No Jumper - Big Folks & Bandman Kevo on 16ShotEm Beef, Chicago Politics, Baby Mama Drama & More

Episode Date: July 24, 2022

Flakko coming through with the messiness, bringing Kevo and his manager Big Folks to give their side of the whole 16 beef, their perspectives on Chicago rappers, politics, BBL, and much more! ----- 0...0:00 Intro 2:01 Got plugged with the GDs in 1993 2:58 Beating a double m*rder case at 18, sh*t his kidnappers in the head 6:30 Folks got sh*t 6 times in 2006, being fat literally saved his life 11:15 Lil Mouse was one of the first artists Folks worked with 14:13 Did Slim Jesus take Lil Mouse shine? Lil Mouse x Slim Jesus beef 17:10 Folks was super close with Zacktv, says he wasn't from Chicago and made the mistakes of choosing sides, warns Billy Kauck to watch his step 23:10 Folks confirms that Rick Ross has stolen Birdman's whole persona 26:57 A group of Mexican ran down to the tour bus and stabbed Nipsey's right-hand man 29:58 Drake and Future, were never scared to come to the hood, Drake pulled up without security 30:29 Meek says he wanna go to Durk's hood, Durk says "at your own risk" 32:25 Folks said he was entertained by the Flakko 16 interview, Kevo calls him a P again 36:36 Folks is the one who said 16 can't go to Chicago 36:54 It all started on IG live with Kevo and 16 41:50 Folks says 16 is obsessed with Kevo, and his ex-girlfriend wanted to plot on Kevo 43:00 Kevo says he used her while he was locked up to hold him down but she was nothing else, says he married her as a favor 49:18 Kevo says she went on Say Cheese to expose him because he didn't wanna be with her anymore 51:20 Folks says Rooga allegedly called him to distance himself from 16 53:00 Kevo on the BBL accusation 55:30 Kevo calls 16 a T 1:01:46 Kevo tries to explain that he never paid vlogs to post dirt on 16 1:06:30 Only Fans scamming allegations 1:08:20 Kevo relationship with Miko 1:10:25 Kevo smashing Kayla Nicole, says it is ancient history 1:19:02 Is TeeJay6x still tryna scam people? 1:22:39 Folks says he didn't know Rooga was a GD 1:23:46 Folks says Kanye is a real GD 1:25:18 Durk's dad did 30 years for not snitching 1:34:05 Folks connected to BMF 1:34:09 Kevo and Folks pull out 16 personal information and alleged cases 1:43:20 Kevo and Folks say they will never make amends with 16 1:45:41 Folks brings a couple of his artists 1:51:36 Folks reacts to Ch. White and 600 Brizzy situation ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! nojumper.com SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, let's do it. Yo, welcome back. No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world, man. We're with big folks, and then we're with Money Gang, right? Money Man hit. Money Man, man, listen. So first off, man, y'all probably came for all that goofy shit. We're going to get to that goofy shit towards the end, right?
Starting point is 00:00:17 But, yo. Now, we ain't flat where y'all are you for those goofy shit? Yeah. I could have just set the kite for that. You know what I'm saying? We've got to do all that for that. Yeah, right. But, you know, like, the goal of this, man, was to definitely dive deep, like, dive deeper
Starting point is 00:00:29 into who big folks is, you feel I'm gonna get all that goofy shit with the, you know, with the whole low, you know, spitting, nigga. Yeah, right? Not, that's the same. It's pedophile, man. Not gonna spit, niggins. Towards the end, right?
Starting point is 00:00:40 Talk about them in a minute. So first off, man, who's big folks? Like, where are you from? I'm from the south side of Chicago, the low end. You know what I'm saying? The projects, I come from the days where the project buildings were still standing up.
Starting point is 00:00:52 And that's why I come from. Now, growing up in Chicago, how was it like? Shit, it was just like, to me, I've been a lot. all around. So it's like to me, it's just like any other like hood places is what you involve yourself with or allow yourself to get involved with. But it's always been treacherous and dangerous. It's always been, it's always been that element. It's not a new element because the drill scene came or Nicky Starwin dreads. It was way dangerous before then.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Of course. Now, when did you hop off the porch? Shit, 13. Probably before then, I was a bad-ass little kids and I know my niggas that went to grammar school because I only went to grammar school. Yeah. So I know they probably look like, man, this nigga was horrible. You know what I'm saying? We're all through graphic school. But then it's like I jumped off the porch. I said I got plugged and blessed to be in the, well, you know, say what we were proud of
Starting point is 00:01:37 when I was 13, so that's 1993. Well, how did that happen, though? How did a 13 year old get plugged in? Because my neighborhood, I was just, like, basically I was born in. My neighborhood, when I was born, where we lived at, shit, that's what we was around there. And it's just like, I was so bad as a shorty,
Starting point is 00:01:52 the older niggas that was around there, that it was the monsters, they just took a liking to me. I was one of the shorties. They just wanted to teach certain things. to me wait so like okay so when did you I guess like be you know like get involved with the GDs 1993 when I was 13 I got plugged that I mean I got blessed I took I really stood in the 360 I ain't just come out and say on folks and all that and matter of fact I'm not one of the folks I'm a gangster got
Starting point is 00:02:18 because I'm a man before I'm anything I never been one of the folks yeah like nowadays like people get jumped into the like like in the gangs right was that LA shit anyway you know what I know No, they're gonna jump in the motherfucking game. You're just in Chicago. No, you get a violation where you do something goofy. Like, I used to see goofy shit like motherfuckers to laugh out of turn or something get hit dead in their mouth. They only get their teeth knocked out.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Man. And I used to be a shorty, so I used to be laughing and shit. But I was a highly favorite shorty, so they used to be letting me fast. Here, right, so now you were, now I would imagine, hopping off the porch of getting blessed in that 13 years old. You probably got into some wild shit, like growing up. So I think you got shot at, no, you beat a double homicide, a double murder at 18 years old? Yeah, I was, I called it when I was 17. I was getting ready to turn 18.
Starting point is 00:03:08 And I caught that, you know, being in this shit, serving in the building and the shit, motherfuckers came through that bitch on some goofy shit, tried to kidnap me, basically. But they just didn't know I had a gun on me. Because, you know, the police to ride past and make us raise our shirts or raise our urns to see if motherfuckers had bank because they was lazy. All the time I had the motherfuckers used to be happy to take them. to my wrist and my jacket, my hoodie and shit. So the niggas came and tried to kidnap me get down.
Starting point is 00:03:32 I mean, they, you know what I'm saying? They threw me in the backseat. The collar was weird, but the passenger was turked around with his bang and just talking crazy and what they was going to do to me. It took me way from out south, way to out west. I was just trying to see what they was on because I was really trying to spit their ass. But then, like, when they try to pull in the dog alley and get to talking about money and this and that and shit, hammer time, shit.
Starting point is 00:03:52 One guy shot in the head five times, the other got shot in the head three times. and they got, they got out, my case was popping in the law library because my lawyer shout out to Tommy Brewer. He had a chief judge in Chicago now. He was my defense attorney and he went in the law library my shit in the law library because I beat,
Starting point is 00:04:10 I was one of the first people to beat double homicide self-defense and shot the people behind the temple. Yo, that's how you know you have money, because, like that lawyer sounds, that lawyer sounds like he was tremendous. He was a chief judge right now? Yeah, he's a chief judge.
Starting point is 00:04:26 right now. Now, were these dudes, like guys you were already in the with or how they- Yeah, no, these were some old niggins. That's why I hate that I'm getting a little old. I'm 42, but these niggas at the time, I was 17, they was like, one on was 38 and one on was like 39. They had just, they had, in my trial, because I didn't really have no witnesses. I had a circumstantial witness who was the dude little bitch told them that they brought
Starting point is 00:04:48 some work for me and the work went right, so they was trying to get back up with me and all that. So that's how I even got involved. And then when the murder happened, my gun, with, you know, I was, you know, I was, you When it happened, the car crashed and my gun got slipped in there, and I got up out of that. So they had my bang with my fingerprints on it, so I couldn't deny the shit.
Starting point is 00:05:04 So I just had to stand on that shit, blow you up. And still tall. Yeah, it's still tall. I had to stand on trial and everything. What occurred, I mean, what I look back on is like, damn, I was 18, and I got on that stand. And I had to stand up and tell them people, yeah, I killed them people.
Starting point is 00:05:21 And yeah, this is why. And I had to make them people stand on it believe me or whatever or feel me and they did. Nah, man, bro. Shout out to them jurors. I never, I knew. I had seven black females. Shout out to Simon Brew.
Starting point is 00:05:33 He was a genius with this shit. You gotta know what you're doing. He got to be seven black, motherly figures. They was like in their 30s. You know, they're from the south side, Chicago, west side. So they understood what I was going through.
Starting point is 00:05:43 They understood that the old nigg was just, old niggas was jealous of what I was doing to try to get down on me and this and that. And it was like, that's what was happening. And I was just wasn't going. Now, when you say they were jealous of what you was doing, I mean, you probably had. You know, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:57 No, they had this came home from jail And I guess they felt like I wouldn't let them eat or something shit I was around that bitch, I just wanted to, you know I was, when I looked back So I probably was like a little greedy, I was like a little, I was way different. Like I was a little monster for real, for real,
Starting point is 00:06:13 before they even, any of this shit that had been real seen anything. I really was like that. Yeah. So it was like I was really on some hell no, the building, this building right here, all me all day. I wasn't sharing shit, to be honest. Which I learned lessons about that, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:06:25 And I grew up and I knew, you know what I did wrong, to even get myself in that situation, you know what I'm saying? Of course. Now, you got shot six times? Yep. But tell him about that. All right, well, that's fast forward to 06. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Well, my man, we was out here getting to it, man. You know what I'm saying? Just some Chicago shit. Motherfuckers tried to run in my man's career in his mom-in-um career. Who? My niggas shorty six. Some niggas ran into his mama career where we used to be doing shit at. Tide her and all his people were up in the crib and shit.
Starting point is 00:06:59 And I was on my way over. It was early in the morning, like nine in the morning. I was on my way over there. Go meet up, do my thing with a little bro. Yeah. And about the time I got to the crib and shit, you know, it was like a three flat building, so I'm downstairs ring the dough bill.
Starting point is 00:07:11 It was on third floor. I'm like, damn, the window open, nobody, the phone off the hook, nobody coming to the door. I just, I knew something was wrong, but my first man was the police in that bitch. So I was like, damn, I'm like, man, I don't hear nobody coming down the stairs. Then I heard some big ass, boom, boom, boom, boom,
Starting point is 00:07:25 was coming down and still. I'm like, damn, they got to be the fucking police. Soldiers. Yeah, I tried to turn around. Now, mind you, I got it on me because I used to keep it on the motherfucker, so I got it on me and everything. So I'm thinking like, damn, and I got some shit, you know what I said, some other shit on me, so I'm like, oh shit.
Starting point is 00:07:40 And I was, I had just bonded out for a bang of case, so I was, it was just going to be wild if that was them. You know what I'm saying? Like, damn. The doaks wing open, goddamn it. First thing I see is a Yankee hat and a bulletproof vest, gee. Automatically, I think detectors. Of course, police.
Starting point is 00:07:54 So I freeze. He's like, oh, then I look, when I, I'm focused, so I see the faces and I'm instantly, you know what I'm saying? But by then, by the time my shots are going off, and my motherfuckin try to shoot me in my face, because it was like, we was this close, you know what I'm saying? Wow. If I tried to shoot me in my face, I turned my head,
Starting point is 00:08:10 it shot me through my neck, it went in and out. I was way fat, though, bro. I was big as hell, so. I see. Yeah, my phone shot me through my neck, it went in and out of fat. They ain't shot me through my chest and all down my side.
Starting point is 00:08:20 So I ain't one right here in the middle of my chest, they ain't hit nothing of fat, I'm gonna start my side, then one in my side, then three down my leg. So I turned to the side, let him eat my side up. But when I did that, I had a little sig, soy, on me, I up that bitch and got the buses, so they were stuck between the front door
Starting point is 00:08:37 and the gate, you know what I said, to get out. My body, like, they had to get past me type of shit. So when the legs shot hit me, broke my femur bone, I fell down, but I ain't let them stare on top of me because you know in Chicago, they like to stare at top of you and do you. I ain't let them do that, because now they see that, I got the move,
Starting point is 00:08:52 but they think that I'm down, because the head shot, they try, hell, nah, boom, whoa, whoa, whoa. That the fucking go both of me, you know what I'm saying? Tearing their fucking vests up and shit. They running out the gate, boom, boom. Muckold, motherfucker had a chopper, took a chopper from upstairs and shit. Muckold fucking turned around with that chopper
Starting point is 00:09:06 and just got to letting that bitch loose at the building, but I'm so glad this goofy ass couldn't, wasn't like aiming to shoot down because I was shooting two. I had like a 20-something shot, boom-bo-win, I was letting every shell was gone, that that bitch shit clicked. And that nigga turned around,
Starting point is 00:09:18 shot that K out, it was just knocking chunks of the building off, like bricks of the building was just hitting me in the head, Like, oh shit, what the fuck? I was just praying one of the bitches ain't hit me, and it didn't. But I was just, I just felt like I was on fire.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Blood was coming from there. I just knew I had long dreads too, so I just knew hella blood was coming down my head, but it was my neck, thank the Lord. And then when I got to the hospital, you know what I'm saying? A motherfucker had told me like, man, if anybody ever made fun of you being fat, you tell him it saved your life.
Starting point is 00:09:46 So I'm here to tell Eric, motherfucker. When I was fat, that shit saved my life, motherfuckers. Like a bulletproof ass. Yo, so, oh wait, so like you're saying I shouldn't lose weight? I mean, no, lose weight, though. You die diabetes is some shit. You ain't going to shoot you.
Starting point is 00:10:00 You ain't going to live that type of life. Yo, here, right, because you walked in and said, damn, you're short as fuck. Yeah, you're a little motherfucker, man. But that would have been a good fight. Motherfucking spit on you. That's a little, that's a little motherfucking pedophile. You should have slapped the shit out of there.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Knocked the ass out. Here, right, so those guys who shot you, so, like, they were involved in the kidnapping of the legendary basketball, player Antoine Walker? I mean, that I don't, you know, I don't know, you know what I'm saying, I don't know what they was involved. I just know they tried to do me
Starting point is 00:10:30 and I ain't allowed them and I'll steele up, so you know, for the one steal that can see or if they're around, you know what I said? Of course. Now, what's your association with Antoine Walker? I don't fuck with no Antoine Walker. No? Hell, no. A goofy-ass basketball player, they used to get stuck up in Chicago. Really? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Now that he gets stuck up so many motherfucking times in Chicago. He was a walking lick for certain knickers, gee. Wait, he got stuck up after, like the fame, like after he got rich and came back? Yeah, he was doing the fame, after the fame, it was all type of shit motherfuckers, all type of shit happened to that man up there, gee. Yo, he should have paid
Starting point is 00:11:03 big folks then for, like, some... I was a short you then. I might have been one of the ones trying to get out on it, I was just fucking weird. Shout out, it's all walking, but yeah, you know he got robbed a lot up there, gee. Now, fast for a little bit, but how did you get into, like the music scene? Shit, I just used to be interested in music. I just liked that shit, then, you know?
Starting point is 00:11:21 My motherfucker with the bag shit, then niggas is around me rapping this shit. Like, let's do something type of shit. You know, motherfuckers get bored, you know what I'm playing with all this? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Let's try something, shit, yeah. And like who was the first artist you kind of put your money in? I'll say mouse, little mouse, because my first little endeavor was like on the fly.
Starting point is 00:11:41 We didn't know what we was doing. We were just doing some goofy shit trying to do. Me and my little homies, shout out the wheel, kill, Be Easy, Red Dog, my little homies, you know, I grew up with them. And we just tried to do something on some other things. shit but I ain't get serious and started really knowing how to vest bred and really move the chest pieces to a little mouse. Little Mouse. Now how did you get a little mouse to pop though?
Starting point is 00:12:01 Like what was the secret in the formula behind that? Well I mean he's shit shorty was hard so it's like what it was is my little bro from over there from 119th style 190 Maryberry my niggas you know what's saying all the guys now you know we were sitting at the table we used to have a little D land with me him and shot up top shot up. He used to do like seven eight thousand days I just started it up you know. You know what I'm saying? Like, boom, it's 2012.
Starting point is 00:12:23 We just started up the line. It's like the shadow controlling the line for me. So I'm more entwined with them now. I'm sitting at the table doing certain shit. So they in my ear. So a little bro, little Millie, who mouse used to always rap about this, a little driller. He'd always be like, he just sitting at the table with me one day like, like, man, listening to the little music.
Starting point is 00:12:40 And I'm like, who's that cheap keep? He's like, no, he's like, that's a little mouse from over there. And he was 12 at the town. I'm like, what are you rapping? Cheapkeeps songs? Y'all record? He's like, hell no. He's, he do this shit itself.
Starting point is 00:12:50 his shit. Yeah, I was like, man, what the fuck? And the whole time, I was jealous of a droat situation with Chief Keep like, damn, I know this thing, get that shit, I know we can get a snog out there. That was fuck off. Nah, because, like, I would imagine Lowell Mouse reminded you of yourself because you hopped off, you know, or got blessed in at, like, 13. That too. And he was a wild dude that, bro.
Starting point is 00:13:09 I remember seeing, seeing, like, Lowell Mouse and on TV for, like, terrorizing some young boy in, like, school. I was like, yeah, this kid, man. Hey, man. All that, all that bullshit and news clips and all that, that shit and all that shit came from Ramfess, goofy ass. You know, Kanye, your own boy? No.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Well, his name, Ramfest. He's a fucking lame-ass. Oh, Rimefest? Yeah, Rimefest. Yeah, okay. He's trying to be some political prisoner-ass type nigga, but his ass, goddamn,
Starting point is 00:13:33 had reported us to Mary Mitchell, this bitch on the news, and Mary Mitchell's like this politician, Chicago at the time or whatever, and they put us all on the news, talking about child abuse because what he was talking about. Then after that shit came,
Starting point is 00:13:46 or he was at school. His mom had to take him out to school, God damn, because now the kids at school, They're feeling threatened because he's there. Somebody older brother got killed in the neighborhood. The little boy was going into school with Mousse. They tried to come up with some crazy plan.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Because when people were in the hood, know you got money, it's like they're trying to attack him, motherfucker. Exactly. So they just tried to put some little smud on a little folks name, like he went up there and tried to basically scared a little boy that brother just got killed type shit. Like which we ain't, no one.
Starting point is 00:14:10 No one, I ain't fuck about that shit. Of course. Now what was Little Mouse, I guess, his first, like, taste of success, like the first song that, you know, like God again. The first song that he did. He ever recorded? ever wrote, the first song I ever took him to the studio,
Starting point is 00:14:23 he sat down, it was Get Smoke. Yeah. At that point, though, he was kind of rising and rising and rising, and then another guy came along called Slim Jesus. Now, first of all, do you feel like Slim Jesus kind of like took the Little Mouse flow and, like, Lil' sauce? What it was, gee. He could never take Little Vouse floor and sauce because Little Vals was really
Starting point is 00:14:41 come from that. He really did. But the little boy, what I seen, it was like an internet, it was not an internet industry plant type shit. Like, they felt like, they felt like we weren't. wasn't capitalizing enough off their drill scene, and they were seeing shit, so other people was like, you know what, let's just do it, let's do it the safe way.
Starting point is 00:14:57 They were trying to do a Disney route, like, well, maybe we could do this and bring the money, like basically what they did with $6.9, but they was trying to do it with slim. They was doing the goofie. They finally got it together, where somebody finally got together where they can just make a goofball,
Starting point is 00:15:08 look real, put some real niggas around them. Frank Block. Yeah, Frank Block him out. Six-9 shit. And I, you know, I was involved with it. And then when I seen Ken Yellow on them on there, it really blew me. At first we was gonna leave him alone,
Starting point is 00:15:19 but then, you know, I did the Zach shit. I made Zach pull up on me after he came back from out of town from doing that shit. And I just had to really tell their ass how I felt like that shit was like some real goofy shit. Because I know they couldn't see like I see or they would be in my position. Yeah, because they hopped on the remix to Drill Time. Now, was them hopping on a remix before, I guess, Slim Jesus responded back to the Low Mouse or was that after? No, it was kind of, let me see how that shit went.
Starting point is 00:15:47 I know he did Drill Time. And then Mous did a song called Kill Town. Yeah. Because in Chicago, all that drill shit, that shit is just talking about like some rappers shit and this and that. Because we got, no, we got killers. That motherfuckers are to hunt your ass down. Of course.
Starting point is 00:15:59 With no problem. Of course. So it's like, so he went Drill Town, we went Kill Town. Then I think that's when they went up there and kind of did the remix with him, which I felt like they was trying to put a Chicago stamp on them. Because the only way you could really get that drill stamp if you get one of our artists are really co-saying you will fuck with you. All the New York drill rappers and all that shit,
Starting point is 00:16:19 if you don't go fuck with a little dirk or a herb or one of these ones that's popping a PGF look doing these little new niggins, I mean, you don't got my stamps. I don't know about the other niggas that help start this shit, but, you know, I don't really, you know, you got to get one of our stamps because we don't even know what you're about.
Starting point is 00:16:34 You could be a motherfucker six-nine or Slim Jesus on us again. Of course. Why do you think Slim Jesus was so hated? Because the thing about it, like most of these rappers aren't really I are killing niggas or live in that life. Most of these nigs don't even come from that.
Starting point is 00:16:46 So why do you think Slim Jesus? Jesus was so hated, well, at that time, like, just by the world. Because, like, you know. Because everybody's seen the goofy-ass white boy trying to step in a real dangerous lane, and them thinking they was going to be able to control it. So when I did the interview, I just was wondering his mama, like, the only way that you really could really, really be honored in his real scene is when you really lost a lot of people close to you or you lost their own life. So which one he's going to do? Of course. Now, you spoke to having a Zach TV interview. So did you guys ever get, I guess, like, close or even cordial before his death?
Starting point is 00:17:17 Who's that? Yeah, that was my man's, boy. Wow, so how did you film when Zach TV got killed? Man, it hurt it. It was like, but it heard it, but it was just like, I know better.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Like I said, the city, happy change, you know. When you do certain shit, when you try to. But he's a blogger, though, man. Man, listen, that shit don't matter in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:17:34 You could be a blogger. I love it. Like the King Yellows, the DJUs and all that. I'm loving what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying? I'm ready to get in that shit because, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:44 it's okay to talk. I'd rather talk to motherfuck to shoot in each other. Billy Cox, goofy ass, had said something about Chicago, was turning to the Kardashians with all these new bloggers and all this goofy shit. Well, he had a white boy holding the camera with niggas and pointing guns at him,
Starting point is 00:17:57 and I guess that's what he'd get turned on about. He'd rather see us getting into it and killing each other stuff. Niggas just talking and blogging and all that. So, you know, to Billy Cox, he got to really watch his step because, you know, niggers ain't feeling that at all. Now, definitely. Now, why do you think Zach TV, like, got some hate?
Starting point is 00:18:14 Or why was he hated? I don't think he was hated. what he did he made a bunch of mistakes and he wasn't from Chicago like that you know he came from out of town a lot of people didn't know that nobody asked where he's so you know just some pop him up was just jumping on the bin wagon nobody knew what that man was from i think that man was from like brooklyn some motherfuckery well really is that to me yeah he wasn't from chicago he was from out of town some motherfucker well but that was my man's see and um all i think he did wrong was just like choosing sides and when you choose sats when you pick a side in Chicago
Starting point is 00:18:43 you better be damn sure to be ready to rap with that one side so it's like say if you were up there and you just over interviewing big folks you ain't never going to see what other niggas talking about the bdies the mows or lords or neutron niggins are just out there you just specifically just like on you know what I'm saying yeah motherfuckers might get like man what fam type of shit on you know what I'm saying he must be one of them and then if you fucking with me I might got enemies of course so it's like you just brought all my enemies nigga not so don't focus just on the one person when you a blogger uh-huh now Lord Dirk I think King Louis And Mouth at the time, you know, there was some conflict there, right?
Starting point is 00:19:19 How did you get them to do a song together? Oh, it wasn't no conflict with Mouss in that situation. Mouse is kind of like, of course, of course. It was kind of like, you know what I'm saying? The little homie. Now, Mouse wasn't the little homie. Oh, no. We're in the position of power in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Okay. Because you got to understand, Dirk and Louie and the people, the Moodoo niggas and the O'T was into it or had whatever little beef they had going on at the time. And all I simply asked was two friends, which was Dirk and Louie because y'all come sit down in the hollet so we could go make this money off these. tours these motherfuckers trying to give us. And they're not going to do it unless all us
Starting point is 00:19:50 signing off. Certain motherfuckers in Chicago, the real drill scene motherfuckers. It was big money on the table. And they all know, and we left that money on the table because we couldn't get past the first show. I think it was in Indiana somewhere. They got into it, and the people snatched that money off the table. Like, hell no. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:20:06 Of course. So, okay, so how did you in Lowell-Mouse, I guess, how did that, like, working relationship end? Because you, bro, you did a lot for him. So how did... That's like, I just said like this. He was like a son to me. You know what I'm saying? And he still is. Like, I just had, you know, like, he wanted to go do it.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Like, he had too many people in his ear. That's exactly what happened. Too many people that was in his ear that ain't had nothing to do with our business. So it was like, it was confusing. You got to remember he was young. And he was going hard, too. He was up next for the biggest deal in Chicago at the Chief Keep. We was knowing that.
Starting point is 00:20:35 They told me just get him to be 16. It's over with it. Of course. I don't even say from three major labels. Everybody know Birdman, of course. Oh, why Burman was interested. What? Speak with it.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Man, that's my best. It's like he was ready. But what happened at the time, him and Lil Wayne was there and having conflict behind closed doors and people didn't know that already. We were some of the first people to know that. The Birdman came. He brought us to Miami, flew us straight out.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Now the conflict between that had happened was Birdman wanted to sign mouse, but Little Wayne wanted to sign mouse. Wow. So it's like Lil Wayne's position was, you know, we started at MacMaine. Like, you know what the fuck? Like what kind of shit?
Starting point is 00:21:11 You know, what's going on type of shit? You know, we come down and take the meeting with Birdman and Miami and shit. Birdman, boom, we say we're gonna wait on Wayne type shit. Wayne's I tell he come, he's like, no, he wanna meet Mouse. Mouse was stuck in Colorado with my nigga, heavy low, shout out Slime. You know what I said?
Starting point is 00:21:26 They were stuck in Colorado on the flight. It was one of the time they was coming to Miami. So we're like, all right, well, we're gonna wait on Mouse and Wayne to get hell, bird, you know what I'm saying? Bird, like, you know, that child's a bird man. That's one of my role models is because I like the way he really live in real life. The birdman. Yeah, in real life, not the on what child's seat.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Like, that nigga, a real boss type shit. So he would, that night, that day that we was at hit factory, sitting down talking about the deal with him and my BMF family. Yeah. So he's seeing the structure behind him out. He even said to itself. He said, well, God damn. He said he got the ED's from Chicago behind him and the BMF, like, whoa.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Like, you know, he was more interested, basically. Of course. Like, damn, because it was like Big Cuzz was in the meeting. And, you know, Birdman knew them personally. All his security when they came in, they was hugging Big Cuds. And, you know, they came in trying to look mean and tough for the Chicago, niggas. And then turned it to a bunch of big ass care bears with hugs and shit. Well, you know, shout out to them because they're some real mom.
Starting point is 00:22:16 though but wait so low marks wanted to sign to Berman or low weight and then how did you get I guess out the picture I ain't get exed out no picture bro I was the CEO of hell bears I had no sign he's locked sealed and deliver my business was straight oh gotcha one of my attorneys was Drake attorney at the time so it was like we decided we was definitely gonna do the deal with Universal and with Birdman that's what I was more looking to do business with but dear Lil Wayne they's like Cynette's the boo from Boongadi his best friend of Tambo was Cinekites like, you know, hold off him,
Starting point is 00:22:47 Wayne wanna hollah, you know what in the minute? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm gonna do type shit. All right. And is Lil Malk still signed or like how did that like work and read relationship? I mean, he was saying, I had him under like a contract. I mean, no, he, once he told me he was ready to do it
Starting point is 00:23:04 on his own shit, I just, you know, I released them shit. That's my little bro. So it's like, it wouldn't know, I'm gonna keep you and do this and that. No, go get rich, nicked, I was already up. Now, facts. Now, you say you were a big Berman fan. Now, Burman recently came out and said that Rick Raw,
Starting point is 00:23:15 stole his persona from Birdman do you think that sure I believe it 100% speak on it I just believe that you know Rick Ross to me you know I say I feel the boss I got a big brother that looked like they the feds must have came in his closet and made Rick Ross you know what I'm saying yeah that's how we feel like that they just made them up out like real nigga you know what I'm saying but you know I just feel like Birdman was just you know on the business side he really do that gee who Rick Ross did like a Nicki Minaj or a motherfucker Drake or a little Wayne see yeah he don't got that he He don't got that under his belt as far as the music go.
Starting point is 00:23:47 As far as the street shit go, he used to be a correctional officer, just like basically like a regular type nigga. Of course. Birdman was in those streets. I know a hell of the niggas from down at the bottom, they call it. And that nigga bin net. Of course. Like, Ben net.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Your question. So, like, when did you first meet Nipsey? I met Nipsey. Shout to my Pairoo homies and shit. Free G. We, you know what I'm saying? My nigger solo. All my blood homies from Nellis. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:24:10 You know what I'm saying? They're my real family. So it was like, we down the rock and roll with them. they took us to the studio to meet Nip. This has had to be like 2013, 2014. And we locked in from there. He felt a little mouth. He had, Mouss got two songs with Nipsey that would,
Starting point is 00:24:23 that Nipsey then won't release because he was on so big brother shit. Like, you know what? I want his delivery to get better. I want him to get better. And then we're going to release these songs. And he was working on that $100 tape shit he was doing at this time. So he's like, man, just hold him. And I held him.
Starting point is 00:24:36 I still got him. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so there was like an altercation with Nipsey in Chicago. Oh, yeah, yeah. I can't remember quite well. Yeah, it was when he was on that tour with that shit. And when you just started promoting that Doucet and all that shit,
Starting point is 00:24:49 he came to Chicago to this club called Reggie's and shit. It's on the low end and shit too. He was in there. And I was shocked because it ain't like, Nipsey don't have no big fan base in Chicago like that. Well, niggas just hella nipseyed out and all hell no. It's never been. So it's like when he came to see how many people packed the show,
Starting point is 00:25:04 I was fucked up. Like, well, I guess I was wrong. Yeah, he was like that. But it was an underlying thing to that. That Nipsey had told me backstage. He's like, you see all the Mexicans in the front bro, he's like, there's some shit going on back home, you know what I'm saying? Some shit happening.
Starting point is 00:25:16 My motherfucker's into a, you know? Like, that shit coming on, like, motherfuckers are chasing me down on tour, Mexicans and the shit. Like, I'm talking about they, like, 30 deep. They're wild and see her. They got Crenshaw shirts on in Chicago. I'm like, what the fuck? He's like, man, I'm thinking they're fans in the show.
Starting point is 00:25:29 He gets off the stage. Like, hell no. He's like, man, like, you know, keep your eyes up type shit. I'm like, damn. So we chill. We got, like I say, he was promoting that duce shit. So we had hell of cases of that shit. So we back to get drunk talking shit.
Starting point is 00:25:40 He's talking big crib shit. We talk a big G.E. You know, we're just going crazy. So his tour bus was in the alley. So he was with his homie rampant. He was with the nigga that he got killed with. Yeah. You know, that's why I always seen that shit.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Borship right there, man. I always used to see that shit on, like, damn, like, Shorty was with him. And I just don't like the fact that he ran away from. Like, even though them bullets coming and this and that, and I know most regular niggas will do that, but the love I know that they have for each other, I think he should have jumped on top of his body or some type of shit.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Because that's what I would do you do with him? For him. For us. Like, you know, I wouldn't let him get ate up like that because you see how legendary he was. And at the time, now shout out to the Rampart too. Because if he sees this, you know, Chris Dad and know, like, big folks gonna keep it real.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Now, I think that and I was pissed off about it. But he also showed how gangster he was for Nipsey another time. That's why I didn't understand this time. Because in Chicago, you know, like I say, we was back in the alley and shit, you know, we're getting ready, me and my people getting ready to leave. We got the 30 boppers on us, we're gone. We're like, Nip, gone get out of it.
Starting point is 00:26:36 He was so, they were so in and so in love with like how much love they got. He just backed that challenge as him, grandpa. He had a big-ass security with glasses on and the driver, a buzz driver. They're on tour. It's how he mobbed him. He's gone.
Starting point is 00:26:48 You know, security got his 40s on. You know what I'm saying? Boom. Big tall, goofy motherfucker, though. Because whoever he is, I know he got fired that night. Because it was six Mexicans. Like, we can now imagine me and my niggas city, we're leaving out the alley and shit.
Starting point is 00:27:00 You know, everybody getting ready to leave. They getting ready to pull out. In my rearview, I'm seeing, like, hella Mexicans with these colorful crinshers running through the alley, running through the alley. And there was snow outside. I'm like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:27:11 We, about time we, bus are you, bam, it's going down in the alley. All we see is the big ass security. Now he hopped, he, now he off the bus. They got Nipsey locked in there. And Rampi, they locked in the bus. A little ass mess can knock his ass out, like Mike Tyson, bang, knock his big ass straight out.
Starting point is 00:27:27 All you see his glasses and his gun slide across the ice. Now we didn't, through the car and park, like, what the fuck? Hoping out. Now about time we hopped out, Rampsey had hopped off the bus. On some real act of curvy shit for Nipsy, on some real shit. Okay. And Locke Nipsey in the back of the bus
Starting point is 00:27:42 and hopped off that bus fighting hella Mexicans and they stabbed that boy up. You know, it's in Chicago newspaper and everything. They got to stabbing about town we get there. Now, my fuckers ain't trying
Starting point is 00:27:51 to shoot rampant. You know what I'm saying? Wow. It's going crazy. Like, these Mexicans wild as hell. Like, what the fuck? So, motherfuck got to clear that situation. Boom, boom, boom.
Starting point is 00:27:59 And say his bus got shot up. But, you know, shout out to Nip, but rest of peace, Nip, he don't, you know, even Rampanpon. Like, it won't from the Mexicans. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:28:06 They was climbing on his bus. Stad Rampi in the middle of the street bleeding and the alley bleeding and the shit's fucked up. You know what I'm saying? Nip get up out of that boom. You know, I'm on the phone when like, you don't get up out of the motherfucker get around for us at the hospital. He went to Cook County Hospital that night. That incident remind me of something. So, Meek told Dirk, yo, bro, I'm trying to come to your hood, right?
Starting point is 00:28:24 Who, Big Meal? Yeah, right? Hey, listen, man, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something how inspirational little mouse was to this shit and that Get Smoke song. You know that dreams and nightmare shit that that boy famous for? famous for you know the fame the most the land that they had to drop the beef foe when you fuck around you fuck around he's got it for a mouse and our whole thing was you know I ain't never want to press him about it and I like that
Starting point is 00:28:44 but I know my BMF family could have got out with him easily for me but I just didn't I wasn't never no fan them so I really didn't care and it was just like now he ain't never come pay homage to shorty matter of fact with round of time before I think he was fucking with Nikki McNage then she had came to Chicago gave a nigga 15,000 just to come out with her and make sure she was cool and I'm like what's to do type shit you know what I'm saying But, you know, it's like he was trying to avoid us type shit. I don't know, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:29:07 But I feel that that shit, that shit, when motherfuckers dropped that land in the world, shaking, seeing that shit with that, I just be wanted to. They know that came from a fucking 13-year-old that this boy just ripped that from. You're right. Have you ever thought about, you know, like, legally trying to take action to get someone out in? No, no money. I don't need any. I don't need that.
Starting point is 00:29:28 We never thought about it on the money's part. We always thought about it like, man, you got a respect, sure what he's been coming through Chicago. but then motherfuckers fuck with him. It's that. So it was just like, we just look past the type of shit. Like, okay, well, it's what it is. But as big as, I know
Starting point is 00:29:41 that song is, that's the most popular song the man got. That's what put him on the map. Of course. And he took a line from a 13-year-old that he was inspired by, but he never reached back a show no love.
Starting point is 00:29:51 He's supposed to be this Philly cat in the street nigger. Well, you know, I just never seen him come. Like, maybe he was scared to come around now. Shout out to the niggas that was never scared to come to Chicago. Like, Future, Young Scooter. School of really sitting on the block.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Drake? Drake. I was in a party with Drake in Future one day. Got them one night in Chicago. Drake had no security, nigga. It was just him and his little, like a little night, little African manager, Ethiopian manager. They were in that bitch where hell of bitches is just chilling.
Starting point is 00:30:18 And I'm looking at Future, like, man, we over here looking like a gang, bunch of gang, man. Was that boy over there with all the hoes? This nakes, I see why he's a man. Just chilling. No, so the reason why I brought up like the Meek thing is because, so Meek told Dirk, yo, I'm trying to come to your hood. And Dirk said, listen, I can't really like,
Starting point is 00:30:33 save you, right? You know, go. You're telling the truth. Yo, Dirk said, go at your own wrist. So now the thing is this, is there a check-in culture in Chicago? Like, if somebody checks in, can't say- Let me ask you this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Who are you going to check in with? That's true. Well, there are folks, right? No, we're checking in with me. That's what I'm going to have my logoons around you? But what are we into it with motherfuckers in Chicago? You still at high risk. Got you.
Starting point is 00:31:04 There is nobody. There's no, like, oh, you're with big folks in there. You know, yeah, because big folks get down and people that know me know what's going on. But then what about people that don't know me? The little shorty that's with the switch, like, oh, I don't get a fuck. I know big folks, I'm going to do this. You know, you just got to be alert. I'm like that anywhere we go because it ain't just in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:31:20 You're always putting that stain on Chicago. What about L.A.? Y'all been robbing rappers and actors forever. That's how most of the game bangers live out of him. So why the fuck do the shit be on Chicago so tough? They come to Chicago and be having the best times of their lives, damn there. They never have no problems with them than no big stars. What's the last big star you heard of getting something happened to in Chicago?
Starting point is 00:31:38 In Chicago? I mean, like, other than like the rappers? I mean, besides our own, because they don't count because that's like local shit. That's like little problems that they had before they got on type of shit. Yeah, I can't think of nobody, man. Now, speaking of the rappers passed away, PGF Nuke. Now, have you been, I guess, like, witnessing his, like, recent actions? Man, I've been saying that shit.
Starting point is 00:31:58 You know what I'm saying? Well, he's just trying to get on. Gee, niggins. We're trying to go viral. It's just like the goofy, uh, pedophile spit on you. You look for a viral moments because I got information about that. They said he sat there and he planned that. He wanted to do a viral moment.
Starting point is 00:32:09 So he just said, that's why he said that so calmly, like a pedophile that he is, sit there calmly, wait on his prey. Then he spit, like he's spitting on the dick or something. That's the only time I see spit. You know what I'm saying? Yo, I always see the big. You come out. Don't get too much.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Hey, look. Hey, listen, man. Let's get to it then, man. Yo, yo, yo, Kel was in this building, man. Yeah, Kevin was in this bitch. Like Kodak call him. Kevo the billion now. Here, so how about this?
Starting point is 00:32:38 So, like, what was y'all, like, first reaction when y'all, like, seen that, like, a viral clip? I died laughing. You die laughing? You know, I'm silly like that. I like silly shit. I just wanted to see him get beat up after that, like, there.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Because I was like, now it's about to happen. You got to happen, so I was disappointed. You got a thing, though, we already seen the sex crime. So it was kind of like, all. Like, yeah, he's like, it's almost like when I seen them on the show, I'm like, then they got a real like pedophile type. Yeah, you got to watch your show. You know, shows get counsel for that type of shit.
Starting point is 00:33:10 You know what I'm saying? You got to be careful. You know, Adam probably secure, but you. It was in my show. No, he worked on your show. Oh, no, no, no, no. It was like an interview. So like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Well, you interviewed a pedophile. Yeah. You don't want to be coming into this shit known to be interviewing pedophiles. And then you start interviewing pedophiles. Hell no. So, you know how like people would be having allegations and rumors, you know, like they try to say oh, Kevo got a BBL,
Starting point is 00:33:34 Kevo got this, Kevo got this, Kevo got that. Kevo that don't know by the respect, all this. This is real 100% facts. If you look up his first and last name, you feel me, you would see that he has a sex crime of touching a 13 year old girl. You know what I mean? And R. Kelly had the same sex crime. See where R. Kelly at right now, right?
Starting point is 00:33:52 Kelly shit was federal. The only difference though, all he got no real shit. The only difference was Kelly she went federal. He'd be his state cases, remember? He'd have been, remember, he was thinking, not guilty with jigging them because he even raped all the little bits or did whatever he even did and he's seen not guilty.
Starting point is 00:34:05 That's the same way 16 did on your show. Not guilty, bitch he did the R. Kelly on you. Now, what if the feds would have picked that case up? What if it would have been that big? But we also know the truth to that. So, like, speak on it, though. So, like, again, so during, like, that interview, again, like, I knew real surface information, right?
Starting point is 00:34:22 Meaning, like, I didn't know the full story, right? So, like, my whole thing was, like, why are you even, like, asking me about this, right? Yeah. Because he wanted to get off his chest, right? But, you know, but, like, speak on it, though. So, like, what was the real information to that story? No, the real information to that story about him not getting, what it is, what's the Chomo's called?
Starting point is 00:34:38 What you call that shit? The pedophile cram, when you get guilty? Oh, registered sex offender. That was his big thing, why he's not a registered sex offender. But, you know, that little girl was 13 years old at the time. You got to think. Maybe you don't know because you're probably younger, you know, aren't a parent.
Starting point is 00:34:53 But if my mother's older, they got a 13-year-old daughter just into high school. They know she got four years to be. Yeah, why would they want her to be that with a stain on her time she didn't get raped and charged this boy and this and that? You know, that'd be hard for a black girl coming up in the black community like that. So when all, when all, you know, the parents, the mama got with the principal and this and that,
Starting point is 00:35:12 they just figured it's better to sweep it on the rug. But the police had to do what they had to do. They still charged them. You know, if the charges got dropped, then that's probably why he didn't get convicted. Yeah. Now, okay, so when did I guess, like the issue started? Because, you know, like he did an interview with the Miko do,
Starting point is 00:35:27 but, you know. Which was fine. because all he uncovered was that Miko was the rack because Miko got a 5K1 in their case and nobody else do. When he found that out, he was kind of throw back. And then that's what brought when him and Keva went live with each other.
Starting point is 00:35:40 And Keva was kind of chest tithing on what he was doing wrong. But look, who told me to go live with him? Oh, I don't even know the niggins. Now, mind you, I'm going too fast. Mind you, my little bro top shot her, you know what I'm saying? Call me because shot at one of them niggas that's in tune with everybody. He's the one that's going to stay in touch with dirt and make sure he's like that.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Like real family oriented. So he, bam, he instantly like, oh, I know Shorty, you know what I'm saying? And let me see, you know what I'm saying? What's Tim type shit? He called like, man, like, you know, Shorty, like he's just a blogger and he's just trying to get a story and this and that and all this goofy shit. So what's shot of like, you know what I said? Just hear him out, folks. Because shot to know what this shit about to go to because I really don't play with nothing, like with me or nothing around me.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Kevah around me, just my brother been for a long time. So it's like you're like you're coming over here playing type shit. Like, what you want? Like, because the motherfuckers to get on that so fast, you won't be able to go nowhere. L.A., Chicago. Fuck Chicago. You already can't come now.
Starting point is 00:36:34 You scared yourself for coming now. Yo, speaking on that. Interviewing too many people ops. No, because he also said, who said that he can't come to Chicago or who said he can't come outside? I did. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Right? Now, also, too, like, speak here. Like, we are, like, moving, like, way too fast, right? Let's slow it down, right? And, like, tell the whole story, right? so you got on live now his whole thing is when he got on live and he felt as it like kevin was
Starting point is 00:37:03 like little bro in him no this was the thing when me and who was on live he felt unconfident because you gotta remind you it was a TV on the floor he had Billy Cox house so if I'm at my friend's house and I don't got a car or a home can't get a home because I'm a pedophile
Starting point is 00:37:21 you know what I mean so you can't get an apartment so he's not all the way confident all the way because he's on live with me and they are all Billy Coxing him in the background and they're trying to fix the camera and so you gotta understand that you feel as damn there when we talk and he's sounding like you want to like cry almost you gotta really look at the interview so
Starting point is 00:37:39 it's real bitch-nickers shit like texting me having Ruger text me like man like people go to the police and this and that you think I'm lying I brought my phone with me you know I like evidence I brought my phone with me shit bro I got my phone with me gee the man gonna go to the police the man gonna do this for what nobody did man
Starting point is 00:37:56 let to the world, Kevo, this beat that they end, could somebody please pull up on the internet or something to show me with nobody? Kevoh said anything about these people, see? Nothing. All this fake-ass cyber, I'm being cyberly attacked. This was 16, think that box and whatever the fuck you'd be talking about that. We'd be dying laughing at this.
Starting point is 00:38:14 The only person I know that's like a police officer that would be like screenshot and everything on the internet and posing and doing this. I'm like, what the fuck? Police vibes, because you don't come outside. You ain't active. Everybody to hang out with you saying. two things.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Man, I don't fuck with that nigga. That goofy-ass camera man. That's his own homies. Like, man, man. You hear the nigga, I just seen the nigga Tay 600 or whatever
Starting point is 00:38:37 to do interview with DJ you and he even explained it like, man, he don't know these people. He don't know nothing about a band, man. Kevo, he wasn't in the streets getting no money from 08 to now. How would he know Kevo? Kevow wasn't dealing with no bummed ass niggas,
Starting point is 00:38:49 cameramen's and all this weird-ass shit. Oh, no. So how would you even know? I'm talking about some, don't nobody fuck with Kevvvobo in Chicago. Don't nobody in Chicago. What do you talk about him? talking about, fam.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Your ass from Maywood. Yeah, no, because I've seen a clubhouse clip where they were trying to like question, I guess, Kevow's street credibility. No, let me correct. He's from Coriardy Park, the fake Alguill Gardens, and then he went to Maywood. My back. So you got to think, most of his traffic is, most of his
Starting point is 00:39:12 traffic is, most of the people that even follow the niggas, like straight, like hater bums, Kevot haters. A little weirdos. They're not really on those. You know what I mean? Because they see what he's doing, so they're just like, oh, okay, cool. But it ain't get him nowhere. And he might as well, his career is really overweight.
Starting point is 00:39:28 You might as well stop doing what you're doing. You ain't, if you can't get a car from doing what you're doing or your own apartment, nigga, you're wasting your time. Wasting your fucking time. Now, question is, so after you guys had like a, what, like an hour, like talk, right, online? Yeah. How did things escalate after that? No, nothing escalated.
Starting point is 00:39:44 So basically, so basically he was feeling shitty, like, type of holly. So, you know, like I said, me and damn. Me and damn or whatever, you know, we was, like I said, I've been stopped talking to down I asked bro when I first moved to Miami I had females you know what I mean so it was to the point where like I've been done with her but I was still cool with her for the kids so she was posting like little weird shit as like I'm single and this this isn't this so basically 16s like was in her comments type shit you know what I mean and then like you was texting her long paragraphs and you got to understand me and her phone was connected you know what I mean so I was seeing her like texts and stuff like that so
Starting point is 00:40:20 I've seen them like hitting her up and stuff like that that to try to like, basically he was trying to talk to my baby mama that I didn't fuck with to get information out of her of me type shit, acting like he like her. But you know how most niggas would be like, oh, well, you know, she just, she's, she, like, nigga, you texting this lady, long-ass paragraphs. I'm seeing it. You feel, me like, talking to her for eight to ten hours all day, because you know he's sitting in the house all day, not doing nothing.
Starting point is 00:40:46 And Billy won him out the house. Plok, Placo. Mind you, Kevo, is we watching this in real time when he's doing it. So we know everything that they're sitting up plop. in the plan. We just last. Wait, who's Billy? Billy is the white boy that he lives with on his floor.
Starting point is 00:40:59 He stayed with him on the floor. The camera man for a little Rugal. Got you. So he's basically like... And in Chicago, right? And I don't think that they know that he... I think that they know his background. So basically, you didn't really hear about the 16, nigga, until recently because
Starting point is 00:41:15 he probably thought that that sex crime was going to get expunged because I usually, after 10 years, the sex crime goes off your background. You know what I mean? Because it's old. but it's still on there and he probably thought like damn people are seeing it so now he called himself like oh I'm exposed
Starting point is 00:41:30 I'm exposed how are you going to expose somebody and you're a raper? No like what the hell like it's not like for real it was expung off his records they tell you after seven years should have be gone but they'll tell you that you really got to go down to like the coals and really pay some money and then get these ones
Starting point is 00:41:43 and that so it was still available for records people would still go look it up yeah no facts right but then after that though so why did he then start posting I guess like posting more shit about Kevowell how did like I think you got to obsess with Kevall along the way so long story short
Starting point is 00:42:01 dime him and dime was talking so you know how like you don't want to be with a girl yeah so what the girl would do is like let's paint in there because she tried to pay Kayla Nicole for a relationship she's like yeah let's get in a gay relationship and let's expose Kevoh and this this and this and shit Kayla was like hell on bitch so when she did the homeless thing
Starting point is 00:42:19 this is how bad the bitch won't clout she did she's lied and said she homeless on section 8. How? You have a home. Listen, listen, you have a home. You have a home. You have a home in Illinois on section 8 talking about your married.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Like, what type of crime you're trying to get brought to you? Now, on top of that, you do this in Miami. You're crying real tears talking about you homeless, but you can go back to your homeless in Illinois if you wanted to. So I knew she was fluky right then and there. So now she's chasing it and it still didn't get her to. It is still, nothing she does, it gets her nowhere. Anything she tries, it gets her nowhere. I always knew she was going to be like a failure,
Starting point is 00:42:58 but I was still rocking out with her because of the whole jail shit. I'm just like, well, you know, I met her. She wasn't nothing. She was just like a little stripper bitch. You know what I mean? I'm like, well, you know, I can use another little bitch while I'm locked up to just be sending me money and doing what I need to do, come in and bring me cell phones and jail, shit like that.
Starting point is 00:43:14 She wasn't nothing more than I told her when I got out of jail, I'm going to help you out, pay you back. And all the other girls that did shit for me, I paid her back. but then I end up nothing in the bitch And every time like Which I told him when he came home and they have Don't do it Yeah, look like she was acting bad
Starting point is 00:43:29 Like how she is She's like I don't she like I want to keep the baby And this and that And I'm just like all right fuck it type shit You know what I mean Don't and as far as the marriage thing Went and you know how like a girl Hold You down type shit three years
Starting point is 00:43:40 I'm just like I well she was having problems With her first baby daddy And she was like well you know My daughter I'm gonna end up losing my daughter I just need you to do this type shit So I'm doing it in favor I'd like I'd do it
Starting point is 00:43:51 you know for you because you did what you did type shit but I'm not trying to marry you that's why I was no ring there was no wedding none of that you feel me but like I said how they how the 16 nigga and her had to paint the narrative like oh I took your life but remind you Adam did
Starting point is 00:44:05 an interview two months ago Adam has tweaking y'all let this conversation get that far Adam could have just crushed it you know Adam did he forgot you can go on no jump of clips three months ago Adam was like man this baby mom this bitch calling up here talking about can you do an interview okay we talk about she homes on interview baby mama's all
Starting point is 00:44:20 after he kicked her out. Yeah, the bitch didn't get put out as you call that. So let me ask you something. How did you take? How did you take somebody? That's true. Now listen, now let me know if this is true. And he stated, I believe, on Clubhouse,
Starting point is 00:44:33 that he'd been fucking with Don even before Kevo. Hell no, gee. Myfuss got phone records of the day. They started talking. She even said, motherfugs don't pay her no attention because she's not really, nothing without being Kevone name attached to her, so you wouldn't pay her attention. But she had her little shit you put on YouTube and she said it like, Yeah, I just started talking to 16.
Starting point is 00:44:52 The men, Kevah was way done. And when I knew it was all the way over, you got to watch some of her weird. Yeah, I watch some of her weird. I don't want to pop her shit up, but she tell you the truth about everything, basically. Of course. But motherfuckers get on there and tell her like,
Starting point is 00:45:03 no, dummy, you fumbled the bad. So what happened, what happened is he was talking to her, they was talking back and forth in the DMs, which I've seen. You got to think, I got her, she's so stupid. She let me put her on contract. Oh, shit. So you own, like, let's say like her tectoite YouTube and she like that.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Whatever she do, I can literally just, Even, she's so, let me tell you how dumb she is. She don't even have her name trademark. Wow. Like, she's just a super airhead and she listened to anybody and everybody. So look, long story short, she got her Instagram deleted. When she got her Instagram deleted, her and her weird-ass daddy, you know, the one that we was talking about that work at manpower.
Starting point is 00:45:37 He put, he stuffed Windex in Windex bottles and shit for a living. And this is the person he was taking a bike from. And this is the same deity that she was telling me about like, oh, he let me get raped when I was a kid. Because you know she got to, she got touched by. got like 16. You know what she was. That's why it was weird to me like damn she was molested but she's going out with a pedophile? What kind of sick twisted shit is this? So every time I see it I just look at the guy his name James you can actually look him up too. So when I see them,
Starting point is 00:46:03 I just see James and her. You feel me? Because I'm like damn. So it kind of like make me make me feel like whoa you feel me? But how he want to make it is like I care type shit like oh man he got to care about like nigga you care about it you on a phone with her for 10 hours. I If you ask her, if you ask her, right? If you ask her, even ask gang. I'm no, I've never been on the phone. Out of two years since I've been out of, I've never been on the phone with that girl longer than 15 minutes.
Starting point is 00:46:31 I honestly say the last two years. Since he's been in Miami, the reason why people are like, well, why the amount of y'all always saying shit in this and that? Because this is the why. For everybody, the women in this and that. Kevo was living his life. He had been left for when they moved to Miami. He wasn't coming home.
Starting point is 00:46:46 She had no family. She had nobody. me and my baby mama could have been dogs and be like hell no bitch called somebody or call jesus but now we we we took it as family because we was like a family and i know kevah was being out here loose i know i knew he had just got home from jail i know once he got down that he was gonna be acting bad he had too much money yeah i was telling him and he was kind of like no i'm gonna keep her in you know what i said in the crib she's comfortable type shit with how she living she's gonna be a stay-at-home mom give on a 10,000 month allowance or something she's cool type shit yeah
Starting point is 00:47:12 but then that stopped being cool to i guess i don't know of course i can show you a text message right now when she was saying that she don't want to if she can't have me she don't even want to live no more and that was what March yeah so he'll get those calls then we'll have to stay on the phone with her to four or five in the morning and begging her to get away from the kids crying or just going to bath
Starting point is 00:47:29 and I was going to go to the bathroom and I don't want to what's the reason to live and I'm not cracking no joke on it like it's funny because Kevo left and like that because she was like family like she was and it's like to see her just know that I I guess she figured like well Kevo don't want me no more I'm just going to go out with a bang and hopefully I get
Starting point is 00:47:45 something out of it and hopefully I can develop my YouTube channel off of it. Then she listened to a pedophile like 16 like, well let's co-cock this. And she paid him for it. Hey, right, so wait, wait. She paid for those 17 motherfucketing interviews and the fake relationship. Remindership what he just said. She tried to give it to Kayla. She didn't have enough money
Starting point is 00:48:03 for Kayla Nicole. So the only goofy was the fall for it was him because he like... Piss money for it. Well, here, right, here, right? So question, right? So because I seem like you and Don, you know, like y'all weren't together but you guys were like somewhat cool right like because like she yeah yeah we was cool because she used to
Starting point is 00:48:21 beg me to do shit yeah she was she used to beg me to do shit so she let's say if she'd mess up with some shit she'd be like oh my god can is it a way that I can fix it can I do this can I do that like I don't want this like she'll just be stressing like really is like having a little kid like she thinks dumb like do everything she does is kind of dumb
Starting point is 00:48:39 yeah like Kevin a little at the time he's talking about but he wasn't even being bothered with this shit flaco right I just push her off on him. I'd be like, call big folks or call his girl. Like, stop calling me. It'd be just like, like, down. I'll break it down because I have a daughter.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Okay. So I'll break it down like on some fatherly shit or some big brother shit too like, Dan. Because she's young, right? She's like 20, what? No, she's 30. Damn. So she's not, she talks like a 15 year.
Starting point is 00:49:08 She's always talking to light like she's so young, but she's a 30-year-old mama with two kids. So she should be there like a 50-year-old of that man. No, that's crazy. I'm saying. Now, like, how did, wait, so how did it go from being, you know, like, we are cordial
Starting point is 00:49:21 now, she's, like, went on to say cheese and apologize for lying on you. So how did it go from that to then she's trying to work with the opposite exposed? Because, so, so, so, so, so, this what happened. When she was like, she was like, so Kevo, you don't love me anymore
Starting point is 00:49:35 and you don't, you don't really want to be with me and, like, and I'm just like, I say, I said, listen, that wasn't my plan. My plan was it, do what you do, and I do what I did. Like you, the narrative that I painted for you that you were this holding down type of girl
Starting point is 00:49:51 that you're not that. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I'm tired of even cap and playing and acting like you was. Like, I gave you what you. Then she was like, okay, well, I'm gonna, she thought that she told me about the 16 shit already seen it.
Starting point is 00:50:05 I told him. I'm like, oh yeah, she talks to this weird. You know what I mean? So I was already. Why these rebuttal was hitting them back of the head. I already was knowing, like, she told me. She's so goofy.
Starting point is 00:50:14 She told. me everything. She was like, and don't be mad if I do a relationship goal thing. I'm like, bro, I don't care if you do a relationship goal with no bum. And she also said that on her little interview. Like, she actually admitted to say it. My thing is, though, a relationship.
Starting point is 00:50:28 What is, you got to understand, this is how dumb the bitch is. What is relationship goals? Seeing two broke people eat noodles? No, they just bubble a while when you're truck stop. I'm just basically saying like, I don't understand what's the goal of this whole little thing that y'all trying to do because it's not doing, it's not affecting me.
Starting point is 00:50:45 you know what I mean and it's not doing anything to me I would imagine being him and looking at my life and looking at his life on somebody else's floor oh my god yeah the white boy calling all the way to New York to complex and my people up there that's like a shout out to the people up there complex and my my little people up there you know what I'm saying complaining to her daily about Ruger free videos with no budget as Ruger
Starting point is 00:51:09 and motherfucker 16 with all this new drama he bring it to his home because he sleeps on his floor when he's died in L.A. And Billy Cox has a fucking family. Yo, here, so I speak on that, though. So, like you said, you had had a conversation with Ruga after that situation? Yeah, man. He wanted me to get off his little homie. But first of all, he said he's not his homie.
Starting point is 00:51:28 He was strapped gang and all this other goofy shit that I don't care about. No, Ruga called me. He called. He called in defense. Not really, I ain't going to say he called it defense of him. He just called because I had mentioned his name. I don't know because I found out that he was up there at this show sitting in the background, like some type of fake gangster,
Starting point is 00:51:45 but then he explained to me he was really up here about some Polo G shit. He tried to make him clear to me. He's like, I want him for a dude. I was trying to clear the shit about the Polo G shit. Talking real little boyish and shit. Because folks
Starting point is 00:51:56 I was up there with the pedophile, bro. That's why I was mad about because if you is one of the little folks or one of the little guys, why is you hanging out with a fucking pedophile, bro? And if you don't know, the paperwork is for you to find out. Like, why don't people just go do their real research
Starting point is 00:52:10 instead of making rumors? Instead of saying, look, just like with me, niggas talking about man yeah you know everybody know i got lipo but these these two people are the people that painted the narrative talking about a bbl why would a now why would a guy get a bbL you get bb L bb this is how dumb this is this is how dumb niggas is when you get a bbL that is for a girl to make their ass fatter no guys need to make their ass fatter that's how you know that's how you know they was on some real funny shit but you know it reverses because okay let's dig a little deeper into you.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Right. Nigel, you was a pedophile, a real one. So imagine, imagine doesn't really dig it in and a lawyer hit back like, wait a minute, you guys are arguing with a fucking pedophile? Oh, no wonder why he don't got no crib and can't get no crib and damn they're 30. Hey, right? So,
Starting point is 00:53:00 you know, and their quote-unquote proof that you got a BBL is a fucking screenshot of an IG comment where I think I think like, I think like 600 Breezy was like joking about yo, you know, like, what's up with that BBL you got, right? No, no, no. He said,
Starting point is 00:53:13 gang did you get a BBL? Now listen when this let me tell you about the BBL thing. They said if a male gets surgery, the new wording for it is called a BBL. Not a real BBL because I posted my doctor. If niggas want to know they could just go inbox my doctor. You know what I mean? No guy would ever get a BBL. You would do a 360 surgery. You're going to get abs and then they're going to do your back,
Starting point is 00:53:36 which is your lower back like where your love handles at. That's it. Not no, they're not going to put fat in your ass. It's weird. You feel me? Yeah, right. You know, and like that was kind of like the miss, like, so what was on academic stream, right? Yeah. I'll talk to act too.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Yeah, right. And kind of like the confusion was like, did Keville put the fat in his packs, his ass? No, no, no, no. You only, you know. I heard, you, really. Yeah, I heard me wrong. He thought I said he put the fat in his ass. I said he put no fat in his ass.
Starting point is 00:54:04 Look, look, you got to think about like this. I was, I was big. So, only thing that's taken off is fat. You're not putting no fat. But like I said, they tried to paint. the narrative on some, because like I said, this is how bad he want to go, you got to understand. He want to go viral so bad
Starting point is 00:54:19 because he's a nobody. And like I said, Billy, Billy wants him off his floor. So if you got to figure out, like, bro, do something. Spit on flaco or something. Say, say bandman has a BBL or something. Because, you know, rumors, you know, dumbass motherfuckers don't think like, why would a male get a BBL?
Starting point is 00:54:37 So they just going to go along with it. They're going to be like, man, maybe he got a BBL. No. This nigga really has a sex crime. You got look his name. You know what I mean? His first and last name, you know what I mean? Which we got all that information.
Starting point is 00:54:49 You don't know what I'm saying? And you can go look the man up. His first and last name. You know what I'm saying? Now, right? So, so speak on like the whole, like the whole like snitching thing, right?
Starting point is 00:54:58 Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So like, here, right? So like after, so I like asked him, what did they provide you that made you think Kevler was a, a snitch?
Starting point is 00:55:09 And he says, after, you know, like speaking to him for two hours, he didn't take nothing out of that that can convince him that he's a snitch. However, like, how you moved during their whole situation, that made him think you was a snitch.
Starting point is 00:55:23 So my thing is, after two hours, if you still don't think he's a snitch, then how can you say that? You're talking to a pedophile. Let's just start there. Exactly. Called a Chomo. So you got to understand how people are, right? So if you're saying that you don't think
Starting point is 00:55:35 there's a person to snitch, but then you get mad and you think something, then that just shows you how it is. Like, how could you think, like, that's just like me saying, man, I think he's a tranny. Yeah. That's what I think he's at, well, at first I didn't think he was a tranny. Now I think he's a tranny.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Like I thought AD was a little short stuff fat nerd. He didn't think it's taller to me, big. You get what I'm saying? So it's just like, that's what I'm saying, though, the people that use the platform, this is how you know he ain't got shit going on. He got on your platform, right, on Adam platform, and took a whole hour and a half, not talking about nothing but a rich person. He couldn't even say
Starting point is 00:56:12 He couldn't even say nothing about himself He couldn't say What he did for himself He couldn't say what he got going on He couldn't say I don't know Billy was like bro You didn't say anything about making money Or anything bro and you were just talking about bad man
Starting point is 00:56:29 Like just imagine how fuck His videos barely clearing over two Three thousand niggas is wasting their money really To be honest I would never pay that nigga for no video Shout to DJ you DJ you take it in that lane in Chicago. All of Chicago, you know, he was King Vano, DJ.
Starting point is 00:56:45 He's real connected in the streets on all sides. 16 can wash it up. Yes, he needed a job out here in L.A. for somebody that prayed that. Oh, you know, I interview Vaughn. That's his biggest playing the flame. Vonn is dead. Move on. What's next? What's your next big accomplishment? No facts, right? That's all I want to know when muffles. Like, yeah, 16.
Starting point is 00:57:03 No, but this is how you know, though. Like, look, let me ask you something. They're just like, if I did something to somebody, right? Yeah. If I did something to somebody, you would never, this is how you know, one clout so bad you would never see me post on my YouTube channel constantly about the same thing
Starting point is 00:57:18 he you first of all it was he that it was a assault right yeah so the dumb assing asses he not like that he not like that let you would have been like a white boy or something and you would have called a police or something man that man would have been scared his tail but he's like oh man I'm good man he's dandy study posting it on his channel and guess what it did for his career
Starting point is 00:57:38 it still didn't do nothing no he got a new or did, it got one of his accomplishments that I heard that he wanted, and that was one day to talk to academics and Adam 22. Yeah, that's what he wanted. He got both of them to get some type of attention. They said if he put it on his page, like, man, it's an honor and yeah. Like to act like
Starting point is 00:57:55 to act like to be, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. I don't be really knowing. Like, act kind of like, you got to see how he's doing. He's like, he's trying to figure out who's what and what's going on. Yeah, I talked to him. Man, I talked for about an hour, you feel me. I talked to him when he was in Miami. So, he already knew so when he hearing it, he probably
Starting point is 00:58:11 Like, man, I already talked to Kevow type shit. Like, but you get what I mean? I let them know the deal with even with Shorty, like how she, she was decent, but then that's she on her dick. She don't have anything. She don't have a car. She's eating noodles. She studied up.
Starting point is 00:58:23 They said that she's uploading the baby. Like, damn their girls. There's girls. Look, it's girls DM&Me. Like, I should call DCFS on this bitch. You know what she at now? Yeah, what she had now? Shout out to Bad and Boozy Trina on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:58:35 She over her house on the floor. Bad and Boogetrina? Yeah. They said she on some lady named Bad and Boozy Trina. Boogie Trina. Flo. And there's some apartments and where? I think she said
Starting point is 00:58:43 Alexander McQueen's or something. Where do you say? What they said that apartments was somebody DM me? They was like... County so where Madilda or some shit's so weird shit where it's just like a building and corn people.
Starting point is 00:58:54 They're sending her little kids off to the pools by their selfish shit. Like, if niggas are running around like dude ass, that's pedophiles and snatching kids and... How many kids are got together? Just one or what? Just one.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Just one. Thank God. Just one. Now listen, okay. Well, now since she got the one with you, can she do anything to make it right. Let's say, yo, Kevoldman. I ain't even going to lie to you. She really can't.
Starting point is 00:59:16 I think she should just go get a job and just take care of her. No, seriously, just go get a job. Probably go to school, like we've been telling her. All this shit that she's saying on her little podcast is nice that me and my baby mama told her three years ago. And maybe she'd have started then. She wouldn't have been, it wouldn't have hurt as much of a careful life. I feel like this, though.
Starting point is 00:59:32 I feel like her whole life is ruined. Because she's not a planner and she do a lot of stuff because she's brainless. So somebody can come who don't like her. and really crash her whole life into a wall and now she just got to sit and look for jobs. They don't like Kevoh, they're going to say some hate shit about Kevill and now she's their friend.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Yeah, she's cool, like she wanted them type of people. So you got to understand what she said. Like, how she met 16? Well, 16 was the only one at the time that said, why is he doing his wife like this? Yeah. So how did he take her if he came in to talk to her like, with a comment talking about some,
Starting point is 01:00:03 why is he doing his wife like this? But the only thing I look at him, like, and when I'm saying that, I'm just like, oh, this nigga just want to beat me. Yeah. But then you know how he was talking to her. This how goofy the bitch is. Look, look, this is how goofy the bitch is.
Starting point is 01:00:16 You got to realize that he ran his game on it because he don't have anything. So he has to give her a lot of time. He talked to her for a long time. He's sitting on the phone with her and saying, like, planning shit, trying to get all the tea and the business about, and it's, like I said, it didn't do anything because a girl, when they're mad,
Starting point is 01:00:33 they'd say any fucking thing. So that don't even really mean the truth. You get what I'm getting? Adam knew that four months ago when he said when the bitch called talking about homeless shit and all this goofy shit, man. Hell no. Like, man, yeah, Ben, man, this and Ben, man, you're really supposed to think that a girl.
Starting point is 01:00:45 So I was confused when y'all was even talking about, like, oh, he took his wife. Like, why is that even talked about what Adam dead at that shit four months ago? Like, man, this bitch called and tweaking. Because I was just thinking, like, man, maybe shit, like the little 13-year-old girl that got touched. I think she needs a motherfucker. She needed an interview. And I'll pay her, like 50 rats. Listen, man.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Don't you want to get the truth. You don't want big folks telling you this. You don't want to have to type and go look up to his motherfuckacacacacacacacacacacacist. You are. No, it's, bro, it's, man, don't you think she really exists? Remember, he told you the story. Of course.
Starting point is 01:01:15 But he stole something. But he swept it under the rug type of fast. Remember he stole something, flaco. It wasn't, they put sex crime, but he stole something. It was proper. Her little pussy? But also,
Starting point is 01:01:25 but also, look, you have a thing like this, though, don't you think if we interview R. Kelly right now, he's going to have the same weird-ass excuse? No, if he ain't ever catch a fair case, if it would be here right here with his nuts hanging out. Well, he ain't a fucking sex offender.
Starting point is 01:01:37 No, man. They didn't register to me as a sex offender, though. I mean, it was just a little theft. That's what Arkellia said. Now, bitch left her outfit at Macreed. Some wild 16 shit he'd say. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:46 No, a couple of blogs actually, like, did post that, right? Now, he said that Kevo paid, like, paid, like, the blogs to post the pedophiles. He said, he said, he will say Kevo paid everybody because he. Yeah, he said, he said, but look, but look. Yeah, yeah. So, listen, listen. So you got to understand this. This is how dumb, this is how dumb he is.
Starting point is 01:02:05 If he was smart. Okay, if Kevo paying all these people, so the people who are, who's posting a shit for you. What the fuck are you giving them? And they're not giving them nothing. You're not, if that's the case, if I was paying them,
Starting point is 01:02:18 maybe you should be paying people because you're not giving them anything and what they're doing is not getting them nowhere. So that it don't make sense. He's trying to act like he's going out with Kevold's wife and acting like this relationship real when she already revealed and told us that the shit was fake and brought and she saw my man,
Starting point is 01:02:33 I took his wife. He's mad because I took his wife. If you go look at her shit and when she put up because, you know, she posts up GoFuns me and cash apps now. Like she's on a fool. She broke his hell. She fucked up.
Starting point is 01:02:42 Yeah, she fucked up. All her friends. Her friend, bad and brujitrina, tried to take some type of selfie in it. Like she was capped out in it with a bunch of niggas in and all that. So that guy took him. No, she don't even got a car.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Let me tell you what's so funny though, right? She was like, she was so fucked up to the point where she was like, what she said? You told me? She was like, he could at lease in me to $100, $200. You can lease in his son, $100, $200 shoes. No, no, right.
Starting point is 01:03:08 They're using this shoot word. It's blowing me. I hope she hear this shit. Stop saying that shit. It's blowing me. I heard you got it from Chili Willie, your goofy ass dead. I hate that.
Starting point is 01:03:17 But wait, though, unless Kev was like Sunno, right? So I'm sure Keval will eventually do, do, like, the right thing. No, no, no. What I'm going to do is I'm going to just put myself on child support and you know what I mean,
Starting point is 01:03:27 and then just get custody because she broke his cell. So it's like, it's like, and then, like, what you do is, see, this is how done she is. She put everything out on the internet.
Starting point is 01:03:36 So everything she does when a kid is choking on fucking about to fucking die and she don't want to petters back because she's trying to read comments then it's like it's like clearly if she tried to go against me I'm a beat it she's broken. I hire
Starting point is 01:03:51 four lawyers and just fight the fuck out of her until she can't beat it like till she can't take it no more type of shit of course man now okay so again I'm just asking this because I don't even know if it's sure or not right but he said that a blogger by name of King AK-47
Starting point is 01:04:08 that Cavill Payette I think like 20 grand to post something about him or no. I don't even know who the fuck that is. No? So he played an audio, I believe, on Clubhouse. And it was him and King AK-47 talking. And it was a situation where I believe it said 10K or 20K to post something about Kevold.
Starting point is 01:04:27 But if it's not true, it's not true, you know? Yeah, I don't even know. We're not paying no motherfucking bloggers, nothing, bro. We post about, you know how much bread we'd be out of them? Yo, listen, listen, like 10K and 20K is different. That's wild. This is what you got to. understand. I don't have to pay anybody. Literally, everybody been asking me for an interview. I can
Starting point is 01:04:45 easily go on every single platform and really just tell a whole truth. You know, look, look, you got to think about like this. I can literally go on every platform and really tell a truth about a pedophile. You know what I mean? A nigga that has a sex crime because it's true. It's an honest truth. I'm not on blog spreading rumors. I'm not lying on blogs to my man. Yeah, you got a BBL or yeah, he got this or yeah, he's doing this or he's doing that. I'm not doing that. You know what I mean? called cloud chasing. It's, like I said, it's rumors and it's truth. I'm on here like, okay, cool.
Starting point is 01:05:14 I'm not on here talking about, man, I couldn't expose. I'm not on here trying to act like, I'm an expose a nigga. You know what I mean? Like, any nigga that's overly saying, man, I'm going to expose them. I'm going to expose them. Like, which one is you trying to do with this fake-ass relationship with this weak-ass bitch that don't got no money? Kevin his dummy even on that time on some.
Starting point is 01:05:31 I think he's still scamming it. Now, if that ain't no police shit, if you just came from the feds for scamming the shit, And big folks get on here like, man, is Kevill still scamming? I think he's still scamming. Yeah, he got all that money. Yeah, he got to still be scamming. Ain't that drag. They ain't even draft snitching across the world.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Here, right. So look, so I was on, again, back to clubhouse. And I heard and heard the most pocket watching conversation I've ever heard in my life. There was like, yo, like, Kevold got like in all those classes like there, right? Who has Keval got on or made rich? Or like, you know, like. Right. folks.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Yo, and, right? Also, too, like, bro, like, there's like a bunch of dudes and who came out and say, yo,
Starting point is 01:06:13 like, because of Kevo, I turn this LLC to a corporation, et cetera, right? I could have brought at least 150 people right here from California up here to your show
Starting point is 01:06:24 and told you that. Yeah. You know, it's the real world, then it's the cloud chasing world. This is how you got to think about it like this. When you make a lot of money, bro, people are going to hate.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Clearly, people are still subscribing. Clearly, People are still spending money for a reason. If you were doing anything different than what you were doing, you wouldn't be making no money. I will be on somebody's floor. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:06:46 Just wishing that I had a home and a car. So you got to understand. That's why it works. I don't need a billy or this person or I don't need to hang around this person to be acting like I'm. You know what I mean? Like, these people are wannabees. They used to want to be rappers that failed. I think that's another one.
Starting point is 01:07:05 His little problems. with Chicago in general 16 because he, you know, if you really look at the shit, he really against us. He really against all the ones that really made and that's successful from Herb to Polo G. And not even speaking about, careful of our big rappers.
Starting point is 01:07:18 All he want to do is like get into some type of altercation or not altercation because he's really a bitch. Really just some type of goofy dirt from their neighborhood or their enemy or somebody ain't left behind or so-called. Which, who gives the fuck about them?
Starting point is 01:07:32 But you got to remember this too, though. He's not in, I don't want nobody to think he into it. I ain't into it with him. He ain't into it with me. He's into it with a lot of people. He could be into with me. I don't get a fuck.
Starting point is 01:07:42 But I see him dissing Mimo. He didn't, he did. Everybody opts that. Everybody opts that he's interviewing and stuff like that. They probably on his ass. So don't, when something happened, don't be like, man, Kevow. Don't put me in no weird shit. I ain't know none of that.
Starting point is 01:07:59 That's why he said, I think he said, yeah. I think he said my name a lot. I think he wanted to try to do a lawsuit or some type of broken. No, no, no. I think he just want to just be on some police shit. You know, because at the day, I don't give a fuck if something happened to his ass. I just think that...
Starting point is 01:08:10 I think he's going to trip and fall in his ear and say, Kevo did it. Yeah. Anything that happened, he'd be like, man, it was Kevo. Like, man, that nigga police. Oh, man. Hey, Russ. So, question for you.
Starting point is 01:08:20 So, who was Miko and the other guy and what role did it play in your case? Miko is just a person that I knew, like, a long time ago. You know what I mean? Like about 2010, that I met through a nigga name Matt. Matt told on me and come to find out, which is weird. You know, when a nigga named Jess Mo did an interview or whatever, they had pulled up his whole paperwork, which I never knew. I never knew.
Starting point is 01:08:47 I never knew. But when I looked at the paperwork, it said 5K1 and it was basically cooperating. And I'm just like, what the fuck? And out of the six people, he was the only one with it. So these, so. Hey, that's Nico. Now let me tell you how crazy life is. Okay.
Starting point is 01:09:04 What, bro, just, what they, who you just see recently? And what do you say to you? He lived in my building in Chicago and shit. Shout to a little fan, man. He walked up to me real respectfully. Because walking up OV, I carry switches on me in Chicago. So it was like, he walked up respectfully. And I, you know, I ain't with the goofy internet shit.
Starting point is 01:09:22 So I'm hollering that shorty. And I know some of his people that's good people. So I'm hollering at him. And he's just like, no, bro, you know, I just want to holler. I just want to get my name cleared up, you know. And, you know, Kevold and snitch on me, bro. I don't got no paperwork of it. but I think he did because, you know, it's the situation that I think only me, him and some other people knew,
Starting point is 01:09:41 and it had to be him, bro, if it wasn't them. Speculations. I say, bro, you as a part of the case, your lawyer could get the paperwork at any of the time. You get it. You get it. You know what? I'm going to tell you the truth about how to snitch here worked, though, Flacco. If you ever wanted to know a person as a snitch, you can just go to pacer.gov,
Starting point is 01:09:59 and you can look their whole case update name. You can find cooperations. You can even pay a lawyer to go look a person up. So if you really want to know if they're a snitch, just like as far as the pedophile, we're talking about, you could pay a lawyer to pull his whole case. Even the squash shit, even the shit that you try to hide and don't want on your background. Yeah, it don't matter if it's his sponge. You can still find it.
Starting point is 01:10:21 You know what I mean? Yo, Kevow. Now, here's a question that the internet been wanted to know, man. Yeah. So you smash killing Nicole off two packs of honey, right? Yeah. Double pack. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:32 Now, bro, she ended up pregnant like, Like, like, what, two months after you told her that story, that's not. No, no, no, no, no. What's going on, Kelly? No, that shit old. That was old. That was, when I was in Atlanta, folks. Yeah, that was, that was, like 20.
Starting point is 01:10:49 And when he was doing it, I remember her face had me from her crib, and when she is a young lady, and she did have a dope-ass career with artwork. No, she was like, low-key ball. I was like where you at. But you got to think, though, that's not my type of girl, though, foe. Like I said, I was really doing it just on some. Oh, he's on some weird freaky shit that night on die. Yeah, that's going on.
Starting point is 01:11:04 No. No. He kept calling. He kept calling to be like, he didn't want to show her though. He's like, man, just look at the crib of it. God. I'm like, no, you're like, who is that in the court? Like, five hours?
Starting point is 01:11:14 No, look, it wasn't, it wasn't, like I said, it was. All the light talk she had from my husband and she all. Damn, like, no, no. No, look, so she said something about her boyfriend was going to, Alabama. And she was like, yeah, you know, come over and this and that. And I'm just like, damn, man, I'm just trying to get on the YouTube channel type shit.
Starting point is 01:11:32 And she was like, well, yeah, you know, you got to do this the whole time. She was telling me, kept telling me about the manager, nigger. She was like, yeah, I'm messing with my manager and this and that. I'm like, what you mean? You messing with your manager. She's like, I'm messing with him. Like, when you mess around?
Starting point is 01:11:45 I'm like, damn, you mess around. I'm like, how old is he? She's like, oh, he's like 40-something. I'm like, she had bad. Shorty, you know, I did research on her. She was a little shorty that was picked on about how skinny and ugly she looked in black. You know, that black girl, super dog syndrome.
Starting point is 01:11:56 Yeah, of course. So when she got money and fame, then you got rich niggas pulling up on you because now you So you know, the whole time, I'm telling her, like, I'm like, hey, man, you know, I got this girl, you know, her name, you know, her name, damn and shit, you know what I'm saying, like, because I'm trying to help dime. I wasn't fucking with her. She kept begging me to do this relationship shit with her. And I'm just like, I'm like, man, hell not. You know why I never did her. You know the relationship shit with her because I remember when we was in Chicago, everybody, if you're from Chicago, you know KOD, you know Kim, you know every strip. So the bitch worked at the strip club, and I knew every stripper knew her. And I knew her. And, you know, and, I'm just like this bitch She was doing all types of shit in jail for me Well not for me but she was doing all types of shit While she was working at the clubs And I'm just like man I'm not fend to be on no fucking
Starting point is 01:12:42 Relationship channel with your ass doing And while a niggas looking at me like Man she was jagging me off in the club Or she was giving me head in the club Or she was doing like who knows what this bitch So I remember one of my homies I had a cell phone in jail they called me They like yeah man this bitch
Starting point is 01:12:56 She was running around Chicago all that doing house calls I'm like, this whole doing house calls, but I didn't care. I'm like, man, just send me. She's like, okay, I'm like, how much you got? I'm like, all, just send me, send me this, send me this, send me this, come visit me this, bring me this, bring me that. That's all I really care.
Starting point is 01:13:12 But then at the tour of the end, I'm just acting funny as hell. And I'm like, yeah, when I get out, man, you know, I'm going to be turnt. You know what I'm going to tell her? She's like, what are you going to still be together? And I'm like, man, I don't know, we'll figure it out. You know what I'm saying? So my goals was never to really be with the girl like that. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:13:29 it was just, you could just tell how airhead that she is. If you watch her interviews or if you watch your videos, that is not the type of girl that I will want to marry, wife, none. She's not that type of girl. And she was like super nasty type shit because she was so used to going
Starting point is 01:13:45 to the strip club she ain't had time to really clean. So like, it's like, that's all she knows is like to sell her body and go to a strip club, dance, sit on a hundred laps. She on her little YouTube talking about some. I don't want to have to go back to the strip club out. Damn, damn, you showing the world how stupid you is.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Baby girl, you know how many fields you can get in and work? You can work from home, all type of shit. Why did you go straight to the sex? Why, when you tried to play the game with 16, you had to go do a role at the hotel room. Then you talked about your father. Why you're supposed to have been tricking off with a nigga. And I found that real creepy and strange.
Starting point is 01:14:16 You shouted out her deal with a hotel room. I love, I love somebody sent it to him, where I was like, I love that type of stuff because it makes me look better because it's just like, hell yeah, this bitch. It proves my point when I tell people. They're like, oh, okay, cool. If I get with a girl, I'm a, let's say if I go out with a girl or something,
Starting point is 01:14:33 we're going to turn up, we're going to go to a high-end restaurant, we're going to do this. Basically, she's telling you that, no, you don't have to go to a restaurant. You can eat noodles on the floor and go to this cheap-ass, $50 room and look like a prostitute. That she is. It was even perfect for me because I'm like, hell yeah, it makes me feel better about myself. And not just because of, you know what I mean, she got a baby. That don't mean nothing. Any girl can have a baby type of shit.
Starting point is 01:14:55 But you know, you know what I'm saying? Of course. Yeah. Like, do you ever regret? I guess I said you pay for her like BBL. I mean, not really because she did her part. She brought me all types of shit,
Starting point is 01:15:06 all types of stuff up to jail. That was what I was saying. I told her I pay her back for what she did. I was like, yeah, I do all that. And then you can go about your way because I don't really care about you. Like, she was to the point when I come home and she would try to hug me.
Starting point is 01:15:18 And I'm like, yeah, get off me. Like, it'd be like that. Or she would try to kiss me or she had begged me for sex. I'm like, man, hell and all that. That shit. Because it wasn't good. You gotta understand she's been getting touched by an old-ass man. She said he was young.
Starting point is 01:15:32 So the pussy was super horrible. You feel me? So I didn't really was like, I wasn't feeling it. So I'll be spending, I'll be at damn there Tati crib for like, what a year and a half, foe like damn there. Then she had tried to FaceTime before. I'll be like I'm on the phone. I'm going to. She had tried to FaceTime me like one two in the morning for him.
Starting point is 01:15:51 I'd be like big folks call me real. For her? Yeah. No, no, no. That I'm going to try to FaceTime me. Yeah, right? And then, Lilith, we're trying to face-tabby. Definitely.
Starting point is 01:15:59 That's how you feel, block out? Yeah, look. Can we show it one time? No, no, no, no. Bro, let's a Kevin. Yeah, yeah. Yo, let me show her. Let me show her.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Let me show her. Let me show her how this is what a BBL looks like. She's 20 times bad. Bro, she is cold. They're not going to show you. They're going to show you a. Yeah. I'm going to show them this real quick.
Starting point is 01:16:20 She's bad at down for sure. You know how the niggas be saying like the BBL, right? Yeah. The BBL. Like with the ass And this is a BVL, folks Like this is a BVL No facts
Starting point is 01:16:30 You know what I'm saying You know what I'm gonna lie Yo I'm gonna call to y'all Yeah I don't like to you Listen bro Broc Cabo ain't having No sleepless nights over now
Starting point is 01:16:39 No no No hell no Foo Man listen I've been stressed out With a shelter Abuse bitch sweat on right now Bro listen listen listen listen
Starting point is 01:16:47 I'm gonna tell you like this When I was stressed out I was going to folk trip I'm like man I gotta get away from this year Yeah Because like when she talks It's irritating.
Starting point is 01:16:57 I'd be like, he just come to the city. He's like, gee, I just had to drive up here to get away, the little room, the little car, the little work. I'm like, oh, shit. I don't know what to say.
Starting point is 01:17:06 I'm like, man, I'm like, man, I'm just saving my money for I'm going to go, I'm going to move to Atlanta, G. I'm going to just, he's like, for real. I'm like, folks, I'm going to get up out of here, G. And we ain't look back since. Now, let me tell you the whole time,
Starting point is 01:17:18 you got to think how dime thinks and talks, it will fuck you up because it's like, I'm so smart. I'm telling the bitch about credit and she studied making excuses like, well, I don't want to do this. I'm going to get my credit done. It's 2022. I've been talking to you about credit since 2015,
Starting point is 01:17:36 and your credit score is not good. Yeah. And you know bad man, Kevall? That's crazy, man. Your question, so like speaking of credit, there was a lady who was just in the news, right? So she got arrested because she was, like, using, like, the police reports, right? Oh, I just put up a video about that shit.
Starting point is 01:17:53 Yo, speak on that, man. So listen, this is why when I talk about credit, I don't clean nobody's credit. I never clean nobody's credit. The reason why I know that, because I'm not trying to be the person to force nothing off your credit, even if I have to do something illegal. It's not worth a few thousand. You get what I'm saying? I'd rather sell you letters and sell you a guide and let you do whatever the fuck you want to do at your own risk
Starting point is 01:18:20 and still make my few thousand. Of course. You know what I mean? So that's why it's good to bring up your popularity and know some shit. Now the lady, she was just cap and she was just saying, yeah, I'm guaranteeing. She was in a little-ass town using the only sheriff department. Yeah, bro, so by being a small place, you got to understand how it works. There's a small place.
Starting point is 01:18:40 So they're getting all these police reports. And they're like, what the fuck is going on with this credit shit in this small-ass town? Now, if it would have been a bigger city, it probably would have got away. But then she got on some weird shit. They're talking about $3 million. They probably finessing because I don't see her running up no three ends but it's possible though
Starting point is 01:18:57 Yeah I'll say this Kevall has some good foresight And he foreshadowed a lot of these things that happened because there was a rapper coming up talking about scamming called TJX6 Oh my Bro what happened in him? You know no look at Kevin
Starting point is 01:19:09 Bro bro somebody Why is a nigga study inboxing me about TJ 6? He's going bad right now bro They said it They said it man The nigga TJ just scammed me for $5 Bro last time we was here
Starting point is 01:19:18 Adam was talking about the TJ6 shit I'd be telling me everybody That's being in that nigga that fell off the face word. Look, that's what I be trying to tell you about people. I'd be knowing if they're going to be failures or not, G. Like, and they said it. They was like, man, yeah, he's scamming for $5, $10, $15. I'm like, damn, bro.
Starting point is 01:19:33 I thought they gave him a million dollars or some shit. Bro. $100. Go to his Twitter. Bro, go through his Twitter. Bro, that nigga is doing bad right now, yo. Yeah. That's crazy, bro.
Starting point is 01:19:48 He's talking about I got a $200 cash up account if you want to DM me for 10. I said, God damn, he's selling like cash up account for $10. Yeah, that's crazy. So how did you know, though, that he was just like a little boy. Because, no, no, no, no, bro, you can look at, you can look at, you can look at, he give, you can look at, you can look at, he gives. You can look at, you can look at somebody just like when I seen dude on your show, like, you should be able to read a person, bro, not elevated. That's what I was mad about AD folk.
Starting point is 01:20:15 You could look at a person and not elevate. When I found out of my family members, my people told me, you know, who cause was. I say, well, why the fuck was he sitting there with a fucking pedophile sitting there letting his ass cap? Yeah. AD, no. A.D. No, he's supposed a guy
Starting point is 01:20:26 would slap the fucking breaks off his ass. Well, here, right? Like, to be fair, right, to, like, AD,
Starting point is 01:20:31 AD knew nothing about, like, 60, he told us, he told us. Yeah, right? Adam asked him to do it, you know?
Starting point is 01:20:37 So. But how'd you even know that, like, T.J. X's wasn't gonna last that you know, I can literally talk.
Starting point is 01:20:43 I can literally listen to somebody talk and I can literally look at somebody and tell that they're not going to make it far. Just like we know, dude is not going to make it far
Starting point is 01:20:51 because me, if I was trying to get a job and I knew I was trying to take my career to the next level I would have never spit on you on TV to go viral because I know none of these other companies are not going to fuck with you. It wasn't a smart business move. It makes you just look like, you know what I mean? And you're putting yourself at risk.
Starting point is 01:21:12 Even though he can say what they want about you, but somebody can remember him from that and then other people might call, hey, guess who's up here right now? You know what I mean? Like you're just making yourself a target to other people, especially if you sit on the internet just dissing niggas like Polo G, this and niggas like Mimo,
Starting point is 01:21:28 this and niggas like her, just doing all this shit. And then when people finally see, that's why you have to sit in the house all day. Of course. And that's why I do you want you out of his house. That's why you can't come back to Chicago. And now, you know, so look,
Starting point is 01:21:40 so he did do, I'll say, you know, a great interview with the no limit guy, right? But why do you think, you know, it's only great because Herb is so big, and somebody wanted to hit negativity about it. That's it. It wasn't big, bro.
Starting point is 01:21:53 Here, right, but why do you think I guess like he's like positioning himself against a lot of these like top-shadow- Because, okay, this is a thing. I don't not want to be running around saying, hey, ain't you the guy that interviewed No Limit Cairo? Like, I don't want to be, like,
Starting point is 01:22:09 he don't have a name, he don't have a brand name. Yeah, because Cairo and him like that. They could defend their sales. You know what I mean? So are you ready for what all they got to come? What about their ops? Yeah. What about my fucking?
Starting point is 01:22:19 I was like, are you with them like that? Are you dis-you-you-law-law-you-all-you-just put yourself in a fucking trick bag, as we call it. You don't know where it's coming from. That's the good thing about it, though. About Chicago, one thing you better know about us. Yeah. In Chicago, when you put yourself in that pot, oh, it's coming. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:37 Here, but speaking of, dude's like, okay, so you actually did an interview recently and you spoke on Jay Giruga and you said he wasn't G. Or nobody had known him. I said, I didn't know he was GD. You know, I guess he wanted to love folks or something like that, but he, like, His name don't ring, no bells and nothing. He did the little anthem. I ain't gonna call it no anthem.
Starting point is 01:22:54 He did a song. G.D.'s in the door where I guess he was misinformed that the GDs had been through the doors years and years. Yeah. Way before him. And what's your thoughts on Larry Hoover saying he's no longer
Starting point is 01:23:06 a part of the GD's? Man, before anything, that's what he, that's what he's on. He ain't. I mean, he was whatever he said. He's a man. That man's been locked up for years. He's locked up for decades. Nogues one of, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:17 Goop-the-ass nigger running around to my year, GE and all. all this wild goofy shit. Then it's like this, though, bro. And what are you running around in jail talking about you're still at GD to the judge for any of you? Of course you're going to say you're not a G.
Starting point is 01:23:28 Hey, if I heard that song when I was in jail, I'd have dropped my flag. Because they got to... Look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, G, you want to come home, G? I'm going to come home, G. And he should come home because he haven't been a part
Starting point is 01:23:40 of none of it. Just think about many decades he's been gone. Of course. What the fuck has he done to somebody? You know what I'm saying? He's that been going. Now, is Kanye or real GD? Man, I think Kanye really is a GDG.
Starting point is 01:23:50 That's one of the folks, man. Shout out to Kanye. Yeah. He's definitely a gangster. John Monopoly and the moment. Like, you know, it goes a little deeper when you really look into everybody's surroundings. Yeah, who's the most famous D? And all them?
Starting point is 01:24:00 They're the guys, G. Who's the most famous GD, though? Like, other than Kanye? Shit. Who, Larry, right? I mean, yeah, but he's not GED no more. So don't say that. Yeah, listen, Larry is no longer a part of GD.
Starting point is 01:24:12 You know, he's done with that shit. He ain't with that shit. Yeah. He ain't with that dumb ass shit. I mean, you know, that gang banging shit. It was what it was and it's gone. It's history. It's like,
Starting point is 01:24:19 that's what I'm saying about the BDGD thing, like the fans and the people they don't have to get too wrapped up in it because the people that's really, like they don't want to be bothered with it. It's like goofy to them. Like it's played out.
Starting point is 01:24:29 I just think that people is doing goofy, disrespectful shit. That's what I think. Yeah, that's all it really is. That's like niggas out here playing on the internet thing and it's sweet
Starting point is 01:24:37 and just getting their dumb ass caught. And then they put some... So you play, it's like you play a duck, duck goose with your life, you diss, there you go. I don't even know why you come back to Chicago
Starting point is 01:24:46 if you're on a diss because you know what time it is and all these homies that you see hopping around with videos with all these guns you ever ask yourself what happened to all those guns when they got killed? Yeah, exactly. None of them went off that day, huh? Oh, nobody was with you.
Starting point is 01:24:59 You know, that's a scare tactic. That's what niggas try to do that they're hoping and praying that that scare you. Like, man, I hope that you see me with a million guns and hopefully, you know, they won't mess with me. Like, get that. Yeah, they get their ass caught all along. Yo, mama ain't jumping around with a hundred guns.
Starting point is 01:25:14 So we're chilling and then get shot in the back of the head. Now, so, like, what do you think about the story? I think Lord Dirk Daddy said that he did like, you know, like 20, 30 years in prison because the feds wanted him to snitch on that river. That's a real man. He stood tall. And he was a gangster. Not a BD.
Starting point is 01:25:33 Man. Wait, though. So question for you, right? So I think it's like King Yellas said, you know, that the Bs and GDs were never, like, enemies, but like... No, we actually weren't love. We were flying in the same flat. It's just, you know, certain neighborhoods and certain things transpired and happened over years and decades and different people, you know. So where it got then.
Starting point is 01:25:50 When the drill scene came, you got 60th or two with Lamron and Ovalok. So they made it, like, huge. It looked like a BDGD war when I'm sitting right there with a little dirt looking at the shit. We're laughing and then, you know, I'm over there with folks and I'm looking at that shit. Like, you know, it's not, it's, well, I'm going to say, it's definitely deep because people have lost their lives. But, yeah. Y'all just don't know it's damn they're, like, comical. the motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:26:13 Like, you just sit back and laugh and then just see who next to die. Even though I know that sound evil, but just at Chicago where is, bro? Like, were you even shocked like how the FBG duck shit happened? No. Because, like, at some point, though,
Starting point is 01:26:25 like you thought, damn, bro, like y'all been beefing for a minute. Like, like, shit doesn't, like, settle down. Can I? No, no, no, no. That's how I know you ain't no street, or at least you ain't from our streets because our beefs never go away.
Starting point is 01:26:36 Sure, no. Once you do something, like, once you do something, like, if you play with somebody on the net, whatever that, wherever if it's some money put on your head or whatever you it ain't never I don't care what you do they're gonna nigger gonna always think about you might be smart for motherfuckers sometimes to let it go
Starting point is 01:26:54 yeah like wait a little time type shit that's where you'd be like man what happened to woo what the fuck what happened to him he was he was just because they're gonna think that you forgot about it type shit of course yeah because I'm like damn man now question for you though so you know so like here's hair right so first of how do you guys meet though Because, like, you guys kind of like skip over that part. No, we don't skip over, nobody ever ask us.
Starting point is 01:27:17 That you ought to know? Yes, yeah, to speak about him. I've been knowing about him since the early, like, 2008 on the way. The way I knew about Kevo was he had a little rap songs, you know what I'm saying, that wasn't popping. But I used to hear him in our nightclubs, endless, endless and nice and Adrianas. And I'd be like, what the fuck way? He had that bag, huh? He was that man.
Starting point is 01:27:37 Or fucking the strippers. No, he had to own a den on a lot. I already worked in there and everything. Ari, somebody asked Ari about being man. Wait, hold up. Like, how like. Now, I ain't gonna say, like, I ain't gonna go. I ain't gonna go that far.
Starting point is 01:27:52 But I know that she knows. She was up there at that club, you know? She knows who was who. She know who had the bags and who was just little dirty bombs? Because with the whole, this black ball, the GDs and the GDs getting in the door, finally and all that, that's just,
Starting point is 01:28:05 that's a certain niggas that was trying to get on that didn't have no money to invest in their sales, bro. And they wanted handouts. Here, here, rest of question, though. So was Ari, let's say, was she familiar with Bandman Kev? Was she, you know, like, did she-Ary? Ari was good. She fucked with all, you know, she fucked with all type of finesse and ass niggas.
Starting point is 01:28:24 Her first niggins, she fucked. She knew how to climb the lettuce to success, G. Like, she was a smart girl. She was a fucking, you can call her smart or whatever you want to say. Yeah. She started, we know the free band joey nigger, whoever fuck he was. And then, y'allem it, then her slammed his ass out and took her. He got slimmed out and, you know.
Starting point is 01:28:43 And hair, right? Shorty, shorthy, a real boss with this shit. No, she got our own bag now, you know? Not facts, right? So after you heard this song just playing, how'd you reach out to him and try to... It used to blow me. I used to be mad at it at first because about 2012 came and with Gucci Man and all of them used to be coming up there.
Starting point is 01:28:58 We used to be having shows with Mouse Gucci Man and above them up. And I still hear Baller in me like 50 fucking time. So you got to stare. I saw the get smokes on with a Wain with Double Diamond. I want to hear this motherfucker all night in this bitch. What do I hear? I think they're going to rob us by Ben, man, and bawling you. Double diamond?
Starting point is 01:29:17 It went double diamond, yes, sir. God, yo, folk don't give a little mouse credit for me and a legend that. That's what I'm trying to tell you. That's crazy. I don't know one Chicago artists besides fight, Kanye or Ark Kelly or somebody. No, Keith, right? I'll Keith, yeah, with I think Love Sosa or one of them did. No, like, like, like the Liceaw.
Starting point is 01:29:33 Yeah, one of the, yeah, Sosa, because he definitely did it. And the whole relationship with Sosa and us, like, we was around him this whole time while he's in Chicago there and going to his crib with shit. and he had mouse out a song with everybody on g on on their show glow shit from capo blood money all their ass over that you know what i'm saying yeah freedo of course that's my main man frado that's my homie hair right so you reached out to him and and then like how did you guys like build with kevo yeah in 2016 right before he caught his case right i was trying to clean mouse image up and get away from the drill scene to get more into the young boss situation about the money
Starting point is 01:30:09 because my label was named hellabins his label was that and was band clan yeah we was the only two labels in Chicago that wasn't like talking about gang shit or some type of gangster shit was all about money yeah our label was strictly about money so I already I've been paying them attention because that's how I really scope shit out okay then my little homey shout out to Heavy Low that's how I really knew Kevot because one of his best friends was from my from the hood from 119 and that was one of my shorties and he would mentor him into how to do this shit and get his money then shout out to Big Slime Heavy Low because
Starting point is 01:30:39 he rich and then a motherfucker right now But way back then, he went to the feds, and did his time and came home and back successful and everything. Of course. So that's how I really know Kevow personally, you know what I'm saying? Because one of his best friends
Starting point is 01:30:52 was from my hood, you know what I'm on saying? Yo, so like when you, you know, like got connected to Kevville, like was you ever a shot because, you know, when Kevill got arrested and the news, bro, bro, like you didn't think of say, yo, he had 12 careers, paying 10K a month,
Starting point is 01:31:05 had like 20 fucking cars. Y'all can believe that shit, right? Because, listen, that was about to say, I know him, because, Now, 2016, I'm bam, do, let's do a song. I don't forget, I think maybe he reached out to him about telling him to him to do a song with Mous. Moussel was still burning up.
Starting point is 01:31:19 Kevo, no problem, you know what I'm saying? Let's do it type of shit. But he's like, man, he go down and he do the songs called Hunting and Cash. And then we go down there, I said Mouth down there with the cameraman at Kevo Crillo. He's like, man, the Creole is so raw. He's in some type of penthouse downtown, Chicago. I think that was like the one was 10-11.
Starting point is 01:31:34 Yeah, 1211 South Perry. My mom, he down there, no, he's showing a career about his net. But I didn't know that he was getting ready to turn himself in, like, in the a matter of weeks type shit. Really? So it's like, let's shoot the video and go crazy type shit. Because we was going via, we at the time doing whatever we were doing. So like, let's do that.
Starting point is 01:31:49 But then folks hit me with the news. Like, no, I got, I got it. I'm out of here. You know what I'm going to do my time. And from now, I had several of my people that was locked up with him from the MCM building all the way through his whole bit. That was with him the whole time that synced his paperwork, knew he was cool on the deck, knew he was a boss on the deck, feed motherfucker, feed gang chiefs and game members.
Starting point is 01:32:09 Six, seven lockers. Yeah, shit like that. That's how you know, like, when I be hearing the rumors, I'd be kind of, like, fucked up. Like, some niggas is really trying to, like, put a rumor on a nigga. Sometimes you gotta ask the niggas that was in jail with him, how the state was. Because if you, if you, like, 16, if he went to jail,
Starting point is 01:32:23 he'll come home, he'd have a rough state because he got that crime in his background. Oh, yeah, he couldn't sit in the TV room or nothing. He'd be with the Chobos. And told you, I told them in that way he told you on the showtime. No, it was some theft shit. No, bro. We read what the paper say, into this room.
Starting point is 01:32:37 Into this crime. Into this cell. Come on. You want to be a gang song? into this room. It don't matter how you try to explain the rape. Niggas say sex crime. That's all we see. If it was a theft, it's a theft.
Starting point is 01:32:47 If it's a sex crime is a sex crime. If you got to explain something, you already know it's a lot. Because if you said, tell me what, big folks, they say this about you and I'm just going to say it laugh at you. Then we know you're lying anyway. You just try to say, man, the nigga might be a snitch, a nigga got a BBL, all this you're a liar. So that means you ain't fin a lot of us about this.
Starting point is 01:33:04 I mean, if you look at his record, he's a professional thief, a fake gun toter. A two-th-th-th-chargers. And a molester. Here, right. Here, right. So, question regarding like that, though. So, okay, so first off, right, the multiple, like, gun cases and even like the theft.
Starting point is 01:33:19 He don't have no multiple gun cases. Oh, one, right? He did a fake sticker with some fake guns. Gotcha. Painball. There was paintball guns. Everything, like, listen, Floco, listen, girl. Go and just pull the shit up for your...
Starting point is 01:33:32 You know his first and last name? Don't worry about I get to y'all. I think so. I knew it like back then. It's Rahim, some shit and some shit like that. I get a lad's name in. But look, you're gonna look it up and you're gonna see for yourself.
Starting point is 01:33:42 I was gonna come up here with a poster board as big as there's no jumper sound with this whole shit so everybody can just see it, but I had time. But you can, again, the thing, you can look. Look that thing, go real quick. So just, just, because, you know, people are just, just, they didn't have no proof and they didn't bring, yeah, and that's true though.
Starting point is 01:33:57 I'm like that. Like, if you don't show no proof, I don't want to see that shit. You know, I don't want to hit. Yeah, listen, Kev was pulling it up, so, you know, once you pull it up, man. But listen, but back to big folks CEO, right? Let's just get to big folks CEO, man.
Starting point is 01:34:09 You were linked to BMF at some point? Always, it still is. It's my family, my people. All the way up to Mama Meach, like, that's family over there. They helped me out so much with my other band situation. And before then, when I was in the streets, and you know, I got shot up and all that,
Starting point is 01:34:24 they took me in, like, when my own, when the own people was, like, into it, you know what I'm saying? And with my own people were there in there. Of course. So where it's like it get dangerous like that, where you don't know where it come from, so my fuck, I had to put their self
Starting point is 01:34:36 in the house. house and not in Chicago. So, right, if anybody want to go online and look it up, first name is eight, I mean, R-H, I mean, R-A-H-E-E-M. No, let me say it because I'm trying to sue you and all this. No, you left flock. He's because he a podcast. He can say it.
Starting point is 01:34:55 You can talk about anything, right? Podcasts don't matter, right? They know what they're saying? Yo, whoa, I'm seeing social security number. They got it all posted. They got it all posted on that. Can we want these white people to look at it so they could confirm it because they'd be like, man, fuck those on the line.
Starting point is 01:35:08 No, we can confirm it, man. No, that's going to be biased. No, that's going to be biased. Like, that's money, man. That's big for me. I want to find it. No, not, no, no, no. That's posted on somebody's Instagram.
Starting point is 01:35:19 I mean, you know what I'm saying? I'm just to the point where like they, you know, hold up now. This is the thing. When you get into it with somebody, right, people are going to, just like they telling him information, they're telling us all types of information about this man. Especially when he out there screaming,
Starting point is 01:35:35 talking about they paying everybody. They're like, oh, I want to get paid too. Hey, I heard 16 say that, uh, uh, uh, you're paying people. Guess who else got their hand up? We're trying to get paid too. Hey, I'm a photo. How do niggas get his fucking SSAT? Hey, flock, flock, flop.
Starting point is 01:35:49 I don't know. Guess who else got their hand that want to be heard and want to, want some? The girl that he touched. Really? So she's better. I said that for a real special. I damn didn't want to go Netflix with that because it's a real situation. It's not a situation that we're just going to podcast and then laugh.
Starting point is 01:36:03 Of course. No, because a young woman was touched. and fond dude and all type of pedophile shit by an 18 year old nigga in high school and our parents did not want her to go through that shame or had to do them four years or being in the girl that got raped by my fucking petafowl 16. Simple as that.
Starting point is 01:36:17 Here, break that down, right? Because his story is this, you know, it can just be fair. Yeah. I'm going to tell you guys and what, you know, and he's, you know, like that happened on and off camera. And he says... He's explaining it all over the place on.
Starting point is 01:36:29 Yeah, right. That he got into it with her. You know, now she liked him, but he really wasn't giving him no play because he was older. So, like, she was, like, bringing him, like, gifts and shit trying to, like, woo him and shit like that, right? At 13?
Starting point is 01:36:44 At 13? Yeah, he was taking him? Yeah, right? Oh, okay. Yeah. And, like, um, and she gave him either, like, a laptop or something expensive, right? Okay.
Starting point is 01:36:53 Okay. And then eventually, like... He got a lot of theft in the shit now. Okay. So he probably stole that. So she gave him something. Yeah, right. And then after that, you know,
Starting point is 01:37:03 like, he still wouldn't give him no play. So she asked for him. for her back and he told her, yo, I sold it. So her mama told her, you know, yo, like, get it back and she couldn't get it back. So then the mama and them told her, yo, say he raped you as like revenge for. No, that's a lie. That's a crazy accusation. That ain't, that ain't.
Starting point is 01:37:19 You know what? You know what? Hold on. You know why? That's a crazy accusation. And people were so slow and dumb and they probably, well, I ain't going to say that. People just probably ain't ever been in a trouble. Bro, if that was true, 16 would be a million out of day.
Starting point is 01:37:29 You know what? He could suit the school system, the police station, everybody for putting that on it. Because it's still in his record, sex crime. Now, how did you commit a sex crime from taking a laptop? No, you took her little coochie. They say he was grabbing on her asshole and touching her little pussy. And it's not funny. It's not funny because this is some real shit.
Starting point is 01:37:49 And you did that. And y'all kind of got caught type shit. That's why it's like the school is behind it. Now, you got to imagine the school wants the shit to go away because they don't want what? The mama really trip on them. Now the daughter was on, how would she fondled in y'all's school by a senior? Why she even crossing paths with this man? So now that put the blame on the school.
Starting point is 01:38:08 So the school is forced to hold on. Let's try to figure this out now. Well, maybe it was like this. And, you know, he's a good young man. And maybe we need to just go this route. You know, your daughter got to go to school. We don't want to have a stain on her and this and that. You know, a lot of black girls go through that.
Starting point is 01:38:22 To where, like, they got to say how to have their shame or had what somebody else did to them. So they won't feel shame. And that's bullshit. And 16. One of the pastime to die. Same thing that happened to damn. Like, when she gets into it with people, like, she would need them again. Like her mom.
Starting point is 01:38:35 She got into her mom. She said, you're the reason why I got raped and stuff like that. And now she's like, well, you know, my mom, she didn't really do too much. You know what I mean? The whole time the dude coming home. When she needs people, she's just going to do what she got to do to try to sleep on their floor. I had to do what I had to do. To the next day type shit.
Starting point is 01:38:51 She said it herself. This ain't no cat. Now, again, man, like, you know Don would probably try to do more treacherous shit. So, like, do you? What? How? Yeah. Live?
Starting point is 01:39:01 No. I mean, this is how to the good situations. When you pull your gun, all right, we can pull our guns out, right? But your ass better show enough have enough rounds. Because when you run out of bullets, bitch. Exactly. We ain't shooting nothing less than 50s. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 01:39:15 So it's like, you shot your little 20 shots out. You know, I'll let her get everything out that she had to get out. Now it's like, now is my turn to really, really destroy her all the way because she's not, she's really not nothing at all, bro. You know what I mean? And I can let the world see and show like, oh, she ain't on shit. It's better to let the world see for a self than my father being bashing. Not me trying to. Not me trying to do this.
Starting point is 01:39:37 I'll let the world see like, oh man, this girl really ain't no shit. She don't do nothing. Mynepovone's like, man, what is she even on YouTube for? She can't even show you shit. Like, it's just like a girl showing you. She can't even show you how to be a good mother on that motherfucker. She got the little boy drinking motherfucking hell of juice where his teeth going to be rotten.
Starting point is 01:39:52 You never see him with no healthy milk or no healthy apple. She studied putting a boy. She doesn't see none of that shit around him. You see him shoeless with a bottle with some grape shit in it, but his teeth is going to be rotten to the fucking core. If she'd be mad at me that I, that I've been on this. When we were still
Starting point is 01:40:06 a family in this and that, I used to still be on her ass about parenting. Yeah. Because she was a horrible, horrible fucking parent. Maybe it's not her fault. Maybe her mom in the way
Starting point is 01:40:15 she's going to go with our mom and this and that. Maybe that's the reason why. She was a horrible parent. I ain't going to cap. No, she is like, even when she was on her live and shit, the baby's choking.
Starting point is 01:40:24 You're so wrapped up in this live and this shit with Kevo and 16 and trying to figure out that who told you that you was going to be a YouTuber? Who's interested in your story? Jessica, I used to tell you. That's because you're a band,
Starting point is 01:40:34 Man Kevold's girlfriend doesn't mean nothing. Who are you? Here, so... You gotta become something. No, but she stated, though, that her YouTube numbers are not going up and it's doing bad because Bamako is putting bots on it.
Starting point is 01:40:47 What? So why she don't call YouTube and deal with YouTube? What the fuck? Bro. The girl, listen, listen, let me tell you like this. She's been around me. She's been trying to do YouTube. It all failed.
Starting point is 01:40:57 You know why it fails? Because she's an airhead. It's not interesting to watch her. All they're talking about, well, I'm gonna do a Nail biz and I'm doing that. These are things that was already offered. They have money behind the way.
Starting point is 01:41:06 Every plan she got. She had no effort. She had no energy and no business. And she told my baby mama that. Everybody's not built to be a business mom. I'm just a stay-at-home mom. To it got confusing. Like, okay, I understand stay-at-home mom.
Starting point is 01:41:16 But stay-at-home mom. Got the crib clean, cooking, kids in order, learning, not just sitting there looking at milling-meling whatever fuck this is. Also, that's another thing I want to let you know. She's so goofy that she gets motivated off of comments. Really? Like, just like you, if you beg a video
Starting point is 01:41:33 You're just under every comment. You know she airheaded. If you really plan on getting successful and get to the next level, you're not going to like just look at every single comment and just be happy about every single comment. You know what I mean? Because people are going to like you and people are going to hate you. And if you're working on your craft, you should know that already.
Starting point is 01:41:52 You know what I mean? But she just, oh, you guys motivate me so much. And not even knowing that the whole game these people playing, they're motivating you to fail more and more. Like, yeah. Matter of fact, hey, dime, you don't. what you should do, sleep in the trash can next. Yeah, keep going, girl.
Starting point is 01:42:07 We got a text message from that. What Kayla Nicole gave up, play by play, what to do with the homeless shit? And it was just like, are you serious? And she did it. Oh, yo, so speaking of Kayla Nicole, did she ever, like, reach out to you in afterwards? No. No. She's not going to reach out to me because she did.
Starting point is 01:42:20 She has hosted the images of something. This is what dime does. When plans go wrong, let me tell you what dime does. When plan goes wrong, she's not going to do anything but expose the person who told her to do this. Just like she's going to probably do it 16 later or. or whoever else later. She's just that type of person because you got to remember this.
Starting point is 01:42:38 If a person does a lot for her, like I did a lot for her. Imagine a person that who ain't did shit for her. Now she's on internet like a guy doesn't have to do this and a guy doesn't have to do that. Now she's taking up a 16 on some of that shit. Like, well, you know, everybody that's not rich. He's not broke though.
Starting point is 01:42:53 But y'all eating Buffalo Wild Wings in a dungeon-looking-ass spot. Looking real rapy, looking real pedophileish. It made me think about the sex crime shit. Insulin. I thought about her getting raped with James and I thought about his ass touching that little 13-year-old little innocent girl that walked in that school.
Starting point is 01:43:10 That's all I thought. I just like, man, that's one of those scenes. That's probably where he do with rape set. I am. Hey, I'm right. So, right? So do you think, think, you know, even like, and I mentioned this, right? Do you think there would ever be like a solution
Starting point is 01:43:25 where you and 16 get past this? He's pointless. He's not relevant enough. His interviews went downhill. I told you. He's not going to never interview nobody of importance. Can we all just realize that?
Starting point is 01:43:38 Can we all just say that? Adam and Act, can they see that? That he interviews nobody of importance. His only claim of fame was King Vaughn. And then being on that with Kevall. With Kevah. He loved that. I can't take away from Cairo.
Starting point is 01:43:51 Cairo made it little viral. Listen. But that's Cairo. Cairo should took him out of here. Not with Cairo on no limit. What I would ask little demo over there is you know he monetized that.
Starting point is 01:44:02 Did he send y'all y'all bread? That's the only thing I would wonder. Like, you know he monetathe. Nah, I make that nigga send me to bread. Man, you made all the views and I'm sitting out. Man, nigga, you got to pay me. Not going to use me and just not send me nothing, bro. Like, then, then it kept I'm on some, oh, no, I'm just a blogger
Starting point is 01:44:18 because I'm a big fan of herbs. So, damn, what you sent down with Cairo playing with folks for? A herb. That's some haters shit. That's like some damn there wishes of both sides of the fence. So, you know, they always get stuck at the top of that motherfucker and just be stuck there, boy. You listen, man. Yeah, listen, like, fact, because he, I did say that Herbert is his favorite rapper, man.
Starting point is 01:44:35 But, you listen, we're going to give some shot to Y'clock before we get out of here, man. To who? White Card, right? Neighborhood? Oh, no, Walcott. Shout out 70-person, Walcott. Boy, they're going to get rich forever over there. So, first off, man, who is Money Man?
Starting point is 01:44:51 The Money, what gang he said? No, no. Money Man hit. That's my name. All right, man. Okay, bro. So, like, where are you from? How did you start rapping and you know, shit like that?
Starting point is 01:44:58 She, I'm from 70 and from Walcott. Man, I've been rap for like 10 years. But shit We had started off playing around And shit That took us A little bit Hey, so question
Starting point is 01:45:09 So like What one? Like what was the one song Right now That everybody who's Who's watching What's the one song This should go ahead
Starting point is 01:45:15 And check out Just going to be like Yo, this nigga Cold as fuck It's called power Power Money Man hit Power Yeah
Starting point is 01:45:21 Check it out Yo listen Like You know like bring Uh The guys Come on man Can you
Starting point is 01:45:27 Yeah we got Yeah we got We got Let me let Let me let me sit down Yeah Yeah, Greg and him on this, bitch, he'd be on that skin bone skits on time. He got his own series going on.
Starting point is 01:45:38 This third out, shawdy up next. He's cold-ass rapper. What's up, man? Yo, listen, I ain't going to hold you, man. This nigga looks like the real street nigga, man. No, he is. He the nigga that got this episode called. You got to check him out.
Starting point is 01:45:52 Surviving Chicago. Okay, Surveillance Chicago? Yeah, he's like corporate and skin bone. I'm going to let him tell you. Yeah, it's a YouTube series based on, like, my mom getting shot 17 times. and like me growing up in Chicago and getting arrested and just, you know,
Starting point is 01:46:05 like shit, like, you know, the real struggle type shit. Okay, so like, what's your YouTube name? CBMG, Grego. All right, man. So you just do, do like the skits of funny shit,
Starting point is 01:46:14 huh? Yeah, I do everything, bro. I do music. I do skits. I'm a film director. I'm a producer. Editor, all the one. Yeah, listen,
Starting point is 01:46:22 but this is popping in the city, big boy shit. Yo, but this is one talented street nigga, man. Oh, my mom. Appreciate it. Real nigga right there, man. I think he should be in movies and shit.
Starting point is 01:46:30 You know, What, like, what, like, comedy skits and, like, stand-up and shit like that? I mean, that serious shit? I wouldn't do it, because the commercials. That Chicago, Spive Chicago shit is serious. It's the more serious that. I want you go sit down and take time watch one of them episodes because it's more of a serious side. Yeah, it's more like a drama.
Starting point is 01:46:43 It's like, the shit that's, like, the shit that's really going on. It's based on a true story. On his mom getting shot 17 times. And shout out to that lady because she's still alive. Yeah, right now. Now, now, who is third-eye, man? Yo, yo, you listen, like, third-eye has the most fucking unique name ever, bro. Third-eye.
Starting point is 01:47:00 Who is third eye? My pop gave me that name, and rest of the piece, my pop. Me and my brothers, we used to have a rap group called Voltron, you know, the cartoon. Yeah, Voltron. And here, the arms. I used to be the head.
Starting point is 01:47:13 I used to be the head. I used to tell him, I was the most conscious. You used to call me Third Eye, so I ran with it. Now, facts, now, again, like you two, right? What's the one song again? Like, that one song niggas go ahead, be like, yo, this nigga is out of here. What's that one song, this shit, you know, check out?
Starting point is 01:47:29 Off the rip. that off the rip it's on YouTube right now and I got a maceape coming that's that one I like to go crazy my mom that shit I should go crazy I'm gonna I been I've been in Jinnel and produced I do all my own stuff I got my own recording studio I've been doing since I was like hey fuck all everybody I'm my circle gonna be talented they gonna be work some shit and I just know oh I'm a street nigger that shit been played out so long bro you got out the streets we don't want that shit no more no Beverly Hills we want the six million dollar house we want the new ghosts we
Starting point is 01:47:57 want the new G wagons y'all can have the streets you could be the street Yo, goodbye. Yo, listen, I see, bro, I've seen everybody walk in. You definitely got the G-wagon already, man. Kada and shining, bro. G-wagon is light, you know what I'm saying? A little night. Yeah, but you said, like, you got a mixtape coming out?
Starting point is 01:48:15 Yeah, it's called Third World. When? Man, probably like next month. I'm still working on. We still working because, you know, big folks just got his hands on them. So, you know what I'm saying? We don't go to the doctor with him and go crazy, make his ass beat. You know, because I don't really like the YouTube rapper,
Starting point is 01:48:29 and I'm here today going to mine. I like longevity, so I like for motherfuckers to really be, you know, solid. Like, you know, go crazy, make sure we know on every step that we're doing. You know what I'm saying? Hey, some questions for you. So why do you think Dirk was successful and, like, other things wasn't? D.Rke was successful because he had Chino, D-thing, and S-B from the beginning to where they, those boys are so business-minded for being street niggers and what they was doing, getting money,
Starting point is 01:48:52 to where they just put it into the music shit to where it's like, they knew what they, it was exactly this. They knew what they wanted to do, they knew what they wanted to get them to, and they didn't get fuck. What they had to do, no matter how long it's take, they were gonna get them there, and they got them there. So, recipes D-Thing, because I was real close to D-Thing, Chino and all of them. Chino, that was my man.
Starting point is 01:49:08 Recipes both of them. But they had the type of brains that you knew they was gonna be like little puffies and shit, like they was already thinking like that. They was on that. And do you think that Dirk gotta stop this in the opposite in his music? I think Dirk need to keep doing
Starting point is 01:49:22 what's making it work for Dirk. Okay. Here, right, because people were saying, you know, especially now too, right, where it's like, yo, Dirk, like you've got into a level where you even given attention to like like for example like bro like
Starting point is 01:49:32 you're still a Chicago nigga you I mean can't take it out of him nigga what you want to be phony like here for example right like Dirk was dissing FBG Cash like before he passed away like who the fuck like so but FG Cash was like a low level artist Durk was up here right so folks like damn like why'd you even like maybe he threw him out of you you know that's
Starting point is 01:49:50 something true right now maybe something maybe goofy should stop thinking about everything like oh man he diss me and his that man somewhere living his life with India and peers and shit you're dumb ass on the block scrambling for for straps and thinking the BD's coming. Yo ass should be somewhere focused like, how can I piggyback off this?
Starting point is 01:50:05 Let me get my ass away, getting to studio, let me go crazy, and let me keep everybody out my business on the streets and all that. And let me benefit off of it and stay alive. Of course. Now, speaking of this in the ops, do you think it's time for people to retire, like smoking on Tuga?
Starting point is 01:50:20 Man, I thought the shit played, it been played out. Y'all don't hear nobody saying that shit no more. The only motherfuckers keeping it live is like bringing his mom on interviews and doing all this extra shit. Like, let this shit, everything dialed and play out. That shit died out and play out. Then the cheap keep, then it died out and played out. So, you know, smoking don't too,
Starting point is 01:50:35 is on his way out the dough too, who the fuck? Like, here, so he's got popular, Shorty's gonna say shit, they gonna do shit, G, and this, you know. Like, I don't really, like, I ain't sensitive enough for that shit to bother me. Of course. Now, like, do you think that people exploited his mother recently, like with the whole interview those scene?
Starting point is 01:50:53 Yeah, I think when the mamas, with them interviewing the dead mom, my thing is this, it's Chicago. You know what I mean, he did mammas? Like many, mommas that got dead sons. Yeah. So unless we're gonna interview all of them, hear the real stories, and this and that.
Starting point is 01:51:07 It's like, I understand that their kids probably got famous on the internet, this and that, because none of them really got major deals, so I'm not gonna say they got rich and famous. None of them, none of them that's damn they did. So it's like, it's like just talking to the mamas is what? Keeping the ops, like knowing what they're doing? Like, how we play in Chicago is like this?
Starting point is 01:51:26 Like, damn, we're into it, this and that. Now your people still around talking about the shit. What they want some smoke, two type shit. So you got to kind of there watch how you interviewing the mommas and then they're putting their lives at jeopardy. What's your take on Charleston White?
Starting point is 01:51:38 And he's... I'm gonna catch him and beat his ass. Oh, okay. So like speak on that. I'm gonna catch and beat his ass having to call the police on me. I'm gonna bond out, laugh, take hell of pictures with the law
Starting point is 01:51:46 and pop out and just be cool in the motherfucker. And then, because what do you got to understand when he's saying fuck Chicago and he dropping them rakes and all that? Do you know the biggest stronghold for GD's besides Chicago? Who?
Starting point is 01:51:58 Texas, motherfucker. I make him about. muffa could knock on that man Dota Ma and holl at him. All these guns, he got you know, when niggas get to show on them guns, I was like I was saying, that's a scare tactic. I know niggas that ain't scared that. They wish, they hope you got it on you because you know why, Falco, let me strike something to you.
Starting point is 01:52:12 How do America work? If you got a gun on you, I kill you and it's just me and you? Bro. You're going down. You tried to kill me. That's true. I don't get fuck because your gun registered. Hey, my life was threatened. I seen Charles Whitewater with the big-ass gun on.
Starting point is 01:52:27 Carrette. Who was fucking brains out. Yeah, man. sit there with his body and weight do he know it's like that's how we is in chic we like chicago niggins ain't do nothing he's talking to a bunch of shorties that don't got money like when he disin bond varnish did because if varn was loud he probably would have just you got on that with his ass put bag chase his ass down dirt too big don't need he ain't about to even look his way because dirt is really smart like he's laughing he probably sit up and watch him and laugh yeah but like he only talks to our shorties like what i mean what i'm trying to say
Starting point is 01:52:54 flocker is he's not going to talk to nobody he's not going to talk to a big folks they can just spread the bag all around America, so I find you, to one of your old-ass-crip homies backdoor you, sitting around drinking big beers and sitting around bummers' hill. Bums, drinking beers, smoking new ports, and smoking crack and talking crazy on there, and talking about these little niggas ain't going to do nothing.
Starting point is 01:53:14 Now, well, if they big homies come see you, well, if they big homies call down to Texas and say, hey, man, something better shake or a Texas artist just can't come through this bitch. It'll get real. You see what I'm saying? Of course, do you think that, now, now Vita went viral of 600 Breezy in a room with him.
Starting point is 01:53:28 600 Breezy should have knocked his ass to fuck out. And since he didn't, I do not fuck with no 600 Breezy. Simple. Is he out? Who? No, I'm saying, right? It's 600 Breezy, like, when you say, like, you don't fuck with him. Can he still come back to the hood?
Starting point is 01:53:45 I don't know. I don't know. What he could do? I'm just telling you, I don't fuck with him like as an artist or a man or nothing. Because, nigger, you had the chance to get up on a nigga that was dissing, Vind or Ive GD, like that's almost like if Rue would let him up on him, dissing duck and don't do nothing. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:54:02 Like, get your bitch ass on there. Man, mama, you could be a neutron and did that. Now to talk, black, man, get your hoe. What the fuck was the purpose you going to talk to nobody? You know that's ain't no motherfucker cheering me? They all that sitting up here talking this shit. You're supposed to get off on his ass unless you were scared. Now, question, though.
Starting point is 01:54:17 So people kind of criticized Durkan him for this, right? Because when King Vaughn passed away, 600 Breezzy and Memo 600, they made a video saying, no, they made a post saying the real Chicago steppers are common to Georgia in same way and they were coming to Georgia to Sloth Vaughn. But you know what? They came and they filmed video.
Starting point is 01:54:35 They probably, they wasn't talking about their sales when they was talking about that. They're talking about the real steppers. The one that don't want your fucking interview. The one that don't want to be on no fucking body YouTube. Gotcha. You see what I'm saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:46 Oh, they're around. And they don't want no clout. They don't know what they want? They body count to go up. Gotcha. Got you. Hair, right? So like for folks who criticize,
Starting point is 01:54:55 them and you're saying, yo, like when they said that, they weren't talking about themselves. They're talking about the Chicago. And they wasn't line. Wow. And they wasn't line. Yo, listen, man. So now y'all know when Dirk says,
Starting point is 01:55:08 yo, we already slipped, but apartments was empty. He ain't cap. You better, listen, for that little boy, Vaughn, you better believe. Dirk ain't got to say one fucking word, gee. Shorty was powerful itself. Some people are definitely going, man, what? These are just rap songs and internet shit.
Starting point is 01:55:22 You got to understand. When nigs are the internet, they'd be hiding. and you be trying to find them. You know, you gotta spread that bag. Then they need to come to a point like, man, is he even worth me spending this bread trying to chase his goofy ass down? Just wait to somebody catches his ass.
Starting point is 01:55:34 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So you'll see that. Dirk, too important to be worried about anything. Like, what do you, you worried about somebody that, you know what I'm saying? Because they disinvant and this and that, man. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:45 They're not going to come to his face and never do no shit like that. They ain't going to do no openly show. They ain't going to go overly crazy. They're going to have their career's going to go down because they can't do no major shows. You understand the people that's putting the money up for the shows rolling loud and this and that. They're not going to invite you and tour with Dirk.
Starting point is 01:56:00 They don't know. Even though Dirk might not do anything, he don't got to do nothing. His name is strong. Yeah. I don't think he did nothing to nobody in no way. They talk about like he out here doing some killings. Well, like Dirk, I did get arrested because he was like running something to get down, like in middle of the street with like a firearm like in like Chicago someday. No, I think that shit was like, oh, yeah, back in the day when he caught his gun, I don't know, you know what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:56:22 Yeah. And even like recently too, like he. And he got booked with like King Vaughn So apparently they like shot somebody And like apparently. See the word? Yeah. Apparently.
Starting point is 01:56:32 Yeah. Apparently is free. So apparently that shit must not be shit, right? Apparently. You listen up, man. So right now, bro, you know, like one of like the last few questions is what's the state of Chicago drill right now, man? Like, you know, because right now.
Starting point is 01:56:48 Right now PGF look turning up. I don't even know nothing about Shorty. I just hear him air way. Shorty turning up right now. You got the blog was coming up, King, Yellow, DJU. You know, DJU was King Vons DJ, so he coming up super big. Third coming up? Oh, I team, I team definitely coming up.
Starting point is 01:57:05 Money Man coming up. Coming up on the rap shit, because we're already up. So you gotta be real specific. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Coming up on like the music shit, because listen, y'all have to see this change in person, bro. These dudes got the shiniest shit I've ever seen. Even rappers coming that don't got that shit on.
Starting point is 01:57:20 Yeah, these ain't Moistenites. These real deals. You get this. You buy your baby mommas and bishops the bitch is the fake shit, the voicemacks because the bitch might do some wild shit try to sell it. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:57:31 Hey, you listen up, man. Well, here, first off, bro, I apologize for, have y'all here for two plus hours, man. We don't get that, fuck. We got into chilling. Cal is getting high, smoking, relaxing. Nah, my facts, man. This is our life.
Starting point is 01:57:42 This is what we do all day. We just chill, relax. Yeah, chill. Yo, like, when you say, like, you were so, even like, okay, let's speak on the the AD thing, right? Y'all have some words, but it not, like,
Starting point is 01:57:53 And in those like exchange back and forth, you say, yo, like you was tapped into LA. How did you get tapped into the, you know, to LA gangsters? Through my BMF family. Gotcha. Uh-huh. Through my, through my motherfucking cousin, G. Weeder with Kendrick Lamont and all them over there in Nellas. Shout out Kappa Nellas. I don't say Compton.
Starting point is 01:58:11 I say Bombton. Mm. You feel me? Got you. And I'm a GD. That's different. Way different. That means I cover all corners of the, it's a g-ganger.
Starting point is 01:58:23 shit go? From all the way from Latin Kings, the Centuola mother life, yeah. So, Charleston, White should probably leave you alone. Oh, Charlesville White ain't fucking with me. I want to fuck with him. He wanted to get to it. He thinks he can articulate itself better than everybody because he's talking to kids.
Starting point is 01:58:38 Just because his ass be sitting up talking to boards and going to the oldermines and talk, boy your ass is a fucking jailhouse lawyer. I can hear it all in them. You want them niggas that used to be sitting at jail trying to tell everybody about their case. Sitting up dry snitching and then they're trying to get your time reduced. some real cop shit.
Starting point is 01:58:53 I know what he is. Yeah. All he's the police and the, no, I know he's not. He's just a little bum-ass nigga with nothing to do. He got his gun permit with two little guns. Yo, listen, so speaking of another, again, bro, I'm sorry for taking your time, by right, but, like, speaking of another Chicago OG, R. Kelly. So, like, what's your take on R. Kelly, man?
Starting point is 01:59:13 Man. Like, what's going on, man? Man. Was he set up? All I'm going to say is he beat the state and affairs don't play. So 16 should be very grateful The Fid didn't pick his case up You listen to up
Starting point is 01:59:28 This is He wouldn't ain't be there to spin on You see it would have been in jail Spitting on other dicks Hey man that's true That's right Hey yo listen to me Bro listen man
Starting point is 01:59:36 This is big folks Kevall came through Moneyman Third eye And then my brother here CBMG Grego Fax man You listen to me
Starting point is 01:59:45 This is no jumper Coolest podcast in the world Real Chicago niggas That's still in Chicago And everywhere else For that matter Because the bread takes you, it makes you limitless.
Starting point is 01:59:53 Mm-hmm. Yo, we out of here, man. Peace.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.