No Jumper - Billy Ado & Seqo Billy on 6ix9ine and the REAL Origins of Treway

Episode Date: May 21, 2020

Billy Ado rebuttals to 6ix9ine's fresh out IG live, to explain absolutely everything about his side of the story, being 6ix9ine right hand man, protecting him from the wrong kind of people until they eventually grew apart right before everything went down. "Trippie tried to warn us about 6ix9ine and we ignored all the signs" - Billy Ado ----- FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 FOLLOW OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/529mn7of2HBKdLfrAMUzcK?si=rWVBWCuWSXeh0TFYb2P-dQ CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/No-Jumper-198283650194402/ http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 and adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No jumper, coolest podcast on the world, and today you can wear them if you want. We got the one and only Billy Otto. How you feeling, bro? I'm good, man. Bless making it. Surviving. You know, I survived a lot, so I'm surviving. That's a fact, man.

Yeah, you're like an integral part of the story that we've seen played out over the last couple of years, but you've been kind of quiet. Like, you never really, like, laid it all out there for everybody to understand, right? Never did. And I'm glad I'm here. You're the first person I'm going to just get it all out today and just talk about everything that I know they want to hear about and you know what I'm saying?

Questions that's been asked that never been answered. Facts. You want to introduce us to your Cody here? Everybody know who it says? The boy, Saco Billy, man. Sake-old Billy. You guys are both, like, huge parts of the story.

I was playing, I thought it was just interviewing you. I didn't realize y'all were coming together, but this is, we're going to fill in extra blanks right here. Cool. All right. So I guess we'll start with you, and we'll just sort of weave in and out here, but talk to me about how you grew up,

up at least, I guess. Just talk about a little bit of your upbringing and stuff and how you eventually became affiliated with what you became affiliated with that kind of leads us into the story. So basically, I'm from Brooklyn. Bedford-Sivison part of Brooklyn. I mean, I grew up in different parts of Brooklyn, too, but I'm from Trinidad and my family. We're from Trinidad. I don't even really have that much family in America. Most of my family is in Trinidad, but my dad got deported in, like, 92, 93 for selling drugs. He got locked up. He did a couple years. And soon if he got out, they sent him back to Trinidad. So it was just my mom's and my brother and my sister and my one art and shit and we just held it down in Brooklyn, you know what I'm saying?

Okay. And so what was your upbringing like, though, in terms of like you were, I mean, you're of the age where, like, did you always know about gangs and shit when you were a young guy in Brooklyn, or did that just sort of come around at a certain point? I knew about, like, HUD gangs and Hood streets, and you know about the big Crip and L.A. thing that was going on, but it was mostly going on on this side, on this coast. You know what I mean? We out here in L.A., this is where it originated, so it was more.

And we had gangs, though, like Decepticons and stuff and different little big crews in New York that kind of really merged into Crips and Bloods. But then, yeah, it's like that process sort of took place where it's like over time, it's like you could have crews and stuff, but then once they get exposed to the idea of bigger organizations, it's kind of like everybody eventually wants to gravitate towards that, right? That's a fact.

Definitely a fact. So how did you get exposed to the blood thing in the first place? Growing up, when I started growing up, As in the 90s, the early 90s, gangs hit New York really hard. Got really big, like, what, I'm not trade. So it started in 1993, you know what I'm saying, a long time ago, which was one of the first originally, you know what I mean, New York blood sets.

And we held it down on a different level. The media portrays so much. But to me, I'm not really, I'm not a gang member. I don't consider myself like a gang member hanging in the streets doing dumb shit. And I consider myself like a revolutionist in an organization, you know what I'm saying? Because all these, if you look, all of these gangs and stuff, whether you crib, G.D., blood, whatever you is, all of these stuff derived from the Black Panther Party movement, you know what I'm saying? And they have rules and stuff. And nowhere does it says beef the Crips or killed the Crips or Crips killed the blood, geez, nowhere.

None of the stuff we believe in. That's why I want people to get. Okay, so your initial introduction wasn't the same as what a lot of kids who get into the gaming thing now think that they're getting to become part of, right? Exactly. I grew up in, don't get me wrong. I grew up in the streets of Brooklyn, fighting in school, while now just seeing, like, different. stuff you know i mean i'm from like brooklyn the hood of brooklyn and it's rough it's hard growing up there in the projects it's not like most places and you got houses and stuff all i grew up

around was projects and buildings and slums and stuff in the street and you know i mean my mom's working two jobs she or she never home so i'm never home i'm always outside you feel me right okay okay we met in the hood okay best of stuyves man talk about yeah sick old billy um yeah we met prior around the host, you know what I'm saying, signage, but that was, that was early 2017. We both just got out of jail. Yeah, I did a lot of time in prison. I did over 10 years in prison.

What years are we talking about? I'm talking about, 04 until like 2015, 16, no 16. And what did you get locked up for? You stabbed a security guard at one point, right? Nah, that was some totally different shit we could get to. That happened later. I didn't stab nobody, though. Oh, okay.

I got locked up for arm robbery, kidnapping, home invasion. some shit. I could talk about it because I did the time is over with you know what I mean so right I went to prison for that. On robbery who'd you rob? It was a dude with the situation some drugs he owed me money some crazy shit we end up just going over there like fuck it was gonna pull up on the do it and it wasn't supposed to be no robbery it's just something that transgressed on the situation being young dumb I felt like I was doing the right thing at that time right yeah totally so was there uh what about the kidnapping situation what was that? I didn't even really kidnap him.

I just tied him up and took him to the back row. It was like, yo, with the rest of the shit? I didn't even really kidnap him, bro. Okay, but then what? They were added on you and they were able to prove that you did tie them up? Yeah. I went to trial. I blew a trial.

How do you prove that somebody got tied up? Oh, you just bailed out on the trial, so it wasn't even like you had a chance? No, no, no. I went to trial. I went to a five-day trial and lost, and I blew that shit. Oh, shit. They found me guilty. They didn't even really have shit.

It was weak. It was weak shit, man. You get a little closer to the mic. It was really, really weak shit. If I didn't have the, if I had the money like I have now back then, I probably would have beat the shit. But you know, being young, black, being railroaded, I mean, you know, just being, right, that's what it is.

So you get out of jail and are you just sort of back into the same shit? I get out of jail. Soon if I get out of jail, I'm hit hard. Back with the bros, I'm back in Bedford-Suyvesant, the six-nine shit. Everything came at one time. That gummo video, when we shot that gummo video on the block, that's his crib. That's his family's crib.

Right. They own that crib right where we did that video at right there. everything hit around the same time. So it came from, like, prison to this crazy-ass life. Like, oh, shit, I just got out from doing all this time, and shit is lit. Right, because you're, you're, like, in jail thinking, like, oh, man, like, I'm trying to stay away from, like, some of the parts of the lifestyle. Like, you know that you're probably still going to be part of your hood no matter what, but you are thinking, like, I'm going to take a step back and not necessarily be involved. You know how it be?

You'd be like, yo, I'm not to get out, son. It's about to be lit. I'm chilling. I'm not with that bullshit. I just did all this time. Ain't a way. I'm letting nobody trick me back in this kind of situation. but then you get out and you ain't got no bunch of money you ain't got nobody giving you a house car

when you get out you're like fuck you force back to your hood your people you know what I'm saying that's how you're going to eat that's how you're going to chill that's how you're going to be yourself you know what I mean definitely okay so talk to me about your involvement though like in terms of how you became blood as well oh yeah I mean shit I was I was like being born blood man you know what I'm saying damn there almost because my whole family is I'm saying and when you grow up and around that as a kid you just conformed to that shit so that's what you are you you follow suit you following the steps okay so let's talk about when the six nine shit started to get introduced to you and how you felt about because you this is like

mad early because i was watching uh the the snow billy video where he was sort of explaining snow billy is not a part of us he is not one our homies he was never dear for anything with us he if you look back and do your homework you only see one video and one thing with him in there you never seen him at no fights no l a no shows nothing no video You ever seen him in a damn video? I don't know. So you're saying that he's sort of over exaggerating with his involvement? He's over exaggerating everything.

You can see the proof is in the videos. I'm gonna show you match it on my phone. But is he the one who brought six nine two shots to the nitrates? Negative. Negative. Okay. This is the man that actually initially brought him to us. You feel me?

Because before that, I, so I'm in the hood. I'm chilling and right. Everything cool. And you know, he does music, you know what I'm saying? He got that song, Billy that got millions of views. He got different mad stuff. So, you know what I mean? He's been doing music.

Um, His manager is Chris, which is our homeboy, which was 6-9's original manager. Right. Real original manager. We got videos, we got everything to show you. And Chris, he's really cool with Solo. That's our other man. You know who Solo is, right?

That's XX, that's our PR to my friend X, that's his manager. Right. And they were really cool. So our RP to the homie, definitely, like you, X. Day was really cool, and Saco is also Chris's artist. Chris got cool with 6'9, because you got to think about it. Six-9, people could say what they went about 6-9. and all the stuff, and we're going to get to it, but he's actually from the hood.

He's actually from Brooklyn. We're from Best Style. He's right there in Bushwick and from the slums, too, you know what I'm saying? But when he previously used to act, like, he sort of, like, grew up around the gang shit. Like, he's from, like, a gang neighborhood, but he was always like a weird dude, right? But it was never no gangs on his side. The way he grew up in business is more of Spanish people and stuff. You know what I mean?

There's no really gangful, but around it and stuff like that, yeah, it's a gang father. But he never grew up. He don't have no friends that was blood or he never grew up in a struggle or nothing like that. Right. Okay. And so how is it? Okay, so you're introduced to him by basically, you have the same manager, Chris,

who I remember Chris from back in the day, and he was trying to manage you and 6-9, and then that basically led him. Not that CEO, Chris, dude, who was in the fair show. I don't even know who he is. I'm talking about real Chris. Right. Okay, and so that, but he introduced 6-9 to y'all

because 6-9 wanted to get down with the blood thing, right? Was that already like communicating? Let me say this. Before, bro, tell that. He introduced him on the music level with it, all the mutin's right he did not want to get down with the blood set he was looking at it that we realize now and realize now how everything happened he was just he was looking at an opportunity you know i'm saying more than you know really how could he really have love for blood in this

organization and stuff he never grew up in and he don't know i'm saying if you want to get technical it's it's like more of like a black-based gang you know but so how did you guys react to when he started coming around though like what were the initial impressions i mean shit when i mean the first in the i'm saying like when we're supposed to meet i didn't really be really I didn't want to link. You know what I'm saying? Dude, my manager Chris was like, fuck it. You gotta do this business, his music.

I'm like, fuck it, let's link. He had that hair. We went to the studio, he showed us some videos. It was never no gang shit. He said, yo, I need some help with my music. What's up? I said, all, you got you. I'm saying?

I look past the hair and all that, and we just worked with him. No gang shit, no none of that. But was that, how did that feel at the time? Because it's like, for guys who are really from the hood and have really been associated with the street shit for a long time, It's like there's got to be a lot of red flags that go up in your head. Like, this dude is weird.

I don't necessarily want to be around this guy. Okay, listen, for me, coming from prison. Especially coming from prison. Straight on. Your weirdo, weirdo radar is super on point. It's super on. I'm trying to thing, you know what I mean? But automatically, you know what I'm thinking is he gay?

Why is his hair mirror? I know he's from up the street and there's, you know, the dude they call Danny, but I don't know him like that. We never hung out. We never chill. Why is his hair looking like that? How's, you know what's going on? You know, but you're grouping up, you're talking to the guys.

They're like, yo, chill. Got an idea. He's cool. He's not gay. None of that shit like that. He representing peace of freedom or something, which he explained to us are like that and something. Whatever his little reasons was. And he's representing bringing everybody to get on some crazy ass whatever shit he was on. That's what he was supposedly thing. And so I'm like, cool. He's like, look at it. They show him his Instagram. I don't even know what Instagram is at this time. I don't have Instagram. I don't have Facebook. I have no social media. I'm just really learning how to use like touchscreen phones and stuff like that. I never had that shit. Right. So they look and they're like, listen, he can, he got 100,000 views. He got mad followers on this Instagram stuff. People are liking this shit. His music hot. He's a thing. It's a new error auto you're tripping. So I'm like, you know, cool. Fuck, let's try it out see what this is go. And at that time, it's, I'm protecting him with my life. I'm holding down with everything like I'm like I would hold any brother down. Don't, I don't want people to think, oh, I was doing this for six, nine or the mind. I would have did this for any of a brother who would have blew up. They're saying this what it is. And you know, we're trying to stand up for what we believe in. And this is a good part of it.

fuck it, let's try it. And looking back at that exact moment where they were trying to explain to you why he was somebody they wanted to be down with, but it was basically because of the numbers, because of the popularity, because of the views, do you look back on that and, like, realize that that was, like, the critical

mistake is that... Big mistake. Yeah, it's like bringing somebody around. Just really being honest, we all made mistakes and, you know, just being gritty and looking at the type of money we could get and, you know, look at the shit and stuff. We all, dudes from Brooklyn, from the hood from the street. Now, who? I mean, like, who would it? Although we made some mistakes, cool.

True indeed, and a lot of brothers took some falls and all of that. We own human beings. We made some mistakes. We tried to fix it in the process, but the shit happened. You know what I'm saying? Definitely you definitely, definitely was, definitely was, bro. So, okay, then when does he actually start to, like, join the gang more specifically? Before we get there, he had a plan.

Okay. He had beef with Trippy Red already. Trippy Red was on the Internet, called him gay. at this time, and this stuff is getting hundreds of thousands of views, which I know nothing about. I have no social media or nothing. I don't know what's going on. He's beefing with Trippy Red.

Which Trippy Red is really, me and him, we're cool now. You know what I'm saying? He was a really big problem with them, and he was a real young kid, not saying he was no gangster, none. He was from Ohio, but he was really blood, and he was a real dude and stuff, and he was beefing. So here comes 6'9. You got to think about it.

Oh, shit, I'm beefing with Trippie Red. He calling me gay over the Internet. He embarrassed me. He got more clout than me at this time. The fucking bloods. Saco Billy, he's fucking blood. The blood's in his mind. He's thinking shit.

He already used to hang with crypts, which I'm seeing this on the internet, and we ignoring the facts and mad stuff we're seeing. You know what I'm saying? Right or right, bro? I mean, yeah, it's, it wasn't so much niggas ignoring it, no I'm saying? It's about that we had a, we had a plan.

I'm saying, whatever happened, we don't know the history. We don't know who foul who. So it's like, we're here now, so we're going to make what we're going to make out of this. But so his attitude was like, I'm going to get down with these bloods because they're going to basically protect my ass when I have problems with other bloods?

I wouldn't say other bloods in his mind to me now looking back at it now he was like okay I'm I'm gonna choose this crew this the permanent crew that I'm gonna choose I ran through mad crews I was trying to get down with mad people these people are cool some of them are weird like me they're not really here to help me yeah but we didn't see that shit until everybody saw that shit we saw that same time it's the same time at the internet at the internet was looking at it oh Danny is their friend from their hood he bent blood he grew up with them guys they hold and it wasn't like that you know I'm saying it's kind of easy to like obscure the fact that he didn't link up until much, much later on.

And at the same time, like, why would we, why would we put that out? We grow, we're the end of that we live. We hold them down. That's all y'all need to know, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, because you're just assuming, like, as a person that this guy's going to owe you something, he's not going to be disloyal. He's not going to be disloyal. We brought him this far.

We're fighting their shows. We're going with him. We're on the internet. We're back on him. He's going to hold us down. We're good. This is how we're looking at it. We're good now, you know what I'm saying?

So the mental image that always kills me is the idea of him buying like 50 red bandanas and handing him out on the block to shoot the gummo videos. That never happened. That's not accurate. Okay. That's not accurate. That's not accurate. Every single dude, you see in a gummo video was real bloods, was real dudes from our neighborhood. And you could go on, you could go on this on this on this on this on this on this on this rap page. The picture's still here, bro. All the way down. The picture's still here. We took these picture. I'm going to show you right now. because and I heard that on the internet like damn he passed out flags and brought why the fuck would he have to pass out flags to us we're real bloods as a hell why the fuck would he have to pass off he don't need we got our own damn flag right some of the flags new some was all this

picture the thing the thing I thought when I heard that though was just that like you know I lived in Brooklyn for a long-ass time and I ain't never seen like 50 people on the block wearing red red red we don't all hang out on the it ain't like back in the days because in new york in New York in New York in New York in any random day there's a big problem They pulled up. You didn't see the video? Yeah, I know. They tried to shut us. These, my bros.

That's me right there. I know every single dude in this picture. Every single dude in this picture, I know them. Okay. But so how did that conversation actually go about? Because that was the first time that we really seen him, like, depicting himself as like a real gangbanger. And at that time, he wasn't blood.

He wasn't a part of nothing. He was just doing this with us and he just hold the red flag up. He had a plan too. You see, he had the Mexican suit on the green suit, which I don't know. I thought he was just wrapping his little. He had a pain to try to grab the Mexican culture and the Spanish. If he could grab that, he felt in his mind, too, he'll be super lit.

And he had a plan. I didn't know it until now. I'm seeing it like, oh, my God, this guy. Okay. So were there alarm bells going off in your head at that time? Or were you suspicious of his motives? No, not so much? At the time, he just had on a regular dude.

They was out here. He said he was good. He had on his green stuff. They said he's Mexican and Puerto Rican. So I'm like, okay, he's just trapping his little shit. We got the bros out there. We made the video lit. You know what I'm saying?

You got Trived Drew over there shooting it with his camera. the rest of what was there. Shadi, we all was out there. Everything was good at this time. We all were still cool. We made it think about it. Think about it. Let's say you had 6-9, right? The same gummo video on his block with three, four his Spanish friends. Do you think he would have did what it did? It would have been very different.

It would have been very different. It wouldn't have worked out. Y'all need to look at that. Let's say 6-9 did that gummo video. Pop the niggins like a Willie with three-four Spanish kids jumping around. There's no way it would have got this type of views. Oldham had you seen his Spanish kid. He's jumping around. He got mad bloods with him.

They're in Brooklyn. The police trying to shut him down. all this weed on the car, what the fuck is going on here? Right, because I think that the Spanish kids probably would have accepted him at that point, but there's a way that the hood started to proceed. He would have laughed at him. They were the guy, what the fuck is this dude? We ain't watching this shit.

They wouldn't have took him like that. It's kind of hard to not take him like that and say something to the bottom. When you got these guys who most of us know from Brooklyn, like, damn, some of these dudes been in prison, some of these dudes really shoot us. Right. So what about his relationship with Shadi, though? Because that seemed like that became the really strong relationship pretty early on, huh? Shadi had a plan, too, which I didn't know at that time.

Yeah, it was some real cockerel shit going on, you know what I'm saying? Uh-huh. But niggas trying to split up the gang, you know what I'm saying? So both the niggas is manipulative. Both of the motherfuckers manipulative. So they were splitting everybody up, you know what I'm saying, going to different route. He was backing all the bullshit all to suck my dicks. That's what it really was.

He was just backing all to suck my dicks. Right. So he was the one who was making six not feel like he could just beef with everybody. And you got, yeah, you got to think about it. I'm backing him. for the strength of backing him for what's going on. Not his dumb shit. I'd be telling him when used to post.

I'm like, bro, why are you posting? I shouldn't have. I shouldn't make sense. His manager Chris, like, yo, don't post that. You're tripping. He like, man, I don't want to do. I want to post what I want to post.

He always had a problem. And you got shot in the other. And man, post what you're going to post? We're going back you, fuck them. Tell whoever to suck your dick. Da-da-da-da-da-da. We're just backing him. A lot of people looked at it.

A lot of people say we were saying we were saying we were saying, what the fuck problem I got with LA. I didn't fucking know nobody in LA. The time we went to L.A. I had to fight at the L.A. and put that the first time I ever been here in my life is beautiful. Trees. Every just the way is just beautiful place.

What the fuck? But I'm just backing him for what people are saying. They're saying, fuck y'all in them rainbow, dude. You never can't go back to one video where we came and said anything about L.A. people for no reason. Never, bro. Yeah, because I remember where as soon as we started talking about YG, like, I'm looking at my phone. Like, holy fuck. Like, I've been living out here for a long-ass time.

I ain't never seen anybody come out YG like that. It feels like a death sentence. And I mean, realistically, like, it probably would have been if he didn't start. Like, if they probably would have caught up with us or something, you know, stuff could have went a whole lot of different ways. They could have went a whole lot of different ways. Right. So, yeah, like that stuff, though, like, do you feel like Shottie didn't care if somebody shot him? He didn't care if nothing happened at this time.

He was such a slime ball. You got to think about it. Did he come to L.A.? Shotty. Did he come to the, um, let me see all the fights of Sutton to jump off. You had the L.A.X. Then again, let me tell you. about the LAX before we get there.

Yeah, okay. The LAX fight. That was me, y'all, Billy Otto. I was one that popped it off at the LAX air fight. You do that first punch? Huh? Yeah, that was hard. That was me and Harve.

That was Harve that's locked up right now. Free Harve, man. Free Harve, we're going to get to it. And we just popped it off. I had the white jacket with the black and he was kind of swinging over my head. It ended up really quick. Danny, let me tell you, I swear to God on my dead brother or anything I love. Do you know what Danny said earlier that day?

What? He said, yo, bro, we in L.A., we're about to leave. Damn, nothing to happen. You think we should stage something or do some little crazy shit to, you know, TMZ out there. They ain't an airport, bro. The TMZ cameras, I swear to God. And we like, hell no, bro. What the fuck is you talking about?

Whatever happens? We out. Nothing happened. God bless us. Nothing happened to LA. Whatever we're out of here, bro. You're bugging out. What fuck is you talking about?

Then that fight really happened. And the fight that happened with them dudes. They wasn't even from LA. It was just some dudes. We was outside. I don't know what stuff. I came outside and then the brothers was outside. And they were standing in some girls was outside.

Dudes started acting really tough. They end up being from Texas. They wasn't even from LA. And, you know, they was talking to our manager. He's Chris like, yo, come on, y'all tripping. Let's go. Fuck this shit. We got a flight to Texas in like 15 minutes.

So basically that fight did not need to happen. It wasn't really. We just missed a flight. We just missed our flight for this bullshit. You know what I'm saying? We got a flight to Houston, Texas at this time to go link up with Jimmy Boy. And this shit pop off. So we like, fuck.

But we can't just keep letting dudes talk to us like that. I'm from Brooklyn. I'm not about, I don't care where we. I'm not about to just let you do, if I die here, whatever happens here, it just happens. I cannot, I always got to stand up for myself as a man and things I believe and you're not going to stand here and talk to me and my friends like this, bro. You're tripping. So, yeah, that was a pretty wild moment, but were things still cool after that, after that LA's fight?

Things was great. It was good. We end up linking them. We end up linking the things that we fought with, shook with and all that. But as far as with us, things are good. We laughed it off like there. So we went to all that shit in LA with all these crazy-ass dudes. We never ranged it on who really killed people in God until a fight with these fucking dudes.

Fucking Texas. But so then you went to Houston and what happened? Houston. Nothing really happened in Houston at that time. At that time we went to Houston, we linked up with Jimmy Boy, we left. I fly to Atlanta. You got to remember, we shot the gumbo video, right? It's lit. In a week, it's a million views. I couldn't believe it. I'm coming straight out of prison. There's a fucking million views. I'm like a million views. I'm like a million views. I'm like, oh, my fucking God. People calling us for shows telling us to fly hair, boom. It's so lit, we shoot the Kootie video. We invite a bunch of bros out there. We invited some

cribs dudes out there, the free Bobby Shmurter thing. You remember the kudishap was lit. We was in the train session. That was me up there holding on the rail. Right after that, we shot the Kiki video. Kiki video shoot with A-Buggy and Fetty Wop, it goes crazy. And that was a wild time because then you started thinking like, damn, like actual artists in New York are starting to fuck with them. They're fucking with us. They're fucking with us. We're doing shows with these dudes.

We're out here with A. Buggy, this shit is fucking crazy. You know what I'm saying? It's crazy. And the dude Fetti Luciano had got out the same week and we invited him to the Kiki video shoot. That's Routy Rubble, little brother. You know, they was locked out. He was the first to get out from the whole GS-9 thing. first one to actually be released after three years we invited him out there um a but we shot it in

high bridge you know i'm saying we i shot all our prior videos in brook but we was like fuck it we're gonna shot it um we're gonna shoot in high bridge they want to come out here the guy fuck it we're out there right loaded up a bus went out there let me ask you this did you think the shoddy was shady before any of this shit even happened we all know shoddy of course that's crazy ass shoddy who'd be running off of people stuff and doing crazy stuff in the hood so he was a jack boy he was he was like robbing people for drugs and shit basically he was robbing people's drugs he was just wild stupid shoddy that always you know I mean just just just low no no he was oh it's just shy he was just a low dude and you know he'll he do whatever you know you see him in the media you see how he'd get down

right I was just shoddy that was his thing so I don't know how damn it's all right back to um um we're getting into fights uh-huh mad crazy stuff going now we go to the yams day console let me say something about that shout out to the yams day consa rp a sab yams shout out to um a sap rocky shout out to asap ferg asab bari we in there we in there You remember that day? It's crazy. There was some shit about, what, the show got shut down? Because somebody was trying to fight him or something?

What exactly happened? This is how everything happened. We're in there. We're chilling. Everything's good. Lit. Lil Yadi invited us out at this time. Okay.

Yeah, because they were blowing down. They had a long moment. You see Little Yadi performing. That's us on stage. That's me on stage. It's lit in this motherfucker. Right. Danny right there with the rest of the bro.

You see Shadi. Nuk, everybody's there. Our whole crew here. We're in there like 25, 30 deep, right? Yeah. We're on stairs, you see the Lodi and everything's good at this time. You got a sender to this. We'll put it on the screen because this is great footage right here.

Cool. This is the day to fight happened. Okay, Shadi goes somewhere and he comes back, right? When he comes back, he's coming up the stairs. And this is exactly how he went down. And the artist's little thing where you come up the stairs to go on the stage. We're at right there. A-Sat barring them is coming up the stairs.

He's rushing through bumping dudes like, you know what I mean? I'm with my crew. I got a da-da. They're like, yo, holy fuck up, you're bugging out. Like, I didn't know that at that time. It's the fucking Aesab Yams reunion is their fucking shit. Right. They're coming up to stairs.

Watch out, bro. You know, I'm tripping. That's just out of respect. Yeah. It's their fucking event. And I'm saying, but I don't know it at this time. Boom. Aesat Bari punches Shadi in the face rocks.

Boom! Shadi fall down the stairs. He gets a little touch. He put Shottie security grabbing. That's what me and my man, gun seen it. We runs down there. We pops it off.

We're fighting with dumb news. That's when our whole crew seen it. and it's all over the internet and you never thought you were gonna be fighting with ASAP up until this moment fuck no we had the fucking ASAP yeah I'm happy to be at this motherfucker I never been to no shit like this

right and I couldn't believe it and this shit happened man of Derek go again me holding my crew now not trying to be disrespectful to nobody else and nothing else just riding for the team right did that beef get swashed soon after because nothing really happened with all that right

it wasn't no beef it had nothing to do with them it was just some um that little situation man ain't no beef with them dudes man yeah because that was a wild moment because everybody the way it got twisted up online right then was like 6-9 started a big fight at yams day it was disrespectfully yams fuck him he didn't do nothing he didn't touch nobody at the lax fight he didn't touch nobody you ever seen six nine fighting somebody like come on bro he jumped around at lax a little

bit he knew TMZ remember he knew TMZ was right there because they had just seen us and said something like a couple seconds before so he knew they was out there he couldn't just not do nothing anytime you're at lax TMZ is not too far away not too far away they're lurking I think they got somebody who lives there or something I've talked to the dude whose whose job it is to just walk back and forth and just look for celebrities all day and he was just uploading footage and I think I borrowed a cigarette. Just running up when you see anybody. He did, you got to...

Okay, so that situation went down. What about the Barclay situation? Were you around for that? Because this was after you split off? Let me tell you something. A lot of people asked, damn, how didn't you get indicted? That's your whole crew, the trade with how didn't you get locked up for the guys? You got to think about it. Let's think about it. Let's use common sense. This is what they got indicted for. The Barclay Center shooting?

The Chief Keefe, the threatening Chief Kee's, the robbery in the hotel with the dude and all that. It's all over the media. And you weren't that for any of that shit. I wasn't there for none of that shit. Remember, we had got into the little beef and shit, like maybe going up to a year, we rocked, and then all this shit start happening.

So how the fuck could I get caught up in this indictment? On Seiko or Ms. Trayway. Shout out to Chanel. Shout out to Miss Trayway. It's a lot of us that never got locked up. Nobody really got locked up from Trayway, but 6, 9 and Shottie, the Crip dude and a bunch of other dudes.

They just, like, who the fuck got locked down from the original crew? It was mad of us, none of us. Right. So when did you actually decide that you'd seen enough and then you wanted to bail out on the situation. What else had to happen before you did? This is how we kind of fell out.

Before this, you got to think, I never had no problems with Danny. He was my friend. I actually had an apartment in Bushwick, too. So I lived literally right up the block from his, right up the block from where he lived at. So he used to come over my house a lot. We used to chill a lot.

We got a lot closer really than everybody else, you know what I'm saying? Because if you see a lot, you used to see me and him, the bros and shit together, but I'm with him a lot. I was one of the first, let me tell you what happened.

This is the story of how I went to L.A. You remember they, they canceled the show they canceled the shows in LA at first. We had two shows. It was, what the fuck was going on that weekend? All-Star Weekend was going on that year. All-Star weekend was in L.A. And we had a bunch of shows book all over the end that I'm late.

I'm like, shit, we're about to be on. Oh shit, we let. We go to L.A. One show get canceled. Another show get canceled. The promoters, they're getting scared. It's going to be too much. That's when we outside and Roe had just came home. So they decided to make that video.

You know, sure, you remember that shit. We still come to L.A. I had my head diarrhea at the time. Right. nobody out there. You've seen how much people was out there? Yeah. Can we go to that video?

Bro, let me tell you how much these people didn't give a fucking. I didn't see how Danny didn't realize it. None of the motherfuckers came to L.A. Not one of the motherfucker. Didn't come to L.A. And normally everybody wants to go on a trip with the pop and rapper, right? With this pop, they were scared, bro. Right.

They were scared. So at this point, you're starting to feel like you're the only one who's really deeply invested in this? So you're starting to realize that nobody else really gives a shit? I'm starting to realize it. Like, what the fuck is going on here? Like, Shottie didn't go. How to fuck such a shit happening?

We make such a big video, and you don't show up to L.A. You don't come. He called me, he caught me, um, he caught me, this is how I went to L.A. He called me seven in the morning. He liked your order, what you doing, bro?

I'm like, bro, I'm asleep. What's up? It's man early. He's like, yo, I ain't go lie. We got a flight to Arizona. They're catching, like, two out. so we got to hurry up and get to JFK, you know what? He was like, yeah, right after that, we're going to L.A.

Remember we told everybody was going to L.A. We got to go up to L.A. We got to least show our face. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, oh, man, fuck it. I jump out my bed. I grab a suitcase, bro. I throw some shit in the suitcase.

I brush my teeth and I get out the door. That's how down I was, you know what I was. That's the rapper life style right there. If you want to be down on the rapper, you're going to be willing to get up on 10 minutes notice, yeah. Exactly. So, okay. That, so.

So then you go to L.A. I didn't go to LA. We went to Arizona first. That was the beginning of the tour. We went to Arizona, the Day 69 tour. That was the first one. It started in Arizona. And most of the stuff, just the fucking,

the All-Star weekend shit was also on the tour but got canceled. I'm saying, that was a part of the tour. So we was like, fuck it, we're still going to do the tour and through these states. And we're still going to pass through LA, you know what I mean? And fucking they end up in Houston.

We still did the shows in Houston and all that. And we kept going, you know what I'm saying? But we were like, fuck it. Let's just stop in LA still. You know what I'm saying? We're thinking in our mind, we think it can't be this serious we don't know that dudes is really just mad they're not gonna kill us

but they're gonna shoot us in la because that me like that's how we think if anything go down of course we're gonna ride but we're not out here for that these dudes really this mad in my mind I'm like they can't be this mad we don't even know these dudes from the canad paint they just see the colorful hair dude and these dudes backing him and they like them y'all want to kill us this I'm thinking for what the fuck what the fuck is the beef about I know I know people who basically have told me that like other people that they know were like on the prow like cruely looking for him to be caught so I mean it was definitely going down there's a lot of people in LA who don't really got much going for them besides their pride

and their gang you know so at the end of the day like they're more than willing to do yeah that's everywhere that's everywhere but it wasn't no disrespect to none of these dudes in LA or all their gang or their pride nobody disrespected no gang you know what I'm saying at all never no disrespect why the fuck we would disrespect a whole gang how we're gonna disrespect a whole game come back to New York we can't disrespect to Chris we're blood we did we're over like you know like doing no dumb shit like that it was these dudes was just taking it the wrong way for for what

reason i didn't get but that happened or whatever we left we get to houston we do the show we fly back everything good we finally get back to new york for all that shit the whole new york going crazy we back l a all this crazy shit didn't happen we goes out that night i'd say that same night i told shoddy i'm like yo we just got back nobody even went with us why y'all trying to force this nigger to go out like niggas trying to sleep i'm tired too he's like nah you just got back we got to drink he doesn't smoke he doesn't do none of that from the day i met him you know i'm saying never drunk never smoked that day in his life so they forcing him to drink he falls out boom face first boom i had to grab and pick him up take him to the car nobody never be looking for him and go to

i go to his house i check on his mom he lived like he'd be getting on the internet and saying oh them dirty blood niggas and all them shit bro he was a dirty bum dude the house he lived in with his mom the door was broken in he lived in bum ass buttrick so don't get on the internet and say these dirty brum niggas when you grew up just like us us a dirty bumming. We sit there and we helped you and made you rise to your career. You know what I'm saying? Have some sort of respect. You feel me? He's bugging up. Yeah, that was the mind-blowing thing is when you first heard

him in that interview saying like, oh, the dirty bloods. And it's like, even for me as an observer, it's like you were dying to be associated with these dudes. You were dirty too. You didn't have no sauce. You didn't have no money. You didn't have nothing. He was from right there. Then the main thing that got me thing, he gets on the internet.

He goes on the breakfast club, I think, and the man says, I started Trayway. I was one of the real dudes. I started all this shit. which is a fucking lie. Ain't shoddy. None of that, bro. You see this book, bro? And this came out in, what, 93?

This came out in 2013. 13. The big bro wrote this that died. You know what I'm saying? Garland Tyree, S.I. Shout out to the big bro. RIP, big bro. We love you.

We're still trying to live on your legacy. If you read this book, it says nothing about the stuff that people was trained. The Trayway, 2013. We didn't know him in 2013. You can look at that for yourself. Put it in the camera. You can get these books on Amazon and everything.

So, no, everybody know we're not lying. We're telling the truth. How the fuck is there a book? called the trayway. How old was he in 2013? He was really fucking young or something, right? He was like, how old he was probably like 12. But at that time, don't you feel like that was basically just him trying to distance himself from the group? Yeah, but it was the things he was saying it was lies. You know what I'm saying? We don't have the opportunity to go on the breakfast club and say what you're saying and straighten this all up. Lies for games. Most of the stuff

he did was lies and bullshit and it was a bunch of bullshit. And just knowing that he's, his force of personality was going to be able to carry him through that. Like even when he goes on those rants and says they was fucking my baby mama they was trying to do this they were trying to bar it's like you're making accusations that maybe are accurate about one person or one person but like there's like eight people who are in jail because of this shit like mad people went to jail mad people's away from

their daughters their sons their family they arms their uncles they wives their husbands for what for what bro for for you for you saying he gets on there on that live he did the other day and this dude says oh they fuck them niggas they fuck my baby moms they stole my bread they did it Bro, you're talking about Shottie. Say Shottie's name and everything you feel like he did. And I don't even know if he really fucks out.

Six-Nine has a way of lying and getting what he wants and putting stuff in. He's good at marketing. He's very intelligent and what he does. I don't even know if that, nobody even knows that really went down. Who the fuck knows? You know what I'm saying? But Demi Nick, however he may have found that, it might be true. I'm not saying he lied.

But as far as anything else, whoever stole any money from you. I never stole a dime from him. He wasn't giving us shit. You know what I'm saying? You gotta feed your team. You gotta feed the wolves. He was thinking he could feed one person and they was gonna do everything. And he was giving me money and little stuff

and the close ones was getting little things, but everybody else wasn't getting nine. It was a lot of bros, they shows, a lot of bros risking their life, a lot of brothers that was there helping you, everybody helping you pursue your career. Nobody, this is not for nobody else. You ain't got a sako, a rap or a few more rappers,

we're here to help you pursue your career. Right. And I mean, but that, one thing I heard from people pretty early on was that 6'9 was basically just being super stingy with a cloud. Like he didn't want to tag anybody. Even the people that he was around every day, He wasn't tagging him, putting them on the story.

He only used to post me up and tag me sometimes. That's it. He never posts nobody. He posts Sanko song, a little blue tiger right down. He was stingy with the cloud. And I didn't get why you. I was like, yo, this time he got like a million followers to. And I'm like, yo, Danny, post him on the shit.

Yo, help the bro. I got them fucking. I don't know why he was like that, but he just was. Because you never know, he didn't have no long term jeopardy in his mind and fucking with us like that. You know what I'm doing for game? He got a trippy red can't say nothing to him now. Yeah, what?

Now he felt kind of big at this time. He took him. to what you was asking me, this is how we all fell out, bro. We never had no beef. Nobody never stole no money. Nothing never went wrong. We was all cool. Everything was good. We fly back from the Houston and L.A. and all that shit happened. They fly. Shadi takes him and two more people by herself. He don't tell nobody about that.

I'm in Atlanta. I'm flying back to New York. They had told my car and some more stuff had happened, and I needed some bread I couldn't get to. So I called Danny. I was like, oh, Danny, I need you to unwire me $5,000 somewhere. My car is fucked up in Atlanta. I can't get to no bread right now. Danny's like, okay Otto I'm on the way to Houston with Shadi This is the last cool conversation We had before everything he says I'm on the way to

Houston with Shadi With I'm gonna wire the bread Soon if I get there and we're gonna talk when I get back Just let me know what's up when I get back I meet you back in New York But I'm gonna send the bread now he sends the bread Everything's cool I go at this time Shadi goes out there with itself So now I'm watching this shit from the internet

I'm on my I'm on my phones I'm like what the fuck going on he got this He got this nigga out here I'm calling Shadi he's like everything good They go out there This is when the J. Prince shit happened They go out there, they're in a sneaker store. Jay Prince here, they're in the sneaker store, Jay Prince Jr.

He comes to the sneaker store with mad of his mans. Boom, boom, I guess he talks. He told y'all, yo, y'all out here, whatever, whatever. He invites them to a party or something, or something like that that he's doing. He was a World Star Show, right? It was not the World Star Show. That don't happen yet.

This is a little private show. I was out there for the World Star Show and when all that shit happened. I was there. Okay. So it was some little private party that he was having, he was having a little saying or something. He was supposed to be announcing or something.

He tells them to be there at 12 o'clock. Please don't be late. I guess he got some announcing he making everybody's eager to hear it in Texas. You know, he's really big in Texas. Jay Prince Jr. asked you to show up somewhere in Texas. At Texas, at 12, you should be there at 11.30. Yeah, I'll be there 1130. I'll be happy.

Not even out of no other shit. Fucking Jay Prince Jr. told me to pull up, nigga. I'm there at 1130. I was lit. And a fucking Jay Prince and his family that respect. Even if they don't really know why they're showing them the respect, they just know that these guys hold a lot of respect. And this is their state.

This is where, you know, you check in. Because they're not even on like the most gangster. They're just on some, they just want you to show your respect when you're over there. Yeah, they wasn't even like the shit we were going to, LA, we're going to kill y'all. It wasn't even no shit like that. They just want you to show a little respect. And that's cool, that's cool. Anyway, like when you come to New York show respect, I don't fucking nobody, I don't care who you is, you come out here.

I don't be trying to pull up on dudes and all that extra shit, you know what I mean? Do you know your thing? You know what I'm saying? You ain't stopping my bread. So, guess what time shot he shows up to the motherfucker? One o'clock. Yeah. After one o'clock.

The dude, he said, show up at 12. He said what he had to say and shit. So you know what he does? He has the security in his man. Stop him at the door. Don't let him in. They're good. That's the man disrespectful.

Y'all going to come after 1 o'clock. You know, they started all the thing. They had the video. They kicked them out of the shit. Stupid. Still, you out there with Danny yourself and two more people. You don't tell nobody about that. You know what I'm saying?

I'm calling Danny. I'm like, yo, what the fuck is going on? He's like, yo, shit is crazy. Dada-da-da-du. He's like, but everything good. We're about to come back. The World Star Show is in three days after that. Three days after that, do you know what Shadi does again?

What? He flies back to New York. I don't know how Danny are not seeing these signs. The man didn't come to LA with you. He didn't fight. He didn't fight with you at no shows. He didn't fight at the Yams Day concert. He just got punched in his face.

In Minnesota, when that shit happened, you ever seen that shit? What the fuck was going on? The Super Bowl was going that year. That year, it was the Super Bowl. We went to Minnesota. It was zero between 10 degrees. We had to fight over there. Some dudes paid us $8,000 for a walkthrough.

And the dude was saying, oh, do two songs. And we're like, nah, no, we're not doing two songs. I just paid it for a walkthrough. We got the World Star hip-hop party for the Super Bowl game. Dugger, baby, everybody's supposed to be here. We out. We did our show. We came through.

We showed respect. It was his birthday party. We did that. We showed respect. We got to go. You know what I'm saying? He's like, fuck that. Give us our bread back.

I don't know. We've been here for almost a hell. How are we not giving you no fucking bread back? We ain't never stay in a way that long. Fuck is wrong with you. So we go outside. That's when that little fight happened. You know what I'm saying?

Shadi wasn't there. Fast forward back to the Texas shit. The niggas Shadi flies back to New York. How do you fly back to New York? And the World Star shows in three days. From now Danes, he's scrambling. Me and Harve calling him. We're like, yo, we're about to come out there.

He's like, I don't know. Shadi telling me, niggins shit was wrong. We argue we got a group text at this time. It's me, him, is only like 10 of us in there. We arguing in the group text, mad shit going on. And we're, while, and we're telling Shadi, we telling him, yo, you bugging out. Shottie's on some Shug Night shit.

He got his mind thing. He's just trying to get artists. He's just trying to do mad shit by itself. He's trying to steal. the name of Trayway. He having Trayway pop-up chops by itself. Like, he's just losing his mind. When that's not none of our stuff, you've seen what that was, you know what I'm saying? Because that's a big deal for anybody that's in the gang shit is that you can't just do like a commercial version of the gang thing and be the only one making money off. That is very,

that shit gets real touchy real quick. Taking the label name. The whole Trayway label is, you know what I'm saying, that's Saco Billy's shit. He started it as a label. He started it came from the big bro, but as far as the label and music, he the one started and start saying this, how we're going jacking him. I'm saying, y'all see the book, go check it out on Amazon. And I'm saying by Garland Tyree. And true or false, I heard that Shadi wasn't stealing money from 6-9 necessarily. Shadi was just using the clout to then try to sign different artists.

And he was basically like trying to like create something that was going to exist outside of that. He probably was doing shit for shows. They probably wanted 20 bands for a show. He was like, nah, we ain't coming unless we get 30 bands. He pocket the 10, you know what I'm saying? He split the 20. Shit like that. Weird shit he was doing like that at that time.

And I don't know how this dude wasn't seen it. And at that time, we never did nothing to him, never took a dollar from him. They're loyal as hell. What the fuck problems you ever seen we had with him in there? But that time when we start burning, Shottie's filling his shirt. So we like, you know what? I tell him, I said, you know what? I'm on the way to the motherfucking World Star Show.

Fuck is you talking about. We're going to fly out here. We're going to get 10 of our guys. We're still going to come out there, you stupid motherfucker. We're going back on. We might beat your ass if you even play with a shot you, and left your stupid ass, but we're going to hold you down here. We book flights for 10 of us, bro.

Me and hard, by ourselves with the bro. We booked 10 flights, remember? Book flights for like seven more bros. We fly to Houston, Texas, bro. Shottie still don't come. He's in New York chilling. New York, crime. Day on the internet, where the fuck you at?

Come to your show, come to your show. You ain't chill. You don't want your back in. They're going crazy. This guy's scared. He's not even picking up the phone for us no more, bro. At this time, I'm getting tight. I'm like, yo, you had to fly all the way to Texas.

We're out here to hold you down. We're at the World Star Show. I'm at that motherfucker with all that shit going on. I'm outside. I didn't even ever go inside. And he's in the hotel. He probably in the hotel, walking around the streets. he never show up. At that point, I'm like, yo, this is some sucking shit. I'm tired of

involved with myself in this shit. He's not holding nobody down. He's running off, listening to Shadi. At that time, I didn't think it was going to be so bad. You say, you know what? We're going to fall back. Let's see what he's going to do with Shadi by itself. What the fucking Shadi do? We're all back up right now. This is how we thinking. He's going to be fucked. He don't got no crew. He don't got nobody. We're cool. He's still on pick up the phone. He's not picking up the phone the whole time. He's sending me a little secret text. Your auto really shot. He said, don't pick up the phone, bro.

Y'all going to try to really violate and take me back home and then really try to hurt me and shit. He's going to hold me down when he get back. I'm like, listen to what you're saying. He's not even here. I'm at the World Star Show, Danny. Where the fuck are you at? Come to the show, you're embarrassing. Yeah, why would you fly with nine other dudes to

Texas just to beat him up? To beat you up, you, that scared? I'm like, yo, we out here to help you, bro. They're embarrassing you on the internet I'm watching it now you're looking like a real bitch this is the first place you never show up how to fuck you go all the way to LA but can't go to this fucking world star show bro he's like nah shoddy is saying some other shit I talk to Harvin bro I say you know what

bro we don't move like that we don't move like that bro we don't move like that bro we can't we I'm not to let's just see what the fuck happened you know what I'm saying we at the world start show that we say there the whole night dudes come on nobody say nothing to us bro we see t grizzly all of them coming out I spin we're getting our whips we spin boom go back to the hotels we I'm in shock at this time. I'm like, damn, I've been holding this dude down. I fought at every fucking show Miami. I got knocked out.

I went to the hospital and everything, bro, for this nigga. I still, I ain't got no hundreds of thousands of dollars. I don't got no hundreds of thousands of followers on Instagram, bro. But I showed my loyalty and shit. What the fuck is wrong with this nigga? She had me blow, bro. He don't give a fuck at this time. I'm like, yo, I'm not fucking with this dude.

I don't give a fuck how famous he get, how rich. And a lot of people were saying that. What the fuck? I took my old you and you did this. What the fuck? I didn't gain shit. I ain't lose shit. What the fuck, man.

Yeah, that's crazy. Because, I mean, at that point, it's hard for you to imagine like how much you had already kind of compromised your morals in terms of falling in line with some bullshit that you never would have tolerated

from anybody else, right? Thanks, bro. But it's just slowly creeping up and then at that moment when he doesn't answer the phone in Texas or whatever, you're like, oh, like, this is really fucked up. Like, I really can't just deal with this shit anymore, right?

Can't deal with it no more, bro. this shit is over, bro. This dude's bugging. At that time, I'm not like it's over. In my head, like, it's shit. And I'm telling him, but in my mind, I'm like, you're going to come back and you're going to see that straight.

You're going to see what's up, and you're going to be apologizing this shit because you're going to see Shottie can't hold you down. So we let it go, bro. And that's not how it went. What happened? He right back on the Internet. Suck my dick to more people,

beefing with more people. Now he's beefing with Chief Keefe and shit. I'm looking at this shit on the internet. At this time, remember, I'm not around for none of this stuff no more. this is where the split happened. Shottie links up with Roe and a few more bros from the other side. And he starts running with them.

They shoot at this time they shoot the video. No, he shot the got it, got it. Really get it up, which he stole from Pac-Man. If you go on the Internet right now and go to Pac-Man, it got two million songs, and Pac-Man was really cool. He died in the car crash with 18K. So rest in peace, Pac-Man, bro. And I hope I'm speaking for your legacy.

And people could hear that that was Pac-Man's song that he was beefing with Shadi. A lot of bullshit happened. And he convinced his not to take that sound. was on that song he was featured on that song peckman paid him to get on song he took the whole song got 237 million views and went and did it overseas and that was fucked up bro that was fucked up that danny did that allow shoddy to trick him to do that bullshit shoddy manipulate him and i know danie was young but how could you let somebody manipulate you to do all this fuck shit bro you live in shoddy's

life that he couldn't do wow and it's sad that he allowed him to to manipulate him and do all this stuff and shit on so many people he didn't used to go see his moms he got a brother that i was cool it that was my man i ain't gonna say his name because i don't want to put him out there like that but he didn't do wasn't doing nothing for his brother his mother was still living in bushwick in the old broken down with the broke door the one where he had given out the address on on no jump on the shit it was locus avenue right yeah it was right there on locus avenue right there but i just remember that for some reason yeah that's a good you remember that before i did and i lived up the block that was locus that was street he lived on right there by broadway bro because i remember

somebody telling me that like his mom was still living there when he was given out the address to get another place in another part of Bushwick, I mean, in Bedstah. And he was living in Bettsy right there. He was living right there. And a lot of people used to pull up. Oh, shit, six, nine live here. And he felt like, oh, we can hold you down. And we knew he lived right there.

And we like, yo, this is a clown, bro. Right. So was your attitude when you get back home? Was your attitude like, I want to do something to this dude? Or was your attitude more like, fuck it. I'm just leaving it. We get into it at the club. We got a club called.

What club was that? That was Lutz, right? That was at Club Luss. They're in the club after that. After we come back from Texas and everything and everybody comes back, he's in the club with Shadi and all them dudes chilling their club love. Jake Kerch and Rich the kid is in the club at this time.

So I'm like, this is like another slap in the face. This dude didn't even kill me. He left you in Texas. How to fuck you in the club with him party and throwing up money? Again, we round up our guys, bro. We in that bitch. We pop out. We go in the club.

They let us ride in. It was like, oh, nobody knows what's going on right now. So they're like, oh, your boy upstairs, yo, you know what I'm saying? They're, you know, nobody knows what's going on. really they're not patting you down on nothing I come straight in this motherfucker shoddy over there we run up shoddy we get into a little altercation security kick all of us out the club you him all of y'all starting to shit we got rich the kid in here and your rainbow frank get the fuck the kick is outside we getting an argument outside and that's when the real

beef started really real like fuck you fuck you you know what I mean that shit is lit niggas suck my dick all that fire is lit we at this club I'm gonna see you type shit we spin off on each other danny spins with shottie so I knew what it was at this time I'm like all right you spinning with shoddy say that uh huh Shottie took him down hell from there on right right right right right You seen him go down from hill from down there He beefing with Chief Keith this motherfucker get on this shit talking on Pace of my authority right

All the other shit would happen I don't really give a fuck about you know what I'm saying then my man Harf got locked up for this shit Harve was a good dude he helped it down the whole time man free hub for you know What the fuck hard every day wrong harv never fucked your baby moms or stole no money from you get up there you testify on him You testify on nuke and other good dudes forced them to take pleas that you don't even know right You don't even know some of these dudes. These dudes don't even, you never even chill with. They was riding for the team and the stuff and what they was going on. Not for you.

You don't even know them. You don't even know some of these dudes who's sitting in prison right now fucked up. And that's fucked up, bro. And even Kuda B was super loyal. And that was his little friend. He was cool. But Kuda B was blood. He wasn't nitrate, but he was blood.

And he helped it down for us and for him. And they was the same edge. And it was really cool. And he danced in a lot of stuff. You got him fucked up. Yeah, you take a kid like him who got talent. He's got videos that are doing well online and shit. and you basically put him in a situation where also like nobody ever talks about this,

but it would have actually been one of the probably the biggest tragedies in rap history if Chief Keith got killed. Like, I mean, that would have been a massive moment in hip-hop that we would still be talking about to this day if Chief Keith had got killed. Pause. What are you beefing with Chief Keith? I know exactly. What the fuck happened?

I'm still lost till this day. What the fuck? What happened? I never had no beef. Me and Tato, we had that little shit on it and everybody I know it, but that was just little shit and how shit. was coming on the back and I was sad enough for us. Tato was saying a lot of bullshit. But nobody had to be with Chief Keith or what?

Right. We never even met. Like, why does Chief Keefe need to get shot at just because Tato and 6-9 had an argument about Cuban Dahl? About Cuban Dahl. And you beat the girl up. Black both her eyes. Duff what is you doing, stupid?

Right. But then he took her to Hawaii, right? Yeah. And the girl's still back with him. You over there doing all this shit. She's still with Tato now. Then he was so tender dick. He was the tenderest dick person I ever knew, bro.

I remember one time he was like, bro, I don't we fucking no bitch. like that. This way, this before the gummo video, he was like, man, these videos, I mean, after these videos starting to blow, I'm really doing all this to just fuck all bad bitches, man, now, fuck it. I used to listen to shit, he used to save you. I used to be like, man, are you dumb? Right. Because, I mean, he probably wasn't exactly drowning

and then all of a sudden he's just getting a ridiculous quantity. He was going to go back to any of his videos, anything before he had no sauce, no drip, no jewelry, no nothing. I was talking to a friend of mine who was a big lean drinker, and he told me he used to always go to this lien dealer's house. There's like, only a couple of lean dealers in New York around that time, I think,

who really had a name for themselves. And he told me that 6-9 was always just sort of like lurking around at this dude's apartment like while this guy was selling lean. And then he was just sort of around just like observing whatever the fuck was going on in this environment. And he said it always struck him as really weird. And then when he became a popular rapper down the road, it seemed even weirder. And that whole situation with the little girl and stuff in the video, she was 13 years old.

I didn't know that at the time. See, I'm watching this stuff. And I'm thinking they said use of a child and a sexual performance in the music video. He told us like, yo, this is what he said. He said, listen, man, the girl she came through. She said she was 19. She was just dancing in the video and stuff. But I think somebody had sex with her and some other stuff happened.

They was playing with her or something like that. But she's 13. You know what I'm saying? You can really tell and look in a girl face. You know, some girls be looking older but 13. She couldn't have looked 19. There's no way. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, I feel for him that he was super young and he might have just ended up in a bad position in that situation. But he was 19, though. Yeah, that's why we stopped talking too. A lot of people saying, oh, he was young, he was a kid and stuff. He was 19. He was 19. I was in 20. I was in prison.

Doing over 10 years fighting for my life, holding it down. So I don't want to hear that he was 19. He was a kid. Nobody looking at dad. I went to prison. I was in there fighting, making fucking knives out of this shit. Yeah, that's why we stopped talking about because I thought it was super corny how he denied that he ever even had a case about some kind of sexual shit, period on his interview,

acted like nothing ever happened? Yeah, I was in the crib. He had the green hair the time. I remember that. that was prior, but like, oh, you did another one. He did the actual interview, and it was like, he just denied that there was anything

at all that happened in terms of a case, and he's saying, look up my name, look up my name, search Daniel Hernandez, and then it comes out that there really was a case, and I was like, I felt weird about him just lying about it on the podcast, you know? Yeah, he lied about a lot, and he tapped into a fan base

that is kind of hard for his fans and stuff for people to get mad at him, which are a bunch of women, a bunch of young girls, a bunch of young kids, and a bunch of the Spanish community, hundreds of thousands of them from all over the, you know what I mean, the Spanish town. They look at him like, oh, you know, they kind of fuck with him on some big, some big shit,

because they don't have nobody that big. What big rapper, you know, besides Fat Joe and them that day of their days was lit for the Spanish culture. You got some of them, but they speak only Spanish, you know what I'm saying? They do Spanish music. Yeah, and that's a mind-blowing thing is that, like, recently he's been posting on Instagram, he'll get a quarter million comments on a post, and you don't see one rapper. You don't see one person that you actually look at as being from, like, the real rap culture. Like not one New York rapper, not one LA rapper, not one rapper.

It's just Instagram models and Instagram comedians and shit in those comments. And some of these people are disgusting. Y'all supporting what he did to so many people just because, you know, that's some racist stuff to me, you know what I'm saying? Just because of the culture. I respect backing your culture and everything, all power to that. But when black dudes snitch and really go out there, we're not jacking at. You see, we're having a Troy Ave and all these people who snitch, they can't really come to the game.

And y'all just for little kids you got. But let me tell you, I was in Atlanta one time and I was just, driving by and I see mad like 15 Spanish kids. They was Mexican. I mean, especially Mexican kids and they was coming from school. And they had just got off their buses and shit and they was walking. And I was like, you know what? I'm going to ask him a question. I said, yo,

you fuck with Six-Nine? They was like, hell yeah, hell yeah. He's Mexican. He's lit. He raps. That's the, I fuck with him. So I'm like, I'm like, oh word? I'm like, so you don't care that he snitch? He was like, I don't really, you know, no. It's foreign. I don't really, no. So I said, watch this. He was with a man. I said, if all of y'all

was cool and Six-nine was your friend, right? And you guys, did some bullshit, y'all ran in the store, and y'all stole or y'all beat some kids up, and y'all got locked up, and then 6'9 was told on you, and then you got locked up, and you went to prison, you got locked up, would you fuck with him then? He was like, nah, I probably wouldn't. So a lot of them don't know, or they don't understand, or they don't grasp the concept of what it is, actually, you know what I mean? I'm just saying... I think part of it, too, is that it's like you and me, like, we all grew up, if not even being involved with games, like, I wasn't involved with it, but I had respect for it. And I understood the concept of someone being involved in selling drugs or whatever and that there has to be a code of secrecy and that you don't talk to the cops, etc, etc.

A lot of these kids just don't even have any sort of understanding or any respect for people who are living that life at all. At all. Which is kind of crazy. I mean, if you're embracing it, you should have some type of respect for that shit, you know what I'm saying? It doesn't make no sense. Why even involve yourself in that shit? 100%. This dude, he used to be at my house so much.

He was at my house the week before we went to LA. He used to leave mad shit at my crib. If you go on his page, this is his page right? He got 19 million followers. You go all the way down on his page right. He might take this off when he see this interview. I'm surprised he does have the old stuff. You see this jacket when we, he, with Jimmy Boyd with this red jacket right here.

Right there we got the rack, this red jacket. Right. Yeah, it's on his page right now on his six-nine page. You could go see it. He used to be at my crib so much. He left his jacket at my house in there. I still got the jacket. Till this day, bro.

You got throw that on eBay. I'm going to throw this on eBay. Ten bands. Ten bands. Anybody want this jacket? Six, nine real jacket. Let me stop. I had this jacket so long. This is a jacket.

You were going on this page. There's mad pictures with it. Everybody remember it. He had the blue one, and he died the blue one. Rainbow when we did the... Oh, yeah. What video shoot was that? But so at this point, you decided to leave,

or to stop fucking with him or whatever, and then how does it go from there? Like, did you, did you have like active beef with them where you were sort of having to look out for yourself and shit? You know, still talking, you know, so like, oh, I don't know what you want me to do. I'm here now, you know what I'm saying? Shadi holding shit down, bro, that shit crazy. Like, da-da-da-da-da-da-da, I got love for you, call me if you need anything, all that dumb shit. All that dumb shit, he's saying this shit.

Then he started talking crazy. I'm like, Danny, why are you talking to me like that? Like, you know, I'll slap your face off. You're not even like that. Like, stop playing. Right. And boom, we just kind of start losing connection to the point when we just stopped talking to all. mad dump shit start going on that's when a little robbery shit happened supposedly in the uh in

manhattan in the studio and all that shit you've seen on the internet and the ballplay send the shit and all these shit start taking place you gotta leave that shit because after a while it's like niggas ain't fighting over that little nigger like some bitch or something you know what i'm saying that's what i'm trying to make niggas do fight over the nigger and he ain't no he's don't fight over no little bitches so it's like you got to step away from that type of shit and he was breaking up the official yeah you're breaking up bros you're breaking up families you're you breaking up people who've been cool for years. You know what I mean?

Over money and greed, like life is crazy, bro. So you're just sort of observing it at that point. One thing that came out in the whole indictment is that they had basically scissors embedded in the bloods from early on there, like before 6'9 even came around. I don't know nothing about that. Them dudes are not even bloods, bro. This dude, they took in this dude, CEO, Chris,

this dude, you ever seen him with the boy? I'd never seen him in my life. I don't even know him. He's supposed to be a phone. These dudes wasn't bloods. I don't even know these dudes. I never even hung with these dudes. The nigga offered me, like, a quarter minute.

to sign today's fucking record label the big chain that he was wearing the CEO Chris nigga the AP chain oh you seen him before because I've never seen it I swear to God I'm like nah niggas don't even know this nigga why he offering bread I don't know this man he never heard my shit he never heard none of us he don't know us yeah so that shit right there was a flag mm but they turned out the the the fucking the the driver right they they turned the driver into an informant because I never knew the drive either by the time they got that driving he came around he was new maybe a month or two

into that. He never was never our driver. He never drove for us. At that time, we drove all our own calls when we ran it. We were still on some coming up shit at that time. We was going by then they started getting drivers and all this stuff and they got this dude, Horheen or some shit like that, horror. He ended up being in a play. I never met him a dame. I like that. Fucked up. They're so stupid.

It was something where he had an old case for fucking an underage girl or something. Oh, the Jorge dudes? I think so. I think that the cop, the FBI saw that he had this existing situation that he had been able to skate on or some shit. So then they bring that to the table. They're basically like you're going to into prison unless you become an informant and wear a wire and let

us put cameras all up in this car so that we could capture more shit about what six nine is up to right damn that's what i remember reading i think so that's what i read and so so what do you know about that robbery and how it went down and what the motivation behind it was they got harv and you know i'm saying bro's locked up for the robbery and i'm supposedly saying um this what they said in the case on TMZ that you know harv was mad about the situation and the breakup so they couldn't catch each other And supposedly he felt like he owed money and he caught him slipping and robbed him. You know what I'm saying? Right.

For his chains or whatever, that's what they got him locked up for. You know what I'm saying? Hey, well, I don't know the truth to that it was going on, free. However, he's still fighting his case, you know what I'm saying? Hopefully he'd get out or get a lesser sentence, you know what I mean? I don't think he deserved what he's going through. You know what I'm saying? Because regardless of that happened, like, this niggas, look at everything that happened.

Like, you portrayed this and had so many people fighting for you in their lives and you left everybody stuck in the hood and rain off for Shadi. Even Shottie, shame on you, Shadi. You're supposed to at least come around the beach. back in was like take care of everybody and was like I know I'm you know what I mean? The whole shit was just so how do you feel when you heard about the indictment when you're just sitting on the couch at home? Oh I was sitting in the on the couch

and I was scrolling through Instagram and say six nine shoty at first I didn't I was in that mad and I didn't care I was like fuck them niggas because three days before that had just seen that interview what he did on the breakfast club and how he disrespected us and how he said that and I said he started trade with Obviously, I proved he didn't. Go get the book.

It was written in 2013 on Amazon, the trayway, Garland Tyree. Fuck out of here. BIP to the big bro. And... I mean, it must have been just while watching it because you're like, that could have been me. That could have been so easily wrapped up in that.

I thank God so much, man, and I pray and I'm not into the super exact religion, but I believe in God and, you know, the creator. I think everybody should pray and believe in God. You know what I'm saying? No matter what you're going through, no matter how gangster you think you is or how soft you think you is. I saw if you think you should always pray because I prayed a lot, you know what I'm saying, the whole situation and the whole situation and me and the bros and the guys that are really good.

A lot of couple more good guys took fall and that's in prison right now, but God got me. He always protected me through prison and everything I've been through. That could have been me, man. Had we not been in all them little arguments, I probably would have been right there doing mad, still doing dumb shit with him, you know? Yeah, 100%. So, yeah, like, I mean, watching the whole situation played out, though, like once you heard about the indictment where you just assuming that he was going to snitch on everybody right away,

Did you figure that that was how was going to go? Or did you think it was... I knew he wasn't built for that, bro. But, you know, had he shut his mouth, he probably would have did a little five, six years, came out like Bobby Schmurter and I'm like, well, it was so hard about that. You was there, you involved, somebody put a gun today

and he had to say, yo, do this, come out here, record this. He was doing, recording all the shit that was going down. Nobody told you to do this or say this about Chief Keefe. You did all this, bro. You brought all this energy to everybody. Nobody was a rapper. Nobody was famous.

Nobody had beef with these dudes or had ever had the opportunity to speak to these type of dudes before in their life, bro. It all came from you and you said, fuck everybody. When you got caught because of shit shoddy did to you and you believed and you were scared, dead scared to go to prison. You know that he would probably telling his mom not to go to prison. So don't think he just did that to get out some shit. Get the fuck out of it.

Do you guys feel like there's dirt on your name in Brooklyn in regards to how people view that situation? Yes, it was dirt on my name for everything. Like it's dirt in my name. They deleted six of my Instagram, bro. Yeah, that's crazy. I had mad Instagram accounts, bro. Shame on Instagram in one year, bro. Over 20,000 each Instagram I get lit.

I got some bullshit bum-ass Instagram now because a bunch of his followers hating on my gram and him and they're in Shadi and they getting my gram shut down on whatever the hell they was doing, you know what I'm saying? They ain't verified me. Right. Verify me, Instagram.

Yeah, everybody go follow both of these guys will put the ads on the screen right now just so we can... Follow Billy Otto, B-I-L-L-Y-A-D-O-N-5, man. Right. Put that through the interview, just let it sit there, man. Let me get my followers back. It's got to be kind of a crazy experience, though,

because it's like, on one hand, you got to be able to, You deserve some respect for dipping out on the situation early and not being able to tolerate. I can't get no respect. Why the fuck everybody's saying this and I shit it on Danny? And I tried, how the fuck did I shit on this guy? What the fuck did I do? He shit it on me, if anything.

Right. What? I ain't complaining about it. I ain't crying about it. I had my little ranch sense and little dumb shit on the internet, but I kept doing what I do. I kept getting my money. I'm lit. You know what I'm saying?

My money, right. Everything right. I'm in a different state every of a week. Like, I don't give a fuck, bro. I'm not crying over this shit. Shit happens. I move on. everybody's taking this shit so serious on the internet hit me in the dm hundreds of dms or i don't

care this shit don't take away from our pedigree it's not taking it's not taking no hood we still who we are we still who we are we're still who we are bro like i mean cally i fuck with mad dudes out here i got mad friends out here mad people fuck with me mad people respect me i pull up they pull up for me bro you know i'm saying like come on bro it's a few people that might be salty shout out to everybody shout out to to yg shout out to the game and the shit that was going on shout out to everybody shout out the slim four hundred you know i'm saying bosco is still a clown he is a clown i got he's just a comedian to me i just when did that beef start like like that was yeah i don't mean i never had no beef with that dude i said what i said and i said and i posted

the fight where he got beat up and he ran and shit he got bad he posted me he always posted me on this page with his gay ass oh good i don't know what's up with that dude i got no beef of boscow i don't even know he is i wouldn't i would look at boscow if he'd pull up all me and i probably start laughing I'd probably be like, bro, go ahead, bro. You know what I'm saying? But shout out to anybody else, you heard. Right, yeah. Shout out to Bosco.

Damn, all right. But so, yeah, that's got to be a wild experience just to, like, have so many people know about some shit that y'all have been involved in, even though y'all weren't involved in the really shitty part about it, like the really shameful part that sort of ruined everything. We was the creators of the shit, though. If it wasn't for us, he would have died at a lot of these shows.

He wouldn't even went to the shows without us. Period. Facts. Does it stand out to you now? Like, do you, like, want to do more in the music industry because you have this experience? Are you like, I want to find that next artist? I want to find next artist. I want to find my way.

I want to try my way. I want to try mad stuff. You know what I'm saying? See what works for me. Then you got artists. You got sick old Billy. This stuff is lit. Billy had got millions of views.

But did that frustrate you and make you, like, not really care as much about the music? Or did it? I mean, what I'm saying? Like, we get, you know, we've been lit before the music, you know what I'm saying? Right. We've been lit before the music, I'm saying, been moving and shit. So it's like, it was what it was, you know what I'm saying? It slows shit down because it's not my bread.

I can't pop out the shows because I'm involved with Trayway. So they're like, nah, Seco Billy, nah, they're taking money from us. We're going to Miami by ourselves. We're not even fucking with these nicks no more. Niggas running down on us for bread for 10 Ben, seven bins. I'm in Miami. I'm in with Chicago. We dolo in Miami.

We pull up out here, bro. This is after the little beef and all the shit's going on. Shottie is booking shows and not telling 6'9 and getting mad bread. Booking all type of shit. Owend dudes' money. So we go to this club called... Fuck is the name of the club. It doesn't matter, bro.

We go to the club. 11? We go to the club. Some lit. Some lit shit. I want to shout out the club, too, because I fuck with the owner now. We go to the club. It's in Miami.

It's one of the only clubs close to the beach. You know what I'm saying? It's on ocean. It's on ocean inside. Okay. I forgot the name of the club. We go to the club. We get in eight boogies at the club or whatever.

We go in there. We know A boogie. Oh, that's our guy. We're in this bitch. You know what I'm saying? They come out. They see who we are. They're like, oh, shit.

And Trayway dudes, they go in there. We go up, A, boogey and over there. We go up in there and we're chilling with him. Bro. Do you know they come pull up on me? Deep as hell of like your pull-up outside for a minute? Who did? The security and some other dudes, I guess, the guys who are on the club.

So I pull up outside, say go pull up outside with me. They're like, where that bread at? Where that chicken now? We need that chicken right now. I'm like, what bread? What, bread to get in? They told us, what the fuck? What's, what's, what's, what's, we're in this bitch?

You can't tell my no money, we got money, what's up? They're like, now that eight bands or seven bands and shit, I'm like, whoa, whoa. I take my hand on my pocket, bands. I'm not no bands for you. Oh, you know, Ben, what are you talking about? Yeah, you and the Trayway guy and Shottie Book the show, and y'all never did the show of my bread. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, I got nothing to do. with shoddy my man you got the grip and all out a bunch of them out there that's when

the owner came out and me and the owner talk i don't got nothing to show we're not even fucking with them dudes right now because a lot of people in the world didn't know and i'm not on the internet saying fuck six nine all that so that was crazy another thing was crazy we went to january i think it was january 18th they had the uh it was super bowl weekend they had it in minnesota at the time when we went to our club i told you when we had to fight with them dudes or whatever yeah we had it um we went to the world star was having a party we go to the world star party bro. Thugger, baby, and all them in there. Our section is right next to Thugger session. That's the first time we meet Thugger. We go over there. He dap up, six, nine, Dugger. Baby

dap him up. Baby had him in the headlock for like five minutes. I had to go over there. What the fuck, you're telling the man? You're trying to steal the artist or something? Right. Get up off the man. This is the first time you meet Thugger. Me and Thugger exchange. Numbers we talk, we get really fucking cool. You know what I'm saying? I got a lot of family in Atlanta. It's like my second home. Shout out to the A. I'm always in Atlanta. I pull up out there one day. This is a crazy story, bro. Check this out.

I pull up. I pull up out there one day. I call Thugger. I'm like, Thugger, what up? It's Otto, you know what I'm saying? From Minnesota. And she's like, yeah, I know you on, bro. I'm like, out here in the land of chilling.

He's like, I'm at the studio right now. Downtown I'm saying you to address. Pull up. He's like, who you were? I'm like, I'm by myself. He's like, man, pull up. Pull up, by myself. Bro, I go in the studio with mad people in there,

mad bloods. But a lot of them know me. And they blood, you know what I'm saying, too. They cool. They dat me up and all of that. I go in there, I chill with Thugger. I call Danny, and I'm on the phone with Danny. I'm talking, I'm like, yo, I'm going to get some one in the studio with.

I'm with Thugger. They chopping it up on the phone. He was like, yo, Otto, remember that song? The song we just did? He was like, yo, see if he want to get a verse on that shit. I'm like, I let me hollered and we get off the phone. I swear to God, this is how I go down. The song was the song, you know what I'm talking about with him is Thugger, 6-9 and

Torrey Lanes. We ain't playing games in there, bitch. Oh, it's Colorado. I remember hearing that and being like, wow, Thug got on a 6-9 song. I couldn't believe it. I go back, this is how it happened. I go back, and you can ask Thugger. I go back.

I'm like, yo, Thugger, you know, we're from the hood. We're homies and shit. We're trying to come up, bro. We respect your shit. We're trying to get you on the song. Six-nine got this little song. At this time, it was 6-9, um, um, Torrey Lane and Jim Jones.

Jim Jones is on the song. They cut Jim Jones verse out of the song, and they took him off the song. Nobody even knew that when, when Doug did his verse, Doug said right he was like hell yeah y'all niggas homie I hope y'all blow it I hope this song be lit man I recorded right now if you want me to I'm like hell yeah that's lit bro he sits down with his engineer he like tell him send me the beat I call Danny back I'm like you'll send the beat right now he's like you dead ass I'm like I'm dead ass send the beat right now he sends the beat right to the engineer he turns the beat on

thugger saying six nine bang red like hi oh my niggas six shots in the spot I'm sitting here amazed right there with thugger I was just in prison listening to my little headphones the dougar new shit and I'm sitting here with thugger he recording this song for niggas like this is crazy boom we dapp up we lead a studio um i'm chilling the song the song i get no money for the song i get no finders fee i get no rights nothing bro at this time red flags was going up in my head this is before the minutes this is before the um the texed and shit and you know i mean all this has happened weeks weeks after each other it was just crazy bro god damn that's crazy yeah i mean now that we've actually seen like what the the whole mission statement

that he's going to go with now it just seems like disgusting and distasteful for him to be just getting on camera, showing off all the jewelry, bragging about putting people away, and then trying to, like, defend it with this bullshit of saying, oh, they stole money from me. They did this to my baby mom and stuff. And he was using his racing cultures, it was whack. Best, best case scenario, the accusations that he's throwing out there are true about one person. Definitely doesn't apply to the vast majority of everybody else. I mean, that's got to say about everybody else.

Sorry, here's a million dollars for you guys. I hope to help you guys and everything you did. Nothing. Maybe I can help some of the guys that's locked up. You know what I mean? Maybe I might not go to it myself, but here's some bread for you guys. You know what I mean? I know the neighborhood y'all.

I slept on the floor with child. I slept on the floor. He took my dirty shot. He slept on the floor. Danny that was in there. You was in there in the hood with us every day after show falling asleep on the same floor and the couch with us in that same place. Bro, what are you talking about?

You come from the same place with us. You don't know none of this people. He don't know this girl. What's her name? They got the tattoos. all over him she's the biggest clout chaser out there and she don't give her fuck you think she really give a fuck about danny i don't know her we never seen her never met the girl he probably met the girl two months before he got locked up yeah and he's saying all of this about sarah and it's

really fucked up if sarah fuck shoddy for real fuck it you know i'm saying it's right for him how he dragging her in the shape you think that's some fuck she don't you don't fuck shoddy bro how could you do that you know i'm saying you stupid-ass girl but if she didn't then it's wrong how he dragging that girl bro it's really wrong right because she's going through a lot behind all of this shit too so i don't know the truth so i don't i don't know how to decipher between the two but I know it's just that's the craziest shit I could possibly imagine and you know what I was thinking I'm looking at all those girls dancing in that video and I'm just thinking like wow

which one of these girls is going to get some money from some fucking guy to give up the address and then the address gets leaked the next day I couldn't believe it that's crazy you know what I'm saying it's not safe for him he don't he just it's wild too it's wild too because we're thinking that he's going to be staying at, you know, somewhere far away in the city's right there on Long Island. He can't leave you on an ankle monitor, bro. He's on an ankle monitor. He can't leave New York City. He on probation. So he can't even go, like, upstate enough. Where you're going to go, bro? That's on him. That's on him. Wherever he go, that's on him. I don't care what he do. I don't care what a fucking crazy situation. I don't have no beef with nobody, bro. It's crazy that you live through it.

Well, yeah, you just don't want him to come knocking on your door when something happens to him. Yeah, don't come knocking on my door when you got some beef going on. I'm sorry. I need some Don't call me. It's just the most bizarre thing I ever seen to see so many, like, kids basically supporting them. Supporting him hundreds of thousands and millions of kids from everywhere, from different parts of countries and nofuscult. Or who don't even know what snitching this?

What did you mean, I snitcher? But it feels like it's really like, like, he wants, like, as much as he acts as if he loves being hated or whatever, it feels like he really is hurt by the way that he's not being accepted by the rappers. He's scared. He doesn't know what to do. He's taking the energy. of the people, that's how he always lift.

As much energy you get, I'm going to rise with it, the low energy you get. I'm going to feel bad. He had self-esteem issues. I know him personally, you know what I'm saying? He probably wasn't my friend growing up, but I spent months and months and months every day with somebody. When you be with somebody that long, you kind of learn a lot about them, you know? Facts.

Yeah, man, it's a crazy, crazy situation. So what do you guys been up to since then or like in terms of other shit you guys got going on? Man, I've been going through so much ups and downs, but getting locked up. again you got like to begin for what some dumb shit kicked in my door for some old ass warrant that i ain't even have some old bullshit then i was going through shit i lost my car i had the new i lost the motherfucker i got another car but i'm back right you know i'm saying my case is getting my cases is over you know what i'm saying my bread back right i'm just i'm blessed i'm here bro we're

doing things we still working on music sako got a lot of music you know what I'm saying i'm saying about to drop some shit sheep um about to drop this record sheep i'm saying that shit shout out to the pro pro's man shout out to the pop-bye boys they just that's my friends from my neighborhood they just got signed with Hancho records. Oh where? My dudes, you know what I mean fleeing them Joe? Shout out to the guys. Oh shit. They signed with Cueva? Yeah, they signed with all right I'm saying. Oh shit. How are you like New York's? Shout out to the whole pop out. New York's on some crazy shit right now. Whole city's on a lockdown and meanwhile people still killing each other left and right. York is going crazy right now. I don't know why. Oh shout out to the Frisco gang too

you got the Frisco gang too you got the young boys going crazy I'll check them out. But New York is going crazy right now. What's going on? I don't know. I'm barely paying attention to it through the songs and all this crazy shit going on. But is it like, is your area still on lockdown? Or is it just like Manhattan where nobody's allowed to leave the house?

I mean, people leaving the house and going to stores, but you go outside. You don't really see much people outside. You know what I'm saying? Especially since the pandemic started getting worse and stuff, people not really I don't go outside. I'll go to this. I grab this. I'm right back in the house. So I'm chilling with the road. We don't go out. We don't really interact with people like that. Yeah. You could go sit on the porch a little bit,

but you can't, there ain't no restaurants open or any no clubs open, there ain't no concerts. No, no concerts or no concerts. So it's like, nothing like that. You could leave the house a little bit, but they ain't really that many places to go. Where's you gonna do? You know, they're forcing you back in the house, you know?

Yeah. It's nothing to do. Fucking crazy, man. What a weird state of affairs. Did you see the shit that came out today where he tried to donate $200,000 to this charity and they rejected it? Yeah, so Mike called me and told me about that action.

I'm like, come on, you think you're just going to give it. They try it. They're not stupid. You know what I'm saying? see what you're doing they don't want involvement in your games you know i mean a lot of people's not with your games you're playing you're putting rat shits in your video i didn't even watch the video somebody forced me to sit down and watch the video i didn't even want to watch it that bad

i didn't even see his live i swear to god i didn't watch the live i was on the plane actually coming to back to la because i had left i was on the plane coming back to lae the day he went live that friday i hate you i told you i did watch it and it was definitely a whole thing i watched it i'm gonna lie i watched it after the fact you know they told me to go to youtube so i'm like fucking check out something so you have to you have to so i'm like fuck yeah i mean i just don't like i expected him to get locked up and come back and try to at least do something different than what he was doing before i thought he'll say i thought to me i thought he was going live i didn't really think he was even going to go live but he did and when he did go live i thought he was going to be

more sympathetic and had a lot of more apologies for mad people he just going there and start talking my niggas fuck my baby moms niggas stole money for me not everybody you talk about one guy you can't say nobody even nobody else even had debt was that close to you you you or had access to no money to steal from you. Yeah. You know? Then Shadi come through trying to sign people. Alexis guy was never signed to the trailway label.

Skinny from the 9, he was just never signed to the trailer label. He was the most wannabe person. I saw his kid that always get knocked out. He was talking about what the hell is the 9? He's from a residential area in New Jersey, and he calls it the 9, I guess. He really needed the protection more than anybody. Yeah, but nobody was fucking with this dude, bro. But Shadi thought he saw some potential in the money.

He thought he saw something in him, you know what I'm saying? When I first met, he from the 9, he showed. me the picture of him in 6-9 at that video shoot that you're talking about. That was the only picture he had with 6-9 and tell him and shot. He started getting cool. He was never around. He was never with the game. And that was the whole reason why Schemean from the 9 got me to like acknowledge him

at all as he walked up to me right away and showed me that picture. And I'm like, oh, I guess I'll listen to a song, yeah, whatever. That's how he was getting a lot of people. He had it posted his integration. He had it. He was so determined he didn't post no pictures after that. He was only post-door. He left that picture up with the 6-9 for the long time.

I was like this guy is crazy. That's fucking hilarious. God damn. All right. So, I mean, yeah. None of the people, that girl, Phoebe. Which one was Phoebe? She has the baby by Lance Stevenson.

I think she plays on a real basketball while I was in L.A. now. Oh, okay. She's from Brooklyn. She was trying to rap. I met her. That was my friend first before she knew anybody that girl, Phoebe. And she was from Bedford Stuyvesant. She was really cool.

She smoked weed and we was cool. And I brought her around. And I told people why I'm going to shout out of your six. This girl, you know what they said? She's whack, bro. She's trash. Why you even bringing her around? I'm like, yo, she's cool.

What the fuck is y'all talking about? Boom, I start bringing her around more. I'm like, fuck that. You know what I'm saying? She's like, oh, don't care about your friends. I feel. I'm like, yo, just come. Cool.

I was so real to everybody. And I brought her around, introduce her to all the bros and stuff. And they start liking them more. I guess, I don't know, whatever happened or whoever she started fucking with her, and she started thinking. At first she was like, oh, I own friends

and all of your friends might be trying to fuck me and they think and I'm not really on that and stuff. And I'm like, yeah, I feel you. I got you. I don't care about none of that. I'm trying to. You hear people we fuck with you now, you're cool. She ended up running off a shoddy too.

Being cool, stop answering my phone calls. I brought you here. You started dick riding after that. They still didn't fuck with your music. They never posted anything about you. She got some of her clout and she was also Lance Stevens and Big Army. You know what I'm saying, the NBA player. So she kind of has her clown. And every way, she ended up getting on real basketball wives

of L.A., I think. She out here was something. But some people are just so fake and it's just so sad, bro. How people do for clouthing money is just sad. God damn. It's fucking crazy, man. I was the realist. I don't care what nobody said to everybody. I kept with a honey with everybody. I fuck with everybody. And even though a lot of shit happened with Trippy Red, shout out to Trippy Red.

Because at the same time, Trippy Red was trying to warn us in the beginning and warn everybody, and we ignored the signs because he knew 6-9 before all of us. You weren't there for that fight situation with Trippi and 6-9 in the city? Yeah, we was around. What happened in that one? No, he's just, he got punched in the mouth, you know what I mean? And he tried to hold it down, but you know what I'm saying? You're in Brooklyn or whatever, but.

It was all because Danny was telling us he was he was he was you know he's fucking up my name everywhere He's telling people oh he don't fuck with me no more because I fuck with little girls He got he got he got mad clout and it's his name we like at this time we're like shit We just had a little sexual performance they didn't even fuck the girl or nothing and we saying this we're like yeah why you why you're doing that to his name you mad whack this is what we think of time But we don't know the real story and the problems they had in the end of shit and end up he found six nine and he won't got a He got a deal already with 10 K projects oh trip you got to find his fee on that? Yeah They say, Tripi, you got his finest fee on that for helping him. He brought him around, and he got signed with 10K projects.

So even when he was, he was never actually signed to Trayway. You know what I'm saying? He was still signed to them dudes, which is the same dudes who gave him $10 million for the two projects, you know what I'm saying? And they wouldn't let Shottie inside the restaurant when that shit happened. And the dude got shot. That was the same restaurant with the same dudes because they felt like the whole time y'all came around with this trayway shit. Y'all stole our artists. Y'all made him big.

And what the fuck, y' y'all can't even come in. He could only come in and shot he got mad, I guess. I don't know what happened. God, remember that. That's crazy. Yep. Fuck. What a weird time in rap history. Rap history.

Even you, you know, that's the fucked up thing about it, is that, like, even dudes who were directly involved with it, you still got to pay a little bit of attention to the soap opera because it is entertaining, you know? So you can kind of relate to, like, where all these kids are at. To me, that song ain't nothing special. The song is just regular as far. There's nothing special about it. You still can't be talking about shooting nobody.

You can't say nothing about coming through and spinning nobody at chicken spot. and shit. You know you ain't Spanish shit. You don't even have nobody. You're never going to a chicken spot. Nobody can't really listen to the song because they made me listen to it again. Kennedy Frye probably wouldn't even serve her right now. What the hell? You got to just do some Spanish music. Nobody wants to hear you sing. Nobody wants to hear you sing gangsters shit no more. And a lot of people I've seen when I watched the live because I watched it on the internet. So I'm looking at the comments. They're okay with it. Real dudes. I'm seeing that was real dudes in official tricks and saying, yeah, I could feel that stuff. What can you feel? You can feel him talking my shoddy. Nobody else did nothing grimy to him, you know?

nobody else he shitting on people and said fuck people and left people in her and he was just going on with his plan he probably didn't even give a fuck about Shadi You still talk to Kuda because he's out now Hally the bro

That's a fuck yeah You holler with the bro Shout out to Kuda Freehoff It's just crazy It almost feels like with 6'9 being out now They need to take everybody Who went to jail for that shit

And just let him out Man It's let him out It kind of feels like that It feels like it's such a ridiculous joke situation that they should just acknowledge like, all right, this is silly. They made this shit so big on the internet, but I know the law. I've been locked up.

I mean, that shit wasn't even that serious. They just was big. It was big in the internet. It was dumb-ass charges, little robberies and shit. Shaddy got the most time. He got 15 years while Nuke did. He got 17. Danny probably would have got five if he had shut the fuck up.

I don't know. Y'all was just there with him. Shut him off. Light five. You would have been out. You did two, motherfucker. Almost two. It was three more.

You would have still been in there. You would have came out. you would have been way bigger than you are and you would have had the hood still you'd had every aspect of the game he's mad dumb that's a good point because we all know that bobby's coming home so the fucking red carpet he's coming on a red carpet he's coming on the back you got the jack bobby smurder i don't give a fuck i'm coming to come home like the biggest hero a gift mark my remember that for bobby smurder i got something for you my nigga just for being who you is my nigga right like hold that yonix held out ronnie rebel shout out to y'all niggas you

know that's facts fuck all right so uh anything we need to look for in particular you got like a tape or video or project coming soon? Definitely, you know what I'm saying? We're about to drop this video sheet. Niggas gonna get it as soon as it dropped. You know what I'm saying? I could kind of imagine what you might be doing there, theme-wise.

Yeah, regular shit, little boy cry wolf type shit. So I'm saying, that's dropping soon. Look out for little boy cry wolf. Yeah. Facts. Follow that Instagram. They're going to post it on the bottom again.

You know that shit. Say, oh, Billy Auto 5. B-I-L-L-A-D-O-N-5. Can I get my followers back? Y'all know me? Y'I just didn't know where to find me. Yeah, I see that Instagram live clip of you on YouTube. that's just like Billy Otto goes outside.

And it's just like, he just on the blog, just being like, what? I'm out here. Fuck y'all. I'm out here. Yeah, because, like, y'all, they took my, oh, you can go back to Six, Nine hood and stuff. And I was just doing it to be funny to entertain the crowd.

Like, I can really do this stuff, y'all. Like, this is my hood. This is not Six Nine's hood. But you don't feel like there's, like, people in New York that, like, really want to do something bad to you because of your involvement in all that? Yeah. Yeah.

And the jails and the jails. I was just on Rock and Island. They know what's up with me. I was just in the island. I just came home. I was just, I'm in the hood, regular. I'm in time. Fuck with these dudes.

They know the real. Everybody know the truth, but mad, different people, probably and stuff that I'm finally telling the story. This is the first time he's speaking about anything. LAX via everything. We didn't even know what I'm fucking dudes earlier. God damn.

Crazy. All right. Well, I appreciate your time, man. It was good to get that insider perspective and all this fuck shit that's been going on. Fact, though. Big facts. That's a snapple fact.

All right. I appreciate you. Appreciate you too, man. Billy. Billy. Say go Billy. Much love. No jumper. Shout out to no jumper, man. Adam 22.