No Jumper - Amarni On Being From Australia, Going Viral On TikTok & More

Episode Date: December 20, 2023

Australian pop/R&B singer Amarni links up with Sharp to talk about working with legends at a very young age, how to navigate the industry as a woman, and asks Sharp for relationship advice. ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumperofficial     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Sharp Tank, no jumper, sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. And today, I have a lovely lady by the name of Amarni, right? Yeah, that's right. How you get that name? When I came out the womb. Came out the womb? I just wanted to make show, you know, if you didn't, if it was your real name, you know what I'm saying? Everybody asked me that, yeah.

Because it sounded like a, you know, made up name. You know, so your mama was being very creative that night. She knew a star baby was coming out. She knew a Star Baby was coming out. So you're saying that name stands for Star Baby. We're going to put the lingo behind it. That's just, yeah. That's just what I came up with.

You're just too cool for school, ain't you? She's just too cool for school. How you doing, baby? I'm good. I'm good. How are you? I'm doing great. It's good to, you know, have a good Australian in the building.

Yeah, that's right, you know. We're just different. Right? Right. Why Australia are you from? From Sydney, Australia. Sydney? Mm-hmm.

That's what we're considering one of the big cities over there, right? That's the city. That's the city. You want to come to Australia? Come to Sydney. No, you got people from all gold. You know, gold coach. You got people from everywhere, you know.

I feel like Sydney's like the L.A. of Australia. There you go. So that's where you get like this fashion state from, oh, baby, you go down on Melrose, baby. You go down places from here. You go, man, West Hollywood. changes. Trust me.

It gets crazy. I like the, like the the K-pop dance hall type of look. Right. It's going. It's fucking fitting. This is actually my label.

Yeah. My own fashion label. What does it say? You got it? What's that? Norama. In-Nrama. It's my name backwards,

but it's my own fashion label. Yeah. It's, huh? It felt like it was so dope. make it go backwards. Yeah, exactly. I'm not mad at it. Well, you know, I love fashion, too,

so it only made sense. Yeah. You live in L.A. now, or do you still in Australia? Not yet. I'm still in Australia, but I spend a lot of time out here, you know. I love it out here. It's just like, it's just lots of motion for me,

so it's where I need to be right now. It's how you're used to that shit because you're like, it's kind of like Sydney, just, you know what? Maybe a step, notch a little pace, a little faster. Yeah, exactly. I ain't mad at that, baby. Mm-hmm. For real.

What made you, you know what I'm saying? You obviously you do music. You know what I'm saying? You do kind of like a hip-hop, R&B dance hall type of feel. Like, honestly, I'm at the hip-hop and R&B mixture. But like the dance hall, like elaborate on that a little bit, you know? I'd say, like, I'm a dancer too. So, you know, I dance dance.

And I feel like when I make. Strip club dancer. Oh, no, no. Because when they say dance down here, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's like, yeah, you were. Not that, not that. You work at Sam's. Like, choreography, like a real, like, you know, I can put on a real show.

So when I make music, it's like, it has to make me feel something. It has to make me want to move. Like, I love, don't get me wrong, when I'm, like, by myself in the car, I like to listen to sad shit and, like, you know, when I'm going through something. But, like, ultimately, I love to make music that's going to make everyone want to hang off the ceiling. Are you into, like, opi, like that opium style type of feel music? No, no, I don't like that. I just learned with that.

was. Yeah. I just start hearing that recently, like, you know, the opium look, you know, where everybody dresses really dark. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I appreciate it though. Like, I can appreciate music that of genres I don't specifically like to listen to. I can appreciate it because as an artist, I know what goes into it, you know, but personally,

like for me, I like to make, I like to make wild shit. So dance hall for you is like things you can really dance to. all night long. Yeah, I wouldn't say I'm in the dance hall genre. I have made dance hall records, but like I just like to make shit that makes people feel something. Because the moment I hear, I hear music, like, whatever I'm feeling in my body is like, is what it is, you know?

So that's really important for me when I'm making music. I think you did a joint, like, you do a joint called Beyonce, you did something like that? Mm-hmm. What the fuck made you do that? Yeah, I was going through a breakup at the time And, you know, I was just I was just talking about, you know, me and my goals What we need, where we're at

And, you know, like, just getting to the money Who's your girls? Just some... It sound like some shit on like I'm talking to move on all along Who's your girls? You're going to come to Australia and see? Hell, y'all want to come to Australia Yeah

You'll invite me? We got the baddest out there. I know y'all do. Trust me. I was having them long time ago, baby. I was hip to that vibe maybe 15 years ago. He's like, I've been doing this. About 15 years ago, I was hip to that vibe. I won out of Gold Coast, yeah.

Gold Coast, oh, you know, Gold Coast, they're like a different type of wild. They're like thongs in the club type of thing. You know, she's bad than a motherfucker. Blondie, slim, ready. Those are my three, you know. He sounded like he went back to that exact moment. For real, I did.

I relaxed. His eyes were a little bit more close. He's like, blind. But don't mind me. You know, you're making the song Beyonce continue. You're saying you're talking about like your friend, you and your girls. We're going to some things. Yeah, it was just a vibe.

And, you know, I was just talking about, you know, what we expect, what we want. And then Beyonce just happened. I put it out. And, I mean, nine months later, it just took off. And it's still going today. It's been like almost two years. And it's... Very beautiful girl.

Thank you. Vibrant. Thank you. Ready. Do you feel like that had a lot to do with probably your music blowing up? Because, you know, I feel like it's not just the lyrics these days, right, or the cadence or nothing. It's also about the aesthetics and how a person looks. You know what I'm saying?

That's appeasing to the eye. Do you feel like you lean more towards that or do you feel like people really do rely on the music that I'm putting out? You know what's so crazy that you say this? It's like I was speaking about this other day to my manager. I was saying a bad bitch is not what she looks like. right? Obviously that is, that's just like, that's just the bare minimum. But a bad bitch is like the way a woman holds herself, the way she could hold a conversation, the energy she brings into a room, how she lifts up people around her, like it's an aura.

You know what I mean? I agree. But I also know that the world that we live in, right, in reality is people love the aesthetics. Of course. They love the way somebody looks. That's why they would even take a second to even listen. Yeah, for sure. That's what I was saying. That's just like, if you're a, you're a bad bitch, you're good looking. But, like, what makes a... I feel you.

I know where you're going with it. You know what I mean? Like, there's pretty girls everywhere, but, like, it's just about, like... It's just about your energy in the way you hold yourself, the way you could talk, you know? I think that really, like, can make shit happen a little faster for you.

Yeah. Yeah, I just... The way I look at it, even for the music game, like, maybe not for a f***as in a sense, you know, because they don't give a fuck, they be letting some ogling n'-knits out there. play. But, you know, for real, but I, you know, I know like for a woman, like, she got to have some type of, like, not everybody is sexy red. Like that, like, no offense to baby, but that

bitch got on in a whole different sense. You know what I'm saying? She took naughty to nasty. You know what I'm saying? And, like, kind of put, not saying it never happened before, but the people that did it before, like Lil Kim and all of them, were outdated. But then that's what also makes her, that's what made her pop off because that's something that it wasn't going on at the time. Like she just came out, she came out and said men say, and it's acceptable for men.

Really, she just, she just did a backflip on everyone. She came up. So asking you as an artist, you feel like for her, like it was more, the men more cater to her music than women. Damn, that's crazy. You know what's crazy? We went to a club. She's kind of broken down in a cold sense.

Yeah. That's why she really, that's why she's doing this. She's doing because she came out and it's like I was in the club the other day and I mean they don't they don't they the music out here is way different to what they play at home for me right so when I was looking around every guy was singing the sexy red lyrics you know and I was like even if he wasn't moving yeah just staring off in the space my booty home wow they're all striped I know what you say yes I was like and I thought about it for a second I'm like exactly I thought about it and I was like this is crazy because she's just saying that women can't technically say because we're supposed to be you know like all prim and proper and da da da but men say and we scream that so good on her she's like she's really like she just dropped

a whole new whole new vibe in the scene and I feel like that's why she's she's just so do you feel like so are you saying that it's it's more of what's in versus just a pretty face anymore or I feel like the pretty face is like

like I said it's just like it's just it you just it you just It's got to have your shit on. If you don't have your shit going on, you're not even gonna get to that first step. You don't have to necessarily be like, there's different types of pretty. You know what I mean?

There's girls that like to look hood pretty. There's some girls that like to look Barbie pretty. Like, it's just about how you work that pretty. You know what I'm trying to say? Yeah, yeah. I don't know. No, you do, no. That's why you're saying it.

You know, I definitely can agree. It's just, I look at it like this. And maybe you're saying it the same way I am. I always look at like chicks, like, yeah, they could be pretty, but it's always about what you got to offer. You got that extra pizzazz. Definitely. You know, that extra umph about yourself that could push you over that curve.

Exactly. Back then, probably when you know chicks was coming in, it wasn't a lot of chicks that was pretty. There was some chicks that was pretty, but now you can buy the bodies. You can buy the lips. You can buy the cheek structures. You can buy all that.

You can really recreate yourself. Have you done any of that? No lips, no nothing. My lips, yeah. done my lips but that's about it so chicks look for enhancements somewhere down the line

I feel like I feel like that's like going real far to me personally I'm like ever I could do what they want to do but I feel like

people are just like I feel like naturally enhancing what you have is way sexier than going in changing your complete appearance but that's just my opinion

you must have not had no upper lip I did I didn't actually do that much I said to go out laughing man See, this is why don't I have people up in you when I do this type of shit. You know what I'm asking?

I'm really for real. No, no, no. Did you have an upper lip before all this? Yes, I did. Do you want to show you a pick? Yeah, for sure. I actually had lips before. This is like when I was young.

If you're pretty year before this, I'm going to be mad at you. I'm going to be mad at you. I'm going to show you when I was young. Tell your dad. I'll say hello. My dad. You see my dad? Tell your daddy I say hello.

Dad, say what's up? We're in an interview. What's up, mate? Hey, what's going on? Oh, you're regular American. Your daddy's not American as hell. No. Okay, you're from Down Under.

Hey, man. I'm a U.S. citizen from Down Under. How you doing? How you doing, man? How you living? I got your daughter over here, right? I know that might sound a little spooky. Got your daughter over here, right?

And I'm going to ask her some questions. You're probably going to see this interview when it comes out. I'm going to ask him some questions, man. You're probably going to find out. some new shit about her had you never knew. Wait, I guess you're going to wait and see. He's like, what the fuck? Like, what we're doing here?

All right, I'm doing here. Bye. Okay. You get friends with him? Yeah, my dad's my bestest friend. That's your best friend. You had your mom and your daddy? Yeah.

Oh, no, my dad. You just had your dad? Yeah. This is me before I ever did my lips. And why are you doing? Because you just like... The thing's already right. See?

This is before I did my lips. This is 2000. The things was already right. So why do we do that? That's what I'm saying, you know, you could just do a little sum-sump, like, you know, enhance. You don't want to lose it, huh? That's what it is. I don't know how old you are, and I don't want to guess.

Guess? No, you're drunk. She asked me. What you mean? Are you serious? Drunk man tells no tales. No one has ever said that to me in my life. Drunk man tells if I am drunk, right?

We could say that. Are you actually serious? That's fine. but a drunk man tells no tales. I look 33. Holy shit. I feel disrespected. I'm 25.

Oh, damn. Yeah, we might want to erase that. Hey, hey, hey, man. She asked me, I just set it off the whim. I didn't sit there and go like, well, you probably look maybe. No, fuck all that. 33.

All right. Fair. I mean, whatever. 36. How are you? I'm 36. Okay. I'm trying.

You know, I mean, shit. We'll both share. You give me yours. You show me yours. I'll show you mine, baby. I got you. Don't worry. He's got an out of good job.

You got an outy. You know, I mean, shit. Hopefully it's not an outty because your ass will have to get the fuck up. Oh my God. I can't. Man. But, you know, back to the music. Like, what?

I know. I know. Because I got to do my job and I got to reel this shit the fuck on in. But, you know, back to the music. Like, what inspired you? Like, what made you even, because you could have just been a pretty girl, probably Victoria's Secret model or something, huh? Oh, thanks.

Crumpets and tea. You know, did your shit? The music was just like a natural thing. I've been dancing and performing and doing my thing. Dancing and performance. different than singing and rapping or doing anything vocally. I wasn't finished. I don't know.

Just I asked. I'm trying to figure it out. Wait, I started off dancing. I was dancing since I was a little kid. And then I was performing a lot dancing for artists that came out. And I always wanted to, like, control my own show, you know? I hated listening to somebody else or being in the background. I was like...

You like to be the center attention. Yeah. When I'm on stage, for sure. You're like, no offense. But what I'm about to say is, and I want you to take this to heart and for the rest of your life, you're kind of like a borderline pick me, bitch. Hell no. Like pick me, pick me, pick me.

You know what that means? Yeah, I know what that means. Pick me is someone who isn't that bitch. You didn't like to be in the background. No, you didn't like to ever be in the background. So for you, you want to be the pick me? No, put me up. No, but that's not what a pick me is.

I'm better. Pick me is a girl who has to like do the most to get attention. I don't need to do that. I just put myself in those positions, you know what I mean? You're just a high-level pick-me. You had a higher format of it, right? I mean, I'm trying to figure it out here. I'm definitely not a pick-me.

So you had a higher format of it like, hey, pick me, I'm the one. I don't want to sit in the background. I don't want to be in the shadows. You know, I don't want to be happy for anybody else, you know, in their time, you know, because everybody's time comes. You wanted to be center of attention right now. Yeah, but definitely without the pick-me because I'm chosen. I don't take it wrong, baby. It's just the truth.

I'm not trying to... I swear to God, I'm not taking it wrong. I'm just saying. Like, I never had to, like, put myself out there. Like, I just always done my thing, you know? Do you feel like that may come from the line of being pretty? You know what I'm saying? Because you're a pretty girl.

You're going to stand out, you know? So, shit, your doings are probably always minimal to what probably the next shit got to do, you know, to get seen. Honestly, I just work hard. I feel like pretty privilege is definitely a thing. Being pretty got me into a lot of rooms, got me into a lot of, when I say rooms, like, you know, in business. It, you know, helped with my image.

It really helped push a lot of things that have been amazing for me. But like I said, there's, I feel like nearly every bitch is pretty these days. Girls can go and change their body. It can go and do all this work to their face. Speaking of thing, I mean, you do have a joint that's debuted pretty little thing. elaborate on that a little bit That was my first ever song that I made It's crazy to say that

And we were just saying what we were saying Right, that there's a song that she made Called Pretty Little Thing Yeah You're talking about yourself? Yeah In that song? So yeah, I literally made it in my laundry

In my apartment like couple Your laundry? Yeah. Oh, laundry room Yeah, laundry like In the laundry room Like where you wash the clothes? Yeah

In the laundry room. Oh, laundry room? Yes. Yeah. Okay. That. Because it's a actual, it should be a room. No.

No, because it was an apartment. Okay. Laundry compartment. Yeah. Okay. I didn't know what you said. Like in my laundry. I'm like,

yeah, because it had the doors, like, so I could like make the right sound because, you know, if you're just like going to keep the mic and open air, it's going to be a little fucked up.

Right. And I put it out, like I had no idea about playlisting or anything like that. And I put it out. And it just went, nuts. Like I got a million streams straight away on it. And it was just

literally off of my fans going and listening to the song. Like it didn't have any push from DSPs and stuff like that. So then it just, it was all up from there. So that was your song that really pretty much put you on the map.

You know, they blow up fast over in Australia? Yeah. That's fucking with you? Yeah. How long it takes you to get a show going? Like there was somebody wanted you to come actually Straight away. Like, I put three months from that day, I opened up for Jaquoise.

And it was insane. I was literally saying the other day, it's the best performance I've ever done. The whole crowd was roaring my shit. I couldn't even hear myself. I couldn't even hear myself performing. That's how crazy it was. And from that day,

I just always, like, chase that feeling. You know, we were talking about it in a podcast recently, and it was like, you know, when you looked at places like Australia, or Germany or anywhere in Europe, you know, it was always the U.S. artists that would be number one. Now, all the people like, it's in Australia's probably got their top ten that stand above everybody, you know.

So I'm sure it's got to be a different dynamic, you know, not having to really go up against, you know, U.S. artists and things like that, that your country actually stands behind you. For sure. Yeah, it's definitely important to me that, you know, I'm always rapping where I'm from and I had that support because I feel like

once your own support you you could really go anywhere you know what I mean but now I feel like... Not necessarily You can't just necessarily go everywhere you know because... I mean

debatable but I feel like you can when you have like a strong backing a strong foundation I feel like you can go anywhere because you have you've built like a solid foundation so for me now it's like Australia

I'm cool like I want to now I want to Like, I want to be international. That's why I'm out here in the U.S. I just got, I toured Brazil recently. Oh, that work out. Amazing. My song went viral there.

It was my biggest country, actually, even bigger than Australia. So I went out there and did the YouTube Music Awards, made some incredible music, did a bunch of shows, did a TV show out there. And, yeah, it was mad, crazy. So you've been getting tens of millions of streams. worldwide. They've been fucking with you other places. Has there been any place that you've went to so far?

I don't know how many places you've toured so far. You say you've done Australia, of course, which is home. Brazil you've done. You know you said it was actually bigger than doing it at home in Australia. Is there any other place that you've been to where you'd be like, okay, I got to kind of maybe pick up the pace and kind of push my music more over here? I feel like the U.S. is that for me. I feel like this is so huge out here.

They spoiled out of here. here, baby. Hey, spoiled in the motherfucker. Like, no, for real, like, to music. Like, and it ain't even the music, right? It's not even the music. It's spoiled to concerts. It's spoiled to drops and everything that's going on.

They get the shit first. So they're like, they don't even care. They're like, fuck it. I'm not even going to buy this one because he's going to drop something in the next three months and I'm going to get all that. Right. You go to a concert every day here. You can go to a concert every day.

Like in Australia, when these rappers come out and, you know, some of my, some of my good. Some of my good friends, they come out there. I've watched them do a show here, and I've watched them do a show in Australia. In Australia, they go crazy for them. But I feel like out here, you could see everyone, you could see your favorite star in the coffee shop. It's not like that in smaller countries like, you know, Australia or New Zealand or, you know, places like that. So, but you know what?

I was saying to my managers, like, that's why I want to be here. I want people who are doing huge things. So I have, you know, I'm in rooms. there's people who are doing better things than me that I can push myself to that point. You know what I mean? I want to be inspired. I want to grow as an artist. Well, for Amarni, like, what inspires her?

Like, what pushes her? What makes her this? She probably wasn't always this, baby. Don't front of me. He wasn't always this. It wasn't always this. This pizzazz about you and you coming in and having this fierce move about yourself.

What was it like before all this? I definitely was always like this, even when I was younger. I was always like, I was always... You had a good upbringing? Yeah, for sure. For sure, huh? But, you know, I was just... Mama and daddy did good.

Your daddy looked, man, like he'd been having money. Yeah, for sure. But that's a hard worker. So you've never been in like a struggle, you've never had to struggle being an artist. I definitely had to struggle being an artist, but in a different way, you know. Elaborate. What way? You know, being a...

being a woman and... No, that ain't it. Yes, it is. Because women been thriving in this business for a long time and I mean, shit, if you ask me right now, right, women kind of hold the candle to what's going on and rap. Like right now, like who's

holding the candle right now, honestly. The narrative is changing right now, but as a woman navigating in the scene, I mean, you can't say that because you don't... Cardi, Nikki, all them sexy red, they all kind of holding the candle right now. Like, who's kind of fucking with them bitches right now? All of them. I wasn't saying it in that sense. I was saying,

in the sense of when you're trying to build yourself as an artist and what you go through as a woman in such a male-dominated industry is a lot. I could tell you five situations where it's like... It's woman dominated right now. And I give them respect. Like, I love all them, man. Shout out to all them. Cardi B., Nikki, sexy red, all the bitches moving, Glorilla, all of them.

Like, it's kind of dominated right now. Yeah. Like, if I was to look at it, like, and I love that. Like, I love to see the change in dynamic that women are actually taking over the throne. Like, fuck it, come on, we're going to move too, you know? Somebody got to have some seasons and rewards, too. They've always got to be a man.

Yeah, but you also, you don't know what it took to get to that position. Like, what I'm saying is like... For anybody, though. It's not just a woman. Being an artist is an artist. What men go through coming up and what women go through is completely different. They try to fuck them niggas in the ass too. It's all about if that nigger wants to take it or not.

Don't you get this shit fucked up? Let's not get this shit fucked up. I'm just thinking from experience. No, I'm just letting you know too because I know where you're going to get to. Like, well, you don't know Sharp, like what it's kind of like when you get up there to these deals. And they go off my looks and, you know, he's trying to like a lude to try to do something. And I'm like, I ain't even on that. I really want my music shopped here.

I really want to sign here. I really want a beer. I'm not here just to give you no pussy. Yeah, for sure. You have to understand. There's niggas out here. They want to get bussy. You know what I'm saying?

And they want to, hey, take a nigga down. Why you think a lot of these niggas done turt weird. Look at it. It's happening to everybody. Right? It's happening to everybody. We all know since everybody's in the room. We all know it's happening to everybody. We're wearing dresses.

Diggas wearing makeup. Niggas painting fingernails. Niggas doing all types of shit. What's going on? Because you know why everybody's getting tried. I just don't want you to say in your movement like, you know, well, as a woman. But I'm not complaining about it.

They don't even want pussy. you know, Mo. You're cool. That's not true. Go free. No, but like, I'm not complaining about it. I'm not complaining about it. It's just what it is, though.

You said to me, you asked me if I've struggled, what have I struggled with? But you immediately went from like, you know, being the artist and like being in this shit as a woman. Up, let's stop it there. Because I don't feel like it's about being a woman in the industry. It's about knowing that, like, they're doing that shit to everybody. However it goes, I've been through the higher-ups, been trying to fuck on everybody. Like I said, boy, boy, pussy's at an all-time high.

You don't even have to worry right now. You're cool. You could right now, this would be the time to bubble up. You asked me about my personal experience. I'm just telling you. I feel you. No, I'm just saying maybe you can, I'm with you here. I'm with you.

We're right here. Yeah. I'm just saying like, let's look at it as a whole and not just as, you know, a female in the industry. You know what I'm saying? Because it always leads to, well, you know how they try it, sharp. and you being a pretty girl, you're going to get tried. You know what I'm saying? And maybe opportunities that you really wanted to happen for you

didn't happen because you didn't do certain things or you didn't move a certain way that a motherfucker wanted you to move. And that's respected. I respect the fuck out of it. I understand. But I just want you to know, like, and it's sad to say, everybody's going through that. Everybody's catching that man or woman.

Doesn't matter. I'm saying? So I just didn't want to put a classification on it to say, Like just females are going through it. Shit, this 20-23, everybody's going through it. Well, that's sad. Especially if you want this bag. It is sad.

It is. I mean, yeah, well, that's, um. It is sad. I agree. I definitely learn how to navigate through it, though. But I'm saying it's just, it's definitely been part of something I've had to learn and grow through and be strong about. You know, I know what to do, what not to do now. I know, I know I just learn a lot.

from those situations. Yeah. What's a couple situations you feel like? Maybe you just even one that don't have to be too crazy or nothing, but just one that like stuck with you. And you was like, I ain't putting myself through that shit no more. Like was there a deal you ever like,

you was almost reached and you was like some bullshit happened so we didn't really do it. Yeah, for sure. I mean, you know, I've had some fucking, not R. Kelly himself, but that exact situation like try to go down. Try R. Kelly. Free R. Kelly.

Hell. So, I don't know. Hey, man. Hey, I grew up on the niggas music. We all knew what he was doing. We all knew what he did.

We all knew what he fucking did. Yeah, so fuck his music then, you know, like, I mean, he's talented. I can't take that away from him, but that shit just like, it is fun. It's triggering. It's like, you know,

because that shit's really happening. But I'm going to be real with you from morning. Like, a lot of them parents were involved. to. They all knew what was going on until the bag couldn't be paid anymore, until the money couldn't be, you know, I don't, I just, hit some crazy shit that goes down in there. I don't know. I just think, you know, I ship some shit. You're not that kind of artist, are you? No. No, we're not going to see you get R. Kelly 10, 15 years. No, no, but what I'm trying to say is that has happened to me where I've, I've, I've been in a situation where I lost a deal. I lost a situation because I had men who were, 60, 50, 60 years old want to fuck me when I'm a kid, 17, 16 years old.

Like, this shit was crazy for me. I was in school. You know what I mean? Like, shit was crazy. Like, I'm just saying this type of shit is things I've struggled with being a woman in the industry. I'm not saying men don't necessarily go through it. But it's really a thing. And it's scary.

And like, you know, it's just. So have you been in the industry all your life or something? Like, I'm trying to figure it out. Like if you been making music since a kid. Yeah, I've always been, I've been doing this. I just made, I just made better business moves as I've grown older. I've learned how, I've learned how these business really works and I've, you know, known how to put out releases and get more into the business side.

How long you been putting out releases? How old were you? I'd say like since I was 18, 19, probably like, you know, six, five, six years. I ain't been too long, my love. Shit, you know, I'm thinking like, how old was. Were you like 13, 14? Because you were talking like you was an actual kid. 18, 19.

16. Yeah. Yeah. So you were actually, you were putting them out there 16 years old. Yeah. Well, no, I had like situations many times where, you know, like I could have had a deal or I could have had a lot of things. But what I'm saying is these are the things I went through, which I had to navigate through and learn very early on.

I also, you know, I paid for features that I didn't get. I got ripped off many times. Like there was a lot of things along the way. but I'm very thankful for them because it was character building. It taught me how to navigate, how to be strong and get through this business

because it's really like a dog-eat-dog world, I feel like. Going back to Brazil, you had placed 14th, I believe, on the top 50 song? How was that experience when you found that out? It was crazy. I had like, you know,

these huge celebrities all listening to my song and posting videos with my song on there, and it was, it just kept going and going. Like, even I, just before I came in here, I looked at the numbers. There's been 200,000 TikTok videos this week to Beyonce still. And it's like,

man, get the damn dog. Get his ass. It's a little ass. No, no. I'm not. I feel like that's got to be a crazy experience. I don't really know your background, because I don't really know your background,

and I definitely want to dive into that, you know, what your upbringing was like, you know, for you. Because it don't seem like you had to really hurt for too much. You know, you had a cool, clean upbringing, you know. Australia, crime rate, poverty rate, probably at all time low. You know, so you ain't really had too many issues. It seems like coming with that, other than men trying to hit on you.

I mean, I definitely, you know, I definitely experienced a lot of things when I was younger. I'm Lebanese. I grew up in Greenacre, which is, which is, yeah, one of those, it's called the area, really. We call it the area in Australia. And yeah, I guess I had to navigate through different things. You know, I always had my parents support and, you know, my dad, like I said, it's like one of my best friends. But yeah, I really, I really worked hard. for everything I have. I never ever had handouts. That's a massive misconception that people think when they see, maybe they see someone, you know, went to a good school or something like that.

Like, I didn't have anything handed to me. I had three jobs my whole life until I could work for myself. My parents never handed anything to me or, you know what I'm saying? Like, I always really had to grind and work hard. Like I, if I wanted to buy something, my parents wouldn't just go and give me money. Like, I had to work for. for that shit. Everything. They make you do some dishes. They make you do something.

No, not even. I had to go, I had to, they just never gave you nothing. Well, I mean, they put a roof over my head,

yeah, and supported me. That's a lot. That's a lot. Yeah, for sure. That second one is everything. That second one is everything.

Well, welcome to the States, baby. Not a lot of people got that second one. Yeah, for sure. That support. That support that means everything.

Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not saying, your shit was fucked up, but it just seemed like you had a positive upbringing to where you could actually focus on music, dance.

You could do shit like that. A lot of people was fortunate, baby. A lot of people was fortunate. Yeah, I'm very blessed that I had that side. So what too much of a struggle for you? It was pretty much cool.

Graduated and everything? Yeah. For sure. Ain't nothing wrong with that. That's a great thing. I actually really wanted to graduate. Like, you know, I that was something, even though I hated school, like I hated school, my teachers always told my parents, like, she does not belong here. Like, I was always, I never went. I was always

doing something else. Like, you know, my parents would think I'm at school or wasn't at school. So I was like, you know what, though? I really want to, I really want to get my high school certificate and I did that. So I was really proud of that. I did really well. I focused on fashion for my high school certificate. So I did that. And then, yeah, I, just kept grinding from there and then took like you know took music full time i got a question for you because i'm curious to know were you like all because obviously we live in a world today where you know social media and you know streams just anything like online virally takes place it can go crazy where you already having motion on like your instagrams and things like that like

Did you already have a big motion going on before you, like even did music? Yeah, well, I mean, I always. Pretty much you have a fan base already before you converted. Yeah, I always did, like, all the dance challenges that came out. And, like, I was always doing things on social media. That was, like, my first, like, initiation to, like, getting my social media popping, like me and my brother, we did this. I don't know if you remember the Juju on the Beat Challenge.

Yeah. It's like, juju on that beat. So we did that, and that went viral. That had, like, 300 million views. well on the video was on Ellen DeGeneres. She tried to get us out there at the time. Yeah. Y'all put it on YouTube. Yeah.

So I got the money from it? No. 300 million? No, no. It's a lot of fucking brand. It didn't. Mike, you know what we do. So I'm thinking like views like, oh, 300 million.

Nigger, that could have set your little ass for life. Yeah, no. You wouldn't have thought about music. I'll tell you that. Yeah, but actually, you know. You fucked up there, man. Yeah, yeah. I had my tag on the video, though.

So like I got like, I work up with like, I think like 60 or 70K followers. But you fucked up. Yes, I did. Don't rub it in. When y'all didn't monetize that, 300 million, guess what? That shit still generated money. And that's money that you and your brother was owed if y'all would have did the right thing. Sure.

But I mean, we didn't know. We were just. Fuck, 300 million. You know what that is? No. Baby, I ain't a lot to you. That's going to put you like in a couple million projectile. Y'all touched it easy.

Easy. For real. If it was monetized, like for real, like monetized from the jump. You don't know something so funny. So we had two videos, right? I made one video with my tag on it and another video with my brother's tag for his social media. Well, my one was the one that went viral. Man.

And my brother's type wasn't on it. Let's see. I want to see real quick for you, right? It's just for some game for you because I want you to know if you ever do something like 75,000 off the dream. Damn. But you know what? I'm going to be honest. But no, that's American.

That's like 100. Listen, that's off the views. That's not even off the ad revenue. You don't even have the ad revenue involved. That's where you really get paid. So that's $75,000 off the dribble, just people watching. Damn. Not to mention what the ad revenue would have did for y'all

because the ads would have stopped all through that motherfucker. Yeah. That's what people get paid off there. I put some salt in the wound, you know? I have to. Because you know what? I'll be honest with you. We were just learning.

They could honestly probably change your life and pushed you into a whole different direction. I mean, everything happens for a reason. Everything does happen for a reason. It just sucks. If somebody else got that money, they got not only that 75 grand, but they got all the ad revenue.

Yeah, for sure. It's fucked up. I don't want to focus on that. I was just focusing on what's forward. You amongst the top five songs played on Instagram. Mm-hmm. Yeah. How's I feel for you?

It was crazy, you know. I used to, when I was younger, one of the other songs I was on there was Umbrella by Rihanna. And, you know, I really used to, like, sing that shit all the time, put on concerts in my lounge room for my family to watch, and to think, like, you know, we have, I'm next to her, like, on a chart of, like, the top five songs.

And, you know, there's, like, millions of rills to my song on Instagram. And Instagram posted that. I was like, wow, that's crazy. To keep it going, like, on the, you know, social media movement, right now we live in the TikTok generation, right? Would you find yourself making music that aims for a TikTok sound? I don't make music aim for a TikTok sound, but because I'm so tuned in with TikTok and I have a strong following on there,

I naturally am just in tune with what's happening on there and it definitely does influence ideas that I have, like, up in the studio and, like, you know, like, for one of my singles coming out, it's called Love a Boy. I already knew, when I was making it, I already knew, oh, this part, I'm going to do a challenge on TikTok for this, but I don't know, it just comes naturally. Like, I'm not like, oh, I'm going to make this song for TikTok. No.

I feel like if you do that, it's just there's no depth to the song. You know what I mean? But TikTok is always... It's paying. What, TikTok? Yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's paying like a mother. That's definitely an extra bag for you.

Mm-hmm. Definitely got to dive into that. I think you just got to, like, I think just balancing it. Like, I feel like you can hear when somebody is trying to make a TikTok song because then when you listen to the whole song, like, you know, when you're driving and you want to put it on Spotify and listen to the song, it doesn't resonate like it does for that 15 seconds on TikTok. Speaking of TikTok, what makes,

a money like tick like what makes you tick baby like what makes you go what makes you stand on principle makes you stand on game like in what sense like just in general for your life yeah why not I'm just like very I'm just like very sure about you know what I stand on

and what I want for myself and how I want what I want to put out there and the energy I have around me like I'm just very sure about myself and I feel like that that I I can express that in everything that I do. And I feel like people can, people that are around me or people that are connected with me,

like my fans, my music. It's like you could really understand, like, who I am as a person. Yeah. You coming to, you coming to the States. Have you been to how many places you've been to, like, just moving around? Like, is L.A. one of the only places you've been? Oh, yeah.

I've been in Atlanta. I've been in L.A. Yeah. What's the other place? Atlanta, L.A. What else? No, that's, oh, San Francisco. San Francisco.

Been there. Where you feel like you got the most love at? People know your music, know your name. L.A. for sure. L.A. for sure. Where you feel like they'd be spinning at the most, what, West Hollywood? Yeah, like just. Where you didn't heard your music playing?

Somebody got to be riding down the damn street playing you. My girl was on a date the other day. She was like, my stuff was all playing. What area were you in? Santa Monica. She was, you know, having a little date night. And then I came up on the screen. You know, I was there in spirit.

It was there in spirit. That was cool. She sent me a video. She's like, look, I'm like, that is so cool. Well, let's put your music into reality. What song were you, you feel like this was my song? This is a song that inspired me the most to even keep moving and doing what you're doing. I feel like the music I haven't put out yet.

But one song that I really love that I put out is called Free Promotion. And I was just talking about, you know, like, what I needed in a man because, you know, I was going through a breakup. I feel like when I was going through my breakup, that's when I... What you need in a man, baby? Qualities you're looking for. Loyalty, number one. It's like so important to me because I feel like that doesn't exist anymore.

Yeah. I need someone who can be an asset to my life. I don't need money. I don't need materialistic things. That's a bonus. I need someone who can stimulate my mind and who can elevate me and help me grow. Like, you know, because I would bring that to a man. I'm always going to have his best interest at heart.

So I feel like that's really important to me. And then morals and values for sure. Like, has to value family, has to, you know. I'm not, I don't know. I just feel like there's a real, like, crazy standard of relationships going out. I want a traditional home. People call me delusional for that, but I'm going to get it. My Mr. Wright's coming.

You ain't delusional, you know. Maybe it'll be borderline crazy a little bit, but you ain't delusional. Definitely crazy. I'll tell you why. But I got to really say this for you, right? Because everything that you named is sweet, right? It's findable. You can get it.

But I always notice you're still going to want more. It doesn't matter. You can get that everything she just named off. She can get that from a man tomorrow, right? and there's still going to be something that your motherfucking ass going to act like you really missing. It's just the way it goes.

You can get all that shit tomorrow. And then what? What do you do with him? See, I watched this interview with Jay Cole the other day and he's like, see, people think they're in a relationship for a year and think, okay, well, this is not feeling like it was when we first got together. But that's what makes an amazing relationship.

You have to, relationships take work and growth, understanding, communication. this is what actually what you know what it does what put trash on each other and what i'll tell you by is that is because you know what y'all start to learn each other's moves now you start to hinder dirt against each other that's what happens no that's toxic no that's toxicity we live in a toxic world baby well i don't want to i don't know if you know you're recycling bins work but this shit's been overflowed you know and it's been going on like that's how it goes who you even know stay together be married now.

They can just stay together for 40 years. Who? You can't even get people through 40 months, 40 minutes, 40 days. You can't even get them through that. Just kill my spirit even more about the fucking relationship that I was. No, it's not even that. I'm just saying, like, you can't even.

Wait, I want to ask you a question. So are you saying, do you think there's such thing as a man that will stay loyal to a woman for the rest of their life in a relationship? Yeah, but you know what makes men cheat? But you're still one more even when she gives, even when he gives you the perfect nigger. No, you didn't answer my question.

Even when he gives you the perfect niggins, she's still going to want more. She's how it goes, baby. No, but, no, no, give me a straight answer. Do you think it's possible, let's say, two, a husband and a wife are together? Yeah. And they're together for years and years and years.

Do you think it's possible? It is. There's such things still as a man out there that does not cheat on his girl or his wife. Hey, but you know what? Yes, there is. But guess what you got to do for me first? Show me that bitch that's worth getting it. Show her to me.

Show her. Bring her ass to fuck up here. Bring her up here. And show me who really deserves to get all of that. So you basically told me in other words. Who deserves to get all of that. Because you already know, baby. See how you got you got.

Hey, I'll be real with you, my love. Hey, understand this. As much as the nigger is a representation of who he carries himself with, the chick is too. So what you should do is look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself why you keep moving bum-ass niggas if that's what you're moving or niggas that don't work out. No, I just... Don't work out.

Ask yourself why. That's not... When you ask yourself, right? That's not even if you can be with a man who... That's why I know you're close-minded. No. Because if you really look at yourself, I have. I got a lot of bum bitches there I've had in my life.

Guess what? I stopped having them bitches when I looked at myself and I asked myself, what the fuck am I doing? No, that's not true. What do I got going on? No, that is not true. Because it's got to be something because I'm just, you know what? I'm a stay complaining.

I'm a mistake complaining. I'm going to stay acting like bitches ain't shit. I'm going to stay acting like all that when I ain't looking at myself and saying maybe I ain't shit and I need to clean up my act. I'll eight. Cap. Not true.

Cap. That is so not true. You crazy as hell. That is so not true. Baby, you're crazy as hell. If you don't look at yourself sometimes into why your surroundings are the way that they are, then you ain't learn nothing in life.

No, for sure. I understand that way. You ain't learn nothing. But what I'm saying. Even with partners, baby, don't try to sit there and throw limits. to it to say, oh, well, I'm not saying that because I know that does, you know, reflect on certain life, but it doesn't reflect in relationships. Of course it does.

That's the main motherfucking thing it reflects in. Here's your relationships. Because guess what? I feel like this conversation goes in circles. No, it doesn't. It does. Because I just feel like that is just something that. What do you want to talk about then, love?

We ain't got to go in circles. Let's go straight ahead then. No, no. I'm saying that specific topic, I just feel like it doesn't matter what the. situation is there's always an excuse for why there's like infidelity or there's always an excuse for the female too into why she did what she did it's excuses for everybody i love women i'm not saying men i love everybody pause but i'm just saying i love everybody you know what i'm not saying i'm looking at it from just a even like just an even totem pole man to it that's all it doesn't

just lean to one where one's more of a victim than the other no no there's definitely women that cheat too i'm just saying in general loyalty and relationships i just feel like is a like non-existent anymore. Like, everyone's just wild. Then let's say everyone. Huh? Then let's say everyone. Let's not just say, you know, can men keep it?

I was talking from my experience too. True. But you were like, you know, men, well, you know, men think, you know, you think there's a man that can actually be an actual loyal man. There absolutely can be. But guess what? You're going to have to show that, nigger. The bitch that that's a weed.

Man, that's supposed to even get that. Who? there's always something man that goes downhill i've always even noticed like within marriage right people let this thin ass piece of paper it's as thin as this actually you know draw this big ass wedge between them they were better off not getting married mm-hmm for sure i feel like people take advantage of certain relationships you know whether it's man or woman for sure you know i don't know i fuck with you you know i'm just trying to see eye to eye with you and learn who you are.

Let the fans know who you are. The viewer know who you are, your fans. For sure. No, definitely. I see your perspective anyway. I think I'm also just talking from my personal experience, but, you know, it's not just men that cheat. There's women.

A woman that cheats to me is just fucking crazy, like, extra crazy, because I just feel like we, like, emotional. She might not be getting what she really want at home, right? That's how it always goes. I mean. Nobody sits back. What woman you know sits back when she break up with her nigger, eat a tub of ice cream, call her girls over, nigger,

and watch a fucking love chick little flick or whatever the fuck, right? There's nobody no more. Biches are out at the clubs. Biches are getting nasty. Same night. Nigger might be in the club running into the bitch. She, nigger, sitting there, nigga. I mean, I don't know what goes, like, yours.

Man, we welcome to United States of fucking America, nigga. Like, this shit go down. I listen, all love to Australia. Man, love that shit. Outback's the best. Listen, I love, listen, I love Australia. I do. But welcome to the United States of America,

where shit gets kind of grimy. She gets real grimy. I get it, baby. Trust me, hey, I'm not knocking your background and the knowledge of you not knowing, but just know, like, shit gets real grimy over here. Maybe that's why you, like, I want it back to your music. You're like, the only place,

like I really want to like catch a grasp of is the U.S. It's so grimy over, baby, there's so much shit going on. There's definitely, it's a hard space to hop in. Yeah. But I'm going to do it. It's a hard space to hop in. Mm-hmm. You think you can do it, baby?

I know I can do it. Yeah. First time you ever opted in the studio. When? Yeah, like first time, yeah, first time you can even remember. Like, yeah, they laughing for some reason. I don't know what they're not. happened, but yeah, that joint ain't that damn good.

Hey, hey, for real, Jack, that joint ain't that damn good. They ain't got you coughing like that. Hey, first time you ever touched the studio, baby, what did you remember? I was in Atlanta. It was the first time. I, um, it was the best when I, like, yeah, I always used to just, just, like, sing and make things on my phone, like, you know, and then to actually go in and make my own song was just crazy.

Yeah. Yeah, so I went to Atlanta. I was 16. You put out your first song, too? You put it out? No, I put out my... I made a lot of music that I never put out. This was, like, in the beginning stages.

Like, I was just learning a lot. I was learning about my sound, how I wanted to do things. Somebody thought you was cute and let your ass in. That's what happened. She went to Atlanta. Somebody let your ass in. No.

What happened? I was touring in Australia as a dancer, like, in the background. Backup dancer. Yeah, for Black Street. And then I got signed by the leader of Black Street. And then I went to Atlanta and worked. I worked with a bunch of producers.

And, yeah, it just all started from there. Black Street. If I'm not mistaken. If I'm not mistaken, right, you know what I'm saying? Because I listen to a lot of R&B. I love R&B. You know, you're talking about Black Street, the group. You said the leader.

Who? Chonty, Black. at the time. I mean, Teddy Riley is really the leader, but I learned that after. Shout out to you, like,

yeah, shout out Teddy Riley. I, the leader, so they have like a whole situation going on. They have like two black streets and like they both come out and do tours because, you know, they're like,

and they're like, a battle at the time of like who owns Black Street. But Teddy's the real, the real goat. And, I mean, I love Teddy. Teddy and I are good friends. I went to,

Me and my family went to his house. We had dinner multiple times. I met him one time at the mall, Las Vegas. Yeah, he's walking out. I was walking out. Somebody introduced us. Yeah, he's cool. So, yeah, I learned a lot of things early on.

I got to, I mean, imagine sitting in a studio with Teddy Riley who did all of Michael Jackson stuff and listening to all the game he gave me and showing me music. And, you know, there was just so many things that like I experienced early on that just really open my eyes and made me know what direction I want to head in. What's your, what's your ploy to like, I don't want to say it like this, I don't want to

make you sound like a terrorist, but like what's your like ploy to infiltrate like the American music scene? Like, because obviously you say like this is one place you want to really, you know, get, we want them to be familiarized with your music. I mean, ultimately like I want to bring something different to the scene, something that's not here and I feel like I can really do that, you know? Like, yeah, I'm really that goal from Australia, so I want to show them out here what I really do. No, that's live, you know, is there anybody that you are looking forward to working with

or anybody you got something in the works with out here at U.S. wise? Yeah, actually, I mean, technically, he's not from the U.S., he's from Toronto, but it happened out here. I linked up with Barker Not Nice, Drake's artist, OVO. And we just did a song together. My single lover boys coming out this Friday. So I'm really excited about that. Yeah.

And I have a lot of things in the works. I don't want to say until they're like in concrete, but I'm definitely building up to take over. Who you want to work with while you over here? My dream, like, collaboration with Drake, sure. Drake? Yeah. Well, other than Drake.

Because I mean, I felt like I was a given, you know what I'm saying? Like other than Drake. Is there anybody? because I think even the viewer's going to be like, well, that was kind of a given because we know, like, you know, just the OVO collab and things that's going on. But anybody else, like, in room, like, reach out.

Let them know, like, hey, you know, I want to fuck with you. I want to work with you. I really want to do a song with Kalen, for real, for real. Okay. So I started working on an idea. We actually met the other day and saw see my manager introduce us.

And, yeah, I feel like we're definitely, we're going to get a vibe going there. And then, you know, the girls, I love Lado. I love guerrilla. I love Tink. I love a lot of female artists right now, too. Getting this cold shit. Like, man, I want to do the Cardys, you know.

You need to go get one sexy red right now while it's hot. For sure. Get it going. I love sexy red. And I ain't never prayed on baby's downfall. But I don't told her already. Mama, I don't know if you're going to be a one-ed wonder. I don't know if it's going to survive the time.

I don't know what it is But if it is If it ain't Go get that shit right now Yeah for sure Try to go grab that one man For real That's a must

For you Yeah definitely I spies Coila Ray Like there's so many Female artists That I really want to work With right now

And I don't doubt It's gonna happen I mean High Spite's cool You can lit a Coiler Ray one out I don't think I don't think You probably need that

She's fine What do you mean She's like She's like number one Like when you're talking About shit that's poppy Right Like TikTok

She is Coila Ray Are we talking about TikTok? You already just said we ain't even on that mixture. No, I'm just, that's what's hot right now, really. But you would even want to make a song that would even be like to have a TikTok side said, no, I don't want to lean towards that. But she is like one of the most streamed artists in the world right now.

Come, baby, we've got to make it make sense. No, I'm saying, let's get away from, numbers. Let's get away from that one. Why? You don't like it? No, nothing against her. I'm just saying, get away from that one. I'm trying to point you in the right direction.

I fuck with you. I fuck with you. I'm just saying, we'll leave that one off. She's fire. You asked me why we would do that. I'm just saying, hey, I don't think you need that one. I think you can move in another one. I mean, that's your opinion.

I'm trying to help. I'm trying to help you. You're so mean. I'm not. I'm trying to help. I'm really trying to help. I'm really just trying to help, man. You sound like there's something personal going on there, but I mean.

It's nothing personal. Okay, well, I mean, numbers don't lie. Men lie, women lie, numbers don't. Why, if you know numbers don't lie, why don't? you go do something on TikTok and like bring some TikToks down to it. You say you diverse. But I do that naturally. Like my shit is popping on TikTok right now.

I don't like, I'm not going to be like, oh, let's make a song for TikTok. Otherwise that shit would just be whack. You know what I mean? You want to be wagg. Because you don't make music for- artists. But you don't make music for TikTok. It just happened.

You could just bring, you know, a little bit of their sound over there, you know, and engage. Get something out of it, you know? You're special. Very. I got a special place for me one day. It's okay. Very special, baby. Yeah, I am.

You're right. I like hanging with you. I like hanging with you too. I do. You get my mind like going. Going. Yeah. Get us going.

Get that shit working. Putting that shit into fucking fruition. Do you have a girlfriend or a wife? No. No? Well, you want to come be it? No, no. I was just thinking about how deep your arguments would be.

That'd be like banging your head against a fucking brick wall. I'd be scared. I'm like, ah! Hey, but how do you know? I could just tell. Oh, you're stressed. Yeah. Like, I could just tell.

I could just tell. You've stressed me, baby. Really? No. Okay. Hell no. I hope I did. What?

You cool as hell. I fuck with you. Rocking your brand. Shout your brand out for them again. What can they find it? Go get that. All the bad bitches. That's what you need to shop.

You want to look like a bad bitch? You want to look different? Like a K-pop star? Yeah. In Rama. Shout with my niggins. Is there anything that we can be looking forward to from you? Like anything in the future?

Like, what's next? For sure. I've been working on my EP, so I'm really excited to release that, hopefully in the first quarter. But my single lover boy featuring Buck and Not Nice is out this Friday. I'm fucking pumped. I'm so excited. You ready for that one?

It's so far. Where do you think is going to go? crazy at first. The U.S. Where do I think it's going to go crazy? You said? Yeah, first. Yeah, U.S. for sure.

I mean, Australia, that shit's just going to pop. Because, you know, it's certainly right. It's just you, baby. It's just me. It's just you. We already figured that part of it out. You're just you. That shit's going to go up.

But, like, U.S., this shit's going to, it's just going to break a new, it's just going to create a new motion for me out here. I'm excited. Leave yourself a time capsule. What, where do you feel like? Give me one year here? I'm going to take over. Five.

Five. Five. Five, where are you going to be five? Where am I going to be in five years? Let's give you some time. I'm going to be the biggest female artist in the world in five years from now. Yeah. Because if you do, this shit goes up and it don't just be a duck.

You do what I'm saying? Baby, I appreciate you, like just even sliding through kicking the shit. I want you to come back again. Yeah. Hush for like me. You got some spicy questions ready for me. Next time around, we need to have bigger debates, bigger topics. Yeah, bigger debates, me and you.

That'll go crazy, me and you. And we need, we need, like, have shots. We need to get shit really, really. Oh, you want to turn it up for real. Yeah. I like that. Yeah. We need to bring her back.

How long are you for? I leave today, tonight. Which mean you leave tonight? Literally. We're just, man. I know, so. We're supposed to work, like, ASAP. You got to get a spicy.

I might come back. I might hop on a flight and get back. Man, we'll do a motherfucking panel that go crazy. Yeah. What you think about that? Yeah. You'll get spicy with some bitches? Like, you get spicy.

Like, the bait's going to go crazy. Like, it's going to be all much different minds. Come on, you can do it. We need, like, different personalities, though? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's why they make them different people. Duh.

No, but like, we need, like, strong personalities for it to be really spicy. Oh, no. We try to bring always that through the most cocky. most know it all. Exactly. You know, that's what makes it go to fuck up. You know what I'm saying? Like, I think that we could do something.

Like, I think that would be dope for you. Because it definitely brings you to a different space. Like, your music are already going. You're already moving in that department. I can't wait to see where you flourish to throughout that. And hopefully you do take over the U.S. But I'd love to see you on, like, just some power cats or something. Yeah, like, really come bring some of that spicy shit you got going on.

Yeah, because it's brewing. We're going to do it here first, right? Let's do it. All right. I'm down. You got it? Make sure, yeah. I'll make sure, babe.

She come back, hey, we'll get it cracking because if she got a mouth like how she been having a little. Oh, boy. She ain't seen nothing yet, man. Let me throw you over in Sharps' lair. You dig, adult summit. You dig, it's going to go crazy. Are you the toughest cookie in the building?

Do you say, like, you got the biggest mouth? No, I just try to mediate it. So, like, you got someone worse than you in here? I try to mediate it. Oh, someone worse than the building to me? Probably not. No, I ain't nobody probably worse than me. But I'm just saying, like, when we bring, like, people in, like, that shit kind of gets, it goes up.

Not going to lie, I thought you were going to. We need to start bringing through, like, you know, pop stars like yourself. You know what I'm saying? And, like, really throwing y'all in a panel of fucking just regular people and, like, see what they say? Yeah. He'd go crazy. Yeah, for sure. I got some ideas.

All right, Brett. You got some ideas. Yeah. I actually thought, like, you know, it's so funny. like before you do interviews like artists you know their team will be like okay so what questions

like do you want to like touch on do not want him to touch on I was like I want him to touch on everything I want to be free with you I want to be free with you I want to know you for you shit I'm trying to build friends I heard you talk about crazy shit

but yeah I like to listen to me I like to build friends and allies and not just interviews you know I think that's what the fans and the viewers they like to engage in the most It's just me and you being real, you know? Going through a love-hate relationship. No, I go spear fingers.

It's okay. I felt it. It was energetic. It was amazing. You're out of control. I like avi, is there anything that you want your fans to know, anything you want them to be looking for? Amani's coming to eat you all up.

Jake's not eat you guys up, but I'm coming for sure. Yeah. Is there like for real, I want to know, like, for your music, do you want, like, where is it going, like for you? What direction are you headed in? Are you going to stay in this type of sound or do you feel like you probably evolve elsewhere? I'm going to do everything. I'm very, like, versatile. I love R&B. I love hip-hop. I love pop. So I'm going to, like, mash them all together. And I'm just going to bring something different. I like how you didn't say, like, oh, I want to do a collab with Taylor Swift. I'm going to get that too. I mean, get the Taylor Swift. You can't get it, but I'm like, I wasn't at the top of your list. Like, it wasn't like, oh, well, I want to go get with one of them, you know.

Like, she's like, fuck that shit. I'm not going to put myself. I'm not going to put myself in one category. I want to do it all. I want to work with the, you know, Burner Boys. I want to work with the Taylor Swift. There you go. I want to work with everyone because music is, is so broad.

And I want to touch on everything. That's what makes a great artist. Oh, yeah. Exactly. I have a Spanish song to. I want to hear her do some trap shit. Zone 6. I got it.

Go crazy. I got the trap. I got the pop Spanish shit. I got the dance hall stuff. I got the hip-hop stuff. I got the R&B stuff. Whatever you need. I got it.

We might need you to come down to Melrose and bless the booth. No jumper store. Sure. You need to come down there for real. Yeah. Come cut you a verse. Yeah, sure. We need to hear what you're doing.

Yeah. I like that. You cut one and I cut one. Yeah. You do a verse, I'll do a verse. Okay. We'll go verse for verse, bar for bar. All right.

Just think about that. You think you could beat me? I might let you win. Don't say to me like that's say, I might let you win. I did what I'm saying? I might let her win, you know, just because you look, I don't want to earn her feelings. You know, you can't hurt everybody, you know? But then again, you can't give everybody what they want.

I love you, baby. And I appreciate you for sliding through for real. Thank you for having me. I like having me. and hopefully, you know, I get you back in the future because I'm definitely going to keep my eye on you now. Oh, yeah. You got an eye in the sky.

I like that. Top-op. I'm on you. I'm going to be watching everything that you're doing from now on. So any time that you do some bullshit, I'm going to make sure it's on the news too. I'm like, hey, y'all, what happened to him, Martin? Yeah, she was talking all that shit, right?

Look what she did. Look, oh, we're going to keep an eye on you. Yeah. Yeah, straight up. Keep it positive all the time, though, you know? Only talk nice about me. I'll try. I'm saying, I sit with a lot of people.

You said my friend. I can't make anybody say what they want to say. They see the news topic and they'd be like, Hermione did this or whatever the case may be. They're going to be like, what the fuck? And you're going to say, no, she is the best. She's the best. I know her.

She's the best. I can say that, but they'll still disagree. They're going to laugh. As long as you're on my side, we're good. Sure, man. As long as you're on my side, we're good. I'm on your side, the whole way. Say lifts.

When's your next concert, I'm coming. When you're doing a show? When you're doing some shows, you're on tour? My next show is in two days. That's why I have to go back to Australia. That's what I'm going tonight. Fuck it, we're flying in. We need to be there for that.

Yeah, you've got to come out. We have heaps of festivals coming up to. Heaps. Heaps. I don't like people sit in my shit. Because I'm like, I fuck with her. Like shit. We go around he'll have heaps of festivals.

fun. We did. We all smoke heaps of weed. I'm going to move heaps of bitches. Hopefully I get heaps or no. You did? Straight up. I love you, Mama.

I appreciate you for coming through. I love you too. I'm going to stay. Hey, I'm going to stay watching. All of the viewers stay watching. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to all the Australian fans, man, that have been fucking with you and staying

on game with you and really helping you push your pace. For sure. Thank you. I appreciate you guys. Thanks for having me as well. We appreciate you, baby. We're going to see you again.

right? Bring your ass back for a panel. I'm not playing. Sure. Get it. You ready for that? I'm here. Don't be scared.

Man, I'm going to help you. Like, somebody trying to jump on your weed. Ain't having that. Yeah. So you can talk your shit. Exactly. Don't be afraid. I'm not.

You're afraid of the dark. I'm not. Like the Nickelodeon show. It's okay, baby. Hey, man, the sharp tank. No jumper. Sharpest coolest podcast in the world, baby. We love you.

And, hey, Mikey. Shoot us out the motherfucking gym.