No Jumper - 4xtra Arrested for a Body! Lil Durk Beats all his Charges! Wack Beat Up a Rapper & More!

Episode Date: September 14, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Don't you wish you could just hit skip on the worst parts of your life? You know the same way you can skip an ad? I get it. I'm Siaia and I live in Ice Cove. I've made some questionable decisions that didn't end up the way I planned. And today I'm still figuring it out. Somehow things usually get worse before they get better. Apparently, that's how I roll.
Starting point is 00:00:22 So bundle up and come along for the bumpy ride. Stream a new episode of North of North Tuesdays on CBC Gem. They said we're live. He's just happy. I've been doing the math. What am I happy about? I've been doing the math, bro. All the crips that work with you directly at no jumper go to jail for serious defenses after working with you and no jumper.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Crip Mac, Rick Baby, N. Faye, Foestris, Just to name a few, bro. You know, I think my problem is that I'm so tapped in with the streets that when I go to grab up a host, I go to the people who really be putting in work. I go to the people who are really out here conspiring, stalking, tracking. This is what I'm saying, bro. Like, I'm trying to understand, okay.
Starting point is 00:01:28 At first I thought it was an old murder. Now they're telling me it's an attempted murder, a fresh one. Wait, a new one. They're saying this is a fresh attempted murder. Oh, I was thinking about that because the whole 2015 thing was based on what Jayhood told me, his homie heard from the cops. So I was thinking that, that's what they said, but there's also a good chance it could be a new thing. Now, what do you mean, Jay Hood?
Starting point is 00:01:58 his homie hurt, man, what you mean? The cops came and told somebody else? Yeah, yeah, like his homie in prison. And I guess, I don't know, people are acting like this is controversial. So I apologize to Jay Hood if this is in any way like a pain for you to deal with because I did not intend to get him in any hot water. I would have just said, somebody told me if I knew that this was going to be a thing. But all Jay Hood said was that he got as a homie who's in prison.
Starting point is 00:02:25 And this was a couple weeks ago. and he said that the cops went and paid his home me a visit and asked for information about 4XA allegedly killing somebody in 2015 and that was what I relayed to 4Xra. I told him and Flacco seems to think that I'm going to get a charge for obstructing justice. But I just told him, he got his nerves, right? I mean, I just told him four extra like, yo, just be aware of this. And I told him I don't really have like a lot of information.
Starting point is 00:02:54 And obviously there's like nothing you can do if it's really like, like something that old. But I told him that. What you told him? What did he say? I left him a voice note on his phone. And I was on vacation in Seattle with my ex-wife and my kid. And I was on Do Not Disturb.
Starting point is 00:03:15 He tried to call me back. I missed it. I tried to call him. He didn't pick up. So we missed each other there. And that was like maybe a week ago, maybe two weeks ago. What do you mean ex-wife? you don't have that right bro
Starting point is 00:03:28 you're right we're still married legally because I've been legally separated with a divorce file for four or five years and they don't let me say X everybody wants me to still be married they just ask the R&B
Starting point is 00:03:47 I just think they don't want me with you fair but we can talk about that but so who told you that the for extra thing is a current situation baby shooter hit me no he said they called him at a hotel or stuff yeah in Glendale
Starting point is 00:04:04 I said I think he knew they was coming yeah he probably thought that he could run yeah but you can't run in L.A. County bro you got to run yeah you can't go to Glendale you came to your house no he couldn't come to my house what you mean bro I don't
Starting point is 00:04:23 I don't harbor convicts He ain't a convict until he get caught. That would be a good... Hey, what about that for a stream at No Jumper where we have a convict and we harbor him for however long he needs until the cops eventually come and get him? So you want to just let the cops know, hey, he's here. Come pick him up.
Starting point is 00:04:46 I mean, we could like try to pretend we're somewhere else. I don't know. Charleston White says he keeps knowledge of murders. So when he goes to jail, he can give him up and turn the people in. That's smart. I should do that. How would you have knowledge of murders, bro? Just ask around a little bit more?
Starting point is 00:05:12 Oh, yeah, you diabolical, bro. You, you, you, uh, goddamn. So you tell me, they said that they took for extra and they put him in medical. They wouldn't, they wouldn't put him right in the county as he's probably done every other time he's ever been arrested. Instead, he's in the county, he's in medical. And is it true that he would like potentially be able to sign a waiver to get released to general population?
Starting point is 00:05:37 Well, that all depends on the condition of that hand. It's been over a year. I don't know if it's, you know, all healed up as best as he could because it looks like he keeps it in an ace bandage. I haven't seen him what it just out or what the, something on it, they're not going to release him. They're not going to release him like that
Starting point is 00:06:04 into population. Right. With that hand like that, bro. Now, well, Forex is probably try to sign a waiver because of his quote unquote stigma of always being on the main line. Probably so. Is it smart?
Starting point is 00:06:22 Hell no. Do I think people would do him dirty and care less about his hand, absolutely. You don't think he would be, like, supported by all the other neighborhood crips enough that, like, they would protect him if anybody was trying to fight him? Yes, but I also think
Starting point is 00:06:39 if any of his ops that he has done dirt, he has a reputation. Yeah. Catch him. Remember carrots? He put a carrot in a butt, yeah. You got some things right to where people like, we're not, we not got no,
Starting point is 00:06:55 We don't got no feelings or emotions about what you're going through. I really think, because look, I would do my op dirty if you were one of them ops that we've heard about dog and my, our homies out, right? So you're saying you think there's a high chance that four extra will be carried it? I think it's a high chance that if his ass sign that waiver, it's going to be a different dance for him on that main line. Man, I can't imagine the 4-extra that I know not choosing to be in the mix with all of his homies.
Starting point is 00:07:33 I just, I can't imagine. And especially like, maybe he doesn't do it today or tomorrow, but let's say he ends up doing a couple years. For a show, he needs to be in the mix. He ain't the type to just want to be tucked away. He's already been working out. he's put some resistance to the hand already pushups uh burpees i haven't seen them do some some weightlifting right i just think la county they're gonna say no you have to go here once they look at the condition of that hand will he try he definitely is going to try because in his mind if he doesn't
Starting point is 00:08:17 it's going to be a strike against it. But I just don't think it's smart out the gate. That's a filthy place, bro. He can get an infection. You know what I'm saying? Once you get away from that infirmary, you're subject to that all kind of BS. Especially since he claims that he has already knocked somebody out
Starting point is 00:08:40 with his metal hand. Is it metal in his hand? I mean. Yeah, I don't know. know what it looks like, but somehow in there, he said it's just a bunch of metal. And I don't really, I have a hard time imagining what it would look like.
Starting point is 00:08:55 But he said that he has hit somebody with the metal hand. And I think he said that they got knocked out, or at least they got hurt really badly. So he can move whatever fingers that's left to kind of get them out of the way. I mean, I think he only has the pinky and the thumb. And so then
Starting point is 00:09:12 I guess in the center, there's some kind of metal in here. But I see something here coming out of that. Yeah. I don't think most of the fingers are blown the whole way off. I don't know how much they left. But either way, I mean, I would think that it would hurt unbelievably bad to hit somebody with the metal in the hand.
Starting point is 00:09:33 But I don't know. He probably has a high pain tolerance. I'm going to send four extra money to his books. I will hope. Look, I hope it's nothing fresh. I hope it's an old case that some of his homeboys call himself telling on because he got more action at beating something like that, which they probably don't have a gun.
Starting point is 00:10:02 The witnesses might come to court, but if it's something brand new where they got camera footage and fresh new eyewitnesses, it's a bad deal. He's 38. 38. 25 of life means. he got to do at least 20 before he goes to board.
Starting point is 00:10:21 He'll be 58 going to board and probably wouldn't get out until he was 68. Right. Yeah. I don't know, man. I hope he's able to figure it out and not getting too much trouble, but it's a crazy situation. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:36 It's the games, bro, it's the streets. This is why when I hear idiots say, hey, I'm out here, you're not. Hey. I'm this and this in them streets in 2026. Bro, I figured this shit out in the 90s. Me too.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Me too. Look, never gang banged. It's nothing about the streets that's prosperous, not even rap music. This is true. This is true. Bro, not even rap music because I know some people that if they hadn't become a rapper, probably would be alive today. Right. Who are you beating up on the Blueface tour?
Starting point is 00:11:19 Oh, no, that was just, that was just dusty dude. He from love and hip-hop. I saw a clip of somebody like pressing you, claiming that you on tour. Oh, I know, I think DW Flame said it. DW Flame said that you on tour, that you were beating up one of the rappers. And I read a bunch of comments arguing about who it would be.
Starting point is 00:11:45 I don't even want to name them. Oh, you mean on the tour or tour? Yeah. I didn't beat nobody up. I had to check the little weird dude, E.K.E. What was he doing? The dude told me that I didn't help him with his rap career. He said, you did just a little bit.
Starting point is 00:12:07 It wasn't a lot. I said, hey, bro, you know I met you at no jumper. When True Carr brought you up to him on the Thursday, They didn't know you. By Tuesday, Wednesday, you had a six-figure deal, and you were signed a QC. You chose to have Homeboy Brother Management. I didn't fight you on it. I didn't take none of your money.
Starting point is 00:12:35 I let you go. And within four months, you were dropped. But I put close to $400,000 in your pocket that didn't know you. Wait, so QC gave him $400,000 to sign, but then they gave up within four months? What I did was I ran in bow-legged. I got him a single deal and hitmaker with Alan Grumblatt for six figures. And then I got him a distribution deal, right, as an artist, with QC for six figures. they probably did it based on me.
Starting point is 00:13:20 He wanted his brother, who had never managed anybody, to manage it. Us managers that have been around, understand that when somebody's coming with that language, if you try to step into that, you're going to run into headaches because you're going to look up,
Starting point is 00:13:38 and the business is going to be everywhere. So I let him do what he did. Three, four months later, they dropped him. Like, for him, he calls me, hey whack i need your help what's that they're talking about dropping me because it is that another can you call him i'd be told him how your manager call him but why do they drop him what happened what changed um his work ethic QC don't play that shit really when they needed him in the studio he was he was he was spending a lot of time picking up the club bags and running around and
Starting point is 00:14:12 jumping on stage instead of hitting the studio when they had producers lined up for him. And he didn't know, once they lined up producers, your feature work is dead with them. Artists is on the label, outside of artists they got relationship with. So when his work ethics was like that, and they seen that I wasn't on the management team, they let him know.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Could I have called in and saved it? Yeah. Did I know? Why? Because it's like, I'm going to let you be who you want to be for the beginning. Anybody that comes and put me and six figures in my pocket that I didn't know, that I know has the capabilities of managing, I watched him get on the phone, push some buttons, and make that happen.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Take it, I had to clear the single. It was an Acon song, ghetto. I had to call Aikon direct who informed me that Manny and Avery live in the Republic owned half the song. I had to call Monty and Avery direct because they were about to pull the song Tell him I have something to do with it Get it cleared
Starting point is 00:15:21 I had to deal with all this shit And he went the other way So I just let him go to other way And when he got in trouble I just simply didn't fix it Damn So on the tour When he said that
Starting point is 00:15:33 I got a little upset But it sounds like you really weren't Ficking with him But then you still took him on the tour No Blueface said he asked me I'm gonna tell you the little dude
Starting point is 00:15:48 on the tour so you know I ain't no hater I could have shut it down I said cool no problem I ain't tripper so I let him go on the tour he gets on the tour and I think in the back of his mind
Starting point is 00:16:01 he's awesome you didn't stop it or couldn't stop it not knowing that I didn't try to stop it Blue asked me I could have just told him what it was and it wouldn't have happened I just didn't trip So when he said on the bus Man you never did
Starting point is 00:16:21 enough for me I fired this shit up You beat him You beat his ass I fired his shit up Got off on a couple times What just a little whoopty-whoop Just
Starting point is 00:16:31 Quick get off What And then I told him Your mouth and your attitude And you acting Playing tough is gonna get you hurt Two months later were off tour.
Starting point is 00:16:47 He calls me five in the morning, crying. I was at the extreme pool party in San Bernardino and these crypt dudes from five-time crypt robbed me, because he kept telling me
Starting point is 00:17:01 I keep a blower. I said, bro, they will take your gun. You're not ready and willing to go all the way. I see it in your eyes. Yeah, you don't know me. You don't know me. I'm Nigerian.
Starting point is 00:17:13 And sure enough, He pulled his gun out, shot once in the air. They took his gun, used his own gun to rob him for his jury. Watch, chain, everything. Now guess what? No, you ain't ready for this. What the fuck who house he was at. Who?
Starting point is 00:17:32 Lose Cannon's brother. Whoa, it all comes back to the Cannon fam. Yo, so I call Luce's brother. He has the clip. He got the video. Right. So he's asking me, Wack,
Starting point is 00:17:47 can you get it back? I'm pretty sure I could. Am I? No. I told him, call your management. Uh-huh. But he told me,
Starting point is 00:17:58 I get what you're saying now. I need to simmer down and get back in my lane. It's like Josh all of a sudden playing like he's brick baby. Wow. In some ways, that is accurate.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Who? Josh. I mean, that's only when he's beating on Jalise's dang things between her thoughts. That's one example, but I mean, you know, some people have called him the Jewish Brick Baby. What? Hey. I would never allow Josh to play through that around. I'm like, Josh, cut that out.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Yeah, I had to tell Josh you're not going to be from a neighborhood. I had to shut that down. Josh was trying to gangbang? Yep. Yo, man, what's going on with Lush? Lush is back. He's back in a. effect. He's uh, he's doing the podcast. He's, he's sober. He looks great. Uh, huh?
Starting point is 00:18:53 No, he's been back to McArthur Park. You, you send me some content. I just didn't put it up. So you, you're saying that he actually is back on the juice, back on the, on the, on the mess. I was seeing the video to you. I, the goo, I just didn't put it up. Like, they, they know it really I guess his dad left him some portraits. I'm taking it that his dad may be rest in peace. And on the back of the portrait, it wrote,
Starting point is 00:19:21 when Lush graduates from high school, then and only then he can have this. And whoever these dudes are, they know Lush pretty well. They're tied to the other dudes. They sent me the video clip was kind of like outrageous. I just stop attacking him and then put it up. So you're saying you have
Starting point is 00:19:39 video of Lush doing or buying drugs in MacArthur Park since he left rehab. Well, he's still in it. They're saying Lush, they wanted me to put it up and they wanted him to deny
Starting point is 00:19:52 it and then they were going to run the other plate. So I just didn't put this one up because they're flashing blowers and all kinds of shit. What? I'm going to say it to his crazy. So, but I just left it alone because I know these dudes.
Starting point is 00:20:07 I see Lush communicating with them. he's really kind of terrorizing these dudes and they're really pushing up they're like over pushing the line I'm spelling like they're over pushing the line what the hell some real bully shit like so I'm like I ain't put it up I left it alone
Starting point is 00:20:26 listen I mean I was a little worried too this morning because Lush sent us a video in the group chat of like so much blood on the ground in his apartment. And he told us it was this dude that he knows. But I couldn't understand based on the video how... What are you doing there?
Starting point is 00:20:51 I mean, it looked like a guy got killed. Like, it was like the most blood you ever seen. And I still don't know. I asked in the group, I'm like, what's that about? And what are you doing there? He said his homie punched a window and cut his whole arm open. And that's why he bled out like that. Wow.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Lush couldn't even be around them type of environments That's what I'm saying We gotta stop this You should be around the total opposite Because eventually It's going to drag you right back here That's what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:21:18 I'm trying to figure out how to avoid that What do you think about like a A rehab lock-in We get a bunch of junkies And we set up some beds here We do a live stream And we document the junkies That we lock in the no-jubber building
Starting point is 00:21:34 You mean some fresh junkies that haven't kicked yet? See, I was thinking that's the kind of the problem is that if they're like active drug users and then you just make them go cold turkey, they could like die from withdrawal symptoms. Probably we would need to have like some kind of doctor come and like talk to them every day or take a look at them. Listen, you're going to need somebody to search them real good because they're going to be cooping and keystering.
Starting point is 00:22:01 They're coming in there with some shit. I mean, Lush does that anyway. What? I saw Lus for the nitrous tank in his ass. Oh, my God. Dead homies. No, yeah, but it's crazy. I'm glad that you've...
Starting point is 00:22:16 DW Flames, folk. I just did D.W. I went to hike the whole hill as a fireman for him. I don't know if I'm going to be able to find the clip right now, but I'm assuming that if I look up DW Flame, Wack 100, maybe I could find it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, listen. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Hold on. And then we was on tour just now. Then there's an arches. We kept slapping that I'm not going to put his name out there. But the little kept getting slapped. By what? Yeah, on the tour. I'm talking.
Starting point is 00:22:57 No. And then he kept staying on the tour. Like, yeah, I was going. I would have shot that bitch up. What are you doing? Black was not hitting the one. Why are you? He was slapping the fuck.
Starting point is 00:23:05 If you bring it up like, I told the, you seem to. you seem like a cool he'll make music he's a nice he'll keep going right now yeah but I'm like hell you see that story's like to yeah you're
Starting point is 00:23:19 if I find out who you is I'm gonna expose you I'm keeping it real and when I see you I'm a smack you like whack do it once you get smack you keep on get smacked you keep on get smacked
Starting point is 00:23:30 I'm just bruh I hate this I feel like I'm like watching this kid's career who was that he's talking to is that real that was
Starting point is 00:23:38 DW Flames talking to King Yella and 607 Unk. Oh, oh, shit. I feel so bad. Like, I mean, this is- He did that about a month back. The interview? I remember 607 calling me telling me, he paid for DW's ticket and hotel,
Starting point is 00:23:55 and now he's a no-show, said, you call him for me. Oh, shit. So I don't know if D-W, I had to get D-W to go over there. D-W's grimy, though. He's over there talking about that shit, like as if that's not going to
Starting point is 00:24:09 f-en irreparably damaged brother's career? I mean, he said it was EK he shit it is. Well, they actually didn't say his name but then you had already said his name, so. Well, look, it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:24:21 You tricked me. You said they said the name. What's up with this fake Leonard shit, bro? Um, we've been going through it, but I don't know. I mean, honestly, me talking about it publicly, I feel like that
Starting point is 00:24:37 made me feel like we have a higher chance of working it out. So right now, I'm just really focused on trying to be the best partner I can be for her. I feel like I can possibly pull it together. So I guess you're getting home and you're just not doing nothing. Just being a piece of shit. I got to take over more of the household responsibilities and everything for sure. And I just got to be a little bit more present, nicer,
Starting point is 00:25:06 a little bit more friendly to be around. I'd just be like Monster Cody in there, just mean mugging, just looking around the house. Just. What the hell you be? You don't like me? Hey, bro, I'm going to be real. If that's the case,
Starting point is 00:25:20 I don't think you like it like that. No, I do. I'm just kidding. But I don't know. I mean, I just feel like our relationship. We just need a little bit of a reset right now. She's going to have a big week next week, though. Next week?
Starting point is 00:25:36 Yep. What? But what's going on next week? I shall not say, but you'll see. Well, I'll tell you what. You're doing what a lot of people done, help build and continue to build to where they get to a point.
Starting point is 00:25:56 They don't need you to build, and they get cocky. Do you think Len is cocky? And they start to forget where the bill came from. You think I should tell you that? You're just getting cocky. I went through it. And they start to forget where it all came from
Starting point is 00:26:19 or to push all who watered the seeds and they're in a place to where people respond to them regardless. And they start to say things and do things and act ways. I just hope she's not falling into that.
Starting point is 00:26:36 I went through it. No, she's got some fair point. about me and my behavior. But that being said, I'm going to tell her when I get home. You're just getting cocky. I think that'll probably be pretty productive. Well, you already talked about maybe a few weeks ago the things that you should be doing that you don't do.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Yeah, it's a journey. And helping around the house, I'm going to be real. The key to helping around the house is having a great, having great handyman in your phone book. that is i think part of it is that i think you know she's annoyed slash like it's not good for her state of mind about her relationship when she feels like she's the one calling the handyman she's the one calling the contractor she's the one dealing with the gardener the the the groundskeeper whatever it is you know it's like uh even though it's like a small commitment on a weekly basis
Starting point is 00:27:35 it's still like her being the main point of contact. I think that's part of the issue. We need to like balance out our workload better. Well, what she is going to have to do, she seems like she knows things her way. She's going to have to let you do it when you're doing it and not interfere how you're doing it. Because you may call, come out, yeah, cool.
Starting point is 00:28:02 And then she's like, no. I want it this way. Yeah, that's definitely part of the problem is that she's really, really competent when it comes to just getting things done. And meanwhile, I am a moron. And I tend to like mess things up more often than not when I'm doing like anything besides podcasting. But I think I need to like get more in touch with the version of myself that is capable of actually doing things. So it's a, it's a battle. It's a grind, but I think I'm going to get there.
Starting point is 00:28:36 The gardener and the pool guy comes from your neighbors. Whoever, their gardener and pool guy, you catch them, get a number. Boom. This is how you hired it. We've been in this house for like seven years, so we've probably had the same pool guy for like seven years. This is what I'm saying. So all these people, then you get you an electrician and a plumber and one handy, man. You're good.
Starting point is 00:29:02 They're good. But some things you do got to do on your own, bro. Like, you know, some things you can go fertilize the grass or, you know. Foot rub. You do the foot rub. Change the, yeah, the footrubs. Y'all do that. But that ain't you, though, but if he wants you to do it, that's not a deal breaker.
Starting point is 00:29:26 No, I'm going to figure it out. I'm going to keep working on it. I got a whole plan I'm putting together. I'm going to, it's a little difficult because it's like she's already got stuff so in order that I have to kind of like temporarily be a pain in the ass in order to like take stuff
Starting point is 00:29:42 over but I'm gonna figure it out I got a coach I got a mental load coach what he he specializes in this sort of thing there was actually a New York Times article about couples hiring mental load coaches who help to like balance out relationships between partners
Starting point is 00:30:02 as far as the household responsibilities and like the overall mental load of like having a child in particular. You know, you white people are real, y'all, I know, that's different. My mental load coach is also welcome to black customers, clients.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Yo, so you guys, somebody is going to teach you out of pretty much juggle responsibility. Well, I do think that anyone who watches my content over the years probably could acknowledge that I am a child and that I certainly need help transitioning into adulthood in any way.
Starting point is 00:30:39 So that's really what it's all about is like trying to figure out how to be a little bit more of a grown-up. What do you mean you're a child? What are you talking about? I experienced success at a very young age from doing a very childish thing, riding bikes, and never really had to grow up too much. So there's a lot of like response. A lot of coping mechanisms that like normal, capable adult humans have that I never really learned because I was always happy to just sort of like hire somebody to kind of like do all the stuff that I didn't want to do. And as a result, I think it's made me kind of useless as a person.
Starting point is 00:31:19 And I need to just like be a bit more capable, a little bit more eyes on my own business, my own family, household, etc. Hey, y'all. Adam, that's the bullshit, bro. Let me tell you. All right, let me give you another way of looking at this. Okay. If you would have applied yourself, y'all, how to be a handyman, how to fix the car,
Starting point is 00:31:41 how to fix all these things, and didn't apply yourself to what you did to be who you are today, Lina wouldn't be with you today. Yeah, I mean, maybe, but I still, I still, I want to grow as a human, whack. Bro, look, I don't do, I'm not. to pick up no shubble and dig up the pipes. But I will call the people to do it.
Starting point is 00:32:07 I don't think she expects me to be like fixing the underground pipes in our yard, if those even exist. So yeah, I could call the guy, yeah. Yeah, I mean, but now if you're not, if something happens and you're just like, all right, Leonard, get it handled, that can be a bit irritated. I think that that's the sort of vibe that she doesn't like in our relationship. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:31 When her car needs an oil change. Do you do it? Never have I done an oil change. She just drops it off at the dealership like I do. So do you take her car to the dealership? Do you? No, I would. I could.
Starting point is 00:32:46 I should volunteer to do that next time, though. That would be kind. That would be a nice gesture. Do you make sure her car is gassed up or does she do that? She keeps an eye on that, although, you know, I've done it. Yeah, my dad was big on that when I was a kid. In general, though, being that, like, right now, technically I'm, like, separated from her.
Starting point is 00:33:10 So, realistically, I could kind of put my dick inside of other humans. And having, like, the feeling that I could do that, I really don't want to do that. I really like being with her. I think I really want to focus my attention on her at this time. Okay. She do the same. and it's cool? In theory?
Starting point is 00:33:33 Sure, yeah. Okay. And you wouldn't be mad about it because she would say we were separated? I'll probably have to get my lick back. Yeah, y'all are different, bro. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:44 That's different. Yeah, we're different. So did you file for legal separation? No, nothing like that. No paperwork. Yeah, see, I got paperwork. Your shit ain't. You just...
Starting point is 00:33:55 No, you're getting divorced for real, for real. That's... What you're doing is a thing. I mean, listen, bro, the thrill is gone. When it's gone, it's gone. Haven't you been separated from her for like 10 years, damn there? No, I've been about five years. Five, okay.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Close to five years. So, but divorce court, it's easy. If you just both agree, it's a little difficult when people are trying to get things that is just not going to happen. Okay. This is like my question for you. picture when it comes to relationships and I'm not directly referencing my relationship, but this is just something that sometimes I think as a dude, a lot of us might end up in a relationship when you're in your 20s, when you're in your 30s, and then that relationship
Starting point is 00:34:50 falls apart at some point when you're kind of like in the middle of your life. Like if my relationship were to not work out right now, I would be a 42 year old bachelor. And many other people in similar positions, you, you became single when you were like 42 or 43 or whatever. Is it better to fix things and ride it out with the girl that you've been with for a decade plus? Or is it better to do kind of what you did, which is to, you know, find a, in R&B's case, she's not that much younger, but she definitely seems younger. girl is it better to stick it out with your day one or is it better to move on to a spring chicken
Starting point is 00:35:34 my situation a little different because mine started in my teens yeah 14 to 44 insane crazy run i think maybe the last six to eight years was me sticking out through obligation of my kids were still in the house. Nope, I think once you detect, you don't like him and he don't like you. And being at home is not a joyful, fun thing, and everything's always a problem. I think you should make this split right then.
Starting point is 00:36:15 No more obligation because of kids. Let them get used to what it's going to be because it's going to turn into that anyway. you're just going to be lost a lot of years that you could already be reestablished. You know, Leonard didn't really appreciate this idea, but I did tell her that I wanted to keep Blueface's streams on repeat in our house so that she can always be reminded that it could be worse. That's the fact.
Starting point is 00:36:46 And that's just real life. I just got off the phone with her. Yeah? Yeah. You know, I told her, hey. Stop calling and bugging him, bro. Oh, really? He's going to tell you some crazy shit.
Starting point is 00:37:02 He really don't care. Okay, so this is really about her getting the tattoo of NBA young boy, getting it covered up, but then telling Blueface that it was a tattoo of him? It's about him finding out from the world and not her. Right, which is crazy because he's been. for all these months. So, you know, she had the dang on her face. He didn't trip.
Starting point is 00:37:33 It was tattooed on her face. But I think it comes from, he's like, if you're going to lie about that, what else you lie about? Yeah, I mean, do you think that it's fair, or do you think that he should show her a little bit more grace just given that she is, you know, possibly postpartum, and has like a baby that's like, you know, less than a month old. Do you think you should chill or you think it's a fair response?
Starting point is 00:38:03 I mean, she lied about it before the post-partout. She lied about it, yeah, true. And then that was what pissed him off in the clip that I saw is that even once he confronted her about it, she basically was unwilling to admit it, even though, like, basically unless he presented her with the information, but she wasn't going to admit to it until he had her dead to rights.
Starting point is 00:38:31 And he felt like that was particularly shady. Well, he felt like if you lying about, because he tells her the truth. Yeah. He's like, hey, I'm going to go to the hotel. I got two chits. I might be back tomorrow. Later, I'll be back Monday.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Let's start telling Lennas shit like that. Hey, it's diabolical. I would never play those games with R&B. ever in life uh i think it would definitely be a a crime scene should we kill you or at least attack you if i ever just disappear and they can't find me for sure on b definitely had it done that's the fact yeah i mean but you can always kind of like push for more in your relationship and you could push for like extreme things like you know i could do a blue Blueface is done and say, hey, Lena, if I'm going to continue to be in this relationship with you,
Starting point is 00:39:35 you're going to have to deal with me just like going off and like bang girls, streaming girls, like for days at a time while you take care of the kid. And, you know, I think in her case, she would almost certainly just like immediately tell me to fuck off. But, you know, you could always try to push for extreme terms in your relationship. Well, I think the thing about it is those have always been. his terms. Yeah, he never really like lied along the way. No, he never said it's just me and you.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Yeah. He's always said it's the circus. Right. Oh, hold on. I want to, oh, basically attorney Rosenberg, who's representing four extra, he posted on Instagram and said, four extra will be released.
Starting point is 00:40:24 D.A. reject. Oh, good shit. So Spodyface today on the news said that the DA has not formally filed charges yet either. Well, maybe it was a premature arrest or an arrest to get a warrant and catch him with something on him. Yeah, because you've seen the way they was pulling Spodyface over the other day, searching the whip, trying to find guns and shit. Now, I was asking, is Sportyface still on probation or parole? Because if he's not being violated his rights, all of them.
Starting point is 00:41:04 I don't know. I have no idea. He definitely knew how to handle that when he was verbally telling him, I don't get you consent. I think he needs to calm down once they pull him out. Don't give him reason to, you know, unaligned him and choke him out. But I was telling myself, somebody sent them at him. Because he was just sitting in the car, bro.
Starting point is 00:41:28 That's the vibe you got from that video? Sitting in the car, they didn't say he was swatting. And they went to the extreme. They never told him why they was pulling him over or asking him to get out. Somebody told him he was dirty. I had something. They thought they had.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Very interesting. I mean, Flacco, said that he, okay, Flacco said that the body that for extra cot was during the 100 days, 100 nights thing in 2015. That's what Flacco said. But then we end up finding out that it's not even a body. It's an attempt. Well, you know, Flacco's lining up the area, the era of when this happened, when that happened.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Really, that's the era of when the 60s and the 40s was clashed. Right. Right. Had none of doing 100 days, 100. But again, bro, he may want to open his eyes up because somebody's talking. If they're going to prison questioning Jay Hood's people about a body, they're arresting you about a body. Your name's in the air.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Right. I would, at some point, he has to walk away, bro. I'm telling you, you got to walk away. From the streets? You, look, Adam, this is real shit. Everything about the streets is a gamble and a risk. When you go over there with your homies, you got to be a certain way. The gamble the cops may come catch you.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Gamble your ops may hit the block catch you. It's the gamble of anything that could possibly happen will happen. And it's cool when you're young. dumb, and you're trying to make a name for yourself. But when you become a trophy, four extras is a trophy for the rolling for you. He's a guy that if a young dude just got put on could unaligned, he gets infant rep.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Bro. Trophies go on the shelves. In the case, you can't just sit it on the corner. There's nothing else four extra could do, but die or catch life, posting and roaming the hood all the time, bro. There's nothing else.
Starting point is 00:44:13 You can't achieve success. Well, you can't achieve none of those things in the ghetto as a gang member. But hey, he's a guy who loves this community. He loves being amongst his people. And I agree that it's short-sighted because his community, as much as he might love it, has some very nasty aspects to it that will follow him specifically because of his past.
Starting point is 00:44:41 I understand why he wants to spend time there and everything, but, I mean, that's the least of his worries right now since he's got this charge hanging over his head. Yeah, well, at some point, bro, he got to wake up. Yeah. No, that's a fact. He got to wake up. I've been on 27 years, bro. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:04 And I had at least 50, 60 phone calls of what happened at the locations that I would have been at if I was just outside in the hood. Right. You missed out on a lot of good bangouts. Yo, question. Explain the clip to me where you were like aggressively warning academics about his behavior. What exactly did academics do in his coverage? of the Little Dirk trial that you felt was a little over the line? Well, he went on there and said,
Starting point is 00:45:43 me and Little Dirk's interview was all stripped it. Now, as soon as he did that, the defense attorney went into, we need to include this clip of academics saying these things because you guys included this clip of one of a little Dirk said you don't hear nobody saying Slavlov Favon anymore. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Right. Act saying it was scripted, and I'm telling act, they will use that for grounds for appeal. And if they do, they're going to summon you subpoena you to come get on the stand. Right. Now, at this
Starting point is 00:46:27 point in time, are you going to say yes, it was scripted? and be potentially telling a lie or you're going to get up there and say I was just trolling. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:43 If you get up in a lie, now you're putting yourself in a situation where they can find you, you know, that you're lying on the stand and book you. Now you go to prison. So why play with? Right.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Look, fuck what little dirt got going on. I tell people, about it, but with you, if Adam asked you a question that you think is outrageous and incriminating, just look at it. I remember you had a guess, X4. Everything you asked X4 about anything, had anything to do with anything, he would just look at you. He wouldn't even answer it.
Starting point is 00:47:25 He's a shooter. If you choose to answer that, that ain't on Adam to go clean it up. bro think about how fucked up that is though that like x4 and 4 extra could both end up doing lengthy sentences for these things so it's like for a moment there it felt like the photies was just up about to have this moment they had two trophies with like kind of almost the same name and then all of a sudden nope sorry um bro again x4 was still money look bro when you got some type of going, you have to remove yourself from that, bro. I'm sorry, to the streets of LA. The labels don't care about your street credit and how many homies is out of video. Really, they're looking at that now like it's a liability. You have to step away from that shit.
Starting point is 00:48:22 If you got something going on for yourself, you can't open up a podcast, have a building, and it's moving. And then you're telling all the homies come, congregate here. Yeah. Can it do it? No, facts. But so how are you feeling about the Dirk verdict at this moment given that we're like almost at
Starting point is 00:48:43 the end of day three of the jury's deliberations? How are you feeling about how this is going to go? The longer it goes, the more favorable it is for Dirk. Right. KPD, they was in there, hour and a half. two hours. Yeah. They're back there going back and forth.
Starting point is 00:49:07 It's one or a group of people who ain't buying it. Right. It's in favor. If they make the weekend, I think he's going to walk. Yeah, because a mistrial is pretty uncommon in the feds. It's like about 2% of the time will a mistrial actually take place. But it's hard to imagine that they're all in there and that, you know, know that they're in any sort of agreement, you know?
Starting point is 00:49:35 Like if everybody was leaning towards guilty, they'd already be back. It's like there's got to be people holding out. Will those people be able to be convinced one way or the other? I mean, it's tough, but as of right now... What's going on is you have a group of people who's saying he's guilty. How I know is they're asking the judge for documents. Right. This group of people is saying, no, this is saying.
Starting point is 00:50:02 and we don't remember that. Okay, we're going to get that to try to show them the reason why they're staying guilty. I think it's going to be a hung jury. If he makes the weekend, if those people don't come back to date, for sure, hung jury.
Starting point is 00:50:19 They're not going to find him guilty. Right. And the judge, the judge, bro. The judge is, well, he, what he's saying is in favor of, of Dirk. Paying for plane tickets, paying for a hotel room, and a rental car is not enough to say it's murder for hire. If Cuando Rondo was not in fear because he knew he was being stalked,
Starting point is 00:50:51 there's not a stalking case there. Now what they do have is the text message, what Cuando saying, let's kill the beat, and Dirk saying, we can do that with this switch. They can use that. They got the witnesses up there with text messages and phone calls saying what type of performance they're going to get. They also got this dude, Didi, who has his own, or Vani, who has his own personal reasons to want to unaligned this dude because King Bond was his homie. Jam don't even know King Bond, but Jam, he looking like he's running to play too, and he's putting out, putter messages,
Starting point is 00:51:34 and all this crazy stuff. Nobody's credible, and the judge made it clear. If these things aren't in place, if you can't show a paper trail, a pan for the murder, it's not murder for hire. And for them to be back there a couple days,
Starting point is 00:51:52 and if they go the weekend, I don't think the bird is coming in until Tuesday Wednesday. They would have cast. back today already. After lunch. Okay. My question, though, is a lot of people seem to think that if he does somehow beat these charges, that he will then have either the feds come back about additional murders that they'd like to charge him with or state charges in Chicago. Specifically, there's a
Starting point is 00:52:22 Stefan Mack murder that took place that people seem to think that they would be able to make a pretty good case that Dirk was responsible for that. Is that common? place that they would lose and already have a plan ready to go for other stuff that they could charge you for? The internet and the people, they don't know shit about these other murders. The fans didn't even know shit about a lot of this until Jam, stupid ass, who was looking at three to five, told them. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:56 They wasn't even investigating, they wasn't investigating it like that, right? So to say they know about all these other murders all of a sudden, right? And they got all these facts and details. They're going to be real skeptical on charging him with some things that they just don't have an ironclad case on. It's a slap in the face that they're deliberating like this. Because the federal government allowed the AUSA to bring the charges. And by the way it looks and what we seem here, trap lord and Setti Nash come out and report on,
Starting point is 00:53:41 it was a lot of wobblers in there, bro. Well, okay. It wasn't as ironclad as we thought it was. The Stefan Mack thing specifically, though, police have already public, or federal investigators have already publicly tied Lil Durk to their theory of that homicide. He was killed in December or in January,
Starting point is 00:54:00 2020 in an FBI search warrant affidavit. Investigators allege that after Dirk's brother, Dante Banks Jr. was killed. Dirk was offering money to have gangster disciples killed. Prosecutors have also cited communication between suspects and Max killing that allegedly referenced Dirk in OTF. Dirk has not been charged and his attorneys have denied involvement. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Listen, everybody knows his brother got killed. Everybody knows what could have went this way. Do they have the killers? Two other men have already been charged in connection with his killing. Have these men finger dirt? That we do not know, and you would think that they would probably be keeping that information close to their chest at this time if they did have that. I think his ass would already have had a charge. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:55 You get what I'm saying? Because guess what? Know what that does for Dunk in L.A.? for a jury to see you not only have these charges or Beverly Hills hit, but you got pending murder charges in Chicago. But they would probably try them separately because this one in L.A. with Juan de Orlando and Lopad, that was such a specific thing, right?
Starting point is 00:55:16 Like why try those together? No, it's not try them together. It's the whole perception of you got a murder charge here in L.A. from Beverly Hills. and you got a pending murder charge here in Chicago. The juror starts looking at this dude like he's the, why wouldn't they put the charge there? Right, right, okay. You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:55:40 Yeah. So, you know, from what I knew, Chicago said they wasn't pursuing it. So we're going to see if he got a hung jury here and that doesn't happen there. it's kind of like Big you with his murder charge. Right. You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:56:02 You see they said he is being charged with his murder. They want it on the table. It feels so cheap with all these mist trials like the Lindsay Clancy
Starting point is 00:56:14 situation mistrial. Y&W. Melly a couple years ago mistrial. If this one is a mistrial, I'm going to be pissed. Like I want a conclusive
Starting point is 00:56:26 ending to these stories, not to just have these people be locked up for a couple decades so they could try it two or three times. Yvonne W. Mellie, he's had two mist trials, right? I think only one. He's been in there like nine years, bro. Yeah, eight years, something like that. Yeah, it's terrible. He was like one of the great talents of the SoundCloud era, and we were never able to see what he could really make of his potential.
Starting point is 00:56:51 And especially, like, at the time that he got locked up, he had just had the crazy Kanye West collab that really signified that his career was going to be taken to the next level and then nothing up we lost him all right pwack the feds got him feds did a sweep we uh huh are you serious that's what academic the same right now whack just left shut up dark not or Dirk not guilty. No way. There you go. Bro.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Oh, there's one out. Bro. Academics just announced not guilty for Dirk. That's what it, no. That's what it came back?
Starting point is 00:57:47 Or just what he said? I just want to, I just want to confirm. But I guess that's what act's saying right now. Everybody's calling me. Chicago. Oh, okay. Look, Megan Cuniff said, what's it say? It says, we can't go in yet because we are waiting for the security officer who will want us all for a little. Well, okay. So I guess they have a verdict. Maybe. The cargo is blowing my phone up right now. I don't know why people think that it's not guilty, though. I haven't actually. Okay, but the verdict is in. Academics tweeted the verdict is in, we will know in five minutes. Oh, they don't know yet.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Yeah, why. Let me see what they just texted me. But yeah. Everybody's posting saying that there is a verdict. They said everyone not guilty. That's crazy. This girl said 10 minutes ago, she said, it's looking like we will not have a verdict today,
Starting point is 00:58:51 which means deliberations would continue on Monday, but I guess that's not true. Dan, this is insane that we're going to know in like minutes. And here goes this crease. Everyone not guilty. Yeah, I've seen a ton of people say that, but I'm just a little worried that we're jumping the gun. Some people are saying that it's not guilty.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Some people are saying that it's just that the verdict's in. Yeah, like Trappler-Raw said, looks like the verdict's in, lawyers rushing to the court, and everyone is lining up. Wow. So it's not in. So right now, we are at a moment in time where we could potentially find some crazy shit out or,
Starting point is 00:59:36 well, I guess either way, we're going to find some crazy shit out because I guess we're probably going to have the verdict in like five minutes. But I need you to keep an eye on it, so I don't have to be just staring out at the whole time. Yeah, my phone's going nuts. Everybody's saying not guilty. I feel like they might be being overly optimistic.
Starting point is 00:59:55 It will be real. If dirt comes back, not guilty, and walks at him, I know this sounds crazy. I think him being free for the last two and a half three years is not, I think him being locked up,
Starting point is 01:00:13 fighting this is going to make him a bigger artist than he would have if he would have been free. Yeah, I mean, honestly, even just him becoming the biggest drill artist of all time and then going down for murder
Starting point is 01:00:31 for hire, that's legendary shit, regardless of what happens. That's like one of the craziest stories in hip-hop history. If he beats it, he is immortalized as just an icon for having beat the feds. Like, I mean, they still talk, the way they talk about Irv Gotti when he dies, one of the first things they say about him is he took the feds on and he won. That's so iconic, especially given how much evidence, how many people snitched. Think about how many people. Think about how many people. people snitched and weren't able to take him down if it's actually not guilty. It's going to be kind of ironic if it is guilty. I think, I really think this situation happening will make him bigger than he would have been
Starting point is 01:01:18 if he would have never been arrested and just have been home doing his regular little dirt shit. Yeah, I mean, to a certain extent, he was a regular rapper before this. You know, after this, it's like he's a rapper who's a rapper who's showing. survived the craziest shit. This is what I'm saying. Look, with urban music on the decline the way it has been,
Starting point is 01:01:42 it's kind of like if he gets to not guilty, his trials and tribulations saved him from getting caught up in that drop of album only doing 30K, 20K, to where
Starting point is 01:01:57 yeah, you're locked up, you went through some things, you had great friends, Drake, Kanye, people like that come help you with your lawyer fees. You have great support. And now you're coming home to where I think the doors of opportunity
Starting point is 01:02:13 going to be pitiful. That is unless they end up putting more charges on him. But yeah, assuming he keeps his legal situation good, for sure. He could be a crazy icon. They're going to be very skeptical about playing with him with charges with hearsay with a little dude.
Starting point is 01:02:31 over here who really didn't talk to him, but another dude talked to him saying, high shit. They're not going to play with him like that, because if he goes in for a second one, one, I think they'll give him a bell on his next one. Two, if he beats the government back to back because they're choosing to utilize information
Starting point is 01:02:57 because they're that thirsty, it won't be good. for sure but again the longer they go the more favorite is of dirt the streets are saying not guilty the verdict's not in I think hung jury that's what you think I don't think it's the not guilty across the board
Starting point is 01:03:17 I think it would have taken longer to really arrive at a hung jury like three days I don't know bro it's obviously somebody been back there not seeing it their way they're requesting shit from the judge and documents. And I think with the
Starting point is 01:03:35 home jury, you know, maybe they give him a bond. I mean, they didn't do it for Mellie, but he's in the state. He's not dealing with the feds. I mean, even if he was on house arrest, the idea of Derek just being able to record music would be insane.
Starting point is 01:03:53 What do you think? You think? What you think? I've said the whole time, I think he's guilty. I think they're going to find him guilty. I mean, I don't know. It's still just hard for, for me to imagine a bunch of normal people on the jury looking at all these people snitching on Dirk and not going for it.
Starting point is 01:04:10 But hey, I don't wish jail upon him at all. I hope he makes it out. Yeah, I think, listen, man, everybody was playing a part. I even hear Lopop was saying some disrespectful shit, you know, about things I was going on. Oh, yeah, they were smoking on, Vaughn. Yeah, my, yeah. My feelings about being remorseful for people that's playing parts and shit, you ain't going to get that from me at all.
Starting point is 01:04:40 You know what I'm saying? I would love to see the look on Mama Doug's face if he's not guilty. Oh, my God. Worst day ever if you're Mama Duck. Bro. If you want what he need to do, go turn into a chicken. That's the fact. Wow.
Starting point is 01:05:01 No, because you don't even know, like, throughout Chicago drill history, it's been so one-sided where the BDs, which is Chief Keefe, Lil Dirk, King Vaughn, etc., have just been basically like the only Chicago drill rappers to experience any kind of mainstream success besides a glimmer of hope with FBG Duck, who then obviously got killed. kind of at the height of his popularity. But, like, the BDs already just seem like they've got, kind of got a horseshoe up their ass. And by that, I mean, they're just lucky. There's a chosen, the chosen gang. If Little Dirk can beat the feds, come on now.
Starting point is 01:05:52 That's crazy. Little Dirk and Chief Kee, how's their relationship? I really didn't keep my way. bad historically but allegedly they were kind of getting cool and everything around the time that Dirk got locked up but then also after Dirk got locked up there was rumors of Chief Keefe saying this and that that was disrespectful about Little Dirk so it's kind of up in the air do you want to hit another topic or two while we kind of wait for the verdict to come in yeah we definitely got to get this verdict bro we got to get this verdict I'll tell you what
Starting point is 01:06:28 Um, this shit out here is Blue Girls Club kickstream. Oh, yeah. Hey, bro. These are some crazy ass with you in the house, I would sit back and just watch your expressions. It's assing pitties everywhere. They fighting, arguing. One minute, these three clicked up. The next minute, she's throwing her out the room.
Starting point is 01:06:57 This shit is. crazy. Blue face is hugging and loving and and I'll be trying to fuck them, honestly. I mean, they don't get fucking. They're indifferent about sex
Starting point is 01:07:13 with random men? Wow. Sounds like my types. Bro, now it's like it was eight of them, went to nine back to eight, two more flew in last night. Things are up to 11, 12,
Starting point is 01:07:31 what's the goal is the goal to find one and turn her into a star is the goal for him to fall in love with one of them what's the goal? No we want to find one and turn it into a streamer a streamer okay yeah we don't want to do the rapper shit no more that's just
Starting point is 01:07:49 you know hip hop is I ain't to say hip hop's dead rap music is still alive but the hip hop element of what we knew that to be nobody gives a about the foundation of it, the structure of it, to whatever of it, nobody cares.
Starting point is 01:08:07 We're in a whole new world now. We're in the TikTok age. And yeah, you might, you know, if we all have foundational memories. Obviously, I come in the game a little bit more on the tail end of it, but we had this whole era where everybody was just worshipping the rappers who were the best rappers. And everybody out there, you'll be doing yourself a service if you've, realize that that era is over.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Yo, this new song, I forget the name of it. It's a rapper. He comes to no jumper, but it's like some white boy shit. They're playing in the club, everybody goes crazy. What's it called? The AI song, Phoenix Flexon? Yeah, it's the AI song. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Right? Shut up to you for finding out about this right now. This is what I'm saying. And I think me and you kind of went back and forth about this shit. I'm like, Adam. It ain't nothing. one. Cuban Rob
Starting point is 01:09:03 has about a hundred AI songs that smashes but he really goes in and does him
Starting point is 01:09:10 and then he whatever the fuck he does what the AI he does but bro I'm in the
Starting point is 01:09:16 clubs out here this shit's spinning all night for real I felt like the thing was kind of done
Starting point is 01:09:22 they're going nuts and I'm like I was just telling Adam bro if they
Starting point is 01:09:30 liked the song, they don't give a fuck. Where it comes? This by the hip-hop element of who you are and your style and your this and that. They don't get a fuck about that. There's a great song. You should check out too called We Are Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk. It goes like this. We are Charlie Kirk. We carry the flame. I like Charlie Kirk. You know why? Because he hated black people. is the white Crip or Blood. Charlie Kirk
Starting point is 01:10:07 was probably killed by his own for what he stood for. I think he was killed by a liberal, right? Look, bro. I bet he was killed by a white guy. Yeah, but like
Starting point is 01:10:22 a white guy who was like ideologically opposed to everything that he was about, I think. Cripping and blood. You get what I'm saying? There is. A Russian or maybe a Black dude or Mexican or Asian, different.
Starting point is 01:10:39 This is a dude who still, and I fuck with him because he lets you know exactly who he is. I like people like that. He's letting you know who he is. Bro, whether you like it or not, you know what you're dealing with. And guess what? That was one aspect of it. It was probably other aspects that you could have did some business with him, right?
Starting point is 01:10:59 I'm not going to hold that against them because none of us are detained. But he was killed, putting in his work by his own people from the opposite side. Pose his eye. Cripping blood. Same shit. He's a representation of that when it comes to your people, Adam. Thank you for that insight.
Starting point is 01:11:21 Yo, what's up with this journalist kid, Denot, who, uh, why, why are you beefing with him? It's D-A-N-A-T, if anybody wants to look it up. Look, and this white is this is funny. He's from clubhouse. Okay. They're not comes from clubhouse. He got ran off a clubhouse about two years ago, and he went to YouTube.
Starting point is 01:11:48 Why did they run him off? He's supposed to be in gay. They found videos of him banging this old white dude that had hemorrhoids. Allegedly. No, they know allegedly. They got the videos. I can have R&B called the clubhouse ladies. They will send you the videos.
Starting point is 01:12:05 this was crazy. Ain't no, what they call this shit, the, what people, where they bring charges because you're sharing, this is on the internet, dumb ass.
Starting point is 01:12:17 You can't say, oh, man, you're threatening me with this. No, you put this on the internet. It's the site you can pay for it. They're not, it's an openly gay duty,
Starting point is 01:12:29 got exposed. So he wasn't openly gay at one point? No, not at one point. He wasn't. And then it came out, and then the more it came out, they started digging and digging on the dark side and the trenches side, the clubhouse, not the Hunter's side. And they found the videos of him banging an old white dude, no exaggeration. Him Roy's out his ass, and they said he's banging him wrong.
Starting point is 01:12:56 I'm going to get you the videos, bro. I swear, no lie. I love that. No lie. Why? But so, man, banging like a hemorrhoid butthole sounds crazy. Bro, he got him on his back, legs back. So the ladies are saying, you can see what his rhodom sack is,
Starting point is 01:13:15 and you can see what the other shit is. And the not standing there, you can see full body to not penetrate the dude. So what's crazy about that is that I'm assuming he was still in the closet in 2020. too, right? He was out. Well, he was out. They had already found some other shit on him. And not some Florida, like a plastic city, Florida, a little small town, not too many people.
Starting point is 01:13:43 But look, he was a great person. He was out of his clubhouse. He talked this shit so much. He threatened the owners of clubhouse, so they kicked him off. Wow. Because, okay, so for people at home who are kind of confused why we're talking about this random, like, want to be online journalist kid, he basically DMed me like Wack was beefing with him
Starting point is 01:14:03 I see his account I click on it I see that it says he follows me I clicked to see if we ever had any DMs and we did a whole post on the no jumper Instagram account but basically this guy did not had like DMs me multiple times over the years on Twitter and Instagram telling me that he wanted to F me in my big fat ass he wanted to bank you and he listed crazy he's a predator like that when it comes to men because on clubhouse
Starting point is 01:14:33 he used to say shit to men that was crazy so people wouldn't even go in his face look he's good at talking shit I tried to help him a gang of times I let him interview Christiana and Blueface for the first time in his life on Clubhouse but he couldn't cut it
Starting point is 01:14:51 Christian didn't want to talk to him no more I had to get him on stage but I think bro he's just And what I don't like about he plays is tough shit But then he runs I'm gonna call the cops There's some diabolical shit
Starting point is 01:15:06 Going on in the world Right Beware of these dudes That are super tough But the first thing Out they mouth Lush is one of them I'm gonna report shit
Starting point is 01:15:16 Right But wasn't this Wasn't this guy one of your booty goons At one point You would actually send him to fight Other gay people? No, never Oh
Starting point is 01:15:25 No I trolled with him with academics one time. Oh yeah, you said you were going to have him go fight Saucy Santana for you. Yeah, I was just trolling. I mean, I've never seen to not fight. Will he fight? I think he'll fight.
Starting point is 01:15:40 I don't think the dudes are a punk or nothing like that. I think he's overly emotional, but he's a gay dude that's not in control of his emotions. Like, he's not one of those dudes. He's not a Jason leader where he's a gay dude that's a man.
Starting point is 01:15:56 Just like, you're not and get a rise out of Jason like that. This dude, I think he's still kind of like not confused. He knows he's not years because he came out calling me gay. And I'm like, bro, what do you mean I'm gay? You're the fucking gay one. And when I said it in there, did you forget they have the videos of you banging the old white dude with hemorrhoids? It's you.
Starting point is 01:16:18 Oh, this is, you're threatening me. No, dummy, it's already up on the internet. They brought it. Yeah. He sold it. What are you talking about? The weird part was that he was that he was. was saying that he was going to sue me for exposing my private conversation with him,
Starting point is 01:16:34 which I never even opened the DM. It was just you telling me that you wanted to bang me. How are you going to sue me for exposing your weird little fantasies that you're having in my DMs? And for the record, this is not something that happens to me a lot. Once in a while, I'll look at my DMs and see some gay dudes saying some horny stuff to me. But it doesn't happen that much. I was pretty shocked to see it in there. Yeah, bro, I would like when you, when you when I, when you showed it to me, I'm like, yeah, that's him.
Starting point is 01:17:04 You know, you got you got a few gay dudes that's on the club. I was like, Stevie, Stevie Nunez who did not run some guys like him because they pack him up. Like they like, now it's gay for gay. You can't, you know, with us, you get to say it too much that we kind of, ah, we get away from them. With them, you can't use the gay toolbox over because they're gay. Right. Like, he runs from those type of dudes, but the straight people, he'll come in their face and say a bunch of egregious shit.
Starting point is 01:17:36 And then when we strike back, the way we do strike back, then it's, I'm calling the cops. He texts me. I'm making a police report. Now, I don't give a fuck what kind of reports you make against me, a little dummy. Then he's on the thing threatening the, he calling the police. police on trap Lord Washington here. I know. It's pretty funny how we like tried to do the clubhouse
Starting point is 01:17:58 thing. Didn't really work out. I got banned. And then he tried to reinvent himself as a court reporter, but then he got exposed for actually being like a really, really horny, creepy, like, I don't want to say rupus, but like the messages kind of felt like, like, dude, I'm straight. Are you like,
Starting point is 01:18:15 you're kind of sort of like threatening me? You're going to take my cheeks, I guess. I don't know. Yeah. And not only that. First he went to YouTube, didn't work. He tried to become a pro-Christian or then he went to Justice For Ronnie. That didn't work. Wow. Now he says, okay, I see Trappler-Rawr-Sim down there.
Starting point is 01:18:36 He showed up to a Ray J. court date, tried to show up to some blueface court dates. Dude was so filthy. I realized he was sleeping in his car when I seen the trash bags full of clothes. Like, he has a little bitty Mercedes that I've never. seen like a two-door. I don't even know what it is. Maybe he put the Mercedes badges as a toy. I don't know what it is, but he was so stinky. The damn bailiff dude blocked him from coming to the court down to Van Nuys court. He was smoky. You know, you see a
Starting point is 01:19:09 dude and he looks grimy, he kind of looks like, you know, it's been a couple days, and the underarm part of the shirt is kind of slouching and, you know, sleepy in his eyes. But the judge, the Vailiff was like, bro, you can't come in here, bro. You got to go get the hygiene right. And then now I've seen he pop up. First, he was in regular clothes. He see Traplor coming in the suit and tie.
Starting point is 01:19:32 I'll look up a couple days later. He has on the suit and tie. It's hilarious, bro. It's like he always tries too late. Or he's the last one to the party and everybody's leaving. Traplor is the icon out here, man. He's showing all these court reporters how to do it. That's the fact.
Starting point is 01:19:50 You got, you got to give a tilt to Settie Nash, too. SETI did his shit. And I need Trap Lord knowledge that, so we kind of hooked up with him. They made a sit-out thing, but thank God for Trap because he let us know what was really going on in the court building, bro. Yeah, yeah. He put it together in nice bite-sized chunks.
Starting point is 01:20:09 Yo, according to my team, the jury, or excuse me, all non-family members have been removed from the courtroom at this time. I don't know if that's, That means that they're about to read the verdict just to the family and the people who are charged? That means the verdict hasn't come in. Kiddo Curry, I know Dirk is your man. You love him to death. You didn't text me ten times talking about all of them not guilty.
Starting point is 01:20:36 I hope he's not guilty. The verdict's not in yet, brother. This is what the streets do. I think the verdict did it. Friends, friend, you jump on the line, say it. They prioritized all family members to go in first. But what, you don't think there is a verdict? We've been misled?
Starting point is 01:20:54 Oh, there is. There is a verdict. They got a verdict. I don't think they're ready. Yeah, not yet. So that means they're going to let family members in to assure all the other guys who shouldn't be there aren't taking their seats and family members not left outside.
Starting point is 01:21:12 You know what the weird thing about this is that if he is found not guilty, he is going to be viewed as some sort of like profit. of peace and Islam. And in reality, he will still have been a guy who ordered murders. But he's going to somehow become an icon of peace. He's going to be the black John Gotti. Remember, John is getting charged and beating the fans
Starting point is 01:21:48 in a bunch of serious cases. Right. He's going to be, his next album should be, Mr. Or Tetchum. Yeah, no, something like that for show. The Teflon Don. Anyway, the Taflon Karan.
Starting point is 01:22:04 Anyway, so a big update for the people out there. We covered last week, I believe, about how Nory and Vlad are at each other's throats. After years of being cool, Vlad had a very viral appearance on drink champs. But now they are not cool, and it's all because Nori was basically given Vlad the runaround for years and years not going on Vlad TV.
Starting point is 01:22:31 This very, it was very, very upsetting to Vlad. So they've been going at it, going back and forth. Nori tried to call him a racist, etc. It really felt like publicly the tide of public opinion was on Vlad's side,
Starting point is 01:22:45 which was kind of surprising just because I think when you think about who's like the more beloved hip-hop figure. I would have always thought that it would have been Norrie. But it feels like Vlad just had a more logical argument and people ended up kind of having the same reaction I had, which was like, wow, Nori looks fake. Nori looks like he's like a person that doesn't have the balls to say what he really thinks to somebody
Starting point is 01:23:06 and we'll just give him the runaround. Well, in the midst of all that, in the midst of Vlad publicly talking shit about Nori and Nori publicly talking shit about Vlad, all of a sudden Vlad gets hit, or excuse me, Norrie gets hit with a lawsuit from, I believe, 1999 from Nas's ex, well, Nas's baby mama claiming that Norrie sexually violated her in 1999.
Starting point is 01:23:36 We could read through the article if you really want to get the details right, but basically, allegedly he was at a party, tried to like, you know, Nori tried to like put his, his hand up or dress or something like that. And then she runs outside. He ends up kind of chasing her. down and he ends up realizing that it says Nas's baby mama or Nas'
Starting point is 01:23:56 ex-girlfriend or whatever. This woman Vlad actually interviewed her before and this woman was at the time dating both Nas and Jay-Z and apparently Jay-Z was so upset about this story about Norrie
Starting point is 01:24:12 allegedly like fingering her or touching her inappropriately that Jay-Z wanted to go do something violent to Nori and she actually convinced him to leave it alone. Insane story. Is that true? Because Vlad starts saying he was trolling.
Starting point is 01:24:29 Okay, Vlad did a video responding to this, and when you're watching the video, he starts describing how when he interviewed this girl, that she shared a whole story about Nori sexually assaulting her, and Vlad says that he took it out the interview, but he secretly kept it. and I'm watching this just thinking Vlad, what is wrong with you?
Starting point is 01:24:52 Like, you're a terrible person if you secretly kept the recording of this woman speaking about Nori saying that he's sexually assaulted and you're going to now release it. I'm like, Vlad, what is wrong with you? And then at the end of it, Vlad's like, I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 01:25:07 That was a joke. I didn't really do that. And I was like, oh, okay, you got me. If he would have let that float, bro, and I'd probably, Norie's brother, I talked to Norie and I talked to Nooy's brother. Norrie's brother was totally against Norrie's
Starting point is 01:25:26 anything about the women, even mentioning Blatt's women. Right. He said, because I'm mad about it, but I can't be because my brother initiated that. I'm like this, knowing my guy, but fucking Nori, if you told Vlad, come out here to Miami, do drink champs, and then in turn, I'm going to do one. for you and a couple years went by one or two, five different times where you're telling
Starting point is 01:25:54 them I'll be there this day, whatever, whatever, and you're no showing or changing. At some point, bro, the man's going to get irritated. And then when he got irritated and text you about it, you use that to say, well, fuck you, I'm not doing it. Right. You see what I'm saying? But the weird thing is that Norie thought, because like when you, that account is basically like how to be a bad person one-on-one.
Starting point is 01:26:21 Lead people on. Don't keep it real with people. Be dishonest. Be kind of a snake. And Norrie basically like explained how that is exactly what he did. But he thought that people were still going to side with him because A, I think that if you're Norrie, you're just used to being kind of the cool guy, the popular guy that people like.
Starting point is 01:26:39 I don't know. But also like Nori thought that by calling Vlad a racist with seemingly like no evidence that that was going to be like a kill shot. And the truth is, is that just calling a white person racist doesn't really hit the way it used to unless you've got some sort of specific details. Glad has two black children with one on the way. Yeah. He chose to cross his bloodline, his Jewish bloodline, with a blonde woman, women twice. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:14 I mean, he openly always talks about it, like basically only has ever dated women of color. or, you know, calling them racist, you got to come with the specifics. I didn't get the, yo, try not putting black people up. Try not putting black people up on your site. It's like, bro, that's like telling Spotify, delete your urban section. Right.
Starting point is 01:27:44 Like, bro, like, I don't know, nor is my guy. Love him to death. Knowing I'm in Miami, I need to come see your ass face to face. We got some other things we're supposed to talk about anyway. But I just think he dealt with this wrong. I think if he told Vlad to come out here and I'll come do your show, you obligated to that as a man. You come and say Rick Ross and coach your bolcher and all these things in 2026,
Starting point is 01:28:15 as if you didn't sit down with him in 2015, 2017, 2024, where Rick Ross shit happened in 2007 or 8 is like, no, bro, Norie, this ain't true. Like, just say, look, bro,
Starting point is 01:28:32 my scheduling was fucked up. Maybe I was doing some other things. Because look, Norie has told me he's coming to do our show. So I know Norrie, though. I'm going to run into him. At the hotel in Beverly Hills, like I always do.
Starting point is 01:28:46 Whack, I haven't forgot about you. You know I'm going to come. Dashtonori. But for Black, he spent 8 to 10 grand, and he ain't lying. First class tickets, $3,000. Sweet after Ritz,
Starting point is 01:29:01 I'm in a very large suite right now. This motherfucker is huge. Right? Right. I know what this shit costs. Right? It's not the holiday inn in Glendale? Yeah, black car,
Starting point is 01:29:13 all this is security, whatever he got going on. I mean, bro, Lord, you my God. I love you to death. But in this situation, you're wrong, bro. If you were to just did what you agreed to, we wouldn't be in this face right now. Yeah, and I mean, I just don't understand
Starting point is 01:29:34 how he thought that he was going to come off as the good guy in that whole exchange. I mean, do you feel like this lawsuit from this, woman, which granted 1999, 27 years ago, I guess there are witnesses, but there's probably not going to be any kind
Starting point is 01:29:55 of physical evidence. I mean, is it likely to go anywhere? It's not like he are... It's not like he graped her. You know, he... No, bullshit. Her description of it, right. Okay, digital penetration. Yeah. That ain't digital.
Starting point is 01:30:11 What you mean? Digits means fingers, too. It's physical, God damn it. Okay. So digital. He's talking about it. I think it's a money move, but Norrie, as cocky as Norrie is,
Starting point is 01:30:28 Norrie's going to take her to the box. He ain't settling. He ain't, whatever the attorney is going to cost him, going to cost him. He ain't going to say, I can settle for $150,000 and keep for paying a million. She accusing him with this. I think Norrie's going to take it to the box. do I believe he did it
Starting point is 01:30:46 that ain't Norie ain't that type of guy For the record Taking it to the box Is exactly what got him in this problem Yeah but I don't No he's not the type of guy To ever have had to
Starting point is 01:31:01 Be aggressive He's always had His options of women Whatever you are He had some of those If he needed that Like I don't I can't see Norie
Starting point is 01:31:13 Unless you're telling me he's drunk high out is mine. Both of y'all on that, y'all flirting, and some touchy, touchy, Philly, Philly started, and then maybe in the morning you wake up and think about it and like, that, okay, maybe. But even then it's consensual. Well, to be fair, it's not like R. Kelly would have had a hard time
Starting point is 01:31:36 fucking lots of adult women. It's not like Bill Cosby would have had a hard time fucking women without drugging them. You know, it's like, it is a crime that happens regardless of if the person needs to. Listen, R. Kelly didn't hide. You would see him.
Starting point is 01:31:52 They just wouldn't leave. And the one girl, they told him she was 19. When he found out she was 17, he sent her ass back. I forgot to never, never mention R. Kelly around Wack. He didn't know that he was texting the mother and father.
Starting point is 01:32:10 Right. After we was coming, you know, so. And I don't know what, the thing is in Chicago. Is it 18 or 16, 17? I don't know, but...
Starting point is 01:32:21 Ask Flaco. What is it? Is it 16, 17? I don't know, but people have made the point that Flaco seemingly knows the age of consent in like every U.S. state. I mean, I know it's 30 plus states is 16. It's left state's 18. I know New York is 17, Philly, 16. Nevada, Jersey, 16, right?
Starting point is 01:32:44 Hey, in the words of Jay-Z, only 21 and older, let another N-word molder. Well, Jay-Z can't say that because he was doing with Beyonce. That is a good point. That is a very relevant point. You know what I'm saying? He can't. Beyonce was not 21 yet. That is a good point.
Starting point is 01:33:04 And I always, I was like probably in high school when I heard that lyric. And I remember thinking, like, you're really telling me that once you're like 30, you can't, go below 21? Like, that seems kind of unfair. No, you can go to 18. I know, but like Jay-Z's saying like 21 and older. I'm like, all right, all right, I guess. You know, hey, listen, to each is on. I see the pastor 68 till his congregation.
Starting point is 01:33:30 My first lady is 18, and you better respect it. Right. You got to stand on something. Hey, I'm going to go monitor this Dirk verdict so that I can make a video as soon as it drops. But it was great talking to you. and you got to come out to Miami how many more weeks you're going to be there uh I know he's leaving he's here to the 28th I'm probably going to be back before then um that's 17 days I would like to come out there if not you can come off on B's birthday party Halloween we're going up here too I need to be surrounded by a beautiful black woman right now you need to come out I'm telling you you should go over there
Starting point is 01:34:12 You should give me a night with R&B to help me get over Lena. Hey, listen. Hey. That R&B thing is something special. Did you see the big-ass ring she got? She got you a ring? Bro, crazy. Got me a fucking ring.
Starting point is 01:34:29 It's nuts. Wow, that's cool. Yeah, it's not. I think academics might have posted the ring. But matter of fact, he's actually over there asshole naked right now. But we don't want to get a censure. Here it goes, brother. Let's see the ring.
Starting point is 01:34:45 This ring is nuts. Ring ding dong, ring a ding, whoa. Popping champagne like I won a championship game. It opens up in the front, crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Lena, why you ain't got out of one at all? Exactly. You see what I'm, you all this complaining. I got a bulletproof vest shirt on and I can't get a ring.
Starting point is 01:35:12 Hey, bro. Hey, free dirt. Let's see what happened. I believe it's a hundred jury. If it comes back not guilty across the board, I'm gonna be shot. Hey, I would like to make an announcement. If Dirk beats his charge,
Starting point is 01:35:24 I would like to offer him $1 million to do a scene on Plug Talk. Adam will really play that pay that shit, too. I don't think his woman's going for it, but we'll see. Well, Lena is single now, so who knows? We out. Wack 100. Appreciate y'all. Everybody like the video and drop a comment.
Starting point is 01:35:43 Bang! Appreciate you, Wack.

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