No Jumper - Breadwinner Kane On Fineese2Tymes Dissing Alabama, Meeting Kevin Gates, Almost Going To NFL & More!

Episode Date: March 13, 2024

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The Sharp Tank. No jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. And I got a good brother in the building today, man, out that good old Alabama, I believe. Yeah, man, Huntsville. Hey, man. Hey, we got breadwinner cane in the building. I had to say, I like that, man.

I like that. But I already name come across it. That's that breadwinner cane. For shit show. Yeah, man, what's going on with you today, man? Man, you know I'm out here enjoying this good motherfucking weed and enjoying this sunshine out here because it's cold now, Alabama, right?

And that's about 30, about 40 degrees. So, you know, I'm out here just enjoying this good shit out here, man. Did you just get out here? Yeah, I just got out here. Where was you coming in from? I came from Houston. Came from Houston. Yeah.

You have some shit going on down there? Yeah, you know, I'd be traveling now. I'd be in Huntsville, Houston and Atlanta. Yeah. In Nashville, Tennessee, too. But, yeah, I got some shit going out there, you know. Me and Walt got something going on. So I was walking to TSA.

family. Okay, he was out there in TSA, you was messing around with him? Yeah. Okay. Has them like these three places you always catch yourself in? Yeah, you know, I'm from Huntsville, so, you know, my family out there, my kids, and so Houston, I just been out there for about, probably about a year. Yeah, Atlanta, it's like my backyard in Tennessee. It's like my backyard because it's like three hours to Atlanta, an hour and a half to Nashville from Huntsville. So, yeah. Well, they're out in Nashville, man. some time back, man.

You know, I didn't call some cases out around that Tennessee, man. They ain't planned when it was around there, right? And I got caught up in it. I didn't go,

oh, do you love one? Oh, yeah, those people like that. They gave me my first half. Oh, man. You know what I get my first half on my report car, man. I guess,

shout out to you bastards, you know, for real, man. You know Williamson County, man. Shout out to you, my... Man, we used to county to stay away from that. Man, tell me. me, man, for real, because I want to know a little bit more about you in depth, like your background,

you know, and where you come from, before we dive into the music, you know, and who you know, what you know and how you're being, you know. Yeah, so. Talk to me about, man, what it's like, man, Alabama, coming up in Alabama with in the country, from the country, man, you know. It's like, you got caught up out there trying to get some money. Yeah, because it's, yeah, you get, yeah, you know. I was getting some money.

I just got caught up. You just got caught up, you know what I'm saying. I got comfortable. I got greedy. You got, yeah, you can't be happening. South got water holes everywhere, man. You can go fishing for catfish every day. Man, for shit, you know.

That's what you got to do. You know, in layman's terms, you know. In church, you can go fishing every day around that. Man, you're going to get something to eat. You're damn right. But, you know, it's a little different than living in L.A. As far as like, you know, they got the gang culture. People go to certain areas.

Pretty much, we go all over the whole state, any state, like in the South, for real. So it ain't so much and so much territory. territorial, but it is, though. You feel me? Because, you know, you got the hood everywhere you go. You got gangsters everywhere you go. You know, because you was there. So, you know, you got n-uh-that-run-day city.

So I came up with my family and some Keynes, my last name, Kane. So, you know, I'm saying, and my big relatives. Yeah, you know, they was hustles. My daddy and my granddaddy on clubs and shit. You know, I've been around music since I was about seven years old. Yeah. And, man, I'm just, you know, natural. boy and go get it as you feel

me so that's what I come from to go get his state I mean I know this might be a lame question but I think it's a good question did you graduate you know what man I didn't graduate from my from from the high school but I did graduate I need it anyway from um no listen

I got a story I got a good with you I'm just with you with you go ahead I know it I didn't graduate from school like that but I came out of so I was getting money guess what I did I ended up going to homeschooling and paying like a couple of bands when I was like 16, 17, I graduated, you know what I mean? Yeah.

From homeschooling. Yeah. I paid for my own self to go to homeschooling. Damn. Real talk. To be that. And I paid for myself to go to summer school. Everybody couldn't do it.

I was pulling up in my whipping summer school like a Cadillac back deal. For real. Gold D's type. Talking I don't want to play football. Coaches was with me, though. They let me come back in there, man. I had got kicked out for. for doing some shit up in there.

Me and my homies got into it in high school. Had a big gang fight, big war, you know, fighting going on and got kicked out. But I went back, like I said, paid from homeschooling. End up going back for real. I was just in there, thinking about some money. And I just walked out. I really had an opportunity.

Probably could have made it to the NFL. Philly rivers was the quarterback then. I would have been the running back. Philip River, his daddy was the coach, Steve Rivers. And they let me come back, bro. They got me in a couple of my partners, man, and RIP to some of my homies and BIP to my homie,

Big Huck, he was the fullback, he would have been playing then. We just made the wrong choices in life back then that was giving us life. So you're telling me that there's a possibility that Bradwinner Kane could have played the NFL, like if you would have played your cards right.

If I were to play my cards right, Philip Rivers, we would have won state. I went to the state playoff games, the last game. That's what everybody needs a state championship. We would have won because, you know what I'm saying? I was dead. Yeah.

Yeah, so it was like, damn, but I was getting money then. That's how I went to the game. I was doing shit that motherfucking doing. I was in the club at 15. I had one of my relatives' ID. He was short. So he was a short dude. He was probably like 50.

Not really a midget, but he. No, we used the word. Yeah, that's why I tried to do this word, a little person. Yeah, I ain't say midget, man. He was short, right? So I used to get this ID at 15 and go to the, to the U.I was a club on University in Huntsville, everybody got one to.

I remember when it was a chicken, I was there. I was 16, my little relative, he was 14. I got in me now. I got cool with the people. And this girl got a throat cut, man, with a bottle, bro, and died, bro. Real talk. I was, I was 15 years old, something like that, yeah.

That's crazy. You said, how should get her discipline? Man, they just got the fighting right there. I just felt some beer and shit. I was a player at that age, I had ballings and you're in the club. You're in the club. I'm bawling.

Come on, man, I got money. Country money. You know how I go like that country money. It's a different. It's a little difference. It's like the Mexico money. I feel like it's easy to stack up in the South because it's not too many places to like super spend your money.

I mean, yeah, you go get some nice clothes. Yeah. But bottle service and things like that in the club, they ain't trying to whip you over your head like how they whip you out. They actually charge you with $150 for a bottle of Hennessy is fair. You know what I'm saying? Being in the clubbed atmosphere. That changed now.

That shit changed, man. You're paying $1,000. $1,000 for $7. At least seven. At least seven. Yeah, so. So, you know, I feel like country balling was always different. Like, I always loved your way of living when it came to, like, the hospitality of, you know,

going to a club or going to something like that, man. Hell yes. Especially in Alabama, I could not even imagine. Man, you know, I ain't been on the club seeing there some years and shit But it used to be popping Yeah, it used to be popping Yeah, it used to be popping

I had a couple of homies from up here That came out there And we was in the club a couple times And shit like that, like, yeah Yeah So you're upbringing for you, man You didn't make it through school You just ended up going probably, what,

getting your GED? No, I went to home school I paid for myself to go through homeschool So I got my diploma You got your actual diploma? Yeah, home school I paid for myself to go to home school in the like 16, 17.

When did you decide to get the hell about Alabama? When did you say, man, enough stuff? I was about 17, huh? When did you say, I'm about to hit the road and get about Alabama? Man, you know, my first trip, I was probably like, man, I don't know. I'll probably turn about 21.

I had shot down to the A and went down there and started checking that out. That's y'all go to. Everybody in the atmosphere is to go to. Yeah, everybody has got to go to the A. That's the Black Hollywood. So went to the A, went down there, I went to the strip club back then.

It was jazzy T's a long time ago. Man, I was with some old from the family. And, man, we just had a good ball. It was just doing. Got that pretty B.M.F. ring with your figure? Yeah, that's how I got it. And we definitely got to impact that. When did you run into BMF boys?

Did you ever meet? I ran into them then. No, I had, right when I had really started coming up there, really, that's when Meach got locked up but I was with Cavarillo the whole time because the Dun Deva magazine was going on back then and they was managing my homeboy his name Ox

Rippe the Oxman Louis Rankin aka Ox and yeah man Hey my man hey my man my man my man my man my man Hey you was cut saw and sawbucking on us man Hey Please we appreciate you man

Man, full-blown fellow sleep. They're going to talk about that. That's funny better. I'd say, hey, my man, my man, my man. Hey, hold up, man. That, fellas, these is a weed, man. It's the weed, man. Hey, man, straight caught a couple z's on us.

He was in one. Hey, it's all good. I already know when we're leaving off. Back to you, I'm saying, the BMF affairs. And you're going down to Atlanta meeting them, you say you never got to really meet mech per se. Hey, man, you can't help when you get around what time you come around. You know what I'm saying? But when you get around, you're around.

Yeah. So tell me a little bit more about it. Yeah, so there was my partner, man, Louis Rankin, aka Ox, man, I rep. RIP to him. RIP, you were saying, RIPA. He was in the movie Belly. So they was his managers from the Dundiva magazine, Cavario, was one of his manager. Wait, right that back, belly.

Belly, the movie belly. Yeah, you're talking about the real ox. Yeah, the real ox. Jamaican ox. Yeah, that's my boy. Sure, man, for real. For sure. I was about saying, I ain't know.

I'm like, I know. Like, there's an ox, but like, you know what I'm going to go by? Damn, the real ox. Yeah, me and ox, we was hanging out. I was young, you know what I'm saying? I was hanging out with ox, meeting people, and he was signed to them. And that's when Cavario was telling me about the whole movement, you know what they had going on. Ox was doing music.

And Ox was doing music. He was doing little movies. I mean, I know he was doing movies. He was doing reggae. He did reggae music. Yeah, he did reggae music. It was cold. Yeah, he was working with them.

So, you know, back then, man, it was like, damn, you're seeing all these clubs. And, you know, back then when they did, when BMF did come in the club before Meets died, I was seeing them. I never did, like, just go up and be asking names and shit, though. You know, and I used to see them in the club, but everybody had to get out the club.

When they came, they put everybody out the club no matter what. Hey, the club closed, boom. Club closed. Club closed. Like, what the f***? I'm like, what's going on? This is my first time really before I met Cavario. So I'm like, damn.

I'm asking, I'm like, what's the arts? Like, what's up, man? What they say? We got to get out the club, bro. We're like, what's up? Club don't close. You know what I'm saying? It ain't closing yet.

Like, nah, chill, don't worry about it, man. We're good. So we're just chilling. And all of my kids was just doing their shit and offering us shit. And we was just mingling, man. I never asked names. So you never got put out the club. I never got put out the club.

They put everybody else out. So it sounds like to me is power play. They pretty much, when they come to the club, they pay to kick everybody the fuck out of the club. When BMF come, they come deep already. They already deep. So they're going to have 40 of them members, not to mention the entourage that they come with,

probably another 40 to 50 people. So there's at least 100 people in the club that it's just bought out for. It's bought out for it, and you got to go. And you got to go. You got to go. Who'd you end up meet? I met Cavario, man.

I met a lot of homies from that back then, too. My boy Calicoe Jones. That was your introduction. Was it Cavario? Yeah, Cavario was telling me then. That was before I met Calico or any of the younger generation. But, yeah, man. Back then, shit was just crazy.

And I remember one time I'm in the club. I bump into, like, Michael Jordan. I bump into Michael Joy. And I'm like, damn. Michael Jordan, they come out, they come to the club, get out in a helicopter type shit. might drop 50 bands or 100 bands out the helicopter muck going crazy man I said what the fuck is going on

I'm like holy a lot of people don't know and we're going to get back on to the BMF joint but just like a lot of people don't know like Michael Jordan a thug bro a little kid thug he was with the shit Michael Joyce was having a good time A gambling motherfucker man

love to gamble A gamble a bet for your shoes He gambled for everything, man. Some of the stories about him, man, be crazy. Man, that was one of the times I know. I was like, damn. That's what you knew, like, these nests have emotion. You know, I'm from Alabama.

So it was no stars coming through that back then for real like that, you know. So, yeah, I was like, damn, Michael Jordan. There was a couple basketball players, Charles Oakley. Well, not to take none from Alabama or some of the other sistering southern states. There's not too much attraction. like something to do. Like, yeah, like, you go to places because you're from there.

You know what I'm saying? Like, man, that's our go to when we in the city, everything, go. But if there's nothing that brings that worldly attraction, who's going to want to come? You know what I'm saying? It ain't Vegas.

It ain't an L.A. Like, everything serves a purpose to why people gather around and the masses to other cities. Yeah, shit. Especially back then, but it's different now. It's different now.

It's different. You got other shit, you know, it's shit going on now. But back then, when shit, it's going. Right. When shit's going.

Wasn't nothing wrong with that church. It's just the way that the culture said. Like I said, there was only a few cities that had some big attractions. Like, shit that you're going from, when a superstar goes somewhere, it's either because he's from there or it's about to serve him a purpose. Yeah. It's not just because he just popped in on the wham and this is where he's at for the week. Yeah.

You know what I mean? For sure, especially the shit I was into and shit back when I was, like, in my teens. I was trying to get out of there anyway, you know? I'm saying? Of course. And go somewhere else. But it was much different. I ain't saying, Kane, that everybody

can't make it from where they're from. But it's like, especially in today's day, like, you got to kind of get up out of there and go and go elsewhere. You know what I mean? You have to explore the world, man.

If you want to be great, you got to go out of the country. You got to do a lot of shit to live the world. I don't mean to interrupt, because I don't want to forget this. Do you feel like that stems? Because the question for you,

You feel like that stem is from hate. Like hating, like being in your own city. And it's like, damn, I got to leave to go get some shots. You know what, man, I'd be telling the homies from out here, my partner, they like my brothers, be like, man, get the fuck out of LA. Yeah. It's just something about, you know, being around your family. When you dare, you don't want to, you grounded there.

You don't really want to lead that like that. You know, that's where you survive. That's how you live in. So sometimes you don't want to just give up all your shit and go somewhere and start fresh. But sometimes you'd be needed or you need vacations. Like I said, going out the country is one of the best things you can do, especially coming from America as a black man. You'll see different and you'll know life different, bro.

Real talk. A lot of people are afraid or maybe better worden, like maybe timid to get up to leave, to go find better ventures elsewhere because, you know, what people can't see and they don't know, they won't make the move on. You know what I'm saying? What drove you to say, man, I got to get about a year.

I'm about to go down here to this. Hey, I'm about to go do something. I don't care if it was next, though. I'm not about to be here with it. Yeah, shit. Like I said, man, I've been around my pops and them all my life. I've been seeing hustlers all my life. Yeah.

I've been seeing the pimps. Everybody all my life, that's what I wanted to do, get a Cadillac with some gold rims, nice big jury, you know, saying, get you some money. So at the end of that, I come from the grind. I believe in what I'm doing,

because that's why I'm here today. I believe in this shit. You got to believe in yourself, bro. And a lot of people, they don't believe in themselves. So that's where they get there from. So much is hate, but it's just, like I said. Yeah. Because, you know, we come from this,

so you know how it is in the hood and the streets. So I can't say it's hate because you're going to get down. You got to get down. That's what it is. Like whatever come with that, we know what environment we're coming from. So, nah, it's just, you got to make your own choice. If you really want to do it, just try it, bro. You can do it.

That's just like rapping. I went rapping until I met Gates. But I tried this. And we're going to definitely dive into that. But I have one more question before that. What does, because you seem like a smart brother, man, like for you to go back and, you know, put yourself through school. You know what I'm saying?

Like wanting to do it willingly, reaching in your own pocket to pay the couple bands that you said you paid to get what you need to get your alkaliates. What does the true meaning or the word boss mean to you? Let me tell you, man. All right, I come from a single parent home, my mom.

So my mom got, I got two brothers. Okay, my dad brother, he played football. I signed him up for football, went to his games and stuff. Yeah. And he was, he was going to graduate from high school, but he was running like a four three man. I'll tell you my brother, he was one of the ones.

And he was fin to go to college, right? I think southern Mississippi or some shit. So he needed 17,000 to go to college. His daddy didn't want to give up the money. So my mom and I was like, I was like, man, he needs to try to. He got to do this shit. He can't sit around here and look at me and try to vibe off what's going on

of the negativity around here. to go and try some different. Who went to college in our family? I don't really know too many. You know what I'm saying? So that gave me the drive of that back then when I was, and I think I was 20, I might have been about 24 then, some shit. And, uh, 23.

But I paid for that, man. I paid for the, you to go to college out of my pocket. You feel me? He was having some change, Kay. Yeah, I knew it. He was having some. I paid for him to go to college, man. And I paid for my other brother.

I got another brother. That's my middle brother. My other brother, I paid for him to go to tech school in Orlando at the same time. And I paid his bills. All this shit. He lived across from Disney World. I went to visit that one time. I didn't do it.

I was getting, I was in my day. You know, that was the ecstasy days. The X-Pill days. I was turning. Took about 50 to most. I was out of my mind. out there money going go going out every night and i go to the bar in Orlando they like it's free drinks you come on in we got it's free night what i'm in the club every night you know that

molly's making you drank up some shit too yeah all that stuff about me that double stack nigga you up in there drinking mode and you do yeah i'm on my shit back then you feel me yeah so yeah i'm like man you living now here bro again pays your bills what's why you ain't called boom i paid that nigga's shit and man you know that shit right there is helping family taking care of your kids and shit that's some boss shit you feel me yeah real talk you feel like it ain't always the jewelry the cars and clothes see i always felt like that shit it ain't even luxurious necessity nigga we got to have that we gonna have that just because of the type of people that we are how can't I always been a firm believer church I can't help nobody if I can't help myself true so I got to

make sure I put myself in position so I can't help others whether that's family members some of my close friends, whatever the case may be. To me, that's being a boss. You got to make yourself a boss so you can be a boss in anybody else's life. Exactly. You ain't never helped nobody, gay, nobody, and pay no people bills in your community. You ain't no boss, bro.

You ain't took care of no people in your community. These old people that be sick and can't make it to the doctor paying their bills and doing this and that, like, you know, giving back to the community. That makes you a boss and your family for sure. It's fucked up because it's like It's frowned upon now It's like for like somebody that's a high profile person Like yourself or myself

We can get on live and say man We feed the hummus. Why are you showing this? People start talking shit talking bad. You know because they ain't got the courage Or the access to do it. That's why they're saying that. I get a lot. I got some of that before.

I used to be in the hood giving out Turkey is buying by a sick of school. I didn't did it all, man. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Why ain't coming back here? Why are you doing whoot-to-woo-to-woo. Oh, yeah, man, I get that.

Yeah. I know. I had niggas talking about, oh, I'm going to do this. Yeah, I'm out here, though. You know what I'm saying? I'm right out there doing what I said I was going to do, barbecue and moonbouncer, giving back to the kids, to school or whatever that may be. To jump back to Alabama, you know, in your roots, your heritage, your culture.

Do you feel like you get, now that you, you know, you being on and moving around? Do you feel like you get more hated on? Or do you feel like you was, you get more love? you feel like you was getting more love before you was on? You know what, man? I always had people that love me. I can't really say about that because, like I said, I don't be out like that no more.

But I couldn't, I get love. I get love from where I'm from, though, you know, but I don't be out like that to even. I don't even acknowledge it. Really, when I'm out, I'll be chilling, man. I go everywhere. I be by myself and shit. I'll be chilling.

So don't nobody really. Niggas weren't speaking to me before. And then you got you got bitches that be scared to speak to you when you even out They might write you on Instagram Yeah But they ain't gonna say shit to you maybe if they see You know, I just had that, I guess I just had that type of

Shit going on But yeah I see you got TSF on you BWA That's my brother, man That's my brother join right there Man breadwinners Association That's my brother man

Shout out to Kevin Gates That's my brother So I didn't even know you didn't know I was like man that's why I got the breadwinners I'm like man niggas got a lot of shit. You know what I'm saying? So when I hear that, I'm like, okay, Bradwin, Bradwin a cane, okay, it just could be his name.

Didn't think that you know you was really in ties until I found out, you'm saying, a little bit of while ago about it. I'm like, damn, that's really, that's your people, how you meet KG, that's why I call him KG. That's my brother. Yeah, see, when you said KG, I'm just used to engage or something. People call him, they call him a bad guy. I got, shit. I didn't call him a few. I know him.

Like, that's my brother for real, you know. Like, get him on the line, like he called me. You know what I talked to him for hours. So, you know, I'm saying? Brad, how you get associated with him? Man, you know, back in the days, me and Gates bumped into each other. And he was like, what you look like me? You feel me?

Gage had introduced me to the rep. That's all right. As a shit he's like. As he's like. Look like me. Yeah, we look alike. You know what I'm saying? We are like, you know.

So, you know, everything that nigger be thinking and doing, that's what I'm doing type of shit. Yeah. So, yeah, we're. We locked some shit in and dropped a song. And that's, I got locked. I've been locked in with gates ever since, man. I just talked to gates like not too long ago.

I talked to gates two days ago. Yeah, I talked to him about a week ago. Yeah, that's my guy right there, man. What joint y'all dropped if you can throw that one on the record? We did, while she talking, man. It was a joint idea. It was like for the strip club or some shit like that type of music. Yeah, strip club joint.

We dropped that bitch. That bitch went up too. Yeah, I made a lot of bread off that one. and did a lot of appearances and everything, so that kind of jumped me off. Do you feel like that's a gateway, and we would talk about gay smoke in a second, but you feel like there's a gateway like the strip club joint,

getting your shit played in the strip club. Yeah. Don't need, like, I feel like a nigga get more pop and you get some more action. Meadows used to do it all the time. I'm that nigga that was in there that invented make it rain, my nigga. I'm the nigga that was in the club that really was in there fucking with the bitches.

Bitches knowing a nigga, the nigga handsome, a nigga running around through that. So when I did music, they already knew who the fuck I was. Yeah. Like I'm looking at like even like the strip club scene, right? I'm like,

nigga get his music up in their amigos. He should do it all the time. Atlanta, if you can get your song in Atlanta, you can break a song. Atlanta can break a song. I promise you, bro. Like Atlanta can break a song just in Atlanta, just in the strip club.

They got so many of them. They might have a hundred in them. holes now. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Strip clubs. You feel like the chances are more slim today.

So everybody's going there. That's what it is. Slim about, what was you saying? I'm saying, do you feel like the chances are slim today? Like, for a mother, because everybody's doing it. It's saturated now. They didn't caught under the wave.

You know, they don't caught under the wave. When you got into it, you was like, there's a rare for a nigga to do this. So when a nigga come through his music, but in the strip club, hell yes, going to get around because he ain't got a bunch of competition like that. True. Niggas wasn't thinking like that.

What, fucking Uncle Luke? like, come on, you know what I'm saying? People like that. Like, nobody was really thinking like to make some shake joint shit, man, because if you got the bitches listening to it, the bitches going to spread it everywhere. Everywhere.

You got the bitches listening to it. You got some badass bitches, man, shaking their ass to it. Hey, like you said, that mother's going to break. It's going to break wide. You know? So that's why when I look at it,

I'm like, man, strip club joints for you to say, like, man, shit. We used to spend my shit over there in the strip joint. That's where I feel like, It was. That's what it was. That's where you're going. I did a whole fucking tour.

Yeah. Through the number strip clubs. Yeah. Yeah, number strip clubs. Tell me a little bit about that we outside tour. Did 20 cities. Oh, yeah. We outside tour.

It was my people, my management team put that together. It's gorgeous music. Salute to them. It went good, man. The first time I had hurt my leg. Couldn't go on the first one. This second one did a run. We broke some good bread on it.

What you mean? You said you heard your leg? Yeah, yeah. I had an accident with my leg. I broke it and shit. You had to stop the tour? Yeah, the first one. How many cities did you hit before you broke it?

Man, I ain't hit none of them. My fuck. I was in the hospital. My leg came off, bro. They put it back on. What you mean it came off? Bro, it came off, bro. Fuck me up.

Fuck me up, man. I was like, damn. I'm walking now. You can't really tell. But, yeah, that muff, it's still fucked up, though. Still hurting shit. What did it happen? How did it happen?

I was on this, uh, K&M, ATV. Fucking around. It was fucking around, spinning around, doing all kind of shit. Try to play games. Nicaru. You knew you had a, bro. You had a tour coming up, 20 cities. I had just, I had just did this deal with, uh, with this foundation media distribution

with Zatob and too. Just dropped my first song with Honeycomb Brazier. So I had a lot of shit on the table that I fucked up. Yeah. I fucked up. up a lot of shit. Since you had a partnership with Zay Tovin.

Yeah. Tell me a little bit about that. Man, we, you know, me and Zay, we've been locked in for years. Like I say, ever since I went to Atlanta, that's the only thing I left out right there, Zay Tovin. He was there the whole time.

Hey, I got to do a whole time here, baby. He's leaving out nothing. He was there the whole time. Like, we rode it out and shit, man. I bought Zay his first keyboard. I bought him his first try. What are the motherfuckers called triag? Keyboards or whatever the fuck.

Bought him one of them. He always told me that. So you bought Zay to have first. And I ended up getting it back from Zay. He had signed it. I had a studio in Huntsville. I ended up giving him all this shit for the studio. I used to.

I had a whole damn. It was so much going on back then, though, when I had that shit. Like, yeah, me and Zay, man, we've been locked in forever. With the Gucci Man, the Big Cat. Yeah. Yeah, all that shit.

I was there the whole time. The Gucci Man. and shit, all that shit was going on with Gizi and 2-11 was signed with Gizi back then. So that's how Gucci knew who he was. When I found out two was with G-Zi. When I found out two was with Gizi, that's when I was like, yo, go-up, man, you know.

Y'all boys, you know, y'all need to talk it out, figure out what's going on, you know what I mean? Yeah. I'm like, yeah, my boy, too, over there's a little business, so y'all figure it out. I got to know, like, were you always into music, because you got up around all these guys. Did you, you know, did being around a bunch of rappers make you feel like you could do it too?

Or was this always your passion? Because you got more stories than just being in the right rooms at the right time. You know what I'm saying? I never really thought about rapping. You know, I was into sports. I was, you know what I'm saying? In the sports and I, you know, was thugging in the streets at a young age. That's what kind of turned me over to the music and meeting people and this and that.

but I never thought about rapping until I met Gates. That was when he was telling me about the money and about everything, I had to think about that shit, bro. I was spending money on niggas like crazy, trying to run a label, trying to look out for niggas, this and that, because I felt like I never wanted to be on the camera. I never wanted to be on the scene. Because I'm not from that era where you're cool to be having your phone out like it is

now and doing how the shit that's going on. Right. So I didn't want to get that going on, but boom, that nigga convinced me like, you're blowing money. These niggas don't want to do shit. They ain't serious. Like, yeah, these niggas not serious. They got everything. I wish I had a nigga that was giving me bread and doing everything I need them to do for me.

Type of shit, nigga. See, I'm going to tell you, Ann Gates. And see, I'm going to tell his ass where I tell him later on, man. See, look, you can't expect, that's what we fuck up at, having too good of a heart, expecting the next to do what we would do. Once I seem that that's not what the case is You can't even be mad at it You gotta walk from that type of shit man

It ain't even done But don't never let it stop you From helping people neither It's just the wrong group Sometimes we need to re-evaluate ourselves We don't never look at what we doing To even make niggas even act like this What is it that I don't

What is it that he think I don't respect about myself Is what's not making him respect my money When I give it to him. Better wording Yeah true You feel what I'm saying? Like what's he see? Do he think I don't respect myself because I think I'm taking this shit serious. Key words, you think.

You don't know if you're taking this shit serious. If you is, you're going to see how your team move. Niggas ain't doing nothing serious. One thing I do agree with Gates when he do say he was like, man, Sharpe, you ever notice how a lot of people in the industry, they circle constantly change? He was like, I'm a real leader. You know what I'm saying?

You got to be a leader, you know, to make sure that, man, if you're a real leader, you're going to keep the same circle forever. because everybody's going to constantly stay elevating because everybody going to follow up behind the leader. True. You know what I'm saying? I see you got this big-ass-bred winning

associate made across your neck. I know that's how I know you. You're really with it. But then I see you got T.S.F. on you as well, Church, you're a walking billboard. Tell me about it, man. You know, I start rocking with, well. Right, I started rocking with sauce in them.

I'm trying to get in the Texas marketing. I had a homie name on Trouble Tutton from Dallas. man, BIP. Trouble, that situation really was more of for trouble, the situation with the TSA, but Walt, like he said, man, I had to get on my shit because back then I was on crutches. So I was dealing with them.

We did the contract, we did everything. We did it on when I was on crutches. So I hadn't been out for like two and a half years, period. I was in the house on the bed and shit. So he's like, man, go on get back to your music, bro. I'm telling you, we locked this shit in. you got to do your shit so they can do their shit, you know what I'm saying? But trouble, you know, unfortunately, he, um, he passed away.

So, BIP to the homie and shit. Yeah. Yeah. What's, what's going on with, uh, TSF today? Are you heavy in the mix with them? Are you kind of just waiting on the phone call? Or you, you know what I'm saying? Where is it?

I ain't waiting on no motherfucking phone call. I mean, what shit, I'll tell you this, man. Hey, listen, a boss ain't always going to go make the phone call. phone call neither you're too busy being a boss other places man sometimes you got to stay when I'm around when I pop up it's cane baby you know the business you know what I'm saying so it's like

no we we always networking though we always talking I talk to somebody from the camp I believe I interview TSF peso too Paiso Paiso Paiso That's my brother man yeah we all networked We networked man we communicate And you know it's some shit

I should be over there working more with them I ain't gonna lie but I had I be in I've been taking care of my grandmother for the last couple of months too. So I ain't been out there working like I should be. But yeah, we're doing shit, man. We got a song out called Poppet,

me walking wood, Southwood winning, and Souse Walker. That bitch doing numbers. I got a platform iTunes from that top 30. I mean, man, you know, shit,

shit doing what they do. You know, I got to be there to make it work too. Yeah. You got to get back outside. I love one. Yeah, I got to get all the way out there. My game to you, for real.

You got to get the fuck back on outside I just started walking now I can't run Hey it lets be real A phone call might come through right Because phone calls do happen But I promise you church I ain't never met it to where they come into your dough

Man looking for you in the neighborhood Bain to give you that big old check You know so you got to get your ass outside and go chase out the dough And you got to trip over something For shit show You know you got to go out there and walk And trip over something

Maine to find it you know what I mean So I mean Get outside don't Can't, no more sitting around, man. Yeah, man, I'm on it, man. That's why I'm out here, baby. Yeah. Have you been living out here in LA?

Because I see, like, it sounds like you're driving quite frequently. I was out here a whole lot. Like, my homie, he had a condo downtown. So I used to be over there a lot, but, you know, no, I never really lived here. It says that you, uh, you started your own company. I think you even built your own studio. Yep, that was back then. I did, like I told you, um, the artillery shop thing,

with Ox, we had the studio over there. No, you had briefs. They got the studio. Yeah, I know. But, like, that was a while back, so I'm thinking like, shit, it seems like this is talked about now for you. Do you have that going on to where you're investing in the talent? Yeah, the studio is, Zay told me, has a studio in Atlanta.

And right now, at the moment, now I'm not really dealing with other artists too much. Besides, like, trouble, I had this guy named Richie from Savannah, that I was working with a little bit. I ain't really been doing too much work with artists art is too hard to get to come do the interview now if this was one of the artist's interview they wouldn't have made it because they just wouldn't have made it

they under your guidance though they under your team why wouldn't they have made it that's you disbelieving you not believing church you got to believe they under you they're showing the fuck up and they're going to be there on time but they ain't going to be under see right now I'm doing it like this man I'm working the music industry not far as me

trying to all be all over there with them. I got to have niggas who want to do it, bro. I ain't got shit. My team ain't got shit to do with your team. You need your own manager. I got my own manager. See, that's the type of thing that's going on. Even Gates, they taught me a lot by working with them, bro.

Yeah. Talk me a lot by working with them. You got to get your own shit going on, your motion. You ain't got no motion and no money, bro. Get out of it. It's 20-24. But that's the problem. And I said it already.

Niggas can you cannot help nobody. who's not willing to help himself. When you go sign a nigga on, don't sign him on because of his likelihoodness that you have for him. Sign him on because you know, okay, let's look at the factors here. He's got motion. Okay, he looks like he's taking

care of his business. He's got a little small catalog. If he had somebody big standing behind him, he'll fuck around and he's going to blow. You know what I'm saying? But everybody always want to sign that little on. How you ever fucked with some artists before? Have I ever fucked with some artists? You had your own artists?

No. So you don't know what the fuck. No, but I do see what it comes with. I've been listening. I've been a part of music groups. I've seen the business. I see how it goes. And I'm telling you, bro, what always happens is it's too many.

Listen, dog, everybody want to be a chief and there's no Indians. There's no Indians. There's no Indians. And it be the niggins that didn't even make it to be an Indian. I know you might be a fucking chief. I don't know what it really, you know, what the information is. A lot of fake information in commission's crew. I'm going to give it to you.

I didn't did it all. I'm that nigger. I didn't did. I just had ten them, like ice them out, all this shit, bro. No, the information is accurate because you have had artists. That's why I asked you. So it is true. The information isn't misleading.

Let me tell you would it be too. All right, say, you know, I ain't got time to watch your motherfucking chain or your shades. I don't get a fuck about your hat. See, when you start watching another nigga too close and too much, that's your downfall. Then you don't want to do it. Because you really got some feelings and envying you about what's going on. Yeah.

So that's, it's just too much of that. Now that's, that come with hatredism, the fucking music shit. Yeah. But other than that, bro,

it's boo. But let's, let's really look at it though, right, church? And I'm really trying to unpack the lunch on it. If that's your artist,

you're right, you don't have to watch for no glasses. You ain't got to watch for a fucking emerald or a diamond that bust out that nigger chain. But guess what you do?

You make sure that he got security. You make sure he's got the proper team built around him because once he's in your camp, he's watched over. There's people that do that. But what I was saying is the artist who watching the next motherfucker. I ain't talking about motherfuckers watching the artists. I'm talking about the artist is envying the people with the money.

You can't sign with death jam and be mad at them because they multi-motivineers. You came in with 100,000. Instant gratification. Come on, baby. It's instant gratification. Instead of being like, you know what, I know what I'm, I had that one day and I'm going to learn the game to get that.

A nigga rather hate Come from not being no hustlers. Half of these rappers, just rappers. Just rappers. You ain't got no fucking brains, bro. Shit, for real, half of these rappers ain't got no brains. You get mad at the next nigga.

No, you get mad at a nigga. Oh, man, fuck that nigga. Woo-to-woo-to-woo. Nigger on down the line, you know, I don't say nothing bad about no niggas really. You don't know shit like that. No, but this is the facts. We got to lay the facts out.

This is the report, church. This is what's came back. But the rappers be too. they like bitches. Bitch is supposed to watch your goddamn your hands and be all over. Your niggas, start watching how much money I got. When you do that, we're going to be all right.

So right there's start letting me know, hold up. These niggins watching me. Did he niggins? Let me get the fuck on. You feel me? At the end of the day, you got to have bosses, man. I'm not even going to call this a shot at the industry. Is this a shot more at the up-and-comings?

Is this the ones that's coming up that you feel like, man, y'all in the music game for all the wrong reasons today. The Warns is coming up, got to realize that you coming in without shit. There we go. That's what you're coming in. And the ones is up there.

You got to realize you came from shit. Stop bullshit. We're supposed to be a like. We're supposed to be looking out for each other. At least, it ain't even got to be so much as looking out for each other. At least if you got down, know this person doing this.

You can like their shit, man, on Instagram. That ain't shit. he'd say that's super free man that's free that's free I think that's some whole ass shit you know what I'm saying but you know don't you agree with me agree or disagree people don't

follow you to see how you're doing they follow you to see what you're doing you know and once I felt like I learned that church I learned that the world amen I see it for Facebook you. It fucked me up bro yeah man people are even a motherfucker that you ain't talked to in a while and they call you

be like, what's this motherfucker calling me? It actually makes you want to talk to them because you want to see why they're calling. They're going to sit. After this interview, I'll get calls. A song on the radio. For sure. I get boo-woo-woo.

This and that, bro. Trust me, man. Niggas is dick pullers, man. They ain't really got down, you know what I'm saying? Want to do their career, a nigga, get no money. Get you some money. Speaking of money. I believe, do you have any exotic pop deal?

Yeah, I did some of the exotic pop. Yeah, I did some of them, man, ambassador of exotic pop right now. Yeah. Man, it's love for prayers D and little flip, little flip salute, man. Yeah. I got the breadwinner cane, cool cup juice, strawberry and lemonade. Mm. That one right there.

It's sound live right there. It's good. But it's like, it's some juice. It ain't no TAC. It ain't no alcohol. It's just like just some regular juice. Yeah. See, I think Desto Dove, shout out to Desto Dove, awful lot of cough syrup.

He has the exotic pop. I believe he's got the pinocalada. Oh, he got the pizza. It's a soda, yeah, but it's the soda, peanut calada. Zadipop's going to cost you about $10 or something, too. They hit you for these motherfuckers right there. I eat $10. How you get caught up with them?

End up linking up with them. Like, when I went out to Houston, man, it seemed like they just gravitated to me. Like, I got fans from Houston. Since I've been there, man, I did a lot of interviews, and I went to rap economics. And I was in there on Prez D. We was working on some shit,

and Gorges introduced me to this guy with a little flip. So we was just talking about the juice and drink. He was like, well, how would you feel about getting your own juice? I'm like, hell, yeah, let's do it. You know, there's some marketing plan too in that. Well, a lot of people say that, right? Me and you, we've networked, we've been in the networking game, and I've had a lot of people come through,

because you have them, you know, quite a few that do not. So they'll run into you, promise you, say, hey, man, yeah, let's get on it. I mean, hell, you've probably even done it. Like, yeah, let's get on it. And then just the time don't permit itself. You know, what was it about you that day? You felt like, shit, they stayed locked in with you enough to even get the drink going. Man, I just felt like they already see me.

They see who I was. They liked, you know what I'm saying, the shit I was doing at the time. It's not everybody got collabed. Exposure I was getting. And it was, you know, it was a good deal they was coming with. So, I mean, like I said, it's a marketing plan to it. I'm just getting started for real. We just really getting started with.

They got a lot of shit, know what to do, but it's out there, so they fucking with me. No, it's live, because like I said, even with Exotic Pop, you know, in their company, they're not fucking with everybody. Nah. They fucking with more rappers,

not really from down that way, like the Houston's areas. Yeah. Like the sauce, uh, Big Pokie got one. Little Kiki. Big, big pokey.

You know, Wrefer Pee. Big Poked. RIP. You know. All right. Yeah, man. You know.

Big Hawk all of, man. You know, the whole SUC. Yeah, for sure. The whole SucC, real screwed up clicked. Yeah, they're doing, Texas got their, Houston most definitely got their own thing. The whole Texas got their own thing going on,

especially with their shit, they drinks, their music, everything is different. I love to get some of them SUC artists up in here. Oh, yeah? Yeah, like, man, like the original screwed up click, though.

Like some of the last ones left, little Kiki, you get a little Kiki up in here, man, go crazy. If they knew what that would do Yeah, if they knew Like that's that shit right there, man For sure Yeah, I'd love to even get some

A-B-N niggas up here, man, trade the truth Yeah, get his whole little bit Yeah, get his whole camp up in here You know, even There ain't got to get ready to, I ain't got to get ready I've tried to tap in But I haven't really went and like Put my thumb on it

But I do got a lot of, I know they history The whole SUC man I've not even watched it. I watched the come up. Shit, I was there for, to watch a lot of it. I ain't going to say I was there for it because I'd be bullshit. But I was there for a lot of it, man. I fuck with him.

That's crazy that you know about that. Like you was really in the mix or all that. Yeah, for sure. We got to unfold, man. I got to know because you are Alabama native, correct? Correct. 1,000 percent. 1,000.

We're on Alabama time. You stand on business. You stand on Alabama business. Alabama time. How do you feel about Fennett's two times saying fuck Alabama? Man, I feel like... How did that make you feel when you first heard it initially?

Man, I feel like, shit. I'm like, what the fuck is he thinking, though? You know, but like me and Cone, you know, that's my brother, Honey Cone Braves or Free Honey Cone Brazier, man, for sure. So we brothers, we locked in already. So I'm just like thinking like, damn, that ain't solid, but niggas is not solid.

That's what I was doing the interview the other day, telling this dude I did some with Stan G. I was like, yeah, niggas just ain't solid. Niggas ain't standing on business, like you said. Like, I can go anywhere. Niggers can get in touch with me if need be, or I can get in touch with niggas if need be. But at the end of the day, I feel like, damn,

why would you go and do that? That ain't smart. Yeah. Has he ever came down in Alabama? He ever moved around there? Y'all ever seen him? About being around there? Shit, like I said, man,

I ain't really been out like that in Alabama, but from what I heard in Huntsville, he didn't show up at his shows and shit. So he didn't show up. You know, Fennesse. Like, I fuck with Fennesse, man. Shout out to him. Nothing beloved to him.

But when I hear something like that, like, it's got to be something behind that, right? Like, a nigger saying, fuck Alabama. Like, what's that about? That's very specific. Like, you got some. Hey man, fuck just some niggins in the South. It's easy.

He could have said the nigga name. He could have said the nigga name who really he won't have said to. Right. But I think that's some scary-ass shit. I think that's some scary-ass shit, though. You heard of me? I don't know. I don't know.

That's right when we unpacked the lunch on that. I'm like, it could have been, look, it could have been overlooked if it was just, you know, Hey man, just fuck a few niggas down through the South, man, shit. And them niggas know who they is, whatever. He specifically, he went in Alabama. That's Braves. I'm like, what? That's throw me.

I'm like, damn. They throw me out, bro. I ain't going to lie. I don't know what's up a dude. Yeah. He was tripping. Never got the chance of meeting before? No, I talked to him, though, before.

We didn't conversated before. He knew, he knew using Alabama native. Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure. Damn, Finesse, I mean, I wonder what happened. I wonder what, you know, niggas just, I mean, niggas say shit. He did that shit when Brazy got locked up and shit. Yeah, I don't take Foness to be a person that just say shit for no reason. Like, he always been a nigga, you know, he say what he means.

To my knowledge, to where I've met him, he always been a good nigga, you know, unless a nigga showed me otherwise. So I ain't never really, even when I met him, he always has some good game. I can tell you got a good head on his shoulder. So that's why I'm like Well shit Was there like Some type of like

Little Rift Did he have a problem With a nigga down there? Man you know what Man you ain't seen A Honeycone Bra's video What was going on? Yeah I do

I have So you know the situation I do know the situation But I'm just like So he should have just said that Instead of said Fuck the whole Alabama

That's why I felt like It was It had nothing to do With nobody else Right Coward Shit That ain't real

But You know it is with it. That ain't no real shit, but hey man, to each his own. Yeah. Everybody's trying to get their bread, everybody making music,

get some money, man, you know what I'm talking about? It says that you don't be, you don't prefer to be just shot in the lane of a rapper. What do you want to be labeled as to not only the viewer, but your

fans and the people that follow you? I want to be labeled as Kane as me. You know what I mean? Because half of these rappers do bitch-ass shit. I don't want to be labor, no bitch-ass nigger. Do you? For real, that are. That's why I get away from him, man.

Man. He said, I'm just gay. My mama, man, no. I'm just, yeah, no me for me. Hey, what's up? Yeah, but all the other shit, man, I ain't with that, man. Any projects? Anything coming up?

Anybody that you've been working with recently that you're excited to show the world man I got this new motherfucking EP coming out with L. Zappo he's from Michigan I mean damn he's from Detroit from Ben Harbor my bad not Michigan

Michigan Detroit yeah yeah so yeah me him and Rallow Famgum you know what I mean we're gonna be working together shit like that so be looking for some new music from me and Gates

come up to the mic for me for me Be looking for some new music for me, engaged and shit. You got something sitting back? Ready to go? Hell yeah, I keep something sitting back. Fin the release once on. The main ones, man, because we're the main ones. You know what I mean?

Yeah, we're the main ones. This is what you got coming with, right? That's why I got coming. Well, I'll tell you this, man. I've always admired bro's work. And I know if you admire you, man, shit, you got to be a real one, man. You know you're solid and you're certified. So I appreciate you for sliding through.

Is there any words you want to leave with the people, man, before we get up out of you? Hey, man. I always believe in yourself, put God first, man, and let the money motivate you. Don't be letting in those situations motivate you. Just push for yourself, you did? Amen. Truth. I always said, the truth, need no support.

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