Big Yavo on Growing up in Alabama, Webbie Flow, No Cap, YBN Nahmir & More
00:00No jumper.Coolest podcast on the world.I'm in here today with a man, Remo,and we're sitting down to have a conversation with Alabama's very own Big Yevo.How are you living, man?No, I'm good, brother.Appreciate you for having me.No, I'm hyped because we did, there was a no-cap vlog that we did like almost three years ago in L.A.
00:17where we went to his live show and got to have a little bit of a conversation with you.You were running around on tour, opening up for no-cap with a big fizzle.And, yeah, I've been a fan of your music for a minute.So it's good to see you moving aroundStill doing your thingWhat's going on lately in your life?To be honest, I really just crunk back upYou know how real life hit a nigga, you know
00:38It's just like, you know what I'm saying?Sometimes some people can cope with itAnd keep working some peopleHave to slow down and you feelAnd figure it outAnd I'm one of them peopleBecause I don't really got nobody in this shitSo really
00:51When real life hit himI just had to file back and play my cause type shitBut I'm back now type shitSo real life.in terms of like crazy street type drama where you having any difficulties with the law was it label shit like what was going on your life all right he's everything all of the bull how you reach up playing all little bulldamn okay that's crazy um so all right when you did fall back what type of shit you were doing just to fall back likejust getting right with myself bro yeah for show playing the game that's one of the things i do to keep my mindbusy, but a lot of shit, bro, working, trying to invest.
01:30Being with my kids, mo.Shit like that.So you invest your money outside of rap, though?Yeah, for sure.Most definitely.What kind of stuff?I book another artist shit.I had invested to a club.
01:44I got a lot.I invests a lot of places for real, for a lot of little side shit.You know, because this shit will slow down on him.So that ain't nothing new.Who put you down to that?Because, you know, a lot of black peoplewe don't really havethat many entrepreneurs
01:58that could show us the ropes.My uncle.Shout out,shout out Chris,Christopher.My uncle,for show,he in the club business.
02:06Shit,and he's been having this shitgoing onand he was trying to get something new.So I was like,damn,this makes,it just makes sense if I,
02:13you know what I'm saying,put my bread in with you,and we come togetherand figure something out.So it was,it was just somebody I knewthat Ben had their motiongoing,
02:23and I was like, damn, I'm trying to investand get in where I feed it in type shit, you know?That's something I'm still working on figuring outbecause I feel like I got the YouTube thing and everything.And then it's like,I know people who own a bunch of houses or apartmentsor they have some other side businesses,like completely disconnected.
02:39And it sounds great,but also it's like you kind of have to be willing to multitaskand like be able to take your eye off your main thingand like put some attention over here.And traditionally I never really been able to do that.And that's, you know,they get hard.trying to level out the money, the income, you know what I'm saying?
02:56Especially when you, your main focus is one thing, which is music.Right.Because when you're coming up, you're looking at music as like, this is the one thingthat's going to save me and make me somebody who's not just a regular guy.Exactly.And so it's like, you know, you're so used to putting 100% of your effort into that.For sure.I mean, with anybody, like, if you cut grads and your being, your grad can't company
03:18doing the most, the most normal's, you're going to put your, you know what I'm saying?You're going to put all your focus right.does so rap bringing in the most money you know what I'm saying so but now I'm exploring real estateyou know what I'm saying you know what I'm saying like once you look at other options andsee what it can do I'm saying it'll figure something was that a part of your chief club because beingfrom Alabama there ain't too many rappers that come up out of there so but you know book an artistand stuff was it the thing where you was booking artists and maybe opening up for himno no it was after the fact after the fact oh yeah but smart man like when my my mo and my
03:50shit starts slowing down I still just hate yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeahI ain't just flat, you know what I'm saying?Even when the music store, I ain't never just been,just, look up flat.But you started using some of your rap money to book other rappers, though.Yeah, that's more, smart man.But even, like, the biggest rappers, they're in your face,they drop an album, they tour,
04:06and then they're just gone for, like, six months or a year.That's the old-school way of doing it.It's kind of, like, take frequent long breaksso you can, like, be creative and kind of make the people miss youand then come back, even though, I don't know,like a lot of...I feel like you can't do that until you get to a certain peak.That's why I feel the bit.
04:22And I wouldn't say fuck thoughbecause I didn't try to do it intentionallyLike it was real lifeBut I don'tWhatever you're going throughAny artistsYou know what I'm sayingYou're watching this
04:29Whatever you're going throughAnd you know what I'm sayingYou're doingYou focus on musicOr they don't got to be musicYou focus on footballDon't don'tDon't fall away from it
04:37And try to deal with real lifeMan go harderLike make that shitBig motivationBecause that's what I should have didDifferentBut everybodyEverybody do shit different
04:44You know what I'm sayingSo let's go throughThe early daysOf Big EvoSo tell us a little bitAbout your upbringingAnd what your householdwas like that you grew up in?
04:54It was just me and my mama.Well, it was me, my mom and my sister at first,like when I first came up,then she,and I moved my grandma,and it was just me,my sister and my grandma and my granddaddy,and I moved back with my mom and the same shit.
05:13But it was like,it wasn't,it wasn't just bad as hell.I ain't going to say that.I stayed in the hood.I'm from the hood, of course.We didn't get everything.on it, but it wasn't just that bad.
05:23Like, a nigga had an option.You know what I'm saying?A nigga had an option.But it just, everything and what you want in the house.Everybody won't want more out of life, so.Right.Like my mama and my grandma and my auntie, I ain't do right by me or tell me what to do.They did.
05:36I just chose to do the wrong shit.So your pops was around?No, hell, no, my pops was locked up.He was before he got locked up.Oh, really?Okay.Yeah.Damn.
05:43So did you keep much of a relationship with him?Yeah, we cool.Okay.I was here.I was with him.I was just with him.I just went to a show with him.Oh, okay, so he's out now.
05:51Yeah, he out now.Okay.That's what I.Do you have a memory of, like, listening to a lot of music in your house growing up,or was that part of your upbringing?Hell, yeah.That's my piece, like, well, one of my pieces, like music, like, that shit is so your mind.Just keep the busy, you know?
06:09Been listening to music, been listening to music, been hopping in the car with,he bumping some shit, hopping the car with granite, she bummed my gospel,his music air was, you know, man.That shit ain't stop in my house.What kind of artists in particular?And did you remember, like, just, like, really gravitated towards the rap stuff?Nah, because, like, I said, it was, if anything, bro, I supposed to have been the gospelsinger, like, I was with Granny and my auntie them and they was, like, in church.
06:30They had you at the church.Facts.You were singing in the gospel?Yeah, no.And they had you in the choir?Yeah, no.He was just with me.I just, my auntie just told me I was in the choir.
06:39I was like, no.She was like, you would.I was like, so I was singing.She was like, no.You were playing bullshit.Like, you know what I'm saying?But, hell, nah, like.all that shit music.
06:50That's what I came around, like gospel, church songs, church music, old school, R&B, rap.Like, it wasn't nothing particular in my house.Definitely.So now that you've had a chance to kind of like travel the world and everything,when you look at Alabama and the environment that you grew up in,how does it compare to a lot of other places that you've been in shit?Because when you're young, you can't really tell the world shit about where you're frombecause it's just what you're used to.
07:15But now that you've kind of got more of a perspective, like what was it really like?That shit different.That's the trenches.I can't lie.Like, this shit,peaches and cream.And I ain't saying, like,peaches and cream,
07:26because I know shit gets crazy.Like,I ain't saying,like,it's sweet.And then,because Kelly liked that.But I'm talking about
07:31as far as the community,like,even what the,even what the trenches are down here,it still look better.You get what I'm saying?Right.Man,
07:39I came from,like, shit.Like,it ain't shit,duh.Yeah.There's not nothing to do that,but a few things.
07:46Like,I mean,there's just,like,areas down south because I was just inHouston and Dallas doing like different vlogsI've seen you.On my life I've seen you.
07:54Oh geez.But like the reason why it stands out to me is just that like the population is a lotless like per area.So it's like California, yeah, it's like you might have your super grimy ass areas withcrazy gang shit or whatever.But it's also like a lot of people in a relatively small area whereas like down souththere's so many areas that are damn near dead where it's just like nothing.And it's just like a different.
08:17And that's exactly what I mean.You know exactly what I'm saying.Like, that's a good way to compare.Because, like, even where, like you said, even where down here where the bullshitshit is going on there, it's still a lot of people.Like, what a bullshit is down now is a lot of people and it's place where they'reshit at.But I'm not from, like, folks think, we countries here.
08:34Like, in Belmont, like, I'm from dirt roads and shit.Like, no, like, I'm from the city.Okay.Like, a city port.I got a city.We're from the city.But it's still places like my other partner from Houston.He was in Mobile.
08:45Ryan with me one night.he was like manI see why niggas get killedlike it ain't no lights like it's just a darkass street like a nigga can do it right herelike it ain't no fuckingit ain't you know how some peoplegot cameras on man it's a
08:58it's streets where it ain't shityeah like it's meant for you to get killed right herelike we went to a trail ridewhen we were in Houstonwas basically kind of like a block partywithout the block like it's just a big assfield basicallyand when we showed up
09:12we're with Maxo and Cartel Bowwhen we show up and they're like damn yeahsomebody gotkilled here, like, right before we got here.I'm like, are you fucking serious? And they're telling meabout it, and I'm like, just realizing, like,oh, like, whoever did it's getting awaywith it. Because we're in this giant fucking field,
09:27like, unless they're crazy as hell. Like, I don't knowwhat I'm saying. They could get away, orget caught up for it. And that shit be soit's so reachable. Like, yeah.Places like that, like, rolls like that. Like,nigga, we can turn right here. You feelme? Like, you don't got to go far to donothing. But the opposite of that is New York
09:43City, where you want to shootsomebody good fucking luck. It's on18 cameras that justIt's going to be in front of the whole worldOn GodLike that's where it separate us fromBigger cities like Cali in New YorkLike it's easy to get away with shit
09:57For sureI'd say thatSo being from AlabamaWho was you likeMusically looking atTo know that you could do it yourselfUmDobie
10:07CappRalloI ain't on cap likeI seen myMan I was in school with CalI was in like I've been knowing any peopleI was,like,
10:17like,I know in Rallo.Yeah.So he's somethingthat was likeyour age and you're seeing himcoming up before you.That shit motivated me.
10:23Mm.Like seeing him go up.Like I used to,I watched Kelp go up.Like,I watched that shit like,from,from nothing.
10:30That's why I want to stoppeople be hanging.Like,that shit really made me like,damn,this nigga lives is here.He's just going up.Like,
10:34who's just in school?You know?Like,I'm like,damn,this nigga was just right here.I know I can do it.That was the high school together?
10:41Yeah.I know in 1940.I've been,like,been,I ain't gonna say well,but I've been bumping it to him somewhere,like just hooping,
10:49like,you know what I'm saying?Like, just see the shit.That's a cool person.Way back.Him and his brother.For him.Like him,
10:55him kind of like having,you know,him being like a role modelor him somebody that's kind of likeshowing you the game is a good example toobecause he's like pure talent.A lot of people come up off a bunch of bullshitand goofy shit these days,
11:07but he's like one of the most talented dudes in the game.Exactly.Definitely.Was there anybody like,older that you looked at from your areathat made you feel like it was possible?Rallo.Rallo, yeah, yeah.
11:17Rallo for sure.I've been in the barbershopand seen Rallow wait on his ride type shit.Really?Yeah.Shit like that.That's motivation.How did you first get in the studio?
11:29Like me?Yeah, like how'd you first even put a song together?You remember?Yeah.My cousin used to cut hair at a barbershop.It was like 2015.I was just backed up.That's when I couldn't wrap, though.
11:41Like, I don't know what them songs at type shit.Just rapping.I took you a wrong in here, though.Yeah, hell, yeah.Like, none of that came out, went no one, nothing.Like, that's when I first got in the studio.But when I took it serious with, like, 2019, like, I started getting in that booth, like, 2019.And I started dropping, like, 2020.
12:01So what's the game plan, though?Because, you know, being from a small town, ain't really too many outlets or media outlets to get you.Man, I already had clout in the city.So, yeah.So instantly, when you were driving, you're going to be.dropping music, everybody just gravitating towards it.I ain't gonna say like I was dead famous, but like,hell yeah.
12:16In school and shit, like, nigga being getting likes and, you know what I'm saying?Like, that matter.Like, niggas knowing you, like, when I saw, when I dropped,niggas I already knew me.It went hard for it to spread.You know what I'm saying?Like, I already kind of had like a little popular, you know what I'm saying?I wouldn't say I was just popular as hell with, like, at school.
12:31Nick wasn't just lame, like, damn to the whole school,knew it a little, nigga.Yeah.I mean, it's like two ways where it's either you blow up and like your whole,like, you're the popular kid in school or, like,school's fucking with you and then the lame key but then you have you're the weird kid wholike puts their shit online and the other weird kids online relate to it and then yourneighborhood got to kind of catch up exactly yeah I was the other way I've seen both
12:53versions but over the years for sure so what's all you put out that started uh gain youattention outside Alabama it was like all right this shit gone um I said no PIN my firstvideo I don't know that my friend I don't think it was my first video but it was one of myfirst video no PIN for show but when I firstdrop, I was getting like 20K.Oh, instant.Audio.Yeah.
13:15No video.I was real, like two weeks, 20K.And that's kind of, that's super good system.That's a lot.Nobody ain't doing that.Thousand, thousand subscribers.Like, this fresh, me and, me and my partner,Richie So I said, we was rapping.
13:28Like, we making a song.We're going to the studio every night.Like, we locking in putting this shit together.Sharing his platform on me, like, his fan fuck with me,my fan fucking with him.Kept just kept dropping.And I'm pushing up to the clothes,opening up.
13:42No cap.For artists and shit.Like, anybody come to the city?I'm pushing up, opening up.So that was a big part of your strategy?Yeah, because then nobody know my shit.Yeah.I don't God, I remember one show we went to,
13:53then nobody know my shit, but we were deepbefore singing that shit, like rapping that shit,word for word.And that's how, like, you know,rappers impressed all the rapists,networking and shit.Like, brad, if you got 10, 15,niggas rapping the same thing?
14:07Like, did you're like a choir, bro.Somebody's going to pay attention.Yeah.Yeah, niggas in that hole, like, you feel him?Like, paying attention now, like, you know what rappers came through Alabama early onthat you, you know, probably opened up for it during that time?I know for sure I opened up for Cinco, but he's from Alabama.Yeah.
14:28It was somebody else, bro.I forgot.It was an artist, though.But I don't remember the nigga night.But that was more so the strategy, like, I'm just keep hitting the club, Mark.In the club.Even when the artists don't come.Yeah.
14:40I might perform.on the Tuesdays and shit just in that bitch bro.Like, you know what I'm saying?I did that.Yeah, because when I was just, again, I was just in Texas,it's like, we're at a show.It's a big X show.And then there's like other artists that are performing before him.
14:54And I'm like kind of thinking like, oh, okay, this is like a paid opener type situation.Because like in L.A., like I just don't really go out enough to like really see it.But you're really seeing dudes getting sections.They got all their jewelry.They got girls with him.And it's like they're aspiring rappers.And you're kind of like watching it.And like, I always hear about it.
15:11but I don't really like see it in front of my face that often,but that definitely like in these markets,especially like,like,I feel like there's the whole like chitlin circuit where basically like there's just tons of moneyto be made just traveling down south.Like did you have like a lot of artists kind of coming through your area to perform at a,uh,
15:28uh,like before you popped off like,could you kind of consistently see artists or not really?Nah.That wasn't really like that.Okay.I mean,it was,
15:36but before I start like,they were,it was artists getting booked,but like,Like I said, it ain't take me long.Like, you know what I'm saying?Like, no bullshit.Like, I probably did, like, five shows for four-star anore-in-me.
15:48And three of them probably wasn't nobody in that bitch.You get what I'm saying?Right.No cap.Like, real shit.Like, probably only two of them had a full club.Definitely.So, um, what kind of kid were you in high school before the rabbit shit took off?
16:01Like, were you somebody who was, like, really outside getting into trouble and shit?Or were you kind of focused?He was playing sports, wasn't it?I played baseball.I wanted to play baseball.I wanted to play football.football, but coach ain't fool with me, like, as a football player.Like, he fucked with me as a person.
16:16But I don't feel like he wanted me, like, around his team.Like, there's no cap.Like, on Jesus Christ, Coach McCackage, like, I don't know.We just ain't really get along on the football side.But I play baseball for sure.What did you explain?What position?First, third, shit like that.
16:29I was five fucking baseball.But, like, as far as, like, a student, like, I don't know.I wasn't, I was definitely getting into the dumb shit,but I wasn't just one of them niggas who's fortunate in either, though.Like, just drive forward.forcing it just I don't know how to explain it like a nigger get into some shit but it won'tbe on no force shit like we probably go to a part of some getting the fight in a shootoutshit like shit like in school I used to go to school try to do my work bullshit shit and clad clown
16:56joking like I was that kind of like I was you feel was it like I feel like I feel likebaseball is kind of like a weird sport and rap because it's like it is such a gigantic sport butthen in hip hop people don't really talk about baseball like that they talk aboutbasketball and maybe football.But I was, me and my,me and my cousin came upout baseball, like,his uncle,
17:19shit, my granddaddy,like they always had uson the baseball trip,like,and I loved y'all,I fell in love with the shit.And I played footballand basketball too,
17:26but that was my favorite sport.No lie,like,I always love baseball.I don't know why.Did the baseball dreamskind of died with the musicor was it before that?
17:34Yeah, he was waiting for that.Oh, okay.I knew I wasn't going to gono down when baseball.Just the same effect of schoolI went to that bitchin the middle of the hood.And the people,
17:41when we do play good people, we can't blow it out.You know what I'm saying?I knew that shit went working, but hey, I was out of class.Damn, them winning through Friday early.Baseball, we had a game every day.That was the finesse.I had the whole, I told all my niggas, bro, I need to play baseball.We're going to get out of class dumb early.
18:00I had the baseball team to the gym.12 o'clock.We just got to school.Also, like, I would personally probably rather play baseball just because of the factthat like I don't really feel like I could be running up and down a court for that long.Baseball is kind of more my status.I'm just chilling until the ball comes your way and then you got to figure out what to do.Exactly.
18:20But the new project is, you have a project that's like baseball themed.Like you've kind of worked that into everything.Yeah.A dinger or a dinker?Dingers.Dingers.Yeah.What is that exactly?
18:31When you hit it, right?Yeah.A good hit.Preferably at home run.Right, right.Why did you decide to like make that the theme of the project?Um, well, when I be coming on my part of that name, it'd be on some spur of the mom and shit.Like, whatever comes to my head, I don't be trying to overthink shit, you know what I'm saying?
18:48I really named the dingers and it was just going to be an album cover of me in a big-ass crowd when I, like a match pit when I had a show.I'm like, man, I'm just make it about baseball because even though that's not what it's about, but I love a sport.So I merged them, but it's really based off like hits.Just a bunch of hits.No, definitely.So, okay, so everything started, like, the music kind of takes off relatively quickly.Do you start just getting reached out to by all the labels and everything right away?Or, like, how did that kind of unfold?
19:19Mm-hmm.Probably, it took me like probably five months.Mm.No bullshit.By five months, they started hearing me up, rappers, labels, all the kind of shit.How did you all decide who you wanted to sign with?I had talked to a couple of people.And then, like, the people who I showed, they were just,
19:35cool as hell they went on noyou know what I'm feeling like we just cameinto agreement on all of the realshit was run down sodefinitely what was the craziestartist that reached out to you in terms of youjust being a little bit shocked that they were tapping inI say offset but that's when I first
20:01started rapping though so it was kind ofcrazy you feelbut was he trying to sign you or he was just showingof oh okay he was trying to sign mewhere he would get hit to you at where we'rerunning, where you're running an offset?I ain't running through.Yeah, he's DM.
20:15But he showed you where he was paying attention to you from?No, he didn't.Just caught on.All set, be paying attention, though.I was like, I had like 30,000 follows on Instagram.Were you just sprung like, damn, I want to sign to him right away or were you already, like, I don't know.Like, I got away my absence.I don't lie, I went, I went sprung, but I was for show, like, I was happy.
20:37Like, damn, this opposite.You know what I came up listening and I was it, bumping this shit on the way to school.So that shit definitely was likeDamn this shit hard to fuckBut now I went anxious to sign to himBecause I already had people reaching outThrowing crazy ass dealsYou know what I'm saying?
20:50Like he said some shitLike he said some shitI was thinking about itBut you knowShe justOther shit happenedIt wasn't no GD thingYou know down south
21:00We got GD vice storesI don't blameAll right for sureAll set be tapped in with all the GDsIt seemed likeIt might be I don't knowI don't buy in thoughSo I don't feel like it was no
21:10I ain't related shitI was just all the musicstraight upWhat y'all relationshipNow?Y'all talk or?No, I'll talk to himYou got industry friends
21:20How you feel about like industry friendsAnd shit like that?Fuck noNot reallyWhy do you think that isNot at allWhy do you think that isLike you just haven't really
21:29You don't put a lot of effort into itYeah, noThat's probably whyRightI ain't doing no dick aroundI ain't gonnaI'm like DM a niggaYo, this work does it
21:37I ain't fin of itoverdo it.That's it.I don't just,I don't extend my hand like this.I feel like it was dream when you'll come,you know?That's a weird part about like being in the music business
21:49is that anybody who knows what's going on will tell youthat it's all about relationships.It's all about having connections to peopleand these people will look out for you, etc.And like,we can all think of people that are high up on the rolling loud flyerevery year.And it's like,
22:03they ain't really hot like that,but they got a good relationship or they make people like them,et cetera.Meanwhile, like, if you're the kind of person that really just kind of stays to yourselfor is more like only interacts with people that you really have a real relationship with,I mean, that shit does kind of hurt you in the long run, which is, it's a weird balance.Like, do you just want to be yourself or do you want to really get serious about playing the game?I ain't a lot.
22:27See, that's what separates me from this shit because I don't really care for it like that to do all that.You know, like something like I, like if you want to be a superstar, do that.But I don't care for it.there's all my kids I don't like if somebodycome to me right now and offer me a bunch of moneyto stop rapping and disappearand delete all my social media I do itI don't really give a fuck by being
22:47like you see like come on broyou feel I don't get no for just being honestlike so that's that's whatI feel like that's what separate mefrom different people like I don't I'm not goingtake their extra stillpush up on nobody pay 50,00060,000 no
23:03I'm not doing it. I'm just notI'm sorry I'm not fend to push up on nobodyand get them my hard earn moneyso we can pump fake it with each otherand you can do them to videoact like you fuck with meI keep y'all hard and it's over withYeah because I see that all the time
23:19where somebodyFook no pays an artistWhatever 50KNot you're mad at themBecause y'all didn't become best friendAnd you literally paid that artist100 grand to pretend that he was friends with youFor afternoon to shoot this music video
23:31To trick the fans into thinking that you're on this rapper's levelBecause the fans aren't really with it enoughTo understand how this worksBut talk to them.Let's be real.I've seen a lot of people who did that exact move.And then they get mad at them.Yeah.
23:44But some people get mad at them.Yeah.Like I get mad.Like they're down, lock in with them a double back.That's not what his ears, though.Like in today's where it's not like that.Like, y'all, coworkers, bro, like this shit.You feel?
23:58You ever go to a show and you see like there's two artists on the bill and like theheadliner got songs with like a couple of different artists that are on the bill?And you would think that they would be.and that they would be hanging out or whatever,and you see them backstage,and you realize, like,these motherfuckers don't even know each other.I mean, hey, it is what it is.
24:16It's just the beating.It's just the business.We're working.No.Do your management or your label get madthat you want to play that little play games?Because, you know,you kind of hinder you if you don't want to play the little politics.
24:26Right a half times, bro.Cuevo didn't hit me.Like, hey, push up on me real quick.I was down.I ain't, I was dusty.Like, I wouldn't say douched.I had on, like, a Nike jumpsuit.I ain't had my jure, no hair cut.
24:37I'm just that type of nigga, bro.I move off, like, genuine.Now I'm going to say genuine course.Quavo won genuine nigga.Like, he'd hit me.Like, you feel me?He didn't play in my music around people before.Like, hit me up, told me to push up.
24:50But I just go out like, is it meant?You know what I'm saying?I was down bad.Like, just in the studio.Hey, Quavo Ted, put up.They're like, man, bro, this one in the lifetime.I said, bro, this one in the lifetime for y'all.Like, you know what I'm saying?
25:02This shit, if it's meant, it'll happen.Like, if this is once in a lifetime,then how much do I really?want it. Like, if it's really an opportunity, then it should be an opportunitythe next day or next week or whatever, too, right?That's how I look at shit. That's just how I am, bro. Like, and mymanager should be on my head by shit. I'm about to say the managerside be pissed off. Yeah, he'd be like, bro, you got, this, like, this game
25:22you got to play, man. Like, I know you. Like, my manager's eventold me one time, like, bro, I know you're like kissing there.Bro, that's why I'm just going to do it for you. Like,because I know, I just see you. I ain't friendly.You know, but I wouldn't say I ain't friendly, bro. I just go out withgenuine love like I don't force shit bro right I'm not gonna pay for a friendshipdefinitely um so what about like something like going on that tour with no cap when Ifirst met you like was that the first major tour that you went on for like a long period of
25:52time and did that change how you viewed the industry and everything that was the firstmajor tour it didn't change how I viewed the industry because I've been new capLike it wentThat's what I'm sayingLike it was genuineLike we do a showWe might go to the studioChill
26:08Get on the tour busBunch of bitchesLike it wasIt was genuineYou get what I'm sayingLike it wasn'tSo I wentThat ain't had shit to do
26:16With the industryDefinitelyIt changed the wayI looked at fansAnd shit like thatBigger platformJust being on the bigger stageRight
26:24And I appreciate itBut not the industryAnd different likeDemographicsYou're like in different statesAnd the audienceLooks completely differentor they act different.
26:33It's like people really,I see people crying for bro, like really love bro.Right.You know what I'm saying?So that made me look at,I'd say my career different,but not the industry or nothing like that.For sure.
26:46So how dangerous is it actually performing in Alabama?Because I saw that you got shot at a show one time.Mm-hmm.What actually went down with that situation?I feel like it's dangerous here or well.Just being honest.And I was just sleeping for real, for real.Really?
27:01Yeah.But I ain't likeThat was one of my first showsI was just telling you aboutLike that was one of my first showsOh so it was real early onYeah a nigga ain't had no gun on themJust did a show
27:11And then it was real on someNiggas just jumped out shootingThat everybody touched shitLike the whole crowdYou said the nigga wasn't even lookingWhen you're blownI don't know what the fuck he would doI wasn't looking
27:22I tried to get my head downBut damn one of your first showsThat got to be tough thoughYeah yeah that was toughWhere you get hit atIn my backI ain't even knowI was shot.
27:32But that's got to be a crazy thing, too, about going on tour is that when you're at home,you can move the right way that you want to move or whatever.But then as soon as you're like in L.A.and you drove there on a tour bus and shit like that.Now, I mean, you could have security and shit like that, but it's like completely differentworld in terms of how you're moving around or protecting yourself, especially with having jewelry and everything.It's great, though.Erewell, like, I got people air well.
27:58Like, here like, niggas, I got somebody I tap in with.check in, whatever you want to call.I got somebody.When I get the Cali,when I first came down here,my jeweler told me,like, hey, bro,I see you in Cali.
28:10Don't think the pawn.Don't let the pawn tree fool you.Don't get you a gun.Get what?I went and got me a gun from my plug.I pushed up on my plug,gave me a gun.So we beat militant everywhere.
28:21Yeah, and that show wasn't,that was in Alabama, though,when you got.Yeah, it's worse.I feel like it's more dangerous at home.Yeah.All the shows I had at homein the business shoot up.
28:30Because, you know, even the famous Boosy quote, he'd be saying, you know,there's more problems where you're at.Yeah, yeah.Because you got the song Webby Flo.Mm-hmm.And so how did that song even come about?I fuck with Weber.Tough.
28:43Like, that's one of my niggas.I grew up listening to with Unkin shit.Yeah, being from down south, Webby and Boosy, like, the staples down, you know what I'm saying?You feel, me?Like, that shit.Nigger, I had a Webby or I had a Boosy.Like, the hell could.Like, nigga, that was the way.
28:58You feel?That's what I grew up on.Weep and Boisie and Boisie.No, 100%.Did you ever get theMeet Webby-O-Busie?Yeah, I'm mid-Webby.What was talking about?
29:06Who's supposed to be in the video?Damn, I would have been hard.Yeah.You just didn't work out?I really don't even want to speak on because it should have blow you.Wait, well, why?It'll blow you.It sounds crazy.
29:21Yeah, I ain't going to do it.It was on his behalf, your behalf.Because he said you.All right, for so.Yeah.Damn, but so was he appreciative of the fact that youkind of like help keep his name ringing and everything.I know he's like a local legend down there
29:34and everything, but it felt like to a lot of people that mighthave kind of reminded people about Webby.I don't know. Because like when I met him, I shook his handand shit. And then when Ilooked up, I ain't see him no more.Oh, really? So you felt like he waskind of fake? No, him. I wouldn't say fake.I ain't going to say fake because he
29:50dabbed me up. I told him why.He was in Alabama.We were deep, y'all. We were deep as hell.Yeah, y'all niggins get him.y'all niggas out there with those switches or whatever to fuck.But we didn't come on that, though.We was on something.Like, that's big, like, I ain't on like,
30:06that's big brother.Like, I fuck away with it.But you still know, sometimes you go down south,like even Boosie got shot in Texas.Yeah, I feel like he was just on it.Like, I don't feel like he was scared or nothing,but he was just like, he ain't fuck with the vibe.He wasn't feeling the vibe of the video.
30:19He had to get up out of there.But yeah, it would seem like,y'all got some Alabama drill shit going on to Alabama, man.I'm seeing, I'm like, damn, I ain't know what was going on.I've been seeing, uh, you and some nigganamed De Niro going back and forth.The nigga made a diss song.Now, you had dropped the song called I'm him,
30:34and I guess he flipped it.And then that's when you dropped the,what's it called, free?No, fat.Facts.Yeah, so what, you know?I dropped Facts before he dropped the,oh, so it's the opposite way around.
30:43So how you feel about, you know,niggas dissing the songsand responding and shit?I mean, everybody, to each his own,like, it don't make me feel no way.Like, you just be blowing me for real for it because I don't know him.Yeah, but I've seen DMs where it seemed like,y'all was about to work
30:58and do some music together at one point.he was hitting you up.Yeah, he would definitelyhim me up.Also, yeah, I never really got to lock in before.Right, shit.Because my producer, Laura, she was telling me,she's like, hey, do you want to interview Big Yevo tomorrow?
31:11I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's do it.And then I get on YouTube, and I had no idea.And I started, like, kind of doing my research.And I'm like, oh, all right, he's wrapped up in some shit.And it's kind of, like, interesting because I feel like you're somebody who,you got a ton of talent and you could make noise without having to do all the beefingand shit.But that shit just kind of,
31:29If I have the dissing a nigga to get a buzz, I don't need it.Screw up.But it's...To each of it's on.Like, I don't know about none of that shit they'd be talking about.I'm from O'bill.Yeah.Straight up, like, just telling you right now, clean my face.
31:43Maybe have me in a bunch of shit.I ain't got nothing to do with, I don't know.Because that'd be Burma-am shit?I ain't from now.But how you get tired?You must have just affiliation.No, I moved out when I was younger, for sure.But I don't know what they'd be talking about.
31:55Like...Because they were saying that you were like,they was like, oh, this nigga's trying to, like, back out of, like,fucking with some of the homies or some shitbecause you made the post likenigga I'm not in that shitbut it's like all your homiesI guess is in there tight shit
32:05but it makes senseyou being from Mobileyou're like nigga I ain'tI don't be tryingI just love lifelike I ain't trying to go to jailyeahI'm saying
32:13I ain't trying to goyou knowso you can'tso you can'tlike all that policethat internet shityeahI don't know
32:20but sometimes you get in itbecause I seen you on livewith a nigga Vitoor some shit y'ally'all going back and foryou from Mobile or Birminghamyou're from Birminghamall right so you from
32:28man, what the fuck?I see y'all arguing about some shit.It just be, you know,a nigga might fall under the trap sometime,but hey,I'm on a point nowwhere I'm just,I ain't doing that no more
32:38because that's how I get in shitwhen I respond.So, yeah.I mean,I feel like there's been like a chilling effectbecause of shit like the YSL RICO,the dirt RICO,shit that never really happened,
32:51but the little baby shit.Like,I think that kind of scared a lot of peopleand to realize,and like,oh, if we do have shit going on in the streets,We probably should not be putting this shit in the music.Now, obviously, you still got plenty of drill artists that do it and shit,
33:03but it feels like to a lot of people,they kind of smartened up because of that.I've never been a drill artist, though.I ain't never said, nothing by no nigger,never dropped no name and no song.It never will.You can't pull up a song, even with that.What you're talking about?
33:16I ain't never, I don't know.He ain't really saying no name specifically.I don't know him.Yeah.So if something happened to him, I don't know him.Yeah, now you ain't ever say no names.It's just the aura behind it.It just, you know, people, the fans come with it.
33:27Yeah, the fans.I'm like, I'm the largest from now.That's one thing you can't say.You kept telling me, like, man, go inside your house.Look at the hill sillings.You just basically tell me.Like, I'm on some old shit, bro.I ain't with it.
33:37I ain't with that scree shit.I'm trying to get a hundred me.So you feel like a target, though, with you being like,you know what I'm the largest from now.Yeah.It's like, you're else they're going to go with.You're just a cloud opportunity waiting to happen for a lot of people.Who else they're going to go at?
33:51Yeah.And even if they don't got a real beef with you, it's like, well, shit, wewe better find out of it.to make one.Who wish they're going to go with?But it ain't been never a situation where you try to help the niggas,and then I guess they wasn't receptive of the help,or you ain't never really looked their way.
34:08So, I mean, I don't know him, but, yeah, of course, like,just life, people around me for sure.Hell, yeah.That's life.Because I asked, bro, I seen it because I know y'all,I guess Gigi or whatever.I thought the Gigi shame was the same thing, but that ain't the same.Is what?
34:22I know y'all be claiming Gigi or some shit,but he got a shame called Gigi, but he said they ain't the same thing.Yeah, that's a ass him.That's Glitch Guard.All right, so put me down.What that mean?His boys guerrilla ground, right?And that's with show G.
34:35Yeah.That's my regular label, but I switched it to Clover Boys.All right.That makes sense.Tell us who your homie is.Oh, so?This is called on.He's from Megan Georgia.
34:48What's the word, man?How long you guys been tapped in?About what?Four five, yeah.Five year.For sure.You met him doing the feature.Oh, okay.
34:57Like that.And we're locked in and saying then.Okay,I just turned into a real relationship from there.Shit,crazy.Damn.See,
35:03hey,that's the value of doing a feature is that you might just make a friend thatactually works in the long run.Yeah.I feel like that's what a lot of rappers are kind of counting on when they do the feature.That's why you were saying that they get kind of salty when it doesn't turn into anything.Fex.Yeah.
35:17I was just with the Gigis in, uh,in Toronto,which is go get them gang.Go get them gang.It's a little aggressive,right?Damn.G.
35:25G.Gigi.Shout out to them boy.Yeah, they'd be awesome.Crazy shit.Yeah, yeah.But, so did you ever,did you ever make contact with YBN Namir at any point?
35:39Or was he out of there before you started rapping?What did you mean out of there?Well, he's from Alabama, too, right?Oh, yeah, he been gone.Oh, yeah.Yeah, he did.So he blew up quick.Like, he was one of the nigg that went overnight with it.
35:51Yeah.Like, you know, it don't happen like that no more.Right.Like, that was the first.SoundCloud there.Yeah.Just go.Like,
35:59and that shit was motivation, too, for real, for real.But I didn't know he was from Birmingham.Straight up.But you were young, so that motivated you at all?Nah, because I went rapping.Okay.It was just hard.I was like, when I found out he was in Birmingham, I'm like, damn.
36:13That was kind of motivation, but not for it, like, rapping.So I guess in Birmingham, they didn't really look at him as a Birmingham or Alabama, nigga?Because, like, I guess when he, his motion kind of went so fast and he moved to California,that was kind of giving him to California.How many people do you?Yeah.You know how people do you.You said you was young, nigga.
36:29You were just looking at him from being for Cali, though.You weren't really just claiming.Y'all wasn't really claiming them like that, right?I mean, I want to say claiming shit.I don't know.Like, I really don't know.Let me think.What year there was?
36:44That nigga, 2017?It was like right in the middle of all that soundcloth shit.That nigga had the hottest shit.People forget that it was like, T-K went crazy,but T-K got locked up by the time we all heard of them.and then all of a sudden it's like,oh, you got this new kid,he got like a banging-ass song
36:58and he kind of,similar to take care,like style-wise,image-wise or whatever.So I feel like that's kind of likewhat blew him up at that moment.I ain't allowed.They probably won't claiming them.
37:09Because I don't really remember,like,I just remember him going upand people being blowedthat he was from Birmingham.So you,like,bro,
37:16that's just a crazy city.Like,it's like I love my city,but it's like,it's a little hate thing,bro.It's love that,but it's hate that.
37:24to, you know.So,with anybody that go up,they're going to hounder you.If they ain't a part of,that's anywhere, bro.Like, everybody don't fuck with youfrom where you from do it.
37:35I don't even know anyonefrom where I'm from anymorebecause I've been gonefor like 20 years.You know what I hate that.They hate anybody that makes somethingout of their self,and you are nothing or nobody,
37:44you got hating bones,your body brother,you ain't going to like it.Definitely.But so, all right,people give Yben,Nimer a hard timebecause he was a Giti
37:53in high school,I guess,and then he moves out, moves to Long Beach,ends up basically joining a Crip set out here.And a lot of people give him a hard time about that.But from my perspective, it's kind of like,shit, if you've been out here banging with the same dudes for all these years.They don't do that, no more, man.
38:11They don't do that, no more, man.What, there's a combo deal?I thought.So he can help you with, he can align you with the guy and shit.I don't really know.Like, I don't know.So that's that.It used to be eight by a little.
38:25Yeah, they used to do that.Like, Cripping GD.Like, but you were saying he switched.He switched it up completely.And people were giving them a hard time on this live one time about that switch.And he said, put-ons happen.Put-offs happen.And like a lot of people were just kind of taken aback by that because that was just like,
38:47I don't know, I guess it's kind of weird as a rapper to acknowledge that you got put off of one gang so you could get put on another one.But at the same time,accent, it was like, oh, so how you flip fromGD to BD? I mean, all the grip.Oh, wow. I've seen it. It happened.Yeah. What did you mean? It happened.Yeah. I've seen it.But, okay, say you moved out here and you were just
39:06hanging out with all crips for five, six years.Is that kosher to be like,all right, I'm just going to kind of acknowledgethat this is who I'm with now?On a completely different side of the country.For me, yeah. ButI ain't, I ain't banging right now, soI can fuck who I want to fuck with it.
39:22So that's what I make it different.Like, what I say is my input on that.I don't, I don't, I don't get down in that, like just switching games.But who am I?Yeah.He is on man.That what he wanted to do, that's on him.But, hey, when I'm from, you can't do that shit.
39:40You get your ass cute.You come from, like, a hood at bang, though, or something?Hell yeah.You just chose not to, you know.Mm-hmm.Stayed out of that.Because it's been hectic, like where I was from.Like, a nigga been bumping down.
39:51Hey, where you from, Sean?Like, you feel, what you kind?What you, man, I ain't nothing like, I ain't without that.How you was able to get up out of, like, you know, having a...I'm with, I'm with familiar faces, like, I'm with originals, like, from the hood.Like, I got my partner right here who on that.I got, you know what I was younger.Like, I got a nigga who older me on that with a Glock on them.
40:09Like, a nigga went just dry.I always moving militant.Like, even when I were walking, like, no, no lie.Like, somebody had a gun.If I didn't, and I had one early, too.So, you know what I'm saying?like even when I was young and didn't have a gunsomebody around had a gun
40:25knew their knowledge likethat's just how our way movedthat's what's what I thoughtyou feel like people like saw that you had thismusical talent and motivation from early onso they kind of if anythingand then maybe try to steer you away from bad shitsee it again like in terms of people locally
40:43like did they identify that you had talentearly on and maybe we kind of want to keep you awayfrom the streets if anything because they realize how muchpotential you have noNo, I never trying to do it.They got mad when I got, like,I used to be on the block every day when I first blew up.Like, nigga, with the views and all that,
40:59I was still in the hood every day.And then when I had churns, like, I couldn't be on the block no more.Like, I realized, like, man, I got kids.Like, fuck this block.Like, I'm going to go get some money and go home to my kids.Like, some of my nigger was stuck, though.You know what I'm saying?Like, they didn't get it.
41:12Even when they had churn, they still on the block.What up?So people kind of, I feel like people don't feel the same.They don't look at me the same because I was just right here.I was just reachable.I was just in their face every day.Right.And now I'm gone.
41:24Like you said, I ain't been there in a minute.So shit probably trying.Most of probably chained.Who gives a fuck?I better my life.How many kids you got now?Three.Three.
41:32And one baby mama or a couple?Two.Okay.And how old were you when you had your first kid?20.Okay.When?Did that totally change your mind state in terms of what you were doing with your time?
41:47Hell, yeah.I stopped playing.Soon as soon.you came.I ain't played no more.I went to send no well for too long.Like, I looked at everything.I ain't different.
41:58Like, I got to get home to bro.Like, I got to get home to my baby.Like, that was my goal every night.Like, no matter what I was doing,trapping, rapping, anything,I had to get home to bro.No, yeah, 100%.Everything just becomes a totally different calculation.
42:15Yeah, different perspective.Like, just like he was just asking me about all that shit.I don't care about that.Yeah.People making songs.He ain't the only nigga diss me.I wish him the best.Straight up.
42:24I'm just at that point in life.Like, I'm so up here, like, with peace.Yeah.Real talk.I just talked to the mayor the other day.Like, I'm on the phone with the mayor.Yeah.Niggas can't do that.
42:35You know what I'm saying?But you'd be feeling away when nigs be bringing your baby mom and shit into it, though?No, I don't.Oh, I just.What else can you say by me?Yeah.Nothing.You got to talk about another human being to get at me.
42:48It ain't, I ain't no dirt on my name, brother.So he just charged to the game.Like, you know what I'm going to come with it?I ain't growing with my baby mom.I ain't growing with my baby mom.No, one funny thing you did say was like,Nick, I only had chlamydia.Like, I guess I was, I'm gonna lie.
43:02But he goes a midsy shit.Hey, you're saying.And that nigga said it on the live.Because I guess you was talking to the veto,because I, you know, I do my homework.I'm watching the interviews.And I don't know what something.I guess you kept,
43:13the nigga kept trying to bring your baby mama into the shit.How you feel when niggis is doing all that shit?Because, you know, a small time.Everybody know everybody.it gets to me but at the timelike I said now it got to methen I don't really give a fuckYeah you kind of just
43:26You knowI'm clear aheadI realize that brother likeThat time I took offThat's when I locked down myselfAnd realize this was gonna come with thisAnd if I want to do thisI'm gonna go through this
43:37And I'm gonna have to do this soI mean having a baby mamaThat's outside or whateverIs definitely likeYou don't realize how much of a risk it isOr whatever until it's kind of in your facebecause, like, I could think of, like,there's a couple of different cheap, keep baby mamas
43:52that are running around out here,just having some cloud off of being Chief Keeves baby mama,and they're just total sewer dwellers.Like, just the, no shots, no shots.I fuck with them.But, I mean, I'm just saying, like,it's like the last chick that you would want running around,like, basically, like, claiming you.
44:08And even though he probably ain't had nothing to do with him in a long time,it's still, like, they're able to just be out here kind of.That's like the ultimate clout chase for a chick, you know?But, yeah, you've got to be careful with the baby mamas these days.Or what about the memes that people still are pumping out about dirtbecause his first baby mama from back in the day was, see what I'm saying?You know, it's just, it's coming with it, brother.And they're undefeated, man.
44:36So you said, you switch the label up.You got Clover gang as a label.Clover boys.I never had gang in my clothes.And neither one of my labels.So who, what artist you pushed?Never been a gang.What's the main artist on Clover Boys right now?
44:49I'm pushing a lot of artists.let's go vote for oneall rightjug fat boywholesaleluatumjay shouted
44:59rikop s yro rico ps ys i promoit's a lot of niggas thatain't even clover who i'm pushing so they ain't about thatit's a lot of peopleniggins to get in tune tothe richard's ho iceythe list goes on
45:12do you feel like Alabama slept ongenerally speakingfor surethis is a big opportunity you think to like be able tokind of spread a lot of these artists and sort ofcreate a movement coming out of there?Yeah, definitely.What do you think are going to change the narrative, though,
45:24to get more people talking about Alabama,you know, getting y'all in more light?Niggas just got to come together,and that's what niggas don't want to do.That's what I'm saying.You think it's even possible?It's possible.It's got to be the niggas who lead
45:41that's on one accordand not have no loose screws around.So, yeah, it's still OGs out there,because, you know, Chicago and other cities and shit.They ain't really know.It's like renegades.So like, he's renegade in Birmingham.Word.
45:55But y'all got a little structure where, like, some people can make shit happen,probably get to get together, though.Yeah, yeah.For sure.That'd be good for the city, you know, see everybody come together and make some music and shit.I know.But you're laughing like, it ain't happening.I wish it, I hope it do.
46:11Right.I ain't saying that ain't happening.It's just funny.But you're with it, though.You'll be, you'll do the music with everybody.Not everybody, but yeah.But some people.Yeah, I mean, you're kind of up there.
46:20So you got to, like, work with people.or on your level.I don't stress people.Yeah.And there's that too.You give them a shot.The back door always open in this shit.Have you seen that throughout your life where it's like the back door type shit just seems
46:35like it's become way more common?I feel like that's a result of like a situation where people ain't really have shit.So they got to come up with like more devious evil ways to get something out of somebody.And that's basically like winning over their trust long term as opposed to just, you know,walking down on a random person.It's definitely like that nowIt's more like that nowI don't know why
46:56How important is it for youTo bring your people with youBecause I see you got all your people out in the lobbyIt's not important at allYou don't got toBecause at the end of the dayI ain't likeYou can be real as fuck
47:10You ain't gonna get shit for being realIt's just something I doBecause that's just what God put on my heartBut it's not important at allYou ain't got to do shit for usSo spell of ain't about doing that for youBut if somebody's doing a fewreturn the favor, but
47:24it's not at point at all.At the end of the day,even when you can stop,the day you stop doing somethingor bringing somebody with you,they'll show you that you color, too.So, you know,that shit ain't important.
47:36What's important is you just taking carewith your being,handling your being?What's your relationship with Big X?He cool.You guys just,I feel like a work.Like, he's a good-ass dude,
47:47like straight up.Like, and I ain't,I never spoke down about himbecause I met himactually been around.him. So he's a good dude.Like, I ain't got nothing against him. I just ain'tfuck with how he took my shit.
47:59What did he take exactly?The largest. Oh, okay.He ain't the only one.So ain't like just at him and none. It's justit's some shit I had to cope with myself.So you were saying I'm the largest as like asort of catchphrase at a certain pointand then he started running with that too?
48:16Okay. Interesting. Why I didn't even know.But he's a good dude, though. I ain't got nothing against him. II'm not going to get nothing against him. I fought with him as aperson. I just ain't like that.I'm just a nigga who stand on principles and moreI wouldn't take that from himYou know what I'm sayingDid you ever have words like
48:29What's up?No, I had said something about it on my storeAnd he replied to itWhat was his reply?He probably didn't think he took itNo, he definitely knew he took itWhat do you say?He said you just started something
48:41That's allAll right so he kind of likeA knowledgeHe acknowledged you on it thoughYeah, but it wasn't it was prideIt wasn't publicSo shit like that made me look atShit a certain way
48:52But I don't give a fuckBut also, like, if we're talking about the largest, it sounds like there can only be one largest.So it's kind of like a weird claim to fame to be sharing with someone.So I could understand how you would take it away.For sure.Interesting.People I ever be thinking you're from Texas?Yeah.
49:08Yeah.Because when I'm listening to your top songs on album music this morning and I'm like, it's got Mexican O.T.He's got big X in there.And I had to like check myself for a second.Like, wait, he's not from Texas, right?I have double check.But, I mean, is that like a scene that has been kind of.important in terms of your come up and everything?
49:25They were like one of the first seat that I hit.Dallas.I did a lot of work in Dallas.I got a lot of loving Dallas.And I didn't just Dallas, Texas, period.Like, how do people think I'm from Texas, but I'm from Belmontville?Definitely.Do you guys claim Gucci Main fully?
49:40Like, does he belong in the Atlanta Hall of Fame or the Alabama Hall of Fame?I feel like Gucci can say he's from Atlanta.Yeah.He just, he's from all.He was born.I don't know.I don't really know the history, but.I know for show, like, he used to be in Belsman and shit.
50:02But I don't know.He definitely can say he from Atlanta because that we did his footwork.Yeah, that's where he, like, really made a mark for himself.But that's kind of the question is, like, if you're, if you live in one place until you're 18,and then you take off and, like, make it somewhere else, it's kind of like, you know,so it's really something like him.We're like 20 years plus of, like, being, like, kind of thought of in that world.I don't know.
50:23I feel like he can, like, I feel like Atlanta,And Alabama claim, man.Definitely.What's the hardest part about being a rapper nowadays?What's the hardest part to you?The question is shit, you ask a nigga?Nah, but for real, I'm just like, bro.Like, just not being at being normal, shit, everything front line.
50:43Like, you know my business type of shit.You know what I'm saying?Like, shit like that.That's it.It would make you be mindful of what you put out there?Because, like, even the questions I asked,I want to know if y'all niggas wasn't putting it out that.Exactly.
50:53Exactly.That's why I said that.I ain't mad at that.number. I ain't mad at you or nothing. I'm just saying.It's definitely a learning thing.Because that's why I say I'm not on that anymore.I feel under the trap. I gave themwhat they wanted. You know what I'm saying?
51:05Just like you said, you wouldn't even know. I saidthat. Yeah. So I'm saying.So I'm just different. You just learn.You still plan on being an actor?Hell yeah. I want to get in that shit.How serious you? Like,I'm serious, bro. I was just saying, like, I want to do everything.Like, they're rapping shit cool.
51:20Like, they want to do different shit.Like, you down to go try out.I'm down.Classes and all that.All that.What if they told you that you need to lose weight?I'm going to lose weight.Anyway.
51:33You're working on it anyway.Anyway.Why exactly?Do you feel like from a health perspective or you just think of my show?But I was like, damn, I got this for all just being big Avo.I'm going to just reincarnate myself.Right.I ain't going to lay on no table.
51:47None of it.It's going to take me longer.You know what I'm saying?I don't know about that.I'm going to stay out of that.I ain't finish short cooking.I'm going to go to the gym.You know what I'm saying?
52:00Put that work in.Man.Shady.I mean, but does it seem important because of the health aspect of it?Because, I mean, like, I can't help but think I just did an interview with Chris Gotti and his brother, Irv Gotti.He passed away like six months ago.And he really was kind of mostly because he had bad eating habits.Like, even though he had a personal chef and a personal trainer, and he was still fucking around.
52:23Like, I guess, like, even when he passed.past is because he just went out to eat with a bunch of people.They ate a shitload of Chinese food.And then it gave him like a diabetic, like a spike or whatever.And they kind of, he just went into like a coma and didn't come out of it afterwards.See?Yeah.That's why.
52:38Because when you're young, you can eat what the fucking want.It probably don't matter.But as you get older, it just becomes more and more of a hazard.Exactly.That's why I'm getting on it now.Because when I go to the gym, I see a lot of old people trying to get it now.It's too late.You know what I'm trying to.
52:49Yeah.It's too late.That's why I'm trying to go on.I want to be able to have fun.my kill and I turn 40 still be loose moving around and trying to be so getting up I heard no trying to go on get on that now I'myou know what I'm saying definitely um what's it like I mean I don't know how much I should believe when I'mwatching these YouTube videos but if I were to believe them it basically says that you've lost a lot of peopleand that some of these situations are kind of the result of your rap fame that like different situations
53:20conflicts beefs kind of arise from just your success do you ever feelfeel like kind of conflicted about the fact that you experiencing all the success might createsituations that are negative for other people in your life?No, I don't feel away.Like, I feel like everything for a reason.Like,it's just life, bro.Like, you know what I'm saying?
53:40Like, that's why I had to get right with myself, locking on myself and realize, like,it's just what it come with.You know what I'm saying?And you can't let other situations impact how you feel or how your day go.because you know you can't you ain't have no control over it which i didn't so you don't make me feelno type of way but i just miss them these people i lost behind bars got lost to a grave yeah that'swhy i just made a song like opening up like just ringing them in like letting them know what anigger going through instead of sugarcoat and you know because shit like real like i ain't
54:15nothing to hide like it is what it is yeah a lot of people don't really want to show theworld the pain that they're going through because the people that they don't get along with areobviously going to kind of revel in that so it's kind of as crazy when you see somebody lose somebodyand you can tell that they don't even feel comfortable grieving publicly because they don't want itto be used against them um thanks um okay so uh what what what do you got planned as far as uh futurestuff are you like fully focused on the music right now are you even out here doing interviewsbecause you're like planning on dropping somethingin the near future?
54:51I'm just,I'm just flowing, bro.Real talk, like,in life,like,I ain't,I ain't,I'm gonna say I'm fully loaded in this shit
55:01because I'm real on some old shit,but I'm back,like,as far as, like,just doing,like,this shit,me and here talking interviews,
55:10just doing the music side of shit,but I don't give a fuck,bro.I really don't.What's the motivation nowadays?the moneythe billswhere I came from
55:21that's about itspeaking of where you came fromwho would you put on the Mount Rushmoreof Alabama rapDobbyCaldRallome
55:32solidsolid forI forgotumokayanything else that we shoulduh keep an eye out foror what you got going on
55:44you hit a billion streamson Apple musicon all timethat's a crazy numberthat's crazywhen you hear shit like thatthat shit should motivate you likeI gotta get back in the studio
55:56fix but I don't careyeahlike that should belike it's like it probablyblow you probably don't believeme like I really don't thoughlike I swear to God I don'tso the most success you've ever
56:09experienced it still doesn't reallyyou never had a moment where you likefully felt like you celebrated your successit's just always back to the groundwhy you thinkyou can't sit down and enjoy your successor,enjoy what you've been doing right now.I don't feel like I made it.
56:26That's just straight up.So what is making it to you?Honey me.She Travis Scott just gave everybody on his table a Lamborghini.Yeah.Like, me appreciate it for the future.He goes to lamb.He made it.
56:45Mosh Pit, $7,000, 70,000 people and shit.That's making it.that's real come on now i ain't these shit yet there's always more to go well okay but by the timeyou reach the end of your career when you're you know 60 70 years old like if you are onlyno like do you feel like if you're mostly like known as a hometown hero as a local star is thatgoing to be enough for you or do you feel like you need to take it to more of like a nationallevel in terms of your popularity no okayi just want the money brother straight up
57:19That's what I'mfocused onand I'm flipping this shitbecause I know this shitto slow downI know this shitwater downI know it's fake
57:26and I really don't like itbrolike it brings too muchjust likeeverything you likey'all be talking about the shitlike it justbring too much
57:36unnecessary attentionlikeand a nigga really notdoing none of thisreal talklike shit beyond the nigga namenigga ain'tlike nigga probably
57:45argue or somethingbutyeahit just comeswith too much, bro. I'd rather the next nigga blow up.But do you start me a label and get some artists?But do you think that that stress kind of takes the funout of making music for you? Or do you still,
58:01are you still able to kind of put that stuff aside and just enjoythe process?What you mean, like, the process of just making music?I mean, I enjoy the process of making the music, yeah, for sure.But, like, it'd be back to normal.You get what I'm saying? Like, say, I do a show. It's back to normalafter the show.Right.
58:20Say I got damn do a video.It's back the normal after the video.Which normal is great.Like, I'm blessed for my normal.I still have fun.I'm not going to live.I see your career.I'm like,
58:29this nigga is selling how is the moment.Yeah,I still be lit.But it's normal.Like, I don't do shit, but I'd be chilling.Like, with my chair on the game.Like, it's normal shit.Like, I'm not no, I don't get up every day, put on the whole outfit in all my
58:42juror and go up by my day and just have fun all day.That's not how I live my life.I wake up, go to the gym.you feelme, got damnview with my kids,go to the pool,play my game.
58:55Like,I live a regular life, bro.Yeah.I mean,that's normal.Like,I,it's really because
59:00I didn't got so okaywith being alone.I feel like,like,I don't really care for it.Like,I really can just sitat my home all day
59:09and be with my kids.No,it's a crazy feelingwhen you, like,or I had a meet and greetor a showor a whatever,and like,
59:17you got a hundred peopleor a thousand peoplearound you,you just hounding you, they want your attention so bad.And it just, you feel like, oh, my God, like, I'm a fucking superstar.And then you just go home and you're just playing with your kid.You're playing with Legos.And you're just like, I just went from like this moment of like pure just ego fueling.
59:34And then I just leave that.I'm just back to being like the most normal person on earth.That's kind of always like a weird, like, thing to have these two things coexisting.That's what made me know I didn't give a fuck about it because I love, I love getting done.Like I lovefinishing the showwiping my sweat outsitting down
59:54taking a deep breathknowing that I'm donefor the nightI love finishing my last songin the studioknowing I'm donefor the nightI love having a mean greet
01:00:03mean everybodyknowing I'm done for the nightyou know what I'm sayinglike I loverapping upthe music sideand going tojust being a regular person
01:00:11that's my pieceI feel like the oppositeof that is the dudeswho basically likestart getting fucked updoing drugs all the timeand shit because they want to keep chasing that high.You know, if you can do that, do the show, and then just go back to your normal life.
01:00:27I mean, I feel like that's a beautiful thing because that's where dudes, by the time they'rein their 40s and shit, dudes always kind of figure that out.But most people's rap careers aren't necessarily long enough to like see that.Exactly.It's definitely an important skill, I think, for sure.Gotta be level-headed in this shit.Because people try to live somebody else's life, too.True.
01:00:46Trying to be something than they're not.Yeah.You're trying to live like little baby, young boy and shit.I ain't on that level.Now you broke.Destined to be stressful.You got all these high-ass bills.You're paying for all these car notes and shit.
01:01:00You can't fool me up.I'm gonna sit back, chill at home and be myself,I ain't trying to fastage.Faget with nobody.You see me, though.I'm on no jury.I'm on no jump on this shit from to be on.Everywhere.
01:01:13You know what I'm gonna fuck about this shit.We already met before.You know what I'm saying?I know you can get icy.Not I get iced.I can get iced.Shout out to Remo.Shout out Big Yeva.
01:01:24Everybody go turn them up on all streaming services,follow my men's on Instagram,et cetera,so you can stay tapped in with the movement.Should we go to Alabama?You still stay out there or like in that rough area or?No.You took off.
01:01:39I'm staying Dallas.Ah, okay, okay.That's why we think you're at Texas artists sometimes too.I'm being Dallas,every singing.Definitely.That's my.Dallas.
01:01:48Dallas.Gotta love Dallas.Gotta love Dallas.All right, man.Big Yevo.Appreciate your job for having me, brother.Much love.Much love.
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