No Jumper - Aubrey O'Day Tells All! Diddy's Abuse, Her Affair with Donald Trump Jr, Doing Onlyfans & More

Episode Date: February 9, 2024

Aubrey O'Day candidly shares about her rise in the industry, Danity Kane, Diddy, her journey to wellness, her OnlyFans, and more. Go to https://tryfum.com/NOJUMPER10 and use code NOJUMPER10 to save an additional 10% off your order today. ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's that? Is that a real Phil's coffee? Oh. Tell me about Phil's coffee. It's such a choice. Every morning, I just, uh, postmates it to the crib. But is it good? I can love it, yeah. What, what makes it so good? I don't know.

It's just got such a weird name. Is it with a Z? Is it like Philly or is it like a random weirdo that just wanted their name to be on the coffee? You know, I have been to their website and looked at their origin story before, but I can't really remember. You shut the f***. Have you really? Yeah. I love that about you.

I've ordered it like hundreds of times. I wanted to figure out what's going on? Why does it have a Z? It's not like, what is the people that they say they just put powder? Instant coffee? No, the company that actually has just like cans of powder that they put hot water in. Coffee bean. That's what coffee bean does?

Yes. Like the vanilla latte is a powder formula that they put water in. I did used to live next to a coffee bean. It tastes like it too. It sucks, right? Yeah, sucks. In my opinion, but I could see why there are people that really like it. because you could get, it tastes like McDonald's.

Sugar, sugar and sugar. I haven't spent a lot of time drinking McDonald's coffee in my life. I'm not talking about the coffee. I've never had a McDonald's coffee. I think I'd murder myself before I'd have a McDonald's coffee. Just like, it tastes like McDonald's as a whole, all of their products? Like, just in general, you know how you feel heavy after you eat there? Yeah.

Like, you don't feel light. You feel like you need to take a nap. Every once in a while, I'll still hit a McDonald's. I like the fries. they're very salty when you need salt. That's true. Yeah. No, definitely.

Why did my girl buy some, uh, my girl bought some rich crackers that don't have salt on them? Horrible. It's such a tease. But imagine like a wheat thin without salt. That's like the devil. You want to just talk about crackers? I love wheat thins.

I love wheat thins too, but imagine a wheat thin without salt. Ugh, yeah. Nasty. A cracker is really just a salt can do it. Yeah, but a trisket has like the most. It has the most crunch, but babe, imagine all that crunch with no flavor. That's horrific. Hey, guys, you don't have like a soda or something with a little, like, caffeine or anything in it, do you?

Phil's coffee? Yeah. Thanks for getting me a coffee. Oh, man. You're not sharing Phil's with anybody. My wife was supposed to be here. I know. I heard she's sick and heard she's a girl's girl.

So I'm sad. I didn't get a meet her. She's, like, deathly sick. She's been. COVID-y. Not actually death, but like, she's had this crazy, uh, fever. slash flu thing going on for like four days now. COVID?

It's not COVID, I guess. She took multiple tests. Damn. I know. Did she go to the doctor? No. Okay, well, you probably should take her to the doctor if she's not feeling good tomorrow.

I've just been coming into work. I'm not taking her anywhere. You're like, I will spread this to every single one of you. She did not. No, I've been sleeping in my kids' room and shit. I just has my phone in it and I need to use my phone. I've been staying away from all of the humans. Me too.

I don't like the humans. I'm not a lot of. space. Really? Yeah. So where do you go? What do you do? Nothing. For the past three months, I've been inside my home. I don't leave. I'm too scared. Really? So we all watch these. Okay, do you really want me to, like, go in. You said, like, let's talk about some relationship stuff or something kind of light before we get into some crazy shit. I'm sorry, Kirkland, cold brew coffee, 100% Colombian. Do you really think that I'm going to drink this, sir? Can we get a zoom in on whatever the, this is? What's wrong with Kirkland?

That's Costco's brand. Babe, I'm scared of this. Okay, I'm going to actually, I'm going to do it. I'm going to test taste it on camera live right now. 15 calories. You can't go wrong. I don't care about the calories. I care about the taste.

Oh, hell no. Really? I've sampled this a few times. That tastes like a coffee bean that you just jumped on and then put some sewer water with. Damn, we're slender and all kinds of coffee brands now. I'm so sorry. I thank God you can't smell my breath. That's a lot of caffeine, though.

That's going to have you rolling. Oh, I don't need any caffeine, trust me. Um, okay. So the, so many ways to go here. So many ways. Why don't we just start off with the like fun topic first? Like coffee and crackers. What do you do on only fans anyway?

When do you make that decision? Sure. Let's start there. So I moved to Bali during COVID. I really was at a point where, you know, I don't know if you know like much about me, but I like kind of been intertwined with all of the like really powerful people that kind of run the world right now in one way or another across the board. One of them was Don Trump Jr. Right.

And I just knew too much. And when they took over and then COVID and then being stuck in this, you know, it kind of felt like we were all being, we were stuck in a cycle. And I saw what was happening and what was really behind it all. And I know the intentions of the players versus the way the world was in terms. interpreting it. I saw how everybody was taking the cues to be divisive because that's what they do when they need to get money from here and go there without anyone looking. And I saw how people were utilizing those divisive tactics as an identity and a bunch of other very deep intellectual things that were spinning me in a place that was so unhealthy. And I needed to completely like, I needed to detach. I've been a public figure celebrity. whatever, since I was like 17. So I needed to detach. I found myself in Bali for a very random reason.

I went there by myself. And Bali just happens to be a place where, you know, there's no internet. There's no TVs, really. There's no billboards. There's no entertainment industry. It's just all about healing and wellness. So I didn't ever have to worry about anything. I didn't have to be anyone.

I didn't have to explain. Nobody cared who I was, knew who I was, or, wanted to talk about it. And then any time that I opened up and shared something, instead of putting a mic under my face or chopping it up in the edit so they can get more likes or doing whatever has been done with my story for the past 30, oh, God, no, over 20 years. I've been in the entertainment industry. I'll say that.

They just put their hand on your heart and they say, thank you for sharing that with me. I really respect and value and appreciate your story. So your whole adult life, you've basically been having every lived experience turned into content, turned into gossip, turned into media fodder. And then you go... Before people started faking it for a living. Right. But wait. So the world shut down and then you went to Bali or you went to Bali and then the world shut down.

So you kind of got stuck there. No, I was on the last flight that they allowed into Bali because Bali was a red zone. Really? Yeah. There was like three people on the flight and everyone was looking at. at us like you are crazy for going to a red zone. And America made us all fear the red zones. Remember when there were colors on all the different areas internationally? Yeah, yeah. And Bali was a red zone. And Indonesia was a red zone. And I never met one person

with COVID. And I did Beacrum every day, which is like 30, 40 people in a room, breathing each other's air very heavily. Is that like a hot yoga thing where it's all trapped in there? Yeah, trapped. And the first couple times, I mean, there are no locks on any doors in Bali. So like for my first three months, I was just dead paranoid that I would get shot, raped, stabbed, whatever. I had all these thoughts in my head constantly. And the first time I had a good sleep, I woke up and I thought, I have been so trained by America like America has groomed me. That's a level of grooming that I hadn't even understood until I lived in another country. How groomed I was to understand violence and protect myself from it. Shit, I signed something

before I walked in here that said I wasn't carrying. This is a fucking podcast. To her, this is like hard to believe to us. I literally wrote, it seems totally understandable. And I was like, I'll leave my Glock in my glam room. Like, damn, I'm so sad I couldn't bring my Glock or whatever it's called. I had to literally look it up because I spelled it wrong. I'm just letting you know.

Glock? Yeah. C-K. Yeah, I didn't know. I just put GOL-L-K. Like, what do I know about guns? Right. Yeah, once you get close to the rap stuff, there's a lot more.

Oh, I've been close to the rap stuff. I've seen all of them. I just don't know what they're called. I've seen lots of colors and flavors. I get it. Who's the most dangerous rapper you spent a bunch of time around besides the obvious? Yeah, I mean, let's just go with the obvious. Diddy?

Okay. I've been around people that are assumed to be very dangerous people. Like, let's say Shug Night. I enjoyed him. He was great to me. Okay. Yeah. He wasn't in business with you?

No, he wasn't in business with you. me and he didn't try to hit on me. He just really flicked with me as a person and wanted to hang out. Yeah. Was that a chime? It was. Let me turn that off. That's so goddamn disrespectful. I'm just so sorry. That's crazy. You were worried I was going to bring a Glock and you're scared of a beep. Good God.

We give the same release form to everyone. I understand. I'm teasing you. That's okay. Wait, wait, just she sees the video of the person who ran up into the podcast room and put a gun in my I did, oh, that was you? Yeah. Oh, I actually did see a video where a gun was pulled out, but then it wasn't it, it was just a fake viral thing?

It ended up being, well, the gun ended up being fake, but we didn't have any clue. It wasn't like an inside job. I thought you guys, like, planned it all to be viral, and I was like, that's so embarrassing and silly. And I've been in rooms where guns were rolled up on it in that exact way that I watched the viral clip. And I just was like, why would anyone want to fake something like that? It's a horrific experience to be a part of for, to get likes, but no disrespect.

I understand that's the world we live and now here. For the record, it was, from our perspective, it was real. Okay. Although a ton of people thought that it was fake. But for us, we were, we were, I mean, we beat the dog shit of this. We almost killed them. Okay, so that's why you guys have that. Because I've done other podcasts and I never had leave your gun at home that I signed.

Yeah, you should start with more hip-hop podcasts. It's a whole thing over here. You know they're not going to fuck with me, and not especially after today. Well, I don't know how much love did he really gets from the hip-hop world at this point. Let's talk about that. I mean, Charlemagne and Joe Budden kept their mouths super silent, and they're literally famous for being gossip. I know, they're scary. Slash.

They're scared. Well, they're scared. There you go. I'm just keeping a hip-hop. But, okay, that definitely has been a crazy thing to witness. Okay, let me ask you this. You were 17 when you got into the making the band process and everything. Yeah.

What kind of person were you, or what kind of kid were you that you were going after that? opportunity of being on reality TV and getting into all this type of stuff so early on. So reality TV wasn't a thing then. Right. There was no music reality competition. This was before American Idol. There was a season prior to mine. I did not watch it.

It was a dub band. I watched that. Everybody famously remembers the cheesecake situation or something that happened. But I did not watch that. But I was in starting out in college, I was going to go to Los Angeles. school. I wanted to be an entertainment attorney or potentially some type of an attorney that works internationally with refugees. I was playing back and forth with it. I come from a family of lawyers. So I was always in music. I was always on stage. But I thought once it was time to get serious that I

needed a serious job. But truly, I don't believe I ever was meant to go that route. My mom, who is a lawyer, sent me the audition and was like, you know, you're getting ready to, go to law school and I'm a lawyer, there's a glass ceiling, you're going to have a miserable life and you're far too creative for this. I didn't have half the talent you do.

And I just saw this audition on the cover of the Desert Sun, which was our local newspaper in the desert, Palm Springs. So it said Diddy was looking for a girl that could sing like Christina and dance like Brittany

and he wanted to make an international superstar girl group. And that's exactly what he did. I told my mom, no, that's stupid. And I went to school that day. And I was waiting for a boy that I liked to give me a ride. And he ended up, I asked him, could he give me a ride? And he ended up having to work. And so I was like, I'm just going to go to class. It's not meant for me moving on. But that night, I had had a dream that I was performing on stage. And I just barely remember bits, but, like, I was touching people's hands. They were screaming and crying and, like, touching my hands back. And I was singing. So I had a thought that morning to maybe go do

what my mom had sent me. But the boy I was talking to couldn't take me. And then randomly he got it off work. And he picked me up from my way walking to my polyside class and drove me out to L.A. And I auditioned for this band and my life changed overnight. And reality TV wasn't a thing. I had no idea what to expect. I remember being back at home walking into a Ralph's the day the first like commercial aired.

And like 16 people in the aisle dropped their baskets of food and shit went flying. They were like, you're Aubrey O' day. And I was like, no idea what the fuck was going on. Right. I mean, that was before it was like, and now you see reality TV stars everywhere. Everybody's a fucking reality TV star with TikTok. Very, very few rise to the point of having the kind of fame that you would have from just being on an MTV reality show at that point. I don't know.

I mean, and tell me if you can name them, even you probably because you might have more knowledge. I don't know that there's any one that's been in reality TV as long as me on a television show. every year pretty much, year or every other year since I was in my teens, up until now and I'm almost turning 40. Right. I've been on so many shows. It's insane.

So what's your perspective on it now? You think it's just like unbelievably lame and corny? Or is it something that you hold close to your heart? I think the whole new generation is unbelievably lame and corny. Sorry, it's not their fault. They're being fed the new, the information. And they're being told that they can be something. And meanwhile, China's collecting all their data

and it's going to control who wins the election this year. And it's very problematic. That's true. And we need to definitely figure out how to create some legislation that at least creates these types of apps and programs that are going to promote being famous and allow you the opportunity to gain an audience to at least being made in America

so that we're not having our data stolen or misused in any type of way to hurt us. in the international scheme. Definitely. So, okay, you joined Danny Kane and, like, I myself watched, like, an hour plus of YouTube documentaries last night about the whole rise and how it all came together

and the different characters and everything. Sway's rise and fall? Was that it? Was Sway doing it? Some woman just reading into the camera talking about it. I don't know. But what was your relationship like with Diddy early on? Because it seemed like from the show,

I've seen some clips that he definitely had like a real vested interest in your appearance and had very strong opinions at times. I don't know how much of that is like kind of for the camera versus like you and him actually having a sort of sadistic relationship, one-sidedly sadistic, I believe. I think all of those words that you just use are very accurate for this moment. I did not recognize that at the time I was in my teens. I was far too young. Nothing we did was faked then.

I've been on reality TV so long that I can live. tell you when the shift was I remember when I used to walk on to sets and just was me. And I remember when I started being handed a script or lines to say or just watched a producer walk in and tell us what to do in the scene. That got real uncomfortable. I really, once I was started being asked to do that, I've not watched any of those shows. There's so many shows I've been on that I never even watched because I just know they're silly. Right. And I was just taking a paycheck.

Right. There's really nothing going on authentic anymore, very little. But you felt like Did he had some special type of interest in you from early on? Nothing that we did was fake. So whatever you saw, which you're describing as being a one-sided sadistic, a poll toward me, I assume, or however you would say it, whatever you saw, is what it was. Right. And does this just start increasing as the years go by?

Yeah. So there's a lot of, I mean, let's continue to, I'll go piece by piece with you. But yes, you know, I have a girlfriend that I'm right now taking inventory of my experience. I'm being forced to in so many ways. And I'm making sure that I not only have the receipts, but I have the underage. understanding mentally of where I was at, which takes asking the people that were around me at the time, what were my responses to things. And I'm finding out so many times even very early on where Diddy was making comments like, oh, now you're f f***able. Like you look right. I can fuck you now. And things like that. I don't even remember. And I asked my girlfriend when she recalled that, my girlfriend who is a therapist for UCLA and has nothing to do with the entertainment industry and wants no part in it. She said she remembers when he, said that to me and then she said, I said, what did I do? And she, she said, you kind of looked in me and said, he finally thinks I'm pretty. That was what I thought in that moment. Now, I don't recall that, but she recalled it very clearly. And I think that it's just so telling for what a

woman goes through in a systemic problem. Specifically right now, we're discussing urban music, but it's happening across the board in music. But it's a systemic problem that, like, you know, you meet the person that can make your dreams come true. It's very much, it's grooming. It's very much like what the military does. They break you down to make you what they need you to be. An abuser will never abuse you on day one.

They push you a little bit. They talk to you a little rougher. Then they grab your arm a couple times. They get a little more. forceful. They nudge you. They poke at you and then they get into your head. You're problematic. You're a problem. And you need somebody that's real that will tell you like it is and get you in line. And when you find that person, that's when you'll know you're really cared about and really loved. And when you are so young and you have a child, when you are so young, you see how quickly kids pick things up and how quickly you start to understand the world. When you are at a young age and you're being groomed and like I said, America grooms us. So, so, so there's all kinds of issues that were, you know, instilled in all of us that we are not even aware of until you leave. But specifically in this setting, an abuser grooms you in that manner so that when they finally do violate you in a serious way, all of that to me is serious, though, frankly.

When grooming is serious. But when they violate you in a, in a assault way, It's people like I was told that you kind of took pause on Cassie's story because it's 11 years that she dealt with something that sounds so traumatic. I guess kind of were the words I was kind of told that your perspective was. Is that accurate? I think at least in the beginning, I was pretty skeptical of just what we could really, you know, be sure of in regards to all this. I think like having heard so many people's stories, especially. You know what really made me feel confident in a lot of this stuff is listening to Gene Deal, his bodyguard?

Yeah, I talked to him yesterday. Really? Yeah. Because he had a really astonishing quote. You should hear the one he's not saying. It's even crazier. Right. So he's got stuff in the tuck that he hasn't put out there?

Everybody does. Really? Yeah. He had a line. Allegedly. And we're going super out of order here. But he had a line when he was talking about Danny DeCain. where he said that this is the line.

It was when a couple of the girls in Danny McCain, I guess, like, refused to sign some type of agreement. We were giving a publishing deal prior to Cassie coming forward, about six months maybe even prior to that. And Gene said that Diddy's said to him in privacy, and there was only one other person in the room, I'm a drug they ass out and pimped them out to my N-words. Yep.

And Gene apparently was horrified and told, and he's quoting himself, but he said that he said, that's somebody's child. So let me give you clarity on that because I did want to talk to Gene because I took issue with that interview because he chuckled in it a bit when he was saying it. And I did not fuck with that at all. Really? And then when I got on the phone with him, he is the kindest, sweetest man. He acknowledged that, you know, it was an uncomfortable thing that he was kind of recalling. And it was like a nervous chuckle. And he takes it really seriously and that, you know, he was sorry if I was offended.

So I want to make sure that that's noted because I don't want to act like I watched that and was like, oh, I'm so happy to have received this information with a little bit of a chuckle. I didn't think it as like a chuckle. I took it almost as more like, I felt like he was almost on the verge of like crying. No, we watch it. Really? There was a chuckle. Yeah. Okay.

It was noticeable enough for me to get five million messages about it. Oh, really? Okay. But he acknowledged it right away to me. And I really respect him for that because it was not, it did not have that intention on it. Right. And also when I first saw it,

because there are so many people coming forward, and there are so many stories. And you're only seeing what you are seeing online, right? That's according to some TikTokers or whoever. There's a whole world happening. behind all of that that is so beyond your imagination we could sit here for hours and that's not even information that I personally would share because they're not all my stories. You're talking about private group chats, emails, etc. of people who know about stuff that

happened in this bad boy universe that are like privately working on what might be to come out publicly in the future? There are so many witnesses. There are so many victims. There are so many victims. Now, if or if not there were to be any type of investigation occurring, no victim should be or can communicate with other victims. And so victims are likely not communicating with victims. But a lot of people that know things or that are building things or whatever do reach out, do tell you everything. Sometimes they'll just write everything. I mean, I receive information whether I want to or not. But I've aired on the side of stepping away from the movie that's being made.

And I don't mean that literally. I mean that metaphorically. The movie of Diddy that's being painted right now. And I come back to myself, what I know to be true, what I know I witnessed, what I have receipts of, and what I believe. and I have pondered it all the way down to, I really adore one of his kids. So to me, I have to ask myself, this is a father.

So you really need to be sure when you speak what you're speaking about and how you're speaking about it because this is a man that's a father. And I think it takes a certain amount of something to be a good one. I'm not saying he is or isn't. but I've

I have enough information at this point that I asked Jean just bluntly is this a sociopath or is this somebody that can be redeemed and I'm not talking about in business or to the world I think it's a wrap for that I mean like his soul because I care for people's souls

And that was a man that at one point I just like adored. Looked up too. He made my dreams happen. You know, it's just somebody that like I just thought was all encompassing. Like everybody saw him to be for so long. And I, a random girl in Palm Springs, a random white girl in Palm Springs. It might be the only random white bitch in Palm Springs. it was bumping pock and biggie.

But still, a white girl from Palm Springs ends up coming and being like this lead in his five member band that did become, you know, double platinum international, a girl group that is like, you know,

I still believe in the Guinness Book of World Records ever having back-to-back number one albums. I mean, these things are not like cute little, like, I've, I went million today on TikTok. These are real stats. This is real shit. This isn't bought paid for.

This isn't viral. This isn't streams. This is a day and age where everybody wanted to be in someone's MySpace, top eight, and where you had to walk into a record store and buy a record. People physically walked into a record store and bought Danity Keynes records. And they are the ones that gave us two double platinum albums. At that time, 1499 and 1799. I don't know what it was.

let's call it 16 times 4 million, if that's what it is. That's like $60 plus million. I didn't see a penny of it. None of us did. Right. Because the label supposedly never recouped or whatever for all the costs associated with getting this thing off the ground. Do you buy that at all? Well, considering that MTV and Viacom were attached to the beginning of this picture, they were paying for the studio.

space, the producers, they were taking on most of the costs. They were even paying for Diddy's demanded helicopter-specific type of, like, really expensive jet that he would walk off of when he'd arrived to set allegedly. So the people footing the bill, and I'm sure they made a lot of money off of us as well. We were paid, I think, in the beginning, like $4,000. I make six figures on a television show nowadays. and I won't take anything under that. You know how hard I had to work to get to that number

when starting out at 4K, which you know is ridiculous. No, yeah, that's terrible. But let me ask you this. There's a extremely viral clip of Jaguar Wright going through a lineage of all these different people who are associated with Puffy that from her perspective we're planning on writing books or coming forward, speaking about him, etc.

I actually just watched an extremely good video by my friend's swamp stories about this. And he did a little bit of fact checking on some of the deaths that she's basically claiming to be associated with Diddy. And there's some stuff that seems a little bit off base. But the overall theme, it does seem pretty out of the ordinary. Would you say that that, when you see that clip of Jaguar right saying that? Which part? She said a lot. Just saying, well, the primary clip of her just sort of listing off all these different people who, in him,

his orbit who passed away seemingly of mysterious causes. What are the emotions that you feel when you see that? And is that part of why you've been keeping such a low profile and why you're living in this sort of state of fear? Well, if you were to believe what Cassie has alleged in her lawsuit that was settled in under 48 hours, it says that a car was blown up, Kid Cuddies. And if you believe that, which Cuddy confirmed it, if you believe that, I mean, it is hard to believe that the average person is capable of, like, getting someone killed, especially through like poison or whatever. But now that we have it confirmed that he blew up Kid Cuddy's car, well, I mean, it's not that far of a leap to say that they could orchestrate somebody losing their life as well, right?

So question, if you worked for somebody that now is on record that is capable of, at the very least, doing that, a lot of people suggest a whole lot more. If you had firsthand conversations with bodyguards that potentially helped along with any of that or could talk to you personally about any of that, how would you feel leaving your house? I have over 600 license plate screen capped in my phone right now from the phone. past three months of just random cars that were parked outside my home that didn't look right to me. I've never seen them on my block. Or I'll make a quick U-turn if I need to get some groceries and like a big car bus a U-turn in a really weird spot. It's like there are things that I know to look out for because I've been followed before in multiple settings that I'm noticing. So would let me just ask you, would you not be a bit worried or stay at home or keep yourself safe?

Would you not? I'm a little worried doing this interview. There you go. So yeah, I can imagine that that probably is reasonable. Have you had like any experiences that I mean, I would ask pause literally like, am I being crazy? I would literally just ask him because he very much is not a drama queen. It is not about gossip. and would directly state to me, you know, where he felt I was doing too much

and where he felt like I was doing enough. Like while we were dating and he knew about it. Pras would always tell me. So I don't know. I mean, I wondered sometimes and I tried my best to get the answer to it. Was the Cassie lawsuit a surprise to you? Or did you know that was coming? I knew something was coming because, um,

it was too much of a stretch for me to believe that I knew something was coming when I was given the publishing deal. I knew after my attorney looked into it and saw that we weren't really getting our publishing back from back when we actually sold as many records as we did, which would financially change all of our lives. And we did write on songs. And so we would get a nice chunk of money. I saw all the headlines about Diddy's being benevolent and giving all of his blessed artists their publishing back because it's notoriously known throughout time that he screws his artists over allegedly.

So when that came to me and then my attorney confirmed, it's not really him, it's Sony, and now they own your catalog and now they are giving you the rights to whatever it's made in this small period of time and in the streaming age when you have to stream something a million times to make a cent what good does that even do me right and then it came along with a silencer basically in so many words

it came along with a very long drawn out you can never speak of all of these things and people ever again and these people these people the people that they've ever worked with and anyone that they've ever worked with who's worked with who's worked with. I mean, it went on for generations that basically would cover everyone in the music industry. So I knew at that point,

he's not being benevolent, he's covering his ass for something. And that's when I wrote my band and I told them, please do not sign this. Something bad is going to happen. Or the only other thought I had was he's promoting an album. The thought that I didn't have at the time that I kind of have now is,

was the album also an additional distraction? But the part about getting, being the benevolent soul that was giving our publishing back, giving us our publishing back, when I realized that that wasn't actually real, we weren't really getting our rightful dues given back to us. I would just like to be paid for my work. I'm not asking for anything else.

No, I remember this news cycle. It's like at first, it's like, oh, wow. He's a God. Did he is doing something so nice. And I can I just say one thing that? I really was sitting in my soul since we're getting things out today. I just want to say to every journalist, what camera can I look in? To every journalist that was given that story by probably his publicist and that ran it.

And I'm talking, I saw it on the covers of complex, variety, all the way to like very reputable news sources that are official and confirm things. You guys spread a very big black and white headlines. to the world that was not accurate. And that is poor journalism. And you guys should be ashamed of yourself, straight up. Well, I mean, he was trying to give the publishing back. It's just that he was doing it in order to. The words, the pictures and the choices made were very much that he is a benevolent soul.

And the pictures were arms in the air. And here's the king coming to do right by everybody. all, everyone that participated in that story, I didn't get a phone call from any of them. I was not asked by any. I had to go on an only fans podcast. Shut up Glennie. Love Glenn.

To be able, and I had to ask Glenn, hey, can you just ask me about this? Because no one is. And there's a problem with what's being said right now. Right. And yet it was just like, I literally, my manager and agent called me and were like, congratulations.

I'm so happy that you're finally going to be paid for your work. And I was like, wow, so everybody's just believing this. Right. Yeah, so that was the original story. Then the next round of stories was basically people doing a little bit more deep digging and realizing that what he was actually giving back was not really worth all that much in terms of actual dollars. No, let me correct you. The next round of stories was me going on Glenn's podcast and reading the contract,

parts of it to the world. And then that went viral after. Cassie dropped her lawsuit. My name was trending with Diddy and Cassie. And I thought Drake released an album. But no, it turns out it was because of that interview. Because in that interview, Glenn asked me, why do you think he's lying about this or making it seem like you're getting all of this stuff back when you're really, it's really not what it sounds like? They had just approached me even with just the publishing they can only give me now, right?

If Sony just said, all we can give you is what it is now. Why did that come with a contract that said, I can't speak, Diddy's name, any of his first. family or any of his business partners and their business partners and their business partners and also says you can never speak of this contract or its existence. Why couldn't you just give me my rightful dues with putting none of the rest of it on there? I would really like someone from Sony to answer that for me. If there are any lawyers or anyone from Sony that can provide that answer, I would really appreciate it.

And so would the band members, band member in my group that didn't sign the contract either. We would like to know the answer to those questions. It's really hard to get any answers. If every single person sign that contract. Some people did. But he would be giving up maybe what, like a couple hundred grand a year, maybe a million a year. He would be giving up nothing that he's not giving way more of right now

to a lot of people probably allegedly. Right. But because then the amount that he benefits from, I don't know, 50 people signing these NDAs is massive. You know what the, sure, but also the benefit is like you've corrected your soul's journey. You stop screwing people over. Have you ever screwed anyone over?

If you're a good person, it usually wakes you up at night 10 years later. I like to correct my wrongs. You know, I'm not always aware of them. Sometimes people act like they really like me in the room. And then I find, to see a whole different edit on the internet. I don't know. I watched it happen in a podcast.

I don't know what happened. We're great in the room. Either way, I don't know all the time that I, offended someone or hurt somebody, but I certainly would acknowledge it and want to make it right if I did. And I'm wondering why that, where that part of him is. Is Did he really in a place where he's going to be like suing people for breaking their NDAs and shit?

Or is his career already in such a- I can't tell you what place he's in, but I, I, listen, if you have asked somebody to sign an NDA that is requiring them to be quiet. about anything illegal, that's not enforceable. Right. You can drown them with whatever, but there's also a lot of lawyers that'll work pro bono to get them undrowned as well.

So if there are victims out there that are scared of that, they shouldn't be. Right. So you're saying that if you had signed that contract and then if you ended up still disclosing some degree of physical or sexual abuse, the NDA is not supposed to protect against that because that's illegal?

And he wouldn't really have much of a case to come after you. You can't make someone sign a legal document to stay quiet about a legal behavior. That's not admissible. Even if it's- You can't enforce that. Even if it's illegal behavior that, as you said- Stormy was able to be in trouble because they had consensual sex. Right.

So if she signed an NDA about consensual sex and then she came forward and talked about it, then the lawsuit's not going to go in her favor regarding being sued over the NDA because everything was consensual, nothing. was illegal and you did break your contract. But like, let's say had everyone in Danity Kane signed that contract, he could have potentially used vocals that he had of ours on his new album and put us as one of the artists featured. So people should look into all the artists that are featured on his album and try to interview

them and see if those are vocals that they did for his album or if those are. vocals that they recorded 10 years ago, and he just brought them back because they're now silenced and acted like they're featured in supporting him in this new era of his journey. I think people should look into that. I don't know what is to be the case or allegedly to be the case, but it would be a good idea to go look. When you see Diddy's career going through this, you know, markedly downward trajectory over the past couple months, how would you describe the emotions that you feel,

seeing that happen to. Oh, God. Everything. I swear to you, I have everything from, I have days where I'm like before this information. Right, because that today. This right before the holidays. Right. Was a different story.

And also I wasn't connected with pause anymore. So I couldn't get his take on all of this. Okay. But prior to. Um, I went through everything from, I feel so horrible for him. Literally like that thought was spoken out of my mouth and I can't fucking believe it now. But I said to Praz like, I questioned everything. Do, do girls secretly want it?

Are guys really this sick? Is he sick and doesn't know it? Is he sick and knows it? Is he a sociopath? it does he feel sorrow for his wrongs. I don't have answers to anything. There's just more and more questions. As I start getting third party, like witness accounts that are being,

say the right word, attested to, I'm getting more angry. You know, I had the choice to not come in here and do this energy. view today that and a choice that could have potentially benefited me by not. But it didn't take me but one second to say I don't fucking care. Right. Just out of curiosity, how long were you dating Praz or what was that like? Of the Fugis for those who don't know.

Yeah, prize. I'm sure you know a little bit about his life what's going on right now. Right. Well, he had that crazy-ass case, right? Yeah, and he's being sentenced during the process of the sentencing phase. Okay, that's happening right now. Yeah, they're trying, his team right now is he's got a great team of lawyers that are trying to fight for his freedom and point out all of the problematic, um, the problematic, uh, actions that took place in the, during his case, during his, during his, is it called during his court case. Right.

Um, and he's fighting for his life right now. So imagine being in his. his shoes that are so heavy. I mean, he's facing the potential sentence, I believe, is like 20 years, the max. And then me coming forward. And he first came to me when he saw Glenn's only fans video drop before it even went viral or anyone saw it. He saw it.

And he hit me up and was like, you're a queen. Like, I've never seen anyone pull out a document. from one of these f***ed asshole labels and just read the words out loud to everyone and let people know what these things really look like. People are just too scared to really get very transparent about what's happening. Had I signed that contract,

I would never, ever in my life again, be able to speak about all the names in it, anyone they've done business with, or the existence of it in general. Do you know how problematic that is all to what? Get what's rightfully mine that was taken from me? That makes no fucking sense. And now it's created this huge beef in Dane

for those who still care because the problem with signing that is it's not about the money. It's not about the money for anyone. It was literally $300 and $14. It's nothing. It's about, couldn't we all ever reserve the right until the end of time

to potentially have the opportunity to come back together and tell our story in any type of way? Maybe not everybody wants to sing or be on stage again, but could we ever just come back together and just hold each other, hug each other? That is an experience in a time in our lives that no one will ever understand but us five, and that is not something that I take lightly.

And it was a line in the sand for me watching certain band members sign something that basically makes it. So not only can we not come back together and speak on everything that we went through as a team and back each other up for whatever moments we were there and saw, we can't back each other up in anything else ever either. And with things like this happening, if more details were to occur, I could ask, thank God, my roommate for a lot of times was Dee Woods. and Dee Woods did not sign that contract.

When I'm able to be able to have the right setting to sit down with her, I'm going to discuss all of the details with her because she might remember pieces of things that more details and more information could potentially... Because if I was drugged, I'll never have a memory of it. Have you ever taken an ambient? You go to bed. You don't remember what happens.

And that's not even what... they're giving people. It's way worse than... No, but I'm sure it's probably the same thing. Yeah, it's like you have this massive period of time in your life where you just don't remember anything. And no amount of like psychedelic or alternative healing is going to bring a memory back. I've done it so I can detest to it because I have no recollection of this.

But with more details and my bandmates protecting me, even if any of my bandmates, if I didn't like them if I thought they had poor character if they hit me or we fought or whatever the circumstance may be I wouldn't sign that contract for the sole reason that I would be wanting to stand by them if anything ever happened to them and they needed support just off the fact that all five of us know how fpped up everything was not to not everyone was treated the same and not everyone can attest to all the degrees. Yeah, that's one thing I want to ask is the rest of Danny DeCain, do they have similar memories as what you have?

Do you feel like they have a similar level of, you know, dislike or disdain for him? Since signing the contracts, I've only spoken on the phone with one of my bandmates, which is Dee Woods, and she recalls plenty. Really? She recalls information that I shared with her because we were roommates and she saw firsthand receipts that I have. Receipts that I didn't even remember that I had this. She brought to my attention and then I got because she reminded me, hey, I also saw this. Do you remember this?

So she was extremely supportive and helpful. And, you know, I don't want to throw her name out there without her being able to speak her. self because a lot of times in Danity Kane, you know, I get heat for that because I am so vocal and blunt and honest and forthright and not everybody wants to have their business out there like that. So rightfully, like, you know, I'll end it at that. But Dee has her own story and she'll tell it when she feels comfortable. But it felt so good between Dee and Pra's and a few others that really have had my back during this. I got really close with Babs. from DeBand, I love her like a sister.

I mean, you know, none of these people need to be targeted. They're good people and they're just support. But they were supportive. And I, you know, I don't want to, like, I don't want anyone to have problems, but I also don't want to, like, miss the opportunity to state people that, like, are fucking, the shit

really, truly. You know, Praz explained a lot of things to me on days where I was like, you know, every time he lost another company and things like that started happening, I would say like,

you know, because I could pull out of the movie, Cassie's court, her documents were just so damning. They were so intense. Did you read it? Yeah, a lot of it back then. It was horrific.

I mean, I had to put it down many times. Tiffany's read secondhand account of, of very specific details of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of what she witnessed cried during it. I mean, it's so traumatic to even a witness that their whole life was shifted.

I told Praz at certain moments like what happened was when Cassie's came out, there was a lot of people contacting anyone that could be potentially in the same shoes. And there was a lot of comparisons and comparisons being made and this pales in comparison to this being done by all the people that run all of the business, which I really hate, by the way, because no victim story pales in comparison. It's a shitty thing to say, feel, or ever even internalize for anyone. And I'm sad that I even had to go through that feeling. but when I would discuss it with

Praz he would say to me let's put aside all the receipts and all of this aspect of what I now know now that we've become intimate and have a close relationship so let's put that to the side you at a very young age

made potentially like 60 plus million off of these platinum albums whatever the number is to this man who then turned around and to a network and everything. I mean, we had a hit show on MTV for five, six seasons. Then he turned around and fired you on national television for being problematic, bad for business, promiscuous,

was one of the words, I believe. And then left you out to die, signaled to the world that you're bad for business and then let you out to die. you were fucking violated. Your entire trajectory of your life now had to go a certain way. And it's not a way I chose. I walked into record labels when I first was let out,

and there's a whole story behind that. Do you think you blackballed you? Oh, babe. Let me just say this. If I were promiscuous, do you think you would have had a problem with it. So your refusal to take part in certain things?

I'm not suggesting anything other than what I just said. If I were permiscuous, as he stated, as a reason of me being this problematic person ready for firing, do you think you would have had a problem with me being promiscuous?

The language and the fact that it was aired on the biggest network at the time to the world, and then they drug me back and made me sit there and face him while he's in a towel and his million dollar home in Miami with a cocktail in his hand and made me sit there and have to literally just be like victim shamed over and over again with they know this and she knows that and this is this and they ain't that and half the girls have turned on me

and they're going to continue on one of them knows the truth and she's going to refuse to go back that one of them at the time was Shannon and she did refuse to go back and that made it so he couldn't replace me and keep it moving, which is what he was trying to do until he decided to do dirty money and then just act like he cared about Danny D.Kane in order to transition allegedly. But either way, like, I've never watched my firing

until I got home from Bali. I literally watched it on Instagram one night. I was going through old making the band clips. I just sat there and I saw this human that I don't even know. I look at that girl and I just feel so sad for her. I'm tough now. I don't take anyone's shit. I'm hard.

I'm hard to love. My dick is bigger than any man's I've ever dated. I'm taking Praz out of that because I have so much fucking respect for that man. But everyone else's my dick is bigger. Praz look like it got a big ass dick. Praz's dick is great.

I got a radar for this kind of thing. For sure. Does Don Jr. have a big dick? No. You got SDE. What is that? Small day. energy. It wasn't small.

Really? No, the sex was not bad, but it's very mental with him. Everything's very mental. You know, it's funny, because I'm listening to you talk about Don Jr. just to randomly switch this up, but I was listening to talk about it and just thinking, like, she seems pretty cool. She's fly as fuck. Me? Yeah. Oh, thank you. Oh, you didn't think I thought your heart. Are you inviting me or what? Am I getting invited into the circle? We can talk about that. Hey, babe, I got great news. And then I realized that you dated him before he became this ridiculous right-wing caricature on Twitter. Because to me, he's just like so detestable.

Every time I've seen him speak on camera, every time I've read his tweets, I almost feel like either I unfollowed him or maybe did he stop tweeting? Because I feel like I haven't seen him on there in a long time. He goes on every now and then he's still just as obnoxious. Listen, you see my energy. I really, you know I couldn't be with someone like that. I'm as liberal as it gets. And I'm a bleeding heart liberal. And like, even if when I pay my taxes,

I wished I was more Republican during those months. But like other than that, like on social justice issues, I just could never be because I don't care about money more than I care about people's rights and things being fair for everybody. And at the end of the day, I could have never loved. And that was one of my soulmates in life, the one. Really?

No one's beat him yet. I think Praz could have, if we could have been able to be in these very intense, heavy situations at the same time and open ourselves as vulnerably as the other was at the same time. We just couldn't get it to happen. So you're telling me that Don Jr. in private is not consumed with abortion and trans people. Who he is right now? I don't know. I mean, I will tell you this. He would net. When I saw like, you know, I don't think it was gossip. It was on, it was on a reputable news source. But like Washington Post, Bloomberg, somebody posted about when, uh, I can't never say her last name properly. I'm not really trying to throw shade, but I don't care if it comes off shady. I'm just going to call it say Garfield because I can't fucking. I don't know her last name and I don't care to learn it. When he started dating Kimberly Garfield and they were like throwing their relationship everywhere after the wife finally left him and did whatever,

then I was like, I don't believe this relationship for a hot second when I would watch her in interviews because that's just not his type. And then, and I know what that man loves because he loved me so much. He taught me how to love me differently. Really? Yeah. Wow. He used the word soulmate long before I did. So I watched that relationship play out.

And then I saw these interviews that was talking about, you know, she was head of the funding for the second election or whatever. And she was doing these like alleged like hot tub parties where she'd get in the hot tub with the biggest donors and, you know, party with them or whatever. And one of the donors, I guess, like gave an account of one of the nights. And it said that she was talking about. their sex life. I think this is all allegedly because I can't remember the specifics, but something about their sex life and he likes her in outfits and this cheerleader or this,

that, and the other, Dawn would never. If I ever showed up in an outfit in front of him, he would literally make fun of me if I ever did something like that. Skin to skin impress me to get my dick hard is who I dated. I needed to intellectually level up daily. If I, I, I, I, I would wake up an hour before him and learn all kinds of random obscure things about aspects of the world that are just completely undevalued and not thought of. And I would tell it to him and his dick would be hard. And he would just fucking love me an ounce more. Like it was like my mind was advancing so fast during that stage because he was so impressed with it. He wanted to have a baby with me.

And I was like, you already have kids. We're already in a mess that we're trying to get out of like, are you serious? And he was like, I want to know what I would make with you. I want to know what our minds would be in a child. Right. And that to me was the first time I even thought like, oh, wow, having a child is a thing. And it could be a thing I do. And I really would want to have a child that has his brain and my brain together.

So imagine now the world knows him to be what this character is that he's become. Unfortunately, it seems like we're moving into an era where everybody's got to kind of be some kind of character. It really sucks. I tried to fight it every single show I've ever done. I have so many production companies that do not want to work with me, think I'm difficult and don't want to cast me. And every time we get down to the why, it's as simple as I wasn't doing what they told me to do or wanted me to do, which basically means they need brainless talent that don't really have stories that will go there and do perform the story. that they need them to perform.

Right. And that means they don't trust that people are interesting on their own anymore. And they're the ones that are deciding what everyone's seeing on TV. And then people that watch it on TV internalize it as real life being projected back to them. And then they create a whole life around it. Right. It's horrible. It's horrible.

We're all literally creating identities off of identities, off of identities, and it's all being played God by a bunch of people that aren't even interested if you are interesting. When is the last time we've seen a TikTok about a book? Right. Everyone on TikTok needs to take a day off and read one. But I do hear about book talk.

Like there's a whole thing. Okay, you walk into Barnes & Noble? There's a Barnes and Nobles that I go to occasionally and I see this whole tray of books in the front that says book talk. And I'm like, why the fuck does TikTok not show me any books? Oh, because TikTok knows that I like ass. and like police standoffs and shit, you know? If you like ask, you to go to my only fans.

I shall. I wish that I had invested some money. I was hoping you would because I dropped a few good ones so you would see them. How freaky are you getting on there? I'm expressing my sexuality the way I like to. I'm not here to leave anybody on left. Okay. Yeah.

Is there any kind of like actual sexual stuff going on in there? I'm leaving everybody happy. I've been with a girlfriend a few times doing fun stuff, but I've never like ever been in a relationship and record. Like, you know, you do more like real, raw, authentic. This is my wife. This is a person we're bringing in. This is our sex type of thing.

I don't do that. I'm not opposed to it. I just only got on Only fans just recently. I'm barely, I'm a baby. What made you want to do that? So I called like Carmen Electro when I got home and I was like wondering where the money and brand deals were. When I left for Bali, it was like I had fashion Nova deals, pretty little thing, this, that, and the other I wore outfits and could pull a shit ton of money in in a month and not do anything except pictures and photography and building sets and things that I love. Right.

And then I was like, where did it all go? Over on TikTok, I went and looked at this thing called TikTok. There were dances. There were people farting the national anthem. And I was like, I can't do this. I can't do it at all. I physically can't. And so then I was like figuring out my way into a profession I really want to be in developing that.

But what do I do in the meantime? And she kind of explained Only fans to me in a very simple way. Carmen, a lectures on there too? Yeah. Wow. And then in a very simple way, I understood it for a while. And then I was like meeting different girls that are on it. And it kind of is like the celebrity girls are over here and the OnlyFans girls are over here.

And they don't really play friends too much. And I would go to OnlyFans events and I'd try to talk to like girls and they're all into each other and their things. And they maybe don't even know who I am or not Carmen Electra or me, frankly. There are a lot of young girls on there that are like in the now known or whatever. But they're all into each other and running to each other. And I couldn't seem to get anyone to gravitate toward me. like include me. So I was like, what, why am I not like fitting in here? Because I want to be cool. So then I just started to like go to different events and start to hear what people's content was

and see things that I didn't, I knew no, I'm not doing that I'm not going there with it. And then I saw things where I was like, that's actually really hot. And then I realized only fans isn't in pictures. I was doing like 30 picture sets and whatever. And I was like, screw a picture. Don't be scared anymore like you love your body you're you feel good in the very beginning i would hide more with outfits i'm like fully new dance i'm like fully new dancing and stuff now and um and like i i had to get my comfort level and feel good about my body and feel like okay i feel good like showing my body in this way or that way and it's progressing as i go i mean i when i decide i want to make content i make it what i love about only fans is my entire life

I have always come last in every business I've ever been in. Because let's just say as an artist, your manager, CPA, publicist, record label, A&R, radio guy, everybody gets paid before you do. And then it's taken out taxes and then divided on down between five. You don't see money in any of the settings even in regards to TV. You pay your agent, your manager, you're this, you're that. There's everyone around me was always more important. In fact, our manager of Dan D.K.

And, very, very early ages of my career pulled me aside and was like, you know, you're the star. And I'm like, no, I'm not. We're all the stars. We've all agreed. And he was like, listen, the audience has decided whether you guys made an agreement or not. And so I just want you to know, you need to tighten things up when these like little fights are going on in between you guys. Because you're the most replaceable piece of this situation. He told you you were the star and the most replaceable one?

Yes, and this is what he meant. I asked to explain and he said, the manager, the CPA, the attorney, because they put you with each other. The manager, the CPA, the attorney, the record label, the, the, all of the heads. He's like, we're all going to be here for the next 10 girl groups after you. We're going to be running them. You're the most disposable piece. Okay. So if you guys want to fight and bicker and be over, then you're going to miss the opportunity.

And all of us are still going to be here. So you're not doing me any favors. You're doing yourself a favor by keeping your group together and by any means necessary. And I just saw it as a battle cry, you know, or a, you know, grooming message, allegedly, potentially to do what I have to do to make sure my group stays together. And maybe if I'm mad as someone, don't really say it or act like I like somebody. really don't or whatever I got to do in order to make sure that everything stays afloat. But that really was the truth. And it's the truth about you, me, and all of us that are in front of these cameras.

We are the most disposable piece. They'll put another outrageous guy that likes ass and tities and whatever else in your spot tomorrow. And then you'll tap dance for the last little bit of money you can get. And I've heard you say like your goal is to make a certain amount of money by a certain point and retire and whatever. Great. That means you're smart about your business. because if you think this goes on forever, you're sadly mistaken,

and that's something that the TikTokers don't understand yet. That's something that that young generation and only fans doesn't understand yet. I'm 40, so I've got a bit of a vantage point on that in terms of seeing, you know, these 16, 17, 18 year old kids come out and command, you know, 50,000 live viewers at all times on Twitch and shit. As well as, you know, I'm familiar with the Sways and the big boys and even like the DJ Vlad's and stuff who are starting to get into their 50s. and I can see how your energy level is not maybe necessarily going to be the same. It's not going to be easy for the 18-year-old drill rap fans to resonate with you as a 50-year-old dude as much.

So it's like I'm very much trying to ride this out as long as I possibly can, but also totally aware that whatever power I have to command a large audience right now is almost certainly going to wear off as time goes by. Right. So you can't make it any part of your identity or else when it goes, you're going to be. be left with only drugs available because when you have money and there's nothing, no lights and cameras left, drugs are always there and they'll make you forget that no one cares about you anymore. Right. Because that's going to hurt if you've made it your identity.

When's the last time you did drugs? What drugs are we talking? Bali. I did psychedelics. Oh, all that stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I never really got into drugs. I've done drugs, but I never really got into them.

When I was in Bali, I was, like, taught the importance of psychedelics. I truly did not believe it at all. I was like, no thanks. You guys are just selling drugs. Right. But then when I actually like, and I didn't do like, you know how now people are doing like shrooming, what is it called? Microdosing.

Right. It could be a replacement for antidepressants that's more positive if it is good because the antidepressants that I've ever taken in life were horrible and I hated it. Right. Horrible experience with them. That's not everyone's experience though. But like, you know, if they're replacing them in a good way, fine. But if you do very large doses of it.

You can go into other dimensions and remember things in your, it basically strips you of your ego. Psychedelics completely take your ego away and you can look in the mirror. And because all of my sessions were recorded, I was with professionals that were guiding me. I mean, it's not like I was recreationally just popping drugs. I was given drugs. I was dropped down into them through cacao ceremonies and breath work and healing, you know, a lot of alternative healing practices. I was dropped down into this room, so it wasn't like all of a sudden I was like fucked up.

I was dropped down in a cozy state and then I was guided through. I basically had to make a list of intentions. These are all the things I think are blocking me in life that were traumatic that occurred. And then we'd see what was really sitting there once we got started. She'd bring up a topic. I thought my mom was going to be way more loaded than it really was. I thought a lot of hateful things were going to come out of my body. and when it came up, I had one tear that ran down my face.

I was so outside of my body that I could see it. I can still see it. I have a very perfect vision of it. One tear came down my face and I said, I feel so bad that either her or I will likely die before we ever got to be great together. And that makes me so sad because I ended up being really great and I really wish she could see that and know me like this

and not still understand me in the ways she needs to understand me in order to process whatever her behavior was in childhood. What's her perspective on you and what's keeping her from accepting what you're doing with your life? Oh, she doesn't not accept what I'm doing with my... I mean, I don't know if she knows about it. I don't think my mom would care about my fans.

My mom's sexually open. Okay. No, more so we couldn't ever... I needed apologies for certain things in my childhood, and she couldn't deliver them because she didn't see them that way. When alcohol is involved, you don't remember certain things. And I noticed that I was dating versions of aspects of my mother or in business with, too. My mom over and over again, and I was trying to heal our wounds through all of those relationships, and they weren't doing. They weren't healing.

They were just re-traumatizing me every time. when I got to Bali, I was like, this has to stop. I can't keep re-traumatizing myself. I told my mom, I really want to go to therapy and, like, really want to do the work with you. I'll even take you along in this journey in Bali with me, but you got to, like, actively participate. And she just doesn't want to have to participate in making it better.

So it's not going to be better because I'm not going to try anymore. Damn, that's interesting. You got to tell me where you went to do this psychedelic retreat in Valley. Oh, it took me. I mean, and let me say this too, because I'd love to return to Bali. It allegedly may or may not have taken place in Bali because, of course, drugs are illegal in Indonesia and you cannot do them. So allegedly, maybe I would have gone somewhere else allegedly. But doing them and getting to the real healers, I'm talking real healers, shamans.

And like that took over like seven months of being respected by the right people. to get to a real healer because there's a lot of fake healers there too. Interesting. Or OnlyFans, girls. It's a really cheap way of life and it's untouched land. It is the most beautiful place

on the planet Earth. Bali is breathtaking. It is love. It is joy. It is peace. It is everything you could ever want in your life. You should take your wife and your child there and go have a million more

and run around on a beach and not be bothered by any of the ball. I turned my phone off of America. You can turn your Twitter off of America and go to another country. So I could do a psychedelic retreat with my kid? Well, how old your child? Three. You shouldn't give a child psychiatric.

No, I'm not going to give it to her, but I'm saying like, could she be around or like, were you getting so fucked up that you couldn't possibly like take care of your obligations? So this is unlike anyone else's experience, probably that they will ever tell you. But my personal journey, I had a woman that built kind of like a mini. Disneyland for me. So there was an art area. My kid loves Disneyland. Okay.

So then there was an art area where I could paint if I felt that I needed to express myself through paint. Oh, wow. There was an area where I could journal if I felt like journaling. There was an area where there was a camera if I wanted to sit in front of the camera and talk to it. There was a mirror that I could look at myself in if I wanted to look at myself. There were little Furbys.

Those are the ones I remember the most. I have a lot of it in video too. It's actually an incredible experience. and they were trying to make a documentary about it. And I was like inching my way to try to get into it. But there are people that feel I'm difficult or this, that, or the other. And I'm just trying to open my heart and be like, listen, I really know this world. I should produce this world.

You guys don't even know this world. And you're trying to make it happen on a TV show. I really know it. And I really know how to teach the youth this world, the new age, this world. Because the people that watch cable are soon going to all be on streaming. and the young kids don't watch that shit. So, so like it will die if they don't start to figure out how to teach cool, the cooler ideas to the young kids. And alternative healing is really fucking cool.

Breathwork could stop school shootings. If we could just lobby Congress and implement it into elementary schools, if you taught children just how to breathe when they feel angry, overwhelmed, pissed off. unwelcome, unloved, uncared for, violated. If they just understood how to do a few patterns of breathwork, they could completely release themselves from grabbing that Glock with the, what is it called, bump, stop, and shooting up the school. Yeah. That was one of my ideas when I came home,

produced a documentary about alternative healing and get a bunch of your celebrity friends who are way too caught up in their egos to face themselves without their ego. It's a trip, man. When I learned to not be Aubrey O'Day, I did not know who the fuck I was. The day that I realized my entire personality was based off of trauma response was crazy. The entire human Aubrey O'Day that I don't even feel like my name is mine anymore. It's the world's to throw around and make fun of, basically. So is my body, really, as well. One of my first viral videos was I like got some acid from some dude at the bar. And then the next day, We went on a hike in the woods, and I took the asset and made a video of myself while I was tripping.

And that was like one of the first big things that I did. What did you do on the video? Fucking just stared into space and just talked and, like, freaked out. You look like Hunter Biden's laptop leaks. It was not as crackheadish, but it was that kind of thing. Yeah. And, like, sometimes it occurs to me. Like, I feel like everybody has the psychedelic part of their life, and then they stop at some point.

And like getting it from some guy at the bar is maybe not like where my journey should stop. Like maybe I should have the ballet retreat before I hang it up. Have you done PTSD shrooms, ayahuasca, or DMT? I mean, I've done shrooms just like getting shrooms from someone and just eating a shitload of shrooms and freaking out. Like 13 grams. Isn't that like huge? That's like a lot. Yeah.

Yeah. That sounds like a lot. It's PTSD shrooming. It's a large dose in a period of time with someone that's watching over you and gently guiding you through PTSD. de-trauma, you're not going to be able to go that deep on a couple grams of shrooms. You're just going to, like, see a lot of things kind of shifting. Yeah, I've freaked the fuck out of shrooms a few times in my life. Shrooms are not for everybody.

I would use those. Honestly, all of it isn't for everyone. Ayahuasca is an, ayahuasca requires you to basically project up everything inside of you in order for the actual next dose to land in you and for the effect to occur. So you do a lot of vomiting. Really? Yeah. Like a day of it.

Yeah, it's horrible. A whole day? And it's a very slow, it's like taking a small sailboat into the deep end. It's a while until you get there. DMT, you jump right into the deep end. It's very intense and it's very quick. Nice. I might go to Austin.

Maybe me and Joe Rogan can do some DMT. If you go anywhere and do DMT, please bring me and can we film it. In fact, let's produce a documentary where we get our cool friends. to do psychedelics and not do psychedelics to be assholes, but do psychedelics to try to process some things that are going on inside of them that they need to resolve because let's not act even at 40. Like we don't have things that we're still battling to get through. Right.

We don't know ourselves at 40. We don't know ourselves even when we die. We've got a better understanding of everything. But wait until you start guiding your daughter through life. You're about to have a whole lot of layers added to that. I got to witness a lot of that with Don and wanting. to leave his family, but having children and not being happy where he was at, but being responsible with his children.

That is a calling that I could only express by watching it firsthand. It was insane. Definitely. I wanted to ask you about this. Yeah. My publicist sent me some notes for this, and he just wrote, she says that there's a lot of gay rappers who abuse women. Gay rappers?

Yeah. No. gay rappers that abuse women? First of all, I don't know who's gay or who's not. And that's one thing. Let me be very clear about. Even with the Diddy thing, you know the rumors in the streets have gone on for years about who's gay or who's not or whatever.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with being gay. Being gay or enjoying having sex with men is absolutely fine. If that is all Diddy or any other rapper we're doing, then that's fine. But there is something wrong with being. a secret gay, right? No. If you don't want to express to the world that you're gay, that's your own, that's your own identity to express.

That's not for anyone else. What, what if you, I don't know what, where that sentence came from. That doesn't, I don't touch that from a, with a 10 foot pole, but I will say, it's not being, if they're closeted or not, it's not anything about being gay. It's about who are you abusing? Are you abusing men and women? If you're having consensual sex with men and women, then that's just who you are. And if you don't want to admit it to people and you're lying or whatever, that's on you.

If it comes out, then you made mistakes and should have been tighter with it. I only care about are you abusing people. Did you abuse a man? Did you abuse a woman? Did you violate a woman or a man? That is a very problematic situation. Anything else? I personally think we should stop gossiping.

about who in rap music is gay. Yes, at that time, and even in times before me, Biggie days, I don't think a gay rapper could have come up. Now we have two white boys with WikiBraids singing Island Boys that are charting number one

on music charts. They charted number one? They made a lot of money and now they're kissing each other and saying they're gay. To me... I love what you're using the Island Boys instead of a little Naz-X as the reference point here. Well, no, but because there also misappropriating a culture.

Right, because they're not gay. I don't know what they are. I've never met them. I don't care to meet them. It's not something I care to understand. They're just trying to make money on only fans, I'm pretty sure. But what I'm saying is, we live in a world where that actually made a music chart, and that actually is a song that everybody can sing. The Island Boys thing. You know the song. We all know the damn fucking song. Back in that day, that would have never flown. That would have never happened. Back in the day, that would have never been okay. And you know it and I know it. And anyone

that was back in the day, even during my time, you would never have been able to be gay and been taken seriously as an urban rap artist. There's a difference between being gay and being gay with your own twin brother. I mean, I don't want to touch on them. They're ridiculous to me. But I think, you know, it's great that I guess you can be gay

and be a rapper and do whatever they're doing as well, whatever. But that's not the environment that a lot of rappers were raised in back in the day. day and maybe if they did like guys or did want to be with guys, they couldn't be because they wouldn't be able to have their careers and still be taken seriously because at that time, that was just not being done. And a lot of it has to do with church and does the Bible accept gays and all of that kind of stuff plays into it, I think.

But but on down the line, I guess now we are in a society where you can be gay and be a big rapper and I don't know, maybe kiss your brother. Who knows what's going on. I know. I still feel like we're kind of struggling to see like long term success. I love what Lil Nas has done. Right. I think he is such a creative genius.

His art is flawless. He puts sex on display and such a raw, beautiful. I got turned on. Really? Yeah. I love. You like watching guys fuck? Yeah, I could watch.

I've watched even like trans. I've watched trans girls. I've watched everybody. I, I, I, I, I, think it's fun. I was watching a porno the other day and this like super hot girl. I was like, God damn, I wish I looked like her. She was getting railed from behind on the kitchen sink and he was going to town and then she turned around and she had a big old dick. And I was like, wait, should I turn this off? I shouldn't be watching this. And then I stopped it for a second. I was

like in the middle. My vibrator was hot. It was ready to go time. And I was like, wait, uh-uh. And then I was like, why though, Aubrey, C? Like, don't, you don't be judgmental like that. need to grow with the times. I literally forced my mind back into my orgasm from watching that. Really? So yeah. Like, I mean, am I going to like, you know, transition or anything? No, I'm fine with who I am. But like, I actually enjoyed watching the sex. That's happened to me a few times. And I really, in that moment, felt like I should be able to sue porn hub. Oh, where they turned around and there was a big dick. Actually, she had a bigger dick than the guy fucking her. And not only did I have a moment where is this right, wait, it's kind of hot. Then I had a moment where I was like, I love. I love.

love that the female ended up having the bigger dick this shit is female empowerment yes it was so good i had all of it in one come it was like the hottest shit so let me ask you this i just interviewed this dude and he had an epic quote it's about to come out so the people probably have seen it by now but his quote was i'm not gay just because i like to suck my girlfriend's dick because he had a trans girlfriend it does it make you gay if you suck your girlfriend's He's the thing. Why, I don't, why all the titles? Well, he had been like basically excommunicated.

His father disowned him. Over a title. Can't we just change the title? What do words even mean? This is, this is for how I feel about words. His dad's from a biker gang. So he like really didn't want his son to be gay, I guess. I get it.

Listen, this is my thought on words and I had it in Bali while I was on my psychedelics. I started to get to a point where I, I wouldn't speak certain words because I felt I was manifesting things in my life. I know a lot of people that are still at that level. that's a level congratulations i got to a cooler one and that level looks like this break down everything to its origin where did words really come from what were words before words hieroglyphics etches and some stone what did the etchings look like you go there and get an ox and kill it so we can eat and you go there and fuck the woman so we can reproduce and get more people here and and that's as simple as it got right

So words are man-made. Who decided what gay means? Who decided what slurs mean? Who decides to put emphasis into what words? And we're all so particular about words nowadays in this society. But we're not even at a level where we're understanding. Who decided what these words all mean? I'm not deciding that words mean certain things for me.

I'm not deciding one word is good and one word is bad. I mean, of course, I will socially be responsive. with my words, but because there's a whole society that isn't on that level yet. But words are manmade. The Bible is manmade. Oh, I agree with that. Everything that we're reading is manmade. Somebody decided it to be so.

I have a problem because I have questions. Who is the somebody? What was their experience in life? What color are they? What is their experience? What gender are they? I want to have a full-blown background check on whoever. made up what words are and mean.

That's real. Have you, I understand that you heard Donald Trump say some racist shit behind the scenes? I mean, really, Adam? He says racist shit in front of the scenes. Not that racist, though. Yeah, no, he says racist shit in front of the scenes all the time. Okay. Have you ever heard?

He damn near came down and said he's going to put a fucking border up. Okay, well, I'm behind that for sure. I mean, he's been racially inappropriate. You see what's going on down there? There's a lot of trouble. Adam, are you serious right now? I think that the wall was always a pretty solid idea. I can't get on that with you.

I can't go on that train with you. I mean, there's a very big crisis at the border right now. I think that you can discuss the crisis at the border without using divisive language and slogans that disclude races from feeling welcome in America, just like he called COVID, the Chinese. flu or the China flu, which then offended a lot of people culturally and probably made a lot of people feel unwelcome in this country since the president was titling it in a way that was very thoughtless. But it seems it may have emerged from a lab in China. So if they invented it, I think we got to give them credit. No one Chinese in this country had anything to do with COVID spreading across the world. and no one Chinese in this country should feel like the president who is the face of our country

is basically putting some blame with his wording. He's a bombastic communicator. Like Kanye almost, but Kanye's a genius, musical genius. But so let me not make the comparison. Actually, that was not a good comparison. But yes, he doesn't use his words as effectively as he could. And I don't even honestly think that he's that hateful. as he comes across, I think he just does whatever's good for the green.

You were on set at The Apprentice, though. Did you ever hear him use the N-word? No, but he did, from what I remember, allegedly, when there was like an off moment, he was saying something about, why don't blacks love me? I love blacks. They should love me. You're one. I have blacks.

You're one of my blacks, right, Arsenio? He said some shit that was hella out of pocket. I'm white and I can't speak on what it would be to experience that as a black person in that room. But it felt really fucking off in my soul. It sat real sideways in my soul. And I've looked at Arsenio like, I don't know if he was going to punch him or if he was going to just continue on with the filming. But I don't think anyone should say to somebody else, you're one of my blacks. That doesn't sound right to me at all.

But you remember the clip where he said, that's my African American over there? No, he actually said that. in the show world. Okay, well then there you go. It's more funny than offensive. It occurs to me that Trump is almost like a prison dude. Because like we just had a Mexican rapper named Lefty Gunplay on here. And he talks about the black. Lefty who? Lefty gunplay. You should check them out.

I thought we weren't allowed to have guns here. He had to leave the, leaving in the car. He left the Glock in the glam room. Allegedly. I have no idea if he had a gun. But he talks about the blacks a lot because he's coming from prison. He's a Mexican. So they just talk about the blacks. The blacks. That's what they say in prison, the blacks. Yeah, yeah, the whites, the blacks, the Mexicans. Oh, like, they're divided by race, is what you're saying?

I'm just saying Trump could potentially get by on that. Well, he could also potentially be going to prison, so it's good that he understands the lingo. I don't think he's going to prison even if he gets convicted. He won't go to an official prison, but there'll be an ankle monitor and a never-ending stay at Mar-a-Lago or someplace like it. Right. Unfortunately, Jill doesn't look the same for someone that big, but he's got 91 indictments. I think now. Yeah. I wonder if they'll let him walk the yard.

He'll probably, they'll stick him in some piece of thing. I don't think he wants to walk the yard, babe. If you've seen him, I don't think he's a walker. I feel like the prison population probably, like,

largely supports Trump. Really? Yeah. Can I tell you, when I went to Bali, they support him there too. And I first argued with, like, the first four or five people

that tried taking up for him. And then I was like, okay, this is something I'm not going to be able to do while living here. So I'm just going to let it go. We barely talk politics or Trump, so I'm going to just let it slide.

But because people go to Bali, because they want to distance himself from their country or things that occurred or they come for healing to get away from wherever they were, it's a place where you go to seek a new life and a better life. So you see a lot of people that are rebelling against the system that live there. And that's kind of his brand. And that's his brand. And so they don't live in America. They weren't Americans that loved him, but people from all around the world would take up for him in

Bali. and I would literally be like, I'm the only American sitting here. That man is trash, so I'm in the fucking garbage. No. Yeah, I can see that. I understand you have. And you know that that is a lot for me to say because I fully also can say his son was my soulmate then. And up till now, I had a love with him that I've never repeated with anyone else.

But you also seem to make it clear that you think that his dad's presidency essentially kind of like ruined him or how he, responded to his dad's presidency by sort of becoming this. I think that every single one of us that are in this industry are opportunists and he got the opportunity of a lifetime and he took it and I probably would have too. So it doesn't make me hate him. But I do always want to be a fucking constant reminder that I'm still here. I'm still talking. I'm still being authentic and doing me.

And I didn't have to sell out in any bullshit. I'm not having to lie. come to an interview about OnlyFans and lie about my old boss or anything that I'm going through. It's emotional. It's hard. It's rough. I dated a guy. It didn't work.

I still love him. I never loved anyone the way I loved Don Jr. I'm telling you a lot of difficult things that don't have pretty endings and nice bows to wrap up on. But I certainly don't have to f*** Kimberly Garfield and act like I hate a bunch of people that I don't. I don't know who's worse off. I think him, but who knows. What kind of guy would you see yourself ending up with? Because there is this weird strain between a lot of the guys that you've been connected with

where they're like mega famous slash rich slash powerful slash embroiled in various legal problems. Yeah, you know, it's interesting. I was like trying to think if I like fell for Praz before knowing the full extent of all of it. I think probably not. But Praz taught me something that I think. think is ringing true to me turning 40 and wanting a nice summary for 40 and single. Unless he doesn't go to prison. And then I very much would like to pick that back up.

So you're just kind of waiting to find out. You wouldn't hold them down for 10 years while I was in the feds? I would, yeah. Really? Yeah. We discussed it. Real one. Yeah.

We discussed it. We couldn't get through discussing it because he doesn't like to use words that he doesn't want to manifest. And for me, I can't be in that world anymore. I got to live in reality where the real words are real. We've got to talk about what it looks like if something were to occur, all occurrences. So are you guys an item right now, or did you put it to the side while he figures out what his future is going to be with this? Well, in this interview comes out, if 50 girls come out and say, I f*** your man and then want to come hit your podcast because we all know you've had girls on that have my man.

We don't do a lot of that anymore. Well, yeah, back in the day. They go talk to Sharp. Few of the girls you had on back in the day. Definitely my man. But like, or one of my men, ugh, gross, the worst one. Which one? Polly.

Oh, Polly D. What, Selena Powell was talking about him? Yeah, Selena Pau was an issue and there were many others. I love that Polly D is part of the story as well. He's the worst part of the story. I would always just see these headlines like Polly D is like the most paid DJ in America. Yeah, and don't get me started on that. And we would just be like, what the guy's a DJ?

That's a sad day for all DJs out there. they're real DJs. Let me tell you that probably eats at them night and day. Diplo's rolling around in his grave. No, Diplo doesn't have a grave. Didn't he settle out that case? Oh, right. He's alive, yeah.

Shout out, DiVlo. I'm just fucking around. I understand you have some pretty strong opinions about Blueface and Croshawn. No, I really don't. I literally have posted like one of the... What's the other girl involved? Jaden. Yeah.

I literally posted her song on one of my pictures the other day, just laughing. It was like horrible. Great song. It was not great. Well, you know what my censored version of it is? You know how she says? Play me right now and then I want you to look in my eyes and tell me it's great.

And then I'll have to end the interview because I won't be able to take you seriously anymore. Okay, we play this song around my kid, but then we have to like... Why in the world would you ever do that? Have you heard of Stevie Wonder? Not as much, but... Okay, well, that's not my problem. That's a good song. What were the words?

Oh, so you know how she keeps saying mother-friker? Well, in Rapunzel, the woman who imprisons, Rapunzel inside the tower is Mother Gothel. And my kid is really into Mother Gothel. So I've replaced Motherfoot with Mother Gothel. And it works. I feel like sing it over it so that she won't hear the F word. And this is why I'm scared of hinge and having a child with any mail out in America.

Because we might censor Jaden Alexis songs. Because you might want to play it in front of my child. child will not be listening to that. My child will be listening to Stevie Wonder. My kid listens to all kinds of classics, but... Okay, good. Keep them there. Right. You remember when they used to, like, play opera? My mom used to, my mom is, is more diverse.

She would play me the biggest song in every different country around the world before dinner. Really? So I was, like, well-versed. And before I traveled around the world, it was working for charities in Africa and India and every other place. I knew a lot of, like, I knew Zap Mama, which is, a really great band, by the way. You should get into them. Arrested Development. I learned at like very young ages through my mom. I think probably got into hip hop through

arrested development and some kind of lane that took me on. But like I literally... What was there a big song? They used to be all over the radio. Arrested Development? They have tons of big songs. Tennessee. Tennessee was really big. Now, now, play Tennessee right now against that, what was it, Motherfucker, Motherfuckers? Well, I can't, but I can't hear you. I just talked my kid about this the other day. Scatman Did it up it out She's like I hyped it up so much

Before him keep it playing Let me hear that actually was good Let me hear it where it dropped Yeah it's like everybody dance now It's that like uh Remember that song everybody dance now It's like 90 it's like 90s retro pop type I hyped it up to my kids so much

And then I sat her down in front of the TV and played Scatman and she was just staring at it And I'm looking at me just like what the fuck like You want to know why that song vibrates has Kanye talks about this often. You want to make music that vibrates on all different frequencies of your body. That Jaden song

has like maybe two frequencies I heard in it. There's like a bass and a low bass and she's not given a vocal or any type of movement in her vocal performance of rapping or whatever she does. That song you just played, it's jumping all over vibrations because you feel it jumping, vibrating throughout your body.

A really classic epic song will make you vibrate from head to toe. That's how you know you have a hit. That's how you know you're listening to something that is all-encompassing. That's what's so problematic with this music. Aside from the fact that they're manufacturing drama for this big circus performance, that they title a circus and they're involving this whole generation and this whole era of drama. And I think all of them could offer so much more if they just tried a little harder to be interesting instead of faking drama that and will end up getting you into legal trouble, which hasn't it gotten

him into legal trouble? Yeah, but also like shooting people is part of what's gotten him into legal trouble. I honestly, like, I know Blueface pretty well. I've known him since before he was famous. I don't see him faking a lot of stuff. Well, I don't know what's fake or not. All I've seen in headlines is he's created a circus and everybody's going to watch and he's controlling everybody with his fingertips, like type of wording.

Yeah. Don't you think that's a bit silly? I mean, Jaden is like a pretty normal girl who's been like holding him down throughout all the craziness for like 10 years. I don't know anything about her. Then I saw a video of her beating somebody up like horribly in a very really, really aggressive way. Jaden? Who should beat up? There was a video of them.

Good for her. There was a video of them at a club and maybe somebody threw like some ice or water up in the air. And then she like started to, he blue face pulled the fan up on the stage. and then toss them over to her to beat up. It went viral. Why are we wasting our brain cells talking about this? I'm like absolutely about to like feel over. You don't listen to any drill music?

It really is the future. I just, I really hate that for music. If you've ever been in a studio with Timbalin and watched him on a four-wheel chair, scroll back and forth with 80 different sets of drum, Tyco drums and making samples so he could later use them in songs,

If you watch that for 40 minutes, you'd never talk about blue face, Jaden, and the other one's drama again. It's just all-consuming this young generation. And I wish that we got back more to the talent reasons of why we are fans of people. Right. Because I think the majority of the fans can't really explain why the music is great. They just love all the drama. And I don't love things that play into the drama because I think we need less. of it. Things in real life

are dramatic enough. We don't need to create any narratives. That Jane and Alexa song, though, I just got to keep it real with you. That song is a hit outside of the drama. Did she go into bed with you and your wife? Is that why you're defending her? I would never. The only man she's ever slept with was Blueface. That was the guy that she had sex

with, your wife? I saw a... What? I saw no wait, I saw a headline where you let her have sex with a black man and his big was bigger. That was Jason Love. Oh, I don't know who that person is. was that? It was a large male porn star. Oh, okay. Yeah. Did you not feel like territorial over your wife? No, I did. I think that's why it was so compelling to so many people. Why'd you do it?

I mean, hijinks, virality, money. I get money, but, zaniness. Viral, really? Did you, did you ever, um, you don't have any emotional damage in your mind buried from seeing it? Well, maybe the ayahuasca retreat that you're proposing will bring it out of me, but no, I feel pretty all right. You do? So you have an openness that I just don't have. I would be so heartbroken if I saw my wife who gave it. I've seen birth, so I'm sure you were in the room when she gave birth. But you spent years dating a married man.

Yeah, but marriage for them looks a lot different than marriages that normal people have. Well, I guess it's contracted. They're chosen. There's a whole thing. The counter to that is that sex looks a lot different in the porn world. No, I know that. I just feel like, I don't judge it. I think it's fine.

I don't looking at you any type of way. I'm just saying I would feel so like, that's my wife. Get away from her. Like protective of her. I did feel a little bit of that, but I feel like. How much money did you make off of it where it's like, oh, that feeling doesn't matter. I made this much. Untold riches.

Wait, tell me. No. Yes, I want to know. I want to know how much money it would take because I'm, listen, I'm just exploring. She would kill me if I told you. I'm just exploring OnlyFans. I want to understand how much money for what? What are the prices we're putting on shit?

I have this guy that I want you to work with. In what way? His name is Dredd. I don't like huge gigantic dicks. They're just a yeast infection waiting or UTI waiting to happen. I don't want it. Wait till you see this thing. And I like sucking a man's dick every day, maybe twice a day.

I love giving head to a man that I love. And I don't want to suck a big dick every day. That's horrible. That is the problem. When I watch videos, a girl's going down on the sky, they're nibbling on the top two inches of it. I don't even want dick like that. Kanye's dick is like that.

I don't want to dig like that. Allegedly. How do you know? I don't know. I don't know. You fuck Kanye? No, I did not. You're saying Kanye's got that big of a dick and we haven't heard about it until now?

Yeah, he does. That's facts. Yes, factually. I figured that would have been in like rhyme number one that he wrote in his life and then every other rap after that. No, he doesn't talk about it because he doesn't need to. He lives big, energy.

Have you not paid attention? I guess. He walks big energy. I saw somebody post a photo of him and it was like maybe it. got a wrong little poke in a certain area. And they're like, look at how small it is. And I was just sitting there like, y'all are so misinformed. That thing dangles past the knee soft.

What the fuck? Yeah, it's huge. I can't believe I made it to 40 without knowing about this. Yeah, it's huge. Kanye. I didn't have sex at them, but it's huge. Put it on the table. He can.

We want to see it. He could put it all over your entire body and you'd go missing. Pause. He better not put it all over my entire body. How much money would you take for that, though? I'm wondering. For him to drape his d'all over my entire but Kanye? Adam, can you slowly move me into the OnlyFans world in a way that I could feel comfortable with just light?

I'm not doing anything. I definitely, I have some advice for you. I want to understand it better. Right. I'm doing well. I make good money. That's why I definitely need you to sit down with my wife because she knows everything about it from a technical side. Oh, good.

I would love to know then. Yeah. Because I'm still very new. and I'm still learning, but I'm, you know, I'm only doing what I'm comfortable with, but I'm very interested to understand it. That's the problem. We got to go outside that comfort zone. I know.

You need dread. But I don't want to do. We'll dress them up like Kanye. No, I telling you, I wouldn't want to dick that big. I would never in my life. I like a, I like a boyfriend dick all day every day. Nice and a little bit thickity thick. So it feels good if you've got a thick one there.

because and it will feel great for you. And I like just enough length to make me feel like I'm being choked in a loving way. You know, like I don't need anything dramatic. Okay. No dramatic. No dramatic. I don't want it. I don't need it.

I'm 40 and I refuse it. I've got my own money, my own shit. I'm not in debt and I'm fucking living my best life aside from that shit right now. And I don't want to have to deal with any aggressive. Yeah. Yeah. I need a very nice. man with a well-packaged boyfriend

slash husband to fly my way. Do you know any? No. I only know dread. I only know men in the porn industry and then rappers. Oh God, no, none of you. And I don't want any of that.

Yeah. Maybe Blueface. Well, he's locked up. No, no, I don't want to be part of the drunk. I don't want to be part of the circus. No, thank you. But it would be great. It's fun.

I've seen pieces of it. I'm glad they're making their money good for them. But as somebody that literally has so many background tracks, on most of the music I've made that it competes with Brandy's Afrodisiac. I mean, we would make the engineers and computer systems do the little circle. Circling, they call it the circle of death pinwheel because we'd be blowing the computers down because we'd stack so many backs to have that many vibrations in our music.

I don't say it with any disrespect. I don't even know the girl. I'm sure she's lovely. She's much younger than me. I have nothing bad to say about a young girl. I don't know. I hope she's candling her money and doing her. thing and I hope she's really happy and she's doing things that she'll be proud of when she's

my age. Either way, I can't respect that music because I don't. It's no hate on her. I'm not trying to get involved in the circus. I just, I need my music to just be a little bit more difficult to make for me to enjoy. And I know what it took to make that song. And they were in and out after smoking a few of these. Shut up, gang, pomm.

Yes, they were. Yeah, no, I mean, especially when you listen to a masterpiece like Scatman, it's kind I don't know if that's a masterpiece. You're still not taking me all the way to masterpiece, but is a scatman paying you? Are you fucking scatman on the low for paid viral money with your wife? No, I don't even know the scatman. Who is the scatman?

Let's see what he looks like. Maybe we could get him to feature. I believe that like scat, like that style of vocal performance. Scat is also a sexual thing. Yeah, it's poop. Is it? Yeah. I used to have a member of our band that would low-key go to sex parties when we were on

tour in different cities and the whole kink that he was into. There's these, like, there's sites where you could get your kinks fulfilled. I don't even know what they're called because I'm not, I'm not doing that. Don't come from my only fans for that. I don't roll around a shit. But they'd put a full-blown, like, tarp down from Home Depot, down in, like, a pier space or, like, a rented building area. And then they'd all shit, and then they'd all fucking it. And he finally, like, he told me he was going to sex parties for the first couple cities of tour, but then he started to explain it to me.

Maybe he thought I'd be into it. But he told me that. was like, there really are levels to sex. I just don't know that I am, I don't think I can, I'm too old to get into that level. If that is something that, like when I hear, I when I heard about what you and your wife do and that also that you guys are in this functioning, loving relationship, it was shocking to me because in my head, I'm like, I can't make it all align and make sense because I would be, if I saw a man's dick that's been inside me and a man that's my soulmate that if I saw a don's inside of somebody, I would be physically sick.

And you could pay me $5 million. I don't want it. Right. But. You're approved. The other day I fucked her. I was going to say, I fucked her. I fucked my wife with another guy the other day.

For only fans. I think you guys are just able to separate sex and money and the business part of it with your relationship. That's a very advanced state to be in. I, I am not in that state. I also don't have a husband. So I'm not even capable of understanding that state. I do have friends that are an open marriage.

marriages and I think they're happier than my friends that are in marriages that aren't open. Listen, I'm Mr. Live and let live, do whatever you want to do. But I personally am going to draw the line at the slip and slide diarrhea orgy. That is just not humane. I was going to say, is there anything you won't let your wife? Because like I know my friends that are in open marriages, like they can't get the number and stay in contact with the person or they have to, the partner has to choose the person for them. Or there's rules still. We're basically like monogamous besides on camera.

But do you guys have rules for the on camera? Some vague rules. Like do you do let her just like tongue kiss a man? Kissing is one of the rules. Exactly. So you do. You love your wife. I am human.

Yeah. Okay. I get you now. Okay. I get it. That part makes sense because to me kissing is more vulnerable than fucking. Right. It's your mouth.

It's your tongue. It's your, you have to love to suck on some lips for a long time. And, rub tongues with someone. That's all kinds of fucking bacteria lives on a tongue. Yeah, that's overworked right there. I don't know. I don't know about that. You got a tongue scrape. That's what you need to know about that.

You do that? Just brush it. I never scrape it. Get a scraper. Are there so much better? You should tongue scrape at least 14 times every morning, according to Ayurvedic medicine. Every morning? 14 times. Because at night, your stomach is, especially because we don't have beds that are tilted. Even Elon Musk confirmed this one time in a tweet, I think.

Like, you should have your bed lifted to a certain degree to where your stomach can't gurgle back up when you're laying flat or on your side, it can then go back up your esophagus. And that's what gives people morning breath. Really? It leaves a coat on your, you could go to bed and have brushed your teeth and still wake up with morning breath. That's because does your stomach's processing while you're sleeping.

It's coming back up and it lives on your tongue. That's why when you scrape it, you're eliminating it. When you brush, you might catch a few, but you're not getting all of it. I'm glad we started this podcast talking about coffee and crackers. and then we end talking about scraping your tongue in the morning. And halitosis. Get a copper tongue scraper. I'm sure they have them on like Amazon.

It'll change your life. They feel so good. It's kind of fun for me to do. I love it. I've become a much more serious flosser over the past couple years. You got to. I hated flossing when I was young. I don't know how people teach their kids to love it.

It's hard. I floss my teeth after almost every meal now. Really? Yeah, because I just can't stand having little chunks of shit, but not shit because of what we were just talking about. But food stuck between my teeth. Especially if there's nuts. I have a question.

How much was the amount of money? Because I know you made some statement. Like once I make this amount of money, I'm out. What was it? I don't know. What is the amount of money where you'd be like, I'm not showing up today, guys. Sorry. I don't know.

I don't even, I don't know what I said before. But definitely like I can think of like outlandish. Yeah, go outlandish with it. No, because you hang out like actual rich people. I don't want to be over here like, yeah, I'll just leave everything. If I had a hundred million and you're going to be like, A hundred million. He's broke.

No, no, no. I don't judge people like that. And the men I love, I don't love them. We keep jumping around, which is great because I love talking to you. But when Praz taught me about threshold, it's not about money he taught me. It's about what can you withstand? Once you understand your threshold, let's end it on this actually. Threshold is a very important thing that very few people ever consider before they die.

And had they ever considered it prior, they would have had a much better life. what threshold is understanding what you can handle. Praz said to me, well, this will happen, that will happen. We're going to need to get your house set up with cameras that are this, that, and the other, we're going to need, do you know how to check your car for a bomb? You need to learn how to X-1. And I was like, you need to stop. All of that, just having me stress the fuck out, like, please.

And he's like, that's your threshold. Now, when you get right with yourself, you need to identify that that's your threshold and don't act outside of it. because when you act outside of it, your life is going to get to a place that you can't handle. So if you want a happy life that you can handle, understand what your threshold is, and don't act outside of it,

and you'll have a pretty good life. And I don't believe thresholds include money, but for some people I've talked with, debt is a real thing that they're scared of, that has them frustrated daily. So when you get that in controlled, and that means money is part of your threshold, staying at a certain amount of money is part of your threshold.

But whatever anyone's threshold, may be really taking the time or I think you learn it by feeding. Praz taught me mine. But what I learned about why I'm attracted to men, the men that I've always ended up with in life, which happened to be yes, all of those things that you said. I'm never dated a regular guy straight up.

What I saw in Praz that I was so happy about was what I had with Don, except finally it was with like a guy I could like, that wasn't corny. Don was a little corny. I had to edge him up a bit. I had to teach him how to talk in the streets. I couldn't bring him around all my friends. You know?

Dawn in the streets. I don't know. He learned. I mean, we got him proper sneakers and like, you know, cleaned him up a little bit so he wouldn't be laughed at. But like,

Praz already knows the codes. He was like, I could talk to him for real, for real. We didn't have to like, I didn't have to like upgrade him in any type of way. That man knows as far as style, swag and all that.

Right. But like, but he has the third. that he felt that he could have as much money as he had. You know, for the businesses that he was creating, I never have ever in my life been able to see myself having over $50 million. He had more than that. There's a kind of threshold you have as a human when you can imagine yourself having,

let's say, I'm just throwing out a number for no reason other than to just have a point. $50 million. I've never in my life visioned myself in that capacity. He has. So is Dawn. Something about people that have thresholds that just have no fuck are really willing to just go all the way there and then some. And they don't always end you up in good places. I think Praz is scared where he's at.

I think Don is miserable where he's at. I'm happy here and I don't envision 50 million in my life and I'm cool. But I really love a man that does because I want to stand next to a motherfucker that's got that kind of energy. Those men always win in ways that I like physically, mentally. Those are the men that can handle who I am. And I like that. So if there's any guys out there with $50 million on a nice body. No, not a nice body.

Not everybody had a nice body. decent body rent Don Jr. reminds me of the What's his name from American Psycho? Yeah he's very much Is he like wake up and do a thousand pushups? No, he got more fit Since I was with him

He was a little more round Okay But he's had his round round He was big big I felt like we got 50 million And I get round That's exactly how I feel Who the fuck wants to

But you know what Working out as I've Now that I'm getting up to 40 or 40 it's for our mental health. I agree. I got to run because I need my mind to decompress before I enter a conversation so I don't fucking trauma dump on someone

without their knowledge. Really? Like I did to your producer the other day. Yeah. We talked for seven hours. Wait, really? Seven? It was like six.

Holy shit. Oh, you should have recorded that. We could leak it. No, we were gossiping. That's nothing for the podcast. We were just having a girl's chat about life. But yeah, like when, Because I've been locked, by the way, sorry.

Because I've been locked up in my house for three months, I don't talk to many people. And when you don't talk to your people and it starts building to this level of heaviness, you can't just call them and say, hey, can we catch up? Because you've got to catch them up on so much. There's no time. That's true.

So then people like your producer catch it stray. Yeah. She's good for that. Yeah. Thank you so much for your time. Everybody, cop the only fans. Check out our collab coming soon on all the fans. Sign up now.

Listen, wait, could we collab in a way that I'm comfortable with? Because, you know, I'm not, I don't do all the things yet. Whatever you need. I'm open to. I want to meet your wife. Can we have dinner? Let's do it, yeah. Okay.

That's a great idea. Love that. Everyone says she's lovely that I like, so. She's great. Yeah. Thank you so much. Like, comment and subscribe. No genre, coolest podcast in the world.

Aubrey. This is my favorite podcast I've ever done. Really? Yeah. I told you it was going to be the best one. I was so scared that you were going to be all kinds of things. And you are just the coolest most down to earth. Super chill vibe.

Very real, honest. I pray to God that all of this just gets played as is. Oh, yeah. But like this was very, I don't feel like I was taking advantage of it. I felt very safe here. And I think your coolest fucking your wife's a lucky woman.

Thank you so much. And your daughter's even more lucky. Oh, I'll show you all kinds of photos. I was going to say. I want to see. All right. I appreciate you so much. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you.