No Jumper - Ava on Being Trans, Dating IShowSpeed, Introduces her Boyfriend & More

Episode Date: January 2, 2024

Ava Barbie talks about going viral, making content with Adin Ross, IShowSpeed, N3on, and more. ----- 0:00 Intro 0:45 Ava used to jump on streams to get her name out there, lookin hella feminine and hit them with the deep voice for comedic effect  4:00 Rice Gum asked her to prank Adin Ross 5:03 Adam recalls Neon disrespecting Gorlock, Gorlock allegedly didn't mind 7:27 Ava thinks these streamers having her on to shock and go viral, if anything goes left they apologize off-camera  8:40 Adin set her up on a blind date with Speed and they just clicked, but she has a boyfriend now, she doesn't wanna be messy  11:13 Ava is from Sac stayed there until she was 18, ran away from home, then moved to ATL 12:30 Ava says a lot of people are tr*ns for views: "Lotta these dudes put on a wig for views" 16:37 Ava made sure she had her bottom surgery right away 17:15 Says she never really used "it" before, even in previous relationships 19:11 She moved back to Sacramento, didn't have much bread, couch surfing 20:30 Then found a prior manager in LA who was a scammer 20:42 Then she started her OF made 30k the first week! She kept working, then moved to ATL 23:58 Ava has tea on China Mac! He used to "manage" Ava 25:45 He flew Ava to NY, used to hide in his hoodie didn't wanna be seen with her lol, she says no one else got paid, he owes money to everyone, he's now acting like he's Crip Mac bestie, anything for money  28:45 She then asked to be released from their contract, he's now trying to do a LGBT type of talent label  31:10 Ava met her bf on IG, it was love at first sight, he got exposed for dating her acting like she was dating a drill rapper, but he doesn't rap at all  37:00 Ava says you don't have to have misfortunes or any type of A to become LGBT, Ava had both parents and had a cool upbringing 41:00 Dude who took his clothes off on the street situation: that dude tried to get at her, she said no, he didn't handle rejection well, he tried to sp*t on her and she defended herself  45:40 Lots of famous dudes are tr*nsph*bic in public and slide in her DMs on the side 48:20 Adam wants to know how her ____ feels, he has never seen one like hers: "Stop talking about my ____" lol  50:00 Ava doesn't really talk to Speed anymore, shes still cool with Adin, she doesn't like Neon  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No jumper, coolest podcast in the world. And today we have a very interesting interview going on here. I was at a party a couple months ago, and I ran into Ava here. She started telling me about her life. And it was fascinating. And then I started doing my research and figured this was a conversation that we needed to have. Thank you. And I brought my boyfriend with me.

Dmitri. What's your name? Dmitri. Yeah, but Mietri. Okay. Got it. Okay. Okay, so I feel like a lot of people who are clicking on this are going to remember you from like the speed streams and all of these different content arcs.

But how did you even start to get your foot dipped into the streamer world in general? Well, I started with like, you know, going on lives with a lot of famous people like, like Frado, pretty boy Fredo and all them. Like back then, like I would jump on their live and like, you know, hit it. Like I used to make them call me pretty and stuff, like get it out of them and then hit them with a deep one. voice like you know so then like you know they'll be like everybody we'd be calling them gay because you know they wasn't sure like who I was and you know like you know if I was trans if I was a girl but how did you even you even get to know them enough to be popping in on the streams I just blew up off of like so I got into um I blew up in New York first I was on this one guy's stream

I forgot what his name was but it wasn't even a stream it was an IG live okay and like I just joined like he just added me like without anybody saying to add me and then like it blew up because he called me pretty, and then I was like, thank you. You know, like, everybody went crazy. And then I jumped off live. I went to bed. I woke up and I had like 10,000 followers the next day,

like after that live. So when you make these appearances on these live streams that are presumably mostly filled with heterosexual young boys, what do you feel like the reception that you get is? And like when you get a lot of those followers, what do you think it is that makes them so curious? I don't know I really don't

I just think that they probably think You know something I'm lying about being trans Some think I'm girl Some just you know like You know watching me Something I'm cute Someone to f***ing me

It's just you know A mixture of everybody Okay And so then what You just kind of keep The ball rolling at that point Like is this something Having this sort of clout

Character arc Was this something that you were always interested in? I guess I just I don't be posting that much either I don't keep it up for real It's just, mind you, and everybody still follows me. You'll see, like, my Instagram, like, people still comment and stuff. Like, I don't keep nothing up.

I just take any opportunity that, you know, it's presented. And if I like it, like, you know, you know, to be on this podcast was amazing. So, you know, I was like, okay, let me go. But I don't know. I just kind of live my life just, like, normally. Like, you know, and I do OnlyFans and stuff. So I kind of just focus on that mostly. Okay.

And, like, you know, like, I go crazy on there. So I just kind of, like, you know, stick to OnlyFans until, like, a. you know, like a opportunity for like, you know, like regular, like content, like being funny or, you know, podcast. So how do you go from these sort of like smaller Instagram lives to doing content with speed and all these guys? I blew up big over that. Like I got really big off that. Like, basically I woke up with 10,000 followers. And then I went live and I got like a thousand people in my live. And then I was like, okay, well, shit won't keep this going. And then they would send me lives like big people like, um, hot boy when he was big at the time

and like I jumped in everybody's live and I went from like a thousand viewers to like 10,000 viewers on my live and then people would like just go to other people's lives and be like at Ava at Barber like at the name at the time my name was Barbie so they would be like ab Barbie ab Barbie and then they like added me in there

and then I just you know did my created like a fan base pretty fast off of it and then rice gum hit me up to get on Aiden's live and catfish him and then I catfished him and then Aiden text to me me afterwards and was like, hey, on the picture on a blind date. Wait, so you catfished rice scum.

Did this, Aiden. Aiden at first, right? Right. Write your scum, set it up. Okay. Does that feel a little weird for you as a trans person? Because I know that, like, even just messing around with that would probably be kind offensive to a certain percentage of people, right?

No, I don't care. Like, you know, I'm not that trans girl that, you know, like, of course, on my demand for my respect. You know, I want to be called she, her, you know, like, things like that. But other than that, like, I'm not the trans girl that, oh, you have to call me that or I'm going to get like crazy. Like, you know, and if you call me, if you disrespect me, I'm just going to leave, you know. Or he going to just beat your ass, you know, something like that, you know. So that's just that.

But I'm not like tripping over like, you know, what anybody got to say about, you know, what I'm doing. Or I don't feel any personal, like, I don't feel any way about like catfishing these people are playing around because I don't do it as often no more. but even if I did, I don't care. Some of the people that you're talking about, like, Aiden and stuff, I mean, or Neon, like they've gone super viral and, like, their fans clearly love it when they're trolling Gorlock and all these people and just sort of like, not even just necessarily trolling, but in some cases kind of just, like, blatantly demeaning them. Like, the way I even got introduced to Neon was because I watched an Aiden stream where he was

interviewing Gorelock, and then he tells, or he brings Neon on, and Neon's saying all this, like, super mean tour. Yeah, I had a check. I had to check Robbie. It's different with Gorlock and her. Like, for me, they be, like, they be, like, they violated. They violated the fuck that, bitch. I'm not going to lie.

They're not violating me. She knows it, too. Right. It's funny. I feel like Gorlock's just showing up for the check. And that's the thing. Well, even if she's even getting paid, I didn't get paid to be on these streams. I remember them saying that basically, because there's, like, an Aden stream with her

where they're basically, like, negotiating on air because she's mad that she didn't get the amount of money or whatever. And that, it kind of makes sense for her disposition because she doesn't seem like she's enjoying it. She doesn't seem like she's having fun at all. She doesn't seem like she's even really trying to get clout. She's just kind of like, all right, I'm here. I'm going to listen to you for me a hard time.

So this is like, I feel like nowadays, like, um, like nowadays is kind of like, you know, different. Like back then, like on the stream, they didn't disrespect me. They disrespected her. Like, yeah. Like, I think they kind of knew better. But like other, like, even if they did. didn't know better. I was going to show them like, you know, you're not going to

disrespect me like that. I don't, I don't deal with that, you know, it's not me. I'm not going to like get disrespectful for cloud. Like, me, like, going on, like, lives and catfishing people is to my own amusement. Like, I laugh at that, you know, and myself, like, but for somebody else to disrespect me and, you know, like, you know, and it go viral like that, I couldn't do that. But you're just doing it for fun or you're doing it because it's only fans

promotion? No. I do only fans promotion a different way. All I do is host a little sneak pick of my booty or my, you know, my face and say, you know, I'm smart with it. So I know how to, like, you know, draw people to my only fans. Okay. That's a whole different lane. Like, you know, that's a lane that, you know, like, I know people know me from and people still want to see.

So I'm like, okay, I'm going to do it. And I enjoy it sometimes. It's fun, you know. Right. But, yeah, I don't, like, you know, I don't see the comparison with me and that, you know, that girl, I couldn't be alive and let them disrespect me. I always had something to say back. But why do you think that they want to do content with you?

Do you think that they just are fascinated by the trans thing? Or like what do they think it is? No. I think they want to do an interview with like trans women because I'm not going to lie, they've seen how viral. So I feel like Aiden's trying to create another speed with neon. I feel like you see like it's all the same thing just with neon. Like speed was like blowing up.

Then he brought a trans in, which is me threw us in together. And then, you know, kind of like made us like do the fake relationship because seeing how big it was. And then, you know, we went along with it. and then like, you know, like, I didn't get disrespect or nothing. Even if I, like, did a little bit, he always told me off camera who was playing around. Like, you know, like, you'd apologize off camera. They're really cool to me. And I feel like, like, you know, you don't see that all the time, like a trans with a guy that's openly, you know, with her, you know, and like, you know, like, you know, like, it was different between, you know, like on stream, he would defend me, speed and stuff, like, playing around.

Even if he, you know, he would defend me. And Aiden's too. Aiden's so cool. Like, they defend me. all the time like but you don't see like a trans popping out with like a straight male that people think you know it's like you know quote unquote I think they're straight because you don't see a man when you look at me so what kind of conversation did you have with speed before you guys started doing this content together because it was it's it's kind of funny like reading the chat when you

watch the reuploads of this content and you're just seeing like the fans having no clue what to think but they seem like very positive about it and I I feel like his audience kind of just wants him to do the craziest thing, like the next level thing, so they're kind of on board for whatever. Right. What was the question again? My bad. Just what was the conversation like with Speed before you guys started filming together? There was no conversation.

So it was kind of like Aiden set me up on a blind date with him, but Aiden told me who it was going to be. That's why I didn't have a mask, a little blindfold on it. But I feel like Aiden probably told Speed, you know, beforehand, like, what was going to happen? They went along with it. I don't know that part. All I know was I just showed up and he just went how it went. Okay. I felt like he had kind of coached you because it felt like you were just talking about him cheating, like, right away.

And it just felt like if this was a fake relationship, then that was probably made up. Yeah. Oh, so I forgot all about that. I don't know. Like, I just kind of like, you know, like went with it, you know, and like kind of like brought like real life situations into it to make it look real, I guess. Okay. Because I didn't know where we were going with it. Because if you're going to do like a fake relationship on camera, you probably have to discuss like what has our relationship been like so you're not just like making it up.

Yeah, no, we just, everything that we did on their live streams. What I did, everything was just off the head. Okay. All of us. I think for myself, I can only speak for myself. Everything was off the head because they didn't tell me nothing. And what was your experience with like, with speed like overall? It was good.

He's cool. You're not going to continue doing that kind of content or like could you see yourself doing that again? No, I have a boyfriend now. Like, you know, I'm happy with my man. And I feel like, you know, I could just start my own, my life kind of like over and rebrand myself. Like, you know, like, I take myself like a lot more, like, serious. Like, you know, like I play around still. I'm really funny.

Like, you know, but I feel like you don't see like this a lot. Like, this is real. This isn't fake. Like, you know, you don't see like a man popping out with like a trans woman like a lot. Like, you know. And I don't even like, I just consider myself, girl. Like, I just sit here and, you know, I don't. look like I'm in.

Like, I don't got a dick no more. Like, you know, like, so I'm just going to live my life with him and kind of like do YouTube and, you know, like, still like do funny videos here and there, catfish people here and there. But like, just, you know, go to flow of life, I guess. Okay. Tell me a little bit about your earlier life. Like, when you're young, where'd you grow up and everything?

I grew up in Sacramento, California. Oh, okay. So I'm from Sacramento. Until what age? Until 18. I ended up like running away from home And I've been I was like you know like Basically like I run away for a little bit

I Because I couldn't really be myself and then you know I start being myself and then You know I ended up getting into a lot of I can't really say I ended up getting a trouble for it Yeah like legal stuff So I can't really say nothing about that

But I like I start being myself a lot more And that's when like my whole life changed I ended up, like, blowing up big, like, you know, for just being me. And then I moved to, uh, surprise, Atlanta, you know, where all the trains go. I went to Atlanta for a little bit. I stayed in Atlanta for like six months left, came back here. What was that like being around so many people who were actually like you?

It was different. It was like, you know, like, I liked it, but I was kind of like, damn, like in California, it's not like this. Like, you know, like, there's now, there's a lot, but like, in 2019, like, beginning of it. I mean, the end of it, there was not that many trans, like, out in Sacramento. Like, you know, like, I feel like I kind of started the way for, like, a lot of girls, you know, like, that were, like, okay, I could be me. Or, like, not only that, like, a lot of these trans now are just trans for, like, clout. Like, that's kind of why I just took a little step back. A lot of girls are trans for, like, for views.

Really? Yeah, a lot of these boys put on wigs for views. Like, they do. I mean, that's what you see a lot of, like, conservative people saying and everything is that it's a trend. It's a social contagion. For sure, I believe that 100%. Really? That's why I don't be on the internet all the time

because I'm not that for that, you know? Right. I blew up off of, you know, but even like a few months before I even blew up, I was still being me and doing me without the cameras, without, you know, any of that. So you start transitioning when you were in high school? No, it didn't happen until the left.

Right after I got out of high school. Okay. Do you wish that you had been able to get hormones in school? Yes. You would have started at what age if you had control? If I had control, um, because I always like, so like with me, like growing up, I always like, like, if I had seen like a, for instance, I would see like the Victoria's Secret commercials, you know, because I'm 21. So back then they had like the commercials and stuff, you know. Damn, you're only 21.

So this just started unfolding, huh? Yes. Okay. For only three years. Um, I used to watch like the Victoria Secret commercials and I used to not think like, oh, I want to fuck this bitch, you know, like I want to be that girl. Like, you know, I want to be her. So you knew from a super young age? Yes, I've been known, like, for a really long age.

Like, I used to, like, do everything my mama did. Like, I used to try to be like her, like, you know, like. So, you know, I kind of like, I knew for a while, but if I had control, I'll say probably, like, 12, 13. But I was, like, really mature for my age, like, always because of how I grew up. Like, I was very mature. Were you trying to get puberty blockers or? Yes, that's what I was. That's why I said, like, 12, 13, so I could, like, you know.

But I wasn't trying to get that because I didn't know where to get it. I know where to go. you know I was kind of like stuck inside the house all the time. Were you Googling and just trying to figure out all this stuff about it? I was. But I didn't have a phone until I was 15, 16. Okay. So I was kind of like on my grandpa's computer.

Was there a period of time when you thought they were just a gay boy or no? No, not really because I never like, I don't know. I didn't like gay boys. You know, it's not saying, oh, I'm targeting straight men because I don't ever go up in my way to, like, harass a straight guy. or, you know, like, hey, poke my booty out there, or do something to, like, you know, sexualize myself or a straight guy. I kind of just be me and if, you know, like, for instance,

like, say if I wasn't in a relationship, a straight guy, like, said what's up to me, you know, you can obviously tell off my voice, like, this might be a trans, you know? But some people don't know. But anyways, like, I don't, like, you know, I don't go after nobody if they don't, like, go after me first. Okay.

For sure. And so, okay, you started transatlantic. in Atlanta once you moved or? No, I started transitioning before I moved. Oh, still back in Sacramento, okay. In Sacramento, I transitioned right when I turned 18 because, you know, I was an adult. So the doctors was just like, okay, and, you know, COVID hit too. So.

What better to do than to transition? Right. Well, COVID transition. Why not? No, but COVID hit and they didn't. A transdemic. Right. It really was.

Took me a couple seconds to put that together. Not really a comedian, but yeah. What was I going to say? Oh, yeah, so basically, damn, how to, oh, yeah, they didn't, they didn't offer, like, now you, if you want to be trans, you have to go through therapy and all this other shit. The doctors see, like, oh, all these people are doing it for, you know, clout. And being on estrogen and stuff and, like, having testosterone in your body for so long, like, it really did your mind. Really? Yes, it makes you depressed a little bit.

Like, you know, it makes you, like, depressed. It makes you, like, crazy a little bit. Like, you kind of, like, get, like, these little. like, you know, like, you just feel like insane a little bit. But like, that's why you have to go therapy and stuff for it. What was, like, how long into the journey did you decide that you wanted to get your penis out of there? Because they go a ton of trans women just keep it forever. Even if they've had the surgery and they've been on puberty blockers or hormones or whatever for a long time.

Oh, the, uh, the surgery and developed yet, you know? Uh-huh. But I've been wanting to do it. Like, right when I started my transition. Right. I did like I wanted to start like that you know but I ended up doing it last year in 2020 I mean 22 uh-huh um and I don't know it was a really good decision was it like saying goodbye to an old friend um I don't know I really didn't like use it so it's kind of like you know

and I'm being like really honest like I think I really didn't use it like for like we'd bring my like like old like any of my old like boyfriends did like I did not use it like like I didn't use it like Like, even during sex, don't touch me down there, you know? You just weren't comfortable with it? I wasn't comfortable. Interesting. Because I saw one thing we were saying that it kind of stops working once you're on all the hormones and stuff, that it's like, it's not going to get hard. No, it's still due.

It did. But probably because I was on hormones for only like a year and a half. Uh-huh. You know, I kind of waited. I didn't wait that long to just, but other than that, like, it's through due. It just, like, I guess, like a little longer it takes, but, like, your sex drive is very. low like with hormones okay and so what's that like they just create something down there and does it just work pretty much not right away but like does it work soon after like four months after four months

you got to wait like you know you got to heal like you know right so it just it works good really wow that's exhilarating so you just like I don't know do you feel like from your experience you think it's almost exactly like a real one because that's one thing I haven't seen I haven't seen a woman's vagina up close and personal? No, like, I don't know, because I never, ever, like, you know, like, I'm not a born woman, so I don't know how, like, a real pussy feels, you know, being a real woman. Because I've seen some pictures of what they do when, like, a woman becomes a male, and then they have to, like, build a penis out of, like, a chunk of their forearm.

And that's some wild shit right there. That's on something way harder shit. Way harder, right? Yeah, I don't know about that. Whereas male to female, you just got to get rid of it, and then. create a hole and I'm sure it's much more complicated than that but I mean I don't know I like this it's it's a good decision I don't regret it okay I really don't and so all right you moved back to LA or back to Sacramento I moved back to Sacramento and then um I ended up coming out here

around 2021 this is back traveling back in time um 2021 and then I was in Sacramento for a little bit but I was like homeless for a little bit. I'm not going to lie. Like I was at my uncle's house and stuff. Like just hop in house to house. Like even though I was big on the internet, I didn't like have nothing for real. You know, I wasn't making a lot of money.

Even if I did, like I was very irresponsible with the money. So I'd make around like 2000, 3,000 months. So, you know, I would still help around, help out with my, you know, uncle and everybody else's house I would be at. But for the most part, like I was very irresponsible and I didn't really have nowhere to go and didn't really have that much. And then I'm at speed aid and all them. I was thugging it with, um,

an old friend of mine inside a hotel for a little bit. So, like, I was living in a hotel in L.A. when I was with Speed and Aiden on their streams and stuff. I was living in a hotel, like, a nice hotel. It wasn't, like, you know, a little motel was a hotel. It was fun. And then I got a manager in October-ish, and it was the worst thing ever. He, like, he, like, stole money from me.

He used my name, like, because I was, like, bigger at the time. Use my name as like a thing for like brands and stuff like to come to him and kind of like, oh, she'll promote it. Take money and the clothes from them and then never tell me about it at all. So then I was like living with him, but he was just stealing everything. He was stealing stuff from me and just lying. You know, like, you know, it was terrible. But I didn't know nothing for a little bit. And then I ended up starting my Onlyfans and the first, like, the first week I made, what, $30,000?

My first week off Onlyfans. And I was like, damn. First week, holy shit. My first week I made $30,000. And I was just like, shit, let me keep doing this. And right when I made that $3,000, I moved up out of this house. And I went straight to Atlanta. And I kind of was, like, not smart at the time when it came to, like, apartment housing and stuff.

So I just got the first apartment I looked at, you know. So I moved in and then I got my first place. So then, you know, every week after that, it just got higher and higher. And I was managing my only fan. I've been managing my only fans for two years. And I just been, you know, I got like 150,000 subs on there. Yeah, because you told me. or you're like the biggest

I am like the top I am the top top trans on there and I got an award for it off of um so I have like an agency that helps me with TikTok and Instagram and stuff like but I don't really like

I don't really talk to them you know the party we're at Critus Inc oh it's them okay yeah so they like you know they have connections through Only fans like you know find like you know like what they need to find and stuff and they like told me they gave me a call

and they're like and they emailed me And Only fans emailed me and they're like, congratulations for being like one of the highest earned training. I mean, not trainees, but the highest earned trans on Onlyfans. And I was like, damn. Like. That's crazy because like I have had, like I had Emma Rose on here who I think won like trans performer of the year last year at Avians. And I would assume she makes a lot on Only fans. But then when I mentioned this to my wife, she said, she's like, yeah, I mean, if if you don't like how.

stuff on porn hub and shit, I don't. Then probably, like, a huge percentage of your fans are just going to the only fans, right? I don't have nothing on porn hub. I don't have nothing anywhere. I have a team, a legal team that takes anything down off of Reddit, all that. So my stuff's not nowhere to be found no more. Like, at first it was, but I have a team now that will delete anything that has my face on it.

So, like, nothing's, like, people buy, like, constantly. Like, my only fans, like, I thought after a while it died down. Like, I was like, okay, damn, the first year I made one, like, like, like, almost two million up the first year by myself and then I was like okay maybe you'll die down now but this year I'm not gonna lie like this year was way better than last year like I did a door dash video like a little door dash video thing and like that shit literally made me 300,000 the first like the month of May for doing what is this I like basically went to the door and I was like um a door dasher came up and I was just like oh he's fine let me try to you know basically like have sex with him and

people went crazy for it yeah wow That's unbelievable. Yeah, that is kind of like one piece of advice that I usually give to people is like if your only fans starts doing really good, like be stoked on it and work on it, but also don't necessarily expect that to stay as profitable because you never really know like how long people are going to stay interested for or whatever. But damn, that's crazy. I do stuff like zero expectation. You know, like with the podcast, like I kind of like I know that I'm coming on here, meeting you, like we're talking, but I don't really expect nothing. nothing from it for real like I don't expect like oh any viral moments or any of that I just kind of just let everything you know flow in my life well they probably appreciate like so many people are faking shit out here and just right if not faking shit just like doing so much dramatic bullshit to get attention like everything is just a possible viral hook yeah that's not how they really are yeah yeah I'm doing that today I got some bozo talking about me online about the dumbest thing ever yeah oh my god you want to hear something Adam, this is your lucky day.

Oh, what? This is about China Mac. Oh, God. This is your lucky day. Wait, wait, wait. He used to be my manager. It's not an op, but it's like a goofy-ass internet dude who just talks about me all the time because he got nothing else to talk about it. But Adam, he used to be my manager.

Really? How was that? It was terrible. He hid me and my friend for like the whole month he worked with us. He did not want to be around us. So he would basically, we're in October, 2020, me and, you know, Timmy Thick. Like, remember Timmy Thick? Timmy Thick, but it's the black Timmy Thick, basically.

It's basically the, he took the gimmick and you just, you know, it's just, you know, Timmy Thick, basically. So, because he's not relevant no more, so it's another one. It's this one right here. I'll show you. Yes, but it's basically the other version of him. Timmy Thick, so what? It's like a midget dude with a fat ass? It just, it's, he's about my height, but it's just like.

It just looks tiny in this photo that comes up. tiny. Timmy Thick wasn't a social experiment conducted by, this is like the first. No, no, this is not the first Timitik. Harvard Experiment Viral Star. Anyways, what I'm trying to say is it's the black Timmy Thick. It's not the white Timmy Thick. There's a new Timmy Thick.

I never even know there was one. It was during this pandemic that it all happened. But basically we went to New York together. I know it was supposed to just be me and we ended up making music together, right? and China Mac flew us out trying to Mac flew me and him out we went to his house he slept in his basement

but he was like he was cool with us but it was like everywhere we went he put his hoodie on he did not want to be seen with us like he was just hiding us but he was paying for everything so we didn't give fuck we're like okay bet you pay for it

you can hide all he went like we got a like the whole music video that we shot have a music video out in 2020 the whole music video we shot like he was hiding in the back with a hoodie on acting like he wasn't there in a mask like even the person

So everybody that, like, worked for him, they didn't get paid because they didn't know who they're working for. Like, he was like, like, he owes money to everybody. Like, the people, like, that shot that music video, the rental guy, people who recorded our music. He owes money. He owes them all money. And I hit them up because I wanted to use their studio when I go to New York with him. And they're like, oh, last time y'all came, y'all ain't pay us this. And I was like, I had nothing to do with that.

Right. Like, that was all China Mac. But so why do you think he wanted to manage you if he's not? Because he's seen, like, you know, I don't know why, but he just seemed like, he's seen, like, in 2020, I was really big and I did it all by myself by doing, you know, just being on my phone and going live and stuff, you know? I think China's kind of desperate. Like, he's trying to make anything happen for some money because he got nothing going on. Why do you think he came out here and, you know, jumped on the 55, you know, a little train. And then he talks like he's Krip Mac's best friend.

And it's like, bro, like, that was the only possible thing that was going to keep you in any sort of limelight. Yeah. And it's like, we see it. We understand what's going on. And the fact that you're acting like you're actually best friends with this dude who, like, they had like a breakup. Like they were broken up. Like a couple weeks ago, Crip Mac fell out with him. And now he's acting like he's his best friend.

And now he's, I'm pretty sure he's not like doing nothing like talking to him or making sure he's okay. Well, he has to talk about me now. Well, China Mac has to talk about me because now he has nobody to make content. He's also called Chase his shit. Exactly, yeah. But so how did you like fall out with China Mac or did anything else happen before this? We fell out. Banja, we signed.

So me and him. like we went to a lawyer and everything together and like created like a label because he wanted to create a label and all that because like he was going to have like all his like basically his resources repost our music video and everything and basically after the music video got you know conducted and you know mix the mastered and edited and everything he was not trying to send it to us for some reason and I was like send me my music video and he was like no like basically I don't know why or what happened like because I I totally forgot kind of just wiped him out my memory but it's funny because I seen you talking about him today like on your story.

No, that was probably one of the most random connections that I never expected. People are going to think that we plan that out. Exactly. And it's so weird because it's just like, you know, how God works. Like, you know, it's just like, damn, like. God did. No, literally. But he, like, kind of like, wasn't trying to like, I forgot exactly what happens

so I can't really speak on it. But I just, he just was on some weird shit about the music video. And he's trying to, like, I guess, in a way, make us pay for the music video because he owed him all money or something like that. But he was just, like, I was like, okay, well, you're, moving weird like you didn't answer me like a whole month you're not trying to like be an actual manager so it's okay just unsigned me or like give me like some type of like evidence that I'm not signed to you no more he ended up doing that we just didn't talk ever again wow that's fucking crazy

right but I got a music video out of it so I'm not tripping do you think that he was trying to sign like other trans people at a certain point there I think he was trying to create like a little like LGBT plus or whatever community this is so strange I know I think he was trying to you know because he's seen how big like I guess the community was or whatever he wants to you know You know what I guess I could kind of see the vision. It's just kind of like if you are homophobic and you are not really trying to be around this sort of thing, like why would you do that, right? Like, you know, just leave me alone. Well, you're just going to hide the whole entirety of the person your manager's career.

You're just going to try to totally stay out of it. It is. Like walking around with your hoodie on with a ski mask up like this. Right. Everywhere we go. We're going to a fucking little Indian food place. Yeah. What are you expecting to get out of this?

And he's being quiet. We had to order. He should have owned it. He should have just been like, yeah, I'm a gangster. I'm a thug, but, you know, like, I'd be managing trans people now. This is my new thing. Like, I ain't in any of it, but it's my new thing. Like, that at least would have been, like, interesting.

It would. And it would have made him go up, like, some type of way. Or it would have put him down. I don't know. Because he was in prison for a little bit, you know, so I don't know how that went for him. Oh, I don't know about that. Yeah. But holy shit.

So then what do you? He was in there, tickling booty. Oh, my God. Or something. Did he admit that to you or something? No. I'm not going to put them allegations on him because that wasn't true.

Dear Lord. Yeah, but he's like, he's just, he fakes everything online now. I know. It's crazy. A lot of people do. A lot of people, everything you see online is fake. All these people's lifestyles faked.

Like, I know that for a fact. I got some shit that I want to expose that he faked, but I kind of feel like, what is it? It's just, it's too much. Because it's like there's other people involved that are going to look crazy. Oh, well, what is it?

No, I'm holding back. I'm keeping it in the trunk. I might have to pop the trunk, but I'm keeping it in the trunk for now. You got to be like Salino Pile. Always keep an accusation in the tuck. Oh, yeah, I see what she did there. It's trying to be funny. Not like a tuck?

No, I didn't know. I didn't. I just show of playing. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, different tuck. Okay, but so then how do you guys end up meeting? Does that come soon after this? That came about five months ago. Okay.

How did you guys meet? I met in New York. Where at? city just out on the street no you riszed her up no I texted her on Instagram okay we end up meeting in New York that's where I'm from uh-huh yeah like we just never left each other side it's just instant connection or what yeah it's like love for a sight for me amazing yeah was this your first walk on the trans side yeah never been with a trans before but was that uh exhilarating was it different it kind of was like I like I've like I

Like, it wasn't different. Like, it wasn't different. It's just like when it popped out, like, because they posted on the NYC drill page. Oh, okay. I got a lot of hate for that shit, seeing who my real friends was, fake friends was for me.

But ever since that shit happened, like, Al-a-key, like, don't give a fuck about it. Like, nobody got to say, like, because... You were already doing some drill rap shit before this became news? Nah, I wasn't... I don't rap at all. They were just talking about you

because she was kind of known in the scene of a little bit. basically, like, she said, oh, she was with a drill rapper, like fake kind of, like, trolling shit. They seen it. And then everybody was trying to find out who it was. Everybody was saying, like, all these different drill rapper names and shit like that. And then what's her called?

This Molly G, nigger, I don't know, like, he's like a drill rapper that fell off posting me. And then that's when, like, everybody knew. And I was like, damn, like. So you didn't know him or anything? He just started talking about it? Like, Molly G, I followed him on Instagram. I don't know how to fuck he found my shit, but I followed him because I used to fuck with his music and shit.

And then he posted me, and then that's when everybody was just like, oh, it's him, it's him and same. You know why he posted him, though? Because all the drill rappers, after I posted that, all the droll rappers were getting the fingers pointed at them being, you know, gay, quote unquote. You know, like, oh, no, it was him.

No, it was, he was him, it was him. But mind you, I wasn't confirming nothing. I wasn't denying nothing. I didn't say nothing, right? I just said, you know, here's a little, you know, like, I'm with a drill rapper playing around. And boom, you know, like, I didn't know, like, people were going to go crazy. Because there's some other drill rapper whose name, I can't even remember already, but they were saying he was hooking up with Sydney Star. I see that shit, but I don't know his name either.

I forgot already. But that was, like, a couple weeks ago. That really sucks for him that I don't remember his name because that was kind of, probably, like, his biggest moment that he was going to have in his career. He was trying to get an interview off of it, too, but I'm just kind of, like, looking at his numbers, looking at everything and I'm like, I don't think I can just interview you because you just happened to fuck a trans person, dude. I feel like that's, like, our shit kind of went like kind of crazy. Like, I be honest with you, I feel like, like, anybody that follows that page knows

about it, like for me. And then not only that, multiple pages posted it because, you know, also me being, you know, who I am and then also being known, like, people are posting it, you know, and then TikTok, I have a big TikTok following and so the videos got like millions of views with me and him. So, you know, we're kind of like, you know, everybody know about us now. Definitely. So, yeah, I've had like some weird experiences in this realm because, like, I had a host on this channel and we interviewed a trans porn star who basically, when she came on this podcast, her whole goal was to expose that this friend of mine had fucked her or whatever.

And I tried to have the editors edited out, but they missed, like, one instance of his name being said. So the whole world kind of like figured it out, our fan base, figured it out and it became this whole big thing. He ended up leaving the channel. I guess mostly just because he was, you know, embarrassed. He didn't like the fact that it got exposed on the channel. How did it feel when it got exposed? Like, what was that like?

Honestly, I was just like, I didn't really care too much, but I was like, damn, I never got like so much hate before that. Everybody called me gay and shit. I got people calling my phone on some shit. I'm like, what? Like, fuck you're talking to like that. You know what I'm saying? So, like, I just seeing who my real friends was and who was.

and who was fake. You know what I'm saying? Because I still got friends in New York and shit like that. But like, that's basically what happened. But I don't really don't care what nobody got to say. Because me personally, like, if anybody asks for I'm gay and shit like that, I don't see myself if I'm gay. Like, for me, I don't think I'm gay at all.

Like, I'm not sucking dick or doing some weird shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm where I'm going to. So you never would have thought of being gay prior to this? So that's like your first time even having somebody to throw that idea out there? What? the gay thing. Like, you never thought of yourself that way or whatever.

Was it a little bit of, like, was it tricky in your head to even DM a trans person? Or you're like, oh, fuck. Like, is this? I'm beyond for true. Like, when I just, I just seen her, I was like, because I knew who she was before. Like, I seen her on, what's it called?

Doing the catfish shit. In 2020, I was always on my phone on the live and shit. I seen her doing shit like that. But I just, I don't know, like, I scrolled into her page and I saw her since she was in New York. I was like, I was looking at her shit. I was like, because I'd be honest with true, like a lot of people be catfish on fucking

on Instagram and shit Catfish and like looking ugly as fucking real life or just fully not being the same person that they're pretending to be So I was just looking at her shit I'm like she looked good Like you know what I'm saying texting her and

It's been good ever since Yeah Do your parents feel weird about her or anything? My mom She's a Christian So she's on something She's like she's delusional So she'll be on some weird shit

But I still talk to her and shit but she's not to accept it at this point you know what I'm saying right definitely and you guys have been together how long six months about five six months what do you guys do together for fun what's a random day hanging out like okay so like we played like the game in here like we play the game together we like we are together all day every day like we'll go out the gun range

we just went to Hawaii we travel we just you know whatever comes our head you know any idea we got we just go do it together living life together that's dope being happy. And then, you know, even though, like, you know, his mama don't, like, accept it or whatever, I'm cool with my parents, my mama now. So my mom's married to, like, you know, not my dad no more.

So, you know, I deal with my mom now. So, like, you know, my mom closed, my sisters and everybody over there, and they all, like, you know, love him and, you know. Was your mom weird about you transitioning at first? No. Okay. It was just my dad. That's all.

You know, and that's the thing, like, another thing I want to touch on is you don't have to be touched to, you know, be gay or a trans. You don't have to, like, get touched on your younger. You don't have to, like, you know, have one parent. You know, I had both parents never been touched in my life, you know. A dad that's straight as fuck, you know, was gang affiliated, all that, you know. And then, you know, like, I grew up in that type of household and couldn't be myself, you know. Even though I couldn't be myself, it's like, you know, I finally got to be myself.

And it was just, like, amazing. And I didn't have to, you know, go through anything to, you know. I spent my whole life just assuming that gay people never became gay due to, like, circumstances. in their life and that everybody was born gay because that's why I was kind of told my whole life. Although I have seen some interviews with different people who like work with kids or work with like, you know, teens and shit like that. And I've heard some people and I don't know how much I trust them, but I've heard people say like that they, they believe that like a gigantic percentage of people who end up being gay

were abused as kids. Do you think that there's any truth to that? I don't know. And I don't, I can't really speak for them because, you know, I'm not the one doing the studies. But all I can do is speak for myself. Like, you know, I don't consider myself gay or, like, you know, I just consider myself as a woman. You know, I did my shit. I transitioned and went fully into it and don't regret it and I'm happy.

And, you know, like, I'm not going to speak on my past fully, you know, because, you know, I love my mom. I'm not going to, you know, just throw her under there like that. But, you know, like, I did go through things growing up, but it's not, it's not that at all. Like, definitely not that. Yeah, I don't buy that shit at all because when I think it's, about it. Like, I had, there was a dude that I went to high school with or like, elementary school and like, I could, I knew he was gay like when I was in like second grade, third grade. Yeah, I mean, it was so obvious. I barely knew what gay was and he was gay as

fuck at like, in like second, third grade. And then by the time, I think he came out when we were like 12. And like, I remember being zero percent surprise and just feeling like, yeah, of course, of course. I bet everybody knew. Like, absolutely everyone knew. I think absolutely everyone knew. I told my mama, Like I literally thought she was gonna like not like it Because I literally just texted and I was like This is who I am and I blocked her right On my birthday You blocked her before she responded?

Yes I was like I don't know I don't got time for that negativity It's my birthday today so I blocked her But she ended up texting me off a fake number And let me know like I love you and you know I kind of already knew

But she like played the role of she didn't know You know like no I never thought it would be You know But she like it was a whole different reaction Than I expected you know Wow great Has anyone ever talked shit to in real life or anything when they see you guys walking around ago?

No. Ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever. That happened. One time we went to Times Square, and I can't, oh, what's it called? That wasn't even nothing. That was a kid, though. That's the thing, and the plea, like, that's the thing, like, it's a little-ass kid saying something,

then we don't even know what he said. He just said something he pointed at me, and he got off basically, you know, to go beat his ass because there was a group of them, but, you know, they look grown, but I could tell that they're kids and I seen the police right there, so I was like, come on, like, we're not going, like, do this right now.

Yeah, you whoop a 12-year-old. It's probably not going to be good. It can go like that, though, because your mama ain't teach you nothing. And you might get whoop, you know, talking shit to the wrong person. That's just how life goes. You know, if your mama ain't going to teach you, we're going to teach you. Like, that's just how it goes. Okay.

A little butt-wooping. So what, yeah. Well, what led up to the situation where you guys ended up stripping a guy naked? Because I saw New York drill official post this. And I was like, whoa. Like, I had DM'd you a couple times about the interview after we met. And then I'm just scrolling. through NY drill official, which I look at all the fucking time, and I just see that

you're on the stripping somebody. I'm like, what the fuck? Spin on that, nigga, and shit. Basically, this fat guy, basically, like, he tried to get at me, and I was like, no, thank you. And I kept walking. He got mad. And that's crazy because, like, women got to do with this.

Like, you know, like, if you don't want to, like, say yes to a guy, if he try to get at you, they get aggressive nowadays. He got aggressive and tried to spit on me. Oh, I got something for you. Went in the car, got him, and we just turned up on him. And, you know, and then we laughed at him and made him strip because he was scared, like, because, you know, some shit, you know, went down. We had to do our thing.

And he was scared, and basically, we were like, get naked. We were, like, we stripped him, threw a bottle at him, spit on him, spit on him. And we drove off. Simple. And he actually got naked. Yeah. He took his pants down and then tried to run. What the fuck?

kind of dude was this? He thought we're going to let it off on him. That's the way. He must have been on some shit, but. I don't think he was, I think he was scared because of what, you know, how he was, you know, he was stuck, you know, at a point. But you got to be careful in New York with that kind of shit, right? That's the thing.

They're going to be careful with us. Like, well, I'm not scared of nothing, you know, and I know I pray every day. I know God got me. And I don't go around disrespect to nobody. Right. And I know people go around disrespect to people because they think they like that, you know. And one day you're going to run into the person that's actually like that, you know? They actually grew up like that.

And that didn't be like that for the internet, you know? Right. And you're going to get your ass whipped or something's going to happen to you. What was the reaction to that post going viral like? I was just like, oh, my God. Like, I deleted it off my story instantly because I was like, I don't go to jail for this, you know, because, you know, like, I'm not sure if there's camera footage or any of that. But, like, I don't think I go to jail for it.

He did it first. He tried to hate crime me first. That's what he got. Holy shit. That's crazy. So, okay, like, how else are you planning on monetizing this current level of fame that you got and everything? Just got, like I said, go the flow. And I'm just going to keep doing me, being me, accepting any opportunity that presents itself.

And, you know, posting pictures. I like to post pictures like fashion, like doing, you know, things, you know. I like going places with my boyfriend. So I'm going to record it a lot more. I don't record nothing. I kind of just weak. I kind of live in the moment with him, like, you know, just go around, having fun. Like, Hawaii didn't record that thing.

Really? But yeah. Oh, and back to like when we met, it's crazy because it's so weird how he found me. He found me like, and I was only in New York for one day. I literally flew out there for one day. And it's so crazy because I literally was like, that's from my best friend at the time. I was like, I'm going to go out there. I'm going to get a boyfriend watch.

Went out there and then like he's texting me and I was only going to be out there for one day. Boom. Hit me up. You think a lot of your fans are disappointed you go to boyfriend? Um, I'm not. I think so maybe because a lot of my fans are boys. Right. Like if I go to my like little.

group it's all boys like damn near it's a lot of girls but it's i think it's like 70% boys right and it's like you know like they watch me i'm not sure what for like i don't really like you know pay attention for them but i just kind of like you know see that's the kind of weird thing about it is that whether it's you or whether it's my friend that i was talking about it's kind of like people act like it's the weirdest fucking most offensive thing to be into but then you know because because of the numbers that you're doing on OnlyFans and everything, that it's obviously not that uncommon. That there's clearly a lot of dudes who walk around and say that they're straight

and that that's what they're into. And it's... That's the thing. I have a Cucci. Right. I don't have a dick, so they're not watching dick. Right. You know, they're watching Cucci.

But then, Cucci, I have never, ever posted my shit on, like, any type of... I just post my booty in my face. And that's like saying that, you know, a guy's gay because he looks at a girl and she she has a fat ass and he likes her because her ass and her ditties, you know? Right. She's kind of ugly in the face, but he fuck her because she got fat ass and tities. Oh, he gay because of that? I've been there.

Because a lot of trans girls got big ass and big tities. And, you know, they look like women. So it's kind of like, oh, he's gay for like in a girl. Right. That's how I think of it. Like, you know. But there's definitely, there's got to be something about it that a lot of dudes, it's like their secret fucking fetish or something. I don't know.

I don't think so. Like all the guys and I'm intimate. Yeah. Well, I feel like there's got to be a lot of dudes who are into it but would never admit publicly that they're into it, which is, which is, Why you kind of come off as like brave for like not giving a fuck and actually being willing to be real. And there's people still trying to say I'm DL. Like I'm not down low. Like I'm obviously out here with her.

Like there's a lot of DL niggas in New York and shit like that, that they be on some shit. That were in my DMs. That's the crazy part. A lot of these famous people that are talking shit on any of these little blogs and shit were in my DMs and unsent the message. Literally says a step message requests by this person, but there's no message there. The music who texted me. Drill rappers? Yes.

A lot of them. FYBJ, May. A lot of them were talking shit. I'm not going to expose nobody, but, you know, a lot of these...

Would you ever try the whoops? What's that? The cereal right there. That's your brand? No, that's the Drew Wrappers. It's the homie, but, yeah. I don't know who you're talking about who?

It's the guy on the box, FYB, J. Main. No, I have never heard of it. He's a super into trans women. F-Y-B. Damn. I'm not going to expose none of them because, you know,

that's not my place. But a lot of them were, you know, in my DM so you know and I don't I don't expose people because on top of that I don't look at myself as a guy you know like I have a like like I said a hooching and I don't look like a man and that's the thing like so why would I go and expose anybody you know that makes you know everybody think that I look at myself as a man yeah because look at Sydney star everybody looks at her or even you go to Selena Powell it's like once you get into that box of being an exposer it might take you like 10 years to to get out of that.

And if you're lucky. People kill themselves over that. Oh, yeah. I know, like, people kill themselves over that. And I'm not that type of person. Like, I couldn't. Like, you know, I'm good. Do you think that you would prefer to date a biological woman or a trans woman after, if things didn't work out?

If things didn't work out, I'm honest with you. Things are going to work out. Like, yes, definitely going to work out. But if they're hypothetically. I'm not saying hypothetically, like, I wouldn't date another transatlanticly. and be honest with you like why

it's just not really your thing to be honest with you like she I look at her she's a previous trans

I've ever seen like in my life to be honest with you and like usually most trans they have like a dick

I'm not like win that shit like you know what I'm saying right and yeah I mean

this is what people really want to know is how is that man made pussy hidden I'm gonna keep it a buck like it's the same shit. It feels the same.

It feels totally the same. Yeah, it feels the same. It's just like, it's kind of hard to explain. It's the same shit. Are there lips? I'm not even sure I've seen one. Or lips?

Yeah, what's the vibe like? The vibe is, like, to be honest. Stop talking about my coochie. The vibe is like the same. Like, with a real female. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I look at her as a real female. Like, I don't see a trans.

It's like, do the same thing as it's supposed to get's way. It grips. It does all that. You guys do anal? Of course. But, like, that's the thing. Like, you know, like, I started off with that. So, you know, I'm never going to get rid of, like, you know, doing anal, you know?

Right. So. Damn, that's dope. Yeah, because that's, like, the number one question that I always get in terms of plug talk and everything is, like, when will you fuck a trans woman? And I've resisted it up to this point. But, you know, it's always kind of just, like, lingering in the back of my mind. Like, fuck, that would be very. progressive for the culture if I were to shake the nation by just doing it. And you know a lot of people like a lot of

rappers a lot of people and they maybe want to fuck on trans. I know but then they also someone like young bug is like you spend his whole career denying it somebody like little jay spent his whole career denying it to the point where it's like why are you even bothering denying this anymore like this is so obviously something that has actually happened that it's like why like but it's like they want to take it to the grave even though it's already like documented in the media and everything I have no idea about their lives or what they got going on with anybody else live your truth guys right and that's what I've been doing damn um so do you still talk to like speed and Aiden or I talked to Aden here and there we don't really talk to no more okay like it's kind of like

you know I like he's just a past friend right Aden I talked to him here and there we talked here and Because he always gives me little opportunities. Like, you know, Andrew Tate, I got on live with him. Yeah, I was like live a Zoom call with him. It was really nice. He didn't disrespect me or nothing. Why I would have left? I literally, like, Aidan knows that.

Edon knows that about me 100%. That's why he brought that big girl around, you know? Because he knows that she's going to allow that shit. He's not allowed to get this. He needed a transfer so you could go on more. They're not going to disrespect me because I'm going to put my hands on them. Right. Yes, like neon, like, if you watch the little YouTube video, he tried to disrespect me.

He's a big trip. I had to bounce up on him. Like, what are you talking about? Really? Yay. So you're not feeling the neon vibes? No. His manager Kane was saying that basically they're going to switch up his whole style

because they, like, neon said that he was going to like basically like punk Donald Trump. And so then as a result, Dana White had him banned from the UFC event that he was at because he was on stream saying that he was going to do whatever to Trump. And then they kind of had a similar situation where like he was on live stream with Krip Mac and shit. and then, like, as soon as he got away from CripMag, he was like, fuck Crip Mac, fuck 55th Street, yada, yada to the camera. And it's kind of like, I don't know how serious Crip Mac took it, but it's like, that's kind of a weird content style.

If you're going to just violate everybody as soon as you're taking shit serious. Like, that gang shit out here, they take that shit serious. Like, as fuck, I know that for a fact. Like, you say anything out here, you throw up the wrong sign out here. Get a little closer to the mic. You throw up the wrong sign out here. You say anything about that hood, they on your ass. Like, that's how it is out here.

Did you see that shit with him, like, he constantly kept on doing, like, the naughty bob shit. You heard about the bad pop? Oh, yeah, yeah. He kept on doing shit like that. Like, he's just trolling. And he's just trolling. And the next minute, he apologized. You could tell us not no sincere apology.

I don't want to get my ass to be so. I'm sorry. He called Crickmack a Crabb, which is like. I know. Disrespect. You don't see it. Like, nobody does that as a joke out here. He didn't find his face?

Well, he was acting like he was reading the chat. But, like, that was a weird one. Yeah. And it's like the gang. shit in New York is super serious, but I don't know. Out here, it's a next level. They'll hit your ass with a car. Yeah.

Out here is like, you could get away with a lot more out of head. New York, you could get away with shit. You just got to be, you got to move tight. In New York, I hear a ton of like seven-year-old rappers, dissing gangs and shit. Whereas out here, the only people that I hear putting gangs that they don't fuck with and all that kind of shit in their lyrics are usually like a real deal gang members that are ready to actually die. Out here, for real, they're not looking to be cloud chasers.

A lot of these people are crash dymies out here. They do things to get, you know, respect and they hood. Like, they go do dumb-ass shit. You know, like, they care about the hood's opinion and not the Internet's opinion. A lot of the rappers everywhere else care about the Internet's opinion of getting famous off being a blood or crib versus L.A. I feel like a lot of these people out in L.A., they, like, they do shit in real life to show their hood and the Internet.

Oh, I'm really like that. You know, so, I mean, either way, it's dumb as shit. know, but that's how I feel. Definitely. So, okay, are you guys working on any kind of like content series or anything? Like, I feel like that's the next opportunity is you guys create like your own stream or your own vlog channel or whatever it might be like to really talk about your lives together. Right. And I'm going to start like blogging YouTube because, you know, like people like a lot of people, like I get a lot of views on Instagram.

Like I get a lot of people watching me. A lot of people say do YouTube. And I know that I know that if I do YouTube with him, it's going to go. crazy, you know, because you don't see that for real. And on top of that, like, people like watching people who got money, you know, and that are authentic, you know? Yeah, that's when you guys are describing your life. You're like, we go on trips. We're just in Hawaii. I'm like, oh, you know, he's just having a good old time running through that only fans money. Literally, but I'm not done with it either. Like, like, I'm smart. Like, I don't, even though I have

all this money, like, I don't be buying a designer like that. I don't, like, I don't care. Because, you know, it's just, I feel like it's just the outfit or, you know, like, chains and stuff. Like, I got a little chain. Like, this chain was, only two, three thousand dollars and I could have went about a $50,000 chain, but I don't, I don't care for none of that, you know? Like, why like, put yourself at risk to getting robbed and all this other shit, you know? Yeah. Like, I'd rather just go have fun with my money. I'd rather help my family with my money. I'd rather, you know, just, and then save it, you know. Yeah, it's basically my perspective, too. I'm scared to ever go back to how it was.

Yeah. Somebody was on here the other day, we had a $200,000 watch on and I was trying it on. A, I couldn't figure out. I couldn't figure out the latch. Yeah, I'm interviewing them and just run out of my own studio. But like just trying it on and I immediately just had this vision of like, well, could I own this? I mean, I guess I could see myself own this, but then I'm like,

do you want a $200,000 piece of fucking metal in your house that's just basically like a big fucking advertisement as soon as you put it on social media that like, hey, come rob me. You could take this thing and make enough money to pay for whatever the fuck you want to do for the next couple years. I mean, I don't really feel like putting a big fucking sign on my head.

head that's why I don't be doing that's why I don't like that's why I'm so glad that he's not like that he's not materialistic either you know and who about the burberry hoodie he did he has his only fan okay you don't splurgeon on them no I do but we do it to each other like you know like I'm just that type of personal like I like I like I like I'm like I'm a I'm a it makes me feel good you know like spending stuff on other people and you know making them smile and stuff that's just how I am and I like that you know I'm not really like a, oh, you can buy me a lot of stuff. Because growing up, like, it wasn't like that.

So I just got used to, like, you know, make other people happy, you know? If I was single, I might really be a dirtball and just be like, man, fucking, I'm going to get an only fan of his wife and just have her buy me mad drip. But that's the thing. I don't buy him. I don't buy him a lot of stuff. I know, but like when I was just looking at his hoodie earlier for a second, I was just thinking like, oh shit.

I wonder if he got her to buy him that. So I had to ask. He buys me and stuff, like this little diamond necklace. He bought me. Like, it's just the little things that matter to me. Like, he has bought me a lot of stuff, like purses, like, just anything. Like, anything I want, like, if I want food, he'll go get it for me. Like, he does things for me just as much as I do stuff for him.

My relationship is 50, 50. Like, you know, like, that's how it should be. Like, you know, we're happy. And we do stuff for each other, you know. He has his own money. And it was like that from the jump, too. It was, like, right when I met him, it wasn't, like, nothing like, oh, like, I want to, like, can you get this for me, keep this.

It was, do you want this? Like he offered stuff for me first He offered to pay for stuff for me first And you know It just went like that And I like that too Like to see like people that don't like To just you know come in my life

And know that I have money And you know try to use me Because that don't end up well for people I easily just blocked by Because people can't use me It's hard And that shit's weird as hell Like I'm like

I'm with you Like you know what I'm saying Like I'm with you Because of you Like not because of your money Or anything like that That's some weird shit Like I don't

Some bullshit You know what I'm saying I feel like I'm like I'm with you like you guys need a Zeus show. A Zeus? Yeah. You seen Zeus with the baddies and blueface and all that shit? She'll go crazy on that bitch.

Although I don't know if you guys seem dramatic enough. Well, then you have the story about stripping the guy. I guess that's pretty dramatic. And there's a lot more stories about a lot of shit that we're just not saying. You guys be getting fucked up? Uh-huh. You get fucked up together? Like drunk and stuff?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But sometimes. You'll be going to laugh. Yeah, like, we're too crazy. Too crazy.

Yeah. too crazy. Yeah, alcohol and love. Very toxic combination for a lot of people. Yeah. Yeah. So be careful. No, I know.

Trust me, I learned. Yeah, I mean, when I think about... I literally like my car and everything. I'm not going to bring that out. I lost my Mercedes 80s because a whole bunch of shit happened when I ended up getting a fight. Can I say it? What?

About the car. Oh, no, we're not going to bring up. But... The insurance company is watching. Huh? The insurance company is watching. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. I mean, they might be.

It's just embarrassing for him. Embarrassing for me, because why would I do that? You know? Okay. But it was funny. I feel it. Afterwards is funny. I think this honestly was like a really important piece of concept because, like you were

saying, like a lot of people just aren't really up front about their relationships and shit. And we've got to normalize it and let people know that trans people are just people. And they're able to find love. The ABC community. ABC, you call them? I'm joking. Okay.

You really don't really see shit like this, to be honest with you. No, you're a strong man because I know that the people will be talking shit, but I myself, I'm also in an alternative lifestyle where my wife is occasionally getting fucked by other men. And how do you feel about that? I feel pretty all right about it. Like deep down inside Adam, for real. No, I'm chilling. But a lot of people seem to, like, constantly be fascinated by this.

Like, I can't do a fucking interview anymore without people bringing it up. Yeah. Well, we didn't bring it up. Yeah. We didn't bring it up. You brought it at first. Well, that's true. And now I'm going to add.

So how do you like, how do you feel about that? You actually feel like. Yeah, I'm chilling. This is, this is you guys getting interviewed for the record. I don't know, but I'm asking some questions. If they want to hear me talk about it, there's plenty of resources for that. You aren't talked about it a lot? Yeah, infinite times.

It's actually kind of insane how much people still want to talk about it. But. So you feel some type of way. I don't. It's just kind of. Do you like it, though? Do you like? Yeah.

It's a kink. Me and her, me and another dude bang. her together. Was it a kink though? I didn't think of it as a kink before that but after having done it the other day, yeah. You know, I heard of something about Pete Ditty and Cassie. Like, you know, like he used to like pay guys to come over and fuck her.

It's that type of kink. Okay. I thought about making a reference to that at one point when that first came out but then I realized that the accusation is that he was doing it like non-consensually. She was kind of like being forced to do it, which I don't really want to lump myself in with that. We were just having fun, yeah.

Right. On the same page. Yeah. Okay. So where should people reach out if they want to stay in touch with you guys? Just my Instagram. That bitch Barbie, D-A-T-B-I-E-T-H-B-A-R-B-I-E-E, and then TikTok, Stack and Barbie that's about it.

Just my little Instagram, my little TikTok and Twitter, but I don't be answered on Twitter for my only fans, which is A-H-O-V-B-L-L-L-A. But, yeah. Tap-in. You guys heard it here first. Tap-da-B-Bitch, eh. There it is. Appreciate you guys. Appreciate you. Thank you so much.

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