No Jumper - 2Slimey on Working at 711, Oklahoma City, His Insane Sound, Mosh Pits & More

Episode Date: December 27, 2025

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No Jumber, coolest podcast on the world. I got my man Remo with me, and today we got the epic interview of the moment. Hell yeah. Too Simon, buddy. The dude himself too slimy in here. Wiping the nose already. Sheesh. What's the word, man?

Bullying, bully, you feel like me, just chilling. Working, working all the time. How old are you becoming to L.A.? Actually, I've been here since COVID time, so I've got family out here, so I be, or in-and-out type show. Definitely. Wow. So is L.A.

like a second home to you or you wouldn't go that far? Actually, now, yeah, because when I first got here, it was a weird vibe, you feel me? Because I'm from Oklahoma. Flatlands,

slow lifestyle type. But now, I say second home for sure. What's the stuff that stands out to you the most, though? Just the pretty girls walking around

in their gym wear. I say the environment, like the mountains is shit because Oklahoma don't got that. You feel? Yeah. That's the weird thing about L.A. It's like,

you got this. dense city and all this culture and business, and then you can drive like 20 minutes and you're at the beach or you're in the mountains or you're whatever. So you kind of have access to everything at once. No, no, that ass. Everything's around here. Yeah. So let's do the childhood first. So talk to us about Oklahoma. What was like growing up out there? Oklahoma, I feel like, like I said, slow lifestyle, really countryside. But if you live in the city, I mean, it's not much of a different, low key, but slow lifestyle. I say some cool calm shit for it. What were your parents like?

They're cool people. I mean, we're from Mexican. They're from Mexico, so you feel what I mean? Type shit. Definitely. I feel like you being an eccentric Mexican is a big part of the appeal. They like seeing one of their own who's down to do his own thing. Type shit, yeah, I feel like, honestly,

there's a couple of Mexicans in the game, but I feel like it needs to be more a wider variety of Latinos and this underground shit type shit. Definitely. So what was your home? life like though you guys have money or you're kind of broke no no I just my parents came from Mexico migrated to the USA feel me just making away really uh-huh yeah so they're kind of not doing so good but did you have to like get a job at a young age or anything like that yeah I had jobs

yeah I had hella actually I worked at a restaurant I worked at a grocery store I worked at a 7-Eleven oh so you're doing all type of gigs trying to figure it up 7-11 last for like three days I quit that What was wrong 7-11? I just didn't f***. I couldn't stand the people. I ain't gonna lie. There was some crack hits. Just a whole lot of characters I can't deal with in 7-E11.

So when people think of O-KC, you know, people just think of like basketball team and shit. Like, so for everybody else, like, what is OKC like? Okay, see, it's cool. I fuck with it. The city's getting bigger now. I want to say back then wasn't that big, but it's slowly getting bigger and bigger. Yeah, but growing up, I was a Chicago Bulls fan, the 2011 team. Yeah, yeah.

Joe Kinoa, Carlos Boozer. So there's no, like, differences because, like, you Midwest? Yeah, I say. All right, where Midwest City? Midway, no, I was, I was, there's a city called Midwest City. Yeah, and in Oklahoma, that's where you're from, though, right?

Yeah, I'm from, yeah. But did you live, like, in the city, sort of, or did you live, like, off in the, in the wilderness? I used to in the city, it's in the city. Okay. Yeah, so, like, outside the city, outside of Midwest City, that would be like a 25, 30-minute drive, so it's not really that far if you think about it.

Yeah. But was it cracking in your area? Was there anything going on in terms of like, you know, street business and stuff? I mean, yeah, there's a whole lot of takeovers back during the COVID era. That shit got crazy. Unks was popping out, you feel me. Mad shit. Break down to takeovers because I heard you talk about it before.

Yeah, no. So, like, what they'd be doing? Like, just really, like, shutting down the street, parking lot mainly. Yeah. It's going crazy. Fights breaking out. People getting drunk. You know what I just, you know what I mean?

Do you want to see the Instagram reels all the time? Yeah, yeah. They just find themselves a little cul-de-sac and just run each other over for a couple hours. You was partaking in that shit Or you just I was there I was just bobbing out Just by taking the vibes in

But nah I didn't really whip it like that Ain't know When did you start to get interested in Like I mean Explain your musical journey I want to say What I really started was 2016

Around that time I was mainly into like early Like some boom bad Joey badass Pro era shit You feel I was doing that for a minute But like a year and a half

I knew that shit wasn't going to work out because, you feel me. It was cool. It was cool. Nothing wrong with it, though. I ain't going to lie. I was a big fan Capital Steeds going on, that type of shit. Then I moved on to Perp, pump, all that shit, X. Like, yeah, that shit was turned.

I was going to say that you're kind of like the little pump with the moment. All for you think so? Kind of. Yeah, he's fine. Yeah. I think I'm just me, really. Maybe, like, the earliest iteration of a little pump when he first came out, and everybody was just like, yo, like, I'm.

I don't know what the thing of this kid. I feel like you are kind of having that moment. But with you, it's more about the music. With him, it was more about like, yo, is this kid really taking Xanax like that? Oh, my minute. Yeah. So you was on your boom-bab shit at first?

Yeah, early on. Because you said, A.S.Rockey, too, was a big inspiration. Yeah, oh, yeah, for sure. I was listening to Whiz. I want to say a little bit of currency. Word. But yeah, that type of shit. And yay, for sure.

Mm. Yep. Definitely. Do you listen anybody at a local? Was there anybody making music that you kind of knew? Or locally? Nah, uh-uh. Nah, not locally.

I don't keep it a buck. Really? Yeah, because I'm about to say, like, how's the music scene out there? Like, there's studios out there for you to go to? Like, where would you record in that anyway? I recorded at home studios. I prefer to like to work alone, like by myself in a studio at home.

And I come to an environment. Because I was never the type of person to have 30 people in that whole 50 people party going. Now, that's not. I don't do that. But, yeah, there's studios out there, though, for sure. Yeah. There's studios out there for sure. So you kind of like move out of doing the Boombab stuff to making stuff that's a little bit more sound cloud sounding.

Is that what I'm getting? Yeah. If you put it that way, kind of yeah, but yeah, type shit. But that was a long time ago. That was like nine years ago. If we're talking 2016, 10 years ago. Yeah. And that type of shit.

But like I said, like I went from that pro era to like that little switch to the pump era. Then I stopped for a few years, like two, three years. And I picked it back up and like, I want to say like 2020, 21. And I saw Yeat take off. That shit, I'm like, I'm like, damn, okay. You feel me? I'm going to start taking this shit for real. I'm going to start paying to get on shows, this and that.

What about Yeet re-inspired you to be like, all right, let me take this serious? That's because his sound at the time was crazy to me. That shit was like something else, for real. I explained it that way, yeah. Yeah, because, I mean, the majority of SoundCloud rap, like, you have moments of, like, really sort of distorted bass and, like, weird sounds and shit like that. But really, musically, it wasn't like that out there.

You know, like certain people were pushing it and shit, but people like perp and pump were making kind of like traditional rap. They were just like kind of simplifying it and doing it about their life and shit like that. But like, then by the time you get somebody like, he's really like going out of his way to push the genre and like really push boundaries and kind of see what's possible. And then I really look at you as kind of like the next step of like a person who's really willing to like with the music and just try.

anything yeah no hell yeah I was I used to I still listen to some minor threat here and there too my oh that's sick yeah influence for sure and who uh you know they're the founders of straight edge yeah no yeah yeah yeah i mean mackay who went on to also fugazi so fugazi yeah also rights of spring is an amazing band that he had for a little bit and they had like one album was really good yeah yeah i seen where you say you listen like queen and shit too yeah oh yeah queen yeah queen yeah brett america he to go for you listen to the queen greatest hits it's like unreal that this made all these songs. Because they're so different,

it's so hard and so crazy. Yeah, the crowd control is insane too. Just look at them live. Yeah. That shit, that shit nuts. You watch him,

you want to grow a mustache? Nah, I want to mustache. That would be it's OD. What's your facial area situation? Like, you got to shave a lot? Nah,

I don't really grow hair a lot, but when I do it, it looks not too big, you feel me? So I just cut it down, you feel? It's not my thing, tight shit.

Just curious. Yeah. For sure. So look, people've seen all, you know, people seeing the ground right now It looked like it's overnight, but you said you've been rapping since 2016.

Yeah, 2016, 17. Yo, for sure. And I want to say last year, shit started taking off. With shrimp. With shrimp. Yeah. Because that's when the first time I think I've seen you on the map, like, because everybody, it was on some meme shit and everybody was kind of like putting you in that meme category.

How do you feel about people trying to label you a meme rapper? I ain't like that shit, I first used to get to me, but now I don't get to fuck what people think. Yeah. Because I'm going to do me regardless. It's like, I don't care what the next. next man think like him you got one lot to live why the hell would you trip about that but like nah to this day i'm not a mean brother i'm for real about this side yeah yeah yeah about this shit like this is my shit like i can't really forget the game but in a good way like we're gonna take this shit

to the next level like yeah i mean i guess like a lot of people like make music like some people make strip club music or like booty shaking ass music some rmb is like pretty clearly meant to like to, you know, King Vaughn was making, like, straight killing the soundtracks. When you think about, like, what a person would be doing while listening to Too Slimy, what would you see a person doing? Shit. Cutting up in the freeway, you feel me? It's going crazy, moshing at shows.

That's what it is. Nice. That's what Too Slimy music is. Really? Yep. So you already think of your music as kind of being designed for the live experience? Yeah, I feel like it's been. I feel like it been.

It's just like, yeah, it's okay. So crazy, like to say it's like control noise then, man. Yeah. Yeah, but you feel me? Because, like, I was watching this Drake interview that he did, like, eight years ago, six years ago. I forget what it was. But he was basically saying that, like, from touring and playing these big ass stadiums

and arenas and shit like that, that just completely changed his mentality on music. It makes sense. Like, you know, once you get used to playing live, like, you know, you kind of want to make music to fit that experience. but like so like when you play live how long do you play for? Oh on stage? Yeah. I want to say 20 minutes, 25, 15 average.

Yeah, type of shit. What do you do you like already have a set list of the exact order of the songs? Is it just like one file that plays or? No, it's a set list. Yeah, for sure. Oh, got. Intro. Just going crazy after that.

Mm-hmm. Well, so all right, so shrimp. All right, let's bring down shrimp. Where were you at when you shot that music video? That music video is shrimp. I was in Atlanta. Oh, that's Atlanta? Yeah, I was in Atlanta, yeah.

We shot that, yeah, because at the time, I shot some shit with Yopo Jiji at the same time frame. Yeah. So we knocked that video in Atlanta though, for sure. Where, so how did that song or like, how did everybody start catching on the shrimp? Well, shrimp, to be honest, bro, like, like you said, people took it as a joke. I didn't even view that song. I was like, you was shrimp. Like, I did the trilla.

I paid like two or three pages on like Twitter. then that shit just took off like a snowball effect and that shit yeah that shit crazy hey shout out smoking score though I feel like in Wild Kauna

those are early influences too that made me you know what I mean so you just hit up like a Twitter page like what kind like an underground type page or yeah yeah

and did you tell them like hey write this like do you remember what the caption was I did tell them so I forgot what it was honestly but they didn't put what I told them to say You know, we just did the own thing.

Yeah. Okay. Because was it like kind of emphasizing the meme aspect of it? Because I'm trying to think of like what the most viral caption would be. And it would probably be something like, yo, what the fuck is wrong with this kid? Like, it would probably be like something that made it like, yo, you got to watch this because this is some crazy shit. But I don't know if you would have necessarily written that caption because you're like not really trying to be viewed as just like a freak show. Nah, there wasn't no caption like that for real.

Yeah, it was a crazy time. Do you know smoking school? Oh, yeah, I chopped it up with him. Yeah, yeah. I got his number, yeah, for sure. He's a cool dude. Yeah, he's mysterious. For real.

Yeah, I ain't, I'm seeing him for a minute, but I ain't really get the chop up with him. But I was interesting that you just mentioned his name. Where's the inspiration behind that? Y'all friends or? No, I just like, I saw him rap on those TDF beats, those crazy beats just like. Also the sound in a way, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's like ear candy to me. Like, I don't know, it clicked. clicked and then like i took it my own way like i took expressions from minor three the punk bands hardcore punk bands and added my own twist to it like a fat fast pace up tempo shit yeah that makes sense damn your edm i want to say yeah because like i watched a video that some kid made about your music and he was kind of comparing it to like really extreme metal or really extreme hardcore edm in the sense that like it's a lot of people don't like it it's kind of alienating to some people but, you know, there's always going to be an audience for people who want to kind of see the genre be pushed as far as possible.

Yeah, I see that for sure. Yeah, the EDM shit. How are you locking with Yopalja? Really? I hit them up way before this other, before shrimp took off. Yeah. I feel like everything was lined up perfectly. Everything, for sure.

So right time, right moment type shit. What's your attitude on your lyrics? Like, are your lyrics, do you think that people should be able to understand? understand your lyrics just from listening to it? Yeah, no, I feel like, if you really, I'd be saying some shit, because there's a line I said, smoking the art of choke, she knows the art of choke, like that's shit crazy. I feel like people don't even, don't even catch on it. Like, come on.

Like, I'd be saying some shit. I mean, you definitely add a lot of vocal effects and shit that may get a little difficult to tell what you're saying, but is there like a database for your lyrics somewhere? I mean, there's some shit on genius, but I want to say it's all wrong. I feel like, I need to fix that. Are you writing? Like how, yeah, what's the recording process like? I write sometimes, but I freestyle same time.

So it's 50, 50 half and half. Mm-hmm. So you got people in the studio with you in the crib or you buy your Dullo? Yeah, Dala, always been, you know what I mean? Always. I was never that type of person. I have like 30 people. But if I do have the, it's the homies, it's the homies.

Yeah. Yeah. Even like, could you know when you come out to LA and shit, you get probably the labels and pressure you to go to the studio and shit, you just have like the homies in there. Not having the girls come around and record in front of them. You ain't doing that yet. Nah, hell, not for the guy. Not yet.

Not yet. Nah. What kind of girls listening to, Slimy? I don't know. That's a good question. Have you met them in real live or? Oh, yeah, I met a few. I mean, it's normal people, you see me?

Hmm. Yeah. Damn. I just, like, want to know what chicks are going to be, like, front stage, front of the crowd. You got to pull up to the show, I ain't going to lie. Yeah, I'm trying to see that because, like, I do, as soon as you say, like, that the music is meant to, like,

Mosh at the show that just like makes me think Oh that must be a crazy experience Live. Yeah. I want some Cardi shit for sure. Mm. Like how violent do those sort of mosh pits get? Like are people really getting f***ed up?

Or is it more of like a friendly push pit vibe? I want to say a friendly push pit vibe but people do elbow each other sometimes here and there. But it ain't like, it ain't like fights I want to say going on in there. I don't think so. I don't think so.

If there was a fight, would you stop the show and tell them to chill out? Or would you just? Yeah, we stop in that game. Just like, let it keep gone. No, we stop in that game. But that's, that's, that's aura. Like, if people are beating the f*** out of each other,

like really up the vibes. Yeah, well, it depends, though. He's feeling, how crazy that shit is. Yeah, I think ever since the Travis Scott shit, and he's like, you gotta make sure everybody's straight on stage now. Yeah, that ass, that's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, definitely.

Where did the two slimy name come from? I wanna say, like, I said this before, but like, I had a big friend group, and back in, back in school, You feel me. A lot of wishy-washy, uh, fake friends. Really? Yeah, I had a big circle, but I narrowed down three people, and you feel me, I had to cut them folks off.

So I had to get too slimy type shit. So what, do you feel like they were around you for fake reasons? But this is like way before you blew up, right? I want to say they're around me like, not supporting. Not supporting. They were just there type shit. Yeah, not real friends.

But when you say supporting, like supporting you in a way with your music or just like, just like, just on. life in general. A music. Yeah, life in general sometimes. Yeah, because before this,

I always was into music, but before this, I wanted to be a basketball player. I was so determined to make it to the NBA. Got to high school, six, five folks. I knew it was good.

Oh, it. What position you played? Point guard. Point I, for sure. You just love the game so much and you just knew it wasn't possible? Yeah, nah. Coat, man, coach was rough, man.

I say that. Yeah. Damn. Yeah. Because you've got to be like top 1% in high school to even make it to college. And then you've got to be top 1% of college to make it to the league. Like that shit is a heartbreaker. When is your basketball running?

What was it? When did your basketball run in? Like when you stop playing? Oh, I want to say probably high school. All right. So that was over after that. Yeah, yeah. Nah.

I'm cold with it, though. I ain't going to lie. I've seen you telling you playboy Max that the other day on stream the other day. I'm cold. At the Hyperpop Daily, they put me in for 30, not, five seconds. It wasn't even no showcase for real. But next one, I'll make sure. Who team was you on? I forgot. It was a Dave Blum's was the coach. Six, seven kid was on the team. Oh, yeah, yeah, all right, for sure.

I don't know. Mike Broke's fuck was on the team. Other than that, I forgot. Dude, the six-seven kid actually, like, break his leg? Nah, it looked like everyone thought he got hurt and I mean broke his leg, but I think he ended up being straight. He hit his chin and some shit, right? Yeah. So, yeah. Because I seen him, like, outside when we was leaving, he was all right. Dave Bluntz walking in there like a king. Yeah.

So there's so much swag. Just a legion of people, like, following behind him. It was just a pure icon. What's the two-slimy attitude on women? Are you, like, single playing the field, or you got a girlfriend? Right now I'm single, you feel me? But we respect women out here, though. Ooh, yeah.

Bars. All the time. Mm. So this whole time, Like, when's the last time you had a girlfriend? Are you not that kind of guy? Do you aspire to be in a relationship? No, I don't really aspire to being in a relationship.

I'm focused on myself right now. One goal right now. That's it, a ton of vision. Just 100% focus on the music? Yeah, we ain't got time for no girls, bro. No time for that. Definitely. Yep.

But are you sampling what's out there in terms of, like, you know, random bops DM in you? I mean, I had that, but you feel what? We'll see what future holds, but, you know, I allow my women thick. All shapes and sizes, though. Right. I don't discriminate.

Do you speak Spanish? Yeah. Would you ever speak Spanish in a song? Damn. Maybe. Maybe we'll see. We'll see. Would you get on a song with Bad Bunny?

Hell yeah. Of course. That's the one, right? Yeah, bad bunny. Would you just fit in on his style song, or would you make him get on your style song? Because I could see this really going two very different ways. I want to say I'll fit in his style,

but I'll bring him to my work. real two type shit. Hmm. Yeah. I've seen you be critical of six, nine and shit. Like, you, you felt like, uh, I guess he didn't make Mexicans look good in a way.

I think, I forgot what interview I was watching. How do you feel about his comeback now and shit? Because you said some things about him before where, like, you wasn't really feeling him. But now it's seeing like, he's kind of like getting a wave again and people kind of like tapping him with. Honestly, I don't think I ever said that, but,

uh, six, nine. I mean, he's cool. I mean, that's his thing, you feel me? He wanted to portray. something. I think that's how you said it was like the way he portrayed it or whatever. That's his own little problem you feel me. At the day.

That's on him. I guess he's a cool dude, I guess. I mean, the whole question with 6-9 is like are we going to just shun someone forever because they told? You know, like are we just as like a people just like because clearly people like him and care about him and are

interested in what he has going on? And I think this year people just kind of realize like, you know what? We're gonna be a fan of this guy again. No, yeah, because I feel like some people that be in their lifestyle, they'd be snitching, they get away with it, and they don't get the same shit. Six-nine got, but Six-N-Nine got some hits, though. I ain't gonna lie, he got some hits.

For sure. There was a debate. They were saying, like, who's the biggest Latino rapper? And he was saying it's between him and Cardi B. And little pump. And then, I guess, Fat Joe. Who do you put out of all them? Oh, who would you just say, like, you felt it down,

for Latino is harder than anybody. Damn, that's a good question. I have no idea. Too slimy, really. Yeah, hell yeah, too slimy, yeah. I'm focused on that. Lil Zan. You were never down with Zanarchy?

Lil Zan, the rapper? Yeah. I was in. You miss out on that? I mean, I knew he was. I was never fan of that, I'm going to be honest. Lil Zan took over the world for a little while. He was like the headline of, like, the news every day

for like many, many. many months there and then all of a sudden just disappeared. And yeah, he's a cool dude though, but you don't hear much about him now. So outside of like shrimp, what's on you for like everybody's gravitating towards the most? I want to say bring them out. Bring them out. Bring them out. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, bring them out. That's my favorite so far. No, actually, I got some unreleased shit, but bring them out. It's one of my favorites that are out right. I fuck with that. Oh, you football vet? Yeah, that's your all right. Yeah, that's your beat crazy.

Yeah, right? So where are you going to get your beats? Like, where does two slimy find his beats? Who's making these beats for you? Like, you got your own personal camp of producers. I almost say I got three people in lock. Uh, Vlor 5K, he's from Belgium. Where?

KX. He's from overseas. I don't know. I forget where he's from. And then Bites from the USA. Yeah. Three. Oh, so you got three main producers.

And then how did you lock in with them and discover them? Vlor, he reached out first. And I just really like, just listen. I'm like, that shit got my ear. Okay. I fuck with it. Like, this. instant gravitation.

And same thing with KX and bike. Yeah, they reached out type of shit. Do you feel like it's important to have like your own like group of producers and shit? Because like when Yee was coming up, it seemed like he had his own wave of producers and then they had like crafted this sound and everyone started like trying to highlight his producers and shit. And it seemed like you got that going on with what you got with your camp.

Yeah, no, I feel like that's important. I feel like if you have hella producers, I feel like you want to really find your sound or mold it right. Yeah. But I feel like small the better, and yeah, that's for sure. Yeah, they help me build up that sound. You feel like you got copycats already? You're a jacking your shit.

You probably know more than we know. Copycats? I mean, nah, I don't think so. I don't think so. You ever, could you make a song without autotune or any effects in your voice? Yeah, I could. Would you?

Would I? Maybe. I don't know, I don't know. Word. I don't know. We'll see. I mean, like, Could you imagine yourself doing a project

where you just with like a lot of different styles? It feels like you're kind of locked into a style right now. But like could you imagine yourself like really just with it and just trying a bunch of different shit on one album? Yeah, maybe. Type shit. It's a big decision. Yeah, that is a big decision.

Yeah. Don't know really, but yeah, maybe. A lot of rappers kind of go their whole career doing like pretty similar shit. But like I've seen a lot of like bands over the years they were like made really crazy-ass metal or whatever and then they just do like one single with like sort of clean vocals or whatever and then they're able to just have that be like a big ass hit that's kind of what I was thinking when I was watching your shit I'm like he's gonna build

up a crazy-ass fan bass like this and then one day he's just gonna hit him with like a hit that is like this but just his own take on it I don't know I could just see no hell yeah no I can see it I feel like I did that before already though with the vet with the vet song I got shit in the vault that's crazy in that lane for sure. Really? Yeah. How are you logging with your management team? Managing team.

Hey, shout out Josh. Shout out in the circle, you know, in the building. They're family. They're real family, for sure. Yeah, now they'll be moving around. I'll be seeing them around. Hell yeah. You was at Floating World last year or?

Yeah, no, yeah. Floating World last year. I did plenty of shows of Floor and World. Right, right. Yeah. I feel it, I feel it. Shit, what would you, how do you, how do you, how do you? How are you a Max, Linkle?

How he reached out to you or something shit? Oh, play with Max? Nah, I saw him reacting. Then I hit him with a tweet and like, yo, let me hop in the bull. What song was he reacting to? Oh, damn. I think it was, I think it was me. I don't remember.

I were. I think it was me. Because he reacted to a few, a couple. Yeah. Yeah, no, that shit. That shit was crazy. Shout out Max. Super good look right there.

Yeah. And he just had you pull up. And, like, what was it about? his mic that you didn't like that made you want to replace it with yours. I feel like that mic was so high quality. I feel like you can hear me breathing. Like I feel like I can hear my heartbeat damn near. I wasn't with that.

So I had, you know, switch it out. And like, to be honest, I'm not really hit that much into mics. So I didn't know that was an AT, 2020 or whatever. I just audio technica. Let me slap that bitch on. I've been doing that for so long. Yeah. I ain't switching up my working, my process.

Mm. Yep. Definitely. Do you ever make music off your phone or do you skip that stage? No, I did. I did Garage Band for like a solid year or two. Then I switched to FL. But I'd be editing on Garage Man though. Because I record an FL and I send the raw vocals to Garage Man and I just chop it up with my finger. That's time consuming, but that's my way. Right. No, definitely. Do you punch in when you're recording most of the time or do you prefer to like just kind of go for it?

A little bit of both. Okay. A little bit of both. Because you're saying you're like moving around yourself. Do you just like kind of freestyle and then just put it all together? Yeah, yeah. Mumble the melody that the words. Oh, okay.

Interesting. Where are you all living out now? You still staying okay C or? I'm moving. I think I'm going to stay out here for now. Oh, or you're going to L.A. L.A.'s the vibes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What's your lifestyle like out here? What should mean like? Like, do you're trying to be? be outside around the people all the time or you kind of posted up in the crib or just recording like what's your uh a little bit of both i'm trying to be outside at the beach you feel me mountains hike you come y'all got everything out here yeah disilland that shit crazy no definitely but i mean as a rapper it's kind of like a weird decision because it's like you could either sort of like overexpose yourself be out there at every single cool popping thing or you know

you could kind of just stay posted up in the crib it's like you know a lot of people have a hard time figuring out the right ratio. I don't know. I feel that. Yeah. What's the two slimy turn up like? We've seen you hit the blunt a little bit, but like what's your mentality on having a good time?

Really? I don't really drink. I smoke occasionally, but I'm mainly trouble-free. I want to say special in the studio because when I'm really fried, I can't even record. I can't even think, for real. You've had that experience, where you're just too gone? I was too fried.

want to, I tried it before too, and I would wake up the next day and then be like, damn, this shit is ass. I wasted my time. So never again. Too fried off what? Just weed? Yeah, weed, I want to say. So you don't fucking want to have pills or anything like that?

Nah, uh-uh. Nah, no pills. If Cardi passed you a lean cup, would you hit it? Oh, hey, hey. I'm all hitting that shit, gang. Nah. That's Cardi, fuck, right? Going off Mali, all that.

Yeah, just hitting the cup ain't going to do nothing. You got to hit it, like, a lot to make it. do something yeah you never drank a lien before uh yeah i took a sip before okay too but not no crazy shit didn't not something you really wanted to pursue no not really yeah trust me it's not it's not a great idea if you start you don't have to stop at some point because it's hard to have a healthy life off of that shit no how did you get on paying for promo because like a lot of rappers early on they don't they don't think of like i'm on spending money my money and invest in myself they think that everybody should just support them

and, you know, just post their shit. I feel like, wait, my phone. No, no, you go, like, how did you get that mentality or business mind? Like, you know what? Let me promote my shit. I feel like paying for promo. Like, it's not a bad thing.

I feel like, if you're going to do, if you're going to pay for promo, you got to do it the right way because you can't, you can't just say so-and-so artist dropped a new song. Yeah. Scroll, you know what I mean? People are not going to care.

I feel like you got to do a certain way. You market yourself a certain way. But I'm not no promo demon. I'll say that. Yeah. Now, they bug it. I don't really pay for promo, and be honest.

The last time I paid for promo was shrimp era. But you don't have to pay for promo now because everyone's already fucking you. But how did you know that have that mentality of like, all right, when I do pay for promo, I have to make sure it's something engaging

and not just no boring-ass shit that people are going to scroll past. Honestly, I want to say when I started seeing people post trailers, like short-term, short-form content, you know what I mean? Post it up, doing a bathroom outside.

I feel like that's way better than just like a picture. Yeah. For sure. So what was your first, I guess, chance of you live? I'm actually going hard and make an attempt with this promo video and, like, do something out of the norma instead of just rapping it, normal?

I want to say, damn. It was last year. I want to say when I was doing some tricks. It wasn't a specific song. I feel like every time I did a trip, I wanted to do something, something crazy to catch the eye, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah.

But bounce it out with the cornyness. You know what I mean? I'm not trying to look corny at the same time. But yeah. Now, the promo shit is super strategic, though. You got to like... No, you got to do it right way or else you're just wasting your money

at the end of the day, you feel me? What pages were you tapping on where early? Oh. For somebody who's trying to rap and get on your level, like, who would you... It was really Twitter. I forgot the pages. I think it was a...

I forgot the names, I'm gonna be honest, but it was one of those pages on Twitter. And there's no management? This is just you, just like... Just me. All this has been no label push, just me. I'm not signed, nothing, just independent. Word.

Yep. But you've been doing all those meetings with labels and everything? Yeah, recently, recently. But you know what I mean? You got to come with a bag in a day, you can't me? Boy, they ain't coming with enough of a bag yet? We still waited. We still meet with more labels.

We fin to see. Okay. Yeah, type of shit. But are you in any kind of rush, or do you feel like you can kind of take your time? I take my time because I've been doing good so far. Like, ever since last year, I feel like people barely paid attention as soon as I dropped the body of work. Because I really, if you look at my page, I really been pushing and going crazy for a good

minute. Yeah. We actually were on stream and like Diddy Bob or whoever, Diddy Bob and Gio showed me your music. And like I was blown away. And I don't know why, but the clip is titled Adam 22 says the two slimy is better than Young Thug, which I don't really remember saying that, but apparently that's what I said. Hey, that's a strong statement.

Hey, why not? Thug. Thug needs to step it up. Thug need to be like paying attention. It's too slimy and like thinking about that. Would you sound to a rapper though? Would you sign somebody like Thug or Cardi? Yeah.

Yeah, opium for sure. What? Opium for so. So that was like the goat to you? You're a huge Cardi fan? Cardi of your goat, man. Hell yeah. Dialing Eric Cardi, a whole lot of red Cardi.

Crazy. You know, for sure I could see you over there. Yeah, opium for sure. Shout of them boys. Did you know Maxin? Maxx. Oh, yeah. We just chopped it up here and there.

He's a cool dude. He was real chill dude. R&P, bro. Yeah, R&P maximum. Man, that's crazy. That's crazy. That's shit. I feel like life's bigger than this music shit, end of the day, because you never know what people

going to do. Exactly, right? Yeah, shit. That's why I was throwing off, because like, every time I seen him, he was just chilling and shit. So, like, you would never expect that. Type shit, no, yeah. I chopped it a few times with him. He was a good person.

Who, uh, who do you fuck with in the underground scene and shit, or have relationships with? Uh, I fuck with my rogous fuck, you're cool dude. You cool dude. Salmose. Shout out, bro. Yeah. My homie, one man Jay, he'd be rapping. He's cool.

Oh, right. Yeah. And, yeah, a few people. Who's some artists that you don't want to work with outside of the underground? Like, if you could get a feature or do some songs with. I want to say, I'm trying to work with Osama's son. Somers and Shay, too, they five. Wait, right, where.

Yeah, I fogo both of them. Was it? I focal both of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Somers don't go crazy. No, yeah, they're fine. Do you care about being a mainstream rapper, or would you be satisfied just being viewed as like an underground legend?

I'm trying to go mainstream. Really shit. I'm really trying to go mainstream. Yeah. That's the goal. Yeah. Breakthrough. What do you think is going to take you to that next level?

That's a good question, man. I feel like we got to make shit more digestible for the people, for the average year because you feel me. I feel like people still don't get the sound. Sometimes you're here and you're like trying to figure it out and then like when you get it, you get it, but then it is probably like hard for people to like get at first. Yeah, I want to say for me,

I feel like either you get me heavy or you don't. Yeah. But you know what I mean? And when you say more digestible, like just like you're talking about sonically? Sonically, yeah, I want to say that sonically, yeah. But is that like hard for you to like make your music more palatable

or like pull it back a little bit or maybe like with your vocal kit and like make it so that it's like a little bit easier to understand. Is that like something you like to do but you like to do it slowly? Yeah, I feel like that would definitely f*** up the creative process but I feel like as an artist who got to grow

you feel me? So experiment for sure. I've been experimented but I feel like maybe we've got to wind down that a little bit. But you feel to see. It's like your fans have a version of you that they love. but then if you're gonna bring in new fans or if you're gonna even just keep those fans interested you kind of need to like grow as time goes by like I always been real interest in Laserdim and like you know you see him like sometimes stepping away from like the style of like recording that he does

but kind of feels like he's not necessarily really trying to like switch it up like he's just kind of satisfied like staying where he's at no I feel I feel like that's teach his owner Yeah, it depends who you are, but I'm trying to go mainstream game. Yeah. Trying to go global. I mean, shit, you've been doing it for nine years, so you want it. Yeah. Like, why did you stop during those two, three years before COVID or during COVID?

I don't be honest. I don't know. I don't know. I just, I don't know. But when I stopped, I feel like this shit was calling me back, you feel me? Like, like your ex, you know, your host calling you back type of shit, yeah. So I picked it up again. Yeah.

But was it like, ah, you feel like it was. wasn't going anywhere or like just life shit happening? I feel like at first it wasn't going anywhere. And then you feel me like music always been part of me. You feel me stepping away that long? I felt like, yo, what the fuck? I felt weird. Yeah.

I felt like I wasn't doing nothing, you know? That type of shit, so. What was the moment that drew you back in? Oh, damn. That's a good question. You know me back in? You're like, I'm gonna give you one more shot. Uh, maybe.

I'm gonna say, I guess the COVID era, I guess. I really don't know. I feel like it just clicked random. You just had more time on COVID and shit? But you quit during, you wasn't making music during COVID though. And that's when everybody was listening,

like, or could have been listening, you feel me? Honestly, but I don't know what made me click. Yeah. I'm keeping it a being, bro, I don't know. It was no more, I mean, I guess yeat, I guess, right? Being a little, yeet inspired. But I feel like when I picked it up,

I feel like that was a little bit, I picked it up already, you feel me? Oh, all right, for sure. I heard yeat. You know what I mean? And that made me like, oh shit, okay. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.

Do you used to go to, like, underground shows, like, before you blew up? Nah, I'm trying to think. Nah, but I did go to the dilate when he had that lit in concert, that tour. Right. She was crazy. And I've been to a juice for a show that was late. I was mainly there for comethicthazine, though. Shout to my name.

It's crazy. He hung it up. Yeah. Yeah, not. He was so sick. I feel like that sucks, bro. I feel like I wish he could pick that shit up again. His new shit, cool, though.

He tried to rebrand. The jazz shit? Oh, yeah, that shit. Yeah. I forgot with it. I'm not going to lie. It was kind of a dick. Like, just being around him.

Like, his music was sick, but, like, he was kind of, like, tough to get along with. Like, he was kind of, like, a crazy person. And that's why it's, like, so insane to see him, like, doing this complete rebrand with the music. But I'm, like, so fascinated. Like, I'm so hooked. So like if he dropped the interview right now, I would listen to it immediately. Like I want to know what the fuck he's doing so bad. How conscious of like preserving your aura are you in terms of like, you know, not necessarily wanting to do every last TikTok, every last feature?

Or are you, do you feel like you're at the point in your career where you're just kind of doing whatever? I feel like where I'm at right now, I feel like I got to move a certain way strategically because like I can't be doing everything. You know what I mean? Yeah. I feel like as an artist, I feel you got to hold some type of aura. Yeah. Yeah. Like the less you do, the more fascinated the fans are, the more that they're kind of on the hook.

Like with Cardi, like, just the fact that he doesn't really give people anything. So anytime they see anything, it's like they're just so fascinated by it. You know, it's like a pretty good relationship to have of their fans, you know? Yeah, Tasha. I feel like that builds the cult fan base. you want more and more and you keep having the weight type shit Yeah

Yeah Yeah We'll be putting your fists together Because like that fit you had I went viral for the other day You had like the shoulder pads And Oh

That was that was Doug man Shout out Doug He fired What kind of shoes was those Like Had the pointy Like cockroach corner

I don't know I don't know What type of shoes But I fuck with the feet I thought I thought That shit was Yeah

But I'm just saying Like Where do you get your inspiration From Like when you dress and shit Like That's a good question I don't say a little bit of yay, a little bit of Cardi.

All right. I can see the yay, because it kind of looked like the yay video when, I guess him and was that Y&W Melly or was that the pump? It was like when they got- Oh, with the shoulders? The shoulders, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a crazy fit that one via the other day that kind of reminded me of that.

No, yeah, I see, I see that, see that for sure. Yeah. That was during the era where Kanye was like a full-blown porn addict. He was like talking about porn all the time. And then he just went full God mode like right after that. He's like hanging out a little pump and smoke perp. And then he's like, nah, this shit. I'm with God now.

That was a crazy chapter in his life, dude. Yeah. What's your relationship with Navon? I seen he was he with you at Plet Boy Max? Yeah, he was posted up. He could do that. Yeah, Navon, real one. He's funny his hair.

That must, he's shining in your videos? Not yet, but we're going to get something. I got some. I'm about to say, if Navon's in the background, you're cooking up. You can get signed in, yeah. Yeah. We did an interview. That shit going to come out.

Oh, sure. A show. A show. A documentary type shit, yeah. Oh, sick. Oh, yeah. What's the craziest cosign you feel like you've gotten so far? Crazest coson, damn.

I want to say, uh, anything. Uh, I want to say, maybe the needle drop. I forgot the needle drop. Yeah, yeah. Just the album review that he did? Yeah, the album review was crazy. But that's the craziest one, honestly. It's funny because, like, when he did the rating at the end,

he like distorted the rating so you couldn't read it. Yeah, I see that. You had to kind of guess like what he was getting at. He rated a nine. That was a nine? Yeah. Really? To me, it looked like a nine.

I don't know. I thought it was a six, but I didn't really look at it that good. That's ill either way, yeah. It was a non-buck. Yeah. Shout up, bro. What about like rappers? Anybody in particular reached out that kind of blew your mind?

Oh, actually, young bands reached out a while ago. Yeah, shout up bands. Let's see who else. Purp, he tests me recently. Oh, shit, that's sick. Cool. Yeah, shout out, bro. Yeah, I want to say bands, perp.

I don't know. Who else, though? Yeah, what's your relationship with your, with the internet like? Like, you know, if you, like, when you're getting a ton of praise from the internet, like, does that really, like, make your mood way better? And, like, how do you feel when you're kind of getting negativity from the internet?

Does that f*** up your day? I feel like when it comes to hate, I stay away from me. Early on, I did fuck up my day. I did fuck with me, but now I just stay away from the internet. I mean, from the hate, specifically off Twitter. I really hop on Twitter a lot. But I'll be peeping.

I'll be people in the support. That should be fine. Yeah. If you're not read comments? You don't really read comments. You don't really read them anymore? Not a lot. People few, but I don't even go deep into that.

I'm like, I'm talking my phone. Do you ever see that, like, a video you was going viral on Twitter and then not engage at all? Just like not read any of it. just be like, damn, it's viral, that's crazy, and then just not read anything? Yeah, that type of shit, I'd be on. That's big. Yeah. What would you say to a kid out there who was thinking about taking their own life?

What would you tell them? I feel like, I feel like everyone got their own con. I feel like going that route is not the way. Honestly, I feel like, just hold on, twin, hold on, game, you feel me? You're going to get through. Yeah, but I feel like everyone got some calling to do something. So, yeah, that's what I think. I bet you just saved at least one life.

Hell yeah. About that. For real, for real. Hell yeah. I guess, yeah, so what are you, like, thinking in terms of your career right now? Like, are you, like, what moves are you trying to make? Are you trying to go on tour? Are you trying to, like, sign a label?

Like, what's the stuff you're most focused on? Right now, we're getting bigger and bigger. More exposure, more exposure right now. feel like it's going mainstream is the goal really bigger than ever right now. Rolling loud too soon. Oh shit. Yeah, we know that. Hell yeah.

Yeah, I feel like you're going to be known as like the dude who has the insane live shows. He's like that. Hell yeah. That's a good reputation I have for sure. I need to see that. Um, shit, Rima, anything else? Shit, uh, what's relationship with Wafa? Oh, I'm feeling about?

Yeah, because that's... Who is here right now. Who is here in the corner? which is a legend and I'm like bro y'all pulled up together I'm like come on like yeah I saw it i was like damn why i'm really here bro shout out bro yeah now that's hard so y'all management with each other and shit like yeah i feel like we just made though oh we just met just made oh oh shit okay yeah so like this this is my homie this my manager right here oh hey oh nice that's what's up yeah you're a real legend stamped

Stamps. Nah, that's crazy. Yeah, we had a lot of podcast appearances in the back of the bike shop back in the day with him. That's crazy. Hell yeah. If you could do a feature with any artists,

who would it be? Any artist? Damn. That are alive or just? Yeah, alive. A lot? Yeah, got to be alive. Okay, down.

We can't dig nobody out. All right, alive. Damn, any, any artists. I mean, probably Cardi or yay one of them hell yeah one of them

for sure if you did go with the dead person who would have you man gotta be you're on Michael Jack Mike Jack or Freddy Mercury

bro oh yeah that's hard I'm gonna with that Freddy Mercury on one of my beats to go crazy yeah I saw somebody commented like imagine Tupac on this beat that shit

that's a crazy just like ever. Yeah, nah, that's a crazy comment. No, for sure. I feel like,

I feel like you, you do future, man, everybody fucking with it. I feel like, by the time next year, everyone's going to be like, yeah, my fucking new.

Y'all, you was on the song, bro. Hell yeah, hell yeah. Know that, know that. Come on, man,

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