No Jumper - An Interview with a Bum

Episode Date: September 9, 2025

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No Jumper. Coolest podcasts in the world. How do you want to be referred to on this episode? Oh, shit. Well, it depends how you think they don't know me. They'll respond to me. I go by IG Bum. I got to, I do like IG Bum.

I G. Bum? Yeah. Yeah. You know, because sometimes saying Bump makes people feel like, yeah. Yeah. But if you say IG Bum. But do you resent Bum as Bum problematic?

They're like unhaused. now. Yeah, there's a lot of different transfer now, but I answer the bum. Okay. Yeah. I mean, all right.

So you guys PC everything now. I know. What is like Latin X? Michael, you're Latinx. Sorry. He didn't even know. But, okay, so should we go from the beginning?

Like, do you remember your childhood? Oh, shit. What about that? That's, uh, yeah, my childhood was, Yeah, not your prototypical. And I was born another country.

What country? Panama. Panama, okay. Yes, yes. And do you just... What country, man? It's like Africa, but we speak Spanish. I always knew a dude from Panama who would, like, adamantly defend not being black.

He'd say, I'm Panamanian. But, I mean, he looked 100% black. And it was always kind of, like, weird where I was like... Yeah, yeah. But that happens when you first get here and they're like, yeah, no. But after you get hammered down with black, you're just like, all right. Let it go. And let it go.

I got you. Shout on Elsa. But, okay, so what age do you leave Panama? 12 years old, 13. Why'd you leave? My mother. A mother came to America. They did the old, I'm going to make it.

And so I stayed with my grandmother back for like seven, eight years. Okay. Yeah. So they were going to make it as. just in America doing anything? No specific plans? No, no, I just, my mother snuck in the country. Oh, really?

Yeah. From over the border down south? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Really? She was the first black Mexican to, like, well, she's not Mexican, but she escaped like a Mexican. Really? Wow, that's sick.

She came in, so. And you guys posted up in what city and state? Brooklyn, New York. Brooklyn, Brooklyn. How did you end up making your way all the way out there? It's pretty far. It could have posted up in Texas or... Oh.

No, but she just kept because my grandmother was the first one to come here. Oh, okay. And then like. Oh, that's what they met up? Yeah. So you, what was it like being like, you know, a kid who's 12, 13 years old? You're freshly in Brooklyn from fucking Panama. Like the biggest city in the world.

It was been crazy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was crazy. You know, they know the language. Just having to, yeah, deal with winter, you know, just. Right. It's cold of shit. Yeah.

that was smoke coming out of my mouth still was mind-blowing because you know never experienced it and snow like whoa were you like the weird thorn kid when you first showed up like you didn't know how to dress you didn't know how to act everybody looking at you like this guy's weird as fuck

tripping me in class really yeah yeah yeah I got my few bullies here and that you'd think that like New York is so diverse that it would be very accepting but definitely that was my experience because I was hanging out with all these younger dudes riding BMX throughout my 20s and stuff, and I would just get that vibe that, like, if you were from another country fresh over here,

that you were going to get ridiculed pretty hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because, you know, New York, there was, like, all these races and, you know, like, you try to fit in. You know, I was the point. One point it was Dominican, then Puerto Rican and then Jamaica and. What, like everybody thought you were those races? Yeah, yeah, because you just, everybody's mixed up there. You go to one bodega before you know, you're coming out Dominican.

You got one, you know, so it's just, and it's like for years, you know. You just, you know, a comedian, I guess. You're just like, oh. So you graduated high school? I did. And what did you do after that? During the military, believe it or not. Really?

Well, I had kids, then, you know, a few kids. You already had kids. Yeah, right after high, right at high school. Like, my graduation. So despite being fresh off the boat, he was clapping cheeks even in high school. I mean, you know, it was a, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, enough to have one or more kids. Your boys can swim.

One, one kid, one kid, okay. I love you, Jonathan. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Who's the lucky woman? It was a Puerto Rican chick, Elizabeth. You still talk to her? Yeah.

great? It's not great. It's not great, but we talk. Okay. We're civil. How old's the son now? Huh? Oh, he's in his 30s. Oh, man, that's crazy. It's an old guy. Fully grown man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He has kids. Oh, my God. That's outrageous.

Time flies. Holy shit. Okay, so, but you had to join the military because you wanted to provide for the family and stuff. Oh. But were you with the woman for a sustained period of time or not really? I was. I was. I was hung in nine years. Nine years. whole shit. So even while you're in the military, you're still. Yeah, you're getting letters from her.

She was the official, you know. Yeah, because I thought I had a plan. Like, yeah, the family, get back and GI Bill and the whole shebang. And yeah. How come you didn't have another kid? I did with her? With her, did you just realize like this is a bad idea? I got to stop reproducing.

I got to pull out. No. I messed up again. One more time. With her. With her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I hung in there for two kids. Wow.

And then then we realized, like, we're not too good at this dad stuff. Oh, really? You didn't think you were a good dad? Yeah, no. Well, you go join the military. I mean, you're kind of away from the family for a huge amount. Like, how many years were you in the military? Not long at all. Oh, really? Yeah, it wasn't long. I had to get out of there. You went AWOL?

No, no, no, no. No, no. I just tried to like commit suicide. side and to get out. Wait, that was your big plan? You didn't want to kill yourself? You wanted to just get out so you figured I'm going to pretend? Or you really did it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no.

I drank like seven Advils just to kind of, like, all right, guys, I'm serious. I want to leave here. Seven Advils will do it. I feel like you would need to do way, like, if you're going to do Advil. I mean, I didn't know. You're talking about a 19-year-old kid. Right. I just want to go back to Brooklyn.

I feel like there's been days where I took seven Advil just because I had a head. Or at least like maybe throughout the day, like actually. Okay. So you just want to go back to Brooklyn at that point. Yeah, yeah. Back in the 90s, I thought it was more lethal than that. What did you want to do in Brooklyn in the 90s? You're like into hip hop, hustling?

What was drawing you back? Yeah, the life. The life of like, you know, what the girls are at? You know, party hearty. New York was intoxicating. It was addictive. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, compared to, like, the life that I was leading.

And then in the military, I was a cook. I didn't want to be a cook. So I was like a major, like, oh, that's what you guys talked me into? Oh, cook. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't want to be a cook. It was better than being a sniper, right? Well, yeah, yeah. I mean, that's exciting in its own way.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, you know, you know, looking at it now, I wish I would have, yeah, I would have won the sniper route. So you didn't kill anybody in the military? No. No. Oh. Vlad's always interviewing some dude who's got like 100 plus kills. And he seems super fried.

Yeah. I was in the kitchen when they were killing. Yeah. Yeah. So that's kind of tight. Yeah. Yeah. I fed him.

I fed him. And they, you know, they shot him. I mean, you'd probably be a way different dude right now if you had 100 bodies. Yeah. I think so.

Like, I would like to think that I'm the kind of person who could catch 100 bodies in the military and just be chilling. Yeah. But historically, it seems like people get pretty fucked up from that. No, no, no, no. I currently live in a military shelter. Like, you know, they're getting me a place where, you know. Really?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I get to see, like, the effects of, like, you know, these dudes going through it in wars and, you know. Yeah, I just can't, you know, they're like, yeah, yeah. I know gangbangers are kind of like that. Yeah, yeah. You know what Crip mac is? It gives you PTSD. Yeah.

Hmm? You know Crip Mac? No. West Coast. Yeah, he's like schizophrenic. He's got a little bit of that, but I think it's all natural. Oh,

okay. Wow. Yeah, I know. It's a real thing, the PTSD that some of these guys have. Yeah. It was a rough fourth of July because it was like,

you know, firecrackers and things like that. Oh, that freaks you out. That, no, me in particular, like a group,

you have a few that I'm sweating at night and. My dogs are like that too. Yeah. Well, fireworks freak them out. Yeah. I thought they had PTSD. I'm like,

no, nobody's that I know. Nobody. But maybe, you know. It's like, we don't really. Yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah. We didn't screen them for that. So, okay, you were in the military for what, year or two?

Yeah, yeah, and then back to Brooklyn. And then back to Brooklyn to, you know, reset life and go back to jobs.

No interest and going back to Panama. No, no, no, no. I was committed to, like,

the American life to party in and. It's a good life. life. Yeah. A lot of people want to get out of here. But whenever we start kicking people out, they get pretty mad. They do. They do. What's that all that? Yeah. Yeah. Love it or leave it, baby. Yeah, but you were illegal immigrants. So you know, I mean, they'll worry about it. Oh, yeah, yeah. I have to know, I, you know, I could drink with ice, you know. I'd have a drink, you know.

You'd have a drink for the, they'd think of the mass on. Yeah, yeah. It's tough to have a drink. Yeah. Yeah. We're good. Were you ever involved in crime when you were living in New York? Were you ever getting into any shady business? I mean, the only, the only flaw I have on my record was like, I said when I had those kids and it was like, it was a period where I had no job and it was like, you know, that guy's standing in the stoop just like,

how am I going to feed these kids now? And then, yeah, just not knowing about the crime pretty much. So I just tied along with this guy. Like, hey, I want to make some money with me? Doing what? Ah, the old why. Yeah, pretty much just stealing, just going around stores and... Oh, shoplifting.

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I didn't know he had a drug problem. You know, I didn't have a drug problem. So it just became anything he could get his hands on. It was like, whoa.

Okay, got it. I was like when my criminal life started. Mm, okay. It makes sense. Yeah. Do you, okay, but you never joined a gang? No, no, I never joined a game. That wasn't really that much of a thing in New York at the time.

It was really around me. It was all around you. The Latin Kings were like Bushwick where I was raised was heavy influence, you know? We have a lot of different games like the Decepticons, you know, Voltron. Back in the days when I was at age, where I was like, oh. That's crazy that gangbanging used to be so lighthearted that you could name your hood after like a transformer. Yeah. Because when they come together, they're...

Yeah, but what is that? Now, not so much. Not so much, no. You'd not be taking that serious, but back in the day, you'll fear to hear someone was a, you know, vote from Rortron.

Okay, so you're just kind of living in New York at this time? What are you doing? What are you aspiring for? At this time, just steady jobs to feed the kids, man. Like, you know, I'm family-oriented, you know? So all they want to say,

oh, yeah, okay. and then, you know, got a job with the cable company. And that was kind of like the last hang on to like, yeah, the 9 to 5, here we go. And it was just started doing comedy and then. Oh, okay. So when did the comedy thing start to kick in? Oh, the comedy in 2000 true. It was right, yeah, like right after 9-11, I think.

Okay. Where were you during 9-11? I had the cable job. Okay. The cable job. Just working? Yeah, you're just working. And you just hear an explosion?

Or you just start hearing about it from people? Oh, well, 9-11 happened. I was actually one of the drivers. So I was on way to picking up equipment and I got stuck on the bridge. Going into the city or out? Coming back. I was like running. I was rushing to try to get back to the Bronx and I got stuck on the bridge.

Because of not because like all the traffic just got fucked. Yeah, everything just stopped. Everything. The city just stopped on this track. So it's crazy that we had like Y2K and then 9-11 back to back. Ain't that something? Yeah, I remember Y2K when everything was supposed to end. Yeah.

Yeah. And then right after that, because Y2K was a dud, nothing happened. Nothing happened, no. And then you have 9-11 like a year later. Yeah. And that's actually fucked. Yeah. Why, TK hurt me because, you know, when you be leaving and you spend your money,

like, yeah, fuck, I'm not going to take this with me to spend. Yeah. Because I was the elder gambler at the time. Oh, you were? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. How are you gambling? Dice?

A little dice, heavily, heavily poker. Ooh, underground games in Brooklyn? Yeah, yeah. Her shit, you know. Nice. I'm sure we got hustle, but, you know. Yeah. Who hasn't?

Yeah. Well, that was the poker boom. Yeah. Early 2000s. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Anybody with a house and, you know, drinks and a poker table? Yeah.

There's a lot of money to be made at that time. Um, okay. So you get into comedy, how? Uh, how did I get to come out? A cousin of mine put me to do it. I never knew, you know, because I barely was mastering the English language. So it was like, what? Hmm.

Do what in front of people? But I was always a clown. So, um, doing this wedding for my cousin, I was filming it. And I guess I was high out of my mind. On what? I don't have weed. Oh, just smoking weird. Smoggy Wee, right?

Yeah, it was weak. All right. And everything that I was saying was just hilarious to him to the point that, you know, he was like, you got to do comedy and took me to a show and I've been hooked over since. So you get to work writing jokes and working on a routine at that time? At that time, it was just more natural. It was just kind of character. It's just like, hey, I'm the, you know, the porn star guy.

I would be on stage with a thong. And it was very, yeah, it was very, this guy doesn't know what he's doing, very shocking, but it was like kind of the peak of like. It was that era where that was an era where you could just kind of go on stage and just play a character and just say a bunch of crazy stuff? I mean, I think so. There were a lot of characters that I'd be aware, right? Great.

Because you listen to a joke. I mean to Andy Kaufman. Oh, really? Very weird. Panama's answer to that really are. Right. I mean, now people think are listening, like anyone who's ever listening to Joe Rogan has heard extremely in-depth explanations of what comedy is like. And it's, you're on the road and you spend years working on this set and you film a special or you at least like, you know, put together a routine and they make it sound very, very serious.

And that's kind of different than just getting on stage and just saying, hey. play a character, do a bunch of crazy shit. But, I mean, when you go back, you think about, like, Ace Ventura, you think about Billy Madison, you think about all these movies. It's like, really, these movies would, like, barely have made a blip on our radar if it wasn't for just having a really, really strong lead who played an outrageous character. When you go back and you look at Ace Ventura, it's like, what is this? Like, why did we all believe that this guy was a real detain?

Yeah, and he's just making all these crazy. voices and stuff. Why do we go for this? But he was just really good. Yeah. He pulled it off. That's the day of the game. You pull it off and people want it.

Keep doing it, you know? That's what it was for me. It was just like the response was amazing at the time. It was like, I would do something different every time out. So I didn't have a set. And then, you know, came that time when I, oh, you need a set in this. And I had to work on words. definitely so so you're kind of just freestyling it for a while and then you

yeah yeah i was off the game my first seven shows you know headliners be careful you know because i was i was yeah i was really you know uh-huh didn't know what i was doing it was just the commitment but did you fall into that that you know lifestyle of like really sitting down and writing jokes every day i had to yeah one day i one day i had to like a uh i was in my underwear with a dildo in my pants and boots on. Not in your ass. No, no, no, no. I just in my pants and it was like.

Just look like you had a big old dick. Yeah. Got it. Yeah. And it wasn't funny. Just having the... What, you were getting up on stage with the dildo on your pants? Yeah, yeah.

Like, the street was over. Yeah. Like, where do you take that at a certain point? You can only do so many crazy stuff. Yeah, yeah. So I was just literally on the stage line. what do we knew now? Yeah.

And I had to like, you know, create a set for, okay. Put the dodo away and, um, and so you're just grinding away doing this, because this is about 23 years ago.

Yes. And how long do you do that? And at what point does this get disrupted? It was seven shows in. So I think it was, uh, yeah, it was my first year in.

It was my first year in. Yeah. I, a year, a year I figured it out. Okay. Yeah, like, okay, you can't do that. Okay, I got it. But so then you're just all throughout the early 2000s? You're just like doing this comedy thing.

Yes, yes, committed to the porno star. Yeah, committed to like a he battle character that I used to go on stage. So you never actually done porn? No, no, no, no, no. It was just. I do porn. Really? Which, like, to me is no big deal, but I realized to a lot of people, that would probably be pretty interesting.

Yeah, yeah, wow. So what would you do as the porn guy? Maybe I can tell you what it's really like. Were you a thinner man at this time? I wasn't. Well, I still always had my little boobies, but, you know, I've always had a funny body. Okay. Because porn is kind of the depressing part about being a guy in the porn game.

You kind of got to be in shape. Yeah, yeah. I'm kind of like on the far end of, like, not being in shape. shape for porn. Like, I really need to lose 20, 30 pounds probably. Okay. So I have no chance in the real world of porn. Not really a market for, like, fat male porn stars.

Yeah. All right. Because, like, it's all about having a big dick and being fat. As I'm sure you know, you're kind of making your dick look smaller by getting fat. Can we cut for a second? Yeah. Like, the biggest male porn star in the world, if he gained 100 pounds, like, I feel like it's over.

Yeah. I mean, or at the very least you're going to look like a fucking idiot out there, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess, okay. Yeah, sorry. I know a porn dude who started wearing a shirt during his scenes. Like a 12- Jeremy did that. Did he really?

Yeah, at the end of his- I didn't even know that. Yeah, he was just all penis and shirt. And I never, well, that's, yeah, that was a different time. But I, I, because, like, I know a female porn star who was making fun of this guy for the fact that he started shooting scenes with a shirt on, but then he got on Ozempic and now he's skinny. Oh, really?

So that's over. Wow. There's hope. There is hope for sure. I mean, you could have just died the regular, but, you know. Oh, yeah, yeah. Actually, that's kind of impressive because this guy shoots like every day. He does like a porn every day.

You think that, probably 38, 36, 37, something like that, maybe, for it to guess. Impressive. Yeah, that's good. But, so, okay, that was just one of your main characters. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What I would do, I would just kind of like. hump the floor and just do the snake and you know like yeah yeah yeah it wasn't very thought out you know I didn't have any friends in comedy or it was just kind of hey guys this is funny right

right I'm doing the snake with a thong yeah so throughout this whole time of you doing this comedy pursuit did you have any like high points any like moments that seemed like you were really gaining traction or that things were gonna blow up um in comedy not so much. I've never turned the corner of like doing specials and being past at clubs regularly I've always had to like work for

like I work for a New York comedy club the Broadway you know. So you got sell tickets? I sold tickets you know took care the the trash details that was you know bar back. Right.

You know just the things you do the day at stage time. You ever get frustrated and almost quit? not not not not not quit but just kind of like all right what else we're going to do here yeah you know because yeah there was a time where like one of the owners you know um martin mr martin al martin you know he offered me to become a manager and all of that maybe i guess time you know this will be the state side manager state side yeah but i always still wanted to be that guy like no I could be a name somewhere

And as long as I keep doing it I'll be that headliner guy And you know I hung on to it Like I don't know if it's too long But I still Right Definitely

You're working at the cable company this whole time That was like kind of the last job That I had The last like real job Everything else has been the hustles Just to keep comedy alive Excuse me Just to keep comedy alive

So when do you start When was the first time that you ever played a bum? Oh, that was, well, being that I'm a late bloomer in comedy, when my comedy friends would always do like, when they started doing video, they're like, you play the bum. Yeah. You play the bum. My name is Estabaster the bum.

Maybe estabum. Yeah, yeah. So that's where like the roots of just hearing bum, boom, boom. And then it just. What year was this? My first bum was, well, like I think in 2013. Okay. 2014 with Alice Carabano as a comedian.

And then it took full bloom. The bum, bum, bum came out during the pandemic. When we had the lockdown and then like it was just, I was in, yeah, just shooting stuff from the basement for a year. Okay. And then when I came out, it was just. When you. when social media really started to blow up,

did you kind of realize that this was going to be a big deal right away? No. It took a while? It took a little while. Well, for me, it went really quickly because, I mean, it was just kind of like, oh, man, new people and they love me. And, you know, it was like, yo, jump the train, shit on this bucket, and it was just like coming off from, like, being alone for a year in a basement.

it was like, yeah, whatever, friends. Right. Whatever you guys want me to do. Because I was always the older guys. I was like Sugar Daddy. I was, you know, and then when a struggle became real, then the bum. I mean, I think part of the funny thing about you being able to play the bum character so effectively is just the fact that in the black community, taking care of your hair is very important.

and so you see a black guy and he's got a lot of grays yeah yeah doesn't give a shit about the fact that his hair lines push back and to the people it's very easy to believe that this is an actual bum because it's just not like like okay remember when like when COVID hit and all of a sudden we see Diddy right and he's like unkept he doesn't have his beer died he's got all the gray and it's like we're all looking at him like yo he looks like a crack like what is that Like, what the fuck is that? But it's just a guy who didn't get a haircut and didn't get his beard died.

But, I mean, that's, like, one thing that I always notice because of myself, I get my hair cut like once a month. Oh, God. And even that feels like a lot. Yeah. But I mean, look at you funny. Like, God, geez. Yeah, like, right now I'm kind of woof. You know, I'm kind of not looking at good.

But, like, you know, in the black community, it's like, you got to get a haircut like every week. Yeah, they're going to clown your ass. And I think that's where it started. The bump started from because haircuts in New York City just kept, you know, like, you know, I don't fucking need a haircut. I see people talk about how much they pay for a haircut sometimes, and it's nuts. Especially, like, if they'll come to you. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Easily, like, you can go to a shop now in New York. If you don't have 100 bucks, just come back next week. You know, I feel like when I lived in New York, it was 20 bucks, maybe. Yeah, that 20 years ago. That's a tip now. Yeah. No, literally, yeah. That's crazy.

Yeah. And that is always something I felt is like that that shit holds people back from blossoming as, you know, financially independent people. Like if you're spending 400 bucks a month on haircuts, I mean, what are we talking about? This is just, that's like, you know, a big chunk of your rent. That's like, you know, that's food for. That's how people are food stamps. They're their welfare. They got to like get the haircut money.

Yeah. And that's why, like, there was this rapper T.J.X6 that came out at one point. And he had like, his whole thing was he didn't get a haircut. And he would go like months without getting a haircut. Wow. And it was like kind of jarring. You'd look at him and just be like, you don't seem like a rapper. And then you'd be like, all right.

It's because you don't have a haircut. And that's just part of it. Yeah. Wow. But have you always just like... I'm not the only one. You're not, no, not at all. Have you always just embraced your baldness?

I did. I did. Yeah, I've never been very, yeah, like dressy typey kind of guy. I let my stuff go easily because, you know, once I, like, I was, like, had kids, it was like, fuck, you know. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, I didn't care so much to, like, oh, let me get another woman, so I could, you know, not grow up and have another child. And, yeah, you know. Do you think you're done dating? No, not dating, not dating, no, no. But, you're still interested in women. Very much.

Just not enough to. I see my page. I mean, come on. Yeah, you're out there. But not enough to get a haircut, which is part of getting a woman for a lot of people. And that's not that. It's fucked up, yeah. This is like therapy here.

I'm just trying to figure out. Yeah, yeah. You want that thing, whether you want to keep this thing is like, yeah. Yeah. No, yeah. You wish that you could just be as bummy as possible and the girls would love you for it, but it feels like that's just not usually how it works. Yeah, they use me and I know it.

Okay. But, you know, use me right. Was there a moment throughout these, you know, COVID era where you're doing skits and stuff? Was there any of them that just like really broke out and just like changed the game? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. There was one where the aforementioned shit in the bucket. Yes, that was a huge one. Remind me of exactly how it went.

My little too was very huge. Wait, what? My turn was pretty huge. Oh, but you didn't really shit in the bucket, right? I mean, you know. Oh, my God. Wait, so remind anything. from my new friends we can insert a chunk of it on here probably gonna have to definitely blur

the actual shitting in the bucket this guy's doing bad what's this guy doing he doing hey hey he's shit in your bucket man don't do it again mom oh god he's shit in the bucket mom yeah it comes right Michael Rappaport did the voiceover. Yeah. Was he actually there? No, he just took it and quadriple the viral. Was there any, like, degree of you being, you know, nerd, like, was there any sign that this was going to be a big one?

Because I for sure saw this and thought it was real, and it took me a while to be like, wait a minute. Maybe that's not real. Tony, I'm going to send it to you. Or was that just another day at work and you just happened to hit gold? I just happened to hit gold because it was like new. Yeah. That was like the first like, oh, whoa.

Because like right off the bat, I was getting World Star. Like, oh, shit, they love me as the sugar daddy of these young women. But then the other guys were like, you know, what else you should do? You know, and, you know, once you join a crew, it's just like kind of everyone is just kind of like, do this, do this, do this, jump on the subway, you know? You know? Wait, you joined a crew formally or just sort of people that you just happen to be friends with? Yeah, yeah, because I was like, it was like the new influence I was with.

They had so many followers. I was like just, yeah, I was just the comedian. Yeah. So like the combination was great. And shit in the bucket is the first one. I'm like, woo. Like, we know who you are. Yeah.

But it's got to be kind of weird because it's like on one hand, you're getting significantly more exposure and more fame. Yeah. But then on the other hand, you're getting fans. for pretending to be homeless and shitting in a bucket. Yeah. Which has got to be kind of weird because, like, probably a lot of people can't really tell the difference between me. Like, if I was your neighbor and I saw that, I might think, like, oh, this motherfucker

really be doing crack and getting on the train and shitting in a bucket. You know, not everybody's going to, like, figure it out and ask and everything. You probably don't get girls. Like, if you go viral for, like, being funny, you probably get girls for that. If you go viral for shit in a bucket, probably, like, not really. No, no, no, no. There was definitely, you know, sex appeal to it. It was just straight up.

It just shocked the world and just, yeah, it went everywhere. And, yeah, and at that time, during the pandemic, when everything just, everybody kind of lost their mind a little bit. It was, it was, it was very real to people, the people over there. And, yeah, because I didn't know the people out behind me or anything. I was just like, oh, the trade is coming. Let's go. I think I remember a lot of people

like conservative accounts using that clip as proof of like look how fucked up New York is and look how fucked up black people are which is kind of a shame that everything gets utilized like that It was the whole shabang It was everything

It was in there It was just Yeah yeah I was blamed for a lot of America's Problems during that time Which is a shame Fox They were using it on

Yeah. So media from Asia. Because really, I felt bad. The acts of one solitary black bum does not really say anything about every other black person in America. Let's be real. It should. Nearly all of them were unaware that this was happening.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, okay. So did that change anything for you? Like, all of a sudden, find a way to like, because it's going super viral, but it's not like you're tagged in the shit, you know? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yes. That's the machine. The machine lets you, like, get the fame. But, like, oh. You want to get tagged? Especially when it's like you're not supposed to even be.

Exactly. Anyone. You're supposed to be a random bum. Right. Nobody wants to tag you. Nobody thinks you have an Instagram. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why I have humble followers because it's like, to tag me is to kind of like

to ruin, yeah. Yeah, to ruin, like, you know, it goes further when it's like, no, no, what do you mean? Right. What do you mean this guy could think? and, you know. But then, so from there, you kind of just go nuts doing more and more subway content because that was just going real good for you at the time? Yeah, yeah.

You get the rush. You get the like, oh, shit. You got, uh, uh, and then you lose pages. When you lose pages. Because of the subway, because it's dangerous, it's illegal. Yeah, my crack sometimes, like, it's a little bit too much. See, I was thinking that is that on Instagram, I would probably never show my butt crack, like the way you do because I would just think that I would get deleted.

even though I know that, you know, if I were to do a skit with my ass crack out, that that's going to be pretty fucking funny, right? That's like... It worked for me? People would probably love it. Yeah. It will go viral more just because, like,

butt crack is funny, but then also probably against terms of service. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's very natural. I don't go like, hey, guy, here's the crack. Yeah, it just looks like it's natural. Whatever movement happens, and sometimes my clothing have been through the wars of, like, bumming.

Well, you have, like, a whole bum ensemble, like your closet has like a bum section, I would assume. No, no, no. Because you have to have normal clothes that aren't like ripped sweatpants, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get to, because I won't be let, yeah, I won't be able to make it a burbank like that. Yeah. There's cops all over the station. Like, even if you got on the plane.

Yeah. I mean, what do you, they're probably not going to let you get on the plane looking like the way you look right now. Well, definitely you need a shirt, but. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they, you know, but they let me take my pictures with the pilot. But if people just have, like, if you have like ripped sweat, pants. Oh, no, no. Everyone's just going to be looking at you like your filthy, like, I can only imagine how

many assumptions people must have about you in that environment, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Missing my flight is not fun because it's like, what the fucky. Wait, that's happened. So you don't like dress nice ever. Well, I do, but because of the bumhead. I have a bum head. Okay.

So it already makes people like, what the fuck. But you can put on a hat. Huh? Yeah. Put on a hat. Yeah, but the struggle that always comes across. like struggle. But okay, Friday night, you're with a lady friend, you want to go get dinner.

You're not wearing the rip sweatpants. No, no. Right, okay, I just want to make sure. Yeah, yeah, no, no. Right. Yeah, I'm a regular guy that wants the date to end good. Yeah. Okay, got you.

You still live in New York? I just moved out here. Oh, out here? Yeah. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah, I mean, it's six months. Wow.

Yeah, so acclimate. And I met you because. Because of all people, Alex Stein. Yeah, that Alex Stein, the right-wing provocateur, as they might say, he actually messaged me. I've actually never even met him, but we've talked a few times online. You've never met Alex Stein? Not IRL, no. No.

Wow, he's amazing. I would like to do some content. We can go scope some big booty Latinas movie. There you go. Yeah. That was my first time I became familiar with him, and I was like, oh, my God, we're a horrible person. I was like, I want to jump. He's a lovable hourboard.

Right, but I, you know, not like a huge AOC fan, but he called her a big booty. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's taking me to her office. I was so cool. Wait, really? He brought you in on some of this? Oh, yeah. I've been to the Capitol building.

Oh, shit. You stormed the Capitol? Oh, yeah. Shut up. I mean, we have to run for our lives. Well, it would make sense that you would be free now since they all did get partnered. Yeah. Wait, but you weren't there on January 6th.

No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. Were you there on October 7th? When was it that we were there that, uh, yeah, he'll be, yeah, yeah, I, I just go with where, where he got, I don't think it was the, never mind. Um, but, okay, so how'd you meet Alex? Oh, Alex, oh, man, uh, he was doing content in New York and reached out to me, like, hey, let's do something.

He saw the vision. He saw the vision. Got it. And we went to Barstool's headquarters. That's where. our first date. Oh. And it was,

it was classic. We didn't know what was going to happen. Really? Yeah. And we were, you know, we was calling out Dave and

I was there. The first time I got manhandled and working. Oh. But, you were doing content there and they manhandled you? Yeah, we just showed up. Just for the record,

throughout this episode, Josh came in and took photos. Then Nathan came in and took photos. And then, Mikey came and it's all because this morning I was like, yo, we got to get more Snapchat content and they all took it upon themselves to do the exact same behind-seats content. That's pretty funny. Wow.

Yeah. I don't know who. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. Awesome. Just so you know. You might have thought it was a setup or something.

Yeah. Yeah. Um, like, did you, did you like intentionally get fat or like, like, because it's funny. If you were in good shape, it wouldn't be as funny. Yeah, I mean, I didn't intentionally get fat. I got to blame that on, like, just poor eating. You know, I've been a mama's boy most of my life and rice and pork chops. Oh, I've been there, my friend.

Yeah. I mean, it's very easy to, like, well, for me, it's kind of like I'll eat like absolute shit for six months. And then, like, I'll be like, okay, you got to chill. Eat good for, like, a month. Two months. Forget that I was getting fat. All of a sudden, you start getting weight against because it's kind of back and forth. Oh, okay.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm a big sweet guy. And, yeah, sweets, you know, because I smoke. So it's just. Weed or cigarettes? I don't know. Weed.

Okay. No cigarettes? No cigarettes. Okay. So it gives me the munchies and before I know it. What's your smoking apparatus of choice? I just swishers. Okay.

I'm a basic swishers guys. Classic. If I get a roll up, I'm like, in heaven, you know. All right. It's not going to kill me. Yeah. But, yeah, being that I've been spoken for 30 years, it's just the blunt habit, you know. Oh, yeah.

I'm a tobacco, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a great combo. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm done with everything, the oils. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like a weed smugger who's just down to do any type of weed.

Yeah. Bring it to me. Bring it on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got some edibles right there. Fucking 250 milligrams per piece. Oh, whoa. I took one.

I was on my ass. Oh, shit. The next day, I was kind of still high shit. All right. We might have to. Everything 420.com. Shout with them. Oh, wow.

Yeah. Shout out to them. Wow. Definitely. Good job like that. Wow. You ever done content with damn homie? The one that got away?

No, no, no. No, no. I just love her. Oh. Yeah. But you've never connected with it. were there? Oh, no, no. I have videos with her. Oh, you have done videos? Yeah, I went to Miami and got the honor of working with her there. Oh, wow. We did this kid where she flew a bum out,

you know, and brought me to her beautiful place. Oh, that is funny. I fuck. I wish I had told my wife to come in to this, so I could have done something like that. Gifting my wife a bum. Oh, it was a fire. Tell her there's a new cuck in town. That's what I'm saying, yeah. Wait, no, I'm, I would be the cuck. I'm not going to be like, here's this guy. He's going to watch us for it. Even from the Instagram real perspective, I don't know if people would think that that made that much sense. Sorry, that's your feel.

Oh, you know what's funny though? We got to get a picture of me and him on the plug talk couch. Because I do porn. We have the porn set on the other side. And if me and you are on the couch together, then. it'll look like we're going to fuck. I realize that's gay, but also funny. Hey, if it's funny more than gay,

and you know what it's Hollywood, it's fine. Yeah. For sure, no, that's real. You're in Hollywood now. Yeah, I'm thinking about giving in to the gay gods. Really? Have you thought about doing anything gay while you're out here? Not willingly.

What's the gayest thing you ever did? The gayest thing? By choice? Or the force, yeah. If anyone forced you to do a gay thing, I mean, we should probably talk about it. This is the place, yeah. No, no, no, no, because, I mean, you know, I've had a finger in my ass. Whoa, that was damn homie?

No. Oh, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad. She's a friend. No, she's frisky. But who did that to you? It was in the military. It was like, you know, that was the consequence of, like, getting out of there when, like, threw myself down a fly to stairs.

It took with the triage and before I knew it, it was like... Oh. Yeah. So it wasn't like in a freaky way, but... Oh. It was by a doctor. By a doctor. Oh, that's not gay.

No. Oh, okay. We've all done that. Yeah. Nearly all of us. All right. So I'm straight. No, I did the way gayer version.

I had to, uh, I had, um... A sexy? No, but, no. But it was, um, I had like, an, I, something was wrong with my prostate, basically. I had an infection on my prostate, which is very random. It hasn't happened since. I don't know how it happened.

But the doctor basically, like, knew that I had something messed up with my prostate, but they needed to do a test. And so they basically, like, need to stimulate your prostate. So he bends me over, puts on a rubber glove, and jams a finger on my ass, and is moving it around. And so what this is supposed to do is it's supposed to make, come come out of your penis I'm sure you've heard about this

that guys come from having their prostate touched right I've heard it but not I never did it before but then all but it was barely anything it was like the tiniest little dribble on the end of my penis and he had to actually capture that

and test it to like confirm that I had this infection that he thought that I had and he gave me anobiotics one right away but that was really weird it felt yeah you know I mean I guess you probably prepared I was near that mine, but yeah.

Yeah, yeah, no, it was definitely. Because there was liquid coming out of you. A tiny droplet. It wasn't like a load. Oh, but isn't that weird to think that like, my dick wasn't hard? This guy puts a finger in my house and I get a dribble. I couldn't he have said, like, beat off? Yeah, yeah.

But, like, because I would have way rather just, like, sat there and jerked off in a cup, which I've also done in my life, but just contributing, you know. Oh, okay. You donated from? me and my wife basically wanted to like put aside eggs and sperm so that we can in the future if we don't want to do it now yeah okay okay so your eggs are frozen somewhere well her eggs but yeah oh her eggs okay okay okay what about yours i don't have eggs well oh sorry i ate six eggs this morning but in terms of all right inside my body eggs, you know, once the finger thing I've been thrown off. So do you make any money from comedy or from social media or is it kind of rough?

It's been kind of rough because like YouTube don't do it really. Yeah, yeah. Like you either got it or you don't in these things, you know, these platforms. And I've been banned or flagged so much on Instagram that I think I owe them money. So it's just kind of like, you know, it takes time. to anytime there's like money coming they're like no the crack of your ass is we can see it again and then

it sets me back. Tick-Tock for sure yeah yeah yeah yeah. Tick-Tock is just a wash you can't show booty crack on there. Yeah yeah yeah so yeah so it's one of those things when I'm about to be in the clear they just like we see something and and I get a violation

so I've not been able to make money and in New York even though I was popular as hell a lot of people that like offer me work were like from the hood and you know yeah yeah pull up

and you know we got you blah blah and then the game afterwards like yo well you were trying to give you the money and you left that is like went to get a coffee

I'd be yeah so they use you for a skit yeah they will use me for skits and then not not pay yeah damn that's grimy as fun I didn't even thought of that

work alone it was like it's you know I'm my own everything that's crazy I felt like the Instagram skit game should have like an honor protocol.

Yes. Amen. I mean, yes. Yeah. Like, if we're going to do this, you got to respect. And that's why I always saw his interest when I would see Fat Boy back in the day. And he'd be going around doing skits in the hood, a million different neighborhoods. And I'd be watching it just like, damn, bro. Like, how the fuck are you not getting robbed and beaten, harassed? Like, I mean, I just, you go to somebody's neighborhood. Yeah.

Even if you got three homies. I mean, you got one guy with a gun. Hey, sorry. you're doing whatever we say like you just go bad so easily you know yeah yeah and and that's why i take the losses because i'm a lone ranger out there so it's like yeah oh yeah i'm gonna block you that's it don't ever talk to me again oh we didn't want to talk to you anyway i just wanted to scam you scammer and on to the next but so um what what are you doing out here in l.a like what's what's the game plan yeah the game plan is like trying to land that movie to change my

So, yeah, so I'm just kind of like, yeah, dabbling in comedy, dabbling and, you know, like landing a few roles here and there. So you've been going on auditions and shit like that? Auditions, yeah, yeah. What kind of, like, auditions do you respond to? Like, what is the description that you're answering? Well, my go-to, which I thought was going to be like, I thought bum homeless is going to be like, I'm a wheel out.

Yeah. But out here is a serious. competition. I've not been able even to be a bum. To be a bum. Yeah, out here I, yeah. Well, that's just crazy is that they're going to take like a regular dude.

Yeah. And they're going to like shave some hair off. Yeah. Yeah. Make them look fucked up. Boom, we've got our bomb. You're like, no, I come fully loaded. You are going to save so much money on a makeup artist and everything else. Like, I'm ready, bray. Oh, natural.

You know? And it doesn't, Yeah, so now I'm just submitted for, like, you know, other roles. Frederick Douglass had a ticket to stab with that, you know, just, you know, okay, I just, you know, my wheelhouse is no longer, like, my go to. So I'm scared, actually, because it's like, guys, this is what I'm here for, you know. How are you paying the bills? Paying the bills, and that's why I'm in, you know, I'm a vet, so I'm staying at a veteran. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're taking care of me, you know, I'm not sure for how much longer, but, um, I'm not sure for how much longer, but,

Yeah, about to get, like, settled in with them. They're not, like, required to take care of you for life as a bet. They, they kind of are. They, you know, they're, yeah, they look out for us. They, yeah, this is the first time I've taken advantage of it. So I'm just, hey, because I'm supposed to be, I'm service connected. I mean, I'm not service connect. I'm supposed to, like, apply for that.

But I've just, I've always been like, I'm going to make it as an artist. I don't need nothing from the government. but not here in LA I'm like all right guys you're pleased to stay to like crack things and okay yeah so so they're working on you know they're working on that about to get keys hopefully

in a week or so thank you America there it is yeah shout out to the troops yeah I'll feed you when you get back guys I promise for sure so now I'm starting to realize it's time

I'm gonna do this fucking skit. This is going to be crazy. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. All right. So, I mean, I guess I'm going to try to, like, move the mic over here a little bit, so it's a little bit, like, out of the way. Okay, okay.

And then, like, this thing would be great to not hit. So I guess I'm going to dip this down here. Okay. Yeah. And even my headphones, I guess I just kind of put those to the side. Yeah. What's the magic word? What about this?

So basically, like, I would say, let's, let's loosen the top. This. hands. Oh man, this is going to be like Andrew Wilson. It doesn't still have the plastic? Oh, yeah, you're right. Oh, okay, that's why.

Oh, that makes sense. I was going to say it's going to be like Andrew Wilson and the can of pickles or whatever that was. Yeah, the plastic now is my problem. Yeah. Okay, there we go. Much better now.

Okay, so I'm trying to think about what I'm going to say. to make me just To make you want to like assault me With the cappuccino You know I guess you don't even have I guess you don't even have You're fucking

You're fraud to You're frauding people out there And what you're doing? But what if I'm more like What if I'm just like Callin you fat Huh? Like if I

Yeah Like if I'm kind of like Like Yeah because maybe that That should be what I say Like, maybe I'll just... No, what the fucking fat, bro? What the fuck?

I'll be like, listen, I'm going to be real with you. You've wasted your... How old are you? 56. I'm going to be like, you've been wasting your life for 56 years. You need to get a fucking job. Lose some... I'm going to say shit like that, right?

And then I guess if I'm you, grab it with your left hand. And from my respect, you just go full full... face. Don't fucking disrespect now. Yeah. And then just boom. Yeah. But we got to kind of like go back and forth a little bit to like escalate it.

I think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. All right. All right.

Here we go. Yeah. I'm going to put my phone down here. It's funny because I did like this exact thing with fat boy back in the day. I was like you're fat. You're fat. You're fat. And he like dumped a fucking kid of soda on me.

And I thought. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's like welfare money, motherfucker? Like, something like you can go, go for a jocula. I needed, I needed this for sure.

And you, we got a good amount in frame where you can kind of see, like, I mean, I feel like you shouldn't even stand up or maybe you can stand up, but like, douse me and then kind of like stand up. And because I'm trying to think like, because, like, logically, I should be trying to fight him after. So I'm going to fucking kind of like recoil in horror. It might take me a second. But then I should probably like start, like, trying to grab you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you should kind of like, once you throw it, you should stand, sort of stand up. And I'll, like, come at you. Like, I'm trying to grab you or whatever. And then we can kind of like. Yeah. Maybe I'll run around the table and that'll kind of be the end of it. All right.

You fucking bump. No, but because let's be real. You've wasted your entire life. 56 years you've been wasting your fucking life I feel like it's time to be real with yourself Waste Lose weight Get a fucking job stop living off the government Yo what the fuck

You fuck you're talking about the government Huh? Nobody's living out the fucking government What? Hey, what? Do fuck yo? Yo, nick Fuck your problem, bro? The fuck is your problem? All right That looks good, bro. That was good.

Yo, I kind of hit him for real. I got to hit him on his arm. You know, that was fire. I cut! It's a little bit of cleanup, dude. I got to take a picture for my girl. That was fire. Tell him where to follow you.

Tell them where to follow you. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, guys, follow me. IG bump viral guys for more craziness. This is just the inside version, but you know, there's a lot more. You got to see how the sausage was made right there.

There you go. I appreciate you. Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it. I do it. Thank you, bro. I love it.