No Jumper - Blueface on His Insane Tour, Wack100, Lena The Plug Onlyfans Collab & More

Episode Date: June 15, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:58 You're among fans. The Bloods love... Well, actually, now the Bloods don't come in and do interviews wearing blue, but the Crips come in wearing red. Yeah. What is that? They just feel like they won
Starting point is 00:01:08 so they can just wear whatever. Is that fucked up? Oh. How's Tor gone? You're about to be it back out. Did we start already? Yeah. Oh, shit, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:21 I usually just get right into it. I love that. I love that. It's the most casual podcast all of earth. I love that. That's how you get them. Yeah, yeah. You just start talking like, wait, do we start?
Starting point is 00:01:31 They already say it in the fashion. Well, I just low-key just the B team by accident. Right. If I edited it, I was for my sake. It's been going good. Been going good. All the venues have been nice. Yeah, Wack said that it was overall pretty successful.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Yeah, made a lot of money. Definitely. Yeah, I can't complain at all. But, I mean, it's like a different vibe, right? Because you're hitting some of the smaller markets that rappers don't necessarily always touch. Well. Big ones, too.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Yeah, yeah, there's some major cities, but as far as the cities-wise, I'm on probation, so I'm kind of slowly working my way to traveling. I don't get permission and shit everywhere I go, so it's like... So in your mind, is it like you're perfectly happy having the tour just be a crazy party the whole time, or are you at the point where you feel like you would rather have a little bit more of a controlled environment? Because obviously there's just so much bullshit that could happen. Um, shit. You know me? As long as they pan. Yeah. I perform in this motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Yeah. I'm sure you can tell you. We can fill this room with. Right. I was a simple guy. I'm kind of thinking more like when you're on the tour bus afterwards and stuff, because we've seen a lot of shit going down. Like we're with, you know, wag freaking out about different people saying different things and everything on tour.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Do you feel like that makes you want to control the circumstances more? What? Me personally? Yeah. It's just some ghetto shit. This is how it is. wouldn't be what it is if it wasn't for the people involved, you know? Right.
Starting point is 00:03:02 So I kind of let everybody have their own identity. But I feel like there's part of you that wants to just have everybody come back to the, every decent look at chick in the building. Come on, let's get on the bus. Let's party. Yeah. Well, I'm a little older now. So honestly, for me, I only bring the bitches back on the bus for the homies.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Oh, good. Usually I'm either with somebody or got some money. Right. I ain't on my every. every night trying to crack a bitch tip no more right so that really be you're just so in love that you just don't want to be
Starting point is 00:03:34 living that life anymore uh no no no I just I don't know I did it for a long time so now you just learn how to do it less problematically you see you don't see me and none of the right yeah see me and none of the clips none of these bitches in blue face nothing nothing
Starting point is 00:03:52 definitely I mean do you feel like you've been burnt enough times For sure. Like metaphorically and literally? Yeah, sure. Why you got the same hat on it? Right. What is that?
Starting point is 00:04:02 Run, niggas thinking like, you know. That's an interesting hat for you. Why? It's a little hat. Is it? Yeah, but it's bad, so you probably throwing you off. Okay. We wear the N-Y hats.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Do you? Because somebody on your team, oh, okay. Someone on your team was wearing like a different one. Like it was like an M instead of the N or something? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I asked him about it and he's like, I want to make sure that they know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Because, you know, a couple hoods wear this hat, so some of the hummys freak it like that, so you don't think it's all the other hoods. Okay. But this, I mean, you got to custom do that, you know? Right. To make it in it. Interesting. Spot the hat, it's not that serious, you know?
Starting point is 00:04:39 It's all on my face. Yeah, yeah, that's the fact. But you just got that with the Midtown right there? Maybe. Maybe. Maybe, maybe not. I got to do my history lessons on how the schoolyards do their shit, because there's some symbolism that I'm not used to.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Yeah, yeah. But so you're still adding, you're like finding every little pocket just like fit a few more things in there, huh? It's hard, huh? Yeah, I like it. It's coming together, right? There's part of me that wants to do that. Yeah, the collage of it. So the thing about the face tattoos, bro, it's like, I drew all of this shit before I got it.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Oh, yeah? On a piece of paper, you know, on my face. You drew your own face and then mapped out where everything was going to fall? Exactly. Wow. So everybody thinks it's just some like, what the fuck-ass thing, man. This is actually, man. Plot it out.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Probably a lot of people think that it's just. just random. Yeah. But that's why it's coming together, though, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Do the final touches, it's like, okay, now I see it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:32 But I like it. I mean, I feel like the prime era of face tattoos for rappers was the, the era in which if someone had a new crazy face tattoo, you could reliably assume that they were on Xanax when they got it. But you got a different style going. Yeah. I remember that era. You're talking about, like, Lil Zan and shit.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Yeah. Yeah, he got some crazy shit. I don't know. I kind of feel like it just depends on the lifestyle you live in, you know? Yeah. If you live in my type of lifestyle, okay. It looks less like rock star, Zanish. We interpreted it a different way, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:08 You know what I mean? So I think that has a lot to do with how some people come off with it. Definitely. It doesn't hit the same. Yeah. My shit looks tight, though. It is. There's just so much to look at.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Yeah. The bitches love it, bro. Yeah. Maybe. Ditches love it. Because, like, there was a dude who got Anne Frank tattooed on his face. Yeah. I didn't even have to ask if he was on Zanz when he got that.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I just knew. Yeah. There's no way you would do that if you weren't fucking loaded. Yeah. I don't know about Ann Frank. Anne Frank was like a fucking, in World War II, she was like a Jewish girl who had to, like, hide in an attic for like years to hide from the Nazis, right? And his name was Zan Frank.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Maybe because of that. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. When you say the story, it makes more sense. So, okay, there was a bunch of different accusations going on on the tour, but it wasn't about you. It mostly seemed like it applied to, like, some of the security dudes, maybe even one of the DJs got some dirt thrown on them at one point?
Starting point is 00:07:10 Yeah, man, I don't know, man. I don't know. I don't be around to see how these accusations are drawing up. Okay. Or to see the inappropriate parts of what these women are saying. So, I don't know, seems kind of like a trend at this point, though. Yeah. I haven't seen anything that actually stuck.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Right. So. I mean, but it's got to be a concern for you because even if you're not involved, you've got to be at least thinking like shit. What if they end up trying to sue me or do some shit like that, right? Um, how can you shoot me if somebody else doing something to you? Well, I always tell the dudes are with me, like, please do not beat anybody's ass. Because if you do, then I know I'm getting sued.
Starting point is 00:07:53 sue you though. For sure they can. You think so? If it's like you're employed. If it's here, if it's here. For sure here, but. If you guys are out just in public, I don't think if your friend does something to somebody, they're going to be, like, I can sue at him.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Legal grounds, like, you know. It might not be the best case, but I feel like they're going to sue you. And before you know it, you're probably more of a public thing, then. Well, that, but then you're also going to spend so much money on legal bills before it even gets to court that it's like, if they want to sue you, they can kind of put enough pressure on you that you might be tempted to settle. some shit. Yeah, I don't really be thinking like that to be honest, but that's good insight. As far as the what the lady said about these guys, I ain't in the room and I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:34 So I can't even say who's right, who's wrong, justify or debunk it, to be honest. Do you give your homies like any game about just what you expect from them when you're out on the road, like up to including the security or do you give them any kind of ground rules? No. Not really? No, what the fuck? I'm doing my own thing, bro. I don't even be like, you know?
Starting point is 00:09:01 I'm not just standing and sitting with these like, you know? We interact, of course, but I don't know. It is weird though. Yeah. I haven't even thought about it until you brought it up. Right. Because, you know, I haven't thought about it past, it going past the bus. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:18 So hearing you talk about it makes me think differently. Maybe I will say something. Like, I got to talk to some of the dudes who are on tour with you because I've seen them fucking around with girls with Fupas. Yeah. Crazy Fupas, man.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Spend some interesting, some interesting ladies on the bus. She, like, he ate me out. I mean, hey, the homies is ugly as fuck though, you know? Yeah, okay. You got to have some options. So what I do is, I know I can get some fucking regardless.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Yeah. So I'll try to bring as many as, many females back for my associates. Right. Not for me. So when you see all those girls behind me, I probably left soon as we got back to where we was going. But are you gonna tell like a big fat, ugly ass girl?
Starting point is 00:10:05 Like hey, come back with me because I got an ugly ass homie. Nah, usually they go on, usually the ugly ones coming with somebody, you know? Okay, they find their way. You know? You know, it's always an ugly girl in a pack. We're not just picking the ugly one like, yeah, you, you ugly, the homie ugly, come on.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Sometimes the hottest one got a fat friend. You feel me? Shit, but you know. Ugly sex, man. What's wrong with ugly sex? You know, us normal mere mortals, like, that's pickup artist shit. It's like, if you see, like, three hot girls and one ugly-ass girl, you go to the ugly girl. You make her like you.
Starting point is 00:10:39 You don't got to do this shit. But, like, you make her like you, and then she won't try to salt your game with the other ones. Yeah, you know a little something. I've heard this. Yeah, that's a real trick, though. Talk to the ugly one, make the other ones a little jealous. Yeah. And then they get the one you want by just not even going after.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Yeah. I've been off the market for 10 years now. You still fucking now? I'm still fucking. But we'll make sure off the market. I just got to do it in a different way. Like if I want a girl, I can't just like DM her and be like, yo, I'm trying to fuck it.
Starting point is 00:11:10 I got to be like, hey, babe, we should set up a shoot with her. And, you know. Last player, though. That works. I like that. I like that idea. I might use that one. Now, but fucking off camera is way better.
Starting point is 00:11:23 She set up a shoot with her. Yeah, see? All right, let's try that one. Yeah. But, um. We try that one on you, girl. She's not feeling that one. Damn.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Oh, yeah. But she's into threesomes? Yeah. Nevia. Yeah. She's off camera, but she's open-minded about that? Yeah, we've talked about it. Where does she's not in the mood?
Starting point is 00:11:45 Because she just, like, sit back in a recliner and sort of watch you do your thing with a girl? Personally. I'm not even a threesome type, like... Really? Like, instinctively, you know? I prefer to just focus on one person. In one setting, I'm getting fucked up, I'll hit a bitch after a bitch,
Starting point is 00:12:03 but I'm saying, like, if I could separate it, that'd be better. In that moment, though, man. There's nothing like fucking a girl while you're eating another girl's ass. Yeah, yeah, that's true, too, but, like, it's a lot of work, you know? Yeah, I feel it, but... When you can go into a threesome, you got to... to go in with a mindset of like you really got to coach yourself through it you can't nut too fast you got to evenly it's not as fun as you just thrashing one bitch just you know i feel like you're
Starting point is 00:12:32 probably down and nut too fast like you don't you're not tripping out like oh i only gave her five minutes uh no i try to i try to try to put on a good demo yeah yeah i try to leave with good results you know okay good reviews that's good yeah i think that's important yeah definitely you know that's when they're gonna throw an allegation on you is when you don't make her nut that's true too that's probably that's the security's problem on the store oh you seen that story it could have made her nut through the fooper man yeah he didn't even make me nut yeah yeah that'll do it that'll set a bitch off bro if you're trying to nut while you're fucking a rapper after the show you came to the wrong place this is about me yeah yeah but if you're in the security you probably wanted that
Starting point is 00:13:16 yeah you probably just you probably just you probably just you probably just just was like last resort like i came for a nut tonight yeah i can't get him so i'm that's crazy then you don't get it that's probably yeah baby cubing rob because blueface is occupied is crazy i don't actually know if he was laying in right no names what that fuck so bad rob's my boy i don't think he was doing any of that though no no no he's he's a solid guy um so what was your favorite city what was the most turns up city most turn city uh uh I think Denver was probably one of them. Sacramento.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Those two are probably the most turn. White crowd or black crowd? Who has more enthusiasm? It's crazy. I don't know. My crowd's a lot diverse. It'll be a lot more females there than anything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:12 So it's more feminineish than white or black. I mean, does that make sense? I mean, I feel like having a large female audience is probably just good for the vibes overall. No, it's great. The guys who do go, that's the environment they want to be in. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:14:27 So the guys are only going, probably because of the girls are going. Right. I don't think they actually coming like, oh, I want to go see Blueface. You don't think? I think it's like a bunch of bitches like, like, bitch, we're going to see Blueface tonight
Starting point is 00:14:37 and they're just in the car like shit, I'll go. Right. Yeah. But, bro, I'm always defending me. When people try to act like Blueface is just a social media person, I'm like, now, you got joints. He got, like, hit records that a lot of the rappers
Starting point is 00:14:49 that you guys act like are serious artists have no hits. I haven't even made it that far yet. Don't even... Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how that side of the business works. So I don't even... You know, I don't care about no...
Starting point is 00:15:04 In top 50 less or none of that. You can search my shit up and literally see... You can compare this to that. And I think you'll be surprised just based off that. Just go to RIA certifications. Type in the artist that you think is like way cooler than Blueface and then type mine's in, and then you'll be, you know, I think you'll be surprised.
Starting point is 00:15:22 But do you think you could make, like, Kendra Llamar, fancy-pants-ass, smart guy music if you wanted to? Yeah. I mean, yeah. I've made songs in that direction, but that's not me, though, you know? It's just not your vibe. It's not my vibe, you know.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Early Ratchet turn up bitches. I like bitches, so I make music for the bitches. Wait, but so what's the plan musically right now? Like, are you going to drop a project? this year? I'm not sure. I haven't even came up with a music playing, bro. I've been doing that shit for so long.
Starting point is 00:15:59 It's not even like, what else can I do, you know? You're so nonchalant about it. Yeah. For us who actually like you as a rapper, and in particular, I want to hear you make, like, street music and not, you know, the booty shaking shit's cool, but, like, I want to hear more on the deadloaks or stuff of that nature. It feels like you just don't really have the same passion.
Starting point is 00:16:20 for it that you might yeah it's like i've done everything what i will that would just be me redoing everything over you know i didn't went top 10 i didn't did over xy z streams work with this person work with that person i'm so like what am i supposed to do redo all that over for you to say i mean you could say that to like anybody in the game you could say like drake why the fend three albums out you already put out a million albums why you put more albums out you know yeah but see what people don't understand there's a lot of circumstantial stuff behind the music or being viral or famous, you know? Right.
Starting point is 00:16:54 For example, he might have put that out to get out of a situation. True. So as you, a consumer, you just, oh, my gosh, three and it's this and it's that whole time. Yeah. Changing their whole circumstance behind the scene. So it's like, I don't know. My circumstances aren't based off music. I think, like, strategically, his mentality is that he'll sacrifice a bunch of other shit to focus on the music.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Like, he won't do music. or movies he won't like go crazy on social media or like do a lot of the things that he probably could do to make a lot of money because he wants to just make it all about the music whereas i feel like with you your attitude is like i'm trying to make money and have fun and the music is just one part of that and and really it kind of probably feels inefficient to you yeah i mean so my whole um thing with this life sure i want to get paid the most amount of money i can get paid by doing the least amount of work that I can do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:49 So if I can get paid to be myself to do what I'm going to do tomorrow regardless, if I'm going to argue with this bitch for free and y'all going to pay to sit, that's me right there. I'll sign me up, man. You feel me? Absolutely. I'd rather do that than to go in the studio and sit and make a song and, you know. Because if you make a song, like, the amount of money that that song is worth in your head,
Starting point is 00:18:15 the fans think when they see a song with a million views they think oh my god you got rich off that yeah not at all and then it's a timely thing you know yeah music is a timely thing music is not something that you could hustle at and see results every day music is a thing you put a song out okay you wait x y z amount of time promote it and within that time you know you're seeing some residuals but it's not it's not it's not popping up to a 20 versus one and just getting 10 bands and then walking out you know It's more like 10, like, you know, it may make half a million dollars over the course of the whole year off this one. So I'm going to do that. Just, you know, just doing some regular shit, literally on Twitch, on stream, oh, fucking Zeus Network or, you know, anywhere else.
Starting point is 00:19:03 If I could do that within six months, you know. I don't know. I'm just leveraging it out. But as far as the music go, shit, I got enough accolades in that department to where. I'm not gonna just keep I want to do other shit too but when you interact with like really huge artists like when I saw you
Starting point is 00:19:24 going out on stage with Cardi is there something little part of that that kind of makes you feel like ah maybe I should chase this shit a little bit harder just because you know she's somebody who's been obviously working her ass off all these years and her performing at those giant fucking venues is kind of assign all the hard work
Starting point is 00:19:40 you put in no I'm performing there too You get what I'm saying? Like that's where I'm saying. That's how I am with the shit is like, all right. Regardless of who's on the bill or selling the place out, if I'm performing here, you perform here. And you're asking me to come and perform here.
Starting point is 00:20:00 I'm good with that. Cardi, be asking me to come perform on her big stage? Do you think I give a fuck to go make my own big stage? I mean, of all the L.A. rappers she could have hit up, too. It was pretty dope. You're the one who's there. You really couldn't remember the worst of your own. song because you were so entranced by her ass?
Starting point is 00:20:17 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Personally, I didn't think she was going to be as... Voluptuous? Intimate, you know, involved with me performing. So it just kind of surprised me a little bit. I mean, I was in the crowd, and I was pretty mesmerized by her butt the whole time, too, and she was moving. She was looking at me like all that was shit.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Yeah. The fuck. I mean, yeah, that's an ass, man. When they started saying she was going to get it removed, I was like, that is a fucking national tragedy. All right. We can't allow that. Yeah, you know, shaking it, looking at me and shit, I'm like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Should I perform or should I get that butt? Yeah, no, definitely. Okay, so do you, were you concerned at all about the fact that there was multiple different clips that came out of whack getting into some squabbles on the tour? He is the manager, but he's also in the mix. Yeah. Yeah. me personally if he could avoid it I would prefer it but I mean it's good for content you know
Starting point is 00:21:20 I think I'm just like super like content out the game maybe maybe that's what it is because even the shit that you bring up I'm like shit it's conversation that's funneling into maybe the tour or bringing awareness to certain things that's like shit I don't see
Starting point is 00:21:42 how it could go against me as long as I'm not personally partaking, you know? Right. Maybe it's some jail shit, I don't know. Yeah. That's how it is in jail. It's like, if it's not you, my own fucking business. Right. And when he explains the situations to me, it is pretty, like, understandable how some of this shit goes down.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Like, when he was talking about the guy who wouldn't get off the stage and, like, to him, that wasn't the club owner. That was just a random dude. And nobody at the venue told him that this was one of the club owners. He's looking at this random guy on stage, like, bro, get the fuck out of my face. Like, we're here to perform, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, you know, things happen just like communication and whatnot as well. So, I will say he could do better with stuff like that, you know.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Because people are always, like, super curious about the nature of your relationship with whack and how close you guys actually are. Oh, you know, we're super close, man. We made a lot of money together. Yeah. So it's deeper than rap, you know? Right. We did so much shit. He didn't introduce me to new revenues.
Starting point is 00:22:50 I didn't introduce him to new revenues, you know, boxing and reality. And just little shit to where it's like, it's more like a good cop, bad cop type relationship, you know. Right. He might be the dude to walk in. So he is a cop. You just don't know if he's a good or a bad one? Yeah. He retarded.
Starting point is 00:23:08 I could just immediately picture all the reactors. matching on to that one. Nah, nah, nah. Since just an ideology of our relationship, it's like he may be the one to slap the fuck out of you and I'm going to be the one like, my bad, bro. I ain't know he was going to do that.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Has there ever been a time in which you thought about going your separate ways with whack or where it came close to that? No, I wouldn't know where to go. Really? Yeah, it would be like if I were to try to find a manager today, it would take me, how long do you think to know
Starting point is 00:23:41 really how if he's making me better or worse making the situation better or worse you know it's a risk with that as well there's a lot of people who just actually think that you guys either like don't work together anymore right now or that it's like on the brink of
Starting point is 00:23:56 falling apart but you're saying that that is not really an option let this shit bro what the f***um like no I don't have no intentions ideas of changing managers or situations
Starting point is 00:24:10 The situation has got me this far Until I start losing dramatically Then I reevaluate But if I'm winning Why would I change the And people don't see a lot of the stuff That he does do behind the scenes Like in particular when we're out to the club together and stuff
Starting point is 00:24:30 And you're kind of seeing the way that he's like Operating this whole thing It is kind of like, ah man You need a big asshole To get in between everything that could happen here It's the music industry, you need an asshole that's because you can't do it. If you're like the face of what everybody's coming to see. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Or else then it would just make me look bad, you know? Right. So if you got somebody who's willing and who's actually has the muscle and who's capable of not making it a loss publicly to where it's like, oh, he gets his ass kicked or something because he's, you know. That would be the much worse side. Him beating up random people is kind of not so great, but like him getting beat up would be way worse. Yeah, it would make us. So it's like, all right, you got that, you know.
Starting point is 00:25:12 I'll let you do your thing. So that's why I say it's like, okay, he may, there's two of us regardless, you know? So the wins is double and the losses are split in half. Right. Has there ever been a time where he was saying anything online that you felt uncomfortable about because sometimes it bounces back
Starting point is 00:25:29 and, like, kind of reflects on you? Yeah, all the time. All the time. I'll give you that one. Okay. I won't deny that, but. But I mean, that's everybody. Even you guys.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Yeah. Sometimes you guys say certain things that, but I know you guys are just like, you know, y'all just blogging. Y'all don't get the circumstances to shit, you know, just like as if, y'all saying the tour may be a smaller, intimate West Coast,
Starting point is 00:25:53 not as whatever is whatever, but the circumstances to that is I have criminal issues that prevent me from even, you know? So to you, it may sound like, oh, it's not even, but it all makes sense to me, you know, so you got to have that,
Starting point is 00:26:08 that sense of like, the matter what they say, I know the truth to where I don't have to, it doesn't bother me. Right. Now, I'm a blueface maxer, though. Anybody who tries to talk down on your career, I'm always jumping in there. Yeah, because you kind of. Some hosts for sure. We'll try to paint negative narratives.
Starting point is 00:26:23 They'll try to make it seem like, oh, this or that, it's not working. It's, right? It's been like 10 years. What do you mean? It's not working. And I like that shit, too, because I feel like performing at venues to smaller crowds or whatever in less populated areas. I mean, like, you got, I come more from.
Starting point is 00:26:40 like the hardcore band world. Yeah, yeah, it's that type of vibe. They take a lot of pride in that. I'm going to the city. I'm playing for 50 people. I don't give a fuck I'm playing the music because I love the music. Yeah, no. And I'm getting paid regardless of, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:26:52 These dudes are losing money to go on tour and a lot of these bands and they're just doing it because they love it. And these bigger places that you, I don't know. I mean, I can, all these places have been sold to the max. So it's not like I can't do bigger places. It's not. So I don't even know how people's brain goes to. Okay. It's a smaller place, but there's people everywhere, so you could obviously go more.
Starting point is 00:27:15 You can, you know, maybe it's something deeper to why it's here, instead of it just being like, oh, it's not as this. It's 10 years later, bro. Right. Why would you, like, you know, like, there's some shit you talk about with somebody who's up and coming. Yeah. Oh, he's touring and there's certain, certain, this is 10 years later. Yeah. It's not the time for a motherfucker's trying to critique.
Starting point is 00:27:38 The motherfucker's been doing this shit for 10 years. Right. Too late, bro. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Especially, like, you go on tour. Like, if you perform in, like, a smaller city, I mean, the idea is to create a career that is going to work for 20 years, 30 years.
Starting point is 00:27:53 And if you keep going back to these same cities, you keep having, like, a better crowd each time. You develop, like, a real fan base. I feel like there's a ton of value in that, you know? For sure. Bro, I've done world tours. I've done touring with young Miami, a little baby, all the shit.
Starting point is 00:28:05 I did all that shit. So I didn't. It's like, you know, I just don't get the point of doing shit over and over and over and over and over and over and over. When do I do something else? Right. You know, so it's like, I don't know. It's not my first tour. It's not my second tour.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Not my third tour. Not even my fourth tour. Right. It's like a dick of tip tour. Yeah, yeah. What the fuck are we talking about? But do you like it? Because you're actually enjoying the lifestyle, I feel like.
Starting point is 00:28:34 That's the part I like about it. It's like, I don't have to work all the time. I get to, like, hang out and smoke weed. The best part about it, it's, you get paid to party. You feel like a big baby because everything's kind of taken care of. You don't have to think about anything. I get paid to party, bro. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:50 You get on the bus, they take you to the next city. Party. You don't got to worry about where to get food. Somebody are going to bring you to somewhere to get food. Party. You know, there's girls everywhere. Party. It's kind of hard to go back to normal life after touring for a little bit.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Yeah. I love it. I mean, it's cool. It gets tiring, though. It becomes a job just like anything else. after a couple weeks. You get exhausted. For sure.
Starting point is 00:29:12 But it's worth it. After every party you get paid, what the fuck? We're just partying, bro. Right. I mean, on a bus, driving places to party. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:29:20 What, did anything change in your mind after the most recent brand risk fight? Because I feel like I haven't really seen you train in boxing. Did anything change in your mind? Oh, after my fight? Yes. No, no, no, about the most recent brand risk.
Starting point is 00:29:34 No, no, no, about their last event. The one with Ray J and shit? Mm-hmm. Because I remember you tried to say what my claims weren't valid or now I'm kind of realizing you actually watch the podcast, which is interesting. Of course. But, uh, and so to see a cycle, a pattern, has your ideas changed about it. Okay. You hear a lot of commission talk.
Starting point is 00:29:58 What you and Ray J did was very different. But me personally, no, no, it's not. My personal thing is all this commission talk that they do, bro, is false, brother. You don't think the commission is really in there? No, no. I don't think that they're, like, I don't think that that's a reason for a lot of the things that they say is the reason for. Okay. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:22 So if you're saying, hey, we had this, but the commission wouldn't approve it. Okay. Did they really not approve it? Or is that you just putting something in front of your decision and the way that you want things to go? Okay, so you're saying that like maybe Ruga getting rejected by the commission in terms of fighting you. Oh, I knew that was a lie. So you don't believe that? You think they just wanted to find a way to get you against somebody that was more of a challenge?
Starting point is 00:30:50 Do you think a commission will let a person that had a heart attack fight in a professional bout? Well, when did Rage actually have a heart attack? Does it matter? I don't know. I mean, a lot of people have raised that question, though. Do you think that any commission would say, oh, okay, your heart's not very well. Go in here and fight. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:08 When I thought, I had to do a whole series of heart scans and everything like that. So I don't think I could have got away with having a fucked up heart during that, which apparently Ray J has. No, I'm not saying the quality. I'm not saying it's not legit. I'm just saying there's a little manipulation going into the audience, you know? Interesting. So we're in this case and in this case, maybe two different cases.
Starting point is 00:31:34 It may be somebody saying two different things. Well, ultimately, you're saying, you know what I'm saying? You see what Aiden is saying, right? Aiden is saying... They're doing an investigation into the Ray J allegations. Okay, but the difference between you and Ray J. is that you finish the fight and you say, y'all are cheating.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Ray J. finishes the fight and says, I was trying to cheat and this motherfucker fucked it up. He never said any of that. He said, we had a plan. Who was we? Him and Super Hot Fire. Did he just save him in Super Hot Fire or did he say we? He did say we.
Starting point is 00:32:10 we means him and super hot fire we means a come on bro so you think him super hot fire and brandrester might have had a plan? I'm not saying any of that all I'm saying is what he said shine some light onto what I said
Starting point is 00:32:25 now if you guys want to keep trying to manipulate it and individualize it and make it seem like this is come on bro if the same conversation and allegation keeps coming from the same
Starting point is 00:32:40 person throwing the shit what are we talking about why are we trying to but I think Aiden Ross really wants to make brand risk this official ass thing and I don't think you would take the risk of doing anything like that
Starting point is 00:32:53 because it's going to get in the way of it I'm not saying he is don't get my words Mr. McGruth I'm not saying he's he's the mastermind to it all I'm saying is he's not avoiding it right you're not gonna
Starting point is 00:33:08 me Personally, I'm not going to throw an event and make a bet on the event. Right. Or pick a side on my own event. That's mistake. Although it was for a pretty trivial amount of money, right? 10 grand or something? 20.
Starting point is 00:33:22 20, yeah. Plus, he tried to bet some money 180. Whoa. I didn't know about that. That's what I'm saying. It's a lot that's like, it's just a lot of loose ends, you know? If you're trying to make a brand, a big thing to where my f***ers don't question. the credentials of it, you can't be the reason, you know?
Starting point is 00:33:44 Yeah. I'm not fin of, I just don't understand that. You know, like, I'm not going to throw in a big-ass event, bro, and pick aside. And then the day, it's my event, right? This person's here for my event. This person's here for my event. Why the fuck if I'm, you know, business.
Starting point is 00:34:05 This is business, bro. It's just common sense, bro. That doesn't make sense. Did you get paid for that fight? Nope. Nothing. Still hasn't hit, it came to me. Are you guys going back and forth?
Starting point is 00:34:17 Yeah, you know, they're doing their, their, um, negotiating and whatnot, but. Okay. Here it is another event, bro. I'm telling you, real, when, when you, when you don't do things correctly from jump, it's a downhill effect. Do you think you fucked up by not putting the Rain bed logo on your shorts, which they claim you were supposed to? no that's a relevant part of it uh that's a maybe a reason for a deduction okay maybe a fine right that's not a reason not to pay or else you shouldn't let a motherfucker even enter the building if it's that serious right i mean i guess from their perspective it's actually probably good because
Starting point is 00:34:56 then they can just say hey we're not going to pay you after the fact like i don't know brand risk would agree but exactly but listen to how that sounds that sounds like finesse right that sounds like shriesty business right well it would have been hard to add the rainbow at the last minute too Is it that serious or not? We're talking about a large amounts of money. We're not talking about bullshit. But day of the fight, how are they going to add the logo? They don't got a screen printer in the warehouse, right?
Starting point is 00:35:20 If it's that serious, what do you mean, Adam? But they know it's on you. Adam, if it's on you, okay, you find a person. Right. But my point is if it's that serious for you to outright, then you shouldn't let them fight outright. Has this soured you on boxing in general? where you're just kind of like, man, fuck that shit.
Starting point is 00:35:40 No, boxing is a, boxing is like the music industry. It's not what people think it is. It's actually very hard to get consistent fights. The more people you beat, the less people want to fight. It's hard to, you know, it's actually harder than the music industry. I didn't have at least three to four fights. Plan, flyers, didn't go up and it doesn't fall through. The Swaggy P1 was the most publicized one.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Exactly. And look, feel me, Aiden fucked that up for me as well. Wait, why didn't f*** that up? Because Swaggy don't want to fight because he saw that fight. Oh. So now he's like, damn, I don't want to fight him because he can actually, you know, he just went six rounds with this guy. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:23 And you can see, you know, you, if you watch somebody fight, bro, you, and you get the chance to decide if you want to fight them or not after, come on, you know? Yeah. Because I mean, despite the fact that you got a loss on that fight, you were, you looked really good at there. Like the fight was very, very competitive. Exactly. And you were, you were swangging. Post the fight is like, shit, all right.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Mm. So f***ed that off for me too. That's crazy because I just feel like Swaggy P, like, nobody gives a fuck if you're a good fighter or not. Like, just get in there and just do it. But nobody wants to embarrass them. Bro, nobody wants to sign up for a loss. We have people got kids.
Starting point is 00:36:59 People got, it's going to be wives and shit there, you know? Yeah. You got to think about the internal loss. Hmm. the videos and the edits and all that shit. It's an internal thing. Yeah, it is crazy too because I've heard that from a lot of people in the sort of celebrity boxing world where they're like,
Starting point is 00:37:16 yo, we book fights all the time and motherfuckers pull out like two weeks in advance, one week in advance all the time. The business, like it's not more profitable than music or anything. Right. And then shit like this happens, you know? Yeah. But I don't fight for free so many times then I don't go. Really?
Starting point is 00:37:35 Oh, like in jail. Yeah, just in general. To where it's like they think that they're making a proven-a-point or doing something by not paying or waiting to pay or negotiating the pay. They're not doing nothing but hurting their brand, bro. Would you say you're not a huge fan of Aiden Ross at this point? Is it all business?
Starting point is 00:37:56 It's always been business. Aiden was never my friend. We were never, I was never a fan. I came on the stream. I made a lit for him once or twice. and um you know i understand bro these streamers but they're not like they're caught up in the computer screen world you know right so when you reach out to them on certain occasions as if you would as if you regular associates they're not as um into it if it doesn't benefit their stream right yeah i mean
Starting point is 00:38:30 you see that all the time there's there's streamers who when i'm viral when i'm controversial They're all my d'all. They want to do everything. It's like they're not even real people at the end of the day. I'm in town three months later and hit him up as crickets. You know. You get used to this shit. Yeah, so it's been that type of relationship.
Starting point is 00:38:46 So I don't personally know his intent or, but I just, from me being a part of it, seeing it, that commissioner talk is manipulation to prove whatever they want to prove, to take the monkey off the back, you know what I mean? If it's like, oh, why didn't this happen and you get to say, oh, because the commission didn't approve it,
Starting point is 00:39:12 a motherfucker-naffin the question that. They're going to be like, all right, that's valid. Now what we got to do is start asking, oh, but the commission approved this? How is he fighting on the same card? Why can't he fight? He just whipped his ass, why he couldn't?
Starting point is 00:39:27 Right. He just had a heart attack, how to commission. And then, you know what I'm saying? It's like, to make this. A lot of people are skeptical of that shit in general because I have a few people hit me up today with the conspiracy theory of like Ray J's health is not bad and he's lying about it which I don't really believe that right? Well he's in the hospital it seems like it would
Starting point is 00:39:47 be weird to think of it. Come on. I don't know. I don't know everybody's starting to seem like very social like social media just like if it's if it's not that it's not real or something I I don't know. Who's a better friend on average, a streamer or a rapper from your experience? Or who's a realer? Probably a rapper. Yeah? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Do you have a little bit closer of a lived experience? Like, y'all have been through more similar shit on average? No, it's just more communicative, you know? Like, we're... More integrity? It's more like just me, me, me, you know? Yeah. Today, today, today.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Rappers is more like next week, next month, you know, maybe even next year. So that's what I could say. Streamer relationships is like today. After today, we might not ever talk with you. Rappers have to like care more about. Relationships. The integrity, the relationship, etc. Whereas, like, a lot of streamers get into crazy wild controversies and it's so not serious or personal to them.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Like, Vlad saw Aidan Ross and was like kind of weird. at first that Aiden might have beef with them because they had argued back and forth about some Jewish shit back a couple months ago or whatever and like Aiden just immediately was like Pratt, it's just content, it's all good. And Vlad was kind of surprised because he's used to dealing with rappers where shit is real
Starting point is 00:41:16 serious and personal a lot of times. Yeah, so it's all content for them, you know? You know, and I get like that sometimes too, but I don't know. I don't know how not to, like, if we do something successfully together, I don't know how to just forget about it or act like it didn't happen because I want more. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:41 I want to revisit this. Like, let's do it again and again and again. But now it feels like a lot of the streamers are young black kids who are coming from a totally different world than like the prior generation of streamers. It's very interesting to see how their world is a little different than some of the dudes that came before them. Yeah. I mean, I have a lot of character for the streamer shit, so I can't really say that that stuff's even real. Like the people you do see, like the way they act on stream, that's not really, it's not real. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:19 I mean, you also have to know how fake the streaming world is because there's a lot of people who seem really famous, but they just getting clipped to hell. There's a lot of people with fake viewers. I'm sure you've ran into that. You can. bro these people can walk down the street nobody who even know who the fuck they are but in their world in their streamer world they're fucking more famous than blueface yeah like if I took every dollar that I make from
Starting point is 00:42:44 content and spent it on clippers I could seem 10 times more famous than I am right now online though just online but but it translates to the real world in a way and like it's just so crazy to think that like I could just do that and I don't really like see the value in it because I've been viral a million times and it don't really change the number of people watching my shit on average, you know?
Starting point is 00:43:05 Yeah, yeah, but I mean that shit, it only hits when you step out, you know? Yeah. That's the only time they'll get that reality check where it's like, all right, I'm gonna go out, it's gonna be so-and-so there, or maybe it's a show. So-and-so about it hit the stage
Starting point is 00:43:21 and then streamer hit the stage and it's like, why they're not jumping? Why they're not moving? Yeah. Why they're not moving? What are the subs in the botan shit? What about when you kicked it with clavicular?
Starting point is 00:43:34 Like a lot of people were kind of surprised that he was rapping the words to Famous Crip or whatever and saying the N-word and you didn't give a fuck you were a vibe? Yeah, no, he's a fan. He's a fan of mine, you know? I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm not a, he's not, he's not, I haven't seen him do anything racist personally, so. I'm not going to trip. on him. Yeah, I was glad I got to connect you guys because even when I had
Starting point is 00:44:03 hung out of them a few days before, he was playing your music and singing along to every word. And now he asked specifically, like, yo, I'm trying to look with Blueface. He's been showing love. I see all the clips, so I'm like, shit. I feel good, bro. So white dude rapping along to then where it doesn't, like, rise to the occasion
Starting point is 00:44:17 of you considering him a racist or anything? No. No, he's not saying any art of the yard. No chud the builder? Yeah, yeah, no chud the builder. That's different. No chinty. or none of that stuff.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Then he's good, you know? Yeah, yeah. You know when the motherfucker is being racist, bro. You know when somebody's just trying to, like, fit in with a different culture. I don't know. If you were, like, out and about and a Chud the Builder came up to you live streaming, dropping the N-words, saying all this crazy shit, do you going to just laugh at him because you got a career to worry about,
Starting point is 00:44:52 or are you going to wild out? No, I probably just walk off on him. I don't know Jail kind of told me a lot about the type of people you interact with So you can't fight a white guy Nah just on a Just on a like a level of like
Starting point is 00:45:10 You don't get no points for that You know? I'm all about the point system So it's like Somebody's a snitch Or somebody's like a Tim type guy Or somebody's like somebody's gonna go in PCs When did you get there? Just leaving alone
Starting point is 00:45:23 Yeah you're not gonna get no points For doing nothing to them and then you might even it might even fuck you up. Yeah. We actually don't know what Chud the Builder's hands were like. Yeah, you'd be so.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Then it's like, all right. I don't know. It just doesn't, don't add up to me. I like, it's got to be worth it for me at this point. Maybe because I am who I am, but it's got to be worth the risk.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Yeah. I'm not just doing shit. If anything, I feel like Trude the Builders a little time being famous kind of showed us that black people are surprisingly chill because like he was doing this for a long time before somebody finally attacked him.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Yeah. But I mean, you know, I don't know. Rage baiting has became a real tactic. He's probably the most extreme version of that. Yeah. Not even just him. I just see a lot of videos of people just trying to upset random people just to get views. And it's like, shit, that's a dangerous, that's a dangerous way, a route to take. Yeah. because you're not really getting famous. It's not like you get to walk in places. I'm like, hey, it's him.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Right. It's more like, like, yeah, no, get away from me, you know? I'm at the point where, like, when I see a streamer, I get, like, immediate, like, alarm bells in my head. Clip arm, clip form. Yeah, exactly. Like, I'm on Hollywood Boulevard with, like, a bunch of BMX dudes a couple weekends ago. And a couple different people walked by streaming,
Starting point is 00:46:51 and they didn't notice me or anything. But as soon as I, like, catch them out the corner, my eyes. I'm kind of like, ugh. Because you just know that they're going to go cycling through their dumb fucking brain and try to think of the best thing that they can do to fuck with you. Now, granted, I'm with like 100 dudes that are like realistically not going to let
Starting point is 00:47:06 anybody be super disrespectful, but still, you just kind of, you feel it. Especially when you're with your family and shit, and you see a streamer, and you're like, oh, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I agree. I mean, I have a whole different way of streaming, so my shit's more like reality stream.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Yeah. Just turn the camera on. We're gonna do this shit anyway. Are you still as committed to streaming as you were at first? Because at first you were kind of saying, I'm more of a reality TV guy. I ain't really fucking the streaming. And then I feel like DDG kind of got you the setup. And you were just like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:47:37 This is actually dope. Yeah, he forced it on me. I can't lie. Shout out to DDG. It wasn't for him, I probably wouldn't be streaming. So shout out to brother. But now I just collided the worlds. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Just turn the camera. It's like reality streaming. If Lemmy came to you and said, I want to do a reality show with you, we're going to film for a month, and then maybe it takes a month to, like, edit it and get it out. I don't know exactly what the timeline would be, but, like, if he said,
Starting point is 00:48:06 like, I want you to take a break from streaming so we could really make this shit, like something that people will really pay attention to. You'd be open to that? Okay. Yeah. I'm always up in the money, man, you know. That'll make me wait.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Talk to money shit. Yeah, I don't go. Because you said Lemmy was helping you out while you were locked up, right? Yeah, yeah. Yep, yep. So are you working with him on anything? Is there going to be something coming?
Starting point is 00:48:27 Yeah, we still contracted for a show, but, you know, he just had a kid, like doing their baddies, um, marathon type thing. So just letting them, yeah, you know, do with that, and then my time will come. But we're already contracted. They've already given me money for it, so it's a timely, timely matter. But in the meantime, I'm going to keep streaming. I think with the streaming is just I keep getting banned, so like, Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:48:53 I can't. For what kind of stuff? One time I had a girl sucking a cucumber. Oh, okay. A couple nips, lips, reading the chat while driving. They keep warning me about that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Start doing it. They're like, don't do it, don't do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's like certain shit. And then my stepson didn't have a shirt on. I don't know. I thought he was a girl maybe. Oh.
Starting point is 00:49:19 So they did, like, shout. I don't know. It'd be kind of, so I kind of got them, kind of like converting over to kick a little. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're on Twitch and Kick right now? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Yeah, kick's a lot cooler about that shit from the higher. Yeah, it's just more realistic, you know? It's like, well, how can we be on camera and have all these guidelines to us? Like, we're not robots. Yeah. But kick is more like reasonable to where it's like, or if you actually do something, then we'll do it. But I haven't been banned on kick once. But yeah, so as far as Twitch, Twitter.
Starting point is 00:49:52 goes, though, I got all these subscribers, and then I keep getting banned, so you lose the subscribers. Yeah. I mean, I feel like kick, just the fact, and there's a lot of people that have been switching to kick that I think are solely pretty much switching because of the clipping, the fact that they provide the clipping. I mean, that is kind of a crazy value. Because it's like neon talking about spending $600K in a month. And kick's going to do it for free. Yeah, I mean, that, even if they're not doing anything special for you that they would not do for another streamer, I mean, I feel like That just makes the whole way better than Twitch. I agree.
Starting point is 00:50:25 I agree because after a while, you'll do it become a, like, you have to stream. Like, they get you, bro. They suck you in. Yeah. After the first month, so if somebody subscribes today, exactly 30 days from today, you'll lose that sub. All right? So after the first month, you'll get your most amount of subs,
Starting point is 00:50:46 and then every day you'll lose. So you have to replace, which means you have to keep streaming. gotta keep turning on and that's how they get you yeah that's when you just become a content demon i remember when ninja was at the height of his success he like his girl got him to go on vacation for four days or some shit like that and they were interviewing them and he said i just went on vacation and while i was on vacation i lost a quarter million dollars or something like that worth of subscribers because if he's home playing he keeps getting more but if you replace yeah i mean if you don't replace it's just loose they got me to
Starting point is 00:51:21 with the members on here, it really makes me like, I got to do more bonus content. Yeah, so that's how they get you. So, I mean, I think Twitch,
Starting point is 00:51:30 if they can upgrade their services that benefit to streamers, I think it'll be better for them just in general because we are kind of working for them, you know? Yeah, I feel like Twitch is losing money for Amazon.
Starting point is 00:51:45 So they're like seeing Kicks spending all this money, and they're like, we're not going to do it. this shit to try to compete because they're already burning money just by existing. That's why they got a million fucking ads on that shit. Yeah, but kicks coming up though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Oh, I got to ask this. All right, I got to ask this. Allmody suspect just turned himself in to do, I think, three or four years in prison. How do you think he's going to do in there? I'll probably have the worst time of his life. Why do you say that? He's a non-affiliate, so they'll probably bully him. Yeah?
Starting point is 00:52:25 Yeah, just make him do stuff. Why don't you be told him that he won't judge him for going PC? Yeah, he'll probably go PC. Do you think that's respectable for a non-affiliate? Why not? I don't see who would hold court on him. I wouldn't expect him to go in there and try to be tough with a bunch of games. Monsters in there, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Do you think that's a relationship that'll ever get fixed between you and him or not? The people would love to see a reunion. I don't know. I don't know what's wrong with him, bro. He just, as you can see, he falls out with everybody. So those type of people don't really last. He's got a lot of anger. Yeah, you know, it's definitely a him thing, you know.
Starting point is 00:53:14 It's definitely not a me thing. I don't give a fuck. Would you admit that your rap style was influenced by him at one point? hell no he's said that many times yeah that's a him thing you get me like what the fuck does that even mean
Starting point is 00:53:29 if my rap style was influenced by him why the f f f f fick it ain't worked for him I mean there's a lot of factors right no your star power your hit making ability your look your nah his shit
Starting point is 00:53:44 his shit was more like deep voice like I'm more like up and down with it I'm like uh and then I go you love the hot pitch shit now you feel me so that sounds nothing like him name one song of mine
Starting point is 00:53:59 that sounds like Frosty we might suspect we might oh yeah suspect we might say some of those some of the same like I live or words but that's just LA lingo you know we're from the same
Starting point is 00:54:11 if there was a double XL freshman class for L.A. Rappers though I feel like you Frosty and suspect would have been on the same cover that sort of era right there that was a good era yeah I mean there were a lot before me
Starting point is 00:54:24 a lot more years like I don't know I fuck with their music though I definitely listen to them like when I was doing this shit yeah I got some good notable songs that that I f***ed so it's not even like
Starting point is 00:54:38 I'm not saying he's trash he sucks or anything he makes good music it's just it's a him thing you got some personal thing on the inside of him that won't let him go further yeah because it's like you gotta get music okay people know you you had a spurt
Starting point is 00:54:57 what happened like you know you must have self deteriorated somewhere along the line is is there a little part of you that's kind of sad for frosty when you see him getting arrested 10 times for stealing Pokemon cards not even arrested but caught on video i guess no i just met frosty for the first time he seemed shit oh yeah because he was on the tour yeah he's on tour with us. He seems cool. I don't know. Yeah. He seems cooler than Almighty, I would say. He seems more like, like hip than more like, you know, just got a little bit more like aura sauce to that will draw people to him. Almighty's just kind of like a John Doe type of vibe. Like he just waits to like stick out. He doesn't like stick out. Yeah. Frosty's probably a little more
Starting point is 00:55:47 social you know it's like some people walk in the room it's like okay i see why people with him i see his i see his little dribble itself and then some people walk in it's like oh man nigger regulars like nobody like you know i guess that's the star quality star power i guess that's you right but yeah i don't know uh when he gets out maybe he'll be different maybe he'll see the value in relationships and be less likely to just i don't know he's just weird Yeah. Why are you going, like, I don't know. I'm not, that's plenty of people that I think sound like me, but I'm not going to go out.
Starting point is 00:56:26 I like suspect, like, but I always felt weird about being on camera doing podcasts with him because we would always get into arguments that kind of like got a little personal and just didn't feel productive. He's like a bitch or something. He just starts. Yeah, it's just like he's very like, he's going to put his emotions in it. He's going to start saying weird shit. like you try to sound like me like bro that's some
Starting point is 00:56:52 whole shit like you're trying to sound like come on bro be for real like we're from the same place there's going to be some similarities but to go to discredit somebody and try to put your fucking title on top of it
Starting point is 00:57:07 is like that's some female shit and I'm pretty sure you've gotten to plenty of contests with him where he's just like he's hurting and he's just like saying like just saying we're a shit and you're probably because you're not like that you're not too you're not emotional yeah I'm probably I try to keep it all business yeah so
Starting point is 00:57:30 me as long as I've known you I've never seen you like emotional yeah so I can tell when whenever you into it with somebody it's like they're being emotional and you're just being a fucking insensitive white guy exactly I'm like too logical and then that doesn't really necessarily violate That doesn't work with. A lot of the street dudes that I've done podcasts with and stuff is more about the bob. It's not about like, listen, I didn't say anything that is offensive, so I feel like you shouldn't be mad. And then they're like, well, then why did I get 10 calls from dudes from my hood today that basically feel like your vibe was insensitive or some shit like that, you know? Always with the vibes.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Yeah. I don't know. You know how I am. I'm kind of the same in a way. just logic less fucking feelings and less what's really going on i feel it um so how do you feel about like losing weight since you got out um i think it looks better for my face personally yeah um it looks better in my face so it's a give and take you know um you feel a little less tough though no no i don't know i was what the boy i went to joe what skinnier than this so right but like when i first
Starting point is 00:58:46 seen you after getting all that way it's just like oh fclay you look like rampage or some shit like yeah he could beat a motherfucker out for no i love i love the physique of it but i didn't like my face so it's just i got to give or take one my face is more important that's one thing that clav will tell you is that it's all about being low body fat yeah because uh the weighting in your face it doesn't look good on everyone. Yeah. So I did not like how my face looked. I love how my body looked.
Starting point is 00:59:13 But now I'm like a $1.99, 200 flat. And I feel like me again in the face. Like when I look in the mirror. Before I didn't know who the fuck I was looking at. I was like, damn, bro, you look like. You look like the Incredible Hulk for a little while there. Yeah, it was like my, yeah, it was just, yeah, nah. It wasn't my look.
Starting point is 00:59:32 How did you feel about the argument that Wack got into with your boxing trainer at the time David Kaminsky where there was an argument about money and stuff. Wag didn't want to pay him because he felt like he didn't get paid yet, so why would he pay him? I think he could have paid him. He told me he was going to pay him after that.
Starting point is 00:59:51 So I think he probably did. Yeah, he probably did. Yeah, you know, that's just feelings or ego. I don't know. Me personally, I'm just get him a fuck out the way. Like if it's something to where it's not going to hurt me too, too bad to shut him up. Yeah, take this shit, you know.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Right. But I don't know. I don't know the conversation they really had, you know, to where maybe Wack might have felt like David was like too enforceful about the money, you know? So I haven't got paid, but hold on. You know, you can't trip on them up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:29 So I don't know. I can't, I'm not saying he did. I'm not saying he didn't. I'm saying I don't know what that private conversation went. to where motherfuckers feel like, oh, I'm not paying or I'm paying or I'm paying. That goes back to the aiding shit, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:44 I'm gonna keep my same perspective. If I was aiding, I would have just paid. If I was whack, I would have just paid. Right. And then stop fucking what motherfucker or something, you know? Yeah, yeah. Because when you do business like that, bro, it only brings more light to shit.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Yeah. You know what I mean? Well, that's why I try to tell waggers, I was like, if I'm having a party in my backyard and the gardener comes and mows the lawn and picks up the dog shit or whatever and then the party gets
Starting point is 01:01:14 canceled, I still got to pay the guy who got the yard ready. Yeah, exactly. Even if the party didn't happen, that was the reason why I got him. Exactly. Now, if you have a contract that's like, hey, I'm going to pay you this amount after the fight is done and after we get paid and I'm not going to pay you unless we get paid,
Starting point is 01:01:30 then he's got argument. But even there, it's just, you know, it's just human nature role. I'm like just paying my fucking leg. If you had another fight in a couple of months, is David like the person you would go back to to start training, or would you possibly switch it up at this point? Yeah, I, he's a good coach.
Starting point is 01:01:47 I was still trained with him. I don't got no problem with him. Yeah. Like I said, a lot of the stuff, I'm not even a part of the conversation, so I don't try to, you know, fuck one for the other. Yeah. I'll try to be the voice of reason.
Starting point is 01:02:06 No, definitely. Yeah. I mean, that really hurt me in my heart, the look in his face after I got my ass came to him to buy Serene. That was the only thing I felt bad about was just the fact that this dude clearly was let down. Yeah. Yeah, what was that, real?
Starting point is 01:02:21 Yeah, I'm just a pussy. I don't know, man. Like, why are you going to just, like, just throw one, swim? In retrospect, I wish I had just kind of. But I probably would have done the rage, I think. I mean, you did that anyway. I mean, not necessarily, but it was like. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:37 You know? I almost didn't get paid because I took so little damage or did so little before I quit. Yeah, and even that. I spoke up for you on that. That's bullshit, bro. Well, you cannot throw a fucking event, bro. Have all these people show up and at the end try not to pay motherfuckers, bro. That's like, that's bad business, bro.
Starting point is 01:02:55 That's the worst thing you can do. Yeah, you can dock. You can find motherfuck, bro. Right. You can tell them up, hey, I'm not giving you the fool because this and that, but to not pay or to even put presents. that to someone after everything's all said and done, it's like, bro, you're a piece of shit. That's not, that's not player at all.
Starting point is 01:03:15 That's not, that's like a buildup for, everybody's not going to take it that way, you know? Right. Some people are going to start attacking. And you don't want, why would you want the people that you call out to, brought to attack? Yeah. Like internally, you know,
Starting point is 01:03:30 it brings more value to the situation if you're a motherfucker that fault on your card is saying, whoopty woo-woo you know random motherfucker yeah what they say you wasn't even here cool you set out you contracted it's like bro
Starting point is 01:03:46 dispay did you catch the fight before yours between a super hot fire and a gypsy crusader did you check that out after uh nah I just seen the little clips
Starting point is 01:03:57 what did you think uh I thought that gypsy crusader won but you know I wanted super hot fire to win Obviously, you want the black guy to win and not the Nazi. But, I mean, that was pretty crazy. Like, it was super controversial because the whole audience was behind Super Out Fire so much that, like,
Starting point is 01:04:15 it honestly seemed like people might storm the ring because it was so much energy. Yeah, he came backstage. He was pretty pissed off. Yeah. He was, yeah, he was mad about the judgment and everything. That's a real Nazi, though. Like, he got the SS bolts on him. That was wild.
Starting point is 01:04:33 He was screaming the N-WRour. I heard of Super Hot Fire's girlfriend and shit. I heard backstage. That's insane. Yeah, I don't know, man. Just that whole event, the way they doing it is just, it doesn't seem profitable, you know? I think they can find some better fighters, celebrity fighters, you know.
Starting point is 01:04:57 Would you fight a Nazi? Yeah, I would say anybody. I mean, it has nothing to be with him being a Nazi, you know. It's just all together. You know the way it's put all together. It's like it could definitely be less Maybe make the Nazi fight a white guy Yeah, you know changes his approach like don't don't enforce him the racism. You know don't make it seem like okay don't get him a reason to Right. You know what I mean? All right, you're not to you all right. We're gonna put you against a white guy
Starting point is 01:05:34 We're gonna put this person against you know it could just like way racist white guy versus non-racist white guy. Did what I'm saying? That could be good. From a business mindset, and it would just draw less attention to fuck shit because now you're going to have a whole community mad that you're employing this racist person
Starting point is 01:05:51 and you're giving him money, giving him a platform. What you are, I mean, what you are. A lot of people prior to this, there's nobody else who would have done that. That is a whole new world that we're in.
Starting point is 01:06:04 Correct. But you're brand risk and you're trying to, become an overnight type thing, so you have to maybe take risk on certain people who have an audience, but it could be done to where it doesn't make you look crazy, you know? That would be a perfect idea. All right, you're a Nazi, fight a white guy.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Yeah. They tried to put a temporary tattoo over his Nazi tattoo, which came off within like one minute of the fight, which I thought was pretty funny. Yeah, if you got to do all that, I mean, you probably shouldn't let him fight. It's just like as a black dude, There's got to be a lot more skin in the game to fight someone who hates your entire race and also thinks that you are a subhuman because of your ethnicity. Just really got to feel like you got the city on your back at that point.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Yeah. Yeah. I don't know, man. If I could advise brain race, it would just be less advantage seeking and more just like appealing. I know I just seems very advantage Did you see Johnny Mansell fight Bob Mennery?
Starting point is 01:07:22 I didn't see none of that shit That was the headliner for the one that they just did And it was pretty wild Because Bob Menary was like blatantly On a bunch of Adderall During it he's all just jittery And shaking and shit It was fucking weird man
Starting point is 01:07:33 Yeah that last event I can't see I say that I've seen very many Clips Not to even to my own horn But Yeah yours was super viral You know, I don't think it compared on any...
Starting point is 01:07:46 Me and yours, back-to-back, we're super viral, and then this one was... Yeah, this one was like that. Might have appealed the different audience, but... Yeah, this one was more like... I don't know, this one was more like a gimmicky entertainment rather than sporting. I think Rage was the only, like, rap personality that was on it.
Starting point is 01:08:06 Realist, well, Super Hot Fire, too, but like... Yeah, well, they tried to UFC. It's like... Yeah, they switched that out to. Boxing or UFC, bro, you can't... Like, no. Definitely. Why did you link with Creschon on the tour? How did that happen?
Starting point is 01:08:25 She had reached out to me. I was just like, shit, I'm on a tour. Come perform or something. Oh, she did perform? Yeah, yeah, she performed. Was that more like just come kick it because it'll be viral? Or is there like a party of you that misses spending time with her? Nah, we're just cool at this point.
Starting point is 01:08:47 I'm out of that era. but I'm always able to co-exist. I'm never like a grudgy. I'm not good with grudges. I'm not good with like being mad at somebody. So just coexist. I don't think it'll go further than that. So when you hang out of there,
Starting point is 01:09:04 there's no like spark that you kind of feel like, and I know anytime I see like an ex-girlfriend, it's still just like an elephant in the room. Like, damn, I f*** you. Nah, I don't think. No, that's really how you feel? That's hard to ignore, yeah. That's how you feel?
Starting point is 01:09:21 I feel like, man, when I see bitches I fucked that, I just... Well, I'm talking about, like, that I was in a relationship. Oh, like, X, um... I mean, it's more... Yeah, I guess you can say, like, in a type of way you might feel more comfortable. Mm-hmm. But, no, it's not like a sense of entitlement or nothing
Starting point is 01:09:39 to where it's like you still mine. Right, definitely. Where are you at with a... Oh, okay, as long as we're on the Christian thing, Did you see her fight? I didn't. I've seen the clips, though. She won.
Starting point is 01:09:54 Yeah, I've seen the clips. I've seen a couple clips. I didn't see the whole fight, but from the clips that I saw, it looked pretty entertaining. It didn't look as professionals. I thought it would, but it was definitely entertaining. Right. Yeah, I wonder if that's, like, how far she plans on taking that. Like, are we going to just see her fighting everybody this year or what?
Starting point is 01:10:15 Yeah, I'm sure it'll gradually build up, but I'm just, it's about, I'm sure she'll run out of contenders, you know. It's interesting that they put her against some random pro wrestler. Yeah, I mean, it's probably a tune-up fight, you know, just to see where she's at as far as, you don't want to put it, you know, you don't want your fight to be something that you might take. You want to put her against somebody that she's going to win against. Yeah, like, you know, or build some confidence, you know, because that's what, that's what boxing's all about. So, tune up fight, I would call that.
Starting point is 01:10:48 Just something to get her started. I think the girl was a good size, though. Yeah, she had the look. Kind of scary, yeah. She had the look, so that was good enough. And from the clips that I saw, it looked like she was fighting back. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 01:11:03 Definitely. But the clips that I saw, I saw the same clips everybody saw, you know? Yeah, yeah. One, two, boom. Do you think I'm crazy? Because at one point I was trying to get my wife to fight, Chrison. Why? I just said that should be viral as f***.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Everybody kept telling me like, no. She's going to fucking kill your wife. Yeah, that's probably not a good idea. But, yeah, no, she should just stick to the porn. Yeah, probably a safer bet. Yeah, just keep fighting the dicks. Keep fighting the dicks. She at one point expressed interest in fighting your day.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Oh, yeah. Yeah. Glad you brought that. I was that about, bro. You like how I did that shit, right? I checked, put her in her place because I'm sure she could came to you as if, Like I was like, you know, you know how women are. Well, I was the one I had to tell her because she like dropped the Instagram comment reacting to you.
Starting point is 01:11:55 And I'm like, no, no, no, no. I'm like, delete that comment. Yeah. We are making our Instagram real responding to Blueface so that we can really hype this thing up. Because it's so hard to move the needle when it comes to OnlyFans these days. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, Blueface, even saying anything about you, we got to do this. But even before that, I'm just saying like, I don't think that you knew that she would be.
Starting point is 01:12:17 that i will you know it will be of interest i don't think honestly i don't know if she would actually have done it but really like because i think he was so much more viral than fucking any porn star yeah no i agree but i'm saying i've seen the clip the initial clip when you asked her like oh would you and she was like uh you know i feel like you're you didn't expect that like it was like well you're blueface all right no i mean we talk about this kind of show all the time i know exactly where she at but do you know what the thing that was mean that she didn't want to say on camera is that she thought you were better looking before you gained all the weight. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:12:51 I know that already. Yeah. I look at my face now. I'm like, oh, shit. I feel like myself again. I used to look at my face, bro. I used to look at my face, bro, this is not. Like, I'm trying different hair styles.
Starting point is 01:13:01 Yeah. I saw the people were you fighting with Creshawn on like Hollywood Boulevard or whatever, the one that got that fight canceled back in the day. Yeah. And you were hella skinny in that, and I just happened to say that clip. And I was like, damn, that was a good-looking guy right there. Yeah, yeah. And I agree.
Starting point is 01:13:14 I look much better. Like, I don't have to go back to that skinny. Like, I think the size I'm at is like, great. But now if you want to lose weight, you just get on the GLP one, get on an ozempic, boom. Yeah, the weight is gone. I'm good where I'm at.
Starting point is 01:13:27 But as far as your wife goes, though, you would let me fuck your wife? On camera, to make money? Yeah. Yeah. Sure, let's do it. I'm gonna get in there, too. Fucking.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Three, son? Make a movie. Oh, shit. No, I don't think you, you couldn't fucking front of me. What? And on camera? I could, if we're fucking at the same. same time, yeah. But you said some weird
Starting point is 01:13:47 shit, like sitting in the corner watching or she said that weird shit. I was just joking. You can't sit and watch. No, I got an equal participant. I can't be kicking in the corner. Because that's what people always say. Yeah, like, we can run a train. I can do that. But you sit in the corner and watch us. No, I can't do that.
Starting point is 01:14:04 What if we swing? What's that? Like, another girl? Oh, Nevea? No, no, no. No, I don't think she likes pink, girl. What? I've never had that before. Yeah. You never had white
Starting point is 01:14:16 You like my grandpa I can have those kids God damn it She said it look like your grandma But Swinging is more like You know You just swap partners
Starting point is 01:14:24 Why you're all in the same room Okay Okay I got plenty of people That would be interested So not her No She's that anti white
Starting point is 01:14:31 No No No I wouldn't want that either She's your new work You can't Fuck my bitch Yeah
Starting point is 01:14:36 What about Jaden Or is that too Too close to home Yeah Probably I just I just wouldn't want it to affect us.
Starting point is 01:14:46 We got to go BM for BM. Or CM. CM for CM. I don't think about it. I think about it, bro. I just don't want it to affect us all being in the same room, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want to fuck up the podcast.
Starting point is 01:15:00 Yeah, I wouldn't like, I wouldn't want sex to get in the way of me bringing people around or you bringing people around to where it's like. I'm kind of intimidated by the idea of swinging because, like, what if you nut fast and the other dudes just hammering away for an extra 45 minutes? It's a bad look. Yeah. I've seen it done. You got a power up with the honeypack beforehand, probably.
Starting point is 01:15:21 Yeah, I've seen it then. But honestly, though, that was the thing that, like, moved the only fan's numbers the most last year, I think, was the Blueface tease concept. Oh, you really thought that was coming? Yeah, they thought it was real, and they were signing up in mass. I don't think about it. If you're down, I don't think about it, bro. To be honest, I, I... It wouldn't.
Starting point is 01:15:47 I don't think you don't want to do porn. Yeah, I don't do porn, but. Yeah, I mean, that's the whole thing with me is like, if it's on camera, I'm open-minded. But if it's not on camera, then we're not doing it. Because we never done that. Right, right, right, right. You know? Yeah, no, it would be no point in that.
Starting point is 01:16:04 We'll be all. Performers. Yeah, I agree. Were you a little irritated when Jaden took a picture on the plug-tot couch with me and Lennon? No, I was only irritated at the, I think you had said something or captioned something. Oh, we captioned it as if we did a scene with her. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:21 So then it's like, okay, no offense to you. You know, we boys and shit, but it's like, I'm not going to take a picture with your wife and they make it weird captioned. You totally can, but she's a poor star, so it's like a little less weird. I know, but I just wouldn't just because of, you know, how we are. So once you open the door, it was like, okay, I don't mind. I got friends where, yeah, we've, I don't mind, you know. It's just I try to know.
Starting point is 01:16:46 not to. Like, I let other people open that door. I'm never the, the guy that's trying to my man's bitch. I forget who told me, but that basically, like, your sentiment was that is helping Plug Talk and helping their business, and it's not doing anything for you. So you shouldn't have done that to her. That was like the essential. No, it's just more of me and you thing. Oh, okay. Yeah, you know. You didn't say anything about it until now when I brought it up. Well, because we already went, we already had the situation with your wife, so it's very, and it's there was even kind of back and forth there yeah and then she just came on there like two like like she was the fucking prize in the situation jaden no your wife oh yeah the video you know
Starting point is 01:17:28 yeah i seen your little video that is what you said yeah i'm like what i'm the prize in this situation i'm the one that's going to make this motherfucker to go crazy you need to be like more yeah servicing like catering like okay i would be not i seen your little video and i eat think. Yeah. You know, I get it. I got it shot the, oh, you were, okay, you're behind that? I should have known because I'm like, bro, this is not what?
Starting point is 01:17:53 Because it's very unnatural to her. She's just not like a gossipy drama fueled the person. So I had to be the one like, listen, this is how we're doing that. You should have wrote a better script. You should have wrote like some shit like I'm your boy. Yeah. All right. Well, I realized a little bit of what you've been dealing with all these years, though,
Starting point is 01:18:09 because as soon as we got done that interview with Jaden, she started hitting the tequila and she was a little bit of a, different person like 10 minutes after the interview was oh yeah you see her huh she's yeah she's like a switch man i mean it was cool for for me but then i was kind of thinking like damn that must have been a lot for him to do with over the years yeah what's she doing she's trying to fuck your wife no she was just deligerent drunk as like instantly belligerent i didn't get to see like how crazy she might have got but it definitely stood out to me it was like holy this bitch just got wasted yeah like what not bitch see i'm sorry what made it like
Starting point is 01:18:45 that free though to read like oh i see what's i don't even remember she was just drunk as because we were trying to film like tic-toks afterwards oh okay and you know when you try to film a tic-tok it's like a d ui uh thing on the side of the road like okay count it the alphabet backwards yeah yeah yeah yeah i get that i get that yeah no yeah but i mean that's how all females are bro these bids get drunk they turn into a whole different a whole different you don't get drunk like that no i don't drink oh yeah for sure um um Um, okay, what, uh, okay. Okay, so at the press conference for the Swaggy P fight that never happened.
Starting point is 01:19:22 At the press conference, there was a guy who came up to me while I was streaming and he didn't know I was streaming and he basically said, you got to stop bringing them C words on your platform. And it started a lot of shit. You said, where this was that? Uh, at the press conference for the Swaggy P fight. Oh. Which notably had like a ton of crips there. Right.
Starting point is 01:19:44 Well, he didn't say none of that. And he said that to me, and it was very awkward because I'm, like, looking around, like, oh, my God, I can see, like, 10 crips right now that would freak the fuck out if they knew that you just said that. He was going to say it to the white guy. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that should tell you enough about him. I mean, he says it's from Compton, so he's only saying it for the crips that they beep with, which, where they do that at. That ain't really how this works.
Starting point is 01:20:08 Yeah, right. Everybody has their own personal name for where they're from. but I don't know who it is, but whoever it was, I don't know, that would just say a lot about their gang banging, you know, because Crips in the room and you decide to disrespect them to the white guy who has nothing to do with anything. Right. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:20:30 It doesn't sound like that. I mean, you came out distant hoods, but then I haven't really heard you do it since. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, some jail shit, bro. Shit's wearing off. Yeah, the thing I just came from, like, Back to square one all over again. You're just sitting around gang banging.
Starting point is 01:20:50 And so then you kind of reset your brain as you were free longer? Yeah, as time is going on, you know, you start to get farther away from it. But I mean, I don't take back none of that said or anything. It's still that. It's just I don't got to promote it. Definitely. Do you, so wait, do you have to pay Jaden $10,000 a month? Is that where you're currently at?
Starting point is 01:21:11 No, I don't know. That was Kat? Nah, she asked me, but. I don't even think the government will give her that, you know? Nah? Hell no. You don't pay anybody child support? It's all done the goodness of your heart?
Starting point is 01:21:26 Yeah, no, I don't pay child support. I've never been on child support. I've never even almost. So that's not really my thing. And then I made a viral ass tweet and everybody was mad about it, thinking that I'm speaking for me. What did you say? I was saying that if you need child support.
Starting point is 01:21:47 support you should probably let the person who can best support the child have custody because a couple thousand a month isn't going to better your situation than that for the kid right and people thought that I was like talking about me I don't even pay child support so I wasn't talking about me that's really how I feel you're like the last rapper on Twitter I know huh yeah I like I see that you like the written word that's good my shit just been viral so I just use it you know it's like a little tool I got I might as well use it like yeah sometimes I don't even know my tweets go so viral oh you find out like the next day you're like oh literally so it's like an extra little boost to whatever I'm doing definitely yeah yeah I just tweet this bullshit lyrics or shit like that what you think that up
Starting point is 01:22:35 I think it's smart it hits a different audience no no I'm saying the whole child support thing oh the child support thing I mean shit I don't know my tweet was If you need child support, you should probably let the person who can best support the child have custody. Because a couple thousand a month is not going to better your situation enough for the kid, which is what child support is. Do you want full custody of your kids? Or do you think that she's probably better suited to take care of that day to day? If it was best for the kids, yeah, I would want that. But that's what I'd be on.
Starting point is 01:23:16 I'm being on what's best for the kid. It's not really a personal dad or mom thing. So my tweet didn't even, was not even sexualized towards any male or female. That's how I feel on both ends. If the woman is more financially or stable, should be that way. If you were broke and she was making hell of money, would you?
Starting point is 01:23:41 Yeah, she should have. So you'd be down to have child support and then she could just pay you? No, no, no. She should have custody because I need to figure out my situation. But the irony of it is that a lot of times the person who's working all the time who would have a hard time taking care of the kid is the one, you know, making all the money. And then the mom is typically the one who has more of like an open schedule.
Starting point is 01:24:00 Yeah, but it's more of a stability thing, you know? Yeah. It's about who's more stable. Who has a place that's been placing for years at a time. If you work a lot, go to daycare. You get a babysitter. There's things that somebody more financial can put things in order than somebody who's just freestyling every day. You know, kids need structure.
Starting point is 01:24:25 Right. It needs to be routine. So even if I do work a lot, I'll set up a structure of routine to where it doesn't offset their routine. Right. But if I just wake up and do nothing every day and I'm not in a stable situation, why would I have the kids? Right. And this person has a whole place. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:24:51 That's just my idea, but... No, I feel it. How does it feel... It's a sexist thing this day. True, true. You have another baby on the way. Are you excited about that? Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
Starting point is 01:24:59 I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, definitely. What had to happen between you and her before you realized you were ready for another kid? Or did it just happen? You just shot the club up and boom. She's pregnant? Nah, I've been knowing her for a long time.
Starting point is 01:25:13 I've been knowing her for a long time, so it's comfortable enough. I want more kids, but I don't want a lot of baby mama. You don't? Yeah. So you're going to run it back, put another one in there as soon as possible? Until she gets tired, yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:29 That's the plan. Yeah. I can't force people to have more kids. You know, some of these women are like, shit, I'm good on that, so. Mm-hmm. All right. And the kid that Kishan has, definitely not your. I mean, I don't tell this story a hundred times.
Starting point is 01:25:46 Oh, you took credit for it, even though it was not your kid just for content purposes? I'm not going down this row, Adam. It was the other dude who got killed. It was his kid, right? I'm not going down this, right? I don't know already told this story, you know. I'll do my homework before the next time, yeah. I'm not doing this shit again, bro. But... Okay. That is what it is. This is what it is.
Starting point is 01:26:05 What else you got from me? Um, that's... You got some viral shit, bro. Yeah, let me see what we're here. Well, you think I'm leaving stuff on the table? Is there a good viral shit that I'm missing? We talked about your wife. Yeah, that was pretty good.
Starting point is 01:26:24 Talked about the fight. I haven't talked about that, so now that would probably be a good. That would be a good clip, yeah. Shut up, Pinkface. Oh, yeah, pinkface. Yeah, yeah, she's pretty famous. This is a great nickname.
Starting point is 01:26:41 Yeah, right? Self, came. I told my kid that, I go, you know, Blueface's daughter's pink face? She goes, she thinks about it for her calling. moment she comes back she's like dad i have an idea i could be rainbow face yeah she can that's her favorite call it role that would be a good play date we should do it what just a tv show with the kids huh we can stream it we get let them have a play date i don't put her on camera oh okay but what you do where the mic is on
Starting point is 01:27:10 the kid that's genius yeah that content is crazy like i mean you got to make your kid part of it but like When I seen that and I'm like watching like your kid just walk around and do shit with the mic on and then you're over there just talking to I'm like wow this is like really entertaining. Yeah, I know. That's what that's why I'm all about where I'm going to get paid to just do shit I'm going to do regularly. Yeah. Like if I can get paid to just wake up and breathe. Yeah. I'm going to go work hard for.
Starting point is 01:27:39 There's a different audience too with the kid content. Yeah, it's a great audience actually and it's a good different side of me that people. or I guess not used to. You know Snoop Dog has like a whole... Snoop Dog has a whole kids brand. Yeah, no, that's a good. Yeah, he got Pop Warner and all type of shit. No, but I was at this fair,
Starting point is 01:28:01 and then three dudes come out dressed as dogs, and there's like Snoop Dog's voice rapping kid songs. And then, but I'm pretty sure it's AI, but it's like, this dude just sort of dances around and does his thing, and it's like, I don't know. It's like, that could keep Snoop's name alive even when he's gone. So, I mean, you kind of have like that sort of personality, too, where it's like the blueface name could live on. Yeah, you got to keep keep in touch with the youth, you know?
Starting point is 01:28:27 That's somehow, some way. You got to keep, because that's the next generation, man. That's going to be the next people buying tickets. Definitely. Streaming songs, watching your shows, streams, whatever the case may be. For sure. I'm still appealing to that audience, but I'm not trying to fit in, you know? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:46 And that's another thing with the rap shit is like, after so long, I don't want to. to make songs for like the younger and try to stay socially and hip to the shit like i want to be able to be 30 years old when i'm 30 years old you know and do 30 year old shit i might go to 30 year old and up clubs after that so you know they do have those yeah they do i keep forgetting that you're like just turning 30 now right yeah i'm 29 now yeah so i got a year after this year i'm be doing 30 shit you're like mr beast he's like 26 or some shit It's like kind of hard to fathom that he's like done so much at such a young age. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:29:25 So I'm already trying to go into the next lane where I'm not trying to be 30 at the fucking 18 and over club. Just offering kids drinks. I went to a couple of those clubs like when I first moved to L.A. That were like just you could get into it if you're like 18. Yeah. It's a very different vibe. It's very what? No, but when I went to the club with clav,
Starting point is 01:29:51 that was the craziest shit I ever seen every girl's like 21 more blonde hair yeah yeah they love I love clap I follow clav and they all want to clap clap is like the white blue face yeah there are some important differences
Starting point is 01:30:04 but yeah well of course he's a white version so it's not gonna be you know he's just like he's got some interesting like sides to his personality yeah yeah he's just autistic as
Starting point is 01:30:15 oh he's autistic yeah I didn't know that he was a hard time processing like how people feel I think yeah which is maybe you might have a little bit of that all white people are kind of intensive
Starting point is 01:30:26 what? Yeah you guys are kind of what big empaths so you get white privilege so you're kind of insensitive to to things that you think white privilege is real
Starting point is 01:30:38 see insensitive that's perfect right there insensitive you know it's real I don't know and not in this world yes maybe not in your
Starting point is 01:30:50 work-filled world, but I'm saying in your everyday life, you don't... You know how much better my career would be if I was black? Yeah, and this... In this world. Career, but I'm saying human walking the streets, day-to-day life. Getting a taxi. Getting a job, a little bit harder. A job.
Starting point is 01:31:05 Getting a fucking... But you guys got all the cool gangs? Yeah. No, I mean, we got... There's black privileges. Yeah. But, uh, white privileges, this... It's the one, you know?
Starting point is 01:31:19 Mm-hmm. It's the one. It's like... I'm gonna meditate on that. No, it's definitely. There you go. That's the insensitive shit I'm talking about. You get privileged just to be white
Starting point is 01:31:28 and you're acting like you don't. I mean, I just don't think about it. I'm in the middle of the hurricane. Just too white, huh? I don't see it. Yeah. But I believe you. I'll take your word for it.
Starting point is 01:31:38 I see it because if it was a black dude doing what you do, they already fucked them up. No. Definitely. I'd be standing on business just like I didn't know. But you're right.
Starting point is 01:31:49 So people don't really like, It's not like a threat type of vibe, you know? Yeah. Like, if you were black, I think a lot more of the people that you have around here would target you more. Maybe, yeah. It's like, oh, Adam's the white guy, man. Why would you do anything to him? Well, like Sean Cotton been doing what he'd been doing for like 10 plus years.
Starting point is 01:32:08 Nobody beat him up. Well, actually, Kevin Gates beat him up, so I guess, yeah. See what I'm. Well, Russ got me beat up. You see what I'm saying? You probably ain't ever been beat up. I did. I got beat up by Russ's goons.
Starting point is 01:32:18 Yeah? Yeah. What'd you do? just got beat up and then just got beat up they ran away right away so I couldn't really do anything but he's not even black so I know but he sent the Nigerians at me yeah damn I know got your ass did it teach you a lesson
Starting point is 01:32:31 did it help with you yeah yeah you like maybe let me just chill a little bit because I talked to him and then he like basically like said how much shit I had talked about him and I didn't even remember any of the shit that I said about him insensitive white guy yeah and then I once I like really like thought about it I was like damn that was like you you had every right to do me Yeah, just running off.
Starting point is 01:32:52 But, yeah. That was a perfect example, though. If you get me touched is my fault. Yeah. You know? I should have been moving right. But yeah, you do, that's even a white privilege. You doing what you're doing amongst all these black people.
Starting point is 01:33:06 They're like turning the other cheek for you because you're white. Sometimes. When in other words, it was a black dude, they'll be like, man, we're going to fuck him up at the end of this podcast. Maybe. For surely, you know it. But like, you know, look at Ak. Ag doing good. Ain't nobody beating him up, but he mostly does content by himself.
Starting point is 01:33:26 Man, Ak is in fucking... You don't count him as a black dude? No, he's black, but he's just like... He's nerdier than most of the black dudes you surround yourself with, right? He's that too, but the way he moves is like... Less encountery with the people he talks about. You know, he's more of a... around like if he has some type of control over the environment. I mean he does have to move smart
Starting point is 01:34:00 because he does talk more shit than nearly anyone. Exactly. I've only seen act outside probably once twice in my whole career. But y'all were beefing. Is that over would you say? Like I said before, when it comes to snitches or like people that would be in jail or like not be as tough as me, I really don't get to, like, threaten enough to be, like, beef or, like, I want to do something to you. I just see it as content. So if you're at a party and you see him, I'll shake his hand. Okay. Kiss him on his fucking forehead.
Starting point is 01:34:33 Well, that would be a lot. That would be a good photo. I'd like to see that. I wouldn't do nothing to act. That's good. That's good. Act is, like, zero points on the point scale of. What if you were in New York and he said, yo, pull up.
Starting point is 01:34:46 I want to do an interview. Yeah, I would do an interviewer. Oh, man. You know, I know the difference, you know? I know the difference from, like, content and, like, but really, I'm just good content for some people, you know? Like, the shit that be going on, like, in y'all world, it's not shit going on all the time. To report on.
Starting point is 01:35:05 Yeah, you always have shit, including things that we don't know about. You feel me? So it's, like, I understand that. Like, all right, I just have a lot of shit, just content, like, you know? It's like blog. How you feel about the Drake albums? you listen to them at all? I haven't listened to it, but I mean, usually when Drake drops,
Starting point is 01:35:24 there's something that sticks out. I haven't heard anything that stuck out. That song, uh, Janus, STFU is like the number one song right now, but you might not have heard it. Uh, I think I might have heard that one. But I mean, stick out as far as, like, there's always going to be a number one song out of the whole thing. When I say stick out, it's like an undeniable, like,
Starting point is 01:35:45 So that's like It's a weird thing where people Are like Oh this this doesn't have any big smash records I'm like you heard it once Like I feel like this is like The way hit records work Because you guys just hear it over and over and over
Starting point is 01:35:58 And eventually it gets into your head right Yeah that's very true as well But there are some songs that take about five seconds And you're just like Yeah Do you have a playlist People are expecting that Okay yeah true
Starting point is 01:36:11 Do you have like a playlist That you're updating of your favorite music on it consistent basis or not really? I use SoundCloud and I just like songs. SoundCloud, blah, yeah. Yeah, I'm still on there,
Starting point is 01:36:22 I like that. Still on there, bro. That's where you found me. The free service, yeah. That's what you found me. I'm still on there. That's good.
Starting point is 01:36:28 That's good. I would just, yeah, if you did have a playlist, is it going to be mostly like hard gangster rap or is it like fun stuff? That's a little bit of both. I got some Drake songs in there. I got TSU on there,
Starting point is 01:36:42 Jumbotron on there. That's probably my two favorite Drake songs. Oh, nice. I got some Young and Ace on their game over here that song. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is pretty hard. A girl on here named Jumbo Trown the other day. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:55 Yeah, you want to see? This is the type of situation that you would probably like. I'll be listening to a lot of local L.A. shit. Yeah. Is this up your alley? Or that's too much? Alex. It's doable.
Starting point is 01:37:16 She got her nickname on the Drusky show Oh, that's her on the Drusky show With the giant ass, yeah Oh, nah, she looks better in pictures, I would say then These pictures look nice But I do remember the Drusky show And I've seen her on there I'm sorry, Jumbo-O-Ther might be too
Starting point is 01:37:35 Too much I was gonna really try to crack It's too Jumbo My fault, too much She actually told me she has a condition Where her lower body carries all of her weight Yeah And then also clearly
Starting point is 01:37:46 get that uh yeah clearly also had bbLs on top of it i think bbos on top of it at least one she 23 so probably only one yeah i mean you're bbl guys no i don't i don't mind as long as this not too much yeah you know i don't like it like too much like you know what i'm talking about you know when it's too much when it's just like yeah yeah it was a little nats you know a little natural
Starting point is 01:38:13 and that's why porn bbos are better than like hip-hop bbLs because in porn the shit has to look good moving, bouncing on the d-and-a-and a lot of dudes in rap will have the girl with them that looks like she's got the craziest body you've ever seen and realistically when that dress come off it's going to look like the most fucked up thing you ever seen but they just want to look good in the club. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is a thing in the hip-hop industry. I'll be seeing all the rappers they've got, this is like crazy-ass BBL's like, it's unbelievably curved out the game.
Starting point is 01:38:44 If your girl wants a BBL, are you down to pay for it? Yeah, I got a couple of BBOs. She said no. You can get that mommy makeover. Bleed them dry. Take them for whatever you can. Get the BBO, get the Aston Martin. She's so pretty, isn't she?
Starting point is 01:39:02 I'm just kidding. What do you think of her? She's cute, yeah. She's cute, right? She kind of looks like bad baby, right? Bad baby? Is that fucked up? I don't see it.
Starting point is 01:39:11 Yeah, I'm sorry, right? But, yeah. It'll be a white perspective. Yeah. That was me. All right, yo, I appreciate, man. No, thank you, brother. Much love.
Starting point is 01:39:19 Any time. Shout out Blueface. It was good to finally get you on here after a decent hiatus, man. Yeah, it's been a while. Shout out to the Mick Cafe. It's been a while, brother. Anytime, man. That's a real man. Raw Dog on the podcast.
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