No Jumper - BBG Steppaa on Being a 15 Year Old Drill Rapper, Carjacking Culture, Jersey Drill & More

Episode Date: March 20, 2023

Flakko sit down with BBG Steppaa about his upbringing, early rise, Jersey drill, and more. ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spo...tify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. We're back with the king of Jersey Drill, man. Bro, how do you feel like that title, man? I feel like it's like, just got to be real to a certain extent. Like, you're not fucking what we do. And I'm the youngest. Come out of my shit. He's not doing what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Like, rap like me. You put nothing in the stool with me. Go hard because you're telling me. Oh, not. Like, we've seen, right? You feel me? Because, you know, I ain't going to be messy, right? But, like, there's like the narrative, right?
Starting point is 00:00:36 Because going around now, man, like, that you carried a very big drill artist on two records. You feel me? Right? But I feel like there was, like, the first time I, like, heard you write, was on ketchup, right? Yeah. Brough.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Yo, how long did it take you to even write that verse, bro? Yeah. I don't know. That was just some shit. Yeah. I just sent that shit from. I don't even. Wait, hold up.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Like, you just sent it to him? Both of them shit. You blacked out, though. Like, you went crazy. Sent to him type. He picked the first shit. The second one, I just wanted him on that. So I just sent that shit.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Yo, bro. And you were stupid, man. But you've been in L.A. now for about four days. Yeah. Now, I think you said, like, you're working on, like, label meetings, right? Yeah, mixed tape. Oh, you're talking about signing? Yeah, I ain't going to lie pretty soon.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Pretty soon. Pretty soon. Yeah. Damn. I'd be talking anything. Yeah, right. So, I, right. So, like, when you are, you know, like, trying to, like, sign a deal, man, like, what
Starting point is 00:01:38 are you looking for? Yeah, like, just, like, terms, like, I'm trying. I don't know, cuz, like, I just feel like, if anything, even than I, like, I just feel like, it should be a goal, like, everybody, like, should be, like, the labels, they should know, like, what the shit is worth, like, you know, but, like, sometimes they don't. Sometimes they don't or they go off with the size. But I feel like if anything, even like terms, money right, all that shit, you could go. Now like when, now when, like you say money right, I know my boy BBG Stepper, he's the hottest in Jersey.
Starting point is 00:02:15 The youngest out here, you feel me? Talented, diverse. Yo, my boy going to need at least 20 amps, man. Right? At least 20 years, right? Come on, him. Yeah, we're gonna do that at least 20m's. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:02:30 Listen, man, if it ain't 20Ms, he's not signing, right? You feel, man? Oh, bro. Forget about it, man. But, all right, so where are you from? So, Jersey, but where in Jersey, man? I'm from North New Jersey. You heard south side of North New Jersey.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Southside. Yeah. Yo, now, there's a bunch of Africans there, right? Yeah. Nah, from, there ain't too many Africans. Liberians. I'm saying, it's the, I know what you said. I said, you're trying to say, why don't we say, that's from, like, different part of that.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Yeah, right? No, right. So, I used to be in, like, new work probably, like, once a year, right, growing up, right? So because there's a bunch of librarians in Jersey or, like, right? And, like, our, like, Independence Day is July 26. And there used to be, like, a big, like, celebration for our Independence Day every year in New Work, man, feel me? But just going there, man, like, help me understand, bro. Like, it's treacherous up there, bro.
Starting point is 00:03:26 You know what, bro. It's on that, bro. You feel me? So how was it like you been growing up in Newark? It's just like everything. You gonna see everything. It's like, hella bull. You bound to see.
Starting point is 00:03:42 She want to go down to my son. It might get packed, fight, fighting. Just be hell of bull, you know, because that shit is don't stop. But I'm saying, like, I don't know, because you just yell a shit, because. It's wild, bro, it's wild as hell up there, man. Wow, this hell, bro.
Starting point is 00:03:59 I think my first time up there, bro, like, my pop's, like, car got broken into, like, while... Yeah. That's still one car. Yeah. ...a shit. Bro, they, bro, they're wild up there, right? Yeah, honestly, bro.
Starting point is 00:04:11 They're going hard for that shit, like, that's their job, bro. Wait, pause. Are there Kia boys in, like, in, like, this right now? No, cuz, like, they... No, cuz, like, they're not even fucking like, from Jersey kids. They're still in street, but... straight booty shit, like just to take it, like, me and trying to get no money.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Man, I don't know what I'm. Just cracked out, feeing it. Just retarded you, really like, something on, I ain't gonna say, man. Some on, I don't know, you, bro. I don't know cuz, but, oh, you're just stealing shit. Not making no money, like, not really making, not making no money off of no money.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Cause, I don't even know, because, I don't even know, because, you might not, you know, you might not, you know, it depends, because, like, that's not, that's only for you, feel me. Be to you. Niggas be taken on shit, man. As a fact, wait, yo, so you're like 16 years old, right?
Starting point is 00:05:01 15, yeah. 15. Type shit, yeah. So, like, you're still technically a kid then, right? Yeah. Wait, so then, like, when did you, like, even start rapping? Because you're 15 years old. Start rapping, like, shit, I've been rapping since I was, like, young as hell, but, like, officially.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Yeah. This shit, last year, like, last year. Last year? Yeah. Bruh. Okay, right, so before last year, though, So, right? So, like, and now you're a lit rapper.
Starting point is 00:05:28 But before last year, man, like, what type of kid were you? Shit, I was, you feel me? Like, yeah, like, I was, like, outside, like, bro. Like, right, but before I was, you feel, me? I was outside, but, like, walking everywhere, bro. Like, shit used to, you know, it used to be fun as hell. Like, this shit just, as niggas, gregor old and shit, did you feel me? Everybody broke apart.
Starting point is 00:05:54 broke apart. Yeah. You feel me? You feel me? You feel me? You feel you're trying? You feel you trying? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Listen, man. And bruh, I'm trying to lie, niggas. Nah, I ain't worry about that. Niggas getting hated because they winning. Yeah, niggas. All right. They ain't know. They ain't know, right now, man, Cali.
Starting point is 00:06:14 They, bro, listen, bro, like, they write that was cracked out and bugged out, man. Wait, though, so, like, have you, like, you've made new ops as you became a new ops as you became, you know, like more successful? Nah, man, what you're saying, bro? No? Nah, man, I ain't made no ops, bro. Still be for the same, man, man. Whatever got problems with me,
Starting point is 00:06:35 you from me, I got more successful. Like, that shit, fool, bro. Yeah. Yo, right? Here, right? It's a better question, right? So, I think the song is called, like, die every block, right?
Starting point is 00:06:47 Yeah. Bro, you dissed a thousand niggas that we ain't ever heard of, bro. Yeah, I'd be real, bro. Like, yo, bro, like, I'm like, bro, like, why is he dissing like these, like, these nobodies? I don't know these niggas, you feel me? Yeah, no, yeah. Niggas, man, I just be jelling off, nays.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Yeah. Like the dude, that shit, they be mad as hell, clowning on things. And I'm making money off clowning on nays. Like, all in the hood, serving fiends, bro. Bro, that's wild, man. Here, right? So, like, do you feel, though, like, you will, you will ever get to a point where, like, you You were just way too big, and if you ever dissed these niggas, they can make like a whole
Starting point is 00:07:24 career off this shit, right? Would you ever stop dissing niggas? Hell yeah, bro. Yeah. I'd just be seeing a little shit like on TikTok, just videos, bro, like, shit just going off just because like, niggas screen recorded this shit, I guess. Yeah. You feel me, nicks dissing me and shit, that shit clapped off, bro, that's the most views, real
Starting point is 00:07:43 views that the nicks ever seen, bro, and it's on a whole different platform. Yeah. They probably ain't anything. I said, I don't know, shit got he got hella likes, hella coms, hey. Yeah, man. Bro. No, right. But like, speaking to real views, though, right?
Starting point is 00:07:56 So, like, now I'm starting, like, to notice right there, like, it on the East Coast, but it's a flux of, like, the fake views now, right? Bro, a lot of niggas use them fake views, bro. Like, what's the purpose in that, though? I don't see it. You're not going to it. Literally, like, you're not getting paid for this shit, nothing. You're not going to it, bro.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Yeah. Shit, not building your Instagram. That shit just looked up. The first couple days to nicks find out, figure out that shit, fake. I'm saying, like, nigga, if you're smart, you could just look at that shit, bro. Yeah. Like, the ob's abused that shit, bro. Like, when I say abuse that shit, abuse that shit,
Starting point is 00:08:31 like, they should be at 500 views and seven hours. You wake up the next morning. Shit out, like 10, 15K. What? No, that's crazy. I don't fucking think you playing with. No, that's crazy. When it's set, next day, 45.
Starting point is 00:08:41 The G. No cop. That's wild. That's wild, bro. Let me be sad. Nah, that's trash. That's wild, bro. Niggies really think they're doing something,
Starting point is 00:08:48 but they're really going in that. They're the hottest out of this shit. Niggas not even put it. They're old views. I'm telling me, like, you ain't had this fake-ass label behind y'all. Niggas gonna be bullshit. Yo,
Starting point is 00:09:02 but speaking of fake labels, right? Yo, like, that's a thing in the hood, right? Like, we're like, niggers create, like, a Facebook page. Like, say, yo, like, this is get rich records, right? Right? Signed a bunch of nobodies.
Starting point is 00:09:20 No budget, no nothing. Nothing. Niggas just signing their life for, like, $500, a pack of Zaza, and a pair of married jeans, man. Nah, that's wild. You don't need to get all right, bro. Nah? Probably not, bro.
Starting point is 00:09:34 No, bro. They didn't get in the married jeans? No, bro. That's crazy, though, man. I don't even get all right, bro. Nah, that's wild, man. They're signing for street bullshit. Yo, bro, if I find out that any one of you niggas is signing me,
Starting point is 00:09:50 for like a pack of Reggie, bro. Now, that's wild, bro. That's great. A grandma reggie to sign your life for a way. That's great. Yo, man, here, right? I don't think nobody that's stupid. Now, listen, though.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Your Al's might be as stupid. Maybe. You feel me? Yo, right? So, like, speak on this, man. So when did you say, yo, I'm gonna start rapping? Uh, I don't know what time, shit. I've been, like, bro, like, since I was young, bro. Like, I really, I told you like this shit.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Got to the serious. Yeah. Like, really, like, last year, but, like, thought about this shit, like, right after my father, though, like, I thought about going hard for this type of shit. Yeah. Like, shit, like, I don't want this shit, f'all because, like, just keep learning about wooos and niggas, like, family members and my niggas, all that shit. That's shit.
Starting point is 00:10:38 I try to get niggis to a bigger life, better life. Not that. No. Not, man. Yo, and, like, you, like, lost your dad at, like, nine years old, right? Type shit, yeah. Yo, so, like, wait, and the cops Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Like, what happened there? Some bullshit, bro. The cops was wilder, bro. Just, nah, I ain't even gonna say that. It's just decisions that, nigga, you were. Yeah. Like, you feel me? Just don't do drugs, and shit.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Mm-hmm. That's all I just say, the kids, all that shit, you feel me? Yeah. And what do you still remember about your dad? Shit, I remember everything, like, like, named after them type shit. Mm. So, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:11:19 What kind of person was it? He was like, bro, best person, like, best father, you guys, man. Yeah. Had the biggest smile, never, you feel me. Negative shit, like, always positive. Yeah. I don't know. In fact.
Starting point is 00:11:37 So I never know. It's gonna know what niggas, you, for me. Life is short. Just happening, bro, life is sure. Yeah, man. Yeah, right? So, like, after and, like, he, like, passed, though. Like, how did that change it?
Starting point is 00:11:48 Shit, I see. That shit just made me tough. Like, that shit happened. My grandmother passed. That shit, that's shit, kind of started getting a little normal type of shit. You're piling on? Yeah, like, should just start, you know. Your dad, though, was your first, like, major deaf?
Starting point is 00:12:07 Yeah. Damn, man. Now, after, and he passed away, though, like, is that, like, sparked you to actually, like, start, I guess, exploring, and, you know, like, this rap shit? No, not really. Not really. I was, like, I was already, like, type of exploring. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:24 You feel me? I really just took it all away. Yeah, man. Yo, so what's the first, I guess, like, song that you dropped that, like, got some buzz in your city? It was the first song I dropped. My brother Ducise, that shit was called On the B. Like, really been up every since there because I just went hard. Like, that shit feels like that shit was going up.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Like, it's getting more views than niggies that was already right. rapping in the city type of shit. It's my first song. First song. It's up. Like, we started going crazy out that I shit. I don't. Get a later, fuck that I need.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Yo, how that happened? Because there's niggas who've been rapping since 1995 and... Like on, bro. And they ain't crack a thousand views yet, bro. You feel me? So, like, how did you, like, start rapping, I guess, at, what, 13, 14 years old? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:15 And got lit so fast. Like, what's the process to it? Like, how do people get it? No, I think it's just because... Like, I don't know because I really honestly don't know. Niggas just gotta be hard, but I can't even say that because like, some of these New York niggas ain't even hard. That shit eyes, but they just be going up off that shit.
Starting point is 00:13:31 I don't know because, like, really don't know. But I think it's just the young niggins shit. Like they see that niggas young. Like that shit. The way this generation is now, that's what they're going to blow up, bro. Of course. Honestly. Now, right, where you say, like, say some of these, like,
Starting point is 00:13:50 New York niggas be asked, because I can name a few, you know what? I can name a feel like, feel me? But who's the nice New York niggas from your end? You said the nice new york niggas from my, what do you mean? What do you think is nice? I don't really be listening to that shit for me. Nah? Nah, like all the screaming and shit.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Like, I don't know fuck with that shit. I fuck what. Niggas are you from me. I make music. Yeah. I don't know. Fuck my son. Do the little shit.
Starting point is 00:14:25 I mean, the size, baby, I fuck with myself. Do the little shit. You're hard. Yeah. For the shit. I only listen to that New York shit,
Starting point is 00:14:32 though. I can't, though. Not. Too much yelling for me. Yo, but, but the New York niggas like might say,
Starting point is 00:14:39 yo, like, bandman, real and you, like, kind of like, I guess, like,
Starting point is 00:14:44 the drill shit, it's, quote-un-un-quote, like, their shit, right? Yeah, no, that's cat.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Okay, speak on it, man. Nigs been doing, Just, like, bro, we look, like, drill, we look not create drill, bro. Like, what the fuck, bro? Like, shit, you do drill music, bro. That's why they, every city is in, bro,
Starting point is 00:15:02 the niggas just change the name, bro, the city name, bro. Yeah. They didn't create that shit, bro. Okay. Definitely heard that shit before these goofies, man. A word. So, like, have you gotten, like, backlash, though, from, like, have you, like, heard the chatter, though, from New York niggas, you know, like, you know.
Starting point is 00:15:19 No. Like, if niggas gonna say something, niggas, definitely not gonna say it to you. Like, niggas, bro. Like, yeah. Damn. No backlash from nobody. Bro, bro, listen, yo.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Talk that shit, right? Because I see, like, a lot of folks, right? Come on here and say, man, listen, man, we, you know, you know, like, we were influenced by the Bronx and Brooklyn drill. You feel me right? But, like, you're saying, listen up, man. Like, that's our shit? No, I ain't saying that's our shit.
Starting point is 00:15:48 I'm just saying, like, they didn't create. Like, they didn't create that shit, bro. Like, everybody do that shit, bro. Everybody do that shit, bro. Chicago, right? Yeah. Probably, like, Chicago, everybody, bro. Everybody do drill, well.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Yeah, of course. What the fuck? Who do you think they got the best, like, drill music? Um, honestly. I fuck with Jersey drill the boots. I ain't gonna wild. Yeah. Niggas be talking.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Niggas just never gave nobody a chance from Jersey. Like, I see the comments. Like, as I started to even go up with this shit, niggas just talking about OE from Jersey. Nigs not giving them a chance. Just be a little shit like that. That's how I know. Like, they don't even tone into this shit, though.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Yeah. You don't listen to this shit. Niggas from Jersey really be talking, bro. Definitely, right? Nah, like, because there's, you know, like, there's definitely like a few, right? But I'm not gonna name who I think is hard for Jersey drill, right? Because it may be some of the ops, right? But, nah, not, right.
Starting point is 00:16:47 But from like your person, By your perspective, though, man. Give me the top three Jersey drill. Top three? Yeah. Side myself. Yeah. Uh, top three, damn.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Fuck with it. My son, my son, my son, my son's no wordy either. It's just, my son, my son, fuck with this, nigga, guy gang, he hard. Yeah. Shit go out, like, maybe don't listen to him before. He just came up. He hardest out. I don't fuck with the niggie Feezy G.
Starting point is 00:17:26 That's like lyrical while that I fuck with how they break their shit down all that shit. You don't, you feel me? I ain't talking about who pop and I ain't talking about that shit. I'm talking about if I actually fuck with your music type of shit. Yeah, your facts though. Well. Not facts, man. Bro, listen, you know, like, you know, and those are some good choices, right?
Starting point is 00:17:44 Now, when did you, like, link up with, like, band band real? Like, a little bit right out there the first song, I dropped. You hit me like two, three days out of the type of shit. No shit. And like, and, and when he, like, first hit you, was it to, like, to work or was he trying to, like, manage you off the rip? I was trying to manage off the rip, type of. Is he still, though, like, your current manager? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Other manager out there type. Who, who, like, the female, right? No, Jackson. I don't know. No, female. That's the white boy. Hey, that's the way.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Nah, not could. Not, because I've never, only one, one, right, right,
Starting point is 00:18:29 right, right, right. Wait, wait, right, so, so you, a band in real
Starting point is 00:18:35 got a, got a manager's situation, so you're not assigned to him. No, it's, bro, I've never seen a rapper
Starting point is 00:18:44 like, managed somebody before. Right? Oh, would you ever manage somebody? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Who? Yeah. Got a couple of homies, that one. You feel me? Yeah. Definitely. That's the neat, shit. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:18:59 Yeah, right? Yeah, right. So, like, who's your, um... I think you talked about this before, man, like, and who's your Chicago influences? I fuck with Pobo G shit. And, fuck with fucking, fucking, on shit a little bit. Vaugh? Yeah, I fuck with your shit, you are.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Yo. Oh. You want, Vine, like... Juice, that shit, too. Word, Jews World. Now, because you did say, though, that, like, don't call me a drill rapper, I'm way diverse, right? Yeah, I'm supposed to that way.
Starting point is 00:19:34 So, like, would you like, yeah, yeah, that I was expecting, like, Polo G, Vaughn, right? But Juke's World is, like, a different genre, right? Yeah, I listen. I don't really just listen to straight drill, but, like, mostly I ain't going to lie to be straight drill. Just because I don't know. I could definitely listen to other shit.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Like that drill shit all day get annoying, bro. You gotta switch it up, bro. It's just like rapping this shit. We want to just rap about drill all day, bro. Now, facts, right? No. Do you like playing on dropping, like, you know, something different? Yeah, no, definitely.
Starting point is 00:20:08 When? You're gonna speak on that little soon. Yo, wait, though. What kind of like, oh, okay, so like, what type of genre then would you, like, transition into? Like some, like, some, like, some... Like rock star shit? I'm gonna just really like experiment with this shit.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Like the I want to kill my mom. Gonna kill my dad. I'm gonna like that. If I see you at in or TikTok doing that man, I'm like, shit. Barshall, he's feeling like shit. Hey, listen man, you know what that's different, man. Right? But I, so maybe not the extreme like I want to kill my, but like what?
Starting point is 00:20:50 Like what, like more like melodic, more like singing shit or what? Yeah, I probably transformed to some melodic singing and shit. But like I wanna do other shit too, like, you know what I'm gonna'all. It's hell of different type of music, niggas can trial. I never know what you would be hard at, bro. Yo, do you, like, here, right, do you like feel like the artists and who just do, like, strictly drill, like, put themselves in a box? Yeah. Because I feel like, that's when niggas just start, like, just start going down, like, shit.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Like, shit just don't start, just don't keep going up, feel. Yeah. Like, first off, drill, all I should sign the same in the first place. You got to try to make your shit stand out like shit. And it's like, you're just still making the same shit. Your shit going to start sounding repeating. Like, biked about it. It's shit going to start sounding the same time.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Well, I just switched it up some way and come back to the drill. Yeah. You feel me? Sound a little new thing. Nah, yo, facts, right? And, like, speaking of sounding like the same, right? Right. And here's when I knew, like, you was different, right?
Starting point is 00:21:53 So, I, like, it was like, I think it's like, oh, my God, like, a morphed soul, like, back, right? I was watching, like, a bunch of, and on the radar freestyle. Right? I'm tomorrow back to back to back, right? And all them niggas, like sound the same, right? And then, bro, I seen your shit. Dog. Wow.
Starting point is 00:22:17 That shit went up, though. And that shit went stupid. Now, there was a bunch of comments of folks saying, yo, this is the best they've ever had. Oh, like, you'd be sounding ashamed, bro. Like, damn, all these niggas sound like saying. Screaming on the track and yell each other dead, niggas, bro. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:39 It's just ass, bro. Niggas got to do something. It's something make that shit sound better, bro. And that's just how, you feel me? Yeah. Niggas just, they would have go up with this shit. Niggas not just, come okay. Definitely, man.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Now, like, I see it, man. You said in online IG Live, man, bro. I'm done dropping snippets because you whole ass niggas because you ho-ass niggas keep leaking my shit. Yeah, no, bro. It ain't even drop this nitty. It's sending the music out all that shit. I was done with all that shit, but, like,
Starting point is 00:23:12 after that, I didn't send no music out for a for a little bit. None of that shit. Who leaking your shit? They'd be the homies cuz, they're all bullshit. Haight-n't ass niggas, man. Nah, it ain't hate, they ain't hate you heard. It'd just be like, they'd just be like flopping, like, they'd be sending that shit to the wrong niggas. Y'all think ain't going to send that shit out.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Niggas gonna send that shit out. So I just don't send that shit to nobody. They're gonna sell your shit too, you feel me? Yeah, I ain't fucking with them. Now, that's not, bro. Like, that's crazy. Wait, when was like your last, I leaked it? Uh, probably, I ain't ain't ain't gonna shut that.
Starting point is 00:23:46 shit out. Nah? Because, nah, that's just doing. It's still my only shit. Wow. So, yeah, all right. You feel like, don't go looking for that shit too. You feel me, man?
Starting point is 00:23:56 Yo, man. So you're 15, you are lit as a motherfucker, bro, right? Yeah. Like, one, how's your life different now, man, right? Like, is your mom taking care of? Like, you're good now, you feel like? Like, like... Man, shit.
Starting point is 00:24:12 A lot of shit just changed. That shit is going to, everything will gradually come. gradually come. Yeah. But, definitely, she's definitely getting better. How do you like... How do you like... Take care less than like shit.
Starting point is 00:24:24 The effects. No, right, but like, how do you adapt to, like, for example, right? Because you like, you seem like, mad low key, you feel me? But now, like, everybody and know who you are, right? And how do you adapt to, you know, like the newfound attention, the fame, and the eyeballs now just being on you, bro? I'm saying. Like, shit, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Just go with this shit, but I don't know. Whatever, just go with this, I just go with this, I just go with this, so, like, I fuck with this shit, so it was like, I got a love for the music shit, so I already kind knew all this shit was coming, so it was just like, I just sat back and kind of, like, watched other niggas career, seeing them going up and shit, so, yeah. To do the shit, God, I don't like, you know. How do you filter out, though, the groupies, man? You feel I mean?
Starting point is 00:25:14 Like, the holes, like, who, who, who? Who ate on shit? Huh. That's shit easy, bro. You can easily take somebody out and tell me she, I'm fucking with you. Yeah. That's shit. Like, it just depends on the day.
Starting point is 00:25:27 You want to fuck that bitch. Go ahead, dude. I see to her? Like, I don't know. You don't got to cuff that bitch, nigger. Are you cuffed? I don't know. Nah?
Starting point is 00:25:39 I don't know. Why not? Because all these bitches is fucking. I would say this shit. I would say this shit. All these bitches is fucking, bro. And they do a lot of dudes. Lying the captain.
Starting point is 00:25:51 All right. His bitch is everything, though. Would you be going for like an industry bitch, though, or like a low-key, you know, like somewhere in Jersey, maybe Patterson, maybe? Nobody in Jersey. Nobody in Jersey? I just look it out that shit. I want to explore more shit.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Caliphany feet knows here, too, though. You feel me? No. But, bro, but Caliphatee must be choosing them. Bro, brus, bro, they treacheres out here, though. They're, they cheat in. Nah, bro, that shit everywhere, but I don't know. I just don't fuck with Jersey at all with that shit
Starting point is 00:26:27 as far as that relationship shit. Nah, you bitchy, it's crazy. Yo, now, right? And you got a bag now, man, right? Yeah. What was your first big purchase? Can't even drive yet, right? Nah, hell no.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Nah, damn. Nah, damn. When I drive, bro, I'm gonna get some shit, bro. What? Abans? A land ball? Big body? I ain't gonna go too crazy, bro.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Yeah. What's your first, like, big purchase, though, so far? Clothes and shit? Yeah, I'm gonna go crazy, all that shit. Man, bro, bro, like, that's crazy, right? Like, because, bro, like, is the bread coming in now, like, tougher the man? It's, like, for example, right? You got stacked that shit, bro.
Starting point is 00:27:29 I've realized, bro, I started running through a lot of money, bro. Just bullshit. Family and friends? It wasn't even not, I like just bullshit, like just hell of bullshit, like, a whole lot of weed, just whole lot of bullshit, like, just doing dumb, like, just doing stupid shit. Because, like, that shit just keep coming out. I just, I don't know, I barely spend that shit, that's not, I just start to stack that shit. Yeah, right, like, for example, man, right?
Starting point is 00:27:56 So I guess I'm kind of like, for example, right? So what I got, like, put on quote on quote, on, my family and friends was reaching out with their hands are like a motherfucker, but, you feel me? Hell yeah, boom. Everyday acts for some shit. Hell yeah,
Starting point is 00:28:10 or... That shit going up, bro. That shit be blowing my shit, but, like, you just got no I managed with that shit, but...
Starting point is 00:28:17 How you say no, though? Easy, bro. Just no? Don't respond to anything, but... Shit, easy, bro. You don't give them no response at all.
Starting point is 00:28:26 You're just saying... Yeah, shit just, just keep going to know. Yeah. It's just not going to respond to you, but... Yeah. Just keep asking. Not going to say anything.
Starting point is 00:28:36 I don't... Nah, bro. Yo, bro, right? Yo, look, like, that's a cold game, right? But... If I know you, you feel me? Like, of course, I hold niggas down, you, well, of course, you were.
Starting point is 00:28:50 But, like, when that shit just, like, when that shit, then it's just... The irets, the old shit, though? Like, then it's just nonsense. Like, what the fuck? Like, what you think? Like, what the fuck? Come on, okay.
Starting point is 00:29:00 You lost, like, friends yet, though? Nah. The same? The same? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yo,
Starting point is 00:29:08 the question, right? Right? So, bro, like, I still can't even, like,
Starting point is 00:29:14 process how young you are, right? But, like, being 15, right? Now, for example,
Starting point is 00:29:19 right, especially being, like, in hip hop, I think a big mistake that Lil Yadi and them made, like,
Starting point is 00:29:25 Matt early on, right, was like, they kind of said, like, yo, I don't fuck with that
Starting point is 00:29:30 Tupacacac of Biggie shit, you feel me, right? And then they kind of, like, ice themselves from, you know, like, you know, like older hip hop, right? So are you, like, tapped into the history of hip hop, like the biggies, the pox, the
Starting point is 00:29:47 Al-Coujeet? I don't believe, you from me, like, listen to that shit, but, like, I could, you for me. It ain't really, it ain't, it ain't that bad. Yeah. Who's your top-five goal, then? I'm going to give you minds first. So, look, Drake. Drake.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Drake Drake? Drake, you feel me? That's it. Fuck out of it. Why? You talk about Drake.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Bro, he's hard. There's no way he's like Top 5, but all time, bro. Yeah. Five, bro. All time. Five, bro.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Who's your all time five? Oh. Shit. I don't really listen to that. I hold the music like that. Oh, no, no. New niggas, too. You feel like?
Starting point is 00:30:34 I don't know what. Dirk. Von. No, bro. But I was like, well, telling you, because I really don't listen to music outside of my city for us. Oh, damn, for real. Like, I listen to that shit, but, like, not really to really be drinking niggas.
Starting point is 00:30:58 It's really, like, honestly, I really don't listen to that. Yeah. Yo, being a dude from the city, though, right? Yo, I see now, now, like, we would try not to give light or say names, but I seem to do, like, and remix your song. Why dissey? Oh, yeah. Yo, when you've seen that, but what was your, like, response? He's a goofy, bro.
Starting point is 00:31:24 He's a fan. He's a goofy. Like, straight goofy, bro. Like, straight goofy, bro. Yeah, what's the issue? Like... Like... Like, come on, Speedy.
Starting point is 00:31:36 I can say a name. I ain't any of your rhyme name, but come on, Speedy. Yeah. We're like, bitch, bro. That's crazy, man. Like, when you guys, like... You guys, like, I guess, like, not getting along before the rap shit or, like, after the rap shit, he struck Fouchase.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Bro. Nigger was a fucking deadcriter, bro. Yeah. Tell me, like, niggie used to be with niggas, bro. All this shit. He was your man's before? Oh, yes, bro. Used to be with shit.
Starting point is 00:32:06 I don't even, bro. He just start fucking with, like, you feel me? Just start fucking with that size. Or, my niggas don't fuck with the niggas. You fuck with the niggas shit is. Shit, all went bad. She wasn't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:19 You know what I mean? Just like, I ain't never really talked to bro or say it was, you feel me? Start going back and forth a lot, bro. It just was all homie. You don't fuck with them. Fuck me. And then like shit went bad, right? Mm.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Yo, the question though, man, like, so, bro, like, I've mentioned two, right? One of, like, your songs made, something right? You know. about like how dudes were consistently just dissing one of your homies, right? Now, is there ever going to be like a resolve for that? Meaning, like, for example, right? Like, in both sides, done diss, dead homies right and left, right?
Starting point is 00:33:03 Yeah. Like, what's going to, like, solve that, right? Like, for example, like, in both sides' sides coming together, sitting, just, you know, just squash it. Like, how... It's for life with it. Now, listen, right? So what if, right, look, so what if, let's say, like, a big label come and say, listen,
Starting point is 00:33:29 I got $3 million if you do a song with dumb niggas? Damn, bro. Listen, man, y'all shit out of luck, bro. You feel what I mean? He never gave you all no type of, you know, look, no type of static? Nah, no, bro, listen, not. That's real.
Starting point is 00:33:49 You're actually, like, are standing in principles, you feel me? Shit, bro. There's too much shit, you know? Yeah. I'm sorry. Ain't no money gonna make me go fuck with the next, bro. There's nothing that can meet me to go fuck with me. That's a fuck the nigs.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Bro. Listen, man, facts, man. Now, like, who's your dream feature, man? Green feature, Blondea, D. I need to say Bobo J on that one, well. Yo. Fuck on me, you diggest, man.
Starting point is 00:34:38 I really fuck with a, listen to it. Yeah. Now, people say, though, that you give them heavy PoloG vibes. Yeah, I don't know why. I was just bribing like myself. Yeah. Yeah, right, because people... I don't even see that shit.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Honestly, bro, I'll be hearing, like, well, I literally, I don't know because I really don't see that shit at all. No. I see what they're trying to say, like, the wildness and he was telling you type of shit. Yeah. I still don't see that shit, no. Yeah, right? I wouldn't see, like, Polo G, but you definitely, like... remind me of a Chicago drill artist, right?
Starting point is 00:35:14 Here's why, right? Because it's like, and those niggas in 2012, like they were authentically, like they were authentic and genuine, right? And like you knew that those little niggas was really getting, you know, like busy, feel me? I feel like you? I feel like you.
Starting point is 00:35:28 I feel like you is probably one of like the only like newer guys, right, that we say, aye, for me and bro, like, and he looks like there's no cap in this rap, you feel I'm like? And he looks like he's really about. it, right? I'll post the less say, like, the new niggas, you feel what I'm, because, you know, I
Starting point is 00:35:45 ain't trying to name any, right? But, you know, but there's a bunch of, let's say, like, the new, you know, like, there's a, there's a bunch of New York Cats where it's kind of like, I don't know, you feel me, right? Because I heard, like, some folks is actually, like, from, like, upstate in Harlem, their rich, right? But. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:03 I don't know, cuz. Niggas don't even be from the hood just coming out. Yeah. I don't know. Man, yo Shit makes you, though. Niggas just see the money in this shit for it.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Yeah. But question though, man. So, where do you see your, like, hair, right? So in, in five years, right?
Starting point is 00:36:25 If somebody comes and show you a big crystal ball where it's showing you your career, who would you have to see for it to be a success? Like, like,
Starting point is 00:36:38 a platinum. a billion dollars, like, where do you want to be in five years for it to be a success? Five years. Ain't allowed for this shit to be a success, bro. I gotta have, like, gotta be up, like, in a whole different level, though.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Like, a whole different level. Like, all my niggas are, like, family good, 100%. Like, yeah. Gotta be five years, though. We gotta. So, what's that? Bro, listen. Bro, listen.
Starting point is 00:37:11 I definitely see it. You feel me? No, I can see that shit, too. I just know what's gonna happen. I ain't really tripping about what. Not happening. I'm just, I keep going hard at this. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Yo, bro, what's next, man? My job is mixed teet. What's the card? Shit called my turn. Okay, my turn? Yeah, type of shit. Yeah, that shit about the drop. Major features on it?
Starting point is 00:37:33 No, I really got, I got DG on that shit. Oh, don't know. I got on. He rules. You from Jersey. I got a little round that shit. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Okay. Okay. And how many songs on it? I was about 12 songs. Oh, shit. Wait. As a mix team? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Like, the different album, right? Like 12 songs? Nah. Kind of, man. All right, so like, and death drop it and on the 23rd, right? Yeah. Got any, like, tours coming up, shows, festivals, or? Like, yeah, shit coming on, I'm showing all your...
Starting point is 00:38:17 Yeah, man. Bro, man, bro, listen, I've had you here now for damn near and a fucking hour, man, but, bro, listen, man, we appreciate you, bro. I personally believe that you're about to be big, you feel me? No, that's the fact. Right? Straight facts, but... But, listen, but when you get big, man, you got to come back and fuck with me, though, man.
Starting point is 00:38:37 That's true. Right? Right? Yeah, from me apart, too. Man. with this shit out. Man, listen, folks,
Starting point is 00:38:43 no jump for coolest podcast in the world, man. I appreciate you, man. Appreciate you, man. Follow the bro. Man, check out his...
Starting point is 00:38:50 Sorry, the 23rd. 23rd, man. My turn is dropping, man, fuck with him, man, all right? Bro. Peace.

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