No Jumper - Amy Luciani on Relationship w/ Young Thug, Love & HipHop, Mazi Breakup & More
Episode Date: May 31, 2023The super talented Amy Luciani sits down with Flakko to talk about Love and Hip Hop Atlanta, growing up in Detroit and calling it “The Musical Mecca”, Young Thug, and much more! 00:00 Intro00:05 ...Amy says she is the original “Amber Rose” 2:25 Growing up in Detroit, considering Detroit “The Musical Mecca” 5:40 Becoming an icon, making $80,000 by selling the “Hair Plug, and addressing wig beef 12:00 Making a million off hair, avoiding the “influencer” title, and becoming the “Skit Queen” 17:05 Turning down large movie roles, parting ways with Mazi, and coming back together in the future 25:20 Flakko on getting the “Bandman Kevo” surgery 31:15 Amy breaks down her relationship with Young Thug and addresses Jerrika’s accusations 38:10 Amy talks about her reaction to the YSL RICO and working with Gunna in the future 41:55 Finally joining “Love and Hip Hop Atlanta” 46:00 Amy on why she started “World of Dreams” the record label 49:20 Amy describes her sound, Latto’s ghostwriter reaching out, and writing hits for major female artists 56:35 Amy’s creative process on recording “Bag Lady” and always being musically gifted 1:01:10 Amy names the artists that she wants make a record with and who’s the Queen of rap 1:05:10 Amy on if she would pay for a feature from Kash Doll and why it hasn’t happened yet 1:09:10 Making a million without a label and how that changed the grind moving forward 1:12:20 Moving from a condo to a mansion with Mazi and their relationship today 1:19:35 Why Amy decided not to drop an OF and continued to sell hair out the trunk 1:24:00 Amy lists her Mt. Rushmore of female recording artists 1:26:05 Amy promotes upcoming album “Amy’s World” and explains roll out ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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No jumper coolest podcast in the world, but we're back.
Yeah, yeah.
Listen, we got eight, listen, bro, I can't stop smiling.
Fam, listen.
The IG pictures don't do you justice, Amy.
Oh, friend, stop.
You are gorgeous in person.
Thank you.
You are, how are you feeling?
I'm excited.
I'm at no jumper, flaka.
I'm with, wait, wait, can we pause before we start?
Because I don't want to mess up, no names.
First off, do you know how to say my last name?
Amy Luciani.
That's why I stopped it.
So Luciani.
Oh, Luciani.
But it's okay.
Okay.
Because most people say Luciano or Luckiano.
And I'm like, it's all good.
Does me say that.
Yeah, they do.
They go on some.
Go him with the Luciano.
Yeah, Luciano's crazy.
Got it.
It's Amy Luciani.
Yep, like Luciani.
Wait, and that's your real last name or that's like the...
My government, my real first name is Amber Rose.
I am the real Ambrose.
Really?
However, we let the queen, beautiful Ambrose.
run off and do her thing with the name.
And I just came up with a stage name
that just made sense.
It was getting feminine.
But gangsta, we were the Amy and the Luchiani.
So the streets and the industry
calling me Amy Luchiani,
but I am really the real Amber Rose.
Yo, I would have been kicking my...
Bro, I would have been beefing...
Wait, hold on.
Like, listen, right?
Because my real name is a Fred Jolla, right?
And somebody else come out with Fred Jolla.
I like...
That's your first name?
Yes, Fred.
What does it mean?
It means something.
Fred?
Fred.
Fred Jolla?
Oh, no, Jal.
Oh, no, Jal.
I'm about to say, is you French and black?
Fred Jalah.
No, no, no, no, listen.
I'm asking, right?
Wait, but she came out with your name.
Wasn't you, like, at least upset?
Like, bro, like, why is she out here, you know,
like carrying my, you know, like my name as her stage day?
You know what?
In the beginning, I was upset, and then I just kind of over years evolved.
Like, everything just happens.
You just got to flow with it and not dwell on it.
But my entire family still call me Ambrose.
My real friends, like, back home, they'd be like,
Jamie, you're Ambrose.
Yeah.
And, you know, a lot of people say, they argue on my page.
Like, why are y'all calling her Ambrose in the comments?
You must be a new fan.
And then my real fans, and they argue it, like, you don't even know her real name.
So for me, I just, it's a fun thing.
I love it.
Ambrose has DM me before.
We've had a conversation.
It's no smoke.
Okay, she's dope.
Yeah.
You just got to turn it.
good and the bad and keep running. I ain't dwelling
on nothing. Yeah, man. Where's
back home? Detroit, Michigan.
The best city in the world.
Yo.
I feel like every trick from Detroit,
right? Like, got like some type of like, for example,
like, it's a cash doll effect, right? Right.
Gangster, but bad.
Right? I get that.
How was it like growing up in Detroit?
Detroit is just a busy
city. This is not a city where you're
going to meet a lot of people who
have the story of they had a silver spoon.
You're probably not going to be anybody who can say that.
Real grinding in Detroit, real testimonies.
Like when you see somebody who has been successful,
you should tap in and really understand the story
because those who have been blessed and fortunate enough
to have some success and turn where we come from
into something big is people who really got a story behind them.
So Detroit, we just breed great people.
And I think that Detroit has been on the map for a long time.
I feel like the last two years has been more notoriety for the new artists and the new sound.
But Detroit has definitely been like the musical mecca for a long time.
We don't get as much credit.
But I love my city.
Although I live in Atlanta and I've been there for some years.
I always go back home.
I always try to pay homage to my city.
And I'm glad I'm there.
I feel like I got the tough skin from Detroit.
And I took that energy and brought it to other places.
And I'm just working my way through the streets with it.
Yeah.
Wait, so growing up, was you, like, in the streets, or you were, like, again, you know, I'm the suburbs, a passenger princess.
I wish.
Definitely, my mom was a single mom, five kids.
God damn.
We live, we, it was not the best story in the beginning, but it's a good one now.
We've, my mom has thugged it out hotels with us.
Wow.
We have been through some things, and so shout out to Mom, Dukes.
So it's been definitely a testimony,
so I'm excited to not have started off with a silver spoon, if anything,
because I got a lot of people around me who really don't know the streets at all.
They don't have finesse at all.
At all.
They don't know survival skills at all.
So, you know, I'm just glad how everything just panned out.
Yeah, but what's your dad at?
He is deceased.
Oh, God damn.
Sorry about that.
I didn't know him too well.
Oh, no?
No, I didn't know him too well.
Damn.
You know, rest of peace to hell.
I'm not even being funny.
my dad was not really present in my life.
So his passing obviously was like, darn, I kind of was hoping that, you know,
I would become a woman and be able to mend with him, but that never happened.
So it's always just been my mom.
My mom definitely wore both hats for sure.
Yo, listen, like, a mom probably like, yo, I raise a star, man, feel me?
Listen, because all you need just one star.
Just one star, yeah.
Right?
Just one, right?
Hey, listen, man, listen, her baby is a rapper now.
she's a, no.
So first of, forget the right.
You are a hustler.
Hustler first.
That's, listen, that's the one thing,
thing that I say, yo, like, you actually
like inspired me like, bro, these
digital products, bro, like.
Get you one. So one,
just speak about this, though. So how
did you, like, transition from Detroit
to getting on the internet?
Yeah. And being, like, you know,
like a star and influence.
What do you consider yourself?
I am an icon.
Get to know me.
I like that.
I'm icon.
We grow into Icon shoes
so we're starting here,
but I'm already claiming Icon energy.
But the transition, honestly,
it was so crazy.
I didn't plan and think it would.
I didn't even know how it was going to happen.
I knew what I wanted,
but I never had a plan on how I would do it.
I always just work and hustle.
And I just always told the universe,
give me what I deserve.
Don't give me what I don't need.
So for me, I think it was like an overnight thing,
just literally imagine.
your broke is hour, like lights
gonna be off in days.
If you don't come up with it,
if your mom don't bless you again
because I burnt those bridges.
Damn. Financial.
I couldn't brawl no more for her at one point.
But I had a hair business
and it was always enough with my hair company
to pay the bills.
It was never enough to start a tour
or go ball or even hit the studio
more than twice a week.
But it was enough to pay the bills.
And I had really good hair.
Clearly, friend.
We can tell.
What's that?
My hair.
Yeah.
The bundles are still bundling.
Okay, we can tell.
So I was the hair girl, so I was selling hair.
I always had just enough with the money to, you know, pay bills.
And people always would say, we don't want to buy hair from you at retail.
You know, we want to get it from your plug.
Because we know, bitch, you get in wholesale from somebody.
And for years, I was like, I'm never giving up my plug.
Y'all bitch is going to buy for me until a bitch life was about to get cut off.
Damn.
And then one day I was sitting there and I was like, yeah, this is really bad.
This year is not going well.
I think I need to sell my plug.
for a little short moment.
I was like,
I was seriously going to sell my hair plug
for like a week.
So imagine you just waking up
your account is in the negative.
Yeah.
And then you wake up and you got $80,000 on cash-in.
Oh, God, damn.
I made one post one day and was like,
you know what?
You all been buying hair for me from years.
I've been begging for the connect.
People have offered me $1,000 to buy my plug.
I said, for today only, I'm selling my vendor for $200.
And I woke up with $80K to next day.
And I was like, God.
Is this legal?
Can I really transfer this money to my bank account?
Yeah.
And from there it was the rest.
I just became like the hair girl.
And then from there turned it into this,
turned into digital products.
Yeah.
And then start focusing the money on the music,
which was the goal the whole time.
But when you were broke, bitch, you can't do music.
You got a girl first, man.
I know.
Yo, the most crazy, right, is you got me beef, right?
So look.
So I'm like just scrolling down TikTok, right?
I've seen this video.
And bro, I'm in the comment section, bro, you is hating.
You feel me?
You lie don't hate me.
Right now.
Okay, so it's a video, right?
Where this chick.
Right.
Essentially, bro, I've seen the play.
Yeah.
She tried to use you to sell her own hair, right?
Yeah.
By lying about saying, oh, you know, and she scamming and her, like, hair vendor.
But the post, like, here, right, you tell her, you know, this is Chinese.
And she still tried to say, oh, I thought it was Indian, right?
So just speak on that situation.
where people, especially a black woman at that, brother.
I thought to, like, tear you down to, you know.
Yeah, yeah.
So it's so funny that situation happened,
and it was an eye-opener for me.
It did nothing but pushed me more into where I was supposed to go.
So this particular loser brought my hair vendor.
Yeah.
And to promote her business, she was like, yeah, I bought her vendor.
And I didn't like this wig from the vendor,
so I went to find my other one, so y'all should shop me.
And I called it out.
I said, listen, I've already connected, hit my vendor.
vendor got her information, I will give you $10,000 right now today.
Right here and right now, I will literally send it over to you.
If you can show me any proof of receipt, any invoice that you ever bought a
fucking wig for my vendor.
Yeah.
And you never heard from the bitch again.
That's crazy.
You never heard from her again.
The clock was ended.
And it was a sad situation because literally the video in her head was not even from
my vendor.
No, of course.
But it was just promotion.
I wrote her privately and said, sis, I've already made a million.
off of hair. I've been probably in a situation
I'm assuming you're in right now.
This is not the way to go.
No. The reverse happened for her.
I checked. I'm petty. I'm a Gemini. I'm a Gemini.
You checked? Checked? Check back in 12 months later.
Hair website gone, because I could never forget her name.
Because she was the first person who went that route
against me. And my business, where
at the time where I was selling my list, my vendor list,
I had a product called the Vendor Bible. So if you wanted to start
clothing brand, I had that on there. If you want to hair,
book bags, anything,
I had the list.
She was trying to do the same thing,
but I'm like, the way you're doing about it
is kind of cloudy, and that doesn't work.
It only works when you buzzing for the day
and all people are into it,
but next week you're going to see.
Nobody going to fuck with this.
And I was right, and she never took the $10,000.
She got roasted.
She got roasted.
She got took out.
She took everything down.
And when I found out somebody knew her,
she was from Georgia, they're like, she's 19.
Oh, wow.
I was like, you know,
we're going to pray for her.
Yeah, and we move forward.
And, of course, it was highlights and, you know, promotion for me.
Yeah, and we just kept going.
Yeah, man.
Yo, like, because I'm in the comment section, man, like, it's like, hey, bro, for example, right?
Because, like, just being black, right?
Right.
It's our duty, bro, like, it's our duty, especially as young entrepreneurs, right, common
right?
Because, listen, like, like, like, like, here, right?
So, like, most of us, right, never had, like, an actual blueprint to the shit, right?
Exactly.
Bro, like, we woke up, we grind and we just making it shake.
Yeah.
And for her to go out her way to, well, again, like,
like, tear you down is cool, but lying to tear you down,
that's crazy.
But pass her, though, because we give her no clout.
No clout.
No shot.
And the funniest thing is, I had such an easy, it was like,
I got real attorneys.
Yeah.
So for me, it was, my attorneys in 72 hours had already did all.
I knew the name.
I didn't knew she lived in Georgia, but it's like,
when I found her age and then we go into,
I'm on Shopify.
I've been running up.
So Shopify owe me.
I got people on that side.
We look, I'm looking into your store.
Yeah.
I'm seeing you ain't making no money.
Have a little grace on her.
But, you know, we're moving along to the bag.
Bro, listen.
M off of hair.
How'd you even do it, man?
Like, how?
Just really, just the quality, just my name.
I've always kept my name clean, my nose clean.
If I stand behind a product,
I'm not the girl who people try to deem
this small category is like,
an influencer.
Because you see me on social media
become successful, but
I'm a business woman.
I'm not an influencer.
That's the title
that we're using
in this millennial type of situation.
But before people were on Instagram
and showing cloud and faking this and that,
I've always been the hustler.
I've always been the one.
They know me back home in Atlanta.
I used to pop the trunk with the bundles.
Have fake security with me, my homeboy.
And it's like, come get these bundles.
I used to post the location.
run up 10K over a weekend.
I've always hustled.
So for me, it was unfortunate
like when Instagram kind of blew,
people just tuned into me
like almost living in the mansion
and doing that.
But it's like, y'all didn't get to see
this was some real,
I'm a business woman.
I don't even like when people say,
oh, that's the influencer like, girl.
No, don't play with it.
Don't play.
You don't understand.
It's been a real fucking grind for this.
But, you know, I get it.
I know influencers is like a title
people die for,
but I'm trying to go beyond that.
That's almost too...
Low for you.
It's too easy.
Like, I want to influence you to really get a bag.
So the influencer role just posting pretty pictures and stuff,
like, no, we're going bigger than that.
Now, my facts, man.
Here, so, like, when did you get into, like, the skit creating, though?
Because you're funny as hell, right?
Now, again, no.
Now, again, like, like, like, like, like, most girls still don't have a personality.
Right.
Right?
Again, like, most women that I know,
ain't making me laugh, right?
I made you laugh for it?
Yeah, right?
Now, did you know that you was funny?
I've always been just a nut.
Like, I've always been,
people claim to be these hippies and these free spirits,
but people who know me will tell you,
I'm probably, I'm hippied out.
Despite, I'm hippied out.
Yeah.
Good vibes.
We like to laugh.
We smoke our happy grass.
We get our money.
We don't be in no bullshit.
Yeah.
So I've always been funny in light of.
I'm just me.
Yeah,
so I guess that's funny
because I'm not,
people think three times
before they think and say something
to me, I'm just saying it.
Yeah.
And I know how to say,
I'm sorry if that offended you,
but this is the truth bitch
like this is what it is.
And for some reason,
it's always been funny to people.
But I've always been like,
no,
I was serious when I told you that.
Like, I was not laughing.
I was serious when I said that.
But I just, you know,
just being me has always been
just a good vibe and laugh for people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hey, right.
So walk me like through the
exactly at what point
did you say listen
I'm going to hop on Instagram
and start doing these skits
when my friend made a million dollars
in like three months off of social media
and he showed me with my own eyeballs
his name was Robbie
he was on a lot of skits
Oh Robbie World right
I started my first viral skit was with Robbie
it was actually his biggest skit
to this day it was the biggest skit
it is the biggest skit but anyway
I was
I was one of the first, I guess, I hate to title like,
the baddies or the girl with the body.
Yeah, facts, of course.
I was one of the first girls to do a skit with him.
And when he showed me what they were bringing in, I was like,
but how?
He was like, oh, just skits on Instagram and YouTube.
And I was like, no, but how?
He's like, oh, just skits and YouTube.
But how'd you do it?
He was like, what you're doing with me right now.
I said, oh, so you're going to make money on me.
Yeah.
So that's what y'all niggis been doing.
And when he showed me and I was just like,
you got me fucked up.
Yeah.
If you think I'm going to keep doing hair and selling hair
and like I'm getting money,
but I'm trying to get money, money, money.
And it was overnight.
I was like, oh, call me the skit queen for the next year.
So I instantly started doing skits with him,
linked up with my ex.
We started doing skits together,
which turned into YouTube,
which turned into a bag that I was like,
girl, if you knew about this shit,
three years ago.
I would probably have 10 number ones by now
because I didn't know.
And I just became like
the skit girl for like three years in a row.
I didn't even know I would become that person.
Yeah.
Like I just became it.
I didn't know.
I didn't know about skits.
I didn't know about content,
but I know that I'm good on camera
and people tend to want to vibe with me.
Like, come get on this video.
And when the money came in,
I was like, yeah, I'll be the skit queen
until the next blest.
and come in.
So we just ran with it, ran it up.
Everything was all the money was used to fund the career
and take care of my family.
So the skit part of Amy was lit.
I'm glad that I just always didn't want to be
just the skit girl.
Like at one point I was being offered comedian-type bookings.
Oh, really?
I was like, no.
Y'all going too far with this, like real stand-up shit.
With bigger names, though.
Yeah.
And I was getting emails.
I was like, I don't got the confidence to stand up there and tell jokes for 30 minutes.
No, I can't.
No, you can for sure.
Listen, I've seen some of these people who transitioned from the Instagram shit to the state-up shit, and they was trash at it.
So if they're still doing it and they suck at it, then I feel like you could do it too, man.
I'm scared, friend.
I'm just going to just, I'm going to ride my lane.
I don't know.
No.
No?
I have people really trying to, like, I don't.
I can teach you and, like, give me a couple months and give you,
I guess it's like a system of the stand-up comedy,
tell the jokes, and then you go.
There's writers, too, yeah.
Yeah.
Like, I had people actually trying to format a career around it,
and I was like, no, I cannot.
And I'm not.
But you actually, like, respect the art.
That's why, right?
For sure.
I respect it, and I'm a lane writer.
I'm an artist.
I'm a talent.
I'm a songwriter.
I'm a businesswoman.
I, although Gemini, we be low-key, great at everything.
I don't want to try to run with every fucking thing for the money.
Like, I'm good on that.
So shout out to all the comedians making a bag.
I love to laugh and get high and have fun with them.
And I party with them and hang with them.
But I don't want to be the girl into that.
Yeah, facts, man.
Now, I know you get asked this probably every interview, man.
You and Mazzie, y'all ran it up, man.
You feel me?
Your word was at some point probably the biggest, like,
and then that couple doing skis,
y'all ran it up.
We did.
Right?
We did.
Now, what led to y'all eventually, like, part in ways?
What led to Mazz and I part in ways is I think that Mazz and I both came from like a nothing to something situation.
He met me one year until me having financial freedom.
Like a year, if he had met me a year prior, broke his fuck.
So when he met me.
Oh, he came up then.
God damn.
See, you stupid.
But he was also.
artist.
Like at the time when I met him,
if you had a Googled him or YouTube him,
he had,
I had two videos on the internet at the time for music.
He had 14.
So he was well doing his thing in Texas
and he came to Atlanta for his break.
So I came to Detroit for my break.
So what happened is two people fall in love.
We're both on the same struggle.
He's trying to get on.
I'm trying to get on.
And although that can somehow seem like
a beautiful love story.
Yeah.
When both people, money up one week,
money down.
Yeah.
This person is going up, you're kind of here,
and you've got two different teams with two different narrations.
I think y'all should be like the next Gina Martin.
Yeah.
But then this label that he's entertaining and saying,
no, I think you should stop making this this couple thing.
You're Mazzie.
Then I got my team saying, hey, everything doesn't have to be your ex.
Just trying to work on really becoming successful.
A lot of stuff happens off camera that you don't see.
It can slowly turn into like almost a business deal.
where we're making so much money.
We're this YouTube couple now.
But we got real life issues.
We don't even had time to have an argument
because in two hours we got to show up
and be here and host this shit together.
But I'm really mad at you and I'm fucking with you right now.
Or bitch, I ain't fucking with you right now.
But we got to smile because it's a camera in front of us.
That must suck, though.
And it does suck.
And it sucks for first timers.
I feel like now in the space,
what we know now, we could have balanced it more.
Yeah.
But honestly, it's first timers.
We didn't have a blueprint.
So it turned into almost like a business situation.
It wasn't as fun when the cameras come off.
But yet, we got money now.
Yeah, you're up now.
We're up now.
And I'm just a real bitch.
At some point I was like,
we're arguing a lot about business and deals and money.
We got this TV show trying to sign us to do this Amy Amazi.
We were actually in the middle.
We were four months in filming a reality show.
Oh, yeah.
But who they wanted me to be on the show and who they wanted him to be.
For the bag, it would have been cool, but it didn't work.
And it was just so much business at one point, and we just, like, crumbled apart.
Yeah.
And we actually just got in a space to actually being able to be cool again.
I've seen y'all on, I think it was live, right?
Or TikTok, right, I think, yeah.
Probably live.
Yeah, live, right?
But how do things spill over onto the internet?
Because, listen, because you're somebody who, you stay out of the fuckshed, you stay out of drama, you mind your business, man.
One of y'all's a nigger.
That's how I feel.
I was an interview, that nigger.
Which camera?
Who?
That nigger did it.
He did it.
But no, I didn't got past that,
because I didn't did some shit too off camera.
But that Negro, he got upset, he got in his feelings.
I caught off the engagement.
I didn't publicly say it.
But everybody noticed I wasn't wearing the big ring.
And I was, like, moving with a team.
And fans and supporters, they're not dumb.
Of course.
If they watch y'all come up and suddenly her ring is off,
what was happening.
They started asking questions.
I wasn't answering the question.
Yeah.
And then he started responding to it.
So next thing you know,
the blogs ate it up.
Yeah.
And then he took it to YouTube.
Oh, man.
And I was like, wow.
He made a bag off me.
Yo, listen, but the one thing, though,
I don't ever want to get into
no verbal argument with Amy,
bro.
Because I said, God, listen,
that's the last thing I want to get into.
Now,
there we go.
Brat, you,
it's not nice.
It's not crazy.
But it be truth, though.
Yeah, now, facts.
Because you show like the house, hey, yo, this is my house.
And I did not lie.
Nah, at all, man.
It was my stuff.
Yeah.
And I worked hard for it.
Yeah.
And, you know, I felt like when he did what he did and I did what I did, I did not feel
good when I did what I did.
But in this industry, we're in the first person who speaks up first, you're the other
person is just wrong.
Yeah.
You're just canceled.
You're wrong.
Because, bitch, if you were right, why you didn't speak?
why you didn't tell us the fans, why you didn't tell us?
So, like, when he did what he did out of his emotions,
I was like, no, I got to go defend myself,
but see, the way I'm coming.
I'm coming with facts.
I'm a woman.
With ether.
I'm coming with facts.
And when I did that, it was almost like,
people were like, we knew it.
We knew what was going on, Amy.
Thank you for clarifying.
And I didn't feel good,
because to clear my name was to kind of diss somebody
that I really loved for a long time.
So I felt like I don't want to play that game,
again.
No.
I feel like my hands was kind of tied into responding and defending myself.
But even at the end, everybody was clapping for me.
Like, we knew you had obtained all those things for y'all.
But it's like, I'm not that person who go against the family.
I don't go against my exes, especially my ex-fiance.
So I was not in a good space last year doing that.
Like, after I dropped that video on YouTube, it was one video.
I never spoke again on it.
Yeah, that video cringes me when I watch it because it's so far from what I want to.
it to do so.
Yeah.
But listen though.
Now, I've seen y'all, you know, and on live, you know,
y'all was friendly, smiling, you know, so will the fans ever get to see y'all come back?
You know, maybe if it's not dating fully, but, you know, come back and work together,
you feel me, you know, do more skits, you know, do a show.
I always say, like, it's just on the universe and it's timing.
I'm glad beyond us making money and doing with the fans.
want. He and I behind closed doors.
We just got in the space of, this is the person I was with almost six years.
God damn.
Like, this was everything to me.
So I don't want to do it for the TV.
You know, I'm on a TV show now.
I didn't want it to be fake narration.
I didn't even want to put him in a spot to be drug beyond what he was getting drug.
Because that's what they wanted to see anyway.
But, you know, right now we are just friends.
I'm so excited for him.
And I just don't want no smoke.
I just, you know.
I hope one day we can somehow
in an authentic space
be able to maybe get on camera
but I don't want us to be money driven anymore
that's not of this space
so we'll see
it must be tough day in Amy right
because you're gorgeous right
so you probably have every rapper in the world
damn you right so
did he navigate like the insecurities well
like for example again like I know me personally
but if I'm like you know
I'm glad to do my thing you know
I'm still lit but not you know not rap a lip
Right.
Yeah.
And then my girl, you know, got the perfect body, perfect face guy.
I'm talking about the biggest rappers in the world come at her.
Did he navigate that well?
He handled it really well.
Yeah.
I would say, and this is so crazy, although we didn't work out, I know it's so confusing.
I'm Gemini right now.
Like, bitch, if this is the case, why is it again?
Mazzie was probably the most compatible guy I've ever met.
But it was just a few things in business that didn't work.
And business is important.
This is my lifeline.
Absolutely.
So he navigated it.
well.
It was no insecurities.
It was like, he handled it better than I did sometimes.
I'm like, so that didn't shake you up a little bit?
No.
He's like a small town country guy.
Yeah.
Shit don't really phase guys like that.
Like, they fight barefoot, race pigs.
They don't, they really move by shit that the average nigga moved by.
So he handled it really well.
Yeah, me, listen, man.
Bro, I'm doing the most, man.
Yeah, no, he ain't.
Now, now, wait, first of you.
off though,
and here's, again,
and here's like the one question, right,
that my group chat wanted me to ask you.
Right.
Is the body real?
Some of the body is real.
Mm, okay.
So, like...
Some of the body is real.
All right, so what's real and what's not real?
The tithes is fake.
Ass is real.
Okay.
Lips is real.
The ass is real.
Cheap bones is real.
Yeah.
Lips, ass, stomach.
Got a little titty job.
Well, tities is i-cool.
Yeah.
But, like, we all think,
thought that you got a BBL, so that's not true.
Girls my age can't even get BBLs.
I mean, girls my size can't even get BBLs.
Oh, yeah, that's true.
How would I get a BBL?
Mm-hmm.
You know to get a BBL, you got to suck fat from something
and fill it up real good in the next place.
Yeah.
What, that's true.
Yes.
And that's pretty convincing.
So, again, so she don't got a BBL.
No.
You're paying for the body that her mama gave her.
That my mama gave me.
You know, so funny, I always have to post pictures from, I don't even do it.
Now my friends do it.
They post all the pictures, middle high school, all my sisters.
They post my mama.
No, I've never been thick.
I've always just been what they call like the slim girl with the fat ass.
That's the thing.
So I've always been that.
But now we're in an era where once I went to got some work done, it was like, oh, bitch.
Your feet goes love to hate, man.
You all fake now.
Like, my new argument is because the lip thing is like the big thing.
Yeah.
I'm now defending.
Now I'm posting pictures of my lips from middle school.
Yeah.
And that's crazy, man.
Yeah, it's crazy.
So, no, everything is not fake.
We've been giving fine.
But we enhanced it.
And let me tell you something, too.
If anything ever fall out of place,
a bitch will lay on that table and get it back in place.
Yeah, of course.
Facts.
I'm getting it done, too.
What's you getting done?
Listen, right?
So, right?
So, hey, right.
Right, so I've lost about like 20 so far, right?
So I'm losing another 50.
Man, listen, man, packs, you know, got the, you feel me, go to...
You're going to get the, the, um...
Ben-Man Kevoh.
The, what is it?
Ben-Man Kevold.
Yeah, of course.
And then he got a light-po, eh.
Listen, why not, right?
Here's the thing, why not, though?
Exactly.
If you feel like you're not going to lose the way naturally, and even if you lose it,
you want to tighten up and all that stuff, do what the fuck you want to do,
because everybody is.
telling you not to do it.
One, if they had the finances to do it,
they would be on the table right the fuck now.
Yeah, come on now.
And even if they didn't have the finances,
they had a way to hustle it up, they would do it.
So you gotta feel great like,
I got my teeth done a few years ago.
I feel great about my smile.
Oh, wait, those are...
Yeah.
Yo, okay.
I got my teeth done three years ago.
Where? Because it's like...
Hey, bro, because it's like, okay, so there's...
So, one, like, these celebrities, right?
They have, like, the veneers that are bucked-
Yours look natural.
It's not over big, so what?
How much did it cost?
Because I know it probably cost a bag.
My teeth were 17,000.
God.
But no, my teeth were originally 13,000.
But because I tried to do, like, the cheaper way,
I had to spend more on getting it fixed and getting a redone.
So originally it was 13 and ended up turning to 17.
But it was, again, it's investment that made me feel good about myself.
Yeah.
And I do that.
I will do it again.
So I'll definitely try to go for
this is weird.
So if you look at my old smile,
people will be like,
bitch, you always had nice teeth.
But I had a gap at the point
and I was going to get my veneers
and keep my gap.
But they show you digitally
how it's going to look.
And just when they reshape
and make them,
sometimes they got to get wider,
sometimes they got to get longer,
that with the gap
was giving hippopotamus.
I was like,
I was going to keep my fucking gap
because everybody's like,
I love your gas.
And I loved it too.
But when I seen the digital without, I was like, this, the size and everything, we have to go without it.
But I definitely had options to go brighter, bigger.
The dentist gave me options.
And I was like, see, that's what these other bitches is doing.
I don't know what this is, but we're not doing that.
I went to the lowest of white.
I went to the most natural of whatever.
Fix yourself up if you want to fucking fix yourself up.
Yeah, of course, man.
Yeah, right.
Okay, right.
So look, listen, so we at.
No jumper.
And listen,
and I'm messy as hell, right?
I love it because I'm a messy.
Now when I swing it back on you.
Yeah.
Keep that good energy.
No, no.
All right.
So Thug, right?
Mm-hmm.
So.
How I know Thug was coming.
I free Jeffrey.
Oh, yes.
Free my dog, but I knew it was coming.
Yeah, you feel me?
Now, all right.
So first just explain, like,
the relationship between you and Thug.
A friend of mine that was very kind to me.
Yeah.
Very nice.
A good spirit.
A artist that gave me
connections and put me in rooms with no sexual exchange for all those things.
So a dear person.
Yeah, man.
One of the few of the niggas of the industry who genuinely came into my life, assisted me,
gave me connections with no sexual exchanges.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now I, so now, and I think his girl at the time, I don't know her name, I think Jericho, right?
Yep.
So she tried to blast you, but.
Right.
But again, but your response, again,
I don't ever want to get into no verbal exchange.
Maybe, right?
So she tried to accuse you of having a relationship with Thubbe behind her back.
So, how did, like, that come about?
It came about from a woman, not having a lot of knowledge on what was really going on.
But I want to clarify at the time that I was talking and dealing with him,
there was no Jericho.
They were clearly both single.
They both did their little internet spat,
tweeting about it, taking pictures off,
and then he and I met at a musical event,
a music conference,
and we hit it off, we became cool.
So I don't side piece to nobody.
I'm the main piece.
Of course.
In every situation.
So just heard coming back in, he's a guy.
So at the end of the day, this is Jeffrey.
We talk about a huge artist.
So I never ever downplayed that he wasn't a nigger
who even though you and her ain't together,
this is years in, you probably was still,
you still was doing your thing.
I never disclaimed that for her.
But how it was depicted, like,
I was in this corner getting money off of him
and I knew about her.
It's like, girl, I'm not even fucking this man.
Of course.
We in this beginning stage of him being kind
and giving to me,
and there's been nothing but me and him
just linking for music studio, like hanging out.
We haven't even got to the juicy part yet.
Yeah, of course not.
But she did go on his phone and it was a video he sent to me.
I responded to it and sent another cute little yams.
Right.
It's not.
I would do it too.
Well, Paul, I wouldn't do it too.
But it's the, wait, but question though, right?
So like, okay, right?
So, like, does that count as cheat?
Like, for example, right?
So if let's say this, right, that a chick, it has a guy, right?
And you are just getting, you know, you know, catching a guy, right?
It's cheating.
Well, are you really like a side check, though?
If you're just getting money from him?
No, right?
Because you're not really like...
But it wasn't even money.
It was no side situation.
I think that, to be honest,
although she and I have spoken recently.
Oh, okay, okay.
Jericho and I, shout out to her.
Like, I don't got no smoke with no bitch.
Yeah.
Bitches really don't want no smoke with me.
And I really don't want smoke with bitches.
It's going to be smoke.
I'm good on it.
But she and I, we talked recently.
It was years.
We literally just talked.
It's squashed now.
It's good.
It was so over.
I'm like.
Hopefully Jeffrey is good
You know, I'm just, it's no beef
But the whole side piece situation
Is the first thing a girl's gonna do
Because side pieces are like the worst
Especially the black women
Bish is a five piece to my husband, my man
So when the girl gets caught
Or in a situation where oh you and him been texting
If I say you're a side piece bitch you're canceled instantly
Yes
So that was what it was trying to give
But it didn't give that
Yeah, it didn't give that for me
Because I'm coming with facts
So the video, the picture got sent down
It's like, who's this bitch DM in my, I'm texting my man
Been hanging out with him
And it's like, I felt like the energy
Like, because he was in the middle of
When I had a conversation
When we all knew about him and Jericho one and off
I'm like, you single, you good
I'm kind of public
My name is kind of buzzing
Oh, I'm single
And I'm glad I keep everything
So I had to clear my name and be like, yeah
By the way, sis, you actually owe me a policy
Because here is a text
Yeah
This is months back where, what's your situation?
Because I'm single.
At that time, I was like two years single.
Oh, I'm single.
I'm a couple months single.
Okay, cool.
We in Atlanta.
I'm an artist.
I'm trying to do what I'm doing.
So that's how that went.
But it was a situation blown out of...
Yeah.
We would have what?
Been a power couple.
Listen, I'll be real.
Like, with your, like, hustling mindset,
I can't even, like, fathom, like, where, like, you and Thub would be,
Like if he would have, you know, you feel me?
Shout out to Thug.
That's all I want to say.
I feel like Thug is, he's similar to my purse now.
He is really about his bag.
It's not all about, like, what I'm going to get off of you.
This is a person who genuinely will assist you and not be weird in return.
So, yeah, come fly out here and see me.
Come do this.
Like, a good person.
I don't think he got enough credit.
I never even got a chance to speak on it so much with him
because everybody was more entertained on two bitches fighting over a guy.
It never gave that.
to begin with.
So my team at the time was like, play the Beyonce Roll.
Bitch don't speak on it.
Yeah, for us.
And they'll stop talking about it.
And it worked.
But now that we're on the subject, it didn't give that.
It was like, you know, my brother-in-law died,
the took paid for the tombstone.
Didn't ask a question.
This was after the beef.
I went off and was like, you know,
even though your girl on and off again,
girl is doing this weird stuff, clear my name.
Let it be known that one, we never even crossed that line.
And two, I asked you in the beginning what it was, clear my name, and he cleared it.
He made a video like, y'all, chill out.
That girl, me and her, and even owned that.
He cleared it.
And then months later, my brother died, paid for the tombstone.
Didn't, like, I don't even let people really disrespect him in my face like that.
Because this was a person that was good to me.
So that situation was an internet, cloudy, viral shade room situation.
It wasn't even that.
And I took the bad light in it.
Because the more I was speaking on it, they were like,
bitch, maybe you were really doing that.
Yeah.
You cared too much.
So I was like, bitch, let me stop talking about it.
Yeah, of course.
Y'all ran with the stories.
And years later, it never gave that.
Yeah, of course, right.
And, and, right, listen, you can, like, tell, like,
for example, and if two people are, like, beefing, right?
And then, like, years later, like, one person is out here prospering,
you know, and other people, let's say, it's stagnant or they find.
Like, you can tell who was.
in the right, right? Which means, you know, you know, you prosper now. Now, okay, so.
I'm catching a shade. No, no, no, no. I'm a shade catcher. I caught it. Go ahead. Go ahead.
I have a neutral party. Now, all. Now, look, so what was your initial reaction when, like,
Derrico came, man, and all thugging him? It was just, unfortunate. I just literally, I just sent
a prayer up. I just know, and this industry is so dimensional. Yeah. You know, you may
rap about this and you may do that and people may be fans and it may give like what the lyrics
are saying but I'm lucky enough to know people on personal levels and all I did was just prayed
about the situation reached out to a couple people there are mutual friends of ours who used to be
around us and just checked in I'm not over checking in I'm not sending letters um I was in a years
years years relationship after you know him so I'm not a phony bitch like yeah
Oh, I'm writing Jeffrey.
I made one post, Free Jeffrey.
Yeah.
Hold your head.
He got children.
He got a mom.
He take care of sisters.
His sister just got killed.
I know, bro.
That's sad.
Real stuff going on.
And I know real people outside of like this entertainment person.
So for me, it was just sad.
I look at it like if my friend was to get locked up.
To write him though.
To write them though.
Right.
Like you should write them though.
Listen, I'm sure right now, you know, some selfies.
a full body picture.
More pictures of the yams?
Yeah.
Bro, listen,
they'll go a long way right now
for thug.
So you think I should send him
some yams?
Go ahead.
Right?
He's single.
So he for me.
Or is he?
Now, as far as
I'm concerned,
again,
I thought that him and
Maria the scientist
broke up.
Oh, okay.
Right?
So I assume they were single.
So if you're not single,
then I don't know.
Right?
But yeah, man.
All right, so wait.
So, so if gunner
right now wanted to do a song with Amy?
Like, what's your response?
I'm going to pass on it right now because I haven't done my full research,
but I have a person that's on the inside.
Yeah.
And it's looking sketchy from my inside connect.
Yeah.
But I'm on the outside now.
Again, this has been years.
So I'm on the outside.
So until I know what it is, I'm straight.
Until I, like, Thug, like, speaks and say.
Yeah, I'm straight.
Yeah.
Like even, I know he posted something and put the, either a singer or the album,
Jeffrey put it in his bio, and everybody was like, oh.
It's good now.
It's good now.
But it's more to that.
I'm just going to stay clear.
I don't want to offend nobody that was good to me, so I can understand what it is.
And I'm also not going to speak bad on gunning because I don't really know what it is.
But for what I'm seeing, I got to be like neutral and not move in that direction.
So I would say no.
That's so real, though, man.
Listen, because I'll be real, bro.
So when comes to chicks, especially chicks who are in the industry, right?
Yeah.
Ain't no loyalty to this.
Ain't no loyalty.
I know it firsthand.
Ain't no loyalty.
The word don't even exist.
How do you know firsthand?
I've been doing this.
I think people might look at me like you might not have went Cardi, Nikki big yet.
Yeah.
But I've been doing this.
You know what I mean?
I'm not just as boisterous and boisterous on the success that I've had.
But I'm really on the inside more than people know.
and I know how to watch things.
I got so much confidence and belief
that the way the universe is about to take me,
I don't click hop.
I don't jump opportunities for the bag.
I will miss a bag while I'm thinking about it
and miss the opportunity because I didn't do my due diligence
on what it is.
And a lot of girls are going to jump on the bag
and then you're not going to see them next year.
They're canceled out.
So, yeah, I'm pacing myself.
This shit is, this going to be a long-term thing for me.
Yeah.
Now, so speaking with love and hip hop.
So, again, so I'm nosy, right?
Mm-hmm.
So I heard that Amy is joining love and hip-hop Atlanta.
Now, when, now when you join it, you, like, you have to have a love,
either a love triangle or, or, or, or, or, I'm like, a spouse.
So who is Amy's spouse on love and hip-hop Atlanta?
Who told you you got to have a love interest or spouse?
Right.
No?
I'm on it without one.
How you got, I got like, three of them on there?
Ah.
Doing a little arguing, a little sweating over me.
So three niggas is trying to fight over you.
Listen.
And one might be in California.
Really?
And one might be in Detroit.
Yeah, let me find out, man.
And one might be in Atlanta.
Damn, three.
We're giving it up this season.
Like, I'm not love interesting.
I know that was typical.
But it's like a whole different thing.
MTV just bought the franchise.
Yeah.
It's really big.
Honestly, I'm excited.
This is my third offer for,
loving hip-hop in a span of five years.
Yeah. And I didn't do it either time.
Why?
I'm a real bitch.
Yeah.
I'm a real bitch.
This is not for this interview.
I will lose a bag and stay real before I go take the bag and do things.
So that's why I've, that's how I've been able to do this.
You know what I'm saying?
Like I've been doing it and move around.
But the first couple times it wasn't right.
I'm not going to get on the show where I know.
That's not who I am.
I don't really date this guy.
Why do I got to do that?
I don't really have beef with this.
Gotcha.
Fake storylines and shit.
Like, I get it.
It's good for TV, but I always said the day I come on TV,
I want people to really take something out of, like,
seeing me on TV every week.
So this third go-round was the right, this was the right situation.
Luckily for me, the network is going back
until making it about music and hip-hop.
They flew to Texas with me.
They cover my entire four-day stay, South by Southwest.
They come to my studio sessions, rehearsals.
Like this is really the music focused this season.
And I'm just excited to be able to do that.
You know, I got my chorus drama.
I got sisters.
I got a mama jurt.
It's crazy.
Okay, momager.
Yeah, I'm coming out of a relationship that was big.
Real shit is going going.
Yeah.
But it ain't fake shit going on.
That y'all going to love.
But I'm a hate when I watch it.
I'm not on that.
So it's a lit season.
That's all I got to fucking tell you.
I might really put my foot in my mouth.
Yeah.
This will be the first time me seeing this on interview.
I feel like this is going to be the lit of season thus far
to try to see you on Love and Hip-Hipa.
Who's on it, though?
Let me see who's on it that they have shown.
The way to show the Rose out who's on it, they keep secrets.
The promo that you guys probably just saw, you got,
let me just talk about the new ones that are new.
You got, of course, me on there.
You got Erica Banks.
Yeah.
You have Jessica White.
Supermodel, L.A.
You familiar with Jessica?
No.
Okay, well.
Not at all.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Super iconic model.
Yeah.
You got her one there.
I'm not going to mention
another person's name.
She's fairly, no, I don't like her, so.
Ooh.
I'm not going to mention her, but.
Is, and you go put, you know, the pause on her?
No.
Okay.
I'm not in the business of scaring the money, y'all.
Okay, smart.
I'm letting them do it.
This person I don't like.
The host tried, though, you go on you, for me?
We lays them.
We put them,
But I'm not on that.
You know what I mean?
But it's a couple newbies.
I'm really feeling the energy.
And I'm loving that, even though it's love in hip-hop Atlanta.
This season is like they put it, West Coast, East Coast, up top, Detroit.
Like, it's a new vibe going on.
And it's really so much more about this time.
Entrepreneurship, big business, small business, business growth.
I've been highlighted so much on my music that I'm just so thankful for the opportunity.
Of course, we give in TV.
I have to check a couple of bitches.
Yeah, of course.
Had to take the level up for a few of them.
But we're bringing it back to the business this season.
Now, speaking of the music, right?
I heard her turn, like heard that you started your own label.
Yes.
Called World of Dreams, right?
Yes.
So one, why was it important to like start your own stuff
opposed to just going to Atlantic Records to Sony, you know,
and just signing and taking that bag and, you know, and being good?
I just like to stand on
authentic business
and I felt like
although I'm still entertaining
a deal, a particular deal
deals
yeah
I didn't back coming
crazy man
I knew it was important
to start my own label
because the things that I've been through
trying to get on
I've gotten almost this close
and I've been in a situation
where I had to do
some morally things to get it
and I've had to walk away
but it's like right there for me
everything out it was right fucking there
and all I had to do is A, B, C.
Yeah.
And that was like probably a very depressing moment in my career
because I've wanted it so bad that I don't want anybody to be in that situation.
So although I'm working my moves and I'm not where I'm trying to be musically,
other people need to have a chance to not have to go through certain things that I've been through.
So I started World of Dreams because at some point I am looking forward to signing artists.
I am looking forward to having in-house production.
I'm already building like producers, photography, videographers, in-house.
And I just want us all to not be in positions where we got to lose all these rights to our art and our music
because we're assigned to this major person or this major hub.
So World of Dreams is what the name is.
It's World of Dreams.
Like my situation with artists, although I haven't signed anybody, I don't even think it's like in the next year right now.
Okay.
But I own it for now.
And I'm prepared to do my move, work my move, and then reach back.
You always got to reach back for people or reach down.
So I just went ahead and started the label.
And I'm excited to, like, really be able to give other people an opportunity to skip past a lot of the bullshit I had to go through to get here.
So that was honestly what I started it for.
And, of course, you know, signing myself and being able to keep a lot of ownership to my music and a lot of rights is important to me.
That's dope, of course.
Because I've watched it not go that way for a lot of girls.
And I talk to them and it's like, damn.
Like, they fucked you over.
I can't believe they fucked you the way they fucked you.
I can't get fucked like that.
Fan, bro, listen.
There's a lot of a love of hip hop girls who, you know, again, like we heard, again, you know, like we heard they making music like five years later, man, day.
Where is that?
Where is that?
Hey, no shame, man.
No shame, man.
No shade, but you got to see things like this
and you got to learn from this shit.
Yeah.
We're in a situation where we're blessed to be able to watch this stuff.
We can hear it on podcast.
We can see it on TV.
We can see it on the internet.
Why would you not hear about these things
and take heed and do something different?
Of course.
You know, with me seeing so many girls,
like you said, get fucked out of contracts.
I know girls don't even own the rights of their name.
That's crazy.
They are popping.
No, that's nice.
But a bitch can't even go use her name
because he own it.
I'm not going for it.
I'm just not going for it.
That's nuts, man.
Now, like, okay, so how would you describe, like, your sound?
I would describe my sound as just raw.
You know, I focus a lot more on lyrics.
I focus more on bars.
I know they feel like you either got to kind of have the body or the bars,
or you got to be fine, and then we kind of lose the bars within.
Yeah, facts, of course.
I'm balancing that shit out.
Yeah.
You're going to get looks and bars,
and I think that we are in a time where we want to hear fresh sound from women.
I have songs that talk about what a lot of the girls talk about,
getting money.
Pussy popping.
Pussy popping on the handstand, getting this from this nigger.
I've done all of that.
Like, I get it.
I rap about it, but it's something more after that.
Detroit females can rap, though.
Yeah, yeah.
And I rap rap.
Of course.
I ain't no ghost writer in the corner looking cute.
Wait, wait, though.
So now we got to ask that, though, right?
Because a lot of these girls say they got bars.
Like, for example, you know, I was really disappointed, right?
Because I thought, yo, bro, I thought, yo, again, like for Lotto.
I said, yo, I said, yo, Lado, bro, she got bushing on a rap.
Come to find out she got writers.
I said, damn, man.
A lot of them do.
So now, we know that Amy got bars.
So in five years, we would not hear that Amy has a ghost writer.
You will not.
but
stamped, merged it
you will not hear
that Amy has a ghost writer
yeah, period
facts
but let's talk about it
let's be real
yeah
when you're curating a song
you might have a person
with an idea of a song
the bubble of a song
yeah that's what it's about
the move I got the producer
you're not gonna ever write my verse
facts
but is Amy going to be willing
to let somebody come in
and say we got the hook
we got the vibe
nigga run it
if it's a number one
but I've had people come in
like yes oh this is so-and-so
he's roo for a loto
He's roving.
He's named people.
And it's like, that's cute.
Yeah.
But are we at a place that you think I need it?
No, I don't think you need it.
But I think you should.
I don't think I should then if I don't need it.
So I'm good on it.
But for a song, it's so many pieces.
You will bring a person, sometimes it has the hook or they bring their artists in to sing it.
And I'm not against that.
I'm for, a matter of fact, bring the fucking hit writers in and curate a song with me.
But I'm just not for you writing my fucking verse.
I'm sorry.
I've had arguments with major producers.
I've had fallen out with engineers who like,
you just don't get it yet.
I'm like, no, I get it.
But I'm straight on it.
Wait, wait, wait.
Lado's ghostwriter, like try to write for you too?
I know a lot of these.
God, dang.
I know a lot of these humans.
But I take it, though, because listen,
because, again, right, like,
it's probably like saying like, damn, bro, right?
But yo, like, they know how to write heads, though.
They write bangers.
You feel me?
Like, they know how to write hands.
Yeah.
Right?
Right.
So, you know, so, you know, so, you know, so, like, why not take it?
Some people, we saw, this conversation is so big about ghostwriting.
Yeah.
We got to say this too.
Let's look at it from two ways.
You know some bitch is coming to writing.
I'm sorry, some bitch is coming to rapping.
Lying.
And they're just trying to fucking get on, get money.
They're trying to put their mama on.
They're trying to put their family on.
Some bitches ain't coming in and saying I'm trying to be an Amy with the bars or I'm
trying to be Nikki.
Bitch, give me this song.
Let me rap and get my money.
We shouldn't discredit them girls either.
Girl, if you don't write, but you can rap it like you wrote it.
You can look the part.
you can keep up the image.
That's what she do.
It's no shade.
That's not what I do.
But I've been in the studio sessions
and I've written for some girls.
Who?
I have written for some girls.
I believe it, by the way.
I have gotten some major records and placements
taken from me in situation with major labels
and I'm the bitch in there with the hoodie on
with my little vape pen writing for these girls.
I literally like lived lives.
And I've done that.
And even though I was there in the room
writing for this girl
to know her hustle and her grind
and to know like,
this bitch has been in five states
in like two days.
I don't even look at her like,
I'm writing for her.
This is awkward.
No, I don't look at it like
some of your favorite people
didn't write them hits.
And we jam them every day.
Of course.
So it's just a weird conversation.
I just pride myself
that I don't have writers
and don't want them.
Don't want them.
Of course.
What you say, though,
five states and two days.
Now, there's really only like three females
who can really like...
Travel like that.
Like tour like that, right?
You feel like me?
Right?
Cardi.
Mm-hmm.
Nikki.
Lotto.
And who's the four...
A few of them doing it.
Right?
So, wait.
All right, now, though.
Now, now Cardi has been really open.
Well, listen.
Yeah.
I got them ghost writers.
You feel me?
Hey.
And she's laughing to the bank.
Everybody over here broke talking about
how she ain't rapping.
and writing, and she is laughing
and cashing the check
that she didn't write to.
When you write the right, do they credit you
and give you like your points on the song
or is it just like an upfront check and you go?
You can do a different way.
The best way is the way you just said.
You want to get the points you want to do it that way.
But sometimes in these situations,
these people don't want to be known
if they have writers.
Or sometimes the labels don't even want you.
You don't even exist, Amy.
You didn't exist, you didn't write this.
You were never here.
We got a team.
of writers
and it's not important
to know that it was six of us
on that song.
Sometimes it's been six of us
on the song.
Really?
It's been six
in a room
on one hit song
and it happened.
Wait, wait, wait.
Hey, right, so look, right?
So look.
I'm gonna name names, right?
And just tell me
if you've ever
been a part
of any one of these people's
collaboration process, right?
Lotto,
Nicky, Cardi,
Let me see, who's the top girls?
Dreezy, Bia.
Have I named somebody that you've been a part of their collaboration process?
You've named two, but I won't say their names.
Oh, Cardi.
Oh, right.
But you named two great artists that I've been a part of.
And Cardiolado did.
Right?
It's Cardi and Lado.
You named two out of them girls that I was blessed enough to be in a room with some great writers
and a part of some great situations.
One situation didn't go my way.
Yeah.
Because I didn't have proper representation.
I was just there.
And it just learned lessons.
But I have been a part of some major girls situations.
I'm excited to actually be able to say that,
but not say it without the name.
But for me and my team to know, like, yeah,
she was there.
She was writing that.
She was that.
And got money off of some of these situations.
I'm thankful for it.
Here, question, though, right?
So, here, right?
So do you ever say, like, damn, yo,
I wish I would have kept that song for myself?
Right?
No?
No.
I never say I wish I kept it for myself.
Because I could do it again.
I've done it again.
I'm doing it more.
No, facts.
I got something to cut.
Yo, it is one song that I saw,
hey, let me pull it right now, bro.
It is, it's called,
bag lady.
So one,
that's hard as fuck, right?
Entire song written by me.
Hard as fuck.
Right?
Not written.
I gotta stop seeing written
because I haven't wrote a song
in three years.
You just freestyle.
Every song, any song that you've heard of me
for the last three years, including Bag Lady,
any of them.
Like, Loa will tell you,
they be in the studio with me.
Like, they have to bring people in some time
to be like, just watch it for an hour.
This is crazy.
I don't write nothing.
You know, don't?
Wait, wait, though.
Wait, wait, wait.
when it paused.
So is it like
stop and plug it in?
Are you just going?
Be going?
It just spit.
It depends.
Sometimes it's a stop and go.
Sometimes it's a punch in.
Sometimes I can get a whole verse off
and it's like, that's the verse.
Yeah.
And sometimes more than others is punch in
is coming up with it in my head.
It just seems it comes off more.
The flow is different than writing it.
Now with my R&B music,
because I do sing, I play guitar,
I play piano.
With the R&B music, I write all of my R&B songs.
But any rap song, like, no, let's do it.
We ain't writing that.
When did you, though, like, for example, right?
Like, it's always, like, it's kind of, like, dope, right?
Like, for example, like, there's people who are just, like, Matt Townshend, right?
And you ask, yo, like, when did you know?
Like, right?
Like, that you had, you know, like, the if factor, right?
Like, for example, if you ask, that's the Michael Jackson,
yo, did you know you was like extraordinary?
Did you know you was like extraordinary?
I've always just been musically inclined.
Like I've always, music is my thing.
You know, some people, art is their thing, sports are their thing,
collecting pictures or is their thing.
Music has always been my thing.
I've always been the student who, my.
who might not have paid too much attention in school,
but I could hear a song one time.
And you, as a kid, they used to be like,
how did you memorize that fucking song?
And I could never tell you how, but that was just my thing.
I love instruments.
I hear songs and can tell you,
I could tell you the instruments and a lot of records
and a lot of people can't.
Because I play instruments.
I've always been into it.
So I don't know how long I've known it,
but I know that my thing has always been music.
It's something about music
that was the only thing to entertain me.
I never really cared, been too much into fashion
and all of the other stuff.
But music, I can sit there and listen to a music producer
tell me about his life for hours
and I don't get bored.
But a bitch can come up and talk about her hair salon
or her tattoos and my brain, I can't even focus
because I have ADHD really bad.
Oh, really?
I can't even hear what you're talking about.
If you talk about music or want to show me your studio and stuff,
you can get me all day to just listen to you.
So it's just been my thing for a long time.
Yo, that's so hard, bro, you feel me?
Yo, listen, like, and I truly think, right, that, like,
with love and hip-hop, like, for example, right?
We've seen, like, for example, Cardi, like, went from, you know...
Yes, she worked her move.
Yeah, right?
Now, I think that can do it for you, too, the love of hip-hop, right?
It's gonna.
No, but...
But if Amy blow up, listen, can you please, man, don't forget about a little flocker,
you know?
I definitely cannot.
Come back and fuck with me, man, you feel me?
Listen, and you are the first, no, you'll be the second.
Yeah.
Because I did do a major one yesterday.
Yeah.
And I know we can't mention it yet, but we did one last night.
It should be the second major platform.
So I'm always coming back.
Hey, man, come back and fuck with me, man.
I'm definitely coming back to fuck with you.
Yeah.
I'm bringing gifts next time, though.
Guess?
Yeah.
Listen.
I feel your energy.
I kind of know what you might, yeah.
Yo, those crazy, right?
Listen, like, there's, like, there's, like, there's, like, there's, like, there's, like, there's, like, there's,
mad big artist, right?
Mm-hmm.
Like,
like,
they say,
listen, man,
like,
I cannot interview
with Falko he's too messy.
They say you messy?
Don't listen.
Do you think you was messy with me?
Nah,
like we were cool.
I didn't even catch,
I seen how you could have been,
but that ain't messy
to someone I'm used to.
Yo, fan,
listen,
bro, listen,
like,
listen,
like this bigger artist
who would say,
fan,
like,
that nigger is too messy,
man,
feel me, man.
I feel me, man.
I feel like you might have
some messiness coming,
though,
for me.
No, no, not, not, not, not.
We're good now.
You're at level six.
Are you going to level 10?
No, not, not.
Okay, because I know how to not answer questions.
Yeah, man.
But question, though, right?
Mm-hmm.
So, okay, so who's like the next teacher for you?
Let me put in the universe who I want the next teacher.
Sure, okay, who?
I want to do a record with Cardi.
Okay.
I want to do a record with J.T.
you know, they'll go hard
I want to do a record with
Please say Dreasy
They'll go hard though
Like you?
I would love to do a record with Dreasy
I wasn't going to say Dreasy
But I would
I would actually love
Because Dreasy got bars bars bars
And she can rap rap
Yeah you mentioned Dreasy
I will say that because I fuck with Dreasy
But let me say who I will want to
Sure, okay
Party
Uh huh
Um
JT
I just know our energy would be crazy
and yeah
it's a lot of other girls
I want to do records with
but those are like right now
I'm not gonna go too far
and stretch it
let me knock out them too
okay
and get them records popping out
and then it's like
okay
the next will come
because it's more
of course
right now in this like
little bubble
I would let it just do them too
right now
now speaking of rap
though
there's a conversation
regarding who the queen of rap
is right
now in terms of
the king of rap
I always say it's Drake
right
but let's speak about
the queen of rap
You're looking at one of them.
Yes, you?
But outside of you don't aim me.
Who is your queen of rap in 2023?
I don't have one.
I don't have one.
And that's on my mom I don't.
Smart.
Hey, smart.
I fuck with all of them.
For all different reasons, I fuck with.
I'm not a team Nikki or team Cardi.
I'm team both of them, women of fucking color from the hood, did what I'm trying to do.
I'm fucking with both of them.
I'm not picking up.
side. Now, although I said I want to do a record with Cardi and I didn't name Nikki,
I just want to do a record with Cardi because I know just how it would be. I feel like our
energies are similar. But obviously, Nikki got bars. This is Nikki. You know, we've been
listening for a long time, but my energy, I want to do a record with Cardi. If one come with
Nikki, fucking fire because I love her too. But I ain't know, I'm a real, I'm not on that weird
shit. No, no, no. One bitch is the main bitch. I'm the main bitch. It's me.
Okay. I am her.
And all the other girls, I'd be like sitting there clapping, bitch
I'm learning some shit.
Oh, that's how you did it.
Okay, cool.
They all need to be my friend because I'm going there.
Of course.
I'm going up.
I ain't trying to just be on their friend, no, bitch.
You should be my friend because I'm next.
But I'm just supporting all the girls.
I think it's weird how one queen exists.
Where the fuck?
We got a mayor in every fucking town.
How the fuck is it one bitch?
at the top of anything, I'm her.
And I feel like
any girl that feels that
she's only the main one,
she ain't my type of bitch.
I'm not even going to be around or no way.
Because the bitches I fuck will be like,
bitch, you just ate that verse.
And so did I.
Now let's go party and celebrate
and turn it with the record.
But if you're sitting there like,
now I've got to have the first verse
and the best verse, you're not even a bitch
you're going to do a song with me.
Now, thanks, man.
Shout out to everybody.
What kind of vibe though with the song
with you in like Cardi Hafer.
For example, would you do like a Bodak yellow verse
or Wop?
Like, what'd you do?
I think the studio will create that vibe
and in person will create it,
but if I had my choice,
I would want it to be like a,
almost like a toast-type shit.
Like, bitch fuck them hating assholes.
Like, we doing this shit.
Like, I would want it to be
a kind of braggadole.
just arrogant record,
but I wanted to be for the hood,
bitches.
It's like toast into another step
that we went up.
Oh,
because Cash Dog.
Bro,
you went Cash Dog,
no,
like,
know how to talk that shit.
I'm talking about that bad talk.
You feel what you?
And you would think we would have songs together.
Of course.
Yeah,
why?
Yeah, like,
yeah,
like,
like,
why hasn't it happened yet?
Because y'all two are,
you know,
from,
oh,
oh,
so you don't know why.
I've asked several times.
I don't ask no more
and I,
and I won't ask again.
Do you charge it for the future, though?
What, what?
Is she charged it?
Would you pay or no?
No.
I wouldn't pay because we got a personal, this is a personal friendship that's going on.
But it's a weird space.
I feel like when I do these interviews, I always want to leave it on the floor and not have it weird.
Of course.
And like, oh, I should have said that I didn't speak on that.
Because it could be helpful to others and it can give clarification to the fans.
Me and Cash, both be in front of D, being sent.
and out with each other, I'm supporting, like,
we partied together. Oh, wow, okay.
To not have a record together.
Yeah, that's crazy. It goes back into,
this is my thought on it. Now, she
would have to speak on her own behalf.
I just did an interview actually on I Heart Radio, and I said,
I really want to have a conversation with her
about it before I talk about it on air, but here we are again.
And it's authentic and from a good space, what I'm saying,
sometime in this industry with women being
from the same place,
everything around them,
it might not be them sometime, but everybody
around them.
Label, producer, manager,
fucking the fans
back home,
only one of y'all
could be like
that brown-skinned
pretty bitch from Detroit.
Yeah, who can rock?
I don't fall into that weird shit.
But because she has made it
so beyond before me,
like as far as, like,
her name being more known
for the rap,
she got on first with it.
So maybe in her book and world,
this is a maybe it could be like,
what does it benefit
to, like,
you from the D, I'm from the D.
They somewhat say we remind each other of each other.
What would it benefit?
In my brain, though, it benefits a lot to put on for Detroit.
To put on for the little bitches is coming up after us who want to see it.
It would make sense.
But I'm not a beggar either.
So I put the opportunity out there and the conversation always get quiet when it's time for that.
But I feel like when it's been time to like me show up and support, pull up and do-da-da-da-da.
the conversation be loud.
Yeah.
But then when it comes down to amusing,
not just with her,
it's been like that
with a few other girls.
Yeah.
So I just learned to not take it personal
and be like,
I could show you better
and I can tell you one day.
It's personal, though.
Like, right, because, here, right,
because, like, if, if,
like, that's like your friend, right?
Like, for example, right, like,
like, we have homies,
we have associates.
But if you consider this person
your friend,
then your friend should be,
yo,
I would do whatever I can do,
whatever I can do,
to boost it.
Yeah, right?
Or is it on me for considering certain people in the industry, my friend?
Ah.
And not realizing, like, because you show up and were being a friend to them
and supporting and reposting mixtapes and pulling up.
Bitch, you was trying to be the friend.
That ain't that person for it.
They're like, oh, you were being kind and trying to be my friend.
But see, I've already, I'm here.
I'm not trying to be your friend.
I'm new to a lot of it, and I'm learning that the genuine heart that I have,
you can be bigger than me
and have a bigger following than me.
I still repost your album like, bitch,
like I'm bigger than you.
Yes, where.
My little 700,000 followers might help you.
Well, that's a lot.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm so like compared to bitches
with three, four, five million.
It's going to help, but I don't look at it.
We're like, she bigger to me.
Why would I repost him or post her?
I'm just authentically less fucking win
and we're from the same city.
But again, I'm not in a situation to beg.
And I'm a person who I'm very observant.
I watch more.
than I talk with people, and I also am a person that I know how this shit going to go for me,
and I just be like, we'll circle back.
Yeah, of course, man.
We'll circle back.
Do you think it's harder to our life, for example, right?
Like, if you've already made M's, and now you're starting to rap, right?
Right.
For example, if I am, like, am, like, starting from Ground Zero, right?
I'm coming and hungry, right?
For sure.
So, like, I'm begging out.
I'm going to fuck.
If you already up M's, is it hard to do like the ground level shit?
I had M's.
Yeah.
And let me be humble.
Not M's.
A M.
Yeah, facts.
A M.
Off of me.
Yeah, of course.
I made an M with no label.
No, no college education, no manager, no co-manager, no assistant, no nothing.
I did it.
Yeah.
So I did, I touched the M.
I know I can be multi-M's.
Yeah.
I don't think that once you get the money that the grind stopped,
to be honest, once I made that, the money comes with another lifestyle.
So normally when you kind of like hit the million-dollar mark,
you naturally like, I should probably move out this project-ass fucking apartment.
I did that.
I went and bought the mansion.
Then the mansion had people start moving in and start helping family.
When you make it, shit get bigger.
You suddenly overnight got so many more obligations.
So my grind got higher and harder
When I first looked and was like,
bitch, you made a fucking million dollars
What the fuck is this about?
How to fuck?
My grind got harder
And it's like people meet me
And they work with me
And they be like, dang, Amy
I think people sometimes view me more than
I think sometimes people
view me different than I view myself
Because I've had a lot of big celebrities
And big people be like
I can't believe how
first off, nice you are, how real you are,
how much you're working,
how much you're willing to grab my bag for me
and help me grab my stuff.
And I be like, I'm hearing this too often,
which lets me know y'all,
y'all bitches up at the top, been on some weird shit.
Because I, like, especially since the TV show,
I've been around bigger people,
and I promise the God, it's like they keep saying the same shit to me.
And I'm like, the easiest thing I could do
was pull up and be nice and grab the door for you.
And be like, oh, sis, don't forget your charger here,
I got your charge.
They'd be like, thank you.
why are you so nice?
I'm like, is that nice?
Yeah.
Because I could be a real bitch too.
I'm just being,
I thought I was just being a human being kind.
The more money that I'm obtaining,
I'm being around other type of people,
and I'm realizing like these people with money
aren't exactly who I want to be with the money.
Yeah, they're fake.
I don't want to be them.
Yeah.
So I'm trying to keep the, I'm just trying to stay me.
I'm trying to stay Amy.
I'm just like, you know what I mean?
You listen, right?
So speak on that mansion, right?
Because, okay, so look, so when I was watching that video, right,
you sign in, and Mazzi, like, this, right?
Yeah.
Now, so the first one, though, man, was it ever a thought to put him on the deed, right?
Yeah.
Right, yeah.
Yeah, right, yeah.
So why wasn't he on the deed of the crib?
Um, he was not on the deed of the crib because, one, it was not my husband.
That's the first thing.
And for two, I paid for the house.
Damn.
Wait, wait, though.
So how did that conversation go?
Like, you say, Bay, I'm trying to buy us a mansion.
And he'd say, yo, listen, I got half on it, got 10% on it.
Like, how did that conversation go?
He felt like we should have lived in the condo for another year.
We had a beautiful condo overlooking the city.
Yeah.
We were there for three years.
he was like, I think one more year.
One more year, Lou.
And I was like, no.
Yeah.
No.
At that point, I had another product and we had boxes.
And then we had our store, our Black Love merch store,
and everything was stocked up in this two-bedroom condo.
And although it was beautiful, if you start getting into it, you'd be like, damn.
It was like, it was my hair.
It was his merch.
Then I had merch.
And then I had, it was a lot.
And I was like, no, this year is the year.
Yeah.
We get in the house this year.
he's like, okay, I guess we're getting his house.
And so the thing about it is when I bought the house,
I know my man income.
I know what my man got going on.
He knows my income.
I didn't buy the mansion to say like,
this nigga's supposed to be giving me half of the mansion.
I was blessed to make the money.
I'm ready to get out of this fucking condo.
I felt like as a woman, if I have the money,
I didn't want to be in a situation to be like,
but let me wait until he catches up
because I'm not with you to catch up with me.
What if he didn't catch up for six years?
to my income.
Am I supposed to stay in a condo for six more years?
No.
I made the money.
I held it.
I saved it up for two years.
I retired my mom first.
That was my goal.
So my mom quit your job today.
Handled her.
She's good for years out.
And then I said in the next year, I'm buying me a house.
When I retire her out, I bought my fucking house.
Whether he was there with me or not, I was getting my house.
That was my goal after making sure my mom was good.
So a lot of people are like,
I wouldn't have got the house yet because he couldn't.
I didn't say I was getting the house just for him.
Obviously, I would love to say I'm going to be with him forever,
but you never know.
And I got nieces.
I want to have kids at some point.
I got seven nieces and a nephew.
I got a mom.
I got four siblings.
I want them in his house with a pool and the theater,
and they deserve it.
And I've, auntie has earned it.
And I never looked at that mansion.
It was like thinking about him for everything.
I worked for it.
I saved it.
I want this fucking house.
So him not signing anything for the house.
A lot of people were like, that was awkward.
Like, he wasn't signing nothing.
Like, it was a real, like, awkward video, right?
Because, like, maybe it's because, like, we, like, have this, like,
warped view of what, like, the gender role should be.
Yeah.
So when I see, in his hands, full, like a motherfucker, man, right?
And you sign this idea, right?
But I, right?
So, well, here, right, so do you consider yourself a sugar mama?
No.
Would you ever be a sugar mama?
I would never be a sugar mama.
But hold on.
Never say never, but I wouldn't be.
But in a situation with my ex,
because I know people try to clown him and categorize him,
not seeing you.
Of course.
But we were like a really big couple.
People tried to minimize him.
When I met Mazzie, I lived in a project-ass town home
and he had his own house.
He had a house.
I was in a time home.
And he worked his job, forklifting, decent, hourly pay.
Oh, shit.
I was doing hair.
where if I didn't have a client that day,
a bitch was broke that day.
So when I met him and we were both in a situation like,
oh, you rap, I'm from Detroit, I just got here.
Oh, you from, you just came here from Texas?
Oh, I'm Amy, I'm Mazzie.
Oh, we both kind of struggling, but we got big goals.
God just blessed me to come into the money with my businesses first.
So people try to minimize him
when they saw me buying all the dream cars and we're like,
oh, he can't buy this for her.
He's nothing.
He's a nothing-ass nigger.
Or are you a sugar mama?
and it's like, bitches ain't never had a situation where you came up with somebody.
Yeah, of course.
So if your mindset and your window, if your thoughts is small,
you would see a bitch like me driving this car, this foreign car,
and see my ex still out trapping his t-shirts and be like, oh, he's down here.
My view was never that.
It was like, I'm hoping he hustled it up where he can get to experience this type of financial freedom.
And I'm the woman on the side.
I'm helping.
I'm the fiance.
You think if I make fucking $10,000 a day
that I'm not going to put in on my nigger merch
You got me fucked up
Yo, that's rare, bro
That's crazy though
No, listen, listen,
Hose is not building no nigga up
That's crazy
That's rare
That's crazy
Where did that come from though?
It's just a good heart
Like, you can't come into a financial freedom
Like, key point
When I made my first million dollars
I didn't go buy jewelry with it
I didn't go buy the house yet
I didn't buy, I had three cars at one point
I'm down to two
I went and took care of my mom first.
Her first.
So that's just my personality anyway.
It's just naturally me to be like,
I prioritize shit like five years out.
Her, me, and him.
Her, me, him.
Yes, he was included.
It wasn't like, oh, you're taking care of him, no, bitch.
I've made it.
I got the money now.
You crazy as hell.
This is a person who was with me when I had nothing.
I beat him in the race.
I won it to the money first.
I'm going to reach back.
Mama, sisters, brother, nieces, fiancé, here, come on up.
Anybody who doesn't think that way, you probably wouldn't even get a bitch like me number one.
That's the first part.
And we probably wouldn't even be friends because you've got to, you make a million dollars.
I would hope you would turn back and be like, hey, you remember how you was right there in the dark with the lights off?
Because he was there, I got you.
Lights off?
Oh, man.
For sure.
Damn.
Asked my mama for money.
Really?
really thugging it.
We got videos on Facebook really thugging it.
Oh, listen, shit people missed, a lot of shit.
Listen, after hearing that, bro,
y'all got to get back together, man.
See, I knew that was next.
I knew that was next.
Y'all was thugging with the lights off,
and y'all became, come on now, bro.
For sure.
Listen, he can't lose you when you, like,
at your peak right now, man.
Like, you lit.
This is my, no, it's,
He lost me last year when I broke up with him on an intimate level.
Of course.
But I've always had hopes that from the things we've been through,
like, that we could somebody get back in the space of being like, cool.
I don't let people talk bad about Mazzi in front of me.
No, period.
It's not happening.
Like, I know we, everybody, we have the conversations
because I've had to go in on him on social media.
But people saw what they saw, but you can only see so much in like a 60-second Instagram video
or a 10-minute YouTube video.
but we definitely been through some trying times.
So for us to be able to be friends again right now,
I'm excited.
Yeah, man.
Nigger was blocked for like eight months of last year.
So we're trying to get right in a good spot.
We never know what the future holds.
Hair, right?
So now look at this though, right?
So now you are boss, you know, a boss, a rapper, a record label owner, right?
A influencer.
Now, in around 2020, 2020, 2021, right?
which a male audience was expecting for Amy
to drop the only fans to fuck up the streets.
Right.
Right.
One, why didn't you go down the route of dropping,
you know, the explicit only fans and, you know, again,
you could have made, I'm talking about, like,
you could have made.
A lot.
Ams and like two months off that shit, right?
So why did it and Amy, you know,
go down that route and bless the streets?
I have faith in myself, the bag on come.
I attract things.
I track good people.
I'm a money attractor because that's my brain works.
I think things like that.
So I don't have to do that at all.
I've walked away from a situation where I probably would have made more money up front off that deal than only fans.
And I walked away from that because dude was weird.
And I didn't want to be tied down to weirdness where it's like I can't even, I've already started
this with you.
So the only fan situation was never going to happen for me.
I made more money selling here out my trunk.
Yeah.
Then I slept good at night than having to be like, oh, everybody else is kind of like.
You could have, listen, you could have did like, like, um, like just like lingerie pictures.
No.
And it would have still, listen.
I got lingerie pictures.
Yeah.
Some very nice handsome men around the world have them in their phones.
Yeah.
But not the Internet.
For what?
Just for what, though?
If you think about it like, how much money do you want?
You can have enough and it's coming in other ways.
Or do you like every new thing that's hot is making girls rich jump on every fucking new thing?
I was so straight on that.
And as a matter of fact, Johnny Blaze, which is a good friend of mine.
Yeah.
She was making so much money.
Of course.
I was in a promo group with her where twice a week we were all exchange promo.
We were getting each other to the finish line.
We all had like the $300,000 following gold and $500,000.
We did this thing.
It's like we was running it up with each other.
Oh, wow.
And the person was managing her, excuse me, reached out to me and was like,
I'm looking at the checks these bitches was making.
I was just like, but if I do that, why would I go do this?
If I do that, why would I go dance?
Yes, of course.
Why I'm not going to dance?
Why would I not go fuck with this nigga for the money?
I'm not going to do that.
Why would I not go fuck with this label owner for the money?
Of course.
It opens the door for doing whatever it takes for the money.
So you got to stand on some shit.
Of course.
And if you got enough faith and say, I'm willing to actually lose this little two million.
Yeah.
Because the universe is going to give me phone.
Think it.
But here, right, so look, right?
So, but again, like, do me personally thinking, right, that it would have been more than two mills, right?
Here's why, right?
With Johnny and Black China, right?
Yeah.
Like, we already seen everything, right?
Right.
And they still made like an M of that OlliFans shit.
Yeah.
If Amy would have dropped an O'LeyFans
when it was at the peak?
Listen, like, Bad Baby did what?
Like, she did about, like, what?
A Mill her first day, and she made about like $52 million.
Oh, yeah.
In one year, he would have made at least 10 M's.
I'm going to make a billion.
off this rap shit, man
without ever doing only fans
and that's gonna feel so fucking good
when you were at the end of the table with the gang
and I'm toast and I'm like, friend
I'd have made a billion off my products
and we're gonna talk about the only fans thing
and you're gonna be like, bitch you shouldn't have did it.
Yeah, yo, right, listen right?
And it got a lot
and like it must feel good knowing
yo listen
I never fuck no nigga for no look of opportunity
I ain't ever
So pussy
I ain't ever
You feel me
Like you know
Dance
Porning the talk
shit on my soul
I got the bag
Just off of
My brains
My talent
You know
You know
And my name is smut free
Right
My name is smut free
And I'm trying to keep it that way
Facts right
I'm trying to keep it that way
Yeah
Now listen
Last question
Who's your
Mount Rushmore
A female hip hop
Of all time
I'm talking about
DeLoren Hills
The Missy Elliott's
You just named, that's so crazy
Four slots
Four slots
Well you just named my top two
Oh okay top two okay
I saw Lauren Hill last year
I was like right close to her like here
Oh that's dope
I was sitting there like a bitch
I had tears coming down
I just felt like
God's win was just in front of me
Yeah
I love Lauren
You said Missy L is my favorite
Oh wow okay
That's so weird
Missy is first
Lauren Hill will be second
I would say
Little Kim will be third
Okay
It's always been hard
Even Foxy
been tied to me
And I don't want to give them
Fourth and Fifth
Because I viewed them like the same
So I can't even put them on a list
Because that is hard for me
Missy Lauren
Kim
I would have to just go ahead
And give Eve number four
When I saw Eve rap
I was like I'm Eve
Yeah
She can rap rap
I love her
I love the person
I loved everything about Eve
So I can give Eve number four
and number five
What female was I just listening to
That was like
Do I got to make it old school
Or just like some new shit?
No, of all time
Of all time
Yeah
So new school, old school
You know, of all time
I don't got a five
Because they are five to me
Hey five
Is Amy right
Amy is one
So one
Yeah right
I'm picking me first
Nick
I'm number one
Eve is five
then. Eve could be five.
So let's do it again. Yeah.
Amy Missy. Yeah.
Lauren Hill,
Lil Kim. And Eve.
And Eve. Yeah, there you go, man. Now,
all right, man. So, like, what's next?
Where can they find you?
Well, I'm pregnant right now, so.
You're pregnant? No, I'm not. I'm joking.
But I'm about to say,
yo, who's the daddy, man?
No, what's next is
gearing up to drop an EP called Amy's World.
It's going to be a few songs, but it's going to be raw shit, though.
Who's on it?
Amy, because it's my world.
Wait, so like, it is just, you know, features?
It's going to be five, six songs.
Okay.
And it's just like the reintroduction.
I dropped bag lady, and I gave straight bars.
I did it.
You were talking that shit, though.
It was purposeful.
Yeah.
And so the next record's going to be barful, but it's going to be also some vibe.
It's going to be different.
So I'm giving the moods of Amy for about five, six records.
So we're working on Amy's world.
we are working on right now getting the videos for it.
Just packaging that project, of course.
After this, after this drops,
feature is about to go crazy.
No, bro, it's not going to go up.
Yeah, it's about to go up.
And so I'm already prepared for that.
You know, the TV show,
just really where can my move on the TV show?
I just relaunched my product, Pretty Kitty.
It's doing really good.
I'm excited.
Wait, what?
It's called Pretty Kitty.
It's called My Pretty Kitty.
It's a three-step product that I created.
for the bikini area.
Ah.
It clears up, you know.
Like the hair lines.
All of that.
Y'all know y'all nigs be stressing us sometimes.
Yeah.
PHB off.
Y'all just fucking us out sometimes.
And we fuck ourselves up, but y'all help.
So I created a product because I got a bunch of sisters
and I know how important it is to feel good about your skin.
Right?
And that area is important.
So the product predicated, we relaunched it a few months ago.
It's doing really good.
Okay.
working on getting a store,
a pretty kitty in Atlanta.
It's going to be a wax bar
where you can get all type of things for the vagina.
My team is working.
Let me just say it.
Yo, speaking of the wax bars.
Now, tell me if this is a myth or not, right?
Mm-hmm.
I heard that chick be like having, like, real life and orgasms
when they go to the wax lady
and she's playing with the clit.
She's, you know.
Is that true?
Well, that's strange.
I don't know.
I've had one wax in my life.
Ah.
And I was just hoping that I didn't come off of that lady who was waxing me,
because that would be weird.
Yeah.
But I have heard her girl say, like, it feels so good when they do it to me.
But I've heard, like, on her butt hole would feel good.
Like, when they wax and bleach it, she's like, it feel good to her.
I got one wax before.
Yeah.
And it was only because I'm, like, I have to experience it one time.
Yeah.
I'm...
You good.
I like my maintenance days.
I like the day where I'm, like,
like washing hair, arching eyebrows, shaving and just shaving.
That's my day in the tub.
I don't like, I didn't like the waxing.
I don't like the.
It's violent, bro.
I just didn't like it.
Pound.
Yeah, I didn't like it.
And with me having a very pretty kitty area, I just felt like I wanted to stay real.
I just told people, like, when they see my bikini area, when I post things, they're like,
bitch, you have to wax.
There's no way you shave and your bikini line looks at.
pretty.
So I'm standing behind my product.
It's a pretty kitty.
Pretty kitty.
So a lot of girls say you cannot shave.
For black women, a lot of times if you shave certain areas, it gets really bad.
And I have a product that I really spent seven months curating with someone, and I stand behind it.
And so I proved to people like, I got one wax.
I filmed it.
I showed it on YouTube.
Like, this is my bikini line without waxing.
So fucking buy.
Pretty kitty, man.
Yeah, man.
Yo, so you got that.
Now, the vendor list is still out there, right?
Still going.
Where can they find that at?
Buy the vendor on Instagram.
Actually, my website is called The Vendor Bible.
We'll have that finish.
Shout out to Kayla.
She just did my personal website, my product website,
and we're about to do the vendor Bible, relaunch, reloaded.
And I still do my vendor business.
It's ran off of my Instagram.
My sister runs that for me.
So do they get, here, right, when they buy the vendor buy,
what do they get?
You get a digital list of all the products.
So I have a list for nail text where you can get all the materials for nails.
If you want to get nail art, nail jewels, everything gets wholesale.
So a lot of the time, especially in Atlanta, you'll go to somebody and they'll say like,
oh, I see you make T-shirts.
You should buy my connect.
They're not giving you the person that's the first person.
They give you another middleman.
So although you're saving more than you would have been with that person,
you're still middlemaning it.
Well, my list, you're going straight to the person.
Like, the hair that's in my head, the nails this on me, the rings.
You're not talking to Amy's team no more.
And I'm getting like $20 off the 100.
No, you're going directly to the store.
So that's what has made my list be so different.
That's why I've had so many big people, middle, small, buy the list.
I've been selling the vendor Bible for about four years.
A lot of people copied the ideas, started selling lists.
most of them aren't around anymore.
So I'm still with my vendors
and I make them a lot of money
and I also help a lot of black women start businesses
without having to pretty much get fucked out of their money
by going to the middleman.
Because that's just what they, that's what they're doing.
You go into the middleman and you're thinking you get in a wholesale situation.
How do you protect yourself, though,
for somebody like, let's say, buying your vendor list,
copy and pasting their shit.
Well, with my vendor list, you're not going to get the rate
in the price that I've gotten.
I've worked my way up.
So whereas a person might come to my vendor
and this girl's selling her hair $100 a bundle,
you'll get it from my vendor for about $45.
But you've got to know coming through me,
you're getting it for $35.
Because I've been there seven years with her.
So you don't want to go and be sillying,
oh, he's going to put you on.
Because when you go to the vendor,
oh, yeah, you're getting wholesale.
But I got a cold and everything.
Oh, my shit runs tight.
Now, baby, I can get successful being dumb.
See?
Listen, listen.
I ain't do this overnight.
Listen, but that's why, brother,
Listen, bro, that's, listen, yo, like,
if you are a famous rapper out there, bro,
you're got to get a girl like, hey, bro.
You feel me, man?
Right?
Because, because, because, like,
because, listen, because, like,
these rappers is losing money.
Yeah, I don't want more rappers.
No?
Name something else.
I, uh...
A heart surgeon.
Yeah.
A fucking...
Elon Musk.
Yo, boy, yo, he...
Yo, he loves black chicks, though.
But I don't want to use that man like that.
Why don't?
He's handsome, right?
Use him on the.
Damn, man.
My taste's a little different.
No, no more rappers.
No, okay, no more rappers.
No, okay, no more rappers.
No, no athletes.
No, come on, Amy.
You know, you got to date.
I've done that.
No.
Let's say this.
Exx, that type.
If, if, uh, who's a, oh.
100,000.
John Moran.
Who?
John Moran.
No.
Damn, man.
And he's such a little.
cute but no.
And he just signed a $230 million dollar deal, man?
No.
Damn.
Well, and listen, man.
Well, hey.
It wouldn't even work.
Why don't?
No.
Now, could you say Andre 3000?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Wait, why Andre, though?
Like, like, uh...
Because I love him.
And he's like 50, though.
And you're like, what, 26?
Love him.
Yeah.
He's my...
That's so weird because I love Eric Badoo.
Andre's my husband and my brain.
Yeah.
I love every fucking thing about him.
The mystery.
The mystery.
not so into the viral energy.
Yeah.
I can't be the person
going viral and doing this.
I don't want a person on that same thing.
Is that crazy?
What,
what now,
because you wouldn't,
Andre, though,
is also a star too.
So, right?
Like, listen,
if you, like, don't want nobody,
like, who's not famous,
listen,
get,
like, get yourself a broke street nigga, man.
Broke street nigga.
How would that benefit me?
Huh?
How would it benefit me?
Shit.
Wouldn't that be stressful?
you walking me into a fucking stressful life?
Nah, right?
Now, listen.
And he can sit home, chill,
you take him and out the streets
and, like, his job right now,
it's the, you know,
it is to like, you know, to like chill home,
you know, lick some coochie, right?
Have the gun on him to, you know, to, you know,
to, you know, protect the home, right?
Yeah.
Listen, so he's chilling, he's, like, sucking some coochie.
He's protecting the home.
Carrying the strap.
He's calling.
Asking for the money, my money.
Yeah, right.
That's not a win-win situation, friend.
That is a fucking lose-lose situation.
No, I would say this.
The dating Amy won.
I don't even want a day right now.
I'm kind of enjoying just freedom.
Yeah, just telling us.
Six years for me.
I'm enjoying it.
Yeah.
I'm finding out new stuff.
I get to move different.
But I have also learned that I think I want to experience something different next round.
Yeah.
Oh, wait, right?
So there's this girl called Ruby Rose, right?
and who just went viral.
Yeah.
For saying she likes men who she knows don't like her.
And if she starts to, like, talk to a guy and he, let's say, is ignore her, she loves him.
But then as soon as he starts liking her, she loses interest.
Now, why are females like that, man?
Yeah, because I'm somewhat like that a little bit.
Why?
I'm going to say something about saying some.
I had this crush on this guy who's really big in the industry.
and he seemed obtainable to me
like unobtainable.
Yeah.
And, because I didn't say obtainable,
he seemed like he would be hard to get.
And one day I was out and I got him.
Mm-hmm.
But when I got him,
it wasn't the challenge that I felt like I deserved.
I felt like, dang, I wanted you for a while.
Yeah.
And it was so easy to get you.
Because you're Amy, though, right?
Yeah, but it's still, we love
a challenge. I love a challenge.
You're a date of the Gemini?
My girl was born October 6th.
What's that?
That would be a Libra, I think.
Oh, okay. What is it? I don't know.
Libra. So, we love the crazy shit.
But it's like, I love crazy, but don't get me too much crazy, but don't be too nice to me,
but don't be too crazy and kill me, but scare me a little bit.
That's me. So when I got this person, I was so shocked how
easy it was
I was shocked more
how available he was
of course
I didn't like it
there's no
listen look there's no guy
right again I'll say this
there's no rapper out right now
or guy or famous guy right
who you is kind of say
hey listen
I want you
I need you
they turn it down
like there's
this is true
but it's not so many that I like
and the few that I like
is like three
three four
yeah
Andre
Diddy
or no?
I used to have a crush on Diddy.
Yeah, right?
Now I like crush.
I want to see him and Carisha has sex now.
I don't want him no more.
I used to have a crush on him,
but now I want to see them fuck.
My crush went away for some reason.
Damn.
Yeah, so Diddy, I feel like you like older guys, though.
So probably be Andre, be Diddy.
No, oh, like Jay Cole's the family man
and who's single right now.
So you will...
I thought Jay Cole was married.
I think Kendrick's married.
Okay.
neither one of them
I like
Who's your yeah
Who is your you know
Industry crushes
My crushes
My crushes are
Andre 3,000
Pluto
Really?
Yeah
For some reason
I can't see it man
Like because he has
You know
He's moving and shaking with like
20 women
Like you want him to be like monogamous though
No I have some phone with him
I'd be number 21 on the fun tip
He might be number six
And we might work out together
But yeah I just like it weird
I like okay I'm gonna tell you
It's only three of them
Okay so Pluto
It's four
One of them is taken
It's not even serious
But I like Andre 300
I got a crush on Pluto
Yeah
I have a crush on the game
I'm in LA you know
Listen
I have WAC 100 number, that's my boy, right?
And he know him?
Yeah, of course.
Like, hook me up with your friend who can hook him on his friend.
Oh, yeah.
Here, right.
Here, right.
So Wack is games, like, manager for like 25 years now.
So, like, he's...
I just learned that.
Yeah, listen, I got you.
Put me on now.
Yeah, of course.
Listen, I got you 100%.
For just a weekend on.
Yeah, of course.
And he's single, too, so...
Oh, he's single?
Yeah.
All right, so the game...
Wait, the game plued up.
Andre and then who's the last one?
He's in a relationship.
Okay.
So I don't want him at all
but I got my motherfucking crush
and who's gonna check me by you?
Yeah, of course.
I think Cam Newton is just everything.
Oh, Cam?
Yes, Kim.
Yo, I don't...
I love it.
You're too smart though.
Yeah, but I could be dumb sometimes.
Like Kim, like...
Don't put me too wide up.
Like, I'm like, hey.
Yeah.
Not like Kim is like an athlete.
Again, I love Cam, right?
Yeah.
Even when I see his podcast, you know, he don't come off as like the brightest bulb in the room, right?
He's so bright to me because he looks so delicious.
Shout to him's girlfriend.
She got her one.
Yeah.
Because I wanted him.
I had a real crush on him.
But shout out to him.
They look cute.
But yeah, Cam Newton, I think it's just physically for me.
Yeah.
How he dresses the mystery behind the fashion.
Andre is the mystery behind the fashion.
The game is just...
He's 6'6.
He likes him with pretty eyes.
Pause.
I just like him rough around the edge.
It's either for me, let me tell you, it's going to be gangster
or it's going to be mystery nerd.
Like, Amy, what are you doing with him?
I'm one of the other.
So you can see me with a game.
And I will be out there on my ghetto-ass shit
with my 40-nigger, what's up?
And then you will see me with Andre,
and I'll be tea time with a book.
I can do both of them.
Yeah, man, from cold-switching.
So, yeah, them is my four crushes.
But that's five, I said four.
Those are my men's minus
Cam, because he's taking.
Those are my menzest.
No, but, but, like, during the interview
with, like, Brittany Renner,
like, Cam was talking about how, like, his
girl, like, lets him, you know,
like, he, right, like, he's not, like,
tied down.
Oh, he can have fun?
Yeah, he's not, like, tied down to, like, you know.
I don't want that.
No?
No.
Well, it sounds, like, easy until you get with me
and it'd be like, he's mine now.
And it's like, nah, we ain't going to share.
You could just have.
Walk, hey, Cam, listen, Cam, I know that family is cool, man, but
family life is good, you know me.
Family life is a good life.
Yeah, if I'm cut it off, man.
I don't want to take nobody.
I want it to just come and land in my lap and land there.
Man.
You know.
Definitely, man.
Yo, wait, do we miss something?
Or no.
Do we talk about everything like, in terms of like, you know, like the music,
everything is good, right?
I mean, hey, folks, listen, man, Amy, I appreciate you for comment.
Thank you for having me.
It was a great interview, what, like about what, our?
And what?
Two.
Damn, yeah, man.
This was good.
It was pointless.
You see, listen, I just love to talk to dope people, man.
Thank you, Frank.
Man, people, no jumper coolest podcast, been tapping to Amy, man.
I'm looking at all the cameras.
Made it.
