No Jumper - Buddah G on Getting Told On, Wearing a Wire, Transitioning to Male, 6 Years in Prison & More

Episode Date: October 1, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's time. It's the most exciting interview I'm probably ever going to do. Yeah. That's how I feel. Yeah. You should have been to interview me. You got all these fucking other. How many times?
Starting point is 00:00:11 Hold on wait. I got a question for you before you get to going. No, Mike. We can't really hear you, but. How many times are you going to interview butter? You see the video of him today? No. My, poor baby.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Who a baby just want to. I think he broke his wrist. They said he broke his arm. He broke it. And so he's just sitting there with, I don't know. I mean, I guess like, how would he break his wrist really besides like... Didn't he crash or something? That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:00:36 But maybe like, like, honestly, if they had me sitting there with a broken fucking wrist, that sounds pretty painful. You ever been to jail? No. You ever been to Cook County jail? No. Hot. That's normal.
Starting point is 00:00:47 That's normal. But you in there on the vagina side. It doesn't matter. You still get your asswood. All right. You don't have a mic, so we can't have a talking on the side. Sorry. It's the same thing.
Starting point is 00:00:57 What? It's the same thing. The girls are vicious there, too? Yes. Really? Yes. The CO's fuck with you more. Really?
Starting point is 00:01:04 Yes. Really? So you're saying you think that you're harder than butter? Oh, yeah. I ain't crying for shit. This is so crazy. I feel like you've been avoiding doing interviews for all these years, too, right? Like Tommy G.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Came around and got you to open up a little. I wasn't really with all the, because low-key, when I was in the gang shit, we're not supposed to do them. Right. They're not supposed to do them. Now, I'm not supposed to do them. Now I'm a renegade. I can do it the fuck I want.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Okay, but then how come everybody and all these other gangs is doing interviews all left and right? Is this thing on? The new generation, they're weird. King Yellow does interview every other day. That's the most gangster dude I know. No comment. I'm sorry, but I like Scrooly G.
Starting point is 00:01:49 You do. Me too. Yeah, I fuck with him. I'm going to folks music. That's embarrassing. I found out about Scrooley G because he was beefing with King Y. Now, I've been listening to him. Yeah, I mean, I should have been.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Yeah, I went to go, listen to him. I already had millions of views on the shit, so. Yeah. I should already know. I listen to folks. He, he decent. I don't know. King Yela ain't came out with a song that I listened to since, like, 2000 and, like, 12.
Starting point is 00:02:11 He did diso about 15,000 views, yeah. I don't know why, because I put out my first ever rap. Did he pay for him? A fake 15K or a fake 20K is crazy. I mean, that's easy. It's like $50. Yeah. That's like $50.
Starting point is 00:02:28 That would be sad, though. No, but okay, so I did my first ever rap song. Oh, I loved it. Thank you. I appreciate that. That was great. But I did not dis him. Two cops.
Starting point is 00:02:36 But then he made a whole. Remo doing some other shit. He couldn't be here tonight. I'm mad. I was going to give him his props on that song. Oh, I appreciate that. I mean. Props to cops.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Yeah. Sure. I guess that's what I am too. So I break it. I think King Yellow was so mad that I didn't diss him that he decided to devote an entire song to me. I think that these niggas are just truan. you to get paid.
Starting point is 00:03:00 How are you going to turn your back on your GD brother in the form of King Yela? I mean, look at Jay-Man. Is there nothing sacred? Look at Jay-Man. He dropped his flag. He's out the game. Man, I wasn't, okay, now, I knew a few of them. I wasn't like, oh, my God, Duck's my best friend,
Starting point is 00:03:18 but he's the reason I got on. I did that slide. Jay-Mane or Duck? He shared it. How dare you? That just, I don't know, that shit hit different. What? That niggas a clowns me. Which part?
Starting point is 00:03:29 Just him just trying to, because from what I heard, well, from what I heard through the county, because I was in the county when Doug got killed, Dirk's behind all that. That's what they say. Listen, I mean. The CEOs talking. That's not from inmates. The CEOs are in there. COs were all in there.
Starting point is 00:03:47 You got niggas that are stones, COs, Latin King COs, Maniac COs, all that COs is game bank. The primary rumor was the idea that Vaughn had put the money. up to get Duck knocked off. I have never heard anybody give any kind of like valid reason to think that Dirk would have been that involved. I don't know. Personally, it's not that big in my life to stress over,
Starting point is 00:04:12 but I just think the whole situation with him trying to be cool with buddy ass now is weird. That's the weirdest to me. That's like a nigga behind killing my brother. And I want to get shoutouts and music videos and all types of shit. That shit goofy. We all want to see peace At the end of the day, right? Yeah, I'm with that.
Starting point is 00:04:32 If we're going to see peace at some point, one of the people who's angry about their homie getting killed or whatever is going to have to kind of be like, all right, I'm going to leave that behind. Okay, but you never heard of out of sight, out of mind? You mean just ignore each other, avoid each other? You don't have to be doing shoutouts and dick riding on the internet and all that shit clowned out.
Starting point is 00:04:50 If you're going to, if you want peace, okay, there's ways to do it. You could get within your own little crew and tell them like, hey, you know, we're going to avoid these motherfuckers at all costs and we're going to just be low-key and we're just going to that no everything is for the money now that's all for money that's not peace they both getting i don't know what the fuck they're getting out of that but that's i mean i don't think dirk's getting anything out of it besides like maybe some image reputation in the sense your favorite engineer bodine shout out bodine good man boating okay he's so like jay dirk it's good because it's
Starting point is 00:05:22 kind of laundering his reputation and making him look a little bit like less violent if he's fucking with somebody like J. Main. But from J. Maine's perspective, it's like, oh. He just dropped another. I made it. I'm associated with the biggest rapper from Chicago. And I feel like nobody was really hating on J. Maine for pushing peace until he did that phone call with Dirk because that made him seem a little fanned out the way he was acting
Starting point is 00:05:43 on the phone. Then people started coming out of the woodwork. Exactly. That shit's fake to me. It's one thing you push in peace within your own movement, within like the GDs that you know, like whether they be from out west, whatever. you know what I'm saying K-town all that
Starting point is 00:05:58 63rd whatever wherever the fuck he's from whatever if you push a piece within your own niggas okay cool going to the whole other side that's responsible for killing your niggies
Starting point is 00:06:08 nah no you wouldn't see me hitting up the kings from Little Village like hey you know y'all done been responsible for smoking hell of my guys but let's just make a song together talk about each other
Starting point is 00:06:21 talk on the phone it's crazy because we now have this concert that's allegedly happening in October in Chicago where we're going to get to see if Dirk actually brings J. Main and DJU backstage and does some kind of content with him because that's kind of what he was saying on the phone
Starting point is 00:06:35 was that he was going to fuck with them. So that's going to be crazy. I see that happen. I don't wish negativity on nobody. I don't wish none of that. I hope wish the best for them. That's their shit. I have nothing to do with me.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Yeah, best case. That's my input on that whole situation. I'm glad we got that. Free butter. Free brother. What? Free brother. Free my fellow snitches.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Why is it hate for butter? I don't have no hate for butter. I just think the, his whole situation is. Yeah. I thought mine was, he's pretty, bro. Why? Because they, you know what?
Starting point is 00:07:10 I lie. He's not. He's not because he's still, I'm literally in the middle of the interview right here. Like, okay, shout out Bodine. He does all my music, everyone. Hello, Bodine. How are you doing?
Starting point is 00:07:22 Hey, I'm a man. It's been a minute, man. I shut out. I shut out my no. Drop a man. Hey. Hey, can I get my, Hey, can I get my moment?
Starting point is 00:07:32 Can I get my moments? I mean, you and Young had your moment. Can I get a moment? All right, cool. All right. Giddy. The way you to do it,
Starting point is 00:07:43 that's kind of like you're doing like a little midget hand thing. Yeah, that's my stronger here. Oh, okay. That's dope. What the fuck? Wait, but so why is the butter thing hit home?
Starting point is 00:07:54 I mean, because everybody completely, compares me to him. Oh, okay. Like, but it's not even close to the same situation. His situation isn't, I don't even know all the facts because I don't watch half the shit that is on the internet. But from the little bit that I've been told in a little bit, like motherfuckers will be like, oh, fuck the butter.
Starting point is 00:08:13 He's not allowed back in the hood. Woo-woo, fuck him. Same shit they say about me. But then when they see me, oh, what's up, folks? How are you doing? Well, can I take a picture with you? Like, it'd be, like, fanned out. Fan the fuck out.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Like, I'm not, I'm a nobody. For real, for I'm broke. I don't got shit. I'm starting back up. I just came home from the joint. Like, what the fuck? How are you gone for? Six years and two months.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Six years as crazy as, holy shit. For a nigga that told on me. Wow. By the way, told on me. Wait. Fellow SGD told on me. But you're, just saying. I like, I want to, like, go in order, but we're like so.
Starting point is 00:08:50 No, yeah, no. I got ADHD, bro. You got Addy? Uh, no. You take aero? Oh, yeah, bro. Every day? Every day.
Starting point is 00:08:59 No, not anymore. That's why I'm so fat. If I took my Adderall, I would be like your size. Really? Wow. I had to get off that shit. That sucks. While you're locked up, they won't let you take in that?
Starting point is 00:09:10 They don't have that in there. That's why I got fat. Damn, that's crazy. Well, fatter. Fatter, yeah. Slow process. Been a beat, and then I'm on testosterone, that just kicks it up more. Wow.
Starting point is 00:09:21 How's that going? That shit feels amazing. Great. I get a boner every morning. every morning. A boner? Yeah. I get a baby.
Starting point is 00:09:31 I got a baby dick now. Wait. So wait. Do your research. Okay. You get on testosterone, all of a sudden, York starts to turn into a...
Starting point is 00:09:41 It is a baby dick. I can't show you. But, because that's gay. That would be weird. Because we're two men. So that'd be gay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:51 I'm going to accept that. Because you feel like a dude. I'm a grown-ass man. Yeah. Okay. bitch is just like you Okay Are you gonna change your name?
Starting point is 00:09:58 I mean you already have a pretty name Yeah no my name's Joel What he calls me Joel So from Amanda to Joel Yes sir Wow not the dead name Dad's name's Joe Okay
Starting point is 00:10:07 What made you want to go with that Just your dad's name's Joe And you put some else on the end Yeah Okay My brother's name is Joey Dad's name's Joe Joel
Starting point is 00:10:16 There we go Wait can we talk about When you were a little Boudaji When I was a Well I was never little I was like large Even as a kid
Starting point is 00:10:24 You look like your liver? No, no, no, no. I was a scrawny little shit. Okay, you know about the Costco guys? No. Oh, okay. Who fuck is that? A bunch of dudes who we had at Costco all the time and they talk about it on TikTok?
Starting point is 00:10:35 What the fuck? That sounds lit. Maybe we should go to Meyer. It's a bad guy. Keogh boys. Have you had the chicken bag? Huh? You had the chicken bake?
Starting point is 00:10:46 Chicken bake. It's like a thing at Costco. It's like three bucks. No, I don't even go to Costco. Oh, okay. It's like a bread thing. I eat out every day. Ranch.
Starting point is 00:10:53 I don't have time to. Well, Costco's a good place to eat out. Super cheap. I got to check it out. I got to check it out. They even have the double chunk chocolate cookie. Wow. The double chunk.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Just like that. Sounds like me. Double chunk. We got to tap you in with the Costco guys. You got to put me in the car. I'll go do a video with them. They would probably do a whole music video with them. I feel like they're keeping their image kind of clean because they didn't respond to my email either.
Starting point is 00:11:23 They said, you. Let me hit them. up. You know what? Don't email them. Go see them. Pull up. Pull up. With them hitters. That's what I do. People argue with me on the internet. I do my research. I got this thing on my phone. I type in your name. Addresses. I pay for it. Addresses. Where you work. I'm pulling up. So all that, all those extra like the lunch lady comments are good. I'll leave them alone. I like those. The lunch lady comments.
Starting point is 00:11:51 But all that other shit, like, I'm going to come to your job and I'm going to do this. Oh, okay, well, I know where you were. They just think you look like a lunch lady. Yeah, that's like the, I look like jelly roll. 1090 Jake. Yeah, 1090 J. Yeah, I looked into him too, because I didn't know who. When you were telling me, I'm like, who the fuck is 1090 day?
Starting point is 00:12:10 I was good with the Andy Melanakis shit. I've been a fan. When he did that song back in the day with Chief Chief, I was like, this is lit. Hard. This is lit. That's what made you want to transition? Oh, yeah, Annie Melanakis all day. My idol.
Starting point is 00:12:24 But you know what's crazy? No, you know who made me want to transition? Who? Justin Timberlake. Oh, my God. I always wanted to be him when I was young. He was just flying. He had all the hose.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Yeah, okay. All the hose. He was so smooth. I was like, J.T. got it. He can dance. There's old Twitch clips of Andy Milanakis where somebody will come up to him and call him she or her in real life. And you can tell that like he gets bumped.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Like he's not feeling it. Was he or her? No. Oh, I thought that I was like, whoa. No, no. You fucked up my whole understanding of life. He has a thing that, like, basically keeps him looking young forever. How?
Starting point is 00:13:03 Oh, is that a disease? Like a gland thing. Yeah, I heard of that. I heard of that. I watched a lot of TLC in the joint. Right. They got all that shit. Middits, Dorffs, four legs.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Yeah, I forget what he's called. Wait, okay. No leg. Can we talk about your childhood a little bit? What was all like to know? I don't know. What was the upbringing like? It sucked.
Starting point is 00:13:24 My. Stephies a piece of shit when he's drunk. Oh, yeah. They took me out the hot ball. DCFS came a bunch of times when I lied to them. For the bruising and shit, the school used to call the police. Police used to get DCFS.
Starting point is 00:13:40 I went to school, CPS. I went to the Chicago Pub School. They were good about calling DCFS. But the DCFS workers used to come. I used to lie to the ass. I used to leave. I used to get my ass whipped again. Then finally I started running away.
Starting point is 00:13:52 shouldn't they not whip your ass since you didn't snitch on them right no they're mad that they got involved oh okay just in general no that's bad damn so it was like a terrible was it oh man drug addicts or just I'm gonna say too much about my OG because she is a crybaby about anything I say on the internet so I'm gonna just leave her
Starting point is 00:14:13 where she's at but her husband is a piece of shit he can go suck a dick wow for the record suck a big fat nine inch black Bitch. Not a black one. A black one because they're going to tear your last suck. Holy shit. He lucked you.
Starting point is 00:14:31 I ain't smoke in that. Was this like a station thing or just a beating thing? A lot of things. Really? A lot of things. But I'm not going to blame him doing his little weird shit to me as why I am how I am because I always been like this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Like I got pictures of me as a shorty like six, seven years old looking like a dude. You know, I was real cool with them sweatbands. Yeah. The Nike symbol, like Nelly and shit. I thought I was one of them. I thought I was black for a minute. Yeah. I think Nelly had that effect on a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:15:02 But Nellie was like, as I was a teenager, I don't know where them sweatbands came from when I was like 10. I don't know. Okay. So were you like, at what point did you start to get wrapped up in the street shit, though? Oh, when I was like 10. Okay. I was out there.
Starting point is 00:15:16 My real father was a royal. I don't know if you ever heard of that. It's all white. It used to be an all-white gang, but they took, like, some Puerto Rican people, so it was a mixed. Anyway. Are there many white gangs in Chicago? I don't really heard of that. The gay lords.
Starting point is 00:15:30 What's the other one? C-notes. Are you fucking serious? C-notes, gay lords. The gay lords is a gang? Yeah, they were actually heavy. Back in a day... So not, there's no current gay lords.
Starting point is 00:15:41 No, there's some. Oh, okay. And the older ones... I feel like you could roll with the gay lord. No, I couldn't. They were not because I have Hispanic blood. Really? Oh, so they're like hella racist?
Starting point is 00:15:49 Yeah, they're hellor racist. Gay lords are heller racist. The royals used to be like that It used to be like all Italian dudes And fucking like Polacks and shit But they They were like nah They cut that shit
Starting point is 00:16:00 They started letting Puerto Ricans in Now there's black royals So So my shit But my pops was a royal Their biggest ops were S GDs So I turned to RishD I hated him
Starting point is 00:16:09 Because you hated him so much Oh yeah And that my best friend G baby Rest and peace He was an SGD So I used to run the streets With him all the time And so are the Spanish GDs
Starting point is 00:16:18 Related to the regular GDs Like is there anything Yeah but nowadays you know everybody's GDK, like everybody, like... But it's not even like the GD stick together, right? No, no. So everybody's GDK and then the GD are not united. Okay, where we're as GD's from, we used to click up with Sunnyside,
Starting point is 00:16:35 which is where Pappy's from. We used to be with like PBG and all them. We used to be cool with them. Then all of a sudden I came home from my last bid and everybody was like, oh, we're GDK now. I'm like, what? We're as GD's like, well, how does that even make sense? Like, the lit that I know from a shorty is nothing compared to it is now.
Starting point is 00:16:56 We had rules, regulations. Muffickers were getting head to toes for not breaking them laws. Like, Spanish gangs are way more organized. Yeah, I would hear. Discipline. Like, we were, yeah, I just f***ed up now. This generation, they should just not gaming. So wait, the SGDs are GDK?
Starting point is 00:17:17 Yeah. So the Spanish GDs in general. Spanish G. Gangs of the disciples. Black GDs. It depends on which ones. Wow. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Like I'm, I, well, I don't even claim to be shit no more, but I was cool with some niggas from PBG, some niggas from the South Side, some niggas from like 51st and fucking, what is that, Richmond, 51st in Richmond, it's all over. But out west, yes, it's, all that shit is retarded. Okay. If you, now that I'm older, I sit and I think I'm like, damn, what the fuck? What are we fighting for? Right.
Starting point is 00:17:52 What are we fighting for? Because the money I'm making with my shorties has nothing to do with the hood. Right. I was getting like cartridges and getting them for $5 a piece, giving them to my shorties and they're selling them for like 50, 60 bucks in high school. You're selling weed cartridges and making that much money? Yes, I was making a killing. My shorties were popular.
Starting point is 00:18:10 So they were selling them bitches $50 apiece. Really? And bringing the money back. They were bringing like $5 grand a week. But that hustle was like totally independent. dependent of the actual gang. That's just like something you're doing. That's me just putting them on.
Starting point is 00:18:23 But then do you have to give a percentage back to the older game? No. No, because technically that hood was mine. Palatine was my hood. So whatever I did to make money in that hood, that's between my hood. So it doesn't matter what the fuck we do. I kept them from a lot of shit. He's from my hood.
Starting point is 00:18:40 I kept them from a lot of shit. Were you doing tons of beefing early on or was it mostly just you're part of the gang and you're just like hustling? What do you mean beefing? Like, were you just getting into it with all? other neighborhoods and shit. Oh, yeah. Oh, stop.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Pull up gang strong. So for a long time. You're like, the gang bang. It was like, we're at war. Oh, yeah. I was at war from the start.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Oh, yeah. From the start. I, I, pop my first nigga at like 12 years old. Pop, but not dropped.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Didn't catch a head. Didn't get that hat, but I didn't know what I was doing. I may have to do it. Yeah, all right. Yeah. You tried it.
Starting point is 00:19:16 You can open up a lid store? I clocked out a, Lids. A small lid. I clocked out at Lids, bro. Sorry, I got fired. Hell nah. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:19:29 You almost say that in my next rap. I got fire from Lids. I'm not catching no more hats. Yeah. Now you get paid off that bar. You owe me. Writing credits. Bouda G.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Hell no. Now, I can't use it. I was going to say something slick. We can both use it. Next bar, I got that from 22. No, my next song is about Trump. Really? Yeah, I wrote a whole lot.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Oh, yeah. Oh, hell yeah. And out by where I live, there's a whole Trump store that they said I could do the video at. Really? Yes. What do they sell at the Trump store? Huntley, Illinois has a whole Trump store. Make America Grading on hats and hats.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Yeah, it's a pickup truck right in front of it, big flag with Trump's face on. Oh, yeah, I'm in there. Wow. That's a good idea. I could open up one of those out here. He should. Yeah. Should.
Starting point is 00:20:10 I don't know. There would definitely be some issues. A lot of very, very liberal people out here, but it's definitely probably some Trump supporters. Is this like the hood? Is this considered? hood over here? I mean, I don't know. I'm not from here.
Starting point is 00:20:21 I could give you some cross- I want to go to lefty gunplay's hood. I want to go to the rawst king binger in L.A. Oh my God. You should do a song with a lefty gunplay. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:20:34 That would fuck the Hispanic world up. Indeed, that man, I watched a few of like his interviews or just people talking to him and I just can't. What's wrong with him? He got chemical imbalance? I think he also has a meth imbalance.
Starting point is 00:20:49 It's all he does meth. Yeah. He's the methicampus very kidding. Gee, I can't. I'm not sure he's like always on meth, but for sure that's like one of his past Oh man, I thought I was bad on the Adderall. That's crazy. He's fucking f***ed.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Yeah. That's the whole thing. If he doesn't continue making money rapping, he can't do anything else. Right. Well, nothing. I don't recommend you like go to any like crazy gang areas, but what you need to do is go to Skid Row. Downtown L.A.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Put that in it. That's where you're going to see. We're going to skid row. We're going to skid row. Because it's not like I'm going to measure the socks, nigga. It's not like that dangerous. It's not like a super gang banged out place,
Starting point is 00:21:29 but it's a place where you could see the craziest homelessness and bums and crazy shit. Have you ever been to Iraq? We see that all the time. Lower Wacker. Yeah, but I haven't been to like the bad, bad parts of Chicago. Lower Wacker drive is tech.
Starting point is 00:21:42 It's literally downtown where the nice shit is that. The lower Wacker is we went down there one winter and they were living better than me. I was like, what the fuck? I went in one tent, generator, hot plates, 42 inch flat screen TV.
Starting point is 00:21:57 This is the middle of winter in Chicago. January, literally below zero. These motherfuckers are just living great. I'm like, and this is the fuck I'm paying all these taxes for?
Starting point is 00:22:10 Because y'all getting my money. You're still getting a link. Mini fridge full. Mike, like, bro, what? I've been to. That shit's crazy.
Starting point is 00:22:19 O block and then all the nice touristy parts of Chicago. I've never been O'block. I've never even won it late. But okay, are you from? I'm from up north. Okay. So everything down south has none of your business? No, I know.
Starting point is 00:22:35 We don't go there. Especially, we don't talk to bitches are from over there. We don't, bitches are back door you from the south side? We don't play that. We don't go nowhere near a little village either unless we're getting locked up because the county's in a little village. Okay. And so everybody in down in southern Chicago, I don't give a fuck about what y'all got going on up there.
Starting point is 00:22:51 It's like totally different. Nope. Okay. I love that. Even when I'm talking to like Von off 1700, it's just like they have to make it. Another reach. His music, okay, look, I'm not going to lie. His music, I listen to it.
Starting point is 00:23:06 He's hard. Yeah, he goes hard. He's that shit right now. But he's slow. It's another slow individual. Really? I think he's like way smarter than most of the rappers I've dealt with in the real world. From the interviews that I've seen, slow.
Starting point is 00:23:19 He cool. slow? I can think of like a hundred Chicago rappers who are way dumber than him. Oh. No. I gotta hear this. I gotta hear this. We've mentioned a bunch of himself. I think Vaughan is self-aware. He knows what's going on. He's just with the shit. I think he is he really with all that? I mean, he seems like he is. You don't believe that's him in the video at the gas station? Man down. I don't know. I don't know. Even if it's not I don't know if it is. I believe. I don't know. I don't got no problem.
Starting point is 00:23:53 This is not to beef with nobody. I'm not trying to look for clowl. I listen to his music. You know, my nephew, Loki is from a block away from his. My nephew is an MK as a Spanish gang. But they what are they what do they call themselves? I forgot what Vaughn said that they're from. I forget, but the MKs are cool with their click. Whatever click Vaughn is from, they're cool. So they like toss gang Toss gang, that's it They ate in the system They get pipes and shit
Starting point is 00:24:25 Whatever they do whatever with them They get pipes together I don't know what I'm talking about Anyway What Toss gang Plumbers I would have a hard time being in a gangset
Starting point is 00:24:35 How do you not always make the joke about Toss in your salad Yeah that's gay Right but I would just have to make that pun A reference all the time If I were him Did you do it when he was here? I don't think
Starting point is 00:24:48 I was like, Hey, when I was trying to I was like, I'm trying to toss game. What's up? I wasn't about to be like, toss your salad.
Starting point is 00:24:58 I didn't know that good yet. But now, now I'm a rapper. I can say some shit like that. Yeah, you're with it. Man, that podcast is a lot on 1700.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Don't fuck around. I'm going to toss your salad. Whoa. With the scy on or off. Both. You would toss it either way. Start with an on, take it off halfway through.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Crazy. No. I would not do that. That's my boy. I would not. You're to take the shysty off from the back. Does he really have a fucked up hair line? I've seen a picture of him without the mask on.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Vaughn. It could be better. I can tattoo your shit for you. Come get it right, my boy. I got you. When did you decide you wanted to get the craziest lineup tattoo ever? Let me tell you. So I'm a barber.
Starting point is 00:25:40 I cut hair. Okay. I used to, I got real bad OCD, so I used to push my lining back. I wish I had pictures of that shit. I used to push my line. lining back all the way to like right here.
Starting point is 00:25:49 So the A-Rab nigga that used to cut my hair back in the day, he used to be like, man, you should just tat it, you'll never push that line back. You'll never want to go past that line. And I did, and I never passed that line again. I have three hair transplants. Does that work? So that works? Yeah. I should get that. Turns out you had to go
Starting point is 00:26:05 three times. But I mean, from your perspective, did you get that line? Did you go where LeBron went? No. I'm not sure where he did it. That's like a new, I've seen some other shit. I was like, if I ever go bald, for one, I'm going to tattoo. the rest of my head. I tattooed part of it.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Is your hailing receding at all? Nah. The testosterone's got to help with that. No, not yet. I don't know why. I've been ironed for six years. Six years. Yeah, six years.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Wow, so they had to keep giving it to you while you were locked up? Yeah. And they administer it. It's not like you're walking around with a tube of testosterone. No, you go twice a week to health care. Really? You can either give it to yourself or the nurse will give it to you. Like, from my experience, having done steroids when I was younger,
Starting point is 00:26:45 holy shit. You're juicing? Best feeling ever. I did like one cycle, which, you know, I probably should have stuck with it. I probably look a lot different right now. When I first came home from the joint, this bid, I ran out. And I hadn't got seen by a doctor yet. So I had to buy this shit off the street.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Shit off the street? Strong as fuck. I was like, whoa. Whoa. Because you're probably getting like a different testosterone, right? Yeah, it was a different brand. I feel like the brand in the joint was like not as strong. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Yeah. Like my beard, like. poop I was like it's the own shit really it's like that so when you don't have it you start fiending you're like a crack yeah that test the test hey and for the record for the record my mustache is not fake it's not drawn on like everyone says I penciled his mustache it's super super thin oh yeah I like that that's the reekin stop yeah yeah it is you know what I'm saying a show oriqua you got a real Rican kit going on with the hairline and yeah the fucking thing because I grew up around a shit lot of Puerto Ricans yeah yeah how was that good
Starting point is 00:27:47 people. I did too. Chicks were hot. I did too. Oh, man, the bitches. Probably all fat and pregnant. They're probably all fat and pregnant by 25. My bitch is, my bitch is full, well, she's 25% Cuban, 75% Puerto Rican.
Starting point is 00:28:00 This is your girlfriend? She's locked up for murder right now. What the fuck? She was an original Wilo D from Humble Park. Wow. Out west, Keystone in the Wambanza. So you're holding this woman down? Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:13 While she's locked up for murder. That's a badass bitch. Yes. And you assume that she's going to get. You get 20 years and you're going to hold it down. No, no, no, no, no. She's on her bed. She's about to come home now.
Starting point is 00:28:22 So how long she's been in there? Oh, so you've met her in that. She just, every time I go to the joint, I f*** her on and off my whole life. She's been in there for 18 years. She's older than me. It's a bad bitch, though. And you've been faithful this whole time. No, she knows I'm cracking hose.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Oh, my God. What the. She's scrubbing. She's scrubbing head in there, too. We do our suck this. That's a bad bitch. It's like your bitch. She's like, babe.
Starting point is 00:28:45 When I come home, we're from a fuck close together. I'm like, yes. That's a cool pastime. I'm with all of it. Yeah. You get fed up together too. I'm like, I'm gonna go on no jumper and ask Adam about his wife. Are you okay with this?
Starting point is 00:28:55 Wow. I'll be like, can I be the first train? You didn't. Y'all don't want to. Y'all can't together? Are you fucking? Now, that's disrespect. A lot of lesbian couples will fuck with a man.
Starting point is 00:29:06 I'm not a lesbian. Okay. I'm a fucking old dick. Okay. Okay. Yeah, not having it. I just wasn't sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:14 In that Tommy G thing, it's like I wasn't 100% sure. like if you were identifying as a man fully. Yes. Okay. Fully. Okay. IP standing up. Seriously?
Starting point is 00:29:23 Yes. I'm a master that the other day. I mastered it. Is your kid a boy? No, is your girl? How does she do that? I don't know,
Starting point is 00:29:31 but we were in the shower and she just like poked her hips out and just started peeing on the ground. She's raw. She's training. I had to know that was possible. She had the sex room? No. I don't know a good plug.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Oh, that's the day I fear. Dad, I don't want to be a boy. What would you think? How would that make you feel? Well, shepherd her into the promised land. Man, that's crazy. No, what age are we talking? I mean, if she's dead right now, she's three and a half.
Starting point is 00:29:59 She's three and a half? Yeah. Okay, now this is where I might sound like a fucking hypocrite, but when they change that law to where kids can decide what they want to be, what is it, like seven they said, is when they can decide their gender. Really? That's fucking crazy to me. It sounds very early.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Exactly. I feel like if my daughter was like 11 or 12 and she was saying she wanted to transition, I'm not saying I would start the transition then, but I would take it very serious. Where I go to the doctor, there's like in eight and nine year olds and they're getting, there's nine year old boys getting hormones pumped into their body. And you think this is wrong. I think that's wrong. Yeah, this is very strange.
Starting point is 00:30:39 I think that's very fucked up. I did. Like you don't, you haven't experienced anything in life to even know. you're being influenced. Those kids are being influenced somewhere down the line and that shit's fucked up to me. I don't.
Starting point is 00:30:53 And the LGBTQAI, A, B, C, D, one, two, three can get as mad as they want. You're not going to make that joke. You're on that team. I can, that's why I can say that. You. But they... I don't even know what that means.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Cicet. Hetero and cisgender. There's too many. I gotta take my hat off for this one. There's two fucking many for that. I don't know what the fuck that's that I know no no yeah but that's I had a son and he came like I want to be a girl at fucking four or five years old I would say go sit the down like no where where who told you that yeah where did that come from so I could go whoop their ass yeah well I'm not
Starting point is 00:31:36 whoop any of his ass but I'm definitely going to be why would I fight I don't know wait where I come from we throw these when I think about like kids transitioning I think of this being something that happens like exclusively in like privileged rich ass areas but i'm also assuming you don't go to a clinic no i go to literally a in it's called women something health it's an aurora so it's like shitty not and it's not for rich people see that that's very interesting it takes the medical card which that's what the fuck i got state insurance i don't have fucking no i'm a trench baby ain't another I love the idea of me and you going to work and making money and then some of our tax money going to help nine-year-old kids transition. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:32:22 What the fuck? I mean, I could, I mean, that's mind-boggling. Okay. What age does it become badly? Because you sound like you knew when you were nine years old. I knew when I was nine years old that I liked. See, yes. But did I know that I wanted to be a man?
Starting point is 00:32:39 No, did I know I like dressing like a boy? I was comfortable like that. and I like to do boy shit, play sports, be in the hood with niggas, kick the boboes, talk about other bitches, yes, yes. But I never was like, oh, I'm gonna, but no one ever influenced me either. What's kicking a bobo?
Starting point is 00:32:57 You know what I'm kicking a bobo's is? We're kicking the bobo's right now. We're talking shit. Kicking it. We're kicking it. What's the boboes? I don't know. It's just a term in the rack that we use.
Starting point is 00:33:07 I don't know. I don't know. Hey, Loki. Yeah, no. I don't, no, never broke that down. I love slang. I love that you don't. I love that I don't know either.
Starting point is 00:33:17 I guess I'm a dumb rapper too, right? No. I don't know if you're as smart as Vaughn off 1700. I would like to do you guys play Jeopardy against each other. I might not be as smart as him because he's making it. I'm not. You're probably, he's rich now. You've got to be in the top 90% of intelligence for sure.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Not top 10%. Well, thank you for giving my price. I think so, yeah. I appreciate that. Yeah. I appreciate that. I'm not making, everybody's just kind of goes retarded. If wrapping don't take off, I mean, I guess I could go on one of those shows and try and make it.
Starting point is 00:33:51 No. No? That's like the thing. I don't even barely smoke weed. That's the thing holding a lot of people back. Yeah, no, I don't. Drugs are scared. So if I put a plate of ecstasy pills on the table, you wouldn't take one?
Starting point is 00:34:00 No. That's probably good. No. No, especially not when now, now, do I take ecstasy? Have I taken ecstasy before? Do I like ecstasy? Hell to fuck. Yeah, but.
Starting point is 00:34:10 For a freak off. Yeah. A Diddy party? Oh. Uh, no. Save the oil. Save the oil. Hey.
Starting point is 00:34:21 You saw the bed in this man's yard, though? In Did he's yard? On the basketball court? How much memory foam did it take? How much memory foam? Thank God that memory foam doesn't really have a memory. Because that memory phone has seen some shit. It's got stretch marks.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Yeah. That memory phone got stretch marks now. Neat. prints, oil stains. I'm so fascinated by you being in a relationship with somebody who's locked up. So when do you think they're coming home? She had two more years to work release. What are the odds that like they get out and you don't really vibe the same way on the streets that you vibe?
Starting point is 00:34:55 I mean, if that happened, that would still be my homie. Okay. Because we were homies first. But it's like a passionate thing. Yeah, it is. I love that bitch. Yeah. Stad in my forehead.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Oh, so that's Beatrice? Yes. Free BBD out there, bitch. BPD. B B BD. Who's Diana? My mother. What's that one?
Starting point is 00:35:13 My mother. No, Rosario. Now you're dissing the dead right now. You called my dad, homie a chicken. That's really right. I thought it said my back. What's you trying to say she's turning in that mother? I heard boss man Dilo said I'm in rotation like some rotisserie chicken.
Starting point is 00:35:29 How do fuck did he come up how he did, bro? He just saying the fly of shit. I just, man. I just want to be like him. Yeah. Be able to be lit without dissing. You know who I really quit? What's that fat niggas name?
Starting point is 00:35:41 Drewski. Drewski. I love him. Oh my God. He's fucking hilarious. Nobody's funny other him. No. Before he even starts talking.
Starting point is 00:35:48 No. He's just fucking and the shit he wears. Yeah. Like what? All he has to do is put on a slightly out of ordinary costume and the funniest shit ever. Yeah. Did you see? He had some girl shit on some like skirts and shit.
Starting point is 00:36:01 He was rolling his back on. No. The one where he was like a goth rapper. He was kind of doing like a tricky rap day. Yeah. That was funny. Oh, I seen that one too. If they would have told me that they were doing that shit in Chicago, his casting thing, I would have win.
Starting point is 00:36:15 I would have win, though. If he ever comes back, I could probably connect you. Let me know, because I'm going. Wow. I'm going. He, you know how he was treating the niggins for the rack as soon as they walk and he's like, oh, no, he got the white, he got them black ones on. Oh, no, he's a stepper. He got to get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:36:34 I can't believe we haven't seen a Buddha G20 versus one. Oh, man, these holes don't want me to do. that. I'm so ignorant. The holes that be in my inbox now, I'd be like, the last bitch that said something, I'd be like, uh, what did I tell us for you? I said, look at you and look at me and make it make sense. And then I told another, dude, I would treat the bids. Do you fuck with chicks who have never facked with a trans man before? Most haven't. Okay. But I do tend to, if they f*** with a girl at all, I'll fuck with them. Okay. But if
Starting point is 00:37:08 they're like straight, never fucking fuck with a girl ever in their life, I probably wouldn't because they're just gonna... Push it away at some point. Yeah. I'm 34 years old. I've seen it happen a million times. Right. So wow. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not fucking no bitch. I's never with a bitch. Not saying
Starting point is 00:37:24 that I'm a girl, but I still, unfortunately, have a baby. It can only get sucked on so much. Do you feel like it's going to get big as time goes by? No. It's probably to its capacity. Oh, okay. Yeah, I don't think it gets bigger than us. But you would never get the surgery? I would, but I've got to do more research on it.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Because from what I've read, no, not right now. They're like, you could lose feeling. If I lose feeling in this little nigga, oh, no. Life's over. Well, I see. Give me the ass and that. Boy, I'm going. I see pictures the line where they cut it.
Starting point is 00:37:54 No. They cut the skin and everything out of the arm. And it looks. They were doing the arm. Now they're going to the thigh, so you can pick the size of your shit. Wow. So you can have a big. ass dick, but you're going to have no ass feeling.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Yeah. So what's the point? Oh, I just want to make you happy, baby. Okay. No. Have you heard of this thing? I heard, because there's men in the porn industry that do this, but it's basically you get like a pump installed.
Starting point is 00:38:18 So there's like a button in your ball sack and you press the button and that's, it like transfers blood out of your body into your fake new dick. And that's like like dudes in the porn industry, their dicks will be so burnt out from years of abuse. Yeah, I was wondering that they can't get hard anymore, I guess. so they'll get this implant, but then I heard that the technology came from the trans world. It probably did. It probably did.
Starting point is 00:38:41 But, no, they're still got to keep working on it. As of right now, no. Right. Because in a joint, they were offering that to us. Really? There was like three, four trans women. Trans women are men going to women. Which, I don't know if you know this, but IDOC, if you're on.
Starting point is 00:39:04 hormones. If you take hormones and a men's joint for four months, they'll send you to where I was just at. Which, so you're with bitches. It's insane, right? Insane. You got, I don't know if you ever heard of back in the day there was this this guy who was killing prostitutes and he's dumping them. He was killing prostitutes and young girls, black girls all over the west side of Chicago and he's dumping them in garbage cans. Wow. This like went on all through the 80s, like from like 1981 to like.
Starting point is 00:39:29 He's in there? He trans, trans, trans, trans, took the hormones for four months. Mind you, he's old as hell. Okay, he's been locked up since the 80s. Right. They caught him. This man, old as hell, they transfer him to our, whatever. They put them on a wing with, I guess you could call us the bad kids.
Starting point is 00:39:53 It's called the D-wing. They had us all in the D-wing, whatever. They put all the trainees that first come in right there. This nigger was faking it, told all of us like, yeah, I just did that, so I could come I'm here for bitches. I was trying to fuck on one of my homies. She ain't being. Shout out she ain't being.
Starting point is 00:40:09 And her lawsuit. I hope it's looking good. This nigga sliced her face open. What? Because she didn't want to fuck with him. Slice this shit. Holy shit. That shit's crazy.
Starting point is 00:40:19 And that's not the only one. There's a bunch of them that are there for rape. Women crimes. Your guys are fucking beating women, stabbing them, killing your wives. There's one weirdo in there that killed his wife and got the plastic surgery to look like her.
Starting point is 00:40:32 What the? What? Yes. That's real life shit. So you're up close and personal and you're seeing all the fucked up shit that all of them under the guys. The one that fed her baby to her husband while she was at, oh,
Starting point is 00:40:43 I met all these murders. Wait, that's a girl that you were around during the, yes. She fed her baby to who? Her husband. She got into an argument with her husband. Her husband was paying too much attention to the baby and not her.
Starting point is 00:40:57 She, he was at work. She cut up the baby, cooked it, fed it to this nigga when he came home from work. And he said, well, where's the baby?
Starting point is 00:41:04 she's like, you just ate him. Okay, that's officially the worst thing. That's the worst thing I've ever heard in my life. There's three of them. That is the most thing I've never heard. I was locked up with a bitch who her four-year-old son took a broomstick shoved it all the way up his ass and into his
Starting point is 00:41:20 organs and killed him. Okay, also in the running for the worst thing I've ever heard. Let's see. What the f- we got one lady that was high off-leaf, off that water, after PCP, was walked into a park. grabbed the four-year-old and bit his lip off in front of his mother.
Starting point is 00:41:39 A big, big black bitch picked his ass up. Yes. What? And all my homies from the joint that are home right now are going to watch this. They're going to be like, damn, we were locked up with all these fucking weirdos. There's, um, let me see. What's the good? Like the women sound like that more extreme crimes than the man.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Crazy. Very. There's one. We got the two Mexican bitches that, uh, were all on the internet talking about. We got baby stuff for sale. the baby out of that bitch's stomach and then uh killed her through her in a garbage can um out of the stomach cut the baby they wanted just a baby they posed like they were selling baby stuff oh what she showed up yeah this happened in little village low key yeah and you were just around
Starting point is 00:42:22 this person had to be and did you ever have conversations with them like how could you have done that you know what i used to tell they ask you're sick as fiss that's away from me right the but here's where it's real they're not like niggas. They're not going to PCD these bitches. No, they're just walking freely. Child molesters, everyone's just walking freely because everyone wants to stay with their girlfriend. No one's going to fight these child molesters or baby killers or nothing like that because
Starting point is 00:42:50 they don't want to get separated from their mate. So what percentage of women in the women's prison end up in a relationship sexually with another woman? 90. 90. Or more. That's crazy. Everyone's in a relationship. Either you were in a relationship.
Starting point is 00:43:04 are in a relationship, thinking about a relationship. Yes. Even if you've never thought about hooking up with a woman, if you're locked up for five, six years, it's probably got to start to seem pretty appealing. But it's happening in the niggies during, too. They're just not broadcasting. You hear about that, but like, for men,
Starting point is 00:43:18 it's like such an important part of being a man that you don't fuck other men. Well, you know, speaking of the GD's, um, Lil J, you know, Lil J's rapy's my best friend.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Really? Rochinda, she told me to let you know, she's about to come home. Okay. I know you're going to want to interview her. I would love to, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Shout out Reddy Red, wait until she comes home. What should tell you about Liljay? That he's a fucking weirdo. You and Liljay are the LGBT icons of the drill era. No. Yes, you should be on a bill. No. No, he thinks he's too cool.
Starting point is 00:43:53 For sure. Him and that receding hair line, I don't think I'd want to be. Does he have a fucking? He needs this tattoo. Really? Little Jay, I got you, folks. I'm going to take Liljay to Turkey. For what?
Starting point is 00:44:03 To get the hair transplant. Oh, that's where you had to go? Yeah. Well, that's the ill one. If they'll let him in, because he's a, he's a, yeah, probably wouldn't. I don't think they'll let him in. I can't go to a bunch of places with a passport, even if I got the passport. With my record, I'll never go to Dubai.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Yeah, that's crazy. I really want to go there. You can't smoke weed. Yeah, what's the hype? What's the hype? It's like a fake city. They like invented it out of nothing because they wanted to create like a Middle Eastern. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Then I don't, yeah, no, I'm not with all that. That's, yeah, let's go downtown. Right. The fucking. Yeah, I don't know. But yeah, Lil J's Rapby. That's one of my good-ass friends. And she told me basically that she barely even knew him when she caught that case.
Starting point is 00:44:50 And she stood 10 toes. You know, she got found guilty. He beat it. Wait, he committed a crime with his girl. They caught him body together. Her, him, and I think they had one. more other rapy. Oh, so I'm not even familiar
Starting point is 00:45:03 with why Lil J's locked up. Okay, Lil J was locked up for a body originally. He caught in-house cases. Okay. That's what he ended up staying in jail for that he recently just got out. I don't know what he went back for.
Starting point is 00:45:13 I think a pipe case. But he caught this body with her. This was the first night she met him. He committed a body, whatever. Some shit went down. I don't know. She was just there. She stood 10 toes.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Didn't tell on his ass. Did it nothing? He left their ass in there. Didn't look out for her, nothing, whatever. He told on her or just... No, no, I don't think he told on her. Well, there's no proof. Yeah. I mean, she don't know. He don't, I don't know. Mostly a normal girl before this. Yeah. And now she's been locked up for hell of years. But she's been writing. She wraps. And she's not bad. Thank God. She's not bad. So she might take off when she comes on. I hope she does
Starting point is 00:45:51 because she's been in there writing. It's like a little G. Herbo and... Oh, really? This is good. Oh, yeah. She's wrong. You fuck with that Montana red, the... I don't know who that girl. friend that was on DJU. I don't know who that is. That was me. Probably the last trans interview I watched was Lil J's former lover on DJU. Oh,
Starting point is 00:46:11 from jail? No. I was saying they had the nigga from jail? The nigger that was sitting on his lap, they interviewed him. That's what they should interview. That is who they should be interviewed. But that could be like anyone because of the video.
Starting point is 00:46:24 You don't even know how many he's actually. Oh, my boy, Liljah, he probably crushing all they at. Bussy. Bussy. Exploding busy in there. He's probably... Can you imagine the smell of that cell?
Starting point is 00:46:37 Oh. You were just there not too long ago. You ain't never bump in him? I bet Lil J's made a stank. Weren't you in there? We were all in there when dirt came in there. I was in a Cermack. Was that the most exciting day ever?
Starting point is 00:46:50 No. I don't even listen. I don't even listen to a little dirt. Really? Yes, I don't. It's pretty good. You know who I like from... I like this new one.
Starting point is 00:47:00 little nigga from O'block. He like a singing-ass dude. Oh, Ikemon. Yeah, yeah. He cold. He called. Somebody, if he signed? I don't know. Somebody needs to make that kid rich, because he's raw. Right. I don't give a fuck about the BD, GD, whatever. If the kid even is, all I know is he's from O'Block. I don't know if he's a... I don't know if every single person from Oblock is a BD.
Starting point is 00:47:20 I don't know because we don't do Salsa. I think so. Every single one of them? I never heard of a GD who like lives in O'Block like currently. Well, not a GD, but I mean... Other gangs. He might not game bang at all. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:32 He's raw. I fuck with his music. You know, okay. You know this is the trend that I notice is like somebody like shoebox, baby. He comes out. He's not really dissing and shit. Now, now, look, put on the way. He comes out.
Starting point is 00:47:44 He's not really dissing and shit. As time goes by, he's trying to get lit. His new song with little Reese is like, oh, we're smoking everybody. And Reese. Oh, you're not Reesey fan? Z. No. You don't like the D.
Starting point is 00:47:57 You know who I liked? The Dike Reaper. Frito. Rest of piece, Frato. All. day. My homie, uh, my homie Kool-Aid used to be fucking on the same bitch as Afredo back the day. Kool-Aid. I looked him up because
Starting point is 00:48:08 of you. Did you? Yeah. Yeah. He's like, this fucking guy. He's right. Yeah. You guys aren't on good terms anymore? We, uh, we don't vibe. Okay, it's over. Hippercritical. Why don't you like L'Risi? Because he fights the lesbians?
Starting point is 00:48:24 Yeah. Yeah. The Dipper. Ain't going to fight me. No. I'm not getting to last out. Don't let me catch that job. Yeah. It really, that's really, he's small. Yeah. Now, let me tell you something. He is.
Starting point is 00:48:37 I'm not saying I can fight every single person in the, but I got these bitches. And if I get up on you and you're my height or anywhere near it, it doesn't matter if you're man. I don't even feel like Riesie would be mad at me for saying that I think that you will probably whoop his ass and a fair fight. I feel like. I mean, you're off the test too. It's like unfair. Hey, oh. He's out here just getting drunk and shit.
Starting point is 00:48:59 We can put the gloves on. You're like the rock. Hey, my hood, we throw the gloves on. We put the gloves on. Right. That's my favorite thing to do. I fight all these niggas. I fought him.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Stand up. He is a big diesel. I fought him. He was my ass. But guess what? I fought him. Right. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:49:15 But the gloves. Why'd you fight? Just for fun? Because my hood, when you get in, the way I used to bring shorties in, I don't get a if you shoot a gun. Everybody can. All right. You put a switch.
Starting point is 00:49:26 These are the kids nowadays. Yeah. These switches. I had switches before. They were even popular. Really? I had to connect. These switches are new to the...
Starting point is 00:49:35 They're never caught you with it? Nope. Nope. The thing that blew my mind was the clip of YBC dual getting killed and they pull out and they shoot on the switch. And in the surveillance tape footage, it just sounds like... It's like so fast that you can't even hear it. If you are not trained, which none of these little Chicago niggas are trained in shooting,
Starting point is 00:49:57 you guys don't go to the range. Like, every bitch I fucked with... head concealing carry they're shooting them from like four feet away exactly this is my this my thing these niggas got guns with switches and shit and don't know even how to shoot a regular gun by itself let alone one with a fucking switch let alone your fucking a hundred pounds soaking wet your arm's gonna be like this this is you every gun got a kick yeah it goes up so if you're shooting down that bitch and be like this you don't know what the fuck you're doing a lot of people a lot of these young kids are probably like literally never shot the gun
Starting point is 00:50:31 Like they never shot it. Like the first time I shot it, like, Bha! Like, you can't believe how much they shot it. Yeah, a lot of, a lot of guns,
Starting point is 00:50:37 the higher the, uh, caliber, whatever, the worst a kickback. I shot a 50 cow at a range with my ex and damn near blew out my fucking rotator cuff. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:50 A 50 cow. These, these, these motherfuckers are out here with drakes and switches and whatever the fuck they be, what's the new ones they rap about in the songs? Like all A-R-P's like, Like, what the fuck? First off, what the fuck do you need that?
Starting point is 00:51:04 Wait, why don't you know that? Shoebox, baby. This is why I don't like you. I'm not saying, hold on, wait, I'm not saying Bodine is the greatest fellow ever. But I don't understand why they're steady coming for him. For Shoebox? No, shoebox, like, real life just came for Bodine. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:51:26 I didn't even know that. Oh, you didn't know that? No. Yeah, he like, they're like, real life beef. Really? Yes, he's like, I guess they ran over Bodine, some shorties, some of shoebox shorties, they ran his ass over. In a car? They said they were going to kill him because Bodine kept going to O Block on foot. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:51:44 How was this man treating? First off, he was just an engineer. How are y'all listening? Hey, that's my dog. He's like a GD engineer. Well, he's, I. You know, whether he wants to be or not. Yeah, he's GD now.
Starting point is 00:51:58 He's GD to the bone. But what I'm saying, how? other I wish I would have a whole gated community is my hood because that is a gated community it's a gate you're one way in one way out and since I went there you should be everything not only that you okay having a having a hood in the suburbs gated community one way in there was one way into our neighborhood one way out people be like oh it's a suburbs you're not what the fuck we're how are you game banging there that's crazy no that's worse you mean it's easy you mean it's easier to catch them on fire like that with one way in one way out, especially if the niggas are all standing around.
Starting point is 00:52:36 But my thing is this, if Bodine is walking into O Block constantly, why are you only getting on the internet talking about I'm going to smoke you and this and this and that? Where's the motion? Yeah. Where's the motion? The only motion they ever gave Bodine was they ran him over. Wow. You guys ain't shooting at them. If this person is going to your neighborhood, you probably like...
Starting point is 00:53:01 Every day. If someone's coming to my... gated community every day, I'm catching you. So, all right, if I'm not, the little niggas out there are catching you. No one's going to a gated community just being disrespectful like that. I think the last he's trolling to try and treat them.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Because shoebox baby got on the internet, they were on a call. It was like a FaceTime call or whatever, Instagram live, whatever the fuck they were doing. I only caught pieces of it because like I said, I don't pay attention of that shit. And I don't really give a fuck. But I do fuck with Bodine. You know, he looked out when I first came home, came hit me with some studio time for free, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:53:36 Because I came home to nothing. So, but yeah, I just looked into it and I was like, what the fuck is going on here? And this man don't stop. Shubax baby don't stop. He just keeps going. And going, going. I'm like, damn, this nigg is bored. Like, where's the action?
Starting point is 00:53:54 Like, if you really about to go on 63rd. But I feel like Shubox wanted to be a somewhat positive rapper. and he's just sort of like realized that that's not going to work. But you basically have to be on some bullshit. Well, I don't know him. I don't know him. I don't know. I have a majority of these niggins.
Starting point is 00:54:09 I know I'm like three years or whatever. And I just feel like I've seen his output get worse and worse in terms of being aggressive and violent. Right. Well, shit happens. Good luck to shoebox, baby. Good luck. So was it hard, like, transitioning once you were already in a gang? Because you probably didn't start to transition until after.
Starting point is 00:54:29 I was always a dike, though. Oh, okay. It was never like the niggas, okay, I'm not going to say they didn't take me serious because they didn't take me serious in the beginning of my whole gang career. Only very selected and the ones that did knew that I was really about that life type shit. So, but those are niggas are gone now. Dead, locked up. You know what I'm saying? But it took years of me doing crazy.
Starting point is 00:54:56 I don't mean like regular. I mean crazy shit. You had to earn your respect big time. Yeah. You feel me? So to get the respect. Because at first, niggas would try me.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Niggas would be like, oh, fuck you can turn you straight type shit. Like, what? Aside from the hats, what were you doing? They got you this reputation. What do you mean this with? Like, what kind of shit were you doing that had them?
Starting point is 00:55:19 Besides the hats. You got that wire on? No. You got the wire on. No, it broke in the car on the way here. I left it. I got the wire right. But like, what kind of shit?
Starting point is 00:55:31 actually get you that reputation, just violence, period. Violence. Violence. Yeah. You guys weren't the type of hood that was doing heist and you would get rewarded for robbing a truck full of cigarettes. That's a mafia thing. See, that's the problem.
Starting point is 00:55:45 That's why I look back and I'm like, damn, what the fuck? Because when I was a shorty, we weren't making no money. I think like my big homie would give me a teen of some coke. I'd turn around. He'd cook it for me. I'd go. I'd sell it. Trick off all the money on bitches and bottles.
Starting point is 00:55:59 Come back like, and I f***ed off your money. What do you do? Give me a quarter. Boom. Cuff his money again. Boom. Come back. He'd be like, man, I'm not, I'll give you an eight ball.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Boom. His money off. Like I was, we were, there was no money coming in. You know what I'm saying? And the little bit of money that we did have, shit, we sold bitches to sometimes. Like, yeah, we, low key, we had a trap that was low key doing really good for a minute. The top floor, the top floor we were selling, see.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Second floor, we were selling crack. Third floor was dope. Wow. And we rented out a room to bums who needed to sleep. Bums? Yeah. So it's not a liability to have a bunch of bums around the prostitutes and the drug selling? No.
Starting point is 00:56:39 They're too scared to do anything. Right. It's not like they're going to rob us or something. How many bums total? Like two or three at a time. Oh, okay. How much they pan? Whatever they came panhandling.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Like we were so thirsty for bread. We didn't give. Middle of the winter. A lot of us were sleeping in that trap. I slept in that trap. I feel like a seasoned drug seller slash pimp would probably tell you that it's not safe to do both. in the same locations. We were doing a lot of shit
Starting point is 00:57:03 that was the same. Well, I don't even know where to we learned half this shit. Right. So the north side's crazy. People be like, oh, the north side. Y'all ain't gone shit.
Starting point is 00:57:12 Oh, y'all not, nothing like out west. Man, Logan Square, Albany Park. That's where you got put on. Oh, no. Yes. Albany Park is.
Starting point is 00:57:22 How bad was the put on? What do you mean? Like when they jumped you into the game. I was horrible. Really? It was bad. I had a broken room. Really?
Starting point is 00:57:30 Yeah. broken room. And that was... But they over did they park because I was a female. Hmm. So everything was always like that. I get violated. Anytime I've ever been violated, bogus. They put the biggest niggas like not him, but they'll put like bigger niggas than him on my ass. Right. To make an example. Honestly, anybody who doesn't believe that a woman can transition into a man, I feel like this interview is probably the thing that's going to convince them because you exude so little femininity. You're all dude.
Starting point is 00:58:02 And I know the test helps. But like I just like I get so little like it's crazy that you weren't born with a dick. I thought I was. Yeah. It didn't help that. I was like six years old and I had a 16 year old babysitter like teaching me how to eat busy. Oh, Jesus. They said I was that station.
Starting point is 00:58:21 I thought it was great. So you think that that. Hey, shout on Patricia, wherever you are, baby. How am I? So you have no. bad memories of this. No, she was great. Wow. I was even six years old. Then my mom
Starting point is 00:58:37 had a friend and like, I would be like oh, let me sleep over with her daughter and then like we would fuck around. Like it was great. Those are the best times in my life. I still remember every detail. Wow, when I hear that. And I was like six and seven years old. It makes you feel like like I didn't even kiss a chick until I was like
Starting point is 00:58:53 13. Oh no, I was in that shit. But I was like I also was shown a lot of shit. You feel? Like if I, like if I was six and I had a babysitter and she was high and she wanted me eat her pussy like pro six I was a little kid like as much as I would have been attracted to her probably like that shit would have me hey and she walked she literally watched me until up until I was like 12 and you kept hooking up oh yeah oh my god I learned everything now I'm a pro everything you know
Starting point is 00:59:24 holy shit and it's all good memories all good memories never anything like weird like What kind of woman is doing this to a small child? It's both a weirdest thing I could imagine. A woman that was getting busted by her own people. Oh, you know what I'm saying? It's all, it's all a fucked up cycle.
Starting point is 00:59:41 It's, but it's up to that person to stop that cycle. You feel me? Like, it's easy for me to imagine that a person who gets arrested could then go on to people, but like, right.
Starting point is 00:59:52 How often do people just start doing that. Yeah. Like where, there's, there is a percentage that are just born, yeah, weird. But in general, Even besides that, like they don't really know where fetishes come from.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Yeah. Like it's really hard to prove it. Because like why is somebody in the feet? Oh yeah. It's very hard to understand. I had a homie that I used to do a security for. I met her in jail in Cook County. I started doing security for her and I used to stay in like the, uh...
Starting point is 01:00:18 In jail? Yeah, in jail. I met a lot of prostitutes in jail. What kind of security do you need to do in jail? No, no, no, no, no. Oh, I'm outside. Outside I did security for her. Like, she would go and escort.
Starting point is 01:00:28 I would sit in like the conjoin room, the bathroom, whatever. Because niggas ain't going to try to rob her. They see me all tatted crazy walking in with a gun. They're not going to do anything. Right. She used to get robbed all the time. Okay. So me and Kool-Aid, we used to like come in with her, be like, you know, this is the right.
Starting point is 01:00:44 This is what it is. You never call them Gool-Aid? No. What do we use to call Kool-Aid the kid? Kool-Aid the kid. I asked some Gigi's on here the other day. Big C-C. And they're talking about drinking Gool-Aid.
Starting point is 01:00:55 I don't know what Gool-Aid is, but it sounds good. It's like a Halloween drink. Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. Is that lean? Ooh. We're drinking Gool-Lay. Now we drink Bool-Aid on you, dude. You switch it up.
Starting point is 01:01:09 We got Bool-Aid, niggas. I mean, that is kind of weird. Like, why do you got to change a K to a G? It's gonna be called Bool-Aid. Oh, we gotta make Bouda-G cereal. Yeah, little rats. Or like protein powder. Little chocolate ones.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Bouda-G protein powder. I know. Like a creeteen? The container is just your face. Oh, my head. Yeah. My lining. Oh.
Starting point is 01:01:32 I mean, that was a good idea, right? We could sell some of that shit. Hey, that would sell. Well, you let me know how I'm back. I feel like this is the best Chicago interview I've ever done.
Starting point is 01:01:43 We're only like an hour in, but this is quality right here. Probably. This is really good. You know, it's really, you should have interviewed my cameraman. You know, I'm going to get on your ass.
Starting point is 01:01:54 It's illusionary. If he don't stop tagging you and shit. Oh, my God. He's buying promo posts or something saying I need to interview. You need to. Why? Because he is the heart of the Hispanic gangs. We don't know that much about Hispanic games from Chicago.
Starting point is 01:02:08 He'll learn. Yeah. You'll learn from him. Okay. He does all of us. Like he knows, you feel what I'm saying? I need to see like a clip of him talking before I could really decide.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Anybody who wants me to interview them, they should probably send me like a clip of them talking or like a clip from another podcast or interview and then a list of topics. Like these are the things I want to talk about. And then here's a clip with me talking. I can basically make my judgment off of that. Man, because he Frikes with like, he lives in the heart of Little Village.
Starting point is 01:02:39 Little Village is, we need to pray for Little Village. Us Chicagoans, for real, for real, if you have a heart at all, you should pray for Little Village. Because Little Village is so, really what? Have you seen the, okay, for example, do you know who King Ace is? Have you heard of him?
Starting point is 01:02:57 Sounds familiar. And I don't have no problem mentioning any rapper's name. that dude that was with butter is a fucking clown. I don't want to say her name in the interview. I don't want to get nobody with props. I will beat your four-eyed ass. Wait, who said that? Buddy ass on your one,
Starting point is 01:03:10 your one fucking interview with butter. They were talking about you but didn't want to say your name? Yeah. When I first came home, I can't remember. I have it. When I first came home, he was like,
Starting point is 01:03:20 I don't want to mention, because I don't want to give nobody no. Get your bitch ass on. No one of you and nobody who knows that man. Nobody knows who the fuck that is. at all. Which one? In the rap industry.
Starting point is 01:03:32 You don't even... This nigga, you don't even know who he is. Him. Oh, yeah. I don't like giving people what. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, bitch. You know my name.
Starting point is 01:03:52 But no one knows yours. Don't nobody know who that man. I wish I could remember his name. And you know, it's crazy? I put that I will slap the fuck out of him instantly when I heard that. Somebody tagged me in that and they were like, hey, this niggas talking about you. Wow. So I put it and I was like, hey, tell Butt his cameraman or whoever fucking fruity buddy was with him.
Starting point is 01:04:13 I will beat the fuck out of you, nigga. It could go there. He hit me up instantly. Like, man, I was a man. Man, bro. I'm not on none of that with you. Yeah, you know better. You know better.
Starting point is 01:04:24 I could be a snitch all day. But as soon as I, it goes to that. We got to get you and Buda on good terms because like a FBG Buddha or like... Oh, no. Butta G. If you guys were a couple? Oh, my. A couple.
Starting point is 01:04:39 And that would just work so good. Hey, where's he locked up at? I don't know. You said a couple. Well, I don't know about that. I mean, he's kind of got like a little bit of a dyke vibe, right? Yeah, he kind of looks like a lot of the dikes I was locked up with. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:54 Yeah, he's got the dreads like them, you know. Like, I know him to be a man. He gets him blonde. But he kind of like... He is like... He is like the poster. Like, if you type in Chicago Dikes, his face should pop up. Because all the Out West Dikes, all the South Dikes, they all got a fucking hair blonde.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Their dreads blonde. They all wear essentials T-shirts. That's just like everybody on the face of the fucking. Look, I was shopping. I was shopping. I was... Hold on a way. Wait, wait.
Starting point is 01:05:26 I was shopping for this interview. I'm like, what the fuck am I going to wear to this? I say it's between two things. A Nike Tech's jogging suit, because I really don't give a fuck about a kid. And that describes me, Nike Tech, for I'm in the field.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Or I'm going to wear something that puts on my city. What better than a fucking Angel Reese t-shirt? I ain't wearing a bullshit. I don't wear a no. Angel Reese, y'all need to go watch them Sky Games. Baby, I love you. Just know I watched every game. of you in college while I was in the joy I watched all that wow watched all of them
Starting point is 01:06:00 you think she's turbo I hope not because I love her and that would ruin it now would ruin no loki you know what's crazy a lot of bodies you're cool please say ari please say her because a lot of my bike friends then ran through ari oh how dare you Ari was a bottle bitch back in the day our reason Ari may be with money bag and all that shit but it's like a lot of these Chicago rappers that you bump in, like, I've bumped into a lot of these things. She leveled up. She went from a bottle girl to money-
Starting point is 01:06:30 She brought her all the way up, and it's crazy. She don't even like that. What? She, she, she's larfing as a heterosexual person. She's, she might like it now. You know what I'm saying? But back in the day, she didn't like it. She was obsessed.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Man, what the fuck was that bitch's name that? She was, I was locked up with her girlfriend. She was obsessed with her girlfriend. But, like, they were in love, like, or lesbian relationships are deep. You know, you know in the first 10 minutes, if you're gonna fucking move that bitching, if you're gonna love her kids too, you know it.
Starting point is 01:07:05 You know. Because I mean, the stereotypes about men, it's crazy. Men are supposed to be stifled emotionally and we don't talk about our feelings. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not you. But not me, but you two women.
Starting point is 01:07:14 You're in touch. You put women together. They're already just like automatically going to be like open as fucking sharing, sharing, communicative. It actually sounds like great for a relationship. Until it's bad. Until it's bad. Yeah, yeah. Then it's real bad. Or if one of the people cut up their baby and fed it to their husband, that might be the kind of person who would be kind of
Starting point is 01:07:34 fucked up in a relationship. Yes. You know, it's crazy. In a joint, in a woman's joint, they don't care at all about none of that, that those people find love there. Yeah. So they're okay with being in jail. Yeah. Because guess what? Their life's over outside. They know this. They're never coming home. And they find a soulmate, whatever. a soulmate. They find something love, whatever, relationship, whatever, they find it in there. They need to do a television show
Starting point is 01:08:02 about that because that right there would get air time like a mother. Orange and black. No, that's fake. Right. Oh, okay. If they did like a real like real life, went into Logan Correctional, which is the, there's only two prisons for
Starting point is 01:08:18 women in Illinois. It's Logan Correctional and Decatur. Decatur's minimum. So you're not having all. those weirdos there. You're having the constant junkie or the retail thefts. That's what you're getting, the DUIs, whatever. Logan has all the fucked up people because it's max and medium together.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Okay. So if they went up in there and they did a show, oh man, crazy, but Illinois won't do that because Illinois, that's like back in the day, you would never see Illinois cops, an episode of cops. They don't want you to see how bad. Because they don't want you to see. There's no first 48 of Illinois.
Starting point is 01:08:51 they don't want you to see how bad it really is. And that's what's weird when you watch any of the prison reality shows because it's like, A, why would you want me to see this? And B, you're not going to show, like, there's not going to be a prison reality show where they're all making shanks and shit. Because it's like, it's too crazy. Like the cameraman would be like basically forced to go tell the staff, right? Right.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Yeah. Because that's, I'm guarantee that they sign something before they're able to even come in the prison. Like, A, if you see this type of shit. this type of shit, this type of shit, you have to, you know what I'm saying? Because somebody making a shank is like basically almost guaranteed to kill somebody at some point. And that doesn't happen in the women's facility. Yeah, they don't have. No stabbing.
Starting point is 01:09:33 No. No. You're getting your at. I mean, there's a lot of fights. Them bitches will fuck and suck and get high. That's the fuck jail is. They don't even fight that one. Who has more shoppers? And their fights are horrible. No, nobody go blow for blow. You just grab the hair. Man, I had, I had two braids like that in the county. Got into a fight. with a dyke. The dog walking you.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Dyke grabbed my hair. Cut it the next day. I was like, man, I was trying to grow it out. It was real nice, have braids. No,
Starting point is 01:10:00 you ain't going to grab my hair in a fight. I stick and move. Do you have a shag? Oh, yeah, yeah. It's like kind of
Starting point is 01:10:05 mullet. It puffs out a little bit in the back. Oh, okay, that's cool. It's coming in. But see, I want like a Mexican OT type shit
Starting point is 01:10:12 when it grows out. Ooh. It's hot. There's a lot of crazy Mexican mullets. Yeah. Oh, yeah. grow a hell along in the back and then they do like they shave so there's like a no that's
Starting point is 01:10:21 shag that's not a mullet no a shag is something like the afro no no no Chicago no that's not I'm thinking about yellow BZ and EBK J-BO northern california and Texas yeah that's a different that's yeah black niggas in chicago don't do that yeah you either are waves dreads you look like finesse two times why is that so funny he's a good looking guy right Because, no, look. Gee, big Weissler. A.D. Weisler? He's a viceler, right? I think he made a whole song about being a vicer.
Starting point is 01:11:00 That's dope. Shout it out, Weisler. Yeah, I guess. Angel Reese is your only WNBA crush? Yeah. Okay. No, I lied. That other bitch that fought during the finals for them. Ah, she's from LSU, too.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Or no, she wasn't from LSU. They play together now. She's on the team of her. I think she's Puerto Rican. her light skin but she's bad. I don't know Angel Reachery. They're on the Caitlin Clark. You don't fuck with her. Caitlin Clark looks like she's related to you.
Starting point is 01:11:26 Yeah. She's like the most stock white person on the face of the planet. I even like, I feel like I got a little more soul than whatever bloodline Caitlin Clark came from. Yeah, she's kind of corny. Did you see a...
Starting point is 01:11:40 She got a boyfriend. Did you, oh, here. Camilla Cordoso. Who's that? Fine. Baby. I got a thing for black girls. Hmm.
Starting point is 01:11:49 Why are all the tall girls ugly? Who's ugly? I just feel like... If you have enough growth hormone in your body to make you six foot seven, then you're probably... The growth hormone's going to affect your facial features as well. You think so? I mean, usually when you see a tall chick, she's kind of goofy looking, right?
Starting point is 01:12:05 I don't know. Well, yeah, so I've never... That's all bitch. Yeah. I would have to, like, I'm real short. I would have to, like, really get in there. I'd have to be like, hey, can you, uh, put your leg right here?
Starting point is 01:12:19 once I was in the airport and I'm high as Wait a minute I did I remember having that same conversation She's 6 566 Bro A chick 3 inch taller than me
Starting point is 01:12:33 What would you do with that? I do not know I'm just like Could you imagine like picking that up flipping her around and shit Or you couldn't do that I mean I would do it I could I borrow you some tests
Starting point is 01:12:44 You'll do it No I think who's like my height though 6 3 Man Rocky Emmer Person. PlugTot. Only plug talk.com.
Starting point is 01:12:52 What type of name? It's a porn name. Oh, I was going to say that, Rocky. I always talk about her. I'm constantly giving her for promo. When I think of, like, porn names and I think of like
Starting point is 01:13:02 Jenna Jameson. Yeah. Back in the day. They got to get more creative now. Wait, look at my bitch with this, an insanely tall chick. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:13:14 Instagram.com, so I was running out a plug. Check out how tall those girls is. I guess we could edit it in. Holy fuck. You know what? I'm not a fan of white girls, though. That chick looks bad.
Starting point is 01:13:24 I'm not really a fan of a... And that could sound racist, but I'm not really a fan of white girls. No, that's fun. But if I were to say... Hispanic? Hispanic. If I were to say,
Starting point is 01:13:34 I could never fuck a Hispanic girl. You're crazy. Yeah, I would be crazy because that would be... Hispanic... Hispanic puts he has like a crazy-ass taste to it. Has an aura. Yeah, it's like...
Starting point is 01:13:46 I don't know. What's the taste? Teresa? A little bit satsal. little sasone, little dobo? No, you know what I do like? Weepa! I used to hang out with this one Mexican girl,
Starting point is 01:13:59 and, like, her mom must have been cooking all the time. Bro, I love Mexican girls. She would come to hang out with me, and she would smell like a straight Mexican restaurant. Like, she had been hanging out in the kitchen. So, like I said, I got my girl in jail. Made me hungry. But I got girls out here.
Starting point is 01:14:12 Well, I don't got girls. I got a Mexican girl, okay, that I just recently started talking to. She probably, probably tastes like chorizo. And I love chorizo. So, you know what I'm saying? That's going to be bad.
Starting point is 01:14:26 You know, I like to eat. Yeah. So when you think about the idea. She's going to watch this and be like, nigger. The idea? I don't want to fuck you no more. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:14:37 I'm trying to figure out how gross you find d. Like. Disgusting. Would you rather have sex with me or get hit by a car? Car. truck 18 wheeler 18 of them
Starting point is 01:14:54 that's death yeah it's fine you die I die if you f***ed to me inside yes you never I die inside
Starting point is 01:15:02 even when you were young you never touched a dick I was interested oh yeah besides that like consensually you never did anything with a man no do you think the
Starting point is 01:15:10 did you think that would have happened either way no it happened either way I was like that already so it pissed me off even more you know what I'm saying wow yeah no
Starting point is 01:15:19 Absolutely not. That's, man. Because, baby. I know a bunch of lesbian couples, like, in the porn world who will meet a guy. He's got a big damn. Boom. Come hang out with us.
Starting point is 01:15:30 They f*** him together. And then the guy leaves and they go back to being in the love. You know what us trans men and studs think about girls that take strap? Take strap means strap. A guy. No, no. Strap is like our guy. Oh, get a strap on.
Starting point is 01:15:45 Yes. We feel like in a long run, they're not really gay. They're not really. You know what I'm saying? And a lot of them will be like, oh, it's just because I love you. It's just because I'm into you. That's why. No, somewhere down the line, you wanted it or going to want it or you like it.
Starting point is 01:16:05 You like it. If you like my strap, you like it. And so in the diaper, liking, getting fucked by a dick. Is like the lamest shit. It is. But, yes. Oh, my God. It is, but it's also a dominance thing for us.
Starting point is 01:16:24 We like doing it to you, but we don't like the fact that you actually are doing it. But I feel like this is your- It's contradicting. This is your specific. This is not my- Because you're like a tough. Get- But not a-
Starting point is 01:16:34 There's no other dachs in a game and I can't count young M.A. Because, well, she got f***ed all her niggas. So she don't count. How do you know that? Because I went to New York. And they just told you that? No, I went to New York and I went to a club and ended up fucking her- her, the love of her life on accident.
Starting point is 01:16:51 Yes. Young M.A. called me, Gene was like, I'm like, this is when I first started rapping. I was like, holy shit, this bitch is. So you're saying the Younger May has got by men over the years, and therefore you can't respect her. When Young M.A. first came out and there was that video, and she was sitting on a couch and it was all her niggas wear her.
Starting point is 01:17:09 She cracked three niggas in that group. I'm sorry, they cracked. But what if she was just bisexual? What if she likes a guy sometimes? Then I can't take you serious. As a lesbian. As a lesbian, as a dyke, as a fucking, as someone who's trying to be, a lot of this sounds like contradicting, but it is what it is.
Starting point is 01:17:30 That's what I feel. I feel like I can't take her serious as a thug or a street nigger because you let niggas from your hood hit you. She had consensual sexual. She had consensual sex. And you can't respect that. And I can't respect that because if you are a street, street nigger, you're not going to be fucking on your home. Why can't she be bisexual? Because no.
Starting point is 01:17:54 No. And I understand like we all think of young Emma as being a lesbian. Right. She may be now. But before when she was, I think she was like 15 when she started rapping, 15 or 16. She was she was some, I don't know the exact age. But she was experimenting. I seen her the other day.
Starting point is 01:18:15 I almost feel bad about doing so much speculation about her sexuality here. Well, I mean, you got on the topic about mine. You wouldn't you wouldn't you got the chance who young am i no she's an icon i mean she's a man looks like yeah that's not it's the other way it's other way but i also think she she could play both sides she's pretty no no no no oh okay no no i don't know what i'm talking about uh would you hit her hold on would you faker now you've said some awful shit. She doesn't want anything to do with it. Someone like me or a penis.
Starting point is 01:19:00 I didn't say. That's not what I asked you. Am I attracted to her? I think she's pretty, do I, she doesn't present, like, in a feminine way. I've honestly never thought about that in any... Think about it now. If we were locked up together, I'm down. Oh, okay, cool. Well, in the state of Illinois, you could
Starting point is 01:19:16 be. I was... I would wear her than all the dudes I'm going to be locked up with. How about me? Would I fuck you? Yeah. I'll fuck the shit out of you. You're a fuck. But you won't fuck her. I'm just kidding. That's gay as the fuck. I do think that I could get my
Starting point is 01:19:33 car and fuck you if I needed to. And I think that I would chop them right off. I feel like the beard might throw me off, though. Your woman don't got a little peach for us? No. No? I've had to fuck a lot of girls that don't buy the on camera. Not a lot, but.
Starting point is 01:19:45 So you have fucked a lot of girls with your wife. Your wife has, obviously, other niggas. Uh-huh. You, that doesn't bother you? No, I'm good. Has she ever Granny? No
Starting point is 01:19:58 Would you let me hit it? No That's crazy That's not right You've described how tiny and weird Your little fake d'clock is Yeah but my real My real one
Starting point is 01:20:07 That's not a fake one That's real It's an enlarged My fake thing It's very expensive And is large Honestly Everybody like
Starting point is 01:20:17 Ask this question But It's so much smoother and easier To work with the male porn stars Because we're like actually cool and it's not awkward do you consider yourself a porn star yeah sure
Starting point is 01:20:30 maybe not a star but a porn how much money you make yearly give or take just from porn not from this not from your podcast at all seven figures off porn yeah it's crazy yeah it's deep i should fucking go get sono bello bella i should go get my body real nice be a porn star a tranny porn star people will pay for that i'll hold all day i will help usher like he's like yeah that's weird shit like people like weird shit i had a uh a trans woman who used to be a man who is on here and she told me that she was making like 400 grand a month off only fans exactly exactly do you know how many niggas ask me if they can with me or take me out air them out who anybody popping no nobody
Starting point is 01:21:25 I'm saying like on a daily basis when I meet people like it there's been to weird ass shit he's been with me and a whole nigga was like I know you're a stud but like I would shit out of you and I was like I will shoot you what like and I'll go to jail for it and not give a fuck you are the best trans person I've ever met my life for sure the best you're the best you're the best gay guy I've ever met. Thank you. That's a big guy ever met. If there was any justice, you would be like
Starting point is 01:22:00 where Taylor Swift is at? Like, you need to be that famous. I'm a Swiftie. She's the best. All day. Shout out Taylor. That's a big part of. If I ever get like mainstream, is that what it's called when you get rich? And then you do the Polo G thing.
Starting point is 01:22:15 You know, you go from like a drill rapper to like you do pop music. He just does a song of Von on 1700. Yeah, but he does pop music too. Kind of, yeah. that's so crazy you know I was gonna get signed when he got signed really I got locked up two weeks later you could have been in 300 300 entertainment hit me the A&R from 300 entertainment wanted me to
Starting point is 01:22:33 fly to man I had it booked everything was ready to go I caught my case wow didn't even get to go what could have been that's crazy now I'm broke trying to let me ask you something because everybody's gonna want me to ask about this I assume you've been saying the N word since you were a tiny child I can get a bitch Was there ever a time where someone gave you a hard time about it? On the internet under comments, who gave him the okay? Well, when you grow up around nothing but Puerto Ricans and black people,
Starting point is 01:23:08 that tends to be part of your vocabulary. I may look extremely fucking white. I am half Puerto Rican. I, that doesn't, I don't, that doesn't mean it gives me the right to say, but it's part of my vocabulary because of where I grew up. That's not derogatory. I love black women so much. Really?
Starting point is 01:23:29 So much. Yeah, that's that good, good, yeah. Real thick. Nice. Yeah, anyway. Yeah. Yeah, man, man, bro. Every time I get to sample the dark arts.
Starting point is 01:23:43 The dark arts. Hey, Puerto Rican niggas really got a thing for black women, though. It's like a, like it's Hispanic. men, period, like black women. Like, it's like a thing. That's interesting. Do black women like Hispanic men? Yeah. Where the fuck you been at?
Starting point is 01:24:03 Because I ain't, baby. Really? Okay. So... They're curious. Because they're so used to nothing-ass niggas that they're like, maybe this is different. It's weird because it's like every Hispanic person I've basically ever known in my life,
Starting point is 01:24:17 has said that NWR, not everyone, but probably 90% of them. And for the most part, I've never really heard anyone give of shit besides online. But then you look white enough. I look like that's why. Okay, when I first started rapping, there was a lot of backlash on the internet,
Starting point is 01:24:34 which, by the way, I started rapping as a joke. He knows. That video was just basically to make fun of the that were around my neighborhood. Green light of my. That was a joke, bro. Like, that wasn't even like to be taken serious. And then it went viral.
Starting point is 01:24:52 But it went, hit like a hundred and something thousand views in four minutes. Four minutes? And then it hit a million views in 15 minutes on Twitter. No, for some reason I know. You want to know why I don't get as many views as these other rappers. Everyone wants to hate me.
Starting point is 01:25:09 A lot of cameramen won't do my visuals. They won't even answer me back. My visuals. People don't want to interview me. People don't want to. They don't want to give me any play anywhere at all because they don't want to see me succeed whatsoever. Do you think it's because of your gang affiliation or the trans thing? I don't know what it is because even when I first started off, it was like that too.
Starting point is 01:25:35 So it's not like, oh, he's a snitch. That's why we don't like him. It's like I've been blackballed from the jump. The only reason why I think that 300 entertainment hit me up before is because they were so infatuated with my image because no one looks like me like I mean 1090 Jake looks like me but he's not a tranny
Starting point is 01:25:59 you know what I'm saying there is no tranny fucking rappers it's me yeah I'm my own genre you feel me I know so a lot of they were like really like stuck on my image type shit so I think that was the only thing that was really gonna give me sign back in that
Starting point is 01:26:15 because my music was trash now it's decent oh yeah it's decent now before horrible. I don't even like to listen to it. I feel like I haven't heard any of the new shit. I've only heard the old shit. I don't, yeah, exactly. You want to know why you haven't heard nothing? You haven't put anything out? I did.
Starting point is 01:26:29 I just dropped two music videos. Oh, shit. The same day the Tommy G. video was up which the Tommy G. video hit over a million views. Oh yeah. But my music videos didn't. Right. Because no one wants my music to succeed. But how did that Tommy G. Video changed shit for you? It was like a
Starting point is 01:26:45 huge spotlight on you. It got me fired for my job. Really? Yeah. I was working at a gas station. I was working at Casey's. I said sue the fuck out of them. Why did they fired you? They fired me. They said it was against policy what I did because I said I worked for Casey's. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:26:59 But I don't understand how that's against policy. Were you having people come in and recognize you and was it a whole thing? I mean, they were okay with people recognizing me coming in. People weren't coming in like on bullshit. Like I said, a lot of people will talk crazy on here. But when they see me, can I take a picture? I take 25 pictures a day if I go on in public. Right.
Starting point is 01:27:18 That's the airport on the way here. what, 20-something pictures at 5 in the morning at O'Hare Airport. Then I got here and it was like, what, another 10, 15 people. So you're working at the gas station with a pipe on you all day? No. I'm just like, you see. I don't know what the fuck you're talking to them.
Starting point is 01:27:43 There's no way you weren't strapped up. No comment. You haven't run into an op in that situation? I've run into many ops and you know what they do? Give you a pass. Can I take a picture with you? Really? I've taken pictures with kings, counts, vice lords, full corner hustlers.
Starting point is 01:27:58 These are all oppositions of what I used to be. How do you take a picture without feeling like they're about to pop you in the head as soon as you turn around for a second? The way I live my life is if this is when it's going to happen, it's going to happen. But so all those people don't. I'm not going to live in a bubble because I'm scared of, I don't give a fuck. But they don't get to talk about the gang shit because you've moved on? I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 01:28:23 is. I don't know whether they're scared because they know I'm I actually will pop your eyes or if it's they really are a fan or if it's they want to troll later on. I don't know what it is but guess what when they see me it's fan shit. Nothing but fan shit. I haven't had not one person come up and be on bullshit. Not one and I've been out almost five months. Yeah. So honestly even as people have known where I worked my whole entire time I worked at my job. So it's not like the Tommy G. video went out. Someone came in my work, they took a picture and went viral. They were like, oh shit, Buttigieg works here. Kids were coming in,
Starting point is 01:29:00 taking pictures, getting pictures, autographs, I autographed face masks, a basketball, fucking skateboard, like, like, yeah, I mean, it's kind of crazy because you read so much negativity online, but even as famous as I am, I've only really had like a handful of times
Starting point is 01:29:15 where anyone has said or done anything negative to me in public. Yeah, no. Which is like, I could go on Twitter or YouTube right now and easily find like thousands of thousands of comments from today shitting on me. But then in real life, it just doesn't really happen. Like, everybody's a bitch in real life. For real. For real. Like, I got one,
Starting point is 01:29:33 this girl, actually, a lot of people don't know she's a girl. She does, she's got her platform on Instagram certified scene. It's like a Chicago thing. She got over a million subscribe, whatever. Shout out certified scene. She shares
Starting point is 01:29:49 my music every time. She's mutual. But, like, she will post my shit and people will talk so crazy. And then I'll look, because like I told you, I do my homework. So a lot of the people, I'll look deeper into who they are. I'll find their Facebook. I'll go in their comments. I'll look at, my favorite thing to do is when the ops talk crazy about me,
Starting point is 01:30:12 I'll find their pictures of them and their kids and I'll heart it. And they'll be like, oh, so you're on that type of time. I don't know what you're talking about. It's a nice picture. Right. they'll be like oh shit type shit you know what I'm saying I'm talking all this crazy shit and this niggas hurting pictures of me and my kid but aren't they supposed to kind of take that as a threat like I'm gonna do something near your kid that's what they can take it as but I didn't say that
Starting point is 01:30:34 you don't want to put that energy out there and so no but when you're on my thing talking about you're gonna smoke me you're gonna smoke my family members you're gonna do this you're gonna do that in the third then I'm gonna do my homework and I'm gonna spook your ass I'm not saying I'm gonna do anything to a child I would never right but it put that thought in your head. You know what I'm saying? Like, leave me the fuck alone. I'm not trolling you.
Starting point is 01:30:57 You know what I'm saying? Definitely. Okay, so I've always wanted to talk to somebody about him. What was EBE bands like? Oh, it was my dog. Yeah. I was my dog. I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 01:31:09 He, um, any features that I have out there were my favorite rappers. Before I started kicking it with bands, he was a very righteous dude. Like, he didn't have to do. do my feature and then become my homie. Like he used to come about, like I got videos of me and him kicking it, smoking, chilling.
Starting point is 01:31:28 Like, he used to come to the crib. He met my mom. Like, he's, he was cool. Like, that was my dog. And it's crazy because I live out there now in Rockford where this shit happened. Right. So, like, I bump into people that, like, knew him. Anyways.
Starting point is 01:31:46 Because the dude who killed him got locked up for it, right? No. One was on the run and they just found him. Oh, wow. They just extradited his ass from Mexico. I'd be talking to his mom, Ben's his mom. And, yeah, they found dude in Mexico. They just brought his ass back.
Starting point is 01:32:00 He was like a white dude, and he just went and hit out in Mexico? No, he wasn't white. Oh, what was he? He's Hispanic or something? Okay. You think a white dude's going to go to Mexico and be like, hey, can I kick it here a real a little bit? Well, I know a lot of...
Starting point is 01:32:12 I thought you go to Mexico. You might last there. Okay, I know poker players and crypto dudes who do just, like, go to Mexico and just live cheaply and they're just weird and just on their computer all day out there. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, probably not the kind of guys who are selling heroin. The cost of living is cheaper out there, though, too.
Starting point is 01:32:29 So, I mean, you could buy property and shit out there and be straight. Right. Okay, but is the story that we've all heard about how he basically, like, ran off on the plug and that's why they killed him? Is that basically accurate? He might have. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:45 Like, we used to, uh, hold on. Oh, yeah. That's when he had to take a drug test. We went ahead and had to find like a fake. thing to piss in a fuck but like he
Starting point is 01:32:56 he I don't know he was in the shiasty shit like he did shysmuffer like he was good at that he taught me how to scam a lot of shit like how to do the iPhone scam how to do the he had this scam where he would
Starting point is 01:33:11 post on Craigslist and shit that he was selling like tickets for socks games Cubs games and then he'd get these motherfuck to Apple pay him the money and then he'd go go sign him like and that I was like, that shit don't work. He'd make like a ban
Starting point is 01:33:26 in an hour from that shit. I was like, what the fuck? But he incites me. I don't get a fuck what he did to anybody else. That's on them. I was locked up when it happened when he got killed.
Starting point is 01:33:38 So the little bit of stories I hear from living out that way, like, motherfucker be like, yeah, he ran off on some work from them but I also heard that he put them on. The little niggies that he did that. Really? So there's so much different shit.
Starting point is 01:33:53 I don't know. Is he like the most gangster white boy you've ever known? Or is there others like that out there? No, I know a lot of sad was white boys. Really? Yeah, I mean, he was gangster, but I mean, I don't know him on a gangbang side. Okay. You know, he's a, he was a titani.
Starting point is 01:34:08 He's a stone that's nowhere near, you know what I'm saying? When me and him would link, it would be on some cool shit. Like I said, the only, the features I have, I have two features, him and Mikey Dollars. And at that time, him and Mikey Dollars were my favorite rappers. So to be able to get a feature from two niggas that I listen to daily was like everything. And Mikey Dollars was a righteous ass niggas too. They didn't have to, they hit me with a good feature price. They popped out for the video.
Starting point is 01:34:34 Like Mikey Dollies used to come kick it. You know what I'm saying? Like them niggas were cool. Definitely. Okay. I want to ask you this. You truly believe that the gangbanging world would never be able to accept a male that was transatl transitioning into a female.
Starting point is 01:34:52 No. And does that not seem, you know, irrational and unfair to you as somebody who's also transitioned? No, because that's like, okay, women are supposed to be like
Starting point is 01:35:07 soft creatures, you know what I'm saying? Like, why would this person that wants to be soft, caring, loving, whatever, be,
Starting point is 01:35:18 want to be a gang bearer. That's the exact opposite of what you're trying to, so why would I accept someone who's that or who wants to be that but it's trying to game me? That's like way too contradicting for me. Right. It's not that I feel like, oh, you're a fucking weirdo. I don't want to. I wouldn't be around you.
Starting point is 01:35:35 No, I just think that that's that right there is pointless. It's just like incompatible with the lifestyle. Yes. If you want to be a woman and you want to be like a nurturing like, you know what I'm saying? you're not going to go in gang bang. No. Have you ever heard of gangs that allowed gay members
Starting point is 01:35:58 in Chicago? Kings. So you could be out gay and they don't care. Look at fucking, what the fuck is the fat niggas name? Magic. LK, whatever,
Starting point is 01:36:10 I don't know what they're fucking doing. Oh yeah. He interview him. I'm sure he'd come and tell you everything. They have a whole video this man fucking sucking. And he's still. still respected by his block.
Starting point is 01:36:23 Wow. If I suck the, okay, right now, there's this whole controversy me of being a snitch, right? Okay, there's still a lot of members that fuck with me. There's a lot that don't, but there's a lot of members that fuck for me.
Starting point is 01:36:37 If I went and sucked the dick on a video right now, he ain't go fucking. Even as a biological wound. No, no. They're going to be like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Like, no.
Starting point is 01:36:49 They're definitely, not going to respect me on some street shit. Part of it is the deception. You've made it clear that you're not interested in that at all. So if they found out that you were doing that, it's worse than freaking. That's not what we knew you to be. There's levels to everything.
Starting point is 01:37:03 Yeah. Like there's levels of tricking. There's levels to, there's levels to everything. There's levels, man, that's, I can't even think about. No. This is impossible.
Starting point is 01:37:14 Impossible. Okay. Death. Oh. Okay. So I got to dig into this situation. So the situation, like I want to understand the full context of you snitching or whatever this ended up being Right the situation that started it was you shooting somebody at a motel? No, no that's where people get a lot of shit
Starting point is 01:37:33 That don't have my case don't have shit to do with This snitching shit. It just happened while I was locked while I was locked up on my case that video was leaked Okay, so you got locked up for this thing shooting somebody at a motel. I was at a motel and our old chief, the nigga that used to run Palatine, he had ran off with our guns, our work, our money. He took off with a whole bunch of shit. So the folks were like, hey, you know, then I stepped in.
Starting point is 01:38:08 So like the leader of the game or the hood. Yeah. Okay. That faction. Rob, because we call them factions. The members. He robbed the members of the game because. Like, why would you do that?
Starting point is 01:38:18 Yeah, he's a co-ke head. Okay. He robbed the hood telling them like, oh, y'all want to basically take Buddha's side over everything. Because I was second seat. He was first seat. Oh, yeah. They were like, he was pissed off that a dyke was basically coming in and taking his spot. Were you going to take a spot?
Starting point is 01:38:35 I did take a spot. Oh, you did formally. That's when. This happened. No, he, they basically let him retire because he was older. He was in his 40s. They were like, you can retire type shit. Like, you've been an SGD for fucking ever.
Starting point is 01:38:49 Like, you're. can retire. All you want to do is be drunk, standing in the hood screaming. As high Paul. SG, remember? SGD. Like, go sit the fuck down somewhere. You got kids.
Starting point is 01:38:59 You got all the type of shit going on. Like, sit down. So he didn't like that too much. So one night he called and was like, hey, he called one of the little guys that lived in the hood. He was like, hey, I need a pipe. Can I go to the spot? We just have a spot where we'd have shit. He went.
Starting point is 01:39:13 He took everything. He took all the pipes we had for the hood, all the money and all the drugs. So I told the rest. of the SDs, I don't care if you guys let him retire or whatever the fuck you guys let him do when I catch him, he's getting treated like, ah, this is two years later, I'm at the hotel with some niggas from Kansas that came out for a feature and I was putting them up in the hotel because, you know, that's
Starting point is 01:39:36 the right thing to do. You got company from out of state where the hotel was, was all kings. It was a king neighborhood. So I was like, man, let me take y'all over here in case anything happens. Well, I'm going to dip off. Well, we're standing in the parking lot and here comes buddy walking with another runaway from the hood and got to talking crazy I went to walk up on him to fight him
Starting point is 01:39:56 he pulled out of 3 57 blew right past my face so I read one shot one shot boom I can't barely hear out this ear I was literally almost I was like right here he was right there when he blew right and he just shoots one shot at you don't usually people fire more than one shot
Starting point is 01:40:11 he was drunk he's so f***ed up he shot literally like toppled back a little bit while he's toppling back I'm not running towards him I ran towards my car. I grabbed my shit. I cocked it. I let off six shots. I hit him three times.
Starting point is 01:40:25 I hit the gun out of his hand. His elbow and collapsed his lung. He went to the hospital. I took off, obviously. He went to the hospital. He told him like, hey, she shot me because I'm not a gangbanger no more.
Starting point is 01:40:36 And she was trying to kill me. And they charged me to attempted murder. Wow. First degree, mind you, though, everyone says, I'm a snitch, I'm a snitch,
Starting point is 01:40:46 I'm a snitch. Okay? my whole wiretap video was from before this. If I worked for the state and I was a real life confidential informant, do you think that my bond for this, which is technically,
Starting point is 01:41:00 technically me defending myself? So it's a self-defense. It was all on camera and everything. Why would someone who works for the state of Illinois' bond be $1.25 million? The state would have came for me. So if you're an informant, they give you cheap bond?
Starting point is 01:41:15 They bond you out. Oh, they do. Okay. I've got paperwork on a lot of the SGDs who are claiming me to be a snitch. Bond sheets, eligible police department. At the end of those bond sheets, bond sheets are public records. You cannot really get paperwork nowadays because it's a discovery violation. What that's out there, that's a lawsuit.
Starting point is 01:41:35 I've got an ongoing lawsuit right now. That paperwork shit is illegal. You cannot have your discovery in the state of Illinois because of shit like this. It's fucking illegal. So there is. ways around it though you can pay attorneys off which i paid an attorney off which i will get to that and i also got the public record bond sheets that says this niggis's name what he was locked up for how much to bond him out and who came to bond them out eligible police department gang unit at the bottom
Starting point is 01:42:04 of their bond sheet that only happens when they come for you right they didn't come for me i sat fighting that bitch for three and a half years in cook county i never got a bond reduction i never got anything and nothing. While I was in the county, that wiretap video got leaked by another SGD who didn't like me, who's also a rapper. I don't know if you ever heard of Busy G.
Starting point is 01:42:26 When he comes home, I'm beating the fucking dog shot out his ass. Oh, I hope I got to interview with him before that. Please don't interview. He's going to think he's on one. I got to look into him anyway. Yeah. Crackhead. Okay. Well, you might. Well, he's not the worst thing. He's white.
Starting point is 01:42:40 He's a white rapper, so that might be interesting. It's kind of out of my alley. the wood pile. I think what was dude you just in, Little Wick is more gangster than him. CTS, Little Wicks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got a body.
Starting point is 01:42:51 Yeah, I like him. But anyway. Okay. Where did those wiretap video come from? What was that situation? Okay. When I was a sortie, like I told you, I've been gangbanging.
Starting point is 01:43:02 I've been SCD since 11 years old. I turned out SD, I got my ends at 11 years old from Bernard and Cullum, which is on the north side of Chicago. When I finally was taken away from my parents, they moved me
Starting point is 01:43:15 to Bartlett with my grandmother. DCFS stuck me with my grandma moved to Bartlett. Bartlett is right next to Elgin. I ended up,
Starting point is 01:43:25 you know, linking up with the Elgin SDs because the SDs from the city, they're all connected, used to be. So, boom, I'm kicking it with them.
Starting point is 01:43:34 My big homies like, yeah, they're going to help you out. They're going to luck out for you. Well, Elgin has a lot of black SGDs. Okay. I have a problem with black niggas being in a Spanish game because they all fold.
Starting point is 01:43:47 All of them. They all either are using the Spanish niggas to their advantage or they fold or they do some shit. Somewhere down the line, every black SGD that I've ever came in contact with has fucked me over something. A lot of them fuck my bitches. I let them sleep in my house. They fucking robbed me.
Starting point is 01:44:04 They did all types of shit. Anyways, I don't think that black niggas should be in a Spanish gang. Period. It's not me being racist because I just told you. much I love black but I don't think the black niggas should be in a Spanish gang
Starting point is 01:44:16 it's just I don't know but anyway being black in a gang that literally has Spanish in the name is definitely interesting confusing but there are black members in the Spanish gangs out here and I don't think any of it out here's a whole different culture I don't out here is way different
Starting point is 01:44:33 I don't know I don't know much about out here but yeah so long story short I started kicking with these guys I was 14 going on 15 this nigga hit me up his name was bone he's like hey i got pipes for sale you want to buy him i was thirsty was trigger happy trying to make a name for myself i'm hell yeah where you want to meet you oh okay well meet me in the elgin library parking lot bet i had this white girl fucking take me
Starting point is 01:44:57 pulled in dude hopped in the car gave me a home depot bag with the pipes in it hopped out soon as he hopped out who like 30 fucking squad cars whooped on us literally i went to jail i knew in my head, I'm like, hey, he set me up. He sent me up. He sent me up. He sent me up. Well, I'm telling all the folks like, hey, he sent me up. They're not listening. I'm writing these niggas because no one's coming to see me. I'm a juvenile. I'm sending them messages, whatever. Basically, they told me to go, fuck myself. Unless you got that paper with dude's name on it,
Starting point is 01:45:28 you're, you can't point that figure. I got violated twice for telling people this man was a snitch. They violated me. Long story short, I had to do juvenile life because no one would come get me. When you don't have a guardian or anything in the state of Illinois, I don't know how it is now. But if you go to IDOC, little IDOC, you have to max out until you're an adult if you're on a case. So I literally sat there from 15 to almost 19 years old until they maxed me out and I was old enough to be on my own type shit. Okay. So I did you with our life because of him.
Starting point is 01:46:03 So when I came home, I'm like, hey, I'm smoking this. We're just buying some guns? It wasn't supposed to be that because I don't have a guardian to come pick me up. the state of Illinois just keeps your ass there. Okay. So I did overly the amount of time. Got it. So I was pissed.
Starting point is 01:46:19 I hold grudge is very bad. That's my biggest. So you get out and you got nothing on your mind but this dude. I'm 19. But he's on good terms with the whole rest of your hood. Whole rest of everybody. Except for Kool-Aid and them, they were like, nah, he's a ho. Rico, everybody's like, no, he's a bitch.
Starting point is 01:46:36 We know you ain't lying. So this is the way it used to be in the mob. I could tell them all day long, like, hey, I'm going to do this and this and this and this and that to that, nigger. And this is what their response was. Well, unless you have the black and white, which these are all niggas that grew up in the 80s and 90s where you could get paperwork. Right. As of like 2007, you can't get paperwork no more in Illinois. So they're all like living off the old ways.
Starting point is 01:46:59 You know what I'm saying? They're like, well, if you touch him or do anything to him, then we're coming after you and your family and your loved ones or whatever. That's what it's going to be. Wow. So I chalked it up and said, whatever. left it alone a couple years went by a nigga did some more shady shit
Starting point is 01:47:17 I left it alone the SDs were not listening to me they're like hey you know you dude he got me violated for some shit I forgot what the fucking was I got violated because of him so I just kept growing more and more hate for this nigga his brother my baby mama kept growing hate
Starting point is 01:47:33 for these people okay yeah I let him live in my house and while I was at work he was cracking my bitch wow yes so you let him live in your house I let him stay in my, a lot of the SDD. I let him live in my house too. The same guy that I did this to,
Starting point is 01:47:48 I've let live in my house. I fed these niggas, put clothes on their bag, all types of shit because these niggas are straight bums, and they fucking turned on me. Did you ever have a conversation? Like, why did you set me up? He swore to God he didn't. But I never, I never seen black and white.
Starting point is 01:48:04 No, it gets better. Right. Okay, this is years later. I went to the joint again for unlawful communication of a witness. I f*** up a witness. I did some crazy shit. I went to the joint, I came back out. This is when they gave me Palatine.
Starting point is 01:48:15 They're like, okay, we're going to give you P-Town, your own hood type shit. That's when I went to P-Town. When I went to P-Town, I hadn't caught a felony for like seven, eight years. I was about to be 28. I was like, man, I want to expunge my record so I can own shit.
Starting point is 01:48:29 I'm a barber. I like to cut hair. I was trying to get a business license. So they're like, you can't get this business license unless you expunge your record. So I'm still one foot in, one-foot-out type shit, but I'm still, I'm trying to do other shit, you feel me? I go down to the lawyer's office, and the lawyer is like, you want to look at over, I need
Starting point is 01:48:48 just signs some paperwork, whatever, he's in the process of doing my, whatever. I see the black and white of my juvenile case of dude's name, Lavel Franklin. Whoa, the whole fucking, I'm, I'm like this, stuck reading it. My bitch at the time, smart-ass bitch, goes to pull out her phone and take it, dude, snatches it. Like, I'm going to have to ask you guys to leave type shit. And I'm like, man, I'll pay you. I pulled out three vans on his ass.
Starting point is 01:49:18 This, you could have it. He's like, I'll lose my bar. Like all types of shit. He was like, nah, I can't do it type shit. So I left out of there and I called my hood. I'm like, hey, I'm smoking him. We're going to go to war with every other SGD because he was liked. He was like, there's like 15 SDD hoods all throughout Illinois,
Starting point is 01:49:36 Texas, Indiana. There's a lot of SDDs. they're like, I'm like, we're going to go to war with all of them. So I was like not given a fuck that the rest of my hood was going to go to war with these things. I didn't care. Then I thought about it a little bit. I was like, okay, well, it's either going to be this. Either I'm going to set his ass up like he did to me.
Starting point is 01:49:57 I'm going to get him the fuck out of the way. He going to see what the fuck. You know what I'm saying? Or we're going to go to war with what? They were like, whatever. My whole hood was with the shits. This is what really fucked me up. My hood's separated now.
Starting point is 01:50:10 Half of them fuck with me. Half of them are like, oh, you're a snitch. Well, the ones that are like, oh, you're a snitch, knew what I was going to do. So you're a snitch too, technically, right? All you little niggas from my hood
Starting point is 01:50:21 that were like, oh, yeah, set his ass up, get him out the way, do whatever fuck you got to do. We don't give a fuck. We're writing with you. Oh, because you thought it would never hit the fan. Well, I didn't either. Just like it didn't hit the fan for him, right? No one believed it was my word against his,
Starting point is 01:50:35 his word against mine. That's what I was on. These little niggas all right now, want to point the finger and be like, he's a snitch, he's a snitch. You all knew what I was on. Kool-Aid. All you niggas knew what the fuck I was on. Kool-Aid was my right hand.
Starting point is 01:50:54 He knew what the fuck was going to happen. Right. You bitch-ass nigger are letting all these people go at me and treat me on the internet and whatever, tarnish my name and all the type of crazy shit. But you was right there with me. What do you think happened? They just, like, kind of caves to the social. pressure. Yes. They're
Starting point is 01:51:12 policies. See, if it was the other way around, if one of my niggins, if this nigga went and told on Jesus Christ himself, I've been through so much with him and he's done a lot of a lot of shit. This nigga is crazy as
Starting point is 01:51:27 oh yeah. Anyway, I don't give up what he did. He didn't do it to me. I don't care. That's how I look at it. If you're my brother, you're my brother. I'm a ride for you regardless. I don't give a fuck. Okay. I had to have had a good reason for what the fuck you did. That mentality, though,
Starting point is 01:51:42 I've had that mentality many times in my life. Like, oh, he's sliming out all these people doing all this grimy shit, but he's always been solid to me. You almost always end up feeling like, damn, why did I not think that was going to happen to me? Not saying that he would do that, but in general, quite often you have that experience.
Starting point is 01:51:58 I'm sure you've had that experience as well. No. Where somebody is robbing a bunch of people, you're cool with them, and then at some point you get robbed. No. Really? Okay. No. Maybe you're just the solid.
Starting point is 01:52:10 I don't know. I think I am when I don't I don't like to be like to be like oh I'm a real nigga but I am realer the most. If you in every hood and every mob and every everything nine either eight or nine out of ten niggas is telling doing some type of shit towards one of his brothers fucking his bitch behind his back doing plotting on him something I've seen it all so many times like and it's in every neighborhood so for all these niggins but guess what the niggas will still kick it so who are you to call the next motherfucker a snitch a bitch or whatever the gee you're you're you're invalid you're not valid to me you're realer to me if you're like damn you know what i'm saying okay you snitched on him but he sneaked you out before he robbed you
Starting point is 01:53:09 but and later on you had a chance to get out of some shit and you told on him I'll be like okay to me that's just fine because he snaked you to fuck out and robbed your ass right after you were taking his ass in you know what I'm saying there's so many parts of the gang shit it's like permanently illogical like the fact that you know you just can't tell even if somebody told on you that's crazy to me yeah now but they would respect you if you just killed the guy maybe not your gang right and went to jail for the rest of your life. Yeah. They will respect you more and they'll only respect you while you're in their face and then
Starting point is 01:53:45 you'll be forgot about. You will be forgotten. Period. There's so many niggas right now that are so righteous in the mob and I can only, I, on my GTL, I talk to like 20 niggas that are doing 25 and up. My homie, CK at 15 years old, dropped the nigger in broad daylight on, on, I can't, uh, was it fucking no I don't know I don't remember he dropped
Starting point is 01:54:13 the nigga in Broadde Cicero and Belmont Cicero and Belmont dropped the nigga Broad Day for the hood killed this nigga Rambo and no one writes him No one writes him no one sends him money No one nothing iguana from Drake and Ainsley Drop two kings nobody writes him Nobody nothing nobody and guess what these niggas are telling me in here
Starting point is 01:54:36 Gee I fucking hate the mob. I hate the SGDs. I hate. And these are niggas that were solid. These are niggas that it could could have done body for body. It's just so easy for them to sort of just forget about the thing. Everything is just by. That's where I, I'll give the kings their props there. A lot of the kings take care of their niggas that are locked up. A lot of them. The folks, nah. And that's like the amazing thing to see with the street shit is like even the dude who killed young dolphin thought he was going to get 50k and you ended up getting 800 bucks it's like even though if you're a rich dude who fucking ordered this murder it's like even though any sane person would tell you like you're supposed
Starting point is 01:55:20 to pay him you're supposed to do everything possible to keep this dude happy right the temptation of saving 50 grand is still so strong that they'll still do that and like brick was telling me that of all the hits he's heard about throughout his whole life almost never does the person get the full amount. Yeah, no. We could talk about this for hours. We could talk about this for hours. The whole street politics are all f***. It's all I'm not saying if I could go back in time,
Starting point is 01:55:51 would I not be a gangbanger? No, because it taught me a lot. And would I ever go back and not be a snitch? Do I regret? Do I regret it tarnishing my street credit? No, because you want to know why? I don't fuck with the SGs. that aren't real anymore. I'm out the game. People want to be like, oh, why do you talk to her?
Starting point is 01:56:10 Why do you fuck for her or him? Whatever the fuck. They want to call him at that point in time. That f*** it, him, whatever. Right. Why do you fuck with him? Well, I'm not living their lifestyle no more. I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 01:56:23 Yeah, I rap. But am I trying to go and catch a hat every day? No. Am I standing on the block serving niggas? No. I'm not with all that. So guess what? If he's kicking it with me, guess what?
Starting point is 01:56:32 What am I going to tell on them for? Or not, I'll rob. people together. Like, am I going to tell he broke his diet? Like, what the fuck? I'm not living a street life.
Starting point is 01:56:42 Right. You know what I'm saying? So it really, man. So that dude, who you had the issues with, that guy you set up, did he end up getting locked up
Starting point is 01:56:53 for a long-ass time as a result of all this? No, because he was in a confidential informant. Oh, okay. He's still around. They came for him. All he's doing his own thing. I mean, he tells people left,
Starting point is 01:57:02 he's still trying to be a gang chief. Okay. He's older than me. He's got to be like 37 years old. And does he tell people not to fuck with you? Yeah. Do you run into him ever? No.
Starting point is 01:57:11 No. Never seen him. Not one time. He knows what I live. He knows where I live. Really? If you really, if you were really wanting to smoke me like you're telling people or he knows where I work.
Starting point is 01:57:23 It was posted all over the internet. Knows where I live or swears he knows where I live. I don't know. He don't live far from me. Say he lives in Freeport. So Rockford's right around the board. But your level of race. is not enough to really do something about it.
Starting point is 01:57:37 I mean, if he came at me, then it's going to be that. Yeah, of course. But am I going to go looking for him? No, I got my get back. Right. Clearly, I got my get back. Did you do any jail time for it? No.
Starting point is 01:57:49 Right. Absolutely not. You did no time. You were locked up. He was locked up on another case. But why would they have you set up somebody who was already an informant? Or did he become? He became, no, he was doing shit behind.
Starting point is 01:58:03 This is how he got away with a lot of shit. he set me up. I'm a female. Other niggas that he were setting up weren't part of the SDD mom. He was sent up like vice lords, four corner hustlers, niggas that couldn't be like
Starting point is 01:58:14 go and tell the folks like, hey, he's tricking on me because what one of the guys is going to listen to one of the ops and be like, dude's tricking on me. He was doing business with the ops and basically collecting a check off of it. He was making a fucking living off of it.
Starting point is 01:58:30 Right. We were wondering like how the fuck did they all of a sudden, how did he get, And he's not the only one. There was like three of him. Him, his brother, no. His brother's a savage.
Starting point is 01:58:39 I'll give him that. His brother really about that life. He's a bitch. The other black nigga, he'd be chilling with straight bitch. They set niggas up that aren't in their mob. Uh-huh. That aren't in the Spanish mob. Right.
Starting point is 01:58:56 They're setting up other black niggas, foes, stones, whatever. And they're getting away with it. I mean, I've heard that, like, the car. are all telling on each other. Yeah. So it's, it couldn't be that surprising for like a bunch of gang members
Starting point is 01:59:10 to be telling on other gangs, right? Back in the day, it was like, you, you would never hear about tricking when it came to the cartel. What are they, they're beheading,
Starting point is 01:59:20 niggins. They're, you're seeing, uh, muff, it's hung from fucking street signs in, in Mexico because of that shit.
Starting point is 01:59:29 That's like, no more. This generation is like, there's, that whole trick. Like I said, there's levels. People are really going by those levels now. Like, oh, well, he,
Starting point is 01:59:41 like right now, I'm justified. I feel like I'm justifying what the fuck I did. Back in the day, I would have been like, oh, no, what's the what? You know what I'm saying? But I don't know. I mean, it's got to be crazy to look back on it and be like, damn, I threw away a huge chunk of my life for some shit that I thought was one thing.
Starting point is 02:00:04 and then I got this reality check that actually this shit is all kind of fake. Yeah. I threw off a whole chunk I threw away my whole life. Still to this day, people are like, oh, he's SGD. He's, he's, uh,
Starting point is 02:00:20 well, I rather than think I'm an SGD than a fucking Latin king because they think I flip Latin king because there's a crown on my face. The crown was put on my face because my bitch loves Moneybag yo. So I got fucking the Rolex crown like him. I was swagger jacky.
Starting point is 02:00:34 Wait, so, oh, wait, they thought you were... When I was in a joint, it, like, surfaced this crown right here is a Rolex crown. Okay. They were, like, automatically, because because I don't game being anymore, I was like, okay, I could put that on my face. It doesn't matter. I don't give a fuck, I'm not part of shit. But, like, in your world, that's got to be, like, one of the most common gang symbols, right? A crown?
Starting point is 02:00:56 Yeah. Hell yeah. Okay. So when I put it on my face, of course, these dumb, fucking retarded motherfuckers are standing on the block all day. were like, oh my God, he's a king now. No, I ain't fucking king. First off, I'm in a woman's joint. What kings are going to flip me in there?
Starting point is 02:01:13 Like, there's one actual king locked up in the joint right now. Okay. And she was from Crowntown. She was a stud. And she smoked a 15-year-old when she was like 19 or some shit. Wow. Yeah. That was like a big, a big, they like burned them, tied him to a tree,
Starting point is 02:01:32 shot him. Like, it was crazy back in the day. It was like 2007 or eight. It was all over the news. It's crazy because like if you try to find examples of like well-known gang members, like female gang members who killed people and shit, it's like pretty fucking tough. It's like a very short list. Shout out Jackie Monanis. What's their name? Keefei, not Kifi D, but Loka D. Yeah, Jackie. Oh, that's her. Yeah, I was like, I've been locked. That's my Titi. Really? Yeah, that's my girl's friend. Wow. I knew her all her rapies.
Starting point is 02:02:02 Yeah. Wow. She used to be wild back in the day. She's out now. So you got into fights in jail because of people calling you a snitch? Yeah. It used to be when I first, when the video first went out, I was actually in SEG, confused as hell. Because this bitch was like, man, you're a trick-ass bitch and kept saying it.
Starting point is 02:02:22 And we ended up getting into it. And I ended up fucking their ass up. And they took me to SEG. Well, like 20. It was like 24 hours later. They came internal affairs. They're like, hey, are you okay? And I'm like, what do you fucking mean?
Starting point is 02:02:34 Am I? Okay, well, I'm insane. What? They're like, well, you're going viral on the internet right now. And I'm like, what? They're like, yeah, you're all your body cam videos all over the internet right now. I'm like, what? And you can't even look at it.
Starting point is 02:02:48 No, they took me down and they showed me. Oh, really? The investigators in the county, they took me down. And what, which is funny, when they, when they take you down to the investigation office, the gang room with all the gang stuff and you see other niggas down there, they're all telling. I can point out hell of niggas
Starting point is 02:03:05 from these mobs out here that were down there eating good sandwiches and Popeyes and all types of shit all y'all niggas telling. And it's been like that. If the investigators are grabbing you,
Starting point is 02:03:17 you're telling. You're telling or you're being charged with something? That's the only time an investigator in Cook County Jail is going to grab you. Okay. They want to know something
Starting point is 02:03:24 anytime. But yeah, fuck. They showed me the video and I didn't go lie. I cried. I was like, my life is over.
Starting point is 02:03:32 Like, the folks are going to kill me. And from that day on, they administrative PCed me for a minute. I had to fight to get out of PC. I had to fight left and right because they would not take me out of PC for that. But you said there's no women's PC, right? Yeah, there is. Oh, there is. And who's in it?
Starting point is 02:03:51 People want to go there with their girlfriend. Really? Like, if they get separated and they need to make it back to each other, they'll go to PC because they have to be together in PC. Really? That's the only time you'll see anyone. PC. Really? Yes. Unless they're administrative PC, which a lot of high profile cases will
Starting point is 02:04:07 come in administrative PC, but you'll eventually get out of there and you'll go back to Gen Pop. Right. So you won't stay in PC. So somebody popping gets the rest of that they got to go to PC but other than that, it's not really sneez-in-shut. If I were to get locked up right now with the buzz
Starting point is 02:04:23 that's going on with me, they'll put me in PC. Really? But I'll have the option to sign the fuck out of there. Yeah. Like I don't have to stay there. like, Dirk stayed there. Like, who told you that? The CEOs. Really?
Starting point is 02:04:38 Yeah, they gossip. See, the CEOs that work in male divisions, Division 11 is really bad. It's max. Division 9, 6. They'll come, they'll work all day with the guys, and then they'll do like their overtime with us.
Starting point is 02:04:51 So they'll get the option. Like, hey, you want to work another 12-hour shift? And they'll come be by us and they'll gossip. They'll tell us everything. Like, oh, we got, we got Little Dirk. and PC we got man who was in there
Starting point is 02:05:04 I mean I had famous decks in there one time and they were clowning the fuck out of him let's be real famous decks or a little dirk they should be separated from the other fucking prisoners right not if you're so fucking gangster but dude dirk is just so famous and so
Starting point is 02:05:21 rich now this was like back in the day this is like 2016 and it's still a pretty big name but yeah yeah but I know a lot of bigger names that go and they don't PC really so what's the difference yeah
Starting point is 02:05:36 I mean I can't blame them but I can definitely understand that some people I mean yeah I mean now with the life I live now do I want to deal with a whole bunch of niggas like trying to be either fans or trying to fight no
Starting point is 02:05:51 so now I can see like oh if I got locked if I was a nigga in the nigger I would want to avoid being in PC just because I feel like I got if I get locked up even if it's for a few days or a week It's like, I can't come back with no stories. And I can't have my stories be like, yeah, I was eating lunch with this fucking child molester. Right, because that's all that's in PC.
Starting point is 02:06:09 Child, child molesters, if you, oh, remember the greens. You were just in there, the green suits. If I go with that, a nigga in a green suit. If I even get one fade. You see how Lilj's in a green suit. If I get one fade, I'm lit forever. Hey, you watch the videos. Lil J's wearing a green suit.
Starting point is 02:06:24 What's that mean? It either means. You drank too much green. Oh. You're a fucking tranny, whatever. Or you got a sex crime. Okay? So, and you know what they do?
Starting point is 02:06:35 I worked laundry. Dumb niggas are so disgusting. They'll cut a hole. It's a one piece. They'll cut a hole in the front so they can pop their dick out and there'll be holes in the back where the butt is. So you can just get a quickie in. Yep. Wow.
Starting point is 02:06:49 You can just shove it right in. I am I lying. That's facts. Wait, but so you're saying that you're saying that little jay, so it's the green outfit. I'm not saying he, I don't know what it is. But if it's either you're trans, we know he's not trans, or you have a sex crime. They'll give you a sex crime. If you pull out your dick in front of a CO, they'll give you a sex crime. This is internal. He's probably done way worse than that. They'll give you, if they catch you fucking another, another inmate,
Starting point is 02:07:20 you're getting in their green suit. Wow. And it's considered a sex crime for you fucking the other inmate. So him having that green suit automatically means he was fucking another inmate because you don't have a sex crime. Bill J. probably having so much fun in there. If that's what he's into, then, yeah, he's having a blast because I was into pussy and I had a blast. Would you do a song with him?
Starting point is 02:07:40 Probably. That would be fire. We can be like, uh, give me called LGBT. Call the song that. I'll hop on it. You'll hop on.
Starting point is 02:07:53 No, I want to do a cipher with all of them. Butter, Lill J, all the hated ones. But it's going to be. because nobody's going to want to be next to the other guy. Exactly. Which is fuck.
Starting point is 02:08:05 Because how can you... How can you be like, no, but you are doing your own shit? Yeah. That's like, how can I hate them, but I did what I did? No, I'm with it. What's up? What's how I do? You could have...
Starting point is 02:08:21 Okay, and then what? You just did six years. That was for what exactly? That was for the... They dropped the attempted murder because when they went to give me... me what they were going to give me 17 years is what I was going to take for shooting this guy yeah even though those footage that basically made it seem like self-defense yes my car was lit up because you went back to the car there was bullets in my car like it was literally a self-defense case but it wasn't
Starting point is 02:08:45 because you went back to the car when you could have just got in the car and drove away you know how my car was parked my attorney fought it tooth and nail and then when my bitch left me my bitch I was with left me while I was in jail took off with all the money all my clothes shoes anything I ever owned, she kept. Really? Yes. My Ralee, before I got locked up, everything I ever had, she took everything. My cars, everything.
Starting point is 02:09:10 I had a straight aid. I had fucking two beamers, like an Acura, like she took everything. Fuck that bitch. A bitch, I was with for 12 years on and off. I was locked up six months. She was gone. Okay? Didn't even, she paid my lawyer, what, five or six grand and took off.
Starting point is 02:09:26 I had 50-something K in the bank when I got locked down. So your lawyer? or stopped representing you or stopped representing you? Did a bad job? And you know what happened? Let me tell you this. This is how God works.
Starting point is 02:09:37 Okay? I didn't believe in God until this. Because I thought, well, my life has been fucked from the jump. How is there a God? You know, feel bad for myself. Way, my way. Sitting in a cell like, how the fuck?
Starting point is 02:09:48 I met a bitch in jail. I was with her for a year. She ended up getting out. COVID happened. We started scamming. I was doing everybody's unemployment in that bitch. I was doing everybody.
Starting point is 02:10:00 Everybody's unemployment. Unemployment back pay was like 20K, a person. I was like, hey, I got seven grand for you. I'll do your unemployment. I was pocketing the rest. I was on the phone with her. She was doing everybody's shit over the phone. She was getting the money, putting the seven grand on their books, and we were keeping the rest.
Starting point is 02:10:13 We stacked up enough for her to pay a $50,000 attorney for me. And then on top of that, put away $15 grand for me. Right. And then she left me for a cop. Wow. Yeah. How'd she meet the cop? There was a CEO that was locked up with us.
Starting point is 02:10:29 She met him through. going to jail to see you. She met her. It was a dyke. Oh, yeah. She left me for a dyke CEO that is now CPD. Wow. But she did her part. She got me my attorney when I needed it. So I give her props for that. Shout out Jojo. Thanks for breaking my heart. So no ill will? You're not angry about it? I mean, I can't tell her to stop her life, but I mean, I could be angry at dude because dude acted like my homie. When I was in jail, the dyke acted like she really gave a fuck, like, leave me the fuck alone. She,
Starting point is 02:11:00 really gave a would bring me like little men's shit into the county, boxers. A little shit like that that they're not supposed to do. So I thought that was like a real genuine friend that gave a fuck about my situation. Nah, you were just trying to get him my bitch. Wow. And that happened later on.
Starting point is 02:11:16 That's fucking crazy. But the way it works though in the county, uh, where I deal, or not IDOC with the state's attorneys is right before you're going to take time on a case, they'll contact the the, not the witness, the whatever the fuck, and be like, hey, you know, we're about to give them this amount of time, are you okay with it? And they could be like, no, or they could be,
Starting point is 02:11:39 when they went to contact him, they couldn't find him. So my attorney came and was like, hey, they can't find him. So we're going to take his trial because he can't point you out if they can't find him because there was where he was in Mexico, which he was. Even though he made a long-ass statement, like this is, this nigga did it. he still has to repeat all that in a trial. So my attorney was like, hey, we got them. Like, you're going to beat this shit.
Starting point is 02:12:05 So then they gave me low numbers. Then they're like, okay, well, we'll give her 10 if she cops out right now. He's like, hell, no, we're taking the trial. Then they were like six. Or no, they were like eight. He was like, they were like seven. I'm like, okay, where do I sign? Because I'd already done four almost.
Starting point is 02:12:20 So I'm like, all right, bet. Cool. You'd be out very soon, right? So I signed and I People will be like oh You tricked That's why you got that low of time No they dropped it to aggregate battery
Starting point is 02:12:31 Because they couldn't find his ass He couldn't come to court on me And that's why I got dropped down Every nigga that's been locked up in a county He knows that's facts They have to contact The person you did the crime on To let them know like
Starting point is 02:12:44 Hey this is what we're giving them I was gonna take 18 years And because they couldn't find them I ended up getting seven Right That's why Wow And you've been free for how long
Starting point is 02:12:54 about to be five months five months and has it been all right like getting back to normal life or it sucks no it's hard it's hard as
Starting point is 02:13:03 what's the hardest part just financial or financial yeah with all these people or what I could care less about the beef
Starting point is 02:13:09 I don't know I read the comments it's funny I laugh at everything I laugh at you I love the one of the beer
Starting point is 02:13:21 yeah she told her something right I mean, the beard is crazy. Yeah. The beard is coming back. I just shaved it off like a month ago. So it was bigger. I only had right here.
Starting point is 02:13:33 Oh, yeah, this was. I mean, it's very impressive. Thank you. The testosterone is really doing its thing. Try. Is there anything else like cosmetic that you would do as part of the transition? Yeah, I'm getting top surgery. Really?
Starting point is 02:13:50 I have to schedule it. Yeah, they're going to take these breastplate. Yeah. Hooters. These are my brusicles. Let's call them all these funny things. Are you wearing like something like flatten? It's a chest bun.
Starting point is 02:14:02 I wear a bra. And the titty, you just hate these tities. It's actually very uncomfortable. You hate them. Hate them. It's the worst thing ever you. You look at yourself in the mirror,
Starting point is 02:14:11 you just feel like, oh, wow. It's in it, and it really pisses me off because when I do go to the gym and I do work out, it like, I bulk. Like, this is,
Starting point is 02:14:22 I haven't worked out since I've been home. When I was in the joint, I was a cocked diesel marker, but these get in the way. Like, I can't buff my chest because these fucking things are here. Honestly, the best part that I remember of being on testosterone is just how fucking good your workouts are. Yeah. You just feel so, oh, yeah. It's the best.
Starting point is 02:14:42 Yep. God damn. Do you feel like the snitching stuff is kind of ruins the chance of your music working in the long run? Or where does that stand? No, I feel like the way YouTube is set up right now is ruining my chance of music. Really? Because if people were to really hear like my newer shit, they would be like, oh, okay. Because the people that have heard it, there isn't no comments about me being a snitch
Starting point is 02:15:10 under those videos. They're like, oh, shit, this is some heat. Like, this is raw. This is this. This is that. This, that, and the third. Maybe we should do a record together. Get you back in that algorithm.
Starting point is 02:15:20 Let's get it. I'm not fucking around. We might have to do it. We might. Hmm What? 22 in Buda G That's crazy
Starting point is 02:15:32 First bar 22 in Buda G What But you're gonna be dissing all kinds of people I'm gonna have people With the Latin Kings by the time we're done See that's what I don't do anymore I don't dis anyone by name
Starting point is 02:15:44 I'm not like talking about smoking on Nobody's dead homies Like I'm not I may talk about having guns And doing shit But it's never Pointed at anyone That's probably good.
Starting point is 02:15:56 That's a difference between me and a lot of these other Chicago rappers. Like, they'll mention so-and-so from this hood, from that hood, from this hood. I've got entirely too many people talking shit about me to name everybody. Nor am I going to give them enough attention. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And I'm also not going to rap about anything I haven't done before or actually have,
Starting point is 02:16:21 like if I talk about, oh, F and N, this and that. That's because I used to carry an F and N. Like I have shot one These other niggas be like ARP You've never even used an ARP in your life It seems like a lot of people just kind of look through a gun catalog Yeah it's like they read the gun catalog Or they fucking I don't know
Starting point is 02:16:38 But I just I remember an error That's me aside from the There's like a time period where I really started to feel like that Where everybody's talking about a cooling kit And the fuck yeah yeah The shell catchers And I'm like it really seems like you just looked up
Starting point is 02:16:52 Like all the accessories No cooler kit that was from before. Okay. Now it's shell catcher, ARP, switch. 762s. 762s. Micro Drake.
Starting point is 02:17:06 Yeah, the microtrake. Yeah, the microtrake. I had a micro Drake that I love. On the song, I'll say something about I got the micro Drake. She got the micro penis. It could be saying that. Sorry. You like it?
Starting point is 02:17:20 He's on board. The micro penis. Not the micro penis Micropinus is real I mean that's crazy I wonder how many bitches would want to see my micro penis after I'm gonna just opt out So you consider yourself a bitch
Starting point is 02:17:42 You just said that I'm a Peter gazing Oh you're a Peter gazinger So you be I got a favorite thing is Me and my girl have like totally normal conversations about male porn stars and where we talk about their
Starting point is 02:17:55 like his dick is like this oh his dick is like he got that kind of dick you know it's like me and my bitch in jail we conversate about other women's vaginas so it's
Starting point is 02:18:05 I feel you because my bitch gets off she'll get off to me fucking another bitch she'll be like we've done it in the joint together
Starting point is 02:18:14 I've fucking strapped the bitch and she'd be like yeah my man right suck his right she gets off to that she likes that shit you know what I'm saying So I see where your relationship's kind of like mine.
Starting point is 02:18:27 I mean, for us, it's just business. It's just work. You know, so it's like we got to be able to talk about. Well, that's not work for us. That's fun. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That passed the time.
Starting point is 02:18:35 I guess it's part fun. You have a lot of fun, bro. But there's been very few times where I've been like, oh, that girl today, her vagina was like this. Like, I don't know. We don't really talk about it. Over tea and crumpets. Hey, babe, pay, pass a coffee. Yeah, you know, that vagina today, it looked a little loose.
Starting point is 02:18:50 Well, maybe if there's something out of ordinary. What's, what? What, okay, you've seen probably more than I have ever, being a porn star, whatever. What is the ideal he's supposed to look like? Because I've heard this rumor that the lips, if the lips
Starting point is 02:19:10 look like a little roast beef looking, they'll say like, oh, that bitch been ran through. But I know girls that- Stupid, right? I know girls that have not been ran through at all, and they have beef curtains. And I'd be like, and they're-
Starting point is 02:19:24 that your labia is going to get bigger. That's not how that works. No, because you're not going to know if their pussy's loose until you put your dick in. Really, really, really, really ran through horrors that I've stuck my fingers in, and they've been tighter than most. Right. So it's back. It's mostly a genetic thing.
Starting point is 02:19:40 Yeah. Yeah. I know a lot of girls that are so insecure and want to get their pussies done now because the world is telling you that these beef currants are because you have too much sex. I was going to ask if you knew about that. But yeah, the girls get like their pussy lips. Yeah, they get them trimmed. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:19:57 I never think about that. My ex thought her pussy lips were two whatever, but you're a lesbian. Yeah. You, you've one guy your whole life. That's it. You're 30-something years old. You're a lesbian. That I, where do you get off thinking that you need your pussy?
Starting point is 02:20:14 When I was like 21, I was dating a girl that was 19 and she thought that she needed to get her pussy lips trimmed up. And now, I'm going to be real with you. she definitely had an extroverted vagina them sheds did hang but man who the fuck cares you're a normal girl right now I'm in the porn world where I hear the girls get this done all the time
Starting point is 02:20:34 although to be real like I can't detect it I have no idea I think it's more of like a girl thinking that about themselves versus a nigger I'm not gonna be like damn your psalips are bogus I'm not fucking you yeah bitch from your legs and I know dudes who love the loose hanging vagina I like it yeah
Starting point is 02:20:52 something to suck on. I like, like, I'm not against it at all. Like, what the fuck? Yeah. No, I just don't. I never understood that. Yeah. I got to get my...
Starting point is 02:21:02 I'm a pussy fan. I like all types of vaginas. I'm gonna get my pussy doing my God now. Yeah, that's some weird shit. Yeah. Jesus Christ. We could keep going, but I feel like this is just such a perfect interview. No, just treat me like butter and have me come like 30 different times.
Starting point is 02:21:18 I like it. That's a good idea. Well, next time we've got to do the burst. Oh, yeah. Now, I want to go on the roof and everything like you did. Ooh. Yeah, it's got to be deep. Honestly, I'm not taking you on that roof because I'm too big, right?
Starting point is 02:21:30 I mean, even flaco on that. Flacco almost went through that fucking roof. Like, you can't tell it in the video? Never mind. I would have been like walking way different and like dancing way different if I had been able to. But we were having to like step on like the scene. What made you guys want to do on the roof? I just thought it would look cool if we did it on top of the store.
Starting point is 02:21:50 Where is your store? No, Rose. My nephew wants. the fucking no jumper hoodie. Yeah. By the fucking hoodie. That'd be great, yeah. You should head through it.
Starting point is 02:21:58 It's right next to awful lot of cops. Yeah, tomorrow. How many days are you guys here? Well, I'm not even supposed to be here, technically. Really? Well, you know millions of people are going to see this. Yeah, I know. The risk.
Starting point is 02:22:12 The risk I had to take. No, we're in Chicago right now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Offside. Hell, blah.
Starting point is 02:22:22 Oh, yeah. Boudiji, honestly, sickest interview ever. So hyped. This is fucking badass. I had no idea. And I'm not even high. And I stopped drinking hours ago. Really?
Starting point is 02:22:33 Yeah. You were drinking and then you stopped. I stopped. I feel like that's a bad recipe. Yeah. Like sobering up on camera is oftentimes not a great thing. But you said, though. You had a good interview, right?
Starting point is 02:22:45 Yeah, it was great. I just can't imagine. What are you drinking, any? No, I like whiskey. Okay. Yeah, Jack Daniel. Nice. white people's shit
Starting point is 02:22:53 no for sure I used to drink a lot of that before I converted to Henny you converted to blackness what's with all black dudes outside of your
Starting point is 02:23:01 stuff gee I pull up and they're like 30 of them and they're like hey yo and I'm like yo
Starting point is 02:23:07 it's whack 100 I'm like yo this this ain't that that was whack 100 and the Pekoaima Rooz
Starting point is 02:23:13 the who's the Pekoyma Pairoos what did you say you thought they were huh I thought they were paranoid about her? He thought they were grape street.
Starting point is 02:23:26 Nah. You know any grape streeters? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know nothing about it. Yeah. I think grape streeters. I mean, unless you like really knew, you wouldn't be able to tell. Because it's like nobody really wears their colors out here.
Starting point is 02:23:38 Yeah, I don't. I was just like, whoa, but man, bro. Pekoma is a city, like a random ass city in the valley up here. And then Pai Ruz, obviously, is a gang. But, I mean, he hangs out with like a bunch of random dudes who aren't in their gang and shit too but a bunch of them are what is he i don't even know who to that is wag 100 used to be like a crazy ass gangbanger and then he like transitioned into like managing artists and doing a bunch of business stuff he owns a diaper company he needs to manage me
Starting point is 02:24:06 that's what i need a manager yeah that's what i've never had my whole rap career i guess you can say management right one day i'm gonna get a manager because i don't have time to yeah i'm not gonna sit on something to yeah i'm not gonna sit on social media all day and push these videos, even if I think they're fucking raw as hell and the fucking song's good. Okay, cool. I know I can sound better than a lot of these
Starting point is 02:24:32 Chicago rappers out there that are making it. But I just don't have the patience to do all that. I don't. It's either it's going to take off on its own or not. No, you need somebody with a business mind to kind of hold shit down in the background. Maybe this interview will give me some exposure to someone that wants to invest. For sure. Maybe
Starting point is 02:24:52 Butta's team can just transfer to you while he's locked up. Well, I definitely rap a hell of a lot better than him. I'm not sure what his team is really. Did he have a team? He's coming in with like different people every time. Yeah, no. The niggas you see me would are the ones I started with. And that's like three.
Starting point is 02:25:09 Okay, you know what's perfect about the fact that Buddy just got locked up though, honestly, is that his interview, like when he came out, he was doing so many numbers on DJU and say cheese and all that shit. And then he does no jump, he gets like a million something dues and then it starts declining a bit because he kind of has like ran through a lot of those stories now he's locked up for a while
Starting point is 02:25:29 probably and now have another story he's going to be lit again but here's my thing obviously I would just rather for him to be free he's got this he's been telling the same story yeah so and he has no good music I don't think anyone who
Starting point is 02:25:47 watches his interviews really gives a shit that's what I'm saying so he's really just making money off interviews about his yeah so i'm like okay well i got shit what's up like i need to start shit but you know what's gonna happen is you're gonna get hit up by cam capone well actually i don't i don't say chees in that bucket because they kind of do the whole thing but i need to know there's a lot who's your op that you keep clowning who's this guy that win and fucking got their own podcast and it's not doing good because I'm dying. I'd be like, damn, folks got, white folks got his own ops.
Starting point is 02:26:30 There's a gay dude with one arm. He's gay. Yeah. With one arm. Yeah. So he can't hold any nigger from the back while he's his. He claim, I think he's a receiver. He's a bottom.
Starting point is 02:26:43 Oh, he's a bottom. Yeah, he's piped. Well, then he's all right. Yeah. Yeah. Was that like a partner of yours? Like, not partner. but like in your
Starting point is 02:26:52 profession here he was just like a co-host for a while yeah that's what I meant like yeah he had a lot of potential at one point so he just you over and just was like he faked himself over seems like it
Starting point is 02:27:06 I mean I don't know who he is he's he ain't interview with me I don't know he is I just like the fact that you be dissing him I don't even know what the fucking is it's funny it's just like I don't even Yeah, it's like I can't it's hard to like just give up on something that I think it's so funny
Starting point is 02:27:25 I'm just like this and some people that I don't get along with because it's like even when I try Not to eventually it's like they take a L or something they say something dumb and it's like God Just want to say something on my story and then that they they make content about me saying something about them And then all of a sudden it's like a million comments like why are you obsessed with them it's like I'm not obsessed with them I'm just laughing at some shit I don't know but you know is what it's yeah he'd be like I probably should just stop. No. It's funny.
Starting point is 02:27:55 No. But academics told me, he's like, you can't keep beefing with these losers. Like, you've got to beef with people that are actually relevant, you know?
Starting point is 02:28:02 It's kind of making you look like, yeah. This is all you do? I mean, like, me and academics and Vlad and shit have all kind of realized at certain points that it's basically pointless for us to have drama with each other
Starting point is 02:28:14 because it's like we're all kind of on the same level. Right. So like me beefing with creator that are even smaller. I mean, What's the point of that? That just glorifies them and boost them up, you know? Because he's probably out there like, well, no, jumper. He got a problem.
Starting point is 02:28:28 Like, that's probably his only angle. For sure. But then meanwhile, like, when act beefs with Meek Mill or Nikki Minaj or whatever, that's actually... Those are big people, though. Yeah, that blows him up. That actually, like, elevates his shit. What's that other nigga? Charlemagne, the guy.
Starting point is 02:28:43 Right. He's funny as hell. Yeah, he's good. He's funny. He's funny. He's the legend. He's been around forever, you know? Yeah, he's funny.
Starting point is 02:28:48 I didn't even know who he was. Someone told me. about him and then I look I'm like oh I've seen him before I just didn't know he kind of cleaned up his act he used to be like super crude and offensive yeah yeah and he's shit I watched from before he was an ignorant mother he's still good he's like everyone told everyone everyone told me they're like oh you're gonna go there and Adam's gonna try to troll you he's gonna talk shit this is not he hasn't said anything offensive I feel like we're friends now we're good we gotta do a song you can come my block let's go so
Starting point is 02:29:20 We slide. Sliding. Oh, that's a song that... There's a song. No, Slide was the song. Yeah. No, this one will be called Sliders. And it's about those little burgers that you get as an appetizer.
Starting point is 02:29:34 Oh, we can do that. Because I've been trying to make that pun. I've been trying to say something about the little burgers. I'm hungry. I'm a slider like them little burgers. Slider like those little burgers. I just want to say that on a song. You got a lot of punchlines.
Starting point is 02:29:49 I have many things built up in this. You got to go to the studio, though. Yeah, I should go right now, but I got to do some shit in the morning. Yeah, you fucking change the fucking time and date 30 times around here. Did we? Yes. I didn't even know that. Laura's out there.
Starting point is 02:30:04 Laura's got witchcraft. You're doing shit. I see. Oh, you and Laura might get along, actually. I'm going to keep you away from Laura. No, no. You and Laura. Oh, fun.
Starting point is 02:30:15 Oh, fun. Holy shit. amazing content if I never do another Chicago interview that's totally okay this was a great great way to send it off yeah a lot of your Chicago interviews are the same
Starting point is 02:30:32 1090 Jake got like 6 million views I don't see why this shouldn't get 6 million views 3090 Jake's a snitch right now that I heard it's a reach it's a reach yeah it's a bullshit he's a legend what's the other guy Boston Ritchie is he really snitchie
Starting point is 02:30:49 I mean, you're naming people that I like and that I have cool relationships with. I like Watson Ritch's music. Yeah. Help me. I've seen a handful of people. Adam, can you help me? Make it through the allegations pretty well, you know? I don't even know what Gunner did.
Starting point is 02:31:05 I don't, I really just don't follow none of it. I don't. I'll get on. I'll watch a few reals. You just talked about Charlotte, man. Like, this is just some random guy that you just found out about. I did not know. That's a lot about how much attention did.
Starting point is 02:31:19 Because if I sat on the internet all day long, I'd drive myself crazy. Yeah. I like that. That's why you have such a good personality because you're really out here doing shit. Yeah. All right. Buttigee. Thank you so much.
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