No Jumper - Baby Sh53ter Joins Adam & Wack to Discuss Getting Brutally Attacked in Jail

Episode Date: July 4, 2026

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Starting point is 00:01:01 We live here today. I almost forgot, bro. What? Man, you know, I've been at the house, fertilizing the grass. We need the topics, nothing. You know, running around, messing with the power washer. Are you just being a handyman today?
Starting point is 00:01:18 Yeah, man. I'm like, I said, oh, man, it's Thursday. You would have no jumper been so wild. It ain't too many times. I'm actually talking about some of the shows you had up here, man. you got the rabbit guy that was a good fine I like him
Starting point is 00:01:34 yeah I told him I talked to him the other day I said listen man you got loosening up and talk yeah we need that close the trunk
Starting point is 00:01:42 we need that bullshit going on he's a really cool guy nice guy but yeah he got to like figure out where he fits in podcast wise
Starting point is 00:01:50 a little bit more but I like him he has the perfect controversy just being a black outsider oh yeah yeah but guess what
Starting point is 00:01:58 he's not really a black Blacksican, no. Why are we, we should only be live for members? Fucking Nathan. You change it right now, or? Yeah. He should, he's not really a Blacksigan.
Starting point is 00:02:14 He's from a Mexican game, but Blacksikins really act like Cholos. But he don't, he acts like a regular black. He acts like a regular black. Because I had no idea. Let me make sure this ain't him, shoot. Yo. He said, why you? I get troll calls every day.
Starting point is 00:02:39 I get troll. I get at least 30 of them a day. You're a whack, why are you fucking with the... I don't want to say the word. Shout out to the LGBTQ community. No, shout out to them. They're awesome people. Some of them got fire busy.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Oh, how do you know? I just hear great things. That's crazy. You're having them conversations. But yeah, so he ain't... You know, he's a little different. He's the first one that I saw that, like, you couldn't tell. You can't tell he.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Wait, who? Rap, you can't tell, you know what I'm saying? He still act like a normal black dude. Uh-huh. But I think if he loosens up and just lets his personality just be him. Yeah, yeah. Now, he got a lot of support. A lot of people like the throwing of things in the trunk and all that.
Starting point is 00:03:26 That's well appreciated by a lot of people. I told him he got a money-making place. in there too as well. What? Think about it. We laugh. When you get to a point where you don't mind a dude making fun of you, right?
Starting point is 00:03:41 And you got a light. You got a rare light. So can you imagine up-and-coming people whether you're a rapper, your artist, or whatever you may be, you got some merch, you're promoting a reality show, right? Open the trunk.
Starting point is 00:03:57 He closes the trunk on the BS. Imagine if he starts to open the trunk on promo. Well, he already is doing hell of promo. No, when he opened that trunk? No, you haven't seen it. He does have like a, damn, that shit ain't bad or something.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Well, you got the little, the rusty hood, the trunk opening it with the squeaky noise, and then boom, whatever it is a person who want to market and promote. People will pay for that. Yeah, he has his rates at the end of every episode, which that might take some of the magic out of it
Starting point is 00:04:27 if he's doing too much promo. I haven't really seen too much of it, but. Yeah, but other than that, I mean, you had a wild table. I'm like, you look like you had the nutty blocks, the East Coastes. So you explain the dynamic to me because, okay, I just want to explain on Tuesday, my mentality, as long as the Tuesday show is in a little bit of a state of chaos, was let's try out a couple different hosts.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Yeah. So we try out Rich Rabbit, and we were going to have Rios, who used to be part of Puns Network, who now is kind of Solo Dolo. He was going to be on it. Something came up that he had to take. care of. So at the last minute or last couple hours we had to find Nutty who previously fought King Pill, who's a cool guy. He's from Sacramento. And we, uh, Nutty was late. So we start the podcast without Nutty. Nuddy walks in and then soon after, boom, we get money bag rose
Starting point is 00:05:19 and a couple other dudes. And I didn't think that there was anything weird about that. And then you, and I seen a few comments saying like, damn, Adam putting, uh, put and Jay Hood in a trick bag by bringing some of these dudes around, which I'm thinking, what the hell is that mean? I don't think what they were saying was because money back from East Coast, the other brother, what's his name? Was it Ice or something like that? King Ice, I think.
Starting point is 00:05:45 King Ice. He's from East Coast. And actually, you know, the thing with Jay Hood, one of the major booms of Jay Hood's reputation is, he knocked out 50 plus East Coast is in the county jail. So that's who his Stevenson Village, Carson, Crip, set beefs with? Yeah, I say because the 1-9-0s are down there. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Right. So, but, you know, Jay Hood didn't have been around. People know him. He didn't have it. He didn't did whatever he did and whatever. And a lot of people either respect him or they just don't like him, but still a lot of respect is cool. But I believe, you know, when you. jelling with somebody you'd have been through it with them right you know you guys usually find
Starting point is 00:06:35 eventually a some piece to where you guys coexist but as you see the dude ice he addressed an effa and what he said was real he he's listen man look if i got a homeboy that come in and he hit over here and y'all know that we upstairs or wherever downstairs whatever it may be y'all choose to max him out and just not give him his fair ones or whatever y'all max him out and take shit from him, right? Yeah, at that point in time,
Starting point is 00:07:11 it ain't the approach that half-a's taking is, well, that happened to him and he didn't get out. About shooter? About shooter, right? We part of the gangster car. Gangster car is supposed to get off. That's what some of those are saying to me. He's a neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Ice is from N-HC. So his side, he's on the side, he's on the side, the doer side. He's saying the gangster car was supposed to get off for the NAC car. I'm telling you, because if it would have been vice versa, the huster car would have got off on the gangster car because they want to send a message that y'all not just going to do that to all people when they land, especially when some of y'all people up there with us. So when he said that, and have a response.
Starting point is 00:07:55 oh man you're saying this this this that and the other but you're sitting there with Jay Hood and Jay Hood right proclaims to have done this done this to East Coastes but see and I'm noticing I see why him and Sporty kind of get along because they don't receive structured positive criticism
Starting point is 00:08:18 Gumby approached Ant in a respectful way and told him bro you're doing too much talking for the type of case you have. You say approach them. You mean like made a YouTube video? You're doing too much talking for the type of case you have. You got a game related on alignment. And you constantly on the phone saying you're in the middle of or you part of or you
Starting point is 00:08:41 the one to go to for this, this, that, and the other. And he's like little bro. He's like, look, you can't be Channel 7 news. I fought your type of case, which he has, right? And FAA don't hear that. He says, yeah, well, Gumbie. you know, you stabbed somebody in front of the police. And you was talking and this, yeah, but see,
Starting point is 00:09:04 Gumbie ain't fighting a murder right now. Right. Whatever Gumbie did, he beat his murder. Right. Right. He's home free. So he's telling you from experience, he might have made the mistake, you know, right?
Starting point is 00:09:17 This is not what you want to. So anytime somebody tells and points out to N. N. A.fe, what you're doing. Right? Instead of him hearing it, he attacked. I guarantee you this, mark my words, when it comes time for his trial, everything that he has said on that phone will be in his trial documents. The DA, listen, if the DA, if the sheriff went and pulled baby shooter out, he was in Wayside.
Starting point is 00:09:47 When they were looking for him, he was in Wayside already. When they pulled them out and press play on that damn recording, hey, is this you, this shoot? this, this, this, that, and other, if they have identified who that is, right? They have definitely identified what Ann Hefe's been talking about and they have delivered that to as district attorney. Character, bro, you're supposed to be playing gospel guy right now. You ain't part of nothing. Man, I was up there getting toilet paper.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Yeah, I grew up over there, but I ain't had nothing to do with what them guys is doing. I'm just, this is where I live at. So you still saying, you're patrolling, you're going to, you talking, you're refereeing. And then he throwing people names out there. He did a whole clip and named some dude from Harlem that we didn't know. But was talking about his case? Talking about who was involved. Oh, with the shooter.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Yeah. Okay, okay. Right? Now, you got shooter's attorney, attorney Jasmine on there, given a role called criminal penal code violations of what happened to shooter and saying, guys, it's probably not smart that you're identifying yourself in your gang
Starting point is 00:11:04 and saying you did it for this reason and these reasons, because they don't even need him because you have the recording where you have identified yourself in what you've done and what you're doing and who you're doing it too. Now it was one dude put itself out there. Some loose canning ass shit.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Right? It's one dude put itself out to it. Tell on yourself. and hefe the other dude from hauling he threw him straight under the bus that's crazy um okay n-fay i'm a big fan of him hope to have him back on the podcast once he inevitably beats this case but from me talking to everybody it seems like it's almost universal amongst people in the l-a-street podcasting scene that number one aunt hfe is saying way too much about his own case way too And number two, the Ant Hefe is saying too much about other people's shit, meaning the shooter case in particular.
Starting point is 00:11:57 A lot of, I mean, and I'm going to be real with you. It's like, I've seen that on the podcast with him over and over that someone would have a criticism of him. And it would be something as simple as like, yo, aunt, like, you shouldn't be eating on the podcast. Like, Dooboy said that. And I mean, I'm going to be real with you. Like, where'd he go with that? But almost everybody agrees that you shouldn't be eating on a podcast. If you have to eat on the podcast, maybe like, you know, move the mic away.
Starting point is 00:12:20 chewing, be mindful about it, whatever. And, like, kind of just launches into this, like, multi-minute long rant explaining why actually shut the fuck up. You know, I'm, you know, like, and it's not like a lot of, like, points being made necessarily. It's just basically, like, y'all ain't going to tell me what to do. And I feel like everybody who watches the No Jumper show pretty much knows what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:12:43 And that being said, you know, that's part of who he is or whatever, that he's kind of hard-headed or whatever. But it feels like when I watch the YouTube clips, of him excusing himself for speaking on shooter shit, speaking on his own case or whatever. He kind of goes into this sort of long-winded filibuster. He's making it seem like he's the guy. I'm the go-to guy, which they say that is a leadership role.
Starting point is 00:13:09 They're already saying it's a group of guys who did this to this guy. And then they're saying you sent the guy to go take some money out of his vehicle, right? This is what they're saying. You ain't supposed to be in any way trying to make it seem like you're that guy. Right. Hell no, but he didn't did so much, bro. Since he's been in that jail,
Starting point is 00:13:36 he put himself at the murder scene. He put himself there. I got here at 9 o'clock. Those guys were at 6. When they was in an altercation with them, I was buying toilet paper. And that detail right there is... That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:13:48 What multiple dudes who came... with Nutty like Rose were really emphasizing to me is like it is crazy to say those dudes were there from six o'clock on I got there at nine etc which I mean on one hand like there's video from the fucking parking was those probably not really doing that much but you're definitely removing your ability to say that's not me listen let me tell you something just because they're video right when you got a good legal team they're going to attack everything the DA comes with Okay, when's the last time that system been serviced? How do we know that that system's not delayed?
Starting point is 00:14:25 Okay, it's the date. I've seen people beach hit and you got cameras. Like, time zone has changed and you can go back on the cameras and change the time zone, right? The time's off. So because the time's off, well, we got reason to believe it may actually not be accurate. So now the time, but see what he did, he eliminated all that defense because I was, there at nine o'clock. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:51 He put itself like, bro. But I will say this, Adam, guys like you, guys like me, the camera's the camera. We don't give a damn if it's on or all. Sometimes when people get on stage, they stop thinking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Well, I mean, I think Aunt got used to living his life on YouTube, you know, and just making videos about whatever the thing you want to talk about. I was just watching the video of Fulio's killers getting sentenced. And, you know, these are dudes who were running around acting gangsters making drill songs, blah, blah, blah, and then when it comes time for them to get sentenced,
Starting point is 00:15:26 they all talking like, you know, good little choir boys and just acting like they would never hurt a fly, and I'm so sorry, and Jesus told me that blah, blah, blah, and it's just like, damn, like these dudes did the most gangster crash-out shit you could ever think of just to end up in a position where they're basically acting like the biggest bitch you could ever act like in front of this judge. It's not to make like a biggest bitch.
Starting point is 00:15:49 They're acting who they really, Or. I mean, I think they're acting. I've got some real homies that's fried. But they might get to prison and start acting like gangsters again. But at least in this moment when they're trying to get a little bit of grace from the judge, they'll act like the biggest hell alive. Now, if Aunt Hefe has actually found guilty of what he's being charged with,
Starting point is 00:16:09 chances are he's going to be standing in front of the judge portraying a fake version of himself in which he asks for forgiveness and talks about some shit, whatever. Because it just doesn't be who. you in any way to act like you're a gang member or act like you're on some street shit when you're being charged with this shit. Adam, they're going, listen, mark my words. When his trial comes, there's going to be a whole day or two of character statements. Right. They're going to, because remember, they're saying at Hefe is the shot call.
Starting point is 00:16:43 He's the ring. They're going to say, Mr. Hefe, what did you mean when you said five bands will get you whacked? that too what are you just kidding what do you mean about what do you mean about
Starting point is 00:16:55 when you said on the county jail phone he should have shooter should have kept me G-A G-N-G-S-T-A he spelled it out he spelled it out what are you
Starting point is 00:17:04 and then maybe we would have moved what do you mean we would have so you are a part of you do it what do you mean right here when you said you know you went down
Starting point is 00:17:12 a tier to go check out what was going on and you approached one of the guy he named the dudes name set with you from all crazy. I was like, damn, I didn't even know dude was involved.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Right. They're listening. Right. You know, now, you know, if he felt like it's no big deal, where we come from, anything added to an open situation, it's a big deal. Right? And he's painting himself as that guy. You don't want to be that guy right now, even if you are. Right. You don't, you want character reference letters. You can call it your auntie. That pastor, you still cool? I need the character reference letter.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Let him know I was down there, you know, helping the church, whether I was or not. I got something for his pot. You want you, you want these type of things coming in. You know what I'm saying? You don't want to be on there seeming like you motherfucking. You don't want to like give them sworn testimony, basically, that you're a fucking gang member and that you're capable of all this kind of shit. You're the man.
Starting point is 00:18:18 You know, shout out to Ricardo. J Bravo. He said, Adam, how do you advertise on your show? Adam at, or actually, Josh at nojumber.com, probably the best email that you could hit. Yeah, and tell him you want to do it on the Adam and Wack show because he takes all to add to the other shows, to his indie shows. Indy?
Starting point is 00:18:33 Yeah, your independent shows. This is the mainstream show and everything else is indie. Well, whenever it's you one-on-one. Okay. Yeah. We need, like, WAC-specific advertisers to pull up to this platform. That's what we need. That's what we need.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Get some, like, diaper competitors or something. I don't know. Man, that diaper shit been giving me a headache all week. I can only imagine. You know when you end something, but you're new to it, and you got to really figure it out. And I'm not one of those dudes that just say, hey, get it done. I'd be wanting to know what's going on, so I'm learning what's going on.
Starting point is 00:19:09 So when I'm faced with it again, I understand it a little easier. But I think I've got a couple more documents. I got to sign. I'll be leery about signing them. I shouldn't have mentioned diapers. I'd be leery about signing them, warehousing, you know. That's what I've been doing the last couple of days, for real. Visiting warehouses are all kind of dumb shit.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Right. I'm not going to dig any deeper into the baby shooter thing because people might have figured out already that we do have baby shooters showing up at some point. Yeah, he's probably being around to us today. All right. Yeah, man, you know, when he called, he called me, said, uh, cool, all right. He called me and he said,
Starting point is 00:19:49 There's, hey, man, whack, they pulled me out. The shit didn't win viral. I said, okay, well, you said, I ain't tell them nothing, but they're listening to it. They know my voice. They, you know, the dudes are saying their names and they, all this type of shit, right? He said, listen, call your attorney, see if your attorneys can put a call in. Right? Because he had about 48, 50 days.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Okay. So. They got him out just because of this. So they actually got him out. They helped. What? Turney got depressing. Turney got depressing, impressing, impressing, impressing, and pressing, and pressing.
Starting point is 00:20:25 And they know, look, he ain't in there going to court. He ain't fighting the case. He got some punk time. Yeah. And this shit is going high profile. Turner's like, well, you know, we're hearing things and we don't know exactly what's going on. But if something is to happen to him, so they didn't heard them tapes. And they hearing all that, um, content, things like that.
Starting point is 00:20:46 So they kind of was like, shit. Man, did we leave him here and roll the dice? A kick to get this motherfucker up out of here. He's already on probation and parole, whatever he on. He's not here on a new beef. He got some punk time because he was supposed to just do a quick turnaround and let him go. We knew that. He's already been sentenced and all that, right?
Starting point is 00:21:06 He was only there because he forgot to file his paperwork to run everything concurrent while he was there. And we knew. I said, let's see, we're knowing the next three to five days. and when I seen the FaceTime call from his phone, I knew he was on. Yeah, no, it's crazy. But I'm glad he's back. I'm looking forward to hearing about how this all went from his perspective.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Oh, yeah, we got some questions. Oh, yeah, yeah. We definitely got some questions. Okay, so are you keeping up on the academics versus Charlemagne beef? Because I feel like that's something that deserves our attention. the last maybe a week or something ago one of the spies hit me I didn't know who they was
Starting point is 00:21:52 because I didn't know it was going on they're like yo tell act we got all the information on Charlemagne in this situation this situation that situation and when I called him and I sent him the screenshot of what the people sent me he was kind of reserved about it so I don't know who act was reserved about it I mean okay I think
Starting point is 00:22:12 I think, Ack has always considered Charlemagne to be his ally in the game, right? He's always felt like they had a good relationship. He looked at Charlemagne as like an elder statesman, somebody respected, whatever. But then in recent memory, or, you know, Ack has kind of become much more clear-cut apps with JZ and Rock Nation. Not that they've ever actually, you know, interacted. But clearly academics is bothered by the fact that Rock Nation is seemingly throwing their legal weight around to mess with people like himself,
Starting point is 00:22:44 people like Grand Chat Wizard, who has basically been unmasked as a result of this whole investigation, not to mention the fact that Act basically considers himself OVO, and then you got Drake, who's on the receiving end to some disses from Jay-Z and all this kind of shit. So Charlemagne basically
Starting point is 00:23:00 calls up Ack on some friendly shit and says, basically, like, tells him that Grand Chat Wizard, who is, is an Australian Asian man who is clearly like intimately involved with hip hop culture on the internet, probably not so much in real life. But this is one of acts closest confidence that he works with on everything.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Grant Chat Wizard basically runs the academics TV social media accounts. He runs clipping campaigns for all kinds of artists and shit. He basically is just like him and act work together on all kinds of stuff. Allegedly Grand Chat Wizard talks to Drake all the time, whatever. You know when I tell you shit, I give it to you. So you can read it where you're done. Okay. Those two tap them.
Starting point is 00:23:47 They do tap that shit. I don't know what he's talking about. Me and Charlemagne always been good. This is spy number one. New number. I see academics going in on Charlemagne. I have information on Charlemagne if he wants it. You say what info.
Starting point is 00:24:02 They say, ass play. Amber Diamond from whiling out. He would pay her bands to shove things in there. asking him about the condo in Fort Lee. He still hasn't stopped cheating on his wife, and he was about to be exposed until he paid. His former bodyguard, Wax, Charlotte screwed him over because Wax was fucking his side chick.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Whoa, that's crazy because do you remember Wax? Big ass bodyguard. But people have always wondered what happened, and the narrative that they had was basically, like Charlie Man wasn't paying Wax good enough or Wax was getting a little too uppity but if that's true that could fill in a lot of gaps.
Starting point is 00:24:47 You see that's May 29th. See people will be wondering where I get shit from now. I sent it to act because I didn't know when he sent it, I didn't know what he was told so I just sent him to academics and I called him but he was kind of reserved. I'm like, bro, what's going on? Why they, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:25:04 And he really didn't say too much about it. So you're saying Okay, but this is the thing. So Charlemagne, basically, the theory is, is that he's so intertwined with Jayze and Rock Nation that he's acting on their behalf. So Charlemagne calls academics at some point and basically tells him that Grand Chat Wizard is a snake that he's cooperating with law enforcement against academics, that he stole money from academics, etc. And Act basically deduces that this is a message that's being sent to him from Rock Nation on the, but they're using Charlemagne as the intermediary and At gets pissed off about it right away. And I could be fucking details about this. I don't think so. But he basically takes it as,
Starting point is 00:25:50 oh, you fake as f***ing. It would be like if, you know, if you came to me and said like, hey, yeah, it would be like,
Starting point is 00:26:01 well, I don't know. I don't even want to try to think of like an example that like lines up with it. But basically, Ack was offended at the idea that Charlemagne would come to him and say, hey, there's all this f***ed up.
Starting point is 00:26:11 shit going on. You're in a lot of danger. You got to separate from this guy. But also, I'm not going to tell you anything about like how I know this or I'm not going to give you a proof. You just have to take my word for it and act on it. And also in addition to that, you have to consider the fact that academics, despite being on good terms of Charlemagne or whatever, there's been a lot of little shit over the years. Remember Loon? Yep. Charlemagne signs Lune to his podcast network. And the first thing that Charlene does is bring Loon on brilliant idiots and he spends two hours talking shit about academics. And then basically makes that his whole campaign to get on in the game,
Starting point is 00:26:44 his Loon just shitting on Ack. And then also on top of that, Ack did the podcast for Spotify for a few years. Yeah, two years. He still does podcasts, but somehow Charlemagne never made his way over to Ack Studio to do an episode, which you would think Ack doing podcasts for like four or five years would be pretty logical for him to f*** him.
Starting point is 00:27:04 He never said out with Ack? He never did. And that's kind of weird. I got to keep it real. He don't fuck it with it. I mean, because Charlemagne goes on Vlad, they passed up their beef. Yeah. Now Charleman will go on Vlad.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Charleman goes to all kinds of random ass podcast. Not that he's like doing a ton of random podcast, but for somebody like Ag is like biggest in the game, why would you not do that? So now the academics and Charlemagne beef is like, it's kind of right there ready to pop off. Act has said like a few things that are sort of dismissive about Act or about Charlotte where he basically feels like Charlemagne is fake and just reiterating talking points for Rock Nation. but really Grand, A.K. Grand Chat Wizard is the one who's really used this as an opportunity to start heaping shit upon Charlene bringing up his old rape case, bringing up whatever kind of negative shit they possibly can about him. And basically it's the kind of situation where, like, I could tell Grand, you know, chill, don't go in on Charlemann. That's my ally. But he's not. He's not. He's apparently let the dog off the leash. And then meanwhile, this dude, Grand is dealing with crazy loss. suits and, you know, they're trying to like basically put criminal charges on them and everything
Starting point is 00:28:14 like that. Like the elder statesman of hip hop who feel like the machine, that there are accounts that are maliciously going against them are basically fighting back in the form of like, you know, doing legal hijinks to go out grand chat wizard, which is, you know, they already exposed who he is. He didn't want people to know that he was a chubby Asian guy from Australia or whatever. And I don't know. It's just, it's getting crazy out there. I'll tell you this, when act decides to say, screw it, it's up, it's going to get nasty. Yeah, we've seen this. It's going to get nasty because over the years, there's no doubt that people have fed act information, act knows certain things.
Starting point is 00:29:03 But if he always looked at Charterman as an ally and a friend, now he's getting a little leery. of him. I think it would take Charlemagne to just come out right now and do some radical shit. Yeah. Then he'll, it's home. But like, Charlemagne's been like dropping the breadcrums suggesting that this is, that, that he has all this shit that he can weaponize against AC and everything. And it just hasn't like fully launched into a war. Now, I don't think, like, Charlemagne's not going to play the war the way the Act is. No. He's not going to sit there on brilliant idiots and just trash ACC or whatever.
Starting point is 00:29:44 But AC will run content for hours and hours and hours about Charlemagne and like really negatively impact his brand and his reputation in a way that as big as Charlemagne is, he won't be able to necessarily handle. We've kind of seen this before. And I'm not saying that acts can be able to destroy Charlemagne's career. but I do think that, I mean, listen, if academics runs interviews with people involved in that case from back in the day with Charlemagne, which I don't think he's above that. He definitely would do that. That's probably like exactly what he's thinking.
Starting point is 00:30:18 That's going to have. That's his nuclear code. That's going to definitely happen. But again, man, you know, I don't know, man. Axe in a pretty positive space. Yeah. Got some weight loss going on. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:36 That good redda. You know what? Huh? That's the GLP1 that clavcule claims that he sold act that helped him lose all that weight. Oh, Clav said he? Nah. That's what Clav said. I don't know how Clav was trolling.
Starting point is 00:30:48 But, I mean, I personally am 100% convinced. Redda is basically like, you know, Ozempic. Red is like the futuristic new version of Ozempic that apparently like allows you to keep more muscle. It has some other good like features, et cetera. But it's basically like, you know, one of these hardcore weight loss drugs. Gotcha. But I've heard. Nothing but great things. People love it.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Yeah, he drops some weight. No, he lost like 150 pounds. It's actually insane. He probably just put 20 years onto his life. Damn. Yeah, I don't know. Lost that much weight? Yeah, should we call? Should we see if he picks up?
Starting point is 00:31:22 Let's see. You know what we call, and there's some messy shit going on. Exactly. I wonder what Ack is doing. Oh, wait, well, he's on vacation, maybe? I don't know if he's still on vacation. Maybe that's why this is not dialing yet. Hmm, interesting.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Okay, but yeah, he's on vacation, so that makes sense that it would be turned off. But I don't know, that's a wild one that I've been observing. I feel like Flacco is probably next. Once they hobble Grand Chat Wizard, the Rock Nation missiles would become pointed directly towards North Dakota. And I think Flacco and his campaigns are probably who they're looking at next. I'm personally glad that I never fully hopped on the Rock Nation bandwagon because I could easily see myself being, it's actually crazy to me that they haven't fully gone at AC. I feel like that they would be suing AC in some way, but maybe by just going at his closest
Starting point is 00:32:21 comrade, that's the move. You got to be careful going at AC. Act's a big deal. Yeah, but if you're Jay-Z, right? I don't, they keep screaming Jay-Z. You're not scared of Jay-Z? No, no, I don't think, I don't, this Jay-Z's part of that company. I don't think Jay-Z saying act.
Starting point is 00:32:41 I think the company as a whole because of whatever the overall situation is, it's just doing what they're doing, bro. But there's got to be somebody calling the shots when it comes to taking on like the biggest voice in the culture when it comes to the media. And I will tell you that I know people who I speak to who are extremely knowledgeable
Starting point is 00:33:06 about how Jay-Z moves. And they say that the whole idea that Jay-Z is too big and he's not in the trenches of what's going on with this or that. They say, absolute bullshit. Jay-Z knows everything that people are saying about him. He knows everybody who he should and does consider an app in this business. And that the idea that he's just so famous and such a billionaire and he's off in the clouds and he can't pay attention to anything.
Starting point is 00:33:32 And so I'm combing my hair for five days with Beyonce. bullshit. Okay. He's in the trenches just like us. He just sits back and makes these power plays without having a hop on a mic and trash people like we do. Okay. Why does Rock Nation allegedly have an issue with Act?
Starting point is 00:33:49 Because it wasn't who? Because AC has spread the idea, myself, I personally don't really agree with that, but the idea that Troy Lane is innocent and that Meg the Stuyian is a demon. Okay, now stop. That's an important part of it. Rock Nation was present at her. at the trial. She's their artist.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Exactly. Yeah. This ain't got nothing to, bro. This is their artist. She's a high-profile client, right? I think Torrey Lane's father is the one to start pumping that. It's because of them, the witness changed the story. Or because of them, this, this, dad, or the other, right?
Starting point is 00:34:27 Yeah. Now, listen, if they're there to support and the DA is doing their job. Right. We're squeezing the witness and persuading them to go another, with things, right? He can't go at the DA, nobody's going to hear that. Right. So you go at Rock Nation, and because Jay-Z is the face of Rock Nation,
Starting point is 00:34:50 Jay-Z did it. Right. Right? So now comes, well, we want to speak to academics because you're doing this, just that or another. It's never going to be just the company, the corporation, Right? Their board members have made a decision to do this.
Starting point is 00:35:11 It's going to be Jay Z. Cine. Does he know what's going on? Of course he knows what's going on. But it is the idea to say, we're going to go to Meg Dostalian's trial with Tory Lanes because we're part of this, this, dot, or not. They went to support.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Right. You went to KripMax court date. Right. You had nothing to do with whatever they hell was going on at those tables. I was just showing support. This is what I'm saying. So it's like, I think they're making it a bigger situation than what it is when it comes to Jay-Z, Rock Nation, and academics.
Starting point is 00:35:50 I think Rock Nation is moving. This is not his only companies a part of. Okay. I think that they very much care about the fact that academics and Tori Lanes and everybody else that was involved in the anti-MIG campaign has clearly had like very real negative effects on her career. But you got to like, if you want to scroll back a little bit, you can get to like the Meek Mill thing. I don't think Meek Mill's Rock Nation affiliated anymore. But I clearly had like an extremely negative effect on Meek Mill's career at a certain point.
Starting point is 00:36:21 With Meek Mill even said that essentially like 90% of his fan base went away as a result of academics TV, which is insane. But either way- He said knock her for a lawsuit. But this is the most important thing is that, academics, unlike almost everybody in hip-hop media, doesn't kiss the ring when it comes to Jay-Z. So many rappers, industry people, et cetera, even if they're not directly benefiting from Jay-Z, show him respect, would never go out of their way to push anti-JZ narratives, etc.
Starting point is 00:36:57 and I feel like that in particular is probably why they consider act to be an enemy because let's not a rapper but it doesn't matter he's got a way bigger voice than any rapper what I'm just what I'm saying almost those rappers they're rappers jZ has things that could benefit them right act don't get what does jZ have that could benefit act could he enhance and something, yeah, probably maybe. I mean, if they had a relationship at some point, let's say that they had ever done anything together, then this would be a harder thing for Act to do.
Starting point is 00:37:37 But they haven't. Right. Jay Z never reached out to assist that. And that's what I don't really get about somebody like Jay-Z, who maybe now should be regretting this a little bit because he is clearly in a position where his PR is pretty bad over the last year or two. But like, why does someone like Jay-Z not reach out to the next generation
Starting point is 00:37:57 of independent hip-hop media that have incredibly loud voices. And, you know, he don't got to do a no-jumper interview. He don't have to do an academic interview. But he could have, you know, show any kind of support would really, like, stop the fact that it's so easy for someone like AC or me or Vlad or whoever to participate in the negativity towards Jay-Z
Starting point is 00:38:19 because we have no relationship. He's never done anything for us. I don't think he thinks you guys' voices are loud enough to affect his, his mountain top. But the thing is, is that the combined power of our voices is fairly influential.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Influential to what? To the fans. Okay, about what can you say about Jay-Z that will have a direct effect on him? I think there's so much negativity that maybe you don't see because you're not as... I see it. I see the accusations.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Okay, but we're not just talking about the sexual assault. allegations or whatever that shit. Right. That he seems fine. But the overall like consensus about him amongst like hip hop circles that I see on Twitter a lot is that Jay-Z is, okay, because there's a lot of anti-billionaire sentiment in general. So he gets a lot of that.
Starting point is 00:39:11 He gets a lot of the like a billionaire, give a damn amount of people that's anti-billioner. I think Jay-Z very much cares about what the prevailing opinion of him in hip-hop is. And I think that hip-hop, at least within like certain segments of leftist hip-hop fans, being a billionaire is pretty bad and just being an out-of-touch clueless capitalist is pretty bad and I think that Jay-Z has like gotten by for so long in his career by basically saying
Starting point is 00:39:36 yo I'm rich as fuck y'all I don't care what you say I'm rich as fuck that shit does not work like it used to he doesn't say that. No that is like the prevailing sentiment of that freestyle that he did. I don't even have to talk to y'all because I'm so rich.
Starting point is 00:39:48 And guess what? And that don't work like it used to. Guess what he did to hip-hop? When he dropped that freestyle he took over the algorithm. And I think was largely, was largely lampooned for it. No, listen, what I'm saying is he's showing when I want to go over there,
Starting point is 00:40:07 I can go over there. I'm up here. Hey, which one of y'all want to go before about the Super Bowl this year? But Jay-D, being as good at, and that works for a long time. It's still working. But being as good as he is at rapping did not change the fact that from a critical perspective. I think that freestyle was viewed as an L.
Starting point is 00:40:28 No. It got a lot of attention, but it didn't get responses from any of the important people that he dissed. Drake didn't say a word. Nick Minas didn't say a word. Yeah, you got Oskino responding to you in fucking interviews. Yeah, you got Dame Dash doing another interview. But as far as like the big name players that were supposed to react to that, it didn't
Starting point is 00:40:46 happen because I think that Jay and Nicky both realize, and it's crazy to see Nicky show some restraint. but Drake is used to it, but I think both of them realized that by partaking in this, that it would be overall, like, more beneficial to Jay. And did you see that now he has an eight-part documentary series where he gets interviewed by Rick Rubin coming out? How do you know that? Twitter.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Now, you don't understand that him doing that freestyle had nothing to do with the artists that he did's coming back at him. It had everything to do with, he know what his rollout is. You think he just did that eight-part series? It's already been done. But doesn't it say a lot when the biggest rappers in the game, like Drake and Nikki Minaj, don't really consider you worthy of partaking in your album rollout?
Starting point is 00:41:35 Or was it that those subliminal messages Jay-Z left in that song, right? Kind of like, you know what? I'm going to leave that alone. Not particularly for Drake, but really for Nikki. Drake's who he is. Right. But that Nikki side of things, I don't know. You know what she's still?
Starting point is 00:41:55 We got to see what's going to happen with her. Right. Do you want to play with that? She's not exactly active in her career at this moment. I ain't counting Drake out because Drake's known he just got through dropping whatever he's dropping. You know, he's known to double back. Drake right now responding would seem like him stooping down, which is crazy to speak about Jay-Z in such a way. My boy.
Starting point is 00:42:15 What's her in me? Survivor. How are you feeling, dog? The man of the hour right now. Baby shooter in this bitch. What's standing with it? How you feeling, dog? I'm feeling good.
Starting point is 00:42:27 So what are the extent of your injuries right now? What's me? My rib, my rib, that shit, that shit, kind of fracture. And then my shoulder popped out of place and shit. So I'm just wearing my brace to get this motherfucker right? But you got stabbed too, right? Yeah, yeah. Where at?
Starting point is 00:42:40 My shoulder right here and my ribs. Was it bad? Like, bleeding out type shit? Or? I mean, it went to bleeding out. Because the little needles, I mean, the little shit they're using, like, super big. Right. Wow.
Starting point is 00:42:51 That shit hurt, though. Okay, so take us back. How did you get arrested in the first place? What were you doing? How I get arrested? I had an old-ass little, I had an old-ass case type shit. I'll post a third four years for,
Starting point is 00:43:03 you know what I'm saying? And then, discharging the firearm. Lazy didn't file his paperwork in there. Okay. So you started the firearm, and they caught the firearm, so they made me plead to the firearm type of shit
Starting point is 00:43:14 because they couldn't prove I was shot the gun. This was before the serious case. Okay. He was out of the firearm. on bail on it. So when he caught this serious case, he was already out on bail on that. So you didn't have all your ducks in a row basically, and so they pick you up while you're
Starting point is 00:43:27 driving or something, or they come to your crib? No, I had to turn myself in. I already knew how to turn myself in. Yeah. And so then they throw you in the county. Yeah. And is it like, is it true that they put you in a neighborhood dorm? Module, yeah, hell yeah. No, tell them why you know that, because
Starting point is 00:43:43 how many people went in with you, where they was from? Oh, it was all the hummies with me. All the, my, homies from Broadway. all gangsters and shit and then where they send them they send them they send me to 24
Starting point is 00:43:54 really and you think that they did this to to put you in a bad situation and the nigga actually when I went in he was a young he was a young
Starting point is 00:44:01 little CEO or a sure he's like hey probably seen you all over the internet you don't want to check celebrity that mean they're gonna go
Starting point is 00:44:09 to high power and shit like where them nigs be in one cell and shit so that's PC I mean it ain't PC it just
Starting point is 00:44:14 the nicks be shackled up in one cell and shit you don't never go nowhere I'm like hell no I want to go right there I'm going GP, like, you know what I'm saying? They shacking them up in the, not in the cell.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Not in the cell, but everywhere you go, you got to be shackled up like a motherfucker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A motherfucker's never see you. So you're safer, but basically it just sucks. They can be safe because you ain't going to see nobody. Yeah. You can be by yourself, like, for sure, all the time. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Like, if one of y'all going to y'all, y'all ain't going to have no choice. Yeah, yeah. You ain't going to have. We're going straight. I know I'm going to day. They didn't get y'all. Like, shoot, when he went, they said his ass with, when he makes his phone calls, he in a cage. Bring me to the neighborhood dorm.
Starting point is 00:44:50 They don't get out no choice. Well, they're going to be cool with me, though, right? I mean, they might be, but you ain't going to get no choice. I probably shouldn't find out. Okay. All right, so you're saying, wait, like, rest in peace, but like if Nipsey Hustle got arrested before he passed, he's going to celebrity.
Starting point is 00:45:09 They would have just forced that on him. Blueface, they didn't have him? Blueface, they wouldn't let him. Do we try to go to court to get him because he wanted to go to the main line? They was not. because there's something happened to him. That's a big liability. Yeah, it's a liability.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Which that's the card we played for him. That's what we did. Okay. So you knew that it was a choice between being shackled up in the celebrity section or going to the neighborhood dorm or did you not know that that was the way they got put you? Not neighborhood dorm, but mainland, the GP period. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:36 And so they put you in there and what's the experience like? Tell me about walking up in this bitch and what you see and how it goes. I'm bailing that motherfucker. It's 2400. So I ain't really know. what's going on because before I left, you mind you I built out in February, right?
Starting point is 00:45:50 So when I built out of February, this is an all-blood module. But mind you, the bloods and the ganges, they're good in jail, you know what I'm saying? So I'm thinking, whatever, you feel me? Whatever happened, it happened, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:46:01 But I think it's the all-blood module, though. My cousin used to run it. My cousin's bad nose, he's six loose brim. So I bill up in there, and then when I'm walking through, I walk in the aisle, and I'm asking what I'm from and shit. And we're from black.
Starting point is 00:46:14 My up a long gangster. He's like, oh, 40-crip, 40-crip. and all that you know what I'm saying so it's a it's a gang of that going on a hundred and shit like that and then I get to my I get to my cell they say 22 out there they say 22 Baker yeah 22 Baker so I get to my cell they pop it open it was two 40s in there and oh yeah two no 40 a hundred and a nigga from Main Street and there I'm gonna walk I'm cool he like we're from no one one they can say we from the other nigga like
Starting point is 00:46:40 that's shooter like they they talk to me well you're out there fucking old stunter and all this little type shit you're saying I'm like yeah yeah all this type of shit. They're like, are you sleep right there? The phone right here, bro, whenever you feel free.
Starting point is 00:46:51 I'm like, all right, it's good. So, that's the first, that's the first little night because I'm going through process and I should take all damn day,
Starting point is 00:46:58 you feel me? I turn myself in at 10 in the morning. Yeah, you call me early. I called you early. Yeah, I turned myself, right before I turn myself, I turn myself in where they take me in like at 10 in the morning.
Starting point is 00:47:10 I ain't get to the bed and to like want something in the morning. You feel me? I should take all day. So I get there. That's the first night. The second day, I think was Thursday. No, second day was, I turned up.
Starting point is 00:47:21 I went Thursday. The second day is Friday. So Friday I go in. It was cool. I mean, I went there the whole Friday. It's cool and shit. And I'm going on. I was talking regular shooting the shit.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Saturday morning, six in the morning. When the police come in, once they settle in and all that shit, they run showers. So when you run showers, I should go down. You know, I come out for showers. I know something kind of weird, though. because them niggas probably must talk to you tell when I was sleep or something because I had a out of um that night before they they were before they run showers they give you new tiles and new little shit that you know what I'm saying so I get the towel and everything I put it at the edge of
Starting point is 00:47:59 the bed and when I get up I'm like let's say hey for them run showers they're like hey uh they tell a nigga hey hop on the phone call your girl he said call your girl hop on the phone I got uh highlight you about something at the time I know what the fuck they was talking about but now I do I had to say when I look I'm like what the fuck my towel at I don't know I'm gonna look down there and you don't see my towel and I don't see no towel I'm no whatever I bell out anyway I tell a homie I you ain't got no extra towel um my nika my nigga my nigga my nigga my nigger my nudge when he's cool nigga you got a special t'et he got an extra tally like yeah yeah I got one for you so I go out I do whatever I go here um do my thing
Starting point is 00:48:40 it's shower and all that little shit when I go back down it's another little it's a bigger nigga and myself but that niggas smoking and doing this little thing me gonna be doing you I'm saying spice shit they be on so he's doing he doing they doing they and myself so it's like two extra niggas I see myself right might think of nothing of it so they rocked when they rocked the door back and close it they like and who is cell eight who are cell seven like there's nobody in there and all this type of shit so the police kind of holding up because they're trying to see we're cell seven and what's seven eight or sell eight or sell eight you feel me they hand or sell nine I'm not knowing this shit so when they close it they like
Starting point is 00:49:16 whatever you know what I'm saying they get on and then um so they get on they ask the nigga that's in myself already nigger D face and they like what you they're like uh hey the police gone they get the police gone they get about they get the niggas get up they're like uh hey shoot you already know what time they're like uh regular two fakes type shit i'm like yep it's good i'm cripple i get up i go i pill out we go we're gonna go soon as soon as you go to lock up You can't rush me. Come on. Get up on the nigga.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Oh, shit. So you're saying the cats in the other cell they were looking for was in your cell? Yeah, my cell. All of you. All of your cell. Yeah. Okay, when you use the bathroom mat, they got a curtain on that motherfucker. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:49:57 So the niggas that's, because it's forward to a cell. So they don't see you using the bathroom, taking the shit or taking the piss. So it's a curtain right there. So it's something behind the curtain. It's some in the two bunks right there because they got that curtained off. It's something in there. For me, it's something under the bunk. For me, I don't, I ain't see none of these.
Starting point is 00:50:13 So pretty much. was the sheriff's department's negligence to shut down the other two cells, knowing they was empty. Because that's what I was saying. I'm like, that seems so inappropriate for them to be like, oh, these two dudes are missing from that cell, whatever. That just feels like a big lapse in judgment. When you watch prison shows, I know it's the county,
Starting point is 00:50:33 but like when you watch prison shows, it seems like somebody missing from their cell is a big deal. Like, we are addressing this right now. Yeah, exactly. But see, when you see things like that, it leads you to believe that they're in on it. Exactly. And then I don't doubt it.
Starting point is 00:50:50 You know what I'm saying? Like, come on, bro. I'm going to tell you why further on, when you go into the little shit, I'm going to tell you why I feel they did, you know what they had something to do with it. But for sure, man, them niggas ain't stupid, bro. So this phone call you here
Starting point is 00:51:07 because you're the only one that can put a time frame on it. How long was things going on is it got to the point to where we heard the phone call that we heard
Starting point is 00:51:21 how long it's been did it just started was it been five minutes 15 minutes nah the phone
Starting point is 00:51:27 they had the phone already said they had all that shit lined up you know what I'm saying for me when I'm coming in the cell they had
Starting point is 00:51:34 they had to laid out like the red carpet like phone ready people on the phone recording already already when I'm saying and not the iPhone
Starting point is 00:51:40 but like the actual phone yeah the real phone Somebody's on the other side recording. Somebody on the other side recording. They had it already laid out. Somebody already recorded when I got in there. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:51:50 That's it already set up. You feel me? So yeah, so they, when they said the head up shit, I mean, the two fades, we go,
Starting point is 00:51:57 they rush me. Man, they go for my earring. Man, they go for, okay, look. They let you bring the earrings in. I got the earrings in
Starting point is 00:52:06 because I had all my journey in, right? Because I go, I went to turn myself in by myself. So I got my, I got my, I got my jury on and all that shit. They just let you wear it into the jail?
Starting point is 00:52:16 My area, I tell them my eras will come out. I'm like, they're permanently heavy so they don't come out because I have some big-ass flowers. They're like, okay.
Starting point is 00:52:21 Yeah, I'm like, the muffs who don't come out. So, um, I go, so I go in with them, so they,
Starting point is 00:52:28 after my area, they want the ear rings type shit. They get, get with the ear rings of, they got them to fly. They snatched them bits out. That's why I got the cut right here. This motherfucker's,
Starting point is 00:52:36 my fucking barely barely getting up and shit. Oh, shit. Yeah, they snatched them bitches out. I'm on the flow and shit. So I go out to the nigga that got the shit. I got my area. I'm grabbing him.
Starting point is 00:52:45 I hit him like two times. All of a sudden, I don't feel shit. I just, no, this motherfucker is not going no more. You feel me? I don't feel it hit me,
Starting point is 00:52:52 but this motherfucker not, my, my fucking hit my fucking hit me. I'm going to the ground or something. Hell yeah. Get him in the ground and all that shit. You feel me? So it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:53:02 So it wasn't no other. Let me get this right. It wasn't no other gangsters down there. No other gangsters. is down there whatsoever all the neighborhood I think it was a couple probably got a couple of conflict crippings down there all but
Starting point is 00:53:15 nothing but games of cryptic I mean nothing but neighborhood anymore no games of cryptic so you mentioned that you had sent word up to to Anhefe oh yeah um and half a n'n't you knicks knew I was down there because uh tank for atro against he got word that I was down there and tanked for a hatred against he came down there
Starting point is 00:53:33 and he like um so can you straight I'm straight like oh heck these are these are I think he ain't on nothing. I'm like, said, I've been right here for him. But they, the day the niggas ain't said, nothing. Like, I guess not. And then he, he insists on talking about me how my brother owe him $500 and all.
Starting point is 00:53:47 I guess he wanted me to pay to something. Like, man, my brother ain't took me nothing about that shit. Whatever, he's like, oh, all right, well, I'm going to get you up there. Like, you straight, you don't eat nothing? I'm like, I don't eat nothing. I'm like, I'm going to still come in and be good, you know what I'm saying? Like, I came in with a pocket full of money. I'm sure they put it on my books type shit.
Starting point is 00:54:03 You know what I'm going to me. Meanwhile, I'm going to give you some little shit and I'm going to give you a toothpaste and shit, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, oh, that's cool. Okay, like, you know, hygiene and important. I'm all right, cool. He's like, yeah, I'm going to grab some shit from my aunt,
Starting point is 00:54:13 from young aunt, and then, speaking of the Anahe, and I'm going to grab you from a young aunt, and then I'm going to get you some shit and I'm going to come back down here. And then in a couple hours, when the next shift will come, she had you up there.
Starting point is 00:54:25 I'm all right, cool. I never came back and never said shit. I'm like shit. So you think they kind of like, sent words and kind of like, you know, let's see what he'll do. Because ant's whole narrative was because you didn't handle your business right or you refused to take the two fades. He felt like it was nothing to address.
Starting point is 00:54:55 That ain't how I go anyway. But that's not what happened, right? Because you were down for the two fades. They rushed you and jumped you, right? I was going to take my two phase off the back. look so look this is the whole point of right when i got in the cell it's three of them already in the cell when i get there so if they went to two fades off the back they would have gave me the two phase when i got in there they don't knickers ain't waiting a day and a half shower time for
Starting point is 00:55:21 their homies to get in there so you already thought that was a little weird when they mentioned that come on when they when they said it i knew it was a play bro they after soon they get up and line it up and they got the phone set up you know what i'm saying where it was all the type of little weird shit They got the little cane ready, you know what I'm saying? I don't want to say too much, but it's like, you got shit ready, bro. You know what I'm saying? 10 niggas literally, you know what I'm saying? Like, for two fades, I was already in here with, I was already in here with three niggas.
Starting point is 00:55:45 You got, I didn't have a cool before this. Like, do you have a relationship and shit? Yeah, I mean, like, we ain't got no, like, close relationship, but our hood's, like, real close. You know what I know. And our hood's close, too, you know what I'm saying? I know it's family too. I'm saying, like. So you didn't, you didn't expect him to go bad on you that, that fad?
Starting point is 00:56:03 No, I am, you know what I'm saying? I left, because when this shit, when his case and shit was coming up, niggas, asking me, and niggas, when I'm talking, even when you was, when you was on his top, the homie's calling me like, you see what Wack on? Like, whoa, whatever. You know, you were against crypt, and the homies, like,
Starting point is 00:56:18 well, I'm like, man, whack on the thing, though. All I said was this, and you, and you can attest to this because, you know, I'll be on you. Yeah. I said, well, and you say, whack don't be outside. He don't be on the block. He ain't a real member that being in the community.
Starting point is 00:56:35 And I just said, kids, this is what you get when you outside a real member in the gang community. You get caught up like this. This is a nasty situation he on, right? Hell yeah. Now, every time, and I know you be trying to figure out how I know, I did an eagle in you about to go somewhere, I feel you shouldn't be what I do.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Let the nigger know. Hey, man, get up on a nigga top. Quick. I be on him. I be, hey, what you doing? You just came home. You show you want to do that? You thinking about what you're doing, right?
Starting point is 00:57:13 Hell yeah. I get on you. So it ain't like I ain't practicing what I'm preaching. I'm simply saying to the kids, hey, listen, you heard him tell y'all, whack don't be outside in the ghetto like that every day. And I tell y'all, no, I don't. If I want to go to the ghetto, I go to the ghetto. You didn't call me where you at.
Starting point is 00:57:32 in a nine-nine mom from where you've got 60 I'm gonna go where I want to go but do I just wake up and just hang in the hood? Hell no because I know it comes with that. I didn't get me no many homies I got this dead at
Starting point is 00:57:48 19, 22, 23, 24 and 99% of their time they end the set. I didn't get to be 49 years old being no damn fool. You get what I'm saying? And you even know I'll be on your bumper.
Starting point is 00:58:03 A time. You know what I'm saying? Because I know, so I didn't I didn't say nothing disrespectful and I started tripping when he jumped on that phone and I'm sure y'all started, but bro, what's you doing? Not for real. You know, I didn't say
Starting point is 00:58:16 nothing disrespectful. I'm just simply saying hey, this is what you get. When your ass want to be in the hood a real member all day, every day in the set. That kids don't do. That's just what's real. Today I jumped up the day early this morning. The AC man came.
Starting point is 00:58:32 I ran and had to do some duck work. And when they got me some fertilizer, you know, I had to fix a couple sprinklers. You know what I'm saying? Try my parable wash? Listen, I'm getting ready for the 4th of July. We're talking about him getting stabbed. You know, you're talking about your sprinklers.
Starting point is 00:58:48 No, what I'm saying is when they told him, you hear with Waxe saying disrespectful, boom. So now my question to you is this. They feel you hollering and screaming on the phone is not justifiable. They even went as far as to say right?
Starting point is 00:59:11 If he are hollering and scream like that, they could have made him do some sexual shit. This is what they're pumping. Ant said it. And he said this. He's saying that this is what he calling in. He allegedly calling in to some of your people. I don't know if he is, if he's not.
Starting point is 00:59:28 He ain't talking to them on to my name. Right. So my thing is, where I come from, even if it was a violation happening with the homie. Because y'all did that to the homie and took something. See, right? We're going to move anyway. We're going to whip your ass too when we catch you.
Starting point is 00:59:49 When we get you up here with us, we're going to deal with you too. If you guilty of what they say you're guilty of. But I feel like he used every excuse not to move. What you're getting? My cousins came up. See, I'm not even looking at the nigger's shit, right? I'm even paying no attention to. You ain't heard it.
Starting point is 01:00:07 I ain't paying, I ain't panning no mind. But my cousin's like, like, nigger like, because my cousin felt like, look, is he, is he telling the truth? Because he ain't, yeah, ally, you know what I'm saying? I'm thinking like, like, what's going on? Shoot him, I'm like, bro, that nigga, I don't know if niggas telling him shit,
Starting point is 01:00:23 you know what I'm saying, and he's believing it or he's going off with he here or he's not a dog. It's gold. You all violated. Listen, y'all violating 10 months. Like, it's none of that. Okay, so what, that's what happened?
Starting point is 01:00:40 Okay, so, we ain't going to trip. Okay, but from Ann's perspective, if this really went down like that, isn't it kind of like a death mission for him to go against all these dudes on behalf of shooter? That's what, that's what he's supposed to do. But that's like, I mean, it's kind of easy to understand why a person would not want to put themselves. in that position, right? Listen, man. Listen to me.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Listen, but he ain't saying it like that though. If I'm up there, sleep, whack, what up? They just, they just packed the homie out. What you mean? They took his shit, wooed-y-whoop, niggas was scared the squab.
Starting point is 01:01:17 They packed him out, though. Who? Whoever that group of people is, it's on. And whoever the dude is that we felt punked the game, we're going to deal with you too. So, and I did, yeah, that's deal with after.
Starting point is 01:01:30 That's after. That's after. you know what I'm saying you're not you're not you're not you're not supposed to he just and had did it to himself getting on the phone giving all them details if he would have just like not been on YouTube
Starting point is 01:01:43 discussing it okay and just another motherfucking jail like anybody else. Exactly then it'd be easy to be like well yeah I'm here I'm shit where was he at we don't know yeah I don't know I don't know I just got here it's people here that got the keys to the road or whatever it may be but he jumping on there saying
Starting point is 01:01:59 he pushed up he name and name It's only one dude identified itself. He did that to itself. The other dude ain't named. We ain't even know. Dude from Harlem. He, he's like, yeah, I'm going down there to check on it, and I ran into the dude.
Starting point is 01:02:12 You know what I'm saying? Who was one of the leaders of whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever. And I'm sitting there telling myself, when you've seen him, you're supposed to get off. Off the bat. That's how I'm supposed to go. And it ain't like Baby Shooter just a name he knows. You know the dude.
Starting point is 01:02:30 I mean, that's what come with this. shit, unfortunately, when you going places like this, but you know how many times, bro, my program being smooth. I got everything I needed myself. I got a visit coming. I'm nine months to the house. I got a pay number job. And because the homie then went over here on the way, pal,
Starting point is 01:02:49 and had niggas wets and was tripping behind his brawl, said what he said, got rushed packed out, and we got to come out. And I know if it to catch about another six months to a year in the shoe, all my shit going to be packed up. number being, that's just what comes with it. Unfortunately, that's what come with it.
Starting point is 01:03:06 Yeah. You can't pick and choose when you want to be involved in that. Straight up. If he got something to take, that's the cards to take. Right. You took from the card.
Starting point is 01:03:20 That's value. That's value you didn't took from the court. That's how it goes. Me listening to the end, I'm telling myself, damn, you're giving play by play, but you've given every reason an excuse me, when money back Rose was saying
Starting point is 01:03:33 and what ICE was saying up here the other day, he's saying, look, screw all that. Ain't no investigation. They did this to the homie. F*** what the homie didn't do. Right. You got to go. But Aunt is looking for reasons not to have to move.
Starting point is 01:03:51 Rose, like, cornered me and was like, Adam, you got to understand how crazy it is that Anne Heffin was talking about a shooter and didn't get his back in that situation. He's like breaking it all that with me. And like, I never. seen him so passionate about anything. Now here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:04:04 That's crazy, though. It's crazy. Now here's the thing. And I got to put it out there, shooter. We put the lot of weight on Ed. Are you saying that when Aunt got there, he had the keys? Because... Keys are what?
Starting point is 01:04:23 I'm pretty sure it's more gangsters there. Why, they didn't move. Ant's one person. You're saying, that's the shot caller. No. The way is being... but I think he's doing it to himself because he's the one
Starting point is 01:04:38 on the phone and on the YouTube. He's like the most high profile along with you. Yeah, so, you know, are we saying an ants making it seem that way, let me go out here to see what's up, as if whatever he comes back with, the call going to be made, right?
Starting point is 01:04:58 I don't know. This is just what he's saying, right? Why didn't the other gangsters move? he did like the closest gangsters to the shit you know what I'm saying the homies on the other side like after the shit happened like niggas like
Starting point is 01:05:14 take him where his homie was at taking where his homies at so they're like what did you end up at 2100 so what happened when you got there as soon as I got there I went to the homie case a homie case even before I went trouble and I was sad and he's like what's up with you
Starting point is 01:05:29 he's saying a nigga bleeding all that shit I'm like I'm like um told him what happened you know what I'm saying I already gave him the whole run down hey on the damn me for the slide over there like hold on because they took me to the day room so I'm in the day room I'm on the phone
Starting point is 01:05:43 type of shit I called you so I called you so I'm on the phone popping then he they slide over there the mrs. The niggas was locked and they sell though and like uh I got packed out yeah I got got up on the homie wall he like he told the hummy he told the hummus straight up like I ain't a lie
Starting point is 01:05:59 was planning on giving him two uh we was planning on giving him too uh we was planning on giving him too phase, he wouldn't get the earrings up, you know what I'm saying? See, that's another violation. So you pretty much saying because he didn't get an earring up
Starting point is 01:06:12 the two fades out the window and we just robbed him. Why is that a violation? Because listen, he found a gangster card, right? Give him his phase and let him move around where they move around. So because you chose to rob him,
Starting point is 01:06:28 you took something not just from shooter. You took something of value from the gangster car. Right. The gangster car is supposed to be pressing. We need the mirror rings back. It's up. We need the mirror the rings back.
Starting point is 01:06:42 What you did to him is one thing and y'all took something, not just from him for months, because if it's there to be took, we're going to dash us. And they're going to go to war over that. Right? Now, I don't know if it's a little different in there. You know, I ain't been to the county
Starting point is 01:06:57 jail since 99. Right. I don't know if it's a little different to that. I'll be hearing the blind talking about I never been to the county and I went to prison for why all kind of dump shit up or whatever right um how long was you over there before they sent you the wayside um shit like a day and a half and nobody had a problem with you hell no because the audio's viral this time right and okay this is my question is like they're with you is it fair to say they're like torturing you i mean torture sounds crazy but Yes. But how long does that go on for? That shit, like, they fucking, they,
Starting point is 01:07:37 well, they ain't popping them on a nigga for 30 minutes, but they fucking a nigga up for at least 30 minutes. Oh, okay. And that phone calls, like, kind of towards the end of that, I'm assuming? I mean, they probably only put out what they wanted to put out, like, cut it and all that, but I'm sure they were recorded system for,
Starting point is 01:07:50 because I can hear, I can hear when I first come in, you know what I'm saying, when they first start, when the first situation occur, and they're like, I can hear like shit cut, cut through, you know what I'm saying? And says you start screaming for the guard,
Starting point is 01:08:02 and you told the guard I can't be in here they try to kill me the guard ain't nowhere near the guard ain't nowhere near where I'm at if they were there would have they would have hurt the whole thing the guard's way somewhere else
Starting point is 01:08:14 so how did you get out yeah how to come to an end how come to it because when they realize I'm like I get up on a nigga when they finally start jigging their nigga up
Starting point is 01:08:25 and all that I'm like look bro I'm good like them y'all I got me bro surrender technically quick like bro I got me with a show y'all got the earrings bro y'all got everything y'all want me, bro.
Starting point is 01:08:34 I'm a dead homie. I tell an older nigga, the older nigga, he came, he came to, he down on an appeal. He's like, you got to hit him in the neck. Like, ooh, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait. Yeah, the older nigga, he down on the pill, he's like, you hear this?
Starting point is 01:08:47 I think, like, you got to hit him in the neck. You know what he said? You're saying that about him to you? Like, no, the older nigga, he's right there while it's happening. He's got to hit him in the neck. Like, telling them to stab you in the neck. Yeah, that's, like, we got to hit him in the neck. So he come down for the...
Starting point is 01:09:00 Because I can see... Listen, he said he came down from appeal. That means he came down from the penitentiary. So you have a nigga that been in the penitentiary, 20, 30 years, 25 years, right? He's totally out of touch with reality. All he knows is do it one way. Right. Now, he don't understand these youngsters in here is clout chasing.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Right. And his mind, when you go there to the extent they're going, you go there, you go there, to kill, hurt badly. So it's funny because you got an old dude in the mix of a circus and he don't even know it. He's telling him what you're doing. Hit him in the neck. You got to hit him in the neck.
Starting point is 01:09:42 He's telling him like that. You're lucky he didn't take the motherfucking. On everything. When he said that, I'm like, nigga, I'm talking to OG, look, bro. I took my earring, bro. Niggas, with my ass, bro. You know what I'm saying? Whatever.
Starting point is 01:09:55 I got everything y'all got, bro. Anything you y'all get his in my life. What are you going to do with that? You feel me? Like, y'all got me. You know what I'm saying? Like, I know how to set the feet, bro. Y'all got me, bro.
Starting point is 01:10:03 What's your show I want to? Bro. You know what I got me, bro. The boy, what's the viral moment? What do you say? What do you say? That nigga like, I'm like, what's all going to do?
Starting point is 01:10:13 The nigga 4.0, like, the nigga 4.0, like, uh, say, fuck a fool. You're saying, we're going to end it. So that's how I end, though. The nigga put his hand outside the bars like this,
Starting point is 01:10:25 and he'd do this. When he do this, the bars pop. That's how we know with Sheriff Negligence. And the law officer sing and sing will definitely be addressing that. We got to highlight the L.A. Shave Department. You think that that's going to be visible on the cameras? No, I think, let me tell you what they showed their hand.
Starting point is 01:10:47 When they pull a shooter out and asked them about the tape, they played it for you, right? Yep. and at that point we decided to play our hand and put a call in how the right people call in and say hey we got a high profile guy in there
Starting point is 01:11:09 is footage folding around of audio and you guys have questioned him about it and so what you guys are going to do so next time something happens and he don't make it out of there you guys are going to acknowledge the fact because it's on record that you question
Starting point is 01:11:26 punching him about it. Right? They ain't saying too much. Now, we know shooter ain't in there fighting no case. He got 45, 60 days max. We know what they're going to do. Either they're going to, we took a risk.
Starting point is 01:11:41 They're going to put him in a trick bag to get him really fucked up. Or they're going to say, dude ain't worth this shit. Get him up out of here. They kicked him out of the next day. Kicked the nigga out the next day. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:11:55 Kicked him out the next day. out the next day. It's wild, man. You get what I'm saying? So, it could have been, now, like four extras. If a dude like four Xers would have been there, he'd have made him fight.
Starting point is 01:12:10 Yeah, I would have had us with all them nakes, for sure. He might have ran in four, five times, but he was going to fight. I'm cool with that. Give me four or five head up. It's regular. Now, Mark,
Starting point is 01:12:18 give me a break in between. You what I'm saying? I'm straight. Okay, did they explain to you immediately that, because, like, okay, you're from gangsters, their neighborhoods.
Starting point is 01:12:28 That's a reason enough why you might have some phase but did they make it perfectly clear to you like, nah, this is about T. Grizzly. Yeah, absolutely. Like, when did that get said? Did that get said at all? T. Grisley,
Starting point is 01:12:37 T. Grizzly happened after me. Like, the shit they put on the internet it's what they did to catch the attention. Like, that's, they didn't say nothing about gris to me at all. I'm gonna tell you, you know, I say something for y'all, right?
Starting point is 01:12:49 Okay, I say something for y'all. You know, I'm there. Nobody knows this, but my hood. Right? Let me show you something. So, remember the Jay Money situation? Yep. So Jay Money at one point said that that shit was Cap and you never robbed him.
Starting point is 01:13:06 Who said that? Jay Money said that to me. He's like, I got to do an interview because motherfuckers is lying saying that they robbed me, blah, blah, blah, and then he didn't show up to the interview. Oh, I was in jail for it. Yeah, I don't know. This is a little while ago. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:13:20 I don't know. But all right. I was in there for that, right? So in the midst of that situation, an individual gave the police his phone, right? Knowing certain shit in there, the individual gave the police his phone, and said certain shit he was supposed to say, right?
Starting point is 01:13:38 So... Wait, slow down, break, slow down. Come on. I don't think Adam caught what you said. Yeah. You're saying while this situation is going on, an individual in there had a cell phone. No.
Starting point is 01:13:50 In our case. In our case, right? You're talking about before you got out, the Jay Money case. A individual, right, gave the police his phone. Why they investigated? They went and got him first. Gave the police his phone, right? How they was able to ping all the rest of our phones.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Gavee the police's phone. And then through that, they got the rest of us, right? He gave the police his phone and he corroborated, right? So my cousin, he can four-tradez. That's the opposite mindset, right? but that's my cousin so fucking around my cousin
Starting point is 01:14:25 he ended up my cousin ended up getting the paperwork and taking it to his hood right so when he gets the jail niggas press him about it
Starting point is 01:14:33 he say oh that ain't that wasn't me that's the nigga shooter from he got the police his phone
Starting point is 01:14:39 and he didn't want to corroborated with the people right he put all that shit and flipped it on me that's what the stabbing come in
Starting point is 01:14:45 and I'm gonna show you right now watch this watch this I'm gonna let I'm let us read it oh you're saying so They asked you about that when you was in there.
Starting point is 01:14:55 They asked me about that. They said, I'm like, I don't got, I'm like, that nigga, I'm like everything that nigga said. He the one did that. That nigga gave the police shit and everything. But he from the, he from their car, so they believe him, right? So they never, they never mentioned T. Grizzly. Nothing.
Starting point is 01:15:12 They didn't say nothing, but they never said this from Gris and nothing, bro. They said, what happened with the situation where, uh, right, right? Because they, they, they're packing that nigga. They already hit it a couple times. but when they start going in more, right? They say, hey, a,
Starting point is 01:15:27 cause, ain't you want to work with the homie? I'm like, what's the, you're talking about? They say, the situation where when you had to police
Starting point is 01:15:35 your phone and cry, I'm like, I'm like, the nigga you're talking about, that's the nigga who did that. They're homies, right? They're like,
Starting point is 01:15:44 Why would they care? He's going to folet gangston. No, my cousin, he's been foletray. That's the nigga that, that's the nigga that, that's the nigga that gave of paperwork
Starting point is 01:15:50 over to them niggas, right? he got to pay he took the paperwork to that niggahub and gave it over to the but these in jail so they don't know about it so when when the kid hit jail because they were maddened me because he went came to court late he came in jail and they asked me what's so with that
Starting point is 01:16:06 uh shit because too uh tuchet said you um you um you'm saying you get the police to sit corroborated and all this shit he put the shit off on me so they ain't not knowing the shit they ain't seen they just believe in what he's saying again and they go for it so i hate my cousin on when I got out. I'm going to let you read it. I'm going to let you read it
Starting point is 01:16:24 out here so you can see what. And what was this, Ann Hefe was saying that that he was saying something about you kept playing sleep when they was running your homies in Wayside. Did you hear that? No.
Starting point is 01:16:40 Yeah, where he was getting all this from? I don't know what the fuck. He's talking about. I think An He said he makes shit up as he go, bro. Do you be honest with you, bro? We've heard that one before. I think he really do. I think he makes it up as he go, bro. You know he makes words up.
Starting point is 01:16:55 All right. Like, what the fuck is he talking about, bro? It's an alter ego thing. So you're telling me, so when you get the wayside, what is seeing, Super Max, Max,
Starting point is 01:17:04 where you go, medium north? No, I go to Super Max, 700 flow. Okay, and nobody up there had nothing to say. Hell no. Yo, that shit was everywhere, bro.
Starting point is 01:17:15 Oh, yeah. That clip was, was everywhere. Nobody had nothing to say. say? I don't know what I say. Shit to say. True.
Starting point is 01:17:24 It's regular. None of the gangster car had no issue saying you had to run some phase. You was in violation. Nothing. Hell no. Even when I left them, 30 minutes later, I'm with my homies. They take me right with the homies. Oh, I'm taking with the gangers and the hoofs.
Starting point is 01:17:42 All right, cool. I'm right there. The homies go over there and figure out the situation. All I didn't want to know is I wrote it up or not, you see me? If I rolled it up, it's an issue, you, see me? They're trying to figure it out. But did they have to take you to like medical or some shit to get sewn up and shit? Okay, they say this.
Starting point is 01:17:58 Anyone talk about what happened over there? I said, I fell off the bunk. I felt like I'm all right. That's what happened. So they didn't make any attempt at trying to figure out who had done anything to you? Adam, they did this and opened the game. I know, but like that just seems indefensible that they wouldn't try to get you. Who's going to investigate?
Starting point is 01:18:17 They would do some kind of investigation. The people that knew what was going on? What kind of investigation? I know, but I'm just saying that's like, that's pretty damning, right? Like if they weren't at least pretending to, you know, try and figure it out. Listen, the more documentation, the more risk they take. Right. If he's saying he fell off a bunk.
Starting point is 01:18:35 They're just going to be, oh, he fell off a bunk. It all started when they do to other people what did they sell. But a stab wound is the kind of thing that nobody would ever get from falling off a bunk. What is it puncture? But I don't know. Did they do a cavity check on you? No, they ain't, they didn't go all under my shirt. They didn't see my lip, my shit, my face was falling on this way it's right now.
Starting point is 01:18:54 Yeah. So it's like, they're like, what happened when I fell off my bunk type of shit. They know what that means. Yeah, they know. Even when I waited, the homie, like, I mean, you solid-ass nigg because my shit hurt like a I'm a motherfucker and got on pain pills. And then that's time I'm awake two days. I'm wait a day and a half.
Starting point is 01:19:10 Then I'm going to go to medical. Uh-huh. Just so they always in there with them a day and a half? No, before I went to medical? Yeah. Yeah. So I waited. I go, I go out of the hunger.
Starting point is 01:19:19 They wave their hand and open the door. No, no, I'm talking about when they already pushed me to another pod and all that. So soon as they open the door, they immediately pulled you out. They pulled me out quickly. That lets you know they line them up. We're going to put him in here.
Starting point is 01:19:32 Yeah. Get his business, let him get his issue. Then we're going to take me to where he's supposed to be. Exactly. So when they take me right there, I tell him, he's like, I'm away like a day and a half we go to the medical, so they don't try to put two and two together and all this shit, you feel me?
Starting point is 01:19:43 Because they don't know about what's going on under my shirt. You know what I just do. Like, and then I go to the medical. where they like what happened fell off the bunk like maybe we heard that plenty of times what happened like see you're hearing it again like you what I'm saying cause you got like like what shit like that happened if you roll it up or anything like that you got to let them know why or not they gonna put your eyes back in there you what I'm saying so I'm not gonna I'm gonna nigger no I ain't say shit and I ain't wrote nothing up
Starting point is 01:20:06 nigger they tell me take him where his homie's at then homie where you from I'm against well all right who was in ganges over here right across street they take him right there When an OSJ come see, that's who came and saw you. Yeah. So where did they come see you? When I was in Waikside. When I was in Waikide, I was in Waikide for probably only like six hours. Came and seen me over with medical, get my, get my shape treated.
Starting point is 01:20:28 And what did they say? What was they approach? The approach was like, oh, um, what happened to you over there in CJ? What you mean? They're like, um, in CJ, what happened? We knew the situation. I'm like, I said, I don't know nothing about nothing. I was talking about it.
Starting point is 01:20:41 I'm talking about my fellow out of my bunk. And nah, nah, man, we got the audio. Like, we know what was going on. home. You know what's going home, bro? This is audio, bro. There might have been a time back in the day in which there was the internet and shit was kind of coming out, but they're not paying attention to it. Those days are long
Starting point is 01:20:58 over. They're fully included. Now, let me ask you a question. It's like big news. It's on these Instagram accounts. Even if they don't go looking for it, the people who work at the jail are going to see it. I've had Barstow, California. I pull into the 76 gas as you cross from the pop-bye. I go to pit stop.
Starting point is 01:21:15 Yeah. squad call pull up. I said, oh shit. They see me walk in. They parked right, dead center. Put the lights on. So I wait for a minute. I call on RV.
Starting point is 01:21:31 I say, look, the police outside. I don't know what's going on, but it don't look right. I come out, they jump out. They said, we just got through listening to you and Adam on the YouTube. Can we have a picture? So what I'm saying is these people are listening.
Starting point is 01:21:50 Hell yeah. Right, they're listening. And what Ad Helfth, they need to understand, is OSJ or the people in that county jail, heard that recording, which was where? On the internet, Instagram, YouTube, you think the same people ain't hearing what he's saying and delivering that to the goddamn DA
Starting point is 01:22:10 as his character and saying he's a part of this, that involved, this, that, and the other? This dude is crazy as hell. Yeah, I gave him warning. After I gave him warning, look, they pulled shooter out and questioned him about it. He ran more content. This is all your fault, bro. I put him in position.
Starting point is 01:22:35 I put him on social media. Suicide bombers. He already had a channel before I put him on the pod. Yeah, but his channel, it was over there. It was, yeah, you gave. And a whitefire hard. I'm fucking popping up my service bat. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:22:49 So, have you been to the neighborhood? To the neighborhood? To your neighborhood. Yeah, I'm going to go back right now when I leave. Because they seem to think that you ain't good over there. On me, I ain't good at my hood. They seem to think. Who's he that?
Starting point is 01:23:05 600. Six hundred. Six hundred crazy as much. Six hundred ain't good in my hood. I'm the one that caught him and made sure he was good. And I'm pressed the homies of body. What? What are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:23:15 Yeah, 600 been going. He's been going at you bed. He said you was a buster. You did buster shit. We had an argument on Clubhouse. I said 600. People don't know what they're doing that type of situation, man. No, no, I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:23:29 You got to just get out of that situation. You got to, you got to just, you know what I'm saying? You got to make it out. You got to give a little. Yeah, you got to surrender to tech because if I'm, long as I make it out. They want you to act like a bitch so that they could feel like they really did something. So you got to give them at least a little bit of like, I bow down. No, no.
Starting point is 01:23:45 And I'm not. And I'm not. And I ain't even going to lie because I'm a real, I'm a real nigga. If it's me, my homies, anything, right? At the time, that's the emotion. I was in a fearful, you know what I'm saying? I'm trying to get out this situation. You thought they was going on alive of you?
Starting point is 01:23:58 Probably when you heard the old dude say. Yeah. You get there already hit me, nigga. Why I don't, well, I don't think. This shit ain't funny. But I can hear an old crazy geezer who been down up close to 30. You got to hit him in the neck. Yulksden him in the neck.
Starting point is 01:24:13 I'll be you. If you were part of this. No, let me tell you why it wouldn't be me. I'm coming back down on the pill. I'd have been in jail forever. I don't need one of these little motherfuckers. Or you don't know when it's an undercover in the cell with you. They do that too.
Starting point is 01:24:27 On B. Bray's case. You see they slid undercover in there with his crime. And dude told him some information they used that against him. Let's say they hit him in the neck. I don't need them saying, well, he told him to hit him in the neck. Now, I'm down there on the pill. I'm going back up with another life sentence. I'm not saying nothing.
Starting point is 01:24:46 Right. But then you did kind of give a mixed situation because you said on the recording, when we was talking, the old dude, the old dudes, the old dudes, really wasn't with it.
Starting point is 01:24:56 Are you saying they didn't get involved physically? Oh, no, no, I'm talking about the old dudes. The old dudes that's from, my n'niko, my n'niko,
Starting point is 01:25:02 my n'niko's, my nigga, what the fuck y'all got going on? Like, man, like, once they heard all the commotion and shit, they, it was already, they're like,
Starting point is 01:25:11 then they're over by that time, but they're like, what the fuck going on? Like, he's like, We ain't, hell no. Like,
Starting point is 01:25:17 there ain't going down like that. Like, niggas ain't supposed to get out like that, bro. Like, and then they start going,
Starting point is 01:25:23 they start going out and the shit, you know what I'm saying? At that point, I'm like, I can see me with my niggas out. I will tell you this,
Starting point is 01:25:29 when you were in prison in jail, wherever you'll be, if the wrong dudes got, is in place, it's going to be a bad situation. The right dudes are in place.
Starting point is 01:25:38 I didn't have been in situations where, you know, Keyways then came in, and I know him, and I didn't let it happen. I didn't be in situation where I didn't walk into some shit and they didn't let it happen.
Starting point is 01:25:49 So, you know, I don't care who you are, how tough you think you is. When your ass out there, this 10, 15 to 1, 20 to 1, right, you only gonna be tough for so long. You could squabble, you could do it all till you do it. Eventually, you're going to succumb
Starting point is 01:26:05 to whatever it is they want you to succumb to. And he's lucky, he was really dealing with some dudes that really wasn't savages and really was just clout chasing. I've seen people get raped, tied up,
Starting point is 01:26:21 stuffed up under the bump. You know what I'm saying? All type of stuff. Yeah, the niggas is just cloud chasing because, I didn't see a nigga. That's why it just ended up happening to me, you know what I'm saying? Like, I didn't heard about it happens,
Starting point is 01:26:34 seen it happen. It happens, bro. It happens, you know what I'm saying? It goes on, you know what I'm saying? So we can honestly say them dudes hollering T. T. Grizzly name had nothing to do with T. Grizzly in any way
Starting point is 01:26:48 putting something on your head to do something to baby shooter. Man, that niggins don't even know them niggas, man. Man, he don't know them, meagrester at all, bro. Talking like, that was a catch to get the internet attention. You think it was catching to get their attention and to see if T. Grizzly may reach out. T. Grizzly be a damn fool to reach out to them dudes. In any way.
Starting point is 01:27:10 Because, like, a lot of people were, like, putting it out there, like, oh, this is fucked up. a dude from Detroit is getting between Crips and L.A. And look at T. Grizzly. He's such a mob boss. Like, you know, he's really out here putting money on people. There's some real 40s that been on my phone who did not. I can show you on this phone.
Starting point is 01:27:26 Did not agree with that. If you're doing that because you got an issue with that neighborhood cool. But don't say that you doing that out of respects or in regards to somebody that ain't from this jungle just because a dude you don't. don't know that you're moving for a dude to try to gain some favor because it makes it look like a rapper, a regular common rapper, T. Grisian from nowhere. And, you know, he run with the opposite side. Has that type of impact that you're moving just because that don't happen out here. Yeah, it look crazy. It look crazy. You're moving just because it look, it don't look right. It takes away from the whole aura of what this thing stands for and what you, with this
Starting point is 01:28:13 supposed to be. And I don't believe personally T. Grizzly, nobody in T. Grizzly camp called that in. I think that they was like, hating on shooter. Shooter running around here. He putting up, you know, people that sent him birthday wishes. And he over here and he over there and he over here and he over there, the Stunner Grill situation. All these things is going on. He's famous. He's from an obhood. He got earring. The earrings alone sticking out of his ears. It seemed like they probably were the, you know,
Starting point is 01:28:48 motherfuckers that are robbing each other or nothing in there. If you got earrings that are worth worth a thousand dollars, a couple thousand dollars, I mean, that's enough for them to jump up. I pay $8,500 for them business,
Starting point is 01:28:56 but, you know what I'm saying? And there, it doubled a price. So they probably, they probably try to, anybody can get them a dove for it, but they could probably try to get somewhere close to it. But them think they care about smoking that shit
Starting point is 01:29:06 so much, they'll probably take a couple that out, you know what they're going to have to send that out with one of the shares, give it, Give it a praise and say, look, give us this for it. Because ain't nobody in there. They're like, nigga, what I'm doing?
Starting point is 01:29:19 They don't want to get caught with it right now because, like Attorney Jasmine said, it ain't no telling. It's no telling what they know. It's cameras in there, shit in here. Y'all saying what y'all got, y'all screaming your name out, y'all saying certain things, right? You get caught with that.
Starting point is 01:29:37 They don't need shooter. Them people that's on that recording. They don't need shit. if they really want to go press the gas, mash on the gas, and say, nah, you conspire with this. We hear the man in distress in the background. We hear you saying this in the name of this and the name of that. And I wouldn't be surprised if they tap T. Grizzly on his shoulder,
Starting point is 01:30:02 which ain't cool. I don't believe he had anything to do with anything. I just believe it was a clout move. And I'm going to be real. This is why I say the streets is a myth, Adam. The dudes do anything to be known. Yeah, it's crazy.
Starting point is 01:30:17 I mean, this is going to be a loose cannon situation if those dudes get caught. That's a fact. Because they could have done it in the darkness of the prison and not had anybody know and instead they wanted everybody to know and they might go down.
Starting point is 01:30:29 That was the whole move. Yeah. That was the whole move. I got a call from Folsom at, I don't know what time it happened. At about 630, 536, I got a call from Folsom from Savi. He said, Wack, you talked to shooter?
Starting point is 01:30:47 No. He said, man, we get an information that this happened to him, and they got a tape. That's how you found out? I said back that night. Because you told me it was coming out before it came out. I told you. I said, bro, the tape will come out on shooter. I get to the thing that night.
Starting point is 01:31:06 I'm telling Jaff five, Japp. They said, they got a whoop-to-woo-to-woop. We like, whack, no shit. You think you? I said, I don't know. They're going to send it. I don't know. I told him to send it.
Starting point is 01:31:15 I don't know what they're talking about. Ten minutes later, Jap had it on his phone. He said, whack, the tape you're talking about is real. I got it. Right?
Starting point is 01:31:28 So, I think, I'm going to be real. I think it came to a point as a human being. You was in fear of your life. Hell yeah. And I'm trying to get about that shit.
Starting point is 01:31:47 Nigel, you know, And I ain't Kevin, right? I got a million dollars cash in my bank account, bro, my first time ever in my life, right? Why the fuck I want to be dying in prison? For sure. You just get two years in the county. In the county fighting two licenses.
Starting point is 01:32:01 And you didn't hear him for 72 hours. 72 hours. And your life flashing before your hour. For my eyes, I'm going in and out of conscience all that type of my fucking. You know what I'm saying? It's like, I'm like, I'm like, niggas like, come on, you got it, nigga. At the moment, I'm like, I'm trying to get up out of it right now. When I get out and hear myself, I'm like,
Starting point is 01:32:18 damn car i did say some work-ass bitch-ass shit you know what i said i should have let there we go you feel me there we go there we go he kept it i'm a real nigga you feel me when i look back at it i'm like y'all i didn't say some work-ass bitch-ass shit you know what i'm saying but i'm trying to get about that shit in this situation now when he when he kept saying um you had nothing to do with nothing tell him you had nothing to do with nothing was he keying in on the teakrisly shit no Look, read the fire. Who was he talking about? You had the purple.
Starting point is 01:32:51 Yeah. I'll read that right there. That conversation right there is the whole, what we was talking about right there. That, because they're trying to make it seem T. Grizzly. Nothing to do with T. Grizzly. You feel me? That right there is what's going on. You want me to read it?
Starting point is 01:33:12 I want me to do dramatic Adam 22-22-style reading of these. It's real gang shit being seen. It's dense. And when you said, it's not a problem. Yeah. Cause if I say food, that's it. Well, I say gang,
Starting point is 01:33:25 so this is you talking to who? That's my cousin. Okay. That was on a case with us. Your cousin, it was the purple or the white. I'm the purple. You're the purple. So you said,
Starting point is 01:33:33 on the dead homies, get it from me. Let me see. I'm gonna put cut out. Okay. Top. Top right here. Yesterday.
Starting point is 01:33:47 Yesterday I purple. Purple. Oh shit. It might have moved. What's the gang? Where you go to the game? Yeah, move. I see the slide again.
Starting point is 01:33:55 You slide again. Yeah, it moved like when you gave it to me, but... Go to your, yeah, yeah, it's slid. Oh, yeah, it's going to run away to the top. Okay. You said, gang, you ain't got that statement of two boy. They packed me out because Cah said I gave the police my phone instead of him. He tried to turn the tables on me, on the dead homies.
Starting point is 01:34:21 Your cousin said, never. Yeah, I got you. I'm going to get it for you. You said, on the dead homies. Yeah, get it for me. I'm going to put Cah out there. there. Your cousin said, yeah, he's super bunk for that. I got you. It's good. You said, I bet. On the dead homies, he was talking crazy on both our names, N-word, neighborhood dudes believed
Starting point is 01:34:44 to-Kin-a-n-n-killed. Right. He said, time for exposure. You said, dead homies, we're going to have this N-word go viral. So the dude told him you did what he did. exactly but I still don't think that was the reason I just think it was claw chasing how the one
Starting point is 01:35:03 real I think it was it was cloud chasing from the top but that's why they tried to explain to my name
Starting point is 01:35:11 from 9-0 and the older Nick from Hunter is why they bust on me you feel me that's why they tried to explain
Starting point is 01:35:17 that's why they stab a nigga up like oh homie said this paper you know what I'm saying and that's a
Starting point is 01:35:23 legitimate region if that's the case but it's like all right how the paperwork hell no it's impossible because he the one did it
Starting point is 01:35:31 so right you think it's facing a lot of time right I take care of a lot of money is on a level four right boom so when they get there or you start the real you start the real crap in the county jail or some shit you have 100% proof on a straight
Starting point is 01:35:47 law they're out of there but this is why everything at half a saying or why I didn't or we not it ain't valid He's valid. I think it's just capping, bro. At first I'm thinking like, I'm thinking like, oh, that's the homie.
Starting point is 01:36:03 Maybe they're just telling the homie some shit, bro. You know what I'm saying? He's going off of it. No, he went in on your ass. And then I'm hearing this shit. I'm like, this nigga is going, coming up with shit as he go. I'm like, this nigga crazy, man. I think of this is coming up with shit as he go.
Starting point is 01:36:17 Like a good YouTuber. What? So you told him that shit. No, but I'm just saying like, you know, you look at Flaco, you look at Ross or whatever. Like, what's more important? Getting the facts right? or making an entertaining video with a good title
Starting point is 01:36:29 that's gonna get some views. Yeah, yeah. He killed the motherfucker at the taco truck. No, yeah. Next day. Oh, my bad. It wasn't a taco truck.
Starting point is 01:36:36 Yeah. Hey, now that's what I told them. He's got 200,000 views already. Yo, okay, so we got to, people in the chat are like, you don't have cuts on your face, you don't have cuts on your hand, and you seem to be moving your arm a little bit
Starting point is 01:36:49 within the cast. They basically are saying, he got a sling on. But they're, yeah, the sling. But they're acting like you made the whole thing up. My question. is who the fuck would make that up
Starting point is 01:36:59 especially as a gang number out of LA. Why would you lie about all that? You're trying to justify hollering and screaming because you was in this pain but they said nothing and nothing. That's what they did. They're saying you're trying to make it look like you got hurt worse than you actually did
Starting point is 01:37:13 to justify why you were screaming on the phone. These people probably never had a fight in their life. I'm probably never, but I'm gonna tell you shit. I'm gonna say up. They had me, nigga, and I said what I said. And I said what it is. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:37:27 That got me, nigga. And this was almost a week ago, right? Yeah. So, I mean, did you look worse at first? I had cousin sitting here, remember saying? I see a cut. That shit went down. Like, that shit goes away.
Starting point is 01:37:38 Yeah, a lot of, like, small wounds. That shit went away. Like, you know what I'm saying? That shit went away. So do you kind of like, because I know what happens when I'm a situation like that, I tend to remember certain people. Oh, man. Okay, so you remember certain people?
Starting point is 01:37:55 I'm not talking about to stop you. They was bad at B because they like, whack you justify. I said, I'm not justified nothing. I'm just simply telling you that man is in and out. He ain't going to be in there five years, one year, 10 years. And my whole thing, sometimes people don't think. If you know you in there looking at a long period of time,
Starting point is 01:38:17 you know, this dude is who he is and he knows for certain things, you've got to know what you're doing. Better know it. You get what I'm saying? But like Ann said, man, dudes being there bored looking to do something. He did say people be on there on spice or whatever that is. I don't know why. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:38:37 These new drugs, I'm outdated. That would be the hardest part about getting locked up would be fighting the urge to smoke spice and just wig out. What is it due to you? Oh, man. It's like, it's like crazy weed, right? Like it's a little bit like weed, but then like it makes you wild to fuck out. Exactly like that. PCP on paper type of shit.
Starting point is 01:38:56 PCP without making them cock strong. It probably makes cox strong too. Yeah, PCP, boy, you think you can catch a bullet. I didn't see dudes try to catch a bullet and die. Fire the good, I'll catch it with my teeth. I didn't see them do all kinds of shit. Run out there in the middle of the street, gotta go head up with a car PCP.
Starting point is 01:39:14 They act just how they act on PCP. Man, Wu-Tang, one of my favorite rap groups of all the time. They were all off dust that whole time. So I feel like it probably has- My Lord's running down into a bullet for I shirmed up. He was off that water. I always wanted to try it. So next question.
Starting point is 01:39:34 What's your next move? You think your clout gone? You're going to not, hell, hell, no, man. That's not how it works these days. No, I'm just saying you think your clout gone? Hell no. You survive some crazy shit. They make fun of you for a week,
Starting point is 01:39:46 and then it becomes like you survived that. Okay. Did you take a worst-ass-wurst-wold? than Adam did in the ring. It sounds like it was worse. Way worse than Adam. Yeah. I mean, if it was 10, niggas just packing me,
Starting point is 01:40:02 I'm gonna be honest with you. Yeah, 10 Jason loves in there. If they were just fucking just fucking me up, I would just bar up, put my leg by my elbows, and just let them go to work. And stay right there until they got tired, because it's 10 them, they can't reach me like that. When they put in me in doing all this, kind of hard.
Starting point is 01:40:20 So it was like, hell yeah, I took worse work. Because somebody said that, the dude that identified itself, they said, dude like a kid. I mean, he probably was a kid. The niggas been in there a little while now. You know, it's crazy, though.
Starting point is 01:40:35 It shocked me because when I was fighting that case, we back and forth, nigger, from the 7 and 14 tanks, we're holl in, we're talking about shit, nigger,
Starting point is 01:40:47 little shit we're going to do when you get out and all this little shit. That nigger was a cool nigga. You knew him when he was, before you got out, you ran across. Yeah, we was going back and forth
Starting point is 01:40:56 to court. worked together for about two years. Oh shit. It was a cloud move. Kind of like, oh, that thing got out and because he told me yourself like, you got out and got on. Heard heard you was doing this and
Starting point is 01:41:08 doing that. Hurts you were whacking him. I'm like, yeah, I'm like, yeah, regular shit. You know what I'm saying? I'm not allowed about it though because I ain't like, to me it's regular to them niggas is like a dream comes true, you know what I'm saying? Like, whatever.
Starting point is 01:41:19 Like, I'm already at the level. So, like, you feel me? I guess they just imagine it in their head and they're like, damn. Whatever, you know what I'm saying? And we can come up with a little name for us. This shit. Someone.
Starting point is 01:41:31 You're going to put a song about it when they get out? You ain't worried about it. Nah. Your home thing tripping in the neighborhood. Oh, me? Yeah, they ain't tripping over there. Hell no. I took eyeswhip and kept it against them.
Starting point is 01:41:44 I ain't telling them niggas. I ain't rolling it up, me. A lot of niggas took an ass with me. Yeah. It's respectable. You got to do that. I ain't never been knocked out, but I didn't seen them little stars before. getting back out.
Starting point is 01:41:56 I ain't never went to sleep but I definitely seen them little stories. We was taught that when you get to that point you just key in on one and just beat him as much as they beating you.
Starting point is 01:42:06 Remember I just said that? I did that, nigga, and I had a nigga, and I had a nigga two times good and again, this motherfucker before you know
Starting point is 01:42:11 this motherfucker wasn't going no more this motherfucker. Oh yeah, you lost your arm. Yeah, that was bad. That's bad. I wasn't going no more.
Starting point is 01:42:16 I was over with. That's bad word. I know the chat wondering, like I said, when I heard myself when I got out, I said, Yeah, I said some bitch ass nigger shit
Starting point is 01:42:25 You know what I'm saying? When you're in it I'm fair at a moment You're trying to get out You're gonna say it Listen, man So as far as you concerned You did what you had to do
Starting point is 01:42:36 To survive Most definitely So the chat is here You hear They didn't hear Some of this story partially for what you told me And I put it up
Starting point is 01:42:43 Right? This is the whack pack chat So you already know I think you was acting Acting what? I think some of that shit was act What That was out?
Starting point is 01:42:53 for you to get out. I think you was acting when you was old you were screaming like that. I don't think it was all I think you had a little fear in you because he was going out consciously but I think
Starting point is 01:43:05 some of it was that. I think that's some shit you didn't rehearse before. Nah, I did put actions on. I'm saying I did. Okay. Give me a buck this. So you got to get a buck this bitch.
Starting point is 01:43:15 You got to get a chat, you got to get a chat of demonstration. You got to get a chat of demonstration. How to get out of jail. Go. being attacked. No, we want to hear the demonstration. Help! Oh, let me go!
Starting point is 01:43:32 Fire! Fire! Fire! We want a baby shooter demonstration. Since we trolled we trolled, we try. I'll be crying like a baby. I'm like, ah! Y'all try to kill me in this motherfuck! My hands up and everything.
Starting point is 01:43:49 Y'all try to kill me in this motherfuck. They said, no, we're not. Just come by the phone. If you might catch a dick of this guy three would have. Like, hell no. Hey, y'all get off that nigga. What you're talking about? Oh, hey, you don't know,
Starting point is 01:44:04 be real. For the next couple nights, some of them dudes wasn't sleeping right. No. Because that shit went viral. It went crazy. They saying, damn, Cove, neighborhood. Hope that nigga keep it solid. This is real shit. Right. And then they get mad
Starting point is 01:44:20 and Haffei, because he constantly pumping and screaming out details and names. Your guy, he all the way up under your armpit. I haven't really talked to him besides on the pod over the phone. I mean, he told on himself the first. You got him. You asked the question.
Starting point is 01:44:37 The magical question. Look, I just put these guys on the pod. I don't know how they're going to handle the hardships that later come their way. You said you just ask the questions and told them to answer it? Oh, when I asked them about the DP thing, I didn't think he was going to say all that. Like, I just felt like that was like so much more than I asked for when I was like, I was just giving them opportunity to say like, hell and now, I want no DP. these motherfuckers are crazy.
Starting point is 01:44:58 I thought he was going to do. Listen. Listen. I hate to say it, and I'm really tripping, like, really handling this well. He handling this shit like there's no big deal. Man. Me, I would not be making YouTube videos. I would not be calling in talking about no topics.
Starting point is 01:45:15 You got bigger shit to handle, man. That's crazy shit. Bro, and he's positioning himself like he's the one. He's the shot caller. He's talking crazy on the phone. I'm going to tell you that right now. So what's the word on that? Well, what are they saying about that in the community?
Starting point is 01:45:32 All this shit he's saying on the phone. Niggas ain't not feeling that, bro, because it's like, me like, why are you saying all this shit on the phone, bro, right? They already positioned you as a certain rogue and a crime, and you're talking on this motherfuckuckin' crazy. Like, what the fuck? Like, what are you? You know what I'm the, niggas ain't feeling that?
Starting point is 01:45:52 I don't understand, bro. You know what I'm saying? I was just in there fighting life, too, for two years. I ain't on that motherfuck making them more content about nothing because you is the goddamn content at this point
Starting point is 01:46:04 you know what I'm saying? I mean that's the thing that's crazy about it is that like it seems like almost a universal opinion that he shouldn't be talking so freely about this shit
Starting point is 01:46:14 but then meanwhile as much as I fuck with the guy he's so hardheaded that like everybody's saying that he's saying too much is not gonna like lead him to be like
Starting point is 01:46:25 oh my bad I ficked up. You know, it's crazy. I swear to God, I need to be a real stand-up. Before this podcast and content shit, I don't know if you got it to him at him or what. He was a real stand-up nigga, bro.
Starting point is 01:46:36 He was a quiet nigga and everything. He don't talk much, bro. You know what I'm saying? He straight by the cold. Now he's coming over shit as he go and talking too much about some shit and talking some shit he don't even know about. It was like, damn, an n-a-a-a-n-n-win-to-d disrespect you, bro.
Starting point is 01:46:53 I know your family, bro. I know your family, bro. I know your family, bro. I grew up with your brother. niggas is juven our hard with the middle school elementary together and your brother
Starting point is 01:46:59 you know what I'm saying like I don't want to disrespect you on hair cut but you steady going at this shit bro like come on Cud you're making up as you go
Starting point is 01:47:07 like come on bro that's crazy and making the story up like he was there logg like come on fool shit crazy yeah
Starting point is 01:47:15 yeah man hey I don't know but that's shit insane hey yeah I got a side question when I interviewed forest yesterday he said you keep bringing up
Starting point is 01:47:25 fake four extras on here. Who do you think he was talking about? Because I kept saying, you're talking about Jay Hood? And he wouldn't say that he was talking about Jay Hood, but I've been thinking about that. Like, who do you think he was referring to? I mean, listen, not to be started. Obviously, Smoketface is kind of the other option, right?
Starting point is 01:47:42 But we already know that he's a dude. I've been saying that. But bringing up my cousin is like, no, but no, but no, he's trying to be that. Like he's trying to follow four extras in his trail and he can't. He's just not him. He's just not him.
Starting point is 01:47:57 He's pushing peace. Huh? He ain't pushing peace. That nigga don't know what the fuck. Well, he ain't pushing war like four extra do. He got to be pushing war because the shit he, that's how his channel got blew up. You over here in the dual neighborhood talking about you over and looking for him for a fake. That ain't peace.
Starting point is 01:48:13 That's war. That's just ice cream. No, that's, you, you're saying things to where, listen, once upon a time it was a time where I saw a sporty face I sat down and I did a pop. podcast when I didn't know it. I remember. Now, right, he's moving around very uncomfortable. Because he don't know what's to come, right? That's not peace.
Starting point is 01:48:35 You didn't went from being in a peaceful state to be being paranoid right now. So I don't think he was talking about Jay Hood because he know who Jay Hood is. But like when he says a fake four extra, you're talking about somebody who was real turned up, was in prison and was beat motherfuckers up. That's Jay Hood. Listen, Jay Hood is Jay Hood as four extras is four extras. There is nobody that can say Jay Hood is trying to act like them because Jay Hood's reputation is solidified from the very things he did.
Starting point is 01:49:10 And I'm not. You know that. Right. Jay Hood, you know what I'm saying. Ain't no pretending to be what four extras did. Four extras did. What Jay Hood did. Jay Hood did.
Starting point is 01:49:21 And we got to isolate that. He's talking about sporting. face. Maybe, but I don't know. He seems like like he's still got a lot of love
Starting point is 01:49:30 for Spodyface, so I felt like he wasn't talking about him because Jay Hood has talked about Forrestra and kind of tossed doubt
Starting point is 01:49:35 about the way that Forrestra has told certain stories. Like what stories? I can't even remember exactly, but there's definitely
Starting point is 01:49:41 but the baby, you know, if Jay Hood and B. Bray is kind of close. Maybe he spoke on that. I don't know. He might
Starting point is 01:49:46 spoke on that. I think Jay Hood said that that fight didn't go the way that they said or whatever. Look, Jay Hood
Starting point is 01:49:53 for Extra Kamp. I'm pretty sure there's Jay Hood on the wild For Extra versus B. Braz fight. Forester's mouth and nose were busted and Braes couldn't breathe. So probably he don't love that. He probably said it was...
Starting point is 01:50:06 Actually, that's only two days ago though. Listen, hey, listen, as much as four extra fight, of course this shit gonna get busted at a time or two. My shit didn't got busted and I still wanting to fight. Yeah. Right? So, you know, at the end of the day,
Starting point is 01:50:22 um... But yeah, Jay Hood has talked much about four extra losing to to braise which actually doesn't sound possible like maybe braz is bigger than i'm imagining he has that story in the county though really that braise won that fade swear to god i ain't lying damn that's crazy if true for extra i'm not saying it's true but if true i heard the story though swear to god damn it's funny that there's a clip from three months ago crick matt goes off on j hood you were on a pc yard you're a nobody's stop chow chow Yeah, but he was on a 50-50 yard for real.
Starting point is 01:50:55 I know, but that's why it's funny. And I'm going to be real. If Crip Mac ever ran into Jay Hood, he's going to run. You think? I'm telling you he's going to run. Dude is going to take off running. The character, the little garbage pill character, all that shit's out the door.
Starting point is 01:51:17 He got his nemesis, Jay Hood, one of them, jab five, another one, the boy from Brim to knock his teeth out. We got his little people that he's going to run. Yeah. Everything changed. When he ran in the blue face, everything changed. I don't know about that, but I...
Starting point is 01:51:30 He changed. I got to be a good gang interpreter for my BMX group chat the other day because they were all like, yo, why Crip Matt got the anti-bicycle thing on his hand? I had to be like, well, gentlemen, let me tell you. So I felt like I was able to kind of be a bridge there, help them understand. I mean, listen, dude, I don't be real. Either they just don't take dude serious, a dude just he don't hang out like that.
Starting point is 01:51:59 Who? Crip Mac. He'd be on his own time, man. Yeah, because the shit he got on his body, you know, Shooter. Right? You know, and then who he is, like how they went clout chasing with Shooter? They damn sure love to do it with him.
Starting point is 01:52:16 Right. I don't wish nothing bad on him. I think R&B enjoys his content. She thinks he's hilarious the way he talks. She said he should go do voiceovers and shit. Think he has some history there. That's the best. Great, great American.
Starting point is 01:52:30 But I hope you don't ever, like, cross him up with Jay Hood. I would not do that unless they were both on board, which doesn't really seem likely at this moment. Jay Hood ain't tripping. Yeah, yeah, I think Jayhood would do it. Jay Hu would sit down. Yeah, he's not tripping. I wouldn't really do that unless they had already had a combo.
Starting point is 01:52:50 But if Rickback come playing them games with them antics, trying to sneak this and do little shit he think he'd be doing, raising his voice, nephew's going to sock him out. That's a fact. Well, I'm not going to create that environment. You wouldn't be able to stop it. Well, I'm going to just, like, avoid it and not put them together. Like, Jay Hood ain't going to trip,
Starting point is 01:53:11 but I just believe Crip Mac could get overanimated. Okay, paper chaser said, Wack, what do you think about Ray J getting marked out by sauce? Don't try to move the goalposts from either. Ray J is from a hood with people under his name, and he turned it down. Ray J and Sauce were streaming I talked to Sauce Walker this morning
Starting point is 01:53:28 I talked to Ray J the night before and Sauce Walker has since put up things with him and Ray J fixing that Yeah because that was a clip but then there was a clip like right after them getting over it right All Ray J shit was in Sauce Walker car at the time You mentioned me to the sauce? No
Starting point is 01:53:47 Okay You got to get Sauce to come on here I believe that, because I didn't know what went on. Because when I called Saul, I said, bro, you tripped over him talking about how many diamonds you got in your mouth, right? He like, no, what? He had made a statement about what rapper plays his music that much of something on the stream. And Sauce took offense to that, right?
Starting point is 01:54:15 Right. So I had a conversation with Sauce, and he liked, whack, he said that on the stream, so I had to dress it on the stream. But then the conversation went a little further. You know, when we get to talking about how it's supposed to go after that. Sauce agreed, you know, we all homies. You know, sauce, everybody knows that once California, I don't really acknowledge gang members outside of California.
Starting point is 01:54:37 I mean, you don't respect it. If you were in Texas and you ended up doing some content with a Hoover out there, you're going to respect their politics, right? No, I don't engage. I don't acknowledge them. I don't get a part of their politics. I ain't saying they don't exist. I ain't saying they ain't real.
Starting point is 01:54:52 We got a whole neighborhood in Nashville somewhere, right? But that's their thing, right? My shit stops once I cross California state line. But Sals Walker is one of those dudes that we do acknowledge. Okay. We acknowledge Sons Walker. You know what I mean? He got extreme love over here, and he shows us extreme love over there.
Starting point is 01:55:13 So it's always a conversation that can be had, you know, when we get on the phone. And him and Ray J. They hit me this morning on the FaceTime after I spoke with both of them. And they got that right. So, you know, homies get into it sometime. Ray J is a full character on that stream. Yeah. He's like 607.
Starting point is 01:55:31 You turn that camera on. He's turning to something. When the camera go off, he's back to go. But that shit was crazy to me because Sauce just immediately goes to, I'm a multi-millionaire. It's like, he's clowning you for, like, listening to your music too much. And you go, like, basically make it fun of you for being an egomaniac. And then your response is to be like, I'm a multi-millionaire.
Starting point is 01:55:52 It's like, okay, this is the corny shit that he was laughing at you for. Well, what it was was Ray J got to remember that Sals Walker is a real home and he's just not a character like, like, believe it or not, y'all think AB be drunk playing. Every now and then, A.B. goes back to who he really is and starts to address some shit. You're talking about a nigga that didn't touch hundreds of millions, and now he on here, he's playing and clowning,
Starting point is 01:56:17 but sometime he and is drunk as he thinks he is and you slide some shit, And he'd be like, nigga, you want what you, you know, he'd be serious. Sauce is not a streaming character. He's just streaming. And that's where Ray J, right, kind of forgot because when he's in streaming mode, he running content. When I go down there with him to his little spot, I know he's in streaming mode. So he may say it, do some things.
Starting point is 01:56:45 But I know him and Sauce know each other is love. But Sauce like, nigga, you're a homie like I'm a homie. Certain things we ain't supposed to do. When you on stream, when you on stream, you massively incentivized to beef and then get over it. Because you're doing content together is awkward if this beef is just going to linger or whatever. But if me and you are doing a live stream and we get into a big argument, boom, that's a clip. Everybody knows that, you know. Sauce is, he's streaming.
Starting point is 01:57:15 He's not a streaming character as of yet. You get what I'm saying? Like, shooter, shooter come in here, right? and I know certain things I know not to do with him because I can sit here with you or somebody lush, right?
Starting point is 01:57:32 Because we're in character with this podcast shit. Right. Everybody ain't that. And I think Ray J. kind of like wasn't focused on. Sauce is just streaming. This dick is not in character
Starting point is 01:57:44 as a streamer. And with A.B., when I was interviewing him, he started saying some shit about how he felt like he was one of the only dudes that was staying in Atlanta that could go with Lucci and fuck with Thug, and both sides
Starting point is 01:57:58 didn't give a fuck and didn't mention it or let that be the case. And I was like, yeah, but you know, a lot of the street dudes and the rappers, they'll give a certain level
Starting point is 01:58:07 of grace to a star athlete. And he's basically like, nah, I'm really like that. He didn't want me putting him in the celebrity athlete category. I mean, because AB, that's my guy.
Starting point is 01:58:20 And I've been on AB trying to help him. And I'm glad he didn't made a mood to get his money back right, but I was on him on him, like trying to get him to rehab. And, oh, he'll tell you that, me, him and his brother and his manager on a text blast to this date. And we, you know, periodically to get on the FaceTime with each other. But A, B, he got a lot of shit going on, bro. You know, A.B.
Starting point is 01:58:44 And that damn RICO. Which Rigo? Big U. Rico. For doing what? I didn't know that. Yeah, A.B. is dead. The dice game. What's the nigga with the beard?
Starting point is 01:58:57 The ball player, a nigga from Compton. Oh, he's talking about that nigga, James Hardin? James Hardin. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, AB is dead center in the middle of that shit. Okay, so Adrian Bruner is not indicted in the rural in 60s RICO case. He is, however, named in the federal indictment as a co-conspirator slash victim regarding allegations that he scammed NBA players out of millions of dollars using rigged dice in 2019.
Starting point is 01:59:21 federal prosecutors named the former boxing champion referred to in court documents as AB in a racketeering case led by the Los Angeles music executive Big U, who is identified as a leader of the LA role in 60s Crip. The document details the following allegations surrounding that event, which was rigged games in which Broner allegedly used teased or rigged dice to cheat two high-profile NBA players out of $6.5 million during a high-stakes dice game in 2019. because Broner was not checked in with the gang leadership, the operation led by Big U allegedly intervened to help the NBA players recover their money, effectively shaking down and threatening Broner. And then celebrity extortion, the overreaching RICO indictment alleges
Starting point is 02:00:06 that the role in 60 Crips ran a celebrity protection racket and subjected famous figures to robberies and extortion. So while he has not been arrested or criminally charged in the racketeering case, the investigation exposed his involvement in the high stakes, rigged gambling circuits involving the gang's members. I wish I had asked them about that in the interview. They're going to ask him
Starting point is 02:00:27 did big you come and pressure you for those guys money back? Right. This is what they're coming at him about. Okay, you want to know some other shit. Dean the Great, when he came here, was with a bunch of sixos. And
Starting point is 02:00:43 there was a clip that came out the other day in which Dean thought that the cameraman had muted the camera right, Dean's drunk, and Dean basically starts telling a girl that the dudes, that some dudes that he was hanging out with in LA robbed his crib when he wasn't there. Yeah? And so basically like when I seen the clip, it was titled, Dean accidentally exposes that a rolling 60 member robbed his crib. So you look at that and you're like, oh, well, that kind of makes sense why Dean and Adrian
Starting point is 02:01:13 would have been brought together to do content in the first place. I don't think that played a part in it. Yeah, I mean, it's the boxing thing, obviously. is the bigger part of it, but it still might have been part of why they ended up being a tag team. And then another thing in the headlines, and I told everybody, you know I told everybody, I warned everybody. I said over a month some ago, the feds have the tape and they have the contract. Of what? I said that. Push heistee. I said the fans have the tape the video that Big 30 took when this dumb ass attorney was saying there's no tape uh it wasn't a contract it was rap lyrics i said hey look bro
Starting point is 02:01:55 i'm telling you what i know the feds got the tape yeah the feds also had a contract now watch this so now you got big 30 and his dad in there right no bail no bail so now the feds have the contract who was in there getting the contract in form of a manager, and the feds have the footage are the Big 30 phone recording, the chops handing the backpack to him, all this shit, right?
Starting point is 02:02:31 We need better criminals. You can't be filming yourselves doing this shit. Let's get to it. So prior to, you ain't got no bail. So now the feds exposed we got the tape, you get a bail. What you think happens when they find this tape,
Starting point is 02:02:50 that's the phone that's registered to you. The feds is going to go talk to who? Big 30. Right. He has no bill. Well, no, Big 30 is out. You're missing the point. He had no bill.
Starting point is 02:03:05 Now they discover the tape on his phone. The first thing they're going to do is go talk to who? Him, Big 30. after this discovery, which puts you in a worst situation, it put you the situation that were, oh shit, you really part of this thing, now you got a bill.
Starting point is 02:03:26 So you think Big 30 is cooperating? Man, listen. He had no, his daddy his daddy's the one that had the contract. Which I see and him are like mega, mega childhood friends. The 30s never did a day in jail. Before all this?
Starting point is 02:03:42 Before all this. Now listen to me. Prior to he had. had no bill. I told the world they got the contract and the tape by the big 30 phone. Everybody say Wack don't know what he's talking about.
Starting point is 02:03:57 Pushice, the attorney said what? They don't have any of these things. That was rap lyrics. You don't recall that? They don't have no tape. They don't have none. It's just what Gucci Bane is saying, right? So now the tape pops up and then he gets a bell. See, when the tape pop up, the feds is going to
Starting point is 02:04:13 say this is your phone. This is registered to you. This is you recording this. Do you recall what's going on in here? Why did you record it? Does somebody tell you to record it? Who was this? Can you point out, identify the people that's in your
Starting point is 02:04:29 phone on this video? They're going to ask you all this. The question is Big 30, why he didn't tell us they had the tape? You ain't going to break up Chopper Game, man. Listen, the paperwork going to show it. Then you heard him say Push Icey's dangerous. He shot
Starting point is 02:04:47 two people while he was out. See? No, but that was back. They're saying he shot people like before this case, like 2020. Was he arrested for that? He went for the other case type shit? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:56 It's not like new shootings. Was he arrested for that? Yeah. He was arrested for shooting two people. He was arrested for shooting two people. Shooting the security guard in the nightclub and then shooting the guy when they were doing. What security guard in nightclub? You don't remember this?
Starting point is 02:05:07 That went away. I mean, but they still got evidence that happened. You can't say he shot anybody. But that's the shooting that there's no evidence that that happened because I know for a fact the footage went away. I don't think they have new. They don't have none of that. So my question to you is, Big 30. Did they come
Starting point is 02:05:26 talk to you about the tape? That was in your phone. Big 30 would never tell. He's a solid individual. How do you know? From rap songs? I sat down in an interview for like an hour and a half. And therefore, I know exactly what kind
Starting point is 02:05:42 of person is. Chopper gang. Chopper gang. Hey, listen. One of the finest gangs. Dad, is it dead solid? His dad is dad a rat. Straight rat. Yeah. We've seen the paperwork on him.
Starting point is 02:05:55 Well, you see that paperwork at it? It was on the internet. No shit? Yeah. That's a Wack 100 exclusive. They don't like to give me my shit. They don't like to give me. They don't like to give me my.
Starting point is 02:06:06 Shout out baby shooter. Shout out Wack 100. Everybody wants to smack the like button on it. And everybody go ask Big 30. Why he didn't tell us they had to tape. Let's go. Appreciate y'all. Much love.
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