No Jumper - ALLBLACK on Almost Quitting Music, Fatboy Baby Mama Drama, The Hoff Twins & More

Episode Date: February 22, 2024

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No Jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. It's 522. That is a coincidence. I was just looking at it to see what time it was, but we got a 22. Adam, I was 22 before you, I believe. Pulled that in. I believe I was 22 before you, Adam.

I've been Adam 22 since 1999. 1990? Maybe 2000. Got you beat. I'm from 22nd of Philly or Oakland, California. But did you relate to that? number from birth no my granddad live on 22nd for you mm 20 22nd I always been murdered the 20 second then I must salute you as my 22

OG 22 up here you got 22 like me I told you just last time where you got it what's on I got a lot of ink oh yeah right there right there yeah yeah I got some places I fuck with that but also I feel like I don't necessarily want to be like celebrating myself on my own body. Yeah. Like I'm a superhero. Yeah, I do a lot. Yeah, but you're a rapper.

I do a lot. I had this before I ever rap. I had, man, I had this in 2011. I had 22 on my forehead in 2011. Before I was a rapper, I had seven tattoos on my face. Hmm. How old do you know? 31.

I'd be 30. Two, March 22, 21st. I guess like when I was younger, It was easier to justify wanting to get tattoos because I just had so many passionate ideas coursing through my veins. And as I get older, it's more like when I have somebody like offer me tattoos.

I'm like, I can't even think of what the fuck I would want to get at this point in my life. I just don't. I've settled into more of a normal life. I'm not about to get the no jumper back tat. Which if I was 21 right now, for show, I would have a no jumper on some I have a basketball talk.

Yeah, basketball right. Big basketball on my back. I was 15. I was getting tired by the Mexican. I was 15 years old. I was skipping school to go get blasted by the Mexican. Really? Yeah, we are.

That was their hustle at this time? Mm-hmm. I used to get tatted by a gangbanger, a Serenio, in West Oakland. Mm. I used to get tired of Serenio on West Oakland. He used to blast me. Blast all my partners.

It was getting tatted, but I was skateboarding. I was doing all the type of shit I was getting inked up I was inked up hell early all this the leg inked up yeah that is the weird thing listening to tell your life story

because it's like you seem like you're doing real good in school like you've got a lot of extracurricular activities you're very much a man of the culture there's a lot of things you're interested in but then also read between the lines seems like you're also getting into some dodgy

if you will running around Tomato, tomato. Doing your thing. But I like a man of culture like that. Making it happen, me, you know, scratching the surface. Got to make it happen. But I'm in a better, I'm in a better head space now, though.

Way better hair space. But I'm older. I take pride in being the older. 31. I take pride in that. To the youth. Talking to the young. Doing it, though, like being hollering at them,

talking to football. Like, kids, probably on a football team. and high school teams. I've been doing that. I just feel better now, like, because I'm in a better headspace, you know what I mean? I can say I give them, I remind them more than I give them game. You know what I mean?

Remind them or what versus game? Of who they are, you know what I mean? And what this is I'm with? And, you know, of course, the kids, they look at me, and they're like, oh, a rapper, I want to be a rapper. I'm not just a rapper. I'm a father, too. I'm not just a father, you know what I mean?

I'm a man before anything. I'm a gentleman. before all that, you know what I mean? I'm a lot, man. I'm a lot. I'm a teacher. I'm a coach. You know what I mean?

I like to look at myself as the college coach. It's still very important for you to have that sort of role in the community? Hell yeah. Hell yeah, for sure. I don't never miss a beat with doing it, though. It's just always been me. My mama told me that. My mom always told me I was going to be a coach.

Always. Interesting. What do you think has changed with kids these days versus the type of kids that you grew up around? Social media, they don't gotta go outside. I mean, they don't go outside a lot. You know what I mean? Just what they, what they, you know what I mean, their goals, you know what I mean? It's kind of different.

There's not a lot of physicality to it. You know, really, kids nowadays or the teenagers, it's not a lot, a lot of physical with them. It's not, you know what I mean? It ain't really physical ed with them. It's more like in the house, da, da, da, da, da, where it is, pop out. Kids don't even go to the movies no more.

Like, just pop out all their partners go to the movies. Hop on the bus, man, I got Uber's, all that. Like, it's just, I look at that, but I know, you know, time has changed, you know. Yeah, and it's like the ease of use of technology combined with the fact that we're all basically, like, petrified of what's going on outside because we're so tuned in to everything that's going on in the community where it used to be that somebody could get shot or whatever. and it just you read about it in the newspaper.

It doesn't feel like it's hitting close to home in the same way. Now you hear people talking about letting your kid go play outside like it's a fucking suicide mission because that same person just watched two people get shot on Twitter that morning. And that is going to faint their idea of what the world is. The reality is that I believe the world's, you know, the number of shootings, the amount of violence is actually kind of in decline in the majority of America,

even though it might not feel that way because we're presented with it so much on a daily basis. Right, right. Yeah, I definitely, I can definitely agree with you on that part. I just looked at the crime rate. For example, I was looking at the Oakland crime rate, and I don't even want to say today, but it was 2006 or something. It was way more spankings.

It was way more killings than what it is now. Right. The murder rate was ridiculous, and I'm like, damn. As I'm reading it, I'm like, damn, I remember. Damn, that's wild. Yeah, it's way more. It was way more. Yeah, because now they got your phone information.

They got cameras everywhere. Ping that motherfucker. Ping your cell phone. You watch, like, old movies. It just forces you to think, like, Jesus Christ, it must have been fucking easy. Like, how did anyone get caught? Yeah, literally.

How did anyone get caught doing anything? All that was pay phones. Phones was not a necessity. Like, you can't do shit without a phone. As you see, people can't do shit with you. they phone. Take that motherfucker to the bath and they take it everywhere.

iPhone's charging longer, too. I want to, like, have my kid not have a phone for as long as humanly possible, but you just also wonder, like, how long are you going to be able to sort of dangle that in front of them and be like, listen, no. But I know that they make, like, special types of phones now that, like, are only able to do a couple of things

so that you can get in touch with your kid, but they're not able to get on Instagram or whatever with it, which I personally feel like just letting your kids go wild on Instagram is a massive error. Like, this shit made your kids up in the head. Man, it looks like it's designed like that. I even go see my daughter at school when she's in kindergarten.

And they big on the... Daddy, I have to bring my headphones. I need a new set of headphones. And I'm like, man, what is these headphones for? Like, you know, and I get into class and they all got tablets. You in kindergarten, everybody got tablets. Yeah. And I'm like, okay, maybe it's like that because, you know, she got an iPad at home.

I mean, everything is all this. It's that. Like, what the fuck? To me, like, when I, like, it's just so jarring when I put the TV on and I see what happens to my kid's brain where she just straight up turns into it just, you know, the fucking brain just melts. And it's like sometimes, like, I won't see my kid for a couple days. I come home. The TV's on.

Yeah. She'll like celebrate me coming home for a couple seconds, but then it's right back to the TV. They can't even enjoy the best in life, which is like not seeing your dad for a couple of days. You're supposed to be fully in that moment, but the TV just saps all of their attention. With the iPad sitting right there with the cell phone.

It's the iPad, the cell phone. TV blasting. You got the TV hanging off the wall. They doing, man. It's just everything touching everything. Hey, Daddy. I don't play that. I get to the dough.

I get to the door. I need my sugar. I tell my baby off the dribble, give me my sugar. Oh, I'm tripping on the whole house. She's no to run up on me. I need my big hug. I need my kiss on the cheek. Who you sit with us?

Who you sit with at lunch today? Yeah. Who did you sit with that lunch? Oh, I sat with, do, da, da, da, da. Okay, what did they eat at lunch? What did they eat? I want to know what they ate. You know what I mean?

I start diving instead of going, how was school? Did you learn anything today? No, no, no, no. What did you eat? What did your friends eat? That is smart because people told me that you're, kind of asking to get, like, bad responses from your kid if you ask very open, general questions,

like how was school? Right. But you ask specific things like, what were you eating, when you eat for lunch, what kids do you sit with? Right. You're going to get them to actually, like,

divulge some more interest in shit, because their brain is not tuned to, like, be able to explain the entirety of their day, you know? I see it puts a smile on her face, too. Like, I take her to school every day. I take her to school every day, and I pick her up. If I'm not OT,

every single day I'm taking her to school, And I'm picking her up. And I'm talking to her teacher every single day. So, you know, I'm kind of tapped in and seeing what's going on. But I like to let her tell me. I like to let her tell me. I like to let her brain, let it start squandering. What's going on?

Right. You know what I mean? Oh, okay, cool. You left your jacket at school. Okay, cool. Okay. What color was her jacket? Oh.

All I had a jacket on? I just start diving in. Because, all right, like, me, I think the blessing for me is that I was very early. on understanding the internet and social media. I feel like the average kid now, that's the default. All these kids are going to be good at social media. They're all going to understand the internet.

The thing that's going to make a kid stand out is the kid who has some street smarts to them who has enough human interaction to be able to actually like handle situations. You know what I'm saying? Like to be able to actually like, like the dude who actually learns how to really speak to people

is going to be the one who's able to make a girl like him when he gets older. You know, the kid who's just constantly online is not going to have that skill set. I typed in, they're going to look out on my big computer and I got to look at that and not even to just drag off. It was Christmas time. And I looked on the list and it was, you know,

of course, she's only six. So you know what? Let me try something different. But your kid being six, my kid's three. So you got three years of experience. The next three years of my life is going to be shit that you already navigated. Get her a bike.

Get her a scooter and get her skates. Make her rotate all of those At least twice a week She has to touch at least one of those Twice a week We ain't going for it And that TV off at 6 You sleep at 7

Right You sleep at 7 So you got from school When you get out From 2.35 You know what I mean To you getting home Doing home

Where you eating you washed up All that all the milletrains That's off Have baby get outside And touch that scooter Or that bike Or those roller skates You know what I mean

Let them feel outside. Let them feel what it's like. That was the first time I see my baby fall. Really? It was crazy. That's important, though. Yeah. And she dares.

She's like, ow, she ain't never felt it. She's a real girly girl. I said, baby, look, if you don't get up, I'm going to throw the bike in the trash. Throw the bike away. It's no need it because you're going to fall on the bike. You're going to fall. She got right back up,

and then really put a smile on her face. I'm like, man, I never thought that happened with how this world's set up. Kids don't ride bikes. I don't see kids riding bikes. I see them fresh as hell. They don't get their shoes dirty no more. It don't go like that.

Right. I don't got to buy shoes a lot. Yeah. It's like food, too. If you fucking fill your house with Pop-Tarts and cereal, your kid's never going to go for the broccoli. You got to limit the options so that the options, they feel like they have options,

but it's actually within a relatively limited sphere. That's important to me, too. But it's like, even with us really going out of our way to control what our kid eats, it's still like just they go to their friends' house one time. and they get some, you know, like even my kid just stayed with my sister for a couple days. Spoil. She's feeding her pancakes with whipped cream on them for dinner and shit.

My kid asked me for pancakes for dinner. Hell of times. I'm like, no, we don't need pancakes for dinner. Straight up. They're just letting her have whatever she wants. She's rolling with her. They're like, man, nah, this auntie, auntie waves. It's good.

So what's, I feel like when me and you get together, it's not as much an interview. It's a sit down to determine where we're at in life, as opposed to, you know, two, three years ago when we did the last one. What's the major changes in all black that you could identify over the past couple years? Learning how to say no. Learning how to say no.

Getting more tapped in with myself. Being more, you know, I've always loved myself at him. You know what's hadn't. Like, I've always been that type of person, but, like, getting more. tapped in with myself keeping it more real. You know what I mean? With myself getting around people that I can learn from.

For real, and I'm not just always teaching. You know what I'm? You know what I mean? Sometimes I need to get the game. Sometimes I need them reminders. You know what I mean? More of the time I need them reminders. You know what I mean?

I need that. You know, that's what's been up. Just loving more of the music instead of like just loving the feel of what's going on like you know I mean loving the music more I was at um you know I was with Empire for a real long time oh okay so that's not a thing anymore no I'm with create okay would create music group down here in LA it's a wonderful feeling but I'm also savers I'm also savers music group it's my big brother Jada up okay Oakland California that's why I got him with me you know I mean he's intro of my boy

how long y'all been working together year and a half but there's been big brough like years you know I mean like he was always no he's the he was always he always at his hands and stuff he was the artist before as well I mean with all he was with walker flaka he's boy he's with a lot of people I can name drop for a long time but he was as Oakland as an Oakland artist like he was this stable you know I mean like he was the he was the image that when we was coming up we we wanted to look like and we wanted to feel like he was doing the shit early 2013 and 14s, like, he was always doing it.

And I ended up getting a chance to get with him a year and a half, almost two years ago in New York. Mm-hmm. I stopped doing the music, Adam. This was after I seen you. I ended up going to New York. You're both from Oakland, but you didn't meet him until you were in New York randomly?

No, no, I met him. I've been met him years ago, but I'm talking about I locked in with him. We always got the, you know what I mean? We got the same circle, like, you know what I mean? Um, but I end up locking in with him in New York, for real. like the real way.

Staying with him, playing madden all night. Like, he caught me in a time when I was at my lowest. Like, I was in my lowest. I was depressed, you know what I mean? Like, I was going through a lot. What got you there? Just moving fast, following, like, relationships, like, that I never thought I'd never end. Like, you know what I mean?

Like, telling my, you know, for the first two times ever, like, and they didn't like that. You know what I mean? And me not understanding. and that's how I go. You tell them my... Depending on who it is, you know what I mean. Go sour. And I was in the f***-up headspace.

I was very... Like, you know, I'm not... I'm not the loud... You know, I'm not the jewelry, shiny, flexing $200,000. I've never been that. I know that. So, have you never seen me...

If I'm always flexing the money and then I stop flexing it, you know, of course, everybody would be like, what's going on? If I was never that type of person, And I always got a smile on my face. You'll never know what the fuck going on with me for real. So he caught on to that, though.

Man, something ain't right. Like, niggas love black. It's always with black. You know what I mean? Black always with, you know what I mean? I black by itself, you feel me? And he just, like, put me up under his wing, and then it was just over after that.

Like, he got me back right, shook me back. Got me up. Like, I wouldn't off no drugs. And nothing like that I wouldn't. I wouldn't, I wouldn't, nicking, no money and no d'clock. and no corny shit like that, you know what I mean? I was just going through a lot. I couldn't believe that, you know, the people around me

was just blowing up on me. Right. You know, niggas just left me. Oh, it would have been equivalent. I'm somewhere in Long Island City, Queens. I'm somewhere. I'm in Manhattan, and I'm in the Bronx at the Yankees game by myself and all type of shit.

Something ain't right. Put me up under his wing, and then he shook me back, taught me the business. taught me about my music. I ain't know about my music. I ain't know about streaming. I ain't know how many views I had. I ain't know how much money I had,

how much I was worth. I didn't know shit. I was just always the team player. Just because the Empire thing had kind of shielded you from that? No, hell no. That was amazing. Okay.

Love them to death. Like, I love them to death. I love everything they did from the other. But you were letting them handle a lot of the business side? Yeah, like my team. I let my team have to, I wasn't really like, I didn't give a fuck. I'm getting bread.

Like, I'm getting bread. I'm not getting worked. I'm not getting worked. I'm not getting over. You know what I mean? None of that shit. I'm like, man, I'm cool. But when we separated, I looked up and I'm like, I don't, I don't even know how to post a video on my own video on YouTube.

Like, I don't even streaming. Like, what the fuck is that? Like, Spotify, he sat down and showed me everything, walked me through everything. He beat it in my head. Like, nigga, you know. He couldn't believe that I didn't. know this like you know what I mean he was like huh all right little bro check this out let's go back to the drum boys you really really went he didn't even want to manage me at first it was just awesome

like you my little brother like I'm gonna get you right he really didn't care about it but I kept going like bro I don't know this bro he's looking at me really don't know this on shows and you packing shit I'm doing on with you like no so he dug in and went to go get to go get all my, went to go get all that. He did everything. He went to Empire. He went to everywhere to go get all my send me down, taught me the game. He even though I mean. He still teaching me the game to today.

He don't miss a day. Me and him talk every day. Every single day, every trip you see me anywhere you see me, bro with me. You feel me? Or I'm with him. So did you lose the passion for music and then leave Empire? Did you leave Empire kind of in the midst of you sort of losing the passion for a while there? Nah, it was when I was still empire and everything was going on. Everything was hitting me. I'm going, getting into it with people.

My people, they're not handling my business. They're not trying to answer the phone for me. I want nothing to do with me, for real. And, you know, I'm like, then I reach out, you know, and they're like, hey, we don't supposed to be running this. You're supposed to have somebody running this, running that. So he just picked up my, he went and picked up all my shit, bro. Like, my shoe wasn't just all the way scattered.

It was all over the place. Feel him? He just went to go get me right, man. He just cleaned up a lot of shit. He was just like, man, I know some people, bro. My little brother, Cato, he got the huge record. He had the huge record go off. He had that record.

He manages him, too. Okay. So he already, you know what I mean? He was in talks with creating new him. He knew hell of people. He in New York running a hell of plays. You know everybody in New York. Like, you snicking the people all over the place.

He just made a few calls. Asked me if that's what I really want to do. He sat around me for a minute, learn me. Let me see how serious this nigga is before I take him serious. The rest is on, bro. It's interesting because when we did the last interview, you were talking about how this documentary was about to come out about you. And the documentary comes out,

and it makes it, like, extremely clear the connection that you have to where you're from. the people and how much you care about the culture as well as like the the young kids and everything the documentary is fucking dope but then you're telling me that part of why you like fell out love with the music and and got into a weird headspace was like realizing that you had to say no and that you couldn't really like be helping everybody along the way which i feel like a huge percentage of rappers end up having that realization like so many times i've been watching an interview with the rapper or doing the interview and i just hear them say you know yeah this is about my people like I'm not trying to be the one with money I'm trying to help my whole team come up and

stuff and it's a noble goal but the reality is is that usually along the way those people figure out that you're probably going to have to be selfish to some degree man it was like I had looked up and I'm you right I'm looked up and I'm like I didn't really teach niggas how to fish I didn't know how to fish you know I mean I'm gonna teach niggas something I don't know you know you know I don't know how to teach niggas how to fish. I just know how to give. You know what I mean? I just know how to give.

I know how to do, you know what I mean? And the few people you do tell no to and they react. I mean, they can crush you. It crush you deep. And I mean, you never expecting this. And then there's other people who help and handle your business. It ain't even about you telling them no. It's just about them.

You know what I mean? They got this way. They want to go this way. And I'm going this way. But we was all going this way. You want to go this way. Not wrong with that. Still love you to death, you feel me?

But dead stock in the middle. Let go. You know what I mean? It was a gamble, bro. You just sit there. You got all this money. You got all this love, all this attention. You know what I mean?

But you're really empty. You're looking around. You're like, I don't even know how to book a show. I don't even like, what the fuck? Like, everybody from the outside looking there, and they don't know some like, no, bro, like God. Like this and this and that. there but I'm just I'm an honest nigga I'm not enough enough you know I mean you

you the man you do that you know I mean you you do that oh you run that I'm not I don't want to hear it I don't want to hear about all this now I knew where my money was going definitely mm-hmm of course you know but as far as the cooking this up and setting this up and doing I ain't know nothing about that and I couldn't tell you nothing but I couldn't tell you I couldn't tell you how to sign in to this shit man I never had Spotify on my phone you know And bro, came through and just, you know who you are? Like, you know what you got?

Like, he doctored me back. I don't know he was doing it, though. I really didn't know he was doing it. You know what I mean? But it was, it's a blessing, right? It shook me back. It took some months, shook me back. We went to create, got on the ball.

She just taught me how to hustle. He taught me how to hustle. Bray, you got to get back outside. You got to make them love you again. You took a brother. break, bro, you took a deep break. This ain't times you can take breaks. He taught me how to, he basically, like, put me back out there and was like, man, make,

you all make them love you again, do that shit you do, do that all that all them, all them, all them raging ass shows you got all the mosh pits and all that. No, no, no, no, get back out there and do that. But he prepped me, groomed me before I got out there. You know what I mean? I had to get my spunk back, you know? and it was over. I caught on pretty fast, though.

You know what I mean? Once I felt that love and seeing how far I can go with this shit, it was over with it. I just locked in, Savers University. I came Savors University, you know what I mean? Then I came and create. Because, like, when you first start, your career has a bunch of momentum

just off the fact that you're new, or, like, when you first start to, like, really get attention in the media and shit like that, and that is its own thing, and that works for some people, they're able to just kind of have a consistent trajectory going up from when they start making music, but the reality is, is that for a lot of people,

at some point, they kind of have to, like, once that sheen wears off of them, the whole idea of, like, oh, this is this young, new kid, and he's interesting, we want to know about him, we want to know who he doesn't like, and we want to know, we want to see his first interview. Once you've done a bunch of interviews, once you put out a bunch of records and stuff,

it really becomes the music, who you are as a person, how you can kind of, like, mobilize fans and shit, but it becomes a lot more difficult to entice people. A lot of artists' first record, if you really look at it outside of the fact that it's their first record, it's nothing special,

but if it's their introduction to the world, there's kind of like an inherent virality associated with that. That's a fake. That's a fake. And I got and felt that too. I'm like, damn, man, I've been running plays. I mean, I didn't did the Jimmy Kimmel's. I didn't went four tours.

I didn't came Jack Harlow. I tore it with Jack Harlow I tore it with Damasi Torre by myself I didn't did it And I was just like I got to a point Like when I'm in New York

Like man is this it Like For an hour I'm like Is this it Like Is this it And I remember the day

I went over there And played mad And with him That little brother Like FaceTime My little brother What fuck you doing

Like You open the dark I'm like Hell no I'm chilling Like I'm chilling You know what I mean?

You know what I mean? I'm trying to give it off. He's like, Lord, bro, you're in the dark. Little brother, come play mad. Come play mad with me real quick. Like, let me, you play me weak. Niggas can't fuck with me. When I go get my homes and them niggas, I go get Travis Belsie. Like, he just, he gassed me up to get to the, oh, he knew where.

I'm going to tell Taylor Swift that you just did that to her man. Travis Belsie. Yeah, took me a second to catch on there. That's what he called him, man. So we get in that. He like, me, can play mad. And I didn't, you know, at the time, you know, you're down, you're in this, this space. You know, ain't know what's going on.

I'm just like, oh, all right, cool. I'm in the Airbnb in New York. I go over there, I catch Uber over there and I sit over there. And I would just tell you, like, go out of, like, leave and shit. Man, we played Maddie for about a month or two months until the sun came up. But while we're playing Madden, he, hey, you know about this, you know about here, or he'll turn it off. He'll show me young boy He'd show me

He'd show me this He'd like, bro, these niggas is hustling Look I love my little brother But you niggas want to drop one One project a year Like that ain't accumulating no money Like he taught me how to make the money

It's the same way Grito was teaching me It was the same way Draco was teaching me Like you feel me Drop drop drop drop drop drop drop drop drop drop drop Man drop that shit You feel me So you get this money coming in bro

You know you hustle He taught me how to hustle He like look bro look what the fuck So he'll show me what I got And he showed me like, bro, how the fuck is these artists this big? And they hustling like this. Got to get out there, bro, you're not big enough. And he always kept a real with him.

But you're not big enough to be moving like this and move like that. It wasn't that. Like, I needed to stone code truth. I needed to feel that. That's how I thrive. That's how I like to be coached. I need the butt-naker truth, man, give it to me raw. I need to know what's going on, feel me?

So I can really excel. I can get out there and get right. I mean, like, there's a lot of different things that you can be. potentially do with that momentum as an artist and stuff where a lot of artists let's be real a lot of artists their rapping is basically just like an accent upon their gangster persona slash street career we know a lot of people they got a couple music videos maybe even a couple million views on some of that shit but realistically that music video is damn near a fucking advertisement for them shipping packs

Few niggas came to my hand when you said that. Few niggas. But then on the other hand, you've flirted with having big-ass records and going on tour with these dudes that are gigantic and seeing what it is to have a real music career because you could very easily have kind of fell into the place of just doing your thing,

not caring about the marketing, not caring about the networking, et cetera. Or you could take a look at a Jack Harlow and think like, all right, maybe I'm not Jack Harlow, but I definitely got something. I could definitely. keep tweaking this shit and try to make the best version of

the records that I can. That's a fact. I looked at that. I looked at it, bro. I used to talk to his role manager all the time, and it don't quote me, but it took him about five or six years to get home. Oh, yeah. Even when I interviewed him

2018, 2019, you could almost kind of feel it at that point that he had like a nervousness that he didn't know this definitely was not a sure thing in his mind. He had been grinding for a long time. He had been sending Cole Bennett his shit for years at that point. And then finally, like when I interviewed him

was when he first got a video on Cole Bennett's shit and finally Cole had agreed, oh, I'll do this song because I fuck with this song. It was clear that he had sent him a bunch of songs over the years that Cole wasn't really fucking with. And so, like, you know, everybody might... I see YouTube videos where people talk about Jack Carlin like he's an overnight.

One hit one to their sensation. No. They don't see the ground. Man, I see the shit firsthand. Once it pays off, they don't see it. And I watched it firsthand. I went on 20-some dates with him. him and Drewski.

Juski too funny. He was bringing the year. He was bringing the y'was bringing niggas out. Like, he was bringing niggas out every fucking night. Every night, bro. I didn't really, I didn't really put stamp to, stamp to, stamp to respect on him until we went to Louisville. We went to Louisville.

And I seen, and he did them, uh, hid them home shows two days back to back. I said, oh, they better stop playing with Disney. They got to stop playing with him. He's ready to go. As soon as he got off tour, he dropped, what's happening with, uh, with the baby or something. He comes, bam, then he comes, bam, then he comes, bam.

I'm talking to him. I'm like, boy, it's happening. I'm like, it's happening. He's like, it's happening. He's like, it's happening. I'm like, oh, yeah, it's up. Yeah. It's up.

I locked him and, him and G. Oh, yeah. He was in the strip club, like, 3 o'clock in the morning. Locked him. Them niggas went up. Moana. Jules for him. I'm like, oh, yeah, you won't.

After that, smoothsail. He went all the way to fuck up. Now I look at Jack. I'm like, damn, man, that's crazy. Like, if he would have stopped after tour, you know, I mean, he would have stopped at that. I looked at that. Like, I think about a lot of this shit. Like, damn, man, I'd be feeling like I was, oh, this was my peak.

Or this was that, like, no, hell, no, I'm fondly comfortable. So what level could you kind of see yourself get into, or when you make music, what's, like, the upper echelon outcome from that? And it's really, Adam, there's really no limit with me, bro. really no limit I'm shooting for the motherfucking stars I ain't lying with you I'm shooting for the stars man

I just want to get comfortable I want to get busy and really really score with this shit out but I had to learn the business side to it too like I was just throwing shit at the wall hoping it stick now I'm learning the business

I'm getting saucy so now I know like how I really want to come at this shit you know what I mean like I didn't feel I can say I didn't feel all all corners of this shit for real. I didn't feel. I'm talking about being on the biggest stage, you know what I mean,

doing the, and then doing the crazy festivals and then doing the 250-300-cap rooms, you know what I mean, or being the fucking with the celebrities. And I mean, I didn't feel all that of the artists, you know what I mean? But I'm just like, damn, how I want to shape mine now. And I feel like that's what I'm on. My new project is called Slow Motion Better Than No Motion. It actually dropped two days. It dropped February 2nd. Right. Like half the songs are on a... iTunes right now, not half, maybe a third. Yeah, probably five of them.

We have five of my five videos. I slow motion better than no motion. I want to get there. I look at my niggas spitter all the time. I like that run. Like, you know what I mean? I start looking like, man, that run is so fucking fire. Look at baby face Ray.

I'm like, that run is so fire. You know what I mean? And I love with V's doing until I look at his run. I'm like, man, that run is fire too. And then I sit there. I sit back and I'd be like my favorite. Every run ever is the Wigska leaf run. Really?

In terms of just the career that he built for himself. How he came. He had the whole fucking world in the frenzy, like, cargo shorts, t-shirt, glad, you know what, I mean, snapbacks, like, like, and it's not just what he, what that was. It was just how he made the world feel, like, you know what I mean? And I felt like I did that more with the whole Trinity run, like, mixing the Patron with the Hennessy, being the Rocks, or everybody being on that type of time, you know, raising upside down, throwing the big parties

and being an all-black, you know what I mean, being that all-black person. You know what I mean? I feel like this one, and I look at, okay, what chapter? How I want to come now? How I want to be on this shit. So I feel like I'm transitioning into it.

Like, I'm ready to fucking go, though. I don't feel like I got to do hell of shit. You know, I mean, just to get on, man, I know the love. I feel the love already. Now I'm comfortable. You know what I mean? I want to do it my way. I want to do it the savers way.

Yeah. Ready to go up. Wherever it takes me this time, I want to run it. So what's Savers? That's the movement that you already had going when you started working with him? Yeah, I got a weed strand with rents. Okay. Sabers.

So I made it into a label. Like he said, I got Cato under that label too, Kato. And then Black. We got Black over there. And, yep, that's the Savers. That's what we're pushing Sabers University. For sure. Are you the only one who tapped them with Walker Falka for that feature on the new tape?

For sure. That's a big bro. We, Wockers, been in the hood. What deal was that, bro? We, uh, came hot now. 2013 or something? Waka, been coming to West Oakland. Ben fucking with him, like, Wocker, man, Walker did so much saucy shit.

He didn't show me, so much saucy shit. No, that was dope, yeah. He didn't show me so much raw-ass shit. I didn't watch Waka his run. It's amazing. Bro. Just to see him and his kid, I see his run.

And I fucking love his run. I hate that. I left that out. I say this all fucking all day. Like, I want to be like, bro, I want to run that play. Like, bro, he do the colleges. He do two colleges or a college a week.

You know what I mean? You go to them colleges, brother. He rage with him, bro. He fucking rage. That's interesting. It's amazing. Who is that Texas University, Doug? Last time I talked to Walker Farahaw.

He gave me an inspirational NFT speech. He told me you ain't even going to do interviews anymore once you get into this NFT shit. Nicar is smart. That's a little bit. I guess he made a shitload of money at one point regardless.

He does. These niggas is like how you and how you and Desto moving? Y'all just throw It's like that, but he's like, that's his brother.

That's his big brother. Like, that's his big brother. Like, call that nigga all day. Like, you know, they talk all the time. He always dropping gyms. Like, when he told me I was saucy, I lost it. Like, what? Even though I know, you know, he tapped in with him, that's his boy,

but when he told me I was saucy, I was juice. Like, I was juice. I couldn't wait to run with him on the track, man. It was amazing, bro. Hell of fun. Hell of fun with that, nigga, bro. He always giving me hell a game. For sure.

Stupid game. But did you tap in with Walker in real life to do that? Or was that through email, the song? The song? Yeah. No, no, no. It was through the email. He sent it through the email.

I was already with him. Like I said, we was up in Houston. Me and him drove down. We were in Houston. We drove down to Austin to go fuck with him. We always plays. He always with him, but we locked in. He flew down out here.

We shot the video out here. What's your spirit? spiritual connection to Houston. You just talk about it, like, it's like, you got a real foundation there. Here you go. What are you talking about? I love Houston.

I fucking love Houston. Rick baby always out there too. I love everything about it. They're amazing, bro. My big homie book. My big homie book, he out there, my, uh, his son, little Jay Ross, fuck, you fucking animal.

I'd be out there with him, man. I'll be out there just chilling with my people. You know, bending a little knees and playing with little elbows and doing a little, doing a little young jogging. Really? Yeah. Definitely. Young jocke. You love Texas?

Could you see yourself moving there? Hell yeah. I want to go to, I want to live to Sugarland. I live in Katie. Five, bro. Like. You don't fuck with Houston? I fuck with it.

I can't, like, it's kind of depressing to have. so much family in LA now. It's like I'm never gonna be able to leave. But I see Joe Rogan doing it and all these fucking people. And I'm like, damn, way less than taxes, really like big open spaces. You can buy a house with a fucking shitload of land. You don't even go there just to party.

Like, you don't go there just to go? It's been a few years. But I'm gonna go back. The last time you went, what you do? Dallas 2019, Juice World Show. Mo three got arrested outside of it. Houston, I haven't been to. I did a maxo cream tour in 2018.

I feel like I might not have been to Houston since then. When you land, we're taking you to area 29. Is that a strip club or? Eat breakfast and that motherfucker, I don't. Really? It's a movie. I hate eating breakfast or any kind of food in the strip club, though, because the lights are always real low and you can't see the food.

I feel like that kind of kills. No, this motherfucker's saucy. Okay. You're going to like Area 29. You're going to like it. Okay, as long as we're talking geography. We hear a lot about how Northern California all fucked up. Obviously, an emphasis on San Francisco and shit.

Do you feel it out there? Like with the crime being out of control and the bippin and the tourists getting robbed left and right and the open air fentanyl markets and the prostitution being legalized? I hear all this crazy shit. Me and bro, tell them how you feel about it, bro. We really just had this. How you feel about it, bro? How you feel about it?

Go ahead. It's, man, Keith Lee came out there, man. They ran him out of town. Oh, man. Keith Lee came out there, man. I love Keith Lee. Guap Dad was mad as fuck. Guwop, my nigger.

On Twitter, he was not hyped on that way now there. Yeah, he was. I love guap, man. Great guy. And from the same hood, Acorn. Oh, really? Yeah, but I'm like, really, I feel it, bro. I go out there, but I got a lot of, like, you know, I got a lot of love, bro.

I go places, bro. I'm still pulling up to places. I'm still going. I'm going, bro, I'll pop out, right. I land,

hop in Uber's, go hop in a rental. I'm moving around, bro, like, it's just fucked up, though. It's fucked up. It's a lot going on,

but it's fucked up everywhere, bro. I'm just... Oh, yeah, I said the same thing by L.A. I just know how to move,

you know what I mean? I know how to move around. I know how to do shit, but it's dangerous. It's dangerous than a motherfucker. I'll tell you that. L.A. Dangerous, too,

though. But the Bay, it's dangerous. You, I'll tell you right now, don't leave a car rolling, leave the windows down, you know what I mean,

and lock in with the right people. Don't land at the airport, get a rental, try to go to the dispensary, and all that. You're not going to make it to the hotel. Yeah. All your shit is going to be gone.

It's just not. And nobody's going to feel bad for you because when you tell us, it's like, what? That's kind of how it goes. Adam, you tell them that you got bipped. They're going to throw a parade.

Oh, my God, we bipped out of them. I told that nigga don't come out here. And they're going to, they deserve that glory. Because if I leave my fucking backpack with my computer in it in the car, in the Bay Area. Man, don't leave a sock. You're a sucker. Don't leave a sock right there. Don't leave no charges right there, nothing, but.

FYBJ Maine left his car with, like, hell of backpacks with cameras and all kinds of shit. Right here. And I'm like, listen, we may not have the bipping resume that they got up north. They're bipping out here too, though. Exactly. I mean, it's not a unique technology. Yeah, straight up north. They're doing it.

And this is a fucking touristy-ass area in comparison to most to L.A. So this is prime time right here. You don't think that there's people that wake up every day and just walk around trying to find something to take out here? It's crazy, bro. I'm talking about you can. They're hitting niggas at the light. Oh, man. You at the light.

Try through. They're hitting you. They don't give a fuck. Some of the videos. It's bad in the world right now. It's the world, man. It's bad. Like, money low.

Bread low, Adam. People ain't got it. I was talking to brother about it. We talk all the time. The money low, bro. People are hungry. They're desperate. They're not only hungry.

They're desperate. Feel me? All that Jay, niggas had all that this and this and all. They gave it back. He gave it back. You're trying to tell me that the artist you didn't seen, they still got the AJ. These niggas coming in here, acting like they tuck the shit,

that Jay gone. The first time I ever went to the Bay Area was in 2008, and this was after having lived in New York City for many years. At that point, New York City is one of the strictest cities in America in terms of, you know, undercovers will pop out on you for some shit that you had no idea there was a single person around. Like, you know, you, it's just like the easiest place to get caught up. Law and order, pretty strong in New York.

Not to say that there aren't people getting shot all the fucking time. Scariest place to have a blick in America, et cetera. But that first time I went to San Francisco, I remember just being like, oh, fuck, like, this is a pretty fucking lawless place out here. Everybody I was staying with had a pound under the dead. Everybody smoking, like, crazy in public. Homies selling weed in the park, not a care in the world. like no cops ain't gonna do shit etc but now like even channel 5 Andrew Callahan has a

fucking super viral video from San Francisco a couple weeks ago months ago yeah that just really like paints the picture how bad the Fent has gotten out there how bad the crime has gotten and it's so sad it's wild it's so sad bro you ride you ride through the tenderloins you ride through downtown SF bro you'll see about eight people you know you get up close on them they're standing up like this. Standing on, like, everybody's standing up, everybody's zombieed out.

Zombie land. Scary, bro. You've got to go, got to pass through that motherfucker when you're coming from the airport, so you've got to see it. You got to see it. They're not playing, man, that shit. That shit.

Ridgulous, bro. But as a dude who, you know, has done some business on the blade in his day, how does this all strike you? Is it, you know, fucking shit up? or is it kind of good for the people who are trying to make some money out there? I stay away from that shit.

I know you do now, but. It's just me. Like, I stay, you know, people got to get it out of they live. There's always restrictions with anything you're doing, with any crime you're doing, or anything illegal that you're doing, you know what I mean? Like, but I just see them.

They got fig more looked than anywhere. Fig is like a show. They have, they got Instagrams dedicated to the black. to Figaroa and stuff. Like, I'd just be looking now. Like, wow, I'm out of touch. Like, bro, I'll be, I'm out of touch. They can laugh at me all y'all want.

I'm out of touch, bro. People pull up to Fig and take photos that look like they should be in fucking Cosmo or Vogue of these chicks walking down the street. It's like such high-quality photos. Man, it looks like, it looks great. I'm like, sheesh. Like, it don't even, you know what I mean?

You would never think crime is there. You never think nothing is going on. But you got, it's so much. It's so much underage stuff from exploiting going on. Like, brought me, stay no thank you. Mr. No, thank you. I've had some people tell me that's the only shit the cops will really interfere with out there.

Is what? With the underage shit. Oh, man. But that, like, girls in general, you want to go sell pussy there? Like, you're never going to have a cop tell you to stop. My boy was telling me that, like, they let them do their thing. But I just, my, all that shit, man, I don't, you tell me, oh, it's love, it's green.

I don't even got the tools to go dumb no more I mean and be I don't even got it like bro I'm so I'm so in dad mode Adam bro I'm so dad up I'm turn I'm in dad mode I'm that's where my adrenaline when my rush at you feel me like that I'm trying to play with the music and I'm not twisting this on you either

like I want you to know for you I believe you yeah I want you to know where I'm in dad mode that shit gotta get old I'm playing what listen um you see me I'm in other states trying to win. I'm on all 10 trying to win. Outside posing to be chosen. Trying to win.

I love the music a lot, bro. I love the feedback. I get the responses. How everybody treat me. I never hear that you fell lost. I never hear the things. It's like every time I try that, like, damn, man, that nigga doing it again.

Never been the type to care about views. I'm not that type of person. On the hustle side, on the grind side. I would drop five videos to this person. persons one or two and we equal up and have the same amount. If you could go back in time to when you first popped off in 2017, 2018, whatever that was, how would you handle your career differently? What would you have done that you didn't have the foresight to necessarily be thinking about at that time?

I wouldn't, I would rather take, I would rather take the fade that my people was asking for when they was trying to teach me the game. and I didn't want to learn it like no I don't want to learn I don't care I don't care I care if I want to know that I don't take back nothing everything was amazing all of you know what I mean the ruins I didn't have all that was amazing but the business side if I would have learned the business side all them dope ass rooms and all them you know what I mean all them geniuses I was in the rooms I was in the rooms I set outside them doors and party and chilled and waited until they got done and you know what I mean if I would have said in those rooms I feel like I wish I could I mean if I was able to go back I go sit up in the rooms. I will have someone force me or I will force myself to sit in in the rooms and really learn. And I mean more about the business side to the music besides the fun side and the winds and all that. But you're not seeing no no ails. You're not lacking in no pockets straight. You know what I mean? Doing anything you want every single day, that type of shit is better. Yeah, because when you first get into the music business, there's just so much to

learn that it's literally like it's like going to college except you're not like focused on learning you're just kind of slowly picking shit up but it literally is going to take you like many many years for most people i remember even like when i first got into it trying to read a book like everything you need to know about the music industry and i picked up some good info from it but the average person you know you just kind of learn by trial of error because it's just not it's not easy to pick up on everything that's going on that's fact it's like the person that it's like the the person that's not Like the artist, they will pick up that book. Right.

You know what I mean? The artist, if he's an honorary frat boy, what the fuck he looked like reading that? But he's a nigga. You're famous for not exactly being the kind of guy who sits around reading books. You're famous for being a partying and a rapper. I'm a good time. Yeah, I'm the fucking frat boy.

It's love. It's love with everybody. Yes. It ain't no fights over here. Ain't nobody arguing and bickering. It's enough for everybody. I don't need you. peace up with me on nothing.

I don't, you got 10, you got 10, nah, just come. Bring yourself. I got everything you need. That's what I'm known for. I'm knowing for you. You come to my parties, you're going to leave. You're not going to come with nothing.

You're going to leave with something. Every time. So, you know what I mean? I don't want to be the frat. I mean, I love being a frat boy and the rager, but it's third quarter, you know what I mean? The year is in the. Definitely.

And now it's time to buckle down, knock the grades out, you know? Now I've got to limit it down to partying on Sunday and Monday Instead of partying Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. See, I would probably do Friday, Saturday if I had to pick. See, real rages, real rages, they rage on the weekdays. Really? You know this.

Well, I guess if your schedule's open enough, yeah. But I'll probably want to party at the same days that everybody else is partying. Fridays, I let all the rookies get that out. That's Friday. That's what Ricky's party. Ricky's party on Fridays. I drank enough that I got hung over two times already this year. Yeah.

That's a lot for me. In the first month of the year. Yeah. That's too much. I was just at my show. I had a little hornitos. Like cheap alcohol, I'm raised and cheap alcohol. Let's go.

I went to 42. Keep that for the niggas in the stands. I'm getting out here with the people. Yeah. You know, I'm known for that. I like to be with the people. I, uh, the most recent time I got fucking wasted too. Is that the strip club?

Me and my girl got a strip club hosting booking for the first time ever. Oh yeah, how'd that go? I mean, it was great, but I was having too much fun. I got fucking drunk. And then it's just like, you know, I'm in pain the whole next day. And I'm not used to that because I haven't really, like, partied like that in a while. And I'm just thinking like, all right, if you're going to keep doing this whole show-booking thing

or hosting thing. You got to pace. You got to pace yourself. Like, you got to pay yourself. Even if it's fake shots. Yeah. Even if you turn it all the way over, like, you just keep playing like this. You know what I mean?

Or you get your little buggy on or something like that. Why you just host get loaded after. You all I mean? Get loaded after. If you get loaded in that motherfucker, it's going to be hard. Yeah. I mean, I'm the kind of person where it's like, people be handing me shots, take a couple shots, and then it starts wearing off,

and then I start, like, really scouting for, like, anything left in these bottles. I got to get me a mixed drink. I'm going to do anything at this point. You start drinking anything after that other. I'll drink anything but vodka. Really? Hell yeah.

Yeah, vodka is old school. I'll go TT, I'll go cognate. Mix it. Definitely. There's been a whole conversation. in L.A., and I wonder I feel like it extends to the rest of California as well, about

does the sound of L.A. rap transfer to the rest of the country? Is L.A. just like, you know, permanently cold when it comes to the popularity of the artists and shit? Like, how do you feel about that? And is that ever a concern when you're recording? Like,

damn, maybe my sound is not necessarily a sound that's going to easily translate to the rest of the world. I feel like I think like that like, oh, will my sound translate to the world when I hear other music

when I hear other music and the music that I listen to all the time like it doesn't really sound like that I don't really feel like that when I'm recording because the music is my diary know what I mean? The music is my diary

and I'm having fun like, you know and I want to get this out I fucking love L.A. music I love L.A. culture. People tell me I listen to it too much. Really? I fucking love it.

I love it. Like, I love it. We cousins. We're down the street, you know what I mean? And they do get places. Like, you know what I mean? They like to say L.A. music is cold, this and this and that. But I listen to a lot of fucking music in a lot of places.

And you niggas took that from them niggas. You know what I mean? Also, the gang culture. Like, if y'all want to say, oh, L.A. cold with the music, or them niggas ain't this and this now. Y'all didn't take these niggas cold. Y'all took that and brought that somewhere else, too. Right.

You know what I mean? I'm not saying not everywhere it does it but like y'all took something from them y'all took something from them so how them niggas code how are they cold how are their music not hidden right you forgot about the o3 gritos you forgot about the wali the senseis you forgot about the don't butcher me on this like you forgot about the i.e. the r3 the chili men you forgot about like everybody bro you got a got forgot about the blue bus cland them niggas in a fucking building how are they not lit you know what i mean i can go for days I'm gonna make of a million people like everybody.

You know what I mean? I listen to a lot of them niggas. Everybody. I'm talking about nobody go left. Yeah. Everybody listen to them niggas. We forgot about the O.GIS. We got about the phoenixes.

We hear about it because this being an L.A. base platform, we will totally end up talking about L.A. rappers, like they fucking matter. And then we get reminded by a lot of people in the comments. It would be like, we don't want to hear about this shit. This shit don't matter in New York. It don't matter in Atlanta. We don't listen to this shit. And I beat places.

And I'm not saying that it does. It don't. It don't like, they don't really give niggas. They flowers like that. Like, I can say that. I start getting on my bias shit, but I speak the truth. They don't really, you know, really do, really get niggas like that. They might do it on the low.

They might pull up, you know what I mean, need some love. And then they want to act like they fuck with niggas and shit like that. But it's other people that do, you know what I mean? But I don't know. I don't know. It's that. The South, you know, They're going to always have a grip on the music, on hip-hop.

The East Coast, they're going to have a grip. You got the Midwest. You got the Detroit, niggins. You feel me? They got their fingers. They got their palms. And now they, you feel me? They're going to lean in.

Them niggas on fire. But, I mean, really? America's a giant fucking country. And there are just such regional scenes. The Bronx drill shit is huge. There's a million fucking dudes from the Bronx. Not a million. but there's like dozens of dudes from the Bronx

who can get millions of views on a song and then meanwhile you take that shit and you play it in Stockton they have no fucking clue what that is and in the Bronx they never heard at EBK Jabbo even though that shit is fucking huge out here and honestly even a lot of people in LA

don't know about somebody like Jaybo even though he might be doing the most numbers of like an independent artist in California if I'm not mistaken crazy like it's crazy that is that like in the Bronx I mean yeah just In New York, the drill artist, like, it's so many people out there, they don't got to leave New York. You know what I mean?

Like, and to the people that tapped in with New York, they drop, you know what I mean? They hop on, too. They're going fucking insane. And it's crazy that you said that. Like, it's people who don't know a J-Bo, but J-bo is him. He's him to niggas. Like, you know what I mean? He's him.

We go to Northern California. They ask who the higher, they're going to bring up. They're going to bring him up for sure. But it's people I've been out here, and they're like, I don't know who. who this is I'm sitting there like me sure like you say the world's huge but that niggas wave like if you listen to this and this how the fuck you don't know who jaybo is like you know but you do go to the east coast you go to the stop there be like who the fuck is that right and that's i feel like i'm in a unique position or even somebody like you where we actually know about all

that shit because realistically these cities are 3,000 miles apart like it's very understandable that one place does not relate to the sound that is the sound of another place that far away, you know, the same way that average American has not really tuned into a whole lot of English hip-hop. Yeah. Like when the accent's different and the slang is different, it's hard for them to relate to it. That's like UK drill. Yeah. The UK drill and the New York drill.

But then they'll say, oh, the New York rappers took our beats and turned them up in New York. Right. Like, yeah, they did. Right. Sorry. You have a song with Dusty Locane? You have a song Dusty Locane? Hell yeah.

It's called burpees. I was in fucking in Brooklyn. When's the last time you did a set of burpees? Bro, it's bad right now. Adam, it's fucking bad. I feel it. It's bad. I told you I'm dad body.

Dad mode, you know, I'm about to knock this shit off me, though. But I'm in dad mode. I've been comfortable. I've been happy as fuck. Like, you know what I mean? So now I'm finding the balance of putting everything with it. Still being the artist, you know what I mean? still being a presentable I still got that shit how'd you run into Dusty though

I never met him with Dusty I met Dusty I met with to Empire uh we used to Empire he was he was recording over here up in this room I was up in this room kept bumping into bro you know me and then it was like it's like so you you're nice to meet you dusty I'm like nigga your name ain't Dusty for real he like your word slew huh he laughed like like me whatever Go like this. I'm like, what that say? He's like, yo,

you dead ass. I'm like, I'm like, nigga, my name, Dusty, nigga. They call me Dusty. Like, I'm like, you're the East Coast Dusty. I'm the West Coast Dusty. Like, we gotta do something. Matter of fact, I'm working on something

right then and there. Hopped in, he's like, yo, I love that West Coast shit. I love it. Like, I fucking love it. Like, I ain't had hopped on the West Coast beat. And he did it. It took him like, It took him like an hour and a half, you feel

probably two hours to do it because the beat was so fast for him. Like the cadence and all that. He's like, man, I want to try it. I want to try it in the studio with all these young niggas and niggas strapped up. The niggas turned. Like young niggas, they turned to fuck up.

Me and I'm just sitting there like, the fuck like this nigga's crazy. Lord niggas turn. He got some boys with him. He got demons. And he ended up finishing it. We like, oh, this goes crazy. Ah, came, drop.

it. Went to the hood. Went to the hood. Went to the hood. Went to Canarsie and knocked it out. Went to Canarsie and knocked it out. Bro, we're on this block. 11 p.m.

He got 100 people out there. 11 p.m. He got 100 people out there. I'm talking about the real community. Wow. The store, all the Aki's, everybody, they're out there. And he got love. He loved that, dude.

That's what I love. They love, bro, for sure. Good to hear. Okay. So you've managed to, like, for the most part, from my perspective, basically stay out of like messy shit when it comes to what's going on, the media and everything.

You know, for the most part, I haven't really heard your name wrapped up in too much tomfoolery. Yeah. So I was extra surprised when I started seeing your name being thrown around with a fat boy's drama. Yeah.

Just didn't really picture all black being in that conversation. It got it to me. by surprise too. Like, it kind of fucked me up too. Right. Like, I fuck with dude though.

Like, I like dude. Right. I'm keeping it up bad. Like, you ever, have you ever heard me respond? No. To anything? No.

Have you ever seen a video or story post? Anything? No. Fuck with, bro. You're not really like that, right? Nah, you know me. I don't, I'm all love,

brus love with me, bro, I don't do that. You ever want to have a conversation about anything? You know, I'm open. You know what I mean? Like, shout out my big brother the twist and shout-up, bro.

Like, they know all and know the same people. You know what I mean? So it was easy to get everything, like, you know, fix quick. You know what I mean? Like, I love, I love Tiana. Love her. That's my, that's my dog. Like, we cool.

Like, we smooth. I never, I was never in my intentions to come in being on no, yeah, brother, knocked you out, dot, dot, dot, took your bitch. Hell no, like, man, we on some cool shit. You know, we're West Coast niggas. You know, you know it. We're West Coast niggas. We ain't in all that.

We ain't arguing. We ain't fighting over no girl, no nothing. You feel, me? Everything in love with me. Like, we ain't doing that. So when the media came and all the, you respond to all that, we're sitting around like, I don't know what you want me to say. Like, you know, I'm not doing that.

We have a conversation. You know, we have a conversation. We could do that. We're men, you feel me? I'm more of love, bro. Our family. I don't play like that. So this was a girl that you were.

spending time with unrelated to the fact that she had a pass with Fat Boy? I didn't know at first. I didn't even know. I wasn't none of that. I didn't know that. Then when I got hip, it was soon as I got hip, you know what I mean? It was, hey, little bro, this is blah, blah, this is the, okay, cool. Oh, oh, hell no, back up.

Get on the phone. No, him, him, twist, and get on the phone. We handle it. You remember we get shit understood. But when it come down to the whole media and the running and doing, y'all got that. Y'all got that. You feel what I don't got that one. You know what I mean?

Niggas got real life going on. I got real life going on. I tell you all that time, man, daddy mode, nigga. Real life going on. Real shit happening. You feel what I'm going to? I want my pockets up. You know what I mean?

I'm on that. Man, I'm back to regular schedule programming. You know what I mean? When she came out, she was in the video, it was love. Like, we just wasn't no nothing like that, man. We ain't on no trying to. Ha, ha, ha. We're going to embarrassers.

Bears play you out. Like, man, what? If I wanted to do that, I could have rent a hundred more plays. There's so many niggins' bitches I could have played that I could have played with. Let's really talk about I could have, I could have did it all type of ways, all type of niggas. So while niggas laughing and laughing at bruh. Trying to make him feels. You know, that's the net, though.

You know what I mean? Like, people trying to make you feels in type of way and all that. I'm not for that. Is that hard to be in the headlines or to have, you know, different instruments? pages posting shit and your names in it, and you just kind of kept quiet and stayed out of it. Yeah. That just comes natural to you.

No, like shit, you know, it's things be, you know, shit be shit. I just know the net. Like, I know how I go. I watch it. I see this shit. Like, I know when they get off the internet. You feel me? I know when they get off the internet, bro.

I'm really trying to scope for real. I know when they get off the net. I know when that shit's not for me. I know what could affect my team. Like, you know what I mean? I got stand-up niggas around me. bro, why am I doing that? I indulging in that, man.

I don't want that man. Hurting, all you know what I mean? Hurting for his kids and all. I'm a father of my damn self, you feel me? I'm not for that. Straight up, we bullying, niggas bullying. Y'all want to bully him and let it, man, listen, I don't clear up. None of that shit.

Y'all handle that. Y'all keep playing with that and doing everybody want to play and do all that. We ain't doing that. But what goes through your head when you see him tussling with her in the nail salon? I was just like, that's them. And it's being posted as like, you're basically the reason for this happening. I'm like, that's them.

Which I don't know if that's true or not. I'm like, that's them. They got things. They got to fix. Like, you know what I mean? Handle, that's their relationship. That's how they're fucking with it. Like, I'm all black.

I'm dusty. Like, you know, man, my big brother get on the phone call me, we ain't playing. Like, he don't even got to remind me or that type of shit. You know how we're moving, but I really value everything this nigga tell me.

You know what I mean? He didn't. He shaved me and mowed me, but he didn't teet him. He didn't already advocate. Like, hey, no, bro, like, we fuck with dude. Like, bro, didn't have somebody else call for us. Like, I mean, call for him and holler. We, like, man, what?

Like, we're from Oakland. Like, we come from real pimps and real players, like, and all type of shit. Like, you feel me? But we're gentlemen before everything, bro, like, we ain't known that. You feel me? We ain't done that. And niggas ain't ducking no wreck either. Like, you know that.

Niggas ain't ducking nothing. Niggas not scared of nothing. And niggins ain't mushing, pushing, nothing. Y'all keep doing that. When niggas want to hollas, I'm right here, grown man, sit down, take you out to eat. Let's holler. I take you out to eat, niggas sit down. We can do it right.

I'm not that person. I'm not for the bullying. I don't get fuck with nobody talking about. Can't nobody make me post nothing. Can't nobody make me say shit? Straight up. Adam, you know me. You've been knowing me for so many years, bro.

A lot of the biggest, most murderous beefs in hip-hop. history have stemmed from somebody fucking somebody else's girl and them not being able to handle it like adults yeah let's be real yeah they do and and and but where i come from it ain't that we don't do that we ain't beefing over no bitch we're not beefing over no money you feel me we beefing no if anything came down to us of respect and this what he's he is still this i'm 31 and he's still instilling this in my he reminded me continuously bro hell no this where you want where you want to go he asked where you want to go. So why are we worried about that?

What that mean? Like, man, what? We're trying to get this bread. Fuck all that, man. What's that going to do? With me responding back and doing all that going to do, niggins ain't make no money off that. Adam, come on, you've been doing this shit.

Who made money off that? It's a good way, like that moment right there would have been a good moment for you to get yourself on baller alert. Of course. Get yourself on the shade room. Of course. You could have done a bunch of viral shit to get your face out. I respect you not taking the bait or seizing the opportunity

because I've seen super gangster-ass dudes not be able to resist using that type of shit. And then what they end up looking like, they end up looking crazy as fuck what they ass up in the air. These niggas be going for all that. I'm not going for all that. I wouldn't raise on that. I wasn't raised on that. I'm not going for the Oki. I ain't no sucker.

I'm not hurting for nothing. Man, y'all niggas crazy. Like, a teacher's on. I don't take nothing from it. But I wouldn't raise like that. like that, the niggas around me ain't going for that at all, period. And I think even the best version of you yelling into the camera doesn't really, like, make the Spotify streams go up at this point.

Maybe, like, 10 years ago, 15 years ago, you could, like, be in, like, a weird little beef and people would actually kind of listen to you. And then you drop a song right after. Yeah. Like, man, hell, no, man, that was already in song. We got to move the project up. Man, we've been, we've been had that event.

We had that already. Like, we did that already. Man, that was already said to job. Like, you know what I mean? Like, man, it's cool, though. Like, you know, it align like that, but I'm not getting in there. I'm not getting in that. I'm not getting in that.

They know I'm not getting in that. They know I'm not playing that. They know I'm not playing all them games. It's cool. But I love T. I fuck with T. Heavy. Like, for the respect I got for her.

It's different. I got a hell of respect for her. On a more of a different level, it's hell of respect over there. You know what I respect. do how hard she hustle like people don't pay attention how hard she really hustle like now like what she do she really got up and made him you know what I mean made it happen she do a lot she she is a woman of many hats I mean I respect that you know and it ain't nothing no smith today you feel me like I pray I pray everything go smooth with them you know what I mean and she's working here and paying

no high paying out I'm not fucking with none of that man I got too much aware about me respect Other time that your name came up unexpectedly to me was when I'm interviewing the Hoff Twins. And all of a sudden, one of these crazy white boys mentions something about spending time with one of your baby mommas. Yeah. When I seen that video, I looked at your face. He was like, I really don't want it. I was like, I know he really don't. I know.

I hollered at them niggas. I seen them niggas. I seen them niggas at your birthday. Oh. I got loaded. I got drunk with them niggas on your birthday. birthday. Oh, that's what said.

The first time I see my bump into him in the bathroom. Oh, okay. I seen them niggas. Oh, no, bro, you know how I don't get. I didn't exactly have to push them to bring that up. I don't want to throw niggas under. That's them. You know, I'm cool with them niggas.

But I tell you like this, like, man, a nigger ain't never made nothing when I was on a clock. A nigger ain't never knocked nothing off me. Niggas ain't never took nothing from me. But I have a girl. I have a splendid history. Niggas ain't knocking nothing off me. Niggas ain't take that.

Niggas said it to my face. And, oh, bro, I was just, niggas just for the cliques and da-da-da-da-da. So I respect that. It's cool. You said that you cut that up because I want you to show me. And I've seen Shark. Sharp.

Sharp. Tell me when. Show me when. Right. Da-da-la. La. No, show me when. But you know, it's all love.

I can tell them boys ain't like, you know. I see where they're trying to go. You know? And I respect it. They try to pull a spin off on me and all that stuff. I get it for the clicks you know want to come up. But that's here or there. That type of shit, do you think you knocked off of me?

Don't even really exist for real. You got white boys like them where you grew up? Hell yeah. Okay. Hell of them. Like, but not like, not like, not like, not like super animated. Yeah. You feel me?

But yeah, hell yeah. Them niggas, they're not, them niggas ain't just corny like that. Like what people think they think the niggas corn balls And niggas ain't really just corn balls like that bro No you watch that documentary of them in their hood And you realize that their whole section seems to fucking But man I ain't know Man I'm gonna tell you like this straight up

Out the horse's mouth It ain't happen Nobody knocked me off nothing took nothing from me Much me Nothing nothing nothing nothing N nigga ain't made a dollar on my time I tell you that right now That's how I clear that up to you my friend

I tell you that Man you talking Nobody took nothing from me me. Nothing. Nobody made me live. You did make me feel some type way. That's how I go. You know? And that ain't even, that ain't no nothing. It's not my household. That's not my household at all. You ain't take nothing on my household, you know? For sure. So, no, that's to clear that up. I'm having you did ask me that because I forgot about that. It was funny to me. Right. Yeah, no. You know, you hear the role that I play the occupation of that and all that.

man, you're going to really do your homework, getting knee deep. Ain't nobody playing with mine. Ain't nobody playing with my ism. Nobody. Nobody didn't even scratch the surface of my ism. For sure. When's the last time you talked to G. Easy? I talked to Batman.

I talked to Batman a month ago. Okay. Where's he at? What's going on? He's been low key. He was OT. He was out the country. I forgot.

I fucking forgot what country. Man, that nigg had been going country hopping just. getting spots and living and doing this thing. But if you follow his Instagram, he's going fucking crazy. He's still doing them shows, O-G, like out the country, he's waving. Yeah, he don't got to, like, release music to make a bunch of money. In a given year. Once you have big hits and you can tour.

Yeah, well, and he got the, he got the comb over like you. You know what I mean? His hair line's a little stronger than mine, for sure. Y'all too, y'all too, y'all too, my saucy white boy partners, for sure. You're my saucy white boy partners I respect you, nicks Appreciate that, yeah Throw me in the mix

I've been friends with you For a minute, man You've been good to me You're a good dude You've been good to me Yeah It's like I've seen you around Enough times

That we got that like Little neighborly Quality going Yeah, man You had your birthday bro You was a good time right You had that shit on

I went to go get a belt like you Shout out Dust O'D He gave me that belt Yeah, you got that one right Like this same one right I think yeah It's like a BB Simon That one was like the golden shit.

Oh, some of my other. Some updated shit. Okay. This dude probably got a whole collection of BB Simon belts. I've always resisted the urge over the years. You came with the buttoned up, nipples out, and all. I love it. No, jean jacket and jeans.

No shirt. My girl was tripping. My girl still brings it up. You were saucy. I'm like, it was my birthday. You were saucy. He told me. He's like, rock this with no shirt.

I'm like, all right. Fuck it. It's my birthday. If I'm ever going to rock no shirt at a party all night, it's going to be on my birthday, right? Why was you so fucking early to your party, though? Because, I don't know. There was already a lot of people when I got there.

Yeah, you didn't even make no intro. You were just in the love. Like, you were just instantly in the love. Like, it was fucking lit, though. I ain't going to lie. It was nice. See, that was my first time really being able to bring the porn stars and the rappers together on a level like that, you know?

That line? Yeah. Oh, a lot of people. See, you're my friends. I got to shake your hand. That line, that line was two blocks. It went down and around. And then you had the fucking ambulance.

You had the ambulance, right? Yeah. On the block over. So nobody even knew the music was banging so hard. Man, motherfuckers didn't even make it in a party. There was Lodell Beckham. It's because we told them you got pat everybody down. We could have no blicks in this bitch

because there's going to be a bunch of people in here that do not like each other. We already like all kinds of weird drama putting the guest list together. Critt Mac couldn't come. He was mad. It was a whole thing. Yeah, I seen niggas is mad at you.

I stood in that line out of respect. You're my boy. And then on top of that, I seen hell of hell of hell of stars. So I'm like, if I got to stand in line, they got $25 million. You know what I mean? Okay, it's the least I could do for a brother.

Like, I got to. Me and Tweets, me and Twees stood in line. The line can't be about that next time. Nah, you always going to get bigger. I've been wanting me and ask what's the status of offset Jim because I believe you introduced me to his music at one point and he was having a whole wave before he got locked up and we were actually bumping him like crazy up until that time.

Jim, Jim's still good. Jim's still moving, bro. Like, we, man, we, we brothers. So, you know, we go through the real notions of brothers. You know what I mean? But I'm going to pick Jim over anybody. I don't give a fuck. I don't care about the season.

reason me i want to put gym before anybody straight up so you know i mean he's still doing this thing he's still making making he's still making he's still making he's still making shit happen he's still having that shit too okay i don't don't get it fucked up he we did go to jail and um i really don't know the status on that but that's my brother i don't get fuck what nobody talking about like yeah he's still doing that shit he's still making that shit he's still making a run huh he needs another run yeah he's gonna because we were going nuts for him for a while there Jim, Jim, when he pop out, he pops the fuck out. He pop out.

He didn't lost his little weight and all that. He's still having that shit. He's still iced up and he still got his shit. He still got his jay. Right, definitely. If they were to drug test you right now, what's going to come up? A lot of lean talk on a new project I noticed. He, oh, man.

This is not. No, no, no, this is my real. He, this right here, hey, be on me, black, bro. What are you doing? Like, no, I don't. This is real, it's real. This is not the, it's the dad by. Don't resonate with the whole play.

Like, you know what I mean? And I wanted more than he wanted. Like, I really want it off me. You know what somebody be like, I want to lose his weight. I want to lose it. You know what I mean? But really don't be doing it. And then you got somebody to pick up and be like, hey, bro, you keep saying that shit,

But stop saying that. Then you're just looking, you know, clean this up. Like, so they get lean. They get lean. That's it. Hmm. I don't smoke weed, Adam. I don't smoke weed.

I don't do cocaine. I've never done cocaine. Shout out to everybody who get high, too. Because I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. But no, nothing for me.

I don't like having to listen to a coked-up bitch talk. Huh? Like a bitch who's. Cucked up is just going to start telling you everything under the sun. That's too much. I don't know. I can't really handle it in this day and age. Bro, what?

It didn't they, like, they ready. They turned up. And then when they need another bump, they always need another bump at the time where you just getting saucy. When it's on a social position, when it's out of this day. You want to fuck. They want to do more coke.

They want to do. That's why I don't, that's the only part I don't like. I'd be like. many times in my life it's been like I'm doing coke too fuck yeah

and then you realize at some point oh she's just doing coke no she really just doing it and when she is fucking coke on her mind yeah she only letting you she really only letting you hit

because of that because I'm telling you but if you don't let her take that bump when she need to take the bump oh man she's gonna hit you with a mouthful of it she gonna make you feel it I've been there

when I was doing that strip club hosting I really got a window into the fact that all these chicks are drunk as fuck Because they're all talking to me like more than you normally talk to a snipper and I'm starting to realize like oh You're fucking wasted I don't gotta throw a fucking dollar I just want a shot huh? Yeah If you do it like You gotta bring me on plug talk man I'm the cat out the bag Trying to take something down No, let me direct like let me direct let me coach or something

I'll be an intern. Make me an intern. Just don't be a fluffer. What's that? I don't know, maybe like Help the girl apply the lube or something maybe. Oh, Adam. I'm too saucy for that, man.

I'm too sorry. But I help out. I do it, I gotta do. I'll be an intern, but y'all love me. I'm hella funny. I'll be cracking hell of jokes and shit to the bitches, all type of shit. Hmm.

Maybe that's an idea. Tell you, man. Y'all need somebody to help the bitches pick the outfit. It's all I go crazy. Real talk, though, we need personalities for Plug Talk who are not fucking. Come on. To, like, make the content more interesting with, like, other shows we're building up. I'm kind of, like, slowly realizing that.

Man, I'm not worried about it. I get enough bruising, cruising, bruising. I'm straight. I got a pound. Man, hire me. I'll send it to the team. Send it to the team. I'll send a music video.

That's the best you can do. That's the best you can do. I send an interview and be like, here, watch this hour and a half. long interview. Come on. Tell them to do something. At least you put the word in. Do something. That's what friends do. That is what friends do. What, um, what are you listening to right now? What moves you, hip-hop wise and otherwise?

Move me. I love baby face, Ray. Facts. I love these. I love me. It's crazy. I love my shit. Um, I was just a human. Houston, that ride four nine, nigga. Mm. He turned.

He turned. Who would he be listening to? Duh. Who would he be banging out? We'd be playing madden. My little brother, K, though, he raw as fuck. He got shit. I listen to a lot of Baycats.

I listen to Baycats. I listen to Bay Area niggas. I listen to a lot of L.A. niggas. And I just don't want to miss, no. But I don't want to say L.A. and then miss niggas. I miss it. Listen to hell LA, niggas. I loved him.

If you were me, who should I interview from Northern California since I'm sure there's all kinds of dope shit that I'm missing out on? Jim. Jim. Bring Jim. Bring Jim. Bring my little brother, Cato. He's fired.

He do everything. And I'm not just campaigning for him, brother, just because he on here, bro. He raw. He raw as fuck. Like, he's young, nigga, too. He's saucy. My little brother, Kato, he raw. Who else?

Did you get them already? You already got the whole Stockton Wave and Sacknobos. You should get... You should get... Zay. Zay bang. You should get a little bean. You should get a little Pete.

He a fucking dog. You should get a little yee. Okay. He go crazy. You don't know a little ye? Low ye. You don't know a little ye? I don't think so.

Nigger. Nipa. Yeah. Tap in, nigga. Get him right. I will. You get him right. Um... Get Lil Russell.

You fuck a little Russell? Oh, actually, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just my nigga. He on the new album, too. That's my nigga. He didn't respond. Man, I tap you in. That's weak.

No, no, no, no, no, you turn. You turn, everybody I love you. You should get him. Man, you can't get nobody. Man, them nays. You should get them. My nigga's shy six hundred. He's raw as fuck, too.

He from North Oakland. He from where Marshall Lynch from. Okay. Ice City. He fired. You should fuck with him. You should fuck with, oh, yeah, you should fucking my baby mama, Sonsu. She raw shit, too.

Really? Yeah, it's my baby mama. She fired. She used to be in a group. You said fuck with, right? Fuck with. Okay. I can't.

I'm fucking my baby mama. I'm talking about rap, niggas. No, you should fuck with me. My baby mama sansu, she's fire. She fired. She's fired. She got gas. She's just getting out of the ground. She's fired.

She was with a rap group named Sue Lahn. Okay. They end up breaking up, though. You should, dude, you should speak on a speak, just acts around. They, they know. Sulan, like S-U-L-A-N? Yeah. Yep, S-U-L-A-N.

They're fired. They were, but it's just, it's on Sunni-N-O-N-O-Sheon. She ain't with the other girl, no more, they. Oh, okay. Hey, uh-uh. Got it. Yeah. She fired.

This girl named Friscoe, baby. She fired. My nigga, Mocker. he fired. It's some raw, and I'm not just saying, niggas, I'm like, oh, if niggas see this,

ain't he said, no, no, bro, there's a niggas fired. We got talent, bro. We got fire in the bay, brun, niggas don't get their flowers, Pilo. You should interview DTV.

You should interview my producer DTB, you know? You got a lot of credits. Stupid plaques. You got hell of shit. He just announced the platinum shit with money bag, yo. Oh, shit.

He got hell of shit, bro. We got, we got fired niggas out there. Like, that I know, niggas don't really get that. They don't really get that exposure, but they don't get that love, like, you know. But I know how I go.

For sure. What else you're doing to roll this album out, and what do you want the rest of this year to be like for you in terms of the music and everything? Rolling the album, really just, we really want to go with it. Like, I just want to put it out and show love. I always do the big listening parties, the crazy-ass parties, the craze go up to all these places. I'm not doing that. I only came to see you, bro, just to holler at you, you know. I'm really just on the go, bro, slow motion, better than no motion.

I want to get people updated what I've been on. Let them know checking on my mental health, I've been cool, bro. That niggas know black still moving mean, black growing up. This year, I want to put out more music. I always been to put out a project a year, go back up in my cubbyhole, go trap and go fucking around and have fun, like having the best day. days, you know what I mean? But I want to draw more music. I want to put out more albums. You feel what I mean? I want to really keep people updated. You know what I mean? I want to be

consistent with keeping them updated and letting me know what's going on. I don't want to leave for eight months or leave for six months and then come back and be like, oh, this is what I was doing. This is all y'all good. Like, no, I want to keep y'all updated. I want to let y'all know what I'm doing week to week. That's like the great struggle with a lot of artists these days where you have like a Drake who previously had taken, you know, many years between projects and then in the last like year or two he's dropped like four

projects and he kind of like was taking shots at Kendrick by saying you know he's not the type of artist who wants to wait five years between projects but, you know, I get that. Like if you're a dude who spends a lot of time in the studio, you know, put that shit out. And I'm not a person

that spent all the time in the studio. I'm not that person. I run around I move around, bro. I really go live life for real. Right. Like, I'm serious, bro. I really go to grocery stores. By myself or with tweeds.

Like, I really do this shit. I really go to baseball games. I go to basketball games. I really go. I really go sit at these games. I go do that. I go watch college games. I go to March Madness.

Like, I really go do this shit, for real. Then I go to the studio. All right, I'm going. Daddy mode. Lead Daddy mode. Did you punch in? Or you write shit? throughout your day-to-day life?

All-Black, always been the writer. I've always been the writer, you know. But last two projects, I've been punching it. It's been fun. Like, it's been getting in the rhythm of just going and not thinking so much. I have a whole lot of stuff, like, that I'll be doing. Like, you've seen me, I'll just go three states in a week.

Or three states in two weeks, you know? At the time I get to the lab, I got hellish. I can talk about one whole night. I can get y'all an album on one whole night. For real. No, I space it out. I got shit to talk about. Go knock it out.

I respect it. I need to do more living, less podcasting. Move around, Adam. I'm podding a little too much. Move around. You fucking lit. Nicar, man. Go shake your tail feather.

Move around, bro. I bet that night I got blackout junk. I was shaking my tail feather. That's a little bit. Bro, go get some bookings, man. You take your lady, bro. I'll go look saucy. Go hit the carpet.

You know what I mean? Go dress up. Go match. We're the same color Wear orange Wear orange I don't know if I'm allowed Try it

Just try it You know what I mean Go pop out Go have fun You lit nigga Don't hide it I'm gonna tell you that Let's get some matching outfits

Yeah Hit the town Come on now Go to some baseball games Football games Really go Bro pop out They're gonna red carpet

You fuck it They're gonna velvet carpet you You bro Should I be one of those guys Who buys Like floor seats To all the Lakers Games

Just pull up to one Just pull up to one So I can be sitting Next to Jonah Hill Come on, bro. And what's his name? What's the actor? He was on Talladega Nights.

When you go there, Will Ferrell, does he go there or no? He always at the Laker game. Really? Always. I go there. I go to a lot of those. I go to a lot of Clipper games, too. It's like the one or two times I'm into a Lakers game, that's a big part of what you're doing

as you're waiting for the game to start as you're just sort of watching the perimeter and just being like, everybody there. Niggas don't even be wearing. I know her. Yeah. That's some real. If you want to look rich,

I was basically like... They'll love you at that motherfucker. They'll give you a standing ovation. Yeah, Adam and Lina. Adam and Lina. Two porn stars. They're going to fuck with you. You're not just a porn star, bro.

You're all the type of shit, bro. If I was the Lakers, I might be careful about shutting me out. You out there, hawking? You're searching for shit? I'm going to pull up my shirt and have my only fans link shaved into my chest hair. Bro. Fuck around and find out.

Do you know how many hoopers, bitches you're going to push up on? He running into basketball players is weird as fuck for me because they're super fucking famous. I have no idea who they are. And you steal my lesson. I'm treating them like nothing. They're just tall.

You're just tall. I don't know nothing about you. You're just tall. Hooper niggins be getting their bitches. Snagged quick. Hooper niggas? Because they got no sauce. Because Zion Williamson's of the world.

They got enough money in Cloud to get the bitches but they don't really, you know. They ain't a... They ain't a all-black. The hoopper niggas be getting knocked off, man. Yeah. But you know anybody can get knocked off, man. You got to just make sure a home taken care of.

They ain't going to get played with if home took them care of. Yeah. Say that. No offense, Zion. Cheaping her right. She'll write out of me, but... That dick a hub. Just kind of realize when you see those texts, you're like, oh, damn.

This is what you're doing with your fame and your wealth, huh? Could you say, could you say, um, really? has been like kind of odd has it been kind of odd like getting the reactions that you've been getting based on life from your friends since you've been doing this

since you've been doing the porn have you been getting like weird responses weird reactions from your friends like your close friends my close friends definitely saw it coming they saw it coming they knew you was going to be banging shit out as soon as we started having Snapchat stories

and shit I was fucking getting my dick sucked on there and shit losing Snapchat's like I was just like when I think about it now I'm like damn you should have realized the world was going in this direction early on yeah because I was always like recording as fucking you know just I should have I should have seen it coming yeah you you ever get some friends where you like hey I wish you wouldn't have never seen my video and you cat trip not too worried about it good watch whatever the fuck they want I remember like my brother-in-law telling me like Jesus Christ dude I was on porn.

This is many years ago. He did not know. He's like, I was on porn hook today, and I've seen this fucking, seen your name in the title. I didn't watch it, but I'm like, oh, but he would actually tell me,

whereas, like, I know a lot of people in my life probably realized and just didn't say anything because it would be awkward or something. Well, as your friend, I accept you. You're fucking waiting. You're one of my idols.

My guy. Hey, one of my... You're one of my fucking idol. One of my favorite rappers and a great American. If I can bang shit out like that, just be moving me like that and how your life for a week. Well, they'll probably fuck your rapper up.

I'm going to be real with you. Nobody wants to see that from their favorite rapper. Nah. I ain't really my calling, man. I'm Mr. NDA. Sign the NDA. I don't think it's my calling either for the record. You gotta go.

You gotta sign the NDA, man. We want to do something with me. It's a very different feeling going into the office to do an interview with a rapper or a comedian or a person that I'm like really interested in talking to versus going in to fuck a couple times on camera. Right. It's just like.

You ever got to work and was like, man, I don't want to do this today. I don't want to, I don't want to get off today. You ever went into work and felt like that? Not really. Usually I'm pretty excited to fuck. But I've definitely, like, gone in there and not done what I meant to do. You be eating honey? Don't lie.

No. Blue shoes. I have something on deck. Blue shoes. In case, I really feel like I need to perform. No, I never did none of that shit. I'm totally green when it comes to all that. Yeah, you just go straight the fucking in and just over with it.

All natural. Organic. Check you out, man. Yeah. Check you out, man. GMO free. All right, so why should they check out this project? They got to check it out.

It's all black. You got to check it out. It's me you're talking to. It's me you're listening to. More fun, more little shit. You know what I mean? I got great features on there. And never is never a force, you know that

It's never, it's never by force It's always by choice You know If you fuck with me You fuck with all black You fuck with everything I stand for Everything I've been giving you in the past You know what I mean

It's worth it You know what I mean It ain't none of that I'm not I'm not admitted Nothing on there You know I'm not shitting on nobody And nothing like that

I'm the only nigger that can peat with me I compete with the old me I'm trying to beat the old me So that's what I'm on You know what I mean See it's fire Slow motion Better than no motion

The name Speak for itself for real You know No matter what Keep going Man keep going A lot of niggas They quit

Man they quit when they're around the corner They quit when they're around the corner It's all artists out there Man do your fucking thing But go up You make it your calling When this shit all over with That's when it's all over the way

When you fell off, you gotta say you fell off. Don't let the comments and YouTube and, you know what I mean? Your partner that wanted to rap and he, you know what I mean? He turned up, I don't do that. Like, you know, and I seen something from Wallo. I love Wallow a lot. That's my guy. I seen something from him earlier, and he was talking about being on teams.

And he made a lot of sense, you know. He said, don't. let your friends and your family members, like boost your head up to make you feel like you're the superstar. When you're on the team, you got to go get a couple of rebounds, you got to catch a couple of fouls

or, you know, something like that. Like, be a team player. Know your calling, know who you are. Don't try to be the superstar. Be on a team where you can get to the championship. You know what I mean? Be on a team to where you can get to the championship. And I only bring that up

It's because I'll play any fucking position I'd be the center I'd be the ball boy You know what I mean I'd be the coach I'd be the quarterback You know what I mean If I gotta be the bus boy

If I got to drive the motherfucking bus That get the team there I'm gonna do that I'm a real fucking team player I don't care what it is You know what I mean That's the type of team I feel like I'm on Like you know

I don't got to always have the wheel You know what I mean Somebody else everybody in my team got shacks everybody know how to drive everybody with this shit you know what I mean so but when it's my turn when I'm up I'm going to dominate I'm going to execute

I'm fucking Shaquille O'Neal bro from this rap shit I'm fucking Shaquille O'Neal That's some good advice I respect to anybody who gets somewhere in life and manages to stay relatively normal all of my dabbling in acting like a fucking ego maniac

never really seems to work out for me I feel like you gotta just try to keep that ego in check no matter how big you get. I've definitely failed at times, but it's definitely like the thing that's going to keep the people endeared to you, the thing that's going to keep your life in check, you know? Facts.

When you start behaving like a fucking billionaire once you, like, made a couple million, it's not really, doesn't turn too many people onto your side. For real. And just doing that, like, I even look at it, it's popping your shit. Like, you gotta pop your shit.

You gotta let niggas know, yeah, we out for males. Yeah, we turn. Yeah, we're doing that. Don't scare the people away. You know what I mean? Don't shit on everybody. Like, you're not made to shit on everybody, bro.

You know what I mean? Like, I don't look at them motherfuckers. Them the type of people that's not healed. You know what I mean? They're not healed. I got a lot of, a lot of work to do with themselves, you know what? So, like I say, I'm a fucking team player, bro. I don't get fuck.

As long as we get there, get us there. Get it to the fucking championship. I'm not afraid to go do those dirty work. I'm not afraid to go do them 300 cabrooms. I'm not afraid to go out because I could do a thousand camera You know what I mean? I've done the 8,400 people with G EZ and Red Rock I've done that

I've done the festivals I didn't did I didn't play those I'm not afraid to get on my knees And my hands and do the dirty work That's what makes me different from artists That's a big part of the reward Yeah I'm not afraid to go fucking grind I don't care about none of that shit

What's going on? No I'm not door dashing my fucking groceries I'm about to go get my own I'm going to get that cart I'm going to sit in that cart and I'm going to go through every fucking hour and I'm going to get what the fuck I need and that's how I feel like I am in this game I'm going to go get mine

so I don't want to fuck all that period because when this shit all the way over and done I can say I did my thing once this shit really over with it's over with I'm not coming back no I'm not coming back to drop another verse for you knickers

or I'm coming out and do the do the fucking chitlin circuit no I'm gonna get this shit my all while I'm right here I'm about to put that fucking time in bitch I'm in second gear fuck all that let's go respect yeah

appreciate you gee I said it wrong for a second look at that I can just edit my own shit in real time you that nigga man you're that nigga man I really appreciate you for having me man letting me come through you know what I mean we just hollering and doing shit like that man

just shout out to my team bro Savers University we work really fucking hard we're a small group but we peck a big fucking punch we got a lot of rank my little brother Kato Big Brother J-Dub, my big brother Twis, my big brother Twis. You know me?

Shout on my brother, Noe. Shout out my brother Shice. Shout on my brother, doo-doo. You feel-hmm? Shout out of the whole 22nd ways, man. I let you all the death. I know y'all love No Jumper. I know y'all love the fucking podcast.

You better. I know y'all, man, my 22-n-nickers love you. Okay. They love you. They inked up just like you. Let's go. I'm going to your hood and get a 22 tattoo out there. Some niggas got 22 tass.

It's love and they rangers too It's love, bro. Shout out to the whole Acorn, California, bro, too. I love y'all too. For sure. Let's make it happen, man. Thank you. Everybody who's always been fucking with me. It's love. I still got all my limbs. All this shit still working.

I still smell good. I'm still putting paint where it ain't. Still posing to be chosen. I'm still the best they ever did it and got away with it. Let's go. All-black. No jumper. Coolest podcast.

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