No Jumper - Boogie & Bkabytruth on Joining BMF, Big Meech, Blue Davinci and More!

Episode Date: August 29, 2024

Sharp sits down with Boogie and Bkabytruth to expand on how BMF started, Blue Davinci snitch allegations, Detroit rappers, Yachty stealing the Detroit sound, and more! ----- Promote Your Music with No Jumper - https://nojumper.com/pages/promo CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://nojumper.com NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22bro on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Sharp Tank. No jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. And today, my buddy, I think this will mean a lot to me because, you know, my blood may ain't run from Detroit, Maine. That's where I was born. Maybe that's why I got some of this charisma, man. How I move and want to be such a flash.

You did? Hey, man. Hey, we got BMF in the build, may. We got BMF. B and F making. BNF. Maybe truth in the building, May. How y'all feeling today, church?

I'm feeling good. Feeling good, man. It's grand, didn't it, man? It's a good day to be alive. Sure. You hear me? Always, maybe shit, what y'all just flew in? Flew in, yeah, earlier this morning.

What, from the D? Yop, y'all. How was that, man, getting to make sure the trip was cool? Yeah, the trip was always cool to the West Coast. Man, always cool. I'm supposed to bet in how you niggas up in here, man. But shit, it seemed like y'all move like me, man. Should we just, we catch up with it when we can catch up with it?

Oh, for real. That's how I always be with real niggas, man. You know how I'd be? Yeah. We, you know, bummer to each other. It's always an honor, you feel. It's always an honor, man. And I appreciate y'all being able to come sit down,

spend some time with me, man, because I don't think Detroit get enough light. Definitely not. You know, there's a lot of niggas that be feeding from the city. And I think that being you would, you know, truth, I think me and you will be able to dive in on that in just a minute, you know.

But I think that there'd be a lot of shit that, you know, gets overlooked from Detroit. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people don't see that, hey, it's not just some of the faces that you see that's keeping it active, it's some of the faces that you may not always see. Underground, underground.

You know, if I'm not mistaken here, you know. Please, man, give me a little bit of your upbringing, man, a little bit of your background. You know, it's two different upbringing, so I'm going to let my brother go first with his story. Then, you know, I'm going to tell you a little bit about myself. Well, you know, I grew up. up on the west side of Detroit.

Yeah. Like, I wouldn't say an upper middle class area, but if you, at that time in the economy, that's what it looked like. The grass was still green, you know, but it was a lot of hood shit going on. Like, you would see a lot of people on a block at any given time.

Nigs were selling drugs, you know. Needs was just, you know, moving through doing what they do. Right. So my mother tried to the best of her ability to keep me out of that. you know, keep my mind straight on certain different things. But when you go outside and you interact with other people, you know, the reality of the life that you're surrounded by is going to hit you.

So, you know, it hit me kind of hard and I took to it, you know, from probably six to seventh grade, I can't remember the exact. I know it wasn't eighth grade. I was already fully indulged. But like sixth or seventh grade, we used to go to the flea market. and get candy. So my mother would teach us how to put certain amount of candy in the bags

and then sell it. And then I end up going to school, you know, getting with one of my partners. He's saying that his pops have pounds of weed and stuff like that. So he would still him. And he would come to school. The niggas was stealing his daddy's pounds.

Yeah, he was stealing. Come to school, we would break it down and put it in bags, sell it. And then here, you know, put a little money in his dad wallet. We just kept it running like that for a minute. It's daddy never said nothing. Never said nothing because we were putting something in his wallet.

You feel me something? That's different. See, I expected y'all just to take the shit. See, these are different type of energy, though. Yeah, I expected y'all just to take the shit and be like, all right, when he find out, he probably about to be mad than the motherfucker. But when he does find out, we'd have made a lot of money.

I did something like that when I got a little bit older, though, because I had moved out to a place called Canton. So I would go down to Detroit on Joy Road And visit my pop sometimes on the weekend So my uncle came through I ended up grabbing some weed that he had You know, an ounce took that back up To the little white town that I was staying in at the time

And, you know, working my move up there So I ain't never get unk nothing on that I needed that Hey, if I hear this, he bought it on a wall He said, you hear me Because at the time of them, this was about $800,000 Really Hey, I went to time.

Granddaddy purported. He said, yeah, no, he never saw none of that. None of that. It's hard times to bed. That's a bad. That's hard times right now. That's funny as hell, bro. He said he ain't never saw none of that shit.

No, for real. But you say you put some money in this person, Wally, you say so shit, nobody ever said nothing and that's how it came about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was like, for me, it was all. already the hustle instilled in me because I would ask my mother for different little things and she couldn't afford to get me that. Like at the time, Air Force One was $25 and she couldn't even afford that.

Like right now people would be, you know, wearing North faces and all of that. That was like some cheap shit, first down coats and all of that. That shit was cheap. You would get laughed then for wearing stuff like that. So the hustle was already in me from selling the candy like, okay, I can get fast. I can buy this, I can buy that. So my man's came to me with the weed. And it was like, all right, I didn't seen them many of times

in the movies. I'd have been around my pop's people. And you feel me, they're doing their thing. So shit, it gotta be in me. So I just, you know, jumped off the porch and they never looked back, for real, for real. What was the store that they used to do two for 50? Mr. What was that?

Mr. Allen. Mr. Allen. They used to do the two for 50s. Niggins just do the two for 50s. You know what I'm saying? Get any color Air Force ones, whatever. Whenever you go up in there they had the platinum foooboo. They say have all that shit.

Platinum fulble was... Yeah, I remember when my... Yeah, a little iceberg and shit like that. Fat farm, yeah. That was, no, that definitely was an error. So you say y'all came up from that around selling the weed, doing things like that, like where did the music come, like, in the play, like, for y'all? For me, like, my mother was a church going on one, but still is, but at the time,

She was like so engulfed in church and everything. So one day I was coming out of church with her. I seen a hot boy seat. It was the tape. So, and then I listened to that tape, and I knew right then and there I wanted to be a rapper. I'm like, they rapping about everything that's around me that I won't and that I'm a get. I never wanted to do this shit. Never.

No, for real. I ain't a lot. Like, I think the day before I got locked sentence, I went to the studio with this producer. named Knoxville from the Olympics. He playing me some beats. I heard this one beat, I get the writing to it, and I drop it. I get locked up the next day.

You feel me? So I never wanted to rap. So I come home off my first beat, my cousin, like, dog, you hard, rap, rap, rap. I'm on house arrest at the time. Came off your first bid. I just want to back up, because, I definitely want to, like, what you mean? You came off your first bid for what? My first bill was for Flonius Assault, Felony Fire,

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, shit, we don't want to leave out why you, if you don't do it to time, like the nigga had to sit down and come up off and I had to go sit down. I feel like a nigga earned that to talk about that, you know what I'm saying? Like it ain't something that's prior going on, you know, it's just like, shit, that's what they said, my nigga, whatever.

And they got to sit down for a come home and do some house arrest. At the time, it was like, I guess the dudes at the wrong place at the wrong time and mentally, I was in it the right place, you know. So we had a stole, he acting tough, you know. And I just come up off that air, like, you respect a grown man, you know, you respect another man, you know. You don't disrespect. Once it's disrespect, we can't, ain't none to talk about you, you know. So once that happened, I just flew off to the left deep end.

Yeah, I was locked up. Next thing I know, you know. Yeah, you had to sit down real quick. When did you get out from all that? from all that. That was 2014. I dropped my first song in 2014. I got out like the middle of 2016.

Right. I'm catching like the buzz, like everybody like, damn, you rap, now? Like, what's up? But at the time I'm like, this shit, I got to get some money. I'm on house arrest. Just came home. So, you know, I asked for it, catch another case while I'm on house arrest. So now I'm fighting that case.

So, you know, I get the fucking around trying to drop a song here and there. But it wasn't until like my brother actually was like, no, nigger, like, people fucking with you, like, the streets fucking with you, they've been fucking with you. You've been in LA, Vegas, you was doing Atlanta before a lot of these niggas, like, just tell your story and the street's going to fuck with you, you know what I'm saying? So it wasn't until like I ain't allowed to my cousin past when I just came on with my second bid when I was like, I got to do this shit. And it's not even for me, it's really for him.

So that's why I f*** the music. And for you, you said, you was fucking with the music. When I first heard that, uh, that. The hot boys. Yeah, the hot boys is what really did it for you. It did it for me. I'm like, they're living, like, how I'm trying to live and how I'm going to live. Like, it wasn't no doubt in my mind.

For him, he said, you know, he had mentioned off a couple of cities. I'm like, well, shit, he's talking about Atlanta, Vegas, and them is two high spots, you know, for BMF niggas to be around, you know what I'm saying? And I see y'all wearing the chains, like, how'd y'all end up getting caught up with them? You want to tell them? Yeah. Growing up, well, I'm gonna tell it for my part. Growing up and shit.

Meach's daughter used to always be around. I used to see her pull up and vets, range rovers and shit with my brother and shit. And I was like a little kid, like seventh grade. Used to always tell me like, hop in, bro. Hot being. So I just hop being.

We would drive around, take us to get something to eat. We were just like just kicking on some normal shit. I never knew like what the fuck what was going on. You feel what I'm saying? Right. I'm just seeing a young girl flies. hell, diamonds on, freshest hell.

And at the time, bro said, like, we was damn there below, like, middle class. So we got the basic shit on. So when we come around her, we like, damn, you feel me? So it was more so like a family thing, because, like, every time we came around, it was like, oh, yeah, your money no good with me. Like, no, like, oh, we doing this. Like, y'all ain't, y'all can't afford it? Or I can't, like, come kick it with us.

Like, it was more so like a family-based thing. you know, just grew from there, like, being around her. I love to you, Jerseyville? Me, I was, like, already off the porch, so I had started getting kicked out of all of the districts in Detroit. So I ended up having to go to Canton schools, and that's why I met me's daughter. I was kicked out, and then I was, like, selling my little weed,

running around with my guy, Dallas. That was, like, a close friend of hers. Yeah. So, you know, he introduced me into the harder dress. Like, no, these white people were. paying. Fuck that weed shit. So I'm talking about I damn near dropped out of school then was straight just in the streets with him every day all day. Now he telling me like it's me's daughter but it's not registered to me. I'm just like, all right, whatever. As long as we

can keep getting this money and we keep having fun, you know, it is what it is. So we're riding around every day listening to Blue Da Vinci, you know. Everything that they doing, we doing just on the hard level. Down in Atlanta. No, we're doing this in Detroit. No, I know, but I'm just saying, like, because if y'all, them niggas is down there getting game from there too, and they're setting it back.

Let's not get it fucked up if we really look at it, right? They're getting game. They're going down there learning game as well and sending that shit back. So that shit's transpiring. It's going back and forth. Yeah. So it was a thing, like, I don't know if we could have, at the beginning been a part of what dude and it was doing.

We'd never tried to. No, for it. We had our mindset, we're going to do this, we're going to grab this, we're going to do it like this, and we're going to be us, and we're going to handle our business. And it was, you know, it was forming like that, so they had to respect it. Well, I think I'm just trying to figure out, like, how y'all fell under the BMF umbrella. You know what I'm saying? Being somebody, like you said, you knew, you know what I'm saying, his daughter.

Yeah, that's cool. But, like, how y'all even went and grabbed the bruntle? brand of it all, you know. That's what I said. Like, we was already, I came in the gate, working with the work as a kid, doing my own thing, and they, they wondering like, how y'all get money, how y'all doing this, how y'all? We over here doing this, so they had to respect it. So, you know, after a while, you know, when you're in the streets and you're around,

like, you keep bumping into it. You know, it started integrating. It started, like, damn, like, hold on, you ain't just, like a regular person. Like, you got some shit going on, you feel me? And at the time, like I said, when I got out of prison, like, I was gone in, like, in the streets, I was gone in. So it was more so, like, damn, you always around, you grew up my daughter, damn there from, like, when you first jumped off the streets, you know what I'm saying? We always seeing you always around family, every event, you're pulling up, you with family. So it was more so like, man, what the fuck, man, y'all family, like, come on, like, come over here.

You feel me? You're in the streets You never ask You feel me You ain't here For like personal game Like come over here Like

Like you're all Y'all solid Like everything check out Yeah That's what really BMF is Niggas think it's like All right

Meach His cousin his cousin His cousin his cousin It's Dude dude You got a solid person On your end He might have a solid person

On his end He might have a solid person on his end And it's like a melting pot It's a gumbo That's why you got Bloods and BMF You got

Crips in BMF, you got black people in BMF, you got white people in BNF for real. They don't speak on that. Well, I mean, when you look at the city of Detroit, right, and you really chime in on it, it's a really, it's really an family-oriented city. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So when I hear y'all speak on them, I try to think about, like, what was your family's like?

You know what I'm saying? Because Detroit is a family-oriented place. You're saying that, you know, you had your mama, you know, and I'm trying to figure I like who you had like in your corner him what was going on with you see listen that's why I said our story's different because why he was in the city I was on the west coast so you know I had you know big boy I had at the time blue you feel me this before he turned you know deal what he did you know so like how he started off was what did he do I was getting in so much trouble what did he do away well listen what did he do what did he do what what did he do

You're talking about blue. Blue DaVinci? Come on. When it comes to like being solid, like I ain't never, my name ain't never, you know No paperwork or none of that, you feel. So you say his name is on paperwork? I'm saying like- Speak on it, church.

We're here together, Pete. As a solid individual, I say like he ain't right. You feel what I'm saying? Say his name on paperwork. Your name should never be brought up in the same sentence as the Not a damn life. Especially when you're in this lifestyle, man. There's certain shit, certain code.

When you sign up, like they tell you. This is before you even jump off and get us a dollar. Now we cook them with peanut oil. You just don't do that like your name don't mix up in telling and rat and like so. Did you all play that in prison? Man, hell, my. So y'all ain't going to play in the street.

I don't play it out of it. And I think that's why the world fucked up because there's too many people playing it. There's a lot of rats. There's a lot of rats. There's a lot of things. Tell it. They be shining harder than us.

Tell it like a motherfucker. But see, it's worse for Blue because it's a lesion of men that came in under the thing that he built. Now Meach Ariad's thing going. Blue came up with that name, but we ain't gonna get it misconstrued like he didn't come with the name and come with the logo and... BMF.

BMF. So we can say we give the, we, so you're saying that it's not, it's not Big Meach that came up with BMF or the way that they put it out and they portrayed to the world. You say it was Blue DaVinci. He's gonna talk, yeah, like how Blue said. It's actually how it went far as like the beginning. Like, yeah, he ain't lying about none of that. You know, it just, I always say like, bro,

you never know who somebody is until you get locked up or money involved. So you feel me? I don't, you never really know, you know what I'm saying. I mean, this is fascinating. I mean, this is, you know, this is definitely a turn of events because the way that I look at it, the way that they portray it, you know, and the way that they put it out to everything.

whether they put it out to everybody, you know, about BMF and the origin, the story. They constantly show him and, they show Big Meach and Southwest Tea. You know, through a lot of it. Am I correct? You know, you don't really, you don't really see Blue DaVinji coming up with. But he ain't came yet, I think, like, far as in the store. Yeah. You know, they're still in Detroit, then they transfer to like the A.

You know, he don't really crack off into like the California shit, but like, it's BMF shit. I'm gonna be honest with you like. That was him. That was him. I mean, well, they're showing BMF. Well, they're showing BMF. I mean, I'm just trying to get the story straight here.

I mean, because this is something that's different. I think a lot of people, you know, the ones, and how they portray it is, you know, it was Big Meach, Southwest Tea, you know, and others, you know, them linking in with Atlanta and putting together the Atlanta joint. I'm just trying to figure it out like, damn, okay, so you're telling me that Blue Da Vinci was the one that he, even came up with the name, the logo,

because they were showing, you know, being each of them, they've been wearing this since Detroit. I think that's just for the TV show. That's for the TV. I think they probably don't want to hurt blue fillers. To be honest. I have to debunk it because they say this shit is,

you know what I'm saying? It's loosely based. You know what I'm saying? Like, so I'm kind of lost in that mix. I don't think anybody really argued, like, far as in blue, like, with his involvement of even creating that because a lot of superstars to tell you like, no, that's blue light.

Yeah, that's blue. That BMF shit, like, that was him. Like, I'm not even going to, like, a lot of the ways as far as in the music, like, when I wasn't even thinking about music, when he first came home and shit before, you know, everybody got word and shit, you know. I'm down there, right he's in a halfway house.

He's schooling me like, hey, if you do this music shit, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. You know, it was just like, again, you never know who somebody is to, time to get locked up as money abroad. Really, really interesting when you, you know what I'm saying? Because I'm a real nigga, like I'm going to ask questions. I mean, shit, they say and they basing all this shit, like, you know, from the stories

that I heard, I mean, as far back as we can tap into it as YBI, man. I mean, that was the niggas they glorified. Not for real. Coming up with Young Boys Incorporated. Like, I know, I know this. You know what I'm saying? Like, so it fashioned itself behind. It was already kind of hustlers was already coming together.

Of course. As an organization, but Blue really like, He made it where niggas can get federally indicted because he put a name on it. He put a color on it. That's everything you feel, man. This nigga don't know. He made it a stick. He made it to where it could be a week.

Any time you name something, then you can get that RICO. And that's where the, you know, that's where the problem come in. So they are telling some, because I've seen that too, so they are telling the truth throughout some of it because that's what I've seen as well is where it was like. Because you even watch some of the OG's interviews, they had be, they tell you like, man, we ain't wanna do this shit. Like, they used to be like, fuck that shit. You know what I'm saying?

So, it's, yeah. I like this. I'm not going to lie. I like this. That's why I took so long for me to rap because, like, again, with me living on the West Coast with, like, all the, like, oh, geez, like, growing up when, like, my mama sent me to Vegas to live with my grandma and shit. Where you grew up in Vegas?

No, I went to Vegas. Where you grew up at in real? Detroit, Detroit, for real, 7 miles. Right, but where did you go? Because I'm from around Vegas. too, my niggas, so any area you probably name, I'm gonna know. I went to Henderson, I went to Banaza in ninth grade. I got kicked out, well, I went to 10th grade.

I got kicked out 11 grade. You feel me? So I can't really, you feel my way before that. I know, I know Anderson. Yeah. It's okay. It's all right, church tell your story. No, I listen, I love, listen, I love,

listen, I love Vegas. I love Vegas, but you know, it was more stuff. Everybody always trying to put that shit in their back pocket. I don't get it. What? Like, my people came from Vegas like Vegas. Like if you're going to move, because my people came from the D to Vegas, you know what I'm saying? Bro, like the first time we lived out there was a West Side.

I don't think I'd be as groomed, like, for real, because Vegas, like, you grow up fast, you see a lot of shit. You feel me? Like, people say Detroit you grow up fast, yeah, but- You scared of me. That nigga came back in Vegas, man. Man, I came back a band. Yeah. That's what I want to hear.

I love that shit. Is that you came back in advance. I'm talking about like, I was shopping some, like, then, oh, geez, I feel like. It fucked me up. That's what I came to Vegas, bro, start going to Daigo. I'm bouncing back and forth from San Diego to Vegas, my nigga. I don't know why it happened like that just did. I'm from, like, I was born in Detroit, bro.

My family came this way. We was, I was a kid, bro. We grew up on the west side of Vegas, nigga, where shit was really cracking. We all was going back and forth to cops. You go up there, you're up there. I don't know how old are you terms? 27.

27? So, nigga, it's 10 more. You're like, I was, we was there from the D. You know what I'm saying? So I remember, I'm like, shit, Nika, keep that shit real. Nick, if you was over there a good old hinder tuckie,

nigga, you was over there. I was, but listen, like, the thing, like, I can't really say because I was only out here in Vegas for, like, three years. But then three years, I learned so much being around

all the OGs. Like, when I went back to Detroit, I was into school, but, like, I already knew what I wanted to do on life, so it was like, get school, cool, and shit, but, man, what's up?

You know. You already had it in your bloodline, bro. Yeah. That's why. And it's dope. That's what I say, don't leave Vegas in your rearview. You know what I'm saying? Because if it helped build you to be able to bring that shit back to the deep,

my nigga, that's what it did. You know what I'm saying? And that's why I like being able to sit down and have these type of conversations because this shit's important. Don't leave behind nothing, bro. Yeah, I can't. No, I can't never leave Vegas out. Because it built a piece of you.

You know what I'm saying? What I say right there? How can I leave that Vegas out, man? That's seven-old douche. Come on, man, I say 3-13. Yeah, for sure. I ever leave Vegas out, man. For show.

For show. I never do that. Yeah. No, it's just, it's live because, you know, it just shows how far it reached. You know what I'm saying? And where, like, it's touched. I feel like BMF these days is a, it's a brand. I think that's what it was always set out to be.

That's what Blue did. It probably got caught up. But that's why he so fucked up about it. Because he wanted it to be a brand, and he did some things, and now he can't be a part of that. brain it's like yo i don't know you see you're seeing the paperwork i'm not this i'm not here i'm not here to throw and i want to hear i'm not here to throw uh shade or darkness i'm you know i want to hear from y'all though so i want to hear from y'all like you know what i'm saying no

every time you go to court any and everything that said in court is transcripts from that of course this guy went on the stand and said I would like to tell you guys more but I've told everything I can tell tearfully eyed Marion McKnight Barian McWitt what is it Brian Brian McNight

Yeah That's what he did He had already told information that other people told And then the other information He told is in a safety valve Only he has a paper grown You run in a hot like your mama come outside You're on your brother

she's like, who threw the rock? She'd take y'all in there and none of y'all say nothing. You'd be like, hey, mama, he's through the rock, right? So then she comes grab you. Boom. Your brother told me you threw the rock. And you'd be like, listen, man, you know what?

You're right. But, bro, went, nah. She already know where the rock came from, you feel me? We just said came to the job. I know y'all want a little bit of a good. Can we get a couple cups for them? We'd say it came from Johnny, the rock came from Johnny. Boom.

Mama already know it came from Johnny. You would come in there and be like, well, listen, yeah, I threw the rock, but he already came from Johnny. Mama already noticed because she already has seen it. So you're already giving up information that mama already know. So I'm basically saying that he gave up information that was already given by other people that already was, you know, snatched up. So in court, you know how that go.

That's a safety vial. Right. but so y'all saying you ain't supposed to talk at all at all you ain't supposed to talk at all and y'all really because i mean only reason i bring it up because we've obviously seen um a collective few yeah be able to hit certain stands you know um they're still rocking with some of these certain individuals you know and they've went on to make money and you know they've went on to have fame you know and notoriety But you, I got you, but you're saying that for him it wasn't the same. Like Blue DaVinci, he got no go, he got no pass.

I say this, maybe it was before the six, nine error. It was before some of the niggins. Like, for real, like when he got, you know what I'm saying, when the problems start happening with him, it was before some of these people. He been locked up before. I think it was him really like. For six months, nine months of year. Just trying to find some likeness.

I think it's really, him being that, like, when you really that and you tell, it's like, different like it's just different. Like when people look to you more so like a superhero. Yeah. In the hood. It's like, it's different when you tell. It's like, ain't no coming back from that. Because at one point you got to understand he was doing all this shit off the muscle.

So you got all these diamonds, all these fast cars off the muscle. Niggas looking at you in the hood like a superhero. Like, nigga if he can do it, I can do it. I knew it. So if you can tell bro, a niggas look at that different. Like, man, it's different than six and I telling because it's like he

He's an entertainer. That nigga. Yeah, he a rap. He ain't come around for him. But you're a superhero. You're told. Come on. It's like Batman.

It changed my out. You feel me. What the fuck? Yes, it don't, you don't hear them stories too much. It don't resonate well, man. When it's somebody that's been in the streets. You know what you're, who y'all, you're all f***ed with, man. Because you know what I love about y'all because y'all know he was a rap, but you still give him love for what he did.

It was like, you know what he did? You can't. You can't erase history. You can't, no, no, no, we ain't gonna say that because like, we have to. You feel me, I'm big like, standing on like coals and shit, but you can't erase history and we're not going, you feel me, take them out of history. But then that'll be us being flawed on our end, you know, at one point of time we was kicking it with them, you know what I'm saying.

But we ain't going to erase history, but what it's done is done, nigger, you bow. So we gotta treat you as such. But if a nigga asks where a starter from, from you. No, I say you on night. I ain't tripping. You know, at the end, they ain't niggas being real, man. Shit, they kicked Steve Jobs out of Apple, didn't it? Come on, man.

Right. I ain't tripping that he made it. No, that's crazy, man, because, you know, you sit back and you listen to a couple of brothers that be like, hey, man, I, uh, shit, we pretty much looked up to him for what he did, and then to come to find out that he, uh, he wasn't solid in the ends got to really rattled the hornets nest. You do? You know what I mean?

You do. Do you feel like that changed the dynamic of BMF when that all happened and did everybody stays strong? I'd be feeling like, I can't speak for like the OGs, but like if I, like, was, ain't they sure when something that big and like so much shit going on, it's bound for somebody to crack like, it's bound, you know what I'm saying? So I knew like, they probably like knew it would happen. They probably just fucked them up.

Who did it? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But you got to know, like when you. That big, so much shit going on, it's about to happen. Everybody ain't born from the same codes, you know. Do you feel like that's everywhere in anything? When there's like something that's going on at that magnitude,

it's only going to be a handful that's real. A shit, a lot of other people just there along for the rock. I feel, yeah, because you only is real as your reality. You know? If you ain't come from a place like me and bro, no matter what you would have did, me and him, we're going to be solid through it all, Because where we came from and the things that we've seen and been through.

Yeah. Yeah. You only is real as your reality. Let's pivot back to the music. Where do y'all feel like the state of Detroit rap is today? And where do you feel like it's headed? We're growing. We're growing to be one of the biggest.

We just got to keep going. I heard somebody say we just got to get the business right. I think that's all the thing that's missing. Like somebody coming there and really showing Detroit, like the business part. Like, if we can make music for days, you know. We got the style, we got the charisma. It's just the business part. Like, I feel like people feel like if I help this person, it'll stop me.

But if they showed them their business, like, no, you can help him and do you and like to see and get a couple dollars. It'll help us grow faster. But it's going to look. I like that because, you know, I feel like for the D, it's definitely been growing. I mean, we've seen a lot of artists come about in Detroit just a minute. as you getting bass. Yeah. Overall, you know what I'm saying?

What's some of the artists out there that you feel like, you know, got potential that aren't going other than, you know what I'm saying, like that aren't going, don't got the know the right, don't got the money to put behind them, but like people need to probably be on the lookout for. Depots. Yeah, I really like him. Yeah.

He like, I ain't going to say he was one of the founders of Detroit drill, but him, Snap Dog, I really like they style. Yeah. A lot of people out of baby money camp. I have to say, probably R.T.K. Big Shea. Oh, yeah, risk taker, D-boy. Yeah, Risk Taker D-Boy.

Skeech. Shit. Like you said, Snap Dog. Even somebody out of Toledo, man, my dude, Big Ram. Like, it's some heat coming out of Michigan. And just like the, like, the corner part. The parts of Michigan, man. We got some heat.

It's around the States. We got some heat, bro. You know, I don't know if this is the first time you all ever heard it or this is just me. I mean, because I hear about it here and there. You know, they try to say, you know, Detroit music and, you know, the Bay Area music is kind of a lot of like. My trip, when they say, they say, like, you know, is, you know what I'm saying?

Detroit, when you listen to Detroit and Bay Area music, it's got a lot of similarities. Yeah. I go back in history. with Detroit. A long time since the street. Let's talk about it. Let's on back. This is what matters while we're here.

You know, it's like, and they got rose name the same as ours, so you know, shit like that's like we like cousins for real. I'm about to say that like when your cousin come over your mama house, you feel, be. You're going to take some swag for them. They're going to take some swag for you. You're going to run back to your respected neighborhoods. Bitch is what I learned from my cousin. You ain't going to say you learned it, but bitch, you're going to learn from my cousin this week.

You always, you're always going on. You being on both sides, like you being able to, you being well travel you know what I'm saying you being living on the west coast do you see any similarities being on the west coast versus being Midwest because the Midwest is Detroit sitting right there smack in the middle do you feel like Detroit gets shit late or do you feel like they uh they you know they'll set the tone for certain things you know be able to set trends I believe we set trends but other people take it and run with it to the masses first yeah to the masses first then it'll take somebody to be like no that got

from a D nigga. Then we, you know, we get the credit later on like, like, like, you know, people just start wearing a, but we've been wearing a bitch since decades. Yeah, and the big rings like this. You know, the pimps used to have them back in the day, but, you know, a lot of us in Detroit, we like the big rings, you know, we like to spell out our name. And now you're starting to see everybody coming back out with the minks. Come on, man. You know, you know. It happened in Chicago, but, man, you know, Detroit used to wear the bitches to the flow, man, you know, furs and gators, man, you know, so. I feel like we always set trends, but they're picking up on it late.

You know, I look at it like this, right? Like even coming from the game, because, you know, I came from a Pimp game. Shit, if you really look at it, bro, it's rappers and people that have money, entertainment, shit like that, they dress like Pimps like Pips did, bro. Big God and jewelry. Oh, I say that. Like, like, niggas been having this shit. Like, it wasn't flashy. It was a way of life.

You know what I'm saying? So they've been stealing from the culture, homie, for a long time. You know what I'm saying? And that's why I even be looking at him. Like, damn, you accept your local rapper. I guess because he ain't checking the trap off the bitch. He's still wearing the same jewelry, you know what I'm saying? He's not a bit for shit because you want to give me something.

No. Because you can't get that. They can't get that. That's what it is. They got to spend all there. Yeah. No. Like even going back to the D and for y'all, man, like for the music.

Because I'll definitely want to talk to you about it because I seen that you had a little riff about that She was a little upset that you felt like you don't like people coming and stealing You know what I'm saying? It's still in the culture and there was one name that I heard you bring up and I was like damn the Nigger really didn't get like I'm not saying he didn't already have notoriety and who I'm talking about is Lill Yachty Like you know what I'm saying like I'm not saying he didn't have no notoriety but it seemed like once he went got caught up with the Detroit niggas You know what I'm saying? He was over there fucking in that water.

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? He's over there fucking with bees. Swim a little bit better now. He was just over there in Michigan, period. He was over there fucking with V's. Arm C. Mike. Rio Young O.G. Like he's over there fucking with all these niggas

and he's hopping on tracks. I noticed that the style of music did change. Yeah. But see, listen, that go back to like the 60s and the 70s. We used to have an area called the Black Bottom where it was all predominantly black and a lot of entertainment and everything.

Stars were comfort. from around the world to go see that. So it's just an imitation of back then. You know, but what I don't like that he did is, you came, you stole the sound for as long as you needed it when your flame was burning out, and then you got the fuck on. You still kind of piggyback on that sound every now and then,

but I don't see you putting them artists on. I don't see them on CDs with you that you're, you know, really pushing out to the masses. It's like you went and hung around, put niggas on mixtape shit and just hurry up and skip past it. You know, so that's why I don't respect about it. I'm not gonna lie, bro. I think they did, uh, that's when they all came together, they did that 3 a.m.

The 3 a.m. join, I don't know if y'all heard that when they all came together. I was locked up when that came out. I ain't gonna lie to shit went crazy. That was probably the hardest verse. Like, to me, like, people could say what they weren't. Like, if you really gonna listen to that verse, that nigga did not rap like he normally does. Yeah. I know he was hanging around some guys.

Or he had no writing for him. Because I heard he had a prolific writer himself. So when you're a prolific writer, you really can scan the room. So he probably, you know, just soaked it up. But I still don't respect it. I don't lie to you. No, there's nothing. This is what needs to be said, bro, because, you know, I think that shit gets overlooked.

Because, you know, if we don't say nothing now and this is no diss to him, it's going to keep happening. And nobody going to notice it and they're just going to keep taking off the top. And nobody who's supposed to really get the fuck up from around that muck is blowing up. And see you feel so comfortable doing it sharp because these niggas is so photo op happy. You feel what I'm saying? I ain't never been photo hop happy with none of these niggins. I haven't seen a lot of these niggers

at Naderhouse when I used to kick it in Vegas with my natter. Yeah, Nader and yada. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying a lot of different. I didn't see a lot of different things and I didn't have been around a lot of different things. So I ain't never been a nigga that was so photo op happy.

And what a person got to understand is when you got something special, a motherfucker watching and then recreate it. Now, it might come to you naturally, but if a person really just sitting back and they jotting that shit down in their mind, they can recreate it. Well, Natter, man, natter, my nigga, yeah. That's my name. Natter, Natter, that's my homie.

Yauta, that's my nigga. You know what I'm saying? Oh, shit, that's my nigga. You know what I'm talking about, though? You know what I'm talking about, though? Oh, my nigga, though. Oh, like, listen. Bro, me and that nigga, we went back to where when I was even doing music, that nigga

was an enforcer. Like, he's pushing the lines. He was one of them niggas, you always wanted around because he was always respected. He, like, man, he loved me, bro. Like, that's my nigga. Right now, I'll call him. He'd be like, man, what you want, though? You know what I'm saying?

That's, yeah, you name off some real. See, I've seen them a few times. Yeah. If y'all was on the West Coast, it was so crack. It was, did. You had to be around. 13, 14, 15? I'm saying, man.

I'm riding ass to barring the dump. Man, I'm gonna'all. Listen, I crashed so many businesses and left so many businesses in Vegas. I'm talking about left from Shark. Like I'm gonna come back when I fly back and then I forget what they is. I had to buy a whole new. I was having my way. I was having my way.

I was having money during COVID. They better start getting some years together. Man, like Rolex. It was really. It was different. It was different. Yeah. Me and my cousin A-shut should have the West Coast cracking, man.

Yeah, man. You know, I think. back on it like I don't know how y'all was doing made shit up and through that COVID but I never got none of them checks I never played with none of that shit I didn't have to hold COVID. But it seemed like the streets were doing well. Because you know why I feel like it went back to

the basics? You feel me like it wasn't an extra You know what I'm talking about. A lot of people talk down on the basics and they like to go with new age type of things on the carpet and things of that nature. But listen I was always taught when you do something you learn from the beginning

and then you learn everything thing else in between. That's how you're going to always stay updated. So if ever that system crash, you always go to the basics. You can go back to the base. I ain't good. That's why the hug. I brought the most jewelry I could buy because them niggas was getting them checks. I ain't good. Because the niggas was getting them checks and everybody was spinning, spinning, spinning, spinning, spin. That's why I always say, man, you know, and it was crazy because, you know, some of the interviews that I did, like, you know, during that time, like, I would tell people, I'm like, man, if you really see, like, it really proved the theory that if nobody can really move around, what do you do?

Who are you? No, for real. Your job don't stand for nothing. You ain't got that. Like, what's you going to do? Yeah, you're getting a couple checks? What you're going to do? You're going to sit there and play scared?

There's a lot of niggas that went back to being born again footballers. Not for real. Got their asses right outside and got moving. I mean, shit, nigga, I remember 2014, 2015. Nick, I'm in Miami. Just a nigga fresh off a case. They ain't even sense me yet. Yeah. Now I'm riding four and I just sent a card on there fucking.

I ain't gonna ride nobody else shit and I ride my own. You know what I'm outside because I don't know if they're gonna take a nigga to jail or not. And then shit, didn't do that and then got fucked up and then now we're here. Now we're here. Straight up, bro. Like, I want to know because a lot of people I don't think they hear about it enough. You know, you brothers being from the D, being having to face the adversity that's around there, especially in the music scene. You know what I'm saying? Because even though it's a family

orientated city, they're not letting everybody on when they come to the music. They're not supporting everybody when they come to music. People want to kind of be more standoffish when it comes to that. So I definitely want to know from both y'all, how has that been or have you gotten all the love that you feel like you need to receive? I just dropped the tape called D.F. Don. You know, it's on all platforms, boogie BMF. I just feel like since I dropped, I'm getting a love, but I feel like more can be given. Because like I said, before I did this music shit,

okay to say that, bro. Before I did this music shit, like I always was a solid individual, you know? So I'm reposting people's shit, just, you know, showing them love. And like I say, I always got my own platform, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.

So it'd be like, I peep it. But then again, it'd be like, this shit for a bigger cause, so I don't really give a for real. Because I know once, like, I'm truly hurt, you're gonna have to come with their back end. something. I don't really care. I don't feel like you hear a lot of...

He's going to give me this drink before I answer the question. You fucked up. What you mean? I'm just being a good hoax. I just thought about that. You fucked up. We're just rolling, hey, man, I'm just making a show that you, you know, everything is everything here, baby. You dig what I'm saying?

I love having y'all here, man. And just some of the shit that y'all had said was like, I don't expect that. I'm going to be real with you. Like somebody and just knowing it, I can tell y'all stand behind it. That's something that y'all really believe in. Just when they come to the, And no, this is like the Blue Da Vinci shit.

And you're just like, yeah, I give him his roses. A lot of niggins would have just smudded certain people. But you talked about it the way it landed and the way that if people know they should understand. You know what I'm saying? So I definitely do respect that. But you know, I go back to even just the music for Detroit. You know, you'll hear, you see a few get on, but you'll never hear him really talking about how it's very supportive when it comes to the music. You know what I'm saying?

Well, I ain't gonna lie sharp. I've been ripping and tearing these streets up for a minute. Yeah. Getting money in these niggas faces. Yeah. So it was a thing where I dare a nigger to come on here and lie. I dare a nigger too. It was a thing where, you know, niggas want to get up with you.

You know why they got their little investors investing in the music. You're not even thinking about that. You're doing street shit, but you're just out and about having fun. Yeah. It go from that to now you're interested in the shit. shit and now niggas got deals and shit. So it's like now you're trying to get on.

Niggas feel like you gave them, you know, your ass to kiss. So it's like I didn't have so many her so many niggas from different producers, different artists like, yeah, I was just with such and such and they said, don't with you and this, this is that and the third. So, you know, that's why

I feel like I haven't got on because I put my catalog up to any nigga in Detroit, any nigga in the world for real. I got over, what, 55 projects out. None of the music sound the same. You know what I'm saying? And I've been working on my craft for a while,

and I don't drop no bullshit. So, you know, I get a lot of love outside the city. But in the city, you know, they're trying to hold a knee down. They're trying to put their nuts on me. So, you know, that's why. To be so family, to be known as such a family-oriented city, it seems like it don't really fall into the music industry too much. It's family orientated when niggas put money behind you and you know, you're wearing

jewelry that niggas put on you so, you know, they can limit what you're saying, what you're doing. They can't limit me, they can't stop what I'm saying or stop what I'm doing. You know how I know you've been around for a while? You still wear your chain low. You feel? Hey, tell a lot about a nigger. For real, like you ain't changed for nobody and for none of the times, yeah, you got a couple

that's up, but like you still wear one that means some two niggins and low. It's like, and to me, that's when you know a nigger the low, keep you. been around and he ain't changed, bro. He's an old young nigga. Real. Learned it for real. I love that, bro, and just to even be able to hear it and it's fucked up and it's unfortunate to know like you don't really feel like you get the support 100% because I get that

rapper love. You know, when you see niggas out, hey, what up, baby? Take my number. Then you send a nigga the song. You can't even get in contact with the name. Yeah. See, I don't know. Like I said, I ain't never want to do this shit.

I don't know. Well, niggas's scared of you, bro. If this hot shit goes. Hey. Liggas, my, Joe, he's scared to you. Hey, listen, if I'm saying, I don't know this hot as shit go or, you feel me. That's why I don't really be looking for niggas

like to, like, do shit with me because I'm like, this shit coming from a real place, you know, like, I'm telling stories about, like, you feel me, I've been locked up, you feel me? I'm going through this shit. I'm locked up beds trying to call me out my motherfuck of room. a room try to ask me about some shit why I'm damn near six months out of the dough for my other case you feel what I'm saying so I'm talking from a real place so I don't give

a f*** of a nigger hop on my shit or not you feel me I'm actually one time but if you ask me or if you say let's do something and then we can't get together it's like why you even say that because I ain't coming your office and I'm over here with these bitches that's why I feel like you feel me prison like teach you differently because like being in prison it teach you like niggas gonna move like that you feel me like I've seen every type of I feel like character it is, you feel me? So I know a nigga gonna play like that. I just know when it comes my time,

that back in going to be crazy. And it's coming. It's gonna be crazy. Because this shit from a real place. Do you feel like, because we can't leave him out, like, you know, Big Meach. He's set to be released, if I'm not mistaken here. Yeah, very soon.

You know what I'm saying? That shit's right around the corner, homie. This is the next day coming. Do you feel like it'll help change the dynamic for people? who are doing music and trying to really get into, do you feel like it's gonna put a better spotlight back on BMF than where it's at right now?

Yeah, that shit gonna be global. I don't even think he know like, would he come home to? I don't even think the world like in grads was about to happen. Because we ain't never seen it like, you know, the Mexicans always be having, they, you know, people that come home, the Italians had their people that come home

and they praise them how they praise them. We ain't never had nobody to. that magnitude come home, you know, so it's like... That's real as hell, though. What the fuck? Because when you look at it, even with gangs in the West Coast, some of the... You know what I'm saying? There's some people they're not letting out if these people did come home.

You know what happened? What's going to change? And it's fucked up because it's like, I think they know that. That's why they try to keep a grasp on it, homie. So they know some of these niggas is reformed. Some of these niggas is really not trying to come out. Like at all. That was their younger years and they're still treating them like, nah, nigga, somebody

can persuade you as soon as you come out and make you want to go back to doing something dirty. You know what I mean? They just know when a man like that come out, like, you're going to raise, like, and it's going to be so many people that become bosses once you come home. You create jobs. You create different avenues with people to get real legit money and you know, no disrespect. But the white man hate that shit for real, man. because you don't need him

you don't need his platform you is the platform but you know what I'm gonna tell you this don't ever block your blessings just because you feel like that's what it is sometimes you gotta be able to move through the barriers homie still create yours

take what you need what you can get hey dog there's always I think when we feel to realize it is what goes up must come down dog yeah for real learn and grasp that and don't ever feel like man shit with a white

man, a black man, shit. You can go through the same shit with the black man. You go through the white man. You know what I'm saying? We might go through worse because the nigga felt like he knew us. You get what I'm saying? Like keep your mind open to that one, bro. Like don't just fall so close by.

Like, you know, the white man want to keep us down. Hey, man, shit. A lot of motherfuckers, hey, I'm going to tell you this, homie, I met all walks of life that wanted to try to keep me down. You feel me? I don't really got no, uh, I don't know. Maybe that's just me walking through and kind of singing. in it, but I'm trying to trust a little bit of everybody,

and they all fuck-ups. So, I mean, shit, I feel like we need to just watch a bra. A bra, yeah. You did? Straight up. Yeah, that shit's interesting, though, man, for, like, Detroit and where it stands today because a lot of people, you see the music,

but you don't hear nobody really screaming me. You know what I'm saying? Like, you see the music, and there's certain niggas that's really making it, but has that really blown open the door? That's the problem for me, because, that'll go back to what I was saying. Niggas be so photo op happy that, okay, we got a couple

of artists that's blowing up, but we got everybody on the global scale taking our style, and then every once in a while they put a Detroit artist on the song on the CD. Now, you've been taking our style in front of the camera, your whole press run,

and now the niggas hitting on the CD. Now, I don't understand shit like that. I mean, I'm looking at it like this, bro. I think it's really about just popularity. Back when you know, BMF and things like that was started, it wasn't too much social media. It wasn't too much to where people

can kind of front these days. You know, you just kind of had to hear about it. It was more word of mouth. Now you got people, man, shit, they can get online and post whoever they want to be and try to make it look better than you and they really ain't living like that. People just care about what they see.

What they see, yeah. You know what I mean? I would respect an artist being able to put out some music. I like this music. And then by the time I seen him, I don't get fuck. He got the smallest chain on in the world. I believe everything this thing is said. I feel like he didn't really been through that.

These days, you got to put that up there first. That's why the music got trash. That's why you don't hear. They put the image first. They put the image first these days when the music was put first. Now it's like when you've seen the nigga, you was in awe. If he had all this song. Like, damn, he really living that shit made the nigga more of a fan.

When they seen Jeezzie, like back in the day. Listen, man, this is definitely talk about him. I definitely want to know, you know what I'm saying, about the situation. Because y'all seem like y'all very knowledgeable to it. So, like, I would definitely want to know, like, where the Jeezie situation came to play. From what I heard, that was never even really his name. I feel like he got that with BMF. Like, that's where he really got the name Jezy.

He used to go by, like, Little Jay. I heard him. That's what he used to go by, right? And they was like, nah, Jeezy sound hard. The nigga blew up. You know, that was another one of Blue Project. That's Blue Little Man. Yeah.

Yeah, because he is, even though he's there. But no, that's blue, like, understudy for real. No disrespect to G's, you know, and everything he became. But, you know, when he came in the pictures, like, that's all meet scene. Yeah. But entertainment and for BMF, like, these are, that's the status quote. Like, everybody is dressing like them, looking like them, moving like them, you know. But all that comes from blue.

Yeah. Well, you know, you have seen it in them. mentioned earlier you said it's about a TV show shit wasn't even the TV show shit I'm watching the documentaries the bios like and they never really brought him up like that throughout any of it so you know to mask him out of everything is is crazy I mean because you got to understand like it will you know before you know it was entertainment and it was not entertainment let them tell it you know you don't what I'm saying so who founded the entertainment it was blue so you know that's what it is

yep that's what it is that's what it was that's what it was let's what it was let me correct myself yeah y'all came after the fact yeah of all that yeah that's when y'all start during that during that after it was like towards like the uh the ending like I came around like 2003. Everybody was still out. Everybody started getting indicted like around 2005. Yeah. I was around.

I remember back in the day, just being around me's daughter, her dad was, you feel me, you still able to call them and all that. Like I said, we didn't want to try to engulf ourselves so much in what they was doing because we never wanted the stigma of being them. You feel what I'm saying? Like I even carried that along to a couple of the years ago. when I started doing music, like everybody in my city knew what I was, and people around in different little cities knew what I was.

But musically, I never proclaimed that because I always wanted to be, you feel, me, what I set out to be, you know? Yeah. And I put this shit on, bro, because I ain't going to cap to you, bro. My brothers, my cousins, my uncles are doing time, serving time for that shit, bro. And I didn't see too many niggas come home. bro and they shine lights on these niggas and forget about these OGs that stand up me in like Jay Bow eels you feel me like dude like oohie you feel me that stand up me in like and they ain't

broke the cold bro they don't get the light shined on them you know what I'm saying so anytime they feel me the camera getting on you feel me free my dogs you know it's what it is that's what it's going to be and ain't shit bigger than this shit honestly no definitely no it's definitely fascinating because I'll be real with you bro nobody cares about the older generation no my homie that's why you don't hear them being they don't they don't they don't they don't listen to me no I'm for real see it them boogie let me let me say this no let me say this I'm being real dog like because I come from the older generation I'm telling you what I see what I know these niggins don't give a they don't they don't they

don't glorify that shit they feel like they know listen they feel like man bro you see No, no, I'm not. No, no, no, the streets. There's nowhere I can't go. And I've been talking about, I've been doing this since 12 years old. I'm talking about booking the flights myself. Yeah. It ain't no place that I'd ever went that.

The streets don't love them. Well, I'm telling you this, bro. They can love you behind closed door. They'll never tell you. But listen, I'm telling you. The show with the actions. Right. But behind closed doors, they're your biggest fan.

That's why I don't even, I understand. Granted. Granted. But where I'm at with it, is this they don't really respect it no more because they don't feel like the OGs they want something and what i call instant gratification they want it handed to him yeah they don't want you they don't do that no more to where a nigga give you some game and you go take it you go apply it they want you oh this nigga he ain't put nothing in my hand he ain't give me 10,000 he can't give me this he

ain't give me that how's that my OG so that's where i'm at with it you know what i'm saying you know what I'm saying like yeah there's something that respect it but there's a lot that don't bro And that's why it's really fucked up out here and you got niggins playing with guns like they cap guns and broad daylight playing robbers on robbers. You feel me? Like, come on, dog. No, that's real shit. OGs ain't letting that type of shit. OGs ain't never gave a shit.

Like, niggins be like, oh, you could rap. All right, well, listen, this is what I got these coming in. What you could do with it? Do you make your money? Like, niggas ain't never. So no, they never gave us none. But I respect them more and it made me to, it made us with, to who we are.

Yeah. Niggas sold us a lot of dreams. For real. I ain't a lot. Like, being on the West Coast, I soaked up a lot of game, bro. And, like, I'm a type of person. You give me game that's worth more than money,

you know what I'm saying? Because I know, like, being out here, if I just get the game, bro, I'm ahead of a lot of people. And I feel like that's why I'm still around. When did you come to the West Coast? I came into West Coast my ninth grade year. So, like, I think I was like 15.

How do you know? 27. 27? Yeah. Yeah, I remember you told me that, yeah. No, bro, I grew up out here all my life. I'm front of these. So, y'all, I can't before you, bro.

Trust me, I've seen this shit. They do move fast, my nigga. I don't watch them build shit up and tear shit down, and I was still standing strong, especially in Vegas, my name Reel's around that motherfucker. Like, for real, for real. It ain't no secret, no bushes, niggie out and terrorized shit.

When I first came down, my first incident was me, I think the niggins was called Gersham Parks or something like that. They tore down the Gersons. Gersons don't even stand no more. Yeah. My first run there was with them when I came out there. A monster around here.

I swear they got. Terrorizer. They like, damn, Detroit, you standing like that? I'm like, yeah, they're like, okay, if we f*** with you? Yeah, yeah. I'm like, yeah. It's still some GPs, but they ain't really like, they tore the actual Gersons. Yeah.

They are gone. Damn. Yeah. Real shit. That's crazy. Vegas raised a lot of lie, a lot. Respectable, solid people, bro. People just think this shit just all.

slot machines and hotels, no. It raised bosses, bro. I ain't gonna lot. Like, even like seeing a life, bro, fire the music, shit. I ain't really see that until like, like, Yada for real. Like, like, like, seeing like Ross and all them, like, Filty Rich used to pull up to the cream of all that. Like, they just the home music shit.

Before the Detroit shit. I used to see all that. Like I said, I was in vain. Hey, Tracy T used to always see us at rehab. I was a man. My name falls with all them. This Vegas, bro. Being everywhere.

Vegas for here, my nigga. Like, for real. It's still, like, Vegas used to be different. Yeah, it's a different time, but like, it's just like, my nigger shit, I've seen everything I was gonna see in Vegas. I was gonna see in Vegas. I'm shopping out there too long, bro. It ain't really like, I'll be wanting to get other places.

Like, you know what I'm saying? Straight up. Like Vegas, yeah, it's a beautiful place on me. If you can get around there and really network, network. But don't ever just sit there and sit because that shit to take your ass down, my nigger real quick. I don't watch, like I just said before, I don't watch niggas pull up. up, hit phantoms, and leave with a shoe string hold of their pants on the Greyhound, niggins.

So you got to know how to really move in that city. That shit ain't for no play. Yeah, it'd be sounding cool. Yeah, lights, camera, action, nigger, but you better know how to move. Straight up. I'm really from around there, too, bro. Like, that's really one of my sexual say, you grew up over there at Henderson, my nigger. My nigger, wasn't much going on over there, my nigga.

We was more in the inner city. Because that's where that shit was really going from southwest all the way to the west side, all the way to north town, all the east side. I'm, see, my cousin used to be stepping through there. Yeah, it's money. You got it like, yeah, really, I was on a strip nigga at 16, bro, 15, pippet. But they're really down. I would have seen me.

I was on something. No, I was on outside on the bitch. You see, you know what I said? I had to stop myself. On something else, though. You feel me? I was outside, though. It was only like me and probably like two other young niggas at the time, bro, when I started.

Everybody else was on. Brother, I ain't gonna lie to you. I can't even cap to you. What the hell was you doing out on the strip? Because. Oh, brother, man. Tell me, man. You know what I need to know before we get about here?

Mm-hmm. What do you want the people to know? Like, what message are y'all sending here today? I like to say first, man, my EPI right now, D.F. D.F. D.D. on all platforms. Check it out. It's cool. I fuck with you. I appreciate that, brother. You feel me? I'm just coming from a real place, man. I'm telling my story how, where I come from, what I was going through. what I'm currently going through, you know.

I ain't like one of these other rappers that's going to tell you a dream, you feel me. The street's fucked up. I ain't going to lie. I'm been in prison, out of prison, house arrest, oh, you feel me, back in. So it's like, with a real one, you know. That's all I got to say.

My dad. If you want to hear how a real Detroit player put it down, man, that ain't going to tell you no lies. They ain't job. It ain't playing. Come f*** with me. That's all I got to say. I ain't going to ever stop doing music

no matter if it get big or if it don't get big. Every other month I'm trying to drop a tape. And right now I've been doing like three or four tapes a month. So just come get you something, man. Hey man, I say this. We need to drop us one together.

Why not? We might as well. I heard you fucking. I need to start doing it. I'm tired of, yeah. I'm tired of like I'm f*** with all these rappers and niggies that come through and I'm like, man, shit, church.

I feel like that's the best way to get acquainted. Man, I'm up in the booth. man, drop a verse and we put something together. You gotta do some peace shit, though. Man, bro, that's all I'm really trying to do. I left that G shit along a long time ago. That's all I'm really trying to do, right?

You did? We can definitely get on something, man. We can put something together. I appreciate y'all both slide through here. And coming and rocking with me, man, and trying to, you know what I'm saying? Just shine some light on this shit, man, because a lot of people I feel like they ain't really know. You know what's really going on?

Like, shit, you woke me up to some game that, shit, I thought I knew that I knew that I You know what I'm saying? And I'm a stand on your truth. Baby truth, so hopefully, bro. That shit, you know, because I'm definitely going to go check it out after this. I'm like, man, I gotta go really see because Blue the Bitch, that's crazy. Well, I was about to say that before this end, man. This shit wasn't really even about that, man.

It's about all the solid individuals that kept it real. You feel me, that didn't tell. You feel me, that's still got this shit on their back. You feel me that did it for their family, man. And ain't take another man down because of their mistakes, man. That's all this about at the end of the day. It's about a brotherhood of solid individuals. That's why I gave dog his roses and we cut, uh, uh, uh,

because we got to get back into the real individuals. You feel me, that's stood up, that stood tall, you feel me. Free dude, free J-Vo, free Owee. You feel like y'all are the ones that's bringing, you all feel like y'all are the ones that's really bringing it back the true essence of being there. It never left because it's like when dude, left, he handed it really to us.

So the first thing I did, I tattooed it on my back. I don't have nothing else on my back, but BMF for life. And I kept it pushing like that, every city, every state. I always put it in their face up. And I feel like it's a collective thing, because you feel, when we're doing the music and you got, you feel me, because on the acting, you feel me, y'all just gotta get a whiff of this shit. You feel me?

They be watching, you feel me, but it's like, damn, get a witty. for this shit it ain't wrong you feel me to give a nigger his props feel me I give every nigga his credit so you feel me just get a whiff of this shit you feel me well listen to me I appreciate y'all for just even coming and beating the dough down man and coming and sitting down with me and just chop it with me man and give me some news that I can use man you hear me buggy baby truth BMF in the building the sharp tank no jumper sharpest coolest podcast in the world hey Mike shit was out a mother fucking you