No Jumper - Brother Ben X On Wack 100, Young Pharaoh, Feminization of Black Men, & More

Episode Date: November 29, 2022

Flakko and Brother Ben talk about the community, their favorite YouTubers, $500K vs dinner with Jay-Z, monetize content and more. ------ 00:00 Intro 1:22 - Ben defines the meaning of “Islam” and ...“Muslim” 3:14 - Ben on who is responsible for the destruction of the hood and the meaning of “WD” 12:00 - Ben breaks down the fundamentals of NOI teachings 15:13 - Importance of uniting African-American and African people 28:26 - The agenda to feminize black men 43:56 - Ben calls out Flakko’s past guest for false accusations 51:32 - Ben breaks down his take on $500K vs dinner with Jay-Z 57:25 - How content creation is like digital real estate 1:04:00 - How the community can benefit from the metaverse, NFTs, and Web3  1:10:50 - The importance of investing in knowledge and yourself 1:12:40 - Ben reacts to Flakko’s favorite Youtuber gurus and how to add value to your favorite creators 1:18:12 - How to run ads and build online sales funnels 1:24:40 - Ben gives his take on Club House convo with Wack100 over the Million Man March 1:31:25 - Why Ben wanted to come on No Jumper ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No jumper coolest podcast in the world. We're here with Brother Ben X. Yes, sir. How you feeling, man? Feeling blacktastic. Blacktastic? Yes, sir. Yo, listen, I feel like that's one of the things, man, that, like, I missed, but, like,
Starting point is 00:00:20 but never, like, I guess, tapping into Islam, right? Like, really early on, is that black proud, like, right? like is that black proudness man is being able to like stand up and just be just proud in your blackness man now like you joined when i joined the nation in 2015 wow and like before that was your family christian or like exactly what was like the primary religion so for me we was uh we was baptist ah and um it's a funny when i started to learn about the teachings you know my I got into my dad a little bit where I couldn't even listen to the minister in the house. I used to play them around the house.
Starting point is 00:01:05 And, you know, it was a typical Christian that go to church, you know, on Easter. We don't go to church every Sunday. We ain't going to go in the Bible center. But let Christians come around, Easter come around. We're going to get suited and booting. And we're going to be that. In that cornbread, man. So that's how I was brought up in church.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Yo, to like, go from being a Baptist to, are you Muslim? Or like, is there like a distinction between being Muslim and being a part of the nation? So a Muslim, as the Honorable Minister Lewis Farrickin teaches us, we're all Muslim. So what does Muslim mean? Muslim means one who submits their will to do the will of God. Yeah. So many of us, we have differences because of the rituals or the customs that we may have. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:52 But the root of it is, by nature as the black man and the original man and original woman, we would submit our will to do the will of God and be righteous. So I don't care if you call yourself Christian. I don't care if you call yourself, I'm just spiritual. I'm just a Hebrew. Okay, well, do you submit your will to do the will of God? I don't believe in God. Add an oath to God and then you got good.
Starting point is 00:02:12 So if you submit to righteousness by definition, you are Muslim. So yes, you are Muslim when you are in the nation of Islam. And what Islam means is entire submission to the will of God. So scripture talks about we was born and seen and shaped in the world. iniquity. A lot of things that we're doing today, you know, killing each other, robbing each other. It's due to what we see. We learn these things. You don't grow up four-year-olds talking about, you know, what's going on and they're going to pull up and, you know, we don't talk like there. At four, we learn these things from people that surround us. So we wasn't messed with as a
Starting point is 00:02:44 child and influenced as a child to do wrong. Naturally, man, we'll be peaceful people. We'll strive for freedom, justice, inequality. I say all the time, people that's walking around, mugging each, you know, mugging each other and fighting and ready to kill. each other, go look at a picture when you was for, you were smiling. Exactly. You was running around with a pump on laughing, things of that nature. How you go from smiling, having fun to now, you know, you're this guy, that's because that's a persona.
Starting point is 00:03:08 You have to, you've grafted into this person all times because you're trying to protect yourself from someone. Who's more responsible for that, like the destruction of the hood? Us or outside entities? I believe it's both, and I put it this way. The Honorable Ombalaj Mahomet was teaching us at the time, he said the white man is the devil. What does that mean? Tell me, hey.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Many of us think that that's just a skin color type of thing. Well, when we talk about what is devil, devil is anything that's contrary to the will of God. You know, scripture talks about being a murderer from the beginning. Do we murder? Absolutely. Do we rape? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:03:55 a whole, when you look at humanity, who was the one that has went in and colonized and, you know, Tamper with and has killed and has went in and manipulated a lot of people. And so the reason I say is twofold is because the honorable Lodge Muhammad at that time in the 70s, he had to teach that way to make them look in the mirror. If you're not a devil, then prove it to me because you've been raping, you've been robbing, you've been hanging us, you've been shooting us for no reason just because of how we are. So he's forcing them to. to say, all right, let me prove it to you that I'm not a devil. Then he's saying the black man is God. Why? God is the original. The black man is the original. So he says we are the mothers
Starting point is 00:04:35 and fathers of civilization. So those people that come after us are grafted from the original man. So he's telling the black man who thinks that he's inferior, who think that he's nothing because of how he's being treated and how he's being taught. He's robbed of the knowledge of himself. So now he's saying, hey, no, you're a God. You're a direct decision. Senator Guy. You have no beginning nor ending. So he gets the black man to wake up. So at that time, that teaching is very necessary because of what was going on in the 60s, in the 50s, in the 40s, now as we mature, after we have knowledge of self, the minister and the honor, Balaj Mahomet said, we can't continue to blame them, especially after they have made us free. Then he said in
Starting point is 00:05:17 1974, they can easily say, you made me. So when I say, what does that mean? And our lessons is say, why does Muhammad or any Muslim murder the devil? See, now, if you look at this from an immature position, you may say, well, murder the devil mean murder the white man? No, murder a mindset. It's a mindset that needs to be destroyed. And once the mindset is to destroy in those that are the enemy and in us, that's when we are truly free. So in our teachings, it talks about the murdering of the devil. Well, he said, every time we save a black man or woman in that same act, we have murdered the devil. Where was the white man there?
Starting point is 00:05:56 So it was the mindset that had to be destroyed. So now it's not necessarily about blaming them. Yes, there is a lot of laws that were set up back then. And we know what happened with slavery and things of that nature. But after you have the knowledge of self, now you have to take accountability for it. Because you know the right thing to do because God is within you. For example, there's probably been a time where you probably messed up
Starting point is 00:06:18 and done something wrong. Yes. And when you messed up and done something wrong, there was something in you that said, You know you're not supposed to do that. No, that's a fact. Say, man, why you do that? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:06:27 You're in a position. You're doing somewhere to go, you ain't, as soon as it happened, you end it, the thought comes up. Man, what did I just do? Oh, man, I, see, that's the God. That's the self-accusing spirit within you. So that's why we can no longer continue to blame them 100% for our condition
Starting point is 00:06:42 after you have knowledge of itself as a God to overcome. So we're taught to overcome all obstacles. Why did God make devil so that he can prove that he's all wise? Oh, man. Now, like, how do you, you know, like speaking about like the hood, right? So I'm not the mindset is weird to blame, right? Because, yo, it's like when I like walk out of my mind like house, right, and I go to college, you know, and I do everything right. There's one place where I can't go back to because if I go back to, they're going to tell me how dare you come back with all your chains on.
Starting point is 00:07:18 How dare you come back driving around this Lamborghini that you work for? and my own people will kill me faster than, you know, any white men would, right? So, like, when you guys are, again, like, you'll do some real powerful and profound work in those neighborhoods, man. How do you guys feel comfortable going back and, you know, and reaching back, you know, right? You know, in saving lost souls in those environments? The minister said, man, we are righteous by nature, wicked only by circumstance. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:53 So when I can see you in your condition But then I can look past your condition And talk to the guy within you, you feel it Yeah You can know when someone is sincere Now I'm not saying some people may ignore it You know things of that nature But for the most part we have a track record
Starting point is 00:08:11 80 plus years of having love for the community Instead of judging them like other people do Pull your pants up Do this, stop doing this, stop doing that We say man peace God What's going on God? What's going on? God? What's going on? my brother. We know him for that. You know, we mocked in movies. We mocked the TV shows for being positive. So it's like, all right, yeah, I got this mindset. But now, that's the
Starting point is 00:08:32 brother. So much so, shoot, when we go in those neighborhoods that some people are scared to go to, eat at things of that nature, they notice us and say, we got you. We'll protect you. Why? Because they see, man, even though you know we in this condition, you come in to save me. You're not coming to stun on me. You're not coming to stunt on me. You're not coming to show me how bad. You're coming to show me how good I am. You're coming. You're coming to show me how good I am. You coming to say, man, I'm going to look past all that. Instead of me telling you pull your pants up, I'm going to just talk to your mind, pull your mind up,
Starting point is 00:08:59 and you're behind going to come behind it. So when you think like that and we have a track record of being able to be patient with them and showing them another way, then, you know, that's what does it love, man. Love conquers all things, you know. So when you think about it, says perfect love, cast out fear. Absolutely. So when you have the love, man, and they see it and they actually see examples of it.
Starting point is 00:09:21 And that's just like our number one route messaging calls, it becomes easier. Oh, man. Yo, you know, and it's because you guys are so full of love, man. Why do you guys think, like, your message is being banned in a lot of places, right? Especially Farrakhan, you know. Sorry, you know, the honorable minister of Farrakhan, right? And I was always told, bro, like, they're not banning no lies, you know? like, right? It's like usually people who they're banning who they're trying to like keep
Starting point is 00:09:53 away from us, they're usually people who are telling the truth. They're not banning no lies. So why do you think one, this, I guess like this like this newfound depiction of Farrakhan is somebody of darkness and evilness when we all know that's not the truth. Like Farrakhan is not somebody who's dark, not hateful, right? He's unliked. Why? Why? Why? Why do you feel like there's this new attack on this man where now they are banning this man's accounts on social media, labeling him, you know, like anti-Semitic, all type of stuff, man? Yeah, it's not new.
Starting point is 00:10:30 So I start with Quintel Pro. Yeah. What was the aim and purpose of Quintel Pro? To stop what? The rise of the Messiah, right? Yeah. One that can gather and have the people come up in the military. way that goes against them. So some of their tactics was to write false articles about him.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Some of their tactic was, is to label him as a hate teacher. Because if I can't destroy him, if I can't make him break with money, if I can't make him sell out, let me kill the idea of supporting him so those after him won't continue on the message and the mindset that he have. Well, if scripture says that Satan is the God of this world, see, many people don't know that. Scripts say that Satan is the God of this world. And if Satan is the God of this world and this world is built up on lies, built up on deception,
Starting point is 00:11:26 then why would they want truth to come? See, in our lessons, it says, why does the devil keep us illiterate so that we can be used as a tool? As a slave. Because after I have knowledge, especially superior knowledge, how can I allow you to make me a slave
Starting point is 00:11:42 after I got knowledge itself and I got the knowledge of God? So I think that is the reason why, once you wake up to who you are and you start to learn, hey man, if they won't treat you right, they damn sure won't teach you right. Absolutely. So now instead of me taking them to the school, I'm going to start to make necessary decisions and moves to start the homeschool my own.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Now there's no longer go to school so you can give a good grade so you can work for somebody else. When we work for somebody else, most of the time who are we working for? The white man. Right. I didn't say it. You said. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:12:13 So when we're working for them, whose world are we building? Absolutely. There's, right? Yeah, there's. So when are we going to build ours? And I'm not even saying there's nothing wrong with having a job, but I do think it's something wrong if I'm going to spend 40 hours of my week and everything that I do going to be to build his world.
Starting point is 00:12:29 So if I'm going to go to his school, I've got to get some knowledge of self and get some education at least to come back and give it to my people. Well, that's what the honorable minister Louis Fraudan teaches us. You know, some of us think that we can just eat whatever, right? I'm just going to eat and, man, we all going to die anyway. That's what we say, right? Yes, sir. You got that nice car.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Why don't you put bleach in there? Why don't you put bleat? Why don't you put dirt up there? It won't work. It's going to die anyway. The car going to break down anyway. Why not put the worst gas in there? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:12:58 See, so once you have knowledge of self, you increase love for self. And when you have love for self, you got respect for self. So when you love and you don't work hard and you respect this billy, no, don't sit on my, man, get the time, what you're doing. But you got that little Honda, somebody's walking on pads down. He can sit on it, sit on the trunk of things. that nature. So he taught us how to eat. He taught us how to eat to live. So we put down the port. We put down and eating four, five, six times a day. So now we live in longer. Now we're looking good. Then he teaches us, man, hey, man, we got to unite where at once time they had us going
Starting point is 00:13:31 against each other, light against the dark and all these different things. He said, listen, I don't care if you don't call yourself Muslim, if you don't call yourself Christian, if you don't call yourself Hebrew, whatever the case may be. He said, man, our unity is more powerful than an atomic bomb. The honor, Belize Muhammad taught us. He said, Listen, your mother says his plus one equals seven. Mine says seven plus zero equals seven. He has said three plus four equals seven. Back in the day, we used to argue.
Starting point is 00:13:55 No, I got the best answer. No, we got the best answer. He said, listen, if we look at the root knowledge, not the branch knowledge, we all get to the same answer. Seven. So now we're starting to unite together. So a message to the black man in America says get with six to eight like-minded individuals come together and do something for yourself.
Starting point is 00:14:13 So now instead of us going to the jobs to build things. their world, now we unite and doing for self-starved businesses and doing our world. So that truth breaks up their world and that world lives on ignorance. When you look at Walmart today, just Google it when you get some time. Look at Walmart how they hiring prisoners to do their work. Look at Sprint, how they're going down and hiring prisoners to do their work. They're getting paid a dollar a day. So if the world is built up on slavery and free labor, they still got to find a way to do it.
Starting point is 00:14:42 So on the 13th Amendment it says that, hey, we're abolished slavery, for punishment for a crime. So now you really, in slavery, in there, you're working for Fortune 500 companies that's making millions and billions off of you and you're getting paid a dollar a day. So now when we stop killing each other, when we start robbing each other,
Starting point is 00:15:00 we think different about each other, the mindset you was talking about, not robbing you because you got the chain, not robbing you because you got the car. Now the prisons won't be filled, now they won't have a bunch of free labor. So that's why they want to ban the truth. Exactly, man.
Starting point is 00:15:13 You know, speaking of like this division, man. So as of lately, are you aware of what Ados is? What's that? ADOS. Yeah, I heard of it. Yeah. Right. So, you know, like, like, like, okay, so like, there's just new, I guess, like, I never
Starting point is 00:15:32 quite sensitive before, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say the last two years, right? There's now this new, like, anti-immigration policy, right? and I was always told and like of the mindset of yo like black Americans marched they went ahead and like campaign promoted you know like did whatever they could for more black immigrants to come here right and I was always like just like just super grateful right that there were people who were out here marching for my people to come here and have a better life right so I just always thought like damn you you You know, like, once we get here, now there are some cool Africans who come here and their agenda is anti-everything black and they go the other way. But don't you think that it'll be much more useful for Africans and black Americans to find how we can unite more, opposed to these things that tears apart? Yes. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad had a Muhammad-speech newspaper with an African brother.
Starting point is 00:16:41 it's a farm and he got his hand like this and the black brother in America got his hand like this here and he wanted us to be united he wanted us to get into international trade with our brothers and sisters
Starting point is 00:16:55 overseas because other people doing it other people going into Africa and looking at the resources and monetizing it so he wanted us to do the same but you know we don't even call
Starting point is 00:17:08 our people Africans in our lessons why why did they call us Africans so that we can, so that they can, or so that we can think that we're all different. So, we label them that, we use these names, we use these labels,
Starting point is 00:17:23 but the black man has no beginning, as I said. We came with God. That's our originator. So with us being the original people, we're not confined to a landmass. Yeah. So when it says, who is the original man? The original man is the Asianatic black man
Starting point is 00:17:39 to make it the owner, the cream of the planet Earth God of the universe. Well, then he teaches us in our student enrollment or actual facts the measurements of the earth. What is the land? 57,000, 255,000 square miles. What's the water? 139 million.
Starting point is 00:17:53 How do you know this? God damn. Why are we learning this? Because we're learning what is ours and what we have as the original man and as a direct descendant of God. So why am I saying all this? I'm not saying that to be smart, but the men are saying, you're not black because you curse.
Starting point is 00:18:08 You black because you're first. So it doesn't matter where we dropped off at or where we want to claim, man, listen, we are black original. You, my brother, whether you're from Africa, you're my brother, whether you from here. But I do think the mindset of those who come over here needs to be in unity, not the mindset that you was talking about. In the backside of our fond of a call newspaper, it talks about, you know, we want what we want for those who were slaves and grandchildren of those who were slaves here in America.
Starting point is 00:18:39 So we should get something just do here, those of us who suffer and had ancestors that suffer here. But I also think that we shouldn't disassociate ourselves from those who are coming from Africa and things of that nature as well. We should find a way to unite because they've had a certain experience that may be different from ours. It may be different, but the principles may be the same. So the same mindset that they had to build to overcome the difficulties that they had, we have a mindset that we have here, that we had to overcome and build up. So if we unite those things as the people and see ourselves as just black, original people
Starting point is 00:19:16 versus, you know, I'm American or I'm African or I'm this, then I think we can do much more with our progress. But I do think if we come with an attitude of division, then you need to be removed. You need to be, you know, go over there and do your own thing. But I do think it would be beneficial if we come together and just unite versus being divided. Man, you know, listen, I, you know, like I do, right,
Starting point is 00:19:37 And I think you just kind of like talked like talked on a reparations, man. Speak on that. What is the price? Like being in like, what will America have to pick up today right? You know, like what's the number that they would have to write down and on their check to make it whole and write? So I'm going to start like this. To get the answer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:04 The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan got a lecture call Added Up. Mm-hmm. Well, he added it up. And you can go look at what that number is and what's due. But it ain't just money, though. Reparation is cool, but we got to repair the mind. See, they know if I can, you know, you know how many people hit the lottery and they lose their money? A lot.
Starting point is 00:20:30 You know how many people go on these shows and they fat 500 pounds, 400 pounds. And they lose the weight while they own the show. They require. You know, they got somebody that are with them. But when they go home, why are they gained the way back? No discipline. Because the mindset wasn't changed. So if you give me a million dollars,
Starting point is 00:20:48 but you don't give me a million dollars worth the game, but you don't show me how to manage it, maintain it and grow it, then you know I'm going to give it back to you because we're on nothing anyway. Absolutely. See, if I know as soon as I get the money, I'm going to go give me some diamonds. Gucci belts? Yeah, I'm going to go give me some Gucci bells. I'm going to go do all the things that I wish I could do when I was poor,
Starting point is 00:21:07 when I was broke that was promoted to me in the movie. that were promoting me in the TV shows, I'm going to get the money right back. So we start to repair first our minds and ourselves individually, self-improvement. Then when the money come, we'll do something with it. But to answer the question, the honor Belize Muhammad said, we need land.
Starting point is 00:21:27 That's what we really need because that's the root of everything. If you give us some land, and he said, we need six to eight states. I don't want to call. I may be off on that number, but we need some states and we need them to come. but everything for the next 25 years. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:21:43 This will be going to cause some controversy. Yeah, and not just no land that's not fertile. We need some fertile land. Down south. Well, we can grow it too. We need some nice tractors. Yeah, we need all this stuff to grow the food and be able to sustain ourselves.
Starting point is 00:21:57 So whatever is needed at the root land-wise for us to be able to finally do something for ourselves, be able to control ourselves, be able to separate from you. If you don't want us, you've been showing us you don't want us. Yeah. So then, okay, for the next 20, listen, what's 25 to 400 years? That ain't nothing.
Starting point is 00:22:14 You know what I mean? What you want? If I say, hey, man, let's, I just want $25, you know, and instead of the 400 or I didn't get you 400, I say, man, I'm cool with the 25. You'll be happy, man. Oh, yeah. Here go to 25. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:22:28 So I think 25 years compared to the 400 years we went through is justice, it's justified, and probably need to add a little bit more on that. Wait, listen. So first, here, right, so, like, so, like, People might say that I know there's some folks, you know, mostly Caucasian commenting right now. Yeah, yeah. Six states or even one state. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:51 One state is too many. It's the goal to separate then. It's the goal to have a black nation because that's what they fear, though, right? Right. Listen, people probably be down to give every black man here a million bucks. opposed to giving black folks one state. Right? So is the goal of black nation
Starting point is 00:23:16 and in addition to us still being a part of this or is the goal to say, yo, listen, like black folks, y'all come home. This is ours. Whether it's one state or eight or six state, this is for us, let's leave America. Or it's the goal
Starting point is 00:23:34 just to have land to like, reproduce, you know, like monetize now to where, like, for example, right? And there's like, so I'm from North Dakota, right? And in North Dakota, there's like Native Americans where they get like a check every month, right? So like would this land just be used to monetize us to where we can get free food and every black person get a check every month? Or is that land for a black nation that's going to separate from us? Um, the Honorable Asma Muhammad said separation is the best and only answer. But that does not mean segregation, see?
Starting point is 00:24:18 So segregation is I'm in a position of power. I'm looking at you as if I am the superior. And I'm going to block you off from coming in this. I'm going to block this all. I'm going to set up laws that goes against you, but don't go against me. Um, that's segregation. What we're saying is, listen, man, if we can't get along, get peace with justice,
Starting point is 00:24:40 then it's best that we separate. Listen, man, you don't hit me upside my head in his marriage. You didn't give me all these black eyes. Man, you got me on allowance. I can't go do nothing. You know, that's, you know, like a relationship. Man, it's best we just going to get a divorce. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:54 So what we're saying is let's separate all of what you guys have been able to build off of the back of our ancestors. Free labor now. Again, free labor. let us have some separation of our own so that we can have a choice. Now, we're not saying black people, all black people, you got to go here.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Listen, if you want to continue to go over there, go over there, but I feel like we should have a choice. I think we should have a choice. We should be able to choose, okay, we build on our own world so that we won't have to keep complaining about the white man. So we won't have to keep complaining about injustice. So we won't have to keep complaining about what's going on. Let's build our own world.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Let's do something for ourselves where we can sustain and do everything ourselves. So that's what he's saying. We want to separate, not necessarily segregate, if we can't get along in justice with peace. Now, I know there, like, listen, right? And there's going to be this crafty 15% Negro saying, you know what?
Starting point is 00:25:57 Damn, man, like, listen, like that Black Nation, all that good food, all them seasoned, that chicken. I'm only 15% Negro, but I want some of that, man. Would they be allowed to come? It's like, what's like the line of like, how black do you have to be? Because, like, for example, there's going to be some 5% Negroes trying to, you know, like now try to claim their blackhood and try to be a part of that, like, infiltrated. You know, so, so, like, is that allowed?
Starting point is 00:26:32 So I would say black is the dominant gene. Yeah. and white is the recessive gene. Absolutely. So the dominant always overrides the recessive. Yeah. Now, some may disagree with the one drop rule and all this difference. So, which may be where you're going.
Starting point is 00:26:56 But if you got a black father, white mother or, you know, white father, black mother, that dominant genus was going to override the recessive gene. And then it's not even about just building, again, black, as in you got two. black fathers or, you know, I mean, two, not two black father, man, we need to edit that out. And we're adamant, we're not adamant Steve right here. We got him in either. But, yeah, black, black, two black parents. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:26 It's not about that per se. It's about building a world of righteousness. Absolutely. You know what I mean? So we're taught that evil is a bad name at the faith. So what once was our enemy if you submit your will to do the will of God, you my brother in faith. So you can come and do commerce
Starting point is 00:27:43 or you can come in, you know, come around after we study you for a little bit. You know what? No corner. Yeah. Make sure you know what you're supposed to be doing. So that's what I would say. It's not even like a black thing per se.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Like we're going to be checking you. Let me look at your ancestry real quick, brother. But no, man, it's about just our people who's been oppressed, our people who have been put in a certain position, man, let's build something for ourselves and let's bring together a collective mind of people who want to do good, people of righteousness.
Starting point is 00:28:10 That's what it's, you know, all about because that's going to be, now we're going to have to have our biologists get involved in everybody who's midday stuff. So that's going to be too sticky, man. It's about, man, that's, are you living for righteousness? Are you living for God or you not? And that's what the honorable man, Sir Louis Farrakhan teaches us. Man, facts. Natalie, you just spoke on Adam and Steve, man. Do you feel like there's an agenda to feminized men?
Starting point is 00:28:35 I would say I'm not the expert on that, but Dr. Wesley Muhammad has done a great job. documenting how it has feminized, like for example, the estrogen that is placed in soy and things of that nature does, feminize the black man and masculize the black woman. He talks about even in the weed, the high THC levels that's inside of it would increase and feminize the black man and would, you know, make the woman more masculine. And he breaks it down scientifically. Oh, wow. So I would say, I would say yes, man. I mean, when you look at schools, I did a little report, a video a couple of years ago about how, man, teacher put a little boy in the dress without the parents' permission. Out of control.
Starting point is 00:29:23 You know, it's being pushed now, you know what I mean? So I believe it definitely is an agenda because, again, when you look back at Cointillaintero, what did they want to stop? They want to stop militant black men. They want to stop militant groups to be, you know, standing up. up for our people. So then I think, you know, when you have that type of agenda, you know, our gender gets put to the side. So now you see the LGBT community they have now. Now, they are more organized now. I think we need to learn from them on that. They are more organized because the minister said a disorganized, well, a organized lie is more powerful
Starting point is 00:29:59 than a disorganized truth. So we do need to learn how to organize collectively for what we want and what we want to demand. I do believe that. But, you know, in all of that, in, in justice and laws and stuff being created, a lot of their issues get pushed to the forefront and our issues still get pushed to the back. So it may be all kind of agendas in that, but I would say, man, if y'all want to really get deeper into that and really get the answer, I would look into a Dr. Wesley's book, man, there's salt under black man. Looking to that book, it's like a 400, 200, something plus page book where he breaks
Starting point is 00:30:31 it down scientifically, what's in the food, what's being put in the weed and how it affects us and our bodies. Yeah. Now, like, where's the line at, though, like, for example, right? You know, there's like gay characters now and who are, you know, who are holding hands and kissing and being shown to be married in, like, kids cartoons. Yeah. Now, like, people are saying, wait, wait, like, hold up, bro. Like, you know, like us, where society never had a real issue with a man and a female being depicted as a married couple and kissing and having a household.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Why do, you know, we now care that there are gay characters in these kids, you know, like TVs? Because it goes against, it goes against the natural order of things. We wouldn't be here without a man and a woman. Yeah. So, and then it goes against God. So it depends on what your principle is. You know what I mean? Like what your foundation is.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Because the same way that they got a problem and we got a problem with that, also got a problem with us shooting each other in the movies. I also got a problem with us being prostitutes and pimps in the movie. So it's one thing to just try to point it out as if that's the only thing that's being talked about. But there are several things being talked about. A man and a woman being together kissing and, you know, it's a sex traffic situation or another bad situation. That's talked about and talked against too. You know, many of our people, man, when it comes to hip-pop, you know, that's a whole thing.
Starting point is 00:32:10 A lot of elders don't like the hip-pop and we're killing each other and talking about that in the music. So that's talked about. So I think because it's not going to help us grow. It's not going to move us forward in the future. You know, us being, I'm being with a man or another woman being with another woman. That doesn't move us forward. That doesn't bring us any fruit. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:32:29 So if it says you can tell a tree by the fruit, what fruit going to come from a man and the man? What fruit going to come from a woman and a woman? You know, together naturally. There's nothing coming from that. You know, you may have some affections, some you think you love and all that type of stuff. it may be cool but you know when it comes to the the progress and the um extension of us you know into the future is not productive yeah man now do you feel like as black folks we let the honorable
Starting point is 00:32:57 mr fairer count down and here's what i mean by this right um when they tried to impeach trump i see this very you know this video but that would be ingrained in my head forever And if that man says, they said Trump's being impeached, but my AK-47 tells me he's not. So I've seen how hard they rode for Trump. But as black folks, we sit back and we allow the honorable minister of Farrakhan to get mistreated by these social media companies. And we're not doing nothing about it, right? Like, like, for example, like, we're not up in arms. marching protesting saying,
Starting point is 00:33:44 yo, if y'all cannot treat that man because again, yo, he's somebody that needs to be coveted. If y'all can't treat him right, we're not rocking with y'all, man. Do you feel like black folks have let the minister down? Was Trump impeached? Yes, but never like, like, left the office. Right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:34:07 So I think it's like the Senate or the House will like impeach And then the second, like, you know, folks got to, you know, approve of the ship. And how many of them used their AK-47s and killed at least 10 people? None. Right? Yeah. So I think, man, I say that to say, a lot of times it looks good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:28 But, you know, they're not, they're not, as they were saying, in the streets, living like that. Yeah. So, but even if they was, how many people are you going to, in the system, what are you going to destroy? with the AK-47. Yeah. Nothing. That's true. Nothing at all.
Starting point is 00:34:47 So it's not necessarily a person or a few people that got to be killed. It's the system that got to be destroyed. It's the mindset that got to be destroyed. So I say that to say, the minister talked about in a lecture one time. He was actually addressing the whole thinking that the white man is a devil mean just that Caucasian as a skin color. He was saying, you're getting ready, we're getting prepared, we're drilling, we're doing, we're supposed to be doing to fight martial arts. And it looks real good, not knowing you just got knocked in the head with words, you got knocked in the head with knowledge, you got knocked in the head with a system that you can't even see in high places.
Starting point is 00:35:30 So maybe there is a fight that we can't see. because I believe, you know, and I, and I might get some pushback on that. Yeah. I appreciate all of our brothers, man, who walk around the city with guns and when it's time to protect, they say, you know, boom, boom. But I always say, oftentimes really nobody is getting shot. And if you shoot one white man, you're probably going to get away with one, maybe two, So at the end of the day, you may be looked at as a hero.
Starting point is 00:36:09 You might be looked at a hero. You might, oh, man, that's a soldier. But at the end of the day, you just got yourself either kill, put in jail, and the system still remains. Yeah, of course. So what really needs to happen is, so, for example, let me get this example. Many people say the minister got deleted off Instagram. And Trump said when Trump got left, they wasn't getting on Instagram no more. They wasn't getting on YouTube no more. No, they're going to start their own platform.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Why we didn't do that for the minister? And I said, I ain't getting off. I'm not getting off Facebook. Why? Because if I get off, then who's going to get the minister? See, the minister is not something that we personality worship. The minister's body and himself, he's a beautiful man. But it's really what really make him beautiful men is the mind that he got,
Starting point is 00:37:03 the spirit that he got, that word that he got from. the honor of Elijah Muhammad. So if I'm teaching what he taught, that's the minister coming through me. If I'm teaching that Dr. Wesley, Brother Neri, Brother Riza, is teaching what's being taught. The minister's still coming through him. So I always say the minister never left Instagram,
Starting point is 00:37:20 as long as I was on there. Because millions of people, thousands of people have been introduced to him and that word through my platform, through Brother Riza platform, through Brother Neri, all these platforms. So that's what I would say when it comes to that, man. And it's not necessarily, what is the minister's mission, right? The minister's mission is not to be on social media.
Starting point is 00:37:41 The minister's mission is not to just be seen and have a bunch of fathers and be verified on social media. His mission is to give life to the dead. So if we are still on the mission of giving life to the dead, no matter where they are, Instagram, YouTube, Facebook, we are fighting the way that he want us to fight. He wants us to be intelligent. He don't want us to get food and tricked out of our position to go pick us from arms
Starting point is 00:38:06 because of some words they go pick us some arms because he got deleted off Instagram so I would say for some of us, yeah you know, we don't fail them in you know, many of us act like we ain't got the word
Starting point is 00:38:18 but we don't wear it mess to the black man act like we ain't got no sense but we don't seen the million man march act like we ain't got no sense but didn't see the brother with the bean pie in the newspaper see he was just the bean pie with the newspaper
Starting point is 00:38:28 look at the bowtile wearing it with the bean towel But when it's time, when it gets serious, now it's like, where the Muslims are? Well, what was you at when we was at the corner? What was you at when we was at your door? You know, you're out of shape. You know, your health is bad. You're fat now.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Okay, well, what? When you was denying that Final Call newspaper, and every Final Call newspaper got how they eat to live in there, it had a solution for you to lose weight, it had a solution for you to fix your diet, It had a solution in there for you to mend your home, something, men in a relationship, unite if you got a beef. We talk about conflict resolution, all that in there.
Starting point is 00:39:07 So you denied them. He was denying the minister then. So I would say in the act, not even just the minister, God, if I want to be to the root of it, but not saying to he's guys, just for, I know, you know, got out of course. But God works through him and through anybody who stands on truth. But in that aspect, yes, we have. But there is a lot of people, man, who's continuing. continuing on this work, continue on this word, and that's the real fight.
Starting point is 00:39:32 So much so the scriptures say, well, not against flesh and blood. No, this is about spiritual weaknesses and principles in high places. And that high places, that battle in the sky is not the air force with the missiles. It's the mindset. So if they can get control of our mind, boy, they got control of our behind. So, man, that's what we're fighting for, the minds of the people, not necessarily killing nobody in that aspect. Yo, listen, man, I definitely agree, man. Now, do you feel vindicated for this reason, right?
Starting point is 00:40:00 So I remember, like, in hearing you tell a bunch of people, man, right? Even argue and saying, yo, bro, like, the nation of Islam did not have nothing to do with Malcolm X. dying, bro. Y'all stop it. Y'all stop that. And then those words are finally confirmed that's the truth because those brothers I don't know if the correct term is acquitted but those brothers
Starting point is 00:40:33 and their innocence have been confirmed right? And I think that was like Muhammad Aziz and then the other one was Mr. Islam man. So when you see that and your words had not been like confirmed now as the absolute truth and it was the government who had their hands in it
Starting point is 00:40:55 how do you feel? The Quran says heard truth that falsehood to you knock out his brain and when truth comes falsehood vanishes so it feels good
Starting point is 00:41:11 it's not that we didn't know if you look at old clips from that time there's a news article news clip I put it up on my YouTube but you know they keep banning me why?
Starting point is 00:41:22 One of them they said hate speech didn't tell me what video didn't tell me I mean I ain't said nothing by killing nobody going against speaking of that I want to address some but don't let me forget that okay um killing nobody doing anything like that and um they said hey speech now you know you're supposed to get three strikes on youtube i ain't get no strikes the second one i got up to 14 million and uh they said man uh circumvention of technology uh whatever that means right but the news clip that i
Starting point is 00:41:51 put up man the article was saying that uh think it was Benjamin 2x Benjamin was that the guy the secretary Yeah, Goodman, right? Do you know that he was there when it happened? He said that, you know, he said that he didn't see the people that they were saying was there. He told them that they wasn't there. Do you know they tried to, they threatened him to change his story? Wow. I don't know that, no.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Yeah, this is a news article. So why would they do that? You know what I mean? So we've been breaking it down. Dr. Wesley got a book out on, or he got several videos on it. Dr. Dmitric Muhammad, I think everybody should go get this book from brother, not doctor, I'm sorry, brother, brother, brother, Dmitric Muhammad. It's called, did y'all kill Malcolm? Yeah, but did you kill Malcolm? If you go get that book, he lays out evidence, articles, the whole nine about what really happened.
Starting point is 00:42:48 But to ask you a question, man, it feels, it feels good, man, and it's, and it's rewarding to see what patience does. And honestly, for me, man, what it really does, it really makes me look at the minister, man, and admire his patience. Knowing he spoke about his involvement, which was just the words. Them going back and forth, it wasn't setting nobody up.
Starting point is 00:43:11 You know, yeah, it wasn't doing, it was just the words back and forth because of the anger at the time. So to see him be patient enough. And then as he grows, teach us not to even get into the beef of Down and Malcolm. He called him Brother Malcolm. And during Savings Day, he had him big on the screen and everybody pointed at him and, you know, his thoughts on a documentary. He encouraged us to go watch it and not always respond emotionally.
Starting point is 00:43:36 So to see how he react to false claims of him from our own people and to see how patient he was and he loved us anyway and was just patient until the truth came out. That's what I really admired and really was looking at, you know, this whole entire time to see how he was able to be charged or something. so crazy like that and all this time, man, just be patient with it. But what I wanted to come to, I don't even want to say his name, but you had a guest on here. Oh, I know what you're talking about that.
Starting point is 00:44:04 You had a guest on here and completely lied. I'm talking about totally lie. You should have to ask him for evidence. Yo, wait, right? And I think I apologize to Rizzo for that, right? Because I'm like, as an interviewer, right? I have to come, like,
Starting point is 00:44:23 being, like, prepared, like, with, like, like trying to like predict exactly what somebody is going to answer and then like half the facts, right? And because I never had the facts, I even know how to respond back to that. But you could probably respond back to something. Right. So this guest stated that, uh, that like his issues with you was that you inbox his baby mama and try to kill him or say you was going to kill him. So respond. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:53 This is crazy, right? Bro, I don't even know who his baby mama is. Oh, damn. Okay, I don't know what her Instagram is. Yeah. So when I seen that, somebody has sent it to me, I ain't even watched the whole interview. I said, this man just said I d-end his baby mama said, I'm going to kill her and her son. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:13 What kind of crazy thing with that? Who would do that on social media? You see what I'm saying? Yeah, that's wild. I've never said that in my life. I haven't never said to anybody in my life, man. But it's crazy. Even the story that was told was completely false. Like I really wish I had the recording. The whole we had a phone call, the three-way phone call. It wasn't even about what he said it was about. It literally went like this. He started off saying things about the honorable minister Louis Farrakhan. You know, at that time, I'm responding. You know, I got time. I'm seeing everything. I'm responding. No, that's a lot. So I get a Twitter. This is the true story. And I'm willing. to, if we need to show phones,
Starting point is 00:45:55 non-blocking each other, this is, this is, Allah's my witness. Man, I got a inbox Twitter saying, let's do this debate, it'll be lucrative for both of us. Mm-hmm. A debate about what? Like just... Nation of Islam.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Gotcha. Islam, Allah. Debate religion, basically. Yeah. Nah, I ain't doing it all that. So it was a money play. Yeah. Come on, we both got a following.
Starting point is 00:46:20 You been asked, why not go out to nobody else? At that time, I got the views. I'm getting subscribed. Why come out to me? Man, they'll be lucrative for both of us. So he goes on, continue to do what he do. But I'm making my response because I'm like, no, that's a lot. No, that's not true.
Starting point is 00:46:34 No, boom, boom. So I guess people in the comment section, right? We can't control nobody in the comment section. You know it's trolls in the comments section. Absolutely. So the reality is, and some of the videos still up now, it's funny. Do you research, if you go back and YouTube it, he's actually talking about how it's years ago. The video is still up. It didn't start by us going to his baby mama, DM
Starting point is 00:46:58 saying we're going to kill it. That's not how I started at all because that never happened. He must forgot that how it happened is literally still on YouTube with him explaining it. So what happened was there's people in the comments section. They may have a last name Muhammad X. People just do that. True. Yeah. And some people, because they want to see the vision, entertainment in the conscious community, at that time, they want everybody to go. So they may change their name and say certain stuff. So the reality is, is some people in the comment section was saying crazy stuff
Starting point is 00:47:26 and he just responded as if it's the nation. But it wasn't, no follower the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan is talking like that under nobody inbox. Comments, DM on the phone anyway. So that's what it was. He was responding to just some faceless person and it was, he made a video
Starting point is 00:47:43 which is still up actually on Facebook. Hey man, y'all leave being alone. Don't go to his page. Y'all leave that man alone. Da-da-da. I'm going to leave him alone. Da-da-da. Because it simply was about,
Starting point is 00:47:52 He was saying stuff about the minister and we was defending. That literally, where the whole baby mama and all that stuff came from? I have no idea. Reason never did that. I never did that. So that is the reality of it. He started it, okay? So he was the aggressor.
Starting point is 00:48:05 And we responded with truth. You ain't just going to be sitting on here making lies and, you know, making stuff up. So that's the reality of what happened. So I just wanted to clear that because that's technically slander. Of course. Lines, especially something that crazy, somebody going to kill somebody in their son. Yeah, listen, have y'all like talk. or kind of like worked it out?
Starting point is 00:48:24 So here's the thing, oh, my bad. So the three-hour phone call, you know, that was a two-hour phone call. Oh, wow. And it was all positive. It wasn't no, I'm fend to pull up, nigger, I got the gun. It was none of that. Yeah. It was like, hey, man, what's your perspective?
Starting point is 00:48:38 Well, I'm thinking that Malcolm, da-da-da-da, you know what I mean? This is my, I'm making my documentary. You know, I got, he actually said I got the, I'm putting the minister in my song, but it ain't like that, man. I don't want to know, man, weekends. Because in the video, after that, after I talked, that's when the videos went out, man. y'all don't go nothing.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Being the Nardi told people don't go to it. It was a two-hour phone call, and it was literally just about his perspective, what he was told growing up about Malcolm and what he's seen and what he thought, what he saw in prison, X, Y, and Z. And then, you know, we were just giving our perspective. And we was like, all right, let's go on a, let's do a YouTube channel, a YouTube show, which I wish we had. Ask for that.
Starting point is 00:49:15 If you ever just see him again, ask for the two to three-hour YouTube video that we did live. When we did it live, it's deleted now. I was trying to find it. The video that we did live, exactly what happened from the beginning to start is in that video. Oh, wow. And none of it was said about nobody, killing nobody or doing nobody. But that's the reality of it, man, and what happened.
Starting point is 00:49:38 We already tried to have a phone call. You know, even though what he was saying about the minister, we moving like the minister would, the minister had people that he know wanted to kill him, dumb backslid him. And he knows, like I was saying earlier, man, you just, it's circumstance, you know what trying to see past that. So we had a positive phone call, man, and then it just is spent because of, you know how it is like if you're a rapper, you got to keep this persona. You know, I don't want to look like they punk me. That's what this is about. It wasn't even on no punking. It was just about, you know, unity and about, you know, what's right. This is false. And this is what it is,
Starting point is 00:50:11 and this is what actually happened. And so I think because of the comments and things that nature, it get to your head, you know, if I respond to a certain way, my view is going to go up. But we already tried and attempted that. And that phone. call was actually a positive phone call. It was no negative. Right. It's because he's a brilliant brother, man. I can only imagine, right? Like what he could do
Starting point is 00:50:32 if, right? If you guys would have like gotten to him, you feel me, feel me? And bring him in the nation. Bro, like he's like he has a great mind. Now, you know, things haven't happened. And it's not even about bringing him
Starting point is 00:50:45 into the nation. Yeah. Bro, just you're brilliant. Yeah. The knowledge. that you had a research, the way that you presented, the way that you're going to give energy to get our people to watch it, man, that's good. But the going after our people and being disrespectful and things of that nature to different groups, it wouldn't even just us, to different groups.
Starting point is 00:51:05 If you want to deal with the knowledge cool, but going so far to be disrespectful, man, that's where it goes so far. So it's not even about getting in the nation. Do your thing out of the nation if you disagree. It's okay to disagree. Yeah. It's okay to say, man, I don't want to be no Muslim in a nation of Islam. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Praise be to Allah. Go be good elsewhere. So I just want to clarify that ain't about us trying to get everybody to join. Go be good and do whatever long as you're living righteousness and trying to lift our people up. You know, we're going to be with you. Effects, but, you know, listen. Now, let's talk about getting to the bag, man. Yo, now, you had this clip, right, that I actually got like at the time that you set it.
Starting point is 00:51:43 And it's the, would you take 500K or go to dinner with Jay-Z? Now, you said, listen, if you have that million-dollar mindset already, then take the 500K, right? But if you don't know what to do with it, you feel me? If you don't have that mindset, you should probably speak to Jay-Z. Now, there's a bunch of Negroes watching this like, this nigger crazy. 500K to Jay-Z? No, hell no. So, like, break that down some more.
Starting point is 00:52:15 So, like, what's your whole take on the 500K or J-Z? So first of all, the average black person listening should take the 500K. Yeah, absolutely. So the example that I gave was when you're making millions of dollars, like I've seen a million dollar day in our company, when you're making that type of money,
Starting point is 00:52:41 knowledge, see, we always thinking about having money to make more money, getting a course paying somebody to help me make more money but there's another aspect of paying somebody to help me keep the money so if i'm making 500 000 a month or if i'm making a million dollars per month a extra 500k bro like okay but if you could if you if you if i did something wrong in my company if my company broke up if i'd have my paperwork in place if i don't have certain systems in place and everything came down once making a million dollars a month or 500,000
Starting point is 00:53:23 a month. Now everything has been destroyed. Bro, that 500K was worth it if he gave us some game in a system or connect that can help us keep that together. That's the perspective that I was having. So they say, well, Jay, what Jay Z going to do besides talk to you and get you a deal? Okay, well, you don't know who he's met since then. You don't know who he's taught. He doesn't talk to Warren Buffett.
Starting point is 00:53:45 You know, so you don't know what game that y'all not getting on Instagram, that you're not going to get through a 4-4-4 album, certain moves, certain ways to move your money, do with your money to keep it and maintain it. So I know there's a lot of millionaires. There's a lot of people who probably had a lot of money that will probably pay $100,000, $200,000, probably a million just to keep the income that was coming in. Because as they started to make a lot of money, this is new to me, making this type of money, man. So, shoot, I don't know how to manage this. So I'm learning in real time how to manage this. So if I had somebody, now it probably wouldn't even be 500,000. So somebody may say, I'll get the 500,000 and paying for a console.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Yeah, but I was trying to make a point that we need to find a way to, we need to also value knowledge and value where somebody can help us keep as well. So like, for example, if you got a great team and, man, it's a beautiful team, y'all rocking together, man, everything is flowing. and then envy creeps in and then lack of discipline kicks in then the lack of responses kicked
Starting point is 00:54:51 and lack of communication kicks in all of this causes the company to go down and I've seen it happen within my own company so if I saw these things happening when we're making kind of money like that in my mind man if we paid
Starting point is 00:55:07 $50,000 man that would have been so in my mind if you're from a poor mindset $50,000 to somebody to say some word, to give a sister, the coaches on communication. Negroes, man. Yeah, because I got a high level problem.
Starting point is 00:55:21 You ain't got no high level problem when you're just trying to take care of you and your family. That was the time when I just, I was trying to make $3,000 a month. That was my goal. Now the goal had to go to $3,000 per day when your responsibilities change. See, so I don't expect the average black man and woman
Starting point is 00:55:39 or not even black man and one. I don't expect the average person to understand. what I was saying because they've never for the most part a lot of us having experienced that type of money to know the value of saving that to know the value of having somebody that could have taught us communication that had the that that that that could have taught us systems in place to where certain things wasn't done behind the scenes and you know things didn't happen if we had somebody that could have fixed that we could have went on and made 200 million 100 million with the right things in place so that coach that charged 500,000 or 50,000 or 100,000
Starting point is 00:56:12 They're literally masterminds right now, other coaches, white folks, because the Honorable Judge Muhammad says, study the white man. He makes no excuses for his phrase and works together in a collective manner. So he says study not just the white men, but the operations of them. So we should study them to get the principles of good that they do. So I see them spend $100,000 a year on masterminds, on coaching, and they may meet with the main guy full time. Damn, to us, man, that's a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:56:40 I'm going to go about, man. I can buy a whole house with that. That's our mind. Well, if they're going, if they value dollars like that, but they make it millions, then I got a value in dollars like that as well. So that was the point that I was making. It probably was exaggerated, but that's the point I was making. Yo, so you said something very important, man, is that dumb white folks will pay for coaching.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Yeah. We'll pay to be taught, right? But black folks spend 500 bucks with one person and they don't get what you think they got out of it. Oh, that nigger scared me. Yeah. You don't bought you a stock class. The SMP, the S.P. $SP 500 went down.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Oh, it's a scam. Oh, my stock doesn't win down. Oh, yeah. Oh, man, they got me. And that's crazy. So, now, my question to you is this, man, like, we were probably late to real estate and crypto, et cetera, et cetera, man. But the metaphair now, right?
Starting point is 00:57:36 Sorry. Metaverse. And there's this thing called digital real estate now. So one, can you break that down? And two, how can black folks get that bag in the metaverse? Man, so the term digital real estate, I'd like to say I founded it. Oh, I said, that was you. And coined it in our community.
Starting point is 00:57:57 You know, up here may have used it. But the way that I teach it and the model that I teach it, you know, I brought that to the community years ago. So here's how I did it. At that time, I was learning about physical real estate. You know, you get you a fourplex, you know, Let's say this studio right here, it got different offices. So they would say, get something like this,
Starting point is 00:58:16 and you rent out through these buildings, and let's say this is your main one that you like, you use the rent from the other ones to pay for this one. Boom. So I said, okay, I can get by $500,600. You know what I mean? For each house. I mean, that's cool residual income.
Starting point is 00:58:34 But, man, I just made $1,000 on one video. I just made $4,000 off one video. I got an Instagram page. Well, we made 60, I mean, Facebook page, where we made $67,000 in one month on Facebook. Group economics. So let me show you what I mean. There's a concept in physical real estate where they say, hey, floco, you put up 10, I'm a put up 10. My man going to put up 10.
Starting point is 00:58:57 We're going to go invest in a property. And then we're going to bust it down. We're going to split it on the back end, right? Well, what if I ain't got 10,000? What if you ain't got 10,000? Then I got to go borrow from the bank. That's debt. Hopefully this works
Starting point is 00:59:13 or I can get my money back but sometimes don't. So in my mind I said man instead of me spending going to the bank to borrow money man it took me six minutes to create this video that's going to go viral.
Starting point is 00:59:24 It took me 10 minutes to create this video. So now what I did was I got with three other brothers and we got a, we had a Facebook page called Men's Viewpoint. Oh wow.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Right? So instead of him putting up 10 for a physical building we're doing digital real estate. So look, I said, man, I got over 2,000 properties online. What I mean by that? Because every time you watch my video, that's residual income. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:59:51 No jump of podcast, it's digital real estate. So the No Jumpa Podcast, YouTube channel is like an apartment building. But every video that goes up is the door, right? So now every video that goes up, if that's a door, well, how do you improve a regular apartment building? You're going to put some granite top on there? You know, you're going to put a nice toilet in there. So in other words, you're going to raise the value of the video, right? I mean, of the property, right, apartment building.
Starting point is 01:00:21 Well, on the digital side, I'm going to raise the value. See? I'm going to make it better lighting. I'm going to have better people on the podcast. I'm going to have, so the value of the podcast that an individual apartment goes up. So you may have a video on the show. They get 300,000 views, 500,000 views. And then here go the beautiful part about digital.
Starting point is 01:00:42 digital real estate. And physical real estate, if you got somebody that need to get out, oh man, you got squatters. Oh, man, you got people that are being there, they want to fight you to get out. Digital real estate, I got two buttons for you. Let me hit that name and I'm going to hit that block button. Hey, you're gone. I ain't got worried about high security. I ain't got to do none of that. So it's easier, man. And the money that comes in is a lot faster. Here goes another example. Let me ask you this. If you have a skill set and some experience where you know you can impact thousands of people. You can set up real estate. So I got a course. All I got to do is run traffic to that course
Starting point is 01:01:23 and I'm going to get paid residiously over and over again. So let me ask you this question. What is your life insurance, your water bill, and your phone bill all got in common? I'm not sure. Yeah, you do. You sure. Me? Yeah. What is your phone bill? Yeah. Your light bill and your insurance bill all got in common. Uh, somebody owns it. How often do you got to pay it? Oh, every month. Every month, right?
Starting point is 01:01:48 Yeah, every month. Residual income. So now, when you look at your Wi-Fi bill, how much is your Wi-Fi bill? Me now, I pay about like 220. 220? Yeah. Okay, you got that high speed. Okay, how much is a phone line?
Starting point is 01:02:00 Well, like, my phone bill, I pay about, I don't know, like 140 every month. 140, right? Yeah. Now, is $140 a lot of money? No. Not a lot of money, right? No. but it's $140 times 10,000 people a lot of money?
Starting point is 01:02:15 Yes. See? Yes. So now when you create your product that everybody, I mean, you give a high school of $100, you're going to say, oh, man, that's how you got that? Yeah. So when I got $100 though, but I can go impact 10,000 people, I can go impact 1,000 people. Now that $100 times a thousand is $100,000.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Now our people who want to reach six figures, I just showed you. You get you a product where you got a framework in there. You got an idea, you got some impact in that. So I teach don't focus on passive income. Focus on passive impact. Because the more people you impact, the more income will come. So if I got this course, and on this course it's $100, but I can go get 1,000 people to pay for it. Or I add more value in it and say, I'm going to come in there every month and give you guys coaching.
Starting point is 01:03:01 I'm going to give you guys live coaching. Now you're paying $100 a month. I'm doing what they're doing. Absolutely. So I got $100,000 a month if I can get there coming in. because of the real estate. So that's one property. Then I can go buy, do another course.
Starting point is 01:03:15 I got an e-book. I'm going to drive our traffic to that e-book. Now, when I'm sleep and flaco buy my e-book at 3 a.m. in the morning, how quickly are you going to get my e-book? Instantly, right? Now, did I send it to you in my sleep? No. Right.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Instant download, right? So now we have a system, and that system that has been brought up now, when you pay for it, it automatically goes to your phone. Now I may have it to where when you get that e-book, I'm gonna upset you on something else that you need. Then I'm gonna up say you on something else that you need. So when you're going to need your light bills, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:48 You're gonna need your plumbing. You're gonna need your electricity. So you got the apartment, but there's other things you gotta buy and use and pay on a monthly basis in order for everything to work. So I'm gonna do the same thing on the digital side. So that's digital real estate.
Starting point is 01:04:01 That's the concept of digital real estate. Now what can we do with the Metaverse? Right now, I've built my own world in the Metaverse called Black City. Oh, wow. It's on Horizon World. When you put that VR on, I got a building like this, and it's called Digital Real Estate. So you can literally walk inside my building.
Starting point is 01:04:18 It's going to say digital real estate on it. It's going to have my website on it. And eventually video going to be coming down. Right? So instead of me having a conference saying, hey, Flaco, fly out to Dallas, you know, fly out to Houston, fly to Detroit. I got this conference. Man, you can pop them, you can pop them VR on, and I can have a presentation. We all meeting up at a building, and we're watching a presentation together.
Starting point is 01:04:40 So what I'm doing is in the black city instead of me thinking about myself saying I'm going to create the world that's just for me. Like some people create a little small studios. And that's cool. They had a little podcast. But I created a black city because I wanted to think for the whole. So everybody ain't got money to get a Metaverse made.
Starting point is 01:04:57 So now people can come rent and lease offices from me. So when you look at my Metaverse, I got a building right here, storefront, for lease, billboard, for lease. Another building right here for lease. So when you come in, I'm a promote. We're going to promote Black City. We're going to promote Black City, but the more people that come in, they're going to run
Starting point is 01:05:14 into you. They're going to run into your studio. So it gives them another way to interact with us. Like there's literally people right now, God is my witness, they got a club in the Metaverse right now. Every Wednesday they have like a dance song. Do you know people paying $999 just to be in the VIP area? Wow.
Starting point is 01:05:30 In the Metaverse. That's crazy. They paying $999 to be in the Metaverse. So now we have to create a platform to where the brands, instead of me just saying, I do digital real estate, digital real estate, let me show you my webinar. When you put their VR on, it gives them a new experience. They can look up. They can look down. They can go into the bathroom. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:05:47 So those are some things that we can do in the metaverse. And also offer NFTs, of course. Now with the NFTs, a lot of people, you know, they run into the pump and dumps. But with the NFTs, the value of it is the access that you get. So now when I met this NFT and I keep 10% ownership,
Starting point is 01:06:03 if I say, hey, if you bought my NFT, and let's say my NFT is $200. And the bigger the brand gets and the more people that know about it, the more valuable your NFT is, right? So when you resell that NFT and you resell it for, let's say, $1,000 and I got
Starting point is 01:06:19 10%, I'm going to get $100 every time that NFT is sold. But when you get access to that NFT because I own the Metaverse, now with the NFT you get to unlock my door that I may have locked only for people that can get inside with the NFT. So now you can't come to the parties.
Starting point is 01:06:35 You can't come to the presentation. I may have have an exclusive presentation paying playing only in the Metaverse. And you can't get in unless you have this NFT. So those are some of the things, man, that you can do. How did you get into it, though? Again, man, like,
Starting point is 01:06:50 because I'm not really like tap into yet, man. This shit sounds like year 3,000 to 25, man. I just got in through trial and error. I just went in, I was looking, and then I'm a fan of group economics. So I found somebody in there that could build me a world. So what's that, sorry, what's group, what's group economics?
Starting point is 01:07:12 So when I say group economics, meaning, let me ask you, what's your gift? Me? I probably say like networking, you know, right? I can't really dance. I can't sing or rap. So I'd ask you what you can't do. Yeah. What's your gift?
Starting point is 01:07:29 Like, what's that thing that you can do that you're good at? Me? Just being like a happy, you know, you know, just like talking to people, you feel me? Networking. Yeah. Okay, now the scripture says your gift will make room for you, right? You have you heard that scripture?
Starting point is 01:07:43 But you know what we often miss? It says your gift will make room for you and bring you amongst great men. Yes. See? So I'm going to use my gift to be brought amongst somebody else who found their gift. And then instead of me trying to figure out how to build a metaverse, instead of me trying to figure out how to do automation on the back end, instead of me trying to figure out how to build a home, I'm going to say, okay, what's my gift?
Starting point is 01:08:03 My gift is content. My gift is networking. My gift is doing this. then I'm going to just spend my money with you. And when I spend my money with you to bring somebody to my event because you network, then once you need content or something, you may spend your money with me. And that's how we circulate that dollar.
Starting point is 01:08:19 So I think oftentimes in business, as we're talking about economics, a lot of us are, man, stagnant because we're trying to do everything in our business. You ever been in a position where you start in a business and somebody email you and you write back, man, we're going to get back to you in 24 hours. Thank you for contacting us. Ain't no us. It's just me. They ain't got no team.
Starting point is 01:08:40 But we feel good to say I'm self-made and I'm self-employed. Self-employed Negro, crazy. Because you can't impact millions of people by yourself. Yeah, absolutely. Everybody that we see, man, that got power and that's really impacted millions, they got a secretary, they got an admin, they got a team, man. So group economics is finding out what my gift is, finding out what I do good, get with Flacco who do what he do good, then let's bring that thing together.
Starting point is 01:09:06 So versus me trying to do networking because I got this event, I'm losing time because I'm supposed to be doing content. I'm supposed to be speaking, but I can't do my gift because I'm trying to do your gift. So they don't say your gift will make room for me. It said my gift. So that's what I mean by group economics, man. Find somebody else who can do it.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Because I believe in business, man, you either going to spend time or you're going to spend money. So for me, it took me 10 years to get where I met as far as like, this is a real estate, making money. Wow. Showing people how to make money online scale, right? Yeah. So you can either pay for my course where I'm showing you, literally,
Starting point is 01:09:44 I'm giving you insight that you can't go Google. You can't get certain insight by Googling it and YouTube and it, certain tactics and strategies. I'm giving you this in the course. Or, bro, go to the library and spend five years on your own. Go to YouTube University. That's what we love. You can learn great things on YouTube, but you know what we suffer from?
Starting point is 01:10:01 Over analysis paralysis. We're looking at this one video, damn, he gave me some gain. but he can get me everything. So now you can look at this video. Well, I like that. I'm going to do that. But then you look at another video. Then you two don't get you another video.
Starting point is 01:10:12 So you're all over the place. For you to come in somewhere where you can get everything in one place, how to create the product, how to grow the product, how to grow the product, how to close the sale, how to automate the sale, where you can come get this all in one place. That's valuable. And I would rather pay somebody $10,000, $50,000. They can get me there quickly versus me spending five years trying to figure out on my own. because I can get the money back.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Absolutely. All of us don't spend some money and get it back, but I can't get my time back. Exactly. So our most valuable, the most valuable thing that we have is money. It's not necessary, I'm sorry, not money, time, not necessarily money.
Starting point is 01:10:50 Yo, question, right? So let's just say, now you already got the back, you feel me? If somebody, let's say, had $2,500, right? Yeah. You know, brother Ben X, I had got 2,500 bucks, I want to invest. What would you tell them to put that money in stocks?
Starting point is 01:11:13 Is it stocks? Is it stocks? Is it like, what is it? NFTs. Mm-hmm. What's that? Yourself. Mm-hmm. Yeah, you got to put that knowledge into yourself.
Starting point is 01:11:25 Why? Because you can put, I can tell you, go put your money in this new crypto right here. Yeah. But if you don't understand the market, if you don't understand how. how to find out if it's the right NFT. If you're not patient enough to know how it works, if you don't know really how to invest when to pull out, bro, you just throwing money, bro, like at the lottery.
Starting point is 01:11:45 If I tell you, go put this money in this stock, but you don't understand stocks. You don't understand what you're looking at. You don't know what you're doing. Then you're going to be in a position where you may put it out too early or you may put it out too late. Like you don't know. So you want to get the knowledge about stocks
Starting point is 01:12:01 before you get into the side. You want to get knowledge about NFTs, before you get into NFT. You want to get knowledge about real estate. You don't want me to just say, hey, man, give me $10,000 for this real estate deal. Well, how is it, how is it structure? How much we're going to get among?
Starting point is 01:12:14 What's the percentages? What's the interest? You want to know all this beforehand. And I think many of us, again, we don't value you knowledge enough. So we need to spend $2,500 is not a lot of money. No. $2,500, man, not even getting people, people who make $2,500 or whatever.
Starting point is 01:12:32 They're not even qualifying for apartments these days for 2500. That's true. Three times a run. So what I would say is, man, go learn you a high level skill set. So this is what I mean. Give me somebody who you watch for financial advice, for financial game. I would say I'll watch you, watch Grant Cardone, and then, yo, yeah, man, you, Grant Cardone,
Starting point is 01:13:02 and then I was really into Jay Morrison. and then Negroes kind of like really, feel me? Like, like, just ruined my whole mindset when it comes to Jane Morrison. So, yeah, you and a Grand Cardone. And who do you watch for a self-improvement? I'll be real, man. I used to watch Kevin Samuels a lot. Okay.
Starting point is 01:13:23 And then once their brother passed away, I'll probably say, like, a few months after that, I kind of started YouTube. I found success. You know, what was it about Kevin Samuels that you, that you like that you was getting from him to help you in your personal life? Man, it's just that raw shit, right? Right. It's that, yo, man, like don't feel sorry for yourself, bro. Like, get up, find that high in demand skill, right?
Starting point is 01:13:52 And, yo, just do it for yourself. But don't feel sorry for yourself. Now, everybody don't learn from watching videos. Yeah. Some people learn from reading books, right? So what I would say, if I had $25, if somebody had $2,500, go find someone who need digital real estate. And this is what I mean by that. There's people every day they got 100,000 followers, 200,000 followers, 300,000 followers.
Starting point is 01:14:19 People follow them. They comment, they engage in high. It's not fake comments and fake likes. But they don't got no ebook. They don't have a link in the bio that even works. When you click on their web and the link in their bio, it goes to a website that's outdated. They ain't got no funnel set up. To when you go, there's an e-book.
Starting point is 01:14:40 And then when you look at the e-book, there's an order bump. And then when you look at the order bunk, there's an, I'm good. When you look at the order bump, now there's an upsell for $5.99, then you got something that's going to give them a time. You don't have no pathway for their customer. They just driving people to a website. They got a bunch of products, not knowing they're actually confusing their customer because they don't know where to start. You're the expert. You're supposed to show me where to start.
Starting point is 01:15:02 I would create the product for them. So I would listen to you go live. Ooh, that's dropping game. He's doing this interview. I'm going to transcribe that e-book. I'm going to format that e-book. I'm going to put the e-book together. Get everything in design.
Starting point is 01:15:17 Pay for it if I can't do it. Remember group economic, so I'm going to use that $2,500. Get it. And then I'm going to approach him. Not to ask him for money. Not to ask him, can you shout me out. Not to ask him, can you follow me? Not to ask you, can we go live?
Starting point is 01:15:31 Hey, brother, I saw that you was going live, man, and you give a lot to the community. I just wanted to reach out and add value, man. I created this e-book for you. I think it would add revenue to your business. If you like it, I would love to negotiate getting a percentage of it, man, and do this more for you. So now what did I just do? I'm not taking away from him. I'm adding value to him.
Starting point is 01:15:53 It don't cost them nothing to add it because it's the e-book. He ain't got to ship it. He ain't got to go to the post office. So now he got 100,000 followers. See, many of us, we say, I ain't got the following. Well, go give value to somebody who do got the following. Go give value to somebody who do got the business. So if you already got 100,000 followers, 200,000 followers,
Starting point is 01:16:12 now we're going to sell this ebook for $27. You got your calculator. Get your calculator. Right here. Now we got the ebook. Right here. We got the ebook for $27. Now, he does, we show him how to do a webinar.
Starting point is 01:16:23 We show him how to add more value to his audience. Because right now he's making some pretty good money. But there's a lot of things. he can do. There are some steps he can make. They can take it to a whole other level. There's always room for improvement. So let's say this man got 200,000 followers, but 400 people bought the e-book
Starting point is 01:16:40 for $27. Let's do the man. That's $10,800. But all I need, brother, can I do a 30% deal with you? Oh, shit, okay. So what's 30%? That's 3,240. So I just created
Starting point is 01:16:57 $3,000 for myself. But then remember, that's just on the launch though. He got 100,000 followers. So now he's going to keep creating content. And now instead of him going live just to give game, he'd never have a call to action. He's going live and he giving game, but he's sending them to a website that's not converting well. But now I don't create a funnel for him that's converting well. I got the copy on there. See, many people don't know what copy mean when it comes to business. Copy is the persuasive language that's used on the funnel and on the website that gets you to buy. So you can see what you're really going to get.
Starting point is 01:17:30 So I didn't got all that together. Now you done did a thousand sales in two months. Now what's a thousand times 27? A thousand times 27,000. Now what's 30% of 27,000? Woo. That's 8,100. 8,100.
Starting point is 01:17:48 With a 2,500 hour investment. See what I'm saying? Yeah. So when you add and it's not just, see, and that's, I'm going to get much more with that than the stocks. See, my stock's going to go up maybe 5% a year, 10% of year, something like that. it may go up, you know, it's going to be, but that right there, man, when this, the more this brother grows, man, I've got an $8,000. But what about when now, what about when I teach the brother?
Starting point is 01:18:10 Now you take that, now you take that $27,000 that you just made. Now we're going to go find somebody who can run ass for us. Yo, speak on the ass thing, because I heard that a funnel is the most powerful tour right now, right, with the Facebook marketing thing. Yeah. So how did you learn, learn, like, how to run ads and stuff like that? Well, I don't run ass. I do group economics. Okay. You know, I got somebody on the team that has been able to produce, man, eight figures for companies that we're about to work with
Starting point is 01:18:36 and partner with with ads. So he's running my ads. But the funnel man is very important. Like, for example, I got a webinar called Digital Real Estate. Now, my webinar, Digital Real Estate is showing you how to grow your income or your impact first in your income in 60 days. So a lot of people struggle with content. I show you how to make content, give you content ideas,
Starting point is 01:18:58 show you that you got content all within you. Then I show you the back end. Okay, this is the system that you need. This is the item. We give them our templates. Hey, here's our template to do it. So it ain't their hard. So we got a webinar.
Starting point is 01:19:10 Before you even get to the webinar, the next page I'm saying, thank you for Regism for my webinar. Right now, at a special price, you can get my e-book. Eight-step crash course to social media. Now I'm going to break down the game of social media because most people don't know how it works.
Starting point is 01:19:25 Most people think I'm just going to give me a new product, post a product and say, click the link in my bio. Man, you're not driving those sales with that. There's a structure. Yeah, people making videos, but what we don't know is there's a method to the madness of how people making these videos. So, for example, when I'm scrolling on TikTok,
Starting point is 01:19:42 if I come on there saying, what's going on, family, is your brother been ex. Today, man, you don't know all this way, man. But if I say, hey, man, here's three ways to make $3,000 in two days. See, now I got you. You see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:19:56 here's how to invest in real estate with no money. I'm going to get you three steps. That's going to make you, you see what I'm saying? Watch the whole video. So when we get the structure of how they make videos, now when I get the ads on it, and he's creating good ads out of that $27,000, now he don't put $2,000, $3,000 in the ass.
Starting point is 01:20:16 Now he got her following, but now we're going to reach 300,000, 300,000 more people, 400,000 more people with the right funnel. So now he's coming in. They may pay $27,000. for the e-book, but I don't upsold him on an exclusive package for 400. Yeah. So now let's say we don't reach 100,000 people, 200,000 people, and 50 people upsold for
Starting point is 01:20:37 $400. Do 400 times 500 times. I'm sorry. Times 50. Yeah, yeah, time 50, 400 times 50. There's still 20,000. 20,000. That's another 20,000.
Starting point is 01:20:48 Now we take some more ad money, and then we keep rinsing and repeating and we keep scaling and scaling and scaling. Now, guess what? Who teaching the product, me or him? And who's teaching it? Yeah. Well, him, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:59 Who delivering the product, me or him? Well, you, right? No. I got the e-book. He already gave him the system. So it's his system. Oh, gosh. And the system delivering it.
Starting point is 01:21:09 Nobody. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. Who responsible for customer support, me or him? And nobody, right? Well, their team may be responsible for customer support with their email. But look at how much money I'm making. Yeah, just chilling.
Starting point is 01:21:22 By just being a value. Yeah. So those type of thing, that's just a small. example, man, but those are the ways that you can invest your money. Go get you a skill set, man, that people need today. People are going live every day and just archiving their live stream saying, go check it out. Man, you better take that, you better take that Instagram live, turn that Instagram live into a podcast. So you're getting paid off the Instagram real, but you're also getting paid on anchor.fm. Now I'm getting paid on Apple. I'm getting paid on Spotify.
Starting point is 01:21:49 I'm getting paid on AHA radio. Then I'm going to take that video from Instagram and I'm going put it on YouTube, getting paid on YouTube. Then I'm gonna take that same video and put it on Facebook, get paid on Facebook. Then what I'm gonna do, my product that I was promoting, I'm gonna download and I'm gonna edit out, because I know YouTube gonna pay me off what? Of ass, right?
Starting point is 01:22:08 Yeah, yeah. But who asks on her? Not my ad. Nah. But what if I put my own ad on my video, so if no jumper getting paid hundreds of thousand dollars, let's say, for videos of somebody else ass and you know YouTube only giving us a percentage? What if I have my own product in my own video? If I'm getting paid,
Starting point is 01:22:23 10,000 off they ask what I'm going to be making when all these people watching going to buy my product. That's true. See what I'm saying? So I don't want to, you know, I know you probably get on with your question, but that's just how we can. No, bro, listen. Yo, listen, man, like, and I feel like that's why, you know, like we're lacking that, right?
Starting point is 01:22:39 Yeah. Is just good black brothers who is just giving the game, right? Who's not worried about the quick buck, you feel of me, you know, about the scamming, right? But I feel like that too, though, you know, do you like, feel like it? It's almost tough to give game because as soon as you tell black folks, you listen, I can give you the game, but my time ain't free. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:03 And now they start to talk shit about you, feel me? Like, do you feel like that's even harder to even, like, reach out to your own people and try to give them game, but they always expect some shit for free? No, not my method. I got nearly 40,000 posts on my Instagram. Yeah. So along this journey, I've been giving the game. Yeah. So now if you want my time, give me some dime.
Starting point is 01:23:28 You know what I'm saying? So for me, man, if you want something for free, go get my free e-book. Like right now, I do free consultations. Oh, wow. So if you go to bookbrotherBend.com and sign up for a consultation, I sit on a consultation and really look at your problem and help you find a solution. Now the solution may be getting a course. The solution may be what I told you. The solution may be, let's book a longer consultation because it's going to. going to take my time, me put money or my team to do it. But I do free consultation. So when I go live, people know it's a custom. They get on their pressing one because they know I may say
Starting point is 01:24:04 press one if you want to go live and anything they ask, I'm going to get it because I don't have like a lack of mind. It's a billion people on the planet. So if you take this game, man, some of us not even going to apply it because some of us still need coaches. You still need discipline. So you still need what my course is going to be able to give you. So I don't deal with that because I give so much for free already. Man, yo, and that's crazy that somebody can, can legit get a free consultation and a free call with Brother Ben X. Listen, how come you Negroes are not like using that, man? Hey, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:24:40 Listen, our last question, right? Right? Because, like, yo, yo, we've been here for about an hour and what? 40 minutes? God damn, man. Yo, listen, it feels like 10 minutes. I got so much more, but we might save that four parts. two of this. You feel me? I'm ready to come on back now.
Starting point is 01:24:56 Right now. Folks, Kepler asking me to like, actually this, one, I ain't watched a video so I don't got, like, too much. But apparently, like, you had a thing with Wack and on Clubhouse, again, I didn't watch the video, so if you want to, I guess, break that down,
Starting point is 01:25:13 like, like, like, like, like, what exactly are or are they talking about? So, I was on Clubhouse and Wack 100 came in the room and he asked a question about the Million Man March about where the money went. What?
Starting point is 01:25:28 Yeah, and I answered them. And the answer was simply, you know, I wasn't there at the time. Yeah. But I know the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan has did a public audit of every dime that he got, or they got, the March got from the Million Man March and Washington Post even posted it. Yeah. And it was actually over $60,000 in debt. So that wasn't even the profit.
Starting point is 01:25:53 So many of us may do, you know, okay, let's do a million times a dollar. Or let's do a million times this. But the jumbo tron when it comes to how much that stuff costs and how much it costs the rent and all that type of stuff costs a lot of money. I know what's crazy too is like when I hear about a million man March, I didn't even know, no, though, there was any type of like financial thing going on to it. Right? Right, right? I just assume that it was just, you know, like us as black folks finally
Starting point is 01:26:25 showing up and marching and showing solidarity. Like, where do people get concerned with any type of like funds? I don't know, man. Honestly, and this is me personally speaking. Man, I don't care if the minister made a million dollars that day. Yeah. He deserved it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:42 You know what I mean? Well, he don't sacrifice. Do you know the minister man has talked about being in. so much pain because when he was dealing with his cancer issue, they filled him with a bunch of radiated seeds. Wow. So his, he'd be burning. You know, he's in pain and he's supposed to take all this medicine.
Starting point is 01:27:01 He said, I never came on the podium high. He just spoke in pain because he didn't want to speak like that to us. Wow. So everything that the minister done been through, man, he's been, they tried to assassinate him. They tried to kill him on a plane one time. So it's just like so much that he has been through, man. We get a billion dollars, I don't care. Abe and Walser.
Starting point is 01:27:20 Because that's more valuable. What he's given us, man, it's more valuable than that dollar. Of course. How many of us have had $10,000 and lost it? How many of us have had access to $50,000 along our lifetime and lost it? But the knowledge that he gave us, man, that saved our life. Yeah, absolutely. The knowledge that he gave us, man, that's what's going to really prolong us and get us through
Starting point is 01:27:40 tough times and get us through dark times and things of that nature. So you can't even put a price on that. You got videos where the minister literally talking to people, they blow on smoke in his face, but he don't care. He's teaching him. I heard stories of him going into New York where he's going into the alleys and they swole because of the heroin and things of that. He's kissing them on the hand, tell him how beautiful they are.
Starting point is 01:28:00 So the sacrifice that the minister has made, man, for us, if he did make money that day, man, it wouldn't matter. But the character that he has, that's not even what he was on. That's not even what he was about. So to answer the question about the WAP 100 thing, I just answered the question. And, you know, I think it ended well. I don't think it was no beef initially. I think some things that took place after was kind of blew it up.
Starting point is 01:28:21 But I think it ended in peace, man. I think he just, I got the, he got the answer. And he made, he did say that he was testing me a little bit to see if I would. But, you know, the minister has trained as well. Of course, right. And so I answered a question with poise and I answered the question, you know, calm and collect. And I think it was, I think it went pretty well. I think it was a good conversation to get people to look back at the million man march to me.
Starting point is 01:28:43 So I'm always looking at where's God? Why did he permit such thing to happen? So maybe it was meant for him many people to go look back on the Million Man March and see what it was really about. Maybe some people didn't hear about it. I know certain people today still don't even know about the million men march. When I'm going door to door, I ask them, do they don't know about the million man march?
Starting point is 01:29:00 Some people don't know. You go door to door still? Absolutely. Wow. If, hey, yo, listen, I did not know that, right? Wait, what do you like do now, do to do, like, just preaching like the word? or what? I sell the final call
Starting point is 01:29:16 like every F-O-I do. Yeah. Yo, like, I know it's crazy though, like, I never knew that though, right? Like, I pretty much assumed
Starting point is 01:29:27 that like, you know, there's only like, like, just like, you know, so like, being Christians
Starting point is 01:29:35 is the Jehovah Witnesses. Like, we always just, you know, like, link, like, door-to-door stuff
Starting point is 01:29:41 with them. So, like, folks from, the nation Ashley go door to door and like get the word. That's what we're known for. Really? Do you know.
Starting point is 01:29:53 Oh, okay. Yeah, I know. A lot of times, you know, you see brothers on the corner, but the minister teaches us to go door to door. Because the paper, we're not just trying to get you the paper. That's a conversation starter. We can't survive all $2. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:30:07 So the conversation starter, and the reason the Hon. Elijah Muhammad, he said, got us in the suits because we are supposed to be businessmen. Yes. Business people. So when I introduced Flacco to the final call newspaper, I'm going to ask you, man, look at page number 19
Starting point is 01:30:21 and let me know what you think about that. Man, let's talk about, have a conversation about number 21. Let me get your name, your number, you eat, things in that nature, because I'm going to come back maybe with another product. When I come back, I may have some fish with me. When I come back, I may have a bean pie. When I come back, I may have a financial solution for you.
Starting point is 01:30:36 So that's what it's really for us to be able to go where they are because everybody not going to come to the moms. Everybody not coming to the study group, but if I can introduce it with the final call, this is a way for me to have a conversation with you and build a deeper relationship with you other than the final call newspaper. So, yeah, that's the way that the minister went. The ministry had 300 papers on this. He got pictures.
Starting point is 01:30:57 And he used to go door to door and things of that nature. So, yes, we all go door to door in our local cities and our neighborhood. That's why I was talking about when you asked that question, have we let them down? Many people know about the nation, man. When we act like we don't got no answers. and we all right like we ain't got no help, we just denying it when we, when we cussed the brother out who was at the door. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:31:18 We denying it when we deny that paper that's on the other side of the door because inside of that paper, oftentimes is the solution to many of our problems. Man, you're listening, brother, man, you'll listen. I'll say this, man. We've had a bunch of interviews. You've probably, again, like this has probably been my favorite one, bro, just by the knowledge, the word, man. I can't wait to have you back, you, feel me, bro?
Starting point is 01:31:40 Like I told, so far, like, we've had to reek back, I think, three times, man. Listen, I definitely want to do something to you, man, within a month, two months. It can take your time, but a month or two more, brother, you definitely got to come back, you know? Yes, sir. Man, I would love to. I got a lot in my story, man. I wasn't able to share, you know, due to time. So I look forward to coming back.
Starting point is 01:32:02 And I appreciate y'all for reaching out. Yeah. Because we were talking earlier before we started, man, why haven't I been on here? Yeah. You know, I don't go emailing people to come on. I just do the work in our way. Of course, I want to be on certain podcasts. Because of the amount of people that's being helped, you know, with the word, not just, you know, religion or God,
Starting point is 01:32:21 because I know people, you know, have whatever about that, but also financial as well. But everything I do, going to have God in anyway. So I'm going to slip it in there. But it's a lot of people that has been helped. So I appreciate y'all bringing me on the platform. We can reach more people, man, because this is definitely our mission. Reach more people and giving them the word. Man, you listen, man, no jumper coolest podcast in the world, man.
Starting point is 01:32:42 We just got done with a legendary interview with Brother Ben X. Listen, go to his brother page. Get those, you can get that e-book, get the word, get the lesson. Listen, get the free consultation, Negroes. Peace out, man. Peace.

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