No Jumper - BlockWork Denies Snitching Allegations, Beefing with Almost Every Drill Rapper in NYC & More

Episode Date: March 10, 2023

Blokwork's first time in LA, straight to No Jumper, to talk about his rise, the evolution of drill, and more. ----- 00:00 Intro 3:00 Flakko asks BlockWork about the difference in Drill music in each boroughs 4:07 Adam asks BlockWork if other boroughs could work together making music and if he thinks Drill music is going to last  8:30 Adam says radio stations shouldn’t play drill music that calls out opps 10:10 Flakko asks BlockWork how he felt after getting an Ice Spice shoutout 11:25 Adam talks about not believing in Ice Spice when first hearing about her 12:35 Flakko asks BlockWork about his snitching allegations and beefing with SugarHill Keem 15:30 Flakko asks if the beef was over $500 17:30 BlockWork talks about Kyle Richh, being a college student and using fake g__ and getting his chain snatched at college 19:50 BlockWork says Kyle Richh is just a college kid 25:00 BlockWork talks Kyle Richh getting ___ up on his own block 27:00 Flakko asks about Matt10 playing BlockWork for a verse and never getting it30:42 Adam asks BlockWork about Nas EBK getting arrested for a prank 32:15 Adam talks about JiDion and other prank videos going too far 32:58 BlockWork talks about his opp Kay Flock getting a RICO charge and not being happy they went to jail 36:35 Adam says Drill from all boroughs is hard and they get a bunch of views right away 38:26 Adam asks BlockWork about Kenzo Balla accusing him of trying to kick them off the show 40:20 BlockWork says he was going to make a song with Kenzo Balla until meeting him42:40 Adam asks BlockWork if he had any unresolved problems with d__ homies/opps 45:30 BlockWork on Woo Lotti leaving his man behind during an ambush 47:40 Adam asks BlockWork how much of the New York scene and beefs are public 51:20 BlockWork reveals if he’s ever been with Kenzo B 52:30 BlockWork on the CC Show and meeting a fake BlockWork 54:15 Flakko asks BlockWork about B-Lovee and says he's a free agent 56:30 Flakko and Adam talk about Drill rappers faking and paying for plays 57:25 Adam asks BlockWork if he wants to step away from Drill and making other types of music 58:25 Flakko asks BlockWork about Yus Gz and how he felt about Dotty Bopp 1:00:58 Flakko asks BlockWork what his 5 year plan for music is and wanting to expand his sound 1:02:20 Flakko and Adam talk about Ice Spice going to Drake's place and Drake not having any scandals 1:04:45 Flakko asks BlockWork what he should ask Kyle Richh when he comes to No Jumper  ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. And today we're in here. Me and Big Flacco, we got blockwork on the couch. How you feeling, man? Good, man, we all saw. Yeah. I'm good. I ain't going on.

I'm positive, L.A. You feel me? It feels great to be here. How many times you've been out here before? First time. First time. So how's it feeling? I think a lot.

I feel different. At first in the daytime, I was feeling a little. But when I was sunny, I'm getting to feel the air and stuff. But it's weird right now. Let me tell you, you're going to go back home. People are going to be going to. tell you oh it's never cold out there the weather's always the same it's like 40 degrees outside right now it's very out of the ordinary frow here i mean what in new york is freezing so yeah yeah but we got

hit with a hail storm this morning i'm literally doing morning cardio and i started getting hailed upon i was aside well that's smart honestly only lasted like five minutes oh really yeah yeah but i completely gave up on the workout right after like yeah yeah it got super sunny right away and i was like What the fuck was that? Anyway, okay, so you want to tell us a little bit about where you're from? Where you're coming from? I'm from Harlem, New York. I don't know for me.

I'm a blockwork. I've been making music probably, I'll say two years now, roughly. I've been going hard. I've been just, like, doing me. I kind of find my sound a year in and just kept pushing it. And now I'm just here. I'm doing a little bit of both. I'll be messing with you, for me.

I'm just trying to just go my life. Are you one of the only people coming up out of Harlem right now, would you say? Or is there other? I feel like I could count on my hand how much rappers there are in Harlem that are actually, like, constantly doing music. Right. It's crazy.

Yeah, that is weird. It's, like, weird, but it's kind of like, we got the Bronx into it, but then it's, like, they kind of grasp it more, and they had, like, more of the crowd, so it's so many of them. So only, like, a five, six Harlem rappers, and then you've got Bronx.

On the other hand, you can find 40 of them, 50 of them. Right, and let me just, like, fill in the stairs, area types of the people out there is that throughout New York City history, Harlem is supposed to be one of the most fashionable, jiggiest places in the world. A lot of style, trends, rappers came from there. Meanwhile, the Bronx, when we think about the Bronx, no offense to anybody from the Bronx. Dirty. I mean, it's not a luxurious place. Nobody's like, oh, I got rich and I moved to the Bronx. You know? Whereas, like, Harlem, you could be a celebrity. You might choose to live around there. Now, not to say that it's not grimy as well. But it is kind of weird. Like, we think about dipset. We think about. them as being like the gods of Harlem. And even like the ASAT movement coming from around there and stuff. So it is kind of weird that they have sort of been replaced by the Bronx almost to an extent.

Did you agree with that? Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. It's kind of like a, it's not, I wouldn't say we're going out of it. It's just like a, we grasp into one now. So I wouldn't say we like separated anymore. Like it's the same genre. We're doing the same thing. We just from like across the street from each other.

Right. Like we do the same thing. Everybody. I don't see nobody doing anything different. We just a little bit. further from each other. Nah, I mean, there's a big difference between, like, that Brooklyn drill shit. Yeah, definitely Brooklyn because-

And that brought show, yeah. They're beat selections. But the way we come with our beat selections, it's all more like us. We graft into just doing like the fast-paced drill sample beats. They more different with it. Like, I ain't going to say their drill was different, better, whatever. Their beats were just... Their beats are just way different than what we select.

So that's what made us different. Everybody's going to for what the beats are. Yo, and do you feel like that y'all was jacking the Bronx shit or the Bronx was jacking your shit? I mean, I would say both because at a time, rest and peace, my son died. They both hit each other up, him and EK, and that's what brought it together. We would have never been doing nothing with the Bronx. And then JD came along and they did an EP together. So that's what all brought, you know, Brooklyn, Harlem.

Like, we got the drill all in one. And it just went separate ways after that. So, I don't know. Do you feel like musically there's like potential for all the different parts of New York City to kind of be rocking together? Or do you feel like it's going to stay like the way it is where there's a lot of controversy between them? I mean, I feel like every little borough there's a rapper out there that has potential. It's just how far they want to push their self. I think people got to stop thinking like beef wise and more trying to collaborate, you feel me?

Because it's better two over one, you feel me? So if people just start, like, using their resources instead of top trying to battle against other people, it'll be better for us as a whole because at the end of the day, when you see something go up on the internet about everything, it's New York as a whole. We all get looked at. Like, when people talk about us, say bad stuff, they're saying drill stuff as a whole. We're all getting talked about as a whole. So if one person makes it better, people are going to follow.

That's just how it goes. So it's like one person just out of... Ack always makes the point about New York City saying, like, you know, Chicago, it's kind of like this crazy-ass, lawless place where people just getting killed less than right. And there's a lot of other cities in New York or in America that are like that. But when you really think about New York, you're talking about like the financial capital of the United States. You're talking about a place that has more cops than almost any other place. I'm pretty sure than any place in America.

And we've seen them just so consistently like catch up-and-coming rappers who have gang histories or whatever. Maybe they weren't looking at you too crazy. but then all of a sudden you start blowing up as a rapper. No, we're going to throw the book at you. It's happening over and over and over. It's just, like, do you feel like drill is kind of meant to last in New York? Or do you feel like you see, like, the violent aspects of it maybe going away to a extent? I, go, I feel like me personally, from my heart, if you're doing drill, you should just use it to find your way.

You feel me? You shouldn't want to do music and want to talk about spinning blocks and killing people every single trick. You fit me? It's other thing to talk about money, bitches, cars, L.A., Hawaii. We could talk about a million other things. So if you use in drill

to get the little cloud what you need, you need to switch over to Auto Tune, sing, whatever. Find a different flow. Use it for something else because in my, that shit, well, we're going to listen to drill forever,

bro. Who's going to listen to drill forever? I mean, I can listen to drill forever. You really think you could be 40 listening to drill? You're going to listen to the drill forever? Not 40 years old, no. No, not, no.

Because I'm almost 40. It doesn't get repetitive sometimes? Like, you don't want to hear the person do something else, like, grow and grass to. But when they do, wait, though, right? So, but when they do, though, and you have block work, like, calling B-loves soft because he sings. And then you want to. All right, okay. You feel me?

Like, come on now, you, you feel me? I mean, yeah, I feel a lot, but you could do both. That's what I'm saying. You could do both. If you feel like you feel like you're good at doing something else, proceed it. Let's be real. If drill is just for you, then just do drill. If you could make songs about whatever, and those songs would do just as good as the

songs about killing and about, like, who died and who were smoking on them, and people would do it. Like, we are now just kind of seeing young boys take this stance, right? Where he's saying, I'm not going to be making music about killing, et cetera. And it's nice that he's got this different attitude on music and everything. But let's also note that he's made, like, an insane amount of money from making all this violent-ass shit for all these years. And only now is he may be able to be honest, like, oh, I don't want to be that kind of person. I don't want to make money off of all that type of shit, you know?

Yeah, nah, because I've seen you like experiment in two. I see like a, I think, I think it was like a snippet, like, NY drill pit, right? And it was like a different sound, right? But like, bro, I'll be real, bro. Like, half these dudes, like, their vocabulary is limited to, like, ops, drill, right? Like, it's like a, like a 10-word vocabulary, right? I can't expect those dudes in who vocabulary

don't like extend as far as yours, right? To try to do some profound, like, you know, like some like, you know, some like emo, right? No, yeah. But I feel like, son that got to change though. Something has to change.

You go through something, you got to use that. Like, you got to use it as something positive. Don't always take it as a negative. People go through stuff and they just go think about doing something negative. You could turn that positive and that's, you just need a spark. You need that.

I feel like everybody could do it. Nobody's dumb. If I could do, I got two arms, like, everybody else. It's like Mayor Adams, like right though about like, there needs to be kind of like some like regulations on like the like radio playing drill, you know, and promoting it. I mean, yeah, definitely. Really? If I'm a radio station and at some point the cops come to me and say, hey, we were thinking

it would be cool if you didn't play songs anymore about smoking on a little boo-boo, whatever the fuck his name is, I would probably have a certain point. like okay yeah that makes sense like we do have a responsibility with our platform and shit I was thinking about that with the on the radar shit they tell you that you can't dis your ops before you record it no I didn't tell you not okay I feel like I've watched a bunch of them and I haven't heard people get too nasty with it because if we were going to do similar shit I think I would have to tell people like yo you can't be talking about how you're gonna fucking like you could you could dis like a rapper right it makes it

better that's my attitude though is you could dis a rapper but if you're gonna get on that fucking mic and say hey fuck the Crips I don't think we want to be putting that out there into the world, you know? Well, like, so for Aorta Raider, like, and they're not freestyling, right? Like, they're just like performing songs. I ain't gonna lie. Some people do what they want to do. Okay.

Like, the last time I went, I actually did a freestyle. Really? Okay. Like, I did a real freestyle, like, off the top of my head. People send their song to him and then Nicole to freestyle. But I think most people will really go that other route to you, for me. That other way is not really a freestyle in my eyes. I've seen a niggas go up there with his phone.

I like no cap I don't know I don't remember I seen him with his phone though and he was spinning I'm like yo what the hell is this kind of ruins the luck defeats the purpose like I could do that like what the hell you're not remembering nothing

it's crazy you're a dope though right and here's when I knew that you were different right when Ice Spice got asked about you sorry no like I asked Joe like who's a dope like drill rapper and she had I mean the options like she was you know like

and she had dudes like who she was messing with too right But, like, she ignored the people, you know, like, and everybody else and said, yo, block work, got that shit. Now, like, when, you heard ice-by-shot you all like that, man, like, what was your response? I ain't going to lie, my reaction was, I just love, you feel me? Because before she had really blew up, I really spoke to her, and I had told her, you, for me, like, I seen the potential, like, keep going.

I just saw how positive, like, messages, you feel me? Oh, really? I wasn't one of them guys that was really, like, for me, trying to beat down them doors, you feel me? I just be chilling. You missed out. Like, you feel me? You had your chance.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I don't look at it like that, bro. I don't know if you had a chance, but you know. Wait, wait, was you? I don't look at it like that, but I just was being positive for me because I've seen the potential. Like, I wasn't really stressing that even. With potential?

But come on, bro. Like, that ass was crazy. In a music career. That ass was crazy, man, bro, listen, if I heard Ice Spice, oh shit, I ain't no potential in that, right? Nah, I ain't go, I've seen it, bro. And the look, because I'm, bro, the look, and, like, she know what she was doing for me.

I ain't even going to lie, bro, bro, sex sells. She looked the look just gives Bro and I just I knew it I'm not gonna lie I like her EP I sit around I drop with me and my girl My kid are driving somewhere we are listening to the fucking ice spice E.P for like 20 minutes I think it's hard like I really do

But I'll also admit then when Black Dave went and did a video With her before she popped off That when I watched it My reaction was like Dave are you trying to fuck this girl Or like what is like I didn't But in my in my defense None of her music was really hidden like that yet she had like a little bit of traction but then the music got so much better like pretty soon

after that that i was like oh listen like back that though to me the bbw like ice spice was a was a different vibe but she was bigger before like she was like a bbw like she was like really i don't really i don't really like 50 pounds had that you're watching that for real east back to the cool no but wait though was you like inboxing her like when like ujs was trying to get at her too i ain't a lot i never even heard about that no i don't know any conversation i had with her was Like, yo, that shit was fire. Good shit. Like, keep going, feel me.

Yo, the good track. I love, fuck with that. She texted me. I fuck with that. She posts my shot. Swipe up, you feel me. There's no, like, nah. Not on that.

I'm just on my business time. I'm trying to get my money right. Yeah, man. Now, let's speak of the business, man. Let's get to the peer fuckery, right? And the peer fucker is, man. Now, folks been accusing you of snitching for a while now. Oh, my God.

And I guess it finally came out that you did not snitch. So first, break that down, man. So why do you? people think you snitch and just get into, you know, like, real shit, it was more say a money situation, bro. Yeah. Like, I was in a situation with my man's where he felt like he could try to, quote, unquote, yeah, extort me, you feel me?

Sugar Hill King. Yeah. Who's locked up currently, right? So if me, me as a man, you feel me, my pride, how, no, I deny that, you feel me? And basically, we went on to beef about, you know, petty bills. Nigger goes on the internet the next day and put out blockworks or right. But we got locked up, came home.

and we shot move look the shot that we did the shit that we got out yeah if i snitched on you and we just came home and i just paid half year bail to come home and we all good we about to fight this case to we about to like for me you know what's in set how the fuck did i snitch on you nigger yeah we came home and shot a fucking music video together yeah if you if i told on you nigger you was not like so the nigger just start acting weird went on the internet shi k went on the internet sign of gass it and now it was more like two because he was on More side, his side. And this niggas from my hood.

So you're doing some weird shit. So it's more like dumb niggas altogether against me. So now I'm looking at it as like, I'm like, all right, niggas do some fuck shit. He's only really kid by me. So I just separated myself and said, fuck that shit, you feel me? I'm gonna just poochin, niggas. What's up?

Hit my lawyer and shit and I just put out the information. That shit all in the internet, bro. Body can't footage. Yeah. Statements from the nigger with his name on it. Like, he told on me. But I don't want to gas it. I'm not a bad nigga.

I don't want to make the nigga Emmys look like that. You are artists. Go chase your career. You were a fuck nigga at the end of the day. You was my man. I had love for you. But I don't want to make your career, you feel me? I don't want to make your career, you feel me?

I ain't trying to. You told me, though, gang. If we really want to talk about it. But it's a crazy world we live in now where you got to prove that you didn't snitch rather than, like, someone proving that you did. Like, how the fuck did that change? Exactly. Yo, so King paperwork right now, I looked at it.

Now, now, it's a wobbler, right? You feel of me? Now, now, here's what it says, right? So now they did say he did cooperate. That's, you know, but then they gave like a quote that he gave and he was like, oh, I know why y'all are here the gun is in the fennie pack or some shit like that. I ain't gonna lie. He didn't.

Yeah. Snitch, but he dry snitched, bro. We in a car, I got it. He don't got it. Yeah. They come to his window. Stop. I don't have nothing.

I don't have nothing in my thing. You're talking to them without them even saying nothing. They're cops, bro. They know you have a gun now, bro. Why are you even saying nothing? First of all, you know what they're looking for, bro. You don't got to say nothing. Before the nigga even said nothing, he said, I don't got no gun in my fanny pack?

They said, nah, we're searching these niggins. They're not even supposed to search us. We're in a taxi. It's New York City. They said it's a traffic infraction. That's the driver's fault. Not the passengers. So why they're searching us?

Of course. This niggas token. It gave them a reason to search. But that shit weird, bro. But I'm going past that shit. See what's up. Now, listen. Now, like, and y'all fell out over $500.

Now, tell me, bro. Five hundred single. The Kim just wants some Zaza, man. Is that what happened, man? He's a burnt-out hood, nigger, bro. Like, he doesn't want that better for himself, bro. Like, where the bro? Why did he want the $500 for it, man?

It was like a momentarily thing. Like, I don't know, bro. If you were fucking with me, bro, niggas, no, bro. We had business together. Fuck, like, we was friends, but we really was doing business. We was on some street shit. We was doing mad shit. So it's like he knew the shit was going to come.

He changed on me for $500, bro. And the next nigga from another block, who now they smoke. all deads. Like, come on, boy, all this shit is coming back to light now. Like, I told y'all niggas this a year ago, bro. They're not our men's, bro. Now niggas wanna look at me like, oh, block work, no. Yeah, I told y'all, yeah, go, don't see how I was right now, you see what, this shit is weird, like.

Yo, here, right? So, like, speaking of, like, the turning, right? Now, like, people would say, like, a big critique they say, is, yo, like, blockwork is a free agent, right? Just, like, just respond to that shit, man, man. Feel what I mean? Like, and folks saying that you turn on your man's for the ops and then the ops don't fuck with you like just address everything. I ain't gonna lie. They were not the ops. Like if you want to get down to this,

I fuck with them because my manager at the time, he signed me first to his little group that he was creating. And then he signed him afterwards. So it's like I'm forced in this situation. These are new kids to the music industry. They don't have no beef, no problems, never touch nobody, never been on a blog, never spent nothing. Nobody knows them from no street, nowhere.

No have no debt. 41. They have no. So for me, I'm playing for these kids. So you were never formally a part of it? You were just around them. No. My manager, we just, this is just like a business thing, bro.

This is why I say, I'm just always trying to go up. After they stop fucking me, I'm with my manager. Literally, I'm about to push my career. These niggas just get in the loop by him signing them. Now I'm like, all right, they don't have no beef with nobody. You from me? They're from Brooklyn. Why not be cool with these niggas?

What the fuck? I'm got nothing against them? They don't got nothing against me. These niggas was not on no type of staticky time with me, bro. Nothing, bro. At the end of the day, niggas was just going through it out with my management. He fake.

We ended off at a good news, for me. Real nigger shit, we chop it up. He let me out of this shit. And I moved on, you, feel me? I'm like, still fucking with these niggas and shit. One day, my son Nadi die, bro, rest of the piece of my son Nadi, bro. These niggas choking like, ah, ah.

We about to make a Nadi bop. I'm like, what the fuck these niggas talk about? So I called this nigger phone up right now. Boom, boom, boom. He in the studio, making a song already. I'm like, damn, this nigg is. fiendin, like y'all niggas is feigning. What the fuck. Yeah. I'm like, all niggas is dead.

Y'all nigga's a shot, bro. If y'all niggas fuck with me from a certain stand, bro, we leave my block out of this. These niggas ain't do nothing to y'all, bro. I'm fucking with y'all. That's why I'm from, bro. I got to go back there and lay my head if I have to fos, bro. Y' y'allin' y' y' y' y'allin' y' y' y'all' y' y' y'n' ain't respected. That's it, bro. That puts you in a crazy position because you're really fucked either way right there. You either have to be for them or you have to completely separate yourself.

So I'm just like, fuck that shit, boy. I was just like, fuck niggas, bro. Niggas ain't really fucking me. Niggas ain't my man. I can't put myself in positions where I'm thinking niggas is different. I just have to stick to what I know. Just get money and keep doing this shit, Dolly,

you feel me, and just next page. Now I know not to put myself in a position like that. My team got me now. I'm Gucci on Dolly. I'm gonna do everything by myself. Yeah. Yo, now, now like, and we know like Kyle Rich as a super savage,

but like, and you said that when, like you was with him and he was carrying a fake knock? I like his music, but I don't know. Is he a super savage? I'm not going to say too much, bro. We don't know jumping right now, though, but he just got his chain snatched. On campus, right?

On campus, on a college campus. Oh, I see that. Oh, that's what happened there? And I ain't going to say too much, bro. Niggas got his chain, though. There's a little bracelet. His little bracelet.

Wait, all right. Niggas took his shit. Niggas got that shit. That shit fake too. He's rocking fake jewelry out here. How the fuck you son? How are you up, right? How are you up rocking fake jewels, game?

Tata just got a condo. You just flexing? He's just flexing. He's just flakening, boy. I ain't go out. Fake jury's crazy, bro. Now, listen, though, right? So, what happened there, though?

Like, part of the day, like, you know, like, rob him. What do you mean about that? On college campus? Yeah, like, you know, like, what happened? He was lacking. He's not like that. Boy's not like that. I'm telling you, it's not in his blood.

Why are you at college? His girl's there. I ain't go lie. Yeah, I do that sometimes, too, but I'm never loafing, though. Like, I'm never lacking. I do that to. I do that too. I go to college.

I'm not loafing out of college for nobody to look at me like there's a rap in here and we're about a staining this nigga. It's gritty everywhere. Street niggas in college too. I'm not playing that. Really? See, I'm like assuming that you're pretty safe at college. They've got to have mad of security and shit. You know it's be kids out there where they'd be, moms be forcing them to go to school. You know, they're still in the

streets. Those type of kids, like, you're going to college. I'm going to fuck, I'm paying for this shit. Dumb Niggas that's forced to go to school. Be the ones over there. New York is just so grimy that even the colleges are grimy. Because I feel like the colleges out here, like, if you are on campus, I don't think none happened to you. Yeah, yeah. But bro, being robbed by like fraternity members is crazy, though. Right? That's insane. And they're running right back to the campus, bro. You know, you heard

about the capas and shit. People talk about them like they're crazy. Like, you don't want to fuck with them like they're a gang or something, right? I don't know. It was like, bro, like, I think Boosie wore like one of their like hoodies and it was on his ass. So, you know, so you may be like, yo, there's some real stuff was there. I know a lot about gangs. I don't know anything about frats. Yeah, I never heard nothing about that. I just used to him. Now, but wait, though, right? But, yeah, okay. But let's get back to this, though.

So you said you seen Kyle with a fake gun. I ain't gonna lie fit, bro. In the trenches. I ain't gonna lie at a shoot, though, at a music video. Got you. Shown in the video. I could pull up the video merch right now.

It's up there right now. The spinning shit. Which will, oh, wow. Go look at that gun, bro. If you could get a nigga to zoom in real fast, tell me what gun is that, bro? You heard I have mad, for me? Tell, just let me know, bro.

That shit is, it's, plastic. To be fair, a lot of videos over the years, I feel like they had fake guns for the video. I might not even show it. I don't know. I might not even show it. I mean, showing guns in the video in New York is crazy in the first place, right? It's hot already. We can't have these.

You're just... Swables, though, and I heard, again, I dig right. Bro, listen, yo. They always say, yo, I dick rock every rapper camera. But I heard your squabbles is immaclet, though. I'm not going to lie, bro. I'm not scared to fight. I'll fight. I'll fight. Like, I got the respect for it,

I'm fighting him. But if a nigga really did something to me in the past, bro, and I catch him, I just, nah, I can't do that. Because I feel like a nigga would do to me. But if I got a respect for a nigga and I feel like he has threw the hands, me, I'll fight, nigga. I'm not scared to fight. That's just how it is.

So how do you, like, what is the life of blockwork like these days being that, you know, you're clearly doing well for yourself? People know who you are, but you haven't exactly, like, exploded where you could just be completely out the neighborhood or whatever. I assume you're still around a lot and shit, right? Yeah, hey, I'm kind of, I ain't go. I just be creeping bob, man. I be seeing what niggas be doing.

I stay in the loop, though, bro. I never try to, like, feel me? Like, I like, I'm, oh, I gotta stay relevant, bro. So I'm always in a studio. I'm always making new music, you feel me? I'm always, like, on my ground. I'm never stopping, you, you know, I'm outside every time, you feel?

I'm about to start doing more shows and shit. Really, put my face out there more, you feel me? Just start going a little bit more harder, even though I've been doing my best. Just got to keep going. You good with doing shows, though? Because I know it's tough for a lot of dro- In New York?

Nah, but I'm going to try to trust their area because, like, they be digger. So you've had shows that got shut down by the cops in New York? Definitely, bro. It's like as soon as I get to a certain sell-em-out tickets, it's over. Because they notice, like, what the fuck is too many people going here? And then they just shut the shit down. But how do they shut it down? Like, what's the basis of it, as far as you know?

I don't even know. The last one I went through, the promoter let me know. Like, yo, Shadab, they came to me. Like, fucking paparazzi police and shit. Like, I don't know. It's like once I put my face out there on a flyer, they get to go like wild and little shit's crazy. I remember we had a No Jumper show with Jim Jones in Manhattan

and that got shut down. Really? And this was like five years ago, four years ago. I'm like, why the fuck they shut down a Jim Jones show? But I heard that they are so against like gang members doing rap shows that it don't matter that he's much older than like the average gang member that it's still like, oh, he's a bloody, you're on a rap show, like we're shutting that shit down.

That's insane, man. Now, after like Nadi Bob, though, And you, now people, like, called you all for smoking on Parlet, right? Yeah. Now, look, now, folks are saying that Parlet is from Howard, and he's not for one, you know, like, dad man. No, he's not, that's what I'm saying. Remember when I tell you, these kids, there's nobody?

Yeah. This is just Kyle versus friend. Gotcha. He's friend. He's friend. So, not, any one of them don't have no type of feelings toward him. It's just Kyle. Right.

So what I'm saying that, that's for him. Do you regret it, though? Regret what? Like, like, so, like, for example, right? So, like, they were saying, say, that like Kyle really don't jack him like that. He was posting that like every day like, yo, I love you, bro. I miss you, bro.

This nigga told me when I was in the studio with my son Boone him to Woo, my son from Brooklyn told my son to his face. I'm smoking Paul A right now. What you're going to do? He say, yo, that's my brother, bro. Please don't be saying shit like that. Really?

Then we went on with this through session and I made a song with him that day. Shit was crazy, bro. Wait, wait, wait, pause. So he told him. He told him. He told him. I'm smoking, man, it's,

to his face? To his face. Because we all on the same label. This is another artist that's on the label. Like my son, the manager, child's a bro. Like, we had a lot of artists at the time. So he's another artist that was on the label.

He fuck with me more than he fuck with anybody else though. So, for me, you know, I'm smoking your end days. Nick, what happened? He knew him too. And he thought that to beg cow rich with the two Cs? Well, that thing is a college kid. He was enrolled in college two years ago. He just started drilling.

He thought the shit was a way to make money. Bro, bro, I ain't gonna loud them, man. Like, now, that right there is blown my mind, bro. Because smoking your dance on FaceTime, man, you know, IG is cool. But your face is crazy. He a kid, but when a grown man is talking to him, it's like a different persona. Like, the nigger in person is just quiet. He doesn't say anything.

Like, nothing. Now that he's acting, he got a little bit of clout fame, a little money now. Trying to pop his shit, that nigger was never like that, bro. For me? Like, it's never a time while I feel. Like, I had cows a threat. Like, we outside this nigga don't do shit, bro. Yeah.

This nigga got beat up on his own block. Like that. When? So what I'm saying? I've been on these niggas block more than them. That's, bro, listen, right? So, look, so, like, getting caught lacking in somebody in, like, else's hood? Cool.

But on your own block? Man, come on, man. Are you sure? You're talking about Kyle Rich with the two Cs? I'm telling you, bro. Now, yo, listen, though. But let's talk about this, though, right? So let's talk about the cop work song, right?

Shot E.K. Now, this is a white kid called Matt 10. Yeah, what's up with that, though? Like, I ain't a lie. He's clout chasing. Like, oh, my God. Like, E.K. Folling off, what's going on?

Yo, his stream's not going, like, what is he doing? What is he doing? Leave me alone. I don't be talking about you anymore, bro. I'm not worried about with Sha'EK. Yeah. This guy went out his way to tag along with another content creator link of this song about me and put a poster board.

You called him a content creator? He's a content creator. This guy's not an artist. He's not an artist. He's outside of Miami and Spring Break doing videos. This is how I found this guy. And I don't know what he got against me. But it's just, I don't know.

I feel like he's chasing club. That video was outrageous. That was crazy. That white boy was talking crazy. I mean, you can't get it. I'm not responding. I'm just trying to level up. You feel me?

Y'all going to see me getting bigger. Y'all going to hate me. That's shit. I'm not giving y'all response for that. That shit was whack. Yo, we're sure to be with that white boy, though, right? Yo, bro, he tried to tell me to hop on a song, I dubbed it. I ain't gonna lie.

It wasn't, though, like, out of respect. Like, I was on my gritty shit before I was in the hood, bro. I didn't know how to really like... What white boy were talking about? I'm Matt something. Oh, okay. You know his name. I didn't even, boy, I didn't even know how to really, like, upload my music.

Say you scared him. At this time, never. Never. I ain't gonna lie. But he hit me for a song and I dubbed him, though, you feel me? I didn't even know how to really upload my music or nothing at the time. I'm in the hood. I didn't, I was just doing it.

I was just on some gritty shower. I was just like, fuck that shit. I'm not doing that, nigga. Fuck you. Get out my damn, nigga. Wait, did he pay you though or no? No. So, like, he out here cap because he said, like, yo, I pay block work for this verse.

If he paid me, he would have had the verse. Gotcha. He did the video. Where's the verse? Yeah. Where's the verse? Yeah. Question though, man.

Like, Matt be outside of him? Cause, like, I'll be real. Like, when I've seen like him. I don't know where that nigga from? I don't even. he from? I've never seen him ever. How did he meet up with Shahi K.

He came to New York? I've never seen this kid ever in my life. He's never seen this kid in my life. He's the first time I've seen him on the internet. Kid is crazy. Bruh. Hey, because I've seen like Matt 10, I was like, because one, like,

I see, like, these different, like, side characters and shit, right? Yeah. And he just seemed like, just a random, like, you know, like side character that just popped up, you know? He's like another Maddie G's. Nah, hold up now, bro. Maddie's a demon, bro. You can't do that, man.

Not, Maddie a demon, man. He came back from the death. He's back. Like, Jesus. Like, what? He's late. He did that for Clout. Do you see what people?

Cloud was a new drug out here, bro. I used to be watching him. Back in the day, I used to always be watching him burning flags. Yeah, you go crazy. Clout is the new drug, bro. Yo. Hey, here, bro. When you heard that Maddie died, man.

Bro. What was like your take on that? I ain't gonna lie? Just because he was one of them weird niggas I always be saying some, dumb shit. It was kind of like a smirk. I roll a skinny blunt for him. Did you just, did you write him off as a, as a white boy or as a gang member? White boy, he came to the studio in Cornynard with a pocket knife.

That's hard. Me and my niggas got blicks and sticks and that shit. He got a pocket knife. We're looking at him like a fucking, like he's naked. Like, what are you doing? I mean, a pocket knife is crazy. Pocket knife is solid. In New York, you might even cut somebody.

You came to the trenches, though. Like, we all got guns and we're looking at you like, whoa, bro. You're not safe right now. I'm like, mm-hmm. Wow. Wait. Hey, Bradshaw, look, so who's the harder white girl? And you're white and you're supposed to be, quote-unquote, like, what the fuck?

So if you're a white gang member in New York, you got to go a lot harder? Yes. Damn. Yes. I'm definitely not going back. Yes, bro, I just feel like it's a, yeah, it's the way people look at you. Definitely. Yeah, really.

Yeah, and, like, who's a harder, I guess, white boy? Max the Demon or, like, Maddie G. Max the Demon. I don't know. I go a lot. Bro, tough. He just started going through shit. I stopped dropping, but I love his music, boy.

I used to listen to that shit. He was one of the niggas that brought me up. I used to listen to this shit before I was really, like, who I am today. I fuck with his music. He was nice. Did you see the video that got Nas EBK arrested for terroristic threats? He basically was doing a prank video for anyone who hasn't seen it.

And basically just fucking with a random dude who's with his girl. And the guy ain't feeling it and starts to like basically like walk away from him or whatever. But he says something to Nas and then. And now it says, like, I'll cut you. Like, basically. You know, I feel like it's the way you go about things. Like, you shouldn't be outside doing that, bro. Anything you should be outside doing positive pranks, bro.

You're positive pranks. We already drill rappers, bro. We already do negative stuff, you feel me? I feel like the way he was doing that, where you went out, or Google me, ah, they probably went home, Googled him and made a call the police before. Because they googled him and seen he with somebody. I was like, all right, you want to fuck with us?

And it's just now, like, look, you got all this dumb shit on your name because you're out here doing negative stuff. You can go out there and break people and do positive stuff. Put a $100 bill in their pocket. Run away. Like, you know. The cops love shit like that where they have it all laid out for them.

It's on camera. There's no arguing. There's no way you could really say that it didn't happen. And you're on, like, you're out on, you're done. Like, they're posting it too. That's crazy. Yeah. Like, they're posting.

It's out there. Yeah. But the YouTube kid who made it, I don't know how close he is with him. But that kid basically set the whole situation up, right? Because if me and you were doing a prank and you said something like that to the kid, I would probably think, like, I can't put that out. He's going to get a rest.

I feel like it's not the YouTuber's fault, though, bro. You can't fault none of them, bro. I do videos with Buber and Nodi all the time, bro. We go crazy, bro. We was about to do one of those videos just like that too, but we wasn't going to go that crazy. Like, we would have did some positive shit, more than some negative shit

because I was telling him, that's not a good look. You feel me? I think like the Gideon pranks and all that shit where, like they fuck with people but they don't take it that far. But even sometimes I think that shit can be a little. Like the Uber eats shit. Like you don't play with people's food, bro.

People can be hungry and shit. Nah, nah, come on. You know when people are mad? You know when you're hungry and you type bangu type shit? Like, you just want your food. Like, you don't play with people's food, bro. You're going to make somebody do something they don't want to do, bro. Yo, but not as EBK, like, manager came out and said they, uh,

and they're about to charge them with, like, murder, too. Murder? Yeah. His manager said that. Aren't the cops supposed to say that? I feel like he's about. His manager already said like, like, like. Spoiler.

I got something to do with that. What? The eight-man DOA trip. Oh, he's part of that? Yo, listen, pick on that, though, man. So they got, so this is the day that it came out for anybody watching this, this is the day we found out about the K-Flog Rico charges.

8 a.m., like, I've seen that shit. Yeah, would you have to be seen it? You're funny right now. You're saying Bali, bro. I'm already in Cali. I was already happy. I was just, I was like, damn, what the fuck? That shit made me, like, turn my stomach a little bit

because it's like, we all as a whole for me when I told you, like New York, we all. So that shit, it's my ops at the end of the day, but we still all like do the same shit. So just to see them, that like could have been me. Like shit, that's why I separate myself from gangs. I don't think that's the way to go in New York. Like it's already set up for you to fail, you feel me?

I don't think you want to be like involved in that shit. But rappers always want to say like, no, I don't wish jail on nobody. I would never want to see that shit happen. I wish they were on the streets so that my homies could kill them, whatever. But are you willing to admit that you actually are kind of happy to see like a bunch of your apps get thrown to jail? No, no. Bro, I'll be happy as far.

If it was me, I want every bad thing to happen to people out of life. I'm not in the whole year, though, bro. And just me, like, going through that, I don't never want to wish that on nobody, bro. Those days I be in there crying, nigga. Sometimes I got, like, medical issues and they can't tend to me because,

I'm in a fucking jail. Don't give a fuck about me? So I'm in there hurting pain. Probably got a toothache. They don't give a fuck. But you would be happy if your enemy died, right? I mean, depending what. You might not want to admit it,

but there'll be at least a little bit of, Like, oh, all right. When people are all smoking on each other, deads or whatever, it's because they're happy. When you talk about, like, being locked up in prison, you got toothache, you can't get it worked on. I mean, in some ways, it's almost worse than death. You're being tortured.

Definitely. You locked this out of room, but you start getting, talking to yourself for that motherfucker. You got no weed, no perks, stuff. I've seen the homies get solitary confinement for a year. Come out, be like a totally fucking different person. It takes them a long time to be normal again. Sorry, I can stupid.

No. Yo, but here, right, so question for you, but do you think that Kay Flock will ever see daylight again? I ain't got out of the way I was looking at the show. I read, so I was reading this shit. It was like death for life or some shit. You're military life sentence, man. Hey, wow, look.

You got free flock, though. I go out freedom boys. But that's what's crazy is that the shooting that he was a part of, allegedly, that that could have been viewed as something that might be 20, 30 years. But then once you throw the gang enhancement and the criminal conspiracy,

conspiracy on it, then it could become life, which is pretty insane. No, here, Rachel, even that shooting, though, where, like, I think his lawyer said that the dude who was walking towards K5 with, like, his hands in pockets, and he got found with a gun, you know, in his pockets, right? So it's like, so that could have been seen as I, you know, do 10 years for that, you feel of me? Rest of peace with wild scott, bro, I ain't go a lot.

That shit. That's a detrimental, but he put himself in that position, bro. Yeah. For me, I ain't going to say too much, but everybody knows what he's, he was at, you feel me? That shit ain't happened in the Bronx. It should happen on our side. Yeah, they told me he was walking around in his op's hood. Basically, like, the kind of situation where...

The newest drip. New Marys that just dropped. He did have a mask on, but, you know, I mean... New Jordans that wasn't even released yet. He was up, bro. What a dickhead. Man, listen, first time I signed a deal. He only had fresh clothes. He didn't have no wax shit to put on.

No wax shit to put on. He said, this is all I have, bro. He was up to because that was like a week after signing his deal. Oh, yeah. That was when he was at the peak. You know, he had just done rolling. Loud. Yeah, he was about to go crazy.

Everybody's talking about him nonstop all the time. He set the tone for drill, even though people don't want to admit it, bro. Oh, really? Flok is lit. But that's the crazy shit about it is that I feel like the Bronx drill, New York drill, New York music in general, is lit regardless. Like, when he got locked up, it felt like, oh, damn, maybe this shit is over now. And now it just shows you, like, how much people is still in here.

Because Bronx drill, like, I was thinking about this, very few pockets of rap music in New York, in America where you could have a new artist come out and do half a million or a million views within a couple weeks, who realistically is a brand new fucking artist, but it sounds like, and he's associated with other rappers, like that's pretty unheard of. There's not that many scenes in America

where that could happen. I have that shit fake, though. Right? Some of it, but a lot of it seems pretty convincing. I say 30% fake. Shia you had 200,000 views in two minutes. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I ain't allowed.

I was fake, bro. All my show organic. That's one thing I love about my music. I really got real fans. I lost my gram three times, bro. I got 50K subscribers on YouTube, I got real niggas that want to listen to my music, bro.

It's not about the social shit, bro. I got fans that want to hear me. So I just pay attention to that, and I build it. Like, fuck the internet and the clout. It's always going to be there to get and grab. Yeah, because, like, all right, a lot of young artists,

you see them talking about their friends or their gang or whatever. Like, it's the most important thing of the world to them. I feel like you almost got lucky. in a way where you got to see how petty and fake a lot of people are like early on so you have kind of got to realize early on oh now this is just about me and making bread and building a career or whatever like I don't know I I respect it yeah I'm glad I seen that shit that has

opened my eyes and showed me like this shit is not I mean it might be cool to be around your gang members or your friends people you call but at the end of the day you know that I'm saying you're with a hundred people you still by yourself not not facts man so what about when Kenzo Baller comes on here and had a little story about seeing you at that show. Boy, I ain't gonna lie. He was capping.

I even said this shit on my gram. This one made me hit you up, I think. So, okay, his story was basically that there was a show, you guys were both booked on it and that, what was it? Your team was trying to get him off the show. You know the team?

I was talking about I already had with 4-1. This was their show. Okay. They booked it. So this is my, I'm leading it. I'm the biggest artist here. Yeah. 4-1 is not bigger than me.

I'm the biggest artist here. I got, I got the hits before them. Let's go. So he put my face on it first. Now he's adding people to an Asian door. People that didn't even pop up. People that didn't even show. Then he asked me,

Kenzo Bullock could pull up. I said, yeah, I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. Me at the end of the time, I was just like thinking business time. But I just wanted to see what his energy was at. At the end of the day, he's not a street nigga, bro.

He's just a regular kid, bro. Small guy. And so what was the tension like when you seen each other? He shook my hand in the backstage. He shake your hand? Oh, my life I could die right now. He shook my hand. Is this dead, though, and on stage?

I mean, He just, he put a song, he had only had one song I was lit, and he said my name in it, so he had to perform it. And I'm sitting there watching the nigga. He took my eye left. I'm watching the nigga. I'm watching the nigga. Back in the back of the shit, just watching him.

Took my eye left. Nick, I stayed out. I left last. I stayed to the end. Like, I'm signing girls sneakers outside and shit. I'm loafer. I'm lacking, waiting to see if he's going to come outside and do something. Now, listen, though, was you, like, shocked him, right?

Because Kenzo said, like, yo, like, when I see you, block work and he was going to violate. That's NYPD there, bro. I know how to act, bro. I know how I get, bro. All this shit is just for the internet, bro. Be all humans at the end of the day. I know how to, I know what I'm doing, bro.

I know how to really, for me. Like, if a nigga want to do something to me, then we're going to do it, bro. If you wanted to fight in there, he would afford me backstage. He shook my hand. Shaking your hands after saying... It's crazy. He doesn't want no smoke with me.

This nigga was about to do a song with me. Wow. Like, I'm telling you, bro, this is the shit that niggas don't be seeing, He don't want to tell niggas we was about to do a track, bro. He acting like a bitch. What happened to the track? I ain't going to lie. I just wasn't really filling his energy.

After that, after, literally after the show, he goes on the internet, talking about, well, Blockberg was on nothing. How was I on nothing? Nigel, I was in. You came to me and shook my hand and said, it was good, Block? Damn.

Yeah. I mean, listen, though, man. Listen, Kinse was a hard rapper, though. So, like, and that song, that would go crazy, bro. I don't listen to him. I don't think I'll ever do a song. Nah. Now, come on now, bro.

Bro, listen, if this team gave you $100,000 and said, bro, listen, man, do like an A bar. Just A bar first. $200,000. No, no, no, no, no. 100K. Come on now. Like, $200,000.

$200,000. The wallet. What's the most expensive feature in Bronx drill that you heard of being sold? Chai K, right? Could I just show up out of nowhere in the Bronx? Yeah, Brian Shai K and I, Matt 10, the guy. He gave him his mom's whole career. His whole mom's work career, Matt 10 took that and gave it to Shaii K.

Everything, every dollar. Video and a song, too. Video and everything. He paid for both of that. Now, but listen to him, right? Hair, so like, real question is this, though. So, you was cool at Eda. Now, and you said that...

Because he got you to start rapping in the first place, right? Yeah, bro. People don't even really believe this shit, bro. But when I was locked up, bro, these niggas already doing music, So it just motivated me from in jail. I'm like on the countdown here and these niggas drop music. I'm like, what the fuck?

We coming from doing dumb shit in the streets, basketball, dumb shit on the block. I'm like, yo, music. Like, what the fuck, niggas? Starting a whole new lifestyle without me. So I'm like, all right, got to come home and get in the loop. So when I first got home, I was mad confused.

And I just, the only nigga I had to ask was him. He was there for me. Like, he put me on a, using United Masters like putting my shit out there. Like, don't just put your shit on soundclats. like regular like he put me on everything i need to know so he definitely like made me how i am now he made me my own boss bull because that's it different bro he really taught me how to do this shit

so much through sessions he helped me like for me figuring my myself out nigggy he's a good rapper i ain't gonna lie whatever happened to him that shit so but then when he had negative things to say about you where were you guys at in regards to that or did that ever get resolved to any extent before he passed i ain't gonna lie right before he passed niggas was like this shit So crazy, bro. Niggas was literally on the verge of, like, dead and that shit. I don't know where his energy was at, you feel me.

Niggas had little issues, but we grew up together. We've been through worse together, bro. Like, if it was really that, like, I seen this nigga so many times. It was never no, like, feel me? I just feel like it was the internet shit. Whatever I was getting put out there on my name, niggas, just treated me. Like, I was a bad person, bro, and I started fucking with 4-1, niggas just started looking at me, like, this nigga block would betray to us or whatever, you,

But it wasn't even really all out, you know. And I let him know that we spoke mad times on the phone. We had conversations. I know where his mind is at. People won't even believe it. His man, his closest friends know what's up, but even though they still try to, for me, going interviews, say dumb shit about me.

They know my vibe. They know how I feel. I took the time on my day to cut in his candle lane. I ain't know how niggas felt about me. Yeah. It's static with me and they are in my eyes. You feel like that niggas gonna do something. I still came in there, I got love.

I got respect for him. Family, him, all that. him, all that, nigger. I've risked my whole life coming in. I'm going to fuck, what a nigger say you're going to do? That's right. Now, like, and you say that Shai'K, you know, like kind of had him viewing you in a certain light.

So, like, what happened there? I ain't going to lie. Shai K was just more like a, we all had, we was all brothers at one point. So it was like, for me, we felt that brother feeling. So it was like, if you go for him, I'm going for you. But it started feeling like, Like, niggas was leaving niggas out

Like, niggas fill in the Bronx, niggas more And now I'm the nigger like telling niggas Like, hold on, slow down. Like, send me niggas leading you on. Like, just play the block, bro. Don't forget to your niggas in the hood, bro, put these niggas on first, bro, we matter. We're the niggers that's going to beat it

when you don't need these niggas. These niggas are going to get lit and leave niggas, bro. So it was just shit that I was telling niggas, like, at the end of the day we could do business with niggas, but why are we making it such a friendship, bro? They really got cool with us over one thing. I ain't even want to say to us, but they got cool with us over one reason.

All right. One reason, bro. They only got cool with us over one reason. What, similar beefs? Yeah, bro. Because niggas, I mean, niggas did, niggas. That's spoke to them. Bo, Nuggedy is gone, bro.

Ulladi was a nigga that they beef with. Niggas took that nigger off the map and now they want to jump on our dick. Because we jack O wa, and they jack OG. So it's like, why not make it an O to O? I'm like, what the fuck is the O to the O? Yo, I came home. I said, yo, what the fuck is our O to the O. Oh, man.

Yeah. Like, I was confused. Like, what the fuck is that? I went through the core and I'm like, oh, it's cool. I'm jacking it, but I still wasn't feeling niggas, bro. Yo. Now, now, like, what happened that night was like Wuladi, right?

Because now, and I heard that bros were spinning in. Now, listen. Now, again, it's a real sensitive topic, but we got to touch on it, right? Tell me. So I heard that one of the dude that we have had here to, him and Wuladi was spinning. Now, people is.

accusing Shai J's of leaving Wuladi now. I don't think that's true. I think Sha have already, like, touched on it, right? But they said that Wulati and Shia and them were spinning in Y'all Hood, and folks pulled up and they left. So, like... Shavar, Rann. You left Wuladi, bro.

He left them, bro. I don't know why his gang still jacking, bro. You left your own men for that, gang. I know. You can't tell me that, bro. I know. But question, though, right? Like, if dudes pulled up, like, with guns,

and I was, let's say, Adam. Like, are we both supposed to run away? Not leaving my man's, bro. I'm not leaving my man's, bro. Sorry, bro. I look at you first to see if you're in the same time of time. Yeah. We run in together, bro.

Same way? We run in together. If we run in, we're running together, bro. If you trip, I'm stopping. We ain't for you to get up, bro. Yeah. You're wilding, bro. You're bugging, bro.

That's crazy, bro. What if we're in the car together and somebody kills him? and he's just done. Am I allowed to run? Or do I have to stay and tend to him? No, I take him to the hospital, of course. It's been off. Don't stay in that situation.

He's a big guy. I don't know if I'm going to be able to roll him into the back seat. Wife and Lucci type style. Get out of the car, dick. Get out of the car. If you already done it, so get the car, right? I'm good, but now, but, you know, like,

it was like, and that happened, though, right? Like, now it's kind of like, yo, like, both sides can never be cool of you. Never. I was already lit, though. Yeah. That just made, I, like, add a fuel to the fire. Like, you know?

It was, like, the young generation. Like, the old niggas already had into it. But that brought us into it more. Like, we, now, like, that shit locked in. That shit never. They were so young, though. Like, I think that shot was, like, 15. Like, that happened?

Yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah, like, that was like, this is kids doing this to each other, bro. You know what I? This is the type of time, niggas was on, bro. That's crazy, man. Shit was gritty, bro.

I ain't go like, shit still is gritty, bro. You just got to... Let me ask you this. The fans who are watching all this Bronx drill shit, what percentage of the shit that they really, like, know? Or are you as someone who's right in the middle of it, do you just know so much shit that the fans don't? I ain't going to law.

Real shit? I would say I'm a pioneer to this shit, bro. I've been around since this shit, like, Bronx started, bro. I've seen every rapper go with this and I've seen every rapper. I've been around to see everything. So I feel like I'm more like educated on it But I just know so much from being in this shit So I'm alone

I've been growing my heart as I'm still rapping I'm still here Nothing stopping me I get to see everything Like I got the whole layout Yo so like how accurate do you think Like those like documentaries are Because I know you've seen

Those block work documentaries Right when you like are Watching this shit man right now First I'm shout out to this Like chat up called Shhtub It's called Shih Tube And he's hard as hell You feel me

Okay Yeah, right? So when you see these documentaries, man, like how accurate do this shit be? I don't know a lot. Sometimes, maybe sometimes they be talking real shit. Sometimes they'd be off, like 50% I'll say 50-50 because they'd be saying,

sometimes they'd be saying some makeup shit just to make the shit sound better. Like, the fuck, nigga. How does it feel when you're watching something about like your neighborhood, your friends and there's just weird details that are totally wrong? That shit is crazy, bro. That shit has made me look at life like,

that shit, niggas watching small like, damn. Like, they're watching the wrong shit too. Like, negative shit like, damn, man. But that's what people like to see, though. I feel so, okay, we already discussed the current queen of Bronx, Joe. We got to talk about the up-and-coming queen,

potential future queen, murder B. There was this whole controversy because she was in one of your videos and now people are saying that that's hypocritical because she affiliates herself around DOA and meanwhile she was in your video. What's your attitude on that? You know like what Mays did?

I ain't gonna, I brought murder B outside, bro. I brought her to the scenery. She was from Boston. She was in Boston before she came to my video. I made her come. Nah. Slow down. Slow down, Adam.

Slow down. I ain't flying. I ain't flying. She got on the bus, the fuck you're talking about, nigga. That's hard, though. She got on the bus. He got on the bus,

She got her in the video She had a crib in the Bronx though But she was scared to go over there I don't know why I took the bus from Boston New York many times She pulled up bro And after that she gave me her old old She wanted to do music

And ever since she was with me It gave her to look I'm like fuck it Now now like they kind of like And screenshot it in that video And kind of like put like a peach over In her butt but like when the photo Was actually released

It wasn't like a bad book Nothing there's nothing there Now let's be real though bro Did did like what did you all Did like one of y'all cracked that night Who me? You are not Nah, no.

I ain't a lot. Did you are one of the guys like fuck, fuck, Murgham? No, I ain't fine. She wanted to, though. She wanted to fuck with your curve, then. Nah, yeah, I ain't. I ain't pressure on that. She's trashed.

She's catfish. Why her turn her down, though? She's catfish. You don't fuck with gang members? I got high standards when it comes to. She's too gangster? No, she's not gangster at all. She's soft.

Like, when you get around, she act like a hippie. Really? Like, hi. Like a hippie girl. Like, she's so soft. She's not like that. She's not like that at all. Like, she acts like a hippie.

I had people tell me she was really outside in the Bronx and shit, though. Outside with the niggas that's like that. They're going to treat her like that because she's a girl. Like, oh, come here, me and be out here. Now, no, yo, but like speaking about another, you know, like, queen of the Bronx, why are you trying to take curly Sav's, like, like, girl, man? Nah, I was just. I was fucking with him.

I was fucking with him. Now, listen, man, so, like, and he made Kenzel B. Now, Kenzel B is somebody who I, who I always say, bro. when the world finds out about her He made Kenzel B? No, no, no, no. I'm saying, right? Like, Kenzel B is somebody

who I, like, always bring up here, right? Like, when the world finds out about Cancel B, it's going to be done for you, right? Now, you made her your screen saviour. Oh, I ain't a lot yet. I was just toying with him, for me. He did some funny shit, though. Like, he was just saying some weird shit, bro.

I don't got no really, like, problems for Curly Side, bro. He's a corny nigger, bro. He's just funny. He got weird. It, like, mixed emotions towards me. Holes love him, though. I mean, I don't got, yeah, I don't got no problem.

I don't got no problem with that. I don't got no problem with that. I don't got no problem with me, for me, you know? Cool, nigga. I don't really listen to his music. I ain't going to say I never did. Yeah. But I don't really fun to see.

But I don't really fun to. Right. So, if Kenzel B would have given you any type of, like, static and playback, would you have, like, you know? Nah, bro, that's the ops, bro. Man, come on, man. I was just fucking around, bro, that's the ops. Mm.

But, like, speaking of, of, like, ops though. Now, a content creator? No, is Cici a content creator or just like a... The Cici show? Yeah. That nigga is like, what do you? Everything. He does everything.

You know, he plays ball. He hosts gambling shit. He does this ligger. He does everything. IG comedian now. Everything. Now, he said when he's seen you in Miami and he asked you, are you blockwork and you said, no, I'm not block work.

But what a bro? I ain't going to lie. He said that before I went to Miami. Damn. Like, when I went to Miami, the last time, that was the first time I went to Miami because I was on parole. I was on houseways.

All that shit out of me. I was locked up, bro. I just came home. I couldn't go nowhere. So I'm not experiencing the rapper life. I'm just on my block doing music, even though I made D&D. So there's somebody who really wasn't

blockwork claiming to not be blockwork? Nigger had glasses on the ski mask and he was shooting a video with the Matt 10, nigga, trying to act like me. And the nigga took him out of Iran. He got out there dressing all funny and shit. I don't dress like that, bro.

Cool. Yo, I go on line, man. You got on something like drip right now. This nigga told- this nigga had a deed-a- shit on and shit, bro. Dress like that, man. This niggas was looking stupid. He had sweat shorts on. I don't wear sweats shorts.

Wait, wait. Do you think the C.C. show, like, knew that and lied, or he really thought that he was you? Nah, no. Because he called me and then we was just chopping it up. I told him, he was like, aye. It was like a mis-confusion type shit. Like, he did that tone me. Another nigga relayed the message to him.

When he spoke to me, he everybody knew what he said, but I told him, bro, bro, look at me, bro. Look at me, bro. look at everything in my page. Yeah. Would I go to Miami and look like that? What the fuck? Yeah, fun.

I'll be in my crib, probably, jilling like that, looking like that. You fucking, nigga. Yo, listen, right? So, like, here's my last question for you, man. Like, what's the beef with Be loved, man? I ain't gonna lie.

Beleaf is just a funny nigga. You know what he did. He did some funny shit. What? Nigger, I don't know. He just always had a funny animosity towards me for nothing. Like, no cap when I made D&D,

he was jacking me. He was jacking my shit. You for me. I'm bro, nigga, like gangster, nigga. I was that ditty day. I was outside, you feel me? I was with them, niggas, you feel me? Nick, always used to listen to my shit,

but never want to see me and say you what stuff. Niggas be in the same area, playing dice. Nikes, niggas just be showing fake animosity, bro. So I just, I don't fuck with niggas. Even when I was fucking with EK, I was in fucking be love. Yeah, for real? No. We just see niggas and he just thought like clutching and some shit

like he got some shit like, I ain't scared to you, nigga. He's love, nigga. He love, nigger. Fuck him on, you. Right. So listen, right? So, like, be in love, I guess,

it's the first person I heard people, like, start calling, like, quote-unquote, like, free agent. Right? So, like, what's your take on? That niggas are, boy? Word of my mother. How are you fucking with niggas who's smoking your dad? Like, let's talk about that, gang.

Yeah. I cannot fuck with a nigga that's doing that. I'm cutting ties right there, bro. You're disrespecting, bro, you get. Canzo Bola? We just talking about him. Yeah. He'd be smoking Noah, y'allel, all these nigs.

Oh, man. They deal with, eh, they be together all the time. They be in video shoots together, everything, all that. how'd I work? I don't know. Can't ask me that. That's some funny industry shit. Like, what?

Wait. So you're not fine, though, of people calling you a free agent as well and virtual in the same category. I don't care about a free agent. I love it. I'm a free agent.

I like being a free agent. Matt 10 said, though... I don't need a team. Now, listen, so like... I got my team. I know. Nah, but like Matt 10 said, though, you can't be...

a free agent if you're not in the league. Angle, I've been in the league before. What's your response to that, man? I've been in the league before all these niggas, bro. Like, I've been, you feel me? I've been through so much shit where it was just like an up and down type of shit for me, losing Instagram and shit.

But I've been here before these niggas, bro, and I'm on that shit with these niggas, bro. Niggas can't show me more streams, than me, bro. Niggas be having it on YouTube, whatever, but they should not, they don't got real fans. Yeah. They're going to Spotify.

They should be having like 1,000 fuck streams. Like, what? Bro, like, bro, listen, I, I see some shit though, but like, I'm not going to say like who, right? But I've seen like some nigga, I think it was like 1,500, like, monthly listeners, right? But, like, the YouTube was like up like $200,000. So that's how I knew that she was fake. I wonder that about Joe rappers, how they do on streaming services because, like, the YouTube shit will be lit. But I feel like a lot of it might not be that big on streaming services.

I feel like me, for me, it's the timing. Get it out there at the same time, promote both of them. You'll always get the same. If you know what you're doing, you will always get the same, or a little less reciprocation. Because, you know, it's a video. The video will probably hit the middle. You have 100,000 plays on it.

It's going to add up a little bit. You just got to keep, it's the algorithm. So if you just keep fucking with it, should have built on the zone. And when you get in a certain type of listeners, they put you in a different bracket with people. Now they put in you in different playlists and shit. Now you're getting free plays.

So how do you feel about where your music is going? Like, could you see yourself dropping a whole project that kind of goes away from the drill shit, or do you feel like you still got your feet in it? Hell, yeah, I ain't gonna lie. I feel like dropping a mixtape like six, six drill songs, six like six, okay.

Six not drill songs. Because I feel like nobody could do it like me. I feel like nobody be paying attention to it. But I really could drill rap without drill rapping, if you know what I'm saying, you know. I use the beats, I talk about whatever I'm talking about, but I kind of make it like more sentimental

and happy for people, for me. It's not always got to be negative, you feel like, if you can't make a song using your vocabulary, really talk about what you want. want what you've been through. You're not really a rapper. You might be a drill rapper, but you're not really an artist, bro. You got to be an artist nowadays, bro.

Got to get bigger. Can't be stagnant, bro. That drill shit, just doing Joe every day is being stagnant, bro. I could do drill all day with these dicks. I could talk about how many niggas I'm smoking, bro. It's too many diggers. Yo, wait, listen. I was going to ask it, but then I'm like,

okay, that may be too far. You feel me? Because he's smoking it right now. I was going to ask, you know, you know. Who's in the split? No, no, yeah. Now, but what should take on this though? So, like, and UG's dropped Dottiebop?

Now, when you heard that, he's just hurt. He's just hurt. Who, Yuz? Yeah. That's his man's. Yuz really don't like us because he just hurt. Now, listen, right?

So look, though, right? So I almost got in trouble because I think U.G. He's called, like, Black Work a snitch like during our interview. Yeah, his ugly African eyes. And like, I laughed, you feel me?

Right? Where's... Bro, listen, I'm just the happy... Like, a lot of dead fuck with African niggas, though, bro. Like, if I was... If I wasn't his off, he would dad fucking me. Not a year, you feel me?

Yeah, right. I'm telling you, bro. It's just because I'm with these niggas, bro. Wolladi was his man's. Oh, damn. So it was forever up, you feel me? So that's why he did that to Dottie. He was, like, hype and you know,

Dodd. It was just like a get back, feeling. Like, they never got back. So when that innocent shit happened, they just was happy, bro, you feel? Yeah. Everybody wanted to beat that, bro. My son just got a good deal, 40K, roly, all that.

He was... Mad young, too, feel me? Going up, bro. Going up. Yo, listen. So, like, one thing to think, right, that, like, I'd be thinking about, right? Is when you watch these, like, music videos, it's the editors be having personal beefs, too, bro.

Because I'm watching Doddy Bob, and it just feels like the editor went out of his way to be as disrespectful as possible. Now, do y'all have beefs, like, with the editors, too, man? I don't know. I feel like camera men's just nowadays, really. We're trying to stand out. Yeah. Trying to go crazy.

Like, there's so many cameramen, so it's like, why do the same shit? Yeah. So I feel like they just taking it on their self to- But that is crazy though. If you're the editor, you could put a bunch of shit in the video and make it like way more disrespectful. And then somebody could want to turn you into a pack.

Yeah. I never thought about that. Certain people do take that shit to the all, but I don't really care. You do your job, bro. Just do it what it's my turn? Do it. Would you have beat with a producer?

Mm-mm. If somebody like, say somewhere I would put out a gnarly diss song about you, hurt your feelings, et cetera. The worst shit ever, but then the producer is just, you catch him lacking. It's not the producer's fault. Okay, it's not their fault. That's not his fault.

It's not his fault. He booked him. He's doing his job, bro. I can't bet. You got to feed. Whoever you got to feed, bro. It's on the rapper, bro. He came out of your mouth, man.

That's on with you. Diggas on. Yeah, but now, but look, man, and in the words of Adam 22, I don't have any more op questions, man. So, like, what's next, man? It's looking real opi outside.

What's next, man, like, you know, like, for example, like where do you see yourself, for example? In five years, like, what would you have to do for your career not to be a failure? I don't know, I'm just got to really, right now I'm just battling on me. It's just me versus me right now, you feel me? I don't got nobody in my way, you feel me?

I got the bowl in my court, so I'm just doing what it is for me to kick down the doors. Once I kick down them doors, you feel like, I get where I need to get. I feel like it's over, bro, with that machine, that computer behind me. Like, I'm already doing this shit organically by myself. No gang, no promotion, nobody.

I'm not paying people to post my shit for me. Like, this is just me. My name, my face. I could sell out a show with 10,000 tickets, you, for me. I just need done for that. So when I kick down them doors, I feel like five years, shit, man. You know, me see me doing songs with everybody I want to do songs with, you feel me?

Just because I'm a Harlem, nigga. Like, I'm like, you know what Jim Jones if he's still rapping. You know, if I mean. Can't Mike? You feel me? Maybe if they're still doing it. I five years. Shit.

I got it like, that's just my dreams and shit. I'll do it. Now, listen, I definitely want to see you and A's at Rocky right because it's like,

I think my French is coming right now and just signing up, you know, like, you know, and all the Bronx niggas, like, maybe Rihanna got a homegirl you can knock up.

Yeah, man. I fuck with how Drake like, was paying attention to the drill scene a little bit. That my son died. He was early.

Did he do that. He kind of fell back. He did that naked shit that was fired. He fell back, though, right? Because wasn't there, like, rumors? Like, and he flew Ice Spice out trying to, like, give her a deal. That killed drill for him? That killed drill for him?

He don't even matter, bro. He's showing love, bro. He don't got to do that. He's showing love, bro. But there's a million. We don't know what the fuck happened with him in Ice Spice. They might have had a regular old hangout. Yeah, whatever happened, that shit.

For sure, she ain't talking about it. She probably got a good Indian. She ain't never seen anything about that shit. That's how. Yeah, that makes me think. she's a real bitch because she could say whatever about him well i guess probably not drake you for me probably got a good india yeah i'm gonna anybody would or any girl would have written over his that's on about that you feel me he's good at keeping like remember when that

girl came out saying all that crazy shit about him a couple months ago and he actually had to deny it the girl that was talking about whatever that that was like that was something hot sauce on a con yeah but when you really think about it it it was like for how many chicks we know dragg has kicked it with over the years you ain't really heard almost any of them really like you'll hear him talk about but it's usually positive. I hear girls be like, yeah, he was a good guy, he's a nice guy. He probably be fucking with the foreign bitches

that can't speak English and shit. I mean, yeah. That's a good method. It's like, it's like, they don't know nothing. They just be lost. That's a strong method. They be lost. But I'm gonna be real, like,

I heard a bunch of people diss you on this podcast before I had really giving your music a fair shot. And when I listen to it, I was like, this shit's hard. For sure, you belong on. Anybody who fucks with real music? Throw some blockwork on your playlist.

Yeah, man. Yeah, listen. And do you feel like Flok will be too messy, man, like doing his interviews? No, I ain't going to lie. You just, you'd be spicing it up, bro. I ain't going to lie. You spice it up, you ask the questions that people don't expect a head, bro. That's what they need in here, though.

Fuck it. That's crazy when we do an interview and then you see like... It's actually like, when you see it, it's like, I need to get up there now. Well, there'll be 20 fucking mean pages just making, like, clips about every single interview we do. And they're all New York drill pages. I'm just like... Yo, listen. No.

I hope some of them watch the whole thing, but... Now, listen, I'm jacking N. Y. Drill official. That's the homie. I've been talking to him. That's the page. That's the homie right there. So they're valid?

Yeah, definitely. I ain't going to lie. Now, listen, though, right? Now, and, like, he's been getting us to try to get four-one up here, man. So, like, I was to- They canceled their flights the other day. I know, right?

What's the one question? I should ask Kyle Rich what Kyle Rich come in there. Actually, does he go get his jewelry back? Damn, all right? I asked him. Is he going to get a... Shit, okay. Well, damn.

Well, listen, man. In New York, drill, official... Make sure you ask them that from me, you heard. They post a lot of shit that I look at and I'm like,

damn, I wouldn't have posted it. It's a little bit too. A little too... Please don't lack? They got their page sticking down. That's the craziest page they post. Oh, for real? They post all the, like, the...

I think I used to follow that. It's probably a clone that came back, right? They post whatever. Whatever you post. They post it actually. Oh, no, listen. Nah. I fuck with Swayzey too, right?

Because, you know, right? Quazes the goat, he's hilarious. You feel what I? And, like, he's your love, too. Plus, those are, too, like, you know, and he's seeing my, like, Bronx Real Freestyle, you feel me? You feel me?

And he said, yo, like, this shit could go up, you know? Wow, I believe in you, too, damn. I want him to show his face. He always had in his face. Swayzy? Yo, so I told him to, like, come up here and just wear, like, a mask and shit, you feel me? I tried to get him to meet up when I was in New York, too.

Oh, really? Hey, he said, nah. He knows. He knows if he comes outside, they're going to turn him into a bagel. Are you going to know Swayze, though? Okay. Does anyone?

Does anyone know? Somebody's got to know. No, bro. I feel like the day that Swayzee and shows his face, man, there's going to be like... People at his door, right? Oh, wait until Swamp Story.

He shows his face. Now, he's disrespectful. No, yeah. He's going to get killed by the cartel. He loves me, though. Yo, I focus on the Swamp Stories. You know, right? but, like, I think I heard the one about Jay Prince.

Now, that one was like, Oh my god, I remember what you're talking about too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's disrespectful. He could have a real problem in the streets for sure. Wildly, man. All right. Appreciate you. Blockwork.

I appreciate you for having me here, bro. It's a pleasure, bro. Much love, Doug. Everybody turn him up on streaming services, YouTube, all that. Tell him Adam 22 and Flacco sent you. Appreciate you, Doug. No jumper. Coolest podcast in the world.

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