No Jumper - Bruh Bruh on Growing up in Oakland, Signing to Lil Durk, Financial Setbacks & More

Episode Date: February 2, 2023

Bruh Bruh talks to Sharp about ----- 00:00 Intro 0:05 Bruh Bruh talks about the work he put in before getting signed to OTF 2:05 Bruh Bruh on who he was before rap music and coming up in West Oakland 3:45 Bruh Bruh shares his experience with Lil Durk 6:00 Bruh Bruh talks about who brought him and Lil Durk together 9:45 Bruh Bruh talks about how Young Slo-Be's passing affected him 12:55 Bruh Bruh talks about how the feds are making groups seem like a gang after they start getting money 14:55 What it's like being from Oakland, but being signed to a Chicago-based label 17:25 Bruh Bruh says he never had a regular job and how “In Da Club” by 50 cent inspired him to start rapping 19:35 Bruh Bruh talks about being influenced by Messy Marv, Mac Dre, Lil Durk, and Lil Baby 21:50 Bruh Bruh on the time he met Mistah F.A.B. and explains how he sees rap music as a business and a way out 23:05 Bruh Bruh talks about the financial setbacks involved with being a rapper 27:35 How people will go to social media to post about beef rather than calling him directly 30:30 Bruh Bruh on his reaction when he got the call that he was being signed to OTF 35:00 The love he has for his fans and how personal issues make him delay on dropping new music 37:02 Bruh Bruh om finding his peace with his kids and in the studio ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Sharp Tank, no jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast. Yeah, for sure. In the world. In the world. In the universe. And today, I want to say you one of the newest members of OTF, am I?

If I'm not mistaken. Just sign on, man. We got brub-brough from OTF in the building today, ladies and gentlemen. How you feeling, church? Feeling good, bro. I didn't mean me. I've been trying to get up here.

Yeah, well, you're here now. Yeah, I'm here for sure. You know what I'm saying? Listen, homie, I like the up and coming. Like, I like that, like, and people that's getting a new wave because I feel like you're going to go somewhere. You're about to really going, about to blow, yeah. So I think it's good to be able to get you here now

before you try to charge me 20,000 later. No, that shit, it's the life. For sure, it's on the floor. Yeah, I didn't mean, listen, man, before we even dive into it, like, I did not mean to make you wait. Like, it wasn't even like that. It was just like, man, it was a lot of people. I'm running people in and out, in and out, in and out.

You know, we had a big-ass group. I'm like this, man, I'm looking at the time. I'm like, man, fuck, I got to get out. I know you waiting on me. I'm texting the publicist. I'm texting Laura. Like, Laura, is he here? Yeah, he's here.

Like, you said, bro, fast level. Like, you lit? I can wait an extra 30 minutes. I want the motherfucker to do it for me. You hear me? I know, for sure. I know how time worked. Motherfuckly, you need that extra time.

Brother, before we dive into OTF and you sign it with the label and being one of the newest, let's talk about, you know, your early days. Yeah, I've been doing music for a minute, bro. Like, before OTF, I was just working, like, just working from the ground up. Like, used to put my own video, I used to edit my own videos, all type of shit. I just kept going, like, more and more, more and more, more.

And then it's like, I thought I really had to get serious with this shit, like, man, I'm going to start putting money into the shit. So I start putting money into this shit. And I'm like, man, my dude, he's like, man, this song sounds like, this a good song. you could do something with this. And that's how I end up putting bro on it. You feel? And then we just really locked in, like, after that. That's how you went a little dirt locked in there.

So it's like I was grinding for hell long, like 10 years plus, you feel? But I never took music serious. I've been grinding for a minute, bro. I never took that shit serious. My next question to you, then, why even waste your time if you never took it serious? It was just past time. It was passion. Like, I need to do that shit.

Like, I'd be trying to give up all the time. I can't, you feel? It's like, God give. I can't. I can't not unwrap it, you feel me? So it's like, it's a gift under the tree. Like, it's a gift, like I just can't, you feel me? I gotta go, I gotta do that shit.

Like I need to wrap that shit, like, therapy for real, I gotta do that shit. Early days, and like, and that's dope, but like my look at it is like, your early days even before you start rapping, like who was Brebara before that? Berber was a little kid from a Jitz. Just a bad, like,

where are you, originally? Oakland. Westoka, yeah, Westloka, Cammo Village. You feel me? But I never thought about rapping. Like, I don't know what I was going to do. Like, I don't know. I was just shit.

But when I knew, like, I never liked sports. Like, I never played no sports, bro. Basketball, football, soccer, none of that shit. I never played none of that shit. Only thing that I was into, like, bad shit. But when, when bro, my brother gave me a microphone, he brought me a hole with the Pro 2 set, it was over.

Like, damn, this is what I meant to do right here. So, like, how motherfuckers watch sports, they get, like, amped up, and shit. I see a music video. I'm like, ooh, that's, I need to be, that's me right there. I was never watching TV. Like, man, I wanted to be like the ballplayers. I was watching cash money. Like, I'm going to be the next

little Wayne, you feel me, or the next baby and BG and juvenile. Like, that was my passion. Like, I knew that's what I was here to do. So music, so now just I'm just growing, you feel me? And the music growing with me. You hooking up with

little Dirk, what was that experience like for you, you know, coming to somebody because he's very mainstream. His music is everywhere. You know, OTF is now a, it's a brand. You know what I'm saying? Like, what was your experiences

of like first even meeting him, like, shaking hands? I really was shocked, because like you say, he motherfuckers mainstream, so I'm thinking he fend to be acting like mainstream, but when I met him, I think he's a nigga from my hood or something. You feel, me? And he just, he's inspirational.

You feel it for a person to come up from the same slums I'll come from, in that same environment and to really be mainstream, that's a plus, and to still carry yourself a certain way. You know? You know how people would be in these streets, but you've got to carry yourself a certain way, and he really liked that, so it's like, damn,

I can really rock with bro, you feel? Speaking of carrying yourself in the streets, how did the name Brubra come about? Just, that's like some shit we used to say in Oakland. Everything was Burba, Berber, this, berber that, you feel, and then, like, from my era, like, 06, like, when I first jumped off the porch,

I had like hell of friends. We used to be saying Berber, Berber, this, over. That's my hair. Yeah, so Berber this, berber, that, you feel? So now it's like, everybody from my childhood, they did. So it's like, damn, that Burba shit just keep. Every time I say Burba, it just remind me of my friends, you feel, like the ones that ain't here no more.

So I just be like, I'mma keep that name, you feel. Even though that word got old, I'mma still keep that name because it's just, it's something special to me and then it represents the Bay. I was gonna ask you, because I'm like, do you feel like, you know, that represent that that piece of what you're trying to do is still is representing Oakland yeah for sure for sure it's representing Oakland for sure that's my life as a motherfucker man yeah for sure now I never

changed my name a lot of motherfuckers try to man change it to it change to young me do this do that I'm like no bro I'm gonna keep this motherfuckers were saying like man that shit weak or that shit oh bro you got to come something new I'm like no I'm gonna bring it back just like motherfuckers wear in the 80s motherfucker used to be wearing tight clothes you feel me then they got to be two thousand motherfuckers wearing four X's and three X's, you feel me, now shit came back to tight clothes, you feel? It's just transit, you feel? That's just

me. So, motherfucker can't make me be something. You feel? I'm gonna be it already. I was born like this. Yeah. You feel like me? If I don't like it, if I don't like, I'm gonna make you like it. So the introduction with you and Dirk, you say you just met him like, just like a real nigga would. Yeah. Just off

the strength. Yeah. Where did y'all run into each other at? No, we had to put a, I had to put them on the song. Then he just, the nigger already had did the song. I sent him a song. I had my man like, bro, we go put Dirk on the song. He's like, he's like, I'm gonna put Durk on the song. I'm like, come on, let's do it. Sure, that was a pretty ticket. Yeah, for sure. We put him on the song. And then the nigga did it like that.

Before we even gave him, he did it. He pulled up. He pulled it. He like, he pulled it. He's like, bro, the song already recorded. I'm like, I'm in Houston right now. Let's shoot. He's like, I'm on, I'm, after the show, I'm gonna pull up on you. I was way in Oakland. I got to pack my clothes up, dick. They hopped on a plane, I was in the H. That's why the song called Cortina Houston. I didn't even have a name for the song yet. I named it when I got out there

because it was doing the corona shit. What was that like being a, you know, from Oakland and naming it like pretty much some Houston shit. You know what I'm saying? I feel it was a good idea because a lot of motherfuckers from Houston be here. Like, bro, you put on for the sea, bro, good looking. For sure, Houston.

Like, just a little normal shit. You feel? I think that was smart, though. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure. It's kind of clever what you did is it's like you're involved in another city. Yeah, for sure.

I don't really hear too many rappers trying to do that. They kind of like, you know, they stand for their own city. I interview, you know, FOD, people like that, man, they're from Oakland, man, they true to they kind. You know what I'm saying? Like they, they do they thank, you know, but they mainly represent and do shit within their boundaries. You know what I'm saying?

Who they are. To hear somebody say, hey, man, like, you know, I'm trying to fuck with other cities. Like, I'm trying to get other cities involved is dope, man. I think that's detrimental to anybody's career. Yeah, I feel like that's like a trend I can say, you know. Yeah. Especially people from Oakland, just be, like you say, motherfuckers be about Oakland, Oakland, Oakland.

That's why the Oakland sound never really leave, you feel me. But if the motherfucker spread this shit, you're like, man, who was that from Oakland? You feel me? That's shouting out Houston. That's shouting out New Orleans. That's shouting out Miami. That's me, you feel? So when I come, there's love, that motherfucker tapping in.

Let's do something, let's do something. And that shit just grow, you feel? I might go to a city. I might have one of my niggas. Like Cash Click, Bull, shout out, Cash Click Bug. I might have him with me. He's from the Bay. I'm gonna take him to Miami do a song.

We might do some shit with Cardack Black, you feel. But I got here with me. Now he's like, damn, who was that? That's Bull, you feel? Then y'all get together, you feel. But that's how I be trying to do shit, like, make shit bigger. Bro, bro, did you go to school?

Did you graduate? Yeah, I dropped out at 12th in 12th grade. Man, right. Right before. Yeah. It got too hectic. Like, school for me, I never liked to school. I wouldn't even go back.

Like, I never liked the school, but I was doing that shit because my daddy had died. So I'm gonna finish this shit. So I ended up moving, finishing school, trying to finish school. But shit got hectares at school. Like, he got to the point of the motherfucker, I take guns to school. You in Oakland at that time, yeah. Most definitely, I mean, it's sad, but yes, it's very true. Yeah, so I'm like, but now I had moved to SAC.

I was fucking up in. Sacks fucked up too. Yeah, I was, I was fucking up. Like he moved to something better. Yeah, same shit. Moved on down to Sacramento. You know better on life like You're still in the shit, nigga

Shout on sec, man. Yeah, shout out fucking Sacramento, man, shit, man. My boy, uh, man, young Sloat. Yeah. From around there, man, my dude, man, rest and peace, man. You know what I'm saying? But I'm saying that whole area, man. You know what I'm saying?

He'd be around there, you know what I'm saying? So that whole little area from Stockton to Sacramento, that's their whole little mixture over there. I mean, like they, they, they got a couple cities. No, for sure. You know? Or peace love, too. RIP Sloby, man, for real, man.

How'd that make you feel, man? Somebody that's, you know what I'm saying? He was really moving around here. He was on his way. I was supposed to do something with both too. I took too long. He's like, bro, send it, send it. I'm like, I'm going to send it.

I'm just moving around a little much. And that shit just happened. And that shit hit me like, damn. That's why now when artists be tapping in, I try to knock their shit off fast because I'd rather work with somebody then after I'd be like, damn, I knew I would have sent that. I wish I would have sent that shit.

And once it's over, it's old. You ain't going to never hear that. You feel? That's like your legacy. You feel me? So all his music got to still listen to that shit. That's the last album. I'm just tired of like, man, I'm just tired of losing our rappers.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I really am. You know, especially some of the ones that try to stay. Like you actually got a chance to go and jump out to a different world, you know, as of a lot of people that are rapping from Northern California, Southern California, they don't really get, like, that's their sight. Yeah.

This is it. You know what I'm saying? Like, if we don't make it from here, there's nowhere to go too many ops. Niggas that, you know what I'm saying? They probably would want to fuck with. That's the op. They can't go fuck with them.

And it'd probably be one of the best money moves, but they can't do it because of where they're from. Yeah. It just, I think it just be a lot. I think that we need to just, we need to get a grasp on what's really going on. And like, let's really push our rappers. I say it all the time.

I get tired of us not supporting each other down here. You know what I'm saying? That's what I think drives people like you, brother, to go find it. other places. For sure, for sure. Right? Am I right or am I wrong? You know what I'm saying? Like, they can't really knock you, bro. Like to say like, oh, well, brother, I didn't stay.

What's he supposed to do? Niggas be Haiti. For sure. For sure. How have you, how's that been for you? Like, have you received a lot of love from back home for what you're doing and you stepping out and even going and signing to OTF? Or are you, you know, I'm saying? Niggas feel like, you know, you kind of was just, like kind of said, fuck them.

I feel like. Talk to me, too. Like in the streets in Oakland, my name already solidified. Like, I'm like an outcast already anyway. Like before the music. So it's like a lot of motherfuckers I respect my decisions already just from in the streets period. You feel me?

So when they came to the music, it's like, shit, what niggas gonna say? Niggas can't say shit to me. But it just be so wishy-wise she, it just be like, man. But the city be giving me love for sure. But I feel like, I feel like. Are you worried when you're back home now that you got.

I just did a video. I just did a video there last week. As soon as I got out there, the police pulled up like that. Like, you feel me? Do you feel like that may come from some of the affiliations of being like now that you didn't sign your OTF and OTF being a big name?

And people knowing who that is, I'm sure the police know who that is. It just feels like that I don't be around. Like, I'm never in Oakland like that, no more. You feel like I used to? So it's like, when I come, like we're pulling up Lambos, Fives, we bring a hell of money y'all.

I'm bringing hell of people out like it's lit so it's like motherfucker might be intimidated you feel me and sparing off and yeah yeah what's calling them out here right now and that's when they come like that we gotta get up out of there you feel that's only last for like two minutes let's kick game I want to level with you here like let's really kick some game about some things like and what I've seen is I feel like niggas could stay getting money you can get bread bro and there be no problems in your life as soon as you put a name to it a label to it like something that makes it stand as a whole yeah I feel like that's when the other

foot comes crashing down now they're looking at you as an organization now it's a group and it might just be one motherfucker just really getting money for real you know what I'm saying it don't even be a whole bunch of motherfuckers but just because there's a name and people are kicking it together now they want to sit there and try to profile and it could just be a really a record label a rap group it could be a family turn that shit to a game for sure it's got to be crazy man for you like like I said I just didn't know if you had any struggles like going back home you know what I'm saying like especially signing to some not saying that OTF is off brand that's not what I'm saying right but you being from Oakland that's very off branded niggas that are from Oakland yeah you know what

I'm saying for you to go inside yeah you know what I'm saying how's that out how's that been working out for you everybody kind of accepted like you'm saying or you feel like there's been some wrinkled noses I feel like majority of it accepted like they like because I feel like even my cameraman like bird like I didn't even know this nigga had O TETT on his arm, you feel. I bring him, I aspire him. He's like, damn, bro, like, you really got it. Like, we was with Durkan him yesterday.

Like, damn, bro, you got us around these niggas, bro, this shit is inspiration. You feel me? Every time I post him on Instagram, it be the little kids that's not even in the streets, you feel me, like little kids are just looking up to superstars or motherfuckers that want to make it. So when they see me, stand next to this person, they'd be like, I love you, bro, bro, like, I want to be like such and such. Like, keep going. Like, I want to be just like.

Well, I'm looking at it, like, in a sense it clashes cultures because you know OTF to me is those are more if I'm not mistaken Chicago baked that's more

and I love Chicago man I've been stayed in Chicago I've been through the wild hunts I'd have been through some places through there man Chicago's very real because there when Capriene Greens was still up before they tore them down you know what I'm saying

so I love the culture but then I think about Oakland too nigga it's got culture yeah for sure a lot of culture and it's very strong. It's strong just like Chicago. So I just feel like it's almost

like a culture clash, almost in a sense because they're so different. For you to be from one side and going over pretty much to another one, just in the music sense. It's not saying you've left. It's not saying that you're not from Oakland. You don't stand for Oakland, but it's

like what it may look like to people. And I think maybe you can clarify that or what that may be. You know what I'm saying? From you just being fucking like, man, I'm from Oakland, but I'm signed to a Chicago-based joint. Right. It just be like, I don't know.

It's different, bro. That's different, it's got to be different for you, man. But it'd be like, I don't know, bro, I just, I just, everywhere I go I fit in, you know? Like, where I go, I just fit in. Like, I can go to Chicago and fit it. I can go to Detroit and fit in. You feel it, like, even in Oakland, it'd be like,

as far as like, doing songs and people, Yeah, that's tricky because the beats do be different, like the beats and the shit that motherfuckers talk about. You know, our culture from Oakland is pimping. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. Justin the bitch in the rain, 3-0-4s, bitch.

You feel? Yeah, yeah. Little shit like this. And when you come to Chicago, it's more like, when I go to the record, it's more about drilling. You feel me, drill music. Yeah. Like, I'm like, like, I say, like, bro,

I got all that shit in me. Like, from a drill shit to pimps shit to all that shit, it's like, shit. I just hit me so I can go to Detroit and get some money. You feel? Like, them niggas, fuck with all the type of shit. I can go out there and be around some play-ass niggas. Then if I go back home, I might be pimping.

You feel me? If I go broke, I might go to Oakland and the pimp. You feel me? Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly.

If I go to Oakland. If I go back to the O, I might be pimper. You're just saying if you get fucked up tomorrow. If I get fucked up. If you get fucked up tomorrow, you don't got no more bread. I got them. Nobody. You ain't got to be back there pulling your drawstrings.

Like, no. No. Hey, I get it. You're just saying if you get fucked up, yeah. Yeah. Nigga, you're gonna make a way out of that way. Right now I'm doing music. I'm getting paid off music.

You ever had, if you ever had a job? No, I never had a job. I never had a job. I never had a job. I want to, somebody tried to offer me a job. I turned to them. So music's the only, like to you is the only thing for you. Yeah.

In fashion, I probably want to get in fashion and shit, like making clothes and all that. Yeah. That's live right there though, church Because you know I do like people that try to do something like Rap ain't forever It's not forever bro

And the thing it might not I'm sure And I'm not trying to speak for Little Dirk per se But like I'm sure he gets tired of that shit bro Yeah He just want to get his money and just get on Yeah

You know what I'm saying? He enjoys that people love his music You know what I'm saying But overall like I don't think you always Want to get caught in the spotlight And I don't think you would either And you just want to get your bag man And produce good great music Mm-hmm. For sure.

How old were you in? You knew, like, man, I think I might just, I should start rapping. 14. First song you remember. Freestyle, even. I got to get that. In the club. Remember that inner club?

Yeah. I'm like, this bitch going crazy. You got the CD, then the beat playing for hell alone. I'm rapping to that motherfucker at the end. I write quick eight boards on that motherfucker. Did you find, as you were starting, did you find any struggles with trying to get it going

like even with studio time and things like that you got to go through the right studios you had to learn how to write songs you got to learn what bars was you got to learn sometimes you might be in a good studio to engineer the other week

you got to just you gotta stop getting on YouTube you got to buy real beats fucker real producers all that type of shit was there anybody that you felt like took a liking to you and they kind of looked out for you

for certain things like even if it is studio time or maybe a couple beats you might have a producer that make beats and be like man just take these Cubs. Cubs. Yeah, Cubs. Shout out Cubs, Scott, man. You know what's up, man.

And my nigga, uh, this nigga from, uh. Man, what that's nigga from? He's from somewhere like UK or something. His name ends. Shout out of N's too. He'd be throwing me some shit, like, just rap to him. Who's your, who is your, um... Main producer?

No. Who is your music influences? Who's influenced you? Like, who's the main... Who are people that you look up to right now in the music game that you feel like you're kind of gunning for? Like not gunning for them but just like to be at that position like who you look up to man? Who's some of your favorite rappers? A little Durkin baby.

A little baby. But from the bay like love and music, messy more. Messy Moore like even to this day I do a song I pick if if the world blew up bro right now in a month of Man, what was the bay? Like, all the need is a messy morib city. Let's go describe everything. Motherfuck is like, that's some real West Coast, native gritty shit right there.

It's a messy morve. So it's a messy more of yuck mouth. You know what I'm saying? Jacker, myrugers, three-time crazy. Dre? Dre. Dre? Man, come on.

You know what I like Dre bro? What? Because Mess, he had the city like, he had the city going crazy, but he had a dart. On some gangts and shit, it was like a black clap. But when Mac Dre came, he brought, He brought the son now. He bought the bitches off.

He bought the pills out. He bought the having fun. And it was real gangster, but they was real gangsters having fun. Messy Marr from them, they just had us like black cuddies. You feel, me? He's glocks, black cuddies. It's just, pain. He's just spots rolling.

Feds kicking down on those, that type of shit. But when Messi Maura came, it's like, no, I'm gonna pull this cougar out, nigga, I'm gonna pull this range out. If you put candy on this motherfucker, I'm gonna bring the holes out. You know who was dope to? And I feel like he had a lot of influence down that way. that way. If I'm not mistaken, Mr. Fav.

Yeah, Mr. Fav. Mr. Fav. Like, just Mr. Fav. I was talking Mr. Fav yesterday. The influence that he got down there as a person. Like, that nigga don't even have to rep. Like, just the people fuck with him in his city, nigga.

It's not no... Mr. Fav, man, you wanted them dudes. Yeah, I just left... I just did a video of Dope Bear. The dopeer is, like, last week. Yeah. Shout out dope. Shout out Dopeer.

Shout out Mr. Fab. Yeah. Mr. Fav. Fav of you... We couldn't talk about. I feel like they'd be mad. I just feel like they'd be mad. Like, bro, like, what y'all niggas really talking about? You know what I'm saying?

So it's like, like Mr. Fab, yeah, he wanted them dudes, man. For real. That's my dog. Shout out, Mr. Fab, man. How you meet him? Through my brother. I just met a nigga like last week.

I banned new of them, like, but my brother, like, man, we were doing a video. I told you. We went to my hood, then they called on us. Then we were just riding around. He's like, come on, we took dope here, you feel? And we pulled up, and then it was like, the respect was there. Like, we already knew each other, you feel me?

Like, we ain't never saw each other, but once we got in our present, in each other present, we just, like, felt like we knew each other. He was giving me game about shit, laceing me on hell of shit, you feel? About the music, all the shit. I fuck with Mr. Fab, be a real nigga. Do you see rap as a business or a way out? Both. Delaborate for me a little bit.

Like, it's a way out because it'll keep you busy. Like, like I said, I don't like doing shit besides music. So it's like I can be stuck in the studio working all day. Like, I love that shit. I'll be in that motherfucker all day. You feel me? And if I can get paid off of it, then it's business. You feel me?

It's like I'm passionate about that shit. Have you had any, like, any legal setbacks? No. They may have kept you, like, from, you know what I'm saying? Like, just may have set you back from, doing music for a while. You're like, damn, I got a kind of slow roll right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Legally, and what I mean by that is, like, just financial setbacks, just things where people promise you shit and didn't fall through them. This shit take a lot of money. I'm going to tell you all that right now. This shit takes a lot of money. If you're trying to aim high, you feel me?

Like, if you really trying to aim out, that shit take money. But if you just, like, no disrespect to this, I fuck with this, but a lot of motherfuckers in the bank just fuck with this. Like, you've got to turn up. If you're trying to get the world to see your shit.

The Thistler is only based in the Bay Area. You feel? Yeah. And then some of that shit might be in Seattle and all that shit, probably up here, but that shit ain't going in New York and all that shit. They ain't watching that shit. So you're saying to the viewers that it's expensive to rap. It's expensive.

Hell yeah. It really does cost. It really does cost. It really does. Some motherfuckers get lucky. Don't get me wrong. Some motherfuckers get lucky. Some motherfuckers know people.

Some people got OGs that no hell of people in the music industry. You feel me? I don't know not. One person in my life that knew about music or that knew a motherfucker that I was connected to something. I did all this shit myself. I've asked this question to a couple of other rappers before. I think I asked it to a dude that I did.

It's one of my homies actually, King Yowdy. He out of Vegas. He rap. He actually assigned with MMG Rick Ross in them. Are you talking about the ball head, dude? Yeah. So you know what I'm talking about? Like, okay, so that's my partner.

Like I asked him, I've only asked a few people, so I want to ask you. And I really want to know how much do you? do you feel like it takes to actually get a song out there? Like how much money, how much motion do you have to put behind that? It depends on like... One song. Just to really, I'm talking about really, let's say a Fettywap type ordeal where he did that

trap queen and it was just that song. I say like 300 because you have to pay for radio and then you go have to do all your ads. Then you go have to do all your social media. platforms like you gotta pay for all that shit to keep that shit in rotation you feel me you gotta record recording content is free like you can record that yourself just record that shit

and send that shit to all the sites you feel if it's good enough there's a lot of sites start picking that shit up on their own you feel me but like I said a cool 300 what bro said I think he said about a quarter yeah yeah the radio costs like a hundred yeah he said

about a quarter billion he said just to even get like one song like I'm talking about like getting really one song in fucking rotation. Like, really getting it pushing. That's why I don't understand. Like, Fettywap, like, maybe that was his plan. He was like, I only got enough money. I don't got enough money to push.

And it's not that he didn't have money, but why break yourself? You know what I'm saying? Like, I only got enough money to push this one single. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? This is all I got right here, nigga. This is we're going to push the shit everywhere and the shit bloop. Yeah, for sure.

Do you feel like you have, do you feel like there's a song that you have, like, that you really, like, put your home? like this is the one I want people to hear on that EO. Yeah, I feel like this tape, like, end of December 3, EOD 3, I feel like this the one. I'm gonna say it like on that EOD. How do you feel about that one? Like, this is the one.

Like, this is the third one, so I had one and two. But I feel like the first one was just like I was going through something. You feel like? What was you going through church? Talk to me. We're in the Sharp Tank, man. This is what I do. I lost my brother.

I'm a therapist. I'm an interview where I do. So I lost my brother. brother on part one, that shit was like revengeful, you know? So if you go back to hear that one, you were here a whole lot of shoot them up, bang, bang type of shit, you feel, me? Then on the second one. On the second one?

On the second one, it was more so like, I'm getting out of that shit. And then on the third one, it's more like, it's like I'm grown, like, I want to tell people out of their business. Like, instead of just shoot them up bang, bang, you can ask the question. At first, the first one, it was no questions asked. Go crazy. Fuck it. Right around. And the second one, same way. But the third one is more like, man, if it's something that can be squash, squash, if it ain't no blood, shit,

or if it can be talked, if it could be a phone call, you feel? Talk that shit out, fix that shit like some bosses. But if it can't, you can't, but try if you could, you feel me? And that's what I feel like I brought to this one. Like, it's grown. Like, it's more boss. And I don't mean to, like, veer off because I want to still stay on the album. but like don't you feel like social media plays a big part in that like of niggas beef and like how niggas kind of interact with each other

and talk shit to each other versus like you say like I just want us to talk like you see we can talk like men but that don't never happen because the media excuse me the internet gets in the way yeah sure and I feel like that's true too but I feel like a lot of niggas take it to the internet like you can a nigga can have a nigger number and won't call because it's pride. He had taken straight to IG. You feel it me? He'll take it straight to IG fast.

When you got the nigger number in your phone, you're doing the same fucking finger motions you could do to get to his number, then to go on Instagram and make a post. Why do you think that is, especially as being a rapper today. Like, and, you know, I'm sure it comes with controversy. So how do you feel about that?

Like, when a nigg could have just, like, really reached out to you, bro, like, is it fucking irritating as fuck and it make you want to holl at him, or do you just ignore it? Yeah, me, like. I don't know, I should just be irritated. Because it'd be like, I feel like, like you say, it's different cultures now.

Like, now at first it was like, our culture was sticking with our culture. Like, LA, it's like the gang band culture. Oakland was like, it's not no gangs in Oakland like that. It's just real blocks. Clicks and blocks. Yeah, you feel me? It's different for sure.

Niggas machining on their block. If anything, you go over there, niggas got that bit sold up and it's getting money. If one nigga fuck up. Oh my mama, it's money clicks. Yeah, you feel me? So it's like, yeah.

That shit makes me with all these extra cities now it's like, this niggas over here probably don't rock like that, you feel? But these niggas willing to talk, you feel it? But I don't know, bro. It would just be mixed to all, like you say, cultures class. There ain't no OGs, it's

like motherfuckers just following. Ain't nobody leading. Everybody following. So if a motherfucker's see, this famous motherfucker doing some, it might be some a famous nigga might do some lame as shit and everybody will follow this nigga on Instagram. Because niggas on Instagram ain't really from the streets anyway.

But they think it's cool because this niggas sing from the streets, but he really a lamb. He probably couldn't even stand in this room with me and you. Like when we lead this interview with me and you chop up in the hallway, he can't even come talk to us because he ain't really liked it. You feel me? But these niggas on Instagram, they'd be like, man, he wanted them, he wanted him, but he really ain't. So it'd just be like, you just got to know.

Who's been making all your beats? Cub. I was going to bring back up Cub. I didn't know if Cub Scout like him saying, at his hands 100% in, but. Yeah. Dude, that's crazy. Or helped you even put him out on a platform.

Who's helped you put your music out on the platform? I was fucking with Ghazi, Empire. It was helping me all that first. Like, just helped me, like, just our distribution and all that. I'm really curious in how Dirk noticed you. Like, what was it that, like, gotten it? Like, it could have just been a handshake. It was something that he had there seemed.

Yeah, like I said, just talks. Like, shit, me and you can go in the hallway, we go click. You and him go in the hallway, you all go click. Me and him going to the hallway, we go click. It's just conversation, you feel? Like, man, I can fuck with that. You know how this shit be, bro. Yeah.

Niggas don't be who they say they be. So you can see that shit. You can smell that shit. Right. You feel me? So it's like, man, this isn't right. We're going to do this song, and that's that. You feel me?

But it just be like, I think the motherfucker took a liking to my style of music. What were you doing the day that you got to call? You get the call like, hey, man. There I go. That's shit. We're gone. We're going to go out there. We're going to shoot this bitch tonight.

I bought everybody clothes. I done that spent down there. 40,000 on everybody's outfits. You feel it? Everybody feeling good in this bitch. Come on. We turned up. You feel it?

I flew everybody out. All the shit. So it was like, it was cool. I took everybody from the trenches to Houston. They was loving that shit. For sure. And I brought hell of other hoods. Hell of other cities.

Like, I fuck with people in Flint. Shout off Flint. I fuck with Knicks in Flint. Flint. Flint, Michigan. Yeah, that nigga from Flynn right there That's my dog Yeah, man

Shout out to you, man We're in the building, man We're rocking We're getting this one done Getting it done the right way, man For bro, bro, like, Would you,

Is OTF your drive to this Like, of keeping you pushing Or if you did end up having to leave OTF, would you still keep mashing? Yeah, I'll keep, man, I feel like You get what I'm saying? Like, is that your main drive? Like, is this because being from there

Or is this something that you, I'm gonna do it regardless? I'm gonna do a regardist on some Drake shit. I had Drake fuck with Ed Wayne. Yeah. Some shit like that, even if I get big, you feel it, just bigger. It's gonna always be that because he the one that gave me that back to that. So I could say, yeah, he gave me the platform too.

Like, bro, side of it. Like, he really, like, motivated Nick. Like, I was in the studio, I let him hear some music yesterday. You feel me? He was just telling me, like, bro, y'all made your problem is just, you don't stay in the studio enough. You got to drop, you feel? Like, just keep staying in the studio.

He'd be like a mentor type of shit, you feel me? So it's like that's type of shit I appreciate like you feel like like loyalty like loyalty type of shit like we go we go make this happen for work forever That's how I'm coming Bro bro how do you know when people really fuck with you versus they're just fucking with you because you fuck with dirt like kind of like doing it for favor It's dip you right I don't know I can't tell now it's a little different at first I could tell What fuckers will pull it up? I thought that was a good question like for you like you tell like the difference like between them like you'm saying like this person really fucks me because they fuck with me versus I can't really tell from the new people from the old people to be like motherfuckers that I used to want to do shit with now they come in like this at first I was

asking motherfuckers before this situation was going on motherfucker was putting a thing on the backburner you feel me I'm like damn but now when the shit came motherfuckers what's your number what's your number bro come on let's do it man your bitch ass one where can we find EOD 3 all platforms one and two right yeah one and two right yeah one and two right one and two all platforms and EOD3 coming out, December 30th. Right before the new year. Right before the new years. That's gonna be live.

You know, I'm gonna be one of the first downlofers. I gotta hear it, homie. For real. For my, one of my last questions, homie is, what can we expect of brother for the next five years? That's very detrimental to me. Five years can change. It can be a lot for somebody, especially an artist.

You know what I'm saying? Like, what do you, what can we expect from Brubra, newest OTF member. What can we expect from him in the next five years? Consistency. And not to let my fans down. Keep dropping his music. Like my foot on the gas.

The whole next five years, my foot on the gas. Like, ain't no stopping. Like, ain't no breaks. I don't get fucking. What happened? I'm just turn up. No matter what I'm going through, I'm just work through it. Because I got people that really want the music.

The motherfuckers be in my DMs now. Like fans be in my DMs, like, damn, boy, you ain't dropped no music. I got hell of DMs, bro, like drop, drop, drop, drop. So you're like, damn. And I felt bad because I waited all the way to December to drop, you feel me? But that's like some shit that's going to happen every end of, every December. You feel me, I'm going to drop that bitch every December.

You feel, another question for you. Do you feel indebted to your fans almost? Like your own? Yeah, for sure, definitely. I own for sure. Because they were supporting. I got them going. Then I just left.

You feel every? That's like a nigga on the hoop court. You're bawling. You're going crazy. You turn it up. And then you just walk off and just bounce. You feel him? You just bounce.

Like, what the fuck he go? What the fuck that man? Where did you go? Just going through regular life shit. Like just regular shit, bro. Come on, man. You're not going to, you're not going to, you know. Ain't no regular shit that just made you stop doing music.

Streets. sometimes money problems sometimes like seeing my kids I be gone for hell alone I'm like damn I gotta get back that's what I'm saying this time I gotta work through that shit you feel me like that shit make a nigga stronger

and if I gotta go do music so I probably can bring my kids with me to do certain shit you feel me but it'd be so dangerous outside I'd be like man I don't even like rhyme with my kids you feel me like oh I don't take them do something we drive an hour away to go to the movie

So it's like it'd be dangerous, so it just be like, I try to keep them safe type shit, you feel me? It's gotta be crazy, I mean, for you, because it's like... And then I'd be forgetting who I'd be sometimes, like... You can do that. It's easy to do that sometimes. Yeah, for sure. 50 niggas would be like, I'm like, damn, fuck these niggas look like, man,

look, we'll see what they are. Niggas would be like, man, you brerber. I'm like, oh yeah, I forgot, I read. Yeah, yeah, forget. Don't do that shit. Yeah, but you can forget because sometimes you really do just try to live There's got to be a point for a rapper, anybody that's a high list, celebrity,

has any type of profile. You gotta want to live regular sometimes, man. Like, it's got to be an on and an off switch like to where you just shut out from the world. You know what I'm saying? So where do you find that at? Like, where do you, okay, I'm gonna ask this to you, bro, and we'll get up out of it.

Like, where do you find your piece? With my kids and in the studio. That's it right there for sure. Because they don't want nothing from you. They just want you to be there. Like, they don't want no money. Like, they just want you to be there, bro. And they don't judge you.

You feel, you. Like, you ain't got to have no money. You ain't got to have nothing. Just chilling. You're just, like, vibing. And they're telling you, they love you. They're kissing you. They ain't kissing you.

And nothing they're saying for them to get something out of you. It's just natural. It's just real love. Like, you can feel it when they squeeze you. You feel it. hug you and all the little shit like there. This was real, like, and that's what keeping me, like, pushing and keep me going.

I'll be doing it for them. You feel, you? I need you to keep dropping. Keep putting that music out. I believe that you're gonna be a heavy hitter from over there from OTF, man, for real. You want to come up, man. I'm trying to put on Cali.

I am from the whole Cali for sure. From the day to LA to all that shit. Give your shout-outs, man. Yeah, man. Shout out my nigga, boo. Shout out a little Odie. Odie coming up next. Rookie of the year.

Shout out Day Day, Fibbert, the whole ESR, the whole OTF camp, man, we're coming. 2023 on us, for real. And the truth needs no support. Rubber, I appreciate you coming. Appreciate you. Sitting down with you, man, chopping it up and just diving in for a few minutes. You already know, man, shit, when you drop that volume four, man, come see me. For sure.

Let's sit down. Now, I hope that the viewers now that didn't know you get to go listen to volume one and two and get ready for the drop that's coming on the 30th and which is LD3, man. Y'all be on the lookout for that, man. It was a pleasure, church. You hear me? Fuck with me, man.

You hear me? It's nothing but love. Hey, man, the sharp tank. No jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. Hey, Riley. Shoot us out to gym.