No Jumper - BFB Da Packman On Being The First Mailman To Blow Up Rapping & More

Episode Date: August 14, 2020

BFB Da Packman sits down with Adam to talk about his career, Drake, being blocked by Meek Mill, Mike Tyson, Kanye, Kodak Black, Boosie vs Webbie, being a mailman, Ian Connor, Jadakiss, Joe Exotic, compares Trump to Tekashi and more! ----- FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 FOLLOW OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/529mn7of2HBKdLfrAMUzcK?si=rWVBWCuWSXeh0TFYb2P-dQ CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/No-Jumper-198283650194402/ http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 and adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper. Coolest podcast on the world today. We're in here with the one and only. BFB to Pac-Man. Hey! Yes, Lord. How you feeling? Skinny. Skinny. Yes, Lord.

That's the power of mind control right there. You just believe, believe, believe. Yeah. That's how I got here. By being fat or just by believing? Believing. Speaking into existence. Do you, have you ever put any kind of like concerted effort into losing weight or is that not really even? something you're thinking about. I lost, I lost, I mean, I was 400 pounds. Really? I was 400.

What are you right now? I'm probably like 360. Okay. So the lowest I got down to was like $2.90, I think. And if you go look on Instagram right now, it's a picture, right? With the polka dot shirt on me sitting on the couch. That was when I was fucking all them holes, getting all them STDs.

Oh, so you got sexy for a little bit? Yeah, I was wild. And what happened? The rapper cloud caught up with you and you just decided to gain 70 back real quick? I had gotten a relationship. Oh, that would do it. Yeah, I had gotten a relationship, start eating sweets. I still don't eat like meat, though.

Like, I still don't eat, like, I'm a pescatarian. I don't eat like beef, chicken, pork, turkey. Just fish. Just fish. Fish and shrimp and calamari. Anything that comes out of the water, I'm fucking with that. Right. Yeah.

But when you lost all the weight, what were you doing? You're in the gym? him or just jogging jogging bro i swear to jesus christ my niggia you jog for like four five months straight i'm talking about jog running hard so you can't breathe i used to be in that bitch running to like i'm about to die right i used to get off the month i used to get off the um the uh i used to get off the the treadmill had to the like i couldn't even breathe i was just in that going hard running fast running going crazy and next thing i know i looked up i was thin yeah but But then I got in a relationship, start going to cheese cake factory, fucking eating land down.

Were you getting vagina in your life before you lost the weight? Or was it like you got hot and then? Bro, I always got the coochie. Right. Always. I ain't one of them fat niggas that just, you know, you know the typical fat nigga. But you got the gift to gab. Of course.

That's what it really matters at the end of the day. I'm really out here blessed, man. I'll take a good personality over like 2% body fat any day in terms of my like NBA team of pussy getters. Like if I were to be putting together a team of guys who could go get some ass for me. Yeah. It doesn't really make any sense. But plus I'm showing up with, you know, I'm a fat nigga. So I got to show up with shit other niggas ain't showing up with.

Right. I mean. Like what? Like sauce, you know, good convoy. You know what I mean? Showing a bitch that she really means something. Even if she might not really mean none. No, I ain't rubbing no feet and I ain't licking no feet and I ain't sucking no toes

And I ain't eating no bitch booty unless you baby moms You know I mean that's interesting I'm freaky but I ain't that freaky See I remember I interviewed ugly god back in the day and he had all these songs He's all talking like eating ass and stuff and then he realized that we really be an ass and he was like horrified He couldn't believe that that's something that we actually It's like it's like you got to it's like like that's the eating ass is like the extreme freak you got to bring the extreme freak out. That's, you know, you don't lick ass. You don't just think about it like, oh yeah, I'm about to lick this bitch ass. It's in a moment. You just down there and you feel me, you're

just like, damn, her booty hole pretty. Let me go kissing. Right. Because who's the most beautiful woman in the world to you? Well, and black, black, I got to say, I got to say Kayla Nicole. Who's that? That's the, that's the YouTube popular chick. She's real thin, real skinny. That's what you're into? Yeah. Like, if you're going to look at her in her name, Kayla Nicole. Okay. Or I like, or I like, uh, or I like Somerella, you know who she is? That sounds vaguely familiar.

She used to be like, she used to, she was like a funny comedian type chick, but she started singing too. But really, Kayla Nicole, like, I don't know if she got a nigger or not, but I plan on biting that ass. Really? My lack of education is really shown through here that I don't know who you're talking about. Yeah, her name Kail Nicole. But so for you, it's clear cut. You got the black section and then the white section. Yeah, because two different preferences.

I like, I like Margaret Robbie on the white. Who? She cold, nigga. I'm talking about white ice cold. I feel like I'm from another plan. Who the fuck is this person? I'm talking about dry ice cold. Margaret Robbie, nigga.

Okay. Yeah. I have no idea. Anyone I've heard of anyway you think of? I do know who she is. Pull up that screen guy. Pull of the picture. Wolf of Wall Street.

Yeah, she was his wife. I haven't thought about it in a long time. She was his wife in her. Harley Quinn. I'm so bad with movies. Watch a lot of movies, probably, huh? And I don't even, bro, I, I, I never slept with a white woman, but for her, I'm jumping over that gate. Look at this white woman.

I've never seen this bitch in my life. Margo Robbie. Yeah, boy. Somebody was trying to talk to me about the guy from Iron Man and I didn't know who the fuck that was the other day, too, and they were really upset with me. But listen, Kayla Nicole, I'm on your heels like socks. Thanks. So I've seen you actually, like, because, you know, you've kind of talked about, like, fucking with some nasty-looking girls in the past.

But I've seen you on your story, and you were with a pretty attractive-looking Hispanic woman coming from the airport. She wasn't Hispanic, man. She was black. Okay. Yeah. No, no, no. All my chicks. Listen, this is what it is, right?

You cuffing had kids by, like, the nines and the eights and tens, you know. but the ones that you fuck, them gotta be like the fours and fives. Right. Yeah, because ain't no bitch gonna fuck you like an ugly bitch. I'm trying to tell you. But is it really worth it if they're just disgusting?

Yes, what you mean. You can barely look at them. No, that's like a two. I'm talking about fours and fives. You know what I mean? Okay. Yeah, like, like my nigga, like your girl, like, I'm trying to tell you, bro.

I don't know about your girl, but most most of the bad chicks right they don't they're gonna give you the lazy dick sucks you know like like like like kind of like black china right and what she said when she said it she was like because i think she said that in a breakfast club interview she like because i don't suck you know what i mean i feel like her stock is kind of low right now she should be sucking dick like she needs to earn her spot in the game right but i'm saying though that that that that's cool that's your preference but i'm saying though because she she she bossed up she fully bossed up out here.

She, you know, she earned her keep. You know, Black China was cold. Right. And then she had some cheese. So she felt like she don't got it. You know,

she's going to give you that lazy dick suck. Now, you get a bitch about, you know, right on a four five, Richter scale. Right. She's going to stick this whole bottle down her throat.

She's going to go crazy. You know what's the weird thing that's happened, though, is that all the hot girls who are willing to be naked on the internet have mad money now because they all got the only fans. They all make them 40,

50 plus thousand a month and shit. Yeah. The game has changed. The game has changed. They don't even have to strip. You've got a couple hundred thousand followers. You can be making more from OnlyFans than you've been making from pretty much anything else you could possibly be doing.

Yeah. The game has changed. The game has changed, Adam. Have you ever fucked a woman on camera, like, for the public? Like, you ever just drop any? Yeah, but I don't, I don't do that, man. You're not volunteering dick for OnlyFans? If your girl had Onlyfans, you wouldn't volunteer some dick for?

Man, listen. I got six inches, not eight. I can't be out here showboating like that. That's fair that you know that about yourself. Yeah, I can't just be out here. You know, I got to take some, you know, some my hands, my pills get about two more inches and now I'll be out here slinking.

Yeah. That's a good idea. You got the surgery. No, no, no. They go in there and they take the inside part of your penis that's on the inside and they pull it out of your body so you get like an extra inch and a half, I heard. I heard.

He'd know too much about that. I didn't do it. He got that dick surgery. You were Brian. Pumper fan? Who? Brian Pumper? Never mind.

Is that the Black, is that the Black Bull? No, I like, no, I like, uh, Wesley Pipes. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I like him. He'd be like, yeah, suck that dick. You know, I like that, yeah, talk that shit. Yeah, I like that. That's how I be doing. I'll be in there talking just like that.

Right. Yeah, suck that motherfucker. Spit on it. Spit one more time. Oh, yeah. I don't think you should. Chicks like when you guide him like that, though. You shouldn't let the small dick stop you from.

No, no, no. No, no, six inches is not small. It's just not eight. You shouldn't let the average size cock derail your plans. You could have the only fans, man. No, I don't, but you know what? No, I don't want the only fans, bro, because I fuck with it. I don't think that's, I, the sixth inch eight and shit, that's a joke.

But all jokes aside, bro, I just don't think that's gangster. Like, I mean, if my chick wanted to do it, then I do it. But as far as like, as far as like the, you know, making like a only fans and you know, putting yourself out there as a sexual being. Or not even, not even, not even, because you know, like, once you become a star, like, I came in this game to play it, not play myself, you know what I mean? So it's like, OnlyFans comes out, that mean, no McDonald ads, no, Sprite ads, no, you know. Some might say that the HIV positive shirt would do that on its own.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, McDonald's might be down. No, they don't. I'm trying to tell you. Listen, I'm about to tell you why. I'm not to tell you what, even though I can't, I'm going to wait. I'm awake because I'm doing that for a reason. It's not like a negative reason or it's not like for attention. It's a real heart life reason that I'm like that, man, big HIV, man.

You feel it me? One day I'm going to tell it. But it ain't just trying to get attention and nothing like that. It ain't never on that. It ain't never on no clout. And just remember this interview. when I wear that sweater and when I say

HIV this HIV that you see how people try to drag me you see how people oh my God he is like treat me like I'm nothing treat me like I don't exist well it is kind of confusing especially when you say that you don't have AIDS

like if you saw a woman and she was wearing this I don't have it well I mean you just haven't really said it yourself exactly right so what I'm saying is whether if I do or if I don't have it Why are y'all looking down upon me? Because I have that I'm portraying that I that I'm wearing a shirt that I'm saying anything about HIV positive.

And that shows you how the world looks at people that's HIV positive. Now just imagine if it was a law that you had to walk around with HIV positive. They'd be in their own section. People wouldn't even go towards them. They'd treat them like they got a, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, like they're a zombie or something like they scared to even touch them right but you know be in the same room with them like if you have AIDS and you don't tell the people that you're having sex with then you could be charged with a crime yeah but I'm just talking about I ain't the chicks that I'm having

sex I'm only having sex with one chick I'm talking about like the world the world that's on social media in my comments I'm talking about them right not for I'm talking about people who I walk past every day you know I mean like that do you think is if a person had HIV and AIDS and he or she know, you think they'd treat them the same? Well, I'd probably treat them like they have AIDS, which is like they would understandably not want to have sex with them. No, no, no, we ain't talking about sex. We, we ain't talking about sex. We're talking about just normal things.

There's people on there that I would never have sex with. I talk about, oh my God, like, what is he doing? Like, that is a disgrace. Like, it's a disgrace. It's people out here really with HIV and AIDS. That's how you would treat somebody if you know that they had it? I think the thing is that people assume that you're making a joke about it. No.

Because 6-9 also went viral for wearing a shirt that said some HIV-age shit back in the day. And that was him basically just trolling and trying to be offensive to get cloud, I believe. Nah, no, no, no, no. That's not what you're about. This ain't that. Okay. This ain't that. This ain't 6-9.

No. Nah, bro. If I, if I want to troll, I would have been trolling. That's what I'm trying to stop right now, the trolling. Let's bring it back to. this real reality shit when i leave here i'm going back to work moving packs literally no for real that's what i that's that's another thing let's stop all this cloud

chasing let's let's just be ourselves bro i never wanted to be nothing but a stand-up solid nigga i wanted to be myself my whole life bro i just wanted to be myself i'm a fat ugly nigger my bitch bad my kids they they're gonna be wealthy you know i mean I'm from Roseline Block. I'm from Flint, Michigan. You feel me? I just started wearing glasses.

You just started. Yeah, like four years ago. I just started wearing glasses like four years ago. You feel me? My pops wasn't there. My stepdad raised me. You feel me? What else you want to know?

I'm me myself. This is 100% me. Let's stop all the clock. Look, look. BFB the Pac-Man is a rapper. Big Baby is the street. Nick. Tyree Thomas is the government.

I am 100% me, man. We ain't doing no clout chasing. Be yourself. Y'all watching this interview. Be yourself, bro. Be 100% yourself, my nigga. Because when I talk to Adam, this is exactly how I talked to everybody on his staff. I came in, hug this staff.

Nicky kissed him on the head. This is me. Be yourself, man. For real. Has this always been you, like, in terms of this energy level that you kind of just sort of come into the conversation with? Yeah, hell yeah. It always been me. I always open. That's why

like me, like even when I was in the streets, I never ran off on no nigga. I never ran off on no plug. When the nigga called me, when I owe the nigga some money, I still answer the phone. I ain't ducking and dodging nothing. This is 100% me. I'm

like this. Axe ain't rare. Oh, they're here with me. We're solid. They met me. We did good business. So these are your homies from back in the day. These aren't like A&R guys. They just met? No, these guys. that I link okay listen I came in Houston right I started over I left all the street shit alone I said

I'm gonna get a job your street history back in Michigan Flint yeah so I just after I got off probation pistol and gun case let's do something different when I came here it's like 2015 16 slept on my mom one one one bare room floor you feel me uh off and on the couch the couch had bed bugs you know let's let's get it we're stressing bed bugs you know what I mean we're trying to get it. You feel me, rent back home, you can go get like a nice house, like a big nice house for like seven, eight hundred a month. A big nice house, four five bedroom. I mean, Houston was more expensive. Man, a one bedroom cost 800. Right. A one bedroom and that's not even a good one. L.A., one one, one is going to be tough to find. Right, but, but that's not even a good one though. No, yeah.

A good luxury one bare room probably costs about $1,300 in Houston. Now, What I'm saying is I came here. My main thing was to rap. So I looked and searched on the internet. I listened to everybody. Mixes. I listen because I know what I'm looking for. I'm not no artist that's just don't know what they're looking for.

I'm watching everybody videos or whatever. I stumbled up on a nigga. I went to Barron Studios. You feel me? I ain't like one dude. had mixed it, but I liked how the other dude had mixed it. But it wasn't, it's a dude named Jason too. Jason at Beren, if you steal there, dog, I love you.

Love how you mixed it. But it wasn't what I was looking for. Stumbed. I forgot how I found A-Red Studios. I found him. Heard his mix. I'm like, damn, this shit sounds good. It sounds good.

I'm like, I'm fucking with this. So I hit him. Recorded something. I'm like, shit, we're going to see how he mixed this. He mixed this song. called Butter, which was on, uh, in a, in a song called Porsche, that, that never was out. So once he makes them, I'm like, oh, yeah, I like him. I like this, nigga.

So, looking for a cameraman. I was working at Kroger or something. I ain't had that much cheese. Uh, uh, uh, I went to this cat. He was like $100, $200 for like a, uh, a promo. That's when I dropped a free smoke. Um, freestyle is on my YouTube channel. Uh-huh.

What happens is, you know, I go to another person, Tisa Korean. You know who he is? Yeah. Crazy, right? Crazy guy. Great dancer. Crazy, right? Amazing dancer.

Way before dip and all it. My favorite song with him is, Kuna Kruble real quick. Now listen. He was the second person in Houston to shoot my video. Oh, he was? Yes. He was shooting videos?

Yes. So you're delivering mail. Tisa Crane's shooting videos. Everybody got two hustles. Lesson learned. Let's. He shoot my video. That's the Ian Connor join.

That's the Ian Connor join. Oh, okay, okay. Ian Conner, we used up in the, uh, Ian Conner, you block me too, Nick. I was spammy of shit. You blocked me. You liked it it. You feel me? You liked it that.

You liked it the video. I respected that, but you had to spam me, bro. I was just trying to get on, my name. I was wondering if he ever reacted to that. Yeah. Because what you were saying, I'm looking at the man in the mirror like Ian Conner or Something you said in the legs. Smoker, sick, take a pick.

Fuck a bitch. I'm kind of something like that. I can't remember. People forget how legendary he was just for some of the selfies. I remember he posted a selfie with like a fine-ass girl laying on the bed in the background. He kept fine-ass holes. He kept him. If you zoomed in, she had nut all over her ass.

And I could not believe he posted that like 2015. He was the ugly nigga with the baddish Jones. You feel? You got to salute the niggas like that. Inspiration. But anyways. So. And then I ran to this because I always like elevator Kevin.

You know he is? Yeah. Brian. So Brian. Yeah. I always liked his videos. When I ran in the old shot you dog, he had that. He was the best videographer in Houston, bro.

And that nigga was only charging $200 for a video. I said, I just hit a lick out here. Oh my God. This nigga charged $2.00 for this shit. Yeah. Then we dropped. motherfucking is a scam. Then we drop snack time. Then we

dropped. We just kept dropping. We just kept dropping. Then he disappeared on me for like a year. Did it? Or two. Not like a year. And then, yeah, so that's how I found these niggas. And these niggas have been with me every since and I got Stay down Productions. You feel, me? He hopped on board.

We 100% like before the fame, like before Joey's out, he was on board to. Stayed on Productions 2.0. I think that's, or stay down productions. You all look at it. It's a big Houston blog. He with me right now, too. I like your, like, your career because you can see the whole thing taking place. Like, you're not, you're not scared to talk about the jobs you've had.

You're not scared to, like, I was going back into your Instagram today, and I was surprised because all of a sudden I realized I'm like, oh, damn, I'm looking at shit that got, like, 50 likes and, like, one comment. Because normally rappers like to delete all that shit and act like they're brand new. I like that you can see the whole process. Vito told me to delete it. Vito like take and Vito, shout out the V-I-T-T-O on Instagram, bro. The first industry, nigga.

He's with Big Shahn and him, Kim. He was the first industry, nigga, that showed me real love, bro. I had about 5,000 followers, bro. That nigga been with me since then. Sweat of God. Showed me look. Like, bro, don't do that. Don't do this.

You feel me? And he still, they still, he's still never trying to offer me a deal with. He's still in right now. I'm a link up with him. Right. He like, bro, deleted some of that stuff off your page. I'm like, no, bro. Like, they got to see this.

Like, they got to see. Like, we living organically, bro. We ain't, we ain't buying no views, bro. We ain't. Only thing we paying for my nigga is promotion. We ain't even paying for coochie. Did you feel like you had any level of heat going on, any upward trajectory before Free Joe Exotic?

Or was Free Joe Exotic where it all really started? No. Because you had like the TJX6 song, like you have a handful of other songs that were doing okay before that. Bro, the first, the first song that went bonkers, bro, was Tamika. Oh, really? Second song that went bonkers, bonkers, bonkers, to go play. Third song went bonkers, bro. Free Joe Exotic.

Mm. But Free Joe Exotic, 10 million views. That's like a whole different level, right? Man, whole different level. And I think, like, and this is how it was. And I think, like, because A Red always told me, like, bro, we need a feature. We need a feature. Because if you go listen to my mixtapes, I only had, you know, I only had, like, sons with me on him.

So he's like, let's get a feature. So the first, the first nigga who ever was to give me a feature, bro, like in-wing pain. Like, he just did it off the love. It was a nigga that ain't F&B loan money, bro. You know what he is? It sounds familiar. Yeah, he's an egg. F&B long money, bro.

You've had songs with them and stuff? Yeah, he was on a T.J song. Yes, yeah, okay. Now I know. F&B long money. He was like the, that nigga had like 60K followers. Right.

I was nothing compared to this nigga. He showed up to the video and everything. He didn't get a dollar. So that was like the first nigga was, was the ever like, show me like major love like on a feature like. Right. And then the T.

We pay him for that. I mean, I pay him for that. How much? Air it out. Yeah. But, yeah. With the check didn't clear?

It was another scam. No, no, no, no. At first, look, though, I swear to God, listen, I'm on some real shit, right? So, A. Rear, like, bro, he caught me like, hey, get TJ on a feature. I'm like, how much he won't? He like, such, such, such. I bet. Send him to cheese.

Bro, I thought this nigga was going to scam me. I'm like, hey, real, this nigga run off my money. We're going to kidnap him. Yeah. I wouldn't pay T.J. Unless you had some kind of assurance that it was going down. No, but it's good though. T.J. Shout out to T.J. Man, T.J. X. Shout out to him for show, for sure.

You should have scammed him. Nah, bro. We do everything. We, no. We ain't never, I ain't never did that in the streets, bro. I ain't going to do it now. Okay. You never robbed somebody? No, fuck no. For what? I was a, I was a profit. No. No. I'm a hustler, bro. I can turn, my nigga, I could turn baloney in a steak. That sounds impossible. It sounds impossible. It sounds impossible.

Why, I can't. I turn, I turn, I turn, I turn, I turn, I turn, I turn Frenchies in the roof Chris last week. What's Frenchies? I'm assuming it's a shitty restaurant. No, it's a Houston restaurant. Shout out to Houston. I love Houston. Shout out to Houston. I turn McDonald's to Ruth Chris. Right. I turn regular water. I turn regular water to alkaline water. It's beautiful when you do it like that. See, normally when they say turn water into wine, it's because like wine is part water, but you can't actually turn bologna into steak. Man, why you can't? I mean, it's just physically...

Bro, you turn, you turn, you turn Adam 22 into no jumper. Why you can't turn baloney into steak? I don't know. I mean, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Let's go in another direction.

So, when did you figure out you wanted to rap? Hot boys. Hot boys. Just had icewear Bezo in here and he said literally the same thing when we started talking about. High boys. Didn't know, man, I was born in 95, bro. So that mean, when they was busing off the roof, I was about five, six.

It's four. So you're 24. 25. 25. Yeah. 12 years under them, man. Yeah. So they was busting off the roof.

I was running around with little gold, aluminum foil, silver, aluminum foil in my mouth. You know what I mean? I wanted to bust downs in my mouth, too. Baby them inspired me. We love Many Fresh, bro. We love, we love BG.

We love Turk. You know what I mean? We love Weisy. We love juvenile. Facts. They inspired us. They inspired me. That was the first niggas I ever seen rapping.

Inspired me. And my cousin named Smoke. He inspired me. He, like, kept it going. So I was in his studio as a young bull. Like, I was dissing my teachers all that. You were making songs dissing your teachers? I made it.

I made a, uh, my first song I ever made is I'm so Flint. It was off that, uh, T-Pan and, and, and DJ Callow, I'm so, ugh. Right. Yeah, I was in elementary, and he just started from there, but I just hopped off in the streets. Then I started back rapping again, like, 2013. Right.

After I got shot, and the police was, like, in front of my crib. Because I seen one of your posts on Instagram when you said, like, I ain't put anything out for three, four years. And then was that, like, you put something out in 2013, and then you took a break for four years? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, most definitely. and linked back up with A. Red in 2017. What was it the men you take a break for that long?

I don't know. I was just like focused on, I was just focused on like, I had caught a case. Right. So what it was, I just hid out. I hid out. Bro, I don't care for some million dollars on the floor. I'm not that nigga that's going to risk my freedom when I'm already tangled up and some more shit. You know why?

A lot of dudes go to prison, bro. Because when they get in. trouble the first time they'd be on probation right you know what happens they mind ain't strong enough to just sit it out and wait to the probation it's closed yeah i don't it could be a million on the floor i'm sitting down until these people till i get off these people leash you're so what were you you just stayed in the crib but what you stayed that's how i got 400 pounds oh yes bro i was staying in the crib drinking lean eating burger king you feel me everything but music but music wasn't really a focus at that time.

Were you recording? Were you working on it at all? Yeah, I was, but I wasn't, I wasn't serious. I was stressing, you feel? I'm going through shit with my, my girl, everything. You know what I mean? Yeah. So it was just a terrible time. But when I got back to, when I moved to Houston, and I was stressing for a while, trying to adapt, because it's like coming from a city that's a 20, 30, 40, 50-mile radius.

You could drive through the city in 10 minutes, bro. you drive on a highway for 20 minutes you're somewhere close to damn near close to Detroit right so it's like coming from that to coming you know starting all over again nothing that's a great feeling right like I remember when I moved to New York after living

in my hometown for like 19 years I was like the best feeling ever I'm from New Hampshire right outside Boston so you know growing up there you're like you're in this little bubble you know a lot of people you walked down the street people recognize you they know you just from being around you You meet a girl at the bar, you figure out that you were in elementary school with her or some shit.

And then, like, you know, I moved to New York and it's like, nobody gives a fuck about you. You have a lot of freedom, a lot of, you can kind of reinvent who you are. It's great feeling. I cared about getting dressed. Not only wear swimming trunks and white teas. I'm about to go to shoot a major video tonight. I'm wearing swimming trunks and white teas. The same thing I got on now.

Probably throw my forces on. You're anti-drip or what? No, this is drip. This is my drip. your drip yeah like I'm more I'm comfortable right now that's how I want to be I want to be comfortable right but not so comfortable to where it's though I feel but I want to be comfortable with my own skin that's what that's what I said in the wrong I want to be comfortable with my own skin right yeah I respect that but there's a lot of people in the

game who like their idea of being dressed up or whatever involves you know spending five grand on outfit and I don't I'm anti that yeah yeah yeah yeah Facts, facts, me too. I just think it's a waste of money. I'd rather put that money in the bank. Buy a house before you buy 50 pairs of Gucci shoes that you're going to wear like four times each, you know? Facts. Or get that money to your little cousin to go buy your hoopty.

You know what I mean? That's what I'm for, man, like family and love. Like, you feel me? Because ain't nobody going to love you like your kids. Respect. So you just started to, uh, they're laughing at you or what? I don't know. I don't get it.

So you really like. Like, let me ask you this. When you first moved to Houston, though, do you believe that you had the vision to become what you were trying to become? Um, I ain't going to sit here like all the other. It's like, I knew I would be this. I knew what I. I just know that I want some and I'm going to make it work. You know what I mean?

Like how, like I want this Drake feature and I want a feature with Calvin Harris. And I want a feature with Diplow. I want a feature with with, with, with, with, what, whatever. Estelle. You're trying to go, EDM. Man, no. I just feel like

they'll bring something out of me that I possibly never seen for myself. I heard slide and I heard the joint with,

wait, I might. I might. I might. Oh, no, that's slide. That slide. Well,

Frank Oshah, Calvin Harris and Migos. Then I heard this John I think it's called Cotter Greens with Drum and Calvin Harris

and School Boy Q and I heard Fills with um what's the white join name? She's like the top cell I don't know if it's Katie No no no it's a It's a white John

bro she just sold like 700K in the first week Taylor Swift Taylor Swift for real and Calvin Harris Bro they music just make you feel good and I want to make something like that instead of what I'm making now. Like, I love to make a song or two like that.

It's just like going out of your. I'm going to still be me, but it's like, bro, I want to make songs like that. I want to make shit that you can play out of wedding and dance too and feel good. And, you know, chill with the white kids. I want to touch everybody. I want to work with them. So, but don't get me wrong. I also want to work with Cardo Got Wings and, you feel me, Kanye West.

And I want to work with Metro Boom and Take Heath, too. but you've been talking to take keef right take bro listen listen to me if you're watching take keef is the realest nigger ever bro really bro he's one of the realest niggas ever i got metro booming on the text too metro booming the one who's telling me like don't sign whatever you do don't sign you gonna love it you're gonna love it here don't sign and i and i still haven't sign but take keith bro he's a real cat like i talked to him we don't talk about no beats we can talk about nothing it's like he's a real big brother and he don't want nothing like he just like yeah just him me up we text we talk it just be like i knew this nigger my whole life it's like he a rare oh or

mook like he just one of them like right he like one of the guys but i ain't never met him real solid cat bro get a nigger shirt off my back and i never met him he cool as hell super solid I mean, he probably fucks with the music. He probably believes in your talent. Yeah. And our first come, bro, we talked for like an hour or two. Like, and I can call him now here and answer. I can text him now and he and text back saying with Metro.

Well, Metro text me here. Oh, two weeks or a week and a half. Hey, don't sign, bro. Hey, what you doing? Like, you know what I mean? Shout out to Metro. Shout out to Take Heath. I'm real solid cats, man.

Yeah, I kind of worry about what might happen in your career if you signed because I don't really feel like I have that much faith that the labels are going to know what to do with you. I feel like you are going to lose your fucking mind being throttled by them because they're going to make you slow the fuck down on your creativity and shit. Right. And I think, and that's what I said. And that's when I talked to the labels.

And I talk, bro, like I said, like I, like, I talked to, like, 12 labels, like 10 labels, something like that, eight labels. And my number one thing is I ask them, bro, you all going to go hard for me like I go hard for myself? You know what I mean? like I'm not no artist that you got a babysit. I'm not no artist. And when I talk to these people, they're like, no, see, when you sign us, you don't have to do that. No, no, no.

Wait, wait, me, that's what you're fucking up at. I'm going to do this regardless. I'm going to be out here doing this footwork. That's what I believe in. That's what we've been doing. That's what we do. We run. I was watching that when I told you about I was in a basement sitting on probation.

I'm watching Nipsey. I'm watching this man. Ain't nobody going to feed us, bro. Ain't nobody coming to save us. Ain't nobody coming to get us out these trenches. We got to run, bro. We got to be on our marathon. I learned that from Nip, bro.

Ain't nobody coming to save us, bro. Right. I was so pissed off when he died, bro. I was mad. I was mad, bro. RIP NIP, yeah. The thing with the label, though, you got to remember is that literally everything

that they say to you means nothing because once you sign the contract, you sign the contract. Right. You know? So everything leading up to that is just formalities. That's just them trying to get you the sign. I watched Jada kids say the same exact shit that you said.

You're like, yeah, they do anything you want them to do. Once you hand over that CD, once you hand over the masters. And those are the corporate labels. I heard shit about, you know, rappers who are like, you know, street level rappers or whatever back in the day, who they would be giving you drugs. They'd be having girls doing all kinds of whatever. And that shit ain't really mental. to last that's just meant to get you a sign yeah get the songs that they won't out you

i like i talk to this one they're like yeah we just want free joe exotic oh you just want free joe exotic oh you just want free joe exotic huh yeah uh okay you ain't getting it motherfucker i own my shit this is a controversial opinion that i'm not sure you're gonna really appreciate talk to me we should not free joe exotic man listen free joe nica free uncle joe okay but i mean i guess i understand that like in the sense like if I had somebody I have a friend who killed somebody I'd still be saying free them but realistically I mean Joe Exotic did try to plot to have her killed and I don't think she killed her husband I think that motherfucker dipped his car was at the airport um do you feel like do you have any particular like fandom of Joe Exotic or was it kind of just

like an ironic fun thing free Uncle Joe man free Joe Exotic, man. We rock what you, Joe. We love you, bro. So you found a gay dude that you can relate to like that? No, I just rocks. Huh? You got a lot of gay friends, or is he like the first one? I got a couple gay homies. I got a gay homie that like trainees or whatever. Do you think a guy could still be considered straight, even if he's had sex with trans women? Bro, no comment, bro.

Too much of them. I don't know. They're trying to duck me in. Whatever them niggas do what they dick, that's them. Right. And why do we need to be straight or buy or gay or whatever? cares right oh whatever again whatever they do with they dick that's them i just know what i do with my dick yeah ladies only yeah straight ladies night down there but ladies night right that's my damn that in the car wash sign yeah yeah ladies night you're feeling for sure uh okay so how are you adapting to being famous as fuck you can't go nowhere you can't go to them all no more.

Who can't? You. You're famous as fun now. I brought to them, nigga. What's up? What's that? Your BFB the Pac-Man.

Bro, what's up? Nicky, give me a hug. Nicky, give me some love. Nicky, don't, bro, don't act like a creep, bro. Come over here and give me some love, nigga so I can go on by my business.

Who would you say that to? Whoever? To anyone. Anyone. Okay. I don't care. You thought I was, I came here and hugged your man's,

Nick. You were hugging everybody. Yeah, I appreciate y'all. Like we're not in the middle of the pandemic. Bro, listen. Some of those guys had COVID a couple months ago. I don't give a damn. You hear me?

I appreciate them, nigga. Right. COVID, HIV, mumps, herpes. What's another? Ebola, bird flu. I appreciate you. He really said Ebola. For real.

Like, for real, bro. No matter. Midget. Have you done that yet? No, I want to hit a little shake. I know the plug. You know the plug? I know this adult star guy who's on his only fans all the time,

smashing different midgets. Bro. He could definitely get you in there. I don't pay for Gucci. It might be free. I don't know. If it's free, I'm fucking, I'm fucking with that. Right.

Yeah. I'm fucking with that. Set that up. Yeah. I can get you in there. I want to fuck a midget. Y'all want to fuck some midgets? If y'all were all fucking a midget, I would want to be there.

I would want to be a fly on the wall. I just want to see it go down. What type of? Cuck-ho, freaking shit is that. Man, see, that's that white people shit I was talking about. That's what I said. I said, white people freaky as hell. Nigger, like, I hate the white people turn.

I said, bro, I apologize. You feel me if that sound racist. But, you know, white people be freaky. So, am I lying? I don't know that we're freakier than white people, on average. No. Yeah, yeah, he even know. Yes, bro.

Like, bro, let me tell you something, bro. I don't know if. this, I don't, I don't know how people would take this, but I can honestly say, like, white people are more open-minded than black people. And sometimes that can hold us back,

like, for real, for real. Opinion. That's a product of our white privilege. That white people are, you know, exist. Many white people exist in a reality in which they don't have to necessarily be afraid of being condemned for their deviant sexual behavior or whatever.

So I feel like, Yeah, but I'm not talking about I ain't talking about just sex, bro I'm talking about with everything Bungy jumping, skydiving. Nigger, who about to go up there and do that? Who about to go snowboarding?

I just noticed, you know how dangerous snowboarding is? Your legs is attached to a board, so if your body fly this way, your legs fly this way, that's shicking. Do you feel me? I did it one time when I was like 12 and never did it again. I was scared shit.

That's dangerous, bro, It's really that. I thought I wanted to do that too until I was a little fat boy. And I plugged and I, you know, strapped them bitches up. And I'm like, my man. Right. This can end very terrible. Right.

Yeah. So it's like, you know, white people, bro, they open-minded is shit, bro. And that's what I'm saying. I never had a white friend. And I don't know why white people never wanted to be my friend, bro. I always wanted the white friend, bro. So there were white people around, but they just didn't really want to be your friend? Yeah, like I always wanted to, like, I run up on a Korean,

or like when I first got to Houston because I was trying to do something different. You feel me? I'm going to college. I wanted Asian friends, Korean friends, Japanese friend. Bro, nobody wanted to be my friend. And I think it's because I'm big and black, bro. I look scary, right?

Were you always the same personality-wise that you are now? And it's like once they met me, like once, okay, like I had these people, right? and they was from the Middle East, right? Uh-huh. And we had a class together. And they'd be talking like in, you know, Arabic. And I'm like, you know, I'm noticing like,

I want somebody talk about you, bro. And then one day I just started talking to them. And we got cool and I used to let them copy off my paper because I ain't never been no dummy, bro. I just want, I just love the streets. I love selling weed, bro. That's why I know weed. I know weed like the back of my hand.

You don't smoke weed? Never smoked. Because you were very interested in smelling my weed when I busted it out, but I didn't think you smoked. I'm a weed tester, bro. Oh, okay. Yeah. So I know good weed when I see it. I know when I smell it.

I know I know weed, bro. So I never smoke, never drink, never pop no pills, and nothing. I just wanted some money. Respect. But back to my story. So what happened was, uh, yeah, I broke it down to me. And it was like, Bro, we thought she was like a girl.

And I'm like, bro, why did you think that, bro? I'm not about to do nothing to you, bro. I'm not about to try to harm you, bro. Because don't, don't ever think that, my nigga. Don't ever think that. Right. And we became best of friends. Are you talking about just some random white guy?

No, these was Arabic. This is an Arabic couple. And the crazy thing in the world was they was first cousins. Whoa. Yeah. It was first cousins, bro. I'm not going to get into that. but in a lot of like insular religious communities, there's a lot of imbreeding, yeah.

Yeah. And I don't judge them or looked them up and down for that state, you know. He said, my uncle know about it and everything. He's like, but I'm disrespecting. I mean, but I don't look at him no different. He found, you know, we fall in love with a chick across the street or a chick we met on Instagram or Twitter or social media or a chick we met at the club. He fell in love with his cousin.

Why should we judge him? Could you do it? Could you fall in love with your cousin? I'm from Flint, Michigan, bro. We was raised in America. That type of shit is not going down like that. Right. Your grandmother or your dad or your mom find out you did some shit like that.

They're going to fuck you up. We was raised to look down upon that. I don't know why. Same. Yeah. Same in New Hampshire. Don't fuck your cousin. It's like number one rule.

Man, that's your blood. You see her every Christmas. But, okay, be fair. Because when I really think about all my cousins, I don't really think any of them were attractive enough that it would have really even crossed my mind anyway. Do you have any cousins that you, like, when you try to pretend you're not their cousin?

I'm fucking the cousin that didn't grow up with me. Like, I found out some cut, like, I found out a chick was my cousin when I was like 21, 22. And I had been one of the fucker since we was in middle school, high school, but I didn't know that I was my cousin. But I still fucking out. Hell yeah, I tear that ass up. Who cares?

Beat her from the back. Beat her down. No cap. It's only weird if you knew them when you were like three. Yeah. Like, Burfing, this is my cousin. We grew up as cousins.

Yeah, that's nasty. Okay, but how about this? How about you? Say you were fucking some girl. You fuck her one time and then she breaks it to you. I'm your sister. Yeah, bro. How would that feel?

That would be so weird because then you'd be looking at her. You could see so much of the genetic similarities in your sister. Whereas a cousin could be very far removed. Yeah, that's, nah. That would break my heart, bro. I wouldn't even feel the same. I feel low down dirty shame. You know what's weird too is, though, on Pornhub,

some of the biggest category is the incest stuff. Yeah. I never watched it, but I... That's weird, right? Yeah, stepmom and sucks, you know, stepson's black cop. Right. Or, you know what I mean?

It would be mainly white people that be doing that shit. And the weird thing about it, though, is that every other fetish on there, for the most part, is real. Like, if you click on the anal part, it's actually people doing anal. If you click on the incest one, it's just people who don't even look alike

pretending to be related to each. Yeah, because that's what people love out here. I think that's weird. Grandma sucks. Grandson's cock. You know, she's freaky shit like, no. I know girls who, that's like their primary thing is that they,

like, that's the number one thing that they're requested to film is to be like the step sister. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's too freaky for my blood. So we finally found it. Yeah. You do threesome and shit? Nah, bro. Hasn't happened?

My girl ain't with none of that shit. You're a rapper now, so it's all good. My girl, but you still got to respect. Listen, bro. At the end of the day, you might rap, you might talk, you might act. But you got to respect these women out here, bro. You got to. You got to, bro.

You got to. You have to, bro. Ain't no if it ends and busts, especially if you got a mama. You ain't going to be out here. Unless a chick disrespects you, he ain't going to be out here just disrespecting her like that. You know what I'm doing. Respect. Are you done with the mail?

No. You're out here. You're out here. You take a couple days off the mail room. You want me call my boss right now? I call it right now. I feel you're going to get fired. Oh, fire.

So you're not worried. I guess when you work for the government, you don't have as many concerns about them caring about what you're doing and your music and stuff. Keep it got on with them. Listen, bro. I just can imagine the post office being kind of picky about their employees. No. Bro, long as you get the mail out, bro, they don't give them the damn. Really?

Get that mail out. Get them parcels and the packages out. Deliver them packages. Do them pickups. Like, I don't know about y'all. Like, tomorrow it's going to be a pickup. Or do y'all drop y'all's off? I don't involve myself in the mail in any way.

You drop them off? All right. Well, if you put in a slip. somebody's a come, somebody come pick them up every day. Okay. So long as you do them pick up, so long as you do, whatever they ask you to do, just do it, bro. Uh-huh. And just like how rap, just like what this, I'm a grinder, bro.

I do everything they ask me to do is like work. Are you going to go pick up some packages? You get $19 a hour. Why wouldn't you go pick up some packages? That's just like going to pick up paper, bro. Right. That's the easiest job for that much pay. Without no high school, I mean, without no high school diploma,

without no uh college degree and I think you can max out at like 30 an hour You make it sound like a dream job bro what but you USPS changed my life They did You know Trump's trying to get them out of here

USPS changed my life I love USPS for life Trump's trying to take them out I ain't got nothing bad to say about Trump man You don't have anything bad to say about Trump You can't think of anything? Trump Trump gonna be Trump man You know what I mean?

Trump is Takashi in a motherfucking presidential office. They're crazy similar. I've always said though, you know? Yeah. They're both just like just fake humans, just fooling the dumbass masses, huh? Yeah, yeah. But I got a question, right? Okay.

Are you one of them sneaky Trump supporters? No. What about my man's on here? Never been a fan. You can check him or any of them? I don't think so, no. But listen, right? If they were Trump supporters, I feel like I would have sniffed it out at this point.

Yeah, in fact. But me, I don't really, I don't really be paying attention to politics like that, real. Like, I really just, because like, like, bro, it is going to be what it is. It's like, okay, vote. Then after we vote, what we're going to do next. Right. That's all it is. And it's like, it's like a fame thing with them.

Like, they say and do anything. Yeah, like they say anything. They lie. They do anything. get to vote state. You know, it's just like a nigga on the street. It's all the same. Like, who can invest, who can, you know what I mean?

That's all it is, bro. And they ain't, they, they ain't changed nothing. The world is going to be the world with or without a fucking president, bro. Well, we're definitely going to have a president. But I'm saying, with or without a president. Right. Right. I mean, I don't think he's done a very good job.

I'm being honest with you. Bro, I don't think no president done it. job right yeah makes sense don't you don't think Obama did an all right job why even bring the Obama shit I mean he's a relatively recent president for eight years before him did he do a good job before him did he do a good job before him did he do a good job I mean they certainly there's a lot of things that could have happened that didn't happen you know I mean even like a president like even Trump you could say well we didn't plunge into to World War III under his guidance.

So at least he didn't totally fuck things up. But I mean, even as president, you're kind of limited in what you can really do, right? I think I ain't even going to lie, bro. I think it's impossible for us to go in World War III at this moment. It does seem pretty unlikely at this point. Yeah, bro.

It ain't about to be no World War III, bro. I don't think it'd ever be no World War III. Yeah, there's probably a lot of people who agree with you. It ain't, it ain't, bro. We got phones. we got people that talk we got it ain't like unorganized it's back in the day

my nigga like right no bro because when countries have problems with each other now they're usually they do economic sanctions on each other so it's like oh it costs more for you to fucking buy I don't know whatever be a Pac Man on iTunes and as much as people

act like they want problem act like they won't work bro don't nobody people want to live peaceful bro they just act and pump fake for attention and clout, bro. That's all it is. What was going on in that phone call with Webby? What the fuck was he saying?

I was getting my haircut earlier. I'm going to be honest. I couldn't really hear it. So I Boussi arguing with Webby, and it made me cry. I guess he felt. I guess he took heed to that and it was like, yeah. Like, that sounds gay and this, this, that. Like, he got the going on for whatever.

But like I said before, bro, I'm going to be real, my nigga. I love Webby. Period. Right. I love Webby, bro. I ain't got nothing bad to say about Webby. We grew up off Webby and Busy. We hated seeing them niggas fall out.

Right. We hate it seeing them niggas do that on the Internet. That really brought tears to my eyes. We love them niggas. Them is Louisiana legends right there. Right. But they clearly don't really get along. And we hate that.

We wish it can be the same. Right. We wish it could be the same, bro. We wish we can get a, we wish we can get a, uh, we wish we can get the trio fan back. R.P. Little fat. You know what I mean?

Boosey and Webby them. Man, Boosey is like, man, I think Boosey like the only rapper, bro. I think Boosie is like the only rapper that can walk through every streets in America and not get touched and get loved. Webby, too. Busy's close to like the press. President of hip-hop.

Bro. And he's not even no major super-label. Label put a hundred million behind him. He sold a billion record. Never. Right. He got the streets.

Boussey got the stres. That boy was platinum in Flint, Michigan. Boosey tell you about Flint, Michigan. Boosey probably got more bookings than Flint, Michigan than the South, bro. Really? No cap. Ain't no, bro. Nigg.

Boosey probably the only motherfucker that could probably come to Flint. and walk around with no security. People love Boosie, bro. Right. Because you came out making songs about Flint. So when you finally made the decision to leave Flint, how hard was that decision? It wasn't hard, bro. I did me.

Yeah. It wasn't hard. I just did me. You knew you needed a fresh start. Yeah. I needed a bigger city. See, when I went, this just like how, like, people that's not from America, look at Americans

you guys are lazy you guys don't know what you have here you get it y'all had this here and y'all are still behind they look down upon us that's how I was looking down upon like a lot of people like from

like from Houston because I always said like dang y'all got this right you got this big city if I grew up here in high school I'd be that nigger a lot of people from Houston would be like you know it ain't really shit going

on here compared to LA. Like, bro, my nigga. I was that nigga in that little city. I believe if I would have came here, man, I would have been, I would have been a milly up. Houston is beautiful, bro. Houston is lit. Houston is lovely.

I just walk outside and I just smell the air. I love Houston, bro. I'm in love with Houston, bro. Beautiful city. But even then, you didn't decide to go and try to collaborate with a bunch of Texas. artists, if anything, you showed love to, like your biggest feature songs are Detroit artists? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You didn't try to tap into that Texas sound?

I don't think, I think, you know, it's crazy. I never thought me and the Texas artist would sound good. But when me and F&B Long, me and he got on the track, it was epic. yeah the barber that i was uh talking about was cut my hair earlier he looked at you on the phone and he said he looks like a fat ass maxo cream yeah everybody everybody everybody says that everybody yeah yeah and i think it's because i'm in houston i think that's what i think i could tap you guys in together that would be a club i'd like to see yeah let's we should make that happen i got maxa korean number you know the d flowers is yeah i did after

F&B long money. No, because I didn't want to burp on the mic. I thought you were like spitting shit up because you had a little snot incident there. No, uh-uh, uh-uh. No, that was for me just wiping my nose. I don't even know where that snout came from. I ain't had no problems. I ain't had no.

My allergies, man, I got terrible allergies and it's coming out to L.A. It's different. It's different. It's been hitting me a little bit, too. Inside of my ears gets itchy. Yeah. And I'm from Michigan, bro. So, like, even being in the South, yeah, bro, be the first four years,

three years I was in the South, bro. It was killing me around. April, March. Oh my God. I couldn't breathe around them time. I stayed in Austin for a winter and had the same exact thing. I started to get weird-ass allergy shit. And I thought I was just sick.

And then I left and it went away immediately. I'm like, oh, fuck. You go back home and it's just like, oh, you good. And you're back home. I'm back to what you used to. But no, I just got terrible allergies. My son like that, too. Terrible.

My mama like that. But on a personal level, like, I haven't no Houston. rapper been to my house instead of D Flowers. Really? De Flowers, we never talked about music. It's kind of like with Tay Keith. We kind of like linked on principles, values, conversing. You're a cool guy. I can imagine myself being friends with you.

Yeah, because I'm 100% me. On and off, like, how I act out there is just how I'm going to be, bro. I couldn't say that about every rapper I interview. There's some significant percentage of people I interview. You know for all when you see one, bro. Realistically, we're probably not going to talk after this. They're just trying to use you. Just like, you know, it's a swap.

It's a mutual beneficial relationship, yeah. Yeah. We make some contact, they get a little promotion. But I fuck with you. Bro, I wasn't going to leave you alone, bro. Yeah. Just like academics, I'm on your ass. Because everybody tapped in, but you, nigga.

You know who I am, nigga. But so he's never responded to you? No. They did post your video on the Instagram account. That's shocking. You didn't pay for that? No, I didn't. It just happened.

Yeah. Because you had a song on the No Jumper Channel. You were basically calling out elevator for not responding to you and say cheese, saying that you were trying to pay them and that it wasn't working. Yeah, like they elevator, bro, they would not respond. I hit, bro, I am, I'm going to get what I want and get what I need. Right. Regardless that I mean, I'm going to find your kids on Facebook.

I'm going to find your kids. Mother. I'm going to find you and get a contact to you. I'm going to find you and get a contact to you. I had Sean Cotton number before Sean Like when we finally linked up and he replied or whatever Like gave me his number I said nigga look at your messages You're like oh bro this wild nigga you've been seeing that nigga

But you know we we just laughed it off whatever Right but no that's like my dog and I think like And I respect Sean because I think like You know y'all bloggers bro so y'all get a million rappers coming at you all the day Trying to use your platform but Like he just just like bro like you a cool like saying like saying i'm just like bro i'm just me like i ain't doing nothing extra right like my nigga let's be clear i don't need nothing from nobody i pay

that's the beauty of it like my nigga i don't i'm not ask you i'm asking can we do business i'll pay whatever you want right and then them niggas like oh no bro you don't got to pay but i'm just saying like i pay like don't worry about or i even if you know even if the business you feel like I'm doing too much or I'm dropping too much to where though you need to you know I need to start back paying again that I pay it's never it's everything I live my life like valet bro everything up front with me bro it's 100% me at all the thing for me is like I could work with like an artist I want to work with or I could if there's an artist I don't want to work with I don't like there's almost like no amount of money that's going to there's no amount of money

that would make me want to interview somebody I didn't want to interview you know know like if somebody like really doesn't have anything going on or I think the music sucks or whatever it's like even if I'm lying to myself and I'm just thinking that maybe this interview would look good or maybe this artist has a future I don't know I just can't really like sometimes that mentality of taking money for content like I still have never got paid to do an interview right and that's what Vlad was saying and that's what Sean Cotton was saying yeah I think Sean Cotton does the thing where he signs artists like he signs artists like real early on to like management type deals and then like helps blow them I

I have my suspicions about some of the artists I've seen on his channel where I think that he has a little relationship going with them. But I don't know. I mean either, bro. I don't even any ask him about this business. And even if I did ask him about his business, I wouldn't even say nothing, bro, because that ain't what you do, you know what? Street code. No, it ain't any no street calls. It's values, bro.

Like, if you tell them, like, Adam, we don't know each other, bro. I don't know your government, my nigga. You could give what. If we, if we politic, you feel, me? if we politic about something it's never going to get out bro I'm not your regular industry cat you trust to me we talk

we talk like men bro we're not women so whatever we speak about whatever we can whatever you feel comfortable tell them you know talking that's what we leave it at in this nigga even if I hate you tomorrow we never gonna speak on that we never gonna speak on what we talked about

because as men bro we don't supposed to do things of that sort you know I mean you gotta have morals bro and that's what it is A lot of these niggas was raised by their grannies. They ain't got no morals. They think like women. That's why they say like a woman can't raise a man.

You believe that? I do. I do. Even though I was raised by a single mother and my step pops, but it's just certain things when you become like a street cat and you realize like Irv Gotti. Like, listen, Irv Gotti, right? By the way, a lot of, like I tell people this all the time. You are artists, bro. Watch interview.

use, bro. Everything I learned, every knowledge I learned. I read Jay Prince's book about distribution fees and fees when you know how they try to get you. I watched and listened. I love for Irv Gotti interview, bro. But he was just saying like when they caught that case, you know, because everybody think like 50 cent like squashed them, but they caught that case and that case really crippled him. And, you know, 50 was on their ass too. So that was like a It was a double landing. Yeah. Nobody could have really withstood that. at that time. Yeah.

So. But you're right because I believe that if you want to do anything, like the thing that led up to me starting my own podcast was basically just me watching hundreds of different podcasts and really paying attention to the rap game for so long that I started to feel like I fully understood it and could have a contribution of making my own content, you know? Yeah. A lot of people want to become rappers and they don't even understand anything about the rap game outside of like, I like Kodak Black and I want to be like Kodak Black, so I'm a rapper now.

Yeah. Like how to conduct their stuff. And it ain't no artist development. Like how I talk in interviews is how I talk like regular. And it's probably really not that good, but I'm me. So fuck, he did it. But anyways, back to what I was saying about the women can't raise a man, you know, because when they got picked up, right?

Irv Gotti Mom was telling them like, just do anything to come home. and his pops wouldn't with that. Right. But that's a mama's love. That's your mama. No, you got to stand there and fight. You feel me? Niggie.

It's crazy that that's how the justice system works is that your decisions are like, stay locked up for X amount of time or put up huge amounts of money or, you know, just give in. Yeah, man, he like, but I didn't do it. though, Ma. He's like, you know what I mean? Like, he stood there and fought. That's what a man's supposed to do. You hanging around with this cat, staying there and fight with him. Don't turn your back on. He don't take no, please don't,

for something, and if you really didn't do it, you know what I mean? Don't settle and try to save your ass. You know what I mean? Sit there and fight. Right. And his pops was like, sit there and fight. You know what I mean? Women can't raise a man because when they get in that, when they get in that predicament, they get soft.

They get weak Nah You gonna make that boy weak like that Nah He made this bed for itself Stand up solid That's why I rock with Kodak Bro, because by any mean

By any mean That little nigga, he's solid He's solid Not to call him no little nigga But He's low Little Kodak He's solid

I could take some more pain That boy solid You heard me How old are you? How old am I? Yeah I'm 25 25

How old is go there I don't know, probably roughly the same, I would guess. Yeah, but look, Kodak, solid cap, for real. And he showed me some love right before he did. What did he say? Kanye retweeted, 2008, bro. Kanye retweeted snack time. Uh-huh.

Kodak Black, I heard snack time because I used to be spamming. And he said, you want some shit patch? He wrote that back. Patch, I saw that and I was confused. Yeah, you want some shit patch. It's like a weird fucking Florida thing. They call people Patch. No.

That's how I know you ain't listen to the music. But what? Snack time. That's what I said. You on some shit, Patch. I got that from a nigga in Philly. That was like a nigga when he was like, hey, Patch, come here. Oh, okay.

Like, Pat, you want some shit. Right. It was in Philly. But I made a song out of it. Because my brand is on some shit. So that kind of stood out to me. Yeah. A little confusing.

So I say that, you on some shit, Patch. You run a phase all week. Fuck a dish track. A snack time. That was a bang or two. It's the one that Kanye retweeted. That's the one Y being Almighty J retweeted. How did you think Kanye even found out about it?

Probably spamming him and he seen it. Yeah. Thought like, damn, this shit fire. Kanye, I love you, nigga, no matter what nobody say about you, me. So you're admitting that you were a comment spammer for a period of time? Boy, I spanned. Boy, meat, meal got me blocked right now. Wow.

And that's my, him and Drake is my favorite. artist, bro. Right. Been listening to them boys for so long. I got the open DM with Drake in case you want to, like, shoot your shot. You want to do this right now? You can film a video and send it to Drake in the DMs. I like this.

But Drake, I'm pretty sure he heard Northside ghetto soldiers. I'm pretty sure Drake know I'm a big fan of him, bro. I love Drizzy, bro. You know what I mean? Back where niggas was like, bro, turn the Drake off, bro. Niggas, niggas slowly. What are you going to do? just tap the filming yourself button and just send it through.

There's a lot of pressure right here. Yeah, it is. I'm sure you know some other people with the open Drake DM. Ah, man. Pressure's on. This Drake DM, what should I do? What should I do? Hey, Red, you, you're in the high seat.

You always make these decisions. He got a Drake DM right here. This Drake DM. They follow each other. What should I do? Should I send them? something off my page. Like, hey, this kid, talk about you. You're going to pretend to be me.

Yeah, just do the video. It'd be like, yo, I stole this dude out of 22's phone. You can plot on it longer if you want. And also you could film the video separately and I could send it. Send him a snippet. Yeah. Send him the snippet. That DJ Vlad interview. Hi, Drizzi.

I'm BFB to Pac-Man. I'm BFB to Pac-Man, bro. I've been saying your name and my raps. I've been trying to get this feature from you. I'm independent. We did. 10 million in a month. I ain't signed it to no label.

Unless it's OVO. Remember, I said that in my rap. I said in a new track that I'm about to drop. I said, I ain't signed it to no label, less is OVO. Ten years ago, what I say? I ain't signed it to no label, less it's OVO. something something but it used to be foe for foes i turned down to labels on all my shit i'm the fucking goat

who i said that even roof chris 10 years ago it was foe for foes oh i signed it to no label that says ovio uh is roof chris now 10 years ago was foe for foes he said let's go to ruse chris after this some shit like that but yeah damn let's go to wendies after this that'd be late baked potato

Bro. So you can't, so you don't think I should have seen this, like, in this flat interview. That Vlad interview. He might hear about this. That's what I'm saying. Like, go to my page and send him that to the deal. I'm not nervous about you having my phone for this long. I don't know what you're going to do on there. No, I ain't on a friend. I ain't built like that, bro. I'm just kidding.

I ain't built like that. I mean, that's a lot of pressure. We make a little video. Like, hey, Jersey. It's me. Pac-Man. They call me that because I eat yellow dots. No?

It's got the K anywhere. Miss Pac-Man. Oh. You know, there's a lot of rappers who have, like, Miss Pac-R-R-Pack-Man-related songs. I think Beanie Siegel has one, though. I'm thinking of in my head right now. I wonder where you're typing.

He said he's not signing. Oh, my God. You're really writing this pretending to be. Unless it's obvious. Reminder that you can't type that N-word when you're pretending to be me? Oh, no, I'm most deaf. Okay.

It's just, that would be a little weird. Might get the unfollow. Nah, bro. You know, the cool thing about Drake is that you can only comment on his post if he follows you. So his post will have like 40 comments and shit. Huh? Interview, he ain't never, he never interviewed Drake? No.

That would be something, though. Huh? Would he let me? Uh, you know, pretty picky. He did like a two-hour. podcast with rap radar yeah that was pretty epic what are you looking at you just looking at your own account you should if i were you i would copy and paste the link to the fucking free joe exotic and then i would make a video of you saying like hey drake this is adam i'm i'm sending this message

in the middle of my no jumper interview i don't know actually don't say this adam said this is the pacman he's about to unfollow himself Imagine if you went to your own video and I had disliked it. How would you have felt? I still love you, Adam. I'm going to tell you why. I'm going to tell you why. Why?

Because. That would be fucked up. I'd be fucking angry if I were you. No, for what? Bro, Adam, you got to understand. Bro, listen, I lurk this from A. Red, bro. You can't take none of this shit personal. You can't take none of this shit personal.

Bro, no, you can't. You can't because I'm here right now. Right. You put me in front of your fans. What the fuck? Nick, I love you for that. You got to understand. I am from Flint, Michigan, my nigga.

My mom of them, bro, they, they, nobody in my family have seen 200,000. You got to run out of those dollars? I'm about to do this shit. I'm about to, I'm about to take this to new levels. You got to understand, bro. I'm grateful for every good, positive, my nigga, if I, if something happened to me or if I leave out of here and I get robbed or a nigga. Pistler with me anything.

You posted. I'm a still fuck with you after that. Because that's your job. You're the media. I wouldn't, I wouldn't, bro, I don't take nothing personal. I'm grateful for you, dog. I appreciate that.

Yeah. I'm just keeping on 100. Back to the. Oh, you already sent it to him. He just already matches Drake on his shit. He's writing his living sin. You should, but then you should

respond to a picture of you. Just so he knows is. I don't care At this point I don't care I said he did 10 million independent In one month he's your biggest fan He said he's not signing it Unless it's to OVO

Yeah Send the selfie right now of us That'd be funny Yeah If he does fuck with you This will be a historic interview moment Because they'll get to see us Plotting on it

This is a dream come true man I want to work with you bro I don't even know what to say My mom just dry right up. I'm right here. Thank you. Been listening to you since spending every moment at the studio, a little fat boy in my mama basement, you know what I mean, in Flint, Michigan. You know what I mean? A night off. That's what it was called. You inspire me, bro since then. Love you, bro.

There it is. Hey, if he don't respond to that, he's a heartless dude. Or just a busy guy. He's crazy active on Instagram though. You see him liking shit all the time. There it is. Shot the shot. Look, so listen Adam, what you want, bro? For what? For what? Right, right. I was just about to say, what? Like, if this connects, if this connects, bro, and like, we connect the dots, and like, we connect the dots.

I mean, we connect the dots. And I'm right, because he really didn't just have to, bro, nobody would have did that, bro. I think he'll appreciate the energy. Drake's into the new shit. I'm talking about what I owe you. Oh, shut up. We don't roll like that, bro. What do you mean?

We're friends. No, but I'm saying, though, it's a dinner, something for Christmas. Do you celebrate Christmas? Which is your religion? Atheist. Okay. But yeah, what you, okay, so, something for Christmas. Something for Thanksgiving.

I'm about to have a baby. So if you wanted to, you know, maybe at the baby's first, the birthday party, you could wear the clown costume and come in or something? Oh no, on Christmas. If you were Santa. Boom. A black santa. He's going to traumatize this, dude.

He's going to traumatize this, dude. He's going to traumatize a black Santa. I remember my dad got me a black santa. It was BFB in Pac-Man. No, for real, though, bro. Like, for real, nah, you had a baby shower yet? It was BFBita Thayer. She can't even have a baby shower because of the corona.

That's what she's saying. Well, I sent something, bro, because like I said before my nigga, like I'm grateful for this like like they like y'all probably think like I think y'all been like popular or rich for too long like when I talk even when I talk to solomon it's just like right he just be like okay bro okay bro it's nothing okay bro well he believes in it's nothing like like and that's what every person who I come in contact with that's successful and I'd be like no I think like I think like people is just so not used to people being grateful and people being respectful and people being thankful you know of them so it's like they don't really give a fuck because they doing it for whatever

reason but i just be one people to know that bro i really appreciate y'all like like Vlad like at the end of the Vlad interview i i bought him in his team i mean i bought him in a videographer who you know that was his team there i bought them lunch oh that's nice but i would love to do the same thing for y'all Oh, so you met Vlad in real life? No, he can't, he had, I'm talking about the camera guy that he had come set up. We shot that in my living room. Oh, really? Yeah, like, I just be one of-

Genius with that. He sends the camera crew to you now. Yeah, same thing with Sean Cotton. Sean Cotton did the same thing. Oh, really? Yeah. I'm behind the time. I'm having people actually come here and shit.

Yeah, but I want to do that for y'all, man, or, you know, whatever. Like, whatever, bro. I'm, like, for real. Like, you just really just, you know what I mean? Yeah, don't worry about it. big luck hey open my DM and text that major artist see if he's in the so you're pretty hyped on this collaboration that you're trying to make happiness. How did you start talking to this artist? What happened was I seen it that there was following me.

And bro. Do you guys have the song? Yeah, I'm gonna let you hear. I'm gonna let you hear off camera. Yeah, and it's delightful. Really? No. He didn't even say what time? He didn't even say it's in the location because he said around six. It's six right now. Six right now.

603. Yeah. New Hampshire. Shot on New Hampshire. But, uh, I just hit him, bro, and you miss 90, you miss a hundred, you miss 99, 99 that you don't shoot. 99% of the shots you don't take. No, 100% of the shots you don't take.

No, 100% of the shots you don't shoot. and say Wayne Gretzky, Michael Scott. Yeah. So I shot, I shot a couple. A lot of people replied. One person who didn't reply, I'm still going to be on his ass too. I ain't going to say his name. But this guy was the first person to return the feature.

As in, sent it back. I just got off work. I was chilling with my pops, my step pops. That I raised me. Shout out the Bobo. Mm-hmm. Shout up Bobo. Bowbo.

Shout out to Bobo, man. Raised another nigga kids. Anyways. So what? You make fun of your own stuff, that? No. No, that's love. That's love.

You raise another nigga kids? That's solid. That sounds like you're kind of making fun of them for it. I like that. It's pretty funny. No, no. No, you raise another nigga kids. I love you for that.

I love him. To this day, I do anything for him. When this rap shit cheese come through, I plan on getting him paying his car doing whatever he wants so he can chill. You know what? I love him, bro. I love that man.

But I was just chilling with him. While my mom were out of time and man, I grabbed that nigga by his shirt. I'm like, nigga, we made it. Nicker, we? Because I'm independent, bro. I don't have no label. And it's like, bro, I'm putting in the work, bro.

I want this shit so bad. And it's like, I want it to be a disc, I want it to be like a straight line between major and underground. Because only thing that's between us is a label. You're signed to a label and I'm not. That's the only thing. Right.

It's the only thing, bro. And you got a bigger fan base because, you know, you've been in the game. But, bro, we are the same. I can get on the track. I can make it sound sexy too. I got a fan base, too. Right. I was so happy, bro.

I was just like, I get, like, man, I'm blessed, bro. I get the, now I get the pay. Like, I just paid off this car from my granny. Like I get to do stuff like that. Like that's the beauty of it. Like when you get to do stuff like that. Right. Instead of going to buy drip and jewelry and I'm like, bro, I plan on paying off my

granny all like some taxes on her house. I'm paying that off this year too. But for the year up, I'm paying her credit card stuff off. And then she good. And then I'm like, I'm about to get my mama next. And then we just, you know, that's that's the beauty. That's what I plan on doing. It's cool seeing a rapper be.

like thankful and appreciative of the opportunity because a lot of times you see young rappers who they kind of go from never having shit and never having anybody look out for them to taking everything 100% for granted in the span of like a month or two like they they just it's like an immediate transition from thirsty as fuck to entitled as fuck and it's like it's like they never was broke it's like they never feel hunger it's like they never feel stress. Like, bro, be cool, bro. Because if you treat people good,

don't matter if they treat you bad, my nigga, you're going to be in a good place. Because everybody going to say, yeah, yeah, that was, even if somebody treats you bad, people going to, you know, what happened to their relationship? Oh, man, you know,

Big baby, you know, big baby, he talked a little bit too much. He keeps it too real. Sometimes he just say the wrong things. You know what I mean? He just being his self. He keeping a real. But though he's a good nigga.

They fell out because Cuzz did some bullshit to him. Mm. But no, we can trust him, though. He's good. We can lead him with a million dollars. He ain't going to steal nothing. He's going to come back, and that million is still going to be there. You know what I mean?

He's going to keep it solid with you. He's going to love you. He's going to offer whatever. He going to do whatever for you. That's what I want, bro. I just want my name good. That's what I want. That's more important than money, bro.

When your name good, that's more important than money. Your integrity as a man, but then also your integrity as an artist. Because in terms of, like, what your personal, presenting to the audience. As soon as you start to compromise yourself, they're, like, unbelievably good at sniffing that out. Right. And another thing is, like, well, like,

I plan on open a door for other Flint artists. I want to do so much for Flint artists, bro. Yeah, I plan on busting that door down, like, extra crazy, like, heavy. You know, I'm planning on doing that. And my hallway was like, bro, did nobody show you love my nica? When you was trying to get on, wasn't nobody supporting you.

I'm like, bro, you don't think like that. That's the problem. That's the problem right there. You don't think like that. You're doing this for the city. You're doing this for Flint. Do you understand what Drake did for Toronto was beautiful? For Canada as a whole, yeah.

People don't look at that like that, though. He made it lit there. Yeah. Believe that. When you go to Canada, it's like, it's hard to have a conversation about music and culture without his name kind of coming up constantly, yeah. Yeah, bro, it's just like, same thing with Houston. Same thing with New York.

Same thing. Bro, when you got to pop an artist, it's saying like, bro, stuff happens, bro, but you got to be in the community. You know, same thing with Atlanta. Same thing with, you know, you just, I'm trying to bring Flint up as a whole, bro. How far away from Detroit is Flint? Like an hour, 45, 45, like 45, 50 minutes. So it's interesting because there is like a whole wave of different.

Detroit artists that are coming up and stuff, do you feel like you're genuinely a part of that yet or still developing up to that level? I don't know, bro. I really couldn't tell you, bro. Kind of hard to gauge your own poppiness, huh? Yeah, I... Uh, bro, I just take it like...

Bro, I'm just working, bro. I'm, like, grateful. I'm grateful for a million views. 10 million. I'm grateful for that. 10 million is crazy. I'm grateful for 500,000 of you. I'm grateful for 100K.

I'm grateful for that. So I don't look at it like, oh, yeah, I'm on the same staturess. They're doing their thing. I'm doing my thing. And I'm grateful for them. I'm grateful for me. I'm grateful. I'm grateful.

I'm even in the conversation, bro. That's, that's, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, this is just me, bro. I'm, I'm that grateful, my nigga, because just two, three years ago, I was getting five thousand shrie. Like, you know, my mama, you know, my girl, like, stop stressing. It's going to be okay. You're going to, you know, like, man, I want it so bad. I want it so bad.

So you never forget that, bro. You never, bro, you never forget shit like that. Some people do, but I don't. And I'm grateful for that. I'm grateful I'm here in L.A. talking to, yeah, no jumper. I want to see you once you got, like, a million followers. and the million dollars in the bank. Then I want to see you come on here

and we're going to do the side-by-side comparison and see if you're still the same guy. I'm going to be even more grateful than you. Look, I watch Mike Tyson podcast, right? Bro, I watch, he's the most perfect and perfect human being in the world, bro. Like to really know him and really like watch him and watch how he talk and watch how he think.

It's just like, Mike Tyson, bro, you're the most perfect and perfect person. ever you watch this podcast uh a little bit i've seen a few episodes seen him a jail button and shit so you hear how he talk you hear i express itself you hear how he expressed itself how he grew up how he how he how he conducted himself why he did the things that he did he's just like bro like in the way that he thought and but at the same time they're like yeah we heard you used to get money to homeless people he like yeah all he used to so it's like he always had a heart like It's just like... It's weird to think about what happened with him, though, because he's somebody who

pretty much admits that they just became like a victim of their own ego very quickly after he rose to fame, you know? And it's not like... It's kind of... It's a different game because, you know, he sort of was so talented physically and, you know, but he certainly struggled for where he got to, but at the same time, it's kind of hard that I think you guys are very different people. It might be just because you're so smart, I think, that you...

could very much, like you see the value in staying humble and stuff, whereas I think Mike Tyson, he wasn't super educated and stuff. So he just sort of fell into the belief that he was invincible. Right, but I don't even think I'm humble, bro. I think I'm just myself. Yeah, but you're humble. Very appreciative. Yeah, but that don't, that, I just think I'm just grateful, bro. That's all. Like, that's all. I think that's how you should be right. You don't feel like you should be here? Yeah. You feel like you should be here? No. No, no at all. Right? You feel like, damn, I'm grateful.

Like, I put, I work for this. It's like, that's how I feel like, man, I'm, I'm, I just got to keep. Let's just, let's just, let's just elevate. Let's just elevate. Let's just, you know, and it's just like, like, even with songs, like, I'm not an artist that just going there and just, you know, just, you know, just say whatever comes to my head. Oh, yeah, we just going to do that. Like, no, we got to, okay, let's switch this bar around us. Do that sound good?

It's like, that with me. It's like, bro, we can't fuck this up. We got to make it sound sexy. We got to make it do what it do. And we got to market it right. Let's hit, oh, oh, we're going to do this. Hey, what you think? What you think?

Hey, Ray, what you think? Hey, what you think? Okay, okay. All right. So it's just like that. Like, it's just like, let's just work. But at the same time, let's be grateful, bro. Let's not disappoint nobody.

Let's, you know, but at the same time, be yourself. And if they get disappointed, oh, well, because I'm being myself. But at the same time, if I'm wrong, then I'm wrong. and I apologize for it. Right. So that's just me. I don't think it's like humble. I'm trying to be humble or like, no, I'm just grateful, bro.

But back to the Mike Tyson shit, he was just like, bro, he was talking about the Tyson Fury and what's that? What's the other dude who fight? Deontay Wilder. And he was like, Deontay Wilder, he had big guy. He shouldn't play that role. He a big guy. He should be like the humble guy, the layback guy, because he already.

big. He shouldn't be all that. You know what I mean? It's just rose. The little guys should, you know, Floyd should talk, you know, that big boy shit. Right, or like a Connor McGregor is good as a shit talker, whereas when you're the fucking seven foot tall muscle head. Yeah, like, it's a different

people want something different from you. That's interesting. Right, so. Yeah, so it's just like jims like that. Like, you watch, I watch these interviews and look for gyms, bro, because it's like these is people who've been rich for a long time through different periods of time. And it's like, bro, like Nipsey said, you study rich niggas moves like your homework.

You got to watch these interviews and learn, bro. A lot of people take it for granted because when I think about when I was coming up and I didn't have access to, you know, watching everybody have in-depth hour plus long conversations on the internet. People take it for granted how valuable that is. Yeah, you was reading it. You get a book or like if you wanted to understand the music industry when I was a kid, I mean, you just really weren't learning that much from magazines and fucking books, you know.

Whereas this, like, anybody up-and-coming artists could learn a lot from listening to this conversation and you at the point that you're at in your career where it's in very recent memory to you that you were a regular-ass artist who was still just trying to make something happen. Something. I still am trying to make some happen. Yeah, yeah. But you clearly have a very good start going to the career, and you have like a couple of things that are going extremely well. I mean, that, realistically, that is a very interesting thing for any up-and-coming artists to study because that's just not, you know, like, you know, it's, it's hard to find somebody who's in that perspective and having an in-depth conversation about it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, most definitely, most definitely. Like I said before, bro, I'm just grateful, man. I'm, I'm, I'm, it says, I'm grateful, man. A lot of people don't take for, they take it for granted, like how, when you go on a, podcast, that's your moment that you get to shine and you get to say whatever the fuck it is that's, you know, like you could do or say anything on any given interview. Some artists are masters of taking their moments of media attention and really utilizing it. And some, like daylight is a fucking great example. Like him going on Vlad and just being insane, saying the craziest shit, wearing the craziest outfits, all that stuff. I mean, that, he's really, really taking advantage of his time there, regardless of if you like the actual.

stuff that he's doing. So what are you working on? You're still going video by video? Are you thinking about the project thing? Yeah, video by video. We're just trying to warm it up. We're just trying to get her wet, baby. Yeah.

We're in here. We got her in a room. We're just trying to for play and get her wet, you know what I mean? That's all, man. We ain't in no rush, man. We're here for a long time. Not a good time, baby. Go bigger, go home.

Mom. Man, man, move smart. I get your ass to jail. Never come back from it. Facts. Yeah. B.F. Be the Pac Man. Lunch, cool company. Wait, no jumper. It's looking very beautiful out here. You told me that I was handsome on the phone before. Man, super handsome. Been feeling great ever since I heard that. Yes. I got my beard trimmed right before we did this, too. No cap. It's looking real neat right here. Oh, Jesus, no. Man, my nigga T. white as hell no cap that's how you had to look

when you start talking to people this is something this is something for everybody right hit them with a compliment I notice you do that to like everybody but no

that's because I really mean I really think you and Vlad is very sexy that's another that's another topic you feel me I'm trying this to

me too here you saying that Vlad is sexy makes me take you calling me sexy slightly less serious no offense of what it's good looking guy

Vlad I fuck with you Vlad you want me fucking up I'll fuck him up for you blad don't worry about it glad you got my number glad glad bro you see that in the scene

though why they be calling even that in the comments bro oh because of uh crunchy black when he did the interview he just called him glad like 400 fucking times in a row and Vlad never corrected so now it's like a meme and what's so with this

uh I'll be watching the comments they'd be like yeah TK Kirkland said yeah I was there when BFV the Pac-Man got shot And I'm like, bro, they be really on my nigga TK. And I want to like, damn, they made me think TK be lying by a lot of shit, but I'm fuck with TK, man. TK's tight. TK. TK.

It is funny as fuck how he has a story about how he was there for everything. But you think it's legit, though? I mean, I assume so. I don't, I never heard anybody accusing him being a liar, so. Right. I take it, I assume it's probably. Right, right. And he's been around for so long.

So long. He was in a boiler blocker's movie. He was. I didn't know that. I love boiler blocker, but not the part where they killed the mailman. They had my nigga fucked up in that movie. He wasn't bringing the checks on time.

Oh, with some checks. Baby, oh with some checks, bro? Beatrice. Oh, with some checks, my nigga? You killed the USP, nigga? I was some checks. I was a kid wondering why the fuck baby's name was Beatrice in the movie. I don't know.

Yeah, I got to spend more time just like re-watching all the hood classics, you know? I don't know. You know, somebody said that to me about a sex video that me, my girl, and another girl film, somebody said, that's a certified hood classic right there. That immediately made me feel a lot better about filming sex. Oh, you was really out here doing that? Oh, I pipe, yeah. But as soon as someone said certified hood classic, I was like, you know what?

He's right. That was a fire fucking joint right there. Anyway, I'm hungry as fuck. He just made my eye hurt. He just made my eye. He looked mad different without the glasses. Though my man's really was. so I for some reason

because I seen your girl they was like yeah that's his girl for real for real but I ain't know you'd be out here with her oh yeah I supply the D that's me okay so this just an honest question like as a man like what you have you're having a boy or girl

girl so you already know what type of question I'm about to ask right so yeah am I gonna fart around her no no hold it in her all life nah I'm talking about like with with this situation like what you knew and now like like how do and this like me not trying to be

funny or just just me asking because i'm like damn like because you know how kids is like oh no i seen you know you know you know how people be bro right i'm in just gonna sit down talk to her about it and yeah yeah yeah keep it yeah i really don't i don't i don't i don't really feel like there's even that much to explain you know i feel like our kid is probably going to be around And people who do that their whole life. They're going to be around rappers. They're going to be around point star girls. I fuck with that.

I don't really. I fuck with that. People act like it's going to be this crazy thing to have to explain one day. And it's like, no, I'm going to tell my kid's going to know, like, when it's time, when they're old enough, they're going to understand everything that their mom and dad ever did. Facts. Facts. It is what it is. You don't like it.

Go be somebody else's kid. Right. You see crazy. You see this big ass house? Right. Right. I'm going to tell my kid all kinds of fucked up shit and be like, I had to shoot. 10 people to get this house.

Man, oh, God. And then I would be like, no, I'm just kidding, but I had to fuck 10 girls. They'd be like, oh, well, that ain't that bad. How many you won't, bro? I don't know. Because sometimes I look at like, future and young boy, and I'm like, man, is it the kind of thing

where you have one kid and you're like, fuck it, man. Maybe I need 19 of these. Boosie, you got like a million of them running around. The only thing about it is, right? The only terrible thing about the system that I don't like is soon as a baby comes out of vagina. guess who that baby is obligated to stay with the mom yes even though the daddy is there even though the daddy can be better than a mom i know some ancient mommy's out here

why does why that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's whenever i talk to that's that's something i'm a fight bro that's something i want to fight for right why we can't have equal rights like of the mother okay but from my perspective at least what i know right now if fast forward let's say my kid is two years old and me and her can't be together anymore right I definitely think she should probably take the kid right because I don't know shit that's right now bro you gonna learn bro I don't know what type of father is you

but me I eat sleep and breathe my kids bro I love them my nigga I washed them up I love them they love they daddy bro like I feel boozy I'm gonna ride a doctor for mine I'm taking my to the top with me. They right here. They're right here.

Bro, they'd be in this interview, right? They were in this interview. They was in the Vlad interview. Only reason they ain't in this interview because I came out here, you know, this interview wasn't scheduled. But that was my thing. Bro, have my kids in every interview. Right.

Have my kids seeing this week, week as fathers, bro. Like people, okay, they need their mama, right? From, from, the kids need their mama from like, they need their mama their whole life. Right. But they really need their mama from, like, 10 to, like, 12. Right? They instilled the morals in them, right? Right.

We showed them a different thing after like 12, 13. We showed them different. You know, they need to be with us more after that time period of their life. Like, that's what we need to step in, like, extra hard. Uh-huh. You know what I mean? No, yeah, definitely. The mama's in store the morals and, you know, other things that we joke about and think funny.

Right. Because it's a lot of shit that you joke a lot, joke about and think funny that your girl, she probably don't think that shit funny. Yeah, I definitely could predict that being an issue. Because they're more serious than us. A lot of shit, they don't think it's funny. Me and we more loose with it.

They're more tight with it. You know what I mean? So it's like, yeah. I'm used to being an uncle. Exactly. So, but you're having your own kid now. Right. So it's going to be different.

You know what I mean? And then you're going to grow as a father, bro. You're going to get better. It would be such a good ending to this podcast if Drake had already responded. Yeah. Most definitely. Did he read it? Not yet.

Okay. Crunchy black hit me up there. Join me on a video chat in a messenger room. I'm going to guess that that's probably a virus. A hacker. Yeah. He did send an Instagram link, though. That's something that old school rappers be doing.

They'd be sending you a link to everything they do in the DMs. I feel like they got like a bot that does that for them. Probably, probably do. Probably do. All right. BFB the Pac-Man, no jumper. We did shit. Hour and a half.

It's pretty good. Yeah, man. It's looking beautiful, man. It's looking beautiful. Yeah. Let's get out of these streets. I'd have to make the only one with tax. I got to trade a baby hair off my shit.

Damn. Lutz crew.