No Jumper - Aspen Kartier on Her Chicago Upbringing, Beefing with Her Ex, Getting Shot At & More

Episode Date: August 7, 2025

Aspen Kartier talks about her friendship with Lil Bibby, moving around in Chicago, rappers lacking, her parents, and more. ----- Shout out to all our members who make this content possible, sign up f...or only $5 a month    / @nojumper   Check out e420 app for deals Apple: https://spn.so/g6gbid5j Google: https://spn.so/104g2yp6 use code NOJUMPER for $$ off Promote Your Music with No Jumper - https://nojumper.com/pages/promo CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://nojumper.com NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901    / nojumper    / nojumper    / nojumper    / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22   adam22bro on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You might want to move that just because it's going to kind of block you. Even though I know you're trying to flex it. It was a sympathy purse. She's just going to vibe me the whole interview. What is this? I don't know. She's popping it today. Sympathy purse from who?
Starting point is 00:00:15 No, I was crying and BB was like, you want a bag? Where? He was like, you want to go to nurse and I was like, yeah, he bought me to that. Oh, Bibby's a trick. What the fuck? No, he's not a trick. Trying to brighten your day up? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Wow. That's not the Bibby I thought I was dealing with her. Oh, he's very sweet. That's over sweet Why somebody a bag? Yeah I mean he did give me the jacket To and his beret
Starting point is 00:00:39 So yeah he's sweet Damn all right baby We're gonna have to have to have a talk Yeah because my girl said the My girl like warmest she came into the room She's like yo You should probably go out there And just get right into the interview
Starting point is 00:00:49 Because she seems like she's easily offended Because she said they asked you to take the photo And you were like Okay What What? First when we did the fucking interview shit Like the whole music shit, I'm like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:01:04 But my label said it up, so I'm gonna do it. Okay. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do everything regardless. Right. If I, if we recorded. Yeah, we live. We in effect.
Starting point is 00:01:12 It was a podcast. We was recording when I said the other shit. No. Oh, not. Not if you say anything crazy out there. What the fuck? Punked. You got punked.
Starting point is 00:01:23 You good. You good. You tricked me. I should have never talked to you. I just sat down and started talking. Y'all didn't say one, two, three, go. We're doing it right now. One, two, three, go.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Okay. We're going to do the other stuff, too. Just, just extra goat. Because then they're going to feel like they saw the real you. That's valuable. Authenticity goes a long way in this game. Which camera? That one?
Starting point is 00:01:46 It don't even matter. You can just look at us, yeah. It's crazy looking at you when I watch you on YouTube. Yeah? Yeah, you're a little pussy. What? As soon as I walk in, she hits me with the... Where you from?
Starting point is 00:02:00 Because I'm thinking he wanted them nagas. You'd be on. this bitch chatting yeah yeah I am one of them yeah oh yeah that's how clapping yeah up this bitch your face don't do shit backwards wait clapping you're clapping you clap you clap don't clap me why did you call me pussy you just dropped your bag yeah yeah you wherever you you can even put it like right here okay okay so you can still kind of scope it but like all right okay what fade did I turn down that you're pissed off about. Huh?
Starting point is 00:02:35 What fake? Did you turn that I was pissed off about? And you said, I'm a pussy. No, no, no, no. You didn't turn down on fake. I just feel like... No, but I did. At the same time, why are you fighting?
Starting point is 00:02:45 Exactly. Niggas is trying to fight him, though. But at the same time, why am I fighting you on rich as fuck? Like... All right, so what made you say he was a pussy then? Why you started out like that? Because he's pussy. He said something.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Oh, I can't even remember. I think it was... I think it was, um, Ruga interview. That's the one. That's what I was assuming you were going off. Oh, no, no, no, the fighting shit was OD. Okay. But what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:03:08 It was OD that he wanted a fight or it was OD that I did not want to fight? No, I don't think you should have fault. Okay. I feel like your job is to interrogate motherfucking say shit you don't want to hear. That's the part of an interview. It's just whether you let your feelings get involved, you know? Okay, thank you. Then you in LA trying to fight.
Starting point is 00:03:25 You get locked up in LA. I got locked up in LA. I almost cried to call my mama. You don't want you locked up LA. Why am I sitting here finding you? I wouldn't fight nobody. I wouldn't find out. If I was in his position in life with just being like who I am and how much money I got,
Starting point is 00:03:38 I know you guys are money. You down for a squabble? To fight, too? No, not me. Just like a girl from the neighborhood that you got beef with or something? I don't fight. You wouldn't get into that? I don't fight.
Starting point is 00:03:48 No? No. You know what they call me Queen Drake? That's I was thinking, yeah. You can have Bibby switch them down? Why would I have baby do that? We bought you a bag. No, he's amazing.
Starting point is 00:03:58 He's a sweetheart. Okay. So you are, she says she's putting belt this shit herself. Damn. What does belt mean? I don't know. I just be hearing that. I just been hearing that shit.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Yeah. You guys stop saying that shit. It sounds cool. You got to stop hearing everything. What belt's over? Belt. We missed the wave. It's just lame as fuck to say belt.
Starting point is 00:04:14 I wonder to marry belt today. Yeah? Yeah. How much was that? Ooh. Really? Not enough to tie waist my race. Not enough to tie around my waist because I know you fuckers.
Starting point is 00:04:24 I'm going to clip that and say I don't know how to talk. I was not sure what you said either. And then you repeated that. And I was like, okay, got it. Anyway, Wait, we didn't mention this, but Aspen Cartierrez in the building. Why do y'all have a hole in the wall?
Starting point is 00:04:36 Is that for the light? That's the ceiling, not the wall. And I don't know. There's like a bunch of equipment. It's like holding the light up there. And it's like some soundproofing shit. And it's the whole thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:46 You'd be out of mirror a lot. Married a lot. I'd be at the Mary store a lot. No? You just told me that you was there recently. And you said you was just there again. No, no. I wasn't even there.
Starting point is 00:04:56 I see him coming out of there. I was in the car. We was parked. we were trying to go to the bank. I wasn't never at the Maryster in Chicago. I don't, I really buy my money on designer. The reason I did it today is because I've done a lot of accomplishments, so make myself feel good, going through a breakup.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Really? Who's the breakup with? Multiple breakups? You have multiple men? I don't talk to no man right now. None. No roster. No going to sleep on the phone.
Starting point is 00:05:23 No, I can call, kick it with you, no, nobody. Why'd you have to leave them alone? I just felt like my mental health was just getting detained. dreamed. I don't want to argue. Then I'm social media and like everybody got this image of me being like, oh, she's with this, nigga, she's with him. It's like, bro, that's just be content or like some fun shit where it just be taken out of character and I don't be feeling like doing that with that in my real life.
Starting point is 00:05:45 So yeah, have a career. Goodbye. Yeah, bye. Because you just got cut off. Yeah. Are their hearts broken? Yeah. Damn.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Yeah, I mean, especially like you're starting to blow up and then it's like, oh, bye. And they're like, oh, I was trying to hitch myself to this wagon. I was trying to ride this ship to the top. You know, that's like the worst thing. You put in years of sweat, equity, building up a girl. She gets one hot song. Goodbye. I don't think it was like that.
Starting point is 00:06:15 That's the narrative I'm going with, though. What was the narrative there? Honestly, I'm going to tell you all. So, we're my friends, we all at a hotel right now, and they were just on the phone with their people's and, like, on the phone with their family. They was on the phone with, like, their mom, dads and shit. And they was just, like, friends, cousins,
Starting point is 00:06:32 like, blur-related people. And they were just talking, like, telling them how L.A. is and, like, how they like it and what's fun about L.A. And I just thought, like, damn, when I was in L.A., I didn't talk to nobody. Damn, I've been here. I've been, in Miami, I've been going home from a month, and nobody called to check up on me. You know what I mean? Like, I can't call back and talk to a nigger and be, and then they just want to argue and deteriorate me or just say, I don't know if that's the word. But, or say some bad shit to me or say some mean shit to me or, like, just, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I don't know. I just feel like I was lowering myself trying to. to fulfill a family need. Like, oh, I want a boyfriend so he can take the place of my mom or take the place of my dad or take the place of my sister. And it's like... I mean, like, a lot of these dudes are being put through stress tests that the average boyfriend does not get put through.
Starting point is 00:07:19 You know, you're in the studio with all these rappers. They're over here feeling like I'm not lit like them. And I don't know who your ex was, by the way, if he's popping or anything. I'm sorry. But like, you know, like all that shit. Like, normal dudes don't got to do that. Normal dudes their girl goes to work. Maybe she got to talk to some customers and shit.
Starting point is 00:07:36 And she comes home. Maybe she goes to the bar or the club or whatever here and there. But like for the most part, dudes just don't have to like constantly feel like their bitch is being threatened by all these other dudes who are probably- Is your bitch being threatened? Nah, she's chilling. But she's getting dicked.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Dick down. And she's still like, I'm not stressing me. You say these words on YouTube? Dick, yeah. I could be talking about like Dick Tracy. Richard oh since when you got a filter
Starting point is 00:08:07 you be saying all type of shit on you too you ain't got no filters you have fake ho a fake ho take your ass to the front we finish no because you rap about
Starting point is 00:08:18 all this other shit but then you don't really like in real life you got a man's like this like the city girls no in real life I'm tough tough that's kind of a different thing I feel like I portray
Starting point is 00:08:28 I feel like I portray tough because I'm forced to be tough Yeah It's like if you're not tough You're getting bitched I want to get bitched Yeah so let's break it down though So let's talk about some of your back story
Starting point is 00:08:41 And shit Okay So what part of Chicago are you from? I'm from OVA East But I didn't live everywhere I didn't live on 16 knife In Jeffrey I didn't live in Harvey I didn't live on the low end
Starting point is 00:08:49 I didn't live in the suburbs I don't live DT you I don't live in so many places So what part you claim the most So like what part you say Honestly I've never lived nowhere At 16 in life I grew up right there But after like my like middle ages
Starting point is 00:09:01 like 12. I've house hopped every year, honestly. So, like, I can't really claim a block. I've been there for a year. Why house hopping so much? Evictions, trouble. Yeah, evictions, trouble, stuff like that. What was going on with your family situation?
Starting point is 00:09:21 It's like we was good. Then we lost our Section A voucher, and then it should start going back. And then schools, I was getting, jumping from school to school, because I was doing bad shit in school and I'm like, Mom, I can't go back to the school They're trying to get me
Starting point is 00:09:34 And she's like, she's not believing in and says like, oh wait my baby, in danger I have to move her. So shit like that was happening. It was getting evicted. Then I started house hopping. Then I was getting kicked out because I just, like, once we start house happening,
Starting point is 00:09:48 you lose the like the stability. Yeah, the stability in a household. It just like you feel like you, you're growing up faster than what you really is and what you think and shit and you just start doing your own bad shit. Yeah. I mean, having your house and your family and shit, that's like your safety net.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Yeah. So when you start losing that, you go outside. Damn. So you feel like that made you, like, grow up way faster? All of a sudden, you started being around a lot of shit that you wouldn't necessarily been around otherwise. Yeah. Like, a lot of the reason why I'm like I am today is because I grew up around them.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Like, they raised me in a way. Yeah, because I see you, I heard you say a couple times that, uh, your mom, she's in and out your life. Yeah. Like, what do you mean about that? Like, like. Where's she going? She's a disappearer-hast motherfucker. That's what I see you saying.
Starting point is 00:10:33 I love mama though. I love you. I love you by. But you do disappear. Like, she does disappear. If she gets a boyfriend, she's gone on your ass. What? If she's had something, she's like, she's gone.
Starting point is 00:10:43 If she's not happy mentally, like, she was going through a break up one time. And I swear to God, we was living in the same house, but we did not see our mom for a whole week. What? Like, she will really distance herself. And I'd be having that bad. And I'd be, like, trying to get out of that. Like, fuck, that's the trait that I don't want. So.
Starting point is 00:10:57 You ain't been in therapy yet? I went to one therapy I went to a therapy when I was when I was going to Excel and I was going through it was crazy because around that time I was going through I was losing a kid yeah and I had got kid
Starting point is 00:11:11 we was getting evicted I was living my boyfriend we had broke up was losing a kid losing a kid yeah I was pregnant it was blind yeah okay yeah so that shit was happening and that's when they
Starting point is 00:11:23 oh I started threatening oh I was being terrible to the teachers like because my brain was so screw like I'm just like telling you teacher fuck them I ain't doing this shit like just mad as fuck at the world so then the teacher like she was like really cool like even if I was arguing well being me to us like she was like you just need therapy like you just need to talk to somebody so they would pull me out of class a lot of my classes and I just sit down I talk to a lady for a long long time I need her again like right because you having a mom that seem willing to like
Starting point is 00:11:52 choose random dudes over you like that I feel like that's the kind of thing that's gonna really fuck you up in the head, which I'm surprised that you have, like, the confidence and everything to be a rapper, uh, given those kind of experiences. Like,
Starting point is 00:12:03 did you always sort of have like a confident personality? Or is that something you kind of came into as you get older? I, I feel like I, with being not famous, but I'm well known. You have to be confident within yourself because the comments to tell your ass up.
Starting point is 00:12:16 But I feel like, every since I was a little girl, I always knew like, you're going to be her when you get older. You're not going to do this. You're going to have a lot of money. You're going to figure some shit. I like,
Starting point is 00:12:24 when we was getting evicted and they was forcing me to go to school, I dropped out of school and I got me a morning shift at McDonald's, got me an afternoon ship at the mall and then had a nice shift at Wendy's. Like, I'm like, okay, I'm going to figure this shit out.
Starting point is 00:12:35 I'm not fun to be hungry trying to figure out when my next meal is going to be off the next month like I'm going to do this shit myself. Is McDonald's and Wendy's cool with that or they look at that like hood dropping? Man, I don't know
Starting point is 00:12:44 because I used to come in that bitch with different uniforms. Because you cut my hours, I need something else. You're telling me to go home. I got to do something else. Oh, that's nice. How old age?
Starting point is 00:12:56 did you realize like, damn, my mom be, she'd be disappearing. Like, when did you realize, like, damn, I'm out here by myself, type of shit? My, okay, so my sister, she had gave my sister to her dad because she had, like, some little shit happened before I was alive. So my sister will always say me, like, don't be close to mom. Don't think mom is such high. Stop doing this for mom. Stop doing this.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Like, you need to realize that mom not going to be there. And, like, I don't mean, my mom, I'm not going to be there. Mom, I'm going to be here. Mom, I'm going to figure this shit out. Like, every time we got evicted, we got sleep in the corner. We never slip in the corner. But like, if we got to do that, we got to do that. The wheels fall out.
Starting point is 00:13:26 We sleep in the car. We're sleeping in the car. Like, I was right or die by my house behind my home. You wanted to believe in her, even if you maybe had reasons to not believe in her. And then I just got old and I was like now because like now when I went out because mind you, I just get all this. This shit, when I'm telling these stories, don't think this shit years ago. This shit probably like four months ago.
Starting point is 00:13:46 You feel what I'm saying? So like when we was homeless, we was homeless for like I probably think like four months in and then I started living my dad and I had when that's when I had picked up all the jobs and shit and was going through the turn to the schools and shit. And my mom kept telling me like, oh, I'm going to get us a crib. I'm going to get us a car. And it was like, I'm praying on that day that she called me. It was like, oh, I got us this. I got us that. And that day never fucking came.
Starting point is 00:14:06 So I'm like, okay, well, we're going to have to figure some shit out. So then she started actually, no, she paid for my studios. She helped me pay for shit. Like, she wasn't, she wasn't a dead-be-d-ass mom. She was, she was trying to figure out a way. But at the same time, my mom has a bad like bad pass. Like, she didn't have worse shit going with her life than me. So, like, I never tried to judge my mom as a, like, oh, you're a fucking daddy-bed
Starting point is 00:14:29 I always try to think, like, she has mental shit going on. And I'm dealing with that. So I know how it feels to just want to sit in your room and just cry all day. So, like, I used to try to, like, give her sympathy passes, but I'm like, what day you're going to step up and figure some shit out? So when it was my chance, I did it. That's, like, a very adult perspective on that because I feel like a lot of people kind of come into that sort of perspective when they're, like, 30 or 40 or some
Starting point is 00:14:51 shit where they can really, like, empathize with their parents and everything they were going through. That's pretty impressive that you're so young and you're able to look at your mom and, like, get that about her. Yeah. So once I figured out, like, I got to do this shit on my own and then I start blowing up with music online. Nobody believed in the fucking rap.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Mom did. Not going to lie, mom. She was a vetting her. Yeah, mom, you did. She was dropping me off. If she was taking some, taking her boyfriend's cop, taking me some studio sessions, like, she was figuring some shit out for me. And then I'm like, okay, I got to put some money behind this shit.
Starting point is 00:15:22 I got to put these rap checks behind this shit. And then that's when I just started rapping. So where's dad at at this song? You never mentioned him. Oh, my dad. Hey, my dad. What's up, dad? He'd be watching my shit.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Hey, dad. I love my dad. But as far as household, like, he's there? He's, he's there. But both of my parents have, like, they own past trauma. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, me and my dad, I live with him, well, currently, well, before I was doing all this shit.
Starting point is 00:15:50 But I have, I say with my dad, he's real cool. Like, yeah, he's. He's real cool, but he goes through his own. So while your mom was out doing whatever she's doing, your dad was there being? Nah, not. So who was really raising you? You said your brothers at the time.
Starting point is 00:16:02 My brothers, boyfriends, grandma, like, it was a lot of everybody. Like, a lot of. But you name a lot of dudes, though, so a lot of, that's why. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of, a lot of my boyfriends. Yeah. Shout out to them. You'd be just using them up and then just moving on.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Oh, you let me stand your house? Oh, your mom cook? Oh, babes, I'm here. So you're hobosexual? What's hobosexual? When you don't have a place to live, so you basically just took up a gas. I mean, if you have the homeless and you pretty, you don't even got an opioid. I know.
Starting point is 00:16:36 That's what I'm thinking is like, okay, because I didn't even have sex with, I didn't even have sex with. When a woman, like a man, you will see a man who's homeless who's in good shape. He's like, you know, a good looking dude, whatever. Yeah, he's strung out on drugs or whatever, but he homeless. A woman you almost never see up anywhere close to attractive. homeless woman because they've just got a natural way that they're going to be able to earn a living until so if they if you see a homeless woman she's fucked beyond belief typically just really beat yeah totally um anyway okay so you're moving around when does the rapping thing even come into the picture like you know at what point you start thinking about that or was one of these boyfriends who put the battery in your back called out So I had a rapper boyfriend He would take me to his studios
Starting point is 00:17:27 But I wasn't rapping at the time So then I was like I liked this shit So then we and him had broke up And I was like I had seen his I was logged into his phone On my phone Like a copy of his phone On my phone
Starting point is 00:17:41 So I had seen That was one of the weirdest things Anyone's ever done in the interview with me That you just switched into this like Yeah Cadence there So okay I didn't I was in his phone
Starting point is 00:17:52 One day And I had seen some money some money from a label got it and I was like Oh so he got signed Are we supposed to know who it is? No I know no
Starting point is 00:18:03 You know I might air it out No no fucking do that you fucking geeky I think he's gonna come up But yeah And I was like oh yeah this rap shit pay I'm full of gray Let me get in this bitch rap
Starting point is 00:18:16 So I made a disc If he's known enough to get signed Then we probably know A lot of people saying that The motherfuckers ain't know Yeah but we probably know in the mix, right? Let me see that tattoo.
Starting point is 00:18:28 I fucking hate this dude. What the fuck? Let me see. No, I don't have no tattoo. I have a butterfly tattoo. Yeah, let me see it. Probably got a bunch of dudes tattooed on you. Okay, fuck no.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Okay, sorry. That one is right there. I can't tell the name, though. Yeah. So they did good. It's an air bake. Oh, word. You would never be able to.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Out here, you got to get your dude's name on your face. Fuck, no. I would never get another name titled on me. No? No. Never? Unless it's my baby daddy Are you just too
Starting point is 00:18:57 traumatized or is it like You know that young love is not necessarily meant to last Correct on both Okay Totally Yeah I guess once you cover up one tattoo You're either the kind of person who gets a tattoo Covered up one time and then keeps getting
Starting point is 00:19:13 Lovers tattooed on them or you're the person who like Just keeps doing it for the rest of your life Yeah So you said you seen that number in the phone and you was like All right I could do this shit Yeah, this type of bag. Yeah, so I went to the studio. And when I went to the studio, everybody was fucking with it in the studio.
Starting point is 00:19:30 The studio was deep. Then I had gotten some hot cars. Then when I was in a hot car and they was playing it in a hot car being a stolen car? No. Oh, I thought that's what a hot car. I mean, the gas is running low. So, yeah, I was in a hot car. And they was playing a song and they knew the song and they was fucking with it.
Starting point is 00:19:48 I'm about I'm going to keep rapping. I saw off the rip. You're like, all right, bet this is going to work out. Yeah. If my homies fuck with it. the world of fuck with it. So then how seriously and how soon
Starting point is 00:19:56 you recorded that first song? Like, how quick were you back in the studio? Long time? I had no money. So it took a minute to actually go back.
Starting point is 00:20:04 I didn't start. After that song, that song was probably a year ago. And what song is that? It's not out. It's not even out. It's called a disc.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Some shit. Some shit. Who did you dis? Everybody. Really? Yeah. If that song comes out. Oh,
Starting point is 00:20:21 wait, you never put it out. Okay. You can't whistle Me neither Nicky you ain't hear it I can't whistle Every different combination of ways
Starting point is 00:20:34 I could shape my lips It doesn't make a whistle noise Yeah because your lips kind of weird They're like they shit like this They shit like you doing this Why I'm always getting roasted by teenagers On the show these days That's my mother
Starting point is 00:20:50 So you said that you Your lips will look like this one day too That's crazy I'm gonna be looking at me lips of the mirror. So, all right? So, like, you do one song and then you say, you got to get your money up. There's the next song, all right?
Starting point is 00:21:02 Yeah. So, like, what's the process and how long did it take for you to like, all right, I'm going to take this series. I'm recording every day. Oh, recording every day. I still wasn't recording every day when I had, when I had did that, where I'm from, and I had the on the mic, that was probably like my second session ever. And that shit blew up.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Yeah, so damn. So you was getting attention real quick. Yeah, and then that's when I started getting free sessions. Like, after that, the recording person, reached back out to me. It was like, I want to do your session for free. Because you could tell I didn't have money. I booked it for two hours and did like four songs.
Starting point is 00:21:33 And did you put it on your YouTube channel or? I put it on a YouTube channel. It was like money bag, TV or some shit like that. He was just giving you the sessions because he's just bleeding in you. He thought you could go up. Hell yeah. Damn. So like that dude, like how did he feel about the fact that you kind of started
Starting point is 00:21:51 rapping because of him and then all of a sudden you sort of start blowing up? Like, I mean, he probably felt some kind of way about that, right? No, he just be texting me, he only, like, he don't really, I don't know. He just told me he was like, he had seen something going viral on TikTok of me rapping. And he sent this and he was like, you're a mini-mee. Hmm. So that's a dis. But I do be stealing his lyrics and still his outfits.
Starting point is 00:22:12 So shit, like, what do you expect? You still kick it with him? You still go over and borrow clothes? You're looking at me like, I don't just repeat what you said. You like pizza? I mean, I try to eat healthy for them. Y'all be making this songs towards each other? You look like you were like Harris Chicken.
Starting point is 00:22:31 You had Taylor's chicken? They got heroes out here, though. Oh, that's nasty. I ain't had the one in Chicago, but they got it out here. See, I do be making this songs to each other. Man, I think I'm on the song. Yeah, I said, no, the distances is with Harold's Chicken. Like, they got a new chicken out here.
Starting point is 00:22:47 The drill artist, that's like how they, you know, show love. They, like, write diss songs. They don't know any other way to communicate. No, we don't have this songs with each other. Oh, word, word, word. You never send bars his way that only he would recognize were about him? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:03 That's like some Taylor Swift shit. You're about to blow a cloud over here? What the fuck you're doing? She's like going to town on that. Oh, yeah. Let me ask you this, though. So how much time you spend on the low end? Low end?
Starting point is 00:23:17 Yeah, during this time. When don't say the low end? I'm asking, like, was you spending time over there? Oh, yeah, yeah. The ex-boyfriend used to stand alone Oh, word Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 00:23:27 Yeah Yeah Yeah So why y'all on there dissing each other and shit We don't dis each other All right so then I got two people Mixed up then
Starting point is 00:23:37 Yeah All right for sure then Because I've seen the fuck Aspen song drop Oh no no Fuck no That is not who we're talking about Fuck his ass
Starting point is 00:23:46 Noah Yeah I thought I thought there was something there No no no So why to fuck that Oh I'm sitting here entertaining this shit or thinking it's funny and we'll literally have two different brains
Starting point is 00:23:55 right now. But you see why I match up? Yeah, yeah, no, no. Me him never dated. So where the fuck that? Where all that energy come from? I'm in the dark. Me getting some clout and my fuck just want to piggyback behind it. So y'all never used to be a thing? Mm-mm.
Starting point is 00:24:08 That's crazy. Y'all had to have something going on. No. Could usually I don't be seeing dudes make a whole disc track towards a female. So like when I seen that... No, we didn't have shit going on. He just... He, me and him had got into it. And then...
Starting point is 00:24:22 It was a long time ago, before the fame. We got into it. He reached back out a year later when I started getting popping and was like, oh, like, let's link and shit. Like, let's be cool like we was before. And I'm like, fuck, no. And then he was like, oh, I mentioned your name and interview. And I was like, you take it out.
Starting point is 00:24:38 And he didn't take it out. And then I finally heard the interview. But the interview had been out for so long. I never watched that shit. And then somebody sent it to me, it was like, hey, he'd talk about you on this bitch. I'm like, why you do that, bro? Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:47 I was just playing. I don't figure it out. Chad, GBT. who has Aspen Cartier dated? There are no publicly confirmed romantic relationships involving Aspen Cartier while rumors have swirled in TikTok circles
Starting point is 00:25:00 particularly about possible connections with Buka the G or drill rapper Didi Osama None of them have been substantiated. Yeah, that's no I don't date them. Those aren't the dudes that you were just talking about? Both are all right now. We're definitely talking about Bukka the G right now for sure.
Starting point is 00:25:17 That's what we're talking about with the music song. He dropped the fuck Aspen song. I don't know. So did you come with Free Cloud first? Free Cloud was first. All right. So you dropped Free Cloud. And I think you mentioned kind of like sent a shot his way.
Starting point is 00:25:28 And he dropped the whole fuck Aspen right after that. So I'm like, that's what threw me off. So I was thinking. That pays good on the other rhythm. My name was in the title. Yeah. Yeah. So you got kind of turning each other up.
Starting point is 00:25:38 No, I'm not talking about. You feel like you turn him up? Yeah, for sure. Got helping though each other? No, I don't. Was it so hard? So it wasn't no strategic shit? Mm-mm.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Word. No. So is it like the kind of thing where you guys hate each other and you don't talk to each other at all? Or is it the kind of thing where like there's still a little bit of banter back and forth? I had some McDonald's today and that shit really fucked with my stomach. What's your order there? 10 piece chicken nugget. No sauce.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Barbecue, ranch, buffalo, sweet and sour. All the sauces. You just put them in front of you and just, you ever put two on one piece at the same time? Oh, fuck yeah. The buffalo and a ranch. Whoa. Now you're O-D-N. Damn.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Why you let that nigga drop you off in your Opshood or his Opshood, really? I was never dropped off. That's what you said, though. I hopped up the car. Word. Oh, yeah, yeah. You hopped up the car in his office or your Opshood? I don't know, though.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Oh, so it ain't your ops. No. Who are your ops? I don't have no ops. No, you got a-selling. You have ops. She definitely got a couple of hours. I can name a couple of them.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Okay. No, that's name shit. No, I'm definitely for the name one. I've seen a Blasjandah recently just had a fuck Aspen dissed a song in the song recently. I'm like, where that come from? I shouldn't even have done this. She wanted to do a feature, that's my home girl.
Starting point is 00:27:05 That's your home girl? Oh, yeah. Because you used to kick it with Journey or you know Journey or, you know Journey or a girl that I used to date school, right? Y'all not cool no more. But that was, was that on Journey song? Yeah. All right, for sure, because that's where she. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:18 So where you and Journey relationship went wrong at? Because y'all used to be all rotating. Yeah. We used to be cool. Maybe we were wrong. when it just wasn't like, just like respect and a friendship. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Right, right, right. Journey's the girl that was all on the porch. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, maybe trying to throw the backdoor title on y'all and all the type of shit. How you be feeling like, how common is it for, like, girls to really be on some backdoor shit in Chicago?
Starting point is 00:27:46 Very common. Like that? Like that, do you want to like that? Yes. So that's why you fell out with her? Or were you guys backdoor chicks together? No. No.
Starting point is 00:27:58 So you, you fell out with her because she was back-doring people. Yeah, I see why people want to just pick your l'aboo eyeballs out, your fucking skull. You just say a little boo-boo? No, your pink little boo-boo. Do you have a l'bubu? No, your pink little blue-blue. Blue-blue eyes. Oh, right, right.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Because they're two blues. Nobody's ever tried to gouge my eyes out, which I'm thankful for. You never had a l'-lo-bub. That's not like what's in the Shirek scene. A little bo-boo. Is Bukia de G buying girls? I swear to God, your ass, irretting.
Starting point is 00:28:29 No more gray. Why the fuck do you keep saying it's fucking in? Hey. Don't put that on someone's grave. That freaks me out. We're going to be cool. No merchant. O'Tay.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Okay. You teed up out here, though. All right, so what's how with you on Auntie? Who's Chicago Auntie? Who's Auntie? Shit, I don't know. You did some, a whole bunch of songs. Who is Auntie?
Starting point is 00:28:53 So you don't know who Auntie is. No, I swear to God. Who was Auntie? No, I'm tripping. Hoti. Oh. Hoti. You know what I'm talking about?
Starting point is 00:29:00 It's no beef. Where y'all just come back and forth? I had an unreleased song drop and then she had said some little shit like on TikTok about her opinion because you know that's what the video she did. Like she shared her opinion. And like when you show your opinion, sometimes you get your shit smacked. So Chicago had you going to get shit smacked. Dumped the Drake stopped doing that bad bad.
Starting point is 00:29:18 So you would all the smoke though? Because I don't see you dug in nobody. Like when it kind of all this rat shit, you were there with all that shit. You're dumping the Drake. Dumping the Drake. Dumping the Drake. I'm touching his belly. pain the scene, I realize spaghetti, shaking his ass, eh.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Yeah. Dumping the Drake is crazy. I can't even like, I never hung out with a girl that talked about shit like that, ever. Look like you would dump a drink. Why your nose so fucking close to the mic? So it can be as loud as possible. Sometimes it's just plant my face on there.
Starting point is 00:29:47 You got a lot of fucking porous. Put that motherfucker down. I do have a very porous nose. You're probably the first person who's ever said that to me. During an interview, though. You're breaking a lot of ground. she teed up she teed up so wait okay
Starting point is 00:30:02 how do you go from someone who's recorded a couple songs and you got the on the radio like how do you really start taking off from there and how it happened so fast in just a couple of months and where do you feel like you're at right now like how are you feeling in terms of where you're at where you need to be going right now
Starting point is 00:30:20 just ask you like 10 questions um right now I feel like I'm with him in a grade A I'm with my label I'm with laid I'm out of town. I'm having a lot of money. I'm doing a YouTube channel. I'm on TikTok. Like, I'm very placed myself in every situation. I can't be right now. So I feel like I'm going hard right now. I'm working. I'm grinding. I'm trying to get to where the top, I'm trying to get to where I can feed the family. When did you go great A start reaching out? They reached out to me about me. But then, um, I thought they was bullshit. So then I didn't
Starting point is 00:30:47 text their ass back. But then when I had, um, got my mind, they reached back out. So, yeah. Why you thought they was on bullshit though? Because, um, the way they was texting, it wasn't, like, It wasn't BB himself. It was somebody else. So it just seemed like somebody playing on my phone. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:03 But then... Like when AP reached out, I texted her as she texted a group, I'm like, who the fuck is this? I thought all that shit was a joke. Like, I didn't... I thought rap was a joke, honestly. You thought rap was a joke? Yeah, like labels and shit, bullshit.
Starting point is 00:31:16 And the labor reaching out to me. You know what I mean? Like, you don't feel like you had enough for a label to reach out. So who the fuck is you playing on my phone? When did labels start actually reaching out to you? In the beginning. In the beginning. Early quick, right?
Starting point is 00:31:26 Yes, when I drop my, once I dropped, before I even dropped the song on YouTube, that shit was on somebody else platform. I had dropped a fucking on the mic and they was reaching out. You know what I mean? So, like, I'm just like, this is bullshit. All right, so when you do get labels reaching out,
Starting point is 00:31:38 who do you go to for like, your opinion? Like, all right, what y'all think about this label? And who you was in them for advice? Then I had got my manager, Kaden. Yeah, my boy, Kana Hudson and shit. So how Kaden find you? Instagram. Where?
Starting point is 00:31:51 So he reached out on IG? Yes. And then what? Y'all, you came? all. So that made sense why you be in? in Hollywood and shit. Because I seen a couple of music videos
Starting point is 00:31:59 and you were spots out here. I'm like, all right. You're kind of close to where some spots that I've seen you. And I'm like, are you got to be in LA a lot? And that was when you was dealing with Kaden. And then I guess
Starting point is 00:32:11 grade A found you and scooted you up. Tight shit. So it would be moving like that. So what made you all? The first deal they offered you was like 15th out, not grade A, but like you got a deal offer for like 15 bands or something like that.
Starting point is 00:32:22 How do you know this? I do my homework? What are you doing? Yeah. Tapped in. Yeah. Like the watch. I got that deal quick and everybody was telling me don't sign.
Starting point is 00:32:31 And you're all instant. You know like, it ain't nothing. That's like shit. Yeah. So then they start talking correct and then you actually went. Yeah. Put pens to the paper.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Yes. Yes, sir. And did that give you like a whole different level of confidence? Yes. Just having like a pretty iconic label or management wanting to work with you. Yeah. Of course. All of a sudden you're in league with a lot of people who are really doing their thing out here.
Starting point is 00:32:55 I got so many guns in the videos. That's with all these fucking machine guns and shit. Yeah, you and Lady Malina got this shit teed up. Why you ain't bring her? She out here in L.A., but she didn't pop up? Which I'll be on. She's sleepy right now. Where?
Starting point is 00:33:12 It is 8 p.m. She's been out. We've been out. And since L.A., we haven't had no stops. Okay. Yeah. Which I'll be all late night doing? Studio.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Studio. After this studio. Do you feel like you can't trust her because she can't make an interview at 8 p.m.? No? That's an issue Gotta be able to depend on your What the fuck This interview
Starting point is 00:33:34 They reached out to me about this interview I didn't even know she was gonna come Oh yeah yeah She wasn't planning to be on yeah Y'all just be kicking it Yeah I just knew she y'all be kicking in So I figured she was gonna be with you type of shit
Starting point is 00:33:45 Usually she would Yeah So where y'all friendship and shit Oh, so where you're all right I just thought y'all grew up again and shit So break that down like you've seen her on Instagram. Yeah, his friends on Instagram for a long time.
Starting point is 00:33:58 She started supporting me like no other, and then I just fucked with her. Is she actually related to Osama bin Laden? No. Oh, no. I don't know who that is. No. That's funny.
Starting point is 00:34:10 That's funny. So y'all, y'all just friends from music and shit, though, because I, because how tight child look, it looked like y'all might have been cousins and shit. So y'all really recently just locked in? Yeah. And who was rapping first? Me.
Starting point is 00:34:22 And then you got hurt. You put her on the rapping and shit, right? Yeah. but that's just thing you don't like weed smells no at all but you're fucking all over that vague I just got I've made a story time about me getting laced that's why I don't like it oh god that's what I was show about to ask you come by they're saying you got laced well you asked you when told people you got laced in L.A no laced a long time ago I stopped smoking I haven't been spoken since I was like 17 but the way you told the story it seemed like you got laced
Starting point is 00:34:50 recently you got to watch the story time laced like your weed had something in it yes like what what do you think it was it was it was you gotta watch the story time you're sending us to a TikTok you're saying fuck this interview go watch my TikTok I'm not sending out to a TikTok I'm sitting out to a YouTube but like I was fucking explained this shit a thousand times but it just went viral
Starting point is 00:35:09 within like the last two three days of yeah yeah yeah about talking about it so suppose you smoke a blend that had K2 in it or some shit yeah in Chicago that's a good shit I'm saying a lot of people smoking out on purpose Blueface smoking out of purpose right now but everybody came under the same type of drugs
Starting point is 00:35:27 yeah yeah yeah so what was the situation where, like, you knew you was late. Like, how to play. Walk us through that day. First of all, that day was, it was cool. Like, everything was cool. It was one of the days when I had to go to work. And then I went to a party with one of my boyfriends at the time.
Starting point is 00:35:43 And then he had one to go get liquor and I was too thirsty to smoke, which I should never been. And then I let somebody roll my blunt and I wasn't in the room. It's so many rare flags I'm saying on myself. But, yeah, I came back, smoked a blunt with him. My job got to lock up. I got to get over high. I got to walk.
Starting point is 00:36:00 can't hit him no more on. That's crazy. That's never happening to me, man. Thank God. Yeah. It was terrible. Taking all these random pills, smoking all these random blunts over the years, and I never really got hit with anything.
Starting point is 00:36:11 That's great. Weird. So that totally turned you off to weed forever. I had smoked again with my mom, and I greened out. Like, it was just like the same type of experience, but it wasn't laced. Like, it was just in regular weed. Do you do other drugs? You're taking pills and shit?
Starting point is 00:36:26 I pop perks. All the time, or like, once in a blue? Once in the blue. Okay. You pop them or you snort them. Ooh. You know, you got the bloodhound. You know everybody saying you're the new bloodhound, little Jeff,
Starting point is 00:36:39 you got the comparisons going on. So I'm trying to figure out how you can see when them perks. I knew you reminded me as somebody. You don't see the tattoo. How do you feel about the Jeff comparisons anyway? It's cool. Yeah, you don't mind it? I mean, he's just like the, he's like a top artist out of Chicago,
Starting point is 00:36:53 so that's what they do to anybody. Like, somebody come behind Chicago, they're going to put you with somebody else. It's just South Chicago. I feel like they compare you to Jeff, and then early on they was comparing you to Star Ben's. Yeah. But they're saying like you're like the more vulgar version of that. I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:37:08 We and her don't rap nothing alike. We don't rap nothing like. We don't look nothing alike. I know she comes off as such like a kid. Yeah. Do you know each other? Mm-mm. You want to do a song with her?
Starting point is 00:37:21 Mm-mm. Why? Different market? No, just like, she's a different, like. I would do a song with her, but like... You're not a girl's girl? No. I'm not saying I would do a song with her, but like, I like big artists and I wouldn't do a song.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Like, I love Clara Lasson. I think that's your name. I love party next door. I love Drake. But I wouldn't do no song with them because I'm not there genre of music. I'm not there at speed. You wouldn't do a song. You don't just do songs to do a fucking song.
Starting point is 00:37:46 You do a song because you and this motherfucker will make a hit. You know what I'm saying? Yes. I think you can make a hit together. Okay. Who do you want to work with? Like, who, who's your go-to? Right now?
Starting point is 00:37:56 Yeah, like. Gee Herbo. Watch your own blood? But that's easy, right? It seemed like that one was going to be the next one, right? Um, I don't know. All right. And house tight shit.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Yeah. Where, all right. Besides you heard of though, like, who else you work with? A lot of people who have died. Like young pappy? Go. Go. Just big goat.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Big goat. Big goat. I feel like, oh, a little O. Can't forget him. Lid double O. I'm fun of him. I feel like me rapper. Like, like, when you hear me rap, it's like,
Starting point is 00:38:28 she's saying something. If you hit me rap and like I rap with like if I rap like if you hear a song and my friends hit a song they'd be like gee why you just say that shit in the song But if a random person hit that song they're gonna be like she's just talking about anything But like when I send the shit to my homie's and shit and my brothers and shit they'd be like but why would you say that shit in the situation? I'd be like nobody's ever gonna know You know what I mean? Yeah So yeah if I Tried to put together a all-star Chicago female song You and three other girls who would you pick three other girls? I
Starting point is 00:38:59 Yeah. From Chicago? Yeah. Female rap? Yeah. Drill? Or just anybody? Sure.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Um, shit. I don't know. Okay. That's probably a tough question. I don't know. All right. There's not a lot of female draughts like me. Well, what about female rappers in Chicago?
Starting point is 00:39:19 There's a lot of female rappers in Chicago. But, like, to put it on a good song, we don't. I can't name three. No cipher. That's not how you all get down. I posted the other day about. you saying that uh because you know you went viral recently but you saying that you you put on you put chicago on the map yes and people was feeling away about you saying that first of all i
Starting point is 00:39:40 feel like what i said in the interview it got clipped wrong it got clipped wrong so first he said like female drill who else do you know that's raping female drill with drake's in a video please pull a video up and tell me that she do a streams she she doing the numbers i'm doing you know what i mean so like when i I say, like putting Chicago on the rap. I want to say, like, I'm fucking... Mellow Bucks. She writes about Duke. Her last...
Starting point is 00:40:04 What was her last song? Move. Move. Move. I'm not doing that. You know what I mean? I'm just saying, I mean, I feel like I've seen some guns in her videos over the years, right? But, like, that's the past her.
Starting point is 00:40:15 She switched her whole dynamic up. Like, she didn't get known for that. She got known for Duke music. Okay. She's hard as fuck with twirking. You know what I mean? She can make a bitch move. Make a bitch get up.
Starting point is 00:40:25 I'm fun of them grab. And she just dropped the... She just dropped the drill song today, though. She got the trailer. Yeah. Yeah. So she getting back in that drill back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:33 But yeah, so I know you've seen some of the comments, people don't shade your way. I've seen some of the female Chicago artist and the comments not feeling that statement that you made. Yeah, a lot of them got on that bitch and went to the studio and said, I'm the real queen jerk. You know what I'm fucking? You know what I mean? But if you doing that, you feel away. And if you're saying that you feel offended by that, that mean I scare you. I'm a competition to you.
Starting point is 00:40:57 But you know, right here. I fuck with that energy, though. You ain't take it back. You're standing on it. Yes. What the fuck? I'm the hardest. What?
Starting point is 00:41:03 Fuck you're talking about. Now I'm the hardest out of the rack. What you're going to say? You know what I mean? Like that's like motherfuckx in the rack. Who the fuck want to be known for saying some shit like that? I'm from a great. Like, y'all lesby tweaking.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Like, I don't know why motherfucking get on it. Like that's like you being in the car with killers and you'd be like, yeah, I'm the one that just don't shoot. You're going to want to be like I'm the top shooter? What the fuck? I mean, there's a long history in rap of rappers coming out and saying that they're the king of their city before they necessarily 100% are recognized as that. And then it ends up basically being that getting a lot of attention. Somebody like T.I. Somebody like Dolf was saying he was the king of Memphis right in that fucking pissed Godia off back in the day.
Starting point is 00:41:45 But like a lot of people kind of get eyeballs on them from saying that at the right time. If you get pissed off in that statement, that means you was intimidated by the person. that said that shit. Mm-hmm. Like, if somebody else got on this bitch and said, I'm the hardest out of Chicago, I'm, yeah, that bitch wrong. Like, I don't be into the tearing motherfuckers down.
Starting point is 00:42:01 So when y'all get on this bitch tearing me down, I'd be looking at y'all sad. It's like, y'all hating that. You know what I mean? Like, that's some hating that shit. That's what I felt like Chicago Hoddy was doing. That's why I said I'm smack. Like, she's a motherfucker that I,
Starting point is 00:42:11 when y'all seen her coming out the rack, I'm like, finally, we got a girl fucking influencer around this bitch. Like, I follow her and everything. Like, Chicago Hollywood? Chicago. I'm like, damn, that's the Chicago. We didn't have influences. She's one of the top influences.
Starting point is 00:42:24 And I'm gonna get her that. She, she was in the right. Motherfuckers know her outside of the rack, you know? She can go to a different city and get known. So when you get on this bitch and like, damn, play the next motherfucker's success. It's like, damn, why you do that? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:42:36 Like, damn, I thought we could all win and get it. It's a lot of money out of her. No, I feel you. So you just felt like she was knowing Shane instead of supporting you? Yeah. Yeah. But she didn't have to support. She could have just shut the fuck up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Yeah. For sure. All right. So besides yourself, who you feel like? you know, put Chicago on the map, though. Lady Bin Laden. Yeah, she's hard as fuck. I like that answer.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Yeah, she's top dog. Bitch bigger than me. She's right way better than me. Is it weird being compared to Jeff so much? Does it make you ever want to just go get some hats? Steve, you hungry again? Because I'm definitely hungry. I mean, those are big shoes to fill.
Starting point is 00:43:17 What the fuck? Being compared to a boy is just like, I'm not a boy, okay? I've never came out to portray him. I've had a hand tag for fucking two years. All right, because, all right, yeah, that's the main thing. Yeah. Hand tab, people always say that. I've had a hand tap for two years.
Starting point is 00:43:31 I think he's been right before a year. So you had that before Jeff had this? I don't know where he had is. Yeah, all right. You never hung out with him? No. You never met him? No.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Do you hang out with that? I don't believe that answer right there. What was that? No. Too many bad at odds, though. No. All right, but you got like bashful. You was around.
Starting point is 00:43:49 No. No. No. He wasn't around school? No. I'm not. What the fuck? I'm gonna let you rock out.
Starting point is 00:43:57 I'm gonna let you rock out. You're like friends with like a bunch of girls who've been around them and all that shit. No. No? You never been around a Q50? Who signed to the same label as you? We did a show together.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Ooh. Okay. We was in the same building. Would you do some music? Would you do some music Q50? What Q50 do some music with me? I don't know. That's what I'm asking.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Like, I don't know. As you don't fuck with the ops, probably. In Chicago, everybody fuck with somebody else. All right. So how do you choose? like, all right, you fuck with Great A, you know what I'm saying? Do you feel like you have to take on whoever they might be opts with? No.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Oh, yeah, you don't go into a situation like that? Yeah. You don't go into the situation like that, right? That's like seeing I'm no limit and I'm from essence. Yeah. And I'm stepping on niggas that say fuck asses. You know what I mean? Like, there's just some dick rat shit.
Starting point is 00:44:44 You know? So when you sign the Great A, they don't like give you a list of people that you're not allowed to fuck with anymore? No, they don't do that. Okay. That's very mature of them. When you put people in an interview, dude, never mind. well sometimes you know when people join the podcast they might kind of have to understand and now you don't get to fuck with so-and-so man fuck them natives yeah well that's one way to look at it
Starting point is 00:45:05 yeah mTO um okay but um you got shot at at at you know how about i got shot at yeah all right so what's it like you know being a young chick getting shot at and shit in Chicago like every day was doing Yeah. That day was blank. It was just like a, I'm alive. But don't, don't, don't make you, because, you made the smart decision of like, you know what, I'm from Chicago, but I got some money.
Starting point is 00:45:35 I'm gonna move out this motherfucker. I heard you said that in multiple interviews. Yeah, you advised people to leave Chicago. Yeah, leave Chicago, especially if you got to be, you know what I mean? But like, like, how we was just saying, um, I don't want to say their name. But like some people, like Chance the Rapper, you don't gotta leave Chicago. We could say their name, we're gonna say it, but like, you said, like, recently you just driving past the Mary's store.
Starting point is 00:45:55 We ain't going to say the name, but you seen somebody lacking outside of the marriage story that's a well-known Chicago rubber. Yeah. So how often is it where you might be riding around? You ain't gonna lie. I've seen so many motherfuckers. Like, before I got caught, I've seen so many motherfuckers like just dangling. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:12 He was just outside. He's just outside. He's right on that block right there. I mean, if you're popping up somewhere quickly and randomly, it's like a lot of times people will feel safe doing that. I get people saying that to me a lot of times. Like, whoa, you're like, here just by yourself.
Starting point is 00:46:26 I'm like, I just popped up on a beer for 10 minutes and I'm going to leave. And it's just like... But you could die in that 10 minutes. Yeah, but it's pretty unlikely, right? No, it's not unlikely in Chicago. You see how Duck he was just going to give him some clothes? Yeah. And his man said that morning, it's probably like, I'm going to go shopping and leave.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Yeah, but he wasn't thinking about the fact they had them lines outside. If they didn't have them lines outside and he just walked his ass up in there, then the other dude wouldn't have seen him standing out there and it probably wouldn't have gone down like that. So it's really like just like COVID shit is really what kind of led to that happening, which is actually insane to think about. Nobody think they fin a dad when they're going to die. To be fair, like Duck, a very dangerous, wanted individual realistically. You know, him standing out there is kind of crazy.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Yeah. That's him taking like sort of a significant risk. Yeah. But, um, so you dropped out of school? When? Yeah. Um, I dropped out like my sophomore junior year. Because of this rap shit or what?
Starting point is 00:47:22 No, no. No. Like I said, my parents, my mom had got evicted. I had to get a job. Uh-huh. Yeah. Oh, okay. We talked about that, right?
Starting point is 00:47:30 Yeah. Damn. Will you ever go back and get your GED? Yes. You're thinking about it? No, I am. When I go back home, I go get, I pick up my transcripts. Oh, you do?
Starting point is 00:47:41 Yeah. Oh, where, so you're on top of it? Yeah, I was doing good at school. Like, I went to Musial color prep. I had A's and Bs. Like, I went even a C type of bitch, you know? Can't see me? But I was real good.
Starting point is 00:47:52 school like she's just in jail you I write notes study I was a type of rich I want to go to college I want to be a lawyer yeah or I can't argue about it down yeah rap ain't go last forever got to figure out something else but you're gonna be awesome end by then you probably ain't gonna be a lawyer by then right it could be a fun trait just a side hustle came back and she went back and did it
Starting point is 00:48:16 yeah didn't she like not pass the test though all right not too much on my girl that's what I'm just saying I think she finally did the bar She did it, right? She probably did. I think you're going to take it so many times, though. Yeah, she passed it, though, I think. Eventually, you'll just get it right by accident.
Starting point is 00:48:30 What's your relationship like with Big Jada? Big Shark can't pretty. None of these bro-niggas game with it. She teed up out of here. Yeah, she was lit. I fucked with her. That's my girl. Yeah, so y'all got cool.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Y'all got a working relationship, right? Yeah. What about all, you know, because when you said the queen of drill, you know, people be calling you the new queen of drill and shit. What do you think about Katie got bands? Would you ever listen to her music coming up? Because she like, she was like, She was like one of the first people that we seen for Chicago.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Yeah. Legend. Like how much influence or did she have any on you? Yeah. She's a class clown. She got contact on. Yeah, stop smoking that shit. But not she cool.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You do a song with her? I don't listen to her music. Yeah. You feel like you might have. I don't think she still rap.
Starting point is 00:49:21 I mean, I ain't heard her in a minute, but I think she probably still. When you rap, you rap forever for the most part, right? Yeah. Not everybody, but not everybody. You got love for. Let's go out. Look for I had disappeared on the motherfucker. What are you at for?
Starting point is 00:49:34 Yeah, what happened to him? Yeah, where you at, bro? Then you can get Bibby to drop some music? I got some unreleased, baby. Whoa, really? Him actually rapping or he gave you like a verse that he already had? Like, he's still rapping. From 2013.
Starting point is 00:49:46 No, it was a minute ago. Wait, right, right. Whoa. So, Bibby will just get in the studio and just not drop it? No, I don't think he gets in the studio. I think that was just an old song. Oh. Like his last songs that he did.
Starting point is 00:49:58 he sent them to me. That'd be crazy. I feel like it would be hard for him to not have people document him rapping. Like everybody would just be Snapchat and that shit. He too rich out of him, man. He ain't even trying to get back in the studio. Yeah, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:50:10 You feel like you might have ADD? ADHD? Yeah. You think I got ADHD? Yeah. It seems like you kind of have a hard. And I think you got calmness. Disease.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Fuck you talking about. Roasted. The jerk store called. They're running out of you. Why does you spit when you talk? That is one from to be one of the one. Yo, she got roast. Yo.
Starting point is 00:50:38 You talk with a lot of spit. Like, I can just see it like. I've been doing porn all day. Porn? You do porn. X, X, X, porn? I've never seen you on air. Well, you got to dig a little deeper.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Maybe if you're in Game Bang. You in Game Bang category? Here and there. I watch Game Bang. Are you serious? Nick, I don't see you. You're wet. I'm actually doing my first gang bang soon.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Oh, yo dig little. It's all right. Above average. Do they be moaning? Sometimes. They be faking. I don't know. They're faking it.
Starting point is 00:51:12 I don't know. They're faking it. But, no, seriously. You think you have ADHD. Because, like, you just seem like you kind of have a hard time. Like, and you're very charming. I think you're going to go very far in the music game. But you seem like you kind of have a hard time.
Starting point is 00:51:27 zeroing in on the conversation like you sort of get bored you start twiddling your thumbs thinking about something else so what you're trying to say my interview ass? No no no I think this interview is great I just think it's
Starting point is 00:51:36 you're kind of like amusing to me because you're sort of like just floating off into space at times like it seems like you're just kind of in another world here and there and it was why yeah I got it's not wrong with it yeah it's a little hard to
Starting point is 00:51:49 I be trying fuck you're new to this you're young yeah when I was young I was fucking if people were interviewing me when I was 19 or whatever the fuck you are shit whatever fuck you are nigga put some respect on this age fuck what you're talking about are you 19 no
Starting point is 00:52:02 15 yeah shut the fuck up that's great shit out of here hey do the do the a laugh you ready I'm not no nigga I'm gonna be saying you're 15 I'm not put my tongue out for anything but you put your tongue out for that porn shit huh
Starting point is 00:52:17 yeah I mean that's during consenting adults they can y'all write papers when y'all do that shit yep um ever got never man that's 4 Play sign here. Make a consent video. I would love to be a videographer one day for one of those.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Yeah. You might not have the stomach for it. You got to see some wild stuff, some smells. Sometimes they'd be smelling shit. If I ever hit something in this thing on front of grave, get your stanking ass up. What was that? Yo, this chick's crazy, bro.
Starting point is 00:52:57 You're going to, far. Oh. You're going up for sure. No, I see. I see it though for show. Because this is very amusing. You got the,
Starting point is 00:53:05 you got the personality to draw the music for show. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. I got to get naked niggas and shit. How'd that be going on? I don't have an Instagram. So all my little hoes. Which are I alone. Texas new page.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Now, I'm being a great girl. I'm not dating. I'm not seeing. I'm not talking to nobody. You're focused on your career. Yes. There's probably like 15 dudes like, hell no.
Starting point is 00:53:25 She's lying. Yeah, I can say that. But you can't get in. No, I mean, because they're like hanging out with you in the real world. No, no dudes. No dudes. No more dudes. No more dudes. Respect.
Starting point is 00:53:36 Yeah, that's only going to slow you down. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if I believe that. In reality, if you meet a great guy, you should try to form a relationship. But, you know, I'm so young. It's love out there one day. Yeah, you got plenty of time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Anything that's happening in your life at this point that might seem extremely important, there's a pretty good chance. It's not really that big deal. And you shouldn't sweat it. So I always try to keep that in mind. Yeah. Life advice with Adam 22 and Remo. What's your relationship?
Starting point is 00:54:04 This is like to promote himself? DJ Holiday. Swamp is a Jet Tool Holiday. Hey, so what's your relationship with Mello Bucks though? Because y'all got music and shit, don't it? Yeah, she's cool. Was that like a label thing or y'all just like, hey, let's, you hit her up and you like, hey, let's do it. She hit me up and it was cool.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Yeah. Got it clear. Got the video done. Shot it. dropped it. Cool. Wally bag, bitch. You feel like there's a lot of competition
Starting point is 00:54:32 because, you know, there's a whole bunch of females emerging from Chicago. Like, is it competitive or y'all want to see, like some of y'all seem like it's competitive and it seemed like some of y'all... I mean to see everybody win.
Starting point is 00:54:41 It seemed like that from you, though, for sure. It seemed like you genuine... Yeah, I want to see everybody win because I ain't going to lie. Being, like, when I go back home and I finally go back home and I get off that flight
Starting point is 00:54:51 and I touch back at my house and I see where I live at and I see everybody else living right here. I don't want none of them living right though. I don't want none of them doing what they got to do to make a living. That shit hard. That shit is stressful. That shit is depression. Don't nobody, I don't want to see nobody down. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:07 I don't want to see nobody down. Don't know. Don't nobody deserve to be down in life. I feel like everybody should just get it when they get born. You know what I mean? Like, there's no competition with me. You hard, I'm hard. Let's be hard. But are you like opening, like, are you doing,
Starting point is 00:55:22 reaching out to collab with people? Or you like, nah, I ain't for them. I don't reach out. but I like a pitcher I like a picture I like two pictures But why are you gonna reach out You feel like you too good to do that
Starting point is 00:55:33 Or you know sometimes I really feel like I was a nobody So you're just starting to get used to people Wanting to talk to you Yeah I don't be thinking nobody Want to see me in a fucking DMs Talking about hey you want to do a song Sound like a dick rider
Starting point is 00:55:45 Or don't read my message Because then one day you're gonna be for them They're gonna use it against you Yeah I know motherfuck to be like You want to feature Bitch you ask for a feature ain't get Now you make a dish
Starting point is 00:55:54 You're dumb ass Yeah Yeah, so you stay away from that I get it. That's what I. Definitely. Oh, Bougar de G, I got to bring this up. He was like, man, you front your shit.
Starting point is 00:56:03 You don't really be on shit. If I'm from my shit, I don't really be on shit. Why the fuck you make a whole song about me? If I ain't really on shit, you should have just let me be a bitch and one about you day. You know I'm her. That's why you made a song about me because you know I'm her. Shout out, Bukadji, we're going to have to give him over here
Starting point is 00:56:18 because you know Tate, you know Tate Savage? Mm-mm. Oh, word. That's Tate, a little homie. Yeah. Yeah, a little homie. So when people say that you're not really about that life and that you, you know, are basically just like faking this whole gangster persona. How do you feel about that? What's your response to that?
Starting point is 00:56:34 If you think I'm faking that shit, if I'm not like that, if I'm just, if I don't think motherfuck like that, I'll leave their ass with a yes. Just don't pay their ass no man. You know what I mean? Okay. How do you, how do you, like, because you've seen a mellow buck situation where I guess, you know, the party. And when you see situations going on like that, do that make you change mentally? like I, maybe I don't need to be doing some of these dissing songs and shit. Like, maybe I'm going to fall back from some of that.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Dissing songs? Yeah, but you be dissing a lot and shit. You know and everything, like, man, all right, let me chill a little bit. Or like... Or do you have anybody in your corner that's telling you to chill, like, like, slow down? People tell me there, but I'm going to do what I want to do. Yeah. But who's the person that you listen to that can get you to chill?
Starting point is 00:57:21 My brother. Word. Yeah. My brother. When you get your brother called here, make you chill out a little bit, you're like, I'm doing too much. Yeah, he'll probably be like, you're tweaking. You're tweaking. I got to go clap shit because you want to be tweaked.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Oh, he'd be clapping shit? Oh, like, he claps. Yeah. Three times. How old's your brother? He's, I don't know, 23. He got to be in early 20s, late 20s, like mid-20s. How's he feel about you getting all this attention?
Starting point is 00:57:52 Proud of you, says, go up. Overprotected, though? Like, he. No. I don't really talk to them that much. I don't talk to nobody, really. Here and there. Why do you not have an Instagram?
Starting point is 00:58:03 They banned it. Because I tell somebody I'm going to kill them. What? So now you got to start from scratch? And why are you on there tweet and telling people you're going to kill them anyway? Because I've seen that. Yeah, what is that? Man, because them niggas is playing with me.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Like, they just be playing with me, and I be getting mad. So, go kill your ass. How many Instagram are you going to have? This is your second and third? Third. you got to learn to like speaking code you got to like do like a knife emoji gun emoji you can't write I'm gonna kill you what is that like a little little dance you've been working with
Starting point is 00:58:41 cool TikTok dance I didn't see that one yet they're gonna say you know the McDonald girls be crazy you seen the other little McDonald's shit that just went crazy what McDonald's shit for McDonald's that killed her boss she went and styled them up? You didn't see that? No. You'll go do your homework on it,
Starting point is 00:59:00 but you was just whaling out. Oh, hell no. So what's it like being a kid girl? Kid girl? Mm-hmm. Kid girl? What the fuck? Kid or Kia?
Starting point is 00:59:11 A Kia girl. I don't know fucking Kia girl. I write. S.R.T. Derango. Hellcat. Bitch. I'm laid up.
Starting point is 00:59:17 Ah. Ah. You were a kid? You like doing that shit. I'm doing. You were a kid girl? No. No.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Never? I learned how to drive a car with a Kia. My grandma has a Kia. A stolen Kia? She pays a note, I think. Oh, okay. See, you're funny. You fuck with Nikki Minaj?
Starting point is 00:59:42 Preston of a Barbie. Yeah. You fuck with all this crashing out she's been doing? No, I haven't been seeing Nikki. You don't look at Twitter? No, I fucking took my Twitter, too. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Twitter's hard to lose. You got to be wilding on Twitter. You gotta really go crazy. You post a butthole. you won't even get banned on Twitter. What the hell you lose your Twitter? I'm not even going to say why I lost my Twitter. Murder threats.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Even that, I don't think it's you banned on there. Yeah, you got to do some shit on there. Yeah, you really got to do some shit on Twitter. You know, I know manned girls who got banned on Twitter because they put like nudity in their, in their header banner. That's how they get you. You can't put any kind of nudity up there, which I'm sure you wouldn't anyway, but, you know.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Okay. Anything else we should hit here? Oh, fully chop or a little speedy? You're trying to be fucking funny? This is a question. Who do you prefer? Man, fuck Speedy. Oh, shit, all right.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Fully chop. Next? Why don't you like Speedy? Little bitch said, fuck me. Fuck you. Little Dreigh head, bitch. How you feel about the, you know, they're saying them niggas, the new Y-N.
Starting point is 01:01:03 I wish I be calling yourself the YBs. I don't call myself shit. So where that turn came from? I don't know. People came with the... Somebody called me that. And I was like, what the fun of me? It was like,
Starting point is 01:01:13 YBs, young bitches. I... What the fuck? Or young boys. Young bitches. Right. Y-Hs. White.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Younghows. You know, Jewish. Just an old man. An old head. I'm an unc. You got kids. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:35 You want to see? No, I don't want to see them. Oh, way, she's so fucking cute. Don't touch. She's not for the net. Why would I show your baby? They might get your baby. You know what you're saying on there?
Starting point is 01:01:50 It's okay. I got defensive for a second. I just want to see her blue eyes. That's what I want to do with you see. Right? Yes. Yeah, baby, my fan as fuck, ain't she? You just met her.
Starting point is 01:02:01 You even get no Donald Trump clip on me. What the fuck is it down the Trump clip? You never seen that clip of him talking about how hot his daughter is? Okay, he's a little weird, but... He's a little weird. Your daughter's beautiful. Thank you. Appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:02:18 I wish you thought some of the current rap scene in Chicago right now. Curve rap scene? The current rap scene. The curvy reps. Like the fat rappers. Current rap scene that bitch hard. Yeah. Who you feel like got it right now?
Starting point is 01:02:28 Um... Who I feel like at the rest? Besides you and Lady Milada, we know y'all got it. But besides y'all, who else got it? Fesso hard, Scruly hard, Vaughn off 1700 hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Top three listeners. All right, before we get up out of here, I got to ask you this. Who would you put on the Mount Rushmore or Chicago drill music? YFG Fesso, young pappy, Lofo,
Starting point is 01:02:54 Chief Keith. That's hard. That's a different list. Yeah. She's from a different era. Yeah, I forward it, though. Yeah. You'll say King Vaughn?
Starting point is 01:03:04 Oh, damn. I don't really listen to him like that. Was it a little dirk? Not like that. Okay. I listen to Dirk, though, like, some vibe shit. When I used to get high, hell, yeah. Then you got to spin?
Starting point is 01:03:14 Spin. Dirk don't even be talking about killing shit in his songs. I was talking about Bond, but. Oh, yeah. And yes, he does. You're just not listening to the right songs. No, it's like, it's like mellow tone. It's like screwly shit.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Like, he don't even sound like he's talking about killing me. Yeah. It's not enough of a warrior. Yeah. It's not bloody enough. I need some drill, drill. I used to go to school, walking to school. I'm listening.
Starting point is 01:03:36 a little foe for the catch a nigga oof yeah wow okay that's how club I'm surety probably one of the craziest interviews I ever done I can't wait this too if people say about this I've done a lot of interviews stop fucking lying I know but you're a very interesting person nah you see it up for show yeah I see it
Starting point is 01:03:49 rah gras see like what the fuck is that okay and what is this picture of you on the back of your phone that's my pretty ass mug shop oh is that like your passport photo no it's my pretty ass mug shot
Starting point is 01:04:04 oh it's a mugshot That's when you're getting locked up in LA No, no, this is actually an ID picture. I just called it. That's what I was thinking. I'm like it looks like a fucking... But you did say you got locked up in LA though, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:12 You did you get locked up in LA? Man, I was trying to steal. I was with somebody that was stealing. Wait, really? Yeah. What was it stealing? Some target and shit. Some baby food and shit.
Starting point is 01:04:22 They were stealing out the target and they arrested you, even though you weren't stealing? I was with them. So what? That's why I got let off. If me and him... Oh, you got let out? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:31 But they still took it to jail? It's L.A. I was in Orange County. If me and him walk into Target and he shoplift something, and they are not arresting me. You're white as fuck with blue eyes. No, I'm just a human being that didn't steal something. Why the fuck would they arrest me?
Starting point is 01:04:43 To be honest, I wouldn't even attack you. My fuck, got to let you put you down with some hot shit. Listen, it's tough to get arrested in L.A. You can really while out. You're not in the right. See, when I was in L.A., I'm with them niggas. So, like, I'm seeing, I'm seeing police in the hood. They're not playing.
Starting point is 01:05:00 They stop and shit. What hood's out of here are you hanging out? whew what the fuck that shit was it was like some dude it looked like oblock it looked like the gardens now you said you know bounty hunting hunters all type of shit yeah do you been in the niggerson gardens yes i think that's what it's called really wow yeah who took you there well i support this you should go to all the hoods yep i got to introduce you to o gumbi oh gumbi yeah he sound like he probably gumbo some shit you follow ebk j bowl yeah my boy i fought with ebk label
Starting point is 01:05:34 I fuck with Stockton. Oh shit, really? That's cool. Yeah. I got a song with Lebo. Really? Yeah. We got to get him up here, man.
Starting point is 01:05:42 What the fuck? Yeah, you got to get Lebo on. We got to embrace all the... Yeah, because, like, who knows what we're going to have? Jaybo out again. Yeah. Free Jaybo. We got to fuck with Pig.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Where you became pig at? It's not fucking playing with him. Why? Oh, yeah, Leboebo, show his ass on. My fucking need to put you in that box. How did I just play with him? I just said his name. Okay, bro.
Starting point is 01:06:03 I mean, his name is pig. That's like, kind of fun. Are there his name? Yeah. Oh, you're thinking that I'm just saying it? Yeah. No, no, you're on all that shit. Okay, Aspen, Cartier.
Starting point is 01:06:15 You ever been to Aspen? No. I'm going to work on that. Yeah. Wanting these guys out here. Q50, take her on a trip. This nigga just threw quick. Shout out Q50.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Shout out of everybody, man. Take her to Aspen. You for sure again put in a bar if you take her to Aspen. Or do you buy her a Cardiardier. watch or AP future cell all this shit's got AP if Remo if Rima buys you a Cardier watch you're gonna put them in a bar I got a lot of different ideas you can run
Starting point is 01:06:48 Remo with chemo man what the fuck is you talking about you just over that chit-chan like get your frat ass on that weed and got to your head stop smoking that shit Remo therapy let me get the fuck up out of here okay you can rhyme chemotherapy with Rimo therapy shout to people that I got chemo
Starting point is 01:07:04 free y'all free all from cancer shout out to Rimo shout out of Aspen Cardier, we burn in the midnight oil. Shout out to Donnie on the boards. I'm skiing for this shit to drop out.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Shout out. Shout out Steve. Cannon in the motherfucking building, man. Steve, we have to go. Yep. Yeah. Where are you going? The airport.
Starting point is 01:07:23 The airport. You going back now? She's my friend's going to leave. I have to go to the... Shout out Lady Bin Laden. Yeah, shout out to her. Shout out Osama Bin Laden. All right.
Starting point is 01:07:31 Appreciate you. What the fuck? Did you just shout a downplay Lady Bin Laden with Osama? No, I'm just showing out her OG.

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