No Jumper - ALT Rondo on Beating a M*rder, Afghan Gangs Vlog, Islam & More

Episode Date: March 30, 2024

Rondo talks about making content with Tommy G, his faith, catching a case, rappers and influencers becoming Muslims, and more. ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ON...LINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Jumber, coolest podcast in the world. And basically this conversation was prompted. And I have to give a shout out to my boy, Tommy G. Because he recently went and did a video with the guy sitting across from me, Rondo. And he said it in the video. And then I believe he also texted it to me or called me and told me that out of all the hoods, he'd been to all over the world, all over the United States, at the very least. that you guys were arguably the craziest slash.
Starting point is 00:00:36 I mean, I'm sure he found out about a bunch of stuff that he didn't talk about on camera, but he basically left more impressed slash freaked out by you guys than anybody else that he's ever done content with, which is saying a lot because the guy basically runs a YouTube channel where he goes to a different crazy-ass area every single week. No, yeah. It was a lot of shit at the cut,
Starting point is 00:00:59 and he saw a lot of a couple of things, not too much. Like 1% of the shit that we do behind the scenes. I don't know. We're not a gang. We don't clarify. We're not a gang. We don't do none of that little. We move as a family.
Starting point is 00:01:13 We're a family. Or a brand. We're a business. We're businessmen. And we don't let to do too much talking. I would have never took that interview from Tommy G because we don't like that type of light. You know, that type of spotlight brings in RICO cases and all this type of...
Starting point is 00:01:28 But how did you get connected? Well, it's because the music, that's the only reason that I even accepted the videos because, you know, the publicity for the music. You know it was shining a light on you. Yeah, but one of the fans had sent him a text message. I mean, sent him an email, and he had got back to me, and then we got on a call, and we scheduled everything. And you ended up feeling like he was trustworthy? Tommy G.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Yeah. It was a little skeptical, but me and the homies, we got together, and we, like, talked about it. I mean, he's gone through it with me and told me that he will send a video back and forth to the people that he filmed with over and over and over blurring out different little things that they don't want in the videos and stuff like that. So he seems like he goes really, really hard to not fucking anything up for people. I got a little love for him, bro. When I met him in person, like, I thought he would be just like a personality for the camera
Starting point is 00:02:20 or like, oh, he just acts like this on camera, but he's actually like that in person. He's like genuinely cool and he's nice to everybody. He's chilly. And he always has like the questions coming. On top of his mind, like he'll never let something get dry. Very genuine and curious and just kind of goes into these environments that he has no business being in. And he just has like a good attitude about it. And he asked genuine questions.
Starting point is 00:02:40 And people open up because they know and they understand that he doesn't really come from this world. And he doesn't really know about this stuff, but that he's interested. Yeah. But it was like a little common misconception in the video. People was thinking we from Fremont, we's not from Fremont. That's just where the food was. They got good food. Most people that claim cities
Starting point is 00:03:01 We don't claim cities We be from everywhere But most of the homies They're from my South Hayward Hayward San Jose Me personally I'm from Union City We don't really claim cities We just get together
Starting point is 00:03:12 You know we got each other's backs We do our business So normal gang stuff or street stuff Usually gets associated based on Neighborhoods and stuff like that But your thing is more about The ethnicity or the nationality? We're just family but yeah
Starting point is 00:03:27 It's not a game gang, but I like to kick it around my own. But that's how you guys know each other and everything? Even him, he's half Afghan. So that's why we bring it around. Right, because the video, I think, tagged you guys as just like Afghan gangs, which I'm trying not to use the word gang, but it's proving kind of difficult because that is what he named the video. He named it, but if you want to call it, that's what you could call it because that's your opinion.
Starting point is 00:03:49 And you can say it all you want to do podcast. No, yeah. No, I don't get a problem with you say. But me personally, like, I wouldn't call it a gang. We're a tribe. We're a family. My bad, I forgot the questions you asked. No, just when he labeled it, like, Afghan gang, what specifically, like, where is your family lineage come from?
Starting point is 00:04:08 And how, like, do you know how long your family has been in the United States and everything? No, yeah. So we do only kick it around Afghans. Just because, like, I'll get into explaining that, just remind me. But, yeah, my family, they're all from Afghanistan. They came from war. They came, I think my pop's, like, came in, like, the 80s. And then my mom came in like the 90s or 2000s.
Starting point is 00:04:30 I'm not sure. But yeah, they come from the land. You know, all the homies were all first generation Americans. You know what I mean? And what kind of work did your parents go into when they came out here? They went through a lot of stuff. We never really had money at some point. Like my dad was a hot dog vendor and he was driving taxi.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Little stuff that didn't make too much money. You know, sometimes like, the lights would go out and a little stupid stuff like that, but he tried his best he provided, you know, he put all that street shit aside and manned up, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:04 he got married and had kids and he tried to switch his life around. And what was your relationship with him? I love my dad. Right. He's so funny, bro. Did he try to keep you out of, like, crime and street stuff?
Starting point is 00:05:20 My dad is a good guy, you know. He did his best for everything. It's just like, I don't know, bro. He was good. He told me to stay out of the stuff. He told me not to do this. He always gives me warnings and stuff.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Like, don't do this, don't do that. He keeps me laid stuff with information. Definitely. That's good to hear. And so, okay, how did you, like, when did you hop off the porch, as they say? I never hopped off the porch. I mean, when did you start? Like, I feel like there's a distinct part of your life where you're a kid.
Starting point is 00:05:53 And then there's, like, when you start becoming a man. I was always a bad kid. Really? From elementary, I was getting expelled from elementary. expelled from middle schools, expelled from high school. I was just like, they called it in Farsi,
Starting point is 00:06:06 like, I was a shoh-ass kid, you know what I mean? That's hell of bad. Hell of energy. Always, like, wanting to break shit. Like, fuck some shit up.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Always fighting. That's one of the most things I always got in trouble my whole life. I was like fighting. That was like my favorite thing to do. Fight, fight, fight. Really?
Starting point is 00:06:21 Like, about what kind of stuff? It's bullshit. Just like, just fight. You know, like not verbal fight, like physical fight. Like, within your friend group? or do you have ops already at that point? No, just over the little arguments, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:33 just like somebody like says some stupid shit, just fly on them. Some, I don't know if, like, people would be always, like, talking on the net, so we'd go pull up on them. The thing about us, bro, we always run fair one. We never jump nobody. We don't do no jump. If somebody calls out ones, all the homies is good at hands, we all got hands, we all got a good ground game, you know?
Starting point is 00:06:55 It comes with that against. They know how to fight on the ground, too. Like, we don't really wrestle. Like, if you've seen in the video, we don't really do, like, the wrestling. But we decent at it, like, naturally, you know what I mean? Like, they call in Afghanistan, like, Polonni. And what's that mean? Like, wrestling, like, wrestlers.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Like, you'll see, like, if you watch videos in Afghanistan, like, they're just, like, it's not a technique, it's just all strength. Right. They'll just, like, wrestle each other off just pure strength, trying to, like, pull each other down and shit. Interesting. So, when did you, like, start getting arrested or having that kind of shit to when you were younger? Like, 14.
Starting point is 00:07:29 14, 13, 14. What kind of stuff are you getting into? Armed robbery. Who put you onto that? I didn't do nothing. Well, you got arrested for it. Yeah, I've been arrested. They might have been misled, but what really haven't?
Starting point is 00:07:45 You put me on to nothing, but I've had arrests. I've been caught up for like, like, stolen vehicles, like gun charges and all this type of stuff, but yeah, just like the simple shit. And so, like, was your friend group at that time, the people that you you're friends with now or did that come together later? I've known, I've known my homies for a long time. Some people, like, I came a little newer, like, not new within like a year, but like the past two years and stuff.
Starting point is 00:08:14 But it wasn't a lot, like, we even had a bigger group back then, but a lot of the people fell off. Like, it wasn't like, no, like, we was like in one big click. It was just like we was all mutuals type. And, like, hell of shit happened. We fell out. Those people, they were kind of, like, scary as n' ass too. Really scary.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Hells scary. Meaning you start getting into stuff and then they just kind of bail out before things are done? Yeah, they don't know how to handle business. Really? Yeah. And are we talking about just issues with other people or were you getting into like actual business making serious money at this point? See, the difference between like the Afghans in the street and all these other people is we bought the money. You about the money, y'all?
Starting point is 00:08:58 You know what I mean? Like it's, we put all the beefs to the. side for we got beats like when it comes down to taking care take care of but our main priority is money like we running after money we got different ways of running up money money is the motive which I make money because that's like the stereotype or the idea that the average person who lives in a city has about like people who you know like there's just certain businesses that it feels like people from your side of the world kind of end up dominating like uh dominating just in terms of business like
Starting point is 00:09:30 you know, but then you're probably more tapped into the street side of things, which I don't really know about in terms of like people making money in that way. People act like, like based on hip-hop and stuff, you would kind of think that most crime was not committed by your race. We keep a real low-key. It's real low-key. We don't talk about, we don't post none, we don't do nothing. We just keep a low-key.
Starting point is 00:09:57 We don't work with too many people. We just keep it tight, like, like the middle. Italians in the 90s. I don't know what that means. We keep it amongst the avians. For sure. Who do you guys beef with? Are there races, or is it more like neighborhoods and shit?
Starting point is 00:10:15 We don't be. I don't know this type of question. I mean, in your music and in that Tommy G thing, it does seem like you've got issues with people. That there's problems. Everybody loves us. We love everybody. or people of peace.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Why was that guy screaming? I was with the food spot. Oh, that's just another Afghan guy. I know him. He's just a crack cat. That's what I was thinking, yeah. He used to be cool.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Like my dad introduced me to him. He used to be my dad's friend growing up. Now he just sleeps on the street. He's just a crack cat. He's cool before the video, before the video that we've seen him all the time. Like he'll come shake on him. He'll be like, Sala'am-a-L-L-L-L-Jon,
Starting point is 00:10:52 all this type of stuff. Like, we've even tried to help him to get sober. But that day he was just tweaking out a little hard. And if we beat that boy, ass because, but it was multiple of us. How are you going to look, yeah? First, like, you can never win with the internet. If we beat us out, they can be like, oh, these people jumped in,
Starting point is 00:11:08 oh, they think they're so tough. And I'm not trying to talk this on, bro, but he's a known snitch. I swear the guy, like, brother snitch. That nigga is a snitch, bro. Really? Yeah, he's a known snitch. The PD confirmed you. Yeah, I was walking through the other day and getting food in Fremont, and this cop
Starting point is 00:11:25 stops me. He's like, wait, ain't you the guy from the video with the white guy? I was like, yeah. He's like, oh, who was up? with that little guy from the video he was tweaking out, I work in that little section at night he'd be tweaking. He told him, he's like, oh, he always causes trouble, and he was
Starting point is 00:11:38 like, oh, but he never see to see him get locked up. Word on my mom, on everything I love. Willa, he's Ramadan, so I wouldn't lie. He said, because he's a nark. Whenever he gets caught, he starts talking about everything and everyone on my life. That's crazy. So look, if we hit that
Starting point is 00:11:54 boy and then he presses charges and we crash out, oh, he crashed out over a crackhead or this and this. We find big cases and stuff, you know what I mean? We're not worried about a crackhead, bro. We got serious shit going on. We got not even like, you know, another thing that was misled in the Tommy G video that it kind of sounded like we were being a little arrogant.
Starting point is 00:12:16 You're not arrogant people. Like, they're saying like, oh, they're flexing their ankle monitor and all this stuff. I was just saying, like, we got nothing to prove. We've beat up people worse than this and, like, done this to people like, who have, like, 100 times more ranked than him, you know what I mean? like, we're not worried about a guy who literally sleeps on that street, you know what I mean? Like, literally wakes up the next day's on the street, you know, like, I don't know if you get what I'm trying to get it. No, definitely, because, I mean, everybody's got that friend who's down to fight, like, a total, or like a random person, but, like, doesn't really have that energy for somebody who's more of a challenge.
Starting point is 00:12:50 He got mental health issues, bro, like, you know, I was, like, if we beat brus ass, like, how was God going to look at us for being someone that you know he's, like, he's actually mentally ill, but, like, We know him personally Like he needs mental help He just don't want to take it He'd just be doing He'd be taking other type of help Do you think he was showing out for the video Because he knew what was going on YouTube
Starting point is 00:13:08 No yeah For sure You even hear him talk about Oh bro, the video I told the homies You hear me in the video I was like, bro, like Don't do nothing for the cameras
Starting point is 00:13:18 Like don't even whip this boy for the camera Let him get his five seconds of fame He's already apologizing My uncle already walked up on him You apologize saying Oh I would never disrespect your family And this and this so simple shit
Starting point is 00:13:31 definitely so I mean like when you started catching more serious cases when did that begin because I know there's one like really big one but was there anything
Starting point is 00:13:41 that led up to that? Like serious cases like yeah like I don't know you're talking about like getting little armed robbery charges or whatever like when did you start actually really getting locked up see I never got locked up I got away with
Starting point is 00:13:57 I'm going to say yeah but everything is he saying something that means like stop snissing on yourself but I just want to know the translation a lot of this stuff had got dropped for lack of evidence yeah we play smart and oh it goes into the thing of like you know like juveniles get everything so easy bro you know when you were juvenile bro you get so many slaps on the wrist like those yeah during COVID yeah too like they'll give you like like something that you would do as a juvenile
Starting point is 00:14:31 like uh would get you like probation to like like some serious shit like stealing a car stealing a car with a gun in the face or somebody and all this type of shit probably only get you like max like six months of juvie or a year or like probation or some little shit like that you do that shit as an adult they're gonna slap you with 10 but have you seen that since you were young that like
Starting point is 00:14:53 because there's a lot of like northern California and Oregon and where like decriminalizing drugs and not locking people up for shit. You sense that on the street as well. It feels like it's a lot harder to get locked up at this point. Like, it just depends on the crime you're doing. Like, if you're doing violent crimes and shit, like, they're going to get you.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Like, they're going to try to get you. But if you're doing, like, little petty shit, like stealing and bipping and robbing and all this shit. Like, if you're robbing civilians, you're kind of dumb, like, they're going to call the cops and you're going to get, like, a case and everything. But if you're, like, hitting licks on, like, Other people in the streets, that's like the smarter move.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Like if they really claim to be street, they wouldn't call the cops on you. So you don't really got to worry about those type of repercussions. So you're saying robbing drug deals was kind of like your thing at one point? That's what you're saying. I can't try to get you. So how old were you when you caught this murder case? 16. 16.
Starting point is 00:15:54 What kind of shit were you getting into at that time of your life? A lot of serious shit Like This is a lot of shit going on in my life You know And I don't really want to talk about the situation Because the case is beat I would talk in a case that I'd beat before
Starting point is 00:16:09 But I don't like to speak on the dead I like to feel like If you speak like It's just really bad Like he's already gone Like what's the point I'm talking about it And say like the parents Like if my kid got killed
Starting point is 00:16:22 If my kid got away with it I'd be upset But if I see them on the internet Tell him the whole story Like I'd be horrified, you know what I mean? I'd be like, damn, so this is how my son went out and all this type of stuff So for the piece of the people and like it was a crazy story like the get away and everything Helicopters like 90 cop car dogs UAV all this type of bullshit But even the initial thing leading up to it, but it was it was a little altercation that just went big for no reason
Starting point is 00:16:51 And so is this somebody that you knew no it's the first time I ever met her but It was a misunderstanding on his part, and he just, you got a little out of hand and try to do some crazy shit. That's a lot of the story already given out. How long were you locked up for? Zero. Oh, so you never got locked up, but you had to fight it? So, no, so I didn't have to fight it. It got dropped.
Starting point is 00:17:24 It wasn't that it was like, it was open and they were investigating, and there was, like, They were bugging for a little bit, like, detectives and all this shit. But after a while, like, you could even read the news report that he had a fake gun on him. Like, the guy, they found a fake gun on his body. Like, not on his body. I don't know where they found out. I didn't really, like, do too much up on it. Like, he had a fake gun.
Starting point is 00:17:46 And, like, basically, it was just a good self-defense case. And they got tried. Yeah, it was a self-defense. So they never even bothered to charge you? No. Wow. And how long was this hanging over your head, though, that you were wondering about it? I was so paranoid about it.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Like, I thought, like, any minute they're going to just come in in my door. Like, because they never gave me information about it. They just said, we're going to, like, follow up with you. And, like, day and night, like, I'm just so paranoid, you know. I'm like, oh, they're going to come in, like, they're going to come kick door. Like, I mean, just pull me on my house. I'm thinking about, like, damn, I got to get out the country. I got to do all this type of shit.
Starting point is 00:18:22 You thought about running? Yeah, like, I didn't know what was going on. But after like a year, I had a lawyer check up on the case. And he was like, oh, no, it's been closed. Wow. But they never told me anything. They just like, we're going to get back to you. And they never got back to me.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Like, they got back to me about saying like, oh, like, little shit. Like, I'm having a brain for it. I mean, you're 16. And you just. This is a while ago. Yeah. And like, you don't really know that much about how the legal system works. I'm assuming.
Starting point is 00:18:56 I did. I did. All of a sudden, you got. thing hanging over your head and like you don't really because I feel like when a really rich rapper like when Gucci main allegedly killed that guy like he got off on self-defense but I'm pretty sure his lawyers were like in immediate communication with the police department and probably like really staying on top of it I would think versus you just being somebody who's like catching their first case and not I think another thing that plays into it why they didn't lock us up is it happened around
Starting point is 00:19:23 COVID right so they wasn't trying to lock people up and uh They weren't, I'm not really too old, but I look a little older, but I'm a little younger. What are you, like 20? I'm 19. 19, Jesus Christ. Yeah, so, I've done a lot of shit that kind of, like, fried my brain a little, like, not too much, but, like, I got really bad memory, you know, so. You're saying you did a bunch of drugs in your life? I didn't do too many, I never got doubled too bad, but I started a little too young, like, way too young, like, around, like, elementary, like, middle school.
Starting point is 00:19:55 You know what Zanz or something? I don't know. I was smoking weed, but that shit fuck you up. You think weed sucks you up, like, just when you're that young? But you don't even know. You don't have a good effect on them. You don't know, but I still tweak out until this day. Like, I still get, like, I'll forget where I'm at. Like, and it happened off, like, but that's such a crazy story.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Like, I know exactly where it led from the day it happened. And it's been, like, four years since I've been, like, four or five years since I've been clean off weed. Do you got too high when you're 16 and you feel like you're still kind of dealing with it? It was around, like, 14, 15, where I started, like, tweaking. Like, like 15. Was it too high? Like, yeah, I got a hell of high. Like, before I used to smoke weed all the time, it was cool.
Starting point is 00:20:34 I got so high. Like, I get PTSD whenever, like, when I smell weed. Or, like, happens when I'm in the backseat of the car at night, like, I'll start tweaking out. Like, my brain, like, I, like, leave my body. Like, it feels so weird. Like, I'll forget who I am. So you'd probably prefer I don't smoke around you?
Starting point is 00:20:50 Please. You're going to start freaking out? Well, first is Ramadan. I'm the love. Okay, break down Ramadan for me. Yeah. Like, what happens during Ramadan? It's the holy month.
Starting point is 00:20:59 So basically what you're doing is you're fasting. It's kind of like remember the other people. But it's only until like 6 or 7 p.m. Right. From like sun up to sun down. Right. But you wake up a little bit. So we have five prayers in Islam.
Starting point is 00:21:15 There's Fajar. There's Isha. There's Mahrab. Doer. Like, my bad. I'm tweaking. Fajar. Asher.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Five. Five prayers. And I'm, I'm, I'm. I'm still like teaching myself everything too because I've been trying to get religious like within this past like a year, year and a half. Before I didn't know nothing, you know. But, you know, we've been all learning together. He's been praying.
Starting point is 00:21:37 We all been trying to pray. Like, we don't really be missing our prayers. But I'll be like, sorry, but I'll be forgetting shit. But Fajar, you got to, it's like at 5 a.m. Prayer that we wake up in the middle of the night. Like, not the middle. It's like when everybody else is sleeping, you're basically, it's like the strongest prayer. Like you're, when everybody else is sleeping and comfy in bed,
Starting point is 00:21:55 you're getting up to praise God. Allah, subhphano'u'll and you busts down the prayer, but that's around the time that the fast ends, right? So you got to eat your Sahur. So Suhah is the last meal type thing that you eat before you begin your fast. Eat your sehore. Pray Fajar. Right, that's how it goes? Yeah, so like you have a set time.
Starting point is 00:22:14 So let's say 4.57 a.m. And then by that time you have to stop eating. So you have your last meal around there. You pray around like 5, 5.20-ish. You pray Fajar. That's like your morning prayer. And then that's pretty much in. And then your fast starts for the whole day.
Starting point is 00:22:26 So you don't eat water, you don't drink. You don't do anything like that, especially no smoking, nothing like that. And then you pray your Zohr, like, around one, and then you pray Ussur, around, like, 3, 4, and then you pray Morgib. And then Mugrib is when you break your fast. So right now is, like, going to be, like, around, like, what, seven? So you guys are starving right now? I mean, I'm chilling.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Yeah, we used to this. You're acting like it's no big deal. But for me, one time I had to not eat for 24 hours because I was getting a colonoscopy, which is basically, they put a little camera up your butt to, like, see if you have cancer or whatever. So I didn't eat for 24 hours Not a gay thing And I'm sure about that way
Starting point is 00:23:03 I swear to go I don't know I'll be human You say gay shit It's because like They gotta like They gotta put a camera in your ass To see if you got cancer growing in there
Starting point is 00:23:12 I'm taking the cancer It's a very small camera I'm taking the cancer row Really camera in your ass is haram I can see it Is haram A lot of shit is haram A lot less than that is Iran.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Yeah. Everything's Haram for a real reason. Right. So. So you grew up Muslim, but you know, you're like kind of on some little kid's shit. And then as you get older, you decide to start taking it more serious? So with the Afghans, they come from like a war-torn country. They're not too, like, how do you say?
Starting point is 00:23:47 Like, they're not too informed themselves for them to teach us and stuff. They put us in, like, low Quran classes and stuff. But that's when we were kids, like, you know, we never really wanted to focus on that type of shit. We just want to go out and play and shit. Mm-hmm. Yeah, so, but, yeah. So as you get older, you start to, like, go out of your way to learn more about it and shit? It's just because, bro, like, you're so confused with life.
Starting point is 00:24:10 You know, sometimes you sit there and you'll think life is so pointless, and we're on this small rock and all this stuff. You know, like, I was just lost. I was just confused, and I was, like, you know, like, when you're lost, you get, like, depressed and all this type of stuff. I just wanted to find, like, the real reason and the real purpose, and I started to do my research and stuff. And, like, if you think about it, bro, like, everybody's going to die, you know?
Starting point is 00:24:32 Nothing's going to go with you. I know you got a lot of money. Your money's going to go with you when you die? Probably go to my family. Okay, but it's not going to go with you to the grave, you know? No, no. And, like, at the end of the day, like, all this shit's useless, and this life is just, like, a test. So why would I spend my life just, like, doing all this, like, you know, like, for instance, like, you, like, what they would call it?
Starting point is 00:24:55 you in Islam is a da'ut. Define that. A daute is, like, somebody who doesn't get jealous over their wife, somebody who, like, I'm not trying to say you pimpe your wife, I mean, kind of, pimpe your wife, you know what I mean? Like, they say, like, that's the type of guy that God would never let into heaven. Right. Because, like, it's so, like, how could you do, like, such a bad? I didn't even RSVP. I don't even believe in God.
Starting point is 00:25:24 What? I don't believe in God. Was R's VP? RASVP. Like when you're going to go to a party, you have to fill out like a form online. I'm not even trying to get into heaven. I've already accepted. Hell awaits.
Starting point is 00:25:34 I like you did some idea with the devil or something? Not even a deal. I just don't believe in any of it. Have you done some research on it before? Yeah. But honestly, it was a long time ago because I figured as soon as I found out there were people that didn't believe in God, I was like, oh, that's me. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:48 So, you know, no matter what sin you've ever done in your whole entire life, if you convert to Islam, everything will be forgiven. And it's like even all the little stupid stuff that you post on the internet, I don't think you even have to take it down once you're a new person. Like once you join Islam, it's like you're a new person.
Starting point is 00:26:03 That's like the big promise of all the religions, though, because Christianity, I grew up in that, they're saying the same thing. Like, once you go to God, then everything is forgiven. You know, I'm not too informed to speak on certain subjects, but you know there's this good sheikh out here. His name is Sheikh Asman from San Diego. He's like, I don't know if you know some guy named Sneco.
Starting point is 00:26:20 I do. Yeah, like, one of my favorite Muslims. I don't know what type of like, I don't know the politics behind all these little YouTubers and he converted like three months ago. Yeah, but he'd be hanging out with that guy. I don't know if you see that one like Pakistani guy with the beard. He'd be hanging out with.
Starting point is 00:26:32 And he'd be like getting on live with him trying to have him talk with like Jidian and all these type of people. Okay. Yeah, like, I think he's from like San Diego or something. I mean, that's someone that's really informative that like I kind of like watching too, that someone you could like get your information from.
Starting point is 00:26:47 What was the like, Have you ever read a Quran? No. Have you heard like? I read a lot about it. But you hear like, I always said so many miracles and how it's like found out stuff before science and how it's like written so perfect that like no human could have wrote it like has so many like what's that thing
Starting point is 00:27:04 called like plays on words or like analogies. I don't know like so like it'll have like one story would be like a specific number of words and like I don't know how to explain it but like all this coming from a man who couldn't read her right. Most of the stuff I've read about the Quran is like focused on how it has like different characteristics than the Bible. in the sense that it's very easy to read the Quran and interpret it literally and to decide that the meaning of it is basically that we should like, you know, kill apostates and people
Starting point is 00:27:36 who aren't part of our religion and shit. So I brought you a gift at him. A Quran to call my own? Holy shit. So this is the English Quran. Maybe I'll read it. I would appreciate it if you read it because it's a gift, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:50 and I don't give nobody gifts like that. From Ronda. But, you know, you could get like some research and I know like you do research on all these rappers and all this time Like if you just put like a little bit of time and just like you know like this is me like No I appreciate like like like I want you to go to heaven at the very least I'm gonna put it up here Right next to the box of whoops well like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like I don't like like like like I don't like like like I don't know I think it belongs in that shelf though because that shell I have like a girl
Starting point is 00:28:27 Oh that's a flashlight Yeah Old English You guys with flashlights No no no But like if you take it home you can put it in like your little library That was a good one I was an honest question
Starting point is 00:28:39 Hey like you're on your dean But then at some point you got to go back home And you gotta No You gotta jerk off or whatever right Or use a flashlight That's just like a little too down bad You guys say the on your dean?
Starting point is 00:28:53 thing though that's what I picked up from like hanging out with the Philly rappers like listening to them yeah we're on our dean I don't know if everything translates but okay it's kind of like a I don't put the weed next to the crime okay we're gonna take that put there right there good point well actually it's right yeah yeah I just move it right in front of myself
Starting point is 00:29:09 like this yeah better because it's kind of like a trend at this point people like Sneako Andrew Tate but then even within rap you go like a lot of the Chicago BDs like Tay Savage and a little dirk and stuff who are kind of getting into the Muslim thing.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Like, how do you feel seeing people who don't really have, like, a connection to it, discovering it? Is that dope for you as somebody who's been around? I love it, bro. I love it. You know, I love all Muslims. I love everybody. We're all brothers.
Starting point is 00:29:37 We're all brothers and sisters. And Islam, there's no race. There's no race. We're all, like, one people. And we're, like, the slaves of God. And, yeah, bro, you see that Islam is the fastest growing religion. And I don't think it would be for no reason. see a lot of pastors converting to Islam, but you don't really see no sheikhs converting to
Starting point is 00:29:57 Christianity. And if you do, you'll see like 10 pastors convert to Islam to that like one. You know what I mean? Like, it's the fastest growing religion. You know, it's like all this stuff can't be for no reason. You can't think all these people just like did this shit for no reason. Do you think you would get along better with somebody who's not religious at all or somebody who's Christian? So like they're religious, but they just believe in a totally different religion? Yeah, probably the Christian You know, in Islam we're taught to love Our Christians and the
Starting point is 00:30:27 The Jews too, right? Like, all religion. Yeah, you're supposed to treat everybody with respect And We don't really got problems with all Jews We just don't like the Jews that support the genocide In Israel I don't know how I haven't had sleep in like four days
Starting point is 00:30:43 What are you doing up there? Why are you not sleeping for four days? We drove, one of the homies just got killed You know, too. It's how little hectic, right? Right now, everything's crazy, but It's just hell of shit going on And we'd be hell of busy, bro, behind the scenes.
Starting point is 00:30:58 We'd be doing a lot of shit. We'd be doing a lot of traveling, and we'd be doing like late, Like last night we were up until 4 a.m., 4 or 5 a.m., me and him, we was out with like M3s, nah, what was it, like a M competition? We'd just be doing shit, bro, like, We'd just be doing random shit. But you guys are sober?
Starting point is 00:31:16 You're really not getting fucked up? Nah, we'd be sober. Especially because of Ramadan or just in general? you don't you don't fuck with drugs or alcohol or anything I just personally like I like being sober I see not smile I've heard that a lot of people I'm sober I can't speak for everybody else in the room
Starting point is 00:31:33 I hear that there's a lot of people claiming to be sober and claiming to be keeping shit sacred and everything but then when it actually comes down to it they're actually just having a good all the time in the streets true or false oh my bad hold on what is this? You're about to eat a date y'all got some water in here
Starting point is 00:31:53 they can go grab you some water you're supposed to like that's the way to do it like with a date and water why a date you're on the tribal nah I fuck with fig Newton's honestly I'm good
Starting point is 00:32:06 yeah that's just like kind of always been paranoid I never really wanted to eat one of those you don't want to eat Muslim stuff it's very sweet it's just that in general I don't know it's just never I have never I see a fig I want to get on I'm gonna be real with you
Starting point is 00:32:20 I'll wait till you're done eating it We gotta bust our prayer real quick. Yeah. What does that actually look like when you pray? You guys are down to do it mid-podcast? I don't know. Is it clean in here? Of course, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:33 You do that plug-tug shit over here? That's on the other side. You don't do nothing like... Nobody fucks in here. Nobody's in here. I don't think I ever fucking... We were gonna do that outside. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:43 You didn't even want to sit on the couches and stuff. We don't know what you're doing around here. No, there's very little sex happening here. I want to see, but you guys have to hit the floor to do it? Yeah, but you gotta eat a day if you want to watch this. I'll step outside. Okay, we back in it. Wow.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Well, start now. Yo, for the people at home, this will be like old news to them already by the time this comes out, but these guys just got to witness the infamous Brick Baby crash out of 2024. Brick Baby showed up, and there was a lot of... A lot of aggression. What was that like for you guys to just witness that? You probably think of those jumbers like that all the time now. Shit. We were just minding our business. We don't really care too much.
Starting point is 00:33:26 We was just trying to play a game of pool. Yeah. We were, we saw you guys pray outside, and then we came back into, like, very different energy. Oh, no, yeah. Brick baby walked in the baby. He said, what is what is? And then he walked in the little room, and he did his little dougie. We wasn't really watching the TV too much, but then we started peeking over. You start getting a little angry, but I don't know the politics behind that. I don't really know LA politics, you know, but whatever they had going on, shit, they did that thing.
Starting point is 00:33:58 They don't really know. I don't really care. Just crips on crips on crips on crips. They just, there's like three different types of crips involved in this situation alone. You got the insains, the 40s, and the 60s all mixing in the guy. I'm just trying to stay out of it. But damn, so where were we? How was praying in our parking lot?
Starting point is 00:34:19 It's just like praying normally. It was decent. It wasn't too bad. It wasn't dirty. From my perspective, like one person kind of takes the lead. They go in the front. That's when you pray in a group. You could pray in a group.
Starting point is 00:34:31 You could pray by yourself too. But when you pray in a group, one person leads it and one person calls it. So this time, usually when we pray, he calls it and he does it. But this time, he called the prayer and he guided. So we just followed after. He says everything out of life. We just follow him. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:34:48 No, that was dope. So what do people need to know about your culture and what you guys haven't going on that people don't understand? Like what are the stereotypes do you have to deal with? Taliban? I don't know. I don't know. People still doing Taliban jokes? Like, what do they say to us?
Starting point is 00:35:10 Yeah. They say shit to us. But you guys are in your own fucking world anyway, right? We'd be in our own lane. We should be chilling. Right. We should be vibed. We should have fun.
Starting point is 00:35:20 You don't have to deal with, like, too many other races. or groups? You're in your own little community and shit. How other people will be trying to click up with us and stuff? We don't like to politic with other people. We just stick to ourselves. And we just, we handle long as we know we don't really need nobody.
Starting point is 00:35:40 I've been just trying to get my foot in the music game, you know, like I've been getting good buzz after like three songs. I've been trying to work with other artists, but the thing is we're like, I've got to be a little careful. I'll be a little careful because I'll be trying to move like five steps ahead.
Starting point is 00:35:53 and stuff, but when you make a song with a California artist, it gets he's hella political. Like, you make a song with one rapper, you won't be able to make a song with a whole other group of rappers. Like, you know, like, it falls into, like, a banner of, like, one side or the other. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:36:09 And then it gets you like, it cuts off a lot of opportunities in, like, the music game. So right now, I just like, if I was trying to work with anybody, I'd try to work with, like, people out of state, like Detroit or Philly. I don't fuck with that one rapper. like OT7 Quani and from Detroit, FWC, Big Key.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Shout up Big Key, the biggest app. He's locked up, right? It's like free key. I think you got locked up again, yeah. Free key. I'm not to tap him with him when to get out. Free Rio. Free Rio.
Starting point is 00:36:36 I fog with Baby Tron. I like Baby Tron. Otis 7 Quine was supposed to do an interview months ago, but he kept like not booking a date with Laura and he would just show up at the store and then text me and be like, yo, let's do an interview. And I'm like, bro, I got like four other interviews today.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Like you got a, we got a plan. playing the shit out a little bit. He's busy. Because he's dope, but he doesn't seem very organized. But I'm not glad he had some catchy-y-ass bars to be stuck in my head. Yeah, he's funny. But what made you actually really want to rap? I had like two homies rapping before me,
Starting point is 00:37:09 Money Made and Taliban Heem. But there was, there was like, I'm not going to speak on the street situation, but there wasn't like knees deep, you know what I mean? But they did their little things, but I fought with them. They're my brothers and stuff, but, you know, they was making the music, but they eventually just, like, stop dropping. They were really inconsistent, and I tried to help them. Like, at that time, you know, I couldn't even rap.
Starting point is 00:37:38 I couldn't even put two bars together, you know what I mean? Like, I used to think, like, oh, rapping is something that just comes to you, you know, like, oh, you're either born or whatever, you're not. It's not. It's like something you learn. Like, these two, they're the ones that got me into rap. We'd be up late at night, like 3 a.m., just freestyle. They'd be freestyle, and they'd make me, like, force me to hop in.
Starting point is 00:37:56 And I'd have, like, shit-ass ABC bars, like, some shit that, like, so ass. But, like, you know, you slowly start somewhere. Within, like, a couple years, I start getting better. And then we'd freestyle all the time. And eventually, you got, like, a little decent. I still wouldn't say I'm good. You know, I critique my music so much that I never even want to drop my music. Like, I have to have, like, the homie.
Starting point is 00:38:16 They'll tell me that they'll be like, brother, that shit's fire, drop it. But I critique my own work so much that, like, like I'm a perfectionist like I want it to be good and I know my shit's still not good like music is like it's like art
Starting point is 00:38:28 you know like so many different types of music that I'm trying to learn like like all the different types like you know there's like all right you master singing I mean you master rapping I kind of get into like singing
Starting point is 00:38:41 like little dirk you know what I mean he'll be like sing rapping or like writing good hooks like I'm still trying to work on like riding catchy hooks and stuff you know I'm just like learning all this little shit Definitely, yeah I mean, Dirk is somebody
Starting point is 00:38:53 Who kind of like conquered drill rap And then gradually like took influence From people like Future And like kind of moved past it And showed that he could become like a real artist But he got like his initial fan base From talking about all this crazy Chicago street stuff
Starting point is 00:39:07 But did you want to be a rapper Before the murder case Or did that bring it out of you? I never really wanted to be a rapper I just want money I mean all the shit that we do out here it's like haram and like doing a lot of people greasing doing all this type of shit
Starting point is 00:39:24 and making music's haram too that's a little less of a thing like I'd rather not like finesse people and jag people and hurt people and make that type of haram money I'd rather make like music money you know it's like it feels better and to me I was just talking to this Philadelphia rapper Freeway
Starting point is 00:39:45 from back in the day he was with Jay-Z and shit and he's super Muslim And we were talking about that, how it's technically not permissible to make music, in particular if the music isn't promoting God, right? Yeah, music is harang. I feel bad making music, but I got to feed my family and stuff. I got to make a way to this little stuff. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:08 No, that makes sense. But I don't know. Like, you're turning yourself in soon, right? It's not turning in. I'm just fighting the big case. And I just went to court a couple of days ago before I came here. And they gave me, like, an extension. So they let me be out for a little longer.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Like, the case was supposed to finalize this last one. But there's a lot of shit going on in the case where our lawyer had, like, a chance to get a little extension for, like, a month or two. What was this case about? I can't talk about it. Okay. It's ongoing. ongoing. Ongone.
Starting point is 00:40:49 But you already got sentenced? No, no, no. I was supposed to have sentencing. Like, I was supposed to have my court date. It's just, court is so complicated, but I was supposed to have my court date to see how long I was going. Like, you accept, like, a plea deal or you go to trial and all this stuff. And then, then you have sentencing where you, like, go in. I'm pretty sure that's how it works.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Right. And so how long you think you might end up going away? I don't know. We didn't go to the, we were supposed to. it was supposed to be this one where they were telling me, but they didn't tell me. But I have an estimation, but... A couple years, or... Something like that.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Something like that. Not in the high, not in the high, but it was talking about, toxics are like one to three. Okay. Yeah, something like that. And are you already, without even having to go in, are you already looking at your life and thinking that you want to start living differently, or is this just how shit goes?
Starting point is 00:41:47 You know, me and the homies, we talk about this stuff all the time, especially when we're kids, we're like, we'd be seeing, like, grown-ass men walking up and down the street, like, oh, this gang, this gang, oh, bro, you know, like,
Starting point is 00:42:01 at this grown-ass age, like, how are you still gonna, like, want to do all this, like, street shit? You know, like, we always agreed, like, by the age of 30, we have at least have, like, at least tried or, like, changed our lives, you know what I mean,
Starting point is 00:42:12 to, like, at least be, like, well, money, or with God, with God, especially. To be honest, like, I don't even want to be a rapper, realistically, but, like, I want to be a firefighter.
Starting point is 00:42:26 What is it about the firefighter thing? You want to be a hero? Look, doctors, you know, this isn't, like, if you kill somebody, it's like you killed all of humanity. If you save a life,
Starting point is 00:42:37 it's like you saved all of humanity, right? Although I'm pretty sure that's what they say, right? And you're kind of down on the scoreboard right now? You got some make enough to do No, it's not even that It might be I look
Starting point is 00:42:52 So To become a doctor You know a lot of people Become a doctor To save lives and all that stuff But that takes hell of years And like Being a firefighter just looks cool
Starting point is 00:43:03 But you're also saving lives It's basically accomplished The money is pretty good I believe The schedule You could be like a volunteer I wouldn't really do it for the money The schedule though
Starting point is 00:43:12 If you actually get into it as a career I was talking to somebody the other day in the airport about being a firefighter. They told me it's super political. Like you got to be getting along with the right people in order to advance in the firefighter world and shit. I'm like, wow, it sounds like everything else. Well, that's something I wanted to be as of like the past, like, recent years. But growing up, I always wanted to be like a Navy seal or a boxer. I want to be a boxer or an MMA fighter because I just love fighting.
Starting point is 00:43:36 You know, like. But all these have the same thing in common that you want to like be like a champion or like a hero or like, you want to go through some sort of like quest. to prove yourself. Well, I was boxing. It was helping me stay off the streets when I was young, like, back when I was 16. Like, that was when I was, like, a little...
Starting point is 00:43:52 Like, I was crazy before that, and I was crazy after. But in that time, like, I was boxing. I was still getting into a lot of fights and, like, doing other little stuff, but it was when I was, like, kind of slowing down and I was really focused on becoming, like, a boxer because I was actually really good, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:44:04 And then COVID came, and all the gyms closed down and everything closed down. It was, like, nothing left to do. And, like, that's what, like, really... It should start, like, getting back in, and like, shit like that. You know what I'm trying to say? An idle mind is the devil's playground.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Meaning when you all got shit going on, you're going to start doing some bad shit. Oh, all right. That's a good quote. That's pretty smart. You can use that. I'm going to gift you that. What was it a gift?
Starting point is 00:44:32 An idle mind is the devil's playground. That's why you take your kid and you put them in eight fucking extracurricular activities so that they don't have any free time after school to get into some fuck shit. You're going to catch this guy. I'll probably put that shit in his body. you after this shit.
Starting point is 00:44:47 It's funny because you will. I'll tell you. Definitely. What was I saying? Yeah, I wanted to be like a boxer at M.M.A. fighter. That's what I really wanted to be. Like, that was my favorite thing in the world.
Starting point is 00:45:00 And my dad wanted me to be too. My dad was always pushing me to become like some sort of fighter, you know? Like he wanted to become like a champion and shit. Number one. He wanted me to put on for the Afghans and stuff. But it's a lot of fucking hard work. Oh, I was down.
Starting point is 00:45:16 I was putting in Mamba mentality hours. Oh, shit. I was going like, I was running in the morning. I'm introduced to the 22 mentality. What's that? It's like the Mamba mentality. It's the exact same thing. Okay, let me hear it.
Starting point is 00:45:28 It's just... This is the same shit? You just got to over whoop. I don't know. I was pushing the 22 mentality. The book, it's over there, right? I think there's a copy of it somewhere. Somebody, like, my boy, Michael bought me the Brown James book.
Starting point is 00:45:41 No, it's like, it says the Mamba mentality. I think he just scribbled like a two. 22 over the Mamba part. I don't know. But either way, y'all. Okay. So what do you got planned or like what's coming up in your life? And what's going on?
Starting point is 00:45:56 You know, Al-Han Dala, but life is good. Life is good right now. I have plans, but nothing crazy. In the meantime, I leave my life up to God. Like, you know, this whole time, everything's just been happening on its own, you know? Like, I dropped the song, and everything just happened on the song. I didn't really plan most of this.
Starting point is 00:46:11 I planned a lot of it, but I didn't plan, like, all this type of stuff. Everything just happening on it so on. I'm just letting fate roll out. I trust God. You know, like any situation that happens, like if we take the wrong turn on the freeway or something, I know it's for a reason. It wasn't for no reason.
Starting point is 00:46:26 Like, I know everything has a reason, you know? Don't take offense to this, but I feel like Allah has a bit of a sense of humor because he put me and Tommy G. into your life, and it's kind of ironic that a couple of white boys might have changed your life in such a way. Not a lot of Afghan hip-hop podcast, so it was probably going to have to be that way. I don't know if Allah, you could say that he has a sense of humor.
Starting point is 00:46:52 But he's great. He's perfect. For sure. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I'm still not sure if I should put the Quran. No, no.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Don't put it in the flesh light. No, no. I don't want to get a fatwa put on me. I don't know. That's black. You don't know about the fatwa? That's black magic, right? No, Fatto is just like, that's just like kind of like preaching.
Starting point is 00:47:14 It's like if you're such an op of the Muslims that every Muslim has to try to kill you. I don't think that's what fuck. Yeah, it is. They had one on Salman Rushdie because he wrote this book called the Satanic Verses. And I think he was like Iranian. Still to this day, Muslims try to kill him everywhere he goes. We don't know talking about Salman Rusty? I'm 99, 99% sure you're uninformed.
Starting point is 00:47:37 No, they stabbed him in the fucking face. Okay, but that doesn't mean every Muslim. I'm like, I'm not by everyone, but like, I don't even find it all year. Certain Muslims hear this and they're like, okay, we're on him. There's different groups of Muslims. Like, there's, there's the Sunni, we're Sunny. And then, uh, the Sunni and the Shia. Then there's, uh, what is it, Wahhabi?
Starting point is 00:47:57 There's, uh, what's the other one? Anafi. Anafi. O Block? What, what, I don't know. There's, there's different ones, but, uh, basically, maybe it's one of those other groups. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Yeah, it's probably some other dudes. For sure. All right, so what should people search up if they want to tap in with your music? What song would you recommend? I mean, they're all decent. You got three out right now, right? Those are just the videos?
Starting point is 00:48:29 No, just three songs in total. I got a fourth one coming out like these next two, three days. I got a couple more. I've been making some, good shit. I'd just be halla lazy, but I just make music at random times. I don't go to a studio.
Starting point is 00:48:44 I just make my shit in my room. Like, I bought the equipment and shit. Like, I just watched a YouTube video on how to do it. And then I had a friend, he kind of, like, kind of bitched up. But he was making music before me. And he taught me, I feel like he was getting a little jealous
Starting point is 00:49:00 or something, because he was making music for, like, three years. And I made it for, like, a month and already had more streams than all of his songs combined and shit, you know? And he, but at that time, like, he would record me. He recorded my first, first song. And then he started getting, like, hella jealous. And he's like, oh, I don't want to record you no more.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Figure it out yourself. Like, start learning yourself and shit. And so then I started, I'm a quick learner. I figure everything out myself. Like, I teach myself everything. So I'm like a man of many talents. I like to learn. I'm always learning.
Starting point is 00:49:32 I'm a student of everything. So he showed me, and then I learned a lot of it off YouTube. So what I do now is I just record like my vocals and my adlibs. I put the beat. I know how to put everything nice and organized. And then I just export it and send it to my boy, shout out Jha, the producer. J-A-A-A-H- underscore on Instagram, J-A-A-H-Ur on Instagram, J-A-A-H. That's bruh.
Starting point is 00:49:57 For sure. Yeah, man, I'm fucking with the whole movement and stuff. The music's good. And you guys definitely got a crazy story. Thank you for also teaching me about your culture and everything. Yeah. Appreciate it. You fuck with Afghan food
Starting point is 00:50:10 I'm down with whatever You ever had like A kebab? Not a date Yeah I was just in Turkey I was just in Turkey How the hell of kebab You feel like kebab
Starting point is 00:50:18 I don't know what That is exactly Kare khabab It's like a type of meat You've had Kada kibabaab Before for sure Maybe 100%
Starting point is 00:50:25 I think he has You for sure had Kibabaab experience That I've ever had With the Armenians It was like They just have this Like giant piece of bread
Starting point is 00:50:34 And then they had All these skewers Of like steak And like fucking liver and shit on top of it and you just take like just rip off chunks of this like giant piece of bread and just like scooping up meat
Starting point is 00:50:46 and just eating it off the grill and it was so good you guys ever just stand around a grill and just eat straight off the grill? Yeah. Like just take the kebab off the of the skewer and eat it? Yeah it's like at least a little bit. You gotta let it cool down a little.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Yeah we let it cool down. Yeah, yeah. But that's one thing I learned from the Armenians is to just eat the meat with just a tiny little piece of. Armenian. They're dope. There's a lot of overlap with your culture, I think.
Starting point is 00:51:12 They speak Farsi, right? Some of them, yeah. Yeah, they do. They do. They speak like a weird type of force, you know? They do? I don't know. I've heard some of the Armenians speak Farsi.
Starting point is 00:51:21 Some of them do, yeah. A lot of the Armenians, there always are like a conversation about who's whitewashed and who isn't, meaning like who's staying true to the Armenian culture versus who's, like, being too affected by American culture. You all want to talk about that? Wait, say it again, bro. I'm lost. Like, basically, like, some of the Armenians will be accusing each other of being
Starting point is 00:51:42 whitewashed and shit. Oh, yeah. We'll do that. Like, if we run into, like, a white-washed ass-ahsagging, I'd be like, you're a white guy, but you're white-washed, but, like, some people, they don't even know they're, like, see, me personally, I can't, like, get mad at them because, like, me personally, I'm not the best in my own language. But you're, like, black-washed, because you said that N-word shit, right?
Starting point is 00:52:02 Man. That's got, like, a different version of it, right? Because with the Armenians, you can pat. A lot of them could pass for white. I don't know what it is in L.A., but in the Bay is different. Like, I don't know the politics of everywhere else, but it's just what everybody's saying to the Bay is cool. Like, it's got his hoods, but the Bay is treacherous, bro. It's like really Gotham, bro.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Honestly, I lived in New York for a long time. I lived in L.A. for a long time. It's like all the Mexicans and whoever says it. You went to the Bay? Yeah. Like you lived there? No, but I've been there mad times over the years. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:38 San Francisco was a fucking war zone. I went there. Last time I went there probably was like middle of COVID, and it was the craziest. Last time I went, San Francisco, I've been going like since 2008, and I went in 2020.
Starting point is 00:52:51 What do you think like over, like, when you first went there and when you see it now, like how drastic of a difference is it to like what you see? It's fucked. It was always pretty crazy,
Starting point is 00:53:00 but it's like really fucked now. The crime is so much worse. At all, I feel like it really all got bad when they passed that law for shoplifting for like when they said like over 950 or something. I remember when it first got passed like two, three years ago.
Starting point is 00:53:13 It's unfortunate because I feel like the only solution is to just lock up way more people. But that's probably what they're going to do. Room for the people in the jail. You know, build some new jails. I mean, it's kind of like that. It's a small island. It's a small island.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Yeah. I don't think. Ship them out to Kentucky. They probably got some room. Reopened Alcatraz. Yeah, why not? I don't know. Why did they even close it?
Starting point is 00:53:35 I don't know. I don't know. Switch it up. You think jail is, like rehabilitate people like they like fix them and throw them back in the society or what i i definitely see the problem with jail i just also at a certain point when you have like societies like washington and oregon and san franciscoe are like seemingly overrun with criminals it's kind of like i don't see what you're going to do besides just start charging people more aggressively
Starting point is 00:53:58 and actually locking people up and make them scared to be doing crazy-ass crimes and shit there's a lot of crash out there yeah i don't think they really care about the time yeah they don't care about Why would people shoot up schools if they're not going to do life? They're not going to get away with it. Shooting up a school is pretty much like, I want to die slash, get locked up for the rest of my life. There's going to be thousands of those people throughout life. Yeah. But I'm talking about more moderate criminals, like people who are doing shoplift and shit
Starting point is 00:54:23 or people who are just being crazy as drug dealers and shit. Just cut their hands off if they shoplift, cut a finger off. Whoa, that's going back to your country, right? Instead of jail, they should do that. I mean, be honest, Adam. If you went to the store and store right now, like, say, were broke, like you would go steal, right? But say if you saw them
Starting point is 00:54:40 put somebody's hand on the table for stealing would you steal. Well, that's the same logic of why they probably need to throw half of San Francisco in jail. Nobody's scared of that shit. I'm just saying, don't do that, guys. Yeah. Don't do that. But what do you think about what's going
Starting point is 00:54:56 on in Israel and Palestine? I try to stay out of it. But, all right. I listen to a lot of podcasts about it. I don't have any easy answers, and I don't feel like it's really my area expertise, so I don't really get into it. You haven't seen, like, all the children, like, getting killed
Starting point is 00:55:11 and all this stuff? Like, what do you feel about that? That's what happens in war. No, but this is not a war. This is, like... Well, it's, like, one of our longest standing wars. Like, when we drop nukes on Japan, a lot of kids died then, too,
Starting point is 00:55:27 but ultimately we decided it was for the best. But this is, like, ongoing for no reason. They'll try to say that it's for a reason. Like, that's... You throwing a pebble at me, I whip out my fucking grenade launcher. Sure. You know what I mean? Like, it's an overkill. I mean, Hamas could stop it all right now if they just
Starting point is 00:55:40 release the hostages. Or, bro, they've been doing a whole genocide. Yeah, just, hey, bro, I took you, bro. You took my people? Israel's made a lot of attempts at peace. So, bro, I think you're just... It's tough to have... I think you're brainwashed out of it. I think you brainwashed.
Starting point is 00:55:55 It's tough to, like... It's tough to really go for peace when you've got neighbors that are sworn to your destruction. But again, I don't really get into this. What do you think? You think he's brainwashed? I don't even believe in God That's like Brainwashed I know and I am against the idea of Israel
Starting point is 00:56:12 Existing in the first place Because I think that the idea of a country Existing solely for a religion is wrong However if anybody's gonna have their own country It should probably be the Jews since Throughout all of history Pretty much everybody's been trying to kill the Jews Fuck him
Starting point is 00:56:26 Okay I appreciate you being real Because I know how that's how you all feel about They don't understand It just depends on what type of Jew it is That's for them. For me? All of them. Respect for keeping it real, because a lot of people try to sanitize their opinion about it.
Starting point is 00:56:43 No, I don't sanitize shit. I stand on business. And I stand on. Bro, they know that I say whatever's on my mind. I'm not scared over it. And I don't care if I'm whatever for these people, what they got to say. I'll tell you whatever's on my mind all the time. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:56:56 Like, I don't care if like, I won't sign no fucking deal if they say something. Like, I got to say this type of shit. Say this. No, bro. Like, I would never say my soul. I would never lie. if the Jew Like there's Jews
Starting point is 00:57:07 There's good people There's bad people There's good Jews There's good Jews There's Jews that support it There's Jews that do not support What's going on in Israel So why would you
Starting point is 00:57:15 Say fuck them Jews There's some Jews That don't support it? Yeah Yeah Don't fuck those Jews Yeah Don't fuck those Jews
Starting point is 00:57:23 It's not fuck those Jews You see What I say I changed his mind On some like You know Right We cleaned it up a little bit
Starting point is 00:57:31 No But if that's really His opinion I wouldn't care That's my opinion. But you see, he just had a misconduct. But, like, the majority of Palestinians think that the Jews basically need to be eradicated. No.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Right? Nobody fucking does that. When you look at the polling, it's staggering. It's not. It's not like a fringe opinion. No, bro. And most of them support Hamas. Bro, I support Hamas.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Well. Real hell of you. Real shit. If you're going to go and do a genocide, these are the people, this is like the Taliban, bro. Like, the fucking, what are the Americans come to Afghanistan for? It's not really much of a genocide. genocide when the population's booming. Who's what?
Starting point is 00:58:06 Bro, they, bro, what if they fucking knocked off half of L.A.? But I'm saying, like, over the past couple of decades, it's not like
Starting point is 00:58:12 the population is actually hurting. Like, if they were trying to eradicate them, they were doing a pretty terrible job. Bro, they just fucking bombed all of Gaza. Well, that's war.
Starting point is 00:58:25 It's not war when the fucking, they're not going to Israel. Just because it's unfair, just because one side is more well equipped than the other, who's equipping them? It's still war. Who's equipping him?
Starting point is 00:58:35 Joe Biden, baby. We need Trump We need Trump I knew this is going there Where's Trump, bro? Trump 24 Make Gaza great again Hey I appreciate you guys for real
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