No Jumper - C Stunna on Blowing Up out of Florida, Linking with Skrilla in Zombieland, Motion Music & More

Episode Date: July 1, 2025

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No Jumber. Coolest podcast on the world. And today we in here with C. Stunner, the pride of Florida. How are you doing, man? I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm in here.

I'm in here. I'm in LA right now. Yeah. What's going on? You're out here for some like BETT stuff? Yeah, I had too, like the media, BET, all that, you know, the rapper shit. Nice. How's that?

It's cool. It's good. You meet and all the people, connected with people, all that. Yeah. Welcome to the industry. That's what you got to do. Go rub shoulders. Yeah.

Shmoze it up. Yeah, that industry shit. You meet anybody that was like exciting? I met Herbo. I'd be fucking with herbal music. So I met Herbo. I met Herbo. And I met Ty Dollar Sign last night, bowling and shit.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You were bowling? Yeah, I'm a bowl. I bow for real. Oh, that's like something you've been doing for a while? Years. I got my own bowling ball and my name on it. Really?

Yeah. Wow, that's serious. I got, I'll be bowling with a brace on my wrist or all that. Oh, really? Well, it just like helps you do it properly? Yeah, I had broke my wrist two times and I was legit. For real, doing what? So when I was in fifth grade, some jet pushed me off the monkey bars.

Yo, that's basically how I broke my wrist when I was a kid, too. Like, my whole shit was hanging, like, broke right in a half. And then I had gotten to a car accident. I had my arm on the rest, and it was just a truck just, wow, and shattered my wrist. So I can't really do too much with my wrist like that. Whoa, shattering it is serious. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn, that's right.

I was like a couple years after I got pushed off the monkey bars. Wow, that's brutal. Yeah, yo bowling, like when I went to Atlanta with Little Woody, he fucking, he had, I forget if it was two or three, but he had three like lanes. It might have been two, like side by side and he's just going back and forth. That's how you practice. So he's competing against mad other people, but he's just doing it. But meanwhile, he's like not really good at it.

Like he's like, he's spending so much money. We take bowling serious. Like people have to bowling lad. I be thinking me and my dogs are going to fight because, you know, we a whole bunch of niggas just come in there 10, 15 deep. You guys get super loud, competing with each other. Money on the floor. All that shit.

It should be late. I just did a stream with neon. We was over there at the building alley. Yeah, yeah. I just did a stream with neon. He had came to my hood. How was that? That was lit.

I ain't going to lie. He came to the hood. Like, he was shooting dice with us. Really? Shooting dice. We played basketball. We ate when bowling, all that shit. Bro, cool as fuck.

That's dope. Yeah. Was it kind of weird seeing your neighborhood through somebody else's eyes? Yeah. When I'm watching it, all the people, it's everyday life for me. Right.

But I don't know. They just caught on that. just watching the video just like seeing that that's what we do every day so it's just like it was lit though for brother come out there no that's dope yeah because i mean fort myers like it's kind of a uncharted part of florida rap wise it's kind of like in between a lot of other stuff yeah we don't really got too much only person that really blew out the city was plaz oh he's from there okay yeah plies that's it but we don't got no labels no executives like all other cities we don't got no music groups of people we just got like screwing niggas out trying to give you some money real quick try to manage you

real quick say they know the industry and shit but see that's one thing i've kind of noticed about this like new florida generation that it feels like it's been coming around for the last couple years is that it's kind of like instead of just beefing with each other it's like you got a bunch of people from an area that isn't really known for producing as many rappers like it's it's more like certain cities but now there's like whole other parts of florida where it's just a lot of people kind coming together and there's a lot of good camaraderie and unity and I feel like you're part of that.

Yeah, hell yeah, yeah. We just, I don't know how it happened. That bit just happened naturally. We all just linked up. Right. And just got close and got cool to each other. It just happened like, I see, I shout out Lil Tyler, though.

Little Tyler, one of the main reasons that happened because the Tyler was cool with everybody and he brought everybody together. Really? Yeah, down there, everybody came together through Lil Tyler. But he's probably the youngest one too. And he's the youngest one. Yeah, so I met.

That's the first rapper I really met out of all us really on the Florida move with Tyler. And he brought me to the studio. And it's just like 10 Florida rappers in the studio all night, just recording songs. That's how I met everybody. That's dope. Because you're just like,

you're not really used to seeing that, like from like a Chicago perspective. It's like you could have five dudes on a song, but they're going to be like from the exact same area. It's not like in the Florida shit, it feels like that that, uh, coffee zone song really stood out to me of like,

damn, they got a big wave with a lot of energy. That was random as fuck. Yeah. Because I remember I asked, whiz about that because I didn't even know what a copy zone was the restaurant yeah coffee zone shout out coffee zone that's the best restaurant in Miami it just doesn't sound like something that's gonna be open till four in the morning it's open till four in the morning it's

coffee zone that's the best restaurant for you that that that that's all I do it was random as hell we were supposed to shoot something else I it was it was my son to go shoot something else with Tyler shim and whiz and then we was all like we can do something harder and then fucking Delo just walked in we didn't even know he was in the other room and then we just recorded the song, shot the video. That's dope. Yeah. I feel like the the motion music category that kind of lends itself

to this because it's a little bit more positive. It's not got all the crazy blood shit that a lot of music scenes kind of focus on, you know? There's motion music. We talk about getting money, getting fly fucking holes. That's what we talk about. Who's the first person you ever heard you use the term motion music though?

Motion. I don't know for real. It's really like Boston for real. But Really us for real, too, we really like stamped it, though. Like, when we draw motion remixed, like the song, motion, we really stamped it like motion for, like, motion music. When me, Shime and Whiz did the motion remix.

Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah, like, when I was watching your feature with Boston Ritchie and shit, I was thinking about that. I'm like, damn, he's basically like an OG at this point, because it's like, if you're a rapper coming out and you could even survive, like, a couple of years of your career, then you, like, seem very solidified.

And I feel like he's somebody who just kind of keeps surprising me coming with, like, hit songs over and over. It's like, as soon as you want to count him out, he just shows that he's got some more shit. Yeah, brother, be sliding. He'd be sliding, yeah, for sure. Definitely. So, okay, tell me a little bit about your childhood. You got both parents in the home? Yeah, I got both parents.

I grew with my mom and my dad. Okay. Yeah. And what was the family dynamic like? Were they real serious about school and everything like that? Yeah, yeah. Like, my dad, I come home with a bee, he'll be mad as fuck. Really?

Like, he's like, he got. to be you ain't doing nothing in school like he was like that and then my mama she wanted me in church a lot so it's just school in church school in church school in church school in church and then until i got to high school and i started mixing around with niggas and shit started mingling around i said it's just like that kind of like slowed down a little bit i stopped giving really like caring about school like i was smart but i ain't really i don't know i ain't like school like that really yeah yeah so you had your parents instilling it in you from day one but then as soon as you got a little taste you of freedom, you're like, man, this is really not what I want to be doing.

I started driving. I started moving around and stuff like that, slide and lying to them telling me where I'm going. I'll be saying, I'm going for going to go over here. I'm going somewhere a whole different. I don't even know that for years. Right. So, yeah, that's so I grew up with my parents.

It was just school and church, though, most of the time. What was their reaction when they started to realize that you weren't necessarily as focused on schools that wanted you to be? My part, they was mad as hell. My father's mad because he wanted me to be like a dog. or something like that's what he like he wanted me to be a doctor or some but he was mad as hell because I went to college for like a year and I dropped out I was like college is not for me it's just like studying all that stuff that shit ain't for me so you were still able to finish

high school yeah I graduated high school and then I did one year of college at fsw I passed all my classes all that final exam all that but I was just like it's school shit is not for me I had just started rapping at that time and I was like that school shit is not for me Yeah, but I mean, I feel like college is the one thing I can say is that it's like that environment of just meeting that many random girls and just being in the mix like that is pretty nice. Like once you enter into the real world, you just don't have this like assortment of random girls that you can just be around. Yeah, college though. My college are small as you. I was at a community college.

I was at a community college. That's she was small. So it wasn't really too much going on around. Okay. It's like some small shit in my city. Definitely. What do you think it was that like made you kind of? stop focusing on school because I talk to a lot of people and it's basically like yeah I started

smoking weed and then that was kind of the end I don't know I don't smoke I just okay I just thought I just never really fuck with school like that so I just thought I just said it just I ain't nothing I want to do and I know I ain't going to be using none of this stuff I ain't trying to be no doctor and I know I want to be a rapper so I just left I just started rapping but there's never anything in school that you were like you know what I find that interesting like that could be my thing if I chose. I don't know. I went to school to get fly.

I ain't going to lie. I just put on a fit. I know where I'm going to walk at where everybody's going to see my fit. I used to go to class. I used to just the teachers would be talking. I used to just get up and walk out. Really?

Yeah. So I used to be tripping. But it wasn't really nothing in school like that caught my eye. Like I wanted to. I remember that being a big thing in college was like, oh, I can just walk out. Walk out. I could just go to the bathroom and I don't have to ask like in high school. 10 minutes.

It was 10 minutes. 10 minutes in class. when I had 10 minutes here, I just get up and walk out. Right. And slide, I go to probably like, where everybody be chilling at in the cafeteria, or I go to the basketball court, I go try to mingle, and I'll shake it.

Yeah. Definitely. Were you the kind of kid who was getting in trouble and all that, or were you pulling us together? No, I'm smart. I try to avoid that. I ain't never been arrested, nothing in my life. I ain't never been arrested, nothing.

I'll be trying to avoid that. I think smart. Like, I know, okay, if I got this or doing this, I shouldn't be doing this to go to jail. You feel me? You know what I? So it's just like I just move a little bit smarter. Like I ain't trying to go to jail.

I got weapons. Like I'm free. I can do whatever I want. I got no probation, no nothing. So it's just like I'm glad I moved the way I do. Because I'm free for. Yeah. I mean, if you really look at what fucks up the career, so many rappers, it's like basically

legal issues. That's just so consistently what does it. I don't got to pay no lawyer fees. I don't got to get locked up. Nobody got to borrow me on. I'm not going to wet, though. No, but I mean, so many. rappers when you really look at it or just people that you know in general like when you really

look at what they got caught up for it's like driving around smoking weed with guns in the car that's what I'm saying they speed and like I got my little homeboy I got my little home boy I got my home boy Zay I be telling him like we gonna get there why is we going 120 on the highway we gonna get there because he's like cut this is a hard drive I'm like bro we're gonna go to jail yeah fuck around got into a chase with bro one time right it's just I be telling bro like bro we gonna get there like you know you know I'm saying so I'll be just trying to stay free, Brian. I'm saying. Pleas when you're a rapper and you go in, you fuck up the money for everybody else.

Yeah. It's not just, you just everybody else. You fucking up the money for it. And a lot of like young rappers don't really understand that like you kind of have this moment as a rapper and it's like if you get locked up for a couple months or whatever, that might just be right, just enough time for people to kind of move on. Like you got to really harness that moment

when you got that energy around you and people really paying attention, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. You got to. Even like thinking about high school, like, I knew people back then who would just be like listening to super loud music parked in their car rolling weed. And it was just like they would get caught up, get arrested, whatever. And I was just like, you could have avoided that pretty easily. A lot of shit could be avoidable.

Nika, just dumb. Yeah. That's all of the jazz. Definitely. So, okay, but when you were in school, like, what kind of kid would you describe yourself as? Were you a ladiesman or were you just more focused on music? No. Are you talking about college?

High school or college. I just wanted to get flying laugh. I'm joking. I just wanted to, like I said, same thing in college, same thing in high school. I put a fit on. I know exactly what time to walk through this bill. Everybody's going to see my fit. So I just come in and get fly, laugh, talk to females, that's it.

Right. Yeah. Were you an internet kid? Were you spending time online as well? No, I was already on internet kid. I probably had like Snapchat at that time, but that's it for real. I wasn't on internet kid. Definitely.

What kind of music do you remember being in your home growing up? Growing up. See, my brother had me listen to a lot of hot boys. That's why I'm my favorite rappers. I listen to a lot of hot boys, bird man, juvenile, weizi, all that type of stuff. Then you got like when I was a kid, like Bawa and stuff like that. So that's what I was going on in my house. A lot of little way and really.

So you were like a little kid looking at Bowowow and like really appreciating that young energy? Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah. Bauer was like, I had braids, all that. Yeah. I want to get headband and play basketball. I like Mike. That was my favorite move when I was a kid.

I had Bow Wow. Bawah had the streets and a choke for the little kid. That's crazy because I've seen somebody the other day on a podcast saying that Bawau was a bigger star than JZ was. And like to me that sounds insane because I am of the generation that did not listen to Bowow while and JZ. No, I'm too old. 41.

I don't think so. Like if I were to go back to like when Bowal came out, I guarantee I was like a teenager. I was probably just a little too old. Yeah. Like it just seemed too young for me. To me, Jay-Z is like a god. Like, that's like the ultimate rapper,

whereas you're probably a little young. My little Wayne. Yeah. Yeah. Because Jay-Z kind of got, like, Wayne was like the next best rapper after Jay-Z. I didn't really catch the Jay-Z weave like that. Yeah.

I don't know. I can't catch it. Yeah. And especially down south, too. Yeah, yeah. We didn't catch it down there. We'll listen to Little Wayne implies. Definitely.

Yeah. Yeah. But, okay. So, and then once you, so your parents were playing those rappers around you or you had to get into that yourself. My brother was playing that. dad played, my dad favorite rapper was El Koojee. Okay.

So that's, yeah, yeah. His favorite was El Koojee, like, and Bob Marley. So he'll play a lot of reggae music. So that's the two things my dad used to listen to El Kooja and Bob Marley. Right, definitely. So that's what I grew up on. Did you know anybody locally, though, who was, like, having success with music at all? Like, was there anybody that you kind of had as, like, a role model?

For music, like, my brother was rapping, but that was it, like, I ain't really, ain't nothing. I ain't like I say Nothing really going on out there in Fort Myers for it Right So I didn't really had no like example Like a star like somebody that blew up Only thing I seen was plies like okay he did it

But it was so long ago too Yeah it was a long time ago since they didn't really been nothing Right definitely How far was Miami driving from Fort Myers? It depends on who's driving It could be two hours and 30 minutes It could be an hour and 30 minutes Okay yeah

Depending on how much motion you got Depending on who's sliding That is not that far, though. I'm always, we're always back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. Right, yeah, because, like, are you guys, like, going out there when there's events and networking opportunities and shit like that? At first, though, when I first, like, started getting name and music, I used to just go out there, like, if a rapper posted a flyer, like, I'm shooting a video here, I'll push up. Yeah. And then I'll meet them, you know what I'm saying?

And then I get a relationship with them. Or if I see it's like a celebrity basketball game or something, I'll push up. Right. That's what I was doing, really, to get my name out there. So you kind of figured out the networking part of the puzzle early on. Yeah, yeah, you got to go mingle. You can't just sit down. And especially when you don't got nothing in your city, you got to leave.

So that's what I find out. Like, you just leave. Yeah, because that's, I was watching another interview clip with you and you were talking about that and just kind of talking about different video shoots as being like pretty important times where you meet people or cause connections or whatever. And when you really like, if you're in an area that doesn't have a ton going on, that shit's probably like super important. That's how I met down there everybody. That's how I met L Tyler. He posted a fly. He had a video shoot.

I pushed up. Definitely. Yeah, I mean, my brother just hit the road. Just fuck it. And we slid. Was there a moment where your brother kind of realized that you had real talent rapping wise and that this could be a thing? I mean, I've been rapping since a kid.

I always knew how to freestyle stuff and rap. But I don't think until I got older and I, the motion came out here. Like, okay, for sure. It's like it could be something. But I never want to be no rapper. Growing up as a kid, I never really wanted to be a rapper.

And then when I got out of high school, somebody told me just go to the studio. My dog said, my dog, Big Zoh, is like, bro, you be sly and just, I'm going to book you a session, book a session. I just came and I started rapping. Definitely. How do you think you, like, discovered your sound? Was there a certain song or a certain moment where you kind of figured it out? Yeah, it's when I first started a free. It's a song called Stunner on the beat.

It's the first song I just went and punched in and freestyle there. And I was like, okay, this rap started getting easy. and I started punching in and then my sound just came about over time like some years for real just rapping all the time Why do you feel like you were kind of overthinking it at first Or rapping too much? Yeah, I was I don't know

I used to just be overthinking it for real And I just went to start to cut the beat on I just started rapping And that was one of my first biggest songs Stunned on the beat side I was like okay So it just got easy after that Right

So you were just putting stuff online Like when did you first start to have a song That really was connecting doing numbers. I had a song of my city that hit. It's called Unleash. It was like a song kind of like shot in the city. You know how people got their song

where they shot their city over hood or whatever. So I did that in that part. Then I had dropped another song called Bag Talk. And Kodat DJ, he had talked on it. DJ Showtime. And that went up in Florida, like just boom. They just boosted in Florida. So really the song that boosted me in Florida song called Bag Talk,

I dropped it in 2019. Yeah. Okay. And then do you what was life like for you during COVID? Because I feel like that changed a lot of people's lives, especially as a rapper. You used all of a sudden have way more time to be working on your shit. Yeah, COVID was a good and bad thing.

Yeah. Yeah. What was the bad part? You inside and wearing a mask and all that extra stuff. But I ain't gonna lie, COVID. Yeah, COVID was good and bad. It is crazy because there's so many people I talk to when it's like COVID just gave them time to figure out what they were trying to.

with their life. We used to get a motel. COVID time, we used to get a motel, like two motels side by side for like a month and just rap in that. We had a studio in there. We had one room for something that was going on, the other room studio. What were you doing in the other room? I don't want to talk about it.

There's motion over there. It's walking hose in the other room. Are we talking? It's motion in the other room. Okay. And then we got me and my engineer, we're in one room. And we just recording. back to back to back to back to back that's cheaper to get two motel rooms than to get a studio yeah because

my dog not charging me yeah he believed in it so he not even charging me so we just in that bed we busts it now it's like four of us busting out a motel damn there we sometimes we barely even be sleeping in that bit we just pull up and do and go back to the care right yeah definitely and you feel like you really kind of started to figure out your style during that time period yeah that's what i did yeah i made my biggest songs i made my biggest songs like that and not in the studio it's kind of weird like my biggest songs i don't be recording in the studio i'd be like what my dog's like in a bnb or something and an engineer push up so yeah i mean i feel like that's one of the biggest things that a rapper could figure out is just how to have their recording set up so that they don't have to be spending a hundred

dollars an hour or whatever on studio they're like you got to just figure out how to get that going in your career yeah you get somebody who believe in a dream get your equipment and then you're going you're gone right sometimes studios be bored like it sometimes you go to the studio the they're just trying to make their money. And then you got somebody who believed who's going to tell you, you could say this better, you could do this better. Okay, that beat not right. I'm like how you rap that is not right.

You feel me? So yeah, yeah. So it was good to have it like that. So like your first song started connecting in 2019, but when did it start to feel like you were really having a fan base or where you had enough fans that you could perform and do all this type of shit? 2022. I had dropped a song called Jret Stalker.

I had told my dogs. I'm like, bro, I've been rapping for all these years. I told my dogs that this. song don't pop, I'm done rapping. Really? Yeah, I had recorded on some random, random in my dog kitchen. I'm in his kitchen. We put the studio in his kitchen.

I just pulled up, random. I'm trying to record something. Looking for beats. Loaded that beat up and I just came on there. And I told my dogs, me and my dogs came together. I was like, bro, this song right here don't pop. I'm done rapping. I'm wasting my money with this shit.

And the song pop. Really? Yeah, the song popped. Instantly, as soon as I dropped it, the song popped. Label started hitting me up. Shit. I had. label was trying to hit me out the blue floor the rapper started following me so that

emotion started comfort of the followers started going up and all that yeah definitely what were those conversations with labels like are you tempted to sign early on I I ain't know what they was saying I ain't know I wasn't I wasn't really tempted to sign I was just more excited that they're seeing me right because like that's the biggest thing for a rapper to get seen so I was getting cars like I just be laying down this label hit me this label hit me this label hit me this label hit me And at that time, I just broke up with a bitch. So I'm down about that shit. Really?

So I'm down. I'm in my room. Like, I go to the studio. You were trying to figure out how you're going to bounce back. It's like, all, here we go. I got to pop it for real. You know what I'm saying? So it's just like, I'm in the room sad as hell.

And I label called me. Like, I wasn't eating nothing. Like, that shit had me fucked up. But then on the other side, the motion just kicked. Like, it was crazy. Like, I sit in my room, not eat for days. Get up, go to the studio. Oh, this person called me.

This person hit. This person hit. This person hit. So it was like it was a good It was a good moment for real It's tough to be creative when you're depressed Very tough Very tough but when I came

When I got in the studio it's just like I make pot shit music So I got a studio I'm that nigga like Right I'm gonna fuck But do you have a ritual For how you get yourself

Into the right state of mind To make that kind of music Nah It's in me I just go in there and pop shit So even if you're having a bad time In your life I can get me mad as fuck

As soon as I get behind a microphone That beat come on It's like a different nigga Wake up Really? Yeah. I just want to slaughter the beat that's in front of me. I don't give a fuck by nothing else. When I leave the studio, I worry about that. But when I'm in the studio, I ain't trying to waste my time. So you're just going in there sober and it just comes out of you? You don't really drink like that either?

I just, that I'm saying, it's in me. I don't need nothing to boot up or nothing like that. I just go in there and just do it. Right. Yeah. See, that's what's weird with rappers is they start to slowly getting into their head that they need to be in the exact perfect state of mind. I mean, I have superstitions, like. I needed gummy worms and a red bull every studio session. If I didn't have that, it kind of fucked my head up. Yeah. But that was my little thing, but I didn't start doing that.

Really? The caffeine was whooping that? I don't know. I just needed sour gummy worms. If it wasn't sour churliss I'm not eating. I give it back. And I needed a red bull. And then I could start my studio session.

Then I could wrap, but I got past that. I mean, I think caffeine is like the bare minimum. Like, every time I've ever done a podcast, it's like I've got to have caffeine on death. That's just, you need that. Yeah. I don't know. But, okay, so you, you never been a drinker or a smoker? You never gave him a try.

You just never been interested. I tried weed, but certain things, just not, I knew it wasn't for me. Right. Yeah, so I don't try it. It's just not my shit. It's not for me. Right. It makes you kind of paranoid and shit.

I don't like the feeling of being high. It's like I'm unaware. Yeah. I don't know. I just, it's not for me. No, yeah. Yeah. The older I get, that seems like a very reasonable decision.

And I'm not. I'm kind of envious of people who figure that out when they're young. Because I feel like I spent a lot of time smoking when I didn't really want to be smoking. It was just around and it was like, why not? I'd be saying people would just like, damn, bro, like, that's four blunts back to back to back. Yeah. People are going to crave by.

I'm saving a lot of money not being a smoker. I don't do no lien and all that stuff. Yeah. So I'm saving a lot of chicken. So I'm glad I don't do none of that. No, that's crucial for sure. I feel like that's definitely like a cheat code to make it in life. They be giving me free weed everywhere I go.

Yeah. Everywhere I go, I just pass it. Yeah. Definitely. Okay, so what is your relationship with DJ drama? Because when I was really digging in your catalog, I realized he's on a ton of the songs. Like, when did you connect with him?

I connected with, bro. Where was that? I was in L.A. I was in L.A. This was like last year in L.A. I could somebody had connected us. And then he was just listening to my music. He was rocking with him.

He just talked on one of my songs. And he's like, oh, let's do a tape. Right. Yeah. So we ended up doing a tape. I just was with brother last night. Oh, really? The bowling alley.

Nice. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, what does he kind of bring to the table in terms of your music? Like, if you had, like, the long conversations with him about it, because he's seen so many rappers achieved their dreams over the years. Yeah, he'll give me some point. He didn't give me some point and stuff like that. Bro, cool person, though.

He didn't give me some point and stuff like that. That was a bit alleyute, though, giving me a, um, against the girls, though. Mm-hmm. For sure. Yeah, he's not. So that wasn't something. That just kind of all came together. Yeah, I was in L.A.

I was in L.A. with something random. Like somebody connected us. It was random. Yeah. Damn, that's dope. Yeah, it is kind of like strange to hear somebody like doing the DJ thing on records at this point just because you don't hear it that much. But then I feel like Cardi kind of mega normalized it with his recent album and stuff.

Yeah. Who he had on there. Swamp is. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's hard, though. Like, at first, and the DJ drama, DJ drama did it. I was like, is the people going to rock with it?

Like, because it's something from back in the days you bringing it back. But people was rocking with it heavy. Like, people was rocking with it heavy. And I started rocking with heavy too. Like, I feel like DJ drama added a lot to the songs and stuff like that.

Just talking on there. Yeah. I said, it's like a throwback for me just because I grew up listening to so many mixtapes that had that. And like, I feel like Cardi doing it, he's such like an artist and has like the image of being so

creative and shit that like him doing it, I felt like made it seem a lot cooler to the average person. A lot of people probably for them start doing it now. Yeah. Yeah. You know how people, a lot of people from they start doing it. Yeah. This is cool seeing him do it with a DJ that has been in the game for like 20 years.

They used to be listening to Gucci Main Tastes of Swamp Izzo all over him back in the day and seeing drama still adding stuff. But I don't know if there's going to be like a future generation of DJs who are like doing that kind of stuff. I don't think, no, I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think newer generation going to do it. Definitely. Yeah. So what would you say was the first like big feature?

that you got that actually kind of moved the needle for you early on? I had got the biggest feature that I had draw. I did that shit with a little Tyler. But then, like, my biggest song was Scrilla. Yeah, that's how I found out about you. I just saw, I didn't know who C-Stend it was. I clicked on it. I was like, oh, that's a fucking hit right there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This song was Scriller. At that time when we did, though, Skrilla wasn't big like that. Right, yeah. I had just found Brow on TikTok. Yeah. And he had like 70K, 80K followers. And I see him to song.

and then we just did it and shot it and it just went up the song went up for right yeah was that weird experience leaving florida and going to philly yeah at first i mean when i'm in philly i ain't gonna lie i was bored in the good area like when i went to kinsington that's when i was like okay this what i want to be at because there's so much going on like yeah it was so much going on left and right it wasn't really weird weird for real because it's just different like i don't seen the same thing in my city of like buddies and stuff like that junkies and stuff like that but it's just extreme over there. Y'all call them buddies.

Yeah, we call them buddies. I said we call them buddies. Like, that's what we call them. That's like the nicest thing you could possibly call them. Yeah, so you see like somebody that's a buddy right there. Yeah, that's a nice way of putting it. Yeah. So we don't call them crackheads and junkies and stuff.

Like, we just call them buddies. I mean, because that is the shocking thing about Skrilla is that it's like, I'm used to seeing rappers who are comfortable on their block, but their block is usually like not crawling with fucking zombies or buddies, It's everywhere. And then, but like he's so comfortable in that environment. He don't mind it at all. He's hugging him.

Yeah. He's doing everything with him. Like, they treat that man like a god out there. Like, yeah. It's like, I don't know. It's like something in a movie. I don't know. You got to, I'll be telling people you got to go there to see it.

Like the videos don't do justice. When you go there, it's like, I don't know, like a movie or like the evil villain just walked in and all his people. It's crazy out there. Like, it's crazy. I mean, we have like some of the worst homelessness in the country. Yeah. And we got all these rappers out here.

But I don't think I've ever seen a rap, bro, like, go to Skid Row and be rapping around all the J's unless it's specifically like, okay, we're doing some charity shit. We giving out food or whatever. But he'd be there. Like I have FaceTime, bro, and no cameras around. He just there. He'll face it. Look, look, look at it. Look at it.

Look at it. Look at it. He's just there. You feel me? bro. Yeah, was that, like, you recorded your verse and then you sent it to him and he did his verse because I feel like he, he wrapped in such like an unorthodox style on that and it's part of why it stood out to me so much.

At first, I said I bit the Kwani, O270, but me, I know I need that song to get out. So he'll take him a little minute. Then I sent it to the scler. He did that be like the next day. You know their ops, right? No. I don't know. I don't know nothing about that.

Yeah, yeah. He did that bit the next day. He did that. Well, it was funny, though. He did that bit the next day, and then we flew out there. At first, though, I ain't liked the song. When I had just me, even when I was recording it, my dog's behind me. Like, this shit trash.

What the fuck is you doing? I was only, like, five, six bars in. I told my dog, I got a little rule in the studio. If I start a song, I got to finish it. That's why the song I don't got no hook because I was just rapping all the way through it. Right. And then the Philly Wave, like, or the beat started, you know what I'm saying? Like that sounds.

So I said somebody named. and Kim put me on the phone Scrilla and then I sent the brand we did it. Yeah. I actually would love to be in the studio with Scler to see what it's like when he's rapping the way he does because it's so all over the place but then it sounds sick.

He'd be walking in and out to move, all that stuff. He'd be like all that shit. He'd be turned as fuck. I ain't a lot. Bro, he'd be turned. Definitely. Yeah. Wait, so, okay, I saw something in an older interview where you're saying that you kind of used to watch battle raps and that's part

of how you learned how to rap. Yeah, I used to watch that's how I learned how to put bars together. Really? Who even exposed you to that? That's random. Okay. Just on YouTube, just typing in batterer. I remember the first battle I ever seen. It was Hitman Hollivers conceited.

That's the first rap battle I ever watched. After that, I just kept watching battles, watching battles, watch a battle. And I seen how they was putting their bars together. So I used to sit in my room, like, trying to force to put some bars together and stuff like that. So that's how I really learned how to get that together for it. Definitely. But you never thought about being an actual battle rapper? No, I don't know how they memorized all that.

Yeah, right? Yeah, it's too much to be memorizing. Like, me, I would have been in a corner on my phone trying to get the next round. It's too much. It's also just so crazy to imagine getting a sign basically that you have to battle somebody and then you got to spend like the next couple weeks researching them and just writing all, like whatever you can think of to make fun of them, to make them feel bad. Yeah, that's too much.

I don't know. You got the crowd. And the crime me, if I say a bar. and the crowd they fuck what I'm like bro what the fuck right I'd be seeing the crowd the niggas say a bar and they think they snout they'll look at the crowd and the car just be like and it's crazy too because like I as as a regular rapper you kind of want to avoid bad looks like you

don't want to end up in a situation where somebody's going to scream something at you on the street or make you look bad or punk you out or some shit like that all that is like very bad for your career as a rapper but as a battle rapper you're like willingly putting yourself in a situation where you know that the other person is going to bring up all the most embarrassing fucked up shit they could possibly say if you got a weird haircut if your if your head is shape funny whatever it is like if you if you're girl cheated on you whatever if all that like they're going to hone in on everything it's just like inviting making you look bad and and these

battle rappers dudes though they have to have such a crazy strong sense of personality to be able to survive all that I don't know I respect battle rappers I don't know how they do it I respect them do yeah yeah it's kind of weird like when I actually went to a battle for the the first time and kind of realize that almost none of those dudes actually have problems with each other and it's just for the love of the game i'll be seeing they about to fight and everything i'll be wondering if that's real or not yeah sometimes it does definitely i think it's definitely real beefs and shit because you'll watch a battle they about the fight and that end of the battle they dab each other oh good year bro good shit bro i just i get probably the energy at a moment that's when it's really

good though is when you actually could tell that they hate same thing with like ufc fight like yeah boxing match you're gonna get way more into it if you could tell that they really dislike each other yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah definitely um okay but you know actually the crazy shit the one battle i went to though was like basically in compton man there was so many fucking crips in there and so many of them like were wearing outfits with like the names of their enemy hoods and shit on it with like shit crossed out i definitely felt like i was in a tender box like oh this could go left you're feeling out of place or everybody know you do yeah i mean it's cool yeah you good but like they have a very respectful

subculture though so even though you have all these game members and stuff it felt like people who hate each other could see each other in that environment and I think that they're going to respect the battle and not really do anything yeah that game shit crazy I was at lids yesterday I told a dude what hot should I buy I was I don't want to you walk around with the random hat you know what I see yeah yeah yeah so that's yeah I mean part of it is like if you're from out of town nobody's gonna really trip that hard but there's certain hats that have such a weight behind them. Like, you know, a Yankees hat just does not look like a Yankees hat out here.

That's like, oh. That's what somebody just told me. Yeah. Oh, I just realized you. That's what somebody just told me. The red might balance it out. The dude in the mall told me I'm straight. He's like, can't wear this hat.

I was like, what about this red Yankees hat? He's like, you're good, bro. Yeah. And I just bought the hat. And then when I walked in the whip, my dog was like, bro, you just bought one of the hats. Like, you know what I'm saying? But I was like, I'm quick moving around. doing this interview, it's great.

They don't know I'm not from here. But I also just feel like dudes from L.A. have, like, the crazy radar where if you're not from here, they can just tell you're not from here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they can tell. They can probably get to tell. But that's all I'm going to stop the most burnt out crazy motherfucker from tripping about some shit, you know, but, I mean, you're probably all right, honestly.

BET Weekend, they know. Okay, there's a lot of out of towners out here. Yeah. For sure. Okay. So what was the first thing, like, or when did you, really start to feel like you were getting a significant amount of money off of rapping and everything. Like, when did that start to change?

And my distro kid started this pot look. I was getting like five, six, seven K a month from getting like $100. Then you got shows behind that. And then you got features behind that. He got promo. So it was really like 2023 for real. That's when that money started coming in and rap. Like just rap money for real.

Yeah. And how did that change your life? Like, what was the first big thing you bawled out on? I just buy, be buying clothes and stuff like that. I'll be buying clothes. I ain't buying anything. Most crazy thing I bought so far on my teeth. I spent like 12 on my teeth.

I got veneers. Oh, okay. Yeah. I just be buying clothes. Your shit was kind of fucked up before? My shit was fucked up. I don't know how hoes was fucking with me when I got my teeth done. I was like, damn, I really must have been that nigga for real.

Because there's no way. I'm looking at old pictures of old videos of my teeth. My shit was fucked up. Right. You didn't think about going straight to the golds or putting diamonds in there? The thing is I had the week, two weeks before I got my veneers, I was on FaceTime with Johnny Dane because I was going to put diamonds in my mouth. But all the holes tell me nah, so you know, I'm a lady's man.

So all the holes telling me nah, I said, let me go get the white, the pearly white veneers for a. Right. Yeah. Do you think you might ever change your mind and get a girl? The thing is, I was just last week telling my dog, like, I want to pull these shit out and go diamond. But I don't want to do pull-outs because I'm going to lose them. I know me.

I'm going to lose them. So I'll just tell my dog, I want to pull my shit so I can go diamond and go back to the veneers or something. Because as a Florida boy, you got to go through like a perm wave. Yeah. I ain't going to do goals, but I'll do diamonds, though. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, it definitely makes you look more like a rapper for sure in the average person's mind. But the shit that you just put onto your teeth, like I bought one of those. Like when I first got like a big check, that was the one thing that I did was I bought a grill. And I just absolutely hated the way it felt on my teeth so much. I wore it for like two days and I was just over it.

Yeah, I had girls coming up, but it was a pullouts, though. Yeah. Yeah, I ain't go perma. I had pullouts. I had goals, but I ain't like how I felt on my teeth. That's why I stopped wearing them. It just felt so tight on my teeth. Right.

So I stopped wearing them. I'm so curious just what it would feel like to have like permanent goals or whatever, like, in your teeth. Because, like, your teeth are kind of soft and, like, it feels like you can, like, feel where you're eating in a way. Like, I just can't imagine what it would feel like to have something else in there. I don't got no teeth. them up in here. It's like,

they shaved it down. I got shark teeth. But they do the same thing with the perms. Yeah, yeah. I feel like it's probably the same feeling

with all I got and what they got for real. It's just, they're just metal, though. Right. Yeah. Definitely.

So you, you had like an incident with your vision that got fucked up? Yeah, when I was a little kid, I was at, um,

I was at Wyoming C's summer camp and they had the firefighters came, and they told every kid bring goggles. I ain't bring no goggles. So they told Eric kid brain goggles. So the fireflies are spraying the kids, and I'm on the side. I ain't had no goggles.

I said, bump, dad. I'm going in there. So all the kids having fun, I'm sitting on the side. Like, it's like 50, 60 kids, you know, you just feel left out. So I went in there. They sprayed me with the water holes, whatever, the water holes. And then my mama had picked me up, and I just couldn't open my eyes. Damn.

So I don't know if it was the chemicals or whatever, but like, for a good, weakens some change. I could not open my eyes. like it's just like shut so I had to get it open Were you scared that you weren't gonna be able to see anymore? Yeah, yeah. I'm like, I'm like, I don't know how old I was.

I was like eight, seven, eight years old and I just couldn't. I remember my mom carrying me back so she put me in the world, carry me to why I say like, what happens to my son? What happened? They like, they don't know.

Then I went to the doctors and then they had put something on my eye. They had it like tear it like. I don't know. They had this son to put it open and they suction my eyes. And they told me like, okay, you need to go get glasses. Really?

So that fucked up your eyes? I'm blind. Without my glasses, I'm blind. I can't see nothing close or far. I don't know why my mom ain't sue them, though. Because we would have been having fuck cheese. That's what I was thinking is like this doesn't sound like something where a little kid should be the deciding factor. It wasn't me.

I don't know. They should have sued them, though, because why they let me in there? Yeah. You feel I ain't had no goggles. Yeah. Could make some good money out of that. Like, why the fuck is that? this little kid having to be the one being responsible, making this choice.

Like, that just seems wrong. Yeah, but I'd be thinking about that was a crazy idea. Like, I had to listen to SpongeBob. Wait, why? What was SpongeBob? Because I could open my eyes. So I used to sit in front of TV and listen. Oh, just listen to the TV show.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I used to sit in front of TV, listen. I used to move around the house with my hands. Just move around the house. I used to be laying in bed. Like, my eyes just not open and just laying in bed. But once you got glasses, it was smooth? Yeah, once I got glasses, it was smooth.

Okay. Yeah, I got glasses. You never tried contacts or anything? No, I mean, I tried, but lens crafters went, let me leave with the contacts because I ain't know how to take them out. Oh, really? I had a problem touching my eyes. It's the worst.

Yeah, I had contacts for years, and it's just such an unbelievably unpleasant feeling of having to touch your eyes. So I was in there for a hour to do, the doctor and whatever, the dude, I don't follow, bro. The dude, he, like, he's taking it out for me, but he got aggravated with me, so he just, he's just pressing on my eye, like, doing all that edge of shit. I was like, y'all don't got no instrument or nothing. I can just poke in my eye and like, no, you got to figure it out. So I was in there for like an hour and say, you can't leave with the contacts.

Because most people don't ever get used to, like, touching their own eyeball, and you kind of have to get used to that feeling. Yeah, I see some people do it easy, though. Yeah. But me, I can't be touching my eyes. I'm my eyes sensitive. My problem was always, like, I would fall asleep with them in, or I would be on a long road trip and I wouldn't be able to stop and watch my hands to take

them in and out or some shit. All that's too extra. That's extra. I got a laser eye surgery like 15 years ago and this has been smooth sailing ever since. I highly recommend it. I'm scared to do that. Yeah, not everybody's like a good candidate for it too. And it is kind of scary.

They like strap your fucking head back. That's all I'm going to ask you and what they put a laser on your eye. I got laser. This is the way they used to do it. Somebody was telling me that they do it different now, but they just take a laser and goes like this. And you know what like burning hair smells like? Yeah.

It's like you smell that because that's just like your hair is just skin. And you up. They don't knock you out. They, I think gave me something like a Zan type thing or whatever. And they fucking, they put all these droplets in your eye to like numb it. And then they just have you back like this. And then they just shave like a little tiny piece off it. So you didn't feel it, though.

I mean, I felt it, but it just feels like a weird little buzz. And then you smell the burning skin. And it's just like, what the fuck? You just burn my eye. They got to knock me out to do something like that. Yeah, honestly, it might be a good idea because that shit was, it was unpleasant. But then within two days, it was like, oh, my eyesight is completely fixed. And I don't have 20-20?

Damn near. I don't know. It feels like it's gotten a little worse as the years went by, but still pretty good. You got to go back. I don't think that they, you really have to go back, I think, because that was like 15, 16 years ago. And I haven't even really thought about it since. Yeah, I ain't doing that. Yeah, yeah.

But you know what? Like having glasses, I feel like it's not that bad. It's just when I was a kid, I was riding my bike all the time trying to do tricks on my bike. So I'd always be falling. My glass would be flying off my head. And then I'll go to school and I were getting fights like so regularly. and be having my glasses smashed off my fucking face as soon as the fight cracks off. And that just,

but when I think about it now, it's like I don't have to worry about those things. So if I had glasses, I probably wouldn't mind. I'd be going through glasses, breaking them. Yeah. Falling asleep.

All that stuff. I just had a crazy. I'm going to tell you how I just broke my last pair of glasses. I don't know. I got some type of disorder. Someone I laugh. I pass out. Really?

Yeah. If I laugh too hard, the doctor told me my veins and my neck be closing. I lose oxygen to my brain. But we're talking about, like really laughing hard. I'm in the restaurant. I'm in the restaurant chilling with my dogs and shit.

We're watching the game. And it's a jip behind my dog. A kid behind my dog keep hitting him. Like hitting him. My dog turned around like, what's up? Like he's pressing a jit. You feel me?

So I just started rolling. And I woke up on the floor. And I woke up on the floor. I got up in a minute. Everybody in the restaurant just looking at me. And I got, I turned around and my dog was like, I just passed out.

And like, yeah, cut. like you went out cold and I woke up my glasses broke oh shit but that was like the third time I happened to me though really yeah oh so it's like doesn't happen that much if it's only like the top three laughs of your lifetime yeah yeah when I be laughing too hard I got it like I don't know it's it's a third time it happened to me but it's like I be getting lightheaded when I laugh too hard I get lightheaded so I'll be having it chill out a little bit because I kind of have that problem it comes and goes but like if I am sitting down and my breath gets really deep and I'm just watching TV or whatever, and especially if I'm smoking or whatever,

then I'll go to stand up and I'll just feel it. Like, my, I just get super lightheaded. Yeah. And it's, it's weird because like it hasn't happened to me in probably like a year because I feel like I've been eating really healthy and shit. You were sitting down too long, got up too fast. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

And I've had it two different times in my life where I stood up too fast and I passed out. And one of them, I just fell backwards. And luckily I was in my friend's house and he had like wood floors. Yeah. So my head just kind of bounced off the ground and it didn't fuck me up. But the other time, I fucking fell forward and I had this big ass cut in my head for a little while. It just went away. I had a big ass thing right here.

Yeah, like I stood up. I just jumped out of bed and the door frame, my head just went like that. And it just put a huge fucking hole in that. See, yeah, that's crazy. So, yeah, I got to deal with that. Now, they gave me an exercise talking about, oh, when you laugh, you got to cross your hands and cross your legs. I'm like, I ain't doing that shit. I told the daughter, if I keep hanging around my dogs, I'm going to die because that's all we do is laugh.

Right. So she was like, you got to do the exercise. I'm not doing that. The biggest fix for it in terms of that shit that happened to me is like if I'm sitting down super chill, I just kind of got used to it of like instead of standing up super fast, I would like sit up like this, catch my breath and just sort of like take my time standing up. And make taking standing up like 10 seconds instead of like one second. But it would give my body like a little time to adjust so that I wouldn't get lightheaded.

Yeah, I know you're talking about you was getting up fast as hell. Yeah, just you know, because like you're a kid. You're like used to jumping up. That's part of like the number one thing I noticed is you get older. is like I just find myself moving slower to like avoid having a problem of like even like okay I'm going out to my car and I got like 10 things I got to bring yeah as I get older I'm like all right I'm gonna do two trips yeah I would take two trips back of the back you tell you had all the bag when you're exactly yeah you feel like John Cena coming

in the eyes yeah I still do that with the grocery bags I'll be coming in with like fucking all of them it's like it's a pride thing you just want to do it you know um um um Okay, so you, I saw you say that you never paid for features. You never had to do that. It's just you built it entirely off relationships. Yeah, relationship. I don't pay for no features. I just be in the right room, right, please.

People hear my music and they just fuck with me. Feel me, and they just give me a feature like that. So I ain't never really had no issues again, features. Yeah, I know. I got a lot of crazy unreleased, a lot of crazy unreleased features for sure. Really? Like who? Anybody you can mention?

Shit. I got, I say, I got sauce walker. No, cow. I got a lot of shit. And that's just because you ran into him, you met him? Or was that something maybe you happened over Instagram? I introduced. Got introduced 200, fuck with him.

You know what I'm saying? And just end up in the studio one night. Me, I ain't know when I meet a rapper, I don't be on a rapper timing with them. You know how some people, they, as soon as they walk up to you, like, let me get a feature, man, let me do this, let me do that. I don't be on that. I just be chilling. Yeah.

When a feature going to come when you just be a real nigg. When you come out to a rapper on that rapper time, man he gonna charge your ass that's what i do you come up to me let's get a song again talk my manager you know what i'm saying you just be chilling see your face a whole bunch of times and stuff like that you're gonna end up probably just getting a very if you're a cool person real nigga i'm yeah no that definitely makes sense yeah because if a rapper like like a similar situation is like the dudes i know have clothing companies i realized over time that like if you're just always every time you see him be like bro let me get some clothes whatever that that just like

stands out to them and like you look thirsty and they basically look at you like the way they look at like a customer whereas if you just treat them on some cool shit i feel like they'll just end up sending you shit or whatever end up sending you shit that's it that's exactly how i really don't try to be forcing my hand with stuff like that it's just if you want to give it to me you're going to give it to me but i feel like if you come up to somebody on that type of time they're going end up trying to make some money off you real quick definitely yeah definitely um so is it kind of crazy like around your local area at the point because you just got a lot of fans and I feel like in your area they probably look at you as

kind of like the one who's holding the torch for the whole area. That should be lit though. That should be lit. I ain't going to lie. Like people will be coming up to me. They be thinking out like anything I blow like I'm drinking something sometimes. Like for real like it'd be crazy though. It'd be lit though. I just had a billboard in a city too which that made it big like yeah I put a billboard up for a whole two three months straight. Oh wow. I shot a video over there a whiz and we just shut down the whole block. That's when I really realized, okay, like, this shit big in my city. Like, we shut down the whole block. Like, police came. Didn't do nothing. Really? Yeah, just let us rock out. And it was like people parked across the street over. It was like three, four hundred,

three hundred people out there. Right. We just dropped a fly in the morning. And they just popped out. Yeah, I mean, the cops have to kind of be appreciative of the energy that you're bringing around. Yeah. I feel like. I mean, I don't got nothing negative going on. Yeah. You feel me? So they can't really bullshit or try like do all that shit with me. You feel me? They just let me rock up for real. I don't be having no issues with police for my city. Definitely. Because that's something I was saying about

Boss Man Dela for a while, but it's really kind of true for a lot of the up and coming generation of Florida is that like considering that we all live through the Jacksonville War era and all this crazy shit like so much crazy violence throughout Florida over the last 10 years or whatever.

It's like now it feels like the next generation are dudes who are making music that they might be talking about drugs a little bit and shit like that but it's overall like a lot more positive and not really on that bloodthirsty shit that we kind of got used to from a lot of artists i mean i don't i don't live that so what the fucking rapping by the for i'm rapping what i live you know what i'm saying all that killing killing killing killing music i never been my stilo i barely even listened to that so that's just never been my stilo for yeah like there's part of it where it's kind of interesting to listen to just all these

beefs and wars and shit like that but it's just important but at the same time it's just not really like that energy gets tough after like like artists who put out full albums of 15 songs and just murder it's like right you got to be able to switch it up at a certain point like it's just too much negativity and you listen to that all day that's what you're going to become you just going to be one of waxing like it's certain rappers though like from florida though when you listen to them like you be thinking about people you got pressure with like yeah i remember was and still it's a certain rapper what i said turn this shit all right I'm ready to go slide on something.

It's really what you listen to. So if you listening to pot shit, get money music all day, what you're going to want to do? You want to get money so you can pop it for, if you listen to Killie Killer Music all day, I want to go slide or something. You listen to sad music all day. Yeah, I'm going to be sad. Right. Yeah.

I mean, I feel like a lot of younger rappers really are kind of like, they are so convinced from listening to what's popular that they need ops, that they just start inventing ops out of thin air and they're coming up for random people. that you don't even got to do all that you just got to be snapping you just got to be different you don't mean got to go get no arts like you don't got to do all that you just got to do something different like I feel like if people who be doing that probably just can't rap for real they got to something to them or something like that like from your perspective what makes like a great verse like is it is it the relatability and the fact that you're kind of saying shit that people

just vibe with like you know after listening to so much your music I feel like it's it's it kind is in that direction of just like shit that a large percentage of people can relate to. Yeah, it's just everybody want to get money. Everybody want to fuck bad bitches. Everybody want to get, who don't want to do that stuff. Even the killers want to do that.

Right. The girls want to, they fuck with that shit too. So it's just like, I feel like my music very relatable for that motion music, motivational motion music for, yeah. Definitely. So what's your process in the studio? You write your stuff out or you just punch in?

I just punch in. Okay. I just go in there. I probably has like one beat I heard on YouTube already that I come in there. And I just jump on there after that. I just look for beats, look for bees, and just go on the booth and punch in. Yeah. And do you have a time period where you were writing shit in advance?

Or is there ever like a you're just living your life and you'll just end up writing a bar down that just stands out to you? Okay, yeah. I'll do that. Like, okay, if I think of a crazy bar, just sitting somewhere, I'll put it in my notes and try to work a song around it. You feel me? But before when I first

started rapping, I had to write. I couldn't freestyle for nothing. I don't know. I think I was scared. Like, if I was in front of a microphone,

I could freestyle by it. It's just the making a song freestyle. It was hard for me in the beginning. So I had to write in the beginning. Definitely. Yeah. But now you just kind of

got your skill set down enough. Yeah. I could still write, though. Like, I can still write if I want to write. But I feel like the bars, when I'm thinking like, okay, when you write it,

you like, that emotion, you had is not there. Like, I don't know how to break it down. Like when I say, I know, no, no, no, I felt that in a moment. You're going to feel it when I'm rapping it when I'm freestyle it. That's why I like freestyle in for real.

Right. Yeah. Definitely. Do you, in terms of the scene in Florida, do you feel like everybody is on board with supporting each other? You think that that's like kind of the reason why everything is going so well is that people are just very appreciative and down to help each other? Yeah, nobody on no hating.

Nobody hating. everybody wants to see everybody when everybody be supporting each other everybody we'd be like outside the rap we'd be cool so we'll be having none to do the rap we just be chilling laughing vibing all that stuff gets cool and like it's just really like it's just real you know what I'm saying a lot of rappers be fake like the relationships be fake as hell true but the florida scene is kind of like it's different like between us is real like I'll rap aside like we're gonna be cool I'm saying so that's how I So, okay, hypothetically, if you see a young artist coming up and they kind of sound like you or they sound like they're influenced by you and they've got some motion like people are starting to fuck with it or whatever, is your mentality going to be like, I want to do a song with him, I want to support him or do you, in your head, is it going to be like I want to kind of block him out because I want my lane to be for myself. I don't do no blocking, Brad.

You're sliding. Like, I just told somebody the other day, he got like a thousand followers to send me open. I want to do that big because I just think his. song hard like he'll slide he from florida so i don't be doing that if i feel like i'll rock with your music i'm gonna do a song with you i'm gonna tell you send me an open something like that right yeah yeah i mean i think that there's more value to that in the long run like because i when i started doing interviews Vlad reached out to me he did the same thing to academics he did the same thing until like everybody was kind of coming up in the interview space and shit and just sort of like

showed love gave us some game put us on and then as a result we all look at Vlad with respect and Like he was somebody that kind of stuck his neck out a little bit for us early on. And it very easily could have gone the other way where we all could very easily be thinking of Vlad as some old-ass hater that don't give a fuck about us. Because there's a lot of people in the media world that we look at like that. A lot of the radio people and shit like that where we look at them as kind of trying to suppress the up-and-coming generation. You would way rather be the one who's known for helping people.

Yeah, yeah. You never know too like, you and Black, y'all probably scratch each other back on stuff. You know what I said? Totally. So I'm saying. So you could be, it could be a rapper. You probably got more motion than him. He pop off.

But he's going to focus you off the simple fact. Okay, Stano was fucking with me beforehand. You feel me? So he probably scratched your back now. You know what I'm saying? Give you an assist. So you can't really look down on people like that or try to like do this shit like that. That's what's really happened with the Florida era.

All the young thing just shot up out of nowhere. You know what I said? That's what really happened. But do you still put yourself in the young dude category or do you feel like you've been around? to the point where you're starting to feel a little bit more like the, no, I'm standing in Florida now. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm stamped for real, for real. I'm standing for a lot. It's gotta get worldwide now. Yeah. What do you feel like you got to do to take your career to the next level? Like,

what is, do you think it's just like having that one big song? Because I feel like that Skrilla song totally pushed you up to a different level. Yeah, you just got to keep going, being consistent with them songs, though. Like,

you can't just have one song. You got to keep going and keep going. And then I feel like I got to be more. there more. I'm a chill niggas, so, you know what I said? I was just sitting in the studio with Nocat and I was telling I was like, bro, I don't know what I got to do to get over that hump. It's just like a little

hump. Like, what I got to do? We're just sitting there talking and just, he was telling me he's like, we too real for this shit. You got to do the shit, the fake corny shit sometimes. He was like you just got to do some lame-ass shit. That's what people like to see sometimes. So he was like, you just got to do something

out of the box for real that. People want to just catch people off guard. That's just the world, they want to see some crazy dumb shit. They're tired of seeing the same shit over and over. Yeah, but it's tricky too because it's like if you become the kind of rapper who is saying some viral shit and just looks thirsty as fuck and it's always in the headlines. Yeah, it's like, you know, they're going to lose respect. You're going to be lit for a little minute, but you're going to lose the respect of being a

rapper from people, you feel me? And you turn into a cornball, trying to force yourself to go viral. People want to hear from you. And like, that's the weird thing about it is that it's like, well, you could very easily sit on Instagram live hours a day or be a Twitch streamer or whatever. You really want people to like tune into your music to find out about you rather than finding out about you through all these other things on social media. You know, like if you had a rapper that you wanted to diss, it just makes so much more sense to save that and say it in a song. And I realize I'm saying something that you don't really do because you don't really get into all that. But like, I would personally like listen to the song where you diss somebody rather than.

like, you know, if you just hop on your Instagram story and say it. And then by the time you maybe say something about it in a song, people don't give a fuck anymore because it's already been out there, you know? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's just, you just got a cracker. It's like a cold. You just got to crack it.

Yeah. Like, you just got to crack it. I don't know. You just got to figure out what you do to crack the code for it. Definitely. I like that song, Custo. What's your definition of a Custo? Custo, like, like, certain people would probably be a buddy.

You know what I'm saying? That's a Custo. customer yeah customer yeah yeah they're just very specific yeah you see with a bitch and she ain't bad and she a custom you're saying yeah that's exactly what it is I was high hearing you said because that's like literally that was our slang for crackheads probably like 20 years ago when I was growing up yeah we would say that and then I realized like I moved to new york nobody said that and then I heard you say and I'm like oh shit that's like little bro that's like little Florida slain for a custom definitely Florida slang who out of Florida who would you say is your

Mount Rushmore, like your top four favorite artists of all time? I gotta go cold at Raw wave Yeah, X, X, X.X. Okay. He said four? Yeah. Me. You're gonna give yourself it? Okay. Yeah, I'm Mount Rushmore.

I respect it. You got to leave room for that, yeah. I got to put myself on that. I feel like I'm one of the greatest. Hell yeah. Okay, so what are you working on now? What do you feel like you're going to need to do to take this shit to the next level? I there are more out there

more and stuff like that like i started twitch like twitch okay yeah twitch like tit-tots stuff like that and just be more like out there for real with the music i'm working on my tape right now and then trying to push that out too just like be more of a people person that's all it is how did how did you become c stunner where the name come from bird man bird man oh just bird man in general bird man so i fought with hot boys heavy so i like the word stunner and there was a rapper from florida and it was a rapper from florian name T. Stunner. Okay. So I was listening to him

heavy in high school. So I just made my Instagram C. Stunner. And that just became my Rattning. Right. So that just all mixed him together like that. Makes sense?

Yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah, that's Stunner that Birdman. Birdman, one of my favorite rapper. People don't like Birdman, but he was just talking that shit. Like, Yeah, you can't.

How can hate on Birdman? Birdman was talking shit. Like, that's the first, I feel like the first, you know, how people would be saying pop shit, me, like, he's the first person to jump on the beat for a friend and just like,

yeah. He wasn't saying no bar. He was just saying what he doing, how he'd do it. Yeah. Nah, that's a legend right there. You know what? I just found out last night is,

do you remember there was a viral clip of Birdman and it looked like he was passing out on stage? Oh, with Lil Wayne or something like that? It's like, he just looked like he was like, God and off. And BG goes over to him and is like checking on him and shit. And I just found out that actually he was just like reading the, like the teleprompter with the lyrics.

Everybody's making fun of it on Twitter. Yeah. But he wasn't fucked up. He was just reading. this thing but even BG thought that he was fucked up because he was just frozen reading this this thing yeah but I guess he's actually chill like because I was worried about that when I saw that I'm like what's going on with Berger man yeah I thought you I told Twitter I was like get off my dog bro yeah I had met bro bro bro bro try to sign me at one point oh for real yeah I had ended up

me down damn yeah so it was crazy meeting bro for real what gives you the confidence to turn down somebody like that trying to trying to sign you or did you just kind of let it linger I don't know he's just like I just got to think about what's best for you sometimes. And I was saying that that wasn't what, you know what I'm saying? I just felt like going another way with it. For real, but I respect them, but I got a lot of love. Because if it wasn't for Bird, man,

getting the Hot Boys, I would not be no rapper. Right. Because that's all I listened to is a Lil Wayne for real, like, you know what I'm saying? And rapping and learn how to rap too is a lot from Little Wayne. So I feel like if it wasn't no hot boys, it won't be no C stunner. Because I wouldn't even be fucking with the stunner shit if it wasn't for Bird,

man. So many people don't remember that like Little Wayne, convinced young ass kids all over the world that they could rap like even though he wasn't that young really by the time he was really popping it just he felt so young that it felt like that just like encouraged

so many young kids to believe that they could do it yeah he was a jill he was a little kid just snapping yeah so yeah for sure no definitely um all right see stana I appreciate you coming through I'm really fucking with the music and everything so uh it was great getting have a conversation appreciate you for sure jumper everybody uh go turn my man up on all streaming platforms

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