No Jumper - Big Yavo on Growing up in Alabama, Webbie Flow, No Cap, YBN Nahmir & More

Episode Date: July 18, 2025

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No jumper. Coolest podcast on the world. I'm in here today with a man, Remo, and we're sitting down to have a conversation with Alabama's very own Big Yevo. How are you living, man? No, I'm good, brother. Appreciate you for having me. No, I'm hyped because we did, there was a no-cap vlog that we did like almost three years ago in L.A.

where we went to his live show and got to have a little bit of a conversation with you. You were running around on tour, opening up for no-cap with a big fizzle. And, yeah, I've been a fan of your music for a minute. So it's good to see you moving around Still doing your thing What's going on lately in your life? To be honest, I really just crunk back up You know how real life hit a nigga, you know

It's just like, you know what I'm saying? Sometimes some people can cope with it And keep working some people Have to slow down and you feel And figure it out And I'm one of them people Because I don't really got nobody in this shit So really

When real life hit him I just had to file back and play my cause type shit But I'm back now type shit So real life. in terms of like crazy street type drama where you having any difficulties with the law was it label shit like what was going on your life all right he's everything all of the bull how you reach up playing all little bull damn okay that's crazy um so all right when you did fall back what type of shit you were doing just to fall back like just getting right with myself bro yeah for show playing the game that's one of the things i do to keep my mind busy, but a lot of shit, bro, working, trying to invest.

Being with my kids, mo. Shit like that. So you invest your money outside of rap, though? Yeah, for sure. Most definitely. What kind of stuff? I book another artist shit. I had invested to a club.

I got a lot. I invests a lot of places for real, for a lot of little side shit. You know, because this shit will slow down on him. So that ain't nothing new. Who put you down to that? Because, you know, a lot of black people we don't really have that many entrepreneurs

that could show us the ropes. My uncle. Shout out, shout out Chris, Christopher. My uncle, for show, he in the club business.

Shit, and he's been having this shit going on and he was trying to get something new. So I was like, damn, this makes, it just makes sense if I,

you know what I'm saying, put my bread in with you, and we come together and figure something out. So it was, it was just somebody I knew that Ben had their motion going,

and I was like, damn, I'm trying to invest and get in where I feed it in type shit, you know? That's something I'm still working on figuring out because I feel like I got the YouTube thing and everything. And then it's like, I know people who own a bunch of houses or apartments or they have some other side businesses, like completely disconnected.

And it sounds great, but also it's like you kind of have to be willing to multitask and like be able to take your eye off your main thing and like put some attention over here. And traditionally I never really been able to do that. And that's, you know, they get hard. trying to level out the money, the income, you know what I'm saying?

Especially when you, your main focus is one thing, which is music. Right. Because when you're coming up, you're looking at music as like, this is the one thing that's going to save me and make me somebody who's not just a regular guy. Exactly. And so it's like, you know, you're so used to putting 100% of your effort into that. For sure. I mean, with anybody, like, if you cut grads and your being, your grad can't company

doing the most, the most normal's, you're going to put your, you know what I'm saying? You're going to put all your focus right. does so rap bringing in the most money you know what I'm saying so but now I'm exploring real estate you know what I'm saying you know what I'm saying like once you look at other options and see what it can do I'm saying it'll figure something was that a part of your chief club because being from Alabama there ain't too many rappers that come up out of there so but you know book an artist and stuff was it the thing where you was booking artists and maybe opening up for him no no it was after the fact after the fact oh yeah but smart man like when my my mo and my

shit starts slowing down I still just hate yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I ain't just flat, you know what I'm saying? Even when the music store, I ain't never just been, just, look up flat. But you started using some of your rap money to book other rappers, though. Yeah, that's more, smart man. But even, like, the biggest rappers, they're in your face, they drop an album, they tour,

and then they're just gone for, like, six months or a year. That's the old-school way of doing it. It's kind of, like, take frequent long breaks so you can, like, be creative and kind of make the people miss you and then come back, even though, I don't know, like a lot of... I feel like you can't do that until you get to a certain peak. That's why I feel the bit.

And I wouldn't say fuck though because I didn't try to do it intentionally Like it was real life But I don't Whatever you're going through Any artists You know what I'm saying You're watching this

Whatever you're going through And you know what I'm saying You're doing You focus on music Or they don't got to be music You focus on football Don't don't Don't fall away from it

And try to deal with real life Man go harder Like make that shit Big motivation Because that's what I should have did Different But everybody Everybody do shit different

You know what I'm saying So let's go through The early days Of Big Evo So tell us a little bit About your upbringing And what your household was like that you grew up in?

It was just me and my mama. Well, it was me, my mom and my sister at first, like when I first came up, then she, and I moved my grandma, and it was just me, my sister and my grandma and my granddaddy, and I moved back with my mom and the same shit.

But it was like, it wasn't, it wasn't just bad as hell. I ain't going to say that. I stayed in the hood. I'm from the hood, of course. We didn't get everything. on it, but it wasn't just that bad.

Like, a nigga had an option. You know what I'm saying? A nigga had an option. But it just, everything and what you want in the house. Everybody won't want more out of life, so. Right. Like my mama and my grandma and my auntie, I ain't do right by me or tell me what to do. They did.

I just chose to do the wrong shit. So your pops was around? No, hell, no, my pops was locked up. He was before he got locked up. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah. Damn.

So did you keep much of a relationship with him? Yeah, we cool. Okay. I was here. I was with him. I was just with him. I just went to a show with him. Oh, okay, so he's out now.

Yeah, he out now. Okay. That's what I. Do you have a memory of, like, listening to a lot of music in your house growing up, or was that part of your upbringing? Hell, yeah. That's my piece, like, well, one of my pieces, like music, like, that shit is so your mind. Just keep the busy, you know?

Been listening to music, been listening to music, been hopping in the car with, he bumping some shit, hopping the car with granite, she bummed my gospel, his music air was, you know, man. That shit ain't stop in my house. What kind of artists in particular? And did you remember, like, just, like, really gravitated towards the rap stuff? Nah, because, like, I said, it was, if anything, bro, I supposed to have been the gospel singer, like, I was with Granny and my auntie them and they was, like, in church.

They had you at the church. Facts. You were singing in the gospel? Yeah, no. And they had you in the choir? Yeah, no. He was just with me. I just, my auntie just told me I was in the choir.

I was like, no. She was like, you would. I was like, so I was singing. She was like, no. You were playing bullshit. Like, you know what I'm saying? But, hell, nah, like. all that shit music.

That's what I came around, like gospel, church songs, church music, old school, R&B, rap. Like, it wasn't nothing particular in my house. Definitely. So now that you've had a chance to kind of like travel the world and everything, when you look at Alabama and the environment that you grew up in, how does it compare to a lot of other places that you've been in shit? Because when you're young, you can't really tell the world shit about where you're from because it's just what you're used to.

But now that you've kind of got more of a perspective, like what was it really like? That shit different. That's the trenches. I can't lie. Like, this shit, peaches and cream. And I ain't saying, like, peaches and cream,

because I know shit gets crazy. Like, I ain't saying, like, it's sweet. And then, because Kelly liked that. But I'm talking about

as far as the community, like, even what the, even what the trenches are down here, it still look better. You get what I'm saying? Right. Man,

I came from, like, shit. Like, it ain't shit, duh. Yeah. There's not nothing to do that, but a few things.

Like, I mean, there's just, like, areas down south because I was just in Houston and Dallas doing like different vlogs I've seen you. On my life I've seen you.

Oh geez. But like the reason why it stands out to me is just that like the population is a lot less like per area. So it's like California, yeah, it's like you might have your super grimy ass areas with crazy gang shit or whatever. But it's also like a lot of people in a relatively small area whereas like down south there's so many areas that are damn near dead where it's just like nothing. And it's just like a different.

And that's exactly what I mean. You know exactly what I'm saying. Like, that's a good way to compare. Because, like, even where, like you said, even where down here where the bullshit shit is going on there, it's still a lot of people. Like, what a bullshit is down now is a lot of people and it's place where they're shit at. But I'm not from, like, folks think, we countries here.

Like, in Belmont, like, I'm from dirt roads and shit. Like, no, like, I'm from the city. Okay. Like, a city port. I got a city. We're from the city. But it's still places like my other partner from Houston. He was in Mobile.

Ryan with me one night. he was like man I see why niggas get killed like it ain't no lights like it's just a dark ass street like a nigga can do it right here like it ain't no fucking it ain't you know how some people got cameras on man it's a

it's streets where it ain't shit yeah like it's meant for you to get killed right here like we went to a trail ride when we were in Houston was basically kind of like a block party without the block like it's just a big ass field basically and when we showed up

we're with Maxo and Cartel Bow when we show up and they're like damn yeah somebody got killed here, like, right before we got here. I'm like, are you fucking serious? And they're telling me about it, and I'm like, just realizing, like, oh, like, whoever did it's getting away with it. Because we're in this giant fucking field,

like, unless they're crazy as hell. Like, I don't know what I'm saying. They could get away, or get caught up for it. And that shit be so it's so reachable. Like, yeah. Places like that, like, rolls like that. Like, nigga, we can turn right here. You feel me? Like, you don't got to go far to do nothing. But the opposite of that is New York

City, where you want to shoot somebody good fucking luck. It's on 18 cameras that just It's going to be in front of the whole world On God Like that's where it separate us from Bigger cities like Cali in New York Like it's easy to get away with shit

For sure I'd say that So being from Alabama Who was you like Musically looking at To know that you could do it yourself Um Dobie

Capp Rallo I ain't on cap like I seen my Man I was in school with Cal I was in like I've been knowing any people I was, like,

like, I know in Rallo. Yeah. So he's something that was like your age and you're seeing him coming up before you. That shit motivated me.

Mm. Like seeing him go up. Like I used to, I watched Kelp go up. Like, I watched that shit like, from, from nothing.

That's why I want to stop people be hanging. Like, that shit really made me like, damn, this nigga lives is here. He's just going up. Like,

who's just in school? You know? Like, I'm like, damn, this nigga was just right here. I know I can do it. That was the high school together?

Yeah. I know in 1940. I've been, like, been, I ain't gonna say well, but I've been bumping it to him somewhere, like just hooping,

like, you know what I'm saying? Like, just see the shit. That's a cool person. Way back. Him and his brother. For him. Like him,

him kind of like having, you know, him being like a role model or him somebody that's kind of like showing you the game is a good example too because he's like pure talent. A lot of people come up off a bunch of bullshit and goofy shit these days,

but he's like one of the most talented dudes in the game. Exactly. Definitely. Was there anybody like, older that you looked at from your area that made you feel like it was possible? Rallo. Rallo, yeah, yeah.

Rallo for sure. I've been in the barbershop and seen Rallow wait on his ride type shit. Really? Yeah. Shit like that. That's motivation. How did you first get in the studio?

Like me? Yeah, like how'd you first even put a song together? You remember? Yeah. My cousin used to cut hair at a barbershop. It was like 2015. I was just backed up. That's when I couldn't wrap, though.

Like, I don't know what them songs at type shit. Just rapping. I took you a wrong in here, though. Yeah, hell, yeah. Like, none of that came out, went no one, nothing. Like, that's when I first got in the studio. But when I took it serious with, like, 2019, like, I started getting in that booth, like, 2019. And I started dropping, like, 2020.

So what's the game plan, though? Because, you know, being from a small town, ain't really too many outlets or media outlets to get you. Man, I already had clout in the city. So, yeah. So instantly, when you were driving, you're going to be. dropping music, everybody just gravitating towards it. I ain't gonna say like I was dead famous, but like, hell yeah.

In school and shit, like, nigga being getting likes and, you know what I'm saying? Like, that matter. Like, niggas knowing you, like, when I saw, when I dropped, niggas I already knew me. It went hard for it to spread. You know what I'm saying? Like, I already kind of had like a little popular, you know what I'm saying? I wouldn't say I was just popular as hell with, like, at school.

Nick wasn't just lame, like, damn to the whole school, knew it a little, nigga. Yeah. I mean, it's like two ways where it's either you blow up and like your whole, like, you're the popular kid in school or, like, school's fucking with you and then the lame key but then you have you're the weird kid who like puts their shit online and the other weird kids online relate to it and then your neighborhood got to kind of catch up exactly yeah I was the other way I've seen both

versions but over the years for sure so what's all you put out that started uh gain you attention outside Alabama it was like all right this shit gone um I said no PIN my first video I don't know that my friend I don't think it was my first video but it was one of my first video no PIN for show but when I first drop, I was getting like 20K. Oh, instant. Audio. Yeah.

No video. I was real, like two weeks, 20K. And that's kind of, that's super good system. That's a lot. Nobody ain't doing that. Thousand, thousand subscribers. Like, this fresh, me and, me and my partner, Richie So I said, we was rapping.

Like, we making a song. We're going to the studio every night. Like, we locking in putting this shit together. Sharing his platform on me, like, his fan fuck with me, my fan fucking with him. Kept just kept dropping. And I'm pushing up to the clothes, opening up.

No cap. For artists and shit. Like, anybody come to the city? I'm pushing up, opening up. So that was a big part of your strategy? Yeah, because then nobody know my shit. Yeah. I don't God, I remember one show we went to,

then nobody know my shit, but we were deep before singing that shit, like rapping that shit, word for word. And that's how, like, you know, rappers impressed all the rapists, networking and shit. Like, brad, if you got 10, 15, niggas rapping the same thing?

Like, did you're like a choir, bro. Somebody's going to pay attention. Yeah. Yeah, niggas in that hole, like, you feel him? Like, paying attention now, like, you know what rappers came through Alabama early on that you, you know, probably opened up for it during that time? I know for sure I opened up for Cinco, but he's from Alabama. Yeah.

It was somebody else, bro. I forgot. It was an artist, though. But I don't remember the nigga night. But that was more so the strategy, like, I'm just keep hitting the club, Mark. In the club. Even when the artists don't come. Yeah.

I might perform. on the Tuesdays and shit just in that bitch bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? I did that. Yeah, because when I was just, again, I was just in Texas, it's like, we're at a show. It's a big X show. And then there's like other artists that are performing before him.

And I'm like kind of thinking like, oh, okay, this is like a paid opener type situation. Because like in L.A., like I just don't really go out enough to like really see it. But you're really seeing dudes getting sections. They got all their jewelry. They got girls with him. And it's like they're aspiring rappers. And you're kind of like watching it. And like, I always hear about it.

but I don't really like see it in front of my face that often, but that definitely like in these markets, especially like, like, I feel like there's the whole like chitlin circuit where basically like there's just tons of money to be made just traveling down south. Like did you have like a lot of artists kind of coming through your area to perform at a, uh,

uh, like before you popped off like, could you kind of consistently see artists or not really? Nah. That wasn't really like that. Okay. I mean, it was,

but before I start like, they were, it was artists getting booked, but like, Like I said, it ain't take me long. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, no bullshit. Like, I probably did, like, five shows for four-star anore-in-me.

And three of them probably wasn't nobody in that bitch. You get what I'm saying? Right. No cap. Like, real shit. Like, probably only two of them had a full club. Definitely. So, um, what kind of kid were you in high school before the rabbit shit took off?

Like, were you somebody who was, like, really outside getting into trouble and shit? Or were you kind of focused? He was playing sports, wasn't it? I played baseball. I wanted to play baseball. I wanted to play football. football, but coach ain't fool with me, like, as a football player. Like, he fucked with me as a person.

But I don't feel like he wanted me, like, around his team. Like, there's no cap. Like, on Jesus Christ, Coach McCackage, like, I don't know. We just ain't really get along on the football side. But I play baseball for sure. What did you explain? What position? First, third, shit like that.

I was five fucking baseball. But, like, as far as, like, a student, like, I don't know. I wasn't, I was definitely getting into the dumb shit, but I wasn't just one of them niggas who's fortunate in either, though. Like, just drive forward. forcing it just I don't know how to explain it like a nigger get into some shit but it won't be on no force shit like we probably go to a part of some getting the fight in a shootout shit like shit like in school I used to go to school try to do my work bullshit shit and clad clown

joking like I was that kind of like I was you feel was it like I feel like I feel like baseball is kind of like a weird sport and rap because it's like it is such a gigantic sport but then in hip hop people don't really talk about baseball like that they talk about basketball and maybe football. But I was, me and my, me and my cousin came up out baseball, like, his uncle,

shit, my granddaddy, like they always had us on the baseball trip, like, and I loved y'all, I fell in love with the shit. And I played football and basketball too,

but that was my favorite sport. No lie, like, I always love baseball. I don't know why. Did the baseball dreams kind of died with the music or was it before that?

Yeah, he was waiting for that. Oh, okay. I knew I wasn't going to go no down when baseball. Just the same effect of school I went to that bitch in the middle of the hood. And the people,

when we do play good people, we can't blow it out. You know what I'm saying? I knew that shit went working, but hey, I was out of class. Damn, them winning through Friday early. Baseball, we had a game every day. That was the finesse. I had the whole, I told all my niggas, bro, I need to play baseball. We're going to get out of class dumb early.

I had the baseball team to the gym. 12 o'clock. We just got to school. Also, like, I would personally probably rather play baseball just because of the fact that like I don't really feel like I could be running up and down a court for that long. Baseball is kind of more my status. I'm just chilling until the ball comes your way and then you got to figure out what to do. Exactly.

But the new project is, you have a project that's like baseball themed. Like you've kind of worked that into everything. Yeah. A dinger or a dinker? Dingers. Dingers. Yeah. What is that exactly?

When you hit it, right? Yeah. A good hit. Preferably at home run. Right, right. Why did you decide to like make that the theme of the project? Um, well, when I be coming on my part of that name, it'd be on some spur of the mom and shit. Like, whatever comes to my head, I don't be trying to overthink shit, you know what I'm saying?

I really named the dingers and it was just going to be an album cover of me in a big-ass crowd when I, like a match pit when I had a show. I'm like, man, I'm just make it about baseball because even though that's not what it's about, but I love a sport. So I merged them, but it's really based off like hits. Just a bunch of hits. No, definitely. So, okay, so everything started, like, the music kind of takes off relatively quickly. Do you start just getting reached out to by all the labels and everything right away? Or, like, how did that kind of unfold?

Mm-hmm. Probably, it took me like probably five months. Mm. No bullshit. By five months, they started hearing me up, rappers, labels, all the kind of shit. How did you all decide who you wanted to sign with? I had talked to a couple of people. And then, like, the people who I showed, they were just,

cool as hell they went on no you know what I'm feeling like we just came into agreement on all of the real shit was run down so definitely what was the craziest artist that reached out to you in terms of you just being a little bit shocked that they were tapping in I say offset but that's when I first

started rapping though so it was kind of crazy you feel but was he trying to sign you or he was just showing of oh okay he was trying to sign me where he would get hit to you at where we're running, where you're running an offset? I ain't running through. Yeah, he's DM.

But he showed you where he was paying attention to you from? No, he didn't. Just caught on. All set, be paying attention, though. I was like, I had like 30,000 follows on Instagram. Were you just sprung like, damn, I want to sign to him right away or were you already, like, I don't know. Like, I got away my absence. I don't lie, I went, I went sprung, but I was for show, like, I was happy.

Like, damn, this opposite. You know what I came up listening and I was it, bumping this shit on the way to school. So that shit definitely was like Damn this shit hard to fuck But now I went anxious to sign to him Because I already had people reaching out Throwing crazy ass deals You know what I'm saying?

Like he said some shit Like he said some shit I was thinking about it But you know She just Other shit happened It wasn't no GD thing You know down south

We got GD vice stores I don't blame All right for sure All set be tapped in with all the GDs It seemed like It might be I don't know I don't buy in though So I don't feel like it was no

I ain't related shit I was just all the music straight up What y'all relationship Now? Y'all talk or? No, I'll talk to him You got industry friends

How you feel about like industry friends And shit like that? Fuck no Not really Why do you think that is Not at all Why do you think that is Like you just haven't really

You don't put a lot of effort into it Yeah, no That's probably why Right I ain't doing no dick around I ain't gonna I'm like DM a nigga Yo, this work does it

I ain't fin of it overdo it. That's it. I don't just, I don't extend my hand like this. I feel like it was dream when you'll come, you know? That's a weird part about like being in the music business

is that anybody who knows what's going on will tell you that it's all about relationships. It's all about having connections to people and these people will look out for you, etc. And like, we can all think of people that are high up on the rolling loud flyer every year. And it's like,

they ain't really hot like that, but they got a good relationship or they make people like them, et cetera. Meanwhile, like, if you're the kind of person that really just kind of stays to yourself or is more like only interacts with people that you really have a real relationship with, I mean, that shit does kind of hurt you in the long run, which is, it's a weird balance. Like, do you just want to be yourself or do you want to really get serious about playing the game? I ain't a lot.

See, that's what separates me from this shit because I don't really care for it like that to do all that. You know, like something like I, like if you want to be a superstar, do that. But I don't care for it. there's all my kids I don't like if somebody come to me right now and offer me a bunch of money to stop rapping and disappear and delete all my social media I do it I don't really give a fuck by being

like you see like come on bro you feel I don't get no for just being honest like so that's that's what I feel like that's what separate me from different people like I don't I'm not going take their extra still push up on nobody pay 50,000 60,000 no

I'm not doing it. I'm just not I'm sorry I'm not fend to push up on nobody and get them my hard earn money so we can pump fake it with each other and you can do them to video act like you fuck with me I keep y'all hard and it's over with Yeah because I see that all the time

where somebody Fook no pays an artist Whatever 50K Not you're mad at them Because y'all didn't become best friend And you literally paid that artist 100 grand to pretend that he was friends with you For afternoon to shoot this music video

To trick the fans into thinking that you're on this rapper's level Because the fans aren't really with it enough To understand how this works But talk to them. Let's be real. I've seen a lot of people who did that exact move. And then they get mad at them. Yeah.

But some people get mad at them. Yeah. Like I get mad. Like they're down, lock in with them a double back. That's not what his ears, though. Like in today's where it's not like that. Like, y'all, coworkers, bro, like this shit. You feel?

You ever go to a show and you see like there's two artists on the bill and like the headliner got songs with like a couple of different artists that are on the bill? And you would think that they would be. and that they would be hanging out or whatever, and you see them backstage, and you realize, like, these motherfuckers don't even know each other. I mean, hey, it is what it is.

It's just the beating. It's just the business. We're working. No. Do your management or your label get mad that you want to play that little play games? Because, you know, you kind of hinder you if you don't want to play the little politics.

Right a half times, bro. Cuevo didn't hit me. Like, hey, push up on me real quick. I was down. I ain't, I was dusty. Like, I wouldn't say douched. I had on, like, a Nike jumpsuit. I ain't had my jure, no hair cut.

I'm just that type of nigga, bro. I move off, like, genuine. Now I'm going to say genuine course. Quavo won genuine nigga. Like, he'd hit me. Like, you feel me? He didn't play in my music around people before. Like, hit me up, told me to push up.

But I just go out like, is it meant? You know what I'm saying? I was down bad. Like, just in the studio. Hey, Quavo Ted, put up. They're like, man, bro, this one in the lifetime. I said, bro, this one in the lifetime for y'all. Like, you know what I'm saying?

This shit, if it's meant, it'll happen. Like, if this is once in a lifetime, then how much do I really? want it. Like, if it's really an opportunity, then it should be an opportunity the next day or next week or whatever, too, right? That's how I look at shit. That's just how I am, bro. Like, and my manager should be on my head by shit. I'm about to say the manager side be pissed off. Yeah, he'd be like, bro, you got, this, like, this game

you got to play, man. Like, I know you. Like, my manager's even told me one time, like, bro, I know you're like kissing there. Bro, that's why I'm just going to do it for you. Like, because I know, I just see you. I ain't friendly. You know, but I wouldn't say I ain't friendly, bro. I just go out with genuine love like I don't force shit bro right I'm not gonna pay for a friendship definitely um so what about like something like going on that tour with no cap when I first met you like was that the first major tour that you went on for like a long period of

time and did that change how you viewed the industry and everything that was the first major tour it didn't change how I viewed the industry because I've been new cap Like it went That's what I'm saying Like it was genuine Like we do a show We might go to the studio Chill

Get on the tour bus Bunch of bitches Like it was It was genuine You get what I'm saying Like it wasn't So I went That ain't had shit to do

With the industry Definitely It changed the way I looked at fans And shit like that Bigger platform Just being on the bigger stage Right

And I appreciate it But not the industry And different like Demographics You're like in different states And the audience Looks completely different or they act different.

It's like people really, I see people crying for bro, like really love bro. Right. You know what I'm saying? So that made me look at, I'd say my career different, but not the industry or nothing like that. For sure.

So how dangerous is it actually performing in Alabama? Because I saw that you got shot at a show one time. Mm-hmm. What actually went down with that situation? I feel like it's dangerous here or well. Just being honest. And I was just sleeping for real, for real. Really?

Yeah. But I ain't like That was one of my first shows I was just telling you about Like that was one of my first shows Oh so it was real early on Yeah a nigga ain't had no gun on them Just did a show

And then it was real on some Niggas just jumped out shooting That everybody touched shit Like the whole crowd You said the nigga wasn't even looking When you're blown I don't know what the fuck he would do I wasn't looking

I tried to get my head down But damn one of your first shows That got to be tough though Yeah yeah that was tough Where you get hit at In my back I ain't even know I was shot.

But that's got to be a crazy thing, too, about going on tour is that when you're at home, you can move the right way that you want to move or whatever. But then as soon as you're like in L.A. and you drove there on a tour bus and shit like that. Now, I mean, you could have security and shit like that, but it's like completely different world in terms of how you're moving around or protecting yourself, especially with having jewelry and everything. It's great, though. Erewell, like, I got people air well.

Like, here like, niggas, I got somebody I tap in with. check in, whatever you want to call. I got somebody. When I get the Cali, when I first came down here, my jeweler told me, like, hey, bro, I see you in Cali.

Don't think the pawn. Don't let the pawn tree fool you. Don't get you a gun. Get what? I went and got me a gun from my plug. I pushed up on my plug, gave me a gun. So we beat militant everywhere.

Yeah, and that show wasn't, that was in Alabama, though, when you got. Yeah, it's worse. I feel like it's more dangerous at home. Yeah. All the shows I had at home in the business shoot up.

Because, you know, even the famous Boosy quote, he'd be saying, you know, there's more problems where you're at. Yeah, yeah. Because you got the song Webby Flo. Mm-hmm. And so how did that song even come about? I fuck with Weber. Tough.

Like, that's one of my niggas. I grew up listening to with Unkin shit. Yeah, being from down south, Webby and Boosy, like, the staples down, you know what I'm saying? You feel, me? Like, that shit. Nigger, I had a Webby or I had a Boosy. Like, the hell could. Like, nigga, that was the way.

You feel? That's what I grew up on. Weep and Boisie and Boisie. No, 100%. Did you ever get the Meet Webby-O-Busie? Yeah, I'm mid-Webby. What was talking about?

Who's supposed to be in the video? Damn, I would have been hard. Yeah. You just didn't work out? I really don't even want to speak on because it should have blow you. Wait, well, why? It'll blow you. It sounds crazy.

Yeah, I ain't going to do it. It was on his behalf, your behalf. Because he said you. All right, for so. Yeah. Damn, but so was he appreciative of the fact that you kind of like help keep his name ringing and everything. I know he's like a local legend down there

and everything, but it felt like to a lot of people that might have kind of reminded people about Webby. I don't know. Because like when I met him, I shook his hand and shit. And then when I looked up, I ain't see him no more. Oh, really? So you felt like he was kind of fake? No, him. I wouldn't say fake. I ain't going to say fake because he

dabbed me up. I told him why. He was in Alabama. We were deep, y'all. We were deep as hell. Yeah, y'all niggins get him. y'all niggas out there with those switches or whatever to fuck. But we didn't come on that, though. We was on something. Like, that's big, like, I ain't on like,

that's big brother. Like, I fuck away with it. But you still know, sometimes you go down south, like even Boosie got shot in Texas. Yeah, I feel like he was just on it. Like, I don't feel like he was scared or nothing, but he was just like, he ain't fuck with the vibe. He wasn't feeling the vibe of the video.

He had to get up out of there. But yeah, it would seem like, y'all got some Alabama drill shit going on to Alabama, man. I'm seeing, I'm like, damn, I ain't know what was going on. I've been seeing, uh, you and some nigga named De Niro going back and forth. The nigga made a diss song. Now, you had dropped the song called I'm him,

and I guess he flipped it. And then that's when you dropped the, what's it called, free? No, fat. Facts. Yeah, so what, you know? I dropped Facts before he dropped the, oh, so it's the opposite way around.

So how you feel about, you know, niggas dissing the songs and responding and shit? I mean, everybody, to each his own, like, it don't make me feel no way. Like, you just be blowing me for real for it because I don't know him. Yeah, but I've seen DMs where it seemed like, y'all was about to work

and do some music together at one point. he was hitting you up. Yeah, he would definitely him me up. Also, yeah, I never really got to lock in before. Right, shit. Because my producer, Laura, she was telling me, she's like, hey, do you want to interview Big Yevo tomorrow?

I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's do it. And then I get on YouTube, and I had no idea. And I started, like, kind of doing my research. And I'm like, oh, all right, he's wrapped up in some shit. And it's kind of, like, interesting because I feel like you're somebody who, you got a ton of talent and you could make noise without having to do all the beefing and shit. But that shit just kind of,

If I have the dissing a nigga to get a buzz, I don't need it. Screw up. But it's... To each of it's on. Like, I don't know about none of that shit they'd be talking about. I'm from O'bill. Yeah. Straight up, like, just telling you right now, clean my face.

Maybe have me in a bunch of shit. I ain't got nothing to do with, I don't know. Because that'd be Burma-am shit? I ain't from now. But how you get tired? You must have just affiliation. No, I moved out when I was younger, for sure. But I don't know what they'd be talking about.

Like... Because they were saying that you were like, they was like, oh, this nigga's trying to, like, back out of, like, fucking with some of the homies or some shit because you made the post like nigga I'm not in that shit but it's like all your homies I guess is in there tight shit

but it makes sense you being from Mobile you're like nigga I ain't I don't be trying I just love life like I ain't trying to go to jail yeah I'm saying

I ain't trying to go you know so you can't so you can't like all that police that internet shit yeah I don't know

but sometimes you get in it because I seen you on live with a nigga Vito or some shit y'all y'all going back and for you from Mobile or Birmingham you're from Birmingham all right so you from

man, what the fuck? I see y'all arguing about some shit. It just be, you know, a nigga might fall under the trap sometime, but hey, I'm on a point now where I'm just, I ain't doing that no more

because that's how I get in shit when I respond. So, yeah. I mean, I feel like there's been like a chilling effect because of shit like the YSL RICO, the dirt RICO, shit that never really happened,

but the little baby shit. Like, I think that kind of scared a lot of people and to realize, and like, oh, if we do have shit going on in the streets, We probably should not be putting this shit in the music. Now, obviously, you still got plenty of drill artists that do it and shit,

but it feels like to a lot of people, they kind of smartened up because of that. I've never been a drill artist, though. I ain't never said, nothing by no nigger, never dropped no name and no song. It never will. You can't pull up a song, even with that. What you're talking about?

I ain't never, I don't know. He ain't really saying no name specifically. I don't know him. Yeah. So if something happened to him, I don't know him. Yeah, now you ain't ever say no names. It's just the aura behind it. It just, you know, people, the fans come with it.

Yeah, the fans. I'm like, I'm the largest from now. That's one thing you can't say. You kept telling me, like, man, go inside your house. Look at the hill sillings. You just basically tell me. Like, I'm on some old shit, bro. I ain't with it.

I ain't with that scree shit. I'm trying to get a hundred me. So you feel like a target, though, with you being like, you know what I'm the largest from now. Yeah. It's like, you're else they're going to go with. You're just a cloud opportunity waiting to happen for a lot of people. Who else they're going to go at?

Yeah. And even if they don't got a real beef with you, it's like, well, shit, we we better find out of it. to make one. Who wish they're going to go with? But it ain't been never a situation where you try to help the niggas, and then I guess they wasn't receptive of the help, or you ain't never really looked their way.

So, I mean, I don't know him, but, yeah, of course, like, just life, people around me for sure. Hell, yeah. That's life. Because I asked, bro, I seen it because I know y'all, I guess Gigi or whatever. I thought the Gigi shame was the same thing, but that ain't the same. Is what?

I know y'all be claiming Gigi or some shit, but he got a shame called Gigi, but he said they ain't the same thing. Yeah, that's a ass him. That's Glitch Guard. All right, so put me down. What that mean? His boys guerrilla ground, right? And that's with show G.

Yeah. That's my regular label, but I switched it to Clover Boys. All right. That makes sense. Tell us who your homie is. Oh, so? This is called on. He's from Megan Georgia.

What's the word, man? How long you guys been tapped in? About what? Four five, yeah. Five year. For sure. You met him doing the feature. Oh, okay.

Like that. And we're locked in and saying then. Okay, I just turned into a real relationship from there. Shit, crazy. Damn. See,

hey, that's the value of doing a feature is that you might just make a friend that actually works in the long run. Yeah. I feel like that's what a lot of rappers are kind of counting on when they do the feature. That's why you were saying that they get kind of salty when it doesn't turn into anything. Fex. Yeah.

I was just with the Gigis in, uh, in Toronto, which is go get them gang. Go get them gang. It's a little aggressive, right? Damn. G.

G. Gigi. Shout out to them boy. Yeah, they'd be awesome. Crazy shit. Yeah, yeah. But, so did you ever, did you ever make contact with YBN Namir at any point?

Or was he out of there before you started rapping? What did you mean out of there? Well, he's from Alabama, too, right? Oh, yeah, he been gone. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he did. So he blew up quick. Like, he was one of the nigg that went overnight with it.

Yeah. Like, you know, it don't happen like that no more. Right. Like, that was the first. SoundCloud there. Yeah. Just go. Like,

and that shit was motivation, too, for real, for real. But I didn't know he was from Birmingham. Straight up. But you were young, so that motivated you at all? Nah, because I went rapping. Okay. It was just hard. I was like, when I found out he was in Birmingham, I'm like, damn.

That was kind of motivation, but not for it, like, rapping. So I guess in Birmingham, they didn't really look at him as a Birmingham or Alabama, nigga? Because, like, I guess when he, his motion kind of went so fast and he moved to California, that was kind of giving him to California. How many people do you? Yeah. You know how people do you. You said you was young, nigga.

You were just looking at him from being for Cali, though. You weren't really just claiming. Y'all wasn't really claiming them like that, right? I mean, I want to say claiming shit. I don't know. Like, I really don't know. Let me think. What year there was?

That nigga, 2017? It was like right in the middle of all that soundcloth shit. That nigga had the hottest shit. People forget that it was like, T-K went crazy, but T-K got locked up by the time we all heard of them. and then all of a sudden it's like, oh, you got this new kid, he got like a banging-ass song

and he kind of, similar to take care, like style-wise, image-wise or whatever. So I feel like that's kind of like what blew him up at that moment. I ain't allowed. They probably won't claiming them.

Because I don't really remember, like, I just remember him going up and people being blowed that he was from Birmingham. So you, like, bro,

that's just a crazy city. Like, it's like I love my city, but it's like, it's a little hate thing, bro. It's love that, but it's hate that.

to, you know. So, with anybody that go up, they're going to hounder you. If they ain't a part of, that's anywhere, bro. Like, everybody don't fuck with you from where you from do it.

I don't even know anyone from where I'm from anymore because I've been gone for like 20 years. You know what I hate that. They hate anybody that makes something out of their self, and you are nothing or nobody,

you got hating bones, your body brother, you ain't going to like it. Definitely. But so, all right, people give Yben, Nimer a hard time because he was a Giti

in high school, I guess, and then he moves out, moves to Long Beach, ends up basically joining a Crip set out here. And a lot of people give him a hard time about that. But from my perspective, it's kind of like, shit, if you've been out here banging with the same dudes for all these years. They don't do that, no more, man.

They don't do that, no more, man. What, there's a combo deal? I thought. So he can help you with, he can align you with the guy and shit. I don't really know. Like, I don't know. So that's that. It used to be eight by a little.

Yeah, they used to do that. Like, Cripping GD. Like, but you were saying he switched. He switched it up completely. And people were giving them a hard time on this live one time about that switch. And he said, put-ons happen. Put-offs happen. And like a lot of people were just kind of taken aback by that because that was just like,

I don't know, I guess it's kind of weird as a rapper to acknowledge that you got put off of one gang so you could get put on another one. But at the same time, accent, it was like, oh, so how you flip from GD to BD? I mean, all the grip. Oh, wow. I've seen it. It happened. Yeah. What did you mean? It happened. Yeah. I've seen it. But, okay, say you moved out here and you were just

hanging out with all crips for five, six years. Is that kosher to be like, all right, I'm just going to kind of acknowledge that this is who I'm with now? On a completely different side of the country. For me, yeah. But I ain't, I ain't banging right now, so I can fuck who I want to fuck with it.

So that's what I make it different. Like, what I say is my input on that. I don't, I don't, I don't get down in that, like just switching games. But who am I? Yeah. He is on man. That what he wanted to do, that's on him. But, hey, when I'm from, you can't do that shit.

You get your ass cute. You come from, like, a hood at bang, though, or something? Hell yeah. You just chose not to, you know. Mm-hmm. Stayed out of that. Because it's been hectic, like where I was from. Like, a nigga been bumping down.

Hey, where you from, Sean? Like, you feel, what you kind? What you, man, I ain't nothing like, I ain't without that. How you was able to get up out of, like, you know, having a... I'm with, I'm with familiar faces, like, I'm with originals, like, from the hood. Like, I got my partner right here who on that. I got, you know what I was younger. Like, I got a nigga who older me on that with a Glock on them.

Like, a nigga went just dry. I always moving militant. Like, even when I were walking, like, no, no lie. Like, somebody had a gun. If I didn't, and I had one early, too. So, you know what I'm saying? like even when I was young and didn't have a gun somebody around had a gun

knew their knowledge like that's just how our way moved that's what's what I thought you feel like people like saw that you had this musical talent and motivation from early on so they kind of if anything and then maybe try to steer you away from bad shit see it again like in terms of people locally

like did they identify that you had talent early on and maybe we kind of want to keep you away from the streets if anything because they realize how much potential you have no No, I never trying to do it. They got mad when I got, like, I used to be on the block every day when I first blew up. Like, nigga, with the views and all that,

I was still in the hood every day. And then when I had churns, like, I couldn't be on the block no more. Like, I realized, like, man, I got kids. Like, fuck this block. Like, I'm going to go get some money and go home to my kids. Like, some of my nigger was stuck, though. You know what I'm saying? Like, they didn't get it.

Even when they had churn, they still on the block. What up? So people kind of, I feel like people don't feel the same. They don't look at me the same because I was just right here. I was just reachable. I was just in their face every day. Right. And now I'm gone.

Like you said, I ain't been there in a minute. So shit probably trying. Most of probably chained. Who gives a fuck? I better my life. How many kids you got now? Three. Three.

And one baby mama or a couple? Two. Okay. And how old were you when you had your first kid? 20. Okay. When? Did that totally change your mind state in terms of what you were doing with your time?

Hell, yeah. I stopped playing. Soon as soon. you came. I ain't played no more. I went to send no well for too long. Like, I looked at everything. I ain't different.

Like, I got to get home to bro. Like, I got to get home to my baby. Like, that was my goal every night. Like, no matter what I was doing, trapping, rapping, anything, I had to get home to bro. No, yeah, 100%. Everything just becomes a totally different calculation.

Yeah, different perspective. Like, just like he was just asking me about all that shit. I don't care about that. Yeah. People making songs. He ain't the only nigga diss me. I wish him the best. Straight up.

I'm just at that point in life. Like, I'm so up here, like, with peace. Yeah. Real talk. I just talked to the mayor the other day. Like, I'm on the phone with the mayor. Yeah. Niggas can't do that.

You know what I'm saying? But you'd be feeling away when nigs be bringing your baby mom and shit into it, though? No, I don't. Oh, I just. What else can you say by me? Yeah. Nothing. You got to talk about another human being to get at me.

It ain't, I ain't no dirt on my name, brother. So he just charged to the game. Like, you know what I'm going to come with it? I ain't growing with my baby mom. I ain't growing with my baby mom. No, one funny thing you did say was like, Nick, I only had chlamydia. Like, I guess I was, I'm gonna lie.

But he goes a midsy shit. Hey, you're saying. And that nigga said it on the live. Because I guess you was talking to the veto, because I, you know, I do my homework. I'm watching the interviews. And I don't know what something. I guess you kept,

the nigga kept trying to bring your baby mama into the shit. How you feel when niggis is doing all that shit? Because, you know, a small time. Everybody know everybody. it gets to me but at the time like I said now it got to me then I don't really give a fuck Yeah you kind of just

You know I'm clear ahead I realize that brother like That time I took off That's when I locked down myself And realize this was gonna come with this And if I want to do this I'm gonna go through this

And I'm gonna have to do this so I mean having a baby mama That's outside or whatever Is definitely like You don't realize how much of a risk it is Or whatever until it's kind of in your face because, like, I could think of, like, there's a couple of different cheap, keep baby mamas

that are running around out here, just having some cloud off of being Chief Keeves baby mama, and they're just total sewer dwellers. Like, just the, no shots, no shots. I fuck with them. But, I mean, I'm just saying, like, it's like the last chick that you would want running around, like, basically, like, claiming you.

And even though he probably ain't had nothing to do with him in a long time, it's still, like, they're able to just be out here kind of. That's like the ultimate clout chase for a chick, you know? But, yeah, you've got to be careful with the baby mamas these days. Or what about the memes that people still are pumping out about dirt because his first baby mama from back in the day was, see what I'm saying? You know, it's just, it's coming with it, brother. And they're undefeated, man.

So you said, you switch the label up. You got Clover gang as a label. Clover boys. I never had gang in my clothes. And neither one of my labels. So who, what artist you pushed? Never been a gang. What's the main artist on Clover Boys right now?

I'm pushing a lot of artists. let's go vote for one all right jug fat boy wholesale luat um jay shouted

riko p s yro rico ps ys i promo it's a lot of niggas that ain't even clover who i'm pushing so they ain't about that it's a lot of people niggins to get in tune to the richard's ho icey the list goes on

do you feel like Alabama slept on generally speaking for sure this is a big opportunity you think to like be able to kind of spread a lot of these artists and sort of create a movement coming out of there? Yeah, definitely. What do you think are going to change the narrative, though,

to get more people talking about Alabama, you know, getting y'all in more light? Niggas just got to come together, and that's what niggas don't want to do. That's what I'm saying. You think it's even possible? It's possible. It's got to be the niggas who lead

that's on one accord and not have no loose screws around. So, yeah, it's still OGs out there, because, you know, Chicago and other cities and shit. They ain't really know. It's like renegades. So like, he's renegade in Birmingham. Word.

But y'all got a little structure where, like, some people can make shit happen, probably get to get together, though. Yeah, yeah. For sure. That'd be good for the city, you know, see everybody come together and make some music and shit. I know. But you're laughing like, it ain't happening. I wish it, I hope it do.

Right. I ain't saying that ain't happening. It's just funny. But you're with it, though. You'll be, you'll do the music with everybody. Not everybody, but yeah. But some people. Yeah, I mean, you're kind of up there.

So you got to, like, work with people. or on your level. I don't stress people. Yeah. And there's that too. You give them a shot. The back door always open in this shit. Have you seen that throughout your life where it's like the back door type shit just seems

like it's become way more common? I feel like that's a result of like a situation where people ain't really have shit. So they got to come up with like more devious evil ways to get something out of somebody. And that's basically like winning over their trust long term as opposed to just, you know, walking down on a random person. It's definitely like that now It's more like that now I don't know why

How important is it for you To bring your people with you Because I see you got all your people out in the lobby It's not important at all You don't got to Because at the end of the day I ain't like You can be real as fuck

You ain't gonna get shit for being real It's just something I do Because that's just what God put on my heart But it's not important at all You ain't got to do shit for us So spell of ain't about doing that for you But if somebody's doing a few return the favor, but

it's not at point at all. At the end of the day, even when you can stop, the day you stop doing something or bringing somebody with you, they'll show you that you color, too. So, you know, that shit ain't important.

What's important is you just taking care with your being, handling your being? What's your relationship with Big X? He cool. You guys just, I feel like a work. Like, he's a good-ass dude,

like straight up. Like, and I ain't, I never spoke down about him because I met him actually been around. him. So he's a good dude. Like, I ain't got nothing against him. I just ain't fuck with how he took my shit.

What did he take exactly? The largest. Oh, okay. He ain't the only one. So ain't like just at him and none. It's just it's some shit I had to cope with myself. So you were saying I'm the largest as like a sort of catchphrase at a certain point and then he started running with that too?

Okay. Interesting. Why I didn't even know. But he's a good dude, though. I ain't got nothing against him. I I'm not going to get nothing against him. I fought with him as a person. I just ain't like that. I'm just a nigga who stand on principles and more I wouldn't take that from him You know what I'm saying Did you ever have words like

What's up? No, I had said something about it on my store And he replied to it What was his reply? He probably didn't think he took it No, he definitely knew he took it What do you say? He said you just started something

That's all All right so he kind of like A knowledge He acknowledged you on it though Yeah, but it wasn't it was pride It wasn't public So shit like that made me look at Shit a certain way

But I don't give a fuck But also, like, if we're talking about the largest, it sounds like there can only be one largest. So it's kind of like a weird claim to fame to be sharing with someone. So I could understand how you would take it away. For sure. Interesting. People I ever be thinking you're from Texas? Yeah.

Yeah. Because when I'm listening to your top songs on album music this morning and I'm like, it's got Mexican O.T. He's got big X in there. And I had to like check myself for a second. Like, wait, he's not from Texas, right? I have double check. But, I mean, is that like a scene that has been kind of. important in terms of your come up and everything?

They were like one of the first seat that I hit. Dallas. I did a lot of work in Dallas. I got a lot of loving Dallas. And I didn't just Dallas, Texas, period. Like, how do people think I'm from Texas, but I'm from Belmontville? Definitely. Do you guys claim Gucci Main fully?

Like, does he belong in the Atlanta Hall of Fame or the Alabama Hall of Fame? I feel like Gucci can say he's from Atlanta. Yeah. He just, he's from all. He was born. I don't know. I don't really know the history, but. I know for show, like, he used to be in Belsman and shit.

But I don't know. He definitely can say he from Atlanta because that we did his footwork. Yeah, that's where he, like, really made a mark for himself. But that's kind of the question is, like, if you're, if you live in one place until you're 18, and then you take off and, like, make it somewhere else, it's kind of like, you know, so it's really something like him. We're like 20 years plus of, like, being, like, kind of thought of in that world. I don't know.

I feel like he can, like, I feel like Atlanta, And Alabama claim, man. Definitely. What's the hardest part about being a rapper nowadays? What's the hardest part to you? The question is shit, you ask a nigga? Nah, but for real, I'm just like, bro. Like, just not being at being normal, shit, everything front line.

Like, you know my business type of shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, shit like that. That's it. It would make you be mindful of what you put out there? Because, like, even the questions I asked, I want to know if y'all niggas wasn't putting it out that. Exactly.

Exactly. That's why I said that. I ain't mad at that. number. I ain't mad at you or nothing. I'm just saying. It's definitely a learning thing. Because that's why I say I'm not on that anymore. I feel under the trap. I gave them what they wanted. You know what I'm saying?

Just like you said, you wouldn't even know. I said that. Yeah. So I'm saying. So I'm just different. You just learn. You still plan on being an actor? Hell yeah. I want to get in that shit. How serious you? Like, I'm serious, bro. I was just saying, like, I want to do everything. Like, they're rapping shit cool.

Like, they want to do different shit. Like, you down to go try out. I'm down. Classes and all that. All that. What if they told you that you need to lose weight? I'm going to lose weight. Anyway.

You're working on it anyway. Anyway. Why exactly? Do you feel like from a health perspective or you just think of my show? But I was like, damn, I got this for all just being big Avo. I'm going to just reincarnate myself. Right. I ain't going to lay on no table.

None of it. It's going to take me longer. You know what I'm saying? I don't know about that. I'm going to stay out of that. I ain't finish short cooking. I'm going to go to the gym. You know what I'm saying?

Put that work in. Man. Shady. I mean, but does it seem important because of the health aspect of it? Because, I mean, like, I can't help but think I just did an interview with Chris Gotti and his brother, Irv Gotti. He passed away like six months ago. And he really was kind of mostly because he had bad eating habits. Like, even though he had a personal chef and a personal trainer, and he was still fucking around.

Like, I guess, like, even when he passed. past is because he just went out to eat with a bunch of people. They ate a shitload of Chinese food. And then it gave him like a diabetic, like a spike or whatever. And they kind of, he just went into like a coma and didn't come out of it afterwards. See? Yeah. That's why.

Because when you're young, you can eat what the fucking want. It probably don't matter. But as you get older, it just becomes more and more of a hazard. Exactly. That's why I'm getting on it now. Because when I go to the gym, I see a lot of old people trying to get it now. It's too late. You know what I'm trying to.

Yeah. It's too late. That's why I'm trying to go on. I want to be able to have fun. my kill and I turn 40 still be loose moving around and trying to be so getting up I heard no trying to go on get on that now I'm you know what I'm saying definitely um what's it like I mean I don't know how much I should believe when I'm watching these YouTube videos but if I were to believe them it basically says that you've lost a lot of people and that some of these situations are kind of the result of your rap fame that like different situations

conflicts beefs kind of arise from just your success do you ever feel feel like kind of conflicted about the fact that you experiencing all the success might create situations that are negative for other people in your life? No, I don't feel away. Like, I feel like everything for a reason. Like, it's just life, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, that's why I had to get right with myself, locking on myself and realize, like, it's just what it come with. You know what I'm saying? And you can't let other situations impact how you feel or how your day go. because you know you can't you ain't have no control over it which i didn't so you don't make me feel no type of way but i just miss them these people i lost behind bars got lost to a grave yeah that's why i just made a song like opening up like just ringing them in like letting them know what a nigger going through instead of sugarcoat and you know because shit like real like i ain't

nothing to hide like it is what it is yeah a lot of people don't really want to show the world the pain that they're going through because the people that they don't get along with are obviously going to kind of revel in that so it's kind of as crazy when you see somebody lose somebody and you can tell that they don't even feel comfortable grieving publicly because they don't want it to be used against them um thanks um okay so uh what what what do you got planned as far as uh future stuff are you like fully focused on the music right now are you even out here doing interviews because you're like planning on dropping something in the near future?

I'm just, I'm just flowing, bro. Real talk, like, in life, like, I ain't, I ain't, I'm gonna say I'm fully loaded in this shit

because I'm real on some old shit, but I'm back, like, as far as, like, just doing, like, this shit, me and here talking interviews,

just doing the music side of shit, but I don't give a fuck, bro. I really don't. What's the motivation nowadays? the money the bills where I came from

that's about it speaking of where you came from who would you put on the Mount Rushmore of Alabama rap Dobby Cald Rallo me

solid solid for I forgot um okay anything else that we should uh keep an eye out for or what you got going on

you hit a billion streams on Apple music on all time that's a crazy number that's crazy when you hear shit like that that shit should motivate you like I gotta get back in the studio

fix but I don't care yeah like that should be like it's like it probably blow you probably don't believe me like I really don't though like I swear to God I don't so the most success you've ever

experienced it still doesn't really you never had a moment where you like fully felt like you celebrated your success it's just always back to the ground why you think you can't sit down and enjoy your successor, enjoy what you've been doing right now. I don't feel like I made it.

That's just straight up. So what is making it to you? Honey me. She Travis Scott just gave everybody on his table a Lamborghini. Yeah. Like, me appreciate it for the future. He goes to lamb. He made it.

Mosh Pit, $7,000, 70,000 people and shit. That's making it. that's real come on now i ain't these shit yet there's always more to go well okay but by the time you reach the end of your career when you're you know 60 70 years old like if you are only no like do you feel like if you're mostly like known as a hometown hero as a local star is that going to be enough for you or do you feel like you need to take it to more of like a national level in terms of your popularity no okay i just want the money brother straight up

That's what I'm focused on and I'm flipping this shit because I know this shit to slow down I know this shit water down I know it's fake

and I really don't like it bro like it brings too much just like everything you like y'all be talking about the shit like it just bring too much

unnecessary attention like and a nigga really not doing none of this real talk like shit beyond the nigga name nigga ain't like nigga probably

argue or something but yeah it just comes with too much, bro. I'd rather the next nigga blow up. But do you start me a label and get some artists? But do you think that that stress kind of takes the fun out of making music for you? Or do you still,

are you still able to kind of put that stuff aside and just enjoy the process? What you mean, like, the process of just making music? I mean, I enjoy the process of making the music, yeah, for sure. But, like, it'd be back to normal. You get what I'm saying? Like, say, I do a show. It's back to normal after the show. Right.

Say I got damn do a video. It's back the normal after the video. Which normal is great. Like, I'm blessed for my normal. I still have fun. I'm not going to live. I see your career. I'm like,

this nigga is selling how is the moment. Yeah, I still be lit. But it's normal. Like, I don't do shit, but I'd be chilling. Like, with my chair on the game. Like, it's normal shit. Like, I'm not no, I don't get up every day, put on the whole outfit in all my

juror and go up by my day and just have fun all day. That's not how I live my life. I wake up, go to the gym. you feel me, got damn view with my kids, go to the pool, play my game.

Like, I live a regular life, bro. Yeah. I mean, that's normal. Like, I, it's really because

I didn't got so okay with being alone. I feel like, like, I don't really care for it. Like, I really can just sit at my home all day

and be with my kids. No, it's a crazy feeling when you, like, or I had a meet and greet or a show or a whatever, and like,

you got a hundred people or a thousand people around you, you just hounding you, they want your attention so bad. And it just, you feel like, oh, my God, like, I'm a fucking superstar. And then you just go home and you're just playing with your kid. You're playing with Legos. And you're just like, I just went from like this moment of like pure just ego fueling.

And then I just leave that. I'm just back to being like the most normal person on earth. That's kind of always like a weird, like, thing to have these two things coexisting. That's what made me know I didn't give a fuck about it because I love, I love getting done. Like I love finishing the show wiping my sweat out sitting down

taking a deep breath knowing that I'm done for the night I love finishing my last song in the studio knowing I'm done for the night I love having a mean greet

mean everybody knowing I'm done for the night you know what I'm saying like I love rapping up the music side and going to just being a regular person

that's my piece I feel like the opposite of that is the dudes who basically like start getting fucked up doing drugs all the time and shit because they want to keep chasing that high. You know, if you can do that, do the show, and then just go back to your normal life.

I mean, I feel like that's a beautiful thing because that's where dudes, by the time they're in their 40s and shit, dudes always kind of figure that out. But most people's rap careers aren't necessarily long enough to like see that. Exactly. It's definitely an important skill, I think, for sure. Gotta be level-headed in this shit. Because people try to live somebody else's life, too. True.

Trying to be something than they're not. Yeah. You're trying to live like little baby, young boy and shit. I ain't on that level. Now you broke. Destined to be stressful. You got all these high-ass bills. You're paying for all these car notes and shit.

You can't fool me up. I'm gonna sit back, chill at home and be myself, I ain't trying to fastage. Faget with nobody. You see me, though. I'm on no jury. I'm on no jump on this shit from to be on. Everywhere.

You know what I'm gonna fuck about this shit. We already met before. You know what I'm saying? I know you can get icy. Not I get iced. I can get iced. Shout out to Remo. Shout out Big Yeva.

Everybody go turn them up on all streaming services, follow my men's on Instagram, et cetera, so you can stay tapped in with the movement. Should we go to Alabama? You still stay out there or like in that rough area or? No. You took off.

I'm staying Dallas. Ah, okay, okay. That's why we think you're at Texas artists sometimes too. I'm being Dallas, every singing. Definitely. That's my. Dallas.

Dallas. Gotta love Dallas. Gotta love Dallas. All right, man. Big Yevo. Appreciate your job for having me, brother. Much love. Much love.

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