No Jumper - 607 Unc Disses the 🅱️ team? Ak vs Washed Up Podcasters, Luce Cannon’s Brother Shows Up

Episode Date: June 23, 2025

Adam and Wack react to the 607 Unc situation, and Luce Cannon’s brother pulls up! ----- Shout out to all our members who make this content possible, sign up for only $5 a month    / @nojumper   Promote Your Music with No Jumper - https://nojumper.com/pages/promo CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://nojumper.com NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901    / nojumper    / nojumper    / nojumper    / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22    / adam22    / adam22   adam22bro on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I mean, we're already recording, right? You do this. This is the thing about it. I was annoyed as soon as I figured out what he was saying, because to me, bro, don't put us in that position. Don't say that kind of shit. And it's not like a-

None of us do that. It's not a lesson that we had to learn again. We already learned this with the DW situation. It fucking was a monstrous. And that shit was light. And that was a light one. That was hard to hear. It's kind of in the background.

Somebody else was talking. to turn up the ball and to hear it. I mean, a lot of people don't know that people call cigarettes that or whatever. No, no, no, no, no. Not dead. No. No.

You said was in your face. That she was like, yeah. So my, that's what I'm saying. Like, bro, like, I text you, I'm like, yo, bro, dude can't be talking to super duper blood shit. Because like, blind or not, bro. You're trying to turn this into an anti-munchy thing,

which I also am opposed to the record. Hold on. What do they say happens when you lose one of your senses? The other ones get, stronger, right? And boy, can he smell. So if you're sitting there, wait, you know you for it? No, I just, you know, he's always

wearing a nice fragrance. So if you're sitting there, you know this dude's talking for 30, 40 minutes. I'm thinking your shit, you know he's right there. I would have respected if he jumped up, took off swung eight times, in the air, missed everything. I'd have been like, that's what

he was supposed to do. Do you want to know the annoying part about this? Because he'd be going too hard. The week's preview, episode. I can't even see the dude now. It's like got me in a bad spot. Now you gotta smash his head on with a rock or something. No, but I don't want. That's what I'm saying. He should have handled that shit.

And then it ain't on what you call us there to make sure Munchy right. That's his guy. But he's a Crip. So he can't really react like that unless it goes somewhere. And Hife. You know what I'm saying? And Hife has the best facial expressions in general. Like he always, like you could

just kind of look at his face and figure out what's going on the rest of the podcast. And also, I love that the Reddit is so fascinated with AN Hefe's laugh. But, uh, okay, this is my thing. I kind of forgot what I was going to. It felt very important in the moment. This is my thing is that obviously Munchy's in a situation where it's going to be hard for him to react. Like the old Munchy, we've heard stories about the old Munchy.

It probably obviously would have been a very different time. I don't know. He put Munchy in a fucked up spot that he wasn't really in the position. to deal with. Bro. And now I'm shook because next time we do that podcast, even if Munchy's really trying to hold shit together, I wouldn't be surprised if he's got a homie with him

that wants to have some words with him. But Munchy was supposed to blindside him, bro. But what's he going to do, bro? He's sitting a couple people away from him. He swings. He might hit lush. No, but it don't matter. It don't matter.

It doesn't matter. It matters. Bro. Reality matters. As long as he was headed in the direction of the sound. whether he hit anything or not because at that point down that gate

and Hefe would have filled in the blanks while they didn't have got involved with that he probably would have tried to break it up like all of us would have. No, nah, that would have done. I want to jump in between them.

Listen, him and Munchy is cool. Right? And you know, it's, you know, all the shit that didn't went on, right? Soon as much you would have jumped up

and did this, Hefe would have hit the plate. Here to here. That's it. That's all we needed, bro. I mean, Munchy be going to extra out, calling niggins out their names and shit.

All right, all right. Peep the lore, though. Pete the lore. Last week, the week before this, Munchy and Unk were both sitting on the stools side by side. And Unk be doing all this gai-shy. I got to talk to him at some point, but he'd be... I'm going to get your damn nerves. He acts like he's retarded.

He does all this weird asses. Bro, that's what he does. At one point in it, though, he stands up. His belts open. His pants are like falling down. And at one point he drops to his knees. He's kind of like in front of Aunt Hefe. It almost looks like he's like hinting at something weird.

Even at that moment, I'm like, oh, no. Like if you do some gay shit to Anne Hefe, I feel like he might just fuck you up. So Munchy texted me after that appearance and say, yo, we got to work on our seating plan or whatever because I don't want to be sitting next to Unk if he's going to be doing some zesty shit. So I'm guessing that he's getting calls. Somebody.

he's tapping in with him saying, hey, bro, you look crazy sitting next to this fool when he's doing those weird ass shit. And so... But that's what he does, though. And then Unx follow-up to that is like, oh, I'm going to say something that is literally going to upset

like half of the gang members in LA. Nice. Wait. But see that, see, he playing. And he's playing and half of it, I ain't going to front. Half of it is all our faults. All of it.

Why you said that? Because none of us, we're all in this lane. We're all in this lane doing what we're doing with this podcast thing. And we're telling ourselves mentally we're stepping in the space that we probably shouldn't be in with people that probably don't understand our rules. So kind of like you know you got to let some things slide until you get warning. and people see that and try and think they can get away with it and tell you that lot of winner. Until you that lot of winner and then it happens.

Like, listen, like Rick Rock, I tell people I know the real Rick Rock, right? That dude right there is a dude that's really, you know, his skits and all, that's him really finding this balance. but you put Rick Rock in one of them situations and did you, for me, the same, we all got our trick.

Like, I thought Munchie would have jumped up. What surprised me, let's say he don't know what direction in, which I know he does because he knows where he's at, right? Well, but we did an episode the other day where, like, at one point his chair was kind of facing away, and, like, it took him a while to, like, turn, like, I think somebody would, like, turn to face the conversation. If he would have jumped up.

say he's not as tapped into what's going on maybe all the time. Okay. If he would have jumped up, it's like his reaction when he heard that he responded, because the way he, you know, I thought it would have been a little more aggressive response, but 607, man, just word to the wise, like, ain't no making that right. There isn't? Hell no. There's no making it right.

So he's just forever in a bad spot with every blood in. He doubled down on it. Like he dissed the whole. He dissed everything. He's like annoyed that we're acting like it's so obvious that he dissed that community. When to me it's like what did you think it was? Like obviously that's like the title of the YouTube clip is like 607 on disrespects of the bloods. But why's this though?

Responds or whatever. But that's like that's how we view that word. But let's keep it real. Munchy B started to gain conversation with him. Prior to that, well, he was talking about him, he had a hooter tattooed on his belly,

which we didn't know, no of us. No, he was trying to put a battery in his back with the four extras, and it backfired on him. Hmm. Four extras ain't in the room,

so why I mentioned him? He ain't here. Well, it is an interesting conversation to be like, oh, you're supposed to interview four extras tomorrow and you have the word

hooter tattooed on you. That's going to be interesting. Four X's, don't know he or Hoover. He has no reason to give a shit about somebody, Texas, or, excuse me, St. Louis-based. No, but he ain't. I don't know. He ain't.

He ain't. I think he would be interested, but I don't think he'll walk out of the room. Listen, but see, these is things you got to make the proper executive decisions on. Fire on. No, this, no. Look, you do what you want to do. Right? I'm saying, and this is when I be trying to tell you, right,

Yeah. Certain things, if you saying four extras is your guy. Oh, my God. Just like it happened with Almighty. Certain things when you know, you just don't let happen. If that's your guy, why even roll a dice? Knowing this dude is a loose, there ain't no telling what's going to come out of his mouth. Because if he fuck around and dis four extras,

If the right people ain't here, you're not going to be able to stop him. So you think putting them together might be a bad idea? Listen, me personally, I don't want to roll a dice with enough like that because, for one, I think 607 aren't compressed charges. They should both wear boxing gloves. Listen. So if they do start fighting it won't be able to hurt. But here goes the thing. He goes to think.

No. It would take somebody like me or my team to be able to get four extras off of him. me because he respects me. You say there's no use getting a security guard because all the security guards are going to be bitches compared to four extra. You're not going to be at a stop him. He's an alpha male.

You're not going to be able to stop him. The only reason why he'll give me some leeway and let up eventually is because he's going to hear my voice and he respects me. And then in a register, okay, I know it got my best interest. And even then I might have to tussle with this big old nigga, right? but why I put him in that situation knowing that this dude

could say anything that's crazy like bro if I would have been munchy right I'm in a situation where you got a goal and it's like this is why some people I've been like hey bro I don't trust I don't mind whatever we do

we do it every day but to be fair for extra probably would not mind the fact that Unk said that to Munchy. Yeah, but... You probably think that's not funny. No, yeah, because Munchy brought his name up and he inserted it, right?

He don't, I don't fuck with you, you don't fuck with me, why I even mention my name. But if you want to take that risk, the only time I would do that is if I was at the table... See, that's a problem. I'm not going to be there. Across. If I was at the table, if Duel was there... Fo was here and I was there. We'll bring AD back, have him sit in the middle of him.

Right. Then it might be because at that point, I don't think dude that crazy to play. He might be. And I jump in fights and nephew take off. I'm getting off. I mean, like, this is, I view six or seven on as like kind of a comic. He's doing, he's doing stand-up comedy,

but some percentage of his jokes. It's real. are based around gang shit. Now, he knows what he's saying. Apparently everybody in Chicago doesn't mind when he says, I'm BD, I'm GD, I'm vice lord. Bullshit. He says nobody cares.

No, he just says. That sounds good until someone cares. He's not from Chicago. No, until they catch him. But he says he goes there and then nobody gives a shit. I'm saying that sounds good. That sounds good. I'm sure I could think of a lot of funny gang punch lines I could do too, and that a bunch of people would be cool with it.

They'll laugh, the laugh. But then you meet the wrong guy. And then you're like, oh, maybe this was not the proper punch lines. line route. I don't know, man. That really made me think, like, is 607 uncle a little too unhinged to be part of this operation? Hopefully we can

get them to just kind of... I mean, listen, I just... Yeah. I don't... bro, I don't know when a guy does the things he does, right? And I know it's a lot of antics and it's cool, right? He's like an over-animated Orlando Brown, right?

He put everything on his mama, right? That has... It goes on his mom. Yeah. Then he don't care about that. I suspect that he's not actually vowing that with the same level of seriousness. No, no. I think his mom is probably not.

He don't care about it. She's not going to drop dead because he's lying mostly when he says. But here's the thing. I really believe, yes, he's in character and he's trolling, but he knows exactly what he's saying. He's not stupid. Yeah. They dude is not stupid. You know what I'm saying?

So now you got to be able to say. okay, is he doing it to disrespect me? And then if I react a certain way, he claimed trolling. That actually kind of sounds accurate. Yeah, because he's like, oh, I didn't even know you were a blood. Yeah, he knew that. He knew that. And then he doubled down on it.

He said it twice in a row. Yeah, he says something, man, I dropped my motherfucking glass of water. I wouldn't even anticipate that. Really? Yeah, because I'm watching it. But he just said it. he said, whootty, wooey, woo, boom,

something crazy. I should have jumped out of my seat and got on him. On Monchy's behalf. No, you... I'll take the fade form. No, Brandon... That would have been a good move.

Brandon claims Lushy to did it and defending the black people because he defends the Surangios. No, he doesn't. No, he doesn't. No, he doesn't. Brandon, you're also being as a B.S. You understand that Lush is under fire, too,

because we interviewed that little white kid, little brazy. He said that 18, I text you. I text, Both of y'all. You think Lush should have said something? Hell yeah. But Lush ain't really, he's not a tagger crew, right?

Lush started laughing. Mm, yeah. You get what I'm saying? I said, bro, y'all playing some real game. It was like Lush kind of started to like make excuses for him. He's like, I know he means blah, blah, blah. It's like, Lush, you're supposed to act like at least a little kid. You can give him some knowledge.

Like the first thing I said was like, oh, you're doing that? Like, you know, they ain't going like that. Utah. Right outside. Oh, shit. Provo or something. It's the funniest thing ever. I ask him what it's like where he is from.

We beef with the Nortez. That was the first thing he said. That's like 800 miles away. No, but in his town, I guess the Mexicans are Nortangos. And then he's a blood. And I don't know. I thought he said he threw up Crip. No.

Oh, they made him throw up a Cripp side. Oh, yeah. They ran up on the bus. So it was due 10 or 15. 15. Yeah, because I started. get the all kind of. Why is Adam?

Nobody can tell me shit. I fuck with Lil Brazen. Why is Adam? They start hitting me. Why? They start hitting me with the act shit. Ain't no rules to this gangster shit. No.

The act shit, they start saying, Oh, that was grooming him. Why is you having, telling him, I'm sure, I guess you said I'm sure of a chick

18 and 19, you're not, and then here it comes. And I'm like, you know what? I'm trying to find out his policies. He's all talking about my wife. He wants to take pictures with her or whatever.

I'm trying to find out, are you entrapping grown women? Oh, he was talking about, for a second, if anything, that's why I responded with that. But think about it. He's young, he's hot,

he's killing it, he's rising to the top of the rap game. Is he a rapper? He's a rapper? Yeah. Oh, okay. And the bitches love him. Lil Brazy's a sensation.

So what I'm thinking is, he's putting a lot of women in bad situations because they're 35. They're throwing themselves at him because he's such an obvious superstar in the making. He's going to go and put cases on all those women, sue their pants off. Well, you see what's going on with Fat Joe and Tyler Perry? Man, I just heard about that.

What is that about? Do they have actually, like, good evidence on fat? Yo, the sentence, Fat Joe paid for a 15-year-old girl's BBL. I don't believe it. I haven't been able to look into this at all. That's one of the craziest sentences I've ever seen. Well, one, here goes a thing. I don't even know you could do that.

He's saying Fat Joe should be illegal. He's saying Fat Joe filed a. civil on him. I know Fat Joe. Nothing about this man says he's a dummy. And Fat Joe knows that this man has any type of dirt or has any type of knowledge of him in some dirt like this. No way is Fat Joe going to file a civil anything against him to trigger him.

He would have just got triggered. Right. You get what I'm saying? Like, so this is his counter. Oh, I really want to know. He said it was 4,000 situations. Well, okay, I want to know, I'm sure people who are, like, more deeply immersed in the Terror Squad lore could tell us who Terrence T.A. Dixon is? Like, was this guy a real serious part of the movement?

Because, you know, obviously, like, if it's some random guy, then, like, who cares? This probably doesn't hold this much weight. But if the guy's a big deal and if he was really part of that whole operation. But I'm just going to read that. It's some serious names he's mentioning that. Okay. Fat Joe's former hypeman has filed an explosive. lawsuit in federal court against the rapper on Thursday. Dixon is alleging that his

former boss, who's real name, blah, blah, blah, blah, engaged in coercive labor exploitation, financial fraud, sexual manipulation, violent intimidation, and psychological coercion. Dixon added that the hip-hop star behind such topers blah, blah, blah, blah, got rich and famous while he and his associates deliberately suppressed silence and a race. Dixon's substantial creative, artistic, and commercial contributions, which were foundational, Fed Joe's professional success and personal brand he's seeking up to $20 million in damages. I just

really want to read some fucking details. It's like a hundred and something page. 157 page document. Yeah, they're covering it right now. Okay, he was his tight man for 16 years. A common figure in hip hop who supports the artist by engaging in the gun. Okay. He also contributed as a lyricist and background

vocalist on hits such as congratulations and others. According to the complaint, he had an unrivaled vantage point to observe the rappers offstage lifestyle and behavior. Dixon is represented by this lawyer who's also the lead co. Oh, he's also the lead council council in a high profile case against Sean Ditty Combs, which suggests that he might be somewhat legit. But, oh, it's the same lawyer who filed the lawsuit on behalf of Little Rodney.

The black dude who sued Diddy, like saying all that thing. So that makes him sound a little, you know. He's not credible. I mean, he's at least at his credibility thrown in a question for recent. That's the same dude when that act. Dixon states that in the complaint that Fat Joe forced him into humiliating actions including sex acts performed under duress and surveillance accompanied by threats of abandonment

in foreign countries if he refused compliance. By his own estimation, Dixon states in his suit that he was coerced into more than 4,000 sexual acts to make, 4,000, what are we talking about? Yeah, bro, what are he talking about? Most shockingly, the suit claims that Dixon personally witnessed Fat Joe engage in sexual relationships with children who were 15 and 16. He lists three such Jane Does, including a 16-year-old Dominican girl in New York who in exchange for cash, clothing, and payment of her cell phone bill would perform oral sex and other sexual acts on the rapper. Minor Doe 2 is a Caucasian female

and not a United States citizen. Fat Joe began having sexual relationships with her when she was 15 years old after a concert overseas defendant flew minor two, minor doe to to New York City, Miami and Florida on multiple occasions. Due to minor dose to his body being adolescent and not fully formed, Fat Joe paid for her to get a Brazilian butt lift allegedly. And eventually she left defendant and is now married to a professional athlete. Wow, that's going to be thrilling. Yo, I mean, don't they, you can't, they don't do that type of stuff on minors without the parents' consent, right?

I mean. I mean, in the U.S. I mean, if she was moving around and doing her thing, presumably maybe the parents just weren't around, but definitely the parents have to sign off on some stuff. But, I mean, she could get on a plane or she could do whatever. I don't believe it. I am very, very skeptical as well. But it's going to be interesting to see what kind of evidence they can actually bring to the table. I think he's trying to squeeze fat, Joe.

They're talking like 20 million. I mean, anyone who's been sued knows what this is like to read a big-ass document that alleges that you did like a million things that you didn't do. And definitely I don't want to take the bait and just be like, oh, this guy was around him for all these years. So I'm just going to blindly believe all of this shit. Now, if they bring the girls to the table and they're actually saying that these things happened, that might lend some credibility to it. But either way, it's a nightmare for Fat Joe. He just started a podcast with Jada Kiss.

I've seen it. Seems like you're doing quite well in his career overall. Yeah. Tyler Prairie drops a great movie. Strong, I think is the name of it. Probably one of the worst movies I've ever seen. What? Strong?

The dumbest, corniest. lamest movie I've ever seen. My first Tyler Perry film. What are you talking about? I didn't know movies like that existed. Did you see Taraji's her acting? I actually thought her acting was pretty good. It was really more of a storyline.

What was lame about it? Did you get it? Yeah, it felt like an after school special. Like, this is a movie for adults. You're really telling me that this is like a movie that adults are moved by this. Hell yeah. It really makes me think less than humanity. Yeah.

That's a fact. That is sad. Those adults are... You know what was genius about this movie? What? Five locations. That they filmed it in? Bank, school, front line, grocery store, and the middle of the street.

It did feel like it was definitely lacking in terms of production. It definitely was not lacking. No, yeah. They filmed in a five locations. That's indicative of a cheap-ass movie. Do you know that not only women but men, they have breakdowns like, did you get it then? Did you get the end of it? I got it.

did you get? I got it. Oh, it was all a dream. She's experiencing psychosis because she lost her child and she imagined all of this like, Jesus. Bro, you think people don't go? See, this is white privilege at his best. This is you being easily moved to like terrible entertainment. Bro, listen, I think the

chat's going to disagree with you. I've read a lot of commentary about this. This is a great movie, bro. There's a big split. But I actually tapped in with the reviews to make sure I wasn't crazy and a large percentage of people think that this movie was horrifically cringe and corny.

And what I'm interested in is, like, are all his movies like this? How did he get so rich if his movies suck dick so bad? No, brother, that's like saying... Listen, if I was eighth grade, I wanted a move like saying how the little Wayne become the star he is with whack music. No, it's more people that think his music is great than whack. So you just... Oh, no, I thought it was a great movie.

Well, it's no surprise to me that a lot of people are stupid and easily impressed. What do you mean? Stupid. If you were moved by that movie, I really... really think less of you. No offense. So what's a good movie to you? That didn't go to the big screen. You know, actually, I was watching a documentary

last night called The Painter and the Thief that came to heavily recommended by Chad GBT. That's what we do now. We don't even try to find our own movies. We just ask Chad GBT, what's a good documentary? I should watch tonight. And then you raid it afterwards. You tell them what you think of it, and that way you can guide you. And what I said, I just said, hey, recommend a documentary. I like this documentary. I just name it.

named a random documentary I liked and all its suggestions were like things that kind of hit a similar note anyway that's a documentary though okay scarface or american gangster the the fucking american gangster the jZ soundtrack one with denzil i do remember seeing russle bro i i don't remember it anywhere near as well as i don't remember starface american gangster i didn't really like the j z album that's my main memory of that. 300 or Troy? I actually walked out of 300

and I don't even know what Troy is. Yeah, you're weird. We're gonna move on. 300 was terrible. 300 was terrible. I was really young. So I was like 21. That's young?

Well, I was 21 now. I had a year left in prison. Young, man, I guess we had to grow up fast. I'm gonna be really. But you would say 300 was, I don't like,

I don't really like action movies. So to me, like romance movies? No, I, no. I don't watch a lot of movies I think that's why Straw was so shocking to me because I didn't know movies that lame and woke existed What the hell's rainwater calling for?

I just interviewed this boy Twisted Black And that's what it is? Well Yo, what you want? Twisted Black just left He said give him his money, bro Or it's on. No, I thought you was over there with that black

Nicker Twisted Black. He just laughed. He said, you owe him some money. Listen, he's a dumbass. He did 17 years and he didn't get caught with nothing. I would have told on everybody. Say it again.

Oh, he did that and hung up. I would have told him on everybody. Why is Rainwater owner my favorite people? He all right. He's the bastard. He's so funny. Ford versus Ferrari. I like him so much that I feel like I can just talk shit to him and hate on him publicly,

and I know he'll understand, which that to me means like, oh, shit. Rain, Ray, okay. But rain letting you know, I mingle with the thugs. I'm in the streets, but I'm going to tell on you. Hell yeah. I'll fuck with that. Which is good and bad.

Yeah. Because now the person know that, he got to go all the way with you. You know what I'm saying? Now, I've seen him on all fours when he got kicked in his tailbone. They kicked him so hard and broke his hip. For real? Is that just what he said because he was doing a lawsuit? No, he had to go have surgery.

He probably went and saw his homegrown. was working as a nurse and said, hey, you got to say that I brought my head. No, no, no. He had the surgery and all that. Oh, shit. He had to learn how to walk at all kind of shit again. Try boy, Freddie hit him with a, what I are? Yo, I can't believe you said 300 was weak.

That's crazy. Even at 21, I felt like it was kind of insulting to my intelligence. 300? That's an excellent movie, bro. I feel like maybe all the movies that you like are movies that you like and that I was in their corny. I like Scrufface, though. Scarface is kind of corny, I guess.

Road to Perdition. No idea what that is. Oh, wow. What is that? You got to watch that. Time Hanks. Yeah. No, some.

Forrest Gump. Yeah, I love Forrest Gump. Life is like a box of chocolates. That's all you know of it. I've never seen it, but I know the slogan. You should watch Roll to Perdition. Yeah. Real gangster shit.

Oh, yeah. I'll check it out. Old school. White boy politics. Oh, my. years are perked up. No, for real. I'm always looking to engage

some good wooded content. Make a decision. Oh, me, you smoke. What the fuck of that? You smoking this shit out of there. K2, brother. I don't know what that is, bro. Bro, I'm going to Texas tonight.

For what? Get it in. I got all kinds of content. You're going out there with... I don't want to list it off because they're going to... You're going to Houston? And Dallas. I got my, my boys, you got to stop by.

You're going to... You're okay. You know the cats? You do the turkey leg. hut, they blew up the dude's spot. Oh, I got to go there. I got to go there. I almost had you up. I just was on the phone with him. Oh, because they shut it down, but that would be cool.

No, no, it's back up and running. The turkey lake hut is already back? No, the spot they blew up. What do you mean blew up? They blew up the spot across the street, bro. Oh, because they were competing with them. Yeah, that's some gangster show right there. I know we argued last time about my Adrian Peterson. If you got a turkey leg hut and they open up a turkey leg across the street and you blow it up, that's gangster. Adrian Peterson, his manager, that's my guy.

Adrian, I ain't going to talk about him when we talk about it. But I'm going to set you up. He runs it. It's one of the hottest spots out there. I think it's called like 5015 or 5115 or something. I know I'm going to Trillberger. Oh, you got to do that. I got to show my respects.

You got to do that. Bummy, shout out to Bummy. They did tell me, though, it's extremely. He gave my boy twisted black a verse. Now, I'm going to tell you this. I'm hearing the same thing They're saying is real high They're saying the same shit about Marathon too

But I think Marathon is like $33 they're saying But they said bum B's shit like For two people like $90 For a burger You got a beer and a milkshake Burger and fries and give you some type of little mug I think Marathon burgers is that expensive How does you expect to pay for a burger and fries at this point in time

Right now? From a spot like Marathon Burger that's not a fucking giant chain, like 20 bucks, 18 bucks? 18 bucks. Yeah, yeah. So if it is 33, I don't know. Yeah.

But when I ordered a bunch of shit last time, I didn't pay it no mind. I feel like, I mean, isn't it on Postmates? Can we go look right now? Although I know the post... Yeah, I saw a little white dude. He was like doing something on it. The Postmates prices sometimes are different

than the regular prices. But let's see, Marathon Burger. Um, smash burger combo mail, $26. Just a burger is 17. So yeah, it's a little hard, but, you know, whatever. Trill burgers, $18 a combo. Trill burgers $18 a combo as opposed to 26. Granted, Texas lower cost of living than in Illinois.

Yeah, that makes more sense. Yeah, we are supposed to pay the high out. He was talking about it. I'm like, yeah, that's kind of high. That's kind of crazy. Yeah. He's sort of $90 for a burger. I bet an $18 meal is the same as a $26 meal between.

I mean, even like thinking about the cost of living, crazy like yeah they got it good they don't know it but they got it good yeah for real it's two people go eat anywhere simple California fish dish you're gonna spend 50 bucks

yeah me and Lena and the kid went to a burger spot the other day and I think for all seven of us it might have been 70 bucks 75 bucks and then we went to an ice cream spot 35 35 bucks yeah I got three scoops so

Kind of, you know, a kid got one. I think Lenna got one. Yo, so you didn't get mad that I kind of stepped up and kind of said no jumper side when that, did you? Here's my problem with that. It feels like there's all these nuisances and they'll be like on their deathbed, about to go away, shriveling up in the ball into a ball. because you kind of did it was sharp.

You fooled sharp into thinking that we wanted them back and gave him a little bit of, you know, content. He's out of here. And now it just feels like you kind of are doing the same thing. Like, we had almost heard enough of these guys. It seemed like it was almost over. This is what I didn't respect. And now you're sort of throwing us in this.

No, they were kind of like trying to insinuate like when act comes out here, he comes by the build. Yeah. And I think they're salty about that. And I think that he was, they was trying to insinuate like, act can't come out here. So I'm like, what you mean? He can't come out here.

No, he's with us. Yeah, he's with us. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? So my thing is, wasn't they just added over there? Didn't you tell me the little group just broke up? What group?

One of the little movement. You just told me that. Oh, well, I mean, allegedly the Ace Boys broke up, which is pun's squad. I don't know. Pun was saying they're coming back, though. I did see a clip of the other. But how does pun have a squad?

A bunch of crib dudes that he hangs out with it, he does podcast with. It's like a little mini no jumper, I guess. But they split off and they started their own thing. But here's the thing. My boy, Rios. Here's the problem with that over there, right? Nobody has stepped up to be the equivalent to AD over there. It's just real shit.

What does that mean to you? They're just there. A lot of, yeah. I think the Mexican dude probably could do something. Do know? Yeah. But ironically, his podcast on their channel is like the worst viewed podcast that they have, which is kind of confusing. I think maybe they're not respecting them being over there.

I don't think he really wants to be there. They had a whole thing where he called their live show Ghetto and they were like all really upset about it. I feel like the clock is ticking. It feels like, bro. It feels like a house with no grass in the front yard. Yeah. Okay. But how do you feel?

because it's like obviously there was a clip of a pun where they call AD and basically make him say fuck academics after AC diss smack and TRL now AC went out of his way I think

to not dis AD Who was smack? That's a dude got his vest to Yeah the little guy with one foot Yeah He actually gets money from the government What you mean one foot? He got a club foot

He fell off a motorcycle When he was drunk He fucked his foot up Recently? Yeah which is kind of crazy. Could you imagine how easy our lives would be if the government just gave us a big, juicy check every month?

And we just got to live off that because we were just born a little, you know. See, with him, he called me about the Taco Lady. Smacked it. Yeah, he called me by her, had me call in. We discussed it, and then I guess she got mad at him. He started breaking it down and apologizing to her as if, man, we don't stand with whack on it.

I think what you were saying when you had me call in. So when I saw that it was weird, when I talked to him, he tells me, she knows his auntie and all this, and they got on him. And I'm like, your auntie got on you. What are you talking about? But I'm looking at the whole situation over there. And no jumper has, it hasn't done anything but rebuild itself. Right?

Which I feel like they're kind of in denial about the fact that we're obviously doing a lot better than they are. Oh, this is the team is strong. Yeah, right now, I think honestly, it's probably the high point. The high point for the brand in its history to me is right now in terms of content. The team is strong. And I really don't know. 80s are always be all right. He could do his on his own, but the rest of them, I don't think they have yet to establish themselves.

Yeah, it feels like they left November to start this channel. And the channel seems like an afterthought. Like, they don't really put that much effort or time into it. They're all focused on their own things. And, I mean, the weird part about, all right, so they did the stream last night where they were kind of reacting to act and T.R.R. And T.R.O.S. trying to act. Like, he ain't shit, even though we all know that until about 24 hours ago,

T.R.L. was shamelessly on academics as dick. Straight up. Pro-act. I honestly think when I brought T-Rell around academics, the first time I did. He started jumping up and down. I think that changed his life. Like, right there, the level of awe that he had, because people forget. about T. Row that he always makes it out like he was this big successful businessman when he came to No Jumper. There's a vlog where he says, I was just so happy to even be at No Jumper. I would have took a job

washing the toilets. That's what he says. Who? T. Row. That's what he says in this old vlog that he would have took a job washing the toilets here. It even says in the title of the vlog, I went to No Jumper, life goal accomplished or some shit like that. Like, you know, he didn't have shit going on, basically was what I'm saying when he came to no number what was his first conversation with you when he gave he was actually on the podcast a bunch of times before i even really had a conversation with him because he was just sort of like one 80s buddies or whatever and then i started to notice the fact that he was resonating with the audience and so i start working and try to build him up i'm doing podcasts with him we're doing interviews together i'm trying to get him on other podcasts and stuff

like that like and then you know he chose to leave and i'm going to be honest it's all been pretty much downhill since then. And you want to know why I think it's really fucked up is because so the girl that he's engaged to, Heather, she had this clothing line called Sorella, right? Yeah, yeah. They had a store on Melrose, which was the old last king's store.

When Tiger left T-Rel, T-Rell basically switched it over to his girl's name and then they had the girls store. Yeah. I saw a post about this on the Reddit, but they haven't updated their Instagram in like six months. Everything on the website is 80% off. Like her, like I think she was paying his way through life ever since he filed bankruptcy. And now I think she's broke.

And so now there are two brokies together. And so I think that's why like he's acting like he's kind of enjoying this whole academics thing. But I think he's really like fucked up. Like this is he knows that like everything is kind of crumbling around him. And when you watch him on the podcast, you can kind of see it in his body language that he knows that the jig is up. So you don't think they, you money over there? I think when you look at the way they were doing at no jumper

while also being able to do their own thing, that was clearly a better position for them to have been in. And I think if there wasn't so much pride and ego in it, they probably would have already came back. I mean, honestly, like, I think if I hadn't dissed them, they probably already would have came back. Because you've seen Vlad and Lord Jamar,

they're back together after five years apart. I was looking at that, and I'm thinking, like, I wonder how long it's going to take before that happens. Do you think it's even room for him over here? Do they even fit? I just don't think that, I think if you put someone like T. Rel next to a U or a Munchy or even a lush or, you know, whoever, I just don't think

anyone would be all that impressed. I think everybody would be looking at him as a dumb guy in the room, which is like, smack was supposed to be the dumb guy to T. Yeah. Like the smart guy. I feel like T. T.rell would seem like the inbred step cousin here. Like, I feel like he just.

I don't think he like stands out to their fan base even. Like I was reading the comments on that episode that they did last night. Bro, they have like a hate fan base now. Like the fan base doesn't really fuck with them anymore, which is crazy because when they're at no jumper, they were like beloved. And that apparently seems to have really dissipated. Yeah, well, in the day.

But I don't really pay attention to it. I mean, you know, we gave it a little attention to a little time. It's really how they want to play. Because think about it. If you're AC, look it. All ACS got to do. Act does nine-hour streams. Like, it's no big deal.

There's a lot that I didn't utilize, you know? You as an exposure, you know, you end up with a lot of source material. And you don't end up putting it all out because sometimes it feels like I'd rather wait and let this cook. If ACC wants to do eight hours on T-REL, you got the guy. I could send him a handful of. documents and a handful of different notes look into this, do research on this, he could send T-Ril's entire life into a tailspin. I don't think that T-Rill wants to smoke.

T-Rail, we need a cash app. The only reason that I didn't do a lot of this stuff that I could have done was just because I felt like it looked too petty at a certain point. No, no, we need a cash app. People don't necessarily really want to see me go this hard. Listen, on other hand, there's a lot to work with. On the other hand, 600 calls me last night. I see he's upset about the way people are characterizing his fight.

I told you, we already talked about the fight. That was the AI 600. Oh, well, he didn't say that. He said he just got knocked out. No, no, no, no, that wasn't. Somebody might have paid him to say that. Somebody might have paid him to say that. Somebody might have paid him to say that.

Yeah. Somebody might have paid him to say that. Somebody might have paid him to say that. Broken AI. Yo. The AI is all fucked up. The whack. 600 calls me last night.

Why do you got ego socks? He said, How did your shooter got Ego socks? Let go on my Ego. I bet you don't even got to show my camera. I bet I can find them on Ego. Because there's no way that there's that many people making ego socks. Yeah, look at this.

Show the screen. Yo. Your shooter rocking ego socks is crazy. Sorry, I didn't mean. Yeah, listen. 600 calls me and says, hey, I want to come on clubhouse. I said, cool. I guess I got a guess.

So I look up and it's, um, All star is it All Star Luce Cannon? Ah. So I'm hearing him, I'm like, I'm like, bro, why you got loose cannon on my floor? What the fuck you're doing? It's the brother.

The brother. And the brother is saying loose into feds at him while he was in the county. That's what he said. So are we bringing him on right now or what? Oh, yeah, yeah, I got him up here. Oh, yeah, let's get me. Where's our guy?

You're not here today? Can we set him up? Michael? We can set it up real quick. I only take a second. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I'm super excited to talk to this dude, and I really feel like this might be a revelatory conversation

because this guy holds the keys to the truth. Yeah, he knows what's going on. That's my first time ever meeting the dude. Yeah. My first time seeing Luce Cannon was here at no jumper. My first time seeing his brother is here in no jumper. Yeah, you know, this is my thing is like there's a lot of times where there's like understandable

misunderstandings. Like for instance, him saying that he got stabbed 10 times and then it turning out like, oh, he got sliced, which is apparently different and that was taken out of context, whatever. There ain't no context.

Nothing never happened. That could happen, like, you know, but when it always happens. Nothing never happened. When it always happens at a certain point, you got to be like, okay, when there's smoke, there's fire, this guy's a bullshit. The thrill is gone.

The thrill is gone. away. When when Luce Cannon beats his case and he gets out, I would love to sit down and have a conversation with him. I'm going to be honest. If Losecannon beats his case, his brother's in trouble. Yeah. If he beats his case, you're in trouble. Yeah. Because he already so he tells us

he's in the county jail. He just do like recently. 12 months there and he had to go do another two, three months in the state. And he just came on. I know you've been on. Oh, shit. You said you start Krimack in the county jail? No, Kremack was in Walsco. He's two. Oh.

He arrived like three weeks before I got out. Oh, okay. So he'd get out in December. December. Whoa. Spoiler. There we go. That's actually excited to hear that.

Wait, oh, yeah. I want to ask a big picture question. Is there a moment in your life that stands out when you realized that your brother had real issues with lying. Just in a general sense, like even at a really young age. You've been a little kid. He'd been doing it. A lot of people would

put us together. So he would sit up there and lie. You know, they'd come and ask me about the situation. I don't want to make it seem like, you know, he's such a liar. So it's like, it put me in a lot of twists too. I mean, just with general in the business

sense or with anything he'd do, he'd do a lot of crazy shit. Right. I mean, it's normal to be a little kid who lies, you know, like my four-year-old lies all the time and nobody takes it to. Yeah, you'll say, she told one of the kids at the school that I moved out and got a new house. Why? Wait, whoa, that's serious. She just made it up. She just told one of the kids at school and the kid's mom fucking texted Lena and said, is it true that Adam moved out? You don't think Lenna's telling her that you're going to move out after living a new house? Well, that might be the conspiracy right there. That's not bad. But I'm saying, like, little kids lie, but then it feels like certain people, like kind of don't grow out. of it.

Yeah. He's one of them. So you're sitting in LA County jail on this go round. Now, I'll talk to you about four, five months ago or something like that. He calls me, he says, hey, record his call with my brother. He has something he wants to tell us. So as I'm hearing him talk to you, he's trying to, he's trying to guide you and saying some things to try to clear some things up.

But you wasn't going for it. Not at all. But then he tells me, send me the conversation because he wanted to do some edits, right? He wanted to edit it. Right? So, but you wasn't going for what he wanted you to say. You stood on it. You was like, that's what it is.

But now you're telling me, you're sitting in the county jail and you get some visitors. Tell us about these visitors. I'm sitting in Wosco. Oh, you're in Wosco? So I'm waiting to be released. And then, you know, they was like, I was like, I've been up in here for 13 months to release me. Like, what's going on?

It was like, it's an issue. I'm like, what type of issue? So, like, two hours go by, boom. I go to the, they said, coming to the room, fares there. I'm like, what the fuck? What you're here for? They said that, you know, people was blaming me for being an accountant for 60s, setting up businesses.

I did a lot of robberies, you know, give me a statement, statement about it. I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about. But they was telling him, loose cannon, basically said, threw off all that accusations that's on him. He threw it off on me. He told him his identical twin brother

that did it. And I'm like, what? I'm like, I've been in jail for a whole year. I mean, there's certain things that he recently did. He blamed me for the shit. It's stupid. Huh?

Yeah, it's reasoning shit that he did. It's stupid So was he trying to put The robbery in the RICO With the dude monster on you? Most likely I don't know It's so many different things

So many robberies So you're talking about superseding So they haven't mentioned I don't know They haven't put it in yet Because they still investigating By them investigated They want to doth A T's and

You know I mean Cross T's and Doth AX So they They basically trying to see What parts do I have to do with it You know I help like you know

do grants and all the other stuff where some of the homies or whatever you know who I'm talking about but some of the homies they mention that part too they like he's the one that uh you know help do this and I'm like the fuck y'all who mentioned that another dude mentioned the other one yeah yeah the other one mentioned that so it's like you know what he's talking about right the guy that brick don't like you to talk about mentioned that he was the one wrote up his grants yeah and I'm like, nigga, I help, you know, the hummies create businesses and do all the other shit. So at the end of the day, don't put me in,

if the, I don't have shit to do with that. So the feds, if y'all got into it with the feds, with the, with y'all, y'all, non-profits, and all that shit. Don't mention me. I just help, you know, help you out with the shit, gave you guys advice, you know, set up your, your EIN, Secretary of States, all that.

I did all that other shit. But other than that, don't put me in to the shit where the feds is asking me questions, like, I'm a part of that shit. They're mentioning your name. Yeah, and they try and throw shit off on putting on me. I'm like, nigga, I'm not going for none of that bullshit. It's particularly egregious to lie by your age when you have a twin. He said it was 10 years apart with the same birthday. Like, I could lie by my age, and I would probably be able to, like, get away with it pretty good.

But when you have a twin, you don't remember what he told you when you asked Luz Cannon. why do you speak the way you speak remember what he told you? Yeah, he said he got shot in the head, you remember that? Did he say that? He told you that. He told you that. And you're saying that's not true. No. No, the wife, Gigi said he shot itself

once in the foot and something. He had a toe or something. Remember he told me he told me he'd been shot 10 times? Right. Did you, were you around when he got put on the hood? Yeah, we've been my dad's from the hood. My dad is Nettie from 60 Crip. Like, we grew up in the hood.

So you can confirm that he actually got put on? Because that was something that Brick maybe kind of used against him a bunch was to say that he didn't get put on. And he never, I don't think he ever identified the people who put him on, which apparently is controversial. Yeah, Brick kept asking him, right? Who put him all?

Yeah, the thing is, you don't want to mention names, especially in the podcast about who puts you on. Okay, now, you guys, you guys grew up. Where? Was it between, is it in Fontana? No, no, see, okay, the thing is we lived in Fontana in our senior year Because at the end of the day, we got kicked out of L.A. County. We got to kicked out of L.A. county for, you know, fights

and doing all type of other shit that we wasn't supposed to be doing. So at the end of the day, we went to, you know, we went to Fontana. You know, we graduated. We went to college. I mean, I don't understand, like, the background that he got. That's how I learned a lot. That's how I started, you know, helping the niggins. and the homies in the hood,

doing businesses and all that stuff. I went to college. We, you know, I taught them what I learned. So at the end of the day, you know, I don't understand how he, he has a lot to give, but he would do bogus and dumb shit with his shit. So I don't know.

See, this is one thing I do know. And I'm wondering, because you got this last visit and other people outside of Luce mentioned your name and certain things, are you going to let that paper go you've been holding on for so long? I told you all about how to get that paperwork.

I told you in the county. Go grab it. It's only what? It's 20 minutes from here. Go grab it. But you got it already. Yeah, I got the paperwork. But y'all, y'all can go grab the paperwork too.

I mean, at the end of the day, it's like I'm the type of person. I know what it is. I stay away from the situation. When I learned the situation, what happened and how many, the homies was telling, I stayed out. I only kicking with a certain... And there was some real prominent names in there. Yeah, hell yeah.

Some of the same names is locked up on the RICO. So you're saying that if some enterprising young YouTuber really wanted to make a name for themselves, they would just have to go where and ask for what? They have to, all they have to do is just go to the Fed building in Los Angeles. Look at Jermaine Williams, a forfeiture case, and everything that's on there. And they'll see all the names that was on there.

That's telling and everything. And there's some very prominent names out there. Well, you're the exposure. Why don't you do it? Well, he just said it last night. I'm pretty sure they own it. He told me, but I didn't have my team on it. He told me like a while ago.

But at this point in time, you got loose saying he's lying, but now I'm understanding because from what we're learning, a lot of people that's acting like they against each other are really in cahoots even right now. They are. Really? Yes. The niggas that's in jail

and that's saying that they're going at it, they're fighting, they're not in the same dorms. They all are in the same fucking dorms. They all coming over a situation to point the finger at me. That's the reason why I'm here now because the feds told me. So everything that I'm saying is true.

So all the fake staff, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, loose cannon up with the same shit. They all has little, bitty pieces that the feds was telling me, so. But when you say they all, who are you talking about, loose cannon? The ones that's in the, the loose cannon, brick baby, you, brick baby. That they're all together. He's saying they all in cohoots.

He said, ain't no problems with you. Which I'm gonna be real. We got to keep it. real because when when loose got there and claimed they were sell these brick roll with it when loose got there and claimed he had to check big you for trying to make brick baby signs of paperwork he rolled with it so they was rolling with it until that now i think they may be separated now okay i think i think luce is somewhere else no they're not separated bro that's all yeah because luce is wherever little dirk is at he on the night floor yeah but they all still could walk around

all still be together and all the other shit. The Fed just told me like a week ago that they all still together. How could he possibly put these crimes on you? But there ain't no fingerprints. Okay, you got to understand that. It's identical. Are you identical? So, yeah, so you got to understand.

If there's no fingerprints and they set up there and say, show the picture of me, you know, that's reasonable doubt to sit there and say that, oh, that might not be him. That might be the other ones. So they show the victims a picture of him, and they pick him out. Yeah. And they know it's him and not Germain. You're Jermaine, right? Yeah.

Right? He can use that in the defense, but he's saying you're sending the feds. Why are you even putting my name in that? Yeah. Like, I'm your twin brother, bro. So at the end of the day, it's like you want to protect me. If you're going to use that in your defense, like doing trial, that's cool. but don't

expose your hand right then and there and say that and then have them coming after me and then y'all niggas sitting up there saying like

oh he helped me do this he helped me do this I did stuff like that they implement him and other stuff even outside of rob I mean it's kind of like how people

put bodies on dead people or like they put crimes on dead people I know but you just put it on your twin they try to dead in your ass yeah you can't prove it with me look at this guy

it looks just like me I mean you don't look that much like him that much like him over the man but if you show a picture yeah you know and the victim you know seen it even just with you know with the

see the only thing that what fucked him up is him going on different podcasts and seeing the people they rock and all the other shit yeah he copped to it already so he copped to all that but the other shit you know I don't know if the

the rappers that you know he whatever he was lying about to meet me man You don't believe the Meek Mill one now? No, I never believe the Meek Mill thing. Okay. Ever. First of all, I know Meek's team.

Second of all, the big you Meek thing wasn't going to work because they are Muslims. Meek's team is Muslims. That's not going to, it ain't going to go that far like that. And to say that Meek saw him walk up and just took $300,000 a jury off his neck and sit here. Wait, okay, I have a question. How close were you to lose cannon in 2019? I mean, we off and on, you know, because of the shit he do. Like the city, do, I don't agree with a lot.

Do you remember talking to him about Nipsey around the time that Nipsey died? Yeah. Did he mention anything about anything sketchy at all? You talking about that phone call? That he allegedly got from Big U, yeah. It feels like he would have mentioned that to you at that time, right? Oh, good. On that situation is there was a phone call.

But the thing about the phone call was that it was after the situation had happened. But, you know, situations, from that situation, you know, a lot of people knew beforehand what was going to happen. Really? Yeah. So, and 60 business. So at the end of the day, like I said, that's how I operate. That's how a lot of people operate. You don't have, you don't show paperwork.

If you don't show paperwork, you can't call a person a snitch. But you believe that big you knew it was going to happen before it happened? I'm not going to put no accusations on nobody because I don't, I don't sit there. Well, what he says, you got to understand this. If you call somebody a snitch and you don't have the paperwork. They got the right. They got the right. So you got to call, call a couple of people to see.

you get that green light because at the end of day if you don't have that paperwork. That's the reason why like I say. See when I said it ain't got mad at me. I said this is gang bang. You call a dude the snitch and you ain't got to work because if a dude would have let that ride, I don't think he'll last a week

it gets around. It is a weird situation though because it's like he either asks if this happened as it supposedly did. He either asked for permission to kill him and then go do the rest of your life in jail or prison or you don't ask and then you also probably get caught and have to the rest of your life in prison then also the hood is mad at you so it's like how how does having to

ask really stop you that much you're making such a crash out decision that you know your life is never going to be the same after this i don't know it's just like it's easy for us to imagine that he was so offended in that moment that he went and got a gun and shot him it's harder for me to imagine and then he was that angry about it, approached him again, got called the cinch again, and then decided, like, already having asked for permission? I don't know. It's just, that's wild.

That situation was going on for, like, a couple of weeks. Really? It wasn't, it wasn't just like it happened right then and there. They said that already had a squabble prior to that. See, when that happened, when he went there, he was confronting him again about the situation. To see if it was the same energy? Same energy.

and then Nip blew up, you know, said what he said, and then things happened, you know. So at the end of the day, you got to went there to try to resolve the situation, but when the energy was still the same as a week or two ago, he was just like, all right. But you don't believe that Big U called Luz Cannon beforehand. I mean, I know who called who, you know,

but at the end of day, they in jail. I'm not trying to add no more pressure on, none of the homies, nobody. But at the end of the day, some of the shit my brother say is true, but then he throw a lot of shit that's not true. So I can say that. He mixed shit with sugar.

Yeah. He like reveals hidden truths, but then he also sprinkles in. He just, he adds on to a lot of shit. You know, he's animated. But a lot of shit he say, you know, he shouldn't have been saying. But since it's already out there, it's like,

So, Gigi, she's been an advocate. She's been speaking for the last couple months. She has always spoke highly at you. And she said, well, he's going to tell you the truth. Is that to date legally his wife? Yeah, that's his wife. So the marriage and all that they did on the show was bootleg, fake. I don't know.

I mean, at the end of the day... You can't marry two people at the same time. I think he didn't get legally divorced. Yeah. But he then ended up in a relationship with Cherise. Yeah, he's... Yeah, but no, he was... It's illegal.

No, but he's claiming he's not married to Gigi. Oh, he says that? But Gigi sent a marriage certificate. Yeah, they married. Like, at the end of the day, you get married how many people you want. I mean, it's illegal. But you could do it. But, yeah, Gigi is his wife.

You know, I'm not going to sugarcoat nothing. Like, it is what it is. I mean, that's how I look at it. Yeah, she always said cool things about you. Yeah, Gigi cool. I was just on the phone with Gigi just now before I walked in. She has a whole lot of information over there. Yeah.

Why he would want to make her his enemy. I don't know. That shit is crazy. That goes to say what you say. He's smart, but he makes stupid decisions. He's impulsive, very impulsive. So the shit, like, if you guys are talking to him and he sees y'all feeding into it, then he's going to add more on top of more, on top of more, on top of more,

just to get everything big, you know, he wants to do it big. You know, he's a, like I said, he's a smart individual. He went to school, all that. It's just that he don't be thinking sometimes. Did you know that he had a handler? A handler. Yeah, somebody he was reporting to. Did you know that?

Yeah, I don't know. Do you think he's an FBI informant? Oh, he definitely got a handler. I don't think he's a handler. Oh, that's a fact. No, I don't think he's like a FBI. My man just got pulled in last week who is victim, not victim. He's the number two.

He's the witness or victim in there. And you know him, the producer. And they pulled him in last week. He called him. Anytime they call him, or he got to go in. He calls and lets me know. You're talking about Molly Ma? And he let me know.

Oh, you're talking about Molly Ma? He let me know straight up. A lot of it, they were questioning it was about things he didn't say it. And they told him straight up. They're like, dude's been reporting us weekly, but he got snatched. Listen, remember when you, you wasn't going yet? Remember 600 called you because we was trying to find him in the system? And you told us,

nah, that's the wrong ID. You knew his ID number by heart. Yeah. You said that's the wrong ID number. That's his wrong spelling of his name, all that, because Cherise sends us his ID.

So we, like, we send it to him. They ain't knowing that him of 600 is good. He tells us, bro, that's his name ain't spelled right. That's the wrong ID number, wrong date of birth. So this is fake.

This is his real stuff. Right? So when we're running it, we can't find him. But come to find out when he called, me on the three-way with Monster, he got snatched. Monster knew he got snatched, picked up, and they let him go.

And from that point on, from what they tell my guy last week, he was out here trying to gather things to try to work off whatever it went on, 2021, 2022. And I can tell you... Which is dangerous because he going to tell people he know or he can find out. Yeah, but, you know, a lot of... people that's in that situation too, you know, uh,

has the same situation with Molly Mall. Me and Molly Moore had the same exact situation that happened to us. And there was, even with TI had the same exact situation that happened to us. And it was only one person involved in that situation that we all knew. That had the fed sick on us. Period. So I don't know if it was,

I know for a fact it wasn't my brother because he was sicked on two by the feds by that same individual. Now stop right there. That's what he's saying. Yeah. And you hear what I'm saying? He got snatched up.

And when they snatched him, for whatever reason why they snatched him, at that point in time, he went bad. So who you talking, the guy you're talking about? And we're going to say it for the record, Molly bald ain't did nothing wrong. No. Dude wasn't even home.

Dude popped up at his house. his security dealt with it His security let him know what it was You took on in Vegas Yeah, yeah So Marley A did nothing wrong And I'm gonna be real If you're going into your parole office

To your parole building And then people's in there saying Listen, we talked to your security guard And we got this, this, this Did your security guard let you know That this dude poured up The security guard, two other people They already told him

The dude poured up They waited, they left they didn't stay that. Said Peter at a certain time. Yeah, he fresh out. Yeah. So is Marley Marr supposed to say, no,

I don't know what you're talking about? And you didn't volunteer to go to this man house against that he ain't even dealing what you're talking to you. Molly said, bro, it was I supposed to go back to the fence for lines of these people because you chose to cut up my house

and have a confrontation with my security and do whatever you did while I'm going because Molly never saw him. Right? So he ain't did nothing wrong. but he did tell me that they informed him that dude had been reporting to

some black, a black dead dude after he got, when he got hot, like you said, when the other dude got him twisted, with the other dude from 190, that dude, right? Which I got that content. I just ain't let it go. I got it, right? You got the work.

Yeah. That's what he was out here preparing itself to try to find a way out of his situation. He just kept doing so much to where he became dangerous out here for them. You know what I'm saying? A lot of them do. They think they untouchable when they start working with those people. They think they're untouchable,

but the people use them until they don't want to use them no more, and that's when they go get them. So that's how it works. So they will make deals with you for the things that you did in the past. There you go. The things that you do right now because you think that you're untouchable, that's when they come and get you.

Okay, you're doing this. You're doing the most. Now we're going to put you up under the jail. Anyway, we don't need you no more. Now we can work with. Now the people that you told on, we use them to get more people. Then when they're done with them,

they're going to rest them. And it's just a never end the cycle. That's just how the feds work. Wow. It's a whole lot going on. He had been last minute. He wanted to clear his name because he don't know what else is being said. All he knows is the feds pulled up on him in the joint a couple weeks ago,

whatever it was, and let him know straight up that your brother is saying you're the one that who in fact did all these things. It's just not my brother. It's just not him. So there's a few other people in there. A few other people that's up in there. Like I said, I help write grants. I help, you know, do that.

It's only one dude that at Grants written. I mean, at the end of the day, like I said, I like to show paperwork. I told y'all were to go get to the paperwork. Yeah, we definitely are going to go look into that. Y'all should have been had that. We're going to go look into it. Well, we've been reading the fresh work. You know, but listen, big, I appreciate you stopping by.

I definitely got your, it's crazy because it's like deja vu. He has. reality show shot. A few of them got more artists in. What's the name of the reality shows? Baddies of the Wild Wild West is one. That's for the females. And then I got hip-hop all-stars.

I have, we're going to start shooting in series two in August. So hip-hop all-stars and trailer, you sent me as True Car, D.W. Flame. Little Vader. Little Vader. I got O-G-Z. It has A-L-L-L-L-L-E.

them as radio base who else it has Blueface did a couple of things for us in that walker flaka fat boy S.E

and you got all the paperwork to these things yeah remember I sent you the contract like a year and a half ago because you was trekked off a true car being in it and then I was like look bro I've seen you 10% I don't remember it I don't even remember

But whatever it is, this is perfect timing because I'm in that mode. He doesn't even know that I got to have a conversation with him later. But I'm in that mode. I've been structuring this like the last couple months. So the time is better now anyway. You're taking over the Dosh Network? No.

Oh. No, we got something better that's part of our circle. Oh, okay. That you're going to be real comfortable with. So time is even better. I know I've got like three trailers. And I'll send them to R&B, so I'm going to be getting with you to make sure you got

all the documents. And, uh, this is, this, so who got into doing the, did he take that idea from you or did you take that idea from Luz Canyon? No,

it was, it was like we've been in the industry for so long. We met like content. I mean, the, uh, different people, contacts and all that stuff.

So, you know, as far as doing it, because he has, um, yours is shot a little better. Most. his was,

your his was kind of like iPhoneish a little bit. Yeah. My shit is professional. We have professional shit, period. So at the end of the day, everything, like all my episodes is like thought of, I mean, thought out all that. We have commentations, we have all that.

We show a lot of positivity when it comes down to our blacks. Like, we all can get along. The women on there, it's a couple of fights on there, but they was all cool. You know, everything was set up perfect. No, we're going to do it. I'm going to look at it. I said it's perfect timing.

The team I have now is real close in the team, it's really our table out of them. I don't think you realize, you know, you kind of know how I work is that I've been kind of like really setting our table to not only do what we are all individually doing, but to be able to utilize one another's resources for other things we may want to independently do.

So me and act, we got something set up that I know you're going to like, and then outside of that when it's time for us to go you know we can hit that button that button is crazy when it comes in our marketing promote but I appreciate you for showing up bro final question will you ever be cool with your brother again you know that's like I said that's my

twin brother you know I know I've been you know we've been in we was raised in a womb so at the end of day it's like I'm always love him you know I just don't like the shit that he do you know just putting me in a twist like like I said I'm raise my kids. All my kids,

like my grown kids, they all have D1 scholarship. They all go to colleges, top colleges in there. So why I fuck up my program, you know, by saying this shit because y'all got caught up.

Y'all, y'all was sloppy with it. Y'all on the internet saying the gang is shit and they looked into the shit and they got y'all on that shit. So at the end of day, leave me out of it,

you know, I sit up there. I'd be, you know, being a hood and all that other shit. I'd be cool. You know, I teach people like, niggas don't sell no weed don't sell this

nigger let's open up a trucking company open up you know different companies what do you like to do I sit down right business plans tell them how to how to do it how to operate that shit and go from there I like to build my people up I don't like to tear him down

and that's the difference between me and my brother my brother just don't care about who he tears down long as he make it to the top you know so he you know that's how he functioned But with me, we're going to eat. We're going to eat.

We're going to eat together. You know, I'm going to help you out, help you guys. I'll work with nonprofits. You know, I got, I'm working with this nonprofit by Diane Rogers. She's helping, you know, women that, educating the women to get better jobs and all that stuff in the community and all that stuff. So we've been doing that since I've just been out. So it's a lot of things that I do. I like to educate.

help my people. You know, I'm not just the type of person just to tear people down and shit like that. I like to make sure everybody. Y'all did come up. Y'all was in the same womb. You show you, did none of him rub off on you? I mean, it got to be something. What similar ways do you guys have on that bullshit side? It got to be something. You ain't just all to the good. No, no. Important question, is it gay to be in the same womb as another man? What the hell is you talking about? I don't have. Just saying. some shit. Just fucking around.

Yeah. Yo, Hey, yo, you know that's... I think you need to go get some therapy, man. Also, you're underage. Buy a lot. You're not even born yet. You don't even have an age.

You haven't even started ticking down the days. But the thing is that, like I said... Because he tells me y'all that had a bunch of fights, bunch of crazy stuff in a bit. But he blames it on you. If we fact-checked all those stories, I bet we were fun. some incredible discrepancy.

Now, your guy was on there with Gigi. I forget his name. The one loose hold on, they went to jail together. You're talking about Chosen. Chosen. I mean, at the end of the day, like I said, I didn't see no black and white in that situation,

but I heard about that shit. I think he said something about you, too. Chosen said he starts telling the people it was you. Yeah, I mean, at the end of day, I think that's his defense. Like, you have a twin brother. You can sit up there and try to, you know, persuade a judge. I mean, I think it worked.

That time, when he, when he blamed me, they couldn't find him, you know, guilty. Because they didn't, they didn't really know, even though he was caught at the scene or, I don't know, caught down the street or whatever it was, he got out of that situation. So I don't know if he feels like he could do it again. I don't know what evidence they do have on them but the thing is with Gigi Gigi has a lot of shit A lot of shit on him

She got a lot of shit documented on that phone He need to make videos Crazy stuff Like I don't know why he's playing with her At I don't know Listen bro When he got a phone he got a phone her account So everything he was doing

Was going to her eye cloud and this dude likes to record everything he does, which we know, right? It's a good way to end up in the feds, honestly. Yeah. That's a beautiful way. I mean, you know, if you really want to be like a career criminal, you should probably try to document as little as possible. So would you ever, would you ever trust your brother?

No, I don't. Yeah, I can't trust. I don't trust my brother. I just love my brother because as a twin, we have a twin. we have a special bond, even though I know that he do a lot of crazy and dumb shit. Like with me,

I minimize the shit he do. I tell him like, no, that's not a good idea. That's not, don't do that shit. A lot of the shit that he has been doing by itself by me not being in the picture, it's the reason why the feds got him, period.

Because at the end of the day, I always tell him to make the best decisions that you can. Don't, don't be. up on the bullshit and especially not recorded I'm not recorded nothing, period yeah, he recorded everything

but I tell you every day everything. Everything. He's out of his damn mind. He'll be all right. You're going to go put some money on his books? Yeah, man, I'll put money on his books. I mean, not right now now because at the end of day I'm a little irritated at the situation of the feds and all that shit coming to holler at me

and all that shit. If you really think somebody is that bad. I don't think you got to put money on their books. I'm not, listen. Would you put money on Hitler's books? He better, who? If Hitler was locked up, would you put money on his books? Absolutely.

Why? I would have a reason to. I'm saying. I wouldn't do it. If they're really that bad, you don't got to put money on books? Listen, man, I tried to literally, like, help the dude. But I guess he had a motive, but he, I don't know why he thought I was slow. You know what I mean?

Because I could see it. But it was like, I was like, let me try to help this dude. but he wanted his way he was caught up, bro. Adam, maybe you can help me with this. We just who we are. He was called or he wants to be famous. By any means necessary. Yeah.

He don't care what it takes. That's why he exposed a lot of shit. But the thing that he was exposing, see, that's where I can tell you that he says a lot of truth because the feds ain't stupid. They knew exactly what he was saying. All they just, okay, yeah, that's what the other person said. That's what the victim said.

So by the victim saying that, and then you go on a podcast and you sit there and say some dumb shit like that, it affirms everything. And that's why it's a lot. I mean, people don't think that the people that's in jail have the same cases. They have a lot of the same cases, bro. They just haven't been brought forth yet, but they have a lot of shit that they're investing.

getting. That's why the trial is. Like, honestly, if you're somebody like Luce Cannon who realistically is just going to spend their entire life manipulating people and pulling the wool over people's eyes and lying about everything, the internet is your worst enemy because the internet takes these statements that you're making and it shrines them for everybody else to see. What Luce Cannon wants to be able to do is to tell everybody a different story and to be able to just kind of come up with details on the fly so that you can manipulate people and get what he wants or whatever.

But like the internet is the enemy of that because as soon as you have a podcast out there of you saying, I'm 32, and then we find out you're 42. It's like, this is enough to let us know that you're at serial life. When the box I came up, that said 42.

I'm like, yo. Because if you're never on camera, you can say I'm 32. And then when somebody calls you off, you can say, I never said that. Oh, you must have, Ms. Herbie is at 42. I said, we got the same birthday 10 years apart

What's the He just did he didn't want to be What is that's what I used to always tell him like What is the purpose of saying if you if you on? It don't matter out what age you on like whenever you find your niche It don't matter if you 32 22 42 52 52 52 it doesn't matter As long as you get on you're gonna be on so you know you I just didn't Understand why he would want to say

you know he was 10 years younger than and then everybody that we be around we all went to school so they like that's the other biggest risk is that somebody's gonna have gone to school with you like everybody in the like nigga how is your twin brother 10 years younger than you i'm like and we all went to school together wait but did he ever admit to lying as much as he does to you did you ever have a moment where he was like this is why i lie or did he always just try to keep it. No, he ain't going to tell me that's the reason why I lie. I know when he's lying.

Yeah. Like, they use the call and 600 and they'll call and ask me a question. Like, bro, do that make sense to y'all? In my whole time doing podcasts, I don't think I can think of anybody that I've had on a bunch of times who like stands out to me as that much of a liar because it's just so hard to be a public presence if you're lying about everything. And it's one thing if you're like Jeffrey Epstein and you're hiding this disgusting fetish of yours Because obviously like sex is everybody kind of hides away their sex life for the most purpose of you and I in a way But the fact that he like was doing all this out in public and lying about like every little detail is Hold on bro.

You don't know what you mean about you and I Well we talk about sex on air a lot You're always talking about banging your wife yeah my girl yeah that's because you know you be on You know, I ain't got nothing to do with the chickens and the ducks and all that other shit you went to. Yeah, no, but the thing is that, like, you guys are, I mean, he's, he, he lies a lot. But there's a lot of things that he says that has the truth. That's the, like I said, that's the, like I said. Tainted with a lie.

Yeah, that's the reason why he's in so much trouble now because he was telling the truth with certain subjects and telling lies on different subjects. Yeah. So, I mean, it painted him to be a different type of person. But at the end of that, I've been dealing with it for so long. I've been dealing with it for 42 years. So at the end of the day, I knew the bullshit. I'll feel it. That's crazy.

All right, Waxter, I'm going to go put my freaking kid to bed before I go to Texas. Texas? Texas. I did I'm from Texas. You're going, what time you got a red eye? Yeah. Why are you leaving a night night early in the morning? it's only three-hour flight.

You lose two hours. I don't know. I'm asleep then anyway. You could have called a six. Look, I get on the flight at midnight. I sleep for three hours. I get there. Five.

Check into the Airbnb. Even Texas? I thought it was only three. Two hours. Oh, yeah. Okay. And then I'm checking into the Airbnb. Probably go to sleep for a little longer.

And then boom. Why do you stay in Airbnb's? Normally I stay in a hotel, but this time we went Airbnb. Hey, you're tripping. Yeah? I don't fuck with you a Airbnb. You're a fucking blood. He's got hidden cameras.

You're a blood. Motherfuckers got access to the, yeah. All right, okay. Look, who you are on the level you on, the status you are, all it takes is for the wrong motherfucker across the street to see you in Airbnb and get to take some stupid shit. I think a lot less people want to kill me than you. Oh, and about, no, they can come rob your ass. They think you got something.

I know you keep $60 on you. I know that. Not even. That's what I'm saying. I'm the same way. Come wrong. I'm always paper broke. You're going to get a couple of 90s.

You get some cards, some credit cards. You get some awful lot of cards. Yeah, I don't run around. I wear a basic roly. That's it. I'm not in the jury. I'm not in the United States. I'm not in a lot normal.

I almost always do hotels, but this time I was like, you know what? We got three people. I bet it'll be cheaper if we just do our B&Bs. So also it's going to be three of y'all. Yeah, but I mean, Remo and Heath. Reimon, who? Heath is skinny-ass white kid who works here. Oh, okay.

I don't know if you see him. No, I get it. I get it. I get it. Well, I got Remo. Yeah, but listen. I'm scared of shit. I got Remo.

Yeah, don't be taking advantage of Heath, bro. Why? You don't, you don't have shit about Heath, do you? You don't, don't take advantage of him, bro. You mean sexually? No, why is you, why are you thinking sexually? I'm just wondering. I'm saying, like, running him to death.

Like, why did your mind go to that? I don't know. Yeah, what's going to, bro, you need to, you might need to go get the electric shocks. You, or just try the shit, man did you see this that this exists me and lillan did vlad together um i seen you got i've noticed how much taller you are than blad i see the picture you through yeah that she was crazy because black got some height nah you was like you was way taller than i might have an inch of you i told her to wear that shirt i'm like put the boobs out that's what's gonna get people to sign up

are you is this second thing done what second thing the thing the jason love thing yeah is that done yeah That's done and that's coming out where It's already out it's on our only fence So it's out yeah so how's it doing Very well I'm told I didn't even ask for the exact number But I heard very very well Yeah so you you cool with it

Yeah And it's gonna be a part three of this is it I like I really don't like dude bro Cause of this shit That's a good question honestly Well who breaks that decision you or her Uh It's a group decision

So between you two Yeah. You're cool with it. I thought you're beefing. I didn't worry. They just did another's part two. Part two. Oh, you mean me and Jason Love?

No, we're good. We're good. Yeah. I got love for him. So how long do you wait until after these sessions? To what? To be intimate with your wife. Sometimes night of.

Sometimes. Why not? Not really too worried about it. Just cool. Take some time, heal up. I'll be here when you need me, babe. I think that's some white people shit. Yeah, I thought that too.

And so I heard about Diddy and Yee and Nip and. Oh. Yay. Nip. You're swinging, allegedly. Nip do the watch. He do the white time about the watching. But you don't watch.

Not yet. You never watched her. I want to swing with her, where we go with a couple, and then we trade off. Got you. So would you do that with Jason Love? If it was his chick and y'all swap? Oh, you don't want to see that?

Could happen. I don't know. Are you going to watch? It'll probably have to be somebody new. So have you watched the content they just put out? Not the new one. No. Do you want to watch it?

I'm not tripping about it, maybe. I was thinking I was going to want to watch it like right when it came out, but then it came out and I didn't even think about it. The last time did you watch it immediately? We watched a bit of it. it last time. I didn't say the whole thing, but I saw it.

And people are tweeting it at me and shit. It's like, I can't avoid it. Situation that, uh, China wanted me to ask you. What's that? Tyler,

she's the one in the video. Yeah, she's the one in the video. Yeah. You know, she felt like, uh, you and,

oh boy. Uh-huh. You know, uh, she talks to him. Uh-huh. She, you,

she talks about the way you and him went about the situation. situation. Well, how do we go about it? Okay, the situation I hear. Because you know, I never exposed it. No, you haven't exposed the video, but... No, no, I never exposed it, period.

Hison Campbell did. He recorded it, our conversation. So once the nigga, if I record your conversation, that once a nigga asked me... The nigga from New York. AP, no, from Atlanta. No, he ain't exposed it. No, but he got the video.

It's his video. video, Nip gave him ownership of it on the video, literally. Yeah, I've seen, I got the video. It's 15 of them. China is my blood cousin, so, but. You know he gave him consent and ownership on the video. You got that one? If he have the consent, he would try to put that video out.

He don't want to do that. Bro, the only reason why they ain't came out, because I didn't stop him from putting the out. He, listen, in the video, you got Nip telling him. him record this. Send me that. Send it to me. Make sure you keep it locked in.

He's giving him verbal consent. Now, to all y'all be thinking I'm out there bullshit in line. Am I bullshit in line? No, you're not. But China, China didn't give consent either. Who? China. He didn't give consent in those videos.

That's the girl in the video. The girl in the video. That's his baby mama. The first one. Yeah. And see what it was. See, when Big U came to me and wanted me to get dude to put him out is because he said Laura London was acting funny with him.

And in the videos, you could tell that these things was happening while Nip and Laura was together. So he wanted to make China the first lady. He had this whole layout. He was going to do called 60 minutes. He was going to make her the first lady manager and blow her up. But I'm like, bro, I'm not, I'm not going to let you put the videos out. Extortion.

Extortion where? This is where? What are you talking about from where? From other guy and, and y'all, uh, 50, 15% 15% from what? What is that?

What's the name? I heard the story about You mean the 30%? Yeah, the 30%? Oh no, that's... 1515. And then when...

Yeah, I didn't go for it. Nip died. I didn't go for it. You're talking about his contract. Yeah, when Nip died, nigger, he came and asked you for the 15%. I mean, part of your 15%, half of your 15%.

No, no. No, no. He got a contract. Him, Steve, Lobel, and Nip. Yeah. The contract, the dumbest contract, contract ever because he don't receive royalties, only publishing. So when Nip died, maybe about 40-some days, I got the text messages.

He says, listen, let's make it look like you brought me out of the contract prior to, right? And then I need you and your legal team to go into the state for the 30%. So I said, well, you was just with Nip, niggins when he was alive. Why did you go after the 30% while he was alive? Why are you going to go after he died? You're saying it's your little brother, right? So if you didn't go after the 30% while he was alive, why go after when he's dead?

I don't want to, I got to actually dip. Get your punk ass out of here. Keep politics on this issue. We need this is good. So here's the thing. What Big You didn't understand that he knew I understood was Nip waited until. the contract the 10

years was over with before he dropped the album, right? Which, when he first came to me, he said, yo, am I, like, is my contract expired? This is expired as a now, but Victory Lapp

is still in there because you don't go out to the day the album dropped. You go out to the day the album was negotiated. Then the budget was released. So when I told him that, he's like, well, listen, when I sign it over to you, we make it look like

and did we bust it up. I'm like, I'm not fucking with it. I could have went and got it, but I'm like, I'm not fucking with it. For one, me and Nip never had no problems.

Nip problem with me was I was fucking with Big U. And when he realized that my issue with him wasn't Big U, it was that he didn't do that K Slate verse. After I had Slay

break this nigger and spin this nigga and do all that shit we did for him in New York, I said, I don't give a fuck with you and big you got going on. Slay is my plug, not Big U plug.

So when I got Slate doing all this shit for you and Slate called back say, yo, can I get that Nipsey verse for my you know, my mixtape or whatever? And it's no, because you're getting into it with Big U. What they got to do with Slate? Because now you fuck, you got

me looking crazy. That ain't 60 business. That's a paru plug. Big U know him through me, right? So once me and Nip talked at Platinum, we was good. So when draws came with that, I said, I'm not doing that. You do it.

You need the legal team. I turn you on to the legal team. I don't want to have, do you know what that nigga would have did if I would have went and did that and got that? You know how he would have fake like he didn't know what was going on? I said, I'm not doing that. I wouldn't even let do release the content at all.

It's been two, three times. What them people would call that shit on me? The black, what they, when they was trying to sell by it. some shit, dark web or some shit, I wouldn't even let him do the deal. And it ain't got nothing to do with her because I don't know her, right? It ain't got nothing to do with Nipson, but he ain't got nothing to do with Nipson because he chose to do whatever he chose to do. But I know he got kids. And I'm going to be real.

I don't think Black Sam want to see that shit. No, a lot of people don't want to see that video. That's the reason why, you know. Nick, it's 15 of them. It ain't just one. I got all, I. And it's a bunch of, you seen the text messages? I got on, I got the video.

too. Me and China. Where you get them from? China. Also, she got them. Okay. Yeah, but the thing is that, see, they did a lot of shit.

It's their sex life. So at the end of the day... On the couch shit, it's a lot of shit. Yeah, a lot of shit. Yeah, a lot of shit had been... That's how, that's where I was a little irritated at where, you... Because Big U, he had the videos too. He wanted them out, but see, he only had a partial.

Let me tell you what his what his stronghold was He got the recording When Nip is telling the police If anything happened to me Domer did it Right And he used that against Nip I don't know

I mean a lot of people I mean everybody is not innocent in that situation Yeah he used that against Nip So when he came to my house That nigger came to my house In my backyard and my game room with one of my original baby gangster childhood friends that he did time with. He did a dub with him.

So he said, man, such a guy I want to see him. I ain't seen him. And when he was asking me to do the things, he was getting irritated. He said, man, why all of a sudden you like against me and for him? I said, ain't about I'm against you. It's like, bro, none of these things you wanted to do when he was alive. If you would, listen, if you would have been going to. pursuing that 30% while he was alive and all that shit

and you just needed some help because your legal team that went bad on you I would assist you but you sat there in front of the world pro victory lap me gave him awards you weren't having these conversations with him while he was alive now that's how y'all got into it yeah I said he started getting he started getting mad that I would cooperate that's when y'all beefs are happy That's what it's cool. Yeah, that's what he...

But people needed to know the reason why you and Big U wasn't cool. I knew about the whole situation. That's how it started. Yeah, that's how he felt like you supposed to press plate. No, nigga, because listen, go find an interview or some shit with Nipsey saying something crazy about me. Yeah. Me and that nigga used to talk. He called me maybe once twice a month, whatever, whatever, whatever,

because he always accredited me for a lot of things being game did for him. than the slay shit. So we used to ennipsed one of them dudes that he didn't let everybody know who we really talk to. You know what I'm saying? You never know who we fucking with. So it's like I'm like, bro, I ain't got no problem with him. I gave him advice. I told him no

just because of the contract. The contract expired like 2018 of January. I think it started 08 of January. But Biggie was under impression because the album didn't drop until February or something.

right that he was out of contract. I said, no, that album was negotiated while he was in contract. But Big, a lot of people don't know, and I think you know this. Big U was not that smart. He was just a magnet that people would come to him and he had people to call around

to get on the, it'd be four five niggas on the phone. He ain't even talking no more to whoever is trying to get the business done. He really didn't understand the music. Bro, that nigga Con. he had zero percent royalties, all publishing. So I'm thinking if I'm Nipsey and I notice Nick all he got is 30% publishing, when I'm doing my music, my kids getting the publishing or my girl or my mom or my daddy

or even my brother. I'm telling myself, I ain't saying this to him. I said, Dick, you're going to run into a big wall because me knowing that, he probably redirected that somewhere else because he could have signed. his publishing. He could have said I'm in debt to these people and this is my publisher. Draws didn't get no

role. I said, I'm looking at this show. I said, bro, you don't got no... How you do a motherfucking deal and you don't got no royalty rate? You got to understand Black Sam is smart. Yeah, definitely. I'll give them that. So Black Sam, you know, tell, you know, Nick, this is how we're going to run

this play. So at the end of the day, I never helped him. Father helped him with it, you would have known. I got a legal team that's impeccable. Seeing and seeing they've been around, they got passed with me through a great friend as well as Joseph Isgrove. Those of y'all know Joe Isgrove, and y'all know what time it is. That was my strong point, my entertainment team, and Joe Isgro turned over his independent radio team. So I was the only one at the time that could get rotation in a full run, urban and rhythmic, without being in the building.

That's where my strength came from in this game to give me in the door, right? But Big You knew that, but I wouldn't, I wouldn't cooperate with nothing. And then he dropped a bomb on me and my homeboy and said, nips a rat. And I'm like, bro, what are you talking about?

The nigger really got a record. He got the recording, right? That said, if anything happened to me, he talked to the police. I don't know how he got. I didn't agree with. the extortion part either. Like, that's your home.

It was like $2,000. It was some, it was about all that. Yeah, right. So, but that was their thing. But I'm sitting back and I'm telling myself, now this is what I'm telling myself. But, nigga, I just watched you. I watched you get into it with him.

I told Bigg, you not to sign it. Not because Nip wasn't worthy being signing, but Nip's character said, y'all wasn't going to work out. You wanted to control Nip, tell Nip what to do. He was his own man. Yeah, he was. wasn't going for none of that.

And Nip would have never got as far as he did if he would have been allowing dude to do that because he didn't break no other artists. There you have it, right? So, you know, sitting back and I watched him get back together. I watched him. He gave me the award after Nip.

Me and Nick Canada, following year with his football team shit or whatever, right? But I'm watching how you represent what y'all supposed to be. But you sitting in my backyard saying what you saying

after this man just died. Nicky it wasn't knit past what? In the March this was top of May. Oh, I know. I put the touch messages out, the screenshots. This top of me. And I'm

telling myself now, this is this is what I'm thinking if you would do him like that, then what the fuck would you do to be. This is my mental. And I seen him start to get

irritated because he wasn't used to me telling him, no. Because the things he would come to me for, it was been to y'all, I'm in trouble with my home. Could you help me? Or you know, shit, shit going on with corrupt or how can I do this? How can I do that? And we get it done for it, right? But what I told him,

no, I can't do that. About the, um... That situation. Yeah, both of them situations back to back, because he didn't wait, they was back to back. They was like, right then. I can't do that. I can't do that.

I can't do that. I can't, I'm not funny. We ain't had no problems. So why? And you didn't do it. I didn't respect. Nica, you was just with him, eating burritos and shit on the thing.

This is by, when I seen that one clip, Justice for Nip, and they started laughing, that was real. Because I know what you said in front of me saying. You can't tell me. It's certain things that you've seen and witnessed yourself.

No human being tell you no different. Whatever the people want to run with, cool. I know what I know. I mean, I didn't agree with a lot of shit that, you know, certain of the homies, you know, did. But with Big U, he was, he did a lot of stuff for the community. With the football and all the other stuff. He should have just kept that going.

He was traveling. the tracks. Yeah, yeah. Build off of that. I mean, because I'm going to be real. This paperwork

on reading, I ain't know that big you. Mm-hmm. Your shit on reading. But talking to Eddie boy, who, no, he was back then

your daddy's era. Yeah. Talking to Eddie boy, Eddie boy knows a different big you. Yeah. Eddie boy, he's like, nah,

he said, whack, that's him. That's him. It was always an angle. It was always something. It was always a catch to whatever he was doing.

Because we, our first encounter when he came home, because Corrupting was back over there with Def Roe. He had got away from Snooney. He had worked for Snowden. He didn't. Big U. Immediately went back to jail. He fucked Michael up real bad, right? Called like a child of whatever endangerment.

Those niggas helped get him out of that. And then he made his first 80, all his first power booze was on the Daoose side. Right? He made his first 80 on the side deal with game shoe deal, right? And then everything else to build of introducing them to everybody was either me or SMAG did a lot of it. And then, you know, it just flowed from there. But, yeah, I didn't know you knew that. Our beginning of our downfall was I wouldn't do certain shit.

When it was regarding nip, I wouldn't do. I wouldn't do it, but I don't know. What do you tell China that? How do you know? Who? How do you know? I knew about the whole situation when the situation was going down. You was talking to him or he?

Come on. Got you. Oh, okay. Yeah, okay. I got you. Even with the, uh, the video, you know. And. Yeah, because, you know, I never let dudes send them to me.

I want, I don't want them. Yeah. I'm like, I'm like. Yeah. I told me to highlight you about that too. Make sure like, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. No, listen.

I've been the reason why they haven't come out. And I ain't never let him send them to me. I'm like, nah, because if some shit come out, we're going to know as you. And he ain't too much tripping. He told me, and he tried to have him, China didn't hollered a couple times. I guess she was working out of a weed shop

or some shit down in the valley or something. He went by there. Some, I think Sam had a head shop or whatever down there. But they've been in communication. But at the end of the day, you're right. Um, Nip Kucin is on there, but her is not.

But I'm gonna be real. She ain't when a female on there with her man, a baby daddy or whatever, she ain't doing nothing wrong. No, she ain't doing nothing wrong.

It's just that you can't, you can't put that out and she don't get a bag for it. That's all she care about is getting it. Oh, that's all she care about. is getting a bag. Okay, I'll let him know that.

See, I've been, when them people called about that, because I didn't know, I had never heard of no shit called the Dark Web. I'm not a, uh, I don't understand a lot of that shit. I got people around me to do that. They came with a bag. They came with a bag.

And then we had people in Dubai. He told me about the bag. But you told me about the bag. And then he was like, could you get China to, you know, sign over her. Yeah, but, but I told him, listen, but see, you see how crazy that was? I told him off the rip. I'm not letting him do it.

So I guess he was going to go get something from China and double back. Because it wasn't even about the money. Second set of people come out of the Middle East. You know, they'll buy shit for their own entertainment. It'll never go nowhere or just be for the entertainment. I'm like, nah, bro, don't do that. Let me help you do this. Dude doing well for itself right now.

Like, he only was willing to come off of it. when he was struggling, but dude doing well for itself. He's doing all right. That nigga driving around with Bentleys and shit. Got him a nice big crib up in Malibu. So, you know, he ain't even thinking about it one way or another. And it's been a couple years since he even considered it. Yeah, I mean, last time I heard about.

But they talk, though. Nick of him and China talk. China, we recently tried to, you know, reach out to make sure that that shit didn't happen. He ain't, he's not going to do it. I'm telling you we ain't going to do it. But now that you're saying, look, if something happened, just make sure she conversated and she involved, that's easy. Because if they both in the grants, are you saying China's in the grants?

I mean, China, like, I managed China. So at the end of the day, so it's always a bit. Are you saying China's in the grins? If the bag is right, China's going to be in the grins. But the bag got to be right to let those videos come out. Have you done a show with China? yet? No, she wanted to, she wanted to do a show,

she's gonna be on my show in August. Yeah, you need to do a show with her. Yeah. Because that's what big you wanted to do. Yeah. She ain't, I mean. I'm telling you, but he wanted he wanted to

want one of the videos to come out to put the light on it. Yeah. But I wouldn't, so that must be when he doubled down on her saying, would you, so he was working his end. I'd already told him no. I'm like, no, bro. I'm not fucking with that.

had nothing because I don't know China I don't know her right I know the other dude I've been knowing him forever and I know Nip so my whole disposition was like nah

yeah the the situation was that I mean I've seen other interviews where you said what happened in those videos you know

and you know I can agree with the shit that happened in the video yeah I would listen I tell people like bro you're not going to see no man-on-man shit. That ain't what you're going to see. But you're going to see some shit to where us as being who we are,

but then I'm recognizing that. Yeah, it's pretty shit. People got their ways going on. You ain't going to see no man-on-man, but you're going to see some shit. You're going to like, oh, no, nigga, what you're doing? Especially because of what Nip's persona was supposed to be. Yeah.

You give what I'm saying? At the end of day, people do different things. They do little freaky shit. So you can't tell, as long as it's not like no gay shit, like man-on-made shit. There's nothing. There's nothing with Nip penetrating him.

Him penetrating Nip. It's a few pictures. It's weird as a motherfucker. A few actions that you like, nigger, did you really just do that? Because that don't look right. Yeah. Right?

But I tell people, it ain't. it ain't it ain't nothing like that No I mean a lot of people When you did it When you said it It was a lot of gay shit

That was going on In the videos Yeah but I've told people But I'm glad You bringing this up Because They're thinking that You were smudded him

But it was No you can't But see here go the thing Right This This Let me ask you a question Nip's a very strong

Will do Yeah Right How could you Smud a motherfucker about what he chose to do. Yeah, no, I'm not saying him personally.

I'm talking about the people. If I choose to grab bullfrogs and biting to him raw. And I'm, y'all, I'm recording myself and I die. Niggas say, that nigger whack was a nasty ass. That niggas to catch bullfrogs out the mud in the creek and just straight

biting to them raw. Yeah. And it's a video of me really doing this. bro, I got this saying that said the truth can never be considered disrespect. That's not smite. You get what I'm saying? Now, if you had heard me saying,

and this is why China never said nothing because she ain't never heard me saying, oh, dude was doing this, a dude would do it like some crazy shit he wasn't doing. A lot of people thought when you said about the video and it was a lot of shit, like even, you know, the shit where I'm not going to say what happened on the video,

but he threw up neighborhood. Exactly. When he walked around, yeah. Yeah, he threw a neighborhood. So people thought that when he, they thought he was doing some gay shit when you did the interview the last. 90% of the people. Yeah, they thought you, you said, 90% of the people, if they saw that video, are going to say, you tripping. Or he freaky as hell.

Well, see, listen. Freaky as hell. Yeah. I mean, there's some. certain people's freak level is on a whole different level. So at the end of that, me and you might be like, uh, yeah, that's, uh, no,

that's, that's not cool, but you know, you get a lot of people, especially being in this industry, the white people, they do that shit all the time. I think what it is. Oh, no, yeah, we know what that is. Yeah, so it's like, I think what it is with, you know what, I'm gonna be real.

I've never heard Mip, um, promote or denounce a certain shit when it comes to things he likes to do. But I think the people, for what it is today, esteem him so high to where in the back of their heads is no way possible. Yeah, I mean, that he's, you know, involved in the, yeah, yeah, he. Yeah, I mean, like I said, it's freaky. It is certain.

But shit, that's great. So, so, um, you got to do the right. type of show with her yeah I'm gonna probably do a type of show we were thinking about finding her somebody else I think that'll work group of group of dudes you know like like what's that she called again play reflap type of shit no I think I think I got to play for that yeah that we can cross at the same time where one show comes on and that one comes on a real big name want us to do a show with him looking for love.

So we could do his. He could do his and then shoot hers. But dude's name is so fucking big. When we launch his, we let hers come on maybe like the next day. Like same week's shit. So we can do that. We got a platform, a strong platform. I'm going to be real.

Academics going to be the one running point on the pay wall. So we ain't going to go wrong. You know, we got our own internal marketing and promoting at that point in time. Because with the table, you got to remember, you got no jumper, you got Vlad, you got Bulleck Have, you got Trap Lour, you got academics, right? You got Flacco, who's a creative zone independent lane. And then I got a relationship with Joe Buttons, right? So now when you take that and then you add all the other elements, right, too. it and whatever we push out there,

imagine all our, everybody I just name, our marketing promo clips is there coming for whatever we got coming out next. So if you're going to do something, what you could do something. And then at that point in time, you know, we could do our,

maybe our first, I could do a scene with it to, you know, that's a great teaser with me. You know what I'm saying? It's to let it know it's coming. Yeah. You get what I'm saying?

So, yeah, I'm not four dollars. She cared about us making a bag, bro. Yeah, but no, but I'm going to tell you, I didn't know. Look, now that you're telling me that it's a green light, that if it is some business out there, just make sure she included in the business. Guess all she won't. I mean, I'll hear any time.

Yeah, I'm going to let, listen, I'm going to let, um, I'm going to let him know. And all he's going to do is tell me what, let me know what you want to do. But, you know, I still feel like, but shit, I mean, it don't even matter because Laura, she, I mean, what we're talking about. Yeah. At this point in time, the motherfucker's storm is there. Everybody wet, so it don't even matter. And I'm going to be real.

I think it's less of a hit. Just, you know, bang and get over with. And at that point in time, it ain't even no more conversation, but we probably don't even need to do that. You know what I'm saying? Because if it's a conversation had or a scene done to where it's an understanding that, yeah, it's acknowledgement. And then you take her and rebrand her for what you're talking about doing, I think it could work.

So I think this was a great, this was a great set out because now we can continue on further to business outside of that business. Yeah, sure. But you do know, now I don't know what your relationship is with Black Sam, right? Loose should claim they were tight. I don't know. He would never, he would always say it. I'd never really seen them together like that. but he might have something to say about it.

Why are you about the content or whatever she's doing with you? No, hell no. She, Black Sam, going to have nothing. She worked for Black Sam. At the end of day, China is under me. So I'm in China. I'm going to make sure China get her bag or whatever. I mean, they don't take care of China like that.

Okay, well, shit. That's all you got to say. Yeah. Shit, we are rolling. She's her own bag, bro. She's trying to make, do businesses and all that other stuff on her own. Like, she don't really, she, she, her and Black Simms close to their brothers, but, I mean, brother and sister, but at the end of the day, she wants to expand on her own. Yeah, that's, so listen, y'all heard it here.

Look forward to that. I've been working on a paywall structure that I'm building. Academics is probably going to be on Academy. We got the Tronics and Academy coming together. I got a lot of entities coming together with some crazy. content, some of our top top execs, people that I work with got like 20 and 30 episodes of things they shot throughout their lifetime that we have yet to see some of our big, big indie labels.

We got that done. We got some stuff called the Creek Shot 30 episodes. Me and Flacco is launching the company next week for marketing promotion for up and coming and underground bloggers and artists, artists as far as full-blown marketing campaigns. Y'all going to love that. You just gave me like two, three, three, three. rejoins and now I have a situation with academics where he's gave me

the green light to do academics looking for love. He's serious. He wants R&B to vet the women. He's 34. He wants a woman or female that don't have any children. That makes sense for him. So if you're going to do that on that end... You see, if you look at like, uh, my reality TV show... No, no. No, no. I got one of the... I got bad bitches, bro. Yeah. I don't have... It's not like these, uh, fucking other reality TV shows where a nigga, they bitches

just work. Yeah, they're gonna, listen. I'm telling you right now. You go lock that down with her to do that. I'm gonna lock. China is locked down. I'm gonna lock the thing now

with to do act. Are you hearing what I'm saying? Yeah. When we launch acts, you can launch that one. Yeah, we can launch that. On our same platform. Yeah.

So one is pushing the other. You got controversy on both of them. Yeah. And then I got, no, we got all that. We got like, bro, we got, I'm gonna show you when we get off some other shit, you're gonna go, go,

fuck your head up. Yeah. Because the shit I got that people sending me is crazy. Like, so we got enough, I got enough content right now before you even came to the table for the next nine months.

Yeah. So you just kind of, what you're talking about, give us another strong six months. And then I still got a few things that I haven't shot. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. So, I mean, shit, hey, look, this is a great interview. I appreciate you for pulling up. We didn't got the business clear. This right here was great because now people are going

understand like the nigger ain't been bullshit because I've been telling people, bro, if I was saying anything wrong, China would have been spoke out against me. No, it was just... Hassan Campbell said some shit like 2021, 2021, you know how long

this shit been in existence, right? So if a nigga was going to say something, a nigga would have been gone a couple years already, but I'm having the conversation with him and I said something to him. He recorded it and he played it. So when niggas double back,

Like, whack, did you say this? Nigger, that's me saying it already. So at that point, I stood on it, right? But I still made sure it never came out. Yeah, it was just the way that people perceived it. They thought that it was really doing some gay shit. No, he ain't, listen, what he was doing? It just was some super free.

What we come from, niggas is going to say it's gay activity. But I'm telling you, there's no penetration. no, no, no, uh, oral, nothing between the two men, but the shit he did with the, and some, and not even that after the, the, some other videos, this niggas kicking it the way they was kicking it. Some niggas are going to perceive that the way they're going to perceive it. Some other people are going to be like, well, I don't see nothing wrong with it. But I will say this.

At that part, at that part of his life, that's who he was. Yeah. Like with me with my woman. I'm a silly dude. I dance and can't dance and sing it can't sing. Everybody got shit they may do that your persona, the perception of your persona may not, it may not add up with him.

The nigga was, he was on some other shit. Yeah. I think he could have had another career. Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, he's doing a bunch of freaky shit. Yeah. Yeah. And I had another issue.

What's so with Eddie Boy? You deal with Eddie Boy? Yeah, I talk Eddie Boy every day. Okay, you do with Eddie Boy. So what is it about? Because I didn't drill Eddie Boy on everything. Okay, so. Anything you want to ask me about, I pretty much know because Luz had a problem.

You're talking about your father? Yeah. Okay, so. There's no black and white with, with, what I will tell you this. He has black and white. He told me he was going to send me black and white. So this what I'm going to do. 600 got the black and white.

He got black and white. He got the black and white. He got the black and white. He got the black and white. He got the black and white. black and white showing people the protective custody status

he has the black and white from his brother and it's also it's crazy because about three weeks ago now let's keep it real a private investigator got a hold of me

that works for Eddie boys brothers case case the P.I. is saying it's two people that if they gave a affidavit are clear that man, right? Which is your father.

And he told, he, your father and, and, and what's the other nigga they say? Telling, uh, big you, one of his good friends. He's doing life. It'd come to them.

There's two of them. Yeah. Pidiwack. Peatty whack. Okay. These are the two that now you got to ask your I said, well, I said, what you need an affidavit for them for? So, originally... That's something that they claim.

Originally, it was other people implemented in that situation. Your father, on the paperwork that Eddie Boy claimed he has, is the one that implemented and identified his brother. His brother didn't have nothing to do with it. He had nothing to do with it. But somebody is crazy. from the conversation, you and your brother was Pines. Let your father know that if he didn't switch that up,

certain names, y'all was in jeopardy. I think at the time your mother may have been in the Anlo Valley or San Bernardino or some shit. Y'all was little. Yeah, we were in, we was in L.A. Okay, well, whatever, right? So when it came down to it, they threw Eddie Boy brother name in there

in place of other. do name. So the P.I. called me. When he called me, I got Eddie boy on the phone. So Eddie boy started drilling him like, yeah, you're really working for my brother's law firm. So they need real life

for David's something sign from your pop saying no, he wasn't the one. So my question that you are ex-con, like I'm ex-kind, why the fuck would they need something from your father saying he wasn't one? What does your father have to do with a case that he's

not in jail for? Okay. Now, this is the situation I'm going to say, because with my father's case of him being on there, there's a, I have black and white where I got 115, 60 members on it that total on my dad. I'm not disputing that. So, so. But that still wouldn't, that still doesn't say that. The names that you've been saying, names that's been saying is on that black and white. That's a fact. Big you, nigga.

Nickas, a lot of Nickas been telling. Look. Can we, look, bro, let's look, look. Let's stop sugar-coded. They keep real. A lot of niggas

been telling on the black and white. A lot of people have been telling, but I have never seen no black and white with nutty name on it, period. Let me, I'm gonna ask a, nigga, why you here. Yeah. Because he spoke, he got it.

Because, nigga, I asked, I asked Eddie boy, like. Eddie real horrible about it. I'm going to ask you why here. we're going to clear it up right now because you know I had to go through this with Luke's and him that's how I know from just sitting back on the phone

listening Eddie I'm here with Luce's brother main event main event his twin and he's asking me and you know I didn't been on the phone with you so much and heard you break this down and I remember a few of the documents you sent me

right and I just told him a private investigator contacted me and I got you on the phone that was working for your brother's law office, right? And the main thing they needed was an affidavit from Pidiwack and from Nutty, his father, right? So he's like, what does my father have to do with that?

I said, well, if they need an affidavit from your father, right, from what I know, Eddie Boy's brother had nothing to do with it. And I kept it real with him. At the time, it was other names involved. and they threatened Nuddy and said that way. They kidnapped him

and told him they were going to kill the twins and the twins' mama if he didn't do X, Y, and Z. If he just switched the names up. So now his thing is, and I know you got with your brother, is there black and white identified Nuddy? Yeah, yeah.

You should still have it. Okay. When I get home, I sent it to you. Resented. to me. So listen, listen. You hearing it out the horse's mouth. Yeah.

I mean, I talked to Eddie, boy, I talked to you about a year ago. And I told you to send that paperwork, I never got no paperwork. Yeah, because I sent you to the good brother. They've seen it. Lou's definitely seen the shit

and went on the internet and called your daddy a rat. Yeah, I haven't seen it, bro. You definitely did that. But at the end of the day... But send it, now let me ask you something. Yeah. Dude innocent.

Could you facilitate getting an affidavit? I told a big Eddie boy. What did I tell you? I said if that was the case, I was going to make sure that that happened. Okay, well, Eddie, send me to work when you get home. I sent it over there to him. Right, no problem.

I ain't got a problem with that. All right. Look at the head and go. See, one thing about me, you see how everything you asked me, I'm able to put it in front of you. And that's where it comes from. So when you hear me speaking about it, he sent me some, he sent me loose and 600, some documents.

I just see so much shit that I'm going to be real. Your father has never really been a fucking dang for me. You know what I'm saying? I don't know nothing about it. I hear a bunch of niggas say he was three-four different neighborhoods. Rase really goes crazy. He's the worst thing ever happened to the 60s and all this shit and all this. And I saw somebody did a little clip on me on the internet,

but I can't believe that. But your pops has never been a thing for me. I talked to him like two, three times. Luce Cannon wanted to record the, Nick. I don't know why. He got mad at me. You didn't record, no, nigga, I ain't recorded. You called me to tell me to my nish dad,

and you wanted me to chime in the cop. Fuck him, record, dick, that's your dad. Well, nigga, next time he called me and record the shit. So, you know, which I told myself, well, shit, I don't know what he wanted me to do with it. Something ever happened with the nigga. Maybe it'd be a memoir or something. Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day.

At the end of day with that situation, when my brother's talking about record some shit, you just never know who was really speaking to you. Because my brother... No, that was your pops. You sure? I'm sure that was your pops. All right.

I'm sure I was your pops. Because he was in the joint and certain homies that was on the yard with him, he was calling him for certain things to come over there. And he had a board date coming or something. Yeah. That was him. I will say this.

He on the main line. He wherever the fuck he ate. Always been on the main line. Yeah, wherever he had, he on the mainland. He ain't quitting. No, I don't think he didn't quitting. Yeah, he went back to quitting. They opened, what, back to Devereaux or back to the main line?

No, he's coming home soon, so at the end of the day, I want to make. He was supposed to have a board here in June. Yeah, I'm letting you know he's coming home, so at the end of day, we're going to take these. Yeah, when he said the documents, I'm going to send him to you. Your pops have never been a, uh... But, you don't know too much about him. You know, Eddie got injuries because his brother, been in the penitentiary 33

motherfucking years beyond some bullshit so that's his injury because little Eddie boy he went to jail on some shit that didn't have nothing to do with with my pops in the first place so I don't understand

but I, nigga I got, like I said he's in there for this what they call it, it's the last name the murders it's a family the murder Oh, that's seed up see people

What's the murder? What's the murder? You're talking about the football player No, it's a family. It's a family. where they went in there to get somebody. One of them niggas killed the niggum from 6-0. They went over there to get him.

He wasn't there, so they knocked a kid and the mama down or some shit. They knocked down the whole family. There you go. They knocked down the whole family. That's the murder, that little Eddie in there on, right? See, that's the thing. Am I right? Yeah, I mean, there's, no, it's a couple of us.

That's CEDA, right? So that's the reason why I'm bringing this up because there's a lot of things that niggas is saying. This is how you know. has the same last name as us. This is how you know I was on the phone with your father. When Luce Cannon asking about is he on some paperwork, your father's exact words was,

ain't no names on that paperwork, it's all numbers. Are you familiar with that? This is how you know, this one came out, here's my mind. But again, I don't know, I don't know, little Eddie boy. That's the real. I don't know, I don't really know too much about it, but I do know it's a common denominator that motherfucker that keeps popping up.

And he told, he told Eddie, you know, when me and 600 first, we didn't know Eddie Boy. The older road in 60s said, go holl at Big Eddie Boy. He got some shit on old boy. So when he's seen me and 600

on the phone with Big Eddie Boy, he called Big Eddie with the Muslim shit. Right? With the Muslim whole Muslim spill. and told Eddie, but don't talk to them, and I'm gonna get Pidiwack and Nuddy boy

to sign affidavit. Now, you gotta ask yourself. I know. I heard about that. Why is he, why everybody keeps saying these two people need to sign an affidavit?

Yeah. You get what I'm saying? This shit back in the 80s or some shit, right? That shit happened in 80s. Yeah, so you know. But when he sent me to work, I'm gonna send it to you.

I don't know your pops. They never seen your pops. Ain't never did no time with him. I'm just in the middle of it because I'm being used as to what you think. Yeah, the middleman. Yeah. But the thing is that, like I said, my dad had been on the main line. The whole time.

Y'all have a question that. I talked to Pee Wee from Forty. He said, he remember your dad when he was little. And he said, pops got hands. You know, he said you say your pops is a rider. But at the end of the day, niggas, a lot of niggas is riders. that didn't dish. They weren't supposed to do.

I understand that, but it's, niggas have the black, see, the only reason why I haven't showed the black and white with a hundred and 15 people that told them on my dad from the hood is because I don't want,

you know, to put that out there like that. It's names on there. I got, I got me being even in the law industry and all that shit, I have access to a lot of shit,

period. So I have, I know who's been telling who hasn't been telling and I know for a fact that that paperwork is going to have numbers on it, but it's not going to have names on it. I don't know. This is what I know.

You asked me, I told you what I knew, how I knew it, called him. Right? He told you, yeah, I did send Wack, Luce, 600, some shit. And I really don't really remember it because I ain't really too invested in that. You would be able to remember if it had names on it. No, I remember. Let me tell you what I do remember. It was

paperwork identifying that Pidiwack and your father had to be in protective custody due to being a witness. I seen that one.

Now that one I could tell you, I remember that one. Pewak been on the main line too. Yeah, but I know that. But it's been times where big you been calling in there telling people leave PeteyWack alone. And Peteywack, he didn't have his issue from what they say

with certain individuals. Because he got a whole other older thing prior to this with a cat from A. Trey or something. I don't know. Shit before my time. But when Eddie boy sent it, nigga, I'm going to send it to. He's going to send it tonight because I'm going to make sure he sent it tonight.

And they say when he gets home, he's going to send it. I'm on him. And send it to me. That's a fact. Like I told him over a year ago I told him if that's the case I'll make sure that... And then I'm gonna put you online with that private investigator

as helping his brother. He got a hold of me because he heard us talking about it on the internet. I know. Whoever this dude is, right? I put you online with this shit then y'all can take it from there.

Yeah, we can do that for sure. That's it. All right. Yeah. Let's do it. Y'all.