No Jumper - 4xtra Drops a Diss on Adam! Pooh Sheisty Robbed Gucci?! A$AP Rocky Album & More

Episode Date: January 19, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Black 100. Yo. Welcome to the pod. How you feeling? Oh, man, I'm all right. Yeah? Been working hard this week. Yeah?
Starting point is 00:00:10 Same here, man. I'm fucking donezo. You know, shit. You know, sitting back watching the landscape, it's crazy because between podcasts and the music, everything's in the disarray. Yeah. Shit's everywhere.
Starting point is 00:00:33 I listened to Jay Cole and I listened to The Rocky album A-Sapp all the way down I was cool up to number nine To shut the fuck up Okay So you heard
Starting point is 00:00:46 Sauce Walker's verse And that's what was crazy I was gonna ask you this right Yeah Because I don't know what's gonna go on Right Drake did that I hear something come on
Starting point is 00:00:55 And I'm like That sounds like Sauce Walker But when I go to the credits On Spotify They don't list any of the features, yeah. It's not listing any of the features. Yeah, pretty common nowadays.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Like when Kendrick's last album dropped, I was about to tweet like, oh, my God, this guy didn't put anybody on his album because it didn't list the features. Then I realized, like, oh, there's like 10 features. Yeah, but what the, what, what, why are they doing that? I feel like, didn't Kanye kind of initiate that? I mean, Kanye, I mean, Kanye,
Starting point is 00:01:22 unless the features aren't allowing them to have a spot on their Spotify channel. I think they do it to be, mysterious and weird, I think. Yeah, but God damn it, it's your feature. So when people's going through it, the people that favor that artist, they might favor that song and put it in there, you know.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Do you think that there's any way that Soss Walker would have been on that album if it wasn't for Drake being the presence that's living rent-free in both of their heads at all times? Drake has been the rollout for this album. I mean, yo, maybe he f*** with Salt Spank. You know, maybe he wanted some. underground, h-tow. I almost feel like they have never done anything together really until now. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:02:12 That could be so. You never know, man. There'll be a lot of, you know, hidden friendships there that people may not talk about in the open. You know, like a lot of people don't know. Like, me and sauce has been online at least six, seven years. Online? Yeah, yeah. We communicate, talk.
Starting point is 00:02:27 You know, we ain't really like did nothing big. but, you know, if something was to come up, you know, I don't think it would be a problem, but, you know, you never know, man, some of these dudes we have in relationships. Well, okay. Because they ain't like they... Seven years ago, they were spotted in the studio together. See? There's like an old interview clip of Sauce Walker kind of praising Rocky, so it's not totally
Starting point is 00:02:49 out of nowhere, but for sure, I think, you know, I just read a couple reviews of this album, just to get my thoughts in order after I listened to it. And like Drake is in the first paragraph of both of the albums. And when I was scrolling through Twitter this morning, almost every post that I saw about the album was basically like, oh, you just Drake. So I think you got to bring a Drake op in, but who's the right one?
Starting point is 00:03:18 Kendrick probably ain't going to do it. Nah, Kit. Sauce Walker, I get it, yeah. But they didn't really go at him, go at you. Who? Rocky and him? You serious? I mean, my thing is, listen
Starting point is 00:03:31 You haven't been paying that close of attention No, you got to remember, bro. I don't... He said I had way better bitches than you about his wife. Okay, but what I'm saying is, listen. I come from... You're nothing special.
Starting point is 00:03:44 I come from... It's a grizzly. I come from the game era of going out of artists. So I don't respect a watered down because it's kind of like you're doing it to create
Starting point is 00:03:58 the chatter. Oh, Izzy, that's a good thing for marketing. But bro, if you're going to kill a relationship and say, screw you forever... Relationship been dead for like five years or something shit. I mean, but so why they still babysitting it? We want to... I don't smell blood in that. Because, okay, I think... Did you smell blood? Someone like Rocky, he wants to be able to drop the album, drop the song, and have it...
Starting point is 00:04:24 Like, if he started the song off, hey, Drake, this song is about how... I hate Drake. Drake sucks. O-V-O-Down. It's kind of corny, right? And he's drawing so much attention with that to Drake. If he drops a song and the lyrics are interpreted as dissing Drake, all the blogs are going to post about it.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Everybody's going to talk about it online for a couple days. But then this project that's going to live forever, you know, there might be a time somebody goes to listen to this in 10 years and they don't really get it that he's dissing Drake. You know, it kind of waters the project down if you make it that overt, you know? You listen to some of these dudes. songs, I don't give a 10, 20 years from now. You put on ether, you know Jay-Z's getting dissed. Yeah. That style of this, though, is considered kind of tacky, especially when you're talking about a rapper who's sort of like, he's like a fashion rapper at this point. You know,
Starting point is 00:05:16 it's like Rocky, I mean, I feel like- Fashion rapper. I'll take that. Yeah, I mean, he'll take that. He's owned the fashion thing because that's the thing that's really been working for him all these years is that he's a fashion icon or whatever that means. He's a good-looking guys. Some guys just get to hang their hat on that. I'm hot. I ain't put out an album in 7,8 years. Yep, but I'm a good-looking guy, so same thing, right? You know what good-looking guys look? I don't know what good-looking guys look like. I do. Yeah, I don't. I'm a look smackser. I don't think it's a man's job to determine if a guy is good-looking. I feel like the fact that I... You could say your son is handsome. Of course. But just being in general, I don't think your eyes should be trained for that.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Okay, look, I can register the cultural cues. Girls talk about him and say he's handsome, say he's a good-looking guy. You know, he's got all these songs talking about being a fashion guy. They put him on the cover of magazines when he hasn't had an album in eight years. You know, I think it's probably fair to say he's probably a better-looking guy than you were I. Bro, look who is his baby mama is. Yeah, but even before that. That factors in.
Starting point is 00:06:21 That's a- Even before she came around, that was like a big part of the Rocky push. Yeah, it made it even bigger. On that pretty mother thing. Yo, man, shout out A-Sap, man. Pretty is gay. I mean, that's kind of gay. He went to trial. He beat a shooting.
Starting point is 00:06:35 He dropped the girl out. I think it's a great album. It's something for everybody. What did you like about it? I liked that every song was different. And it was very... And he asked him, it was melodic. You can ride to it.
Starting point is 00:06:53 You can ride to it, bounce your head, to it. It was, it was, I like this playlist. I will say that like both of the singles really had me geared up to fucking hate this album because I hated the singles so much. But that's like the weird thing about Rocky is he'll drop these singles that have music videos that are honestly amazing, like some of the most beautiful music videos you ever seen some of those expensive music videos. Those videos crazy. The one that I sent you, isn't it? He was just standing in a room, wasn't he? But you got to pay attention to shit he was doing. I was kind of looking up. the corner of my eye. But let's do the J-Cold thing. It's separate. But I'm just saying like,
Starting point is 00:07:29 I was so poised to hate this album because I was a Rocky fan originally. I was not really a fan of like his last project, testing or whatever. And then he didn't drop an album for eight years. And then he kept, you know, I'm kind of on the inside. So I see him buying promo, not him, but his label. They're buying promo. They're trying to get some motion going. They're trying to test the world. Like anyone who's really been paying essential Rocky for all these years knows that there's been 10 times maybe where they put out a single, tried to get some motion going, tried to get people to talk about it,
Starting point is 00:08:00 didn't really work, they pull back, you don't really hear anything about it for six months or a year, they come back with another single. And all that, like, just watching that take place really made me prepared to hate this album.
Starting point is 00:08:11 But I feel like he kind of has accepted that musically, he's not going to be the kind of rapper who makes smash hits. but what he can get by on is being a little bit forward thinking in terms of beats production production was great maybe a little bit with the flows i just i find him a very boring rapper at this point but the thing is is that you know he's somebody who signed playboy cardi so when i listen to this album i feel like i hear him trying to do something that kind of like embodies some of the
Starting point is 00:08:48 mentality that goes into a project like i am music by cardi but doesn't necessarily go as freaky, as weird, but I think that he's, you know, as much as rap might be dead right now, we might not be having, you know, massive platinum smashes. I think that he's, he put together a project that was avant-garde enough that it kind of covers up to the fact that lyrically, I really feel like it's kind of over. The song I hated, I thought you would like. Which one? Punk Rocky. Oh, God. Right? No trespassing. I f*** with that. I'm so familiar with like, shut the fuck up. I f*** with that. I don't feel like he did.
Starting point is 00:09:23 a great version of it. It was another one. Swatim. Man, I honestly, I like the Sauce Walker verse better than anything else on the album. For you to say that? I know.
Starting point is 00:09:34 You're a Rocky hater. You just don't like it. No, I just, when I heard sauce rapping on there, I was just immediately like, oh my God, this guy wraps a lot better than Rocky. Sauce could rap.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Yeah. You know, I don't know. You know, the shit's weird, man. Like, especially down in Aston, if you think about it, A lot, it's a lot of strong rappers out down there, but it's not too many of them that just made it out to blow. Out of Houston and modern times?
Starting point is 00:10:02 Out of Houston, but Travis. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's a lot of respect to a lot of the rappers, more. I don't want to down there, but. But we got to go with, a lot of times we just talk about Texas. I mean, you know, Scarface is the goat. You know, we do that, but, you know, you got.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Many moons ago. Yeah, but it's, it's. I don't want to leave it. be out here. Okay, we got to get it to Meg the Stallion as well. Oh, yeah, man. As much as we do not want to hear her rap. She's a big deal. She made it out. She made it out the hood. Maxo Cream. He ain't making it. He's been doing it for a long time.
Starting point is 00:10:35 But he ain't, he ain't cross. Okay, I would put Maxo in almost like a similar category where he's decided, you know what? I'm not going to be doing this like superstar rapper thing. I'm going to go in a more avant-garde direction. The new Mexico cream single has like JPEG Mafia and who's the other one. I forget. But either way, it's like he's going in a different direction.
Starting point is 00:10:57 He's decided that he would rather do stuff that is edgy, freaky. That's what's always work for Maxo. Anytime Maxo goes outside of being a regular-ass gangster rapper and embraces different sounds, that works for. What is? That gangster rap shit? I know, I know. They don't want to hear about your fucking AR, your clip switch.
Starting point is 00:11:17 They don't want to hear about none of that shit. They're like, we're over it. This is why I think AASP's album's going to work. Because it's the total opposite. He talks a little shit in there, but it's really like, it's all over the place. It's got some rock shit,
Starting point is 00:11:32 little country shit, got some little gangster shit, melodic shit. People are unbelievably sick of boring paint-by-numbers hip-hop, which if you rewind the clock to 2016, 2017, I mean,
Starting point is 00:11:46 there was just artists blowing up left and right who really were not doing anything all that interesting. But they were new. And the public's appetite for new rappers was huge at that time. And they had a story and probably it was a, it was a stamp, you know, another artist. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:12:01 Gave me a stamp of approval. I mean, shit. I'm curious to see. How long this thing just came out? Came out last night, yeah. I'm curious to see what it's going to do. What you think? Think of a break a hundred?
Starting point is 00:12:14 Oh, sales? Hell no. I mean, I don't think that's realistic for somebody at his level at this point. I do think there's a lot of interest in it. What are you thinking? week. If 21 did 50, oh no,
Starting point is 00:12:27 21 ended up doing 90. 21, I think. Thug did 50. If that 90 that he did was legit, then I'm going to say that I don't think that this project has a single that
Starting point is 00:12:42 anchors it in the way that the Drake and 21 song seemed like it did pretty well. Do I think it's like on the level of interest of Young Thugs project? Probably not. I feel like people
Starting point is 00:12:54 were more invested in the Thug album. So you think you do less than Thug? But I feel like Rocky maybe appeals to a broader section of society, a lot more like normal indie type people. I give him 75 to 105. I don't think we're touching a hundred. But then also, bro, like my level of faith in the sales is at an all time low, especially when I heard Thug talk about buying 50K for Gunna's album to make sure that.
Starting point is 00:13:24 they outsold, whoever. I think that the label is deeply invested in making sure that Rocky looks like a success. I don't think now they're playing whatever games was being played between Drake's shenanigans and thugs phone conversations being leaked. I don't think any of the platforms are playing any games right now.
Starting point is 00:13:45 You think it's harder to get that move through? Oh, yeah, because everybody's looking. I know Spotify ain't playing with people. They, they, you see people numbers dropping on songs like they're going through there they said they took away some of uh six nine's certifications for the song with niki like they dropped it from like eight x platinum to three or some shit that's crazy that's insane five platyms vats and and listen do i believe that he basically juice the those numbers yes do i think that he did anything that different than what a ton of other
Starting point is 00:14:18 rappers do no when me and him talked about the sales shout at the six nine three six nine three six When me and six nine talked about the sales on his content that came out after he got out of prison, that was the one time. But that was the one time in the conversation where I felt like he was not being honest with me. Because he talks about other people buying sales. I don't think he wants to have that conversation about himself. Well, you got to remember. You don't remember when he had that rant when they didn't let him have his spot. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:48 And that's when he starts spilling the beans. Yeah. In order for you to spill the beans, it means you know what. what the fuck is going on. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? But did you see also that now YouTube streams are not going to be counted towards album sales, which to me that means that the album sales are now, like whatever
Starting point is 00:15:06 Billboard puts out or whatever, that's kind of useless now. Because YouTube is a huge part of it. Huge part of it. You almost need to like take any sales that they give us going forward and just be willing to like increase them by, I don't know, 30%. That kills like people like NBA young boy big time. Big time. And somebody like Rocky, a lot of these videos are so dope that it's like people are going to watch the video a bunch of times that might never even think about listening to the album.
Starting point is 00:15:30 I'm that kind of person where I remember when I was on a Joe Budden podcast back in the day talking about King Vaughn with an ishe or ice or one of them. And he's like, he knew every single King Vaughn mixtape. And I'm just thinking like, damn, I never once went out of my way to listen to a full King Vaughn mixed. I was just watching the YouTube videos and then listening to random songs on YouTube. Like that artist, I never thought to go to Apple Music for King Vaughn at that point in my life. Now I'm a little more Apple Music friendly. People are just even in their car because you know now they have it to where you can plug up the damn video or pop up on your dash. Even when you're at home, you know, you can go to the album and, you know, you can listen to the YouTube.
Starting point is 00:16:13 People will listen to the YouTube to watch the video and hear the song. Even moving around the house or did they kill that already? they killed the YouTube numbers or they're going to do it? I think they did it starting like today. Whoa. Why is somebody calling me the poo destroyer? I am not picking that up.
Starting point is 00:16:33 The poo destroyer. Sounds insane. Oh, no. That's, that's wow. Yeah, so, I mean, there's a chance that these album sales are going to seem significantly lower because of that YouTube shit. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:42 They were already like minimizing the YouTube sales. Like, they don't count for as much as Spotify and Apple because, I don't know, I don't really understand the logic because, yeah, YouTube's like a free platform, but like you can use Spotify for free, I think, as well, as long as you're willing to deal with a bunch of ads. Ads and commercials. Yeah, so I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:02 You know, a little different. The music game is inspiring out on the urban side, especially. It's not a good time over there. Yeah, I mean, I was having this thought process the other day. I was thinking, like, So A, I've had my eyes off the ball when it comes to no jumper because of this fight and everything. I actually honestly want to apologize to the fans out there. I want to be making more content.
Starting point is 00:17:29 It's just going through all this fucking training is honestly zapping me of my energy to the point where anytime that I've thought about like, oh, maybe I'll just go to the office and do a three-hour stream or I'll set up a random interview or error. I'm kind of just like, nah, I'm going to go home and watch a movie or sit on my ass for three hours and eat a bunch of rice, try to rebuild my... I'm not fucking stamina for this shit. Well, at least you got the right trainer. David Kaczyminsky, man.
Starting point is 00:17:56 I do got to thank you for that. He's an awesome trainer. Yeah, I wanted to put you somewhere that wasn't going to be bullshitting. You know what I mean? You didn't have to figure them out. And I knew Jason's a cool dude. You know what I mean? You got to be a trust a guy to listen to him.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Yeah. And one thing that there's this guy, Eli or Ellie, who's like a big boxing media guy who keeps coming to the gym. And he told me, he's like, it's so. important that you have this trainer because so many people who are trainers don't actually know what it's like to fight professionally. He's fought professionally mad times. He's done all these blue face fights so he kind of understands the whole influencer space, et cetera. But he's definitely somebody that's like, you know, there's just like infinite things that he's told me. Like for instance,
Starting point is 00:18:37 told me I had to stop jerking off. I might have more come in my body right now than on any previous episode. Like I have probably four days, four days. Four days. of coming me. That's like a whole jug of milk. TMI, bro. TMI. And I looked it up and chat said is bullshit. Chat said, no, your testosterone does not get higher if you don't masturbate.
Starting point is 00:19:00 But then I'm sitting here with Pac-Man Jones his one piece of advice about fighting because he, keep in mind, did like, you know, after 14 years in the NFL, he did two boxing matches. He said the reason why he feels like he lost the second one was because he was fucking his girl. The other one he didn't jerk off
Starting point is 00:19:18 or a week or he's jerking off right he's a wild boy yeah wild god I do I love this person Pac-Man is amazing he's a wild guy but yeah so I'm honestly like people keep asking me like oh you should film a porn scene
Starting point is 00:19:30 right after the fight I'm like bro I'm gonna nut in four seconds I am overflowing with nut right now it's like I might burp and some might come out that's plug talk conversation man yeah you're right
Starting point is 00:19:45 yeah that's too much going on Anyway, the only reason I said that about me lacking on No Jumper, which I plan on fully re-emercing myself in the very near future, I did a little check the other day. I was thinking, I'm like, you know, no Jumper feels f***. It's when it comes to interviews. And I started thinking like, well, how's everybody else doing? And I went and looked at like basically all of my peers,
Starting point is 00:20:05 everybody who I kind of consider in the same general category as No Jumper. And it's pretty bad for everybody else, too. Like, I feel like Vlad has less interviews running right now than he has in a long time. When I looked at what interviews he's been doing, they're almost all repeat guests, which is, to his credit, that's one thing that he's always been very good at. That's what he does. Anybody who's like a good interview, he finds a way to make it a repetitive thing. But then I'm looking at, you know, some of the people who left the platform, not really any good interviews coming their way for the most part. No, people have one here, there, whatever.
Starting point is 00:20:38 A lot of people. Bullett Kev was getting a ton of crazy interviews for a while. Feels like he maybe doesn't necessarily have a lot of huge high-profile ones coming through. A lot of people have been commenting about, you know, maybe drink champs and Gilling and Wallow are not necessarily at the level that they were a couple years ago, et cetera. Like the number of people that are interesting to interview
Starting point is 00:20:59 really feels like it's out of all-time low. And especially no jumper that kind of focuses on the underground artists, the upcoming artist. That shit is washed. Gone. You know why? There's none. Nobody wants to invest.
Starting point is 00:21:12 They don't see the value. Because what we see as the under. underground artists is, but what we see it to be doesn't exist. What they think it is is just a dude that put a song up. Right. He has no
Starting point is 00:21:29 groundwork. I think the biggest underground artists we have right now running around Los Angeles is probably Zohol. Okay. Because when it comes to his consistency of dropping music
Starting point is 00:21:44 and believe it or not, I was talking to empire because he's an empire, the motherfucker dude does some good numbers, but when you think about it, who else? It's very sparse. Yeah. A lot of people disappear. What's the little youngster from 40s?
Starting point is 00:22:02 Not X-4, the other one. Doty? Where's he at? But even somebody like him, the fact that we're even talking about him, not exactly like somebody. I would not have considered him a huge interview a couple years ago. But he was someone I was really excited to talk to when he got out of jail. I said, no, that whole group of people that Kendrick put on his album,
Starting point is 00:22:22 there were all West Coast dudes, right? Yeah. Where the fuck are they at? It's been pretty bad for a lot of them. You get what I'm saying? Yeah. But even that, man, it's just like, there's just, okay, and then in addition to that, a lot of the up-and-coming artists who are really killing it,
Starting point is 00:22:40 somebody like Dochi's kind of killing it, you know, she does crazy numbers on her shit. Dogey's not no underground artists. Right. But she, I mean, kind of is. She's like just now emerged from being underground, right? Don't you sell it out shit. Okay. But I'm saying like we would have considered her an underground artist until about 20 minutes ago
Starting point is 00:22:56 when everybody fell off to the point where there's like no up-encoming artists that are really like doing numbers. But all I'm saying about Dochi, Doche ain't doing no interviews? And if she does do an interview, what she can do? She needs one interview. She would do, if she drops her album tomorrow, I bet you she does Breakfast Club and maybe like one other thing. Well, here's the thing. Dolgis a TDE artists. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:18 You don't see a lot of those artists doing a lot of bunch of interviews. True, but also, you don't see a lot of TTEs. Now, if the industry had 50 TDEs, then we'd always have new artists to interview because they'd be pushing all kinds of new talent from all other parts of the country. A lot of the people who were previously putting money into building up and developing artists just are not doing that anymore. It does not seem like a wise use of their money. And a lot of the people who I personally kind of witnessed have huge amounts of money
Starting point is 00:23:45 dumped into marketing. Like, for instance, sexy red. For a while there, they were pumping money into making her look as big as she could because she had a couple songs that made it work. Until she did, 30,000. Did she do 30K? Less, 26, 27.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Yeah. I mean, if you have a sexy red... If you have a sexy red, it makes sense to dump a bunch of millions into her. But when you start to realize, like, oh, we're not really getting a return. turn on this? Yeah, like, watch what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:24:17 What are you going to do? Yeah. Now I'm going to be real. Like, at a time, I'm going to keep the number low. Yeah. A million dollar budget was low. Right? Right.
Starting point is 00:24:29 When you would get a million dollar budget, the same artist today is in a dog fight to get 300. And that's to do everything. His pocket, album, mix, mastering, everything. They may throwing another hundred in there for marketing that the label's going to hold. But other than that, which radio's not a big thing. You would spend $300,000 on radio working two songs, you know, back then.
Starting point is 00:24:59 So that's not there, right? And now I don't even hear a lot of buzz about the Spotify playlist. Remember? That was a big thing. Rap caviar. It's just that. You don't hear? Really, it's the blog.
Starting point is 00:25:17 The bloggers, the YouTube platforms, and just short-form content in general. Yeah. And podcasts honestly suffer as a result, too. Like, the idea of starting a podcast was so irresistible to people in 2021, 2021, ain't nobody starting podcasts anymore because it's very fucking difficult and everybody kind of realizes that everything is short-form content right now. That's the fact.
Starting point is 00:25:39 I was up all night going over, you know, our platform, nothing but content platform and looking at Zeus, looking at all these other platforms. And I ran across these, they call them like short form or verticals. Yeah. Where it'd be like two minutes and it stops and it goes to it. So I got hooked with one. You were watching this on what platform?
Starting point is 00:26:01 No, it was a fucking goddamn, it was on Instagram. Okay. So I hit it. The shorts tab. I hit it, right? Or reels rather. And it was like, it was a movie. It was like the billionaire and the homeless lady or something.
Starting point is 00:26:16 So it showed me to try. and then it hit me. For $8.99, you can subscribe for a month, right? So I got, I'm like, how long is it? So it was like 59 slides of like two and a half minutes. An actual movie? A fucking movie. But look, you notice it after two and a half minutes, it'll stop, it'll end with something,
Starting point is 00:26:36 and then skip to the next thing, right? So you notice it, so all the other intricate shit that's usually in the middle of a movie or something is gone. But, bro, I watched that shit all the way to the last slide. I seen the credits. It was some dude named Cocoa Beware or some shit. I look for that dude for two hours until I found him. Because I'm like, bro, I don't want to know how much it's costing to do this shit.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Because it made me subscribe. So he says he shot that shit in four days. Really? You said I'm saying? So it's like it's a whole other kids now, right? I swear to God, kids. Listen to YouTube and fast forward mode. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Times two or times three or some crazy shit. I'll do 1.25, maybe 1.5. Is there a fucking beeping coming from out there? It's next door. They're moving. Oh, it is that. Yeah, they're moving. So, but guess what?
Starting point is 00:27:35 Their mind and their brain, that's what they're equipped to. So me watching this short form vertical thing, I think people ain't giving a fuck about the loan-out-drawn shit. Just get to it and keep me interested. If you have a hardcore fan base, yes. Like even, you know, we tried to do this one podcast where we had a bunch of underground kids sort of like do a podcast with me, me and three other dudes. They're young kids.
Starting point is 00:27:59 They know a lot about what's going on underground, et cetera. I think it got 14,000 views, which is pretty terrible from the no jumper perspective. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw TikToks of this content going nuts. Now, granted, I think that some people are like higher clippers who were on the show or whatever, So it's kind of being like astroturfed. But I mean, I just saw so many clips from this on TikTok with like a million views. And apparently none of those people decided they wanted to go check out the full-length thing.
Starting point is 00:28:28 And I can't say I blame him either because I mean, this morning I watched like a fucking Rorya Mall, like a five-minute clip. It did not make me want to go watch the full thing. I watched like a five-minute academics clip of him talking about Jay Cole. Did not make me think, oh, I'm going to go watch a four-hour stream of act. You know, it's just like the short form has taken. taken over to the point where now podcasts are just kind of like your hardcore fan base slash your older fan base. I feel like the young kids, them listening to multi-hour podcast is just kind of becoming
Starting point is 00:28:57 a thing of the past, which is scary because you can actually make some money off a long-form content. And realistically, short-form content is unbelievably hard to monetize. No, for real. Yeah. Like the little three, four, five minutes, it ain't too much you can do with it. Yo, I got a question for you since you've been training and all that, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:13 I know you got your mind on Jason Love when you're training and hitting that back. How do you feel about motherfuckers and saying he's going to break your motherfucking jaw? With what? His hands? Hand. He said he's breaking your jaw. Oh, you're talking about first. And you're leaving with two black eyes.
Starting point is 00:29:34 I mean, I challenged him to a celebrity boxing match. And his response was, no, I want to bust your, I want to break your jaw in real life. Like, does he not think that a. celebrity boxing matches real life. Like, you're not going to just, like, run into me in an alley somewhere. Maybe he's could think about bare knuckle. Yeah, that's not happening. Yeah, I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:29:54 I know a guy who fights bare knuckle. I'm not trying to do that to my stuff. Absolutely not. You not try to have one of those ears. I mean, honestly, we were talking about bare and uncle fighting in the gym today after training. And even all these guys, like, the guys in that gym have many, many, many professional fights. And they talk about bare knuckle fighting.
Starting point is 00:30:13 like it's the craziest fucking thing in the world. Yeah. So, okay, let's do the four extra thing just because he's made his return to the internet. So he dropped, he's doing the Cam Capone interview thing. So he couldn't. I think Cam Capone is his platform now. Yeah, he's decided no jumper's not in anymore.
Starting point is 00:30:30 He doesn't want to do his own channel. He's on Cam Capone. We'll see all on that last. I'm guessing that it's not going to last forever because four extra I think thinks he's worth a lot more than realistically, I think. That's your fault. that Cam Capone is going to pay him.
Starting point is 00:30:44 That's your fault. Definitely true, yeah. I probably should have haggled harder with him the entirety of the time that he was here. I warned you. I said, bro, but you jumped out and I understood why he was doing what you were doing. I was trying to build him up as an exclusive personality
Starting point is 00:31:02 on the channel, which he was for a while. Hey, bro, let me explain something to you what I learned. I swear, I came with this realization just last night. I actually know when the little dude flocked the ball was up here. All these dudes is a piece of shit. Flock the ball is a piece of shit? He a piece of shit too.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Why? Right. These dudes come one way and you'll be like, you know what? Let me try to help them in any way I can. You'll throw your friendships and relationships helping people in their mind the whole time. They're saying when I get to this point, fuck them. I don't need them and I'm going to do this. It don't work out.
Starting point is 00:31:43 I didn't see what he said about you. I was watching that episode. I didn't get to that part. I heard he didn't really say shit about you and that you were freaking out. No, you're missing the point. When you do this shit, you know that dude because I brought him up here. Let's keep it real. Who?
Starting point is 00:31:56 I brought Flok, you don't even remember. When? I made you do a skit for him. When? About eight, nine months ago. What? I had him running around the build. I said, Adam, I know you don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Oh, that's the little, I forgot I met him. Right? I brought him up here, right? knowing he was buzzed. I said, let me open the door for him. I met him, yeah. That's how it happened. Not only that, then I fuck a relationship up.
Starting point is 00:32:20 What a watcheromy quine. What? You know, Watts homie had this trademark thing like, you know, it gets like that sometime in the hood, right? Okay. So he started mimicking it. He didn't like the shit. Like, he was like, yo, bro, what you're doing?
Starting point is 00:32:33 You're kind of like stepping in my lane. Lock the ball hits me, yo, bro. Look how he getting at me. This, just that and other. So I hit Watson. I'm like, bro, chill out. He's a kid. Leave him alone.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Let him do a shit. He's like, whack. I said, I understand what you're saying. Be a kid. Let him rock. His daddy for my neighborhood. Okay. Right?
Starting point is 00:32:51 They wasn't talking at a time. I intervened. And I did a lot for this little fucking kid, right? But what do you think he said about you that was so offensive? Let's hear it. Here's the thing. Right. Everybody else on the show felt like you were tripping.
Starting point is 00:33:04 I'm just telling you that. Anybody. F*** them niggas on the show. Because them niggas ain't me and they ain't nobody. So get to it. What do you say about? What were you offended by? If you call my phone, look, if I call your phone...
Starting point is 00:33:16 What did he say on the show that was offensive? If I call you not just answer this. If I call your phone and ask everything else... And I ask you everything else, right? But I'll wait to get out a table full of Adam ops, right? And say, yeah, what does Wack think he's accomplishing by doing this, this, that, and other? You little bitch-ass nigger, you called me any other motherfucking time. What's bro named from Drew?
Starting point is 00:33:41 champs, I hooked him up there too. Right? Straight up. Hit Norrie, called him, text him, Hey, yo, the kid following, comment under his shorts. Doesn't sound very offensive. Listen, right? So I'm saying to myself,
Starting point is 00:33:53 well, motherfucker, you called me any other time you ain't ever asked me that. Why wait to get out a table full of ops and say, well, what does whack think he's accomplishing by doing a start? I don't know what he's getting to, but it's like, now it's like, because he run with one of our producers.
Starting point is 00:34:08 This was crazy. It sounds like you're being a little oversaw. No, he run with something. come, right? One of our producers. He the one did Tatiana. That's nephew, right? So now it was kind of like you didn't make it uncomfortable because you can't come around me now. Okay. Period.
Starting point is 00:34:21 So now you just close the door to yourself with the one motherfucker in this game that went out his way to do whatever you asked him, whenever you wanted me to intervene, if you need to get a hold of somebody, I will stop and do it. I brought you a little punk ass up here. So I think the respect you owe me, Nicky don't even bring me up at no motherfucking table where you know some crazy shit might be saying.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Did he bring you up or did he just engage in the conversation that was already happening on the point? When you got Munchy B saying, hey, bro, you shouldn't say that leave that alone. You know you're doing some bullshit. Yeah. Munchy B told him. Like, bro, you know something going to come from that. Like, it was no need for the, but it's cool. It just let me know, right?
Starting point is 00:35:06 And I text him while he was up there. Yeah, and I heard that his, look what he done. I heard his whole mood changed on the podcast. I'm going to call you when I leave here. I said, you're okay. You think he called me? No. You know why?
Starting point is 00:35:19 Because he said and thought about it like, yo, dude ain't never did nothing but try to help me. Flock to ball. Let me speak to you. I'll look out for you and I'm not going to be as sensitive as this guy. He likes to get his panties in a twist. Me personally, rhinoceros skin. That's cool. Stick with me.
Starting point is 00:35:36 No, that's cool. I mean, he can do his day. I'm going to tell you this. I think I should shave my arms. I'm gonna tell you this. The doors he need to get in, you don't gate keep them doors. This is your door.
Starting point is 00:35:47 All the other shit that's needed. Uh-huh. Don't you think you should be a little bit more forgiving given that he's 18? And it doesn't seem like he meant any harm. Listen, bro. Listen, when you got a motherfucker that's helping you out with you and your daddy's relationship,
Starting point is 00:36:00 when you call him the motherfucker about this, this, that and other, when the motherfucker say, yo, bro, you want to come to know, no jumper, meet at him, come up there, maybe you can do a few skits. Whack, what you do one,
Starting point is 00:36:08 I do a skit for you, come on out, man. I'm going to get the doors open for you, right? When a motherfucker, he didn't ask me, right? Hey, bro, I hit Norrie and told Norrie to follow you to comment under your shit. He'll go to screenshot to that. Oh, bro, that's crazy. He really responded.
Starting point is 00:36:21 When I'm doing shit, like my nigga, don't bring my name up and no controversial. Didn't bring it up. Don't bring my name up. But now he 18. So just stay to fuck away from me. Because if I see you in my zone, I ain't looking for you. Hey, me get your bitch ass from away from me. That's how I'm going to treat you.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Because- I don't think you should assault a small child. I didn't say I'm assaulting. Just stay your little punk ass away. You didn't respect the love that I was giving you.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Certain shit I'm not going to do. Certain people, you see when the motherfucker bring up QCP, you ain't going to get nothing of that out of me. You see what I'm saying? When a motherfucker is dead for you,
Starting point is 00:37:02 opening doors for you, you reciprocate that. Don't you think that kind of holds you back as a commentator or a podcast? if you can't have an honest conversation about someone just because you've had a good relationship in the past. Hey, bro, listen, you're a white dude who ain't got no loyalty to nobody.
Starting point is 00:37:18 We get it. No, I do. I just think I should be able to have conversations about people regardless of if I have a relationship with them. But they're crazy. This would trip me out. Little bitch-ass nigger, you get on my phone any other time. You asking a table of ops a question about me
Starting point is 00:37:34 that you ain't never asked me. What do you get out of? If I want to know what Adam gets out of it, or something, right? Well, I get a straight, a more clear answer from you of fucking Josh. When you are doing a podcast, sometimes you have to have conversations and maybe he didn't understand that what he was saying would offend you or whatever, but either way, I feel like you're, you can do his thing, just stay away from me. I'm cool. Don't call me about nothing. I didn't block you and all that. No scum, keep it away from you, you know how I am.
Starting point is 00:38:02 I think he's got a lot of potential. Seems like a very smart kid. That's great. Do his shit. That's great. But it's just everybody, you try to help motherfuckers, you'll look up and a motherfucker dagger you up. Yeah. It's crazy. You didn't got it? Oh, yeah. You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:38:17 And then a motherfucker that say, you ain't did shit. Right. What? They had to tell people, but I said, bro, not for nothing. I've been knowing AD. I knew AD when he was doing his music.
Starting point is 00:38:32 The podcast lane opened up a whole new door of opportunity. What? For AD. What is he done since he left? No, but I'm not. I'm saying, no, when he got at this table, it opened up a whole other world, a whole other look for him. And when he left, no, Jumper, would you say that that world kind of closed off a little bit?
Starting point is 00:38:50 No, but when he left, he still was able to open up and attempt to do what he's doing. And they're still open. They're doing what they're doing. But isn't he just doing the same exact shit that he did before he left? But the fact that he established that here is the re... He didn't just start doing that before. Was he doing what he was doing before he came to No Jumper? You know, he streams now.
Starting point is 00:39:10 He was doing that with No Jumper. It's just kind of weird that he felt like he had to leave No Jumper to continue doing the exact same shit that he was doing while he was at No Jumper. Well, what else is he going to do? He going to change it up. Music, close. He was doing music before he got here. That wasn't working out.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Yeah. You get what I'm saying? Hell of a rapper. He has some great music, but it wasn't working out. This platform opened up other doors for him. But other people wanted to talk to him about other shit outside of music. But even I would tell A.D. you can't take, you can't say
Starting point is 00:39:42 that platform is sitting on the side of Adam at the time you did, did not uplift your shit. Right, I mean, I'm glad we can agree that AD is a loser. Andrew Schultz just message me. Man, this boxing match is brilliant. You're always one step ahead. Tell me that the bag is retarded. I'm going to hit him up afterwards.
Starting point is 00:40:01 But that's hilarious. Anyway, when are we talking about four extra? What up, third? Yeah. O.G. third aside in the building. He said that he's breaking your jaw, you're getting two black eyes. Yeah. I mean, honestly, when I look at him, I just see one big, mushy, sad dude.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Like, he just looks like life doesn't mean going that way. But they did a lot of cardio. They walked from crinched all the fed. Yeah, and they were talking crazy. I never heard him say the one Hoover diss on camera before. And I heard him say it in that. That makes me feel like things are heating up over there. Yeah, but you know, they just did that.
Starting point is 00:40:40 So I guess D.C. baby Draco, he cleared to go wherever the fuck he wanted to go because he was over there for five, six hours. And he was in some blood. He was with the rolling 20 blobs right before that. Yeah. So he's back doing his hood blogs. Yeah. Thanks for Wack 100.
Starting point is 00:40:55 I opened the gate back up. There you go. See what I'm saying? They can say what they want. I mean, he keeps shit at least a little interesting. Myself personally, I would not want to do the things that he does in terms of actually going to actually go into all these different neighbors. You think they're going to find him somewhere?
Starting point is 00:41:08 I'm not saying that. I don't necessarily think. I think that like he's really done anything that would make, you know, if he even got packed out, I'd be kind of surprised. It just doesn't feel like, but actually, you know, I did see a video of him talking hell of shit the other day, just being like, you know that I'm the best who did it without me. They ain't got nobody else. You want to see it? He was talking hell of shit.
Starting point is 00:41:26 I didn't see that one. I've seen it on Instagram, I think. I didn't see that one. This was the first time, honestly, that I was like, oh, maybe they will do something to him because he's really kind of running his mouth in this clip. Well, here's the thing. A dude from another hood can't necessarily float around all them hoods. Maybe it's not on his Instagram.
Starting point is 00:41:49 I don't know where the fuck I've seen this thing. But yeah, I mean, I don't really think they got, like, reason to do anything crazy. You see what they asked him. How do you know, bro, we won't just, right now, just pop your ass out right now for going to all these hoods? Who asked them? The 20s. You didn't see that clip? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:05 They got him in the projects and the buildings and say, yo, bro, like, you know, you're a trip. Like, you're over here with us. We could just right now just turn around and just dog your way. ass out. Like, you know, what makes you so comfortable running around all these neighborhoods doing all this shit? Right. You know what I'm saying? It's the truth. The dude got to have some of my heart, bro. I was thinking about going on Instagram live and just calling the police on for extra to just let them know that he was threatening to break my jaw. Now, get the out of here with that shit, bro. You don't think? Are you okay, bro? Well, I just figured that they
Starting point is 00:42:40 might want to know that I've got a known a member. who's done like 10 years in prison for attempted murder. He's claiming he's going to break my jaw. You said you was going to whip his ass first. In a boxing match. Okay. Well, what's the problem? He's responded.
Starting point is 00:42:56 No, he's saying he's going to break my jaw in real life. I was thinking about calling the top. Would you not try to break his jaw? In a fire chair. Yeah. Okay. So what are you talking about? He's responding to YouTube antics.
Starting point is 00:43:07 But it didn't sound like antics. That sounded like a real hardened. He was laughing when he said it. A hardened gangman. member slowly descending into obesity. Says, when did you give a fucking crazy about me? All you got in a building is hard and gang members. Oh, I'm glad you're admitting that because Lush is a Serrano general and there's many other
Starting point is 00:43:27 such examples. But I, no, I decided I didn't want to do that. But don't play with me for us because if you lay a hand on me, I will be calling the police instantaneously and I won't do a boxing match with you. Adam, trust me. Okay, let me give you a little game. Sometimes people lay a hand on you without touching you. So if that ever happens, you're not going to know until you wake up.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Okay. It just happened. Sounds good. They're probably going to throw a sheet over your head. Sounds good. If they're smart, they won't say nothing. But you'll be able to tell by their mm-mm-mm-mm-mms what their nationality was. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:06 So what he probably should do is send the Mexican homies so it don't sound like a black. Mm-mm-mm-mm. Yeah, I'm not working. worried about that. Um, it sounds like a bunch of fantasy shit to me. Okay, how did, did, did you watch his, his diss song about me? No, I didn't see it. Oh, my God. It's crazy. Also, he did a diss song. I thought he did a video over there, but I didn't know that was about you. You guys see this, bro. Oh, no, I didn't see. We'll cut it out for the full version. I didn't, I didn't hear this. Wow. Uh, okay, Cam Capone for extra. Is this what he shot with
Starting point is 00:44:36 DC Baby Draco? Um, yes. Oh, uh, he did shoot it. But also, I, I hate, I hate to be a view clocker, but this is Forex's first interview clip since he blew his hand off, and it's him saying that he's going to break my jaw, and he did 65,000 views in almost two-fold days. That seems pretty miserable, and then he dropped this other clip, again, talking about me, who, again, I'm the most famous person that he's ever been involved with in anyway, and that has 10,000 views. This really makes me feel like, oh, nobody gives the fuck about you and your roly chain, And then right here, this is the song. It's called Four Extra.
Starting point is 00:45:17 If I wasn't rapping, I'd be gangbanging, Adam 22 diss. I'm going to be honest with you. What is Ed? I believe you are both rapping and gang banging. It's very strange to see you saying, if you weren't rapping, you'd be gang banging when the entire song is basically just you gang banging. Also, this is clickbait. It's not really a diss about me.
Starting point is 00:45:35 He doesn't say my name one time. I would have thought I would have somebody would have sent it. Let's review it. We'll have to cut this out. Okay. Thoughts. There was not a verse. The whole thing was a hook.
Starting point is 00:45:48 It's like a hook and then like a weird little like mini bridge and then the same hook. Like he didn't wrap a verse on it. It definitely does not sound like, it's not even like a sneak this to me. It doesn't sound like he was talking about me at all. It wasn't really. It's like total clickbait and it's still failed miraculously. When I look at this, right, this is why when I hear people say, scream this, we outside shit.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Yeah. Right. And I get it, I understand it, right? He's going to have a big X to plug body in about six months. By seeing these kids, they don't even got mustachees, right? Yeah. Me personally, and everybody do what they do, I don't want to be outside with the kids like that, right?
Starting point is 00:46:36 Unless we, I don't even know what I would be outside with the kids. Let's hit some football track, you know, some boxing going on. But I mean, I don't know, bro. The thing that shocked me about it, when Forester was having his run when he was on no jumper day to day, if you had told me that one day he was going to drop a diss song about me, nobody on earth could have convinced me that that shit wasn't going to do 100K a day. I'm the most famous person that ever even looked to. Wait, listen, Adam, I told you, it's a difference between somebody coming to your platform
Starting point is 00:47:18 and already having some motion and some movement versus somebody coming to the platform and the platform giving them the motion and moving. We created them. So once you leave the home front, it's never going to be the same. You just think that some of the fans who saw him on here would follow him to the Kim Capone. platform but apparently that's not the case 11,000 views in a day and a half on a disc towards me is crazy yeah i would have thought it would and whose channel is that on that's on camcabone so it's not like you can say oh it's on a little channel he's got 1.3 million subscribers you know that's
Starting point is 00:47:55 all camcabon that is on camcone's channel oh shit yeah it's dark out there man i feel bad for this dude because it's just really not working out um but yeah i mean i don't even know i think between now in summertime, it's going to be a total shift of everything. What do you mean? 80% of the people, the little names, we may know the little names is, right? You're not going to hear about them. I think the content that's being pushed now, it won't be relevant. A lot of the street shit is phasing out.
Starting point is 00:48:32 If these are the views that he's doing right now, what is this going to look like in six months? With this is what I'm telling you. That's my point. I feel bad. Because now you've got to ask yourself, the atom factor will be long gone and phased out. Even right here, like we will probably get him an extra 4,000 to 5,000 views just from this.
Starting point is 00:48:51 You, um, your diss song. You're like 100K, which honestly I was disappointed in. I was like 100K don't really seem like enough. But that's 10 times what he did right here. That's crazy. What I'm saying is, People don't care about you dissing four-exers. If you were to disjew button, it'd be a different thing.
Starting point is 00:49:13 I disagree. I feel like me disin-four-X is probably like a bigger newsmaker because if I disjew-bunner, it's just going to look like some weird cloutches and shit. I'm going to be real with you, bro. They knew there was feelings involved in the four-x-old. I'm going to be real with you. Fore-extra, he was a seed that was planted, but it didn't get rooted. You've seen that with Traplor.
Starting point is 00:49:33 when Traplor did that thing and it did what it did. Right? You know, it's always that big pop buzz. Max B, when he got out, I said, bro, he got about a 45 to 60 day. It's going to pop in buzz. It's a new thing that's see what's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:49:49 And then if you don't make something extraordinary happen, they're going to keep moving on. If you don't do nothing to hold him and keep them, they're going to keep moving on. I feel like he's going to have, I feel like for us who's going to have problems beyond just being irrelevant and nobody watching his content because, I mean, like, he's made it pretty clear that he plans on continuing to just walk around his neighborhood for the
Starting point is 00:50:13 rest of his life. That's what he said. Like, he's going to be a patroler. He might as well become a state trooper or some of shit because he just want to walk around the park all goddamn day. He said, that's what he does have fun. That's what he said. He might be a ranger.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Yo, if he started playing Pokemon Go, at least he could get some XP while he's walking around out there. Listen, I'm sorry. I think he made a grave error by leaving. And I think that this is becoming more and more clear as this content rolls out, that nobody gives a fuck anymore. I actually, I would like to thank Cam Capone, though, for having some sympathy for him and at least trying to give him a platform. But, like, Cam Capone is not going to, like, keep paying for interviews if you don't got nothing to talk about. That's the fact.
Starting point is 00:50:53 I was starting to get to the point of being like, I'm not going to be able to keep paying him that much because he don't really got nothing to talk about. but then blew his hand off. I told you, I said, listen, when that initial buzz is gone, what are you going to do? Yeah. I mean, apparently just eat because he looking big as fuck. Well, he can't work out like he used to. Yeah, but you're going to have to figure out something because he might have put a slight 40 on. Well, probably when his hand heals up to a certain point, I'm pretty sure it's not over with.
Starting point is 00:51:33 They're probably going to give him something. I think he's depressed. I think he's stress eating. And I think that... Any man would be depressed, bro, if you lose your fucking hand. You, me? Yeah, man, if he said seven months... Huh?
Starting point is 00:51:46 He said seven months to get the fuck over it and move on in life, right? Seven months and get over something you didn't have 35 years of your life? But if I lose my hand, give me two weeks. I'm back at full strength. Cap. Okay, not physically. You can't, bro. You can't say no shit like that, bro.
Starting point is 00:52:02 Okay. Maybe two weeks is generous, but I think in general, probably, you know, at least the first month, like, I'm a go-getter. And then as it is right? Yeah. It's probably his main, you know, you do most of shit. Yeah. What you're right, bro. Like, that's the psychological thing.
Starting point is 00:52:19 You know what I mean? Hey, look, man, shit. Hey, look. Shit turned to a pencil eraser. None of us could. Yeah, it looks like you just got two left because I can see, you know. You know, he goes off on travel. in this interview as well.
Starting point is 00:52:35 What? I mean, that's what the title says. No, I swear to go out of here. I haven't seen it yet, no offense. Tramette went to help you. Cam Capone, I do not want to spend $10 to get the members-only version of this content. But the title for the member's only version is, yeah, I don't. 10 bucks, dude.
Starting point is 00:52:54 What the fuck? Four extra interviews, $10 a month. Jesus Christ. Four extra goes off on Adam 22 and Trappler Ross, reacts to guns. reacts to Gumby, Kevin Gates, and Chrison Rock dissing the Crips. That's the content. So the one thing I am interested in here is what he has to say about Traplor Ross. Because keep in mind, Traplor Ross.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Everybody's recorded and put it up. Well, he spent a bunch. No, I don't think anyone cares enough to actually go capture this content and leak it to the meme pages. But, I mean, what did Trappler Ross do besides spend a shitload of money? Try to help you. To help you out. I told Ross, I said, hey, remember. Especially when you're dealing with these gangsters, no good deed goes unpunished.
Starting point is 00:53:36 What did I just say? You help a motherfucker out, bro, and you ain't respected nothing but a little respect. That's it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But that's a bridge. That's a bridge maybe he shouldn't have burned. Yeah, I mean, Trapler Ross, Spody Face, X4, me.
Starting point is 00:53:58 I feel like at this point 4XA got me beat in terms of burning bridges you know people say that I fell out with a lot of people he knows a lot less people than me he even fired Lupe at one point apparently she worked her way into his good graces again
Starting point is 00:54:15 but I really feel like he might be the biggest snake like the number one person in terms of just falling out with everybody it's kind of amazing what's the numbers you just get past so I'm trying to see the I want to look at the album. Okay, this is the album. Okay, here's the album.
Starting point is 00:54:32 I want to see. So they don't even, it's 11 songs. They don't even list most of the plays, but the ones that they do list were a couple thousand, a couple thousand plays. The song Gang Bang has 7,300, and all the other ones have like a couple thousand. Y'all, I wonder if it's Gang Bang song
Starting point is 00:54:51 is harder than our Gang Bang song. What's your Game Bang song? Young Magnificent from Marcello's 107 Hoover. Usually when I gang bang, I'm not even listening to music. Yeah, everybody got a goddamn song called that. That's why it's funny that that song, which is not on this, is called, like, if I wasn't rapping, I'd be gang banging.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Oh, wait, look, if I wasn't rapping, I'd be gang banging. So, okay, them saying... It's not even a registry. I honestly don't even know if that's the same song, though, because I feel like I... Because I'd listen to this. I listened to this whole album on the way to that Burner Boy show a couple months ago. It's a tough listen.
Starting point is 00:55:23 I'm not going to lie. But either way, that song, being called an Adam 22 disc is insane because this means that it came out like two months before I did my song, this at him. It is not showing no place. So they did the most diabolical clickbait that they could have possibly done,
Starting point is 00:55:42 titling a song that's not about me, as if it was about me, and it still did so bad that it's almost like, well, if they didn't put that in the title, then how many views would I got? It's not sure, it's not even registering, bro. It's not even registering. crazy. Anyway, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:01 He's looking like Dan Aykroyd. It ain't working. Anyway, let's continue on here. What else are we guys to talk about? So, have you heard there's crazy rumors going on in the streets? About what? And I feel like people are scared to report on this.
Starting point is 00:56:16 It's starting to really trick out. No, no, go there. Poo Shai Zee and Gucci Man. Oh, yeah. He signed Pus Shikis five, six years ago. Okay. Now, I don't want to tell you
Starting point is 00:56:27 what I'm about to tell you. tell you, but I've had multiple Memphis insiders tap in with me, not Stan G. You ain't had no multiple fucking go-in. I have. I have. And I don't need that either because a lot of other people have been tapping in about it. But the story that's
Starting point is 00:56:42 going around that everybody's scared to report on, and this is just a rumor, is that basically pusha-stie and choppa gang ran down on Gucci-Maine, relieved him of some of his possessions, and basically
Starting point is 00:56:58 forced him to sign a contract releasing Pushai-Sty from 1017 the label. Okay, well, here's the thing on that, right? That's what a lot of people are saying. I'm not saying it's true. I'm just saying a lot of people. I hit a couple of industry insiders just to get their thoughts. Like, yo, you think this is true? They all heard the same rumor as me, and they all weren't able to confirm 100%.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Okay, so here's the thing, right? It's one thing. If he got a release, then maybe it's some truth. to it. Yeah. If he don't got a release, there's no
Starting point is 00:57:31 truth to it, but I think it's bullshit because why would Poo Shishti's we haven't heard Gucci Man
Starting point is 00:57:41 mentioned any of this and why would Poo Shisci's team put that out when this is identical to the same type of case controlling case
Starting point is 00:57:53 he just did time in the fairs on. And I agree. That sounds insane to get out of doing four years in the feds and then immediately do something that would basically get you right back in the feds. No, no, no, no. That's not insane. Insane is your team putting that out there in the streets. But nobody's putting it out there. This is just what- Somebody had to put it out there. Listen, loose lips and
Starting point is 00:58:13 I've just been hearing about it. I'm guessing that they're probably trying to not have it be out there because nobody wants to see who go back to the feds. We haven't heard Gucci ban saying anything. Would you if you got the shit beat out of you and had all your shit took? That's my point. So that mean it would have to come from the Poo shyshe's side. Listen. He's still in the fucking halfway house. That is true. So like you get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:58:39 Like, bro, it got to be some bullshit. And that's my thing, too, is that... Unless he's that damn stupid. Gucci lives in Miami. Gucci... He lives in Florida. It probably goes to Atlanta a bit, maybe Memphis. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Like, where would this have taken place? Who is in Dallas, right? $1,000. So it's like the only, like, why would they have even been in the same place? Unless they had arranged a meeting, here's the thing too. I feel like personally that things have been probably pretty bad with push ice and Gucci Man for a little while. When you listen to the FDO song that Pushaii put out, he's shouting out, Yo Gotti.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Anybody who f***s with Gucci Man seems to me, you do not with Goghati. Like, these lines have been drawn in the sand. That's not a, that's not like a cool thing. If you're signed to Gucci Main, you are not showing Yogadi look. So that right there stands out to me too. And I mean, some of the people, because this is the whole thing with us. Maybe it's some Memphis love. This is the whole thing with us not having like a clear source on this.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Because I had people hitting me up saying, yeah, Pushaiste and some of Gadi's people are the one who did this. Again, no clue. Now y'all throwing Gadi in there. I'm guessing that the full version of the story is not as exciting as what we're getting at. Why would Gadi have anything to do with that? Because Pushiasty is like the king of Memphis right now. terms of like up and, well, not up and coming, but like hot young rappers. He's basically the whole deal. And he's also the one rapper that didn't pick a side between CMG and paper route, paper route.
Starting point is 01:00:13 And as a result, you can imagine that, you know, Yo Gotti probably on his line, like trying to do something for him, especially since Gucci seems like he's at an all time low in terms of interest in promoting new artists or pushing the label side of 1017? First of all, he dropped to everybody besides Poo and Fugiatto. First of all, Gucci did his part. Did he not? When he signed him, gave him a bag, gave him the push. Pooh took three years from him.
Starting point is 01:00:40 Did he not? I think four. Yeah, he went to jail. Prison, yeah. Okay, so now, I'm pretty sure Gucci does good business with doing what he got to do, you know what I mean, whatever it was contracts he obligated to. But what I'm saying is, I don't, maybe they got some internal shit going on, but to say Gucci was robbed and push-I-C-T is talking about it.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Yeah. While he's in a halfway house. And this is super similar to his controlling case. Well, but the case with the green Lambo was just basically him meeting up with some random-ass trapper. It was him what? He met up with some random ass. And what happened?
Starting point is 01:01:26 A robbery? Pulled out of Draco. A robbery. Okay, yeah. Okay. Right? A little similar, yeah. But so what I'm saying is,
Starting point is 01:01:34 I don't want to believe that pool is that damn dumb or his people is that damn stupid to say these things if this happened while this man is in a halfway house. And if the so-called victim hasn't spoke on it. But let's say that, let's say, if we're just going to believe this hypothetically, Let's say he had five, six people with him. One of them mentions it to somebody, somebody mentions to somebody else. There's a, there's got to be a reason. Bro, I'm telling you, the whole music industry has heard this rumor. Everybody's heard this rumor and nobody can confirm 100%.
Starting point is 01:02:11 So maybe there is a real sincere effort to keep it low-key, but it's not like this is being swept under the rug. And I'm just now starting to see YouTubers make videos about it. Trappler-Ross just dropped a video about it. Because people are talking about it. What details does he have? I don't know. I don't watch it.
Starting point is 01:02:28 It was like a half hour. But either way, I'm just saying that, that right there makes me feel like maybe we will know something more about this. I'll tell you this. I think Pushaise knows the new Gucci. He don't know the Gucci we know. If something like that did happen,
Starting point is 01:02:44 it's just not smart. Even if you cannot, and you understand this, make somebody sign something under duress, right? You can. No, you can. Will it be respected? in a court of law, that's up for debate.
Starting point is 01:02:58 So now what just happened if you did do this, let's say this happened. Yeah. Now Gucci got the power to put your ass on the shelf. This is a fact. Yeah. Right? Put you on the shelf, tie you up two, three years,
Starting point is 01:03:13 trying to get out of contract. Every time you put something up, he can snatch that shit right on down. This is just real shit. Okay. I will say this, though. Why would you, you can't? It is hard to believe that Pushai's,
Starting point is 01:03:26 could be dumb enough to do this. That's all I'm saying. But when you look at the cases that Pushitsy has that led to him getting those years in prison, I mean, it was hard to believe those things happened as well. We already talked about the robbery that happened with the Green Lambo and everything, but the really crazy thing was that he was performing on stage with a gun hanging out his pocket,
Starting point is 01:03:46 with a bunch of money hanging out of the other pocket, and somebody snatched some of the ones out of his pocket or whatever, and he ended up shooting out of a shot of security guard inside the club. I mean, that was pretty hard to believe at that time, too. The footage disappeared, right? Of that? Yeah. I don't remember exactly how I went back.
Starting point is 01:04:01 That's the fact. It disappeared. I know that for a fact. Yeah. Right? My biggest concern, I don't want one of my top rappers of all time. Gucci Main Leflare, millionaire, but don't get no care. I don't want to, like, think of him getting robbed.
Starting point is 01:04:19 I was hoping he could just have this quiet life for the duration of his life. Gucci Man to be robbed, right? That mean it was a sneak attack. Yeah, because... Picture me, listen. Picture me coming here on a Thursday, right? Walking into your office. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:37 And I pull a gun out on you. Yeah. It's a sneak attack. It wasn't like there was some shit with some shit was going on. Right? So if this had to happen, let's...
Starting point is 01:04:48 Me knowing Gucci, and I know Gucci. Gucci could have been in the studio somewhere. Hey, yo, bro, we coming through. Let's just say maybe Gucci made arrangements to come to Dallas. Let's say that. Pools in dollars fucking them a book for studio time. We're going to get it in. All I, okay, hey, pull them at the door, let them in.
Starting point is 01:05:07 Can't come in, right? It had to be some shit like that. Right? It was like Gucci wouldn't have been anticipating the problem. Yeah. Or it wouldn't have been that easy. So, you know, at the end of the day, it's like, I would hope he didn't do that, you know. It would be the ultimate irony because keep in mind,
Starting point is 01:05:29 Gucci Man was someone who was considered like unsignable back in the day in Atlanta because his reputation of being a jackboy was so strong. Everybody knew him for taking shit. That was what everybody knew him for. Wasn't necessarily like a cocaine entrepreneur or whatever like Gizi was saying. He was he was the jug man. He was taking shit. And I mean, when I look at this, I'm kind of like, wow, that would be the ultimate irony.
Starting point is 01:05:53 if the biggest artist that he signed in the last 10, 15 years ended up going out like that. Again, again, a motherfucker you didn't open up some doors for. Did a laugh for it. If this happened, I hope it didn't happen. So you're saying I'm Gucci-Main and Pushai-Ce is AD?
Starting point is 01:06:13 I agree. Snake. No, A-D. just left, though. Yeah, he talked about shit. He didn't rob me. I guess that's good. It was good for content. It was new.
Starting point is 01:06:23 It didn't rob me. I got to give them back. It was nothing but content. It was tripping me out. If this shit really happened, we'll know shortly because the feds are arresting people for pimping. Right? If we heard this rumor, it can't be that long before the feds hear this rumor. And you know how many phones they own.
Starting point is 01:06:46 And if any of them dudes, any of them dudes is talking or made a video or any of that shit, you can't delete it. You know when they want to get it, they're going to get it. It's up there in that cloud somewhere, right? They're going to get it. If there's one person who's never going to tell those, Gucci Man, right? Gucci ain't doing no talking about nothing. He would never. But who was with Gucci Man is a thing.
Starting point is 01:07:05 That's the question. But that's also kind of part of what makes it interesting is that you never see Gucci with anybody. He lives in his own little world. And I've had this conversation with people who worked with him throughout the years who were kind of like trying to explain to me. Because I remember, you know, Todd Moskowitz. Yeah. I remember because he worked with Gucci. forever.
Starting point is 01:07:23 And I remember having a conversation with him and telling him, I'm like, y'all want to like go hang out with Gucci for a week and do this crazy video together, et cetera. And he was basically just like, I don't think it's a good idea. I don't know. He's basically just like Gucci. He lives in his own little universe. He's got like a, he doesn't have a manager.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Tim, it's his girl. He had a manager? Maybe his security. Yeah, but I don't think he's had a manager in like many, many years. Yeah, you know one of his top managers was, Coach Kay. Yeah, but I'm saying. Then he managed Gizi. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:52 You were talking about some shit from 20 years ago. But he ain't really had people around him like that. 20. You might be, yeah. It's been a long time. Over 10 years. Basically, like, I've kind of got the idea from talking to people who knew Gucci. Because keep in mind, this is a podcast named after Gucci Man lyric.
Starting point is 01:08:10 If anybody, if there's any interview that I really have felt like I needed to just kind of like put a feather in the cap of no jumper. By Gucci. It's like one of my favorite rappers of all time. I have had the chance to meet him and hang out with them a little bit, and that was great. Actually, I was at a club, and P was there as well. But all I'm saying is that I've kind of been advised by people like, nobody really stays close to Gucci for too long. Yeah, I mean, listen, bro, I hope does it happen?
Starting point is 01:08:43 You're saying some crazy things right now. I did see the exposers in our chat mentioning some things and saying some things. Yeah. Hernandez-Govain got real specific. You said he got raw for his wedding ring and that he is now signed to Yogadi. That doesn't sound wise, honestly. I don't think Yogi would involve himself like that.
Starting point is 01:09:05 That's what I'm saying. Like, if you signed him immediately after that, I mean, Yogii seems like somebody who's really focused on staying out of trouble. Yeah, I don't. He's been around some of the craziest shit in the recent years of hip-hop and has not managed to get involved. Why they keep bringing dude, like let Yogi-Di,
Starting point is 01:09:22 Let your Goddy make his announcements, man. Yeah. That's crazy. But shout out Gucci. Our whole push ICA did nothing that stupid to a point that it's out there. Yeah. You're in a halfway house. You still got one foot in the institution, one foot out.
Starting point is 01:09:40 Yeah. Gucci should have signed four extra. The hell we got to do it four extra. I'm just saying he's like... Kevin Gates should have signed four extra. He signed like every gangster rapper from all over the place. You can't knock Gucci. He got an ear for it, though.
Starting point is 01:09:57 A lot of these rappers that's tied to other people come from Gucci. I feel like the signing artist part of Gucci's life is over, especially after this. Even if this is like 1% of what we're saying it is, I think that's over. I mean, he's kind of acknowledged that. But bro, what's really going to be over is Poo Shai-Ci career. He's going to put his ass on the shelf. Your ass going on the motherfuckin' shelf, boy. It's hard to imagine him really, like, getting tried for this, because who's going to tell, who's going to tell the story?
Starting point is 01:10:32 You don't know who was in there? Yeah. Okay, I come in there, right, do some shit. Maybe the twins won't say nothing. Josh over there in the corner, he for sure going to say something. You may have, you know what I'm saying? It depends on, you get what I'm saying? You don't know who was in the, in the environment, in the room, in the parking lot.
Starting point is 01:10:52 You don't know what the camera footage is called. You don't know. You don't know if one of the dudes that was with him is bad. You don't know whose phone was hot. It's too many factors here. So what I do know is Gucci won't say nothing. But what if there's security guard or what if there's cameraman or producer or whoever else was wherever they was at?
Starting point is 01:11:14 Say something. You can't blame Gucci for that. No, yeah. Adam, I can't, listen, some shit happened here. I can tell you, Adam, hey, bro, let us handle it. I can't stop you or Josh or whatever from doing what y'all going to do. Right. Now you're right.
Starting point is 01:11:31 I would hope. I hope he ain't. Did you see this title? I'm going to admit that I have not watched this, but King Pill did his first interview in many, many months with Cam Coupone. And this part of the title caught my eye reveals being a former Crip general. I told you to do, bro. I wouldn't admit that with a gun to my head if I were him. But I told you the dude that was calling me from fucking,
Starting point is 01:12:01 dude was from four, five, six. Uh-huh. Time bomb. Bix. Time bomb. Told me that when he met dude, he was with a bunch of crips. Mm. He told me, originally not from Pomona,
Starting point is 01:12:18 he, like, from, you know, Victorville or some shit like that. Okay. I don't know. But they said that. But if he's saying it, but dude to say anything, I know dude called me and apologized. He's been hitting me up like crazy. But you call it his old manager because I told him.
Starting point is 01:12:34 Stefan Belafonte? I said, bro, what you don't know. What, Stefan hit you up on behalf of King Bill? Hell yeah. He said, bro, you were right. He did exactly what you said he was going to do. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because we was bumping hands behind it.
Starting point is 01:12:44 And I'm like, bro, you don't even know what you f***ing it would like, Stefan. Me, you go way back 15 years or better, right? He was like, you don't call me about this dude. He was, like, going for back from him. I said, when he snake you and put a dagger in your back and he hit me. He's like, bro, you were right. He's snake me.
Starting point is 01:12:59 King Pill keeps telling me, like, let's go viral. Let's do this. I'm like, brother, like. Right now, recent? Hit me up today. Let's go viral. That's weird. I don't really think he's viral like that, number one.
Starting point is 01:13:11 And number two, it's like, you know, I can kind of get past like anything in terms of hosts or whatever. Like me and King Yella just patched up via text. You hit me up. He told me he had somebody wanted to do a deal or something. He said, you know, hey, like, I don't give a f***. We could squash it. I said, both. King Yeller's gone.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Me and King Yellow are back on good terms. We're going to do content soon. All I'm saying, this motherfucker laid hands on me. He didn't punch me. He didn't, like, hit me. But he kind of, like, walked me down and was kind of like, you know, he was getting in my space. I wasn't feeling it at all. That's something nobody else, no other host, all these snakes, that's one thing that they never did.
Starting point is 01:13:49 Nobody ever put their hands on me. And I don't like that. He violated you. Yeah. So, you know, that's on you to let that, you know, you know, when a snake bites you, you must first extract the poison. Yeah. Then you get away from and get rid of the snake.
Starting point is 01:14:04 You know what I'm saying? He want to do content with you because what he thought? A lot of these dudes, bro, when you go around them, they get this surge of attention and they think I made it. Yeah. And then when they split off, people want to hear. what they're talking about because he's talking a little shit
Starting point is 01:14:21 and then you may throw a little fireback, a little fuel back and they talk a little shit. But once you mute it up, when we mute shit up, you go away. Nobody wants to hear what you got to say. So now he's trying to make you play the game again. If you get another boost,
Starting point is 01:14:37 it'll be fuck you again too. I feel like we've fucked up some careers. That's a fact. And we should be proud of that shit. I heard somebody mention Black destroys people careers. You motherfuckin' right. If you come at me,
Starting point is 01:14:53 I'm coming back at you with everything I got. I am trying to crush, ruin, and destroy you. I don't give a damn about all that color shit. Right? Because the very same people say these things, all these motherfuckers have brought harm, plot, planned, and cause harm on somebody that's they color, right? So what I will say is,
Starting point is 01:15:16 I don't know about you. It ain't too many people that I've just attacked. They call us reading a blog attacking somebody. No, we're covering the content. Right? I don't know. Have you woke up and just said,
Starting point is 01:15:34 I ain't got a problem with this dude before? And I'm going to go at him. I don't do that type of shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no. Actually, I really try to hold on the relationships with people. That's what's real. Because they're all a bunch of J-cats and they f-ed up. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:15:45 Yeah, that's, that's, Definitely. Yeah. So, okay. I walk into the boxing gym the other day. Who's Blueface Scout with him? Oh, he got Stunner girl. Stunner girl.
Starting point is 01:15:56 I like that. He liked golden retrievers. Why do you say that? Huh? What makes her a golden retriever? She's golden, right? Golden? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:06 She's more of a brown. That's what golden retrievers are. A golden retriever just means a black woman? Shout out. Just fucking witchy. Oh. Listen. I don't actually know what that slum.
Starting point is 01:16:16 That slang means. That slang is, Blueface is the only man we have seen refer the women as dogs and they like it. Yeah. But I mean, when you do it in song. They like it. Yeah. But how do you feel about that relationship? We haven't seen them with a blood female, right?
Starting point is 01:16:35 Well, I know Stunner Girl personally. Yeah. You know, that's always been the home girl. I've been watching her climbing and shit. I too have known her for eight years. I walk into the box. walk into the boxing gym, and me and her just give each other just death glares. She's just staring at me.
Starting point is 01:16:53 Remember what the little dude she was in. Because I did an interview with her ex-boyfriend, and he talked about how she topped him off with the shit back on her head. That's one of the ducks, right? Honestly, yeah. Tiny ducks, yeah, you're on the ducks. It's a young rich mullah. Yeah, but he was with baby duck or whatever.
Starting point is 01:17:07 No, he's a duck. He's one of them. He counseled? I don't even know. But anyway, I really, like, thought about when I saw it. I thought about saying, Stunner girl, just, you know, kind of trolling her, having a little fun with it.
Starting point is 01:17:21 But it's in the boxing gym, and it feels like a place of business, a place where you're supposed to just go in there, be serious, work. So I didn't say anything. And she kind of trotted out there with blueface a little bit later. But, man, that's an interesting love connection
Starting point is 01:17:36 to see coming in. Look, she's been cooking. She's been over there. You know, she's been romancing and keeping that few warm. I think it's a good look. When I saw her, I was thinking, like, Okay, why do we have beef?
Starting point is 01:17:46 Because I wasn't expecting to see her at all. It blew my mind of sear there. And I'm like, oh, right, I interviewed your ex-boyfriend, and he kind of ran his mouth about you or whatever. Really not my fault. But either way, I think she had got shot of something, right? He got shot. And so he had a shit bag.
Starting point is 01:18:01 Okay. And then he was telling me that she was topping him off, and he put the shit bag on her head. I mean, you got to put it somewhere. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah, I was pretty fucked up, right? Yeah, I couldn't believe it when he was saying. I never even knew it.
Starting point is 01:18:14 nothing about that shit. I was maybe like enjoying it a little too much when he was saying it just because that was probably one of the craziest things I've ever heard on this podcast. Just the idea of that. And who knows if it's true? He could have been just having fun with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't know. I mean, I actually like them two together. I feel like that's a good, that's a good collaboration right there. They could, they could do big things together. Oh, yes. They both get a lot of attention. She's in the whole baddies world. He's obviously his own superstar I feel like them two together
Starting point is 01:18:47 a blood girl and a crypt dude fresh out of love too we shoot in Puerto Rico yeah be a good look shooting another season and you even put the other one out yet no the other one's gonna come out
Starting point is 01:18:55 next month here to late next month we'll probably be back shooting the next one probably about June July or something like that when he come back on tour we got a lot of shit we're shooting
Starting point is 01:19:05 bro H2H holds the housewife Dr. Unk 6-07 show we got a lot of shit we shoot but um yeah you know I haven't been over there to see them, but I've been seeing them on the internet. Donna Grill, she's being family.
Starting point is 01:19:19 You know, shit, whatever his decision is, you know, I trust it. Yeah. It looks, it's a good look, though. I'm not going to lie. Today, I walk into the boxing gym. You got Jade in there, and they got the kids, and everybody was getting along great. So that was really nice to see.
Starting point is 01:19:32 The girl was there, too? No, no. Okay. That would be probably kind of weird, yeah. But it was nice to see him and Jaden being good parents. The kid was in the boxing room. Boothair's just like doing his ab work, punching the things or everything.
Starting point is 01:19:43 his kids jumping on him. He was a grand old time. It was hilarious. He was great day. Yeah, it was cool. He actually proposed that we have a play date, which I think it would be pretty cool. He said what?
Starting point is 01:19:53 We have a play date, like with our families, with our kids. Oh, got you. Yeah. I think my kid would get along with her good. Let's do like one more topic, and I can get the fuck out of here. Oh, yeah, what happened to you and Woody? That's all I'm going to ask about because Woody was hitting me up today, saying, wag is whatever.
Starting point is 01:20:12 What was Woody? Y.S. Witty. Little Woody. Oh, he's still YSL? Well. He's told on all them, that's crazy.
Starting point is 01:20:19 I guess so. He's absolutely not. Okay, here's the thing, Adam. I guess his Instagram story is really good. Here's the thing. Yeah. Ficking Remo.
Starting point is 01:20:29 Oh, that's a remote problem. Remo calls me, right? Okay. And says, hey, bro, would he say he want to meet you? It's like 2 o'clock. Uh-huh. I said, bro, I'll be there at 5.
Starting point is 01:20:41 If you there at 5, shit, I guess I'm here. Here? So Woody's in L.A. right now? Yeah, no, this is the first time I met Woody, right? Oh, I didn't know. Now, Woody's been on my fucking FaceTime, my IG FaceTime, a hundred times on some regular shit. Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Right? So I get in five, him and I think might have been his brother, whoever it was. I walk in. Hey, whack, what's up, man? Good to meet you. He regular. I sit down, give him some content.
Starting point is 01:21:10 Content in there. a couple million views out at the table. Oh yeah, I remember that. This is when my dad came. Yeah, yeah. So then he asked, yo, could I come in? I'm like, we don't get, come on, I ain't tripped. But I never changed, I don't never change up
Starting point is 01:21:24 what I say about people in front of them. I remember when I told my dad, dad, he's a rat. He told on his people. I told him that. He laughed it off. I didn't, he's talking about, whack was super nice. Well, motherfucker you had people call and be telling me
Starting point is 01:21:40 What he said really want to meet you? He didn't say, yo, whack. Would he want to fade? He said, what do you want to meet you? He and he got his flight don't lead to whatever. Okay, cool. Now, me and you both know, Adam, if you wanted to do something, that ain't to your advantage.
Starting point is 01:21:55 I wonder what he was doing out here? You didn't you did Vlad or something? I don't know. I think today he was on live. He has this thing that when I went to the feds, I told. Oh, yeah. I've never been to the feds. Right.
Starting point is 01:22:08 I've never had a federal charge. I've never been in federal custody. See, I uploaded this picture of you holding a police badge, which obviously is not real, but yeah, I guess that's why he's trying to get. See, here goes the thing, and I hate to say it. Wag 100 been police so long he started using the we as he speaks on them and then gets mad because I called him out. I told people to leave me alone.
Starting point is 01:22:29 Listen, here goes the thing, Woody. You put a fake police badge in my hand. That's a picture I took in my Shibby and Inglewood, right? It's the old picture. That picture coming straight to a night. magazine, right? All right. Put a picture of you upholding your child that you violated. Put that picture up. Leave me alone. Violated?
Starting point is 01:22:50 Yeah, he don't want to talk about it. Didn't his kid just die? Ask him why. This is getting dark. Okay, I'm just going to avoid that. Can you just tell me, how do you come across this new big, sad paperwork? And are you at all surprised that it feels like nobody really cared that much? Oh, they cared. Yeah?
Starting point is 01:23:12 I haven't really heard anything. I've seen you posted. It looked kind of damning. Well, this is the thing, right? And I told Anne Hefe this, because I had to correct him. I heard the motherfucker say, Wack, starting plodling with the Crips. No, look, nigger, the Crips call Whack and say, whack, can you put this up?
Starting point is 01:23:30 This dude told on the homie. I seen it. It was 20 years old. I said, damn this shit 20 years old, right? They put me on the phone with the dude. named T-Loke from Mansfield. He said, Wack, I got 27 years, no L. I've been down 20.
Starting point is 01:23:47 I'm still on the 180 with 400 and some points. I didn't give a fuck about an appeal. When I got to my appeal and settled down from fucking up, I got my paperwork back. I'm reading through it. I sent it home. My family said, yo, Big Sad gave a statement on you. He's like, what you mean?
Starting point is 01:24:07 Big Sad is Reggie Williams. How do you know this? Because when they expose the other shit, the shit we expose, we know it's real name. He said, so when I'm talking to him, he said Big Sables from another gang like MHG or some shit like that, then he turned by yourself then Playboys, right? He said he used to have the little nigga Woodyman and all this. He's in an investigative report giving a full-blown statement.
Starting point is 01:24:32 Hey, look, bro, I got a lot of people I've been known for 25, 35 years. If they called me saying, whack, can you put this up? I'm going to put it up. What kills me are these so-called street niggas who mad that street niggas is getting exposed from telling. It makes me look at you like, are you mad because you get nervous?
Starting point is 01:24:55 Because maybe possibly something's out there on you? I wasn't looking for it. They sent it to me. Right? So what I want you to do, go address the Crips that sent it to a post-it. and say, we got a problem when you were exposing somebody that told. Has Big Sad reacted to it at all?
Starting point is 01:25:14 Oh, no. I don't think he want to because the dude got what he got and dude, you know, he on his way home in a couple years, right? Oh. So this ain't nothing. I went down to last shit we went looking for. This ain't nothing I went looking for. Look, bro, you see it, right?
Starting point is 01:25:33 Yeah, I read it. Look, you see it. I don't know who the fuck this is. They're giving me instructions. who it is. Yeah, because this is before the K-Swiss situation. Yeah, this was three years before that. Actually, 20 years ago, 2006.
Starting point is 01:25:50 20 years for show. So you know, I think you guys are bringing in a paperwork from two decades ago is kind of amazing. No, but here goes the thing, right? It's really not a miss. A lot of people sitting in there with a murder book who've been in there 20, 15, 30 years, who just, you know, at that time,
Starting point is 01:26:04 people weren't running paperwork on the streets on the Internet. You get what I'm saying? And now it's like, and I'm gonna be real. I might have did somebody in favor. Because what if it's a dude in Tennessee doing business with Big Sack? And didn't know that he guilty of these top allegations. You get what I'm saying? So his music is still what it is, you know?
Starting point is 01:26:24 He got some nice, fire-ass music. I know how you feel about him, but I feel like Big Sada. I'm not tripping dude. He's done a songs since that initial controversy with a lot of L.A.'s top gangsters, myself for extra, Anne Hefe, Babystone Gorillas. It kind of felt like he had that controversy,
Starting point is 01:26:43 and it kind of went away. Look, here goes the thing. I don't know if this makes that worse. And I sit back and I look at Athe and I laugh a little bit. Why? Because that's Ann He's partner, right? He don't want this shit to be that.
Starting point is 01:26:56 But I'm going to be real. It's that. He knows it's that. But that's still his partner. And the reason why I laugh, because I'm the main motherfucker that I tell you, I may not hang with. I ain't gonna do no street shit with,
Starting point is 01:27:08 no gangster shit with, but I will do business with whoever. As long as it wasn't targeted at me and mine. Now, you can't be then told on me and mine and I f*** with you. But if you had told him the nigger way over there and you just happen to be the seller of the home I want to buy,
Starting point is 01:27:25 I'm not going to hold it to get you. I'm gonna buy the home. Yeah. Right? And so at the end of the day, there's no expiration date to discover when a nigger rat it. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:27:35 Yeah. There's no statute of limitations to rat. I mean, if you rat and you get to 12 years, it don't matter. That's not how that works. Yeah. They ain't going to do nothing about it, but don't get mad at me. Call your people. They just don't whack-gold post it.
Starting point is 01:27:51 There it go. That's what it is. I think that came out. The Luce Cannon shit came out. You know, the tapes came out or whatever. It's an attorney doing the bozo shit. That's Luscanon's brother. Luscanon's brother made that call.
Starting point is 01:28:03 You know what I'm saying? Like, we don't get a phone. people call us what's going on. I'm like, bro, I don't know. Put the attorney on the phone. So if you had to put money on it, what percentage chance do you think there is that Luce Cannon is telling on Big You?
Starting point is 01:28:14 Oh, that's a fact. You're fully confident in that. This is the second time the attorney has tried and said, we're going to make it look like Tremaine's turning into information to get amnesty. The first time we got it, ghost. Do you think that's why Sheree dipped?
Starting point is 01:28:30 She ain't a street person like that. Listen, Sheree knows a lot. She got on no area. He knows not to fuck with her. That's an interview I might pay for. Yeah. So, let's go.
Starting point is 01:28:40 She knows, he knows not to fuck with her because she knows everything. Oh my God. That might not be the most viral interview, but for me on a personal level, I know I would really enjoy it. Yeah, she knows everything.
Starting point is 01:28:53 Like, so he, what's crazy is he's so f***ed up in the head. He calling, right? Telling, trying to get people to expose he trying to blackmail her. Mm. saying some crazy shit about she orchestrated amongst other women, right?
Starting point is 01:29:08 And then he had getting to say, that's my wife. I would never. Nigel, yes, she was, nigga. You had your brother calling around with your other little dude. Like, yo, if the bitch don't come back, I'm going to tell him this, this, this, this, this. And I'm going to press charges about this, this, this, that. I don't understand how him and his brother are still on good terms or working together after all the shit. Bro, the nigga be calling Gigi now.
Starting point is 01:29:30 And Gigi was fucking over him. Yeah. He's weird. Wait, I thought he fucked over Gigi. Gigi was, no, Gigi exposed everything. Yeah, yeah. Right, so I don't, you know, I don't know, bro. You know, end of the day, it is what it is.
Starting point is 01:29:45 People call me, I hear it, I see it, I read it, I check it is there. It goes up. Don't get mad at me. Don't shoot the post, man. I ain't the one sending it. Wait a minute, Mr. Postman. There we go. And when there's nothing but sports shit kick, it's really going down.
Starting point is 01:30:01 We got a whole segment just for rat paperwork. Oh, wow. You're going to be able to upload it your goddamn self. Don't blame me. Blame them. And for the ladies in the federal prisons that's been calling me, there are dozens and dozens of y'all because y'all don't have a voice, y'all be able to go right on there,
Starting point is 01:30:18 upload your goddamn snitch paperwork, all these street niggas that told on the women, there's a lot of women in there doing time. For sure. And that's it. Don't blame me. Read it and weep. Don't blame him.
Starting point is 01:30:31 Can I tell you, just to speak on the, the boxing thing just lately i'm gonna tell you something this has been the biggest fucking roller coaster emotionally for the past couple weeks because i've had days where i felt like bro i am gonna win this thing and i have had days where i was like i am never going to box again this sucks sparring and getting hit in the fucking head this is one thing i really realized from this i don't like getting hit in the head but you got to get it for somebody but you got to get it for somebody. Can you imagine getting in the ring for the first time the night of the fight?
Starting point is 01:31:07 Yeah. And you're, oh, shit, what's that? Yeah. Now you understand what that is. This big Russian motherfucker punched me with a right hook to the fucking head. Did he hit you the forehead? Or it's like, pow, right there. You see the little white stars?
Starting point is 01:31:21 I didn't see the stars. I was actually blank a little bit. Because when I'm telling this story to people, that's what they always say. You see the stars? I'm like, no, I didn't get to the point of seeing the stars, but stuff kind of had a fucking sore neck ever since. But either way, I mean, getting hit in the head. head sucks.
Starting point is 01:31:34 Well, you're able to get something in. And also, I did the Pac-Man Jones interview after, like right after I got hit in the head, maybe five hours later. I just want everybody who has watched, like, a lot of my interviews, watch that interview and tell me if I seem a little retarded because I felt like my brain was not quite firing the way it was supposed to. But keep it real. It now helps you because you know what to expect.
Starting point is 01:31:58 You're going to be a little more cleaner and wiser with what you're doing in the ring. When I was sparring today, my coach. who does not seem like he's just gassing me up, he was saying your defense is way better now. Yeah. I think, and a big thing I realize in the sparring thing, too, because I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 01:32:13 Like, when I got hit, I kind of, like, I was kind of like turning my back a little bit and shit. And my coach is saying, no, this has got to be life or death when you're in that ring. There's no taking time off.
Starting point is 01:32:25 There's no fucking turning your back, whatever. So now I'm really, I've been just like meditating on that killer instinct of like, it doesn't matter if, your cardio is f-ficked by round two or three, you got to do this.
Starting point is 01:32:37 You got to just go to war the whole time. I think your cardio's way better than this. I have reason to- We hit the stairs. We did the stairs last week. Right? Fucking mile and something walk, hiking through the mountains.
Starting point is 01:32:51 Then you get to the stairs. It was about eight fucking, I don't know. What the shit. I'm going back tomorrow. I asked chat. It was 240 stairs, I think. That's all it is? I know.
Starting point is 01:33:01 It felt like more, right? But by the time we got there, My calves was on fire, right? Yeah. The hike, right? Now I know it to expect hiking. But, and I was a little worried about the hike back, and it was nowhere near as bad I thought it was. But you went up and down those stairs three times.
Starting point is 01:33:16 Yeah. I did one and a half. And then had to shadow box at the top of the stairs for three minutes straight. And if I stopped moving my feet, my coach is freaking screaming at me. That was a little tough. I'm not going to lie. Because, listen, me and my girl many times have gone to the Santa Monica stairs, going to, like, there's random colleges around our place.
Starting point is 01:33:33 whatever and just do a little workout date, go run the stairs for an hour or whatever. It is way different when you got a big-ass Russian dude screaming at you and not letting you stop. And only then you get 60 seconds of rest once you get to the bottom of the stairs. Now you're going to start going back up the stairs. I got this exercise bike. Anybody, yo, if anybody out there does Zwift, look at up Z-W-I-F-T, look up Zwift. If you buy a Zwift, it's also like, it's an exercise bike, but it connects to this online world. I'm getting so into it that I'm kind of worrying that the boxing.
Starting point is 01:34:03 thing might kind of be over after this because I'm so into getting into like endurance cycling. All you got to do is get the peloton. Yeah, yeah, okay. This is different, but you don't even, it's not that expensive if you just buy the thing and you mount an existing bike to it. Or I got the like the standalone bike, but I'm so into this endurance cycling shit. I just went to fucking R.E.I.
Starting point is 01:34:23 and bought these shorts. I never knew that the cycling shorts have like a big padded groin ass thing on it. Yeah, for the seat. Yeah, I never knew that. Yeah, you need that shit. And I actually, I did a 45 minute ride on it yesterday, cranking my ass off the whole time. I ended up being 21 miles. My gooch and my asshole were killing me after.
Starting point is 01:34:43 And Chad told me like, no, like basketball shorts with boxers is like the worst thing that you could wear. On a bike. Yeah, that's not good. No underwear ever is what it said. Yeah, you need those shirts. I've been learning a lot. And actually, your, your FTP in cycling, it's your, uh, Shit, what is it?
Starting point is 01:35:03 It's your FTP. Shout out to Zach. Shout out to Zach. Oh, man, Jack. It's your functional threshold power. That's like the measure of how good you are as a cyclist. So that's what I got to really work on because I don't think there's any way better to get your cardio on another level than long distance cycling like that with this thing. And I never got to leave my backhouse.
Starting point is 01:35:24 I can sit there. I just been listening to Drake albums. Yeah, mine is in my in my, I got a crazy backhouse. I'll bigs your back house. I don't know. Pretty small, but we make it work. Yeah, I got it. That's the funny thing about watching all these indoor cycling guys on YouTube
Starting point is 01:35:39 is that they're all from the UK and Australia and shit, and they all have, like, pretty small apartments. So it's like you got the little exercise bike. You got the crib two feet away. You got the wife watching TV two feet away from that. It's like they just are condensed as fuck out there. Man, it's crazy. Anyway, I'm going to go home.
Starting point is 01:35:58 I'm going to curl up in a ball. This body needs to rest. I gotta eat some carbs. Shout to everybody who watch this. Please smash the like button. We will not be recording next week because we will be in Miami, but we are going to be blanketing the streets with content.
Starting point is 01:36:11 You leave it. Tuesday. You leave it on Tuesday. Yeah. The fight's what? Friday. Friday? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:19 Oh, man, what you mean? We should record Thursday at aiding spot. Ain't you bringing our guys? We could record in theory out there. I'm going to be recording like a whole vlog. Let's put it together. Uh, yeah, I'm trying not to, like, sign up for too much shit that I don't necessarily want to do. Mentally, you want to be in it.
Starting point is 01:36:38 I mean, everybody just keeps asking me to do content, go on their podcast, etc. And I'm like, bro, right now more than ever, I'm turning down everything extracurricular. Even sitting down and doing that fucking Pac-Man interview just felt like the heaviest mental load imaginable. Like, it's just, I'm really looking forward to not preparing for a boxing match after this. So I can, I feel like I'm going to understand. how good I got it after this. Because doing content is a fucking breeze. This should never stress me out ever.
Starting point is 01:37:07 Listen, man, do what you got to do. I'll be there. Shout out to my man, Crowley the 5th. We've been in the editing move, man, breaking down this fresh out of love shit. We had 60 terabytes of footage. Wow. A lot of shit.
Starting point is 01:37:19 So we see y'all the week after next. Let's go. How long was this? Hour 41. That's pretty good. All right. Shout out to everybody who watched this. We love you.
Starting point is 01:37:30 And I mean it. smack like button heard inside a clubhouse and I will be bringing the W home for y'all that's a fact that's a fendie fact he's gonna whoop that nigga's ass
Starting point is 01:37:38 mm-hmm yeah

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