No Jumper - Adam Interviews The Doctor Who Did His Hair Transplant!
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No Jumper. Coolest podcast on the world.
And today, on the Saturday afternoon, I've convened a very, very important podcast.
I get constantly asked questions about my hair transplant, of which I have had three,
which I will explain as we go on here.
But I've actually convened a panel with not only the man himself, Dr. Akar, who was
responsible for my hair transplant, but also the man who put us in touch.
noted
performer, celebrity,
one of the finest to ever do it,
Kieran Lee as well.
How are you guys doing?
Very good.
Thank you, sir, yourself.
I'm amazing.
Happy to be in here.
I feel like we're going to be able to answer
a lot of questions for the people out there
who are very curious
about how this goes down.
Thank you very much for the inviting.
Yeah, my pleasure.
So you are located out of Istanbul.
Yeah, yes, and we are in Istanbul.
Uh-huh.
We have a lot of offices around the world,
but the medical process
is just done in Istanbul.
Right.
And so how long, just to give them your credentials and everything like that,
how long have you actually been doing hair transplants?
I'm doing about 15 years.
15 years, okay.
15 years.
And I don't count anymore how many patients I did.
Right, because at this point,
you're basically running like a factory type setting
where you've got a huge,
how many people might come through the building in a given day?
It's so I'm not the only doctor.
Yes.
We have a lot of doctors.
in our clinic.
And so each doctor do a number of patients a day.
They have a maximum limit.
But I do myself every day just one or two maximum operations.
Okay.
Myself.
And the other doctors, they are doing the same.
So in total, we have, like, daily, like, depends on the season.
In summer, it's a bit more less.
It's like five, six patients.
But in wintertime, it's a bit more, like, 10 to 15 patients.
okay for sure so okay I guess like one of my first questions from thinking from the perspective of the people out there is just who is someone that might need a hair transplant or that would be an acceptable person to do it because I think some people think that their hairline is so bad so far back that they're missing so much hair that they maybe would not be applicable for it and then there's some people who maybe are just experiencing a little bit of thinning their hair is just thinning and their hair is just thinning and
but it's not like completely patchy yet.
Who, like, do you feel like there's a typical type of person who makes this decision?
Because when I was in your clinic, I saw guys who were probably in their 50s, maybe even 60s,
who were really bald, who were getting the process done, which made me realize how many people
were actually able to do this.
It is so, Adam, there are different situations.
Sometimes the person, he had great hairline.
it's a low hairline
but he started to receive his hairline
and he wanted back this
what he had in the past
they came to the clinic
because like all pictures
like pictures from 20 years ago
and he wanted to say doctor I want this back
this is what I want
I don't want more I don't want less
I just want that what I had before
but I lost
but sometimes people
from the jeans
they have like high hairlines
they have like high corners
and they feel
they are not happy with the high forehead and they come to lower the hair lines.
Male, female, it doesn't matter.
And in all cases, hair transplantation is possible,
but in each cases the expectation should be well explained before to the person.
Because, for example, what you told, I see like a person,
he's both from the front up to the back to the donor zone, to the safe donor area.
So for this person, we cannot give like a density he was 15 years old.
But we can give him a nice result, nice looking, but maybe not 100%, but we can achieve 80%.
Definitely.
Because like that's one thing that I realized when I got my procedure done, because for those who don't know,
there's basically like shuttles vans that would take you like from the hotel to the clinic
to make the whole experience very smooth.
It's not like, you know, because as an American in, you know, Istanbul,
could be a little bit confusing or overwhelming.
And you guys go super out of your way to make it as smooth as possible for somebody who hasn't even been outside the country or anything like that.
But I'm in the van with all kinds of different patients.
And I'm, you know, talking to some woman who had just gotten the procedure done.
And, you know, to me, her hair looked totally normal.
And but as I'm looking at it, I'm seeing that it's kind of the lines are like receding up here and stuff.
And she had all this filled in and everything.
and just looking at her and sort of realizing,
and now I've done a little bit of research
and gone and looked at other women
who've had this procedure done,
it made her look so much more youthful
and just made her hair look so much stronger.
Like it's something that I think people really underestimate
is the extent to which the density of your hair
is a huge indicator for people of how youthful or healthy you even look.
Exactly.
Hairline, hair density,
people, if a human eyes look to face
and if you see the density, the hair line,
it means the same as health, healthness,
healthy, healthy person,
and the same as like youthful.
So this comes all together.
So that's why in the last 10 years,
maybe in the last 15 years,
hair transplantation comes very popular.
Especially in Europe.
The UK, UK is huge.
UK is huge.
UK is huge.
United States comes very big
and from China
to I don't know from everywhere
it's comes very popular
because the results comes
very natural
hair transplantation is not
something new it's like over 80
years
it's on a medical field
over 80 years
but the results
there was not
that satisfied
so people who are scared
they was not sure
I stay bald maybe it's better
It was the whole shave your head grow up here.
Exactly.
That was the Jason Stadam type.
Exactly.
It was sometimes like a trend while.
Yeah.
Because the results was not that natural.
So now we figure out how we can really do it as natural as a person has like no hair loss.
So people cannot see that it is a hair transplantation.
Well, they used to take the strip.
strip and then basically cut it and then.
I got one of those.
I got the scar.
I do have the scar.
Much like Joe Rogan, who also is another one who's got it.
The scar is not wrong, to be honest.
Right.
As a medical treatment is not wrong.
If you do it well.
What's it called?
FUI.
It's FUT.
FUT, right.
FUK.
FURUHR transplantation.
It's not wrong.
But in the final, the patients decide which method comes popular.
The patient's
push the doctors to not cut the skin like a line,
to take the follicles one by one, very sensitive,
with very small instruments to leave,
to keep them a chance for very fast healing.
So at this time, all the medical doctors,
which are in the hair transplantation field,
they push to the FUE.
That's the new one, the follicular unit extraction.
Right.
So for the people at home, basically, like,
the old school style that I originally got,
they'll go into your head,
they cut out a whole strip and then they're able to basically take all those hair follicles and move
them to the front.
And the new style that you do is they actually go in and remove your hair follicles one by one.
It's kind of hard to wrap your head around how this is even possible.
But they remove them one by one, move them to the front.
And then once they're done and they've put thousands and thousands of hairs in, you know,
whatever area that you need it, then afterwards basically your head gets kind of like hard,
a little stiff and crusty.
You get like, you know,
little tiny scabs around all those hairs,
but you have to be kind of sensitive to your hair.
Don't touch it too much.
You have to be careful about how you wash your hair and everything
for maybe like a week afterwards.
Yeah.
And then once time goes by,
those kind of fall out and it'll look a little bit scraggly for like a couple
months,
but then it starts to grow back in.
And usually it takes around a year before you're able to see the full strength of how
your hair.
And we're both at that point where our hair looks like 100%
and how it's going to look.
But that's the whole process.
And I mean, the advantage of cutting the whole strip out, I guess, is mainly price, right?
Because it's quite a bit less expensive, at least from my experience back in the day.
It's less expensive.
It's true because it's more time-consuming.
Yeah.
It's easier because instead of taking the follicles on the scalp one by one,
you take the strip, take it out, and you cut it under the microscrues.
much easier, faster.
Yeah.
But what we see is in the last 20 years, patients don't like it.
It sucks.
I hated it.
What was the recovery?
It was cheap and that's great.
But at the end of the day, you've had a huge hole cut in your head and they stitch it back.
And realistically, they do everything possible to make it a smooth transition, but it still
hurts really bad for a couple of months.
And even with mine, like, it's been 10 years.
and it's still a little stiff back there.
And you obviously can see the scar if you were to shave your head in the future and everything.
From my perspective, I would not really recommend it to anybody besides maybe if you only had a tiny amount of money, maybe then it could be.
But actually, that's one part of it too is that when I was went out to get the transplant from you,
I realized that the amount of money that people charge in Turkey is so much less expensive than what
costs out here to the point where you might as well go to Turkey.
Even with the flight and the hotel, it's still going to be way cheaper than getting it done
out here.
Even if you're somebody with a lot of money, even if 10 grand, 20 grand isn't that much to you,
it's still so much cheaper to go out there that I think it makes way more sense than doing
it in America.
And Edom, very interesting is people sometimes think about Turkey, they go to Turkey because
it's very cheap.
It was 15 years ago, it was like that.
We've begun, where we try to understand, where we try to show our results.
People try to come first to try if it's really work or not.
But now we have a lot of patients.
They come with private jets from China, from Japan.
So you're saying it's also the best.
The doesn't matter from Dubai.
They come with private jets.
They stay for two nights and they pay what they have to pay and they go back.
But now the quality is much more on the.
front than the price.
But still we don't change the prices
that much. Right.
We improve a lot. We improve the hotels.
We improve the accommodations. We improve everything.
We hire much more people.
But still we don't change the prices too much
because we want that, okay, it's a aesthetic treatment.
We want that everybody should be, have the chance
to get back what they have in the past.
That's the most, one of the,
most different points on hair transplantation.
We don't try to give something
obvious or something very different.
We try to give to the people
what they have, but they show us
on the pictures, but they have it in the past.
We try to give them back this.
Turkey is now like the capital of the world for
hair transplant, especially in Europe.
Everybody knows it. There's all the jokes
about Turkish airlines and whatnot,
like the pictures of the guys on the plane
have all had it done and everything, yeah.
I see also on Grammy, I think,
He makes like a joke about Turkey.
Oh, I didn't see it, but probably, yes.
Everybody knows about it at this point, yeah.
But that's the thing.
But I'll be honest, when I first went, when people said, oh, you're going to go to Turkey.
I thought, hostile.
You remember the movie Hostel?
I thought I'm going to go, I'm going to Turkey.
I've never been to Turkey.
I didn't know much background.
I'm thinking, I'm going to end up a place like that at Hostel and nobody's going to speak English.
And what am I getting myself in for?
But the experience was.
night and day.
Like,
I'll be honest,
the clinics,
especially your clinic,
it's better than anything
you'll find in Beverly Hills.
The Beverly,
I've seen,
like,
you know,
my wife's had her boobs done.
It's like a little corridor.
You know,
it's like an old dainty office,
but he's one of the best doctors.
But I'm not going,
I don't know if I trust this place,
so you know,
from the outside.
Now,
going to yours,
it's like stepping in,
you remember the Jetsons?
Yeah,
it was like stepping into the Jetsons.
I'm like,
this is unreal.
The clinic is out of this world.
and I think now people are seeing that going
hang on I can go for a bit of a vacation
I'm looked after
people speak English
it's great environment
and the results I'm getting
this is the most important
it's a result
you can give a five star hotel
you can be very nice
but if you don't give him the result
why he came before
it doesn't matter
but not just him
it's her as well now
that's the thing now
I'm noticing a lot of
girls are going, I can get my head.
Again, my wife, she's, she had three children.
And like, obviously, most, you know, a lot of ladies experience hair loss after.
And then she's going, I'd like mine, like, lowered down a little bit now and things
like that.
And it's not just a guy thing anymore.
Yes, it is.
It's both.
More and more women ladies are more interested because what we see is they are not
happy with the corners because if they pull out like,
back, they think the forehead is too high.
And the name of the surgery has the special name, lowering of the forehead.
Okay, what is it?
For the girls that I've had Tushy Cash had hers done.
She called it the Barbie hairline?
Yeah, exactly.
Similar, exactly.
Basically, yeah, it just looks like a dog.
It's called like lowering the hairline, lowering the forehead.
This is now one of another reason for hair transplantation.
Okay.
Yeah.
What was the reason you got yours done?
So Adam, you have three, right?
I have three.
You explain from the one.
How do you decide I want to?
Well, okay.
So I feel like I'm the best test case for why going to Turkey is the best decision.
Because in 2012 in Long Beach, I ended up getting it done.
And that's where they cut the strip out.
I think I spent around $3,000.
And it was good.
It was successful.
It got it done.
but also very painful with the head in the background and everything.
It was stapled clothes.
I think it was that was a terrible experience.
But as far as the actual price and what I got done, it was okay.
Then 2018, I ended up getting, I think, 15.
And that first one, I think I got 4,000 follicles.
That's good.
The second one, I got 1,500 follicles, I think, maybe 2,000.
But I did it in Beverly Hills.
and we did the individual hair method.
I think I spent $15,000, which was quite expensive.
And then in comparison, when I was doing the math, yours,
I got, I think, 6,000 follicles done, if I remember correctly.
And I think it, I don't want to say exactly,
but I think it would have been about a couple thousand dollars.
Yeah.
From your perspective.
So by far, if I could go back in time, I would have gone to you in the first place.
And I would have, if I needed to do it again, I would have done that.
But instead of going under the knife three times, I really think I could have done it back in 2012 and then got it done by you afterwards.
And that would have been good.
I didn't need to get three.
I could have got two.
The one I got in the middle was the most expensive by far and also like the smallest number of follicles.
So, yeah, from my perspective, it's a super.
easy decision. Go to Turkey.
It doesn't matter. Yes, I know you're going to spend
whatever, $1,000 or whatever
on flights and hotel and everything
like that, but the ultimate
result was just so much better.
For sure, having done all three of these,
I would go to Turkey anytime.
If I needed to do it again in five, six
years, however, I would end up
going to Turkey for sure again. When you had yours
done here in America, did they cap you
on how many you could do?
They were very, yeah, because like at that time,
I would have wanted to get a lot more.
And that's one thing in America is that they'll really try to get you to do less,
which I'm,
they didn't even want to do it in the first place.
And I ended up having to say, like,
I'm on camera all day,
every day.
Like,
I have a real reason to want to do this.
And they were like,
okay.
But yeah,
I thought that was strange.
A friend of mine,
yeah,
they did it is done.
And they,
they,
well,
they said it like 1500 or two,
that's the max you can do.
And then he had it done here.
And he was like,
wow,
yeah,
I can see,
you know,
results like that.
But then it's like,
you want more.
You know, it's like, okay, well, if I have another $2,000,
it's going to even bet, that's another $15,000, all of a sudden.
That's one of the very important reasons.
People are asking why people traveling to Turkey, right?
So I have very good friends in states.
I mean, we meet in Congresses and we speak about the techniques and everything.
And they tell us, you're doing too much grafts in one session.
and we tell them
you're doing to less
because we have
almost every day
every day patients
from the United States
who came for
a second session
and I check their files
I check what they did
they get like
1,500 grafts
but the size of the hair loss
will never
the patient will be never satisfied
with that
because everything is a mathematics
you calculate the size
of the hair loss
you know
how many graphs you have to transplant a symptom square that the human eye sees as a nice density
as a nice volume.
And if you have to chance to do it in one time, this is a huge comfort for the patient.
Instead of making every year or every two years a hair transplantation is not easy for the
patients.
This is a part of payment, a part of money, a part of expenses, everything.
if you can give him 4,000, of course, is it done, is everything okay.
If you give him the 4,000 at once, instead of three times,
this gives him five years an advantage to get his final result.
This is one of the biggest reasons people traveling to Turkey.
Yeah, yeah, because, I mean, going under the knife three times versus one time.
I mean, obviously one time is just so much better.
And it is true that when I got mine done with you guys,
I think I might have been getting the surgery for like seven hours or something like that.
Like it took quite a while.
It's basically like a whole day.
And you've got your whole head numbed up and everything.
So I didn't really feel anything.
I actually ended up sleeping like the entire time.
It's pain free.
Yeah, yeah.
I didn't feel any pain.
Yeah.
Afterwards it's uncomfortable because your head will be kind of swollen in the back and it's like scabby and blood.
If you have something like a press on the scalp.
Yeah, you definitely got a couple of days after you get it done that are a little bit uncomfortable.
but you know, you'll be shocked at how quickly you basically just return to normal life.
How good is it after the 13 days when you washed the scabs?
Oh, yeah.
I was like, listen, I've had many pleasurable experiences in my life, many beautiful women.
That's great to you.
But my wife washing that up, I was like, do it again every day of the week.
It was unbelievable.
Right.
Okay.
So one question that came up a lot when I was asking the fans what their questions were
was basically when it comes to white people hair and black people hair.
Yeah.
From your perspective, what's the difference?
What are the different considerations?
Obviously, like, the average black person tends to wear their hair a bit shorter in terms
of men and everything.
And the white men, I think, tend to have their hair a bit longer.
But from your perspective, they're both eligible candidates.
Do you approach it in any way differently?
It's so.
We have, like, white people, they have more.
more straight follicles.
Afro-American have different shape of C-type follicles.
So you need the experience to do that.
First of all, you need the instruments.
The instruments are slightly different.
You need experience, how to do that.
If you do everything right, everything works perfect.
We did a lot of Afro-American hair transplantations,
very good results, no any problem.
We have to make the calculations.
you have to understand the difference of the hair numbers
what you have on the scalp
compared to a white person's hair follicle.
If you know that, everything works perfect.
We do almost every day for Afro-American hair types.
And African hair types have also differences in his.
The follicles, once you take it out, one is like that,
it's like a curfee, sea shape.
Okay.
One is like that.
The other one is like between, it's like mixed rays, for example.
This is a different situation.
If you have the instruments, if you have the experience, you can get great results.
What's the hardest hair type to do?
The hardest hair type is sometimes if you have, it's like Afro-American.
If it's really deep in the scalp, you have to use a bit longer instruments.
a bit longer to catch the follicle, to take it out without the damage to the follicle.
These are the most difficult cases, but for us it's not any more difficult because you do it for many years.
Definitely.
So, okay, from an American perspective, though, I think, like, that's one of the considerations that people have is that they feel like that Turkey is just going to be this wild, you know, they just aren't expected.
They aren't sure what to expect.
They feel like going into this environment that it's going to be intimidating.
From your perspective, what do you guys do to make this as smoothly,
as smooth a process as possible for people?
So first of all, for us, it's very important that people are really feel comfortable
because they come, they go abroad.
It doesn't matter if it's another city or is another country.
You go somewhere where you don't know where you was not before.
And you go for medical treatment.
You don't go for as a normal tourist.
And we try to give the most comfort as possible.
We pick them up from the airport.
We organize their hotels.
We organize their transfer to the hospital.
Whatever they need, they can call Texas anytime.
So all this stuff which can make stress before you come
or during you stay in Istanbul,
we take all this effort in our hands with our stuff.
So this is what they see.
They like this.
And they told us they don't see like a service like that.
They don't expect it until they come.
Of course, you write everything.
We say this is the fire stuff, for example, Sheraton Hotel, Hilton Hotel is first class.
Or they stay in the hospital.
This is also something very important.
If you have some medical risks and we give them a VIP transport.
I mean, all of these are standards.
And if you give them to the patients, they feel very relaxed.
They become, they trust much more.
And very important is we don't finish the connection.
After the hair transplantation or in other procedures, we follow them.
We want that everybody gets really satisfied.
This is very important for us.
100%.
So you've only done it once?
Just the once.
Just the once.
One was six years ago, one of us.
Six years ago.
Yes, six years ago.
And it's still holding in strong.
Have you thought about getting it done again or no?
I was just talking now because obviously for me, I never took the finestriide.
A lot of people always say take finestriide.
Same thing here.
For those who don't know,
finestride is like basically a chemical that you could take.
It's a dhd block.
Basically will make your hair thicker and stronger
and will prevent your hair from receding.
The downside of it.
which is something that most people really wouldn't or shouldn't care about
is that it makes you ejaculate less?
Is that correct?
Or does it make your overall sex drive less?
You can lower your sex drive.
It can lower your sex drive.
The percentage is about,
there are different statistics,
but they say about 1 to 3%.
But sometimes we heard about it sometimes more depends.
Yeah.
It's like...
Because 1 to 3% sounds like almost nothing,
but I think it also kind of affects people mentally.
mentally.
Yeah.
I can see it's more.
What we hear,
what we hear from the patients
as a feedback,
it looks like more.
So that's why people write it on Google,
they have forums,
they share the experience together.
And once they see this world,
less sex drive,
this is like 100% for them.
For any man.
For any man.
And like we were saying,
when you get to that age,
where you start getting,
exactly,
your sex drive is already,
on the way down
but if you say right
I don't want to lose the hair
but I don't want to lose the sex drive
can have the best of both
exactly so for me I
didn't go down that route with the finesse right
for you I don't take on the
yeah you remember
you can take everything
just not the finesse right
right but do you recommend it for
most people though the average patient
I recommend to most people
right but there are different forms now
of finesse right it's not only the tablets
they do as a topical.
Topical means
still goes in the blood circulation,
still goes on the body,
but not like the tablet,
the oral.
So it means less side effects.
So it's helped to maintain.
Okay, hopefully you guys are enjoying this interview
with Dr. Akar.
I just wanted to let you guys know
that if you're thinking about getting
a hair transplant for yourself,
then this is what you got to do.
So I linked up with the Cosmetica Clinic in Istanbul.
And these guys are super legit, world renowned, and mega professional.
And their results speak for themselves.
If you're thinking about getting a hair transplant, all you got to do is hit the link
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And enjoy the interview.
Hopefully it answers all your questions.
questions and if you've got more questions, make sure you leave them down below and us as well as the doctor
will weigh in. Thank you. Do you see men coming in in their early 20s now or in their 20s in general?
I'm sure most people who do it are in their 30s, 40s, I would think, but do men tend to get this done
quite young as well now? Adam, to be honest, in the last two years, I see a lot of people,
the halo starts on age of 17. Yeah. I see that a lot. In the last two years,
I see myself in my clinic a lot.
I don't know the general statistics what's happened, but we see it a lot.
We don't want to do for young people, hair transplantation.
We wait mostly for they start some medications, like regain, like PRP injections,
like other vitamin stuff.
Maybe they can win it back.
Maybe it can be, it can grow back.
He can be satisfied for many years.
But the patients who came to us, we asked them before, they try everything.
Still nothing has happened and he came with his father.
He came with his mom and they told, we speak one by one with their family.
And they told me, doctor, I know he's young.
I know you don't want to take his patient, but he cannot go to the school.
He cannot socialize.
He's very shy.
His friends post pictures on social media,
he don't.
Yeah.
Just he has all the time ahead.
Yeah.
So then we do the operation because we see it's really affects his social life.
It's very important because for his age is a standard.
Yeah.
It's not something extra.
Because I started to notice my hair thinning or the widow's peak coming in probably when I was like 28, 29, something like that.
But I have had friends over the years who at the age of like 18 just started shaving their head because their hair line was so bad that they were
like, okay, I guess I'm just shaving my head for a life, you know, it's not that uncommon.
They get like irregular hairline.
They don't like it.
They start to shave.
It's happened.
To be honest, I never even thought about mine until a friend of mine had his done.
And he, ah, yours is going a little bit there now?
And I, is it?
And then I started looking in the mirror.
And then it was the, you know, washing your hair.
And then you're noticing like, hang on a minute.
And then I'd been on camera all the time.
I would notice going, hang on, my scenes from back in the day,
look at how great my hair looked.
Now I'm going, God, that light's hitting a bit strong there.
And I'm like, oh, no.
And then it was only then I reached out.
And I was like, okay.
And like I said, at first I was oblivious to it.
I thought I was going to the UK to get it done because that's how I'd been speaking to.
And I thought, I'm going to the UK.
And then said, yeah, we book your flight.
You're going to go into Turkey.
And then I'm not going to lie.
that's when I started to panic, but I thought, okay, well, I'm committed to it now.
It is what it is.
If it goes wrong, I'm shaving my head and I'm growing a beard.
That was it.
But then, like I said, I came out and I was like, well, this is another level.
And like I said, over here, it is night and day compared to Beverly Hills to Istanbul.
I think it's miles ahead, miles ahead.
Not just in hair, but obviously the teeth that you do.
And then also the other one, have you seen the full body health screening?
They do that in Turkey.
Yeah.
So over here, what is it?
MRIs.
Yeah, MRIs.
You can test everything and more.
Over here in America, that's costing you $15,000 to $20,000 for all this medical procedure.
Over in Turkey, it was like $1,200.
And you're in a hospital, aren't you, for the day?
And you get everything.
The hospitals in Turkey, like 20 years ago, they go, they're in,
spent a lot of technology for the hospitals.
But building hospital is not to point.
You can have money.
You can build it.
But you need the stuff, the medical staff.
That's the main problem.
And Turkey was the people are very interested in going to the university in medical.
Medical school, nurses.
They are very highly interested in that because it's like a, it gives you like in
the social life like a positive, something positive, you know.
So that's why they build a lot of hospitals.
hospitals, very high luxury.
Each hospital is more luxury than the other one.
It's really like sometimes I don't understand.
I say, hey, what's that?
It's like a seven-star hotel.
It's not like five-star anymore.
It's like a hospital.
But they did it.
They bring all the high-quality, high-tech devices.
They do even special devices just for Turkey from big companies.
And the most important is to run it, to run the hospital.
You need good medical staff.
You need good educated doctors.
And I think Turkey has a good system from the past.
They was able to manage all these big hospitals.
And we have a hospital now, Adam, we changed our building also.
We do everything from A to Z about aesthetics, everything, dental, dental treatments, plastic surgery.
I'm the doctor responsible for a hair transplantation, but we have many other doctors
putting everything from A to Z about aesthetics.
Right.
100%.
Okay, so this is one thing that I wanted to talk about
was just the stigma associated with it
because I remember when I first got my hair transplant
back of the day that I was like very embarrassed.
I didn't want anyone to know.
I was very dedicated to keeping it a secret.
I had a beanie, like a very loose-fitting beanie that I like
because I had friends in town.
I couldn't just like go in my room for a few days.
I had to like be entertaining people that were around and stuff.
So I had this very loose beanie that I would put on to basically like hide the fact that I had had this done.
And I managed to actually keep it a secret for many, many years.
And then when I finally, you know, I finally came clean about it and stuff like that.
But I just wanted to even speak about that because I think probably a decent percentage of people out there don't realize how common this is.
And if you really wanted to get some examples, all you'd have to do is go to YouTube or Google and type in, you know,
men who have had hair transplants and you are going to find out that a huge percentage of the biggest
celebrities musicians actors etc have all had it done you take somebody like a machine gun
Kelly and you look at the picture of him before he got it done and what he looks like now
I mean nothing's going to convince you more than that of seeing what a dude like that looks like
with a killer widow speak versus having a completely straight hairline I mean it takes him from
looking I don't want to attack anyone but from not good to
incredible.
One of the most handsome men
David Beckham.
Sure, there you go.
His is night and day.
Like I saw a picture of him not long.
His hair was like seethrook.
Now he's luscious locks again.
Nice.
You know what, fair play.
Before it was something just for celebrities.
Right.
Like rhinoplasty, for example.
No joke.
It was just something for celebrities,
for Hollywood stars, for example.
But now it's not like that.
So you can get the same quality.
Even better, even better.
If you make your research well, if you know where you have to go,
you can't get the same quality treatment.
I think it's more of a bro thing, though, and it, you know,
it's like guys will, my English is going to come out,
take the piss out of each of each of you.
It'll be like, look, he's got his hair transplant, you know.
Where that was a girl, if you just stuck on new boobs,
she's going, wow, how soft do you boobs?
Wow, that's great boob job.
Look at the scar.
That's fantastic.
it, girls are a lot more, you know, supporting of each other.
It's much easier for a decision.
Yeah, yeah.
Adam, you see you can come to cosmetics after you see Kieran, right?
He's the one who told me, yeah, because I never thought that I would get it done overseas.
I thought that I would just do it in America.
How do you see Cosmetica?
Me?
Yeah, how do you find.
Life changing in the sense of I look at it.
You Googled or you just?
Through Google.
that was it.
And then also another friend of mine
that had had his done
and he was in like, you know, a celebrity
back there and I was like,
in our clinic, right?
Yeah, Callum. Yeah, yeah.
And I looked at Callum's and I'd known Callum for a long time
and I was like, I'm on camera a lot
and I don't want to get to the stage
where I just got, I've got to shave it.
And, you know, I've built up a career.
After you guys, we did also another celebrities
from Hollywood, but you cannot tell the name
to be honest.
You know them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
We cannot tell the names.
I'm sure you've had a lot of pretty well-known people over the years, right?
Keep it secret.
Yeah.
But they start to come.
I mean, and mostly they came for second sessions, what we speak about.
Because they say, doctor, I'm tired.
I don't have time at all.
I'm here in Turkey just for two nights.
That's it.
Do whatever you can.
Of course, in a medical zone, don't make over-harvesting.
Don't make something wrong.
And this is, yeah, this is what's happened.
I mean, they want to come to.
to have a nice long-term result
and they don't have time to come
each time for small small sessions.
For me, like you said, mine's six years.
I'd definitely get mine touched up.
Even though I was saying to you earlier,
I look at it now and go,
I would like to maybe bring it down a little bit more
and do that.
But it's a vanity thing.
It's like you say,
especially like ourselves,
we're on camera a lot.
And you notice these tiny little things
all the time.
And it gives you that confidence
when you go back on camera, you're like, ah, you know what?
Feel good about myself.
It's like when you get in shape, you go, ah, you know what?
I'm looking good again or this.
It's them little things that give you that little edge and confidence, I would say.
If you go to a barber, yeah.
Do they understand?
Did you have a hair transplantation?
No, I have to.
Yeah, you have to tell them, right?
Yeah.
I had my head done.
He's like, what?
Where?
And the first thing they do is look for the scar.
To the scar.
Yeah.
To the door.
Yeah, exactly.
What I've noticed is, well, mine still came in great.
So it was good.
See, that's interesting because I've heard Joe Rogan talk down upon the hair
transplants, and it's because of the fact that he got it done back in the day
where they cut the chunk out of his hair, and he doesn't like the fact that he has the
scar and everything.
But in reality, even if his hairline is all the way back to here or whatever,
realistically, he could go get a hair transplant once or twice in Turkey and probably
They have a pretty decent head of hair on them.
There you go.
That's your mission,
bring him out.
Josh,
can we do an evaluation of your head?
You don't got to come on camera,
but what about that?
You can fix that up, right?
You can fix that.
Looks good.
Jeez.
Would you like to get it?
You got your work cut out for you.
There's definitely some follicle weakness going on over there.
But, I mean,
okay, so if you,
what would be just back of the napkin math,
when you look at his head,
how many follicles do you think that he would probably need?
I mean, what he lost is, first of all, what we ask us, what he lost.
It's like 8,000, 9,000 graphs, what he lost.
Oh, he's lost, 9,000.
Okay.
So what we can transplant is we do like mega sessions.
Yeah.
You do like two days.
We can transplant like 6,000 grafts.
Yeah, yeah.
We use also body hairs to support.
Right.
So if you see mathematically, he lost like 8,000 to 9,000, but we have 6,000.
So it's mean it's very.
you're not super dense everywhere.
But if you make a good planning,
if you make a nice hairline design,
if you make a good distribution,
he can get 90% everything back.
Wow.
It's hair enough, I think.
You could be like cousin it in like a year's time.
Well,
because I think someone like him,
who realistically has experienced a lot of hair follicle loss,
probably would think, like, oh, yeah, it's not for me.
That's for guys who just need like a little bit of help in there and stuff.
But when I was in your clinic,
I just realized, like, oh, there's old men doing this that are fully confident in it.
Like, it's definitely incredible what's possible.
But, okay, I realized also when I was in the shuttle, I was talking to some guys,
like Middle Eastern guys who had like little bandages on the bottom of their beard or on their
chest.
So you can actually take hair out of the chest, out of the beard, the back, I'm assuming even,
or is the back not good?
Back not too much.
Not bad.
Yeah, not that.
Because it's kind of, it's sort of.
it's sort of like,
it's not strong in the same way, I guess.
You can, but the question is,
it should be worthed.
I mean, all this,
you can leave some small scars
that can happen.
Right.
But beard hair is strong.
It's life log permanent.
If the chest hair is really strong,
we can use it.
But if it's too fine,
it doesn't ward it.
Okay.
For example, how old are you?
38.
38.
So our oldest patients was 83 years old.
Oh, my God.
And he came.
he's in his 8 to 3 from a very long trip for his hair transplantation
with his cousin.
Wow.
83.
I mean,
that's bold.
That's him saying,
I believe I've got a lot of years left here on Earth.
And I want to look as good as I can.
If you think it's too late for 38,
it's not late at all.
Not even close.
Oh,
shit.
Australia.
But,
okay,
because,
okay,
I think a lot of people assume that if you were to take the hair
out of your chest hair is different in terms of the shape, texture of it, etc.
Exactly.
But there's a thing called what, donor dominance, where the hair that you put in there
tends to take on the characteristics of the place where you've placed it as opposed to where.
So if you, let's say you had gray chest hair.
Yes.
And you put it into your hair.
It could grow brown.
It wouldn't just grow gray in the place where you put it, right?
It's so the color doesn't change.
The texture, the feeling, the thickness doesn't change.
the hair grow speed
change.
Okay.
Yeah, the hair growth speed,
for example,
chest hair grow
can be limited, right?
Mm-hmm.
And not grow as fast
as the scalp hair.
Right.
But if you change the place,
the speed will be adopted.
It grows long
and the same speed
as the scalp hair.
But the text doesn't change.
But that's why we never
use body hairs
on the frontal zone.
Okay, that's interesting.
We put it,
we make like the distribution
more to the center,
to the crown,
between the scalp hair
we try to hide it as possible
it helps for fullness
for thickness
but if you touch
you can feel slightly
the difference
you can
some people
say I'm happy at all
fix it
fill it
I don't care about the feeling
or I don't know
the color
but sometimes people say
I'm not that happy
you know
we ask them before we explain them
what's the most graphs
you've ever put into a patient?
Our record was like 12,000 grafts.
12,000.
But that wasn't one day, right?
Was that split up into two days?
It was three days.
Three days.
But his head was big.
Big?
Big.
His head was big.
Holy shit.
Yeah.
So we duplicate the teams, the team numbers.
His head was big.
So we make a good.
planning, we measure everything, and we try to understand how many grass we can take,
without making all harvesting.
Yeah, we get over 10,000.
So where did he take all from the back, his hair, beard?
Everything from the scalp.
It was so nice, so dense, so good.
And he was over 40, over 40.
Yeah, it was really nice.
It was a hard work, but it's worth it.
There's a very well-known adult star, Blake Blossom, who,
weighed in on Twitter and said,
would he be able to transplant
hairs into my bush
to make it bushyer?
Is that something you've ever?
So we...
She's serious too.
She got a very thick bush.
We transplant to the chest.
We transplant hairs.
We have a person he was not happy
with his chest.
His partner wants chest hair.
Ah.
Yes.
So we transplant to the chest.
We came up to the abdomen.
but we don't go up to the public area.
Okay.
Have you ever, could you do that?
It's technically, of course, it's possible.
We can't do that.
Just be a strange request.
Yeah.
It's possible.
I'm sure there is some girls that say, I can't grow.
You know, they want the perfect landing.
For example, we had requests.
He had full of hair.
Everything is great.
He has very less beard hair.
Yeah.
And his partner warned that he have hairs on the shoulders.
Ah.
Okay, we say it's technical.
It's possible.
So you're taking the hair out of where to put it on his shoulders.
Exactly.
But where do you take it from?
No, we take it from the scalp.
This is all backwards.
That's okay.
That's backwards.
We take it from the skull.
That's hilarious.
To the shoulder.
Yeah.
And we take again from the scalp and fix his beard.
He has like patches on the beard.
Yeah.
A lot of guys have that.
The beard patchiness is well.
I've heard a lot of guys mentioned that.
If you look at him.
Yes.
It used to look like a snookable.
where now he's fantastic beard.
You can take also from beard, from underpart,
and you can transplant to the upper side with the beard.
Okay.
You can change the place.
Okay.
So keep it sharper.
Yeah.
One person commented, Michael Escobito, said,
does the flight back from Turkey affect swelling and overall recovery?
I know myself, I booked like an extra two days after the procedure
to just hang out in the hotel.
I figured I was just going to be hanging out in bed, sleeping and just sort of lounging around anyway.
So I figured I would avoid having to go on the flight right after.
But from your perspective, is there anything you do to counteract that?
Medical, there is no any problem.
It can be maybe a little more swelling, but swelling is a part of the healing.
I mean, if you have more swelling or less swelling, it doesn't mean you will get a better or worse result.
It is the part of the healing.
It's about your head anatomy.
it's about how many injections they did to numb the scalp.
It's all about that.
I mean, there is no any medical problem to fly next day.
For me, I went for dinner the same night as my...
Yeah, we went for dinner.
I went, had my surgery in the morning.
It was done late afternoon.
I went to the Grand Bazaar,
the big marketplace walking around with a bucket hat on.
Everybody recognized you there.
Yeah, I got, yeah, Turkey, they liked the result entertainment.
And then that night,
went out for dinner.
Fine.
There was no issues.
No issues.
You can fly.
Yeah.
And I flew,
then I flew back from Turkey to London,
had a night in London,
and then back to LA.
No problem.
See,
I didn't even think about leaving the hotel
after I got it done,
but my boy,
Mike Maylack,
Logan Paul's co-host on his podcast.
I saw clips of him out and about in Turkey,
eating at restaurants and stuff.
And I'm like,
ah, shit,
I could have,
I could have lived it up a little bit more
instead of just staying in the crib the whole time.
I didn't,
I just used,
The saline spray
and kept it dry.
That was my big thing.
Yeah,
when I was here in L.A.,
I was making sure
the whole time.
There's another,
there was,
I won't say who,
but there was another male performer
had his done
and straight away,
he got back to L.A.
First thing he did,
he was jumping in a swimming pool,
he's having sex.
That's too much,
maybe.
Because that was,
how long did you wait
until you shot your load?
I think I might have waited a week.
Okay.
You know,
Or on the paperwork it says don't have sex.
It can you really specify, don't masturbate.
And I was really thinking about it.
It's like, you know, I feel like when it says don't have sex, it's saying don't get your heart rate up and be involved in this sweaty, passionate thing for a half hour or whatever.
I figured like me jerking off for two minutes is not going to like aggravate my hair.
I don't know.
I mean, you tell me, but I felt like it was.
I went 11 days.
Now, for me, when I said I went a week, I think I went like a day.
A record.
That, for me, 11 days was a record.
And to the point where I got back to the hotel,
I was like, oh, I could easily knock one out right now.
And I was like, I can't, no, I can't.
And then it got harder and harder when I was in it.
And then I was like, you know what?
I'm going to turn this into something else.
So I did a scene straight away.
I remember it was True Kate.
I did the scene with True Kate.
And I'd not done anything for 11 days.
And I just said to a straight off, I went, we can't have sex.
Because I just won't last.
I literally two pump jump it.
And I said, we do blowjob.
And that was it.
And I did that.
And I was holding on for dear life.
Sex is not about only the hormone changes, about the heart rate.
I mean, you can touch the hair.
You can do something wrong, you know.
You can hit it somewhere.
It can happen easily very fast.
So this is what you.
Is that the main reason?
Not because of hormones or.
The main reason is the hormones, the heart rate, sweating.
That's the main reason.
As additional, it's like you can hit it somewhere easily.
I mean, it can happen during the position.
I don't know.
So we get some problems like that.
You know, they came with your partners.
And after two days, they come back, you have bleeding, and we have to fix that.
So that's why we are all recommended to at these four or five days.
Okay, I'm not going that long again.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, it's like a muscle.
Like, if you're used to ejaculating every day,
all of a sudden you go three, four days,
it starts to just feel a little like,
the incredible Hulk all of a sudden, yeah.
Forget that.
Yeah.
You know, okay, someone asked,
and it's kind of like an amateur level question,
but I guess this is something that people probably might need
clarified for them and just said,
is it permanent?
Yes, it is.
It is permanent.
Why is it is permanent?
Because, for example, if you look to the hair loss situations,
you see all the time we have permanent hairs on the neck, right?
Up the ears, on the back side, because these hairs, they are not programmed to loss,
even if the DHD is high or if you test at least, because they are permanent.
They are different from the hairs from the front, central crown.
So if you take the follicles which are permanent, which are not effective,
by the hormones, if you transplanted a new place, they're lifelong permanent.
They can get it thinner or thicker.
That's possible.
You can have more volume, less volume after 10 years on the transplanted area.
It depends on do you take vitamins for your hair?
Do you use good shampoos for you hair?
Do you care about your hair?
If you support them, it will be all the time in the highest volume, density, fullness.
But if you don't care too much, it can make.
may happen that it gets a bit
like thinning. What about like natural
regression? Like you know, some people like
for me for example, let's say my
crown started going, yeah, that
wasn't there
six years ago but then let's say in
10 years and my crown starts
thinning. Yeah, that's going to happen. That will happen
naturally anyway. That can happen.
But that's not the way you have
the hair restoration. Exactly.
It's not for the sunspont area.
Your existing hairs can still receive, can
still, if you have a small count,
it can expand after 10, 5 years, 10 years,
then we are ready for the second health transplantation.
You can do lifelong three, four times a hair transplantation.
That's possible.
Right, definitely.
So, okay, I just want to lay this out for people out there.
Let's say you're a guy,
and you've got a fair amount of thinning in the front.
Maybe you need a couple thousand or 5,000 follicles.
How much would they realistically need to have in order to,
go to Turkey and get this
procedure done? Like, can we estimate
what the cost would be just for people who would
like a ballpark? The cost depends on
the hell loss situation,
but a prox is about from
$3,000,
so it's like from $2,500
to $5,000.
Right. This depends on the
hell loss situation.
How many days? So that would be like
if it's, 5,000 is like maybe
like a two, three day surgery.
If it's maximum, we do two days for a journey.
In two days, we can achieve easily 6,000 graphs,
which is a very high number.
If everything is good, donor area,
beer, donor area, everything.
But as I know, as I remember,
the prices are from 2K, 2K to 5K.
Right.
So, for unlimited graphs, so to speak, well.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
We can take what is donor area can give us,
and the question is also how many graphs
need.
Yeah.
Right.
We don't count like,
so one of the point is what makes Turkey also that popular,
we don't count one by one.
I mean, if you count one by one,
we don't know how to,
you can change the plan during the operation.
Because we can think it's maybe 1500,
but you will see during the operation,
it will be 2,500 graphs.
So how you want to say to the patient,
hey, look, you need 1,000 more.
So it means,
if each graph costs $5,000, you have to pay $5,000 more,
you cannot say that during the operation.
So that's why we have all inclusive packages.
We don't care about 500,000, 1,000 grafts less more.
We do our best for everybody for each patient to make them happy.
Right, because, I mean, for the people out there,
we've been talking about some sort of like outlier cases
where you might need to do two days or 10,000 follicles,
stuff like that.
For the average dude out there,
if you're thinking about getting this done,
unless you are completely bald
where your hair liners were seated,
like all the way back here,
you probably are going to need one day of surgery
and then a couple thousand dollars.
Maybe $3,000 would be like a safe estimate or whatever.
And if you think about it from a guy's perspective,
women are out here getting liposuction, BBLs,
boob jobs, facelifts, injections into their lips,
all kinds of shit, like so much stuff that we don't even know about.
Not to mention the editing of their photos that they're doing.
Not to mention, you know, it's just a whole litany of different things.
As a guy, realistically, there's very little that is actually realistic that you would do,
that you would invest money into in terms of making yourself look better,
aside from exercising, eating healthy, being in good shape.
Outside of that, if you were to do a cosmetic procedure,
realistically, what could possibly have a positive effect on how you look on this scale?
It's just when you think about the price, when you think about how natural it looks,
the fact that I don't think anybody out there unless you're studied in this stuff
looks at somebody like me or Kieran and thinks, oh, they have a hair transplant.
Like realistically, less than 1% of the population is going to think that when they look at you,
which is completely different than a woman getting a boob job or a BBL where a lot of people can tell right away.
It's just, it's so well camouflaged.
It's so useful in terms of making you look younger, making you look healthier, making you look more attractive.
Mine's night and day.
I've just not looked at the picture.
Oh, okay.
We should insert that into the video as well.
So we have, period, this is six, seven years ago, right?
Seven years.
Wow.
So fast goes everything.
Look at that just for men on the beard.
So these are the pictures.
For example, you ask for different cases, Adam, right?
Yeah, yeah.
I want to show Kiran and I want to show you with your permission.
Sure.
So this is, for example, Kieran has a receding hairline, receding corners.
So in the pictures, on the videos, everything looks very high.
If you look from a different angle, it looks very high.
And this was disturbing here.
So we made a plan to lower his hairline in a natural way, fill the corners.
For example, this is another view.
Oh, yeah.
It's crazy.
When you think about it.
A lot of people at home are looking at that thinking, oh, yeah.
Mine's pretty close to that right now.
They're kind of on the fence.
Realistically, yeah, this is,
if you're dealing with something like this,
you could thicken it up,
you could fill in those gaps.
I didn't even know mine was that bad until...
Because you're so used to combing in the way that you want to comb.
And when you really realize how your hair is,
is when you see yourself on camera under the bright lights.
And then you're like, oh, shit,
that's not what it looks like when I look in the mirror.
Many patients, they are very surprised
once they see in the clinic,
we take these pictures.
because it's normal because
they try automatically hide it.
They try to hide it,
make like an overcomp,
but we have to see the real situation
to make the real planning.
For example, if Kieran don't have a hair transplantation
seven years ago,
Curian, you will be somewhere.
I'd be, yeah.
George Costanza.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A different brand, a different name.
I'm like, Josh.
Josh, don't worry.
Yeah, he's going to fix.
We will take care for you.
Don't worry.
Yeah, we're going to get you, Josh.
Looking back at it now, I didn't realize how bad mine was.
Yeah.
They got the little clips in there to pull it back to really let you see exactly what's going on.
Yeah.
Because we do to the hair loss area and through the hair thinning area.
Yeah, yeah.
It should be together.
To make everything fluent and once looking.
So I look at like pictures of my uncle and my dad and I have the exact same hair loss.
There's his back.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
My dad too, all the way.
It's all gone now.
Yeah.
And this was after transplantation.
Okay, and yeah, people might be curious about that.
You do have to shave your head in order to get the procedure done
because they need to be able to pull out the little tiny follicles
and not have to deal with a whole, you know, two inch long hair.
That would be a pin of the ass.
It was pain free.
That's the one thing.
When people said to me, oh, it's going to be really painful.
I was like, I was a bit worried about that.
But it was literally, well, you've had tattoos.
Yeah.
It's getting a.
done is just the pain of shooting
Novakane into your head. So you'll feel like
a bunch of little pinches from the needles shooting the
noviccane in, but then after that,
you don't feel anything. Now, once that wears off,
then your head is a little swollen and everything
and you're uncomfortable for a couple
of days, but realistically, the actual surgery
is painless. It felt like someone was just flicking
it with a little elastic banner. That was
it, and I didn't feel. Are you
ready? I'm ready. Yeah, let's do this.
Oh, yeah, yeah, I remember that.
Yeah. And keep in mind, this is me
after having two surgeries already.
You had two surgeries.
You look like Jesus Christ on the cross there, man.
More ways than one, yeah.
Wow, that was getting pretty.
Then there, I forgot how bad it was.
I'm so used to how it looks now, yeah.
It was not easy for us because you had two surgeries.
Oh, so that made it more difficult to get it out of the back?
What's the difficult part?
The difficult part is, first of all, the skin gets more tight.
Okay.
Okay.
And if the skin gets more tight, the follicle stacks more in,
and you have to be very gentle, more careful, more gentle.
The sharpness of the punches gets more past a dull.
You have to change it fast.
It has difficulties.
It changed the direction, for example.
If you get the strip, and if you bring the strip together up and down,
it makes your skin tighter on your head, yeah.
It's the angle changes doing the stitches.
But we have the experience about that.
This is how it's like.
Oh, yeah.
There I am.
There you go.
The entire front part.
You had tattoos.
Cracking tattoo.
The tattoo, I'm thinking, I haven't got a good look at it,
but I'm thinking the tattoo is not looking that great back there anymore.
Yeah, I would have to get a redone if I was ever going to have a shit head again,
which I don't plan on.
Yeah, that's good.
That's before.
That's after guys.
Yeah.
No worries.
Looks pretty solid, yeah.
No, yeah.
That's a no-brainer from my perspective.
If you're a guy, it's the easiest decision if you're suffering from a little bit of hair loss.
You got to do it.
After any vitamins, we give you something like vitamin packs.
I took the stuff like right after.
Yeah, and I used the shampoo for a little while.
Package.
Yes, yes, which thank you very much.
I've had that replenished right here.
Of course.
You guys do have some pretty nice packaging and everything.
Everything's so well done.
There's no medication inside.
It's all like shampoo stuff and everything.
Exactly.
No problem is.
It's like where I say,
there, so palmetta.
Yeah.
It's a massive one for, especially doing what we do.
Yeah.
It's good for your prostate.
It's like that.
There you go.
So it's bent,
not just hair.
It's cleansing you down below as well.
No, facts.
Yeah.
So for anybody who's interested,
I guess we'll have a code that we're going to actually
insert into this video so that people will know exactly how they could get a special discount
through telling Dr. Ocar that you found out about Cosmedica through this podcast.
But what would you say to people who are kind of on the fence or thinking about getting this
procedure done?
How can they learn more about it through your website or anything on social media?
We have a website.
We have the social media.
We can give all the names.
It's Cosmetica.com.
and we can get all the information
but very important is
we have a 724
support team
which especially supports for American patients
that's very important
they are in Turkey and in Chicago
we have the office in Chicago
Cuba
Oh wow
Yeah we have the office in Chicago and we give
724 support
they can reach us
by WhatsApp
by SMS by email
they can, if they want, we can make a call to them.
Sometimes they don't want a call, they won't get the procedure by message.
So we give them all the information.
We need good quality pictures, guys.
This is what we want.
We need good quality pictures from different angles.
We sent you some samples, how we have to send us pictures.
Once we get the pictures, me, other doctors, my medical staff,
we see the pictures and we,
try to give you the most accurate information, how many graphs can be, how many, what kind of
treatment we recommend everything.
Sometimes, some patients, we don't recommend hair transplantation.
You turn people away.
Yes, I mean, before they come to Turkey, the long trip.
What would make you want to turn someone away, though, if they just hadn't really lost
that much hair yet?
Exactly.
For example, he's 70 years old.
He has a very nice hairline.
Everything looks great.
but he won't change the headline just for the trend
just because he sees a famous person
but he don't understand that's that's hairstyle
so you should not try to make a style with the surgery
it's not the same so this we don't recommend it or
his donor area is very poor very less when we believe
it will be not a satisfied result what he want
we ask him what you want first
you want everything you want like 15
then we don't recommend.
The other thing I would say that you have to trust the process
because for me, I remember once it started,
I did that first wash, I looked at it and I was like, wow,
I looked fantastic with a shaved head, that's the hairline.
Yeah.
But then fast forward the two, three months afterwards,
and I had the shock that it all falling out.
I was like, I'll be honest.
I thought I've made the worst decisions.
Yeah, everybody gets confused right after I get it
because it's this little roller coaster of your hair looking good and then looking bad and then starting
to look good again. And I've always had to like kind of talk people down like of my other friends
who've got it. I'll be like, listen, don't worry about how it looks right now. Just give it a few
months. You're going to be okay. And then just wait the eight months to 12 months and then you'll be
like, ah, there we go. But yeah, I'll be honest. When I looked after two months, I was like,
it's worse for me because I chose this time. I was like, I don't care. I'm just going to let it
heel on camera. I'm going to let it look bad on camera. I just don't care. I'm just going to let it
do its thing. And people are commenting every day being like, why would you go get a hair
transplant if it was going to look worse? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I just had to ignore it. I'm like,
okay, you'll see, you'll see. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it's hard when you see it like that stage.
It's very important. The process, the first three months don't expect anything. We tell to people,
don't look too much to the mirror. Don't look too much to the mirror. And don't forget
that's the deepest, that's the lowest result
what you see on the first three months.
But after 8 to 12 months, you see the change,
you see the outcome.
Yeah.
I have, shout out to my friend.
It's long term.
It's a long waiting time, to be honest.
Oh, yeah.
But that it is what it is.
I have a friend who got one,
and now he's wearing his hair back in a man bun.
Oh, there you guys.
And I'm like, I don't know if that's a good idea,
because that's like a pretty stressful haircut on your hair, right?
Like, it's pulling out of it, like, pretty hard.
It makes like, we call it like, mechanic hell.
loss.
Yeah.
If you pull too much to the back, you can stress the hair and get thinner and can receive.
Yeah.
I'm sure he's thought about it.
But yeah, for anybody who's interested, we'll have all the information in this video as well
as in the description about how they can get in contact and book a trip to get a hair
transplant from Dr. O'Car and Cosmetica.
Thank you so much to Kieran Lee for being possibly the best ambassador you could ever ask for.
Yeah.
He turned me on to your services as well as a bunch of other people in the industry and everything.
So, yeah, I mean, I feel like for anybody out there, I've just had so many questions about it over the years that I'm happy that I can be able to kind of point people at this and say, listen, if you're interested, this is where you go figure it out.
It's like you said, you hit it.
We're only here for one life.
You want to look your best, enjoy it.
Exactly.
Crack on.
And that's how I look at it now.
And for men, I mean, you mentioned women, they make so many operations.
right yeah so many different but for men the most biggest accessories is the
hair yeah it's the it's the confidence give the confidence don't get the Drake abs get
the Kiran Lee hairline yeah yeah so yeah I even got his abs I embraced the dad thought
oh man all right thank you so much uh for filling in our viewers about everything and thank you
to kieran for for letting us know about his experience it was very nice to be in in L.A
It's a very nice place.
Oh, yeah.
And thank you so much.
And just so you guys know, he's so dedicated to the grind of making your hair look better
that he's only in L.A. for one day.
And then he's right back to them.
Less than 24 hours.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Pretty impressive.
Magic.
All right.
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