ain't gonna lie. I went to the jeweler, bro, and I got 12 chains made. 12. Oh, for all my homies,

right? Yeah, for all my dog. I was like, everybody who I felt like, not just my homies, but everybody who I felt like played a role

into like, help me get to where I got. So I got 12 chains made. Yeah. Wow. And then how's life go from there? Like, I don't know. How do you move ahead?

Everybody started asking for shit. Yeah. Like immediately? Yeah, immediately. You would think it'd be like kind of gradual and like kind of, but no, it's like immediately. And did you recognize that for them trying to take advantage of you or you just kind of think this is normal? I'm just like, I wanted to do it. I'm just like, yeah.

Half of the people that are asking me shit, I was already thinking of shit to get down. So when they ask me for something It just kind of made it easier Like all right cool I don't know what to get you There's so many times I've been interviewing somebody And they're like It's somebody who has not been signed yet

Or hasn't really got money yet And they're talking about how when I get on I'm gonna put my whole team on I'm gonna put my whole city on I'm gonna make sure that none of my homies ever got And I'm just kind of sitting there thinking Like yeah I know that sounds good

But the reality is That probably ain't gonna be your attitude A year or two from now After you get signed or whatever Yeah but and it's like it sounds fucked up. It's like, I don't want to say you can't think like that, bro. But you just got to really, like,

you got to really think about who really been there for you. You know what I mean? Like, even, like, I'm gonna be 100, like, not saying I ain't did shit for my family. Like, you know, one of the first things I did was move my granny out, you feel me? Like, when my granny was staying,

I put her in a wherever, I let her pick wherever she wanted to go. Yeah, I mean? But, like, even just all the shit I didn't do. for my niggas, bro, I'd be just thinking like, damn, like all that money I just spent on my niggas, bro, like that's money I could have gay to my granny or gay to my little brother, you feel me?

You know what I mean? I got a lot of family members, you know what I mean? So a lot of the times, though, what happens is that someone will ask you for something and you do it and you're their best friend. They love you, you're the greatest. Yeah, you'll say yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. And then you say no.

They're going to discredit every time you say, yeah. Right, and they'll be talking about you like you changed. You ain't never did nothing, phone. It's just crazy. And did you have that experience, like, pretty quickly, or when did that start kicking in, realizing that this maybe wasn't going to work out? I'd probably say, I ain't going to lie. It went right, all.

It probably went, like, a good year before shit started, you know, going left with a lot of different people. Right. You know what I mean? So the first year, though, shit was turked, though. I ain't going to lie, shit was turnt. But I was definitely getting, a lot of people would just benefit. getting and weren't really for me and I went seeing that. Yeah, it takes a while for you to kind of realize.

Yeah, but I'm glad it happened though. Like, you know what I mean? I feel like everything happened for a reason. I feel like God gave me certain things, you know, at certain levels because, you know, I'm ready for certain things, certain levels, you know? But so, okay, are you spending most of your time in L.A. at that point or Atlanta? I was living in Atlanta. I had me a house in Atlanta and everything.

And then shit. My house got shot up in Atlanta. No cop. Then I had another situation. situation in Atlanta. My car got shot up. So you're getting into shit in Atlanta? Yeah, I was getting into shit in Atlanta. I ain't a lot to you. You're thinking you were going to be able to keep your nose clean out there,

but then all of a sudden shit starts happening? I mean, honestly, bro, I was just young intern, bro, and I went and really, like, thinking, like, seeing shit from every perspective, because you got to think, like, if a nigga just moved to Louisville, so a nigga that's not from Louisville, you feel me, and he's just outside different foreign cars and, you know, just popping his shit everywhere he go. Like, niggas. Who is this nigga? Like, they don't want to see

what's up. You feel me? So, like, yeah, like, a lot of just, I just have a different run. It was just random. But it would be one thing if you were like, yeah, my house got robbed. When you say my house got shot up, that means that somebody wanted to. Now, all right, now that shit, I'm going to be one of that. That shit was kind of some different shit.

That was some shit, like, like I said, that's just my mistake for having so many niggas standing in my career. You know what I mean? I had a lot of Louisville nigs in my career. Boom. One of my dogs had some little hose over. I guess they were some strippers or whatever. But yeah, shit, I mean, one of my partners came in the room. He was like, man,

bro just had some little, some little vibes come in. They rude and woo-woo-woo-woo. I don't know. So I'm like, man, I'm going to go see what's up. So I go in the room, I see what's up. They was on some old, I don't know. They was like, oh, I don't know. They were like, wow. So I was like, shit, y'all can go. You know what I mean? I can leave.

So I told them leave. They walking out. As they walking out, my little brother, dumb. Like, my little brother, he's just done, bro. As they walking out, bro, my little brother, won't run up to the door with a little yke in his hand like yeah don't never come back you feel me i'm like bro get in the house bro feel me what's dumb shit bro so damn boom i guess like shit next day they told the big brother or the boyfriend or whatever i don't know i'm sleep bro i'm be wanting

with you how the story really go is next day go i go to sleep boom i wake up in the morning i wake up my phone going crazy um i'm on the phone they're like yeah your house girl shout up da da da da da da da I'm walking around the house in my draw. I was like, what are you talking about? Like, my house didn't get shot up last night. Like, y'all crazy. Like, you know, I'm,

as I'm walking around in my drawers, bro, I ain't gonna lie, I see, like, little rays of sunlight coming down the hallway. So I walked through the hallway. I see little holes in my front door. I'm like, what? That's crazy.

I check my garage, my garage got holes in it. Then I go back to my bedroom where I just woke up from. It's holes everywhere. Like, feel me? I'm like, damn, what? This is crazy. Like, boom, they sending me videos

from the neighbor's cameras and shit. And I guess, like, the same car that the girls was in, they pulled up. Because I had lived at, like, the end of the street. So the girls had pulled up, and there was a car behind them. And so they pulled up, and then they pulled off. And the car that was behind them, shoot, they hopped out, hit the crib up. They ran around the back, went to where my bedroom was at, and just was hitting at my

bedroom. And they hopped back in that car, I pulled out. Well, shooting up a house is so crazy. But it's so crazy to me, though, because, like I said, I swear, like, true story, like, I didn't even know. Yeah. No, I feel you because I honestly feel like I would sleep through that too. Like I could sleep through a lot. Mm-mm. That's crazy.

You medicated at the time? Nah. I was just smoking, like weed. Because when you say that you were drinking like bottles of NyQuil to sleep those days off, I'm having to assume that that turned into you drinking a lot of lean once you have money. Uh-uh. No? I ain't start drinking. I had a little lean phase, but that ain't coming until I moved out here to L.A.

I ain't gonna lie. I moved out of L.A. one of my good friends one of my good friends I was just pulling it up every day for like four or five months I was just drinking that shit but then it got to the point

to where like I'd be at the crib and I couldn't even go to sleep until like I would you feel me had to shit get up go over the broke crib kick it we get drinking man that's why I knew I had to stop

like then I'm going over here just to get some drink to go to sleep like right stop feel me so okay so you got your your house shot up that one time and then you said you hear a car shot up soon after was it like from the same shit you think I'd have the same week though same week but it wasn't the same thing two different

situation separate situation I was I was in a relationship with this girl and Atlanta I stayed in the Jicks and I remember I was down for a while like for some months probably like six months but I remember the first time I pulled up over there like there was a little squad over there trying to like see what's up check check temperature but I wasn't really going for it so they backed off of whatever. Ain't nothing happen. So then six months later, I'm over there. Taco Tuesday, Adam. It's Taco Tuesday, bro. Oh, shit. I'm in the career with her, her mama, her sisters. Boom. One of her sisters coming in career like, yeah, they're outside. Waiting on you. I'm like, I go look out the window. Boom. Like five of them. I'm like, I bet. So boom, I call my dogs.

Like the career, mind you, I got like five niggas living in my house. You know what I mean? And I remember I ain't gonna lie. They used to always, whenever I go over there, they used to be like, bro, like, let one of us ride with you. But my pride was just something like, nah, I don't care, like, feel me? Like, I don't need nobody with me. So boom, call them, tell them pull up. They pull up, like 10 minutes later.

As soon as they pull up, boom, ain't nobody outside, though. Feel me? They pull up, ain't nobody outside. And then, boom. Damn, I don't even think about it's tough, boy. I just should play out, though. Because there's like your internet friendly version of the story, and then there's the real version.

Yeah, bro. I feel like you're choosing your adventure. But you see how shit go, bro. Yeah, yeah. He's how shit go, bro. Nobody was outside, bro, but they ended up pulling back up. Boom. I mean, dude who's having shit,

spending a lot of time around people who ain't having shit, not likely to work out in the long run. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Basically. Like, I'm just picturing myself Like if I was fucking some girl I should live in the projects Yeah

I mean, number one, I'm not going there You got Uber to me Number two, I still don't like this idea Because realistically, you're surrounded By a bunch of motherfuckers You got nothing to lose, right? Yeah, man Man, yeah, bro

So, okay That happens And then how far apart was the Lennox Chain Snatching incident? Was this all like the same time period? Same week? Same week? That's why I moved

out of Atlanta. What the fuck? And was that related to either of these situations or was that just some other shit? Nah, it was a whole other shit. What the fuck? You got hella ops in the course of a week? Now, so that was like my little brother birthday. Took him to the mall.

Kind of like same shit. My dog was like, let's go. I'm like, nah. I took one of my partners with me though. I took my big bro Y seat. I took his little brother with me. So we go to the mall, you know, in there a shopper with my little brother for his birthday. Some grown-ass nigger was like, yo, bro, I'm on a picture. I'm like, all right, shit, it's cool. Shit, I take the picture with, bro.

As soon as I take the picture with bro, he just turned, grab the chain, take off running. So I'm like, yeah, what the fuck? Boom, I take off running after, dude. As I'm taking off running after him, I got a Gucci bag on me, you feel me? I got like 20,000 in my Gucci bag. I got a geeking, you, you know, you feel me? everybody at Lennox got a eke huh I don't know they got mail to take this now

for real I was thinking about it like they should Mm-hmm back then they didn't though Mm-hmm so boom shit chasing dude Take the eke out the bag I'll take the eke out of the bag in the mall Shit whole mall break loose

Femmy everybody starts screaming and running Taze them all the way to the parking garage he hopped in this car the car tried to pull off I hop in front of the car at him I'm like man everybody finn't go in here I can't go live in so

some old ass nigga just hopped out the car take off running like I don't even know this dude I don't know what's going on I'm like them so then so you didn't even get a chance to let it off I feel like we would have heard about it if you did no no no I ain't let it off that's got to be a big decision in the moment

Big decision Like the biggest decision in your life While I'm chasing them and shit You know Uh huh And really I was just trying to catch bro You know You just want your shit bag

It's probably not gonna go down Like that though Yeah though I take them so boom So dude hop out the car Boom Buddy how about the car Fast forward like

Five minutes He's butt naked Adam Dude's butt naked bro You stripped him Hmm You stripped them No, I didn't say that.

I did not say that. How else would he get naked? He's a fucking nudist. Scared. You just, I want to live my life this way? I don't know what the fuck. I didn't say that, though. But dude, I say, yeah, pass forward five minutes later, he's butt naked.

Police come out. They see him butt naked on the ground. They see me. You feel me? And then my man's was with me, too. My little brother, most still in the mall, though. So my man's with me He got a yke too

We turn, we see the police They all right there They just start flocking, feel me? We just start letting them off So we turn They hit my man's in his shoulder and his ankle As soon as they hit bro in the shoulder And the ankle

I just Through the yke in the air like, all right boom I got it bro like I'm shooting man And so then you get charged with what? Shit. I'm not like

like a salt and some other shit. And it didn't matter that you were initially the victim in the situation? Right, type shit. What the fuck? Yeah. That's crazy.

So what'd you end up getting in court? I got Drew Finley, bro. We beat that shit. Really? Mm-hmm. On account of the fact that you would initially

had them do something to you? Was it like self-defense type charge? Yeah. I was defending myself. Wow. That's crazy. Defending my little brother. You feel me?

I ain't gonna lie. Like when he had took off with the chain, I ain't even peeped. Like, he had another nigga in the cut that had just ran and just took the little bags my little brother had. You see what I'm saying? Wow.

That's crazy. So that caused you to get up out of Atlanta? You stopped staying there after that? That must have been a really stressful week. At the off of the incident, bro? I was like, yeah, bro. And then like, that Linux shit, That cost me a lot of money, too.

You know what I mean? Like, Drew Finley ain't no cheap-ass lawyer. You know, that's a billion-dollar lawyer, you know? Right. So, motherfucking, you know, that shit. And then, motherfucking, you know, the car, I had to get my car fix when that situation happened. You know, the crib. I had to move cribs within 24 hours.

You know, I had to go to a whole new crib. What the fuck? That's a crazy story. So I was like, yeah, I'm feeling just go to L.A. Where it's like, you know, probably be chill at. stay off mailroads and stay in the hills and shit like that but I saw you on millrose like multiple times was like before you stopped going there because of shit like I used to live right off

mailroads oh okay I used to live right off millrose bro so I used to like be on millrose every day shopping yeah you know and I had my little skateboarding phase I was skateboarding up and and down millrose you know so did that make you want to stop rocking jewelry and having 20k in your Gucci bag and shit or no no honestly I'm gonna be 100 with you like I had I had like the team that I had around at the time, which I don't have anymore, like, once I moved out L.A., like, they was telling me, like, bro, like, you know, don't, don't listen to the internet. Don't let people get to you. Don't let them think, oh, you got to, you know, get back, you feel, me, all this. And then at the same time, bro, like, I'll be honest, like,

a lot of that, a lot of that shit that I used to, like, you feel in me, have on and shit, like, I was only wearing that shit because people around me was telling me. me like, oh yeah, you gotta be flashy. You're a rapper, you gotta do this now. You know, so I was kind of like buying into that shit, you know? And the internet was loving that shit, you know, but at the same time,

when it was, you know, causing, you know, I had another situation where one of my little brother's life, my other little brother's life was almost, you know, taken. Was this the one in Orlando? Mm-hmm, yeah. So you were there touring or what were you doing there? Honestly, it was like

right after my birthday And shit Me, my brother And just some of my dogs We were just like, I mean we were trying to go to Orlando And just, you know, vibe Get a B&B, you know

Have some vibes Will it's turn up And then what? Somebody showed up Nah, bro That was just some spark of the moment Like dumb shit Like me forgetting

Who I am You know? We're chilling One of my dogs Is like, man I'm fin to go get some weed My little brother He won't ride with him

I'm like shit I don't ride too Like whatever It doesn't matter So he riding As we riding man Boom I remember as we riding He pulling up We drove like 40 minutes away from the B&B

He pulling up to like some little trenches or whatever So I'm like I asked bro like you know these people are He's like yeah bro I know I know what's up You feel me? I'm like all right cool But I'm already knowing like Shit weird So

He parked the car He hop out he talking to some nigga I'm like I'm knowing he don't know this nigger. You feel me? I'm feeling it. My little brother get out the car. When he got out of the car, my little brother get out of the car with him. So they both walk up. They're talking a dude, but I can just tell like he don't know the dude. You feel me? As they talking, shit, some other niggas get to coming out. They bring out all the yeeks. They hemmed them up. When they hemmed them up, boom, I hopped out. So I walk out, I'm like, man, what's going on? You

feel, boom? They're like, man, they want whatever. I had a little two. I had a little two, K chain on my neck. Boom, my two K chain. I had other jewelry that was in a bag in the car. So while they got us hemmed up, they're talking to my little brother already going back and forth with these niggas.

Boom, I'm like, man, LeBrow shit. Feel me? Let them niggas, you feel me? It ain't even worth the shit, you know? Other niggas hop in the car. They all hopped in the car. Pull off. Honestly,

when it was going down, them niggas didn't even know who I would. because they ain't nobody say nothing about no 2K nothing, you feel me? Right. But once they pulled off in the car and they had the bag,

I'm knowing all right, boom. Once they go in that bag and they see all the other shit, they're going to put the piece of butter. You feel me? They're going to look up, whatever. Greasy nectar. So boom, we go back to the crib.

You know about the greasy nectar? Yeah. That's what happens. Definitely the greasy neck tour. I ain't go lie. I was definitely one of them. I coined that. Yeah, so we get a ride back to the crib. Wake up next morning.

on the internet. But I'm B 100. Like, see, me, I ain't never been taught to play the internet games. You see what I'm? So, they all over the internet. Everybody like, man,

you gotta, you gotta get back. But they're all over the internet. So I'm like, at least waiting till shit chill. I'm like, let me just wait till shit chill. You feel me? I can't even wait till shit chill

because them niggas end up catching the RICO. Really? Feel me? Mind you. You know, the RICO shit, that shit, public, you feel me, record. You look that shit up.

You see in, and I only know this because my big beau look at that shit, you seeing the incident, because they was all over the internet about the shit, the incident about how they had took some jewelry from me. But it also saying he never responded. 2K never responded to anything. You feel me?

And that's why, because all that shit was going on on the internet with the Rico shit. So I'm like, man, I ain't trying to get caught up in that shit. I got other shit going on back home too. Mind you, this is the same time I'm kind of trying to start changing my image in a sense. You feel me? Because

it must be fucking crazy for you to be going through that where you're broke, your whole life, and you're not famous your whole life, and everything is kind of cool. And then all of a sudden, the best thing that could possibly happen to you happens, which is that you get signed, and then you just have the series of

terrible events that come from that, that are all directly related to the fact that you now have a bunch of money, And it must have been the ultimate version of being happy when you're broke, and then you're fucking just, I don't know if you were like fully depressed, but I mean, you had to have been pretty fucking upset about all this shit just coming one after another once you finally get some money, right? Yeah, that shit was hitting me.

I don't know that shit was hitting me left and right. No cop. And then I lost my best friend Uno at the same time. So that shit was hit me. How did he pass? He got killed back on. Really? What the fuck?

And then not too long after that. I lost my dad So that shit was getting to me too And when your friend gets killed Is it a situation where you're looking at it like Damn this is partially the result of my newfound fame Or is it unrelated? Nah, I wouldn't even connect that to the fame

That's just like You know, like niggas was like just really living like that You know Damn Yeah And so all this is up Is all that before the pandemic? Nah, this is during

That's like throughout 2020 and shit. This is during pandemic, bro. And the pandemic, bro, that shit costs me so much money too. Just because, you know, a lot of artists get their hit. Then they tour. They tour, you know. I got my hit and then COVID hit. Mm-hmm.

And then the Atlantic Small situation, me dealing with that for over a year, I couldn't get no passport. I had the number one song in France for a whole summer with O Streets. You know? And like, all these bags you could have been getting out there, working on your fan base out there and instead you're just damn wow that is fucking crazy and i mean it's the kind of thing too where like you know you've seen

dirt go through this where vaughn gets killed and then you got like this army of fucking nerd ass kids who just want you to like they want something publicly very bad to happen to the people who did something to your man and meanwhile you're out here trying to like avoid going to jail so you can't you don't want to say shit i mean in dirk's case they're like basically like trolled them into like responding in songs over and over, even though he's kind of saying that he wasn't responded, but then he also was responding, basically, without maybe saying names. Were you, like, going through that, too, where it's, like, the fans are just... Yeah, that shit.

Yeah, but at the same time, to me, like, the most important thing was, like, me not losing my little brother. You feel me? So, that was the most important thing to me. And then, like, at the same time, like, you know, niggas know, like, niggas that really been outside and, you know, know a lot of, you feel me? Bro, niggas get a lot of niggas and... been robbed, you feel me, like even artists,

a lot of your favorite artists been robbed, you feel you know, so a nigga don't really be taking that shit to heart, you know, I know, I know killers at them to rob, you know? For sure. So I don't even be...

And a lot of times, you won't hear those stories until people are in their 40s or 50s, and they'll do a Vlad interview and they'll just... Yeah, and then I got my chain stone and it's not really like, you know, they just accept,

this is part of the game, you know? It's part of the game, so I don't really be tripping on that shit. Right, definitely. And so did you just, like consciously stop making music or did you just get kind of in a different mental state along the on the long. I never, I never stopped making music.

Like I always made music for therapeutic reasons. You know what I mean? I mean, it might be times where I think I might have a writer's block or whatever, you know. But I never really stopped making music. Now, as far as like just being on the internet and things like that, I did kind of take a break from that. Just because I was really trying to get my real life together. I was really trying to get my circle together.

I'm losing people. Just from situations motherfuckers that I'm just falling out with and I'm losing people like you know in real life like you know people dying and shit So I'm trying to just like really keep my sanity You know I'm having a lot of shit going on all It's hard to think about like how you're gonna be the best version of yourself. It's gonna have this pop and music career When you're also like basically fighting to keep your mental health in check because you're dealing with someone's bullshit right? Mm-hmm And then at the same time like I said like

Like, I got niggas that's doing a whole bunch of dumb shit, you know. And then also other niggas that weren't really for me me that's really throwing me underneath the bus at him, like throwing me up underneath the bus. So I'm trying to change my image, you know? So I'm not getting drawn into that shit. Like, when they throwing me up underneath the bus, I need a motherfucker be looking at me pulling me up. Like, man, this nigga, hell no.

Right. This nigga that got his nails painting, he's skateboarding and shit? Nah. Is that, okay, that's interesting though Because like, we've seen a bunch of rappers Who come from like a more street background Like young boy or Cardi Who then at a certain point

Once they become more successful Start dabbling in the nail polish And the face pain or just doing different types of shit You feel like that kind of happen to you too? Like I said at first I was doing it initially like on some like Just master the sky shit You feel me?

But as I did get into it I ain't gonna lie It did turn into me, like, kind of using it as a way to express myself. Like, on one hand, I used to put, like, all the names of, like, people out of lost, you know? And then I put, on the other hand, all the names of people that I just love, like, that was close to my heart. Who I felt like I was doing this shit for, you feel me? So it did kind of turn into a way of me to express myself. How many of them you have to end up covering up?

You mean? Like, the people that you love. Are they all still people you love, or is it anybody that you fell out with? No, I ain't gonna lie. Like, my hand of people I love majority of time to be my siblings. Okay. Yeah. You ain't fell out with any of them because I've heard about that happening a lot too.

I mean, you know, we all have like moments with our brothers and our sisters, but, you know, that's always going to be like, those always going to be my hearts. Like, I haven't like. Definitely. Yeah. So along the way, are you just not seeing eye to eye with your label or how's that going? Um, I wouldn't say I wouldn't see an eye to eye with my label. I would just say me and my label was just both in a growth development type stage. You know what I mean?

Me and my label was, I wouldn't even say my label, though, because, you know, when you sign to a label, you're assigned a certain team. You know, you're assigned a certain, you know, A&R and the whole team of people, you feel in me, and shout out everybody. It was on my team and wanted to shout out my A&R, shout out of Norway, shout out everybody.

And a lot of times these A&Rs dip off and join another label every year or two, right? Type shit. Did you have that happen? That does happen. Mm. It'll be happening. Half the time when you ask artists why they fell out with a label, it's basically like a key employee gets moved off that label,

and then all of a sudden there's nobody. Like, up until when I left, like, my label, like, nobody on my team had, like, left. Like, you know what I'm saying? So if anybody left, it was after I left. Mm-hmm. Were you just frustrated in them maybe not caring enough or working hard enough to promote your shit?

Because at first it's like they gave you so much money that they really just want to, like, like push you to so that they can make that money back, but then at some point if they lose confidence or just become preoccupied with other shit,

a lot of times then that could just not be the priority. And now they pay you out in increments so it's not like you get the entire thing up front so they could just kind of stop the payments at a certain point. No, no, no shit like that. I could have got my whole thing up front.

Like I told them when I signed like I wanted it to be in payments. That was what I wanted. Right. Which I think is smart because it's way better to have, you know, 100K a year than like a million at once because average kid is just not

going to be able to handle that. Shout out my lawyer, Bob Selection. He's the one who told me that. He was like, 2K, you should split your advancement into payments because like I said, it was over a million. It was over 2 million. That's crazy. And you got all of that? Wow.

And they didn't try to get you to pay it back? I mean, like, I'm pretty sure I did my thing. Do you think that you paid it off through your music or did you end up actually having to give them money? No. I have to give them no money. Yeah.

Like, I mean, honestly, like, down the row, like, I remember they gave me some more money. Really? Yeah, like, for extra music. Yeah. So when did you actually split with them? Last year, when I dropped, scared to low, that completed, like, my contract. Okay. Because my contract was, like, 18, 18 songs.

Okay. And now you're totally independent? Mm-hmm. And what is that like versus being with the label from your perspective? It's cool. I fuck with being independent. Like, you know, it's all up to me. Like, I'm in complete control, you know? So I like being independent. Were they trying to have a bunch of control when you were with the label? Like, were they trying to...

I had full creative control. They never gave you pre-written songs or, like, put you with songwriters or anything like that? I mean, sometimes they might suggest it. You know, they might throw me a little... what do you call them? References. They'd be like, oh, yo, we think you should try this. Try that.

Because I only ever hear from the artists who get the reference tracks and don't like the reference tracks. I never really hear from the artists who get the reference tracks and love it. So they just keep doing that. But a lot of times the dudes I know who get signed, I'll hear songs. And I'll be like, you do not write that song. No, I ain't going to lie. Like, when I was signed, like, I was so, like, caught up in, like, myself and just my talent and confidence. and myself like I didn't want to seem stuck up so I would always like consider it or listen

but I would like really just go do my own thing. You feel like your best stuff comes from you just going off the dome? Were you ever a writer or you just punch in every time? I punch in like I mean I ain't gonna lie sometimes when I'm like really down and going through some shit I might write but most part I just punch you in like right. Damn. So would you say that you were depressed or like going through mental health? health shit throughout all this time or like I mean you because you have all the the broken

heart tattoos and everything like that like is that something that you deal with on a consistent basis I mean I did like I did have a time where I was like going through a lot and I guess that I mean you can say it to person I mean I don't know I don't like to say that word but I was down and it was hard and tattoos was a way of me expressing myself like again like I ain't go like there was a time where I really didn't even even really liked myself. I ain't want to look at myself because a lot of shit that was going on in my life and the people I was losing, I was, you know, feeling like it was my fault. You know, I was feeling like it was all my fault. So, it, like, kind of made me hate myself a little bit, you know? So I was just, like,

I'm just torturing myself in a sense, you know, just putting myself through that pain, getting tatted, you know, but all my tattoos mean something. Like, you know, it was, like I said, also a way of me expressing myself, you know, deep meaning in a lot of this shit. Right, because I mean, something extremely good happens to you, and then all this bad shit starts happening to you, and bad shit starts happening to the people around you. And even if it's not like a super direct link, you have to feel like this is perhaps caused by the star that you are now. Yeah, it was, you know, a lot of direct links and a lot of non-direct links.

And, I mean, the game has kind of even changed a lot since you got assigned now, because everybody's obsessed with fucking TikTok. you didn't get on from TikTok. You got on the old-fashioned way, which is getting your fucking video on World Star. I mean, or just doing this like dope performance, organic, yeah. And now everything feels like it's happening online, TikTok, shit like that.

Like, do you feel like in a way the game kind of like moved past you and it's sort of awkward trying to get back to where you were at before? No, no, no, no. I wouldn't say that at all. I feel like, like I said, for a point in time, I wouldn't put in my all. into the music shit like honestly like

I was had a lot of other shit going on so you know that's what just what was going on you know but I ain't never like lost track of like how this shit go like not at all yeah now that you're

like fully back making music well how long you feel like you've been back at it now the past a year or so like I said I've always been making music but as far as like consistently putting out music like trying to like really put this shit out and keep going and letting people know like I'm still here.

Like I say like shit six months. And maybe? How's that been going? Is it ever like frustrating because you feel like maybe the fans have moved on to different artists and shit?

No, hell no. I feel like my fan's still here for show. I still got a million months who listens on Spotify, you feel me? Another million something on Apple and everything else. So they, like they ain't left.

Like they're just waiting on me to like, you know, feed them. That's all they're waiting on me to feed them. But it is like a thing in rap that people are always kind of looking for like the new artist, right? And it's like in rap especially, it's like you only get to be new once. And then it's basically on you to show and prove through just making great music.

And grow from there. Thanks. That's what it's all about. Strong grow. Definitely. Okay. Like, what is your relationship with G. Because you had that one song where you guys were dressed up as old people, right?

Mm-hmm. Was that the beginning of the relationship or were you fucking with him before? that because you said that was one of your favorite artists too. Hell yeah. Shit, our relationship began, I can't remember if it was before or after that, but it was definitely around that time. But, I mean,

shit, like, he cool. Like, you know, we've been a kid a couple times south side house, we kicked it one time. Feel I mean? Whenever we run into each other's love. Feel me? Mm-hmm. Have you ever connected with the Jack Harla? Yeah, yeah. Me and Jack tapped

in, like, shit, like, not too long, like, while he was on, like, while he was blown up and shit, he had a show back home. I pulled it up, you know. He said, what's up backstage? You feel, me? He was the, his T.G. was the, you know, what's it been like seeing Jack Harlow become this

fucking international sensation? That shit been crazy. I ain't gonna lie. Every time you do something new or something crazy, whether it's a song or go crazy, like, when he had the movie, you know, I hit him, tell him that shit's dope, that shit's crazy, keep doing what you doing, you're putting off for the city. You know, I ain't a lot.

definitely put no off for this year. That shit's crazy. I realized the shit was real. Two incidents, actually, is that one time I was in Compton and some random 40-year-old woman asked me for my Instagram, and I told her my Instagram, and then as I was walking away, I heard her shriek. Oh, my God, he knows Jack Harlow.

That was a weird moment for me to be like, holy shit, this lady in Compton gives the fuck about him. And then also the KFC meal. Nah, yeah, that shit was crazy. I actually don't know what is up with the KFC meal or if there's anything different about it, whatever but I never tried it I just saw it on the side of the road and I was just like oh that's it must be a big deal it was crazy when you did that I didn't know my team

that's it was crazy definitely how well do you know ESTG I mean shit like I don't know I don't know I'm like that like that but we know each other cordial we're doing this thing too he put on for the city too like you know he definitely put on for the city good guy um so do you feel like the the Kentucky scene or just the Louisville scene Is it blowing up right now? Do you feel like you started a wave or that this is like something that's really happening? Shit, definitely blowing up.

I ain't gonna lie. Well, shit, Jack and G. Shit, like I said, right before they blew up, I blew up. Before I blew up, Bryson blew up. So it's definitely music scene, definitely in Louisville right now. A lot of motherfuckers tapped in.

You see all the young people trying to rap now because they actually have... Everybody been rapping in Louisville. But they have like a blueprint now. I was like, oh, I could be like them, right? I wouldn't even say that because I ain't gonna lie. Louisville niggas is Louisville niggas, bro. Like, they still sound like Louisville niggas.

You hear me? And that shit hard. Like, they need to tap in. Like, I'm waiting for another Louisville nigga to blow up and really go crazy and do their thing because there's so much talent in the city. Like, no, but, I mean, of course there's Louisville niggas that's on their melodic shit.

You know, of course there's Louisville niggas on their drill shit. But there's Louisville niggas that's doing all type of different music, bro. Like, shit's crazy. like a lot of talent. You ever get motivated to make drill type music, or are you over that shit? No, I don't know. I ain't never really made no drill music.

I ain't gonna lie to you. Every night and then, I ain't gonna lie. I might think of a few bars in my hair. I'd be like, damn, that shit's no hard, but that shit ain't really bad. But you can kind of say that shit over more melodic beats, right? Like some drill shit?

I mean, the hardest line you ever thought about saying, you could probably say it over a melodic beat too, right? Yeah, I probably could. But that's the, like, that's just not, um, like the drill shit. It's not really my. There's already so many people doing that. I'd be trying to, like, use my position and my talent to, like, you know, really make music that can have a meaning and speak to people and make people feel the type of way.

Yeah, it's a weird concept to be in, like, an expensive-ass studio with a dope producer. And then when it comes time to rap, you start thinking about your ops. This is kind of weird, right? I mean, shit, work for a lot of niggas. Like, shit, that's what they do. Like, you know, shit. You know, what's a lot of niggas? They work for them.

That's she hard, too. I listen to drill music. I listen to drill music. But I don't make it, though. But I listen to drill music, though. Who influenced you that made you feel like you wanted to make more pop-style music? Or do you prefer to say, like, emotional or melodic music? Like, do you think of it as pop music?

Like, when you say, like, the melodic shit? Yeah. Or you're saying, like, pop? I mean, I don't know. Do you think of it as pop music or do you think of as just melodic hip-hip? Melodic. I just think of it as melodic. I feel like pop.

I kind of went pop when I did this song on marshmallow. I was like, that was me going pop, you know? Were you in the studio with him or did he just send you something? No,

we was in the studio. Okay. We're definitely in the studio. He cool as fuck on you. What was his songwriting process? Was it like normal shit? Just a different style beat or how do you think of it?

What? His songwriting process? Yeah, like just making a song with him. I mean, shit. He's just being that bitch cooking up. Like, you know? Just being that shit in him of cooking up. Like my producers

just be cooking up, you know. I mean, when I was in, I was, you know, coming up with little lyrics and shit, he was in, like, right there with me on the mic a couple times while I was singing this shit. We was just vibing, you know? I'd be like, man, how did he sound? What you think, boom, boom, more.

He'd be like, oh, I like that or not. You should say something different type of shit, you know? Definitely. Was it weird to not be able to film because he probably didn't have the helmet on? We were filmed when he had the helmet on, though. Oh, so he had the helmet with him. Yeah, it was with him.

I tried it on. My ain't a lot. I try that motherfucker on. I was like, man, yeah, this motherfucker. Biggest head about fell over. I went to a party the other day, and there was a guy DJ in with the marshmallow helmet on, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't him.

It didn't seem like a big enough party for it to be him. Shit, man, it probably wasn't there. I don't think so. Yeah, it probably wasn't there. I watched a video about who he is, too, and I didn't recognize him. Yeah. Now, I ain't going to lie.

When I first walked in the studio, when I first walked in the studio, I didn't know, like, who... Because the mask was just, you know, the helmet was just, boom. They all right there. I didn't know who was, you feel me? But then he introduced itself. When you think about the future of your music,

like what angle do you see yourself going in? Do you feel like what you're doing right now is the move? Do you want to make more like big pop-sounding records? Honestly, bro, I don't know what the future holds. Honestly, if I could say what it holds, I would just say it holds me building a fan base that's going to really just follow me and whatever I do.

because I do like making different genres of music. You know what I mean? Besides what I've been putting out, I like to make different genres of music. So I want to get to a point to where I can drop this type of music for a month or two, you feel me? And then drop this type of music for the next two months or two. And it's all just hitting the charts.

Like it's all just... Do you like country? I have not made no country. You're from down there too, so it might be in your bones deep down inside. I'm trying to think that most country song probably ever made was Ohio River that Sam Cook remix

We interviewed Munna Ike from Oblock And he told us that he likes Morgan Whalen They actually listens to his music Outside of just the song that Dirk did with him And that made me think like Oh fuck like That song he did with Dirk was hard though

Oh yeah great song But it's like one rapper Fucking where the country dude Could potentially turn his millions of fans Into country fans It's kind of crazy Fex Like you ain't lie

I mean Dirk Dirk and Morgan Williams don't sound that different on that song. They, like, fit decently well together. Yeah, it blend good. I ain't gonna lie. It's not like an awkward country sound and rap song. Hey, there, you ain't got that muffled. So where do you stay at now?

Right now I'm in Houston. Houston. How'd you end up out there? Shit. Just out there. Mobbing with my people shit. Mobbing with my people. You just have friends out there already or what?

Nah, I've been moving around with mob ties and rap a lot. Really? How did you get tapped in with them? Shit, honestly, she did you hit me up. And shit just went out there. Niggas just been working. And this was after you became independent? This is why you were still signed.

My, this is after I was independent. Damn. It should have been fine. Yeah, what's it like being? Would you say you're signed with them Or you just connected with them? No, we're just working Mm-hmm

Just working What's it like rolling around With dudes like that As opposed to being on more of like a Official label like Warner I mean shit They still official too They got a lot of business going on

They're a little bit more connected To the street part of the music world, right? Yeah Yeah I mean like there's probably nobody from Warner that's going to like accompany you to a fucking dice game like the way that those goods seem like they're just savvy I had um

motherfucker bear I'd be needed this motherfucker boy I'm not you gonna be on my eye Honeycomb Brazier or finesse two times They both hard as fuck They both hard as fuck I ain't a lot to you But you tapped in with either of them Are I tapped in with you either of them

That's like the great Texas rivalry of 2024 I tapped in with Phinez. I fuck with Finesse. I fuck with Finesse. I fuck with King. Hell yeah. Fisle of Fennas, gang.

Definitely. I haven't tapped in with Brazy, though. I fought with his music, though. His shit hard. Yeah, he's great. I mean, he got fucked over in that situation. He's rolling out with security. And now he has a Fed case

because the security weren't officially registered or some shit. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. I hate to see that shit. That shit said. Imagine that happening to you? Like fucking, when you hire security, you just assume they're on the up and up, right?

He's just going up, you know? Huge. I hate to see that shit, you know. And he was dealing with this shit over something that apparently wasn't even his fucking fault at all. That's crazy. Okay, so what do you think the rest of the 2024

is going to hold for you? Shit. Next, I'm about to drop my song I do. I'm about to drop my song I do, but I feel like I ain't going to lie. It's going to be like one of the biggest songs in the world. Really? Believe it that much.

I ain't gonna lie because it's just it just speak to like everybody bro like everybody can relate to that song like everybody can relate to being down like I don't know not one person that's just whole life just being up just happy at all times and don't even know what it feels like to be down to be sad oh yeah so I definitely believe in it that much when you have a song that you're 100% believing like that does it kind of make you feel like you should be with a label or be with a big label or whatever because that's kind of what they do is if you have a real bang or song they can make it really blow up right or do you feel like you don't really need that kind of support at this point you can just do it independent um i mean i definitely feel like i can do it independently you feel me but at the same time you know i'm just about what doing like making the best decision for me you know like it's all type of different deals and contracts and different situations you can be in with labels or you know right so you know whatever comes to

about, you know, whether I like it or whether I don't like it, I'm going to do what's best for me, you know, and if it ends up me just staying independently, then that's what's going to be, you know. But I believe in my music, though. So I'm just focused on getting my music out. It's the only thing I'm focused on get my music out. I don't know. Because I feel like since I signed, there's never really been a point in time where since then I was just put my music out. Like I said, right after I signed, it was just boom, just so much. to write.

What rappers do you consider your actual friends throughout the ups and downs people that you actually really talk to and actually trust? I got a lot of friends in the rap game. I'm probably not going to remember all of them right now off the top of my head.

I fuck with Louzae Osama. Shout out of Zay. Fuck with DCG. Losea Osama has a fed case of his own. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Free Zay, bro. I fuck with DCG, Sean and Sad. Yeah, shout out to them.

Yeah, yeah. fuck with them boys. I fuck with Sean. Sean Kingston. That's my dog. Sean Kingston. Trying to think, who else,

bro. There's a lot of people I fuck with, bro, but right now, top of my hair, I probably can't remember everybody. You know,

I fuck with a lot of different people in the game. Definitely. I'm just not no, I'm not no internet person. Like I said, even just with all of the real life shit

I got going on, like, I never been like just a, when I link with niggas just, oh, pull my phone out, let's get this pick to snap it up. Like, So that's why it's just so much shit people don't know about me

Because I ain't ever been on internet person I'm just like kind of in their mindset Well I'm like you know what I gotta put aside my feelings And just focus on the business side of this shit And I know with the business side of this shit And I in the game is all about content You know, it's not just about how good your music is

It's just about them falling in love with you as a person Right And the only way they're gonna do that It's about knowing about you You know what I mean They can't know about you if you not Being on the internet and letting them know what you got going on.

Right. You know what I mean? So, but I wouldn't letting that shit be known because I had so much shit going on. But do you like that side of it of, you know, I still got shit going on?

Talking into your iPhone and posting it on your story and shit like that? Or does that come natural to you or is that kind of a stretch since you kind of came up more off the music? I mean, shit.

It's, it's, I wouldn't say it come natural because, you know, days when I do it, like, it's because I'm focused on doing it. Like,

I'm like, all, let me get him content today. You know, let them know what the fuck I'm doing, you know, but on a regular basis, bro, I just be living, you know? Like, you feel me? Like, even when I seen you, I ain't, come on, Adam, we'll snap it up real quick.

You know what I mean? We'll take photos. Yeah, I know, but I'm just saying, I ain't, you feel you? Like, I ain't, you know, live, like, oh, man, no jumper. I ain't, you feel me? Like, you know, just naturally I just be living, bro. Yeah, I'm always balancing the two, because sometimes I'll, like, have a rapper on here.

We talk for two hours, and then we fucking go and hang out for 10 minutes, 20 minutes, talk out there and shit. And then I'll think, like, why the fuck did I not put it on my story? That's what I'm supposed to do. It's part of my job is to promote these interviews. I need to, like, get a fucking iPhone clip of us hanging out. But instead, I was, like, actually being a person and not thinking about my fucking internet personality, which is great.

It's just, like, two different things. Like, a lot of the happiest people I know are people who are not pulling out their fucking phone all the time to put shit on this story. They tune into the real world, you know what I mean? But, you know, I don't know. There'll be some people, though, too, like, it'd be seen. They just be monotone as hell, just chill as fuck. But when they pull that phone out, that's when they come alive.

True. You know? But if it worked for them, that's what worked for them, you know? Yeah. That's how a lot of content creators are. I'm always torn between tailoring my personality to the times, which is like pure social media versus, like, being an actual person. Yeah.

But shit, niggas like us, bro. We got to do that shit every day. That's our job. Yeah. So, definitely. So you got, like, a full project. coming out soon or is it just like a video? No, I do.

I mean, my song, I do. That's coming out, video with that, boom. But I do got a whole project, like, just ready. Like, I'm ready to give it to them. I'm just ready for the right time, for the right moment. You know what I mean? Whether it's right after I do, or whether it's the next song after I do is Highway, whether it's after Highway.

But I definitely feel like within the next three drops, there's going to be one of them. Definitely. Yeah, man. I wish you the best of luck because the music is definitely one thing that seems like it's stayed pretty fucking consistent because the recent shit that I heard sounds really good too.

Which was, I don't need love. Just all the recent videos that I was watching and shit. And then going back to the old stuff and I'm like, I feel like you really have been steadily improving. No, that's a lot of growth, bro. But I'm gonna be 100.

Like the music that I've been dropping lately being the music for my core fan base that I know that I built off old streets which is a pain shit. You feel like me. Like a lot of the new music that's, you know, a lot of growth and different shit

that you never heard from me wouldn't even expect for me to make. I ain't put that shit out yet. You know what I mean? I'm just trying to do this shit right. Definitely. You're trying to like warm the fan base backup with the shit that you know that like. Yeah, I want to feed my core, my course, because they deserve it.

You know what I mean? The ones who've been here, you know, the million monthly listeners on Spotify who still been here and the other million on Apple Music and others, they still, they deserve it. So I want to give them 2K baby fans what they want, you know what I mean? And then we can get on to the new shit. Who do you think of as like the great? Pain Rappers of all time. Greatest pain rappers of all time?

It's kind of a weird distinction, but we all know that it's a thing. Damn. Right now, I'll say right now in the game. I ain't gonna say it all the time. Okay. But right now, like, shit. Of course, Rod Wave.

I say Rod Wave, bro, because his paint music go crazy. I like Friday. Really? Interesting. Yeah, I love Friday's music. Yeah, he's super talented. Hell yeah, he's hard as fuck

Um shit after that Pain No cap No cap is hard You go hard with the pain shit Yeah Is young boy

Up there Yeah Yeah But I only reason I say young boy Because he makes so much Other shit too You feel me And no cap makes a lot of other shit too

But Most of his pain shit I feel like go to craziest We never really got to find out What happened with No cap and young boy Huh They went to war on Instagram

at one point and then we never really heard anything after that, I don't think. Shit, I mean, from my perspective, bro, I'm assuming it was just probably just some real just brother shit, like, just, you know, brothers go at it type of shit. But No Cap signed to Never Broke again and then we never really like saw Young Boy do almost anything to promote him, right? If I remember correctly, bro, I still be seeing No Cat's music posted on like the Never Broke Again page and shit. That's probably like the people who work there.

I don't know if that's Young Boy directly. That's one thing that I got from them beefing online is like, oh, no cap feels like, like young boy has not done anything out of his way to promote him. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I never looked at it like that. I never looked at that.

You can't have this conversation, honestly, on camera because you got to be cool with everybody. You're a rapper. I genuinely, like, never really just thought about that shit. I never really thought about it either

until I saw no cap putting it like that. I thought like, you feel me, the never broke again page if I'm following the right page, the right official page or whatever. the fuck. I'm assuming shit. They're supposed to do shit. It's just

good. Yeah. That's good. If you can make a song with one rapper right now, who would it be? Oh, shit. One rapper right now. Who would it be? I'm probably going to make a song with Post Malone. I feel that.

I'm God. My three-year-old watches the Post Malone NPR, Tiny Desk concert like every day. He sounds so good, acoustic. I want to do one of them. He needs to put out on an acoustic album. I was just about to say that. Yesterday I just told myself, well, I was talking to my nigga Alex who played a guitar on my song.

I just dropped, I do because we were shooting the music video for the song. We was outside. You feed me just with the guitar and shit and with homeless people and shit. But I told him, like, bro, we should put out on an acoustic project. Okay. I made like two songs yesterday while we was outside just freestyling on the guitar. I was like, boom, I got to record that shit. Yeah.

That would be hard. Yeah, Postmillan's one of the greats of this day and age. Yeah, definitely want to do it on post, though. Oh, God. Definitely. All right, anybody want to shout out, or anything you want the fans to make sure that they check out? I do is going to be out, I believe, Friday. That's February 2nd, right?

I do is going to be out Friday. So, y'all be sure to type in the I do. Second quarter, that's my project. I got coming out. I don't know when I'm going to give that to you. That could be two weeks from now, too much from now. Family, so y'all be sure that we be waiting on that. And yeah, appreciate you for having me on here, bro.

Definitely. Appreciate you, Gene. 2K, baby. Born in the year 2000. Yeah, born in the year 2000, that's where they come from. Everybody would be thinking it's from, like, the game 2K, which I am nice on. I don't know if anybody won't work, we can play for 5 bands, 10 bands, whatever. Dan's know what's up.

Really? You're nice like that. He started putting money up right away? Bro, I'm nice like that. I never played it. You got to play 2K? No. Damn. I ain't gonna lie. Just talk to Ronnie

Yesterday, bro. He about to put my skin in, bro. Really? Yeah, bro. I got skinned in there like a year or two ago, but they never got put in the game and shit at me high. I called him yesterday. Bro, I called him yesterday. I ain't gonna name drop, bro, but they put somebody in the game. I called them like, bro, are you fucking serious?

I said, bro, are you fucking serious, bro? Y'all put this nigga in the game and y'all ain't put me in the... I want to be GTA 6, baby. Doesn't that sound like a rapper name? TTA 6, baby I ain't gonna lie that dude Nowadays, so many crazy names, though

I was about to say, yeah, but nah, don't sell crazy, nah. Names nowadays, so many crazy, yeah,

but they're going up. It's a lot of hard and they just, you know, being consistent with content so that's what it's about. You still fuck with listening to,

like, younger artists, or are you kind of zoned out not paying attention to the- what you mean, like up and becoming artists and shit?

People are coming up and... No, I'd be listening to a lot of, like, you know, artists that's not like the biggest artists in the world

or shit like that. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to say to a lot of different artists. I ain't going to lie to you. A lot. I'm good. Definitely. All right.

I appreciate you, man. I appreciate you, brody. Glad we finally got to sit down. Hell yeah, me too, bro. We had to knock this out. I don't go overdo. For sure. I'm a believer.

I think you're going to blow back up this year. Hell yeah, bro. Like I said, it's just about me really wanting it, bro, and really, you know, putting the work in, you know? Like, focusing just on the music, not letting my real life shit, you know, get to my. my head and make me want to, you know,

veer off from that shit and veer off from my fans, you know, because they deserve that shit. Definitely. All right. 2K, baby. No jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. Check us on YouTube, TikTok, and Patreon, Instagram, etc. Like, comment, subscribe. Nojumper.com if you want to support.

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