No Jumper - Bruh Bruh on Durk & the OTF Indictment, THF Bayzoo's Death, THF Bruh Bruh Confusion & More

Episode Date: February 5, 2026

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No Jumper coolest podcast in the world. And today I'm in here with my man, Rimo, and we having a conversation with the legendary 900, bro. We got to get this story. What's going on, man? What's up, Adam? What's up with you, boy? Feeling pretty good.

How you doing? I'm cool, chilling. I've seen you at my fight. Yeah, you know how to come support you, bro. Had to tap him. I thought you're going to beat his ass. Yeah, me too. Yeah, he's going to beat his ass.

Yeah, it didn't work out the way I thought it was going to work. You got to practice more, bro. Two weeks, I ain't going to do it. Two weeks, definitely not going to do it. Yeah. He had two weeks too, though. Yeah. That niggas, he's probably been in boxing.

Nah, but he's been a big strong. Which probably helped a lot. What you was doing in Miami? Shit, I really came to support, bro. Oh, you came for the fight? Oh, word. I was up there for, uh, uh, act. Oh, yeah, yeah.

I was for acting AJ. How do you know AC? Through AJ. Oh, okay. How do you know AJ? To my boy SB in Philly. Right, right, right. He just put us together.

He's like, bro, we need to go to, uh, we need to go to Miami, bro. We need to go to Miami, fuck with acting him. I'm like, all, come on. Like, just book the ticket, man, come. I just book my ticket with her to. You're out there moving around this shit. I've seen you. I'm my boy networking.

Hell yeah. I know it was you when I seen that big ass eagle on your chest. Yeah. You know how to come, fuck, with the 20 tools. And the reamster. In the ringster. Do we got to break the story down from the beginning, or should we just get right into a lot of the shit

that's been going on recently? Well, let's get a little bit of the back story, for sure. All right, come on, what I want to know. Tell us a little bit about where you're coming from and where your upbringing was like. Yeah, I'm from Oakland, California. You know, it's kind of different from LA. Y'all got the Bloods and Crypt and shit.

Now, our shit, we just got the blocks and shit. So I'm from 900. Just, you know, come from a trenches like everybody else. Same old story. Right. What does 900 mean, though, because I ain't never been to Oakland, so like. You never been to Oakland? I ain't never been to Oakland.

I need to come up in my shit. Let's do it. I've been to Oakland a little bit, but. Yeah. It's like 9th Street, though. But basically it's 9th Street. It's kind of like the bottom, lower bottom's like the, the last hood you get when you go to

San Francisco. The last hood you hit because you can start from the east to hundreds to 90s, the 80s, the 70s, the 60s, and then it goes to the low ends. Or, Oakland be having like bluds and crips out there? No, no. No, no clips out there, no that.

Just all blocks. But then while the time you get down to like Sack and Stockton and shit, they're on all that. But you guys have kind of resisted that over there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We ain't never succumbed to that shit. That's just all like San Jose,

Sack, Stockton, all that type of shit. I have an idea for you. You should get a, Tony Hawk chain. Tony Hawk. Oh, the skateboard? Because he invented the 900.

Yeah. Oh, real? What's that a trick? Yeah. That's a trick. It was like super legendary on the X games. They like replayed it a million times

in like, I think, 2000 back then. Yeah, I used to play that. They used to play Tony Hawk every day before school. For sure. But the Tony Hawk chain? Yeah, I might get that.

That's a good idea, right? That's all I do. I might get that. Tony Hawk. He's rich as Hill. Huh? Tony Hawk, he rich's here. Stupid rich, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he'd been paid. But, okay, so you grew up out there. What was your young introduction to the streets like out there? Shit, I was really born in the street. Like, shit, as soon as I luck up the window, everything was already going on. As soon as I went outside from age, shit, four, five.

I was already watching everything from the porch. So, shit, as soon as I got old enough, I just got off the porch, start doing. It was just normal, though. It wasn't just like, I just chose it. It was just like, shit, this is already going on. Right. So you just, you know. I probably saw my first person died like 14, 15.

Right. You feel me? So it's like, shit. Every since then, it's like shit, shit, real. Definitely. What was your household like? Where's mom and pops at? They was in that motherfucker selling dope.

Big bro selling dope. Everybody's selling dope. My house was so close to the fucking school, bro. I can look out the window and see my house. And then some days my shit will be getting raided. You feel me? I'm like, damn, I know my daddy went to jail. You feel me?

My time I get out of school, by the time the bill ring, I already know. everybody went to jail. So it's like, shit, I used to come on. My fucking room just flip, doors open, nigger doors kicked off the hinges, all that type of shit.

Like, hella irritating. I had to, like, fix all my clothes, put all my shit back in the jewelry. That was like a routine, bro. So that shit got normal to. But yeah. So you come from a family of get money?

Yeah, yeah, for sure. Definitely. What kind of lessons do your parents give you about that shit, though? Were they trying to keep you out of trouble or were they telling you how to not get caught? They didn't, nobody could don't in that shit like, uh, I had to sneak and do shit. Like, you know, I couldn't really sell drugs or do nothing.

They weren't never like, even big bro used to be in that motherfucker whipping up doing what you doing it was like brother saying, no, I'm not trying to glorify the shit for you. This is how we're getting it. You feel me? We'll never know, yeah, hunt, do this and do that. And you're going to be next or you're next up. It wasn't like that. It was just trying to make it out that motherfucker.

You feel me? So shit, it's hell of shit going on, though. Like it's hell of murders. hell of dope selling hell of crack kids it's just poverty for real so it wasn't glorified though so i always had that mindset like everything i'm doing if i do jump in that shit i gotta get out of it it was just jump in it because i just want to be in it because i was raised by motherfuckers who trying to get out of it not just jump in it really trying to get out that monosso so you knew coming in the streets you were gonna have an exit plan on what you wanted to do type of yeah yeah

yeah and what was that exit plan for you music music has always been that Always been music since cash money. Being hell of little watching cash money and no limits. I'm like, man, that's what I want to do. Because I never played sports. Like I ain't basketball, football, none of that type of shit. I like chess. So I probably could have been like a chess player,

but I don't know if you make money off that. It's pretty tough. Yeah, just music, for real. But so you just always knew that you weren't really into sports? Yeah, hell yeah. I never was into sports, bro. I used to be trying out. I've tried out for the Oakland Dynamites and shit.

That should have worked for a little bit. And when you get to practice and the coaches yelling and all that shit. I'm like, I'm through with this shit. I can't do this shit. Who made you want to rap? High boys. Juvenile and shit like that. So, no limit. For sure, they made me want to rap.

But what about on a local level? Yeah, because, you know, you see the people you look up to, but then somebody around you've got to be doing it. Nobody around me was doing music. That shit was frowned upon. Like, if you was a rapper, it'd make you look like you hell of a boozy. Like, oh, you're a rap-ass, nigga. You feel of me?

Yeah. So, but locally, like, Missymore, Myr figures, MacDray, Too Shore, E40, like, all the Bay people type shit. So when it was time for you to rap, how, like, where were you going to get your rap shit off? Like, you had studios lined up down the street? I had an old school.

My brother had moved me to Stockton because I was up in Oakland. So he was like, man, I'm going to move you to Stockton. So he moved me to Stockton. I had like a little radio with the little cassettes. I remember like yesterday, it was a fucking 50-cent CD that came up. And I rap to the end of the beat. You know how the beat paid for like 20 seconds when the song go off?

So I rap to the beat. I just rap all on tape, recording myself on tape. Then he found the tapes. And he like, man, yo, that's from the rap. And then he just bought me the whole studio by next Christmas. He put like 20 bands on that shit. So he bought me everything. And he was in the game.

So he was looking for me something. He couldn't wait to find something that I like. So once he found the tapes, he's like, oh, this was bro like. And then he just bought the shit. and I've been rapping ever since. So when would you say you started rapping? Like 12. 2012.

No, hell not. Like, when you were 12 years old, I bet. So how many years would you say? Like, before you was rapping, when you started taking a series? 2019, bro. So how many years in the game you think

before it's like, you started seeing like, all right, this shit working a little bit? 2019. Yeah, how did you feel like it started to come together? Like, people started with you, and you start meeting people.

Yeah, like, yeah, when I left, because I never left. Like, I had, I was doing like, if you look me up, you would see some little shit called Up Gang. Like, I always had a little group in my hood. Like, I turned my whole hood up. We all was rapping, like, 2016, 17, all that type of shit.

But it was, it wasn't hella serious. We were just with it. But, um, I never left. Like, I never went nowhere else to rap. Like, I never went to Dallas. I never went to Atlanta. I never went to nowhere to rap. But once I did, in like, 2018, 19,

I had this shit with Tribe Boy Freddy. Then I'm like, Because I had camera cross some bread. I'm like, man, I need to really take this rap shit serious. So I end up going to Dallas and I end up linking up with Tribe Boy Freddie. Then that's my first song. Like, as far as being serious, like, I'm trying to put money behind this. Like, I'm trying to really pay for this and pay for promo.

Pay for, you know, all the videos, the clothes, all that shit. Like, now I look at it like it's an investment. So once I start doing that, that's when I start taking the serious. And I started getting little checks and shit. I'm like, all right, all right. Where were you like getting? the money to sort of fund your career because in terms of having fly outfits

and being able to shoot videos and all this shit, I mean, it gets pretty expensive. Yeah, some street shit. Okay. Some street shit, man, just make a show a motherfucker get it any type of way. Like, shit. Anything in the streets, so, you know, we're from Cali, so our culture is more with the bitches and shit.

So they'll get off the bitches, then you'll get off the weed, nakes go get off whatever going. And you take that and then go, go around, buy some videos or buy feature and shit. Yeah, yeah. So at that time, would you pay a trapboy Freddy for the feature in a video? You know, niggas be- Yeah, probably getting like $3,500 or something like that.

Or not like $2,500 or y'all just did it? Yeah, not like $2,500 for a video, then 35 of him. Who puts you on to the gang? Because a lot of people were like, man, a lot of rappers be having like mixed emotions about buying features. Or buying features and shit. Yeah, I ain't with that shit. Because we was in the street so tough like shit, we, I'd do whatever. Like, I don't really know these niggas.

So I'll pay you, if whoever got a buzz, who you buzzing, who are, who the hot? I just pay it and then get my little bud trying to steal their fans bang with me and then do my own shit like a little alley who like from a musical style perspective like what direction were you drawn in because it's like if you're from Oakland

your first big feature was with Traboer Freddy down in Texas and then like obviously a lot of people know you from with dirt and shit so you're probably drawn to a lot of the Chicago style drill shit like what would like what kind of music did you prefer or what was and even when you're saying that you were with a

cash money and shit. It's like another down south. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you know, even like New Orleans music, we've always been fucked with them. Like, we always fuck with that shit. Like, we always fuck with that shit.

Like, whether it came a little boozy, but if it comes to anything from the South, we always f***ed with heavy. So I always wanted to, like, lean towards the South, shit like that. I never wanted to put myself in the box,

like being from the Bay. Because you can go somewhere right now, motherfuckers don't know. Hey, man, we're from Oakland. You can't, they don't, they don't know who right from Like, do you know somebody who rap from Oakland? Like, who you listen to that from Oakland?

Like, who you listen to that? Not too short. I would say too short. Currently, nobody. That's what I'm saying. So it's always been like that. But you can come to our shit and you will hear that shit are all around,

you probably see a thousand cars playing the Oakland, but it's only in Oakland. You feel me? So it's like when I did my music, like, man, I want to be bigger. I want to be world where. I want to be more. I want more for going to be slapping my shit in Chicago.

I want my shit to be in Detroit. I want my shit to be in everywhere. So you knew you made a mental decision like I got a branch out and leave Oakland for this story. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Why do you think there's such a disconnect with like Oakland music being played like worldwide or outside of this Oakland? Probably because of the shit we talk about like, like I say, our shit is the Pimp culture.

Like everybody don't really rock with that shit like that. And then our style of beats, you know, we got that little, that little funky type of little shit. So, you know, that shit don't really be lit everywhere. Like, North Carolina, that we talk about. NorCal always has been like its own world and then the music doesn't necessarily just, you know, translate somebody like mag dray is like or just like norCal in general like somebody like magdray is like such a gigantic entity out there and then really when you look at the rest of the country is not nearly the same fandom which but i feel like that's kind of changing because a lot of the

stuff from northern california is starting to like sound more similar i think and like yeah like jabot was the one person that i felt like i just had all these chicago kids i meet up with scruly g and he's asking me about jabo yeah 250 asking me about jabo i'm like like oh shit like that's because J-bo speak how they speak like disrespectful so they like that type of shit it's like you know if if whoever rapper like even like some of Detroit niggas they come off disrespectful too sometimes so like uh no what's the other niggas name uh florida they'd be disrespectful uh foolio nil yeah yeah yeah yeah but they'd be disrespectful too so like if you disrespectful they like that shit bro that's one common language everybody loves

Yeah, because that's a new generation now, I'm like messy. It's like more, you know, crash out. And it make you go up too. And that's one thing I try not to do. Like, I try not to compromise a lot of the shit that I got. Like, I value to just, you know, just catting off and just doing that type of shit. Because I do still got my kids that look up to me. Like, I got a son.

I got a little nephew, a little cousin. So they look up to me in a crazy way. So I don't want to make them follow me because I'm out here catting off. So if they see me crash and I'm doing some shit, then they go want to come up and start. doing it so I kind of not compromised by certain shit knowing for a fact I can say some I can say certain I can say certain shit and go up you feel me yeah I can say hell of shit and go up but I just try to take it slow yeah we all deal with that because like even

as a podcaster like you know the best podcast moment I could have is there I just trip out on somebody and violate them say I'm I want to do something to him whatever and it's like but then that comes with a lot mm-hmm no for real I've been saying that shit thanks so how you meet foolio because I'll be seeing you move moving around, you said you linked with Fulio back in the day. I made him all here, bro. I forgot what studio was at, but I was all here working. And then, damn, I think I left here.

Yep, I think I left no jump when I did this shit was sharp. Oh, yeah, I left for Sharp and I was at the studio. Then I ran across that nigga, yeah, man, we just hopped on the song. He just walked in the booth. Just at a random studio? You just happened to be there? I can't remember what studio was, yeah, but we were at the same studio. Because, matter of fact, we both were fucking with create.

All right, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. It is crazy with Fula because the last time that he was here, which I guess it was maybe a different time, but last time he was here, he had the big boot on his foot. He got shot in the foot.

Yeah, and like the whole interview we're just talking to him about leaving and, like, you know, moving somewhere else, et cetera, and he ain't really hearing it. That's crazy he got killed like a year later. That's his last interview ever. It was. I was.

Last interview you ever did. I was out there when he got killed. I rode past. I was already in Tampa. Wow, really. I was already out there on some, other shit too yep I drove by saw a little shit the holiday inn yep that shit crazy um when do you connect with dirt girl like when do that connection come uh like

what's that 2020 oh 19 20 yeah right after tribe boy freddie because I did some show with try boy freddie then I did some shit with fredo bang and then I did some shit with dirt all right is this all right 20 to let me try to line up where dirt careers at at this point because you know at one point dirt this was before back and uh back in blood it's before This is right before back in blood. He heated up so much with that and the Vaughn shit and everything. I feel like Dirk had the revision, like he got back lit when him and Drake did the song. So this before him and Drake did the song?

Yeah. I think that was 2021 or some shit, right? Yeah, because after we did that, he started going crazy. Yeah, and he starts heating up in here. So y'all, y'all in 2020, y'all meet where at? In Houston. Where? Because I see I got the quarantine in Houston song, right?

Yeah. even have a name to it well okay august 2020 is when the the dirk and drake record came out actually so when did you in the quarantine song come out because like 19 before you said uh 20 20 what august 20 20 is when they did that song or at least when the video came out yeah yeah so yeah so right before the whole drake wave came yeah for sure yeah because we went on tour they was performing that bitch yeah how did i get locked in y'all just yep through my man's because i Like I was saying, I was getting serious with the music. Like, I was putting money behind.

I'm like, man, what's gonna really take a nigga over the top, bro? I'm like, this smirk shit. I asked my neck, he's like, bro, smirk. Like, do something with smirk. It was either between Smirk, little baby, and future type shit. I'm like, man, I'm gonna shoot smirk. Because I relate to him all.

Like, I like his story. Yeah. Like, I really saw him walking on his pants back in the day and doing shows and going through hell of shit, hell of trials and tribulations. I'm like, man, I can relate to this. You feel? I can't really relate to little baby like that because it seemed like he already rich.

Like I just, when he came out, he was already popping, like he was already rich, like they was already rich. Yeah. You feel it be? So, Dirk, I like, man, I'm gonna, well, we probably can talk the same shit. But the options was, you said, Baby, future, or Dirt. But they was taxing for the features back then.

Cause I know baby, he probably had on a runner at this time, so. Yeah, I don't remember. I just rushed out to smirk through some street shit. And I gave him like a hundred. But I was down there. Oh, you gave him a hunter ball? Yeah, yeah. That's a big investment though.

Yeah, it was. serious, I was dedicated. Still is, but at that time, like, bro, this shit was serious. Like, I really got to get out the streets. Like, I really want to take this shit to take this shit serious. If I do this, I'm all in. Like, it ain't no stopping. But no label behind you, your own honey.

No label. No label. That's respectable. But were you looking at it? Like, because I think the smart way to buy feature is, like, if you know that an artist, when they meet you, you feel like they will f*** with you and then you pay them for their time, but then ultimately you get, like, more of a real connection with the artist.

Was that what you would think? That's what it would. I really didn't even. I was just thinking the song. I want to get this nigga on. I ain't know nothing about clearing songs or none of that shit. Like, I just want to get this nigga on the song.

We're from to turn up. So I had reached out. The nigga did the song. I ain't even pay him yet. He just did it. And he was already popping. So I was like, man, I'm like, man, I'm like, meet you in Houston.

He's like, all right, bet. I think he think I was playing. In my mind, I'm like, man, this nigga probably think I'm lying. You feel me? So, but the nigga ended up doing the song. I had flew to Houston. I flew all my people with me. We went out there.

And then he pulled up. Then he, like, he played the song. He already had a song for him. I took all the cash after he played the song. I'm like, ooh, you tripped on this bitch. Gave him the cash. They were just being locked in there. He said, he's like, man, we ready to drop this bitch.

I put this bitch on my page. He was trying to put it on his page. Yeah. You feel me? Like, man, we ain't got no clearances, no nothing. He was like, but whenever you ready drop this bitch, we go drop. You feel me? And I just, he's like, I just took his number.

Then we just stayed in contact every since then. And we just been locked in. Did you get, like, a lot of time to actually, like, have a conversation with them and like you guys really feel like you formed a bond there. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, are you OTF? Yeah, yeah, that's family.

Yeah. That's family. Like, all of my brothers from Buka, Booney, twin, everybody, I got my own relationship with everybody. Like, I just came around and just built my own relationship. Yeah. You feel me? But we all, like I say, it's all similar.

Like, we're just similar. You feel me? I think it's all real niggas though. Like, you can go anywhere, bro. Like, you down there can be at home, and you're at home town, and you're down there everyone relate to like that. You feel, me?

My mother's gonna be crossing you all type of shit, but it takes you to go away somewhere else. Like, damn, that's my fucking like me. And that's how I went. But, yeah. Who from OTF, you feel like, besides dirt, you was probably closest to? Or you still got a relationship?

Buka and Boney. All right. Buka and Boney. Then my motherfuck and brother's, like, me and Buk, me and Boon got the same birthday. Oh, right, right. When we hear I say twin, like,

we ain't on no Atlanta shit. We say the twin. Like, we really, because our birthday the same day type of shit. You also be fucking. twin from O'T from O'T L too. Yeah, twin too, yeah, that's bro. Yeah, twin, free D-ski, free ballhead,

all them niggas, all them. Every time I go to the wreck, it's good. Same thing when they come to Oakland. When they come to Oakland, they're good. They don't got to worry about shit. They don't get to work about shit. They didn't come to Oakland plenty of time. Well, went through your head when you found out

about the indictment. I just left the show. Really? Yeah, we went on there for the birthday badge. Oh, shit. Yeah, I went out there. I took my son out there and hell of shit. So we went out there.

That was my last time. at the studio with Didi and uh shit I just said I stay for like a day I went out there and left like I stopped there for two days yeah I stayed out there for like two days two days two days then I cut and then as soon as I land like when I woke up the next day I just see everybody going to jail I'm like what the fuck because you got arrested well the day after the concert or like everybody got arrested I think a day after the concert and then he went down like smirk went down like a couple days after the area everybody else.

Right. Because all right, so a lot of people that was there, they were trying to say, like, the feds was in the building. Like, I felt like the- Yeah, they said they was in there walking up saying like, they didn't want to make no big deal type shit. Like they didn't want to, they was in that bitch. Yeah, that was the energy you felt too?

Yeah, they said they was in that bitch. Yeah, because like everybody that was there, they said, like, you literally see feds walking around so like niggas felt some type of shit on the way. Yeah, yeah. Man, that shit crazy. Feds don't be bullshit. Mm. That's real.

So, all right, one thing that did, all right, because, Recently, we haven't heard from Dirk that much. Like, and the one time we did really hear from him was a phone call you had with him. Yeah. That was you on the phone with him that leaked in, I guess that was the first time we heard Dirk since his arrest. Yeah.

Cause soon as I heard, like I said, as soon as I heard, he went down, we're from Kelly. So like, damn, what Jail land? He in LA. All right, so I just sent the kite to some nigg's like, man, bro might be coming through that motherfucker if he come through that motherfucker hit me. Then put him on the phone, let him know.

Like, you feel me, it's good. Yeah. That's what they did. So when he did that in that motherfucker quick. How are you able to, so all right, so the kite, your homies in there and got you on the phone and type of shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I was about to say, how the hell you begin dirt on the phone so quick? Looking out for niggas, bro. You really in the streets like you really know, we're already doing this shit, it's already in the fact. Like, all right then I probably got 100 niggas in jail, 100 niggas in the state, 100 niggas and the feds. You feel me?

Hundred niggas dead. Hundred niggas paralyzed, so I know niggas everywhere. Yeah. And we're from Cali, so you know, our jails is crazy, bro. So yeah, so I just already knew people that was in there. I've been already talking to them way before Smirk even went there. So I was just looking out for him. You know.

He's been good in there? Yeah, he was cool. He was cool. Because they were saying that he was in like a solitary confinement for like 90 days. He was out now. Yeah, he out now. Why was he even like, what hell down in there for someone? You know?

I don't know. I think they said he got called with a watch. The Apple Watch. Yeah, watching something. Where? Yeah. But that shit ain't cool, though, bro. I just be like, damn.

A motherfucker go from having everything to, you know, losing it all, especially from working forward and then it just all took away from you. That shit crazy, man. Being on the top of the game, you know? Hell yeah. So that's why I'm going to be trying to keep living, do my part, like knowing the conversations I have with bro, like, you feel, me? Like, bro, keep going.

Like, you can do this shit because it'd be times where he used to invite me to all type of meetings, all type of tours and shows. I used to miss him. Like, bro, I got to do this. I got to do that. He gets to be on my ass. Like, bro, you're tripping, bro. You got to get out to these streets.

bro, you got to come, what you're going through. Like, you feel me? You see what I'm going through? I didn't got over all this street shit. Got Vaughn, his brother, just working and just constantly working through all that shit. Even when he's going to something, he's still working. So it's like, looking at that,

I'm like, damn, he big as hell and he is still working. So it'd be like, it makes me want to be motivated. Like, I got to keep going to. There's kind of like a narrative where people keep saying that everybody turned their back on Dirk and that his first court date had mad people there and now his court days don't have as many people there and that there's people, f***,

or rappers that he don't get along with, et cetera. Like, from your perspective, you think there's truth to that? Yeah, hell yeah. But it's the same thing. Like, I peeped it like, when, uh, when bro, the other nigga went to jail, hell of his fans came to bro.

And now when bro down, now hell of his fans going over there, it's like whoever out, whoever on top, that's where they go go type of shit. So it's like, I really don't get too much, like, into the fans and shit, bro, I just be like, bro, make sure I do my part and make sure I tap in, make sure I can do what I can do. What about other rap niggas that you see that?

Y'all was all cool hanging out with. You see how they moving. He and they be switching like niggas be, but I guess it was always business to him. But who's the same, bro, come on tomorrow. They won't switch back. That's like what bitches do. You think Dirk will be with these niggas? Or you think he got a different mentality?

He's seeing everybody switch up on them. He probably won't, bro. I wouldn't, would you? I would. You see how the shit plays? it out. Like, how many people really screaming on free dirt? Exactly. That's why you saw me at the fucker show. Yeah, you had this.

I got the free smirk hoodie on. Like, niggas be scared to wear that motherfucker. Like, I'm wearing that motherfucker. I really come from shit, so it ain't, I walk without, I walk in my truth. Like, you feel, that's whatever. I wear that shit on my sleeve, whatever like that was, bro. But it is, it's kind of interesting to me because there's some people who I feel like took aside as if they were on some street shit when choosing between Dirk a young boy.

But then in reality, it was some industry shit. And they might have been acting like it was on some brotherhood shit or some street shit or whatever. But reality is, it's like you're entertainers. You're going with whoever's going to help you make money and get bigger. And it's almost like now. I mean, we haven't like heard somebody like a little baby talk about that or anything like that.

But it kind of feels like that might be what they're thinking. It's like, well, shit, I didn't really. Like I might have been making music with you, but I wasn't like your day one bro like that. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. That's true. Like, I can see like from a business perspective, like, right away.

You feel? Like, he, he's doing, like, he's gonna do a tape with a bro, I think. But he was fucking with bro too, so it's like, that's more of business. But for a nigga, like, me or a street knickers that's really, like, in the streets, for real. Yeah. When we ain't in the booth and we're doing whatever the fuck we're doing, it's like, all right, we this, we that. Like, I ain't, when it comes time for it, like, this one I'm at.

You feel me? Like, I ain't, it ain't even worry about bro. And I'm just, it just is what it is, bro. So you doing something with young boys off the table? Yeah, hell no. No. Yeah. Drake said no to it too.

Yeah. Because sometimes shit be low, like that shit be deep. Like it'd be real for some people. You got to think. Kill for people that's dead, bro. So if you loyal to a. Through their death, you for sure can be loyal to a motherfucker. That's a lie.

And somebody like Drake might not be like a super street dude, but he clearly has respect for it. Yeah, not for sure. He stands on shit. That's why I fuck with Drake too. Like, I fuck with Drake. He stand on. You know, he's standing on shit for real. And he probably ain't even street as most of these niggas.

These niggas really be street, but they just be bitches. They just want to, they like bitch. They want to go wherever the bitch is going. The bitches will go wherever the money at. We expect that of girls. Yeah, so we expect that from bitches, but from girls. But niggas would be like, what the fuck? I don't know.

Niggas be scared. Yeah. Yeah, it gets tricky, though. Because, like, even Herb got caught up singing a song, and niggas is mad at him. But it's like, how much loyalty can he really, like, niggas can't even listen to her? I mean, young boy shit?

Like, is that disrespectful or you feel like, niggins shouldn't be playing on that shit? Yeah, no, that depends on their, I don't know where their relationship. You feel me? So if they relationship was like that, then I don't think he'd be on no shit like that. But obviously, it's not like how, you know,

how I should be or how bro probably think it is or whoever the fans think it is for me to care like that, you know? Somebody who was outspoken was OTF twin. Yeah. He wasn't really, all right, so, you know, Young Thugger had a phone calls that leaked in the phone calls. He kind of was saying,

some shit about how like Dirk was acting funny while he was locked up, wasn't clearing shit for him and shit. But he was saying when Dirk was not hot before the Drake feature, he said him and future was the ones holding Dirk down. Dirk coming to Atlanta trying to know, like use their clout and shit to get where he at. But then like when he in jail, he hitting Dirk line, Dirk not clearing shit, reaching back to him.

Then I think OTF Twin went and said that, uh, I guess when it leaked, he felt the way. And he was like, man, never, I never listened to a nigger who were addressed and shit was kind of like taking shots at thug what was your thoughts on that whole situation was thug bogus for the phone call you think him and derga be able to like they still cool for a nigga to say some shit like that bro he already feels type of way because if the phone car never came up then he already would have been feeling like that and then would a bro come on then they just fucking with it and the whole time this nigga feels like away inside of his head and then he probably fake it the whole time like he'd be faking like he cool with bro the whole time he feels type of way but if it

wouldn't if it went for them phone calls the motherfucker would never knew but on the flip side of that. Doug feeling some type of work. He's like, shit, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, smirk was, he was, he was on his free thug shit. He was, he was, he was, he was, he was on his shit. I ain't, I don't know, bro. I don't know.

It's tricky because it's like, I feel like everybody has conversations between their friends or their, their girl or whatever, but, but it's not like, like, you can have a conversation about somebody without, and, and say things that you wouldn't say to that person's face without you being a f*** up person because you know and then when your private conversation gets leaked it's like that's such a weird thing to deal with them. But now that's like some real

pillar talking type shit though like hell of that shit I don't I don't talk like that like that. Like you can pull up my conversation up it ain't gonna be like that. Yeah yeah. It ain't gonna be like that bro I said man we if a nigga bragging we don't fuck with man we don't that nigga we ain't that nigga and that's that there's part of me though that feels sympathy

for though just because he was sitting there rotten in jail for all those years and like you know That shit got a fuck with your head. Like, you know, for sure, if somebody ain't showing you love, you're going to start feeling away about it. Like, I give him a lot of grace in terms of, like, man, you are going through it, you know? I don't know.

Yeah. How many people you know, Jill? A lot, yeah. But, like, how long they've been there? Like, what's the person, you know, like, been there for a minute? I mean, Brick been locked up for a year. I was just did an interview with Y.M. Babe.

He's been locked up for a couple years at this point, five, six fucking years. I don't know. It is weird. Like, when somebody's locked up for a long time. I know motherfuckers who've been locked up, bro, for like 20 years. Yeah. You feel me? And I have conversations with them on the daily.

And I know people that's been locked up for five years. And once. So when they come to a nigga doing three years, how long it's like, that's not even enough time for you to be feeling like that or something type of shit. Like, bro, worry about coming home. Worried about your case. Worry about all that type of shit. Yeah.

It ain't really on to really be pillow talking on hell of niggas. Like, bro, we don't, like I say, you can pull our conversation up, bro. We ain't on no shit like that, bro. We don't even. I can vouch. Like I know I ain't on no shit like that. But that's some different shit, bro. Like we'd be having deep conversations,

but we'd be talking about the kids, but we'd talk about getting home. Nicky what you want to do when you get home. It's hell of shit you can talk about, bro. But, you know, we ain't doing no pillow talk. That's just us, though. Yeah. I feel it.

No, it was a lot of pillow talking on no phone. I'm not going to lie. So, oh, yeah, it's been a lot going on, though, with the whole OTF shit. Because, like, all right. One of the main things in your name might get mixed up with is because you're 9-100, bro, bro, but then they got a nigga named THF, bro, bro, bro.

So how many times niggas be confusing you with THF, bro, bro? I know that happened. Every day. When I first came out, bro, when I dropped the quarantine and he was and shit, bro, I had a hell of rat emoties on my page. I'm already known. I'm like, bro, they got to be, because even me, I'm like, wait, wait, this is non-hundred. I'm even getting it confused a little bit.

I'm like, what the fuck? Even, like, that's how I know. That's when I knew this music shit crazy. You can't believe everything you see. blogs and shit. Brubra is such a unique name. Yeah. That it is kind of like confusing

that there would be two rappers in the day. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, no, bro. That shit was irritating. Because I feel like I do too much that had that shit on my name. Like, I do too much. But, no.

Like, no, bro. It's a difference. But you know, the fans definitely was on like, ah, is this the same nigga? I'd be saying with dirt. This brubber. But then it's like, nah, it's a whole other brub. Because the bro post to be in jail.

So they're like, bro, when the fuck you get out of jail? How the fuck? I'm like, bro, I was never into you. I ain't, this ain't that, bro, bro. This ain't that, bro. I really just ignored it, like, because it was so irritating. I'm like, bro, I don't even want to. But how did you become brubber in the first place?

That's the slang in my hood. Everything was just brerbrer. A lot of people, but I feel like people used to say it more than they say it now. Yeah, it was. That's why I kept the name. I could have been changed my name. Like mez. Like meez, you feel me?

If you go to my hood, they're like, Mez, Mez, mez, mez. But, uh, berber is like, like, something that we used to say when I was younger. You feel it always be like, man, what's up, berber, this, berber, this, ber, blah, that. Everything's just berber all day. So it's like, damn, I'm going to take that slang with me no matter how big I get, so I can always remember, you know?

Definitely. For sure. So how do you know Brick, baby? I don't know Brick, baby. Oh, you know? Oh, I thought you did for some reason. No, I was from the action. No, if I was going to ask, do you know Brick.

No, because you know. Brick be known everybody from the OTH camp. Yeah, yeah, they were fucking, but I don't know. I ain't never met him. You didn't know why your frequent went. Uh-uh. What about, yeah, what about Vaughn? Was you on Vaughn ever close or?

No. I want to do some of Vaughn too. That's a horror, RP, bro. He got, you know, he got killed like a week after that video. Because two days? After which video? The quarantine? Yeah, the quarantine in Houston.

Because I did it, it was crazy, bro, because I had shot the quarantine in Houston. And my nigga got killed that same night in Houston. Like, he had got killed on Gritty D. RIP, my name, Gritty D. He had got killed on some shit. out there. In Atlanta? No, in Houston.

Oh, in Houston. In Houston, like the same night we did the video with Dirk and him, we went to the crib. Niggie, he wanted to go buy some surfers, some niggins, some little juice and shit, and he ended up getting killed. That same night. And I had posted on my Instagram, then Buka ended up hitting me. He like, damn, bro, sorry for your loss. I'm like, yeah, bro, this shit crazy, bro.

Then Smirk reached out. He's like, sorry for your loss and shit too. And then, um, like, the next day, Vaughn got killed. And I had to tell him, like, damn, sorry for y'all loss, bro. lost bro so it's like that street shit just crazy bro I ain't get to meet him no I never met him yet I wanted to he just died so fast damn you know so what I had some do you know is the change in Derek after that like him up for a while uh nah when I saw me like I say like bro the nigga always working like he's like super being like he just worked through whatever he's going through

he just working through shit so I never really saw like that yeah I mean somebody like him I never really saw him wear no uh emotional shit on his sleeve he just like he just like lost so many people over the years, that a certain point, people kind of learn to, like, work through it. Yeah. And I feel like we all lose a lot of people, bro. But the thing is,

what I'd be trying to wrap around my head, when you're that big. Yeah. And you still gotta work. Like, because bills still gotta be paid. Ain't nothing changed, but your bills, your bills is bigger.

But you still gotta work. It's different, too, because if somebody that you're just friends with from your neighborhood or whatever gets killed, then you're gonna have, like, a small group of people that really know about or understand or whatever. Meanwhile, like Vaughn getting killed and all of a sudden, Dirk is like just under fire.

Like, I'm sure he probably separated himself for the internet or whatever, but that's a lot to deal with too in terms of just the public perception. Yeah. Yeah, that shit crazy, man. What made you gravitate towards the eagle? I can't stop looking at the other thing. We just flying high, man. Like, flying high.

You got the matching ring too, huh? Yeah, but the ring to match. We just, this is OTF right here, ESR. But we just flying high. Like, we just flying. We ain't flying with the people. pigeons. We're flying all over at the top. We ain't really coming back down. We just flying high, bro. We want some. We're coming down, getting that shit going back up. So we ain't really trying to argue with motherfuckers and be in the, like I was saying, like, I ain't really trying to compromise myself for a lot of shit, you know, or even to blow up. So it's like, we just flying high, bro. But you still stay in California or when you move at some point? Yeah, no. I don't stay in Cali. I stay in Houston.

Okay. Just like the lifestyle out there more? Yeah. It's more, it's slower to me. To a Caliw, it's slower. Yeah. How do you feel about like, I know you be seeing all the crazy headlines with Dirk and the OTF trial and all this shit?

How do you be feeling when you be seeing all the, like, the leak they be saying, like, all right, this week they're saying that they got messages for 2022 where Dirk put a million dollars on Kondo Head in the trial. Then you're next week, not even next week, but like, probably like a couple months ago you had OTF Vani. His dad was going on there saying some crazy. allegations. What do you be seeing or what do you be thinking when you be seeing all this

shit? I should be hurting because it's like, bro, motherfucklers making a circus out of bro life. Like, he's really going through shit. He really from his kids. Like, he ain't with his kids. He can't touch his kids. He can't hug his kids. He ain't with his family. He ain't, his daddy just came home. He ain't really with his daddy like that. He ain't with his mama. He ain't, you know, he ain't with his family. So, but motherfuck is all right here making a circus of it. You know, I don't really get into all that type of shit. Like, I don't be, I don't be with that shit. Like, that shit weak to me. you know what I mean but that's what's going on in the world like everything is trolling the

motherfuckin the motherfucker and they're trolling the motherfucker's that just what it is like I'll be seeing on fucking Instagram all day we scroll it's a page I can't it's a Cali page but every time motherfucker die they'd be like uh such and such got this noodles spattered on a plate today it'd be like be playing like it just be it's no respect bro and and that's the kind of account that wouldn't exist if people couldn't just be anonymous yeah because the shit that he says if people knew who he was, that would be all-ed. A motherfucker come see you about that. Because it's like real bad.

They'd be using like the slurs, the gang disses type shit. Like if somebody, you know, whatever term they use to dis that person's hood, they'd be using that. Like after they die, I'd be scrolling through my feet like, bro. Yeah, no, for real. A lot of this shit, you got to have tough skin for this shit, bro. Some motherfuckers don't got tough skin. That's why a lot of motherfuckers crash out in public.

Because they can't take certain shit. Like, you feel me? Even me? Like, I don't think I can take certain shit. That's why I don't put myself in certain shit. Because if I do, I might just crash out on camera. I might smoke a nigga on camera. I might, whatever.

So I don't put myself in certain situations, though. It reminds me of like when you go to NBA game and you hear people yelling crazy shit at the players. And you know that these dudes, like, have egos and they have self-respect and they don't want somebody to, like if they were at the club and somebody says something crazy to them, they might while out. But during the game, you could be hearing somebody yell the craziest shit at them,

and they just can't say shit. They just got to learn to not react, you know? Yep, some on Duriak when they had like a bad game. Yeah. Man fucking have a bad game. Yeah. What? Motherfolk taking their jersey, yo.

Yeah. Stepping on my head to get to your head. Yeah. Yeah, though, but that shit crazy though. It's a fucking time right now, bro. It's, it's hell of disrespectful. Like, it's a f*** up time right now. It's crazy with Dirk, too, because it was like,

if we were to look at all the headlines since he got locked up, probably, like, at least half of them are just, like, blatantly false. Shit that got disproven, like, right away. Yeah, that's fucked up. bro, let's f*** up. People are just so desperate for any news about them, that they'll just come up with anything. And reality is it works,

is that people will come up with a fake headline and all of a sudden you see real outlets posting about it. Yeah, but that shit don't really matter in court, you know? Like, this is for example, like, a motherfucker could be saying, and Berber doing this, he did that, or Berbera killed this person, he killed that person, he did this and did that and did this and,

but if they're doing this and going to crime stoppers and going to the detectives, and doing all this shit. Tects me like, let me go look into this shit. My motherfuckers might tap my phone. But I frame on my phone saying nothing. They've been like,

damn, I've been listening to this nigga for a year straight. He can't say nothing about nothing. It's always family. It's always this, always that. So they were like, I'm going to kill that because that shit costs money. And I kill that. And that's that.

So motherfuckers really don't got on the word about, but it just be f***ed up how it is. Like, motherfuckers don't give a fuck. They just want to, because you get paid, you get paid off of it. Who's on the current roster of OTF right now? We got you. We got duty low.

Who else? Current rappers. Buka. Yeah, my nigga Brizzo, T.E. Brizzo. I'm going crazy with Brizzo right now. Brizzo's on OTO? No, he's OTIF. He's TTE, though.

It's like the same shit. He's hard to see her. Buka. Bucca. Bucca just dropped. Right. Bucca just dropped. It's the same people, but I'm just dropping. Like, I'm making sure I put my work in through my part.

How do you feel about, like, you know, everybody been saying ever since dirt got locked down locked up like OTF down bad you know yeah dude got shot in the land and this shit and they're saying like you know I think Big Mike was he was the one saying like if Dirk wasn't out the niggas wouldn't be playing with OTF if Dirk wasn't locked up niggins wouldn't be playing with OTF like this

you agree that it's been like a I don't know Big Mike is he was a King Vaughn co-defendant Wooski brother yeah but yeah he basically did an interview and he was saying like ever since Dirk got locked that he felt like a lot of people been playing with OTF, like we've seen Dooie Lo get shot, then RIP zoo. You feel like, I mean, of course Dirk been going to jail had an impact on OTF, but like, why do you think it's been like so much shit just spiraling? Because you got to think, bro, bro, fed a lot of people.

Like, bro, it's like if I make it and I got my nephew, I got my brother and everybody depending on me. Yeah. If I'm, I got these ems, come on y'all, we over here. Something happened to me, he got to go back to the trenches. And it's dangerous out there. Because like damn, motherfahlers couldn't get up with you. Now they can finally get up with you.

Now they can finally touch you. And that's how that type of shit be happening like that. But you gotta think, bro, the whole OTIF family, they just, everybody's sad. It ain't more so music. Even with me, when I heard about the Shaila where I got turned off the music a little bit because it's sad, bro.

It's like, damn, what's been to happen with, bro? You feel me? So the motherfucker ain't go drop. Muffin' ain't even worried about going to the studio. It's just sad. bro. You be having a conversation, like, yo, we gotta keep this shit going though? Yeah, like at first I wasn't.

And then I, you know, nigga Co. Shout on my nigga, Col Killer. Co. Killer called me and just motivate me like a . Like, bro, bro, we gotta keep going, bro. Like, bro, bro, you gotta keep going. Like, even when I had cut the chain, I cut the chain, just to buy it on, because I want to change. He's like, bro, you got to chat.

You might as well rap. Just keep rapping, keep going. Like, you gotta put this shit on, bro. We got on the phone for like an hour. And he just turned the nick up. And I just started, like, working every sense. Because I do feel like all the opportunities smirk was given the nigger when he was out. It's like, damn, I just let him die because he's gone.

But he really was giving the motherfucker. So I was like, man, let me keep it lit. And maybe I can make something happen and be like, you know, some Drake and Louis Wayne type shit. You feel it? When Wayne with the Jill, Drake came, held it down. You held it down. You feel me? So it's like, I feel like, bro, I want to do that.

Because I really know the talks that I have, bro, even if I was our one-on-ones, nobody was around. It was just our shit. Like, bro, you got it. You just got to. You feel me? I'd just be going through my own shit, whether some street shit, some family shit, some money problems, whatever the fuck it is,

it always keep going. He always gave me that. So it's like, bro, I'm going to keep it lit. You feel me? Even though I don't got to talk to that nigga every day. I'm going to already know, like, I just already feel it. He won't somebody to keep this shit lit, bro. I mean, at the same time, he's trying to come home too, though.

You know what I mean? So at the same time, I'm saying, like, motherfuck ain't going to make no circus out of it at the same time because it ain't, it ain't no funny. It ain't nothing funny about it, though. Everybody's sad, bro. That was their brothers, and that was their brothers first. You feel me? So they knew them way longer to me, so I can only imagine how they feel.

So it's like, bro, sometimes that music shit don't be everything. Niggins don't be in their right mind. So it's just like, you know, it's a big-ass little message. Did you know Zoo or you were in Zoo? Hell yeah, Zoo, my brother, R.P. Zoo, hell yeah. Oh, where. So you know, Zoo, go to the rack. Zoo get me straight every time.

You feel, me? We come to Oakland, he's straight. Same shit. So how did you feel when you, when you, when you, you heard the news and you know the video leaked online of what happened to him what was your thoughts and where was you at when you heard the news back to like a motherfucker loosing another brother like it's just a familiar feeling that i hate no it ain't it's just like damn that shit you can't take back you feel me that's why you never post if you got somebody you love you never post to

hold your tongue bro never bite your tongue tell your brother what it is so that way you probably can save us but you know shit just be deep but so but zudan really shocked everybody because He's been, he like a big face in Chicago, so no one ever seen that for Zoo, you know what I'm saying? Cause you've been moving around for all these years. It's like, you know the backstory though? Because everybody was trying to say he was trying to fix his card. Do you know if any of that was true or?

I don't know, man. I just saw it on tape. Yeah. I don't know who or I don't know. I just saw it on tape, bro. But I don't know just from being in the streets for so long. I didn't saw everybody get it. Like I didn't saw the, the, the,

that don't deserve it, the motherfucker that that kind of deserve it, the motherfucker that, do deserve it. The biggest, the biggest, the hardest, toughest, nigga with the most bodies, the nigger with nobody. I don't saw everybody get the issue. That's why I respect everybody. You know, I hope they get that same respect back. You feel me? Even if I'm in a grocery store, if a nigga ain't that motherfucker, a white nigga or a Mexican or whatever, I don't just, you feel of me? I get everybody respect. You feel me? But if it's that, if it go there, then it's going to go there.

It's a challenge. It's a challenge. Somebody like, like, Bezu, like, people just looked at him as such a bad. badass who had just survived all these years in Chicago. And then when you look at how that situation actually went down, like he let his guard down for whatever, five minutes, 10 minutes in the parking lot. And that was enough.

Like that really lets you know, like anybody could get got if they end up in the right situation, you know? Yeah, a band like that since forever for gangsters. Yeah. I know motherfuckers who died with guns on them. Yeah. Those motherfuckers who died in shootouts who saw the shit come and shot, Nick died from a leg shot.

I hear people in interviews all the time, who will be like, yo, they're never going to get me because I'm always on point. It's like, there's a lot of ways that's not being on point. Them be the niggas who be losing. Like me, I feel like, I don't, I don't rap about that shit

because I don't want to wish that shit on me. You feel me? I don't want to put that energy on me, but I can, I'll be on it though. Like, you feel me? Even I tell myself every morning, that's a torture, but I wake up every day like, damn.

I can't, I got to make sure I be on point today because it can happen. And it's on my mind every day. But it ain't not one day go by. They ain't thinking about. So it just be like it make me be on point. You feel me? That's why I got there there.

I was catching like four pistol cases, bro. Like in a span of like two years, like back to back to back. I'm just catching a bitch because I don't know how to be without that motherfucker. You feel safe for like where you at now though? Like in Houston like you kind of let your guard down a little bit more versus you being. Yeah. Being at home, yeah. But it ain't all here or no.

It ain't just relax but you can't, you don't got to be like this. You feel me. gotta be in Oakland, you gotta be like this. Like you damn gotta see the shoot-out cover. Like I didn't saw it. Like this is gonna go down right here. Watch this y'all. And then they go down.

Cause I'm on it and I already know it's gonna happen. Like I could just, you just know it. You just feel like shit. You've been doing it for so long, bro. You just become like a vet. And that's probably how Zoo felt. You know what I mean? But at the same time, I feel like that too,

but it can still happen to me. You feel that's why it's best not to move so much. Or when you wanna do certain shit, if it's certain shit the motherfucker gonna do, you send the motherfucker gonna do it. Little shit like I ain't going to the store. I make my bitch, bitch, I even ask my bitch, I don't even pump the gas, bro.

Yeah. Cause I ain't trying to be seen, she'll pump it. Like, you know how some women be like, yeah, I was never ready to pump gas. Well, bitch, if you're my bitch, you're gonna pump the gas. Like, bitch, pump the gas. I gotta be safe.

I'm behind a tent, man. I'm gonna make sure we straight. If a nigga talk to you, do whatever you wanna do, but hurry to get back in the car, bitch, so we can take off. But it depends on motherfuckers, how they live in their life. That's how I live mine.

You feel me, but it can happen. It happened to the best of us, bro. Like, I don't saw a real gangsters die, bro. Like, even my brother, like, my brother John John, he died. Like, he was doing the most shit, bro. And for me to know seeing him dies, like, damn, if he can die, I know I can die. If I feel like I'm gangster, I know he had 10 times gangster to me.

So, shit, anybody can get it, bro. It can happen to anybody, bro. Sometimes some niggas die in shootouts. Some niggas die. Some niggas kill each other. Or my niggas, Drake. He had a nigger try to take his shame, and he killed the nigger took his shame.

but they both die. So it can happen anyway. Oh, they both shot each other at times like shit? Mm-hmm. Damn. That's crazy. He saw it coming,

but, man, that shit crazy. The street shit crazy. That's why the best thing to do is get out of it. That's why a nigga was. I can understand what 21 Savage would take

the streets. Like, I see what you saying, but you got to, you got to say it in the right way. You feel that? I'm feeling? That's far because it do be hell of bullshit going on.

You know what I mean? But. So you want to fuck the, The streets moving inside. No, hell, no. I ain't saying that, but I understand. I think I can understand where he's coming from. Let me see the two ways I feel like he's trying to see it, bro.

One way, it can be, Atlanta was so big. Everybody was hilly cool with each other, and they was the biggest, the biggest in the game. Atlanta was the maker of hip-hop. They were the biggest in the game. They was on top of everything. Everybody wanted to go to the A. That's just where it's at.

And they got all these rappers cool with everybody. So, you know, the niggie-win' allegations on all these niggas, and he can't talk to them, he can't talk to him, he can't talk to a thug, he can't talk to, it just all split up. So he's like, man, fuck the streets. I want to talk to my niggas. Because you kind of low-key want to accept what's going on.

But set niggas is snitcher. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. I know it is, but nigger felt like he's so rich now. Like, shit, nigga ain't. I mean, yeah, but in that same sentiment. I agree with that. I agree with that, but. He was the same thing on the phone trying to do the, like,

all right, we know a gunner, snitch but let's get this money side shit. Yeah. So it's like- And that shit comes back, bites you on the ass, bro. Yeah. So I had a nigger relationships with niggas in the streets, nigger that was fruitful, like, nigga, I had a nigger that was OT and we had, we

could have made so much money. You feel, I mean, we was making money, but when some paperwork came on in his name, it was bad, I had to cut them off. And I could have kept them on and kept the money coming, and I could have been up up ems. But at the same time, if I got little niggas under me, I got all my people under me and they see me accept the type of shit, then they had fine excuses. It's in their mind to accept it.

But for accepting, that nigga prone to snitch on your ass. Exactly, bro. Right? Exactly. That nigga got some shit. That's why the game, bro, is when you're in the streets, bro, it's rules and you're a buy-b-b-b-b-bom. If you don't want to buy-b bottom rules, then get out the fucking game.

What's the hardest part about being in the streets? Cutting off people you love. Cutting off people you love. And not snitching. I don't say that shit easy. Man, that shit hard as hell because you got to... Not snitching. Hell yeah, because, bro, you can tell and come home.

Yeah, now, I'll feel that. That's hilarious. You can tell them of my f***, man, we got you, you go, your ass grass. You can tell and come home, bro. But if you're really in the game and you've got some type of loyalty, some type of honor in this shit, bro,

then you would be like, damn, bro. It is what it is. So how you feel about they're saying this is, like, mad OTF niggis snitching on the case, like in the trial, they're saying that multiple niggas is when to take the trial and try to snitch on dirt. We don't know that shit.

I don't even know. Nobody really know. There's some shit that's got to come on when it's time for trail. That's why we're going to take it to the trail. They got to expose who tell it and all that type of shit. You never know when it comes to trail. When it comes to trial, you don't know.

I mean, that's just got to be a crazy position for you because it's like you don't want to jump the gun. You're hearing all these rumors, but you've got to just wait it out because you don't really know if there's any truth to it. It's like, even me, like, people, I have so many people come on this podcast try to tell me, baby, you're snitching. Me too. They just the same shit.

Never panned out. And nobody ever, like, apologizes or takes that shit back, you know? Yeah. We have no reason to think. think that he did though at this point you know so I don't and just knowing him I can never imagine it yeah it's just I'm not saying brick baby but you know a lot of people be telling you don't need black and white because you can you know some of who can just be informing you feel me you and never be on black and white you would never be you would you would you would die a stitch

but nobody never know so when you be seeing that they'd be saying that it's so many niggas in the o't that might be cooperating the shit that should don't make you want to fall back from certain niggas till you see how shit play out. Yeah, no, I'm like that in life, period. Like, even in my own, even, I've never been just, oh, I'm in the, uh, I'm link with the OTF niggas. I'm just telling my war stories, I'm exchanging stories. I'm going on, I'm just doing music.

OTF is really a label, you feel me? And that's that, but a lot of shit that'd be going on, I really don't be knowing. Like, I don't, I just talk to the people I talk to and that's that. What was your relationship with like with Didi, like, how close? That's my brother. That's my nigga. That's my brother.

What type of a nigga he was? So people who don't really know him. He's a funny, nigger. I was in the studio. Me and him had the last studio session before he went to jail. He was in the studio for like four hours, bro. And he went to jail next day? Yeah, he was, yeah, where was he at when he got picked up type of shit?

No, wait. I think at his house or something. Where was y'all at? Where was the studio session at? In Chicago. All right, so he probably got picked up in Chicago. Somewhere, yeah. Probably something like that.

Yeah. I just left that bitch. I just left that bitch, bro. It'd be making me think like, damn, if I would have stayed, what I would have got grabbed. Yeah. I'm gonna definitely would have been with him. So, yeah, it should be deep. Moving around Chicago and shit,

how do you make sure you straight moving around there? You're gonna be, you know, there'll be a lot of shit going on. Man, I look at Chicago like I look at Oakland. All right, better question. What's the difference between gang bang in Oakland and Chicago? Like, the difference is what you would say from what you see. Like street culture. I swear to God, bro, I don't see no difference.

But the accent, the way niggas talk. Like, they probably say, on 4-0 on BD on all that type of shit. Nix got switches and shit in Oakland? That's the thing? Man, we've been having switches since, nigga, 2009. The ones that you have to make,

you to put on your shit. Once you pull that trigger, the whole thing shoot out. You can't, it ain't no switch where you can, man, you put that thing and they put that motherfucker on there, that motherfucker shoot. As soon as you pull the triggers

go shoot the whole 30. Yeah. It ain't no switch. You can't, right, right, right, you that's going off. We've been playing with them hell long ago,

but, hell no, bro, shit. Just the way they talk. Yeah. Just the way they talk. You come on that shit, you might hear a nigga saying, niggas on Mamas, on Cetas,

on everything, all that, but you go out there. It's just the way people talk to slang. But L.A. is way different. I don't know if it's colors and shit now like motherfuckold have been tripping over colors, but for sure. It's still tripping over colors and shit.

Yeah, I mean, it's more complicated than that. You got bloods and cubs that get along and everything, but for sure, yeah. So when you say, it's way different, what you see to say is way different. Because you'd be mixing around. because I come around here where I remember a long time ago I had like a red shirt,

a nigga was stripping. I'm like, bro, what the, I ain't. No, I was in. I had another little thing. I was in jail, right? Yeah. I went, what's it called? What y'all got, the twin towers or something shit?

Or the federal building? No, I had no. The county, LA County. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah. But I was on the 9,000 flow. I was on the 9,000 flow, bro. You know how Oakland niggas talk. Like, we say blood, we say cugs, we say whatever.

So I made that motherfucker one day. I'm like, I'm like, oh, I'm like, yeah, blood. And the nigger said, bro, I couldn't over, I couldn't, uh, I heard you say something about blood, you know, it's a Crip door. I'm like, oh, no, I'm from Oakland, bro, that's how we talk.

He's like, well, bro, you can't say that shit in here, bro. I'm like, what, I'm like, what we chunking at? This is the first time I ever heard the word fade. And the wine front, we say about what we chunk him at? What, we get, what, what, what? He's like, bro, what you wanna fade? I'm like, yeah, what do we do that? What we fade at?

He's like, come on, we go do it in the back, cuz, come on. And we go to the back, And then we just start fighting. You feel with me? Then I beat his ass. Then there was another nigga came. Like, it was like 10 niggas trying to fight me.

I'm like, damn. Back phase because of that one. Man, I'm not how many nicks trying to fight? It was deep as hell, bro. How many back phase that made you run? I think I did like two. And then somebody called the COs and shit. I'm happy as hell.

You like, God. Damn, I'm windy. Like, I'm windy. They came. They looked at everybody knuckles. They looked at everybody knuckles. My hands were shaking like this. My shit was f*** up.

That's how they knew I was fighting. Did they give you time in between the fights, though? Like, or they like, you're like immediately. Yeah, I'm on them, cah. It's on me, cause, it's on me, car. I need that cah. It's kind of weirdly honorable that they don't, like, jump you. Yeah, yeah, no, for sure.

Because they for sure could be my ass. But I won't go on. That's what my main thing is, bro, I ain't going for none of that. Nigger ain't fin to tell me what I can't say, because I'm not a Crip. I'm not a blood. I'm from Oakland. This is how we talk.

Like we would say, like how we blake in, like we'd be like blood all day. We just say cubs. Like it just be like that. Nica say blood and cuss in the same sentence. I know to an L.A. nigga that's sound weird to see.

I mean, what the fuck? What? That's just how it is. You know Jalisa's? Yeah, I know Jalise's a little bit. Yeah.

Yeah, she's a little bitch for sure. Exactly. But it's awkward as shit. She was arguing with Munchy B who was like from Engwood family bloods and she's saying blood, blood and it's just awkward as because like for him to be called a blood

over and over and over about girl, like there's not a gangbanger, it's just like, it's so weird. That's how we talk out there. What she's from, Sack, huh? Yeah. Yeah. She might really be a blood, though, ain't she?

I don't think so. I don't think she's just, I think she's talk like that. Yeah, but yeah, but if you ain't, that's just how they talk, bro. Like, we do like, for real, bud, like, blood, like, blood, I don't know. That's how it is, bro. So you, you've been working on a documentary? Yeah, beneath the bottle.

Tell me about the documentary when it's coming out. And that shit, like, next summer. Probably this is a matter of fact. Because we have finish the shit, bro, and we lost the whole shit on the fucking high speed chase. We lost the whole shit on the hot speed chase, bro, in Atlanta. The hard draft? Yeah, the hard drive.

Oh, shit. Things be getting away on high speeds in Atlanta, though? In Chicago, they got to stop chasing you after a while. But Atlanta, they ain't got to start chasing me. Yeah, we get away. All my hot speeds will get away. Probably got caught in Vegas. Yeah.

I wish I had the footage on me. I show you all that shit. I was in Atlanta where you got. The Atlanta, we get away. But Vegas is different. They rich out there, bro. So they train. the nigga like they had pulled the

motherfucker over. I was in the lamb. I remember I just bought the Lambo. I took that bitch to Vegas and I got pulled over. We had a little shit on us. I'm like, man, we ain't stopping. It's over. We go on. We're going. I'm in a lamb. I'm trying to see what this bitch do. We get the we get away. I lead a yes. I go in the casino.

Like 20 minutes away, bro. I go in the casino. We're going to come and grab me out to casino at the crap table, bro. I'm my ass, man. How to y'all find me he's like bro this is Vegas we've tracked you from every camera on every street all our streets got cameras we just went from this camera to that camera he said bro if you would have went home we would have came and got you in the money because we're just going to follow every camera

yeah so Vegas ain't cool don't kick no high speeds in Vegas bro yeah they come to grab you for sure the more money there is in a city the more likely they're like really aggressively come after you and figure out yeah tax pair of money boy mm so you don't taking breaks from music and shit now like you back locked in yeah I'm back on it yeah no more breaks bro's all and nothing yeah it's all in nothing bro like my fuck got shit to prove my fuck got something to myself like I gotta complete this shit you know so hell yeah no more breaks that's why I'm moving that's why I'm at the fights I'm watching you fight mingling with you yeah you networking like this being trying to be able to fight but I was supposed to it looked like I was

gonna you got in the ring you fought you got the ring you fought you got the ring you You fuck. Yo, I'm in the market for a new opponent. They got to be a lot smaller than Jersey Love. That's my number one priority. You should fight. Who should he fight, Rima? We got to go back to the drum, boy.

I don't even know yet right now. I asked a rapper that I know. I was like, yo, you want to do this? And he was like, I'm going to be real. Like, it would be a really bad look for me. If I lost, I don't think my career could handle it. Who was? I don't want to say.

Man, who was? Who was? He's a rapper that you ain't really seen around for a few years. And he's like, man. He white or blood? Neither. In between. But I'm saying

Like I don't even know The way he responded to me I was like damn I felt bad for even asking Because I'm like yeah you right That is like a weird position For me to even put you in Because it's a fight that like

I probably Most people would probably think I would win Yeah So yeah like why would I You would win after your last fight Yeah exactly I know Well probably not a lot of people Would think I would win after the last fight

I thought you was gonna be like Brod think of my wife I'm trying to beat the brakes off his ass Yeah that didn't really Factor in too much I don't think Yeah White people would be

psych or I thought he was going to do some psycho shit. You know how white people would be. Like you hit their ass, they just go crazy. Like, you know? But after that fight, I'm more convinced than ever of like the genetic superiority of the black race. Yeah. No, I feel like just him being black had a lot to do with why he was able to.

You never seen a white guy that big. Yeah, we come from that. What's that shit in the slave days? That shit called. The Mendigo fights. Yeah, the mandingo fights his shit, bro. Well, fuck would be strong as here. Mexicans, they rough as hill, too, though.

They can take punches. Yeah. We tried to beat the Mexican ass. He was drunk as hell, bro. We could knock his ass off a shit, bro. For real, we could not get up. We was in Oakland, bro. He was talking crazy to my nigga.

He fired on my nigga. Boom, we just on his ass. This nigga was not going, though. Niggas was ready to shoot his ass. He probably drunk. His ass wasn't gone. Yeah, he was drunk. Yeah, he was drunk.

Yeah, that nigga ain't felt that to tomorrow. He was not for nothing, bro. We didn't broke this nigga. Pinky. He, the nigga that stumping his head. My brother over there are two feet stopping this nigga, this nigga, bouncing right back up.

Ain't let niggas go. You can put the gun to his head. He's like, do it, do it. I'm like, bro, this nigga crazy is here, we can leave this nigga love. See, that's what you say that? Because, like, there was a clip back in the day 2018 or whatever

where I was on live stream and a dude busted into our place and put a gun to my head and it ended up being fake. But then, like, we all were, like, beating the fuck out of them because we're like waiting for the cops to come. We don't want to let them sit there.

So we're all kicking them in the head and shit. Nick, I'm gonna fall. Well, we had to kick him so many times to knock him out. It was just like, it was kind of shocking. I'm like, this guy got a thicker skull than me because I feel like you give me a couple good kicks to the head. I'm done. It's over.

Hell yeah. I'm like, die. The nigga was fishing that shoe was over. In that boxing room, it was over. Oh, boy, took the Colin Kaepernan in 20 seconds. I was mad. I was like, man, you can't take the Colin Kaepernan in 20 seconds now. I wouldn't have kept gone if I knew that they were going to give me a hard time about paying me.

Because they did pay me, but for, like, it was. Because they were going to say, when you didn't fight back or something shit like that bro if you read the contract they would have had a pretty good argument to not pay me because it's like you gotta like

fight back you gotta like you can't just give up I'm like oh shit that sounds exactly like what happened you ain't hear me you ain't hear me I didn't hear nothing I'm like man I knocked that nigga out

I bet at that point you so you couldn't even hear shit I mean it was just so obvious to me that I was like I might as well just give up now well Lena was that you ain't look at her like you know how that shit on creed

I wasn't thinking about it I didn't see you He put that in a bitch. And he just started out. You got that guy coming to him. You can't think about anything else. Like, I couldn't, yeah. Like, everything else when I'm watching the footage

and I'm hearing people screaming by the ring, I'm like, oh, all right. Like, I missed all that. Yeah. Nah, it takes a lot of heart to even get in the ring, bro. So I respect that. Like, win or lose. I was always taught like, shit,

win or lose as long as you fight. So you fall, bro. You got in the ring, bro. I'm picking on my next fight. I always got to find somebody fat. I want to go at it with me. I ain't going against no more black Superman-type. Oh man, my boy says, oh shit.

So, oh, shit, who would you want to work with those music wise and shit? Because you've been checking them off all the big features and shit, like, with your dream feature. I want to go like total to toe with Jay-Z type of shit like I like the shit they'd be talking about. Yeah. You know, like I say, I ain't compromised, so I ain't really worried about nobody with no big ass buzz. I'm just talking crazy. Not even if you, not even buzz-wise, just like who you feel like your art relate to.

your art relate too and shit like who you feel like i want to do something with drake i'm gonna do something with uh jigger and i want to do something with sex free and that'll be hard gotta get sex with something she got the energy you ever talk to it she'd be out she'd be around and shit yep i just put uh i wrapped her i freest out her song she reposted it oh art so i'm like yeah we're trying to put that together right now we're working on something we're trying to put it together um okay so you got any moves coming up that we need to know about album december 4th and drop in. Yeah, end of December 4, man.

Go listen to that shit. Adam, can you listen to my music, bro? I listen to it. I should listen to it more, but, I mean, I watched, like, I sat there for a good half hour last night and watched a bunch of music videos. Bet, bet, bet. All your videos on 2020, though. I could stop rapping for a minute.

No, but all your videos, like, the first videos is, like, 2020. Yeah, that's what I started. And you deleted, all right, but I thought you've been rapping before that. Oh, you know, it's on another page. It's on another page. All right, because I'm like, man, in a way. Like, that's my real YouTube page. You had a different page or you're putting it on like fizzler or something.

I had a different, no, I had a different page. Yeah, oh, yeah, I put some shit on this one time ago. Oh, yeah. But now I had a different page, a upgang page. So I, uh. So all your old music probably over there. All my old music is going on there. Oh, that makes sense.

I was looking through the catalog. I'm like, this niggas started rapping like during the COVID. Yeah, I saw the wild shit on that old page. So if I want to see that old, bro, bro, that old wild shit. Tell them where to find it at, though, again. Yeah, that, uh, up game. Up game 100 Up game 100

Up game 100 Go to shit on YouTube That's all that wild shit But yeah though Speaking of wild shit too I want to say this too Like bro motherfuckers be Reaching out like trying to do

vlogs and shit But I'd be feeling Like you know how motherfuck They were doing them A little hood vlogs and shit They'd be going to the hood And I'd be like A lot of them

To be reaching out to me But I'd be thinking Like I'm way past that now Like they would have caught me Like 10 years ago Then I would have been that nigga Walking on a block I was gonna show you

where I got shot at. I could have showed you what we drilled something mad. I could have showed you where we went to jail like I could have showed you where I saw everybody died.

I could have did that. You feel it? But now it's like but I'm on different shit. You feel it? I'm motherfuckers buying property. Motherfugals buying a jury

taking care of their kids. Raising their kids is a different vibe now. So if motherfucker wanted to come vlog and that's what it's going to be about that's what we're going to see. That's what you go see

you're trying to show motherfuckers. Not tricking themselves off the streets because this shit cool, but this shit real tricky bro. How many rappers you've seen get tricked out the streets?

Off of music. Many. For sure, yeah. Don't be getting baited. Be accepting other beasts and wars and shit. Like, bro, it's a lot of shit that motherfuckers don't got to do that they choose to do. Even like I mentioned them already, but with J-Bo, it's like he had the world in his hands right there, and he just couldn't help himself driving around with guns and drugs.

Yeah. He's young, though. So he'll come from under that shit. But he got enough. Yeah, he got to come from under that shit. The time he's facing, he ain't going to be young anymore by the time he gets out if he actually goes in and does 10 years or whatever. No, yeah. Hopefully.

Hopefully he don't happen with it. He ain't go to come home. He just got to give back. Even motherfuckers were trying to do that. Because he was on tour, NBA young boy, motherfuckersers trying to pit us against each other. I don't even know, bro. He don't know me. But a nigga, I'm not, you can't bait me to be going out of him.

That's his business. Whatever he wants to do, he want to do, that's what he going to do. You feel? I'm going to do. You feel? do. I know, can nobody really say shit to me, bro? Yeah, no, for sure. And I ain't gonna just be having no problems with no nigga

because a nigga going on tour with this nigga and this nigga got a problem. That's like, that's hell of shit. That's reaching way too hard. Yeah, that's hell of shit. Because we don't even know if Jaybo had gone on the tour, we don't even know of him and young boy would have even been around each other because a lot of those people were on the tour. We never saw an iPhone clip of them hanging out with young boy. Like, young boy is a superstar.

He's in his own world, you know? That's a young boy. You're on his own t' own tour. I heard some shit too I heard hell of shit The show Alright 900 bro bro What you want to tell them to go

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