No Jumper - 41 (Kyle Richh & Jenn Carter) on Inventing the Notti Bop, Asian Doll, Sha EK & More

Episode Date: May 8, 2023

41 talks about their rise, group dynamic, the industry, their influences, and more! ----- 00:00 Intro 0:05 Adam introduces Crew 41 and they explain why Tata didn’t show up, 41 describes how they met  1:00 Kyle Rich and Jenn Carter talk about being African and having a connection to each other 3:00 Jenn Carter talks about growing up as a tomboy, being considered one of the guys and not getting treated any different  5:00 Flakko asks Jenn about guys hitting on her, and she corrects Flakko immediately  8:40 Flakko asks Jenn about reactors and trolls saying they were going to assault her, and how she views reaction channels    10:10 Crew 41 on when their music started to become big, Adam asks about the song Deuce and choosing that EDM beat  13:50 Flakko praises Tata’s growth as a rapper, crew 41 talks about his energy  15:00 Adam talks about Kyle Richh being a star, and says usually there’s one star in a group, linking up with Asian Doll and talk about her GoFundMe 18:00 Flakko speaks about Asian Doll calling herself the Queen of the Drill Music, Jenn talks about being picky with beats  20:10 Flakko asks about the beef with Sha EK, Kyle Rich claims the beef is over and don’t remember why how it started   24:00 Crew 41 on wanting to spread positivity in music and Kyle Richh explains more about making N*tti B*p , 41 calls out Adam for doing the dance 26:40 Kyle and Jenn say close friends have been leaking their music behind their backs, the consequences to those responsible, Jerry and Moe 32:30 Adam asks why Kyle Richh has two H’s in his name, Flakko asks about other crews dissing them and Bubbas channel getting shut down  35:20 Kyle Richh speaks on getting in a fight at a college, says he never got any jewelry snatched 38:30 Kyle Richh on his parents making him go to college, making music instead of going to class, Jenn talks about taking breaks from college to do music  43:00 Kyle Richh speaks about new rappers dissing them, and not acknowledging them, meeting other Nigerian rappers  48:00 Flakko talks about Afro Drill music and asks Jenn and Kyle if they would use that style  50:00 Kyle Richh says he’s inspired by Chief Keef, Playboy Carti, and Michael Jackson, calls himself a rockstar 54:00 Adam asks who surprised them the most by reaching out to them 55:30 Jenn and Kyle give their top 5 best rappers, saying rappers like Kay Flock, S Dot, and Dougie B 59:40 Flakko asks what’s next with the music and signing to a major label ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey, everybody. Welcome back to No Jumper, coolest podcast on the world. I'm in here right now with my man Flacco, as well as Kyle Rich and Jen Carter of... What was outside, man? It's a fucking movie. La Grogabum. Let's go. What brought you all together as friends early on? Before the music and everything. I ain't go to lie, we just, a bunch of young people, the same dream.

Oh, yeah. Once you brought that together and realized we're stronger as one, we ran with it. So even in the beginning, you were focused on music, or what was the dream early on? I mean, yeah, we was all, like I said, we all had the same dream for me. You all wanted to make it in this music and provide for our families, for me. Right. Yeah, we all had our, like, solo things going on with this music. Like, um, me personally, I wasn't rapping until like two years ago when, you know, we all got together and said, yeah, let's really take this, you know, serious.

Before that, I was really like, with instruments, I used to play trumpet. K'all used to play piano, you know, for me. But this music can run deep. Like, we love this for a minute. Well, Flacco just suggested that y'all were brought together by your ancestry. N'a Jai roots, right? I mean. Nijai.

Nijai. Y'all Pim is that know each other. Jad know that Kari lost, right? What is that? Wait. Oh. You just see it again? Nah.

Nah. He's African too, so he's trying to show. No, no, no. That's what I'm saying. He's saying again. Liberia, though. So it's kind of like a little bit different, right? Liberia.

Wait, though, but I think I didn't know y'all tribe, right? Because. What's my tribe? Because he, for sure, is Yorba. Oh, yeah. You, I don't know. Because it's kind of like, right? How you know how was Yorba?

The energy, man, you feel me? Like, you know, like, just like real quiet demons, right? Like, we got to, like, watch a Yorba. You feel me? Her, like, she's nice, so, you know? So like, I don't know, man. It's crazy because I'm Yeravato. It's a silent demons, man.

Yo, I see what you're saying, though. But do you feel like you have way more in common with other Nigerian people or with that ancestry, then is a lot easier to get along with other people that are from there? Oh, yes. Really? Yeah, because it's like, we just relate. Like, I don't know, it's like a psychic energy. Really?

Some weird shit for me. I don't know. It's a psychic energy. I'm able to tell when, like, people are from Nigeria. I love to be African-in for me. Well, like, for example, right, I feel like in certain Nigerians, though, right? Like, for example, like, the ebos are not really like, you know, like, the best to get along with, right? See, that is evil, you know what I know. Yeah, I know.

I mean, I feel like they're calm. Yeah. Like, I feel like they're one of the calmest, I don't know. Yeah. Well, okay, so this is making me wonder for the first time. Do you feel like, like, first generation African people are like overrepresented in drill? Like, because when I think about the Bronx and shit too, I can't think. I think there's a lot of people with African roots coming out of there as well.

I'm not a lot of Africans. I never thought about that before. We just put it on. You know what I'm trying to say? You just point on. Damn. It's good to know. Okay, so I don't know.

Where should we go from this? The parents. The parents, yeah. What were your parents like? My parents were strict growing up, you know, for me. They always wanted me, like, not only in school, but school on time. You know, for me. I don't know.

just so much rules just made me want to break up. You know what I'm trying to say? Like maybe if they gave me a little bit more freedom growing up, I'd be less likely

to want to be outside all the time, you know, and that's really how I met a lot of my friends so it's like maybe it was a blessing as well. Did they like... Did they like

accept you coming out to them? Or how did that happen? I mean, it's like I would say they're like in denial. Oh really? Like, feel me? but they love me for me.

You always, though, like a tomboyish? Hell, yeah, like, growing up. I don't know, like, my sister, too, like, growing up, like, I just used to watch how she dressed. I loved her, you know what I'm trying to say? I wanted to be her. I ain't going to lie. Like, I love this style.

So, for me, it probably did have an influence on me. Do you guys talk about chicks, like, it's just some regular. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. That's amazing.

Come on. Like, you see me? These her. No, that's a fight. You f***. You f***. But it feels like there's no, like, weirdness at all between you guys in terms of- There's no...

I don't know. I ain't go a lot. Yeah, like, just... See, right. Yeah, I'm gonna be trolling. I ain't go fucking. Everybody knows she one of the guys, bro. Yeah, man.

Yeah, man's doing. He's smart. Say it like a wild comment, though, right? The J' got the whip. Came from my song, Spinning 2. You were weird for me. I said, Jen got the wok. Makes it with spite for me because she, like, lean.

That's why I said walk. But the Fizz, oh, go, they just took that shit with it, gay-slug. Yeah. Nah, so, like, I think it was during, like, in interview, I forgot like with who. You said, bro, man, like, Jen, like, won't let me, like, try out. Oh, I see this shit. Yeah, I'm like, come on. I'm talking about that, that UK nigger, the guys were a swerner.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was just trolling for me. Because I did it ain't, for me, I should just is marketing. Yeah, it's like, the fiss letter. It's really crazy. But the, for me. I've been feeding it to me. People literally call me, like, some people have addressed me on the street as Jen got the Woppa. Yeah.

So it's like, it's grown on me now. So it's like, I don't really see it as what it is. I just, I don't know, probably a signature. It's just been with it since, like, getting their career. Here, Russell, here, though. But like, I guess like, Kodak kind of made it popular, like, to, like, hit on, like, Dykes, right? Stuts, Stats, right?

Stutz. Stats. Is that a slurr now? I mean, it is, it is taking offense. I mean, we're on an interview, you know what I'm trying to say. I don't want you to get no slender, you know what I'm trying to say. Yeah, right, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.

Look, right. So Kodat kind of made it popular now to go after stuff and try to like data stuff. So do you have a lot of like men now like trying to like come at you and turn you out? In real life, no. But on songs and shit, people love to use that for content? I mean, I feel like people who just put my names in songs like, all they got on me is that I'm a girl. Right. For me?

That's really, like every track, like, it's just like either junk out the wild, you know, for me, it's like, but niggas, we over there and we're walking and not anyways. I don't really be, like, shit, a lot of shit don't bother me. I'm just a really unbothered person, you know what I'm trying to say. So, um, yeah, like, but people aren't been hitting on me in real life, like, we, like, we look at that shit is weird, like, real life. Like, all the comments, like, I'll be viewing them as, like, trolls or can't be a real person, Like, you know what I'm trying to say?

Like, that should have just... Would you view, though, a guy as gay, though, like, for trying to, like, like, holl at you? Nah, I wouldn't say gay, because I'm still a female. Yeah, facts, of course. And everyone has their preferences. Yeah. But me personally... No, that's gay, boo.

Because... But me personally, I'll be joking. It makes me uncomfortable because it's, like, for me? Like, it's just weird, bro. Like, me personally, like, you know my sexuality. That's just weird. I do feel like Jen is a... huge star though. So it's like, I feel like you might, we, it's a persona that you might not

have seen in rap otherwise. Because like so many of the female rappers out right now are like using their sexuality and stuff, but I feel like- Yeah, and I'm really the only different one and so they try to fit me. I don't know, maybe just letting me know that I'm different. Yeah. I love it. Can't dis me like how you did somebody else. And that's probably why they do it. It is crazy though, because when I think about Kodak, like I'll never forget where I was when I heard that that lyric. I know exactly. young M.A. along and she got a coochie and I was just like, oh my god, you could say that? Like, you know, fuck. I don't like even that shit even, I was like, I was like,

weirded out for her. It was like, yo, bro. And she was tight at first, but then she kind of like started to roll with it afterwards. Yeah, because it's like for me, at the end of the day, you do, you were born. And Kodak is just such a crazy dude that you can't really expect much, much else from him. I feel like, and I remember I was with ski master slump guard and he was kind turned up, like the day after I heard it. And he was singing it like, it was the greatest song ever fucking written. And that just made me further, like, understand how innovative that shit was. Yo, I've been seeing comments, like, under my, um, like, I've seen this, like, a lot.

They'd be like, what Kodak's at? I see that all the time. Like, oh, yeah, it's wild. Holy shit. Yeah, wow. Yo, here, right? But, like, another wild comment, though, was BMG and upper class, right? Now, while I reacting to your video, bro, I don't even know how, bro, might even conjure up

this thought. Oh, wait. You gotta remind what happened again? Yeah. Like so long ago. Yeah, right, yeah, right. So, and he stated, yo, like the options going to catch her and violent in terms of, like, rapist, like that.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yo, I never forgot about this. Damn. It was, like, on the radar, something shit. But, yeah. What was, like, your reaction to when you, like, heard him say that? At the time, I think we was in Miami.

Right? I'm living my life. I'm like, I don't know, man. I was coming up. So, I don't know. Like, he's a reactor. Yeah, of course. So, um, I don't, like, I don't know what to say about it.

He was reacting. Like, maybe some people just want their clicks. You know what I mean? I don't know. But we spoke about it, though. Like, we talked it out. For me, I understood him. He understood me.

He apologized. We both, you know. We settled it. It's like, I fuck with him now. Do you fuck with all the reaction channels, all the people making videos about whatever the fuck y'all are into or not? I don't really, like, watch my own reactions. especially like popular reactors

because I don't know like it'd be like I don't really care to see what people think like I like my music you know what I'm trying to say I like my music

we like our music I still got a lot of supporters at the end of the day for me that's the reason I keep going so I don't really don't sit down and watch reactions right yeah I don't let that shit get to my head when do you feel like the music really started to

catch on and you started to get views and really felt like you were developing a fan base me personally or or as a group however it went down me personally I was trying to do like my own thing and like drop like music vids with the songs too because it's like I like people having like a visual to when I drop my music I was just dropping just for fun the first song I made

I ain't even want to drop it you know for me people was begging me too I dropped it with a vid K-all was doing his shit for me at the time you know he dropped 41 and freestyle. And that's really, out of all the full one members, that was the song. That was the song that really helped him. It helped him become a better rapper. It helped me help, like, understand his sound better too. And it started going viral. So, for me, from there, he took advantage. And then the full one cipher. It was really what. On the radar? That has, like,

before that. Okay, because I know if you're on the radar, freestyle is like 10 million views. I'm trying to tell you. We've been ragging the views even before this. Like, you know what I'm trying to say? Four much life, that was like me, Dee Gilado, Tata, Jerry West, F&B, side, you know? Right. It was just all four women who came together and made a song. That shit was really the first time we all started flicking as a group. I want to ask about another song in particular is Deuce, which is like one of my favorite

songs of the year. That's a different song. It's crazy. Like the energy is crazy. I normally, I don't like fucking EDM music typically. And I would not, if you describe that song to me, I would probably be like, like, real, like, dance music. basically, you know, techno-type shit. I don't know what you guys would be referring to it.

But that beat is kind of like that. It's super fast-paced and it's like, it gets really intense at certain points. If somebody were to just have told me about it, I probably wouldn't have thought that it was a song that I would love so much, but somehow that beat just like takes the shit to a totally different level. Like, how did you guys end up using that beat? Do you have a memory of making that song? I ain't a lot like, for me.

That sure was fake made with accident. Really? I didn't go a lot of like. I heard the beat for my son, Bento. He sent it to me. And I'm like, nah, this shit is different. But this shit could fake change something. I ain't go a lot because this shit is so different.

If we really jump on this, bro, we could actually do something with this shit, you were? So if I mean, we went to the stool, me and my son, Jen. We had 15 minutes left in the stool session. We made a whole bunch of other shit, but we had the last 15 minutes when he made dudes. It sure was an accident. And you got the whole thing done right then and there? Yeah. I mean, wait, did we?

We? No, no, no, we left the middle part. The middle part open? Real, real love. Don't go out of percent. Like, I'm in love with my gun on my pen. We came back and did that after. Yeah, we did like those four bars, because we ain't know what to do for that part.

It was a different part of the beat. You know what I'm trying to say. We knew it was going to be very, so it had to be catchy. It had to be catchy, that middle part, you know, for me. But that was like a freestyle. I was in a stool. Like, I was a bad, you know, for me. We was just vibing.

This shit went crazy after we dropped it. Yeah, it feels like you guys try to take wrist. to take wrists with your music. Because so much drill music is so boring, right? The shit get boring. Everybody doing the same shit. Like play a song from last year about 4-1 and play something out.

People say we sound the same, but really like pay attention to how much we've evolved. And we ain't even drop, you know, we ain't even drop a lot. You know what I'm trying to say? We got so much in a chamber right now about to go crazy, you know what I'm trying to say. And is it intentional in terms of like making the music better, or does it just kind of happen?

It just happens. Yeah. We really, the more you go to the school, you just naturally, you're going to get better. Yeah. We be in the stool like every day. Really? Me and K.L. specifically, like, this is really our hobby. What's Tata doing when you guys are in that?

I mean, he'd be in the stool too, but like, he'd be coming sometimes. I mean, he's on his own system. Yeah, well. Tata really evolved though, right? Like, for me it's like, to me, like, and he's the one who took, like, the biggest jump, right? Because right now, like, you know, like, he's totally his own, right? But like, here, like, let's just say this, like, two years ago, like, Tata probably was and you know, like the best rapper, right?

Now, like, homily snap and so, like, just like... Tata's fake, big, nice, right? You know, it's crazy? Tata just always been, like, real nice. Yeah, I go, like, he was, like, the first, like... He's hard as fucking out. Let me tell you that story. When he first stepped in the booth, and he started doing his adlibs.

Yeah. And it's like, I didn't even know him. This is, like, the first time I seen it's, like, what, three, almost four years ago. We was all in the stool when we started doing the music shit, he pulled up. He just, can I got out pull him in this... I'm like, yo, and I didn't even have that. I didn't even have that. energy in my rap at the time, so I'm like, nah, he must have been doing this for a minute.

His energy, cheers, this nigger. This nigger. I couldn't even tell he was, like, 15 at the time. Like, you know what I'm trying? He was 15 at the time? Yeah, like 15 times 16. He was young. And now he's like 18.

How is Tata right now? 18? 18 just turned 18. That's crazy, bro. Yeah, he was going crazy, son. But let's not leave Kyle out of it too, because I feel like you got a crazy amount of hype around you. And really, when you look at like a group where you could have three different people, at least three different people in the group who all have like real separate hype around them and then they're in a group, like, that's just, that's a huge thing.

It's a fact. Like, we all compliment each other. It was about to say that. More for all. There's been a lot of groups that kind of blew up that were like one really good rapper and then like the other ones were all kind of mid. And it still kind of works. Everybody's like so different. Everybody, like, even Dee Bill's got his own flow. It's like, you know what I'm trying to say?

That shit gave me every time. K'all got like a distinct voice for me. All that. Just ad libs, not got the lyrics, tauts out of energy, it's so much to it. I feel like I first heard of World One when Agent Daw was kicking with y'all. And all the bloggers started writing about it and thinking it was hilarious that she was clicking up with a different crew of people in New York. How did y'all end up connecting? I commend her for that.

I was just. I commend her for that, you know, for me. You got in touch with her? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Surprisingly, she texted me back, you know. She was bumping a song, like I said, I was just dropping. You know, I'm trying to say, just dropping vids. whatever, doing whatever, since she was bumping one of my songs that barely had any views. I think it was at like 120K at the time.

She was going crazy. Yeah, she was going crazy in a spinner with Ruby Rose on IG. So I slid up, I'm like, oh, like, feel me, that's me. Just get up, like, get up with me, this, that, there. But at first I texted a fake page, for me. And they responded to me. I'm thinking I'm having a conversation. Realize it was fake.

So I texted the real page. And she's still responding. We linked up the same night. All of us. The same night? What went wrong? Why did y'all start kicking it? Huh?

Did anything happen that y'all stop being cool? You still kick it? Oh, you're still cool, okay. Yeah. Oh, okay. I was so confusing. I felt like I had seen you with him in a while. It's an energy different to a person.

I ain't a lot. She don't care what nobody think you were. She's in her. But question though, right? No, nigger. Right, look, so like when she came to the Bronx, there was a whole saga, man. Like, niggas is hating.

Now, there was actually like, go-fund of me, like, started, like, to get her out of the Bronx. Like, why do you feel like people was tight that she was in the Bronx? Bro. Maybe on her dick. Maybe on her dick because I have a prize, bro. Just a whole bunch of stupor. It's crazy.

She don't give a fuck. Like, a niggia asks me. I don't know. I don't know. This shit is a game. You just got to play. How you gonna tell somebody way to be or not? Like, what the fuck?

She just goes on some business shit you were. She's just trying to expand, bro, for me. That's what she's supposed to do as a rap. She did say, though. She was supposed to go to other states and expand. Yo, Asia's just looking at that people think, bro. For me, she did say though, right? She's good, too.

Yeah, she's still good. Yeah, she's in a stool every day, boy. She's really working, bro. But think about it, she comes from a state where there is no dream music, basically. So for her to come to New York, and not to mention her Chicago connects, like, really just, like, joining up with other people's drill cultures. I mean, hey, a lot of people haven't had the balls to do that, you know? That's a fact.

And nobody says not when, for me, when we do, like, when drill rappers do, like, other flows that are not drill. So, for me, you know what I'm trying to. You know what I'm trying to say. Everybody's trying to do different sounds to me. Everybody working. But do you feel stuck in that box so you have to make drill music? Or you feel like you can go outside that?

Who has to make drill music? You tell me? I don't even, for me, really. Do you know my baby? For me? That's my home. But for me... You go past the hour.

I really like... We got so many different sounds. Like, I have a whole singing track. I don't even sing. Tata to sing it. Like, for me, we get creative in the school. It's not only drill. That's what makes it fun.

Right. I'm trying to say, do different shit. But still straight back to our, you know, Original sound. Definitely. But you can't move on though, right? Because, like for example, Asian dolls, like, came to sense, she's a queen of the drill.

And now I'm seeing, like, there's a bunch of, and other, like, females who are trying to, like, claim queen of the drill. I personally think that Jen is the best, I guess, like, female rapper, right? Right, right? Hair, right. So do you, like, feel, though, like, moving on, like, you're kind of, like, giving away that title as the queen of the drill? I like how you said a rapper.

You know what I'm trying to say? Because that's what I really do. I rap. I'm trying to say, it doesn't have to be a drill beat. You know what I'm trying to say? It could really be any beat, like, K.R. be introducing new beats in the school all the time, and I like it, because he know that, like, I really can adjust to different beats. And it helps him too, you know what I'm trying to say?

That's another reason why I don't really got a lot as wrong as everybody, because he's like the only person I can really be. He's really, like, he's really picky with music, you know what I'm trying to say, like, the beats and all, like, I'm not too picky, but I find the vibe in a lot because it's like, I just like the different sound. But, you know, Queen of Drill, that's a nice title. Yeah. But I don't want to be that forever.

Like, I want to be way bigger. I want to be Jen Carter. You know what I'm trying to say? It sucks. Even after I'm Jen Carter to arrive, but I want to be Jen Carter. You know what I'm trying to say. You just found like a mysterious R that you could roll in the middle of that sentence. Yeah, brother.

Look, right. So, here, okay, but let's just, like, rewind for a little bit and just go to where everything started in terms of, like, the drama that's currently going on, right? Where did the Shai E.K, I guess, dispute or beef or, like, disagreement come from?

What I'm going to go to fun, bro. We go all past that shit. We don't care about that. You want to put the ashtray in the middle, sorry. Yeah. What? All that shit is pointless.

All that shit is dangerous. Of course. Yeah, of course. Let me... That shit behind this, bro. That's, like, I don't even be remembering why these beef started. Yeah.

I wish I could tell you, bro. You're just saying that because you've seen them in the park with the blakey? Cool. Shaii K. You didn't see that video? He was bluffing. I seen that shit. The nigga was bluffing.

I thought it was the craziest video ever. I told him those things. And then they were like a stage and I'm like, oh yeah, that doesn't make sense. Fuck. Yeah, bro. The niggas is wacky, where we'll be paid attention to the nickers gang-lo-bo. We just be too focused on us to give a fuck about other people. So much should have been happening in our lives for the past months.

We don't even like be. I really don't be in two with a lot. Like, you gotta hit my phone. In order for you hit my phone, I gotta answer. In order for me to answer, I gotta like you. So, for me, I don't know, well. But when you put out the Nadi Bob, did that make you guys way bigger?

Was that like a huge moment in terms of way more people paying attention to y'all? I mean, we was already big. Nah, yeah. We already have views before that. I would know why people. We had M's, bro. We had MADD's before Nottieb.

But then all of a sudden, you have normal people knowing about you. Notty Bob did take it a little more global angle. That's it was very big. Number one, turning in the world. But, for me, you ask me, fuck that shit, for me. You don't get for fuck about that shit. Can you still, well.

But that's crazy that the video got deleted multiple times and shit when you think there's so many fucking drill songs dissing people and shit. Like, y'all didn't take it down, right? We didn't take it down. It was kind of like scary to think how viral was going. Really? Number one, trending in the world in two days. That shit was walking.

I ain't going on front, for me. We never seen some shit like that before, bro. And it was actually putting a negative image on us. That's the main thing that we did. want to do it. We're trying to promote positivity. Yeah, like, that was a track that was blowed up. We got better tracks. Like, feeling, we didn't come into this shit. Dishing niggas. Every dish is a response. Niggas be on our dick. Yeah, but like, everything happened for a reason though.

Right. You got to still perform that shit live? I don't know, feel me. The fans won it? The fans love it. The fans love it. I ain't going to fun. They be in the crowd. Nadi Bop. Nadi Bop. They don't get up. They'll keep up, let the else. Nadi Vop. Right. It's just so negative, though. Yeah. The world feed off negativity, though, boy. It's just sad how it is. But a lot of the biggest drill rappers are dissing nonstop.

You guys, you'll throw some politics in there, but you kind of try to avoid it a lot, I feel like... I mean, for me, because drill rappers rely on dissing, like, we don't gotta do that for me. We know how to maneuver through that shit, for me. We really know how to write. That's what real rappers do. Yeah. We really try to avoid the politics, though.

That's not what we came in here to do. If you listen to our songs even before naughty about, who do we do? about who do we do? Right. We just making music, having fun, playing the fun back and drill. No party songs. Duce is really, you know, one of those. Oh yeah.

Like the shit you could play in the club, like for me on the way home, like shit like that. My girl got mad at me for playing that around my kid though. Deuce, man. My girl's like, this is not appropriate. Turn the shit off. I mean, it starts with the guys and dad. That's pretty crazy. There's a lot.

Like, you really will listen to songs differently once you have a kid and you listen to rap around them, around them because then all of a sudden, well, especially with my girl. Everybody's not having it. Can we watch it? Yeah. She just not, she feels like the kid can understand every single word that's being said. I smoke. Yeah, me now, man.

I'm cool. You're good. You're good. Yeah. What's your, what's your word? Yeah. What's your eyes? What's in there?

That's all you, rock. That's all you, right? I'm what that is. That's not a good shit, you work. You guys, right? Or kind of right the right, when y'all say, listen, man, like, we are trying to promote positivity. And we ain't dissed nobody before, right?

And that's why I like I asked about Shai K because I think Nadi dissed y'all first because y'all and Shai K was going back and forth, right? Nadi was dick while to Shai K. And he was tight that

for me, Blackwood was on our dick were for me because Blackwood was it was Jack and he was a rat at the time. So I was his reason to diss us. You seen that shit, but he's like, no, who the fuck is this little nigga like? Yeah. Like he did, he died.

So, you know, he's made a song. Yo, yo, right here, right? So it was really, like, interesting as this though. So I guess y'all dis Nadi, because Nadi dissed y'all for dissing like Shai K. And now Shai K is Nadi Bopin. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right? When y'all see, though, that Shai'K was now Nadi Bopping, what was your reaction? About surprise, boy, I think it's Daveu, bro.

He's David, bro. I go in front, like, all that shit is Gordon. That shit is Cody. I don't fuck you go to talk about if I see a nitty bop and I'm gonna slap him and the naughty bop. Like, what the fuck, bro, niggas is the day one, bro? Yo, why is everything about naughty, bro? Well, you made the song.

I mean, you did the dance. No, we've heard that shit. That didn't happen. Did you see though? Did you see though that we really were in a moment of confusion because fucking suspect thought I was talking about that little Uzi dance? And I was like, no, the other dance. And I had to do it.

I see that shit, though. I ain't go a lot, yeah. That was funny, right? I'm not going to lie. Yeah. No, for you, though. It's funny hearing a 40-year-old white guy talk about fucking TikTok dances and shit. That's the thing, bro.

That's what I should have to go. I ain't going to fuck, but we're trying to promote positivity. We're not into the bullshit. Was it trippy to you, though, when they had, like, teachers and cops doing it and shit? Like, how did that feel? Bro, like, that's what I'm trying to show you. That shit was scary to think. Like, I didn't even know we had that much influence.

But great power comes responsibility. That's true. So you seen that? Is that why, do you think twice before you say shit in lyrics now at this point because you know the impact you could have? I've been like, it's been a thing though. No, yeah, it's been, I ain't go a lot for me. Everything is like for a reason, you know what I'm trying to say?

It's not like we just, it's like, we don't be out here looking for nonsense, bro. Nah, man. Jambi be chilling for me, like, she's been the one that's just been chilling, but like, me, boy, I ain't go a lot. I mean, I get mad fast, but sometimes, boy, I don't know, bro. But I try to stop myself because I just gotta remember the bigger picture. Yeah, yeah, but listen, but let's like talk about like the actual music, right? So, you know, who's responsible for all the leaks?

Because the fans, again, bro, like the fans are like detectives, right? So the fans are saying that MoCardy got framed and it was Ashley Jerry West. That's cat. Okay, so speak on it. It was both. So both did it? Yes. Now.

So you had homies in your camp who were leaking music? Yes. Really? I don't know. That's why I got to go. My 50 songs is on YouTube right out. You have to call all the loose sense where actually was scary for me. How are you my men smiling in my face and you're leaking my tracks.

It's crazy because we was complaining about it too. Like we was hurting, bro. Mo was really her man's, bro. Really? She brought Mo around for me. Jerry was really my men's, bro. I was really my man's, bro. Yeah.

He was smiling in my face every single day. Back doing me on a low and I never knew, bro. This shit is crazy. I don't know, should be a coincidence that happened to us though. It would be a coincidence. That's why I say this is my twin. You know what I'm trying to say? I don't know.

Everything happened for a reason. But he was just leaking or he was selling it to people? No, no, no, no. You were for $20. I don't know. What did you want to be trying to do, go? $20? $20?

Not even $20, I think it was 10. So you might have got a G for all 50 songs? I ain't going to front. It wasn't like 50. It was probably like 30. They probably made a cool, $2.50 over that shit. It's just crazy. Can you think about...

Is that worth it? $2.50? No. I mean, imagine, think about how much a song is really really. It's really worth in the long run. Even just the YouTube revenue is worth, you know, a lot. Yo, there's some burnt-out activities, though, man. You feel me?

That's why, I just, I just, for me, I just, for me, it's a lesson you were at that. How did you find out of the love to learn from that shit? I ain't go loud. Like you said, the fans was on some detective shit for me. I got some help for my fan page games for him. Yeah. Really? Shout out the Calvitzp.

For me. He was on that, for me. He was asking the unrelease pages. Where you get in the music from his shit for me? And then they were saying Jerry, but I wasn't jacking it. I wasn't jacking. I thought Mo was framing Jerry. And I was trying to do research to poop.

It wasn't Mo. Oh, really? Yeah, I was trying to freeze. Yo, so when I was just seeing evidence of this shit, I'm like, ew. I look dumb. That's scary shit right there. Yo, bro, it's like, okay, so like, they're, like, so dumb, right? Because I feel like this should have done what Sheik did, right?

Where, like. Yo! What's all? Listen. You're Sheik. That's why sheik is. What the song? Yo, how they know.

Bro, she is a true hustler. You were it for me? 500 for the soul. Yeah, yeah. And he got the 500 and did a second soul. Yeah. That's what you're supposed to do. I would have respected that, bro.

It's crazy because I was next to Sheke when he did it. He told me. You're good. That's why I feel like your Sheik is good, bro. Like, the fans you're trying to put Sheke in that loop, she can do, man. With the hair, but the fans, though, like, feel like you did more, like, like, worse than you did, like, Jerry. Right?

Why? They don't even know what happened to Mo versus what happened to Jerry. And we're not going to let them know. You're not going to, that's it, for me? They don't know. I'll see you like, for me? You can't fuck out of Mo, right? I ain't go out.

I see, I don't want to bring that shit to the media, feel me? Fibbe, look, it's a lot of things that happen behind scenes that people don't know about it. We just going to leave it at that. We can let them think what the fuck they were. Jerry got the. Like, I got the beast, too. Right? What are you talking about, bro?

Yo, what are you talking about me? No, not, right? Not here, right? Because they're saying, like, Jerry, like, got, like, no consequences. And Mo got all the penance. See, for me. I'm gonna just keep it above with you. They're between Moe and Jerry.

Yeah. Jerry apologized. Oh, okay, gotcha, gotcha. But Jerry still got his consequence. Don't forget that part. Okay. We're just not going to speak with that. Mo was on some differences.

He was in denial. He tried to talk about it. The niggas is lying and shit, for me. Taking it to the grave. And that's why I just can't respect it. I'm going to fuss. For me, niggas have to act on that. I ain't go out and stand in business.

We start on business in both situations, bro. I ain't going to front. I just separate myself from the dollars. Man. Nogues not. Like, I ain't go a lot. Because we love them, bro. It's still love, but it's love from a distance.

That's what you got out doing, like, if I ain't going to front, is those the only people you fell out with, like, on account of the success? Or is there other people that have been there too? There's a lot of faces that you don't see no more. that you don't see no more. I ain't gonna lie, though. I ain't gonna speak on it, though, though. Yeah. If you know, you know. Right?

Boy, blockwork. What, blockwork? What, blockwork? What? Blockwork was brought around by my manager, right? Ah. Yeah, he was, like, he was definitely he was supposed to be there. I was telling my manager, stop being that nigga around me. I don't know that, nigger.

But fuck, if it's her dog, why don't fuck without I jacko? I've been telling my manager after me. I never even had a conversation with a nigga. Oh, should never? As many times they burned around. I never linked him ever. Only time I've seen him was on a block. Or out of music vid.

Or my music viz, me he's sucking my dick, trying to be in my viz. Yo, can I get in a vid? I'm if you're by the cause. I'm like, oh, bro, I don't really want this. Like, I'm my viva. Like, fuck it, bro. Fuck it, bro. My manager went it, fuck it, bro.

Damn. Now, though. And he did, okay, so, like, and he did say that when y'all did, like, I guess, was around each other, I think, that you had a fake gun with you. Now, is that, now, again, I would even know like how he would know the gun was fake, but you wouldn't respond to that or no? We don't tote no pops.

You. I don't just leave it out of thought, you were. I ain't go out. That shit is cat. I don't know what they talk about. Maybe the shit was fake. It was fake, you know. We go leave it at that.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Every gun you see is fake, you were. Smart. Hey, smart. I got a question. I ain't a lot.

I ain't go a lot. Every gun you see is fake, though. How do you got two Cs in your name instead of one? I got two Aches, you were it? Not two C's not two Cs. A lot of people do that shit for me. It's not two Cs, where it's two Aches for a reason. It is kind of weird to ask the question and got it wrong.

Oh, no, no, no, right. No, right. You're the first listen I asked me out of thought. Yeah. Oh, okay. But people spell it wrong all the time. I'm just the first one to put it in an interview question. But sometimes I just be put in rich, but one age.

I don't like that shit. So why do we have two H's? I'm different. Okay. That's sick. It doesn't like stand for anything Like I stand on business You know what

Well said Really good man Yeah yo Hey right so I So there's somebody else Who is blaming y'all for why they can't do shows In the Bronx So I think

Okay right So like 2Gs like took to his like IG story And said yo like they Are now jacking like DDK These new dudes And We saw Kyle I'll drop him the race, right?

Sure, bro. I bid you to kick. I ain't gonna fight. Okay. I bid you gate for double O. You were, and I didn't change you were it for me. 2-2Gs is just a little dick rider that, for me. He was relevant like five years ago.

He had his time, but his time was over. He's trying to get relevant against what he's trying to diss nickers. You see how he diss the whole drill community? He just kids in Chicago. That's what you're kidding. The fuck, you try to diss niggas to get clout. That's what niggas do. You don't care about that shit, though.

I don't care about that shit, though. That's shit, whacked. Yo, bro, right? I think yesterday, like, I think it was yesterday, right? Bruh, they then clapped Bubba's channel, bro. Oh, man. They'll talk to, like, talk to Bubba yet? I dead caught that, nigga. I ain't got a lot for me.

That's a wacky. I ain't like that, because they dead took about IG too, bro. They took it again? Nah, the first time. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I had $2.50K on that shit, bro. They just snatched my shit, bro. That shit, boy.

That's a lot of drill history, right there. That's what I was just about to say that, like, TV. I know his life's work, though. I feel like artists, like, they should probably feel for him, too, because it's like, he helped a lot of, a lot of niggas, bro. He definitely did, bro. I ain't gonna lie. He helped a lot of niggas, bro.

He helped a lot of niggas, bro. And even, like, like, your fan base is like, what if they want to, like, you know, see some content on you, like, your personality, you know, want to look you up. You can't see those videos no more. That's where it's photo for me, because the fans don't get to see us on you. Yeah, fans like CNI shot. And they took a backup channel too? They did?

Yeah. Yeah. And they, I heard. They're trying to take them off the map. They told me it was all because he had like a fake drunk driving prank. Yeah. Like he was pretending to be drunk in the video or in the title or something? That's entertainment though, you were in it?

Wasn't that out of the old? Yeah, but I guess YouTube's super hardcore about that shit. Nah, what? People be doing worse shit on YouTube, though. That's crazy. Yeah. Crazy. Okay, so what was this video you getting into a fight at a college or some shit?

Oh yeah, that bullshit. Yeah, what happened in that scenario? That's just another example of situation that you don't bring in the immediate. I ain't go live. That's what they were no. And that's another thing. I ain't go lie, I never got beat up your word. Never even got to touch.

You could watch the Vipo. Niggas just be politic in a chat on my name. I don't give a fuck though because in reality, who gonna do what? Nika see me that your energy change. Gage thing. You just gonna leave it at that time. That's another thing. I ain't get no fake chains, natch, no other that you were for me.

That shit wasn't even mine. I don't wear fake jewelry. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Bro, listen, like, because when I seen that, I was like, I don't think that Kyle is rocking like a bracelet from like gold. You feel like me, right?

You're right? I don't know. I'm gonna keep it a bug with you for me. My man's, for me, my man's hot that shit, gangster, bro. For me, and that shit was in the V and it slipped out. And that niggas snatched it and I used to talk about, oh, I slashed K, R chain, whole bunch of bullshit like, who on that, bro. What the fuck?

I should have day won't go. I ain't go a lot, but we passed that shit, gangsta. Bro, listen, yo, like, you had the hardest reply. You said, like, you got socked out and, like, my man's, like, pistol whipped you 41 times. I said, nah, that's crazy. No. Situations we don't bring to the media. Yeah, who the fuck put it with...

Bro, bro. You know, T. Pee on that, though, feel me? Yeah, that you're pissed with 41 times. Nah, that's crazy, bro. I ain't go a lot, like... Media don't even know, like, I don't get the bad, like... Niggas violent me, bro. Nickers got like 30 seconds of what I was going to phone.

What were you doing out of college in general? Well, I ain't go along. The bitches is not colleges, bro. You act like you don't know that, bro. I know you know that. Come on now. Back in the day. Back in the day, yeah.

College had the bitches like that. At 39, I don't know if you want to be roaming the college. I'm not going to fly. I ain't know. We got bad bitches and mad colleges. We just be taking a choice only once. We'd be going all over the world, bro. We'd be going everywhere, boy.

I should have fucking gang stuff. Right. I mean, JuC. Jay, when he was like 40, he had a lyric where he said, I don't go to college, but the dorm room is my domain. And I thought that was a crazy answer. It would be like that. I felt that kicks. I felt that. But sure. Better question though, right, bro? So you actually, like, dropped out of college, right? Yeah. Why? Look, I ain't go a lot. I'm just keep with a buck with you, for me. Yeah. My parents wanted me to go to college, like.

Of course. Like, that's the best thing to do. It's the best thing they're doing. A lot of things. I guess I'm going to make it there's nothing but I'm going to college. That's not. At the end of day, bro, you gotta do what it was best for you. Yeah. And that's what I did for me. I'm in college.

I'm in college. I'm broke, nigger. Like, what the fuck? What am I doing here, bro? Yeah. It's bitches there, but like, I don't want to be in bitches' faces and I'm broke? Like, nah. I got a dude what's best for me, bro.

And what's best for me was music, because that's what I love. That's my passion. Yeah. So I followed that shit. Gangsta. And he went crazy. crazy as soon as you got there. Like the music hit as soon as you got there. So the 41 freestyle shit. Nah, I should help me with my rain, though. I didn't go a lot. Like, for me. I was just

in my dorm room smoking every day finding different flows, bro. That's what I was doing, just looking for different flows. And that's why I made 41 freestyle. Once I made that that certain, I found my flow, it was over. You can just smoke in your dorm room? You don't got an R.A. popping by and telling you in trouble? No, that's crazy because, like, I thought I was Gucci for like two weeks. And then he'd kick me out. That's what you got kicked out over? Yeah, bro, it wasn't even the R-A, bro.

Rade to him, right? Yeah, bro, that's what happened, bro. The smoke alarm went off for some bullshit, so the boys is already on my floor. And I'm in my room, because I ain't go out of no fucking fires, I'm not doing that. I look like gangster. So the boys go past my room and they smell dumb smoke. Yeah. I'm thinking I'm go with you.

I'm thinking shit sweet. I'm in my room with a split for me. Still smoking after the alarm went off? You have the window open? You have the window open anything? Yeah, this dude is wild, bro. I'm like, yo. What's that?

Like, you know, it was like five boys in my room. And I got mad clips everywhere, mad weed everywhere, because I used to sell weed over the two for me. So I'm just, fuck for me. They just took everything, bro. I ain't go lie and it was over, bro. Yo, bro, how did your parents, like, especially Nigerian parents who, like, education is the end-all-being.

It was not jacking, but I didn't go lie. I had to really have a talk with my mother. Oh, really? And she just had to understand. But she say, like, why, baby, like. She wasn't jiking, I ain't go a lot, man. Yeah. She just had to understand you were for me that I had to do as much for me.

Yeah. Kingston, that's what I'm going to be happy with. And I actually don't regret that decision. Yeah, man. You want to school, Jenner, or not? I mean, I was a college, but I told my mom, you know, like, the music shit was distracting, because I was already still in New York, so it's like, it's not even like I got a different environment. Like, I was straight out of high school, still doing the music from the pandemic.

You know what I'm trying to say, trying to go viral. So it's like I wasn't even going to school. Like she started noticing. She's like, why you're not going to school? I told her you're like, for me. Oh, really? I had the same talk, but it's like to this day, I'm still having to talk.

Like, you know what I'm trying to say? I'm like, yo, I'm gonna take a break from school right now. You know what I'm trying to say? I could go back because it's like, I wanted to focus on the music. Like, we was going crazy when I really feel like I could go forward with this shit to the point where I could support her, support my sister, everybody around me,

you know what I'm trying to say. So. Yeah, and your window of time that you have to make it as a rapper can be very, very short. Like, if you have a wave of popularity going, you do not have time to take a year off. That's what I'm trying to explain to. You need to get the money you can right now. I got to, like, put both feet in the door in order to capitalize. You know what I'm trying to say.

Because you could go to college three, four, five, ten years from now. Realistically, a lot of people don't. But, like, you know, you can't just chill for a year or two and then be like, hey, remember me? I'm a rapper. I'm back. Like, hell no. It does not work that way. These days, where there's a new rapper every two weeks.

Hell no. Yeah, bro, especially down. Do she understand, though, like how lit you are, though? No. Not? She don't even know, like, yo, like, mom, like, I'm really out here popping. Like, I'll be telling her, and she'd be seeing, like, the pics, the viz, the shows, like. But I don't know, maybe she got to walk me down the street for her, for her, and see all the fans.

They're never going to really understand, no. See how old fans react. They're never going to really understand. They never go, you know, they don't see the vision all the way through. You know, they don't see the vision. They just, you know, be first generation. Yeah. So.

Your parents see it yet or not yet? I don't know. Like, for me, like, they know. It's going to take time. They don't know how famous like work for me. I see that a lot though, bro. Like, niggas get signed. Like, they beat, you know, like, I'm tomorrow like, like, like, racks in the crib, bro.

But they still like, at the Bronx, like project houses, bro. That's like, oldies, Joe rappers. That's what separate. Like, we got to grab V, everything. We said you both. Our monsters is just different. We go to you, bro. Oh, where?

Yeah. Oh no. I think it was Tata. I was like so proud, bro, like for, like for his 18th birthday. Tata was the first one to get the curve. Yeah. He was the first one out of it. He just got that shit in the fuck way.

A word, man. When we've got to get out of it, I'm like, nah, we gotta get out of here too, for me. So we got some shit, for me. We got some cool and shit too. What are you at now though? Like Jersey or where? We out. We out.

We out. Gains that. Just know. Don't drop the low, right? We out. No, man. So, I think it was like two weeks ago, right? I think like Mia Kenzo, like, came on live and this cow, man.

You seen it? Yeah, I've seen it. Bro, why should she like this in you, man? I don't know, bro. I don't know, bro. Yeah. You were it? Because it's like, we made her.

So how could you do that? Yeah. You feel what I'm trying to say? The comment section was like, brother, you're doing bad, right now. She's doing terrible, girl. She's crazy. She's not even relevant. She's just trying to do what niggas do, this to get close. Yeah. But we get it. We're not, we're not going to do. Like, we're not at not at all. Like, we got to realize, like, we really got influence. So a lot of people ain't even work for a time. Well, that shit is whack, but I don't feed on a bullshit no more,

but we're bigger than that. Most of your opposite, if you were a dissing, it would just be like a clear good thing for them. Yeah. But look, if we disrespect, it's an even better thing for that. Of course. That's what we're not. That's what we'll be too, bro. You have to really learn that, though.

They want us to respond, bro. Shit like Nottiebop, that shit, we're in value. They want them a naughty bop too, look. Yeah, of course. It's not happening. We're not doing that. But question of, right? So now, like,

like, you're all like the piece of positivity, right? So listen, so like, would y'all ever, like, make peace with the other Africans that y'all really are not like seen in I-to-Iwa. Who like Yuzi? Yeah. No. Damn, man. Like I actually, oh yeah, I have it.

It's not happening, bro. Bro. That's a good. That's his, bro. No. No, like that. Davey's a fan. Keep that fake shit away from me.

No second chance or no, no. No second chance or no, no. Keep that shit away from me, bro. It's over. Damn. If he comes out and say, you know what, bro, bro, listen, man, like, I apologize. I was tripping, bro.

Like, that shit not even me, bro. bro, he's dissing my dead. It's over. It's over. It's over. Why? Yeah, bro. And A, man, I tried, man. You feel?

Yeah. You ever thought about getting that flaco so you can get to him? If you do something to flaco, that's kind of, they're really, like, tied in. So you like that, you like that. You said he was your brother on the interview. Oh, that's your brother. Yeah, real brothers. Yeah.

We're going to talk out there. We're going to talk out there. We're going to talk out there. Bro. Listen though, though. Hey, right, right, right, but listen though. I kind of like, it's like, I show love to all the Africans, right? Especially like, like, doing drug, right?

Because kind of like, bro, like, it's hard as fuck for us to even like, you know, like, even like be taken seriously, right? So that's why I'm like, I know more. I ain't go front. The narrative's fake switching, boy. I go, like, Africans is really running it. Yeah. I guess it's done our Tricua when there's a real life.

I ain't going front. Yeah. Like, you see what advocates is doing, bro. Of course. Avicans all over America is really doing something. Movies, TV shows, music. Brenda boy right now is he lit this nigger Tems. Brunner boy, Thames, yo.

Nigger Davy, though. They've been around to them. They've been around to Stubber. Like, come on, boy. Yeah, come on. Yeah, come on. Yeah, come on. I see that.

But is she really though? Because those people were saying, saying, she's got in. I asked her, I asked that she merged it. What tribe is she from? I don't know for me. I ain't, I just go out. Yeah. I thought she said she was Nigerian.

Is she an inspiration? I think she saw her. Dominican and Black. Yeah. Like, she's mixed. Yeah. On Twitter, she said Nigerian on Twitter. She got some type of Nigerian or something.

I don't know. Yeah. She said Nigerian and Dominican. I seen a tweet of a dude talking about Ice Spice just wondering what color her butthole was and had 150,000 likes. That's dumb weird. Look it, look it. I was mad weird.

Seeing her go from looking like a typical Bronx hood rat to serving such elegant looks in a year warms my heart. I still wonder what color her butthole is though, 51,000 likes. What kind of niggas are they, bro? This is what I'm talking about? Kind-hearted XIA. Oh, those niggins are on Paul Hub and shit. Huh?

Those niggins that be on Paul Hub and X video. Yeah, I don't know who said this. I screenshadowed because I just couldn't believe that many people liked the tweet about wondering what color someone's butho was, but... Shut up to her, regardless. Yeah, man. Yo, bro, this shit... Shout to her. Yeah, right now, bro, listen, like, there's like this new genre called, like, Afro Drill, right?

There's like... I'm seeing, like, there's, like, they're using kind of like the traditional Afro beats mixed up with drill. Will Jen and. Kyle ever hop on that wave, man. What was we just talking about in the call? Right, we were not just talking about. That's crazy. I'm like, what's the African samples?

We like, yo, I was one. A word? Yeah, we got some shit. I'm heading producers. Like, I'm just been heading producers. Like, I just been hitting producers. Last, last simple, though, like, we go crazy. Huh?

Oh, yeah. Everybody did. Yon Ka. Like, last, like. That's a lot. That's true. That's true. Yeah, we want to, like, go, like,

deeper into the Nigerian show. You just got to know to, know the sample. That's the type of song. I'm looking for like a David O song, Wes K, Burn a boy, like, you just got to know to know. I'm a sample that shit and get some... Yeah, right. No, listen, or do like a, like, like, like an old shit, right?

Like, because, like, I feel like chop my money dropped in like 2010, right? So like, right? Like, shit like that, right? Or like an old like A-Con song. But you niggas, like... No. Sorry. A-Con, I fuck with A-Con.

Yeah, no, right? But I feel like the A-Con songs, though, like, I played out already, right? In the Bronx. Yeah, they're all popular. Yeah. But they still tunes, like... It's still tuned. It still gives me, like, a good feeling.

I don't know. He's picky with the samples. Oh, him? Yeah. He's picky with the samples. I like a lot of samples. So, I mean, we just got chemistry. We don't work it out.

Well, you just feel like the samples are kind of blown out at a certain point? I mean, recently... I mean, nah, yeah, I swear to be the tools, sometimes. I don't do samples like everybody always did. Everybody been doing. You do different. But, like, she really understand. Like, it don't be about, like, it just be about the vibe.

The feeling, bro. The feeling, bro. And she'd be understanding that. That's why our chemistry just differently. Yeah, man. Who's your musical, like, and inspirations? I got a lot of inspirations. I got a lot of inspiration, like, like, growing up for me, I used to listen to Michael Jackson.

Michael Jackson? Oh, yeah, like, I used to like that nigga Swack. That shit was fired me for me. My dad used to play that show. MJ Swack is crazy, though. Yeah, bro. That shit is walking. For me, I like niggas' age keef.

A little doug old ducle of my favorite. for rappers. Yeah. Polo G. I listen to Playboy Cardi, too. I feel like Playboy Cardi while I got my phone from. Where are you listening to no more, though, because I don't want something different. You can't paint your nails?

Yeah, like the alternative. I never paid my nails. That's nothing happened. Never. Never my life came to me. That's that way. What was? You said Chief Keith, Michael Jackson,

and Cardi. Cardi, I'd be real, like, I don't like, you combine Chief Keith, Keith, Cardi, and Michael Jackson, like, you don't get drill, right? I'm out of drill after. I'm not a drill athlete. I'm, like, a rock star, and that good? Yeah. Yeah, but, yo, question, right?

So, like, if y'all, like, had, like, for example, like, a free voucher for any feature, right? Like, like, which Afro beats artists would you, like, collab with? Just one. Like Afrobees? Yeah. Um, Daveo. A word, Davido? Yeah.

Yo, why not like Burn the Boy? Too. I ain't go out. Davido got hits on his. Burner Boy, too. I ain't going to go a lot. All right. Burn a boy,

time. Yeah, I'll probably do David O too, mainly because I feel like I'll probably have a little bit more chemistry with him. A word? Yeah, because the way he rap out, you know, like, I like, when I do like a feature with somebody, I like, be in a, able to put some of their style in the song along with compliments on my own flow. So it's like, you know, I want to be able to mix and I feel like I'll mix girl with

Davey. Yeah, man. Word. And have y'all been like back to Nigeria yet? Oh, I've been here a couple times. Oh, where? I ain't go a lot. I've never been there.

I'm trying to go over. How about? I don't got my Apache. I haven't been out of the country. I don't know. I never been out of the country. I go a lot. But it's coming soon.

I gotta take that trip in the instant. Where'd you go, Jay? What's how, Jay? I went in middle school a couple times. I went in the high school, I think, twice. Oh, word. I went two summers ago again. How do it feel, like to be, like, for example, right?

Because I feel like back home, right, like, just going out and seeing like a black, like billboard, black magazines, right? Black like store owners, black president. It's like a different vibe, right? Way different, yeah. It's way different over there. Man, bro. Yeah.

here, right? So, like, what's the best part of just being back home? Mainly seeing my family members, because a lot of my family isn't over here. You know what I'm trying to say? It's really just, like, I got a couple aunties over here, but you know, they're, like, late or, you know, for me. Being back home is, like, being surrounded by the people that I, that grew up with me, like, they took care of me when I was young. Oh, word. You know, for me.

I was born here, but every time I went over there, it was just straight love because they love seeing me. I'm always in America. My mom wanted to make sure I was born here to make sure I go to school. Yeah. Who's the person that's shown love to you guys' music that shocked you the most? Why artists was? Or anyone, yeah. Yeah, we got, like, a lot of artists that tapped into us.

For me? Yeah. To reap for fucking power. Oh, where? Yeah, bro. It's crazy because power's one of my... Nah, not one of my. That's like the early TV, so I watched.

I would have an entire time to watch TV. The power is fired. That's the best one TV, gangsters. Well, recently, I've seen Angel Reese dancing at Sea Rad. She did it twice, too. So, you know, she's an inspiration of me because a lot of people weren't, yeah, you can't see. What did you know about that?

Takes me a second to remember who you're talking about. You know, she out there putting on, you know, for women. Like, a lot of people didn't even watch women basketball. and they're just so intrigued now. Like, people getting interested, so she's an inspiration to me. You know what I'm trying to say? Do you have a lot of young girls and women

hitting you up, like, inspired by what you're doing? Like, I got a, like, there's a lot of underground artists that a female girl, they'll tap in with me, and they'll be like, yo, you know, you inspired me to rock. You know what I'm trying to say? And that shit like that keep me going. Like, being a supporter is one thing, but inspiring you to do, you know,

like, you know what I'm trying to say, to really push. That's different. Gangster. Yeah, and I mean, I'm not mad at the chicks who are using their bodies to sell their music and stuff, but it's got to be inspiring to a lot of chicks to see you just being

basically like, no, I'm not on that, but then still having all this success. I'm just being myself. Gangster. I don't care like who say what. I'm going to just be myself or what. And she's hard as hell, man. You put yourself like hair, right? Give me like your top five like, like

just drill rappers or rappers in general does in New York right now. Top five in New York drill rappers that I like all listen to. Yeah. All right. Oh, wait, wait, wait, no, listen. Yeah, because... Top five's best.

That's a different question. You can't put them in it, though. Why can't put them in it? You're biased, even. That's your man's. Yeah. I mean, I really do listen to a lot of four-one because it's just, it's not even what we have out.

It's unreleased that isn't out. You got so much music going on. on myself and try to critique myself. I don't really compare myself to other niggas. But for me, yeah, like... It's gonna be the most political list ever. Yeah, right? She can't be an impartial observer of the culture.

Oh yeah, that's true, right? Yeah, right? That's true then, right? Because you can't really say, like, you know... Yeah. Like, I know what. No, I'm gonna say it, bro, because I don't give a fuck, okay.

Alright. Who's your top of? Drew? Yeah. All right. I'm not going to put it in order, though, but I'm just put like five. I mean, rap is like really doing it. Shout out to KFlock.

I ain't go a lot. KFlock paved the way for a lot of niggins. I ain't go a lot. The D thing is nice, too. I like Kendra Bola. Penzo Bola Cavilly rap. Okay. I like Dougie B too.

I fuck with Dougie Energy and I know Dougie person. Dougie be showing love, gangster. Um, wealth. Oh yeah, and Esda I go, gangster. I fuck with what Edgall go doing too. They got some shit going on, they little sweeper shit. That shit is fine for me. Without the politics, though, I fuck with their music.

Yeah, man, enough facts. Hey, listen, I'll probably say, I agree with most of that list, but I feel like D-Think has been gone right now for just wait for just wait for too long, right? Right? It's kind of like, how do we even like know? That's fair. I mean, I feel like he's been booked as long as Cape Flack, right?

A word? Around the same time, no. A little longer, I think. A little longer? Yeah, right? Because these things, think, like... These things, like... Yeah.

And he has a lot of tracks too. You're pioneering this shit too. So for me, he come home, you know, for me, he probably go crazy. Man, you like think that, okay, right? So, how long do you think that K. Flok can still be relevant while in jail? Like a year or two, five years? Like... I ain't gonna lie.

I don't know how long. He's trying to keep him in there for me, for him, but... Yeah. Be K. Flok, man. I feel like he has a potential to still be relevant for a minute. Yeah, for it. Because he just had a large impact on drill itself. His impact on the drill is...

I feel like as long as he has been relevant. His drill is still relevant. Yeah, boy. He caught that. Him, he can have a pop smoker for him. I ain't going for it. The word? Yeah, because his legacy is walking.

I ain't go a lot of there. He influenced a lot of niggas. Yeah. Niggins just don't want to say it, because niggas gonna think it's a dick rotter. So it's no hard feelings between you guys and D. DoA at this point? You're trying to just be over it? Over what?

Any issues you might have? Never had no issues. No. No way. Do away fuck with her. The way fuck with them. Oh, okay. I saw you're saying I'm 41K, I might as well be D-O-A.

Oh, you're not linked up, like that. 41 is not a game, 41 is not a game, nigga. This shit is built with a loyalty, love, and being. You're just a family. Yeah. Yeah, this is not a RICO attempt. Nah, man. Like, what?

No jumper Rico is gonna hit way before you guys get it. This nigga is funny. Nah, man. Yeah, man. Yo, man, what's next, man? Oh, what's next? Yeah. Like music-wise?

Yeah. What's next, man? Well, we got a new song, add into the compilation that we just dropped. Maybe you should be a week. Yeah. Yeah, for me. So yeah. And y'all are like, I'm signed now, right?

Like to Republic? Yeah, we're trying to do the label. Is that changed shit? Yeah, definitely changed shit. I hear a lot. It's just trying. It took us, it took us, like, it's like, nine months to adjust to the system, but. Where?

Like, the system is really a walkie adjustment. I can go live. Because you gotta remember, we just, we straight out Brooklyn, nigger, doing this shit. Hustling, Nick. I'm used to dropping it and getting shit done how I want, nigger. So I could grow. With this labor, it's a system, bro. You just gotta learn to system, and you gotta follow by the system.

I try to break that shit. As much time as I can, that shit, never work, bro. Never work, bro. They're gonna shelf my eyes, gangsta. But they know what they're doing, though. Because we did, they're doing, though. about the drop son, that shit gonna go crazy, son. That's a whole different vibe because we did, Kiyan, Tata.

Yeah. I feel like this is a big though, like, there's a big, like, wrist to it, right? Because again, like, they're at the top, right? So they probably, like, know what they're doing, like, in terms of, like, the business, right? But, like, in terms of, like, how to cater to your fans, I feel like y'all probably, like, know that more than, you know, like, the label, right? Oh, of course. Right?

So, like, them telling y'all, like, oh, you know, like, don't drop, like, five times a week. You know, like, you know. Five times a week is crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't oversaturate the market, man. That's not happening, bro. Yeah. At the same time, the fans want us to drop, bonus, like, you're not dropping, bro.

I be feigning, yo, bro, we make music every single day, bro. Every single day we get better, we make better music every day, bro. I be feening the drop, bro. But I just can't. We just... It's a system. It's gonna drop eventually, but I just gotta go through the system. We really fast-paced.

That's all I know. I don't know. We just get excited. Yo, here, right, listen to, right? So, like, y'all just seem, like, y'all are, like, so close, man. Like, what's your biggest disagreement you all ever had? Like, just one? That's crazy. You don't want to be arguing like that.

No? Like, me and Cal specifically, or? I don't know, but. You mean, like, 4-1? In a group, yeah. Oh, 4-1? Hmm. Nah, it's crazy on my birthday.

Oh, really? Like, just recently for me? I was a Milwaukee date. Nakes-old ever know about that. This is me. Happen. Remember right before my birthday? Oh.

Everybody was fighting. That's why I be really bugger's though, bro. We gone to the big guys' face. You all were linked up in the head. It just started bugging. Yo. Right before my party, bro. I love my niggas, though.

That shit really brought us closer, though. That shit really brought us closer. Yo, that's it. Yo, that's right. Yeah, we go through shit, bro. Everybody go through shit, for me. How are we going to make sure that you guys sit together and don't break up? and don't break up, like, all the great hip-hop groups

to break up at some point sooner or later. The key is communication. Therapy. You guys should be in therapy right now, so that you are already used to have this level of communication in the future. I feel like talking to the nukovac's feelings don't work, bro. Like, they never go understand, gangsta. But I'm just saying, man, like, I don't know.

As far as a group, if you guys want to stay on the same page, I think it might be good to be proactive. Therapy? Get on, and invoice it to Republic, too. Yeah. But, like, we're from the hub, bro. I can't tell my niggas go to therapy. You're not going to do that.

They're going to look at me around at three hours. Think I should go together. No, I'm not saying, like, y'all go together. Like, this is crazy. You do seem like you get a lot better well, though. You do think it's beautiful. Bro, I don't even like speaking about it. Yeah, but you're going to keep it all crushed down inside

until it just explodes one day. It's going to explode in a booth. Oh. Straight. Now, listen, it's therapy and stay off. Please don't lie. You feel me? Reich?

Because I'm glooping. Be trying to. That shit is negativity. I really forgot about that. I forgot about that shit too. That shit is negativity. I don't like that shit. Gage.

And what's your favorite drill page then? What NYC sounds like for me? Okay, what NYC sounds like? And NYC... NYDrew. Oh, you know, they love you. Enwai Drell. Yeah.

It's two of them, though. NWDrew page. NWDrew page. NWDade. NWDade. Those two have really been rocking with me since the beginning of my career. It was like the official pages, yeah. They're feeding it under bullshit.

Yeah, they just post music. Yeah. That's a lot of. And they're not biased to. With who them? Hey, listen to it. Like, because there's somebody else called N-Y-Drill official. And they is jacking y'all, bro.

Like, they love y'all, bro. Like, he'd be able to. I fuck with you. I'll be texting. The Jew official being a lot of bullshit too. I see you. Oh, he didn't. But he wasn't always like that.

He wasn't always like that, you know. He wasn't always like that, you know. Just started. He wants some Pleasol election. But he... He does both, though. Yeah. Feaselike is just a different type of negative energy.

Yeah. I just don't get myself into it. Yo, bro. Pleasolai doesn't like us, I rule like. Nah. I know the nigga personally. Oh, you do? Yeah, bro, it's a little day...

I see his picture and I thought that was cap. So, that's actually him? What picture you were seen? Like, so, like, and he posted, like... I think he posted it in, like, by accident. Yeah, on a private story. Yeah. On the CF, right?

Yeah. For real. Some little daveo black nigga. Bro, that's not the kid that's, like, terrorizing the city, bro. That can't be the kid that terrorizing the city, man. I thought it was a little dame of white, I ain't going to lie. I didn't know he was black, for me. He just day a little.

He doesn't like us. I don't know why. I think he got some personal vendetta against us. He just doesn't like it. Yeah, but, like, influence. Liggas is that going to valid him. Where? Niggas is going to get up with him.

It's going to happen, but the truth always comes in the light. What? Niggins talking about a fictional character. Now, question, right? But, like, how, like, how influential are those, like, drill pages when it comes to, like, instigating beefs? Like...

Oh, that's what the fans want. Yeah. And you're a word for negativity. You bet, though, and in the, like... I'm not even going to say the fans. That's what the media wants. That's a fact. Because real supporters,

that's a fact. No. I don't like shit like that. That's us. But the media is basically just like doing whatever the fans reward, you know? Like the media is only going to post the shit that the fans react to and that they like and comment on. Yeah, that's right.

It won't be old fans, but not all. 50% fans, 50% haters. Yeah. 50% haters. Yeah, bro. No, but speaking of, yo, have y'all like enter into that Reddit, like the NYC state of mine? Oh, redders are wacky too. Oh.

I heard about Reddit. Reddit is like PDF. Oh. I've never opened Reddit in my life. I don't even want to see the nonsense. It's just saying shit that I never heard before. That's right. I just be looking at that, I was like, yo, it's me.

Like, what the fuck? Yo, it's worse than PDL, bro. And I should be all-capped. Oh, really? I hate it, boy. Yo, that's the worst. I hate that shit, bro. That's why I just tried to get away from that shit.

I should really get me mad. I didn't go a lot. Did Reddit? All that shit, bro. But I'm a, I like the push positivity. I like the, I like peace, bro. I can never imagine a Reddit having a negative impact on anyone's lives. Hey, man.

We went through, we went through it, though. Yeah, we've been through our Reddit arcs. Yo, though, no, listen, though, but I forgot to say, congrats, but, like, y'all are now verified. Oh, yeah. We'll feel different, though, like, to be now, like, yo, I'm one of it. This shit, yo, beau. Anybody can get verified now, right?

It's not. Long overdo. I won't go feel it regular today. I don't like that. It's actually, like, a real, you know. It was a cool little fella. I ain't go live. It was good.

It was good. Because listen, I'm almost at 100K, bro. Oh, my God. I need the plug, my boy. You feel me, man? Like, no, we don't got the plug. Just keep grinding, kids. You can get that one day.

No plug, man, man. Uh? No plug. Just be official. All right, anybody you guys want to shout out or anything we need to know about before we wrap this? Uh, shout out for me, 4100. My mother, everybody, everybody to go on KVH, what? The same thing is.

Yeah. Hey, man. Tata, shout out Tata. That's 41. Oh, yeah. Yeah, shout out of Tata. I can be able to say, yeah. Shout out my support.

Shout all my supporters. Shout all my supporters. Mm. Big things to come. Definitely love my fans. It's gonna be the shit that motivate me. This is gonna be the year for one. You're only motivation, especially the fans.

The fans keeps me going some time. It's shining now, man. Got the, man, got the, what's that, like an LV back? Yeah, boom. Man, you winning now, man. I like that you're winning now, man. I think you asked, even though it was just literally like, El-B logos all in the whole thing. I couldn't tell you to my eyesight. You feel what me? That is funny. I appreciate you guys. Thanks so much.

Big fans of the music. Everybody go turn them up on all socials. Thank you, Flacco. That's it. Krah. Cra. Peace.