No Jumper - Bill Haney On Training Devin Haney, Ryan Garcia, Growing Up In Oakland, BMF Ties & More!

Episode Date: April 18, 2024

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The Sharp Tank, no jumper, sharpest coolest podcast in the world. And today, I have the honor, the blessings of being in the presence of a real one. We have Mr. Bill Haney here, ladies and gentlemen. This one right here, man, is I'm very excited to do because I've always, like I said, I've always admired what you've done for your kids, for your kids, for your, family, you know, so to be able to sit next to somebody who's been able to change. That's a power. That's a gift to be able to help change somebody's life.

Him saying, not just your own, but somebody else's, you know, that speaks volumes to me, man. How are you doing today, brother? Man, I'm doing amazing, King, you know what I mean? You know, humdally la, you know, it's been amazing journey. It's been a great Ramadan, you know, Ramadan, you know, as well. So it's just, you know, we're looking forward to April the 20th, for one, Devin Haney versus Ryan Garcia. Yeah. And this, what we call Super Fight, two guys in their prime getting it together.

But it's always a pleasure and especially an honor and a pleasure to come over here with you at the Sharp Tank. You know what I mean? Well, the real sharp players and sharp chicks come on and sit down with a legend within himself. Thank you. To watch you make this transition. to now be in this place where, and have this platform that guys like me can come on and let everybody know what's going on. And the thing that I'm so proud for is the fact that my son is the best fighter in the world, Devon the Dream, Haney. Man.

And it's one more step towards the mile rushmore of boxing for him and Ryan Garcia. Ryan Garcia is a tough competitor. They've had a 3-3 amateur grudge match, so to speak, so to speak. This is the seventh fight. This is the one just deciding. This is game seven. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Ryan Garcia, you know, I think everyone's been hearing a lot about his antics and stuff like that.

That's not the Ryan Garcia that I know or we're preparing for. The Ryan Garcia that I know is a real fighter, a fighter that has what we call a goodnight Irene. You know, it can get them out of there. You did? You can get him out of there for sure. What do you think of all these antics that have been going on? Because like you said, that's not really the Ryan Garcia that we know. What do you think is going on?

Do you feel like this is a publicity stunt? Do you feel like he's – because to me, honestly, I feel like – and this is just my opinion, I feel like he's – it looks like he's trying to almost back out. Because like going crazy – Okay, okay. The going crazy, you know, the – I see. dead people fucking shit. I don't know what he's been on, but he's been on a crane. Like, I feel like he's trying to have that doctor and get him out of there to say he can't

fight for due to mental illness or problems that he may be having. I feel like he's, my personal, I feel like he's scared of death. Yeah. Well, you know, a fighter, you know, anyone that's representing any, you know, the boxing community, something that you've been doing all your life, a Ryan Garcia who represents the Brown community. And me knowing anything about my brothers, my brown brothers, when it comes down to the money, I've never seen him turn away from it. You did?

There's a whole lot of money on the table. I think that he's choosing for choosing some antics as a distraction. No different than that phone ringing. No different than Floyd himself. Yeah, no different than Floyd himself coming out and saying that Ryan Garcia versus Roly Romero, who just got knocked out the other day, was going to be. be a big fight, a bigger fight than necessarily a Devin Haney versus Ryan Garcia. We know that there's a lot of powers that be that do not want to see Devin make that next

step towards the Mount Rushmore boxing, being the real money man of the division. We've put deals on the table for not only Shakur Stevenson. We've put deals on the table for Tank Davis. I've heard you've went down and knocked on his door before. Hey, listen, man, you know in this game, that's what you got to do. You know, I gave him some news. used, you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah, you know what you're talking about? Yeah, and let

them know that it was some money on the table. And, you know, unfortunately, you know what I'm saying? For them and their fan base, it wasn't, they weren't ready for it. Ryan Garcia raised his hand, but he also said came with some stipulations. One of those stipulations being that he's now wanting to embrace different movements, you know what I mean? And I don't want to judge none of them. I don't want to get in the middle of them, right?

That's, to me, not boxing business. He says that now he's feeling about that while he has this platform between this big, great opportunity where people are looking to now start talking about these other things, man, I said, listen, if we would have known that that's what you were going to do, then maybe we would, we as a team would have looked at it different. But being that we're already, you know what I'm saying, in the process of this fight, we know that now, okay, that's just a distraction. You know what I mean? So you feel like if you would have knew this before the whole team, D.HP would have took a whole different direction. Yeah, well, we would have just told him that we would have put some stipulations in there and said, okay, are you going to, for X amount of time, you know, be on the fight?

Are you going to be? What are you going to be? And, you know, and then it would have been something that would have been clear cut. And if you would have said, okay, well, I'm going to use the fight and I'm going to use this as an opportunity to introduce all these other things, then when you ask me that question, I'll say, it's calculated. It's part of the promotion. So the thing that we're blindsided by is that no one traditionally doesn't do what this guy is doing.

So I'm going to assume that he's educated and knows what he's doing. And I'm just trying to get us off of our thing. You know what I mean? And that's not going to happen. So you say you hate that this is happening. You feel like this is really not a part of boxing. You don't want people to feel like this spectacle that's been happening as a part of boxing. Devin has been preparing himself.

He seems very motivated. And I like how he even sat down in the press conference. He was like, what are you doing, man? It's like there's young kids that look up to us. Right. You know what I'm saying? So I like where his mind's at in this. Absolutely, absolutely sharp.

And these are the times when you really get a chance to show how great you are by the way that you deal with the distractions. You dig? So whether he shows up, he doesn't show up, he does whatever he's going to do. Devin's next stop is, you know, taking over the broadcasting network, taking over the fan base, taking over the arena, and that's whoever shows up. You know what I mean?

We came for it all, man, period. And Ryan Garcia and the rest of the guys are just, you know, stops on Devin's way to the Mount Rushmore boxing being mentioned amongst the greats. If Ryan is deemed out, is there anybody that's already scheduled that will be there for that fight night? Yeah, well, it was a, it's a guy that was on the stage,

you know what I mean that was hungry as a low ball wolf looking to step in and you know like anybody else in that position. With everything that's on the line, Devin is hungry. So why it wouldn't be another person?

You know what I mean? I think the thing about Ryan is is he hungry or is he or is he playing? You know what I mean? And on April the 20th, that's going to be decided. I cannot wait to see

what covers. of that one because my money's on Devon. I've actually went to Devon Annie Fight. I've came. I've supported. I think it's amazing what you've done with them. Like, I got a question for you. What was your upbringing like for you?

Because we see how you've raised your son, you know, let's give the people a little insight on you. Well, you know, I grew up in Oakland. You know what I mean? Okay. Yeah. Yeah, town business for sure for show all day, every day, deep east Oakland.

But, you know, within that, Even in our community, my mom was a black panther. You know what I mean? So, yeah, so she represented, you know, being a strong black woman. You know what I mean? And she knew that, you know, she explained to me no matter what, you know, it's going to be somebody that's just not going to like me for the color of my skin. You know what I mean?

And that I'm going to just have to just, I'm black and I got to be proud. And just that's what it's going to be no matter what. And through that, growing up in Oakland and knowing that, and then having examples of independence and even in music, whether it be 40 or short, you know, two guys that I know personal, personally, you know what I mean, Richie Rich and all these guys who have always been an example of independence. You know, so to go back to Oakland, where we don't have any crips,

no bloods, no none of that, and to work for somebody would be not the B.H. way. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Straight up. Yeah, yeah. So like I always say, you know, growing up in Oakland means the world to me. When it's town business, it's in you. It's not on you.

So I'm going to take it wherever I go. I wanted to move out of Oakland to give my boys a better start than me because I wanted to be really their big homie, the big homie that I didn't have because my big homie gave me drugs and guns and shit like that. You know. and I knew that I was able to do more, but he didn't see that in me. You know what I mean?

So I wanted to make sure that when I had the opportunity to pick one, I wanted to pick mine to be my sons. You know what I'm saying? And then they get behind whatever that's in them. You know what I'm saying? Whatever that they're passionate about, you know what I mean? Because my big homies, they pick some guys. I just wasn't one of the ones they picked.

So I always said, you know, when I got on, I wanted to be example for other homies to go back home, you know what I mean, and grab your son or grab your daughter because they need you for real, for real. You know what I mean? And not just sometime, but all the time. I believe I had read one time that how Devin got in the box and I believe he was getting into fights at school or something like that. Man, Devin was terrible. And you said that you didn't believe in, you don't believe in hitting your kids. No, because it ain't going to work.

You know what I'm saying? It ain't going to work. Terrible. Terrible. No, I mean, really. I want people to know he was bad or being described as being bad. And that's the thing that I want you to know most is that sometimes that kid that you can say and just fighting all the time, I took him to the gym. And I initially thought I said, okay, well, this will let him know that if you know how to, I mean, there's some real kids that really know how to fight.

And when he went to the gym on the first day, the coach, after it was all over, it said that it was a natural. And I had never heard that term being described before with him because we was on the football. That's my, what's up, love one? You're all right? You know, we over here real sharp. You're sharp. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's skinned.

He from L.A. So my family. So you took him to the boxing gym. Yeah, so. He said he was a natural. So absolutely. So when I took him to the boxing gym for the first time, Devin, you know, it just happened to be a kid in there, coincidentally, that was a, like, Muay Thai kind of kid that knew karate,

but he was working on his stand-up game in boxing. So we put him in there, and he had on some Velcro shoes. You know our kids, you know, they wear the shoes that they ain't tied up, and it ain't all tied up, You know, when Deb got through with him, the kid went that way, his shoes went that way. And the trainer, he yelled out, your kid is a natural. I said, I looked over there and I looked at my guy, you know, because he still got that just mean look on his face, like he still ain't satisfied. And everybody else is, like you, they smile and you did what I'm saying?

They said he's a natural with it because after all the fighting and all the ass whipping that he didn't did to get to the top, he's still hungry. still hungry and through that competitiveness and that natural ability that he had how many other kids are being misdiagnosed or misrepresented you know what tons thousands so so we wanted our story to resemble something that everybody can go and go do you know what I mean and that doesn't mean that we didn't meet you know what I mean very successful people with hell of five companies that we could have partnered up with but I think that that would have watered the story down and created a narrative that a regular guy that believes in his son

and his son believing in him couldn't make this shit happen and get cracking with it, you know what I mean? So you believe if you wouldn't have got him about Oakland, your kids would have been on some other shit. You already seen the future ahead for him. Yeah, well, you know what I mean? And I think that it would have, whether they would have or not, I would have been behind them.

So we was going to get cracking with it sooner or later. And you know what I'm saying? It was going to be what it was going to be, just like it's going to be in Vegas. or anywhere else, you know what I'm saying? I just knew that based on, you know, how I was being represented in Oakland and what they were going to have to live by, you know what I'm saying, there. I said, well, let's just give them their own fresh start and their own identity.

And they started kicking ass from there. Yeah, because he ain't no lie. He's a bad man, but he's respectful, very humble. I got the chance to catch back up with him. I interviewed him at the BET Awards. Yeah. stopped with him for a few minutes, got to chop it up with him. You know, great kid.

That's the Bayway. You know what I'm saying? That's the Bayway. And I always tell you, you know what I'm saying? There's some real players up my way. And they don't really get credit for a lot of times that what we do and how we represent, you know what I'm saying, in general. And it's not always easy, you know what I'm saying, to stand alone, you know what I mean,

and do it the way that we do it out to town and be, you know what I'm saying? Because, you know, it's more easier to say you're a cripple. more easy to say you're blood or affiliate, you know what I'm saying? But when you see town, you know what I mean? You say, this is standing on business. He's going to stand on the right. If he with you, he with you. And it don't matter the color or the flag.

If we down with you, you know what I'm saying? You are our folks, our family. You know what I'm saying? We're going to ride. And that's a test to our mamas and daddy's the way that they, you know what I mean? A lot of that, that panther and, you know what I mean? A lot of that, you know, other, the mother letters. You know what I'm saying?

that have inspired and embraced guys to represent. And I think I might be one of the ones that have a platform to kick it. But it's a whole lot of other guys just like me that's going hard about their sons. You know what I'm saying? They're in the trenches. And I'm telling them, keep grinding, king, keep grinding, queen. You know what I'm saying? Your time is coming.

My son right there, you know what I'm saying? I wake him up. He's 14. Sean, what do I say about 163 and 1? What do I say? Are you what? Yeah, I ask him. I wake him up every morning to go to tennis.

I said, are you number 163 or are you number one? Because the other day in tennis, I told him the difference is that you can be 163 in the world and be slotted in the bracket that you end up playing against the number one player in the world and beat him and be that guy. You know what I mean? Yeah. He recognized it, okay, I beat that guy. And you got to go from there and going from there.

And so I wake him up every morning. I say, okay, you're still 163, is you ready to beat that guy? So we get at it. You know what I'm saying? We get at this shit just like we got at it with boxing, with the one thing in mind to being the best. So I think that that's what being a hainy is. My father taught me that.

My mother taught me that, you know what I'm saying? And Oakland, and I represent it. So, you know what I mean? We just let this shit every day. Speaking of represent, what's your take on the current event, like the ditty situation? What's your take on all that, man? I mean, you know, different.

As another black man, you know, just what's your take on him in his situation right now? Different strokes for different folks, you know what I'm saying? You know, when Diddy had his chance, he wasn't talking about BH. So, you know, now I got my chance. You dig on what I'm saying? I'm going to talk about B.H. You know what I'm saying? I ain't going to talk about him, you know what I mean?

Hey, that's respect. I ain't even bad at it. You, man, you've been having, let's talk about it, bro. You've been having bread way before Devon even started boxing. Yeah. was already on. So it takes money to put these kids in these, in these situations.

Did you have any other business endeavors, things like that that you were into before? Not nothing illegal, church is saying. No, no, no, no. No, with all due respects, I mean, I stopped caring about money a long time ago. Yeah. You know what I mean?

And when I stopped caring about it, I just couldn't get rid of it. You know what I mean? I love that shit right there. Yeah, you know what I mean? I don't care nothing about it. You know what I mean? It just always seems to follow me.

You know what I mean? Because let me just tell you, though, sometimes though money you dig, when you really got your priorities on and you on top of your game, money can be a distraction for you, you know what I mean? And ultimately, me being a Muslim, you know, paradise, you did. So I know what the ultimate place and ultimate gift comes from Allah, you know what I mean? And then the distraction being the money, you know, so obviously, you know, money is a good thing. It's there to help people. It's there to help people. You know what I'm saying?

It's not necessarily there for you. You know what I mean? So when I mastered, when I mastered that part of it, you know, it's just none of this shit is a problem, man. This shit is easy. Do you feel like you've taught Devin to master the same traits or master the same thing? You're teaching him like, hey, man, money ain't everything because he's a multimillionaire. You know what I'm saying? He's great at what he does.

He's undefeated. Ain't nobody fucking with him. Do you teach him them same traits that you did that, hey, man, money ain't everything. Do this because you love it. Don't do it just because you can make some money off of it. Yeah, fortunately, him, like I said, boxing and him found each other. You know what I mean? It was like a marriage, you know?

It was like a cowboy finding a gun and a horse, you know what I mean? Right. You know, he just rode off, and it was just a beautiful sight to see them from that very first day in the gym to where he is now. And it's not that we ever tried to duplicate that, you know what I mean? Because that came so natural, just like when I saw my son. my youngest son, swinging the tennis racket for the first time. No one else, and our family, had swung the racket, and everybody else that grabs it.

They don't swing it just like he swung it for the first time. So, you know, Devin has a different passion about the sport of boxing. That money, you know what I mean? When I look in the yard and I look at that Lamborghini and that Virgil and that four-by-four and all that shit like that, you know what I mean, that cullinan and all. all that shit like that and I see him and I say, damn, you know, the kid got a lot of distractions that would be, I mean, they got a lot of things that would be distraction to a guy that's not living in his passion and his purpose.

You did? He's living in his passion, what he likes to go do. That's his way of getting away from all that, what everybody else considers, you know, fly shit is to go into his element. And of course, when you live in that, you're living in your passion. and you getting paid for it, then, you know, you're happy. Yeah. He would, uh, they tried to stop you, bro, from going to Australia from Devin Haney's, like,

against George Cambosos, right? Yeah, they tried, listen. What the fuck was the problem? I don't know, but, you know, we turned, we turned a, um, a tragedy, what's somewhat tragic situation in finding a silver lining that I got a chance to see Devin, um, go to Australia as a man on his own. on his own. And he told me, he's like, he hugged me in the airport and said,

Pop, I'm going to go get these belts and I'm going to bring him home. So for you, you know what I mean? See how you can smile and say, damn, I live that. That's powerful. Yeah, but I got a chance to live it and see him do that. Instead of it being like, you never get a chance to see your kid become that man that you know that he's going to be through all the jewels and gems that you've seen him get along the way. So I got a chance to see that.

And then in the 11th hour, you know, three hours before the flight, they call me and tell me get ready to go. So, you know what I mean? It was amazing feeling to then actually go there and what my son get on the mic and the first thing. He says, is humdh-lilah. You know what I mean? And then says that he loves the moment, but he couldn't see having that moment with nobody else other than me. That's deep, bro. And that's special to have that bond with your son like that, man.

that he didn't want to spend that with nobody else at that time, that moment. You know, to have that togetherness is everything. And by the way, he whipped that boy's ass. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Went over there and played on his land because he was talking to all that shit, talking about, yeah, let's fight over here. No problem.

And you know what? Just, you know, to make sure that the listeners kind of understand because I think that the father and son thing when you hear it is it can appear to be, kind of harsh in a sense of it's hard to have a whole lot of lifespan in the father and son because a son then becomes a father but i think it's definitely three parts to it where as as a very young man i was his protector and then in those middle years i became a teacher and then these years you know i'm his friend you know what i mean we have a hell of a friendship and through that you know what i mean i know that like i said those moments he's went to australia

Of course, those moments when he got his first apartment, you know, I didn't maybe sleep as well. You know what I mean? Right. But by the time he got that, you still my baby, right, right. The end of the day, I don't care how old he gets. And anybody that gangbangs you care about or you wonder, is your comrade all right? Or if you, your brother, or your Aki or your whatever, you know what I mean? No different than that same connection that I have with all my.

my sons, you know what I mean? And it wasn't about, I told him, I said, well, God, he's like, what's up? I was like, well, man, if you, who you are, then you will have to break away from that, because I'll carry you as long as you need to be carried you. You're my guy. I'll carry you. Like, I didn't carry brothers in the street, like I didn't been carried. That's part of it.

But when you can stand up and you on your own, then walk, go ahead and howling it. Why do you feel like that element's missing today in the streets or in our culture? You'm saying? That element of like, hey, if you're my guy, you're my guy. I got you. I'm here to help you. I feel like that's missing now. And I feel like that's why there's a lot of misguided young men out here is because that trait's missing of just even meeting a guy up the street or a dude of the

liquor's where he's just taking a liking to you, man, always trying to give you some game. Always trying to give you some news you can use, you know? Yeah. I feel like that shit's almost died. It's dead, bro. It's them died out. You know, where these kids, they're going crazy, you know? Look at Devon.

A kid that somebody's been hands on with. versus look at some of these kids out the street. They don't got nobody being hands-on with them. No, absolutely. But I think that, you know, you have opportunities like coming in the Shark Tank and the Sharp Tank and really hammering home that players, gangsters, you know, the rappers, the musicians, you know,

they need to go home and grab these youngsters. You got jewels. You got at the house, you really have stars. at home and not in the sky. You dig? Yeah. It's cold right there. Because I understood that.

No, but don't go over the head, man. That was some cold game. I ain't got a lot. Yeah. Were you, uh, were you ever tired to be a man? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I've never.

I'm just asking, church. I got to ask you. Listen, I've never been asked that question. That's crazy. But you know what? That is crazy. No, yeah. But, yeah.

But, yeah. But, yeah. But, yeah. Yeah, and, you know, I'm happy to say that, you know, on your show, that I represent the part of it that got away and not the part of it that got caught. And getting away means getting one more time, church. I said I, that got away, not the part that got caught. Hmm. You want to leave it there or you want to keep it?

Well, no, but with that saying is it's not a whole lot of talking to be, you know what I mean, to be said, if you really represent what you supposed to represent, then it's a whole lot of work that you're going to bend and seen the motherfucker put in. You know what I mean? And if you take that same attitude of family and apply it to your family, then you might be looking like the heinous. You did. Let's just tell the truth. You were that nigger in your time, church. You was that niggie in your time.

Like I said, you was already having been. So I don't want people to think like, what's their relationship based off of Devin having bread? This nigga Ben having bread. Yeah, but see. All money. Right. But see. He said he don't give a fuck.

But see, when you got the, when you really got the kind of money, it's going to show in the, and your offspring. And it's going to show in the kids. You know what I mean? It's going to show and how much fun you didn't really had when it's time for you to kick back and watch and chaperone and be, you dig. What I'm saying? Like, you know, it's different levels of this shit, you know? And I think that, you know, it's, you know, it's different levels of this shit, you know. And I think that.

you know, as time goes on, you'll get a chance to really see what this family shit really represent. You know what I mean? And yeah, I'm probably the one that's fortunate enough to have a platform and say something. You know what I mean? But it's a lot of, like I said, yeah, I said it's a lot of brothers that's living and shouldn't breathe in and not getting their flowers too. So I want to give everyone else their flowers not for doing what tea. I was on the couch with tea for my mother's funeral. I was at Big Tea house, and I went to slept on the couch

just because I only had a little bit of time to be in the city and I wanted to make sure I spent some time with him. You know, and the one thing about tea and what tea represents now that's different is not putting yourself in a way in a position that you won't be there for your family, be there for a little tea because, you know, T and the family, everyone else can watch a part of the movie and say, okay, you know, that's fly and all the shit. But when you get that kind of time that bro had got, you got that kind of time that Meach has gotten,

then, you know, the family can only really tell the story, you know what I'm saying, really tell. Right. Right. So as young, I mean, you can tell that I couldn't go. You didn't want to be a story. Well, I mean, I had, just like Australia, you know what I mean? The world found out that I had already did some time in 1990. too. So I'd already been to the federal penitentiary by the time me and T and all them was

running around. You know what I mean? So I was the one that was a young dude being from Oakland telling them, dog, y'all doing too much for them bitches, man. You look what I'm saying? You dig. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So after, and I tell him still then, I said, all right, you see, I'm a nigga, I don't be doing all that for them bitches like that, you know what I'm saying? I ain't trying to throw mine in there and trying to just do anything. dang and just crash out. Like these niggas be talking about crashing out, doing,

getting felony after felony, getting it stacked up around country. That's ignorant. Hey, man, come on, man. Listen. And now the girls are running around here with more jury-owned than the guys. And then, you know, y'all running up and around, like that revolving door, right, where you go and go do 10 and 12 and you come back home and you're trying to get back to the club to do something for them chicks,

man, come on, man. got to knock that off, man. I've been, man. I've been right here, man. I've been watching y'all, man. Y'all got to knock it off, man. It ain't that serious, though. Hey, all everything I love, bro. Man, come on, man. They got so much fake ice and fake diamonds and all that shit like that. Man, I'm talking about to my real hustlers, man.

Man, come on, man. Go ahead and go home. It stars that in your house, man. Stop paying attention to the TV, to the sky. No, none of that, man. You got enough money for them kids, man, for you to develop something. We get millions and minutes, man. It ain't nothing but 36 minutes in the fight, man. And we get millions and millions of dollars and that fast, man. Do you think that street shit is worth it still, though?

Do you really think it's worth it, man? Be that shit alone, man. Why do you think, what do you, how do you think they get drawn into? Do you feel like it's just temptation and that's... No, God give you enough money, King. He give you enough money for that development of the kid. The one blessing you get and the one responsibility you get as a child, if you get a chance to get it.

because I've been living a long time it only happened four times for me I only have four times I only got four times I got blessed with it with a baby you know how many times I didn't come on man how many times you have how many kids you got

two look them is blessings them is only we choose the Rose Royce we pick the house we pick all the other shit but a lot picks those times that you're going to get together with that particular partner and have some kids man I just take mine a little bit more serious

That's all you did. I've always did that. But I know I think that a lot of that comes from being from Oakland and being the eldest one, you know, because I had a little brother. So I already know how treacherous and how vicious niggas is going to be because they'd be scared to death. So they want the little homie to go do it. They want the little homie to go crash out.

Especially DB's Oakland, nigga. That's not the easiest place to grow up in, bro. It's not. It's very rough. And you got to know how to maneuver around there, bro. Because you get your ass, man, emptied up fast playing around there and they get knocked off quick, being ignorant. You know, so I'm glad that you try to show your sons

and show your family like, hey, man, we don't have to do this to get money. No. We don't have to engage with what everybody else is doing. I don't want to see my sons get no sentences or lose their life out here playing. Here, let's go make some money together. Absolutely. I'll show you.

See, I like that about you, though, VH, because he ain't just going to tell your kid to go get some, different money here. Let me show you how. Absolutely. I'm going to show you how. I'm going to get hands on with you. I'm going to put all my time into you and show you that, hey, we can develop you into something amazing. Absolutely. That's the whole thing that I said is when you got real money to me. And I ain't saying if to everybody.

Listen, come on. I mean. What's real money? Because we got to do your definition. when you have enough that you have a car, you have a place, you have something to eat, you know what I mean, when you have enough for you and then you have enough for your kid, you don't have enough, you might. That's rich to you. That's rich to me. That's enough money. That's enough money because there's been times that I've had where no matter what the house, the size of the house, no matter what the car.

was I still needed money for gas. I still needed some groceries. You know what I mean? When you got seven bathrooms, you need seven rolls of toilet paper, nigga. When one, nigga, when one bathroom is one bathroom is low, nigga, we low on money. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? What was it like when you went to Jay Z's house? Amazing. Amazing. You got around a lot of rappers, a lot of stars. They fuck with you, bro. Listen, ain't no doubt. Listen, and Jay-Z being, you know, at the pinnacle, at the tip-top of star power, going to his house.

And everyone says, okay, well, what would you take to $500,000 or take the meeting? Absolutely, I'm going to take the meeting. Because you've had bread. So for you, you're like, maybe I can get something out this conversation that can take me to a whole other level because you've been having the money. You're like, $500,000. There might be something I get out of this conversation that could take me on the rest of my life.

One sentence, one thing. No, absolutely. And most people view it as instantly you're going to want to hear something about some money and it's going to set you on that course. But for me, right, I wasn't, I went into it open-minded and willing to listen. but the thing that I learned from him

when he said that it's like it's like it can be having one minute and then it can be a hell when he looks around and he doesn't see his daughter or his daughter is not around or something that and for that minute he's like oh my God, you know, his whole world is shook up and for me it's the same way with my daughter

and with my sons as well, you know, especially being the young ones and that let me know that, you know, I was on the right course, that every man, that every man, no matter what the money is, no matter what the status, when it comes down to it is, it's the relationship that you have with your kids, the comfortability, where they are, and all that in life, you know what I mean, that you look back on.

Speaking of heaven and hell, do you feel like heaven and hell is what you make it? No, I mean, actually... You have heaven on earth or hell on earth? Well, you can definitely, you can definitely have that. You can definitely have that, but I also believe that Allah gives heaven to some on earth. And then he lets them know that, you know, when you get to judgment day, well, you had your heaven. And you didn't do everything that you could have did while having the heaven. So now you have hell.

And then I believe that, you know, there are people that suffer, you know, to make others lives better, who might experience a little bit of hell that will, eventually receive paradise. You know, so, you know, I mean, like, for me, for me personally, shout out Rebo, man. I'll see you boy at the building. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

Yes, sir. And, yeah, for me, definitely, when you're not living out your passion and you're not, you haven't found your purpose, then it can be hell. And for me, you know, living in that life. And I was always like, I would have all them queasy and all them feelings and, you know, all that anxiety and shit like that. And I'm like, man, you know, we got all the fly shit, but I just don't feel good. You know what I mean?

And now to have that kind of money again in life, but to not have that anxiety, not have those queasy feelings to be with my family and to be doing things positive and not necessarily looking over my shoulder and stuff, you know, I say that, you know, now it's a time that I wouldn't have believed if you had told me, you know, 20 or 30 or 3.000. 30 years ago that the better times was ahead of me. So then I say to a lot of the families, a lot of the hustlers, I was like, man, don't crash out. I was like, man, bro, if you would have thought, like, back in the day, it's like with me

that for some conversation with a guy or some chick that I crashed out and now couldn't be right here. You dig what I'm saying? So I'm telling them, I'm like, no, don't do that player. You dig. You might be the one that spit out that next LeBron or that next. You know what I mean? Jordan or that next Michael Jackson or that next you dig?

Yeah. And it's just and it's just growing and it's just bubbling. You know what I mean? You give good game and good conversation to a lot I can tell. You influence a lot. Where do you get yours from? Like, who do you get to turn to? Because it seems like a lot of people turn to you, you know?

Yeah. In physical form. Right. Is there anybody? I know you're going to say Allah like that's who I talk to. Right. You know, but who do you turn to that you really can have like that hard to our conversation? and get some advice.

Well, it's easy because it goes back to what do you, what would you like? You know, it just, and it's whether it be in the Bible or the Quran, I mean, a natural feeling of doing to others as that you would want done unto you, you know what I mean? My grandmother kind of always taught me that. So, you know, coming in, it was hard for me. You know what I mean?

Like I didn't come from a family that had been in the game. You dig? So, you know, I'm going to get, you know, they're going to try everything on me, you know what I mean? You know, see you smile because you know, you're going to get tried. You dig. So to everybody that's jumping off the porch, and then they tell me, you know, how great they're doing. I said, man, knock it off, man.

You did. You around this motherfucker struggling and smuggling and hoping that you're going to get picked up. And, you know what I mean? Shit going to work out, you know, but I think I can talk more to the players and the hostas around the world and tell them to knock it off with that. You can. So other kids. Yeah, yeah, but then that inspires other kids like Devin, right?

Because I told him, I was like, man, don't look at Pops. I said, man, look at Floyd. You know what I'm saying? I said, look at him, Doc. You know what I'm saying? And when you look at him, you look at a guy that's 150, 160 pounds like you are that you have grown to be, 5 or 9, 5, 10, whatever, you know what I mean, like around what he is, you dig?

And you see him making a whole lot of money in minutes. So when you have an opportunity for someone to see something in one of the youngsters and then have the wherewithal to connect them with someone else to successful in that other than just like saying, hey man, look at me, man, focus on me, pay attention, man, I'm a bad motherfucker when really, really you might be a bad motherfucker, but you can definitely help that youngster to be bad than you. Right. That's real shit, though, right?

I'm mad at that. Speaking of Floyd, it's a fun one for you. Who you got, Floyd Mayweather and 50 center are they about to get ready to get out, right? They go, who would you have about that fight? Had a 50 in Florida. How did you have got a little squabble?

Yeah, I don't think that they go, I don't think that, I don't think that they go box. No, you don't think so? No, I don't think that there's enough money that, because, come on, you know Floyd don't come for the bag. Huh? If you got a bag for Floyd, he got about six, seven good rounds,

and him, give him a million a round. Listen, the last good fighter Floyd got in the ring with was Devin Haney, and he ain't been in the ring with no good fighter since then. Yeah. Yeah, that was about, when Dev was 18, I think before the Connor McGregor fight. From that point on, I knew Floyd knew that he had passed a torch. You know what I mean? So I started, bro.

So, you know, that was right around the time I started talking a whole lot, a lot of shit. shit, you know what I'm saying? Because I knew that Floyd, he don't, when he's sparring and you go look at all the sparring, he whips ass, bro. He do. He whips ass. Like, it does those doghouse joints, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You fight till you're done? Right, right. So. You ever let you ever do it? Yeah. Like, fight to you? Fight to you.

That was the one that I had won the money on with Tank. When, when we had bet, I bet against the Cleveland mob. And then I think Floyd and Ryan put out a, highlight tape. Y'all was betting like, oh, let's make the bet.

Yeah, I mean, because with Broner and them Cincinnati and the Cleveland dudes, you really, they'd be on the gambling shit, and this was before I took my shahada. You know, so I, you know, I mean, you know, I had some stacks around. Yeah, why not?

Yeah, why not? Let's make it happen. And, you know, but the best thing is that I was able to take the money after Dev, cooked tank, and then I was able to double it. So he cooked Tank Day. this in the match.

Oh, man, I took the money. I won, man, and I did some phenomenal things with it. I'm still living off of the player. That might be one of my accountants right there. You did. Oh, I did some phenomenal things with the money, man. I'm still here smiling. Never fuck with a player, man.

That's the right. You never fuck with a player, man. He's trying to see you had a few stacks and put them up. He took mine easy, no problems. Yeah, but we didn't bet anything on the floor. thing on the Floyd Sparring that was strictly No, but that one was strictly about doing a check to see

what's happening because of course Devin had already sparred Tank in the doghouse I mean Devin had already spar Shikour in the doghouse So I mean, for people that's not familiar with the dog house, the doghouse is you show up you go for as long

as you can round for fucking round until somebody says I'm done or you drop. Oh yeah well So somebody had to say they were done or got dropped in that fight for them to for well the boy Shakur he said he said I stopped I'm done I'm tired of score Stevens yeah I'm done I'm stopped I'm tired that's on YouTube you can go check that out Devonhany versus you

Shakur Stevenson I'm tired Shakur Twitterson or Stevenson whichever one and then you got you got you got you got Dev and tank you go on there on YouTube with not just a highlight film but you're going to ask the YouTube community and just type in did we win them money because we won the money. And then, you know, of course, we did the check with Floyd himself. And that was a, but with all fairness, that was respect and it was a privilege and an honor to Devin, to experience it and to get it.

But when you talk about talking about it, of course I'm going to talk about it. I mean, we're just talking about it. I mean, I didn't set up the second sparring session because they didn't want to set up the second sparring session, but we was available if he wanted to do it again. So do you know what I mean? In an actual match, you feel like Tank may be ducking Devin at this point? Because I feel like it's going to happen.

Because I feel like it's going to eventually happen. It's working its way up to it. I don't know what it's going to happen. Maybe in the next couple years, maybe in the next three might happen. but I definitely see a Devin Haney Tang Davis fight coming and boy that's gonna be for the motherfucking records

that's gonna be for the history of all this shit going on right now like I'm gonna be honest with you Floyd's big but those two boys hop in that ring man bro Floyd A church you've done your thing these kids are gonna be they're already the greatest thing out those two kids hop in the ring man we're talking

fuck at least a hundred full meech don't walk away 150 something stupid it's gonna be something fucking crazy and I already know it and I know you you're not only a good friend to your son you're a good business partner too and you make sure that boy going if he's gonna get in there it's gonna be something that he can't refuse because if he's already beat up on the boy in a sparring match you know what I'm saying it's kind of like we ain't got nothing to really prove unless you put up some real bread like unless there's some real bread to be had at I'm talking something stupid. Superfight money, we're talking in Superfights,

honey, 10, maybe. Well, I mean, you know, we're in the town. You know, we're in the town and we got all them pretty things lined up. We got everything. We got everything that makes the dance partner, the ultimate dance partner. What the money going to be is going to be. You dig what I'm saying? You know, yeah.

It's going to be a billionaire off this shit. Yeah, well, I mean, it's going to come. That part of it, you know you've got to negotiate for it, but you got to get both parties willing to get in the ring and make it happen. You know what I mean? And, you know, part of it is coming to the sharp tank. And, you know what I mean, really putting this thing down and letting the people know. So they can demand it.

You dig? Is boxing, is it more to get the business side done than the actual fight? Like, to get the paperwork done, make sure everybody's signed on, make sure he's agreeing for the weight, agreeing for the gloves. Like, you feel like that's more work. in the fight itself? I mean, you know with this thing, either you want to do it

or you don't want to do it, you know what I'm saying? He says all that shit can be by-passed. Yeah, man, all this. Doing all that, he says something's wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. That's crazy, man. Absolutely.

Were you scared when Bernard Hopkins asked you to meet him in the bathroom to fight that night? Hell no, I wasn't scared. Hell no, I wasn't scared. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, absolutely. Absolutely. No, absolutely. You know, like I told him, I mean. What happened?

Can you, like, give me a debrief of what the fuck even? Because I didn't know that you got even had any type of altercation with Bernard. No, I think that Bernard, that was something that he realizes now that, you know, doesn't work. You really want of them people, though, like. Doesn't, yeah, that doesn't work. No. You know, nor do you think that you can bully me or you can get me out of, out of my position. You can trick me out my position. You know what I mean? Of course, as you can see,

you know, I was going to go. God favor you. The devil do too. Yeah, I was, I was prepared at that point time to go to jail, hell, or wherever about the situation. You know what I mean? It didn't. It didn't matter to me. But of course, Bernard, he did that, you know, the Philly Row, and he rolled on about this business, you know, I wish him, wish him well, you know what I mean. You know, as long as he, you know, it doesn't need to go any further. You're a very humble guy. Like, you, because you really could talk some shit, but you really kind of like sit back and just don't really give a fun. I got another question for you, man. You actually turned down a deal with, from Floyd Mayweather. Was that, you know what I'm saying? Is that why, y'all probably, it seems like y'all aren't on good

terms are you guys on good terms? Well, I mean, I think... Turn down a damn deal from Floyd. No, well, I think that right now, the biggest fighter that he has on his roster that he's built has been Giovante Davis, correct? Correct. So I would think that, you know,

what he's built with Mayweather promotions, Javante Davis has been great. It's been phenomenal. And I think what Devin Haney and Devin Haney promotions has built with Devin Haney has also been phenomenal. Yeah, it's great. So, so far it's, you know, Floyd won, Floyd Mayweather one, Bill Haney one.

You know what I mean? He's developed one and I've developed one too. And that's how you looked at it from the very beginning. I said, yeah, I said definitely we can do, we can do that on our own, have our independence and still represent this shit. So, and it'd be a blueprint and green print for another father and son and inspirational to them. But if we had took the easier route that we felt and just did it with Floyd and less more convenient, then it would falsely describe, you know what. It would take the story.

Yeah, yeah. And it will be a false description of what we really could have did because what we could have done is what we have done. And instead of being lazy or being insecure in the moment and saying, okay, Floyd, give us the paper, instead of you just putting the leg down. So, I mean, that's what we wanted to represent, and that's what we did. He didn't understand. You're a businessman, too, church.

So you know business. He's like, nah. And I feel like it would really, and I have to say that again, I feel like it would really taint the journey some. It's like, damn, you got a Floyd, of course. Right. All right, of course, this is what happened,

instead of showing that this was going to be the journey regardless. Right. This is what was going to happen. No distractions. We don't need no cover up or blanket laying over with Floyd's name over it. this will be all Devin Haney. Right. And that's, like I said, all these are opportunities to show how great we are.

And then even going with Bernard Hopkins, you know, when you work to get in this position, it's easily for the guys to get tricked off the street. You know what I mean? And I know everybody is watching. And, you know, for me to be able to assess it and say, okay, with Bernard Hopkins, that's it. You know what I mean? Like, that's fucking it.

You dig? So hopefully, right, right? So hopefully some other dad or mom aren't buffalo end up thinking that it was going, it's going to be more. Because that's it. You did? That was it. Bro, I don't know how you do it and how you get the fuck up around all these stars and celebrity. Because you've been around them for years, obviously, for what I'm about to say.

I've heard you've had an actual chance to me too, Papa. Yeah, absolutely. How was that, man? I was, you know, listen. I mean, listen, so Richie Rich is a good friend of mine. You know, he's from, he's from Oakland, Deep East Oakland. He brought, he brought Tupac around us, you know what I mean, for, you know, several different occasions. And, you know, the Tupac that I got a chance to meet was a gentleman.

And that's what represented us, you know what I mean? It wasn't the same Tupac that everyone else has had the pleasure of meeting that I see on social media and stuff like that. I met the early on, Tupac, you know, this was Brenda's got a baby and all that kind of stuff. You know what I mean? Then it changed that. Well, that's why I fucked your bitch. Then it's just like, yeah, you're right. And then it just kind of jumped off the deep end. Yes. And that's, and that's, and that's, and that's, it changed drastically. You're right. Well, well, that's always the thing is that if you really from the soil, then you could have never been a blood or you can never be a Crip. You know what I mean? Because if you from up our way,

then that, that's not what we, that's not what we have. We got blocks. We got, you know what I mean? We got circles, cliques, we got anything, but we don't have. And it's representative of who, that street, that area, that whatever, that beef, whatever, that's there. You know, we've never adopted anyone else's culture, anyone else's traditions or anything on ours. So independent, I always say, this is the, this is the Mac Dre shit of boxing. This is the two-short shit of boxing. This is Master P when he first came to Oakland when he started his shit in Valé.

and Oakland and all that. This is that and boxing. And, you know what I mean? That's why I say that Devin is the face of the sport. Because when you look back on it and you ask the kids, or you look on it today and you ask the kids, well, what way would you want to do your career? Who would you want to pattern your career after right now?

And I guarantee you most fathers and sons, mothers and sons, will say Devin Haney. Like I said, when I seen him at the press conference, and Ryan's up there on this fucking tangent about, yeah, I've done drugs. Like, I even see a Devinner. He was like, hey, bro, that's a bad idea. I don't think you should be saying that, gang.

Like, we got little kids that look up to us, bro. Like, you can't be on here admitting your vices, my man. Like, I feel like whatever you do, some of that shit need to stay in the privacy of your own home, dog, and privacy of your life. Sir, some shit should not hit the forefront of the cameras. in the media, especially in boxing because you can be hot today, not tomorrow. You do some stupid shit. You do something dumb.

It can really cancel you. They can really get you the fuck up out of here. And they don't care how great of a boxer that you are. Yeah. But, you know, they got this thing. You know, I used to go to the Lux Theater in downtown Oakland and watched the karate movies. It was called The Drunken Master. Yeah.

You did? That was a style. That was a technique. It was a drunken master, you know, style. And then you got the Bill Clinton, them, and I didn't inhale, you know what I mean, with the weed, you know what I mean? So he just put it to his mouth and he didn't inhale. But we all thought that it was, you know what I mean? You dig, so it's all kind of little shit that goes on in this fight game.

It's the one game that everything goes. There's no stops. You know what I mean? The man called my hair nappy. You dig. I said he had a toupee. You dig. You know what I mean?

We go back. Yeah, you know, that's the first thing they hit them. You know, when they want to go, right? They want to Joan, you know what I mean? They want to start talking about, you know, the hair and all that other shit. So I got on them. That's a real good one for you, B.H. What do you think about, because I know you know Mike Tyson.

Yeah, absolutely. What do you think about is upcoming fight? You know what? I've been hearing a lot. Listen, no, no. Listen, I don't know. I don't know. I don't, I don't think, you know, I don't think that you can keep putting your hand in that cookie jar.

You know what I mean? And just keep going in there, you know, and coming up with these, you know, these, these shows and this stuff where I think that from what I'm hearing, that it might not be to Mike's advantage. whether that and being the rules, that being the rules or whatever. But by not being in Mike's advantage, it becomes an extreme disadvantage to him and his brand and his legacy. So, you know, Jake, Jake can get you out of there now. You know what I mean? Jake has that neutralizer.

He has one too. You know, of course, Mike is legendary. But I think that in terms of getting in a boxing ring, Mike has more to lose than Jake. They both got money. They both have brands that will continue to make money to the end of time.

But Mike's brand will be on the line when they fight. And, you know, he's a friend of mine, so I'm not going to tarnish, I'm not going to tarnish the fight or his opportunity to get some money because he'd be like, man, I'm getting his money,

you know, what are you talking about? I'm doing this. So I respect, I respect this hustle. I'm pulling for him, but I know the entrepreneur and Jake, you know, he's a friend to Devin's and you know he's always been there and been vocal for us I'm I think he's doing Devin is doing something with prime as well right now or whatever so um yeah it's uh it's two guys

and two brands that's that I know you know both so you're kind of like um Mike's my friend you know my son's cool with Jake I bet Jay you know Jake yeah I ain't gonna lie bro I think Mike still got something in that gas tank he do let's be honest we all know if that nigga click It's some shit's going to do. No, he do, but I'm going to tell you this. I'm going to tell you this. Jake does not mind. He will make, he will have a stipulation that Mike has to tie his hand behind his back or

he has to wear a one eye patch. Jake don't care. Jake will come out and do the shit and make it still an event where Mike, it has, you know, ability to do something, but he has to overcome something. Just y'all stay tuned. Mark my words. That fight is going to have something to it. it and you're going to still tune in because Jake is a master at what he's doing and

Mike is who Mike is a legend. Watched his workouts, Mike's workouts. Crazy. Oh, absolutely. He still got speed, still moving the right way, still pivoting the right way. Yeah. He's still got some spunk there. Man, Mike has always been a friend to not only me, but my whole family, you know, Zip,

out of Harlem, you know, Eric Von Zip introduced us and it's always been love. love. He's always been there for us. You know what I mean? And like I say, you know, if we had been vocal about Mike and in a sense of using Mike and Mike's platform, then that will be once again something that will be a, it will make people think that you got to meet up with Mike Tyson. No. You don't have to meet Mike Tyson, right? You have to listen to what things that Mike Tyson has said because he, everything he says to us, he says to the people. You know Mike. Mike is 100% transparent.

Everything that he says there, he says. Now, I'm saying is with Jay-Z, it doesn't take, for me, it reiterated the fact that it's okay to feel for your kids, feel for your daughter and be, you know what I mean, be worried and all the stuff. That's all part of it. You know what I mean? It made me understand that no matter how much money you have, that'll never change that.

So if it's all about money and taking away worries, then the ultimate worry will never go away. And that's the benefit of having kids. So it made me gravitate more towards my parenting and stuff like that. So, man, I've met some tremendous people in my life. You know what I'm saying? You know, and Mike, matter of fact, Mike's daughter and my son play tennis together. You know what I mean? Yeah, so Mike introduced me to Sean's first coach, coach James.

So, you know what I mean? Like it's a small world. It's a small world. And it just seemed like Mike, you ain't just your friends. It seems like it's family to you. You know what I'm saying? You really fuck with Mike. And I'm going to be honest, bro.

Roy Jones even said he said, that shit hurt. He said with that boy playing, he said when that boy was hitting me with these shit, he said that boy's shit still hurt. Man, Mike is, man, Mike is every bit. Listen, Mike is every bit of, hey, Sean, take this phone from me and put it, put it what's on for me? You can come grab it. Come grab it. Turn it off.

Bring it off. Bring it to a BF or whatever. No, man, Mike, you know, Mike, listen, Mike is my family, but Mike is intimidating just in person. You know what I'm saying? Just his presence is just intimidating. He's my man. We ain't never had no disagreements or nothing. But Mike got them big ass.

hands. He got that attitude. You dig. And he'd be looking at you. He'd be looking around. And I say, Mike, what's going on? Everything cool? And he's nothing, man. Everything is cool, man. He's groovy, baby, and all that. And I said, okay, Mike. I love Mike to death. For you, B.H. Let's talk about your own boxing skills. Do you ever challenge Devin to a father's suns sparring match to show them who's still boss and if you do who usually wins those man listen if dev can't handle me in 0.5 seconds then shit we're in trouble you did I'm a real player man you did you ain't got no business be touching on me and shit hitting on me putting your hands on me come on sharp we at the sharp tank man oh man yeah all right

You answered that with me. I thought it was going to be some bullshit for you. But he answered it very well, extremely well. I should say so myself. So what set your coaching apart from other trainers, like Devonthe's trainer, Calvin? I mean, they learned it in a garage, man. You know what I'm saying?

In Baltimore somewhere, you know what I mean? I learned it right there in the Mecca, Las Vegas. You know what I'm saying? Where everybody during that time they come through. I learned it from, you know, Floyd Mayweather, Senior, Al Jemayweather, Eddie Mustafa, Virgil Hunter, you know, Billy Giles, you know what I mean? I've learned it from the baddest guys in the game, you know, Freddie Roach, man, you know. The list goes on.

Man, no, listen, it's, it's deep. It's deep. You know, Roy Jones, you know, we got a chance to spend a lot of time with Roy Jones. So not only, you know, James Tony, not only does Devin experience it from a, lighter perspective, but I also was able to experience it from a coaching's perspective, because I knew what the assignment was. And when it comes time to, I'll have another coach just standing there, and I'll say, no, give him a second.

I know what he's doing. Because we can even have Roy Jones in the corner, which Roy is my man. Good dude. And I can tell him, I said, okay, well, Devin will do Roy Jones, but he's, but he's, he'll also do the Floyd Mayweather. Or he'll also do Eddie Mustafa, come back with the hook. He'll take a look like Roy Jones, you know, roll in, roll out like Roger.

You know what I mean? You know, you know. So you're saying Devin's style is a gumbo. It's a gumbo, it's a gumbo. A little bit of everything in that motherfucker. Man, in order to, no, it's the Haney style, actually. You know what I'm saying? It was everything that I knew to make as close to a perfect fighter.

because I would understand, okay, because we paid for it. You know what I mean? It wasn't like anybody was coming in and saying, okay, if I'm going to coach him, then, you know, I don't want any other coaches. They came and they said, they said, I heard that you're paying for your son to learn how to box, huh?

You want him to learn this shit what's going to cost you? I said, man, there ain't no problem. Whatever it is, you know what I'm saying? We're going to get it back when we get it back. Right, right. You know what I mean? Right, hell yeah.

And through that, you dig, because one thing that I wanted, I want also fathers and mothers and stuff to know, especially in boxing, is that my relationship wasn't with the fighters. You know, my relationship personally, I never tried to get cool with Floyd Mayweather Jr. I was like, you know what I mean? Any more cool than what we already were, right? I wanted to learn from the father.

I wanted to learn from Roger. I want to learn how to really put that thing down. You know what I mean? Virgil Hunter is the trainer long time and one-time trainer of Andre Ward. So, and to get to prevent and all those things that Ward does and he does special, I went to the person that taught him.

So I always felt like if you want to really get the game, then go get the game from the person that taught him. And when you talk about those other trainers, well, I mean, they know part of it and they got a good part of it where they were able to get it at. for me, you know, I traveled the world to learn this shit. Would you or have you trained any other kids? Yeah, absolutely.

We got two fighters that are going to be on the card. Amari Jones, 11 and O. And Shamar Canal, who's five and all. Amari Jones represent Oakland and, you know, the Bay Area in general. And then also Shamar Canal, he represents New York. Okay. That's going to be live right there, bro. I was just curious.

I'm like, man, yo, like you said, you do have a hainy style, like there's a way of fighting. You know, so I'm just curious if you was willing to pick up some other kids. Absolutely. Show them like what's going on. Because if you could do it for Devon, I'm sure there's other kids that were just as hungry, if you could see that fire in their eye, that hunger. You know what I'm going to be?

Absolutely. When we first started the game, they were like, it can only be one coach. It can, you know, they said because within making that gumbo, you always have that risk of too many chefs being in the kitchen. you know, is what they would say. I believe that coming from also a sports background and a music and stuff like that, that I could bring something in that would help on the offensive side and the defense as well. We work on our defense because we have a defensive specialist at that particular time,

and then we have an offensive specialist, right? Well, now we have coaches that have speed, and then we have a coach that has the body vest, and, you know, we have, like, different stations of coaches all to get out this one vision that I have of the perfect fighter. The perfect fighter. That's cold right there, man. That's a come out of a movie called The Perfect Fighter.

I'm with to put some money in that motherfucker. I'm with it. I'm with it, man. You know what I'm called? The Perfect Fighter. That mother doesn't go crazy. Do you, back to evening, I got to ask this one, do you think that Floyd would fight Devin in an exhibition for the right amount of money?

even though I know they've sparred, you know what I'm saying? Like you said, they've gotten in there. I mean, whatever happened. But do you think he would do it for, you know what I'm saying, get in there? He'd do everything else for some money. Why not? Why the fuck not, man? Gang, I'm not.

I'm not. So, you know what I'm saying? We already talked about the Ryan Garcia antics. I don't even want to talk about that shit no more. How do you, how do y'all normally celebrate Devin's victories? It used to be Dev liked it to go get pizza and stuff like that. You know what I'm saying? now.

He said, man, those were the days. Yeah, those were the days, you know what I mean? Those was the fucking days. Of course, you know, we try to do our best not to prepare for our victory. You know what I mean? We just want to, you know, stay focused, stay working, you know what I mean? And, inshallah, when the victory happens, of course, that's when the fireworks and all the magic, you know what I mean.

I was asking, yeah, yeah. Well, last time, last fight, I just think he took a private plane back and home from the bay and we had a chance to, you know, go to the room and talk and, you know what I'm saying? And just, you know, bond, hug, you know, and talk, you know what I mean? Those are real special moments after the victory. And then he goes back to living what, you know, the life that he lives, the rock star. Yeah, because he definitely lives a fucking rock star life. That boy got damn near a million dollars in his mouth.

Don't think I'm stupid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This shit goes crazy. I don't hold you. Yeah. What's, uh, what's going to be your reaction when Devin, wins that big fight against Ryan Garcia because he will be winning that fight.

Insha Allah, I will love it. Insha Allah will love it, right? And only can hope that, you know what I mean? He will give all praises due to Allah when that happens and he's victorious. And of course, after that, I want to come back to the Sharp Tank. You dig.

I love that. You know what I mean? And kick it and introduce our next opponent, our next opposition, inshallah. I ain't going to lie, B.H. I love having conversations with you. The time is rolls, and you got a lot of game, man, you know, and you're very knowledgeable in the boxing game.

You know what you're saying? Like, you got a lot of game to give. Is there anything you want to tell the viewers? You want to tell D.H.P. fans. No, absolutely. No, just thank you. No, no. Thank you for the platform.

Shout out to the production team. You know, Corey, for making the introduction and everything. You know, I knew that when, you know, when my name was sent over to you guys, that the production team did a great job and put me right here with a real player at the Sharp Tank. You did what I'm saying? So actually, thank you for having me, King.

I appreciate you. Yeah, absolutely, King. They're messing with us, man, and just sitting down, chopping it up, and being open about a lot of that shit, I'm glad I got a couple questions about you and never been asked. He said, that shit's wild. Absolutely, King.

Absolutely, King. Hey, you did your research and I appreciate the opportunity. Man, I appreciate you, man. Hey, the sharp tank, no jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. Hey, Donnie, man, uppercut, left, right, how the fuck we do it? But shoot us out to motherfucket gym.