No Jumper - BH on Being With Nipsey Hussle Since Day 1, Responds To The Game, Wack100 and Kodak Black
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No jumper.
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Today I'm in here with B.H.
How you feeling, man?
What up, bro?
Nice to have you in here.
Blessing us with your presence.
What's up?
Tell me a little bit about your upbringing.
I got to worry these?
No, not if you don't want to.
Yeah.
Tell me a little bit about your upbringing.
Where you're from and all that?
I'm from like Sloss and Crenshaw.
Do I look at it?
Wherever you want.
All right, all right.
I'm from Slossin and Crenshaw, like,
same hood, Nepsie Hustle, same.
area.
Born and raised.
Uh-huh.
And so when do you meet him, Nip?
When to, like, talk about coming up out there?
Shit, coming up.
I'm at NEP probably like 13, some shit like that.
Just coming up and like, growing up in the area, he's doing little shit, I'm doing
little shit.
They older than me.
So when I'm 13, that probably was like, 17.
17, some shit like that.
So that was like the older homies, so like I'm doing young homie shit.
They're doing older shit.
Kind of like linked up.
I mean like, well...
Can you just get a little bit closer to that moment?
Well basically like when, uh, man, Ned really like linked up, it was a little later on.
And I didn't even when I first met him.
It was like I was 16.
I got shot.
I got out the hospital and then like, Nip kind of pulled me under his wing.
pulled me under his wing. That was like 2007. So that's when we really became close.
Okay. So you were 16 though? What kind of shit were you into? You were fully already
immersed in the gang being shit or what? Yeah, I was getting to the money. But you know,
I grew up. It's the shit we gotta go through. Right. Banged out. Getting to the bag, but
got shot 2007, got out the hospital from that shit. And Nip just like really just grabbed me
this wing like you got to do so other shit you can't just you know what
I'm saying you got to go all right can you tell us about what happened in the
situation you getting shot yep oh shit wrong place wrong time
niggas got to shooting I got hit laid out got hit in the head I hit in the
back of my leg but you got hit in the back of the head right back of the head in the back
of my leg I was fucked up for a long time like nip told me later on like bro
we got the call you was dead and then i was so hurt the guy got hitting the head they didn't know like
i would survive it or what they just get the call like the bitch just got shot in the head what the
what the fuck how do you get hit in the back of the head and survive it went in at angle or some
shit it just missed well it didn't go straight through right so if it would have went straight
through it would kill me so it when they hit me it came i don't know however
that motherfucker turn good thing it turned because then it ended up
But it hit me, but it went through the school.
And they, like, got lost and it's, like, bone behind my shit right here.
I don't know what that bone car, but...
Right.
So you were in the hospital for a long-ass time?
How close do you come to losing your life?
Oh, yeah.
I went cold blue like three-four times.
It was real.
So, like, I end up bouncing out the hospital.
I'm like 60 days, like two months.
Right.
I was back.
I don't know how I just did it.
I was back.
and what's life like when you get back to the streets after uh haven't got shot in the back of the head
did that change you at all how'd that change you well i was just like
i was just on some shit like man this shit's serious what the fuck me i'm 16 i almost died
like you know what the fuck was it your phone yeah that's my shit like going up going up
they say uh oh yeah what did you say um just talking about how that changed you coming out of
that situation.
Oh yeah, it just had me on some shit like, they gotta make this shit worth it.
Like I was that close to losing my life.
I ain't had a threesome yet, that type of shit.
So I'm like, damn, what the fuck, man?
You gotta live a little bit.
Man, you was almost gone before you did anything.
Right.
You see, so I got out the hospital, like, on some shit, like, I'm just about to be on some
other shit.
I'm gonna still keep it up.
I'm gonna still do my thing, but I'm still do some.
some boss shit and be smart, you know what I'm saying? Make that shit go up. And so the funny thing
about it, I get out the hospital on like, I don't know what day. I get out. I'm trying to
sneak back until I get back to the hood. I'm going to mom's house. I'm sneaking up the stairs
limping this shit. I got crutches all type of shit. Head wrap like some crazy shit. I was
looking crazy. Just desperate to get home? Just trying to get the fuck out of there. That shit was
like jail to me. I was like, I got to go and I'm climbing up the stairs. Guess what I
running to him? Nip. Nip. He coming down 60. A little swoop, whatever the fuck he was
driving back to end, the cutler, some shit. Was he the man yet? Or was this before he had
any sort of, was he wasn't famous yet? Yeah, none of that. He didn't have no money. It was
a little $600,000, $1,000 car. Like, this is dense. So this was like 2007. You know what I'm
I'm saying everybody was grinding and doing what they're doing, but it wasn't like now.
Right.
So he coming out 60, he'd see me and passed me, chunked the hood up and keep pushing.
Then he realized who he just chunked the hood up to, backed up.
He looked like, bro, jumped out the car, helped me up the stairs.
He was just like, he was so like, damn, bro.
Can't believe I'm seeing you right now.
Like, this shit crazy.
They just said, you got killed.
I'm like, yeah.
That was what was going around the neighborhood.
Right, right.
So, you know, we talk, talk, talk, talk, talk.
And then he just like on a whole other note, bro.
You got to do some other shit, bro.
Like, you back, you know, on your tip.
You got to do some other shit.
So I was just chilling in the house, you know, trying to get better, hill up.
And so when I, like, start getting better, I'm like, I'm trying to think.
Like, what the hell I'm going to do?
Ain't shit to do.
We'll go outside.
Oh, hang.
with the homies. I ain't had shit to do. So I called nip. Bro, what you doing? And I'm about to
probably go to this studio or something. Oh, yeah, fuck it. I'm going with you. So now I'm
starting to go with him to the studio. And now I went to the studio and I was irritated
with it because it was like, niggas were sitting there too long. I'm like, bro, we've been
here how long? It's time to go. Let's go to the mall. Let's do something. I'm not. I'm not. I'm
I'm not trying to sit here all day.
You weren't used to that studio mentality.
No, I didn't know at first.
I was like, what the fuck is this, bro?
Hell no.
That's a mark of pride for a rapper to be like, no, no.
When we lock in, we lock in for 10 hours.
Right.
And so he'll be like, well, go get you some food or whatever.
I'll be here.
And I was like, all right, you tripping.
Come back.
My fool, I eat.
Still there.
I'd be like, bro, you still ain't ready?
Nah, I'll leave again.
Go do something.
Come back.
he's still there so fast forward to like now that back then kind of showed me the program
what it take sit in the studio so now nowadays i'm in studio every day 24-7 i'll never leave
the food come to the studio everything so it's just crazy how it's like you know what i'm saying
what was your perspective on nip back then though like did you see him and you were like this is
gonna be the man or were you just like, because you're lost. You're like 16, 17, 17 year old kid
that just got at the hospital. Were you even thinking about being a rapper or were you just
like trying to figure out anything to be into?
Hell, no, I still ain't thought about being no rapper. It's cool. Like, I learned it like,
fucking went bro, chilling on that. I was always like crying and getting to the money. So he
already knew like, I remember he told me what day I went to prom. This was like right after I got
shot, come through in the Mayback, pull up to the hood.
He like, hey, digger, when you with the prime, you pulled up in that bag back in the hood
or the hobies.
I love that.
He like, think I just knew you.
It was like just different, like, how your whole shit was.
And it was like the same with him.
You know, he wasn't even on that type of shit, but he was always doing something.
He had hustle going with the CDs out of the trunk.
Like, he was getting money.
And like, you would just see it.
Like, I'm like, I fuck with just how he, he's moving and getting to the bad.
He wasn't just sitting around.
Like, a nigga keeping in hood, handling his business, fight, do all the shit.
But you still get into the money.
But by that point in his life, did you feel like he was, was he basically, like, done making money on the street type level?
He fully converted to doing the music shit at that point?
No, he was still on the bullshit at this point.
But then, like, solely but surely, but surely it started picking up to he, like, he like,
I'm done with that shit.
I'm like, huh?
They're like, bro, I ain't doing it no more.
Right.
I'm like, no trap night.
Nah, about to do this.
He's like, that's what they want me to do.
Fuck up.
I'm like, all right, bro.
Let's see.
And, you know, I'm just on some shit, like, whatever you decide to do, I'm with you.
And we became like that and we just locked in to the point, like, every day, me and
Hustle together, every day.
He'd go home, I'm going home with him.
He's waking me up.
He's trying to be.
go to, no, later on he going to the gym, making me going shit.
I'm like, I'm pulled out, not going to the gym, bro.
Just went to sleep an hour ago.
You've been sleep since 10 p.m., you know, I'm there.
Right.
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Is he like the first, like, successful rapper that you even had anything to do with,
even new?
Yeah, like, as far as, like, rap.
Yeah, nip.
Like, in our hood, niggas ain't took it like that.
Like, Nip took it.
He took it there.
We ain't come from like no rappers under us where niggas helping us like no Dr. Dre, no shit like that.
It was just like, no.
Like that was the rapper that kind of gave us to bounce like, this shit could work.
And it was just little shit that was just showing us like, damn.
What do you think he saw in you?
Shit.
He probably just saying like, this is a little nigger different.
Like, cut motivated, he already getting his own money and just doing shit.
Like I wouldn't know sitting around type nigga like, nip, what's going on?
You got some money, nip, I'm hungry.
Nope.
Hockey got his money, got this shit.
It wasn't a lot.
I ain't saying I was just super bawling, but I wasn't super broke and I wasn't asking
on a nigga for nothing.
So I know he's seen all them qualities like, damn, this nigger, I don't have me for shit,
no matter how much money I got or like, whatever.
So I just feel like he just seen the niggas was a real one.
Like, this little thing could be a young boss too one day.
And I see that was his mission, like to become a young boss.
So like once we start getting on it, I'm picking his brain as like the older bro.
He picking my brain as the younger bro.
We learn from each other.
One thing that like really stands up about his whole mentality towards shit is that he didn't seem like he was really in a rush to, you know, give up a big portion of his shit.
or like, you know, sell out or whatever.
Like, he seemed like he really had the patience
to, like, see out this long-term, respectable rap career.
Was that the model that he had?
Well, yep, because, like, we didn't have so many meetings with labels
that was like, come on, let's do this, do this, do this.
And I remember we was in one meeting.
I don't know who it was.
We or somebody, it was just like a meeting we was in.
And I'm just a young nigga there with him.
I don't know shit about music.
What's going on?
Who these people he talking to?
I ain't know none of that.
But it was just like, I'm just there with him, calling the little bro.
So I'm just sitting there listening.
And I remember they was trying to sign him and give him a deal.
And he just was like, oh, we aren't.
Like, should we take this deal?
And I'm like, we could take it.
But if we don't, it's the same shit.
I'm going to feel the same way.
We can still grind and we could get to.
it, how we been getting into it. So what? And so I remember he was just like, man, I don't think
I'm gonna take that shit. I'm like, don't take it. Just keep pushing. So he didn't take it.
And we kept pushing. And I remember like the label or something folded, like right after he was
supposed to take that deal. And I was like, yeah, yo motherfucker man, smart. You smart. And he
held out and he kept hell-heling. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, he was on that for sure.
Definitely. Do you remember this complex little documentary piece where they had you at the liquor store on 60th and the 8th?
Right, right, right.
That's like, what year do you think that was?
Do you have any memories from that?
Because that's a very like quintessential scene of y'all just chilling in your neighborhood, him sort of explaining where he's from.
Yeah, I didn't remember.
I remember it like, I didn't remember him calling me, like complex.
They come into the hood to do something.
He ain't really explained just like complex coming to the hood.
I'm like, all right.
So all I know is he walking through the hood with complex.
All now slossing, 10th.
I have all the main blocks.
The niggas can't come down.
He got complex with the cameras and all that shit.
So he called me like, bro, where are you at?
I'm like, I'm on the block.
He's like, come outside.
So I'm like, I don't know what the hell he got going on.
I come outside.
Here he come outside.
walking down 8th Avenue with the cameras, that thing.
So I'm walking up 60th.
I get to 8,000, 60th.
If he walking down, we meet right at the stove,
and linked up from there, went to the store,
then we went back to my block where I was raised in my house,
went inside and took complex in there and showed him, like,
where before all this shit, when this is just believe in me as a young nigga,
he used to just pull up, like, Hoggy where you at?
So that was your mom's spot?
Right.
That's my mom's spot.
So when you're telling that story about walking up the stairs, that's where that is.
That you come in my jug.
Okay.
You know what I'm all that?
That's crazy.
Right.
So he would come over there and just really chill out with me and just fought.
And we would just pick each other brain to the point.
You know what I said?
Everything I picked from wherever I would want to be on, I'll write it on the wall.
So I didn't forget.
And it was just like, I remember Nick came in there like,
damn, Nick, I'd be doing this crazy ass shit.
Like, he liked it because he like, you write shit on, like, I was like, I don't want to forget this.
I don't want to forget this.
I'll write it on the wall.
So I just had all the type of just shit written all around the walls.
Right.
And we had just come in there, vibe out, knock out, record, just do a little dumb shit.
It's crazy to think about, like, that sort of time period in your life where you're so young and the music shit is so new to you and everything.
You just feel so real.
And, like, it's crazy the thing about that, juxtapose with where he eventually made it.
to in the way that he's remembered today.
Like, is that almost kind of hard to wrap your head around that, like, things got so big
from just you guys being in that room writing shit on the wall?
Yeah, man.
I wouldn't, man, we took it to some shit.
Like, I couldn't even imagine, like, taking it to, like, it's different, like, the whole
hood different because of, like, the shit we did.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, the young niggas just believed they'd be like, look at B.H.
Look at these niggas went from this.
Really went from this shit.
Ain't no cap in it.
Oh, no, nigger popped up.
No.
Nika been here since I was born in 90, been on the block since 90.
So it's like for us to come from that being broke to actually having money and shit, having like bank accounts and businesses and shit, niggas never knew about that type of shit.
So it's like it gave like hope to the hood.
Like, oh, you could do it too.
You know what I'm saying?
Nip first showed me I could do it
And I'm getting a game from him like damn bro
You got a credit card
How the fuck you get that?
He's like bro
Do this do this you can get you one too like yeah
And I'm just soaking up gaming
And we just kept you know what I'm saying
Right
That type shit
It's like the way you're describing him
Just like walking by himself
Along with the camera crew
And you know
A lot of different things we heard about Nipsey
Were you frequently worried about him
Just being so casual and comfortable
in his environment and not really worrying about anything crazy happening?
Real?
No, I wasn't worried about that, like, because it was like, we on deck.
You know what I'm saying?
Well, in that complex video, you were definitely on deck.
That shit was sticking right out of your pocket.
They didn't try to censor it or nothing.
It's too real.
Like, come on in.
Don't get shot.
Nip had, I had it then with him too.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
You're not about to just get up on us like that.
You know what I'm saying?
And not if I got action at trying to stop it or, you know what I'm saying?
Every time we're hanging, we're on day.
So it's like, no, I wasn't worried about him walking through the hood with the cameras.
Mm-mm.
So what's the crazy shit you've seen in terms of like shit through him that you've seen in your life
that you definitely would have never got a chance to witness if you didn't, if you weren't part of this fucking roller coaster ride?
Shit.
Should I got the CECA go from zero to millions.
Like we had a studio Avarado with these same little patches we got from a guitar center.
He just was like, fuck it, we're gonna make this a studio.
But they had studios way before that.
But I'm saying like when I got on with him all that, he got this little Avarado studio,
like right in the middle of downtown.
I mean some bullshit, bro.
Like, every day we come in there, it was thirsty.
Like, we had to watch other, like, we were so downtown.
It was like MS-13s and shit.
It wasn't like no games.
Like we like beef with or no shit like that.
This is a whole different world, even though it ain't that far from where you grew up.
It was probably like a black on Mexican-type war down there.
We don't know.
We ain't here for that.
We're here to work.
So he had the studio.
At this time, that studio is probably 400 a month.
So you know what that looked like.
Like, this LA, 400 a month, right.
We in there thugging it.
You know what I'm saying?
Like eating regular shit.
And then to the point like now where we took it to,
we eat what the fuck we want, when we won't.
So I got to really see it go from like zero to a million.
And I was like, you know, it was a good game.
I mean, when you haven't left your neighborhood or your area,
it's like you see the world a different way.
and then when you actually like see the world
when you go overseas and shit
all of a sudden things start to feel very different
in terms of your perspective on what the world is
and I feel like being part of that whole ride
that's like a big part of it
you know like you just grow and change a lot
as you see all that shit right?
Yep my bad bro
that's all good
keep blowing me up I'm tired of it
uh yeah
my bad bro what'd you say
no it's just like seeing the world
you know that kind of like changes you as a person
like when you've only seen your blog
or your neighborhood, you're going to kind of remain a certain type of person.
For sure. For sure. Yeah, you'd be like, you don't even know what's out there. So you'd be
thinking about going around the corner with the homies on the block and do that type of shit.
Man, you don't even know about Turson Kekos look like this. You don't know, just none of that
shit. Like, niggins don't even care about that because they don't even know about it.
So it was like, man, that was just a, that was a blessing for me too to like,
be able to get outside the box.
My first trip was like, Nip took me with him to New York.
Really?
This was way back.
Like, he just had some New York shit up.
First time seeing New York is a crazy feeling.
Right.
And I'm like, damn, I'm in New York.
This shit crazy.
I ain't never seen it.
I'm from the hood.
I don't know what New York looked like.
I just see it on TV.
So I got to New York.
Well, I remember he was just telling me going to New York.
So I was already on my tip.
I think I'm about to go book my flight.
He's like, you know what I'm going to book your shit?
You know, I'm gonna book my flight. What time we leave? He's like, I'm gonna send you all
a flight info. Book my flight. He hit me, where are you at? I don't know what happened.
I'm running late. But then I got in the airport, we on the plane. He's like, think of you
you really baited it. So it was funny. I'm like, hell yeah. Then we went to New York. This
one, it was like fucking like Johnny Scheip's now. We went to go hang out like with him and shit.
And then, yeah, I got to run around New York.
That was crazy.
Your first time seeing that, it just opens your mind up.
For sure.
When did Nip stop drinking lean?
Well, Nip, he never was like me with this lean shit.
He just did do it like recreational.
Nip was always like a strong-minded person to the point.
He was like, hell yeah, I'm drinking with you, hoagie.
Then in the morning he don't drink no more.
Right.
And then two weeks later, late night at the day.
the club and he in the studio he sees hoggy point at hawk give me a cup and next day he
don't drink no more so it was never just like he was no lane addict just didn't really like agree
with his personality because he was such a motivated driven person right yeah he'd get that lane and shit
and uh he'll be chill like nip just he just he already sleepy head so he'd get that drink
he ain't doing nothing because he'd just be like we'd be in paramount two months but
he'll get that drink and he's going to sleep.
Really, if he just want to go to...
He just nip, bro.
Like, someday we'd be in the studio,
no link, he just don't want to record,
just want to sit there and listen on, like,
motivational shit. He used to do that type of shit a lot.
Really? What kind of motivational shit?
It's like, all the type of boss shit,
like how Donald Trump
got all his money.
Really?
How Warren Buffett took it to the next level.
Like, just shit like that,
he'll just, you know what I'm saying?
You're educated yourself.
He was always like very conscious of the fact and did he verbalize it a lot that he was really trying to do something that was a lot bigger than just being a rapper.
Right.
He was always just trying to learn.
Like he was always like, man, what's the next level from where we at?
Just damn.
How did he do woo-woo-woo.
Oh, uh, Warren Buffett did this.
Woo-do woo-wooo-woo.
His dad taught him this.
You know what I'm saying?
And just soak that game up.
Right.
And try to apply it, you know, to ways he could.
What was the mentality behind like the story?
shopping center was he really trying to like did did he talk about what his dream was in terms of
building up all those businesses and shit yeah his dream you know every hood nigger dream
buy the hood up you know what i'm saying so like he used to just be on that like what rick
ross would be like man this nigg rick ross i just called that and he just brought half of the
fucking his hood he got this that that so next used to be like we got to buy this shit up hoggy
We gotta buy all this shit up.
And so like with the shop and all that, Nip was pushing and grinding.
His brother was really like on the shop and like got the tables on sloths and crinshaw.
Like selling shirts off the table.
And then like Nip like the grinder.
He was like the homie like running a bag up doing this shit like that and Black Sam, he
getting the money and he's showing us like the business side of it like yeah, nigga, y'all
better stack.
Right.
Because I just stacked all my money.
I didn't spend a dollar.
How much y'all got?
We got 10,000.
He's like, yeah, I got 300,000.
What's up?
I'm like, all right, nigga, whatever.
So you guys, like, quickly got into that mentality
or really, like, legally hustling as opposed to the shit that you were on when you were younger.
Right.
It was just like, oh, that's time to take to the next level.
It was always, like, level up, level up, level up,
you know what I'm saying?
Like, all right, we're right here.
Let's take it there.
Right.
That's what's up.
Did it ever, like,
Like nowadays, when people talk about Nib and his legacy, as part of what they say is they either say it was so respectable and so cool that he opened those businesses right in his neighborhood.
But then other people will take the position of like it was kind of foolish to be trying to start businesses right in the hood like that.
Was that ever a conversation?
Like maybe this is very, very dangerous.
Maybe this is so dangerous as the kind of shit that I shouldn't even do is just being on the block in a spot like this.
Well, yeah, we know it was dangerous, but it's like everything we do dangerous.
Walking out the house, dangerous.
You know what I'm saying?
Getting in your car, that's dangerous.
So it's like, fuck it.
Might as well do something.
And I remember just like, yeah, we did have commos.
I was like, I'm like, damn, bro, this shit getting big.
To the point, we got to expand and shit.
Like, we got to hit merrows and shit, hustle.
Like, it's cool.
Let's keep this shit on autopilot, but let's also get on and do other shit.
You know what I'm saying?
like because it got to a point like I'm like brother shame it's safe like it's the hood so we
safe it's our hood we feel comfortable here more than any place but it still got tricky like
enemies coming through just trying to do little dumb-ass shit yeah just like police hating on us
swarming up I'm like bro this shit getting to the point where they just trying to take a nigga
down for nothing we fucking around and catch a cage just standing here and no doing nothing
Because at the end of the day, it's like when you're a millionaire and you got a spot in the hood, you all of a sudden are a big fucking target when there ain't other millionaires around, you know?
But nipples on some shit, like just trying to show these young niggas like, bro, a millionaire out the hood.
We still right here in the hood with the millions.
You know what I'm saying?
And I love that idea, but it's just so sad.
He had to, like, lose his life really trying to, like, show a young nigga like, this the way.
Yeah, but when you look at that, is that a risk that you wish that he didn't take?
I mean, I love that he, like, just went out for, like, where he really bullied and, like,
he really was trying to, like, do some other shit, get the blocks going, show young niggas.
So it was like, I love that he just went out how he did, but hell yeah, I mean, I wish he
could have took that shit back.
Hell yeah, I wish he was with me that day or anything else, like, it wasn't his time, you
know what I'm saying?
I know he did a lot before he got on, but I'm like, hey, I wish he was with him.
Hell no, it wasn't this time.
How'd you find out?
Man, somebody called my phone and, you know, I don't answer the phone.
I don't really talk to you every day.
I'm not going to answer.
So I'm just not even worrying about it because I see like an off-brand number.
I don't even know that number.
So after that, my phone, now I start to ring.
I'm like, how the fuck I got 300 missed calls?
five minutes
it scared me
I didn't know what the fuck was going on
like what the fuck is this
I didn't even want to call nobody back
because I'm like I ain't never in my life
had no 300 missed calls
and two minutes
your phone got hacked or something
it was right
I'm like what the fuck is this
so now I'm looking
but everybody that's calling me
it's like
I'm seeing like
these people that I really
you know what I'm saying
talk to
and so they're like
bro
when I first out
bro
What's up with him?
I'm like, he good, what's up?
Man, call him, man.
I just heard he got shot or some shit.
I'm like, huh?
All right, let me call him.
You know what I'm saying?
So I call him no answer.
I'm just like, damn.
The fuck did Nick get shot?
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, this can't.
I mean, I'm like, I don't know what the fuck going on.
So I'm calling him, call him, nobody answering.
And so I'm like,
I'm just chilling, so I'm like, man, who can I call that I even care that I don't even want to talk to nobody right now.
Y'all are talking this type of shit.
I need to call somebody I really love and got love for like.
So I'm thinking, I'm like, man, let me call Kabi.
So I get on the phone call Kabi.
He like, bro what up?
I'm like, man, what the fuck this nigga's talking about?
He's like, bro, I'm leaving.
I'm on my way over there right now.
I don't know.
What the fuck a nigga's talking about?
I'm like, bro, these niggas talk about nip, shot up and shit.
They're like, man, I heard the same shit, but he good.
I'm like, all right, cool, get up there, go see what's up.
Because at the time, I'm out of town.
I just talked to him, like, the night before.
And when you hear about somebody getting shot, that's all you want,
is somebody to be like, he's going to be all right.
Come on, man, that's all I wanted to hear.
But I'm thinking to myself, this nip, of course he's going to be all right.
Like, I didn't look at nip like a god.
Like, you damn there can't even touch nip.
So, like, me being gone, I'm down there, feel like he's safe.
Like, you already got this shit figured out.
You know what I'm saying?
Niggas, like, us still got to watch it.
You know what I'm saying?
You don't think Nip, after taking it through.
Like, you know how much shit we went through, bro, to go through all that shit
to end our shit like this, like some weird shit.
So it was just like, yeah.
What did you do?
You rushed there?
Yeah, I'm out of town.
I was like in Dallas somewhere.
So when I get the call, they just like, nip, shout, whoop.
I ain't even handle my business that I had to handle out there.
But it was to the point, like, man, fuck this shit.
Let me get back.
So it makes me getting back, getting on the plane and shit.
They talk about nip thing got hit like this.
They saying it's ugly and all.
I'm like, bro, y'all tripping.
I'm on my way.
As I'm getting here, I'm hearing and shit.
Like, what?
This shit, y'all niggis tripping.
y'all man
there was like a couple hours maybe
that people didn't know that he passed
right right or whatever
and then I get on the plane
so I'm flying I ain't really paying attention
to like what's going on
about the time I get here
you know everybody
flying and shit
and just like telling me what's going on
so I'm like damn
you know what I mean
so man like once you
like once you figured it out though like
how did you there's this one like
clip of you that's on
you too and it says that it's like right after you pass and it's just you it says like violently
driving through Los Angeles but it's just you just sort of just blast it around LA and just it just
seems like you almost don't even know what the fuck to say or how to feel in that moment.
Probably so I don't know what the fuck I was doing.
Right. Probably was speed I don't know.
You just like in that moment it's like where does your energy go?
Right. How do you deal with these emotions? Right. It was just like
It got thirsty.
I'm ready like, that was a thirsty moment
because I'm like, let's take it there.
I'm just like, let's go.
Whatever the fuck, whatever happened.
I'm like, this nigga nip dead.
I'm ready to go out too.
Like, this nip we're talking about.
This ain't just like any homie.
Like, bro, you're about to die about this shit.
See what I'm saying?
Then when I'm starting to hear stories and shit,
I'm just like, man, this shit so crazy, bro.
Yeah, did it take you a little while to figure out what happened?
Yeah, it just was like, it was just weird.
I'm just like, what, huh?
Man, what the fuck?
Like, what the fuck?
And how the fuck?
How the fuck these nink even get close to that?
I was just so lost.
Like, because, oh, what the fuck?
Where are you at?
Like, you know what I'm on my one too,
trying to handle my business and has a man get to my own bag.
You know what I'm saying?
So I'm on my shit.
I'm gone.
I ain't even.
in that life when that shit happened.
So, yeah.
Was it the kind of situation that you could have possibly seen coming in terms of the,
there being tension?
Because, you know, when it's known in a neighborhood that somebody snitched or whatever,
it's a conversation that's going around.
So is this something that you could in any way predicted have ever been a conflict?
Or is it just, it was totally out of left field?
Because the main thing that always stood out to me is that this is just like a regular-ass dude
who realistically,
probably shouldn't even, it isn't even on the level even talking a nip like that, right?
I mean, well, it's like, we all know the dude.
Like, he grew up with everybody.
Like, we knew him from way back.
Right.
So it wasn't on mystery.
Like, he used to handle his business, do his little shit, you know what I'm saying,
here and there so everybody knew about him.
But then, like, some shit came up one time and they, like, and we think he's snitching or
some shit.
It was just like, huh?
everybody in jail and shit and he wasn't.
It was just got to the point where, you know, people just start saying like, man, the
nigger went bad.
You know what I'm saying?
But like, he disappeared, so it was like nobody really seen him.
And then he started like popping back up.
You know what I'm saying?
And it's like people knowing from the neighborhood.
So I don't know if when it's snitch Jaggers, some people just, like, we still know you or I don't
know how it went.
But he started popping back up and shit like that.
And yeah, this type of shit out, man.
Right.
That's crazy.
Yeah, because, like, it feels like there's been sort of like a conversation about that that's happened recently in terms of, like, you know, I mean, let's just be straight up.
It was about that phone call that got leaked to whack where whack was basically saying that this is just how these things play out.
All right.
What was that?
You don't know whack.
What was that?
Not a fan, I'm guessing.
A fan?
Well, you did have some words.
to say on Twitter about people in general who were speaking on the situation in a way you thought was disrespectful, right?
Oh yeah, niggas just like y'all niggas clowns.
Like, what the fuck is y'all doing?
Right.
Like, for one, if you know hustle, you know, he don't do disrespectful shit.
So it's like, y'all niggas being disrespectful.
Oh, the nigger, whack.
The clown nigga.
Oh, okay.
He's from the valley somewhere.
That nigga not from L.A.?
Y'all nigga, what?
So I'm like, when I seen it, like, bro.
First of all, you're talking about the real one.
Who are you?
Niggas don't even...
You're from the Valley.
And for one,
why you talking about Crip business?
Ain't you a blood?
Go talk about some blood shit,
nigga?
This ain't the Valley, nigga?
This L.A.?
Like, man, you're out of pocket.
He has some other things to say on the podcast, too,
where he was basically...
He was commenting about there being a lot of fake love.
Like, radio stations playing Nipsey now.
They never played him before.
He said some shit about how Nip had never been on a world tour,
which I believe was disproven later on.
It's like, what you talking for?
Naked shit your bitch ass, sir.
Like, why are you talking about Nip?
My thing is this like,
you didn't tell Nip this shit when he was here, you're a bitch.
So you had all day to tell Nip how you felt.
You wait to this nigger die
to tell him how you feel you's the whole.
Period.
We don't move like that.
If Nip had a problem with her, he's going to tell him.
He ain't going to wait to the nigger daughter like,
oh, whack.
And that's why it's like y'all nigg's bitches,
because Nip don't do that shit.
If Wack were the daughter
or some shit like that,
he would have had nothing to say,
like, man, God bless the nigga on hood.
Y'all niggas talking and making conversations
about hustle?
All right.
Cool.
Do you, the same, like,
related all to our podcast
was kind of the issue,
people thinking it was offensive
that Blueface didn't post saying RIP
and then WAC kind of explained
on the podcast that there was tension
between different hoods in L.A.
and that from Blueface's perspective,
it wasn't really going to be looked at,
like, he should say that.
I mean, it wasn't like,
ain't nobody mad at Blueface
for, like, not putting the homie up
because it's like, we are, like, rival gang,
like, they hood down there, our hood down there,
and don't get along.
You know what I'm saying?
So, the thing, I ain't mad for him
for not, like, acknowledging it,
but it's like, I just think if he would have died
and Nip was here, he would have said,
damn, Resident, please, Blueface or something.
So it's like, pay some crick respect, you know,
I'm saying, it's a legend.
It's an LA, you bang LA, right?
So even though a nigger did, it's like, you got blood niggas, bro.
It's blood beef.
You got blood saying RIP NEP.
So how another Crip came, you know what I'm saying?
Right.
It is what it is.
Yeah, I mean, it's weird because it's not like, I don't feel like that many people
were that interest in it, but the people who were interested in it were really trying to figure
that shit out.
But yeah, I mean, from that perspective, it's like, it feels like when a rap legend, like, as
a hip hop fan, you should to certain extent be able to put the politics aside and say, all right,
rest in peace to a legend in hip hop, regardless of any kind of street shit, right?
Some niggas might worry about the politics of their homie.
Or you just told Nip, RIP, you know what I'm saying?
Some nigga might get pressed for that.
Like not being a man about it like, yeah, a nigga, I think of a legend, I'll fuck
will cut.
Some niggas care about that, you know, it's still hood politics in this shit.
So, and they'll tell them how it went, you know what I'm saying?
I can't say he wrong for not putting up no shit.
you know what I mean
when
when BG knockout
said that Eric Holder
was originally
signed in Nipsey
was that
was there no truth to that
BG knockout
oh
what was that
not a fan of him either
I don't know
I mean
is he from my
where are you from
I don't know
I don't know BG knockout
okay
no Eric was not signed to us
no truth of that
no
okay
no sustain
okay
has there been a lot
like do you read a lot of
like
do you read a lot of
in terms of like how all the news came out that just strikes you as like, damn, motherfuckers
are really talking about like all kinds of weird untrue shit coming up.
Yeah, like getting in tall, like, just I'll be on some like, I don't just do what you do.
You run into niggas, you know what I'm saying, it is what it is.
I'm not about to go back and forth and what would y'all say?
Hell no, man, we don't do that.
You know what I'm saying?
That ain't our cloth.
We don't, like, hell no, we don't even talk, bro.
Like, what the fuck you niggas talking for like girls?
That's what girls do.
We don't do that shit.
We just chill.
We see you.
We hammer our business.
Has it been overall though?
Has it been like a very positive thing for you to see the extent to which Nip has been memorializing everything?
Because there's a certain extent to when somebody's alive that you don't really know how legendary they are.
Right.
And then they pass.
And then all of a sudden you realize like, wow, this is, this was bigger than we ever really knew.
For sure.
Like, it's like, it's crazy.
Like, yeah.
I'm saying?
Obama and wrote this niggard letters and shit.
Like it was a movie, but I'm like, it was just so fucked up that this had to be the reason.
I wish this nigga was here to see all these grammar nominations and all that shit.
It's fucked up.
He worked so hard to get it to that level to go out.
When this shit, it was just about to go crazy for him, for sure, because he took the long route.
He didn't go.
Let me go sign to an artist real quick.
No.
doing that. So when all these artists want to jump in and sign him, he's like, no. So it took
him a little longer. It's going to take you longer when you do that route. He took his time,
did it. And then he's, yeah, he was just about to take it. Man, nipples on some shit, bro.
He was on some shit right now. So it's crazy. He ain't even get to see this shit like,
you know what I'm saying, do what it really was supposed to do.
Yeah, that's facts. Did you feel some type of way, well, you did feel some type of way about
the game situation? Has that been squared?
way or you still feel some type of way about game using, what was the name? Prolific.
Oh, yeah, just like, game, you cool. Like, you know what I'm saying? You're a clown to.
For one, nigger, prolific, they start, oh, everybody pro name and who owns this name. Man,
shut the fuck up. Y'all, first off, y'all know who got this shit cracking. So, Prolific
anything, bro, what the fuck? That's like us trying to say,
documentary records, some crazy weird old shit like that.
And like, no, we're not gonna do that.
But like, I remember Nip, he respected game for like taking them on his, like, first tour.
So Nip had respect for that.
And it's like, all right, that's cool in all game.
But all this cloud, man, you posting a homie every day, bro, don't you goddamn, homies.
Go post them.
Like, you posting a homie.
I don't even want to see this.
every day, like, I'm already dealing with enough.
Like, bro, you ain't even a homie like that.
What is you doing?
Right.
And then it's like, for this to be your manager and all this crazy shit, bro, you condoning it?
You was a weird old, nigger.
Period.
What the fuck is you?
Bro, that's like hoggy doing some shit.
If I'm doing some shit, Nip condoning it.
Because I'm not going to do nothing that Nip tell me not to do.
If Nip said, Hoggy, leave that long.
I'm done.
So they're like, if y'all niggas connected like that, how is this thing
doing this clown shit and you approving it or you ain't got no say so?
It is what it is.
Yeah.
Well, man, I mean, I guess this weren't getting to the last issue of somebody saying something
disrespectful though.
How did you feel about that Kodak thing early on?
Man, it's like Kodak, nah.
These niggas, young niggas, bro.
They ain't probably even me in a disrespectful way.
and you just be talking high.
I don't even be listening.
Because my thing is this, like, I'm so connected with Nip.
Like, if I were to ask cuz about to hear them like,
I don't worry about that clown-ass shit hard.
So that's what I'm on now.
I already know what he would say.
I don't even feed into that shit.
Right.
If you feel some tell you, how do you're bending when you see it?
Don't feed into that shit.
Especially it's just relating back to his girl seemed particularly egregious.
Like, how are you gonna at all?
I'll bring her into it.
I mean, I'm in disrespect.
But y'all know what's up.
I can't talk to Warren.
I'm tripping behind Lauren.
Right.
Like, you know, what, forever?
No, she's good for life.
You still talk to her?
Every day.
Just talk to her.
Is that, I mean, I can't even imagine, like,
everybody, all his homies is one thing, because, let's be real, like, if you kind of grew up in that lifestyle,
you probably lost a lot of people.
And also, it's just different when you're like his woman, you know?
That's, right.
I can't even imagine her perspective.
That's crazy, bro.
I'd be just.
I only would like to see her because every time I see her, I see you see them
I'm saying.
So every time I go to their house, see the baby and shit, I think of hustle.
So it'd be making me emotional.
I'd be like, damn, sis, much as I'd be wanting to see you every day, I'd down there
can't.
All I think about is like all the fun times we had and shit, you know what I'm saying.
It's so crazy too just because they were just sort of starting to do a lot of the, like
the GQ video and all of them.
Yeah, it was taking it there.
You know of like really putting their relationship on Front Street.
and like letting that be like that was motivational to a lot of people to just see two people
that far ahead in life just putting their love affair out there you know sure for sure yeah
that was taking it to another level how long did it fuck you up in the head so bad you couldn't even
like record music and shit shit i'm still fucked up in the head and it ain't over that shit ain't
that's gonna never be over like you know what I'm saying like how this my everyday homie
every day like you know what I'm saying you got every day on me yeah how long you been with them
every day.
Shit, actually, no, I don't know none of these motherfuckers like that.
That's what I'm saying.
This one of them, like, from 13 to now, then I lose that.
Yeah.
Like, in this world, you don't even find, you don't really find people that you even
could fuck with every day.
Like, that's so hard to find.
Like, because people not going to really be on your speed or what you want.
So it's like, you cool, but not every day all day.
I was a dis-nicker every day.
Sleep, studio, back to that.
how I shower back on our mission every day.
See what I'm saying?
Unless it's like some business we got to handle other than that.
A lot of people aren't good at being a good soldier,
like fucking seeing the operation at hand and knowing how to support that.
Because when you got somebody like Nipsey,
it's like his ideas were so big and his motivation was so big that it's kind of like
he's not going to be able to have somebody around him unless they're helping him to
fulfill this shit and make other shit happen.
going on and he already knew Hoggy. See, I'm just an all-around person. Like, we're getting
a fight. I'm there to fight. It's a business shit, Jay calling and need this shit. I'm
on that too. So it was like, it was like we was just all around homies. Same with Nip. I might
need him on some regular shit. Hey, Nip, the car broke down. Here I'm about to pull up.
On to whatever it is. You see what I'm saying? So it was just like, oh, we're homies like that.
My mama love her. I love her mama, granny, all that. You know what I'm saying?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Do you feel like L.A. has changed primarily from it?
Like, you still feel it.
Hell, yeah.
It was undeniable at first.
But now I still feel like you feel it in the air.
You still hear people talk about it.
Yeah, bro, this shit.
Ireland.
Man, the kids fucked up.
They don't really even, no, they fucked us.
I'm like, I feel y'all.
Hell, yeah, we lost nip.
That nigger was just, he wasn't really like,
he was really giving L.A. some shit.
He wasn't taken away from me.
you know what I mean so it's like we lost a real LA motherfucker when somebody dies who just
their only contribution to the culture seems so positive right so you know just feel so wrong
to be taken from the world right right yeah that's crazy so uh yeah how have you like managed to
to continue to do shit and stuff at this point you've done songs and videos and shit like that like what
it take for you to even be able to put yourself out like that like that again
Well, it was on some shit like sitting back, sad and shit ready to just end it and just go
all the way out wherever we need to go.
But it was on some shit like, damn, Nick, tell me what to do real quick, bro.
Before I just like do the wrong mood that you don't even want me to do.
So I'm kind of like just trying to vibe with bro, like, what the fuck what he told me right
now in this situation?
And it was more like, go up, nika.
Get these millions, niggas.
Take care of everything.
You need to take care and handle your business.
Do whatever you got to do.
Make sure you still good.
So it was like, that just gave me the motivation.
Like, all right, Hall, it's time to take it to a whole other level.
Been in studio every day.
I'm recording like two songs a day for the last.
I don't know.
Going up, shooting videos.
Got the merch coming.
You know what I'm going to drop my album top of the year, 2020.
That's what so.
single about to come out you know i'm saying i've been with a little baby thug gunna yeah i seen
you with uh baby and gunna in the hood huh showing too much love where was that at you're doing video
was that a video which one though i just seen a shot of you like posted up like there's some
buildings with gunna and baby right we was in the hood i don't know we might have been in the studio
in the hood somewhere is out here somewhere but did you know them before knit pass or is that kind
like a new connection.
No, that's shit old.
Oh, like, I know baby before they blew up, gunna, thug, all that, like, we been tapped
in the street, so it's just like, when this shit happened, it was just more.
So like, they didn't know like, fuck.
Look what just happened to Hargey.
Like, you gotta like tap in with cousin, make sure he's straight.
My young thug, I say baby gunna, YG, them niggas been holding it down, like, oh, whatever
you need, call me.
You need firsts, whatever.
whatever studio called me so that niggas me you know what I'm saying James
Hardin keeping it oh word thousand also oh that's what's so what was your
relationship with Grito Grito did you know Grito like were you close with him
at all not close oh okay I knew him like he from like um Grave Street right yeah
Watts so like one of our homies from Grave Street that's like his little
on me. You know what I'm saying? You know, niggas be looking up to nip tapping in with nip.
So they'd be bh, what you on, man. Do some music and tap in. You never really got to do nothing,
but it was cool. Him and nip never really, did they meet or did they work together at home?
Yeah, they had to meet. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Like, for sure. I don't know if they
did no records. They might have got some shit in. We would probably know if they did. Right.
Yeah, I don't think so. Yeah. Crazy. So yeah, in terms of new shit, you just
focus on this album like you got anything else that you've been uh trying to focus on at this
point yep i just been focused on like uh you know the album and shit like if i'm gonna take any
deals what the fuck i'm kind of like nah we got to do it the hustle way just waded out get
our own money put our own album out unless the right deal come along j somebody say hey hoggy
hey hey bit good boy we got some yeah i'm like all right let's go are they
planning like a nip album like of his unreleased shit probably so I don't really be in
that like I mean they always do it but I haven't really heard about it I don't know what the
hell they doing I'm saying I got him on my album some shit I never released a video we shot the
video also morally saw all that shit when the album come out so y'all can really see what we was on
for sure we've talked a bit about people doing weird shit in his passing and like
like, you know, maybe being kind of extra corny with how they go about paying tribute to
them.
But, like, from your perspective, how do you want to see him remember?
Like, what is the right way for people to pay the respect?
When I hit niggas up, like, bro, what the fuck is y'all doing?
Like, they putting up pitches in that.
Bro, that ain't showing the homie you love him, nigga?
Oh, put a post every week.
And all right?
Bro.
So that's love?
You see what I'm that?
Is that how you show love putting a post every week?
Just so happens to be the way that's going to get everybody.
to see it.
Your wife or whoever you got, you put a poster every week that show your love?
No.
Pulling up on nip's son, seeing that nigger's straight, clothes, private school,
Lauren is you straight, hoggy woo-wook.
Niggins, I'm showing love to nip, you know what I'm saying?
Man, on a fucking post-air-a-day, what is that doing?
That's like getting you publicity, niggins, I ain't helping nip.
You putting a picture up?
Oh, my man, scat.
It's like a way of showing respect.
but it just so happens to be the way that also, like, lets you flex for the gram.
It's the easiest way.
It takes you two seconds to put up a photo.
It don't cost no money or whatever.
But that's why it's not really so meaningful, right?
That ain't how we show up.
Instagram and shit.
That ain't hustle about doing that.
I'm like, y'all nays clowns.
Right.
Go pull up on Lauren and see if she need a new purse.
Some rent money.
Some, nigger, y'all talking about an Instagram post.
That ain't it.
Maybe I'm tripping
I don't know
I show a lot of different
Yeah
I hear you
Well shit man
Appreciate you coming in
Dope conversation
And uh
It was an honor to be honest
Had Jay Stone in here
Have you on
We're getting a whole lot of good
perspectives on this fucking
Crazy-ass time period
I appreciate you for having us
Yeah man
BH
Instagram's on the screen
Everybody at home
Go fuck with my dude
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